Speaker 1: We Roland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fucking boys, man, Yo, hell of an episode
Speaker 2: on Busting with the Boys. We had Eddie George legend,
Speaker 2: he's in the college Football Hall of Fame. He's had
Speaker 2: his jersey retired at both Ohio State and the Titans.
Speaker 1: We talked about a lot of shit, man.
Speaker 2: We talked about his going going to school back in Philly,
Speaker 2: how his mom took him to Virginia, right, yeah, down
Speaker 2: in Virginia to attend Fork Union Military Academy. My man
Speaker 2: was talking about doing marches before practice. Call him what
Speaker 2: fatigue day? Fatigue day like military stuff before they even
Speaker 2: do practice. A lot of good stories, man, going through
Speaker 2: Ohio State adversities he went through in a high school
Speaker 2: and Ohio State why he basically was non existing his
Speaker 2: sophomore year and basically you know, the comeback he had
Speaker 2: to make after having some fumble issues his freshman year,
Speaker 2: winning the Heisman Trophy closest vote history, beat Our boy edged,
Speaker 2: our boy out, Tommy Fraser, Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Shout out, Nebraska, all free shoutouts.
Speaker 2: Always going into his NFL career, being drafted by the
Speaker 2: Houston Oilers, the difference between college facilities and NFL facilities,
Speaker 2: then making the transition to the Tennessee Titans, playing in
Speaker 2: Memphis that first season and practicing at Vanderbilt Tennessee State.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it was a shit show their first
Speaker 2: when they were transitioning over into their until they got
Speaker 2: their new stadium in nineteen ninety nine, playing for Coach Fisher,
Speaker 2: the final that play at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Where they were one yard short.
Speaker 2: How he's been able to use that as inspiration and
Speaker 2: influence throughout his life since then playing with Steve McNair.
Speaker 2: That was a big segment. A lot of good stories
Speaker 2: with McNair, I mean, unreal stories.
Speaker 1: What else, boys, I.
Speaker 2: Mean a lot of shit transitioning having a bad breakup
Speaker 2: with the Titans and into the Dallas Cowboys. His respect
Speaker 2: for Jerry Jones as a businessman. What he's kind of
Speaker 2: learned transitioning into entrepreneurship, the business world, acting, acting on Broadway,
Speaker 2: performing on Broadway, Edward George Wealth Management, incredible stuff. Man,
Speaker 2: He's an insightful cat. It's I'm sitting there like, yeah,
Speaker 2: any any young cats that are young athletes that are
Speaker 2: gonna play in the that are gonna play in the league,
Speaker 2: that are playing in the league, any of that stuff,
Speaker 2: like he's somebody you need to seek out for.
Speaker 1: Advice man, financial advice.
Speaker 2: He's had some ups and downs, a lot of pivotal
Speaker 2: points and throughout his career that he shares in depth.
Speaker 2: A lot of good football talk, a lot of good
Speaker 2: football stories, a lot of good locker room talk.
Speaker 1: As always. Uh but yeah, man, Eddie George.
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Speaker 1: Right? Well, one was in college out of college, the
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Speaker 2: gonna take you back to I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 2: say nine years old for young comp nine years old
Speaker 2: and playing football, playing tackle football. The person I were
Speaker 2: from Missouri, Missouri, okassuri, So growing up like the Ozarks
Speaker 2: and all that about the hour south of Saint Louis, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm playing ball growing up, and me I'm kind
Speaker 2: of all.
Speaker 1: I was always like bigger, you know, everybody's all.
Speaker 2: Everybody in kind of the NFL is bigger and big
Speaker 2: fish in small pocket on them. And I was convinced
Speaker 2: I was gonna be a running back when I grew up.
Speaker 2: I was always like taller, I was leaner. The person
Speaker 2: I looked up to and thought I was gonna be
Speaker 2: based on my body type was Eddie George. So hey,
Speaker 2: this is a surreal moment for me. Sixth grade comes
Speaker 2: around sixth seventh grade. I got the pacifier mouthpiece, I
Speaker 2: got the two bar running back helmet. Ye I'm out
Speaker 2: there looking.
Speaker 1: Like a white Eddie George and.
Speaker 2: Two eight because hey, I had a battle between you
Speaker 2: and Marshall Fawk. But my body type and everything else
Speaker 2: told me I was gonna be I was gonna be
Speaker 2: like Eddie George. Love watching Walter Payton, but Eddie George
Speaker 2: is it, dude? So fast forward I'm about I'm getting
Speaker 2: accepted for an award. I'm gonna knee you know, attention there.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, Okay, I'm about five six one
Speaker 2: sixty as a seventh grader, five six, five seven one
Speaker 2: sixty one sixty five. I'm thinking, I put on ten
Speaker 2: pounds this past year. If I keep you know how
Speaker 2: you are as a kid, if I keep putting on
Speaker 2: ten pounds every year by the time I'm a twelfth grader,
Speaker 2: because I was the seventh grade at the time, I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: when I'm a twelfth grader in high school going into college,
Speaker 2: I'll probably be around two twenty, around what Eddie George is.
Speaker 2: I'll probably be around six two because I hopefully I'll
Speaker 2: keep growing. Everybody thinks I'm tall, Like I'm gonna keep growing,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna play in college for probably like three years.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna chuck deuces. I'm gonna go to the league
Speaker 2: and be, you know, mimic everything after Eddie George. So
Speaker 2: go back to that moment. I try and go to
Speaker 2: a this was a year after you guys.
Speaker 1: After the Super Bowl, and I go to this football
Speaker 1: camp in Saint Louis around the Saint Louis Area and
Speaker 1: I go as a running back and linebacker. Coaches everybody
Speaker 1: always wanted.
Speaker 2: Me to play linebacker on defense, and I hated playing
Speaker 2: line Hey, truth be told, I hated playing linebacker because
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'm going to be on offense.
Speaker 2: I go to this camp, bug Eye, can't wait. You're
Speaker 2: supposed to be there, Eddie George doesn't show up that day.
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 2: And so I end up doing drills like Mike Jones
Speaker 2: the linebacker because they had guys, you know how, like
Speaker 2: all the campus programs come in. I want to say,
Speaker 2: something happened. You couldn't make your flight or I don't know,
Speaker 2: but you weren't there. And I remember my dad telling me,
Speaker 2: and I was.
Speaker 1: So hurt because I was like, man, this is going
Speaker 1: to be the day I got to meet him. Wow.
Speaker 2: Now listen, I know I talk a lot. You're going
Speaker 2: to be talking the majority of the conversation. Hey, bro,
Speaker 2: do you thing we got a lot of history. Go
Speaker 2: ahead and pull up the photo so fast forward I
Speaker 2: end up getting over it. You go and speak to
Speaker 2: us when I am a senior junior going to be
Speaker 2: a senior at Nebraska. Yeah, we take a photo obviously
Speaker 2: you don't remember meeting the great clips cut the bust,
Speaker 2: adult teeth.
Speaker 1: That was just a gritty grind.
Speaker 2: Kennedy, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were actually
Speaker 2: there when Bo was there. Dave probably set it up
Speaker 2: through the strength stats and stuff.
Speaker 1: Bo Polini, Yes, right, and you came and spoke to us.
Speaker 2: But we met almost August twenty four, twenty twelve, almost
Speaker 2: eight years ago.
Speaker 1: To the day we took this photo. Ay, and now.
Speaker 2: Everything full circle like goosebumps thinking about the old running
Speaker 2: back days and now I'm sitting here with Eddie George
Speaker 2: on on busting with the boys.
Speaker 1: And that is insane. Yeah, that's right, because I was
Speaker 1: down there for I was down in Nebraska doing something
Speaker 1: for uh the Heisman, not the Heisman. It was in
Speaker 1: the summer. It was in the summer. We come down
Speaker 1: with our campus tours we're doing for Fox Sports. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense, that makes sense. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we had to be doing summer campase I remember, Yeah, Man,
Speaker 1: I can't, of course I remember you. Well, what I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you might have remembered fifty one back in the day. Man,
Speaker 1: you about six what six', Four, No i'm about six
Speaker 1: two do about the same heighten this. Picture see you
Speaker 1: were there, Though, yeah, yeah, yeah you're probably getting little.
Speaker 1: Older you might your vertebrates and a. Half you ain't
Speaker 1: six three and a half the next three and a. Half,
Speaker 1: Hey i'll take six. FOUR i think you think you're
Speaker 1: a reacher with the sixty. Three but, hey in that
Speaker 1: wild man that is that is, insane, MAN I i,
Speaker 1: uh do you remember missing going to a camp back
Speaker 1: in the, day a little kids. CAMP i. Do that
Speaker 1: was For. Budweiser there was a guy Named, DEMETRIUS i
Speaker 1: can't remember his last. Name he brought me in and
Speaker 1: my flight was was delayed coming. In so there was a.
Speaker 1: Camp there was night, festivities there was a golf, tournament
Speaker 1: there was all of that that whole weekend coming in
Speaker 1: because my flight was delayed AND i got in later
Speaker 1: on after the. Camp So i'm sorry TO i KNOW i.
Speaker 2: WAS i was a young boy man crushed like, MAN
Speaker 2: i was gonna Meet Eddie. George yeah you know me, Now,
Speaker 2: YEAH i know it's, crazy, Dude BUT i want to
Speaker 2: start all the way back in the. Beginning you grew
Speaker 2: up In. Philly how was that talk to us about
Speaker 2: growing up In philly and when and when you exactly
Speaker 2: knew that you were going to be a phenomenal football.
Speaker 1: Player Oh, Man, WELL i grew up all Over. Philadelphia
Speaker 1: grew up mainly In, abington just outside Of philadelphia With
Speaker 1: North hills and my mother she worked For Ford Motor
Speaker 1: company and also as a flight, attendant so we moved
Speaker 1: around a lot between Like shelton Hand Southwest, Philadelphia Mount.
Speaker 1: Airy SO i just claim This philadelphia BECAUSE i have
Speaker 1: friends and family all over the. City you. Know back,
Speaker 1: THEN i just it was it was Just. Philly it
Speaker 1: was just. Home you. Know it was home Of Joe,
Speaker 1: frazier you, Know Rocky, Balboa, eagles The Broad Street, bullies The,
Speaker 1: flyers The. Sixers so it was it was that way of.
Speaker 1: LIFE i just fell in love with the game of.
Speaker 1: Football my father played the, game not at the high,
Speaker 1: level just high, school but he was. HERE i would
Speaker 1: always over here him telling stories of of how he
Speaker 1: loved playing the game of, football and how he loved
Speaker 1: running backs And Jim brown was his favorite running back
Speaker 1: and so. Forth AND i just grew up loving the.
Speaker 1: Game WHEN i came out the, womb in, FACT i
Speaker 1: used to take my father's little trophy had a trophy
Speaker 1: that like The, heisman AND i would JUST i would
Speaker 1: break it down and then broke it, actually AND i
Speaker 1: would play with LIKE i was playing on the football
Speaker 1: field with little, figurines AND I i just loved the
Speaker 1: pageantry around the game of. Football. Period SO i grew
Speaker 1: up A Penn state football. Fan wanted to play For Penn,
Speaker 1: state wanted to play running back For Penn. STATE i
Speaker 1: wanted to be close to, home want all my family
Speaker 1: and friends to see me play. There and of course
Speaker 1: that didn't. Happen BUT i didn't know THAT i. WANTED
Speaker 1: i didn't know exactly WHEN i wanted to play. FOOTBALL
Speaker 1: i just knew THAT i would make it. SOMEDAY i
Speaker 1: didn't know how or when or. What BUT i always
Speaker 1: felt it in my spirit THAT i was going to
Speaker 1: not just play the game or play at a high.
Speaker 1: Level yeah, yeah, yeah what happened With Penn. State, WELL
Speaker 1: i went to a military. Academy because my grades are.
Speaker 1: POOR i messed around in high school so much until
Speaker 1: the tenth. Grade my mom had, enough so she packed
Speaker 1: up our, bags packed up my, bags and drove me
Speaker 1: nine hours DOWN i ninety five south To virginia and
Speaker 1: dropped me off at The Military academy school age of,
Speaker 1: fifteen and that's when my journey really began as really
Speaker 1: finding out WHO i. Was prior to, THAT i, was you,
Speaker 1: know six foot, pus sixteen hundred and sixty eight, pounds
Speaker 1: slow as, dirt not very, big lack work, ethic but
Speaker 1: in my MIND i could still see myself going To
Speaker 1: Penn state and. PLAYING i thought it was going to
Speaker 1: turn it. Around BUT i lacked discipline in the classroom
Speaker 1: as a, person and WHEN i went To Fourth, union
Speaker 1: it was an eye opening experience AS i thought my
Speaker 1: career was, over only to find out that every school
Speaker 1: In america comes To Fourth union to find, talent like From,
Speaker 1: virginia you n C, Usc South, Carolina, Florida, Virginia Virginia,
Speaker 1: tech all THE acc, schools all secondary School James, madison
Speaker 1: where every single school you can think of came through.
Speaker 1: There their, coaches head coaches comes through those. Doors SO
Speaker 1: i was in the right place at the right. Time
Speaker 1: but my work, ethic my, attitude everything about me was way.
Speaker 1: Off and it had to start with. Me ONCE i
Speaker 1: started changing the WAY i, thought the WAY i viewed,
Speaker 1: success that it was cool to get age and still
Speaker 1: be on the football. Team it changed my whole, life
Speaker 1: my prole perspective of. Life and then was shortly thereafter
Speaker 1: THAT i was able to guard into the attention of high.
Speaker 1: School of the high, school but college is around the.
Speaker 1: Country Ohio state was one of. Them, damn so hey
Speaker 1: shut up mom, there, yeah, yeah SHE i mean it's.
Speaker 1: TOUGH i, MEAN i have a fifteen year old now
Speaker 1: and he gets on my nerves so And i'm, Thinking,
Speaker 1: god it would be really hard for me to send
Speaker 1: my son away to military. School and my mother did
Speaker 1: it without any, money any. Resources. Hardly she knew that
Speaker 1: she my life was in danger BECAUSE i was becoming
Speaker 1: a monster and becoming. THAT i wasn't quite there. Yet
Speaker 1: BUT i had the potential to be great at. Something
Speaker 1: and you, KNOW i could have been great as a
Speaker 1: drug dealer or a hustler or a BUMB i can
Speaker 1: do that really. Well Is ley on my constant play
Speaker 1: video games and fruity pebbles all, day you. Know so
Speaker 1: the potential was there to do something, great but she
Speaker 1: had to change my, environment and by her doing, THAT
Speaker 1: i had. TO i was able to see the potential
Speaker 1: of WHAT i could become and be in. Life, man that's.
Speaker 2: Crazy because like you were, saying alluding to his probably
Speaker 2: to this decision you probably ever made at that, point
Speaker 2: but knowing it's the right, one LIKE i got to
Speaker 2: do this or he's going to go down.
Speaker 1: The WRONG i wouldn't be talking to you right now
Speaker 1: without any of, this you, know without having that, EXPERIENCE
Speaker 1: i would not be on this bus right. NOW i
Speaker 1: would not be talking about my, career my, life my,
Speaker 1: family my, values my principles without that.
Speaker 2: Experience is there an a, Moment is there a moment
Speaker 2: you can think on that actually shifted your, perspective like
Speaker 2: when you're because figuring that out kind of in high.
Speaker 2: SCHOOL i, mean hats off to you for that, too
Speaker 2: because a lot of kids they. Don't they might might be,
Speaker 2: college it might be way down the line before they figure.
Speaker 2: Out but it was, there like a like an ass
Speaker 2: kicking moment where you're, like, YO i got to turn
Speaker 2: my shirt.
Speaker 1: Around yeah it. Was there was a running back WHEN
Speaker 1: i got down. There his name Was Lee. Green in,
Speaker 1: fact he passed away this, year and he uh was
Speaker 1: like everything All american running back getting recruited by everybody
Speaker 1: in the. Country four point OH. Gpa just the model
Speaker 1: of like WHAT i wanted to be six three two
Speaker 1: and twenty five, pounds ran a four five forty four four,
Speaker 1: forty just a beast of a running back. Person he
Speaker 1: was a patune. SERGEANT i mean he was just, like, gosh,
Speaker 1: man this is the model and that's WHAT i. WANT
Speaker 1: i want to get. That how CAN i get? That
Speaker 1: BUT i wasn't very. TOUGH i didn't like to, run
Speaker 1: didn't like to. Work and it was This, monday we
Speaker 1: were running wind sprints after practice and At Fourth, union
Speaker 1: you march, first like we. Were we have fatigued days
Speaker 1: Every tuesday And. Thursday excuse, Me monday And wednesday was
Speaker 1: prayed and fatigue. DAY i mean that we were. Fatigued
Speaker 1: we got our rifles and we got to prepare to
Speaker 1: march for however long that, is for an hour marching
Speaker 1: and just getting ready for this. PRAADE i hated. It
Speaker 1: so we come we were already coming to practice. Exhausted
Speaker 1: so it was one day that after every practice we
Speaker 1: do these wind sprints for conditioning and for, competition so
Speaker 1: we'll run ten and then after that it's. Competition whoever
Speaker 1: comes in first gets. Out so NATURALLY i was, like,
Speaker 1: Shit i'm the slowest one out. Here So i'm in
Speaker 1: a lolly gag until WHAT i, get you, KNOW i
Speaker 1: WHEN i KNOW i can beat somebody in and then get.
Speaker 1: Off so and wind up beating one of the second
Speaker 1: fastest guys that, day AND i throw my hands up
Speaker 1: in the air AND i every shit lifting t commercial
Speaker 1: with the last. WATER i did that on the ground
Speaker 1: and my coach was, Screaming, ah that's ALL i can
Speaker 1: hear is my helmets, on And i'm thinking they're cheering
Speaker 1: me on BECAUSE i did a great. Job he, Says, George,
Speaker 1: sure get your ass, up get your ass, up and
Speaker 1: run another. One there's no laying down on my field
Speaker 1: after you after you, win or after you finish your.
Speaker 1: Sports there's no laying. Down you. Walk And i'm pissed,
Speaker 1: up like, DAMN i just, won And i'm crying and
Speaker 1: bitching about. It and all of a, sudden my teammates
Speaker 1: was calling me soft and they were, like you know,
Speaker 1: what May you're just selfish and this and, that and
Speaker 1: he made me run another. One i' huffing and, puffing
Speaker 1: and then he is As i'm walking off the, Field
Speaker 1: he's standing over this. Bank his bank is about twenty
Speaker 1: FEET i guess, long and he's going downhill and just
Speaker 1: down on the other, side the postgraduates are practicing and
Speaker 1: he's watching, them sunglasses on hat on the whistle in his.
Speaker 1: Mouth he, Says George, kmarre he, says you're a rose.
Speaker 1: PEDAL i see what he. Says you're a rose. Pedal
Speaker 1: you look, good but you're, fragile just like a rose.
Speaker 1: Pedal so that's your. Nickname and then he, said do
Speaker 1: you want to play big time college? FOOTBALL i, said, yes,
Speaker 1: SIR i. Do he, said, well listen to me And
Speaker 1: i'll get you. There and from that moment ON i
Speaker 1: listened to. Him and it was not. EASY i still.
Speaker 1: Rebelled but ONCE i started seeing the system and how
Speaker 1: it could work for, me and how the people, there the,
Speaker 1: staff the, teachers the coaches were there to help, ME
Speaker 1: i began to really work. HARD i began to work
Speaker 1: at my. Craft SO i would spend hours working out
Speaker 1: in the. GYM i would miss damn and miss, dinner you,
Speaker 1: know just to get in every single rep THAT i,
Speaker 1: could BECAUSE i could then see, it taste and feel
Speaker 1: my opportunity coming now to be ready for. It. Damn,
Speaker 1: hey that's a good.
Speaker 2: Story, yeah THAT'S i bet that was tough as ship
Speaker 2: hearing that somebody call you a rose.
Speaker 1: Petal oh, yeah it. Was you look, good but you're. Fragile,
Speaker 1: hey that's tough. Man, yeah that's.
Speaker 2: Tough when do you feel, like because you've alluded to
Speaker 2: yourself being slow during this, time when do you felk
Speaker 2: like you started coming to your OWN i assume it
Speaker 2: At Ohio? State when did you start? Blossoming oh and
Speaker 2: kind of becoming that? Dude well At Old state or,
Speaker 2: yeah at O' state was.
Speaker 1: WELL i played some as my friend in my freshman
Speaker 1: year as a goal line running, back AND i had
Speaker 1: some success. Early it was a national televised game Against.
Speaker 1: Syracuse syracuse was, ranged, guys you looked us. UP i
Speaker 1: think in nineteen ninety two they were ranked a preseason
Speaker 1: ranked top, fifteen top. Ten it'suted to get the story,
Speaker 1: right BUT i never left facts getting away with good story.
Speaker 1: Anyway they were, ranked there were number two in the.
Speaker 1: COUNTRY i was just, going what year was, it nineteen ninety,
Speaker 1: two nineteen nineteen ninety, two just type in nineteen ninety,
Speaker 1: Two syracuse was, ten ring tenth in the. Country that
Speaker 1: Was that's that's the end of the, year. THOUGH i
Speaker 1: Bet i'm. Trying. Preseason, yeah ranked tip top, fifteen yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah top, ten and they Have Marvin, graves they got the,
Speaker 1: missile they got a defense that's. Swarming they Beat Ohio
Speaker 1: state that past year in The Citrus, bowl so they
Speaker 1: kind of. Know so it's a home game for, them
Speaker 1: and we're going to carry. Them were huge underdogs going
Speaker 1: in there on A saturday night game of the. Week,
Speaker 1: Okay Kirk kurbsey was our, quarterback and you knew we
Speaker 1: were going to run the football because he can't throw
Speaker 1: with the damn you know, that, Right and we had
Speaker 1: we had all this talent Outside Joe galloway and all of,
Speaker 1: that but we would go two tight ends and hand
Speaker 1: the ball off to me Or. Raymond but it's long story.
Speaker 1: Short Robert, smith who was our running, back was kind of,
Speaker 1: hurt had hurt ribs and he couldn't take on the,
Speaker 1: loads so we had to share the. Loads SO i
Speaker 1: was playing running, back good goal line running back that.
Speaker 1: Night so long story, SHORT i scored three touchdowns that.
Speaker 1: NIGHT i became Touchdown. Eddie The Ohio state fans loved.
Speaker 1: Me two weeks, later we play our second biggest rival
Speaker 1: in The Big ten at the Time illinois and during that,
Speaker 1: period during the Era illinois owned. Us, okay they would
Speaker 1: no matter if we're playing them In champagne or down
Speaker 1: In ohio in The. Columbus they just had our. Number
Speaker 1: and this was the year we were supposed to beat.
Speaker 1: Them going to The Rose bull and so. Forth and
Speaker 1: the first, CARRY i get a goal. Line you, Know i'm, thinking,
Speaker 1: okay this is the big. Ten Whatever i'm going to.
Speaker 1: Score i'm, thinking, like How i'm going to score my?
Speaker 1: Touchdown with my touchdowns going to touchdown celebrations going to be,
Speaker 1: yeah go and get the, ball go up the. Middle
Speaker 1: BEFORE i go, down the ball pops out and bounces
Speaker 1: twice off the, turf and The illinois defended pictures that
Speaker 1: it runs back ninety seven yards for a. Touchdown oh, shit,
Speaker 1: yeah shit is? Right yeah. Yeah So i'm, like, Oh i'm.
Speaker 1: Pissed i'm. Embarrassed i'm, like, DAMN i don't even get
Speaker 1: a little. Opportunity cooper yells at me, again, goes get,
Speaker 1: go redeem. Yourself wind up scoring a. TOUCHDOWN i brand
Speaker 1: somebody square flat over. MAN i was, pissed. Excited. Touchdown,
Speaker 1: well the game goes on back and, forth back and
Speaker 1: forth and we finally drive down for the winning. Touchdown
Speaker 1: he throws me in the. GAME i take the. TOSS
Speaker 1: i get the, toss nineteen. TOLLS i see the forced
Speaker 1: defender come. UPFIELD i cut it. Underneath i'm going to
Speaker 1: make a b line to the, pylon take the next,
Speaker 1: step get hit in the, back ball flies in the,
Speaker 1: air fumble. Recovered game. Over my season was done AND
Speaker 1: i didn't see the field to get into my junior.
Speaker 1: Year no, ship no. Ship and that was in that
Speaker 1: moment between my freshmen and sophomore year to my junior,
Speaker 1: year that that's WHEN i found out WHO i. WAS
Speaker 1: i had to dig a little bit.
Speaker 2: Deeper, yeah because you're in you, know for people who don't,
Speaker 2: know like when you have when you drop off kind
Speaker 2: of like that and you're going through a second year
Speaker 2: and you're not touching the, field and you're going through
Speaker 2: two different offseasons where not only are you training hard
Speaker 2: to get back right, mentally you know every coach probably,
Speaker 2: teammates like you just, know eyes are on you differently
Speaker 2: than what you would, like, yes and so you are
Speaker 2: in some lonely spots, sometimes no.
Speaker 1: Question so when you're fighting, back LIKE i can't wait
Speaker 1: to hear the next.
Speaker 2: Story like for people who don't, know like coming back
Speaker 2: from shit that where you feel like you're. Defined want a,
Speaker 2: fumbler always a, Fumbler like every coach.
Speaker 1: Around that thinks you this like you, can't you, know,
Speaker 1: teammates it's tough to overcome that tough. Mentally so what
Speaker 1: happened junior? YEAR i, well how'd you battle back to
Speaker 1: get that respect back for your? Jam? WELL i bust my, Ass,
Speaker 1: YEAH i bust my. ASS i MEAN i could have.
Speaker 1: TRANSFERRED i thought about, transferring but that was only going
Speaker 1: to follow, me, Right SO i was. That my sophomore
Speaker 1: year was a little bit better in training, camp but
Speaker 1: the coaches still didn't trust. Me never got those opportunities,
Speaker 1: again you, know get mop up duty here and, there
Speaker 1: play a. Sparently but, yeah SO i had to wait
Speaker 1: my time because in our in our meeting, room we
Speaker 1: had three four running backs that all went to THE
Speaker 1: NFL H Robert, Smith Butler, Banote Raymond, Harris Jeff, cothine
Speaker 1: all four of them in the. League, yeah SO i
Speaker 1: had to wait my. Turn so WHAT i did WAS
Speaker 1: i showed up early six o'clock in the, morning would work,
Speaker 1: out AND i would come back twice a. DAY i
Speaker 1: would do two a. Days and you, know you Know
Speaker 1: Dave kennedy right?
Speaker 2: Now, no, YEAH i KNOW i know him because he
Speaker 2: was a recruiter of mine BEFORE i went.
Speaker 1: There, okay perfect, well his workouts were notoriously. Difficult, yes
Speaker 1: guys talked about that all, Yes AND i would do
Speaker 1: his workouts twice a. Day so all the pain THAT i,
Speaker 1: felt the hurt THAT i, felt the, embarrassment the, discouragement
Speaker 1: and all the negative talk that was going on around,
Speaker 1: ME i used that for fuel for my fire to
Speaker 1: come back even. Harder so my junior, year there was
Speaker 1: still speculation that we don't, know he's the, guy got
Speaker 1: this young recruit coming. In let's split time and speak
Speaker 1: carries with. Him and the first couple of games WERE
Speaker 1: i had one hundred yards Against. Washington when we look
Speaker 1: at the, TAPE i should have had two. Hundred it's missed.
Speaker 1: OPPORTUNITIES i was, Rattled but it wasn't until LIKE i
Speaker 1: Played Michigan state In, michigan At Michigan state at Least,
Speaker 1: lancing where everything just kind of slowed down AND i
Speaker 1: wound up have my first two hundred yard. Game and
Speaker 1: then that's when it started to pick up and then
Speaker 1: my senior year was off the.
Speaker 2: Charts oh, yeah, Yeah heisman. Winner, yeah edged out Of Tommy.
Speaker 1: Fraser, yeah it's like the closest it's is it? Still
Speaker 1: is it still the THING i think at the, Time,
Speaker 1: yeah at the.
Speaker 2: Time, yeah closest vote in history at the, Time Tommy
Speaker 2: fraser shout out Of nebraska fifty.
Speaker 1: Votes, Dude tommy was the beast. Too, listen, Man Tommy,
Speaker 1: Fraser it's no joke that to beat him out, Right
Speaker 1: he's an all time, great one of the greatest players
Speaker 1: ever in college. Football you can talk About Tim. Cheebow cool,
Speaker 1: right Touchdown, Timmy, Man, listen he was BEYOND i, mean
Speaker 1: the option was no. Joke they ran that option to
Speaker 1: perfection with him And Lawrence. Phillips, please back in the,
Speaker 1: day Many nebraska fans still call me and tweet me
Speaker 1: about about giving The heisman back To. Tommy, REALLY i
Speaker 1: took a picture of it to hear the. Troll, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
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Speaker 1: Get through junior.
Speaker 2: YEAR i assume you finished out the ju your junior,
Speaker 2: year once you started hitting your, stride had a phenomenal senior.
Speaker 2: Year you go on and get drafted in the first.
Speaker 2: Round it was winning The? Heisman would you say one
Speaker 2: of the highlights of it looking back moments without a, doubt,
Speaker 2: man just because Probably i'm sure it's an emotional night
Speaker 2: lay The heisman when you think about your mom making
Speaker 2: that choice in high, school overcome what you overcame in
Speaker 2: college And i'm getting to that. Point you, see you're
Speaker 2: on a pedestal at the, time but people never really
Speaker 2: see right what you got to.
Speaker 1: Go ahead to go. THROUGH i, mean just five years before,
Speaker 1: THAT i wasn't at uh a fourth union and getting
Speaker 1: ready for a march to wait For March march five
Speaker 1: years getting a rose. Pedal. Yeah well before, yeah before,
Speaker 1: THAT i was six fight pounds AND i used to
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, EIGHT i would practice my heisman speech in
Speaker 1: the mirror of my grandmother's. House really, yep AND i
Speaker 1: promise you, MAN i would look up at the stars
Speaker 1: and ask and Tell, GOD i know you have something
Speaker 1: special for. ME i have no idea How i'm going
Speaker 1: to get there or when or, what BUT i know
Speaker 1: it's coming and it's like a whirl when it just
Speaker 1: it just. Happened so when the heisman was a very surreal.
Speaker 1: Moment BUT i wasn't, surprised BUT i was, like, damn
Speaker 1: that really just. Happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's kind of like those are you a fan?
Speaker 2: Of like The law of attraction and stuff like. That
Speaker 2: it's like one of those things where you're in your
Speaker 2: mind you're, Like i'm not, surprised but it's.
Speaker 1: Crazy that it's.
Speaker 2: Happened happened right BECAUSE i was seeing it before all that.
Speaker 1: Stuff visualizing, it seeing, it. Feeling there's so much to,
Speaker 1: that so much to. Prayer you, know prayer is a
Speaker 1: very powerful tool that we can lie or it only
Speaker 1: goes as far as much as you believe. It if
Speaker 1: you don't believe it by, faith then it's not going to.
Speaker 1: Happen but if you really believe it and you have
Speaker 1: faith in the, vision you have faith in the, dream
Speaker 1: and you work on that part of you every single
Speaker 1: day that you get. Up you bend your will To
Speaker 1: god's purpose for, you and trust in the visions and
Speaker 1: the dreams and the intuitions that you have about your
Speaker 1: purpose in. Life you will you will see things unfold for.
Speaker 1: You but the moment that you doubt it and, said,
Speaker 1: Well i'm gonna Test god like it only it only
Speaker 1: happens for those so those idiots they go to church every,
Speaker 1: weekend or those those people that you know just believe
Speaker 1: in psalms and read The bible every. Day if you
Speaker 1: have that, attitude then it will never happen for.
Speaker 2: You, well usually those attitudes come when something hard actually
Speaker 2: happens for. Them but somebody will get. Believing they'll get you,
Speaker 2: know they'll listen to a speech by you and then
Speaker 2: go off Like i'm gonna do this and that in
Speaker 2: the moment like you get some, pushback like you got
Speaker 2: To he's that same energy even in those moments.
Speaker 1: That the pushback is the blessing right, right every superher
Speaker 1: hero has to have, it has to have a, demon
Speaker 1: has to have an. Enemy you got to have that
Speaker 1: adversary that's going to bring the best out of. You
Speaker 1: when you get your ass, kicked you get your teeth knocked,
Speaker 1: in and you get kicked in the, gut how are
Speaker 1: you going to? Respond? Right you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 1: how do you? Respond that's the beauty of. It and
Speaker 1: it happens in, business it happens in, football it happens
Speaker 1: in every aspect of, life as a, father as a,
Speaker 1: husband as whatever it. Is you want to get tested
Speaker 1: because the dream is so, Big you're going to have some.
Speaker 1: Pushback you want to have some. Resistance, yeah, YEAH i like.
Speaker 2: That so now you go To. Tennessee, obviously your career
Speaker 2: speaks for itself. Phenomenal talk a little bit about some
Speaker 2: of your ups and downs being In. Tennessee titan first.
Speaker 1: Three years were, difficult having no, identity my, Fault Houston, Oilers,
Speaker 1: Houston Houston oilers first round the, year the first, YEAR,
Speaker 1: yep and played in front of eighteen thousand fans on the.
Speaker 1: Average that was very. Difficult coming From Ohio state to
Speaker 1: the league and seeing just, like, wow this is this
Speaker 1: is the?
Speaker 2: League, right what would the wild moment speak on like
Speaker 2: the wow this is the league because you know we might,
Speaker 2: know but give people perspective on what you.
Speaker 1: Mean, well At Ohio state we had at the, time
Speaker 1: we had a, big huge hot. Tub we had great tubs.
Speaker 1: Exactly we had a practice, helmet a game, helmet game,
Speaker 1: shoes practice, shoes practice, pass game pass everything you, want
Speaker 1: everything you wanted down to the. Detail it's even worse
Speaker 1: now you even it's even. Better. Now excuse me with
Speaker 1: with guys how they get. Pampered WHEN i got To,
Speaker 1: houston it was a ben with jockstraps in, it and
Speaker 1: you go in, there you get your, job strap, out
Speaker 1: shake it, out you look at it as any ball
Speaker 1: stains on it or, whatever and then it was good
Speaker 1: to go to use. Yours And i'm, like what part
Speaker 1: of the game is. This it looked like the facility
Speaker 1: was literally in like a former post office building. Transformed
Speaker 1: that's fucking, nuts, right it is meeting and you're, Thinking,
Speaker 1: yo this is THE. Nfl this is THE. Nfl like
Speaker 1: the meeting the meeting rooms you had like wooden tables
Speaker 1: you would seat your grandmother's house and chairs wrapped around.
Speaker 1: It for, lunch we had to go down the street
Speaker 1: to go to this little bodega and get like popeye
Speaker 1: chicken or. Sandwiches and it was nothing like you would
Speaker 1: ever imagine gout professional athlete guys smoking cigarettes and shit
Speaker 1: out the parking. LOT i mean it was it was,
Speaker 1: like this is, crazy and that was the. Culture but
Speaker 1: they that's how They that's how they did In. Houston
Speaker 1: once they announced that we were Leaving houston and going To,
Speaker 1: tennessee there was a ghost. Town it was nobody coming
Speaker 1: to the, game so there was no support attic going
Speaker 1: to be there for two years in this. Scenario and
Speaker 1: the attendance was so. Bad our last, GAME i think
Speaker 1: it was Against. BALTIMORE i think it may have been
Speaker 1: seven thousand or less in the, stands and that's including
Speaker 1: the concession stands. Workers oh my. God you can hear
Speaker 1: conversations like intimate they read the hot, Dogs get the
Speaker 1: fucking hot dogs right. Now you can hear somebody talking
Speaker 1: about what they did last week or problems that are
Speaker 1: going on in the. Stands, yeah and it was the craziest.
Speaker 1: Environment but the first three years were, very very. Tough
Speaker 1: playing In memphis was it was a.
Speaker 4: Travesty and playing In memphis was the first, year our
Speaker 4: first Year tennessee tight because we had Coach fisher on
Speaker 4: and he was talking about the dynamic of going and
Speaker 4: playing In memphis and traveling back and at first you
Speaker 4: were something About.
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt er maybe At Tennessee state you were using their.
Speaker 1: Facilities there's In Tennessee states. Facilities, yeah what are we?
Speaker 1: Doing yeah, yeah, Yeah Tennessee state. Facilities go back and
Speaker 1: forth TO uh To. Memphis every game was it was
Speaker 1: an away. Game we stayed LIKE i, THINK i want to,
Speaker 1: say a motel Six, no, yeah like for when we
Speaker 1: went To. Memphis so that was not like we had
Speaker 1: the best of. Anything we had to take cabs over To,
Speaker 1: hey what were some of the wildest motel six? Stories oh?
Speaker 1: Many we Would, well she was only there for one,
Speaker 1: night so it was it wasn't a whole lot that
Speaker 1: we could, do but just to prove that the rooms
Speaker 1: were being cleaned every, Week, yeah we would leave like
Speaker 1: a piece of like gum war or or an old
Speaker 1: sandwich underneath the blanket where the extra blake it, is
Speaker 1: to see if it will be there when we got.
Speaker 1: Back and lo and. Behold it was there the entire. Year.
Speaker 1: Ship yeah it. WAS i mean it was gutter, man
Speaker 1: it was gutn but it developed the toughness to. Us
Speaker 1: so once we got here in nineteen ninety nine and
Speaker 1: we saw the facility, built we saw the the stadium go,
Speaker 1: up and when we walked in that stadium on a
Speaker 1: preseason game and it was, packed it was, like oh,
Speaker 1: shit we gotta win starting right. Now there's no time
Speaker 1: to bullshit, here there's no time to put a bad
Speaker 1: product on the. Field so we don't have any. Fans
Speaker 1: this Was that was. It that was that Was that
Speaker 1: was The michigan ingredient for. Us and that's when things just.
Speaker 1: Shifted you. Know we went from no mads to.
Speaker 2: Kings you have some cold, tubs you have some hot
Speaker 2: tubs with that the facility that was.
Speaker 1: Back then right. Then still it's still different. Now, yeah
Speaker 1: we had a huge hot, Tub we had a huge.
Speaker 1: Goal you could fit thirty guys in the cold tub at.
Speaker 1: ONCE i, mean all of this stuff that that we
Speaker 1: wish we, Had, like oh my, god now you go over,
Speaker 1: there it's even That oh yeah, yeah, yeah it's really. Better,
Speaker 1: yeah it's way. Better, man but, yeah that's those are
Speaker 1: the those are the glory. Days.
Speaker 2: Man you know my rookie, year so coming From nebraska
Speaker 2: high up facilities as, well and then going to The
Speaker 2: washington football. Team it like my after our first, PRACTICE
Speaker 2: i remember coming in and thinking, Like, yo we're the
Speaker 2: cold tubs and.
Speaker 1: Stuff like what what's going?
Speaker 2: On because the cafeterias are weird in like every team at.
Speaker 2: First but you walk into the training room and off
Speaker 2: on like some side room Like rack Or Rat Brian
Speaker 2: Rackpo London. Fletcher they're like they have water hoses putting
Speaker 2: these these tubs, together just these little binds that they,
Speaker 2: had like you know from outside like oh yeah this
Speaker 2: is how we's how we you know, right this is
Speaker 2: how we got to do it here, man until we
Speaker 2: get some tubs next. Year BUT i was, Thinking, yo
Speaker 2: this is THE. Nfl, yeah it's.
Speaker 1: Surprising and it was way it was way. Different, yeah
Speaker 1: money went into players compared.
Speaker 2: To in, college it goes into the. Facilities, now nineteen ninety,
Speaker 2: nine that year you guys go to The Super. Bowl
Speaker 2: talk to us about that. Year we talk to us
Speaker 2: about what it's like playing for Coach. Fish how you
Speaker 2: guys all handled the. Transition like you, said now you've
Speaker 2: got fans in the, stadium you're trying to, basically, hey
Speaker 2: we want to win and keep this the way it.
Speaker 1: Is we got to show out for these.
Speaker 2: Guys talk about that transition of going into playing that.
Speaker 1: Season, yeah it. Was it was a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Changing it was the, uniforms it was the. Name the
Speaker 1: fans were part of the process of naming, us the
Speaker 1: tightness and we we we felt a genuine love with.
Speaker 1: Them Coach fisher was masterful of bringing us From houston
Speaker 1: To nashville because we were still. Competitive we went eight
Speaker 1: and eight during those, years and everybody looks at his
Speaker 1: record eight and? Eight what the FUCK i, mean think
Speaker 1: about what he had to deal. With, yeah like that's
Speaker 1: that shit ain't, easy, RIGHT i mean to try to
Speaker 1: get a team ready every single, week selling us on
Speaker 1: what you, know with with no, fans like come, on,
Speaker 1: like that's that's to be, commendable to put a product out,
Speaker 1: there to do the best you. Can we could have
Speaker 1: easily went one and, twelve and it were one in
Speaker 1: fifteen and and and that was okay because there was
Speaker 1: no pressure there for us to, win so to come
Speaker 1: up with creative ways to sell the game plan every single,
Speaker 1: week and we were dead. Tired we there was no
Speaker 1: was no incentive really to play other than for each.
Speaker 1: Other those were some tough. Years so once we got
Speaker 1: everything in place and we finally had a sense that
Speaker 1: we that we, mattered and it was it was, like oh,
Speaker 1: god you can feel it in the and you can
Speaker 1: feel the. Energy and training camp in nineteen ninety, nine
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i was in my third, Year steve was coming
Speaker 1: into his. Own we had picked just drafted some, receivers young,
Speaker 1: Receivers Kevin, dyson we just Drafted Javon. Curse. Yeah now
Speaker 1: that was literally, like oh, god we can Really we
Speaker 1: already had a good, defense but he set it.
Speaker 2: Off because he had that rookie year that was like
Speaker 2: he couldn't use uneptional.
Speaker 1: Man he was. Unblockable and then you throw in the
Speaker 1: fans where it was the loudest stadium in the league
Speaker 1: at the. Time they thought we were piping sound in.
Speaker 1: It so it was. Raucous it was a hornous ness
Speaker 1: when you walked into A dulphia stadium and you had
Speaker 1: to deal with a team that was nasty that, said,
Speaker 1: look we're gonna run the ball thirty times you're not
Speaker 1: gonna even worry about throwing it, vertical but you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to deal with us in the box for sixty plus.
Speaker 1: Minutes he's gonna be iron fists for sixty more plus.
Speaker 1: Minutes are you man enough to deal with? That? Yeah
Speaker 1: you know What i'm. Saying that's the mentality that we.
Speaker 1: Had and it was a beautiful. Thing you. Know we were,
Speaker 1: nasty were, grimy work going throw up. Three we're gonna
Speaker 1: beat you ten to nine thirteen three, yeah, yeah pacifire,
Speaker 1: mouth no, doubt. Man and that's we're gonna get. It
Speaker 1: the old the ski mask, quay you, know that's how
Speaker 1: we could do. It and h ninety nine was a great.
Speaker 1: Year we did not lose a game in that stadium
Speaker 1: at all that that, YEAR i think for the first
Speaker 1: our first two or three, years and have never lost
Speaker 1: a home. Game. Damn. Yeah now let's get to the Super.
Speaker 1: Bowl how how how often do you still think about
Speaker 1: The Super? Bowl you? Know it comes up almost every
Speaker 1: day in some. Capacity hey that's, tough. Man well it's.
Speaker 1: Not it's, not, NO i, know But i'm saying like,
Speaker 1: that like, here and here's, Why because it was it's
Speaker 1: tougher in THE Afc Championship game to get, there that's
Speaker 1: the toughest game to play in. Too that's a that's
Speaker 1: a grind out, war and it's survival of the fittest
Speaker 1: in that. Game so to get to The Super bowl was, like, ah,
Speaker 1: okay we're, here and it's that's the. Reward to play
Speaker 1: for the ultimate prize and to have battled the way we,
Speaker 1: Did i'm okay with. That i'm okay with. That it
Speaker 1: let me, know like at that moment When Kevin dyson
Speaker 1: stretched out his arm didn't cross the goal line and
Speaker 1: the confetti's flying, everywhere it was, like, damn we just experienced.
Speaker 1: This we didn't. Win it hurts like, hell but it
Speaker 1: sparked something in us that we knew we had something
Speaker 1: special for a certain window of. Time SO i remember
Speaker 1: after that, game we flew back To nashville and we're
Speaker 1: supposed to supposed to The Pro, bowl AND i Told,
Speaker 1: JEFF i, said, look, Man i'm thinking about not even
Speaker 1: going to The Pro. Bowl you, KNOW i want to
Speaker 1: get started on next year right. NOW i think HE'S
Speaker 1: i think he's mentioned that on the right right, now
Speaker 1: like not, tomorrow but right, Now i'm Gonna i'm gonna
Speaker 1: get stretched out'na, recovered But i'm hitting the. Hills i'm
Speaker 1: gonna go on the. Sabbatical i'm gonna go and train
Speaker 1: in the. Mountains i'm gonna go The rocky, style you,
Speaker 1: know club lane, style you know What i'm, saying where
Speaker 1: the rats are rolling around and the pipes are growing,
Speaker 1: out you, know you know that that type. Ship that's
Speaker 1: that's WHAT i was. On and, UH i was that
Speaker 1: hungry for it to have, that to be that close
Speaker 1: to winning. It and now that taste in your, mouth,
Speaker 1: man is. Intoxicating it's, addictive AND i wanted, that AND
Speaker 1: i felt like that STAGE i felt comfortable being. ON
Speaker 1: i Enjoyed That's that's WHERE i belonged on a on
Speaker 1: a stage like that. Consistently my goal was to get
Speaker 1: back there. Consistently and of course you know that the
Speaker 1: story behind, that BUT i did so knowing.
Speaker 2: That you don't ever go back and think like there's a,
Speaker 2: like is there anything else that could have been executed
Speaker 2: differently on that final?
Speaker 1: Play? Oh, YEAH i think. That is there any a
Speaker 1: different play you wish would have been?
Speaker 2: Called is there a different moment in that game THAT i,
Speaker 2: mean you know all those things you said was.
Speaker 1: MADE i, mean we're at the two yard.
Speaker 2: Line here We, hey by the, way a hell of
Speaker 2: a fucking tackle By Mike jones.
Speaker 1: Death, yeah he he played he played it. Well Kevin
Speaker 1: dyson could take a step further and THAT. O that's
Speaker 1: that was. It that was that was the. Play and
Speaker 1: they rushed the field and that and that's and so
Speaker 1: all she, Wrote but hindsight twenty, twenty, man we battled like. Warriors,
Speaker 1: Man AND i remember being in the huddle before this,
Speaker 1: play AND i said to, myself regardless of what, Happens
Speaker 1: i'm gonna hold my head up high because this is a,
Speaker 1: team the greatest show on. Turf was supposed to blow
Speaker 1: us out seventeen points or, whatever and we beat them
Speaker 1: earlier in that year two so had we gone into,
Speaker 1: overtime that defense was so. Tired it was it was
Speaker 1: our game to. Win so you, know WHEN i look, back,
Speaker 1: yeah we, lost but people remember that game and they
Speaker 1: have long lasting relationships and friendship from. It i've distracted so,
Speaker 1: much so many lessons in life about that THAT i
Speaker 1: can teach to my sons using my. Speeches so it's
Speaker 1: served its. Purpose it really. Did, YEAH i like that
Speaker 1: uh silver lining on it.
Speaker 2: Too the how you use it as influenced absolutely speeches
Speaker 2: and things like. That, obviously everyone knowing that we would
Speaker 2: have you on the, bus everybody included.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on the, baby because you couldn't do it because you.
Speaker 1: Baby taylor had a, Baby taylor Had REMEMBER i have no,
Speaker 1: baby not. YET i just. Arried next, YEAR i just
Speaker 1: got how'd you do?
Speaker 2: IT i we were out In oakland and we were
Speaker 2: about to fly To denver for our last, game AND
Speaker 2: i had had a plan to do it that year
Speaker 2: in some, capacity AND i was.
Speaker 1: Running out of. Time and WHEN i went To, Oakland i'm,
Speaker 1: like all, right how AM i going to swing?
Speaker 2: This SO i got to set up at this local
Speaker 2: at this local, restaurant set this que little spot up
Speaker 2: by the, window a little two. Seater and she'd always
Speaker 2: wanted a love note from. Me and you, know some
Speaker 2: the masculinity kicks at the times and you're, Like i'm
Speaker 2: not going to write you a love. Note but something
Speaker 2: clicked to my.
Speaker 1: HEAD i was, Like, okay if she's always want to
Speaker 1: love not for like her birthday or, Something i'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it for our.
Speaker 2: Engagement SO i wrote a very well written love. Letter
Speaker 2: gave it to her as like a birthday. Card she
Speaker 2: opened it. UP i said she had to read it
Speaker 2: aloud so that WAY i.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't fumble a, a so that WAY i wouldn't fumble over my.
Speaker 2: Words and she doesn't know at, first and then she
Speaker 2: gets in the last paragraph and she realizes coming, together
Speaker 2: she starts tearing. UP i get. OUT i moved the
Speaker 2: little table to the. SIDE i get down on a
Speaker 2: knee and crying WHILE i was tearing. Up But i'm
Speaker 2: like THE pda. Stuff it bothers. Me so getting over
Speaker 2: the hump being in public doing, it it was like
Speaker 2: a Big it was just a big. STEP i was,
Speaker 2: like here's WHAT i gotta do it in front of,
Speaker 2: people got a face one, Fears but.
Speaker 1: Yeah it. Was and it is dope because you create
Speaker 1: the moment in time that she'll never. Forget that's a
Speaker 1: memory that she'll never. Forget i'm glad you did it
Speaker 1: right too. Well thank you wrote a love. Letter wrote
Speaker 1: a love. LETTER i used to write love letters all
Speaker 1: the time back in grade. School when you're, like you,
Speaker 1: know writing some notes and you pass in the. Hallway
Speaker 1: but you know how it is this day and age man,
Speaker 1: like are your kids at the, right THEY'RE dm and.
Speaker 1: Stuff that's What i'm. Saying it's different now like body,
Speaker 1: parts like LIKE i SEE i see the ship that
Speaker 1: goes on in my. Household, yeah And i'm, like, look,
Speaker 1: hey cut this ship out right, now you cut it. Out,
Speaker 1: yeah you, Know i'm not gonna put. Myself he's never know,
Speaker 1: that not like. That but, yeah, yeah, yeah kids are
Speaker 1: it's different. Nowadays but it really is.
Speaker 2: Different but, anyway now we have the letter hanging, up
Speaker 2: so it was really. Good but WHAT i was going
Speaker 2: to ask you, was, yeah there it is right.
Speaker 1: There very, nice very. Nice, yeah beautiful. Girl. Man yeah that,
Speaker 1: yeah thank you. MAN i definitely.
Speaker 2: Did but going back to that year and just talking
Speaker 2: playing on The titans in, general everyone always loves to
Speaker 2: know what it was like stories Of steve McNair playing With.
Speaker 2: Eve you, know what teaching lessons you might have taken
Speaker 2: from him as a, teammate a, player a man off the,
Speaker 2: field any of that stuff that you might. Use, now
Speaker 2: what was, it, like what's something that exemplifies your guys',
Speaker 2: relationship your guys is being on the field. Together what
Speaker 2: are Some steve McNair stories that you might.
Speaker 1: Have, WELL i was a fan Of steve coming coming
Speaker 1: From Ohio state into, COLLEGE i mean into the Pro excuse.
Speaker 1: Me he went to All Corn state ON hbcu In,
Speaker 1: mississippi and his he was. LEGEND i mean, shit he
Speaker 1: graced the cover Of Sports, illustrated hands them The. HEISMAN
Speaker 1: i mean he's breaking all types of, records and you,
Speaker 1: know he was just an awesome. Athlete to to to,
Speaker 1: KNOW i mean he finished third or second in The
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy Maham Rashaan, salaam and he was. Everything but
Speaker 1: to become his, teammate to get to Know steve. Intimately
Speaker 1: he was the type that wouldn't allow people in if
Speaker 1: he didn't. Know he was very protective of his feelings
Speaker 1: and what he thought and so. Forth so it was
Speaker 1: really tough to get beyond the exterior Of Io steve.
Speaker 1: Was he didn't trust a lot of. People but once
Speaker 1: he lets you, in, man he was just come on
Speaker 1: his bus and flip flops and a glass of moonshine
Speaker 1: and you, know dipping his mouth coming from. Fishing he
Speaker 1: was just a country boy at. Heart he was more country.
Speaker 1: Boy loved being a country boy than loved being a football.
Speaker 1: Player you, know he loved his. Family he was a
Speaker 1: family man and and that's that's who he. Was loved his.
Speaker 1: Teammates and there were times after practice Every, friday every Single,
Speaker 1: friday we would uh at the when we were The.
Speaker 1: Titans he was he would get catfish and hush puppies
Speaker 1: and and get some, beer you, know and sit out
Speaker 1: and talk talk ship in the in the back office
Speaker 1: and the equipment room and just just vibees watch you.
Speaker 1: Know Every, friday would we would do. THAT i love
Speaker 1: those days because the days were over a short day
Speaker 1: getting out Good. Friday. Man it was the absolute. Best
Speaker 1: and he would give you the shirt off office's back for,
Speaker 1: you you. Know and that's how he. WAS i remember
Speaker 1: a time WHEN i was was a worst game THAT
Speaker 1: i probably played as a. Pro it was A monday
Speaker 1: night game Against. Baltimore fumbled the balls coming off of
Speaker 1: a toe. Injury my mother wind up winds up getting
Speaker 1: arrested for, something and uh coming to the game and
Speaker 1: it's and the final after the game, Show i'm like
Speaker 1: feeling really, low you, know dad and this and barracked
Speaker 1: all this, stuff and he calls me up and it's just,
Speaker 1: hey two seven, man let's go out and get something to.
Speaker 1: Eat you, KNOW i know how you're. Feeling and he
Speaker 1: was that type of type of, teammate you, know always
Speaker 1: protecting his. Brothers BUT i watched this, man you, know
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of adversity during his time as a.
Speaker 1: Quarterback being An African american, quarterback he had to door a.
Speaker 1: Lot it took him time to find his. GAME i
Speaker 1: think there were times when we handcuffed him because of his.
Speaker 1: Abilities steve was a quarterback that wasn't the, pockets stand
Speaker 1: in the, pocket throw the ball down field type of.
Speaker 1: Guy and he could do those, things but he needed
Speaker 1: weapons around. Him he needed to be the highlight of the.
Speaker 1: Offense he wasn't the type of this play action and
Speaker 1: then throw it to the. Flat you. Know he had,
Speaker 1: special special skill. Set so it wasn't until two thousand
Speaker 1: and one two that they really began to put the
Speaker 1: reins in his hands and allow him to, become you,
Speaker 1: know the wizard on the. Field he really went from
Speaker 1: an elementary offense to be coming to having a PhD
Speaker 1: literally on the field calling his own, plays going five
Speaker 1: wives and we didn't even have the. Plays we needed
Speaker 1: to go over the plays and. Practice he would know
Speaker 1: how to check and manipulate the defense and win the,
Speaker 1: run win the. SLIDE i mean just all the nuances
Speaker 1: that you wanted to see out of a. Quarterback and
Speaker 1: he has watched his confidence grow over time where he
Speaker 1: can put the ball on your ear. Lob but there
Speaker 1: was also a time when he couldn't throw a five
Speaker 1: yeard out because his confidence was so. Low so to
Speaker 1: watch the drastic difference from one player to the next
Speaker 1: was incredible to see, that and it was all based
Speaker 1: off of one thing was. Perseverance he persevered through the,
Speaker 1: doubt through the, naysayers through personal, doubt through his own personal,
Speaker 1: demons not wanting to play the. Game there was a
Speaker 1: game when Against Kansas city when he got hit in the.
Speaker 1: Sternum he was boot off the, field didn't want to
Speaker 1: play football. AGAIN i wanted to come back two or
Speaker 1: three weeks. Later ah just cold off the bench in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter through the game. Win he touchdown Against
Speaker 1: pittsburgh and three. Rivers so it was all those little things, that,
Speaker 1: man this dude is just mentally. Tough he was physically,
Speaker 1: tough but more so mentally inspiracy tough than anything.
Speaker 2: Else damn are there are there a couple of plays
Speaker 2: that would define you guys as arguably being the two
Speaker 2: Best titans that ever put on a, uniform or are
Speaker 2: there a couple of plays like you're in the moment
Speaker 2: he might go off cuff and be, like, hey now
Speaker 2: we're gonna do, this or some you know something that's, like,
Speaker 2: uh would be fun to to kind of know about
Speaker 2: that doesn't go with the ebbs and flows of every other.
Speaker 1: Story, Well steve during HIS mvp year wouldn't practice during the.
Speaker 1: Week oh really? Nah he would always as TO, qb
Speaker 1: would not practice during the. Week we did not see.
Speaker 1: Him he was in the in the training room taking a.
Speaker 1: Nap He'll Sanford AND's son the price is, Right matt
Speaker 1: lock all. Out that was his. Thing he would watch
Speaker 1: all those shows and they would come out to. Practice
Speaker 1: because he was banged up a. Lot so we were
Speaker 1: In New. York we were playing In New York. GIANTS
Speaker 1: i think we lost suggest a week before and he
Speaker 1: could not move like his. TOE i think he had
Speaker 1: a toe injury or a knee. Injury he was banged
Speaker 1: up from head to toel and we were losing the.
Speaker 1: GAME i think a boy like fourteen, points fifteen points
Speaker 1: or something like, that and he led us to a,
Speaker 1: COMEBACK i mean just with five, wives no, HUDDLE i
Speaker 1: think for the last for the last, quarter and he
Speaker 1: led us to a comeback in A New york. Market
Speaker 1: and that to me was just so impressive because he
Speaker 1: never gave. Up he never shied away from. Adversity even
Speaker 1: when we were down and. Losing he always was going
Speaker 1: to come up and show. Up another thing About steve,
Speaker 1: too and when he was in, college he Played Youngstown
Speaker 1: state In youngstown and it's blistering, cold it's like fifteen below,
Speaker 1: zero playing in the playoff, game and he's not he's
Speaker 1: not playing. Well he knows he's leaving the next year
Speaker 1: after the, season but he continues to play deep into
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and there getting their asses kicked in the,
Speaker 1: cold and continues to fight for his teammates in. Himself
Speaker 1: so he is another example of how selfless he was
Speaker 1: as a quarterback and as a. Person it's.
Speaker 2: Amazing, yeah that, Was, uh that's, wild. MAN i, mean
Speaker 2: how how how do you when you first heard the?
Speaker 1: News what went through your mind when he had you,
Speaker 1: know and everything went down and. Happened, WELL i DIDN'T
Speaker 1: i didn't believe. IT i didn't want to believe, it
Speaker 1: but when it was confirmed it was still is a. Shot,
Speaker 1: yeah there's something you never get, over you, know the
Speaker 1: moment you find. OUT i was driving back From, atlanta
Speaker 1: my life and my. Son we were coming back to
Speaker 1: celebrate The fourth Of, july and it was not a
Speaker 1: cloud in the. Sky it was a hot summer, day
Speaker 1: and as we got closer to town and the words started to,
Speaker 1: spread it just felt like it was like a haze
Speaker 1: over the. City it started to rain and pour for three,
Speaker 1: days for three, days and the city was just. Down
Speaker 1: it was like the worst loss you can ever. Imagine
Speaker 1: and you go to, sleep wake up hoping that it
Speaker 1: was just a bad, dream but only realized that that's
Speaker 1: what it, was and all the things that went around,
Speaker 1: it you, know was just even more. Devastating, yeah you
Speaker 1: know WHAT i, Mean, yeah no.
Speaker 2: Doubt and then everybody's probably, pulling you, know one to hear, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah because you're, Ready, george and you, know, yeah that's.
Speaker 1: Unfortunate.
Speaker 2: Man we actually had shout, out you, Know Matt, NEELY.
Speaker 2: Rp Matt, neely we had our first social media guy
Speaker 2: producer for the. Bus he passed on. Us so suddenly
Speaker 2: last year he would have been my man would have
Speaker 2: had a he WOULD i had a chubby back, there
Speaker 2: like it's so ecstatic that.
Speaker 1: You were on the, bomb, Man but that one was sudden, too,
Speaker 1: man and it was that's just. Crazy that's why you
Speaker 1: have to take every day as a. Blessing. Bro you
Speaker 1: can't take any day for. Granted you know What i'm,
Speaker 1: Saying you really have. To just waking up is the.
Speaker 1: Gift LIKE i can get up and if you can,
Speaker 1: walk see touch, here all your elements in alignment and
Speaker 1: are in good. SHAPE i, mean that's another. Blessing and
Speaker 1: the fact that you can see your loved ones and
Speaker 1: they're doing well is another. Blessing because there will come
Speaker 1: a time when your numbers, called your numbers called.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, yeah, well shifting from a shifting to A i
Speaker 2: wouldn't say lighter, note BUT i want to talk about
Speaker 2: your transition to from The titans To dallas and how
Speaker 2: that transition. Was, now did you was your contract up
Speaker 2: and you went To dallas where you? Traded were you?
Speaker 2: RELEASED i was? Released talk about that?
Speaker 1: Time, well that time was tough BECAUSE i could see
Speaker 1: the writing on the. WALL i was a little long
Speaker 1: in the tooth age, WISE i was thirty thirty one years.
Speaker 1: OLD i had a lot of knowledge on my. Body of,
Speaker 1: course they wanted me to take a pay cut and, said,
Speaker 1: OKAY i. CAN i can do, that but to what,
Speaker 1: extent you, know to the point WHERE i wasn't going
Speaker 1: to be protected in terms of, well if they could
Speaker 1: they wanted to cut me in the middle of the
Speaker 1: season or during, preseason they could do that with no.
Speaker 1: Repercussions SO i just wanted a little more reassurance that
Speaker 1: what you say was you going to, do is you're
Speaker 1: going to. Do you're going to allow me to come,
Speaker 1: in get my body, right come back and you, know
Speaker 1: just got my veteran at this. Time just let me
Speaker 1: ride out. Hard you, KNOW i still want to be
Speaker 1: able to get the. Opportunities that's WHAT i wanted wanted to.
Speaker 1: Do but they had plans of making me the second down,
Speaker 1: guy only limiting me to a certain amount of. Plays
Speaker 1: and that's, fine but in terms of the dollar, VALUE
Speaker 1: i had TO i had to protect, that and we
Speaker 1: just never could see out of eye on. That SO i, said,
Speaker 1: Okay Bill, parcells he does well with. Veterans there could
Speaker 1: be a resurgence. There they have a talented. Roster they
Speaker 1: Had Keyshawn, Johnson Terry, Glenn Vinny Testa verity was the.
Speaker 1: Quarterback they had a nice offensive, line a defense that
Speaker 1: was was young but, nasty AND i had visions of
Speaker 1: being that back that Oj anderson was for him at
Speaker 1: The New York, giants and uh SO i took a.
Speaker 1: Chance so this is gonna be real. Quick that transition
Speaker 1: was the absolute. Worst, okay was it bad outing With?
Speaker 2: Tennessee was there a better taste in your?
Speaker 1: Mouth leave In? Tennessee it was BECAUSE i played them
Speaker 1: on A monday night game in the, preseason and our
Speaker 1: fans traveled down down to the, game and on our
Speaker 1: sideline there were like twenty seven number twenty seven jerseys
Speaker 1: crossed out and you're this. One you're On dallas When
Speaker 1: i'm On. Dallas and that was hurtful Because i'm, like,
Speaker 1: DAMN i helped build that brand to what It yeah it,
Speaker 1: was and Now i'm in A dallas uniform and Only
Speaker 1: god knows what's going to happen now IS i have
Speaker 1: no idea how this whole thing's going to shake. Out
Speaker 1: and that's that's why it was a bad breakup between
Speaker 1: You tennessee fans and, You oh it. Was it was
Speaker 1: a bad. Breakup oh, man it was. Not it was
Speaker 1: not the storybook ending THAT i hoped for and hoping
Speaker 1: to go To dallas to kind of alleviate the, pain
Speaker 1: but it only just compounded the. Pain it just really
Speaker 1: spread BECAUSE i saw THAT i was going to have
Speaker 1: another opportunity to play football. Again so that and that was.
Speaker 2: It, now did you know transitioning to The dallas that
Speaker 2: had this could possibly be my last year in THE.
Speaker 1: NFL i knew it was going to be my, last
Speaker 1: either my last year With dallas or With tennessee one
Speaker 1: or the. OTHER i wasn't quite. SURE i, mean, GRANTED
Speaker 1: i had one thousand yards coming off a thousand yards,
Speaker 1: season right, Yeah SO i don't know if the production
Speaker 1: was justified to, say you, know we need to he
Speaker 1: didn't have it. Anymore but WHEN i went To, DALLAS
Speaker 1: i kind of felt my heart that my love for
Speaker 1: the game was not the, same and the guys in
Speaker 1: locker room was, different AND i couldn't play for a.
Speaker 1: PAYCHECK i just couldn't do. IT i wasn't going to
Speaker 1: play just to get to SAY i got a rank
Speaker 1: somewhere and had nothing to do with. It so it
Speaker 1: was time for me to move on to something. Different,
Speaker 1: yeah that's always it's always, tough, man you, know going
Speaker 1: to different locker going to a different locker, room especially
Speaker 1: in your, situation like you, know doing what you did
Speaker 1: for the state Of.
Speaker 2: Tennessee and when you mentioned the whole it's hard to
Speaker 2: play for a, Paycheck like like when you play, football,
Speaker 2: dude you there's got to's there's a level of commitment
Speaker 2: no matter no matter. What and the way it sounded
Speaker 2: like from Coach fisher and then the way you alluded
Speaker 2: to during high school and college and everything like, that
Speaker 2: the work ethic that you put into. It it's just
Speaker 2: when you lose a little bit of that, passion it's
Speaker 2: you just see it. Differently, yeah you just see it.
Speaker 2: Differently like it's just you start looking like just another
Speaker 2: directions for different. Things and like when you lose that
Speaker 2: passion of playing ball and like wanting to like you,
Speaker 2: know put your face and, everything and then that kind
Speaker 2: of just goes. Away it's just it's. Different it's harder
Speaker 2: to play for that, paycheck it really.
Speaker 1: Is it really is just like why AM i doing?
Speaker 1: This and then you start Thinking i'm wearing a Number
Speaker 1: i'm wearing a number on my back right, now And
Speaker 1: i'm thirty something years. Old it's a young man's. Game
Speaker 1: so what's the next. Game If i'm wearing a number
Speaker 1: on my back And i've gotten paid fairly well on
Speaker 1: my my, career what is the guy that's writing the?
Speaker 1: Paycheck what is he? Worth how does he make his?
Speaker 1: Money how to get to where he wanted to. Be
Speaker 1: that's the next, step you. KNOW i want to be
Speaker 1: the check writer versus having someone dictate my. Future so
Speaker 1: that's around that. Time that's WHEN i began to start
Speaker 1: reading business, books reading books on, corporations reading books on
Speaker 1: great leaders Like Jack, welch you, know ge and good to,
Speaker 1: great you, know at that particular, time just just just
Speaker 1: doving into different owners in terms of how they conducted their.
Speaker 1: Business say what you want About Jerry. Jones the man
Speaker 1: is a beast. MAN i, mean, yeah. PERIOD i have
Speaker 1: a lot of respect AND i Love Jerry. Jones he's an.
Speaker 1: Entrepreneur he gets, it and he understands. Marketing he understands
Speaker 1: how to leverage his. BRAND i, Mean Dan dallas IS
Speaker 1: i think the wealthiest team and all of. Sports oh,
Speaker 1: yeah and it hadn't won the championship since nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: TWO i mean that says a. Lot ninety, seven ninety,
Speaker 1: SIX i think was it ninety? SIX i think ninety.
Speaker 1: Six you're, right she's in front of h thank you for.
Speaker 1: That it was the ninety, six, right it came out
Speaker 1: in ninety, Six so you, know he understands. That AND
Speaker 1: i have a great deal of respect for a guy like.
Speaker 1: That you, know he gave me an opportunity to come
Speaker 1: play for. Him BUT i just saw something different in
Speaker 1: terms of how you run different businesses from a different,
Speaker 1: perspective you, know but did it his, way but Certainly
Speaker 1: Jerry jones did his. Way so that That's those are
Speaker 1: the things that inspired. Me my ending inspired me to
Speaker 1: jump into, business into, entertainment into, entrepreneurship and to. Education
Speaker 1: and it, was you, know everything happens for a, reason.
Speaker 2: Right right, NOW i came ACROSS i came across an
Speaker 2: article where you talk about some of the challenges you
Speaker 2: had transitioning and retiring going through. That going from you,
Speaker 2: Know i've Talking i've had conversations WITH i mean multiple.
Speaker 1: Guys you know you probably were the same.
Speaker 2: Way but you sit there and you're you, know you're
Speaker 2: in steam rooms or hot to up cold tub and
Speaker 2: you're just kind of talking about next chapters and stuff like.
Speaker 2: That you're just, thinking, man it's like you go. THROUGH
Speaker 2: i TELL i try to tell young guys and guys
Speaker 2: Like i've went. THROUGH i was twenty three WHEN i.
Speaker 1: Came into the.
Speaker 2: League so you, know however Long i've worked to get
Speaker 2: to the league at twenty three years. Old Now i'm
Speaker 2: sitting here at thirty going on thirty. One but you,
Speaker 2: Know i'm on the back nine of my. Career but
Speaker 2: let's say my career was. OVER i worked UNTIL i
Speaker 2: was twenty three years old to play a seven year. Career, now,
Speaker 2: granted it's the dream that we always wanted in you're,
Speaker 2: after but it was our entire like mindset and life
Speaker 2: and identity all the way up until. Now you're trying
Speaker 2: to figure out what's going to be that next roller,
Speaker 2: coaster like the highs and lows of a roller, Coaster
Speaker 2: like what's going to be that next like adrenaline, dump because.
Speaker 1: That's what we. Get we, go we go to. That
Speaker 1: we played d one.
Speaker 2: Ball you were A heisman, Winner You're rookie of The,
Speaker 2: Year YOU'RE i, mean you Made tennessee into what it
Speaker 2: is that close to A Super. Bowl you were the
Speaker 2: man like you were you were you Were Eddie George Tennessee,
Speaker 2: titan and then you got to go into this chapter
Speaker 2: of retirement when, say, hey the treads wearing off like
Speaker 2: you once you figure out you're a, commodity it's a
Speaker 2: hard pill to swallow that your the tires are just
Speaker 2: wearing and, hey we're gonna have to get a new vehicle.
Speaker 1: In here the number one in your back, Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah can you talk about some of those stressful
Speaker 2: times when you right after retirement and then figuring out
Speaker 2: that next.
Speaker 1: Step, yeah it was a difficult one, exciting but, difficult
Speaker 1: and it was more about finding your next passion or
Speaker 1: finding the next purpose in your. Life you realize that
Speaker 1: football is a, platform not your. Purpose whether you've achieved
Speaker 1: great things like The hall Of, Fame Pro, Bowler All
Speaker 1: pro or just simply played for seven, years it's just
Speaker 1: still a. Platform it's what you do with it and
Speaker 1: identifying your purpose with that. Thereafter so it felt LIKE
Speaker 1: i was in the twilight zone WHEN i first. Retired
Speaker 1: dealt with migraine headaches because of, stress dealt with, anxiety
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep at night in a gut full of, butterflies not,
Speaker 1: wondering wondering what's going to happen the next. DAY i
Speaker 1: was not happy at all in my life at that particular.
Speaker 1: Time my wife was, pregnant so all those things were
Speaker 1: just very difficult to try to make it all make, Sense, Like,
Speaker 1: damn what DID i just go? Through how DID i
Speaker 1: get to this? Point what DO i do? Now? But?
Speaker 1: Fuck who AM? I you? Know for so many YEARS i, nurtured,
Speaker 1: cultivated perfected my craft as a running back known as
Speaker 1: a running. Back now that's? Gone what's? Next i'm thirty
Speaker 1: one years. OLD i wasn't born to play football and.
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Speaker 2: back to the, episode you, know, Right so we're on
Speaker 2: such a calendar, Year like when you get, done you're
Speaker 2: In Coach fisher's, Office, HEY i don't want to go
Speaker 2: to The Pro. BOWL i want to work on Next
Speaker 2: april when we get To when we get to, work
Speaker 2: then it's training. Camp how AM? I how's my body gonna?
Speaker 2: Look how AM i gonna feel going into training? Camp
Speaker 2: then it's about maintaining not losing, much you, know having
Speaker 2: to excel at training, camp not get. Injured and then
Speaker 2: from then on it's it's week to. Week what's the?
Speaker 2: Mission every? Week and now when the mission is kind of, like,
Speaker 2: yo WHAT'S i don't have to wake up the next
Speaker 2: day and go in the team.
Speaker 1: Day it's the beautiful, part right, Right then it's LIKE
Speaker 1: i want to settles.
Speaker 2: In it's like, yeah The then the next season happens
Speaker 2: and you're starting to like watch and you're, like, yo
Speaker 2: what what AM i trying to figure?
Speaker 1: Out? Yeah, yeah so that all of that played a
Speaker 1: part into. It SO, i, UH i went to different.
Speaker 1: AVENUES i relied on my. EDUCATION i got into. ACTING
Speaker 1: i started to study. Acting you're On, broadway, Right, YEAH
Speaker 1: i went On. Broadway BUT i, STARTED i did work.
Speaker 1: HERE i was Doing shakespeare here in, Town Julius Caesar,
Speaker 1: othello did a few dramatic, plays a streetcar Named, desire Whipping,
Speaker 1: man all of that with a rep and that enabled
Speaker 1: me to really find my artistic, voice find my true
Speaker 1: authentic voice as in, person as a, man learning how to,
Speaker 1: write learning how to express. Myself but it was cathartic
Speaker 1: for me to release all of. That it was, Healing
Speaker 1: it was. Therapeutic it's not, therapy but it's therapeutic for
Speaker 1: me to go through all of that and to express
Speaker 1: it and to really identify with what just, happened and
Speaker 1: to make sense out of it and use it for
Speaker 1: my next. Purpose use it in my, speeches use it
Speaker 1: in my, business use it in a way to, communicate
Speaker 1: and on so many different levels through, film through. Theater
Speaker 1: And i've been blessed to the point WHERE i did
Speaker 1: perform On broadway in twenty. Sixteen that's, awesome you. Know
Speaker 1: And i'm doing things on the front of the camera
Speaker 1: as an, actor was in Cis la And The ballers
Speaker 1: and all of, this and it just leads itself to
Speaker 1: new opportunities of self expression and the same adrilla That
Speaker 1: i've gotten on the. FIELD i get in theater because it's,
Speaker 1: live it's, visceral it's it's a, team it's it's telling
Speaker 1: a story and imaginary. Circumstances you have to rely on
Speaker 1: the other actors to help you and you help. Them
Speaker 1: so it's it's all of that and to do that
Speaker 1: night after night on A broadway. Stage And i've done
Speaker 1: The chicago In New, york In chicago And, toronto all
Speaker 1: over the country pretty, MUCH lau and that was just
Speaker 1: an awesome experiences that could hold like being in the
Speaker 1: locker room. Again, yeah you, know from that, perspective and
Speaker 1: it was a wonderful. Experience it continues to grow and
Speaker 1: develop in my life in so many different. Aspects, now
Speaker 1: it's that experience of being on stage and being. Vulnerable,
Speaker 1: yeah you, know how'd you find? Acting acting found? Me,
Speaker 1: ACTUALLY i wanted to be able to be a better.
Speaker 1: COMMUNICATOR i wanted. To i'm LIKE i get. Old WHEN
Speaker 1: i get into, SOMETHING i study, IT i do cross
Speaker 1: training with, IT i do all types of stuff to
Speaker 1: do best at. It and WHEN i got into, commentating
Speaker 1: that's WHAT i wanted to. DO i wanted to be a, more,
Speaker 1: better communicator and storyteller and just have different tools to rely.
Speaker 1: On SO i, said let me get into, acting and
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i was still getting parts and opportunities to do.
Speaker 1: That but it wasn't UNTIL i jumped on stage THAT
Speaker 1: i really felt the bug for, like, ooh this is.
Speaker 1: DIFFERENT i mean literally going on stage for the first
Speaker 1: time is like stripping, down you, know naked and then
Speaker 1: walking out. There, YEAH i mean. Nervous were you before
Speaker 1: the first time you go out on. Stage my first
Speaker 1: time on stage was extremely. Nervous i'm pacing back and
Speaker 1: forth and you can't, react LIKE i can't make somebody miss,
Speaker 1: there run somebody. Over you got to stick to the. Script,
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i completely went. BLANK i saw the bright,
Speaker 1: lights felt the, heat got stage, fright and it was all.
Speaker 1: Over started making up shit on the spot and got through.
Speaker 1: It BUT i, said you know, what that was such
Speaker 1: a rush for, me AND i was not going to
Speaker 1: be defined or defeated by. That i'm going to go perfect.
Speaker 1: It and that's WHAT i. Did you, know that's.
Speaker 2: Awesome do you feel like you took the disciplines and
Speaker 2: the everything you learned From ball and you're, like, Yeah
Speaker 2: i'm just going to maneuver it and put it in
Speaker 2: a different verbiage and the same type of, practices and
Speaker 2: without a, doubt energy and effort into this the.
Speaker 1: Same work ethic THAT I i applied to my craft in,
Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i put it into, acting the same exact. THING
Speaker 1: i took voice, lessons, yeah you, know singing lessons to
Speaker 1: help my speaking. Voice but my, coach my acting, Coach
Speaker 1: Anna Maria, franzella who's no longer with, us said you can,
Speaker 1: sing And i'm, like well, Please just.
Speaker 2: They KNOW i stayed in the, car in the, shower
Speaker 2: BUT i don't know about loud loud on.
Speaker 1: Stage and the great thing is is that ALWAYS i
Speaker 1: could play the role Of Billy. Flynn and those are
Speaker 1: some of the songs that we practiced. With and when
Speaker 1: the opportunity presented itself from me to, AUDITION i was
Speaker 1: ready for. That And i'll never forget it was in
Speaker 1: two thousand and, fifteen fourteen it was that was, Fifteen,
Speaker 1: no it was, fourteen excuse, me twenty, fourteen going Is
Speaker 1: November WHEN i was asked to audition AND i, said,
Speaker 1: well they asked IF i could. SING i was, like, hell,
Speaker 1: YEAH i can. SING i was thinking some voice. Lessons,
Speaker 1: yeah And i'm, like oh, SHIT i gotta figure this.
Speaker 1: OUT i never sing out loud or way away from
Speaker 1: the track, before but we want to figure it. Out
Speaker 1: it's going to be a great story one way or the.
Speaker 1: Other SO i get my, fedora get a nice beautiful
Speaker 1: black suit with the damn the tie and the. Stripes
Speaker 1: everything out, Said i'm going to go in As Billy.
Speaker 1: Flynn go up To New york And Bashedor theater on
Speaker 1: thirty ninth And, broadway AND i walk in the bows
Speaker 1: of the theater and Immediately i'm intimidated Because i'm thinking to,
Speaker 1: myself some great actors have performed on the. Stage, Okay
Speaker 1: i've been played with some great, venues you, Know, Baltimore,
Speaker 1: oakland The Big, house all of. Them but this, one
Speaker 1: this little, theater was intimidating to. Me SO i go
Speaker 1: on on the. Stage some of the dancers are in,
Speaker 1: there some of the other actors are just getting ready
Speaker 1: for the nice, performance And i'm just doing an. Audition
Speaker 1: the piano player does very professional warms, up he's doing
Speaker 1: the scales and And i'm just sitting there, like, okay
Speaker 1: when are we gonna? Start he, Says, okay Mister george's
Speaker 1: gonna start from the. Top ALL i care about is
Speaker 1: love with? Key are you? In AND i was, like
Speaker 1: THAT'S i have what? Key the key, life what type of,
Speaker 1: Key let's figure it. OUT i don't. Know so we
Speaker 1: go through the, scales find my. Key then we go
Speaker 1: and do all the care about his, love cracking notes.
Speaker 1: Everywhere But i'm going all out and having a, ball
Speaker 1: having a. BLAST i go through all my sides with
Speaker 1: the acting coach And i'm doing it And i'm just having.
Speaker 1: Fun it's Being Billy flynn losing. Myself and the theater
Speaker 1: is empty and it's dark lit and his the lights
Speaker 1: are up. There and THEN i go about to go
Speaker 1: through this for about thirty minutes and Then i'm here
Speaker 1: this clapping AND i hear. This oh my, god that was.
Speaker 1: Amazing it Was Barry, wisely the lead producer for the.
Speaker 1: Show he, says let's do. It let's do. It, yeah
Speaker 1: let's do. It just come this doing On. Broadway my
Speaker 1: people will get in touch with your. People And i'm,
Speaker 1: like oh my. GOD i was. Hyped but he, said
Speaker 1: my people will be in touch with your. People his
Speaker 1: people did not get in touch with my. People some
Speaker 1: a year, LATER i, THOUGHT i have to washing maybe
Speaker 1: we made. It, yeah, yeah it had heard. Anything hey
Speaker 1: they called no not. YET i think it's you know,
Speaker 1: Right So i'm thinking he, said all, right he's wanted
Speaker 1: to get me to hell out the. Theater so, okay
Speaker 1: this guy was. Terrible to say something nice and get
Speaker 1: him out of. Here BUT i did it man in twenty,
Speaker 1: sixteen and been doing their shows up UNTIL covid last,
Speaker 1: year and it's been a wonderful. Experience, bro that's. Awesome, yeah,
Speaker 1: man that's.
Speaker 2: Awesome and you also say you you have a financial.
Speaker 1: Business yes about. That. Yeah during the TIME i was
Speaker 1: getting ready For, BROADWAY i was gonna, say because you
Speaker 1: open this up a little bit, back didn't. You, yeah it.
Speaker 1: Was it was right around the same. Time SO i
Speaker 1: do my, audition and of, course like anything, ELSE i
Speaker 1: went and got my master's in. BUSINESS i Got, yeah
Speaker 1: that's awesome, Too. Northwestern, yeah that was a wonderful. Experience
Speaker 1: two thousand and. Nine SO i was looking for the
Speaker 1: bones of a business THAT i could. Grow something was
Speaker 1: passionate about recurring, revenue had the potential to really for
Speaker 1: growth that can take it to. SCALE i had started
Speaker 1: my own landscape architecture firm back, then and that's why
Speaker 1: it inspired me to go to learn more about. Business
Speaker 1: and to say the, least that wasn't where my passion.
Speaker 1: Was it was more. Entrepreneurial so what wasn't where your
Speaker 1: passion was in terms of landscape. Architecture that was my
Speaker 1: original that was my original. Business and then you realise
Speaker 1: you're kind of just falling in love with the whole, creation, visuation,
Speaker 1: vision building an actual. BUSINESS i had visions of building
Speaker 1: a billion, dollar big, Company that's what my goal is
Speaker 1: this but it just Wasn't it just wasn't. There i'll
Speaker 1: leave it. There SO i decided THAT i needed to
Speaker 1: find something different THAT i was passionate about THAT i,
Speaker 1: knew and finances was something that kind of resonated with
Speaker 1: me in terms of helping young men like other, athletes
Speaker 1: avoid the pitfalls That i've seen others fall into and
Speaker 1: What i've already been through from bad business dealings to financial,
Speaker 1: advisors to the agents and so, forth teach the curriculum
Speaker 1: WHICH i did At Ohio, state and you, know guide
Speaker 1: their financial future while building my assets under. Management so
Speaker 1: WHILE i was studying for The rule Of Billy, FLYNN
Speaker 1: i was studying to get My series seven at the same.
Speaker 1: Time AND i remember having the. CHOICE i was, like.
Speaker 1: DAMN i was, conflicted, like, damn how AM i going
Speaker 1: to get ready for to go On broadway to perform
Speaker 1: on The broadway stage while Also i'm getting in the
Speaker 1: middle of getting My serious Seven and GRANTED i already
Speaker 1: invested my time into getting my sixty, six sixty five
Speaker 1: all that, Stuff AND i, SAID i have to make
Speaker 1: a decision on WHAT i want to do UNTIL i
Speaker 1: thought to, MYSELF i, said, well, shit let me do.
Speaker 1: Both and that's exactly WHAT i. DID i would study
Speaker 1: my for My serious seven in the, morning take. Tests,
Speaker 1: AFTERNOON i would go and study with my acting, coach
Speaker 1: songs and, script come right back that, night do another
Speaker 1: test or, two go to bit and do that for
Speaker 1: four months. Straight BECAUSE i was determined to turn my
Speaker 1: platform into, education, entrepreneurship and, entertainment AND i can do
Speaker 1: all of them, simultaneous, simultaneously and that's what it. Is
Speaker 1: So i've developed my wealth management business To Edward George
Speaker 1: Wealth Management. GROUP i have two other. PARTNERS i focus
Speaker 1: on high network individuals a few. Athletes foundations work with
Speaker 1: specialty groups in terms of maintaining and preserving their wealth
Speaker 1: through different platforms independent. Firm And i'm also again teaching
Speaker 1: young athletes that are aspiring to be in our position one.
Speaker 1: Day the case studies on what the lookout for in
Speaker 1: terms of bad business dealings and bad bad advisors and
Speaker 1: how to vet out a financial. Advisor how much you
Speaker 1: pay your financial, advisor if you if you pay him?
Speaker 1: Exactly and how.
Speaker 2: This says in the, Beginning, yeah, right you know What i'm,
Speaker 2: saying hidden cost, fees all that stuff's actually.
Speaker 1: So what is how do you how do you? Pay
Speaker 1: how he gets paid through? Commission he gets paid there's
Speaker 1: a rap, Fee but what's that rap? Fee and? All
Speaker 1: what does he have you? In where's your four one k?
Speaker 1: Going do you have? Insurance? Oh how can you use your?
Speaker 1: Insurance you know What i'm, saying you can Use there
Speaker 1: are certain benefits you can use for your insurance as a,
Speaker 1: BANK i mean just little things that can help you put,
Speaker 1: yourself put the eating a seat of power versus lending
Speaker 1: their power over to somebody that says they have their
Speaker 1: best interest in. Mind and the only thing that you
Speaker 1: have that you can rely on is the trust. Factor
Speaker 1: he's going to do the right thing and how it's.
Speaker 1: Structure so all of those, things and.
Speaker 2: Those dudes when you're sitting across room at the table
Speaker 2: when you were a young cat and they got the
Speaker 2: whole script to kind of, script you, know the background
Speaker 2: they went to where you're just, like, oh this makes
Speaker 2: sense for me as an. Athlete and then next, thing you,
Speaker 2: know like guys are vocal that, Hey i'm always walking, like,
Speaker 2: hey it's a fact that seventy to eighty percent of
Speaker 2: guys go bankrupt within five years of playing in THE.
Speaker 1: Nfl from that thirty for, Thirty hey all of, Us hey,
Speaker 1: boys all of us in.
Speaker 2: Here i'll be in the locker. Room, hey all of
Speaker 2: us in here ain't making it after five? Years, Right
Speaker 2: and you, know because you see guys.
Speaker 1: Come in with new, chains you do all, this do all.
Speaker 1: That but you know that's that's awesome that you. STARTED
Speaker 1: i had no. Idea, yeah do you are you?
Speaker 2: Pretty are you pretty engaged with like does THE pa
Speaker 2: reach out to?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Like are you engaged with the? Player were able to educate? Kids? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well i've been. TEACHING i was teaching At Ohio state
Speaker 1: for the last five years the business and professional, sports
Speaker 1: AND i brought in somebody from that makes it the
Speaker 1: entire business front, OFFICE gm, agent Financial, ADVISOR, nflpa someone
Speaker 1: from the league, offices and they talk about their, Functions
Speaker 1: you talk about our job, descriptions what they, do how
Speaker 1: they look at, athletes how they look at the. Sports
Speaker 1: so you can get a well rounded view of how
Speaker 1: we are a commodity and not necessarily a. Person and
Speaker 1: then you begin to see how, easy if you do things,
Speaker 1: right how easy it is to go financially. Broke.
Speaker 2: Right you know what you had to quote that resonated with.
Speaker 2: ME i heard you on a. Podcast it was you
Speaker 2: helped me. Out it's like something about gross and. Net
Speaker 2: you live by the grocer'll die by the. NET i
Speaker 2: think that's where lived by the, Gross you'll die by the.
Speaker 1: Net. Yeah so if you think that what we see
Speaker 1: on television in terms of free agents signing one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollar, deal, yeah the ticker that come, across is
Speaker 1: it really one hundred? Million, no, exactly we do that,
Speaker 1: Right so it's, pulling you, know the smoking mirrors behind
Speaker 1: and it's a significant amount of. Money but understanding the tax,
Speaker 1: bracker you're going Into Uncle sam's going to get his, cut,
Speaker 1: Right your agent gets his and it's still a good.
Speaker 1: Nut but is it a good is that generational? Wealth
Speaker 1: it's a good start to generational wealth if it's handled.
Speaker 1: Appropriately the guy that cut the, check that's generational. Wealth
Speaker 1: you know What i'm. Saying so there's a. Difference SO
Speaker 1: i wanted. PEOPLE i wanted others outside the, business or
Speaker 1: even kids that are getting into the business to realize
Speaker 1: That i'm just starting with. This the end goal is not.
Speaker 1: Now now is not the time to buy A lamborghini
Speaker 1: and five, houses you know across the country from my
Speaker 1: mom and, dad thinking THAT i have one hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars now you. Don't you probably got twenty five of.
Speaker 1: That but guess what if you keep spending ten it
Speaker 1: chunks into that and you realize that your next egg
Speaker 1: that you have is down next to. Nothing when you,
Speaker 1: retire you're better, off you, know starting, small rent the
Speaker 1: first couple of, years establish your INVESTOR, dna get the
Speaker 1: right advisors around. You you don't have to hit for home,
Speaker 1: runs you, know manufacture runs base hits every. Day find
Speaker 1: something that's going to bring, you say a safety. Net
Speaker 1: you want to have something that's going to preserve your
Speaker 1: wealth and something that's going to generate your wealth those three,
Speaker 1: buckets and how are you going to do? That you
Speaker 1: know What i'm, saying that's the. Philosophy so don't feel
Speaker 1: like you have to go be the lead investor for
Speaker 1: a real estate project and you're the bank. Guy they're
Speaker 1: been depending on you to the fund their. Dream that's
Speaker 1: where you go. Wrong i've seen, it you, know time
Speaker 1: and time again with with athletes THAT i played, with played.
Speaker 1: Against how we get sucked into that because we just don't.
Speaker 1: Know you don't. Know guys just don't.
Speaker 2: Know and you you use the example of a hundred,
Speaker 2: million one hundred million dollar guy like those guys that's
Speaker 2: the one percent of the one percent in THE. Nfl
Speaker 2: majority of guys are you, know journeyman like, myself or
Speaker 2: they're making you, know those smaller contracts throughout their.
Speaker 1: Career but you still have those same those those same.
Speaker 2: Distractions off of the field because they think you're the you,
Speaker 2: know everybody's, saying, hey once you're in THE, nfl you',
Speaker 2: hey once you get the shield on, you there's a
Speaker 2: target on. You so it doesn't matter if you're making
Speaker 2: the hundred million or you're making the minimum like everyone thinks, like,
Speaker 2: oh you made.
Speaker 1: It you're, rich you're, that and it's just it's not the.
Speaker 2: Case and how do you go about when guys want
Speaker 2: to sit you down or pick your brain or you
Speaker 2: go and. Speak how do you speak to those guys
Speaker 2: in a way that like a fundamental change can happen
Speaker 2: or a shift can happen for.
Speaker 1: Somebody, WELL i just try to be authentic and tell
Speaker 1: them the, truth be as transparent AS i can, be
Speaker 1: based off my, experience my first what's your worst.
Speaker 2: Experience that you can teach? Somebody you're like, this this
Speaker 2: is what happened with me.
Speaker 1: WHEN i first got into THE. Nfl WHEN i first
Speaker 1: signed on the dotted line to get my, check it
Speaker 1: was my signing, bonus and my agent pulls me, aside
Speaker 1: tells me that the guy THAT i chose my financial,
Speaker 1: advisor is hearing bad things about him AND i shouldn't
Speaker 1: put my money with. Them long story, SHORT i tell
Speaker 1: my mom to take the money and go To philadelphia
Speaker 1: putting in the. Bank let's let's see what. Happens two days,
Speaker 1: LATER i get the phone call from THE fbi saying
Speaker 1: or from the bank saying that they this gentleman tried
Speaker 1: to pull money out of the. Account well no money was,
Speaker 1: there thank, god because he was caught going To South
Speaker 1: america with for investment and running A ponzi. Scheme no,
Speaker 1: shit no, shit first time, out so immediately out the.
Speaker 1: Gate this guy was a smooth, talker had everybody on his,
Speaker 1: list you, know from, entertainers different. Athletes it was a,
Speaker 1: boutique set up a. SHOP i remember him trying to
Speaker 1: get me to sign a power attorney so he could
Speaker 1: legally move the. Money you see What i'm. Saying so
Speaker 1: he got me a, loan BUT i never signed. It
Speaker 1: so those are the things THAT i just, recall and
Speaker 1: is a bunch of. Others they come in different shape,
Speaker 1: sizes The agos of the WORLD i call, them you,
Speaker 1: know in terms Of, shakespeare The. Agos they appear to
Speaker 1: be your, friend but they have a different aultorious motive behind.
Speaker 1: You you, know incentives drive. Behavior it always. Does so
Speaker 1: if somebody is around you, questioned why are they around?
Speaker 1: You why are they catering to? You what is their ulterior?
Speaker 1: Motive and if you're leaning on that person for information
Speaker 1: or to be the business, guy that's not a wise.
Speaker 1: Choice you really need to understand the language how contracts
Speaker 1: are set, up how LLCs are set up all of
Speaker 1: this stuff so you're not burnt in the end of
Speaker 1: holding the, bag so to. Speak so that's that's.
Speaker 2: It He any young cats listening that have aspirations to
Speaker 2: go to the league that might be in college, Listening
Speaker 2: look up A george's financial.
Speaker 1: Firm, yeah The Edward George Wealth Management. Group, yeah ed
Speaker 1: what is? It Edward? George, Well Edward. George, okay that's
Speaker 1: your first, Name. Edward, YES i love. It what's the ultimate?
Speaker 2: Goal when you say this is kind of a this
Speaker 2: is kind of something to help propel me to the ultimate.
Speaker 1: Goal what is an ultimate goal of yours that you
Speaker 1: have in? Mind do you want to own a team one? Day,
Speaker 1: no that's that's just you've talked about a couple of
Speaker 1: checks the, TIMES i, mean my my couple of. Hints
Speaker 1: you know what my goal is to create and build wealthy,
Speaker 1: individuals and not just in terms of dollar, value but
Speaker 1: in terms of, character in terms of. Principles that's that's
Speaker 1: what my calling is at this point in, time is
Speaker 1: to develop young people or people to become, entrepreneurs but
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs with a purpose and and and to find their.
Speaker 1: Calling you, know in this. Life that's that's what's driving me.
Speaker 1: Now and that's done through uh my entrepreneurship aspirations in
Speaker 1: wealth management and through insurance platforms, too to help others
Speaker 1: again achieve entrepreneurship to help their lives and the lives
Speaker 1: of others generation generational.
Speaker 2: Study it sounds like some mentorship exactly, exactly not just you,
Speaker 2: know you make, money they make money money there there
Speaker 2: is exactly working one on one with the. Individual understand that
Speaker 2: whoever's under, you they're part of like this this.
Speaker 1: Fraternity, exactly, yeah. Exactly so that's that's What i'm, creating
Speaker 1: and buy product of that will lead to to, wealth
Speaker 1: right and and but that's not the end. Goal but
Speaker 1: If i'm in a position to be to be an
Speaker 1: owner one, day damn. Right everything happens for a, reason that's.
Speaker 1: Right SO i finished our team left left with that
Speaker 1: one yard. Short i'm gonna hold up A Lombardi trophy one.
Speaker 1: DAY i am going to hold one. Up, hey you're hearing.
Speaker 1: It you know What i'm. Saying he's going to do. Something, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah linebacker, Coach, hey there we. Go, SEE i don't,
Speaker 1: KNOW i kind of want.
Speaker 2: To you got me motivated now to you're gonna be
Speaker 2: right me checks If i'm the linebacker, COACH.
Speaker 1: I was gonna, SAY i gonna, say, like, Nah i'm
Speaker 1: going to Be i'm gonna be the. President i'm gonna,
Speaker 1: No i'm gonna do. This so that's that's what my goals.
Speaker 1: Are man.
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Speaker 2: Man let's talk a Little. Titans how are you feeling
Speaker 2: about the boys this?
Speaker 1: Year it's hard to figure out about the, boys because,
Speaker 1: damn is it going to be a? SEASON i think.
Speaker 1: So don't you think there's gonna be? One don't you
Speaker 1: think it's at least that is going to. START i
Speaker 1: hope it's. SUSTAINABLE i think there's done a nice job
Speaker 1: of keeping everything at. Bay the protocols are. Tight no
Speaker 1: one can come into the. FACILITY i, mean we hadn't
Speaker 1: heard any cases of guys catching. Anything that's been. Great
Speaker 1: now it's a question of when they begin to, travel
Speaker 1: how that's going to. Operate right right once they said
Speaker 1: on a, plane go to another. Hotel so assuming let's
Speaker 1: just assume the. Best, okay we're optimistic. Here they. LIKE
Speaker 1: i like the makeup of the. TEAM i like the.
Speaker 1: CHEMISTRY i like the fact that they play for each.
Speaker 1: Other there's genuine love. There they have an. Identity, DEFENSIVELY
Speaker 1: i want to see What Vic beasley Is Vic, beasley, right,
Speaker 1: YES i want to see what he brings to the
Speaker 1: table from the. PAST i think they need a premiere past,
Speaker 1: rusher AND i thought that going into last season they
Speaker 1: needed somebody that can disrupt the quarterback with just getting
Speaker 1: a four man. Rush of, Course Derrick henry Is Dereck.
Speaker 1: HENRY i like the new kid From Appalachian date the running.
Speaker 1: Back oh, Yeah. Evans he's going to be a utility
Speaker 1: guy that they can rely on the return game short
Speaker 1: and also as a third down guy In, TANDYHILL i.
Speaker 1: Am i'm curious to see if he can now take over.
Speaker 1: Games you, know it's one thing to manage your game
Speaker 1: and handle twenty two and let's your line lean on the. Team,
Speaker 1: now when they line. Up, okay nine in the box
Speaker 1: and we've seen it last year nine in the. Box
Speaker 1: we're committed now to Stopping derek and he cannot beat.
Speaker 1: Us how Is Tandy hill going to do? It you, know?
Speaker 1: Consistently AND i think he can do. It he's put
Speaker 1: the ball. There so saying all of, that they have
Speaker 1: everything they need, Offensively john New smith is going to
Speaker 1: be a. SUPERSTAR i love the. RECEIVERS Aj brown is
Speaker 1: going to be a. Superstar so they have levels to
Speaker 1: their offense that they're multi dimensional and it's going to
Speaker 1: be tough to compete with. That And Mike vrabel is
Speaker 1: a phenomenal how what was the year of separation? There
Speaker 1: this one year amate he was an? Asshole he is an,
Speaker 1: asshole but an asshole you love and when you when
Speaker 1: he's on your, squad that's the asshole that you want
Speaker 1: because he's going to knock you in the mouth and
Speaker 1: talk about you and and and do everything he. Needs
Speaker 1: he's going to tell you just exactly how he, feels you, Know.
Speaker 1: Mike mike was a damn freshman calling out. Upperclassmen you're
Speaker 1: not you're not you're not touching the, line you, know
Speaker 1: sprints or you're going. HALFWAY i, mean he'll call your ass.
Speaker 1: Out and that's that's how he operates who he is?
Speaker 2: Now is that, too because he's the same. Person he's
Speaker 2: still trying to hit somebody in the. Mouth as a,
Speaker 2: coach he, loves.
Speaker 1: He loves the, contact he loves, teaching he loves, mentoring
Speaker 1: he loves to create a winning. Product so you throw
Speaker 1: all that into the. Mix and What Amy adams is
Speaker 1: doing And John, robinson what they're doing this they're on
Speaker 1: the they're on the road to some great some great.
Speaker 1: THINGS i think so.
Speaker 2: Too what's been what's been your favorite off season? Move
Speaker 2: obviously they've brought a lot of pieces back the, draft.
Speaker 1: Free, agency their own. Guys which one's been your favorite? Move,
Speaker 1: well it's tough to say my favorite right now because
Speaker 1: we're gonna need a, Favorite we're gonna need a preseason. Favorite,
Speaker 1: well here's the thing, IS i haven't seen him, yet
Speaker 1: AND i THINK i think the draft choice out Of
Speaker 1: Georgia Wilson Isaiah.
Speaker 2: Wilson oh, yeah ye, hey he's a big motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Dude oh he's a. Problem, yes he's a problem in
Speaker 1: the trenches and you're throwing, Now derek's got some help
Speaker 1: there another another mauler in between the. Tackles oh my,
Speaker 1: god it's going to be nasty in. There.
Speaker 2: Man, HEY i was surprised you said. That IF i
Speaker 2: figured you would have said the hen are you getting?
Speaker 1: This? Uh that's what.
Speaker 2: Happened, Yeah but did you know that the whole, time
Speaker 2: even when it was getting it's still gonna.
Speaker 1: Happen maybe you might have. Knew you might have known per. Source,
Speaker 1: no you never known this. Business but they would have
Speaker 1: been foolish not to do. It and you, know they
Speaker 1: found the win. Win they were going to figure it.
Speaker 1: Out you, know The titans like to operate right close
Speaker 1: to the. Edge, yeah put time and pressure on the,
Speaker 1: athlete you know WHAT i. Mean they don't want To
Speaker 1: they want to get the most out of. It they
Speaker 1: want to arder than, negotiation the art, negotiation and they
Speaker 1: want an organizational friendly. Deal and that's you. KNOW i
Speaker 1: think they found the win win. There SO i figured
Speaker 1: that they had to Get derek signed and were going
Speaker 1: to get him. Signed and it was a four year. Deal,
Speaker 1: yes it turns out probably could be a three year
Speaker 1: somewhere around there where he's. AT i want to say
Speaker 1: the first two are pretty, guaranteed and that third year
Speaker 1: is kind of. Iffy the funny money comes Into, Yeah
Speaker 1: i'm so guarantees about nineteen eight twenty one million or
Speaker 1: something like. That so, YEAH i think it's a win. Win.
Speaker 2: Yeah who's who would you say is your favorite player
Speaker 2: on The? Titans, WOW i want to Say mine is
Speaker 2: turning into A. J. Brown that's what mine turned. Into
Speaker 2: Delaney walker WHEN i was on the. TEAM i Loved.
Speaker 2: DELANEY i love being Around. Delaney he was kind of
Speaker 2: just my. FAVORITE i just always, like, yeah, right well my.
Speaker 2: FAVORITE i think mine is becoming A. J. Brown we've
Speaker 2: had him on the. Pod, Yeah i've seen him a
Speaker 2: couple other times FaceTime With, taylor and he's JUST i
Speaker 2: think he's. Hilarious but he's just got that that YOUNG
Speaker 2: i don't know that it takes no shit. Attitude and he's. Confident,
Speaker 2: yeah he's insanely. Confident and he's a. Worker he was
Speaker 2: like that AS i, mean coming in, RIGHT i mean he.
Speaker 2: Was he was pissed off about something he did in
Speaker 2: practice was real.
Speaker 1: Small i'm, like, duh it's not even got. Time, yeah
Speaker 1: but that said he was he. Was he. Was he
Speaker 1: was a. Man and the fact that he called your, Boy.
Speaker 1: TAYLOR i know they were talking about it on him
Speaker 1: again a, Rookie that's What i'm, saying calling out not
Speaker 1: just the big dog the, line the, richest the highest
Speaker 1: paid player on The, titans right. Yo and still talking
Speaker 1: about it when he's on the pod, like, yeah you
Speaker 1: know you. Was he was on some. Ship, HEY i love.
Speaker 1: IT i Love the only THING.
Speaker 2: I didn't like caring about him is that he was
Speaker 2: one of those rookies who he was too prideful to
Speaker 2: do rookie.
Speaker 1: Stuff, see he had the kind of that asshole. Mentality it's,
Speaker 1: like hey, man it's this part of the. Deal how
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? Stuff you got to pay your?
Speaker 1: Dues you got to pay your. Dues and and the
Speaker 1: fact that that he had success last, year LIKE i,
Speaker 1: know kind of defeats it a little, bit but you,
Speaker 1: know he'll beat that. Veteran he is that. Veteran now
Speaker 1: it's quickly becoming a vet that that he, Wished, like you,
Speaker 1: know you got to follow a protocol and that young
Speaker 1: hot rookie is gonna come in there and and show.
Speaker 1: Him BUT i like A. J. BROWN i think he's
Speaker 1: got tremendous. UPSIDE i like him as a. Person BUT
Speaker 1: i do LIKE i Like Johnny smith, THOUGH i think
Speaker 1: he has a chance to be really.
Speaker 2: Good, really, yeah you don't think, So, NO i think
Speaker 2: some Big Johnny smith hearing somebody else say, that call
Speaker 2: the superstar and give him respect like. That it's kind
Speaker 2: of a new thing THAT i feel like is going
Speaker 2: to come in the. Future but why do you think?
Speaker 1: So WHEN i saw what it actually happens dot THE
Speaker 1: i take a tall sweep down the right sideline for
Speaker 1: sylbral seventy something, Yards i'm, like, What let go throw
Speaker 1: him back, there let him get let him get some
Speaker 1: tokees With, derek let him split. That. Man the dudes got. Skills, Man,
Speaker 1: yeah if we're a tight, END i mean that is, remarkable,
Speaker 1: athletic fast, hands, attitude all of he's got the. BUILD i,
Speaker 1: MEAN i, LIKE i, LIKE i like him moving. FORWARD
Speaker 1: i really like his. STYLE i like what he brings
Speaker 1: to the. Offense he makes them multi. Dimensional now in
Speaker 1: the middle of the, field, right because if you control
Speaker 1: the middle of the, field it opens up. Everything with
Speaker 1: a tight end that can stretch, it that can do it,
Speaker 1: all it opens up the outside certainly is going to
Speaker 1: present problems for a. Defense, down, Like, okay we really
Speaker 1: can't stack the box like this because we've got a
Speaker 1: tight end that can go vertical on. You we got
Speaker 1: a receiver that's ridiculous and easy. Breast so they got some,
Speaker 1: options they've got some, weapons and they have some studs.
Speaker 2: Man and you, know another another thing that will play
Speaker 2: in their favor is knowing That Arthur smith is back
Speaker 2: and they kind of have the same. Offense, yep you,
Speaker 2: Know rave obviously still, there but they get to be
Speaker 2: in the system again after going to AN afc. CHAMPIONSHIP
Speaker 2: i think like that's gonna benefit then because people with
Speaker 2: new head, coaches younger, teams stuff like. That, like especially
Speaker 2: in times like, this you just don't know how the
Speaker 2: year is gonna play. OUT i think they're they can
Speaker 2: come and not miss a beat as much as any
Speaker 2: team out, there and the fact.
Speaker 1: And nationally everybody of Course Kansas, city but when you're
Speaker 1: talking about The, south it's got to Be. Tennessee but
Speaker 1: they're still talking about The colts and, This and Then i'm,
Speaker 1: like all, Right, houston, Yeah houston. TOO i, mean they
Speaker 1: they they they. Are they're an interesting. GROUP i just
Speaker 1: don't THINK i don't think they have the. DISCIPLINE i
Speaker 1: don't THINK i think they like the. Discipline you, know
Speaker 1: we talk about we look at. Teams you start to
Speaker 1: talent is always every team in the league is, talented
Speaker 1: but you start looking at the makeup of a, team
Speaker 1: the character of the, team the little things that will
Speaker 1: separate you from being just good. Average and the greatest
Speaker 1: teams are the ones that can self discipline in their locker,
Speaker 1: rooms who their leaders. Are AND i don't know If
Speaker 1: houston has. THAT i Know Deshaun watsons a grown, man
Speaker 1: but outside of, him who else is? There you, KNOW
Speaker 1: i KNOW Jj, watt but is IT i don't know
Speaker 1: about their locker. ROOM i thinking they're that team that's
Speaker 1: gonna take over The south and be there.
Speaker 2: Consistently, yeah that makes. Sense, hey your boy speaking of
Speaker 2: generational and writing. Checks And Patrick mahomes now he got
Speaker 2: that big. Deal now he's a little part owner and The.
Speaker 1: Royal i'll tell you, what, man that's a movie you
Speaker 1: like to see as an. Athlete, Yeah i'm super happy for, him.
Speaker 1: MAN i saw him at At. TAHA i was playing
Speaker 1: in the golf tournament, There American Century, championship And i'm warming,
Speaker 1: up you, Know i'm out there two hours. Beforehand i'm
Speaker 1: just trying to get. Myself, No i'm at the ars.
Speaker 1: Beforehand that's WHY i was out. There So Patrick mahomes comes.
Speaker 1: Up it's, really you, know just laid back and just
Speaker 1: kind of open ben and he's just like all over
Speaker 1: the place and just, like, hey hey we no free
Speaker 1: no Free, willie you know. Whatever and he goes up
Speaker 1: And i'm like this first that, says your first time.
Speaker 1: Playing so he has first time playing, here but you, know,
Speaker 1: man AM i having a? Ball blah blah, blah puts
Speaker 1: the pen and golf. On he's on his driver, pow
Speaker 1: it's one and kind of like a stinger or. Whatever i'm,
Speaker 1: like this dude's gonna he's stink up the. Spot he's
Speaker 1: like he can't. Play he gets on the, course, man
Speaker 1: and he is in the middle OF i, mean he's
Speaker 1: in the. Mix eagle, Here birdie, there par. Here i'm,
Speaker 1: like oh my, god she's loving. LIFE i, said, man
Speaker 1: that's a. Guy he's a signed half a, bee feeling
Speaker 1: good about. Life i'm, like can care less where the ball?
Speaker 1: Goes less, said that's a guy with no stress right.
Speaker 1: Now he's such a good he's such a great. Player,
Speaker 1: man such an exceptional, player, dude he.
Speaker 2: Is, man he just seems like he has fun, too
Speaker 2: and just competes his ass off when you're out.
Speaker 1: There he does a stroke right, there look at, that
Speaker 1: look a look at he look at. It look at.
Speaker 1: That he didn't warm. Up he only hit a couple
Speaker 1: of balls. Off the team didn't warm them. Up that's
Speaker 1: five hundred Is, yeah he was like. That, MAN i get. It.
Speaker 1: Man the dude is. Phenomenal dude is. Phenomenal. Unbelievable, Yeah
Speaker 1: like when When houston went up on him like what
Speaker 1: was it three scores or, whatever and you just knew, that,
Speaker 1: hey they're not out of it because once he does
Speaker 1: starts doing that flexing after a, touchdown you're just, like oh, ship,
Speaker 1: Hey mahomes is about to turn it. Up and they did,
Speaker 1: it not once but the entire, playoffs, Right that's what
Speaker 1: makes them. Deadly when you have a team that can
Speaker 1: come back from adversity like that and fight through. It
Speaker 1: and they Beat houston by what by twenty? One, Right,
Speaker 1: yeah they laid it on. Him houston did not eat
Speaker 1: him by twenty, one down by twenty four and beat
Speaker 1: him by twenty. One oh my, god that that was
Speaker 1: remarkable to. Me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah and then you got the leadership of him
Speaker 2: and Then Honey badger on the other, Side like you
Speaker 2: allude to leadership and things like, that like you, know
Speaker 2: obviously they got it on both, sides. Right also your
Speaker 2: relationship With. DEREK i know a lot of people talk
Speaker 2: about your your guys', relationship your, friendship your, mentorship how
Speaker 2: you mentor, him, how how how did that come about and?
Speaker 2: Transpire was? It was it during the when did all
Speaker 2: of that take? Place and how are you guys the.
Speaker 1: Highest point when you where you're at? Now, yeah when
Speaker 1: he win The Heisman. TROPHY i was there when he.
Speaker 1: WANTED i was at his. Banquet you had a chance to.
Speaker 1: TALK i got to know him a little. Bit And,
Speaker 1: derek you, know can be a little aloof you, know
Speaker 1: when we first meet, HIM i talk a whole lot
Speaker 1: kind of quiet she, Is, YEAH i always got that
Speaker 1: fashion on. Him oh D that's why it throws you.
Speaker 1: Off you feel like he's gonna have some personality that's,
Speaker 1: yeah what's this? Guy you? Know but he's kind of
Speaker 1: quiet to, himself and you're like he's like it's not
Speaker 1: like you, style you, Know it's Like, OKAY i compliment
Speaker 1: you on Like i'm gonna. SNEAKERHEAD i get. IT i
Speaker 1: like the. FACT i, mean so we we had. STORIES i,
Speaker 1: think you, know going to we had a commercial together
Speaker 1: with The Heisman, house and we really had a chance
Speaker 1: to sit and. Talk on the flight back to La
Speaker 1: it's three hours, long and we talked maybe you, know
Speaker 1: two hours and thirty minutes of that and just about
Speaker 1: everything From bama to oh stayed and The titans and
Speaker 1: contracts and styles of play and so. FORTH i think
Speaker 1: he reached out to me when who's the guy that
Speaker 1: just left running back From New? England that was he was, here,
Speaker 1: Uh Dion, Lewis Deon. Lewis When Dion lewis was brought
Speaker 1: in this, YEAR i was, There Marco murray left and
Speaker 1: the range were going. On derek he called. Me he was, like,
Speaker 1: man do you think about you, Know dion coming? In
Speaker 1: what are they trying to? Do blah blah. BLAH i, said,
Speaker 1: man you, KNOW i told him, THEN i, said just
Speaker 1: focus on. Yourself you determine how much they use. It
Speaker 1: you determine that what they want to see from you
Speaker 1: is not you hit the home. Run you can do.
Speaker 1: That he demonstrated. That but what you do in between
Speaker 1: the tackles, consistently how you control the game consistently with
Speaker 1: the five yard hard, runs the four Yard And i'm
Speaker 1: telling you the big runs are going to happen if
Speaker 1: you impose your, will if you seek out, contact if
Speaker 1: you seek out the deliver, punishment those defensive backs will
Speaker 1: get out of the. Way they don't want to see
Speaker 1: it for four quarters and you'll see the. Turnaround SO
Speaker 1: i guess he took. That and then you know he
Speaker 1: was pressing a little. Bit in the beginning of the.
Speaker 1: Season you guys go over To San diego Play San.
Speaker 1: Diego at the time was The chargers In england In,
Speaker 1: london and it was a PLAY i want to, say
Speaker 1: in the second quarter where it Was, merriweather a linebacker
Speaker 1: who was like maybe five. Ten look this up for,
Speaker 1: me how big Is. Merriweather he's not the, Biggest, yeah
Speaker 1: not the not the biggest, linebacker, Right, Perryman, Perryman. Perryman
Speaker 1: AND i, said, damn you know he elected to go off.
Speaker 1: Tackle he could have squared him, up took half his,
Speaker 1: body maybe he got three or four more yards and,
Speaker 1: whatever but he made a. Move it made it easy for.
Speaker 1: Him to tackle, him AND i remember sitting next To Keith,
Speaker 1: BULLOCK i, said you, see, man that he's too big
Speaker 1: to be running like the way he. Is he's trying
Speaker 1: to hit the home. Run he's, pressing he's not having,
Speaker 1: fun he's not imposing himself as Will AND i think
Speaker 1: the whole thing With dion and splitting time and not
Speaker 1: getting carries and all that was just messing with his.
Speaker 1: Head and it wasn't shortly thereafter he we had the
Speaker 1: conversation after that that trip when he called me on the.
Speaker 1: PHONE i believe it was A sunday night doing a bye,
Speaker 1: week and that's that's when we had the. Heart the
Speaker 1: heart and. Ship the. Rest the rest is literally. History
Speaker 1: he's had some, yo he had the monster, runs, MAN
Speaker 1: i mean he's. Monster. Yeah he's emerged as a as
Speaker 1: a leader of the. TEAM i, mean hemerged as a vocal.
Speaker 1: Leader and that's and they ride with. Him you can see,
Speaker 1: it you can you can you can feel that they
Speaker 1: feed off off of his. Energy oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: They they, definitely they're definitely all. Jelling they're definitely all.
Speaker 2: MESHING i know the old, Line, derek all of. Them
Speaker 2: they like that kind of nasty. Attitude of knowing that they,
Speaker 2: can you, know probably like yourself back in the, day like,
Speaker 2: hey we're gonna run the.
Speaker 1: Ball we want to run the ball thirty. Times but, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: HEY i appreciate. You this thing is almost spent two.
Speaker 1: Hours you're almost one of the. Longest. Yeah oh, man
Speaker 1: so AM i? Boring? Huh this is? Hey this is he.
Speaker 1: A we got a bunch of. Times anybody got any questions, Ready,
Speaker 1: hey don't just hold your breath, now go. On if
Speaker 1: if some schools wanted to make you a linebacker right
Speaker 1: coming out of coming out of high, school oh, yeah
Speaker 1: a couple few of. Them if they if everybody wanted
Speaker 1: you to be a running, back would you have chosen?
Speaker 1: Differently that's a great. Question that's from my. Pops If
Speaker 1: Penn state had said, yes they would need to play
Speaker 1: running back order The Nity. Lion that was my. DREAM
Speaker 1: i went there football camps as a, kid and they
Speaker 1: just didn't offer. You they offered. Me but it's too.
Speaker 1: Late but it was to play. LINEBACKER i went to
Speaker 1: go went up there an unofficial. Visit when they Played Notre.
Speaker 1: Dame they played against The Rome bettis And Ricky waters that,
Speaker 1: group and they beat. Them AND i go into locker
Speaker 1: room And i'm like and, All i'm, like, damn That's Joe, Paul,
Speaker 1: like That's Joe paterno right, there my. Hero i'm standing
Speaker 1: there in the hallway AND i got on this goose
Speaker 1: with the fur around the hood and my my skull.
Speaker 1: Cap and he looks at, me looks me up and,
Speaker 1: down and he goes off to the side and he
Speaker 1: Calls Frank, ganter the running back, coach over and he
Speaker 1: whispers and looks, back and Then frank comes. Over, Hey, Eddie, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: YEAH i remember you. Wing you were a football camp.
Speaker 1: Man you've grown, up my. Guy where are? YOU i,
Speaker 1: Said i'm At Fourking Military Academy and my heart's like.
Speaker 1: This i'm, like oh my, god they're going to ask
Speaker 1: me to come On. Monday we're going to give you a.
Speaker 1: Call we're going to come down and come see. You
Speaker 1: so go back To. Fourking couldn't sleep the night of
Speaker 1: like toss and turning lo and. BEHOLD i get a.
Speaker 1: Message Tom, bradley who recoust in the, area wants to
Speaker 1: talk to. You SO i called, him, like, hey, coach
Speaker 1: how you doing? Great win on the beating The irish
Speaker 1: and all. That, says, yeah, well we want to bring
Speaker 1: you up for a. VISIT i, said, oh that'd be.
Speaker 1: Amazing when you weep come, up we set the date or,
Speaker 1: whatever AND i, said, well are you guys looking to
Speaker 1: recruit me as a linebacker or running? Back there's a
Speaker 1: long pulse as well. Linebacker but thinking about, Linebacker we've
Speaker 1: got some young running. Backs we Got John, carter we
Speaker 1: Got Stephan, pitts we Got Mike, archie and we need,
Speaker 1: more you, know a depth at. Linebacker. Hero and that's
Speaker 1: my heart, saying because my goal was to play running back.
Speaker 1: Period so that that that. Ended that that story, there
Speaker 1: but long and. BEHOLD i didn't know they were independent
Speaker 1: at the time they become The big. Ten and that's
Speaker 1: WHEN i will go back and play Against Penn state
Speaker 1: for three, times beat them two out of three. Times,
Speaker 1: yeah a good, Question, alex that's my dad man shuts,
Speaker 1: out shut out the. Pops what About Josh? Jack come,
Speaker 1: On titans.
Speaker 5: FANS i just want to get like a little behind
Speaker 5: the scenes type thing of. You and like Ray lewis
Speaker 5: is all y'all's old, bouts like just one on, one
Speaker 5: just like the whole, crowd.
Speaker 1: Just like that time where you, guys that was on the.
Speaker 2: Sideline HE i, mean it wasn't like it wasn't a big,
Speaker 2: game but you had like.
Speaker 1: Slammed into the ground you know Play i'm talking. ABOUT
Speaker 1: i know. That what were you to on that? Play you?
Speaker 1: Know you, know you know what it, was you know
Speaker 1: what it. Was it was supposed to. Be that's the,
Speaker 1: moment like you would always, say he knocks me. Out
Speaker 1: that was his time to knock me out of that.
Speaker 1: Game AND i JUST i don't. Remember rebating was a
Speaker 1: bunch of cuss. WORDS i know. That it's a bunch of.
Speaker 1: Mfs if You i'll be back same. Play you. Know
Speaker 1: it was a lot of going back and. Forth yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah a. Lot, yeah we would go at. It. MAN
Speaker 1: i think that, was uh the playoff. Game yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: that's not, no that's just the regular season. Game Was
Speaker 1: he probably one of your favorite defensive players to play?
Speaker 1: Against WAS i wouldn't say, favorite but because because of
Speaker 1: he was always. There he was more or less by,
Speaker 1: far the greatest Linebacker i've ever. Faced oh, yeah without a,
Speaker 1: doubt because he's, smart, instinctive and if you're not, careful
Speaker 1: he knock the ship out of. You, yeah you, know
Speaker 1: he was he was that.
Speaker 2: DUE i, mean, hell he's got a clip being on
Speaker 2: kickoff return and almost killing a man on a on a.
Speaker 1: Backblock, basically, yeah you know What i'm talking. About he
Speaker 1: told the dude to come out of the end. Zone,
Speaker 1: Yeah he's, like, hey, no take it out of the.
Speaker 1: Zone he was on kick. Return that. Was that was
Speaker 1: when Ed reid turned it for a touchdown right before
Speaker 1: half to kick the field goal and make the field.
Speaker 1: Goal they came. Out he Told edred to come out of.
Speaker 2: There i'm telling you he had a kickoff return rep
Speaker 2: like he was on special. TEAMS i swear to, GOD
Speaker 2: i don't know why he, was but he was on
Speaker 2: special teams type In, yeah Ray lewis kickoff return.
Speaker 1: Do uh He i'm telling, you, WELL i. DON'T i
Speaker 1: don't doubt it because he's that type of, player without a.
Speaker 1: Doubt we've always had a, rival a fierce, rival me
Speaker 1: and him coming out of nineteen ninety. Six, man how.
Speaker 2: Uh what was the thoughts in your head when he
Speaker 2: took that when he got that interception and took it
Speaker 2: to the.
Speaker 1: House, well, honestly prior to, that the field, goal it
Speaker 1: was a field goal that was blocked and returned for a,
Speaker 1: touchdown and that play took the win out of our
Speaker 1: sales because to get back into score on that defense
Speaker 1: that year was like. Damn it was like me trying
Speaker 1: to get to the. Moon you know. It really it
Speaker 1: was very difficult to get in the position to score
Speaker 1: against his. Defense, YEAH i, mean because they were that.
Speaker 1: Good it ran a four to Three Sarah goosa And
Speaker 1: Sam adams in the middle cover two beat. It that's.
Speaker 1: It it was no exotic. Blitzes they weren't trying to
Speaker 1: sugar look at. HIM i mean it was it was
Speaker 1: for growning. Only so once that play, happened it was
Speaker 1: it was, like all, right we're out of our. Element
Speaker 1: it hits me. Down if you saw the ball get
Speaker 1: tipped into his, hands right. Yeah Now baltimore fans like
Speaker 1: to say he snatched it out of my, hands THAT
Speaker 1: i carried the, football that he ripped it out and
Speaker 1: the ball was behind. Me, yeah it's it's it's, uh
Speaker 1: but you know that, happens, man that. Happens that's that's
Speaker 1: when it all went. Down he had six minutes and
Speaker 1: forty seconds. Left, yeah that was. It, oh that was.
Speaker 1: It that was six, Minutes, yeah six forty five and
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Speaker 1: man and good luck to you, too, brother thank, you
Speaker 1: thank you and all your. ENDEAVORS i think this is
Speaker 1: going to be. Huge it already is so, well IT'S i,
Speaker 1: mean it's not huge, yet but it is. Growing, yeah
Speaker 1: it is. Growing it's going in the right. Direction, yeah
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