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<v Speaker 1>We Roland.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the fucking boys, man, Yo, hell of an episode

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<v Speaker 2>on Busting with the Boys. We had Eddie George legend,

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<v Speaker 2>he's in the college Football Hall of Fame. He's had

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<v Speaker 2>his jersey retired at both Ohio State and the Titans.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about a lot of shit, man.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about his going going to school back in Philly,

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<v Speaker 2>how his mom took him to Virginia, right, yeah, down

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<v Speaker 2>in Virginia to attend Fork Union Military Academy. My man

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about doing marches before practice. Call him what

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<v Speaker 2>fatigue day? Fatigue day like military stuff before they even

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<v Speaker 2>do practice. A lot of good stories, man, going through

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State adversities he went through in a high school

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<v Speaker 2>and Ohio State why he basically was non existing his

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<v Speaker 2>sophomore year and basically you know, the comeback he had

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<v Speaker 2>to make after having some fumble issues his freshman year,

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<v Speaker 2>winning the Heisman Trophy closest vote history, beat Our boy edged,

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<v Speaker 2>our boy out, Tommy Fraser, Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out, Nebraska, all free shoutouts.

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<v Speaker 2>Always going into his NFL career, being drafted by the

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<v Speaker 2>Houston Oilers, the difference between college facilities and NFL facilities,

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<v Speaker 2>then making the transition to the Tennessee Titans, playing in

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis that first season and practicing at Vanderbilt Tennessee State.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it was a shit show their first

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<v Speaker 2>when they were transitioning over into their until they got

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<v Speaker 2>their new stadium in nineteen ninety nine, playing for Coach Fisher,

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<v Speaker 2>the final that play at the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Where they were one yard short.

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<v Speaker 2>How he's been able to use that as inspiration and

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<v Speaker 2>influence throughout his life since then playing with Steve McNair.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a big segment. A lot of good stories

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<v Speaker 2>with McNair, I mean, unreal stories.

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<v Speaker 1>What else, boys, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean a lot of shit transitioning having a bad breakup

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<v Speaker 2>with the Titans and into the Dallas Cowboys. His respect

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<v Speaker 2>for Jerry Jones as a businessman. What he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>learned transitioning into entrepreneurship, the business world, acting, acting on Broadway,

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<v Speaker 2>performing on Broadway, Edward George Wealth Management, incredible stuff. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>He's an insightful cat. It's I'm sitting there like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>any any young cats that are young athletes that are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna play in the that are gonna play in the league,

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<v Speaker 2>that are playing in the league, any of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's somebody you need to seek out for.

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<v Speaker 1>Advice man, financial advice.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had some ups and downs, a lot of pivotal

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<v Speaker 2>points and throughout his career that he shares in depth.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of good football talk, a lot of good

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<v Speaker 2>football stories, a lot of good locker room talk.

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<v Speaker 1>As always. Uh but yeah, man, Eddie George.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get into the episode, you know, obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>I'm missing a lot of good Titans talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, a lot of good Titans talk. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>we telling to drop the fucking hook now, you boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all good, yes to to check. All right, we

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<v Speaker 1>are ready to rock.

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<v Speaker 2>We go back there, Josh, all right, Garrett, Yeah, Garrett

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<v Speaker 2>is right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what shut Man? But told me to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the funk off? Oh really No, I'm just teasy man.

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<v Speaker 1>So where where does where's your son go to school?

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<v Speaker 1>My youngest goes to Montgomery Bell Academy. Okay, how many

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<v Speaker 1>do you have? I have too. My oldest Winter Vanderbilt,

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<v Speaker 1>played there for four years, five years, and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>at USC Film School. Okay, yeah, nice smart kid, man.

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<v Speaker 2>So what what's it like being a parent of a

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<v Speaker 2>high schooler that is their high school?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Well, one was in college out of college, the

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<v Speaker 1>other one is in high school. It's it's unique, man,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you you watch your kids grow, you watch

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<v Speaker 1>them become a completely different person over the years. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you'll be you'll you'll be a father in their adulthood,

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<v Speaker 1>more so longer than you would be in their childhood. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny when you think about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>always see my children as babies. But they grow up

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<v Speaker 1>so fast, and they they'll pass thrust your kids, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet. They'll pass a threshold around eight years old

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<v Speaker 1>when they start to really figure things out how to

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<v Speaker 1>really be manipulative and use it. I mean when they're infants,

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<v Speaker 1>they understand it, but they don't know how to control it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They're chess players, they're checker players. From one to about

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<v Speaker 1>eight and then they become chess players eight until fifty five. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's that's how especially girls too, man. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my boys are on my life, man, and I enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>watching them grow and achieve their dreams and watch them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have setbacks and have failures and success and

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<v Speaker 1>the highs and lows of life, much like your what

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<v Speaker 1>your journey has been for you in terms of your

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<v Speaker 1>football career. And now that you're doing this deal, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing the ebbs and flows of it. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's wonderful to witness that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how does your high schooler feel like going to

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<v Speaker 2>school with everything kind of going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, he hates school regardless. Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>spread out there.

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<v Speaker 3>So when they canceled last year, it's like, oh hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>really something.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great for everybody because we didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>get up at five thirty in the morning taking school.

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<v Speaker 1>He just hops out of bed, but to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's out of bed, yeah, and then he'll go downstairs

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<v Speaker 1>and sit down, do his work, go back to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>between classes, and go back to work. And it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a cool schedule. Yeah, but I think now

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<v Speaker 1>the fatigue is set in where he wants to They're

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<v Speaker 1>doing a hybrid right now for the first two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that hybrid is when they're doing some virtual

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<v Speaker 1>classes one day home the next on. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing two days in school, three days home. Next

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<v Speaker 1>week is gonna be three days in school, two days home,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they want to attempt to bring all the

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<v Speaker 1>kids together, and that's when all hell can break loose.

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't. We're crossing our fingers praying that no

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<v Speaker 1>one gets ill, and then they have this thing under controls.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the hell to believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Bro, it's so crazy out there, how much news

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<v Speaker 2>like you just yeah, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. It's like, I mean, I heard that the coronavirus

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<v Speaker 1>for men under thirty makes your penis small. What strengths

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<v Speaker 1>your penis? I swear, I thank god I'm thirty. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Boys, you guys are September or September nineteenth, So you

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<v Speaker 3>saw thirty one, Okay, but they yeah, they said, like thirty,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's the threshold.

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<v Speaker 1>So I need to be careful some of the asymptomatics deals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it strengths your penis, So you want to be careful.

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<v Speaker 1>B A all you guys couple there now, Yeah, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>that is what it's like, something new. Yeah I'm joking,

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<v Speaker 1>you're joking. Yeah, you'll find out, bro, But do you

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<v Speaker 1>see how that's good? Man? Yeah, I know I got

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<v Speaker 1>you on that one. Yeah, you fucking did. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take you back to I'm gonna go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>say nine years old for young comp nine years old

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<v Speaker 2>and playing football, playing tackle football. The person I were

0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.800
<v Speaker 2>from Missouri, Missouri, okassuri, So growing up like the Ozarks

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<v Speaker 2>and all that about the hour south of Saint Louis, Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm playing ball growing up, and me I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of all.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always like bigger, you know, everybody's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody in kind of the NFL is bigger and big

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<v Speaker 2>fish in small pocket on them. And I was convinced

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna be a running back when I grew up.

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<v Speaker 2>I was always like taller, I was leaner. The person

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<v Speaker 2>I looked up to and thought I was gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>based on my body type was Eddie George. So hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a surreal moment for me. Sixth grade comes

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<v Speaker 2>around sixth seventh grade. I got the pacifier mouthpiece, I

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<v Speaker 2>got the two bar running back helmet. Ye I'm out

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<v Speaker 2>there looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a white Eddie George and.

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<v Speaker 2>Two eight because hey, I had a battle between you

0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.960
<v Speaker 2>and Marshall Fawk. But my body type and everything else

0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.720
<v Speaker 2>told me I was gonna be I was gonna be

0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.600
<v Speaker 2>like Eddie George. Love watching Walter Payton, but Eddie George

0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.760
<v Speaker 2>is it, dude? So fast forward I'm about I'm getting

0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.240
<v Speaker 2>accepted for an award. I'm gonna knee you know, attention there.

0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking to myself, Okay, I'm about five six one

0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.160
<v Speaker 2>sixty as a seventh grader, five six, five seven one

0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.960
<v Speaker 2>sixty one sixty five. I'm thinking, I put on ten

0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.320
<v Speaker 2>pounds this past year. If I keep you know how

0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:36.760
<v Speaker 2>you are as a kid, if I keep putting on

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<v Speaker 2>ten pounds every year by the time I'm a twelfth grader,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was the seventh grade at the time, I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm a twelfth grader in high school going into college,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll probably be around two twenty, around what Eddie George is.

0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll probably be around six two because I hopefully I'll

0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.400
<v Speaker 2>keep growing. Everybody thinks I'm tall, Like I'm gonna keep growing,

0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna play in college for probably like three years.

0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna chuck deuces. I'm gonna go to the league

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<v Speaker 2>and be, you know, mimic everything after Eddie George. So

0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.720
<v Speaker 2>go back to that moment. I try and go to

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<v Speaker 2>a this was a year after you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>After the Super Bowl, and I go to this football

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<v Speaker 1>camp in Saint Louis around the Saint Louis Area and

0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I go as a running back and linebacker. Coaches everybody

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Me to play linebacker on defense, and I hated playing

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<v Speaker 2>line Hey, truth be told, I hated playing linebacker because

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, I'm going to be on offense.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to this camp, bug Eye, can't wait. You're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be there, Eddie George doesn't show up that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I end up doing drills like Mike Jones

0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the linebacker because they had guys, you know how, like

0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.400
<v Speaker 2>all the campus programs come in. I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>something happened. You couldn't make your flight or I don't know,

0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.680
<v Speaker 2>but you weren't there. And I remember my dad telling me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>So hurt because I was like, man, this is going

0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to be the day I got to meet him. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Now listen, I know I talk a lot. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be talking the majority of the conversation. Hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>do you thing we got a lot of history. Go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and pull up the photo so fast forward I

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<v Speaker 2>end up getting over it. You go and speak to

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<v Speaker 2>us when I am a senior junior going to be

0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.600
<v Speaker 2>a senior at Nebraska. Yeah, we take a photo obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you don't remember meeting the great clips cut the bust,

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<v Speaker 2>adult teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just a gritty grind.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were actually

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<v Speaker 2>there when Bo was there. Dave probably set it up

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<v Speaker 2>through the strength stats and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Bo Polini, Yes, right, and you came and spoke to us.

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<v Speaker 2>But we met almost August twenty four, twenty twelve, almost

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<v Speaker 2>eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>To the day we took this photo. Ay, and now.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything full circle like goosebumps thinking about the old running

0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.840
<v Speaker 2>back days and now I'm sitting here with Eddie George

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<v Speaker 2>on on busting with the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is insane. Yeah, that's right, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>down there for I was down in Nebraska doing something

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<v Speaker 1>for uh the Heisman, not the Heisman. It was in

0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.479
<v Speaker 1>the summer. It was in the summer. We come down

0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:10.120
<v Speaker 1>with our campus tours we're doing for Fox Sports. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, that makes sense. So yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we had to be doing summer campase I remember, Yeah, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, of course I remember you. Well, what I mean,

0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe you might have remembered fifty one back in the day. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you about six what six', Four, No i'm about six

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<v Speaker 1>two do about the same heighten this. Picture see you

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<v Speaker 1>were there, Though, yeah, yeah, yeah you're probably getting little.

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<v Speaker 1>Older you might your vertebrates and a. Half you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>six three and a half the next three and a. Half,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey i'll take six. FOUR i think you think you're

0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.320
<v Speaker 1>a reacher with the sixty. Three but, hey in that

0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.439
<v Speaker 1>wild man that is that is, insane, MAN I i,

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<v Speaker 1>uh do you remember missing going to a camp back

0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.119
<v Speaker 1>in the, day a little kids. CAMP i. Do that

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<v Speaker 1>was For. Budweiser there was a guy Named, DEMETRIUS i

0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.560
<v Speaker 1>can't remember his last. Name he brought me in and

0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:04.719
<v Speaker 1>my flight was was delayed coming. In so there was a.

0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Camp there was night, festivities there was a golf, tournament

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<v Speaker 1>there was all of that that whole weekend coming in

0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.760
<v Speaker 1>because my flight was delayed AND i got in later

0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 1>on after the. Camp So i'm sorry TO i KNOW i.

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<v Speaker 2>WAS i was a young boy man crushed like, MAN

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<v Speaker 2>i was gonna Meet Eddie. George yeah you know me, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>YEAH i know it's, crazy, Dude BUT i want to

0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.880
<v Speaker 2>start all the way back in the. Beginning you grew

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<v Speaker 2>up In. Philly how was that talk to us about

0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.560
<v Speaker 2>growing up In philly and when and when you exactly

0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:39.200
<v Speaker 2>knew that you were going to be a phenomenal football.

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<v Speaker 1>Player Oh, Man, WELL i grew up all Over. Philadelphia

0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.919
<v Speaker 1>grew up mainly In, abington just outside Of philadelphia With

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<v Speaker 1>North hills and my mother she worked For Ford Motor

0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.880
<v Speaker 1>company and also as a flight, attendant so we moved

0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.920
<v Speaker 1>around a lot between Like shelton Hand Southwest, Philadelphia Mount.

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<v Speaker 1>Airy SO i just claim This philadelphia BECAUSE i have

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family all over the. City you. Know back,

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<v Speaker 1>THEN i just it was it was Just. Philly it

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<v Speaker 1>was just. Home you. Know it was home Of Joe,

0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:23.560
<v Speaker 1>frazier you, Know Rocky, Balboa, eagles The Broad Street, bullies The,

0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:28.679
<v Speaker 1>flyers The. Sixers so it was it was that way of.

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<v Speaker 1>LIFE i just fell in love with the game of.

0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Football my father played the, game not at the high,

0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.720
<v Speaker 1>level just high, school but he was. HERE i would

0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.400
<v Speaker 1>always over here him telling stories of of how he

0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>loved playing the game of, football and how he loved

0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.520
<v Speaker 1>running backs And Jim brown was his favorite running back

0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and so. Forth AND i just grew up loving the.

0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Game WHEN i came out the, womb in, FACT i

0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:55.919
<v Speaker 1>used to take my father's little trophy had a trophy

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that like The, heisman AND i would JUST i would

0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.199
<v Speaker 1>break it down and then broke it, actually AND i

0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.000
<v Speaker 1>would play with LIKE i was playing on the football

0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 1>field with little, figurines AND I i just loved the

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 1>pageantry around the game of. Football. Period SO i grew

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.920
<v Speaker 1>up A Penn state football. Fan wanted to play For Penn,

0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 1>state wanted to play running back For Penn. STATE i

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be close to, home want all my family

0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:25.119
<v Speaker 1>and friends to see me play. There and of course

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:29.439
<v Speaker 1>that didn't. Happen BUT i didn't know THAT i. WANTED

0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.960
<v Speaker 1>i didn't know exactly WHEN i wanted to play. FOOTBALL

0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.439
<v Speaker 1>i just knew THAT i would make it. SOMEDAY i

0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't know how or when or. What BUT i always

0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.439
<v Speaker 1>felt it in my spirit THAT i was going to

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:44.720
<v Speaker 1>not just play the game or play at a high.

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Level yeah, yeah, yeah what happened With Penn. State, WELL

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.359
<v Speaker 1>i went to a military. Academy because my grades are.

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:58.440
<v Speaker 1>POOR i messed around in high school so much until

0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the tenth. Grade my mom had, enough so she packed

0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.919
<v Speaker 1>up our, bags packed up my, bags and drove me

0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 1>nine hours DOWN i ninety five south To virginia and

0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 1>dropped me off at The Military academy school age of,

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:18.400
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and that's when my journey really began as really

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.199
<v Speaker 1>finding out WHO i. Was prior to, THAT i, was you,

0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.879
<v Speaker 1>know six foot, pus sixteen hundred and sixty eight, pounds

0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 1>slow as, dirt not very, big lack work, ethic but

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.600
<v Speaker 1>in my MIND i could still see myself going To

0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Penn state and. PLAYING i thought it was going to

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.960
<v Speaker 1>turn it. Around BUT i lacked discipline in the classroom

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.800
<v Speaker 1>as a, person and WHEN i went To Fourth, union

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.240
<v Speaker 1>it was an eye opening experience AS i thought my

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:46.119
<v Speaker 1>career was, over only to find out that every school

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>In america comes To Fourth union to find, talent like From,

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 1>virginia you n C, Usc South, Carolina, Florida, Virginia Virginia,

0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:01.479
<v Speaker 1>tech all THE acc, schools all secondary School James, madison

0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 1>where every single school you can think of came through.

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.359
<v Speaker 1>There their, coaches head coaches comes through those. Doors SO

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:08.880
<v Speaker 1>i was in the right place at the right. Time

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>but my work, ethic my, attitude everything about me was way.

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Off and it had to start with. Me ONCE i

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.720
<v Speaker 1>started changing the WAY i, thought the WAY i viewed,

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>success that it was cool to get age and still

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.320
<v Speaker 1>be on the football. Team it changed my whole, life

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:32.240
<v Speaker 1>my prole perspective of. Life and then was shortly thereafter

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:37.240
<v Speaker 1>THAT i was able to guard into the attention of high.

0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 1>School of the high, school but college is around the.

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Country Ohio state was one of. Them, damn so hey

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 1>shut up mom, there, yeah, yeah SHE i mean it's.

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:49.440
<v Speaker 1>TOUGH i, MEAN i have a fifteen year old now

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and he gets on my nerves so And i'm, Thinking,

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:57.920
<v Speaker 1>god it would be really hard for me to send

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.719
<v Speaker 1>my son away to military. School and my mother did

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:05.639
<v Speaker 1>it without any, money any. Resources. Hardly she knew that

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.360
<v Speaker 1>she my life was in danger BECAUSE i was becoming

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a monster and becoming. THAT i wasn't quite there. Yet

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 1>BUT i had the potential to be great at. Something

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and you, KNOW i could have been great as a

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:24.479
<v Speaker 1>drug dealer or a hustler or a BUMB i can

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>do that really. Well Is ley on my constant play

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>video games and fruity pebbles all, day you. Know so

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:31.919
<v Speaker 1>the potential was there to do something, great but she

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 1>had to change my, environment and by her doing, THAT

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:39.160
<v Speaker 1>i had. TO i was able to see the potential

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>of WHAT i could become and be in. Life, man that's.

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Crazy because like you were, saying alluding to his probably

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:48.120
<v Speaker 2>to this decision you probably ever made at that, point

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 2>but knowing it's the right, one LIKE i got to

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 2>do this or he's going to go down.

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>The WRONG i wouldn't be talking to you right now

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>without any of, this you, know without having that, EXPERIENCE

0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 1>i would not be on this bus right. NOW i

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>would not be talking about my, career my, life my,

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>family my, values my principles without that.

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Experience is there an a, Moment is there a moment

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 2>you can think on that actually shifted your, perspective like

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 2>when you're because figuring that out kind of in high.

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>SCHOOL i, mean hats off to you for that, too

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of kids they. Don't they might might be,

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 2>college it might be way down the line before they figure.

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Out but it was, there like a like an ass

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 2>kicking moment where you're, like, YO i got to turn

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 2>my shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Around yeah it. Was there was a running back WHEN

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>i got down. There his name Was Lee. Green in,

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>fact he passed away this, year and he uh was

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>like everything All american running back getting recruited by everybody

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>in the. Country four point OH. Gpa just the model

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 1>of like WHAT i wanted to be six three two

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and twenty five, pounds ran a four five forty four four,

0:24:55.920 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>forty just a beast of a running back. Person he

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.479
<v Speaker 1>was a patune. SERGEANT i mean he was just, like, gosh,

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>man this is the model and that's WHAT i. WANT

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>i want to get. That how CAN i get? That

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 1>BUT i wasn't very. TOUGH i didn't like to, run

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't like to. Work and it was This, monday we

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>were running wind sprints after practice and At Fourth, union

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you march, first like we. Were we have fatigued days

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Every tuesday And. Thursday excuse, Me monday And wednesday was

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>prayed and fatigue. DAY i mean that we were. Fatigued

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>we got our rifles and we got to prepare to

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>march for however long that, is for an hour marching

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and just getting ready for this. PRAADE i hated. It

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>so we come we were already coming to practice. Exhausted

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>so it was one day that after every practice we

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>do these wind sprints for conditioning and for, competition so

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll run ten and then after that it's. Competition whoever

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>comes in first gets. Out so NATURALLY i was, like,

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Shit i'm the slowest one out. Here So i'm in

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a lolly gag until WHAT i, get you, KNOW i

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>WHEN i KNOW i can beat somebody in and then get.

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Off so and wind up beating one of the second

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>fastest guys that, day AND i throw my hands up

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in the air AND i every shit lifting t commercial

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>with the last. WATER i did that on the ground

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and my coach was, Screaming, ah that's ALL i can

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>hear is my helmets, on And i'm thinking they're cheering

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 1>me on BECAUSE i did a great. Job he, Says, George,

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>sure get your ass, up get your ass, up and

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>run another. One there's no laying down on my field

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.679
<v Speaker 1>after you after you, win or after you finish your.

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Sports there's no laying. Down you. Walk And i'm pissed,

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>up like, DAMN i just, won And i'm crying and

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>bitching about. It and all of a, sudden my teammates

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>was calling me soft and they were, like you know,

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>what May you're just selfish and this and, that and

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>he made me run another. One i' huffing and, puffing

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and then he is As i'm walking off the, Field

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>he's standing over this. Bank his bank is about twenty

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 1>FEET i guess, long and he's going downhill and just

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 1>down on the other, side the postgraduates are practicing and

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>he's watching, them sunglasses on hat on the whistle in his.

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Mouth he, Says George, kmarre he, says you're a rose.

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 1>PEDAL i see what he. Says you're a rose. Pedal

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you look, good but you're, fragile just like a rose.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Pedal so that's your. Nickname and then he, said do

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to play big time college? FOOTBALL i, said, yes,

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>SIR i. Do he, said, well listen to me And

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.719
<v Speaker 1>i'll get you. There and from that moment ON i

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>listened to. Him and it was not. EASY i still.

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Rebelled but ONCE i started seeing the system and how

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>it could work for, me and how the people, there the,

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>staff the, teachers the coaches were there to help, ME

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>i began to really work. HARD i began to work

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>at my. Craft SO i would spend hours working out

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>in the. GYM i would miss damn and miss, dinner you,

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>know just to get in every single rep THAT i,

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>could BECAUSE i could then see, it taste and feel

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>my opportunity coming now to be ready for. It. Damn,

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>hey that's a good.

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Story, yeah THAT'S i bet that was tough as ship

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 2>hearing that somebody call you a rose.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Petal oh, yeah it. Was you look, good but you're. Fragile,

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>hey that's tough. Man, yeah that's.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Tough when do you feel, like because you've alluded to

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>yourself being slow during this, time when do you felk

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>like you started coming to your OWN i assume it

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>At Ohio? State when did you start? Blossoming oh and

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of becoming that? Dude well At Old state or,

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 2>yeah at O' state was.

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>WELL i played some as my friend in my freshman

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>year as a goal line running, back AND i had

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>some success. Early it was a national televised game Against.

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Syracuse syracuse was, ranged, guys you looked us. UP i

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>think in nineteen ninety two they were ranked a preseason

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>ranked top, fifteen top. Ten it'suted to get the story,

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>right BUT i never left facts getting away with good story.

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Anyway they were, ranked there were number two in the.

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>COUNTRY i was just, going what year was, it nineteen ninety,

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>two nineteen nineteen ninety, two just type in nineteen ninety,

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Two syracuse was, ten ring tenth in the. Country that

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Was that's that's the end of the, year. THOUGH i

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Bet i'm. Trying. Preseason, yeah ranked tip top, fifteen yeah, yeah,

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>yeah top, ten and they Have Marvin, graves they got the,

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>missile they got a defense that's. Swarming they Beat Ohio

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.719
<v Speaker 1>state that past year in The Citrus, bowl so they

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of. Know so it's a home game for, them

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to carry. Them were huge underdogs going

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>in there on A saturday night game of the. Week,

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay Kirk kurbsey was our, quarterback and you knew we

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>were going to run the football because he can't throw

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>with the damn you know, that, Right and we had

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>we had all this talent Outside Joe galloway and all of,

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>that but we would go two tight ends and hand

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the ball off to me Or. Raymond but it's long story.

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Short Robert, smith who was our running, back was kind of,

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>hurt had hurt ribs and he couldn't take on the,

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>loads so we had to share the. Loads SO i

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>was playing running, back good goal line running back that.

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Night so long story, SHORT i scored three touchdowns that.

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>NIGHT i became Touchdown. Eddie The Ohio state fans loved.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Me two weeks, later we play our second biggest rival

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>in The Big ten at the Time illinois and during that,

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>period during the Era illinois owned. Us, okay they would

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>no matter if we're playing them In champagne or down

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>In ohio in The. Columbus they just had our. Number

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and this was the year we were supposed to beat.

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Them going to The Rose bull and so. Forth and

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the first, CARRY i get a goal. Line you, Know i'm, thinking,

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>okay this is the big. Ten Whatever i'm going to.

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Score i'm, thinking, like How i'm going to score my?

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Touchdown with my touchdowns going to touchdown celebrations going to be,

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>yeah go and get the, ball go up the. Middle

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>BEFORE i go, down the ball pops out and bounces

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>twice off the, turf and The illinois defended pictures that

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>it runs back ninety seven yards for a. Touchdown oh, shit,

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>yeah shit is? Right yeah. Yeah So i'm, like, Oh i'm.

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Pissed i'm. Embarrassed i'm, like, DAMN i don't even get

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a little. Opportunity cooper yells at me, again, goes get,

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>go redeem. Yourself wind up scoring a. TOUCHDOWN i brand

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody square flat over. MAN i was, pissed. Excited. Touchdown,

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>well the game goes on back and, forth back and

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>forth and we finally drive down for the winning. Touchdown

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>he throws me in the. GAME i take the. TOSS

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>i get the, toss nineteen. TOLLS i see the forced

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>defender come. UPFIELD i cut it. Underneath i'm going to

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>make a b line to the, pylon take the next,

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>step get hit in the, back ball flies in the,

0:31:55.680 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>air fumble. Recovered game. Over my season was done AND

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>i didn't see the field to get into my junior.

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Year no, ship no. Ship and that was in that

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>moment between my freshmen and sophomore year to my junior,

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>year that that's WHEN i found out WHO i. WAS

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>i had to dig a little bit.

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Deeper, yeah because you're in you, know for people who don't,

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>know like when you have when you drop off kind

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>of like that and you're going through a second year

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 2>and you're not touching the, field and you're going through

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 2>two different offseasons where not only are you training hard

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>to get back right, mentally you know every coach probably,

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>teammates like you just, know eyes are on you differently

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>than what you would, like, yes and so you are

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>in some lonely spots, sometimes no.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Question so when you're fighting, back LIKE i can't wait

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to hear the next.

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Story like for people who don't, know like coming back

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>from shit that where you feel like you're. Defined want a,

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 2>fumbler always a, Fumbler like every coach.

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Around that thinks you this like you, can't you, know,

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>teammates it's tough to overcome that tough. Mentally so what

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>happened junior? YEAR i, well how'd you battle back to

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>get that respect back for your? Jam? WELL i bust my, Ass,

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i bust my. ASS i MEAN i could have.

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>TRANSFERRED i thought about, transferring but that was only going

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to follow, me, Right SO i was. That my sophomore

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>year was a little bit better in training, camp but

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the coaches still didn't trust. Me never got those opportunities,

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>again you, know get mop up duty here and, there

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>play a. Sparently but, yeah SO i had to wait

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>my time because in our in our meeting, room we

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>had three four running backs that all went to THE

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>NFL H Robert, Smith Butler, Banote Raymond, Harris Jeff, cothine

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 1>all four of them in the. League, yeah SO i

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>had to wait my. Turn so WHAT i did WAS

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>i showed up early six o'clock in the, morning would work,

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>out AND i would come back twice a. DAY i

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>would do two a. Days and you, know you Know

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:55.959
<v Speaker 1>Dave kennedy right?

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Now, no, YEAH i KNOW i know him because he

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>was a recruiter of mine BEFORE i went.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>There, okay perfect, well his workouts were notoriously. Difficult, yes

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 1>guys talked about that all, Yes AND i would do

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>his workouts twice a. Day so all the pain THAT i,

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>felt the hurt THAT i, felt the, embarrassment the, discouragement

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and all the negative talk that was going on around,

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>ME i used that for fuel for my fire to

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>come back even. Harder so my junior, year there was

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>still speculation that we don't, know he's the, guy got

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>this young recruit coming. In let's split time and speak

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>carries with. Him and the first couple of games WERE

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>i had one hundred yards Against. Washington when we look

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>at the, TAPE i should have had two. Hundred it's missed.

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>OPPORTUNITIES i was, Rattled but it wasn't until LIKE i

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Played Michigan state In, michigan At Michigan state at Least,

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>lancing where everything just kind of slowed down AND i

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>wound up have my first two hundred yard. Game and

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>then that's when it started to pick up and then

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>my senior year was off the.

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Charts oh, yeah, Yeah heisman. Winner, yeah edged out Of Tommy.

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Fraser, yeah it's like the closest it's is it? Still

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:13.919
<v Speaker 1>is it still the THING i think at the, Time,

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>yeah at the.

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Time, yeah closest vote in history at the, Time Tommy

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 2>fraser shout out Of nebraska fifty.

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Votes, Dude tommy was the beast. Too, listen, Man Tommy,

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Fraser it's no joke that to beat him out, Right

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>he's an all time, great one of the greatest players

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>ever in college. Football you can talk About Tim. Cheebow cool,

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>right Touchdown, Timmy, Man, listen he was BEYOND i, mean

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the option was no. Joke they ran that option to

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>perfection with him And Lawrence. Phillips, please back in the,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>day Many nebraska fans still call me and tweet me

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>about about giving The heisman back To. Tommy, REALLY i

0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>took a picture of it to hear the. Troll, yeah, yeah,

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah.

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:08.120
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<v Speaker 1>Get through junior.

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<v Speaker 2>YEAR i assume you finished out the ju your junior,

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 2>year once you started hitting your, stride had a phenomenal senior.

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Year you go on and get drafted in the first.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Round it was winning The? Heisman would you say one

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 2>of the highlights of it looking back moments without a, doubt,

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 2>man just because Probably i'm sure it's an emotional night

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>lay The heisman when you think about your mom making

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 2>that choice in high, school overcome what you overcame in

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>college And i'm getting to that. Point you, see you're

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>on a pedestal at the, time but people never really

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:40.879
<v Speaker 2>see right what you got to.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead to go. THROUGH i, mean just five years before,

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:49.359
<v Speaker 1>THAT i wasn't at uh a fourth union and getting

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 1>ready for a march to wait For March march five

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>years getting a rose. Pedal. Yeah well before, yeah before,

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>THAT i was six fight pounds AND i used to

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty, EIGHT i would practice my heisman speech in

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the mirror of my grandmother's. House really, yep AND i

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>promise you, MAN i would look up at the stars

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.919
<v Speaker 1>and ask and Tell, GOD i know you have something

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>special for. ME i have no idea How i'm going

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to get there or when or, what BUT i know

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>it's coming and it's like a whirl when it just

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it just. Happened so when the heisman was a very surreal.

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Moment BUT i wasn't, surprised BUT i was, like, damn

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that really just. Happened.

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's kind of like those are you a fan?

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Of like The law of attraction and stuff like. That

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like one of those things where you're in your

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>mind you're, Like i'm not, surprised but it's.

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Crazy that it's.

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Happened happened right BECAUSE i was seeing it before all that.

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Stuff visualizing, it seeing, it. Feeling there's so much to,

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that so much to. Prayer you, know prayer is a

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>very powerful tool that we can lie or it only

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 1>goes as far as much as you believe. It if

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.520
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0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:10.359
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0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.800
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0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.960
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0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.239
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0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>god's purpose for, you and trust in the visions and

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>the dreams and the intuitions that you have about your

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>purpose in. Life you will you will see things unfold for.

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>You but the moment that you doubt it and, said,

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Well i'm gonna Test god like it only it only

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>happens for those so those idiots they go to church every,

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>weekend or those those people that you know just believe

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>in psalms and read The bible every. Day if you

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>have that, attitude then it will never happen for.

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.240
<v Speaker 2>You, well usually those attitudes come when something hard actually

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>happens for. Them but somebody will get. Believing they'll get you,

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 2>know they'll listen to a speech by you and then

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>go off Like i'm gonna do this and that in

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.919
<v Speaker 2>the moment like you get some, pushback like you got

0:41:59.920 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 2>To he's that same energy even in those moments.

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>That the pushback is the blessing right, right every superher

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 1>hero has to have, it has to have a, demon

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.480
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0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>adversary that's going to bring the best out of. You

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>when you get your ass, kicked you get your teeth knocked,

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in and you get kicked in the, gut how are

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you going to? Respond? Right you know What i'm. Saying

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>how do you? Respond that's the beauty of. It and

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 1>it happens in, business it happens in, football it happens

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 1>in every aspect of, life as a, father as a,

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>husband as whatever it. Is you want to get tested

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>because the dream is so, Big you're going to have some.

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Pushback you want to have some. Resistance, yeah, YEAH i like.

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 2>That so now you go To. Tennessee, obviously your career

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 2>speaks for itself. Phenomenal talk a little bit about some

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of your ups and downs being In. Tennessee titan first.

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Three years were, difficult having no, identity my, Fault Houston, Oilers,

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Houston Houston oilers first round the, year the first, YEAR,

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>yep and played in front of eighteen thousand fans on the.

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Average that was very. Difficult coming From Ohio state to

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the league and seeing just, like, wow this is this

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>is the?

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 2>League, right what would the wild moment speak on like

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 2>the wow this is the league because you know we might,

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 2>know but give people perspective on what you.

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Mean, well At Ohio state we had at the, time

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>we had a, big huge hot. Tub we had great tubs.

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Exactly we had a practice, helmet a game, helmet game,

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>shoes practice, shoes practice, pass game pass everything you, want

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>everything you wanted down to the. Detail it's even worse

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>now you even it's even. Better. Now excuse me with

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>with guys how they get. Pampered WHEN i got To,

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 1>houston it was a ben with jockstraps in, it and

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you go in, there you get your, job strap, out

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>shake it, out you look at it as any ball

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>stains on it or, whatever and then it was good

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.479
<v Speaker 1>to go to use. Yours And i'm, like what part

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>of the game is. This it looked like the facility

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:23.720
<v Speaker 1>was literally in like a former post office building. Transformed

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that's fucking, nuts, right it is meeting and you're, Thinking,

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>yo this is THE. Nfl this is THE. Nfl like

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the meeting the meeting rooms you had like wooden tables

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you would seat your grandmother's house and chairs wrapped around.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>It for, lunch we had to go down the street

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to go to this little bodega and get like popeye

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 1>chicken or. Sandwiches and it was nothing like you would

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>ever imagine gout professional athlete guys smoking cigarettes and shit

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>out the parking. LOT i mean it was it was,

0:44:56.719 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>like this is, crazy and that was the. Culture but

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>they that's how They that's how they did In. Houston

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 1>once they announced that we were Leaving houston and going To,

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>tennessee there was a ghost. Town it was nobody coming

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to the, game so there was no support attic going

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:19.720
<v Speaker 1>to be there for two years in this. Scenario and

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.919
<v Speaker 1>the attendance was so. Bad our last, GAME i think

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 1>it was Against. BALTIMORE i think it may have been

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand or less in the, stands and that's including

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the concession stands. Workers oh my. God you can hear

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>conversations like intimate they read the hot, Dogs get the

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>fucking hot dogs right. Now you can hear somebody talking

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>about what they did last week or problems that are

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>going on in the. Stands, yeah and it was the craziest.

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Environment but the first three years were, very very. Tough

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>playing In memphis was it was a.

0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 4>Travesty and playing In memphis was the first, year our

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 4>first Year tennessee tight because we had Coach fisher on

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 4>and he was talking about the dynamic of going and

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 4>playing In memphis and traveling back and at first you

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 4>were something About.

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Vanderbilt er maybe At Tennessee state you were using their.

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Facilities there's In Tennessee states. Facilities, yeah what are we?

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Doing yeah, yeah, Yeah Tennessee state. Facilities go back and

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>forth TO uh To. Memphis every game was it was

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>an away. Game we stayed LIKE i, THINK i want to,

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>say a motel Six, no, yeah like for when we

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 1>went To. Memphis so that was not like we had

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the best of. Anything we had to take cabs over To,

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>hey what were some of the wildest motel six? Stories oh?

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Many we Would, well she was only there for one,

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>night so it was it wasn't a whole lot that

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>we could, do but just to prove that the rooms

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>were being cleaned every, Week, yeah we would leave like

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a piece of like gum war or or an old

0:46:56.680 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>sandwich underneath the blanket where the extra blake it, is

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to see if it will be there when we got.

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Back and lo and. Behold it was there the entire. Year.

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Ship yeah it. WAS i mean it was gutter, man

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 1>it was gutn but it developed the toughness to. Us

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 1>so once we got here in nineteen ninety nine and

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 1>we saw the facility, built we saw the the stadium go,

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>up and when we walked in that stadium on a

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>preseason game and it was, packed it was, like oh,

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>shit we gotta win starting right. Now there's no time

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>to bullshit, here there's no time to put a bad

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 1>product on the. Field so we don't have any. Fans

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 1>this Was that was. It that was that Was that

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>was The michigan ingredient for. Us and that's when things just.

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Shifted you. Know we went from no mads to.

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Kings you have some cold, tubs you have some hot

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 2>tubs with that the facility that was.

0:47:55.520 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Back then right. Then still it's still different. Now, yeah

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>we had a huge hot, Tub we had a huge.

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Goal you could fit thirty guys in the cold tub at.

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 1>ONCE i, mean all of this stuff that that we

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 1>wish we, Had, like oh my, god now you go over,

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>there it's even That oh yeah, yeah, yeah it's really. Better,

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>yeah it's way. Better, man but, yeah that's those are

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the those are the glory. Days.

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Man you know my rookie, year so coming From nebraska

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 2>high up facilities as, well and then going to The

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:30.240
<v Speaker 2>washington football. Team it like my after our first, PRACTICE

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 2>i remember coming in and thinking, Like, yo we're the

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 2>cold tubs and.

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Stuff like what what's going?

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 2>On because the cafeterias are weird in like every team at.

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>First but you walk into the training room and off

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:44.839
<v Speaker 2>on like some side room Like rack Or Rat Brian

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Rackpo London. Fletcher they're like they have water hoses putting

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.359
<v Speaker 2>these these tubs, together just these little binds that they,

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>had like you know from outside like oh yeah this

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 2>is how we's how we you know, right this is

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 2>how we got to do it here, man until we

0:48:57.239 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 2>get some tubs next. Year BUT i was, Thinking, yo

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 2>this is THE. Nfl, yeah it's.

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Surprising and it was way it was way. Different, yeah

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 1>money went into players compared.

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:12.760
<v Speaker 2>To in, college it goes into the. Facilities, now nineteen ninety,

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 2>nine that year you guys go to The Super. Bowl

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 2>talk to us about that. Year we talk to us

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 2>about what it's like playing for Coach. Fish how you

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 2>guys all handled the. Transition like you, said now you've

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 2>got fans in the, stadium you're trying to, basically, hey

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:26.799
<v Speaker 2>we want to win and keep this the way it.

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Is we got to show out for these.

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 2>Guys talk about that transition of going into playing that.

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Season, yeah it. Was it was a lot of things.

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Changing it was the, uniforms it was the. Name the

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 1>fans were part of the process of naming, us the

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:47.239
<v Speaker 1>tightness and we we we felt a genuine love with.

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Them Coach fisher was masterful of bringing us From houston

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:57.399
<v Speaker 1>To nashville because we were still. Competitive we went eight

0:49:57.440 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and eight during those, years and everybody looks at his

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>record eight and? Eight what the FUCK i, mean think

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 1>about what he had to deal. With, yeah like that's

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 1>that shit ain't, easy, RIGHT i mean to try to

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>get a team ready every single, week selling us on

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>what you, know with with no, fans like come, on,

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:20.319
<v Speaker 1>like that's that's to be, commendable to put a product out,

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>there to do the best you. Can we could have

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.840
<v Speaker 1>easily went one and, twelve and it were one in

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and and and that was okay because there was

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:32.879
<v Speaker 1>no pressure there for us to, win so to come

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:36.280
<v Speaker 1>up with creative ways to sell the game plan every single,

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 1>week and we were dead. Tired we there was no

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 1>was no incentive really to play other than for each.

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Other those were some tough. Years so once we got

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 1>everything in place and we finally had a sense that

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:54.239
<v Speaker 1>we that we, mattered and it was it was, like oh,

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>god you can feel it in the and you can

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>feel the. Energy and training camp in nineteen ninety, nine

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i was in my third, Year steve was coming

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:09.919
<v Speaker 1>into his. Own we had picked just drafted some, receivers young,

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Receivers Kevin, dyson we just Drafted Javon. Curse. Yeah now

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that was literally, like oh, god we can Really we

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.279
<v Speaker 1>already had a good, defense but he set it.

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Off because he had that rookie year that was like

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 2>he couldn't use uneptional.

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Man he was. Unblockable and then you throw in the

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 1>fans where it was the loudest stadium in the league

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>at the. Time they thought we were piping sound in.

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 1>It so it was. Raucous it was a hornous ness

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:42.759
<v Speaker 1>when you walked into A dulphia stadium and you had

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.879
<v Speaker 1>to deal with a team that was nasty that, said,

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>look we're gonna run the ball thirty times you're not

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:50.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna even worry about throwing it, vertical but you're gonna

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with us in the box for sixty plus.

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Minutes he's gonna be iron fists for sixty more plus.

0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Minutes are you man enough to deal with? That? Yeah

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you know What i'm. Saying that's the mentality that we.

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Had and it was a beautiful. Thing you. Know we were,

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>nasty were, grimy work going throw up. Three we're gonna

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:15.320
<v Speaker 1>beat you ten to nine thirteen three, yeah, yeah pacifire,

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>mouth no, doubt. Man and that's we're gonna get. It

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the old the ski mask, quay you, know that's how

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 1>we could do. It and h ninety nine was a great.

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Year we did not lose a game in that stadium

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 1>at all that that, YEAR i think for the first

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>our first two or three, years and have never lost

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 1>a home. Game. Damn. Yeah now let's get to the Super.

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Bowl how how how often do you still think about

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>The Super? Bowl you? Know it comes up almost every

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>day in some. Capacity hey that's, tough. Man well it's.

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Not it's, not, NO i, know But i'm saying like,

0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that like, here and here's, Why because it was it's

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.839
<v Speaker 1>tougher in THE Afc Championship game to get, there that's

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:09.399
<v Speaker 1>the toughest game to play in. Too that's a that's

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>a grind out, war and it's survival of the fittest

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>in that. Game so to get to The Super bowl was, like, ah,

0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:22.320
<v Speaker 1>okay we're, here and it's that's the. Reward to play

0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:26.399
<v Speaker 1>for the ultimate prize and to have battled the way we,

0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Did i'm okay with. That i'm okay with. That it

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:35.280
<v Speaker 1>let me, know like at that moment When Kevin dyson

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:43.920
<v Speaker 1>stretched out his arm didn't cross the goal line and

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>the confetti's flying, everywhere it was, like, damn we just experienced.

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:57.759
<v Speaker 1>This we didn't. Win it hurts like, hell but it

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>sparked something in us that we knew we had something

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:06.320
<v Speaker 1>special for a certain window of. Time SO i remember

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:12.359
<v Speaker 1>after that, game we flew back To nashville and we're

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 1>supposed to supposed to The Pro, bowl AND i Told,

0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>JEFF i, said, look, Man i'm thinking about not even

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 1>going to The Pro. Bowl you, KNOW i want to

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 1>get started on next year right. NOW i think HE'S

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:27.839
<v Speaker 1>i think he's mentioned that on the right right, now

0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:32.720
<v Speaker 1>like not, tomorrow but right, Now i'm Gonna i'm gonna

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:36.799
<v Speaker 1>get stretched out'na, recovered But i'm hitting the. Hills i'm

0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:38.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna go on the. Sabbatical i'm gonna go and train

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:42.200
<v Speaker 1>in the. Mountains i'm gonna go The rocky, style you,

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:45.680
<v Speaker 1>know club lane, style you know What i'm, saying where

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the rats are rolling around and the pipes are growing,

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 1>out you, know you know that that type. Ship that's

0:54:55.239 --> 0:55:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that's WHAT i was. On and, UH i was that

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 1>hungry for it to have, that to be that close

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>to winning. It and now that taste in your, mouth,

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>man is. Intoxicating it's, addictive AND i wanted, that AND

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:15.719
<v Speaker 1>i felt like that STAGE i felt comfortable being. ON

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>i Enjoyed That's that's WHERE i belonged on a on

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 1>a stage like that. Consistently my goal was to get

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 1>back there. Consistently and of course you know that the

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 1>story behind, that BUT i did so knowing.

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 2>That you don't ever go back and think like there's a,

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 2>like is there anything else that could have been executed

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 2>differently on that final?

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Play? Oh, YEAH i think. That is there any a

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:40.879
<v Speaker 1>different play you wish would have been?

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Called is there a different moment in that game THAT i,

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>mean you know all those things you said was.

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 1>MADE i, mean we're at the two yard.

0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Line here We, hey by the, way a hell of

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:52.640
<v Speaker 2>a fucking tackle By Mike jones.

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Death, yeah he he played he played it. Well Kevin

0:55:56.200 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 1>dyson could take a step further and THAT. O that's

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that was. It that was that was the. Play and

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:06.759
<v Speaker 1>they rushed the field and that and that's and so

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>all she, Wrote but hindsight twenty, twenty, man we battled like. Warriors,

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Man AND i remember being in the huddle before this,

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>play AND i said to, myself regardless of what, Happens

0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 1>i'm gonna hold my head up high because this is a,

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>team the greatest show on. Turf was supposed to blow

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 1>us out seventeen points or, whatever and we beat them

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 1>earlier in that year two so had we gone into,

0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 1>overtime that defense was so. Tired it was it was

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 1>our game to. Win so you, know WHEN i look, back,

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:46.759
<v Speaker 1>yeah we, lost but people remember that game and they

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:51.799
<v Speaker 1>have long lasting relationships and friendship from. It i've distracted so,

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 1>much so many lessons in life about that THAT i

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>can teach to my sons using my. Speeches so it's

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 1>served its. Purpose it really. Did, YEAH i like that

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:04.840
<v Speaker 1>uh silver lining on it.

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Too the how you use it as influenced absolutely speeches

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:13.879
<v Speaker 2>and things like. That, obviously everyone knowing that we would

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.520
<v Speaker 2>have you on the, bus everybody included.

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations on the, baby because you couldn't do it because you.

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Baby taylor had a, Baby taylor Had REMEMBER i have no,

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>baby not. YET i just. Arried next, YEAR i just

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 1>got how'd you do?

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:32.440
<v Speaker 2>IT i we were out In oakland and we were

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 2>about to fly To denver for our last, game AND

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 2>i had had a plan to do it that year

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:37.960
<v Speaker 2>in some, capacity AND i was.

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Running out of. Time and WHEN i went To, Oakland i'm,

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 1>like all, right how AM i going to swing?

0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 2>This SO i got to set up at this local

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 2>at this local, restaurant set this que little spot up

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 2>by the, window a little two. Seater and she'd always

0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 2>wanted a love note from. Me and you, know some

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the masculinity kicks at the times and you're, Like i'm

0:57:57.800 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>not going to write you a love. Note but something

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 2>clicked to my.

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 1>HEAD i was, Like, okay if she's always want to

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>love not for like her birthday or, Something i'm gonna

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 1>do it for our.

0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Engagement SO i wrote a very well written love. Letter

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>gave it to her as like a birthday. Card she

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:12.520
<v Speaker 2>opened it. UP i said she had to read it

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 2>aloud so that WAY i.

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't fumble a, a so that WAY i wouldn't fumble over my.

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Words and she doesn't know at, first and then she

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 2>gets in the last paragraph and she realizes coming, together

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 2>she starts tearing. UP i get. OUT i moved the

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 2>little table to the. SIDE i get down on a

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:29.400
<v Speaker 2>knee and crying WHILE i was tearing. Up But i'm

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 2>like THE pda. Stuff it bothers. Me so getting over

0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the hump being in public doing, it it was like

0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 2>a Big it was just a big. STEP i was,

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:37.960
<v Speaker 2>like here's WHAT i gotta do it in front of,

0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 2>people got a face one, Fears but.

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it. Was and it is dope because you create

0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the moment in time that she'll never. Forget that's a

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:49.400
<v Speaker 1>memory that she'll never. Forget i'm glad you did it

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>right too. Well thank you wrote a love. Letter wrote

0:58:52.400 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 1>a love. LETTER i used to write love letters all

0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the time back in grade. School when you're, like you,

0:58:57.480 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 1>know writing some notes and you pass in the. Hallway

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:01.320
<v Speaker 1>but you know how it is this day and age man,

0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like are your kids at the, right THEY'RE dm and.

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Stuff that's What i'm. Saying it's different now like body,

0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:13.080
<v Speaker 1>parts like LIKE i SEE i see the ship that

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 1>goes on in my. Household, yeah And i'm, like, look,

0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 1>hey cut this ship out right, now you cut it. Out,

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:23.439
<v Speaker 1>yeah you, Know i'm not gonna put. Myself he's never know,

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that not like. That but, yeah, yeah, yeah kids are

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it's different. Nowadays but it really is.

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Different but, anyway now we have the letter hanging, up

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:35.280
<v Speaker 2>so it was really. Good but WHAT i was going

0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:37.880
<v Speaker 2>to ask you, was, yeah there it is right.

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:43.640
<v Speaker 1>There very, nice very. Nice, yeah beautiful. Girl. Man yeah that,

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:47.240
<v Speaker 1>yeah thank you. MAN i definitely.

0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Did but going back to that year and just talking

0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:55.960
<v Speaker 2>playing on The titans in, general everyone always loves to

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 2>know what it was like stories Of steve McNair playing With.

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Eve you, know what teaching lessons you might have taken

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:06.440
<v Speaker 2>from him as a, teammate a, player a man off the,

1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 2>field any of that stuff that you might. Use, now

1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:12.880
<v Speaker 2>what was, it, like what's something that exemplifies your guys',

1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:16.800
<v Speaker 2>relationship your guys is being on the field. Together what

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:18.760
<v Speaker 2>are Some steve McNair stories that you might.

1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Have, WELL i was a fan Of steve coming coming

1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:24.480
<v Speaker 1>From Ohio state into, COLLEGE i mean into the Pro excuse.

1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Me he went to All Corn state ON hbcu In,

1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:35.160
<v Speaker 1>mississippi and his he was. LEGEND i mean, shit he

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:38.440
<v Speaker 1>graced the cover Of Sports, illustrated hands them The. HEISMAN

1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:41.560
<v Speaker 1>i mean he's breaking all types of, records and you,

1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>know he was just an awesome. Athlete to to to,

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:47.480
<v Speaker 1>KNOW i mean he finished third or second in The

1:00:47.520 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Heisman Trophy Maham Rashaan, salaam and he was. Everything but

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to become his, teammate to get to Know steve. Intimately

1:00:57.680 --> 1:01:02.280
<v Speaker 1>he was the type that wouldn't allow people in if

1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:05.760
<v Speaker 1>he didn't. Know he was very protective of his feelings

1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and what he thought and so. Forth so it was

1:01:07.480 --> 1:01:11.400
<v Speaker 1>really tough to get beyond the exterior Of Io steve.

1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Was he didn't trust a lot of. People but once

1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:17.080
<v Speaker 1>he lets you, in, man he was just come on

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<v Speaker 1>his bus and flip flops and a glass of moonshine

1:01:22.000 --> 1:01:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and you, know dipping his mouth coming from. Fishing he

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<v Speaker 1>was just a country boy at. Heart he was more country.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy loved being a country boy than loved being a football.

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<v Speaker 1>Player you, know he loved his. Family he was a

1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:38.160
<v Speaker 1>family man and and that's that's who he. Was loved his.

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<v Speaker 1>Teammates and there were times after practice Every, friday every Single,

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<v Speaker 1>friday we would uh at the when we were The.

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<v Speaker 1>Titans he was he would get catfish and hush puppies

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<v Speaker 1>and and get some, beer you, know and sit out

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<v Speaker 1>and talk talk ship in the in the back office

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<v Speaker 1>and the equipment room and just just vibees watch you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know Every, friday would we would do. THAT i love

1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:08.880
<v Speaker 1>those days because the days were over a short day

1:02:09.080 --> 1:02:12.959
<v Speaker 1>getting out Good. Friday. Man it was the absolute. Best

1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and he would give you the shirt off office's back for,

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<v Speaker 1>you you. Know and that's how he. WAS i remember

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<v Speaker 1>a time WHEN i was was a worst game THAT

1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:25.320
<v Speaker 1>i probably played as a. Pro it was A monday

1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:28.720
<v Speaker 1>night game Against. Baltimore fumbled the balls coming off of

1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:33.880
<v Speaker 1>a toe. Injury my mother wind up winds up getting

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<v Speaker 1>arrested for, something and uh coming to the game and

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<v Speaker 1>it's and the final after the game, Show i'm like

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<v Speaker 1>feeling really, low you, know dad and this and barracked

1:02:46.400 --> 1:02:49.520
<v Speaker 1>all this, stuff and he calls me up and it's just,

1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:51.920
<v Speaker 1>hey two seven, man let's go out and get something to.

1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Eat you, KNOW i know how you're. Feeling and he

1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:56.840
<v Speaker 1>was that type of type of, teammate you, know always

1:02:56.880 --> 1:03:01.960
<v Speaker 1>protecting his. Brothers BUT i watched this, man you, know

1:03:02.920 --> 1:03:05.600
<v Speaker 1>deal with a lot of adversity during his time as a.

1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Quarterback being An African american, quarterback he had to door a.

1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Lot it took him time to find his. GAME i

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<v Speaker 1>think there were times when we handcuffed him because of his.

1:03:16.560 --> 1:03:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Abilities steve was a quarterback that wasn't the, pockets stand

1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:24.200
<v Speaker 1>in the, pocket throw the ball down field type of.

1:03:24.200 --> 1:03:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Guy and he could do those, things but he needed

1:03:27.240 --> 1:03:30.600
<v Speaker 1>weapons around. Him he needed to be the highlight of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Offense he wasn't the type of this play action and

1:03:34.160 --> 1:03:36.160
<v Speaker 1>then throw it to the. Flat you. Know he had,

1:03:36.240 --> 1:03:41.320
<v Speaker 1>special special skill. Set so it wasn't until two thousand

1:03:40.800 --> 1:03:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and one two that they really began to put the

1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:50.640
<v Speaker 1>reins in his hands and allow him to, become you,

1:03:50.680 --> 1:03:54.640
<v Speaker 1>know the wizard on the. Field he really went from

1:03:55.680 --> 1:03:58.960
<v Speaker 1>an elementary offense to be coming to having a PhD

1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:03.880
<v Speaker 1>literally on the field calling his own, plays going five

1:04:03.920 --> 1:04:06.400
<v Speaker 1>wives and we didn't even have the. Plays we needed

1:04:06.440 --> 1:04:09.800
<v Speaker 1>to go over the plays and. Practice he would know

1:04:09.880 --> 1:04:13.520
<v Speaker 1>how to check and manipulate the defense and win the,

1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:16.120
<v Speaker 1>run win the. SLIDE i mean just all the nuances

1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to see out of a. Quarterback and

1:04:19.080 --> 1:04:23.040
<v Speaker 1>he has watched his confidence grow over time where he

1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:25.680
<v Speaker 1>can put the ball on your ear. Lob but there

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<v Speaker 1>was also a time when he couldn't throw a five

1:04:28.000 --> 1:04:29.680
<v Speaker 1>yeard out because his confidence was so. Low so to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the drastic difference from one player to the next

1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:37.480
<v Speaker 1>was incredible to see, that and it was all based

1:04:37.480 --> 1:04:41.960
<v Speaker 1>off of one thing was. Perseverance he persevered through the,

1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:46.840
<v Speaker 1>doubt through the, naysayers through personal, doubt through his own personal,

1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:51.680
<v Speaker 1>demons not wanting to play the. Game there was a

1:04:51.760 --> 1:04:53.880
<v Speaker 1>game when Against Kansas city when he got hit in the.

1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Sternum he was boot off the, field didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>play football. AGAIN i wanted to come back two or

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks. Later ah just cold off the bench in

1:05:03.120 --> 1:05:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter through the game. Win he touchdown Against

1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:09.280
<v Speaker 1>pittsburgh and three. Rivers so it was all those little things, that,

1:05:09.440 --> 1:05:13.520
<v Speaker 1>man this dude is just mentally. Tough he was physically,

1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:16.240
<v Speaker 1>tough but more so mentally inspiracy tough than anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Else damn are there are there a couple of plays

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<v Speaker 2>that would define you guys as arguably being the two

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<v Speaker 2>Best titans that ever put on a, uniform or are

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<v Speaker 2>there a couple of plays like you're in the moment

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<v Speaker 2>he might go off cuff and be, like, hey now

1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:33.000
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do, this or some you know something that's, like,

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<v Speaker 2>uh would be fun to to kind of know about

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't go with the ebbs and flows of every other.

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<v Speaker 1>Story, Well steve during HIS mvp year wouldn't practice during the.

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<v Speaker 1>Week oh really? Nah he would always as TO, qb

1:05:46.680 --> 1:05:49.680
<v Speaker 1>would not practice during the. Week we did not see.

1:05:49.800 --> 1:05:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Him he was in the in the training room taking a.

1:05:53.880 --> 1:05:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Nap He'll Sanford AND's son the price is, Right matt

1:06:00.120 --> 1:06:04.360
<v Speaker 1>lock all. Out that was his. Thing he would watch

1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:06.480
<v Speaker 1>all those shows and they would come out to. Practice

1:06:06.520 --> 1:06:09.600
<v Speaker 1>because he was banged up a. Lot so we were

1:06:09.600 --> 1:06:12.000
<v Speaker 1>In New. York we were playing In New York. GIANTS

1:06:12.480 --> 1:06:17.360
<v Speaker 1>i think we lost suggest a week before and he

1:06:17.400 --> 1:06:19.640
<v Speaker 1>could not move like his. TOE i think he had

1:06:19.640 --> 1:06:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a toe injury or a knee. Injury he was banged

1:06:22.720 --> 1:06:25.720
<v Speaker 1>up from head to toel and we were losing the.

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<v Speaker 1>GAME i think a boy like fourteen, points fifteen points

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<v Speaker 1>or something like, that and he led us to a,

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<v Speaker 1>COMEBACK i mean just with five, wives no, HUDDLE i

1:06:34.600 --> 1:06:38.120
<v Speaker 1>think for the last for the last, quarter and he

1:06:38.240 --> 1:06:40.720
<v Speaker 1>led us to a comeback in A New york. Market

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<v Speaker 1>and that to me was just so impressive because he

1:06:44.560 --> 1:06:50.479
<v Speaker 1>never gave. Up he never shied away from. Adversity even

1:06:50.480 --> 1:06:53.120
<v Speaker 1>when we were down and. Losing he always was going

1:06:53.160 --> 1:06:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to come up and show. Up another thing About steve,

1:06:55.400 --> 1:07:00.440
<v Speaker 1>too and when he was in, college he Played Youngstown

1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:05.320
<v Speaker 1>state In youngstown and it's blistering, cold it's like fifteen below,

1:07:05.440 --> 1:07:10.200
<v Speaker 1>zero playing in the playoff, game and he's not he's

1:07:10.240 --> 1:07:12.439
<v Speaker 1>not playing. Well he knows he's leaving the next year

1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:15.840
<v Speaker 1>after the, season but he continues to play deep into

1:07:15.840 --> 1:07:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter and there getting their asses kicked in the,

1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:21.800
<v Speaker 1>cold and continues to fight for his teammates in. Himself

1:07:22.240 --> 1:07:26.000
<v Speaker 1>so he is another example of how selfless he was

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<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback and as a. Person it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing, yeah that, Was, uh that's, wild. MAN i, mean

1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:37.080
<v Speaker 2>how how how do you when you first heard the?

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<v Speaker 1>News what went through your mind when he had you,

1:07:40.600 --> 1:07:44.240
<v Speaker 1>know and everything went down and. Happened, WELL i DIDN'T

1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:46.520
<v Speaker 1>i didn't believe. IT i didn't want to believe, it

1:07:48.520 --> 1:07:52.760
<v Speaker 1>but when it was confirmed it was still is a. Shot,

1:07:53.240 --> 1:07:56.560
<v Speaker 1>yeah there's something you never get, over you, know the

1:07:56.600 --> 1:07:59.360
<v Speaker 1>moment you find. OUT i was driving back From, atlanta

1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:02.800
<v Speaker 1>my life and my. Son we were coming back to

1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:04.560
<v Speaker 1>celebrate The fourth Of, july and it was not a

1:08:04.560 --> 1:08:06.480
<v Speaker 1>cloud in the. Sky it was a hot summer, day

1:08:07.720 --> 1:08:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and as we got closer to town and the words started to,

1:08:12.240 --> 1:08:17.000
<v Speaker 1>spread it just felt like it was like a haze

1:08:17.040 --> 1:08:19.599
<v Speaker 1>over the. City it started to rain and pour for three,

1:08:19.680 --> 1:08:23.559
<v Speaker 1>days for three, days and the city was just. Down

1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:26.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like the worst loss you can ever. Imagine

1:08:26.120 --> 1:08:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and you go to, sleep wake up hoping that it

1:08:30.200 --> 1:08:33.920
<v Speaker 1>was just a bad, dream but only realized that that's

1:08:33.920 --> 1:08:36.559
<v Speaker 1>what it, was and all the things that went around,

1:08:36.640 --> 1:08:39.800
<v Speaker 1>it you, know was just even more. Devastating, yeah you

1:08:39.840 --> 1:08:40.880
<v Speaker 1>know WHAT i, Mean, yeah no.

1:08:40.960 --> 1:08:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Doubt and then everybody's probably, pulling you, know one to hear, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah because you're, Ready, george and you, know, yeah that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunate.

1:08:48.320 --> 1:08:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Man we actually had shout, out you, Know Matt, NEELY.

1:08:51.520 --> 1:08:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Rp Matt, neely we had our first social media guy

1:08:54.800 --> 1:08:56.880
<v Speaker 2>producer for the. Bus he passed on. Us so suddenly

1:08:56.960 --> 1:08:59.280
<v Speaker 2>last year he would have been my man would have

1:08:59.280 --> 1:09:01.240
<v Speaker 2>had a he WOULD i had a chubby back, there

1:09:01.320 --> 1:09:02.599
<v Speaker 2>like it's so ecstatic that.

1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:07.080
<v Speaker 1>You were on the, bomb, Man but that one was sudden, too,

1:09:07.120 --> 1:09:12.040
<v Speaker 1>man and it was that's just. Crazy that's why you

1:09:12.120 --> 1:09:15.720
<v Speaker 1>have to take every day as a. Blessing. Bro you

1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:20.320
<v Speaker 1>can't take any day for. Granted you know What i'm,

1:09:20.360 --> 1:09:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Saying you really have. To just waking up is the.

1:09:24.520 --> 1:09:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Gift LIKE i can get up and if you can,

1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:30.719
<v Speaker 1>walk see touch, here all your elements in alignment and

1:09:30.960 --> 1:09:34.479
<v Speaker 1>are in good. SHAPE i, mean that's another. Blessing and

1:09:34.520 --> 1:09:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you can see your loved ones and

1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:39.000
<v Speaker 1>they're doing well is another. Blessing because there will come

1:09:39.040 --> 1:09:42.000
<v Speaker 1>a time when your numbers, called your numbers called.

1:09:42.080 --> 1:09:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, yeah, well shifting from a shifting to A i

1:09:46.560 --> 1:09:48.519
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say lighter, note BUT i want to talk about

1:09:48.560 --> 1:09:52.880
<v Speaker 2>your transition to from The titans To dallas and how

1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:56.880
<v Speaker 2>that transition. Was, now did you was your contract up

1:09:56.880 --> 1:09:59.120
<v Speaker 2>and you went To dallas where you? Traded were you?

1:09:59.200 --> 1:10:02.840
<v Speaker 2>RELEASED i was? Released talk about that?

1:10:02.960 --> 1:10:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Time, well that time was tough BECAUSE i could see

1:10:06.360 --> 1:10:08.559
<v Speaker 1>the writing on the. WALL i was a little long

1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:12.920
<v Speaker 1>in the tooth age, WISE i was thirty thirty one years.

1:10:12.920 --> 1:10:16.400
<v Speaker 1>OLD i had a lot of knowledge on my. Body of,

1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:18.400
<v Speaker 1>course they wanted me to take a pay cut and, said,

1:10:18.400 --> 1:10:20.479
<v Speaker 1>OKAY i. CAN i can do, that but to what,

1:10:20.600 --> 1:10:24.120
<v Speaker 1>extent you, know to the point WHERE i wasn't going

1:10:24.160 --> 1:10:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to be protected in terms of, well if they could

1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:29.120
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to cut me in the middle of the

1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:31.759
<v Speaker 1>season or during, preseason they could do that with no.

1:10:32.040 --> 1:10:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Repercussions SO i just wanted a little more reassurance that

1:10:36.920 --> 1:10:38.920
<v Speaker 1>what you say was you going to, do is you're

1:10:38.920 --> 1:10:41.479
<v Speaker 1>going to. Do you're going to allow me to come,

1:10:41.520 --> 1:10:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in get my body, right come back and you, know

1:10:44.360 --> 1:10:47.439
<v Speaker 1>just got my veteran at this. Time just let me

1:10:48.160 --> 1:10:49.840
<v Speaker 1>ride out. Hard you, KNOW i still want to be

1:10:49.880 --> 1:10:54.240
<v Speaker 1>able to get the. Opportunities that's WHAT i wanted wanted to.

1:10:54.280 --> 1:10:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Do but they had plans of making me the second down,

1:10:58.720 --> 1:11:03.080
<v Speaker 1>guy only limiting me to a certain amount of. Plays

1:11:03.920 --> 1:11:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's, fine but in terms of the dollar, VALUE

1:11:08.240 --> 1:11:12.680
<v Speaker 1>i had TO i had to protect, that and we

1:11:12.840 --> 1:11:15.040
<v Speaker 1>just never could see out of eye on. That SO i, said,

1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay Bill, parcells he does well with. Veterans there could

1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:23.639
<v Speaker 1>be a resurgence. There they have a talented. Roster they

1:11:23.640 --> 1:11:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Had Keyshawn, Johnson Terry, Glenn Vinny Testa verity was the.

1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Quarterback they had a nice offensive, line a defense that

1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:35.599
<v Speaker 1>was was young but, nasty AND i had visions of

1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:39.320
<v Speaker 1>being that back that Oj anderson was for him at

1:11:39.320 --> 1:11:42.720
<v Speaker 1>The New York, giants and uh SO i took a.

1:11:42.800 --> 1:11:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Chance so this is gonna be real. Quick that transition

1:11:46.080 --> 1:11:50.479
<v Speaker 1>was the absolute. Worst, okay was it bad outing With?

1:11:50.520 --> 1:11:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee was there a better taste in your?

1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Mouth leave In? Tennessee it was BECAUSE i played them

1:11:56.400 --> 1:12:00.160
<v Speaker 1>on A monday night game in the, preseason and our

1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:05.880
<v Speaker 1>fans traveled down down to the, game and on our

1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:10.480
<v Speaker 1>sideline there were like twenty seven number twenty seven jerseys

1:12:10.479 --> 1:12:13.200
<v Speaker 1>crossed out and you're this. One you're On dallas When

1:12:13.240 --> 1:12:18.000
<v Speaker 1>i'm On. Dallas and that was hurtful Because i'm, like,

1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:21.800
<v Speaker 1>DAMN i helped build that brand to what It yeah it,

1:12:21.920 --> 1:12:25.519
<v Speaker 1>was and Now i'm in A dallas uniform and Only

1:12:25.560 --> 1:12:27.600
<v Speaker 1>god knows what's going to happen now IS i have

1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:30.840
<v Speaker 1>no idea how this whole thing's going to shake. Out

1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:33.479
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's why it was a bad breakup between

1:12:33.560 --> 1:12:36.800
<v Speaker 1>You tennessee fans and, You oh it. Was it was

1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:39.240
<v Speaker 1>a bad. Breakup oh, man it was. Not it was

1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:43.840
<v Speaker 1>not the storybook ending THAT i hoped for and hoping

1:12:43.920 --> 1:12:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to go To dallas to kind of alleviate the, pain

1:12:45.720 --> 1:12:50.040
<v Speaker 1>but it only just compounded the. Pain it just really

1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:52.680
<v Speaker 1>spread BECAUSE i saw THAT i was going to have

1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:56.400
<v Speaker 1>another opportunity to play football. Again so that and that was.

1:12:56.479 --> 1:12:59.439
<v Speaker 2>It, now did you know transitioning to The dallas that

1:12:59.479 --> 1:13:01.560
<v Speaker 2>had this could possibly be my last year in THE.

1:13:01.640 --> 1:13:04.000
<v Speaker 1>NFL i knew it was going to be my, last

1:13:04.439 --> 1:13:08.160
<v Speaker 1>either my last year With dallas or With tennessee one

1:13:08.200 --> 1:13:11.080
<v Speaker 1>or the. OTHER i wasn't quite. SURE i, mean, GRANTED

1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:13.400
<v Speaker 1>i had one thousand yards coming off a thousand yards,

1:13:13.400 --> 1:13:17.719
<v Speaker 1>season right, Yeah SO i don't know if the production

1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:20.640
<v Speaker 1>was justified to, say you, know we need to he

1:13:20.640 --> 1:13:24.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't have it. Anymore but WHEN i went To, DALLAS

1:13:24.640 --> 1:13:27.320
<v Speaker 1>i kind of felt my heart that my love for

1:13:27.360 --> 1:13:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the game was not the, same and the guys in

1:13:30.960 --> 1:13:34.439
<v Speaker 1>locker room was, different AND i couldn't play for a.

1:13:34.439 --> 1:13:38.120
<v Speaker 1>PAYCHECK i just couldn't do. IT i wasn't going to

1:13:38.120 --> 1:13:40.639
<v Speaker 1>play just to get to SAY i got a rank

1:13:40.720 --> 1:13:44.240
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and had nothing to do with. It so it

1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:45.840
<v Speaker 1>was time for me to move on to something. Different,

1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:49.960
<v Speaker 1>yeah that's always it's always, tough, man you, know going

1:13:50.000 --> 1:13:52.559
<v Speaker 1>to different locker going to a different locker, room especially

1:13:52.600 --> 1:13:54.760
<v Speaker 1>in your, situation like you, know doing what you did

1:13:54.840 --> 1:13:55.840
<v Speaker 1>for the state Of.

1:13:55.880 --> 1:13:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee and when you mentioned the whole it's hard to

1:13:58.960 --> 1:14:01.839
<v Speaker 2>play for a, Paycheck like like when you play, football,

1:14:01.920 --> 1:14:04.919
<v Speaker 2>dude you there's got to's there's a level of commitment

1:14:04.960 --> 1:14:07.960
<v Speaker 2>no matter no matter. What and the way it sounded

1:14:08.040 --> 1:14:10.080
<v Speaker 2>like from Coach fisher and then the way you alluded

1:14:10.080 --> 1:14:12.200
<v Speaker 2>to during high school and college and everything like, that

1:14:12.560 --> 1:14:15.240
<v Speaker 2>the work ethic that you put into. It it's just

1:14:15.280 --> 1:14:18.680
<v Speaker 2>when you lose a little bit of that, passion it's

1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:21.120
<v Speaker 2>you just see it. Differently, yeah you just see it.

1:14:21.160 --> 1:14:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Differently like it's just you start looking like just another

1:14:25.040 --> 1:14:28.880
<v Speaker 2>directions for different. Things and like when you lose that

1:14:28.920 --> 1:14:31.479
<v Speaker 2>passion of playing ball and like wanting to like you,

1:14:31.520 --> 1:14:34.040
<v Speaker 2>know put your face and, everything and then that kind

1:14:34.040 --> 1:14:36.960
<v Speaker 2>of just goes. Away it's just it's. Different it's harder

1:14:36.960 --> 1:14:38.599
<v Speaker 2>to play for that, paycheck it really.

1:14:38.680 --> 1:14:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Is it really is just like why AM i doing?

1:14:40.920 --> 1:14:42.960
<v Speaker 1>This and then you start Thinking i'm wearing a Number

1:14:43.640 --> 1:14:46.120
<v Speaker 1>i'm wearing a number on my back right, now And

1:14:46.120 --> 1:14:48.960
<v Speaker 1>i'm thirty something years. Old it's a young man's. Game

1:14:49.720 --> 1:14:53.800
<v Speaker 1>so what's the next. Game If i'm wearing a number

1:14:53.880 --> 1:14:56.680
<v Speaker 1>on my back And i've gotten paid fairly well on

1:14:56.720 --> 1:15:00.960
<v Speaker 1>my my, career what is the guy that's writing the?

1:15:01.000 --> 1:15:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Paycheck what is he? Worth how does he make his?

1:15:04.040 --> 1:15:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Money how to get to where he wanted to. Be

1:15:06.439 --> 1:15:09.400
<v Speaker 1>that's the next, step you. KNOW i want to be

1:15:09.840 --> 1:15:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the check writer versus having someone dictate my. Future so

1:15:15.760 --> 1:15:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that's around that. Time that's WHEN i began to start

1:15:20.760 --> 1:15:25.760
<v Speaker 1>reading business, books reading books on, corporations reading books on

1:15:25.920 --> 1:15:30.200
<v Speaker 1>great leaders Like Jack, welch you, know ge and good to,

1:15:30.320 --> 1:15:33.880
<v Speaker 1>great you, know at that particular, time just just just

1:15:33.960 --> 1:15:40.120
<v Speaker 1>doving into different owners in terms of how they conducted their.

1:15:40.120 --> 1:15:44.439
<v Speaker 1>Business say what you want About Jerry. Jones the man

1:15:44.600 --> 1:15:47.840
<v Speaker 1>is a beast. MAN i, mean, yeah. PERIOD i have

1:15:47.880 --> 1:15:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of respect AND i Love Jerry. Jones he's an.

1:15:50.520 --> 1:15:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Entrepreneur he gets, it and he understands. Marketing he understands

1:15:54.240 --> 1:15:58.120
<v Speaker 1>how to leverage his. BRAND i, Mean Dan dallas IS

1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:02.160
<v Speaker 1>i think the wealthiest team and all of. Sports oh,

1:16:02.280 --> 1:16:04.960
<v Speaker 1>yeah and it hadn't won the championship since nineteen ninety.

1:16:04.960 --> 1:16:09.599
<v Speaker 1>TWO i mean that says a. Lot ninety, seven ninety,

1:16:09.640 --> 1:16:12.160
<v Speaker 1>SIX i think was it ninety? SIX i think ninety.

1:16:12.160 --> 1:16:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Six you're, right she's in front of h thank you for.

1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:15.960
<v Speaker 1>That it was the ninety, six, right it came out

1:16:15.960 --> 1:16:21.519
<v Speaker 1>in ninety, Six so you, know he understands. That AND

1:16:21.640 --> 1:16:24.479
<v Speaker 1>i have a great deal of respect for a guy like.

1:16:24.520 --> 1:16:26.200
<v Speaker 1>That you, know he gave me an opportunity to come

1:16:26.200 --> 1:16:28.920
<v Speaker 1>play for. Him BUT i just saw something different in

1:16:29.040 --> 1:16:32.920
<v Speaker 1>terms of how you run different businesses from a different,

1:16:33.080 --> 1:16:36.280
<v Speaker 1>perspective you, know but did it his, way but Certainly

1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Jerry jones did his. Way so that That's those are

1:16:40.160 --> 1:16:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the things that inspired. Me my ending inspired me to

1:16:43.040 --> 1:16:48.360
<v Speaker 1>jump into, business into, entertainment into, entrepreneurship and to. Education

1:16:50.240 --> 1:16:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and it, was you, know everything happens for a, reason.

1:16:53.600 --> 1:16:57.439
<v Speaker 2>Right right, NOW i came ACROSS i came across an

1:16:57.520 --> 1:17:00.200
<v Speaker 2>article where you talk about some of the challenges you

1:17:00.240 --> 1:17:03.920
<v Speaker 2>had transitioning and retiring going through. That going from you,

1:17:03.920 --> 1:17:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Know i've Talking i've had conversations WITH i mean multiple.

1:17:07.080 --> 1:17:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Guys you know you probably were the same.

1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Way but you sit there and you're you, know you're

1:17:11.080 --> 1:17:13.240
<v Speaker 2>in steam rooms or hot to up cold tub and

1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:15.720
<v Speaker 2>you're just kind of talking about next chapters and stuff like.

1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:18.400
<v Speaker 2>That you're just, thinking, man it's like you go. THROUGH

1:17:18.439 --> 1:17:20.320
<v Speaker 2>i TELL i try to tell young guys and guys

1:17:20.320 --> 1:17:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Like i've went. THROUGH i was twenty three WHEN i.

1:17:22.840 --> 1:17:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Came into the.

1:17:23.360 --> 1:17:28.040
<v Speaker 2>League so you, know however Long i've worked to get

1:17:28.080 --> 1:17:31.200
<v Speaker 2>to the league at twenty three years. Old Now i'm

1:17:31.240 --> 1:17:33.880
<v Speaker 2>sitting here at thirty going on thirty. One but you,

1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Know i'm on the back nine of my. Career but

1:17:35.720 --> 1:17:39.320
<v Speaker 2>let's say my career was. OVER i worked UNTIL i

1:17:39.360 --> 1:17:42.439
<v Speaker 2>was twenty three years old to play a seven year. Career, now,

1:17:42.439 --> 1:17:45.240
<v Speaker 2>granted it's the dream that we always wanted in you're,

1:17:45.280 --> 1:17:49.120
<v Speaker 2>after but it was our entire like mindset and life

1:17:49.120 --> 1:17:51.479
<v Speaker 2>and identity all the way up until. Now you're trying

1:17:51.479 --> 1:17:53.679
<v Speaker 2>to figure out what's going to be that next roller,

1:17:53.680 --> 1:17:56.120
<v Speaker 2>coaster like the highs and lows of a roller, Coaster

1:17:56.160 --> 1:17:59.760
<v Speaker 2>like what's going to be that next like adrenaline, dump because.

1:17:59.479 --> 1:18:01.599
<v Speaker 1>That's what we. Get we, go we go to. That

1:18:01.640 --> 1:18:02.439
<v Speaker 1>we played d one.

1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Ball you were A heisman, Winner You're rookie of The,

1:18:05.640 --> 1:18:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Year YOU'RE i, mean you Made tennessee into what it

1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:11.120
<v Speaker 2>is that close to A Super. Bowl you were the

1:18:11.120 --> 1:18:14.200
<v Speaker 2>man like you were you were you Were Eddie George Tennessee,

1:18:14.200 --> 1:18:18.000
<v Speaker 2>titan and then you got to go into this chapter

1:18:18.160 --> 1:18:21.360
<v Speaker 2>of retirement when, say, hey the treads wearing off like

1:18:21.760 --> 1:18:24.040
<v Speaker 2>you once you figure out you're a, commodity it's a

1:18:24.040 --> 1:18:27.080
<v Speaker 2>hard pill to swallow that your the tires are just

1:18:27.160 --> 1:18:29.320
<v Speaker 2>wearing and, hey we're gonna have to get a new vehicle.

1:18:29.000 --> 1:18:31.160
<v Speaker 1>In here the number one in your back, Right.

1:18:31.320 --> 1:18:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah can you talk about some of those stressful

1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:38.120
<v Speaker 2>times when you right after retirement and then figuring out

1:18:38.120 --> 1:18:38.519
<v Speaker 2>that next.

1:18:38.520 --> 1:18:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Step, yeah it was a difficult one, exciting but, difficult

1:18:43.840 --> 1:18:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and it was more about finding your next passion or

1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:50.240
<v Speaker 1>finding the next purpose in your. Life you realize that

1:18:50.320 --> 1:18:57.200
<v Speaker 1>football is a, platform not your. Purpose whether you've achieved

1:18:57.280 --> 1:19:01.920
<v Speaker 1>great things like The hall Of, Fame Pro, Bowler All

1:19:01.960 --> 1:19:06.519
<v Speaker 1>pro or just simply played for seven, years it's just

1:19:06.520 --> 1:19:09.360
<v Speaker 1>still a. Platform it's what you do with it and

1:19:09.439 --> 1:19:14.160
<v Speaker 1>identifying your purpose with that. Thereafter so it felt LIKE

1:19:14.200 --> 1:19:17.280
<v Speaker 1>i was in the twilight zone WHEN i first. Retired

1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:24.120
<v Speaker 1>dealt with migraine headaches because of, stress dealt with, anxiety

1:19:24.160 --> 1:19:27.320
<v Speaker 1>couldn't sleep at night in a gut full of, butterflies not,

1:19:27.520 --> 1:19:31.040
<v Speaker 1>wondering wondering what's going to happen the next. DAY i

1:19:31.280 --> 1:19:34.080
<v Speaker 1>was not happy at all in my life at that particular.

1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Time my wife was, pregnant so all those things were

1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:42.360
<v Speaker 1>just very difficult to try to make it all make, Sense, Like,

1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:47.080
<v Speaker 1>damn what DID i just go? Through how DID i

1:19:47.120 --> 1:19:49.560
<v Speaker 1>get to this? Point what DO i do? Now? But?

1:19:49.680 --> 1:19:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Fuck who AM? I you? Know for so many YEARS i, nurtured,

1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:59.080
<v Speaker 1>cultivated perfected my craft as a running back known as

1:19:59.120 --> 1:20:03.719
<v Speaker 1>a running. Back now that's? Gone what's? Next i'm thirty

1:20:03.760 --> 1:20:06.280
<v Speaker 1>one years. OLD i wasn't born to play football and.

1:20:06.320 --> 1:20:10.760
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<v Speaker 2>such a calendar, Year like when you get, done you're

1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:08.240
<v Speaker 2>In Coach fisher's, Office, HEY i don't want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to The Pro. BOWL i want to work on Next

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<v Speaker 2>april when we get To when we get to, work

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<v Speaker 2>then it's training. Camp how AM? I how's my body gonna?

1:22:14.840 --> 1:22:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Look how AM i gonna feel going into training? Camp

1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:19.599
<v Speaker 2>then it's about maintaining not losing, much you, know having

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<v Speaker 2>to excel at training, camp not get. Injured and then

1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>from then on it's it's week to. Week what's the?

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<v Speaker 2>Mission every? Week and now when the mission is kind of, like,

1:22:27.760 --> 1:22:30.639
<v Speaker 2>yo WHAT'S i don't have to wake up the next

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<v Speaker 2>day and go in the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Day it's the beautiful, part right, Right then it's LIKE

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<v Speaker 1>i want to settles.

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<v Speaker 2>In it's like, yeah The then the next season happens

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<v Speaker 2>and you're starting to like watch and you're, like, yo

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<v Speaker 2>what what AM i trying to figure?

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<v Speaker 1>Out? Yeah, yeah so that all of that played a

1:22:45.320 --> 1:22:49.479
<v Speaker 1>part into. It SO, i, UH i went to different.

1:22:49.479 --> 1:22:53.920
<v Speaker 1>AVENUES i relied on my. EDUCATION i got into. ACTING

1:22:54.560 --> 1:22:57.840
<v Speaker 1>i started to study. Acting you're On, broadway, Right, YEAH

1:22:57.880 --> 1:23:00.719
<v Speaker 1>i went On. Broadway BUT i, STARTED i did work.

1:23:00.760 --> 1:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>HERE i was Doing shakespeare here in, Town Julius Caesar,

1:23:05.040 --> 1:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>othello did a few dramatic, plays a streetcar Named, desire Whipping,

1:23:11.360 --> 1:23:14.559
<v Speaker 1>man all of that with a rep and that enabled

1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:18.920
<v Speaker 1>me to really find my artistic, voice find my true

1:23:19.000 --> 1:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>authentic voice as in, person as a, man learning how to,

1:23:23.280 --> 1:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>write learning how to express. Myself but it was cathartic

1:23:27.080 --> 1:23:30.679
<v Speaker 1>for me to release all of. That it was, Healing

1:23:30.800 --> 1:23:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it was. Therapeutic it's not, therapy but it's therapeutic for

1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:37.799
<v Speaker 1>me to go through all of that and to express

1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>it and to really identify with what just, happened and

1:23:41.800 --> 1:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>to make sense out of it and use it for

1:23:44.720 --> 1:23:47.680
<v Speaker 1>my next. Purpose use it in my, speeches use it

1:23:47.720 --> 1:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>in my, business use it in a way to, communicate

1:23:51.520 --> 1:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and on so many different levels through, film through. Theater

1:23:55.760 --> 1:23:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And i've been blessed to the point WHERE i did

1:23:57.920 --> 1:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>perform On broadway in twenty. Sixteen that's, awesome you. Know

1:24:01.080 --> 1:24:03.839
<v Speaker 1>And i'm doing things on the front of the camera

1:24:04.560 --> 1:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>as an, actor was in Cis la And The ballers

1:24:07.560 --> 1:24:10.479
<v Speaker 1>and all of, this and it just leads itself to

1:24:11.280 --> 1:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>new opportunities of self expression and the same adrilla That

1:24:15.120 --> 1:24:17.599
<v Speaker 1>i've gotten on the. FIELD i get in theater because it's,

1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:21.719
<v Speaker 1>live it's, visceral it's it's a, team it's it's telling

1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a story and imaginary. Circumstances you have to rely on

1:24:25.120 --> 1:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the other actors to help you and you help. Them

1:24:28.000 --> 1:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's all of that and to do that

1:24:30.840 --> 1:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>night after night on A broadway. Stage And i've done

1:24:34.520 --> 1:24:39.439
<v Speaker 1>The chicago In New, york In chicago And, toronto all

1:24:39.439 --> 1:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>over the country pretty, MUCH lau and that was just

1:24:44.000 --> 1:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>an awesome experiences that could hold like being in the

1:24:46.880 --> 1:24:50.120
<v Speaker 1>locker room. Again, yeah you, know from that, perspective and

1:24:50.200 --> 1:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it was a wonderful. Experience it continues to grow and

1:24:53.040 --> 1:24:55.880
<v Speaker 1>develop in my life in so many different. Aspects, now

1:24:56.760 --> 1:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it's that experience of being on stage and being. Vulnerable,

1:25:00.320 --> 1:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>yeah you, know how'd you find? Acting acting found? Me,

1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>ACTUALLY i wanted to be able to be a better.

1:25:09.040 --> 1:25:14.559
<v Speaker 1>COMMUNICATOR i wanted. To i'm LIKE i get. Old WHEN

1:25:14.560 --> 1:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>i get into, SOMETHING i study, IT i do cross

1:25:18.080 --> 1:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>training with, IT i do all types of stuff to

1:25:20.040 --> 1:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>do best at. It and WHEN i got into, commentating

1:25:23.680 --> 1:25:26.439
<v Speaker 1>that's WHAT i wanted to. DO i wanted to be a, more,

1:25:26.960 --> 1:25:32.759
<v Speaker 1>better communicator and storyteller and just have different tools to rely.

1:25:32.880 --> 1:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>On SO i, said let me get into, acting and

1:25:36.439 --> 1:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i was still getting parts and opportunities to do.

1:25:38.680 --> 1:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>That but it wasn't UNTIL i jumped on stage THAT

1:25:42.920 --> 1:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>i really felt the bug for, like, ooh this is.

1:25:46.080 --> 1:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>DIFFERENT i mean literally going on stage for the first

1:25:50.320 --> 1:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>time is like stripping, down you, know naked and then

1:25:55.200 --> 1:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>walking out. There, YEAH i mean. Nervous were you before

1:26:01.320 --> 1:26:03.519
<v Speaker 1>the first time you go out on. Stage my first

1:26:03.600 --> 1:26:06.360
<v Speaker 1>time on stage was extremely. Nervous i'm pacing back and

1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>forth and you can't, react LIKE i can't make somebody miss,

1:26:11.000 --> 1:26:14.360
<v Speaker 1>there run somebody. Over you got to stick to the. Script,

1:26:14.720 --> 1:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah AND i completely went. BLANK i saw the bright,

1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>lights felt the, heat got stage, fright and it was all.

1:26:25.000 --> 1:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Over started making up shit on the spot and got through.

1:26:29.960 --> 1:26:34.360
<v Speaker 1>It BUT i, said you know, what that was such

1:26:35.160 --> 1:26:38.559
<v Speaker 1>a rush for, me AND i was not going to

1:26:38.560 --> 1:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>be defined or defeated by. That i'm going to go perfect.

1:26:42.000 --> 1:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>It and that's WHAT i. Did you, know that's.

1:26:43.920 --> 1:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Awesome do you feel like you took the disciplines and

1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:49.479
<v Speaker 2>the everything you learned From ball and you're, like, Yeah

1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:52.200
<v Speaker 2>i'm just going to maneuver it and put it in

1:26:52.240 --> 1:26:54.439
<v Speaker 2>a different verbiage and the same type of, practices and

1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:57.439
<v Speaker 2>without a, doubt energy and effort into this the.

1:26:57.400 --> 1:27:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Same work ethic THAT I i applied to my craft in,

1:27:01.560 --> 1:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>FOOTBALL i put it into, acting the same exact. THING

1:27:05.000 --> 1:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>i took voice, lessons, yeah you, know singing lessons to

1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>help my speaking. Voice but my, coach my acting, Coach

1:27:11.439 --> 1:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Anna Maria, franzella who's no longer with, us said you can,

1:27:14.800 --> 1:27:16.360
<v Speaker 1>sing And i'm, like well, Please just.

1:27:18.720 --> 1:27:20.559
<v Speaker 2>They KNOW i stayed in the, car in the, shower

1:27:20.680 --> 1:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>BUT i don't know about loud loud on.

1:27:23.040 --> 1:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Stage and the great thing is is that ALWAYS i

1:27:28.000 --> 1:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>could play the role Of Billy. Flynn and those are

1:27:30.080 --> 1:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>some of the songs that we practiced. With and when

1:27:32.840 --> 1:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity presented itself from me to, AUDITION i was

1:27:35.880 --> 1:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>ready for. That And i'll never forget it was in

1:27:39.200 --> 1:27:45.640
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and, fifteen fourteen it was that was, Fifteen,

1:27:46.479 --> 1:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>no it was, fourteen excuse, me twenty, fourteen going Is

1:27:49.920 --> 1:27:55.559
<v Speaker 1>November WHEN i was asked to audition AND i, said,

1:27:55.640 --> 1:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>well they asked IF i could. SING i was, like, hell,

1:27:57.720 --> 1:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i can. SING i was thinking some voice. Lessons,

1:28:00.160 --> 1:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>yeah And i'm, like oh, SHIT i gotta figure this.

1:28:04.840 --> 1:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>OUT i never sing out loud or way away from

1:28:07.080 --> 1:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the track, before but we want to figure it. Out

1:28:09.760 --> 1:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a great story one way or the.

1:28:11.280 --> 1:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Other SO i get my, fedora get a nice beautiful

1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>black suit with the damn the tie and the. Stripes

1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>everything out, Said i'm going to go in As Billy.

1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Flynn go up To New york And Bashedor theater on

1:28:26.000 --> 1:28:29.479
<v Speaker 1>thirty ninth And, broadway AND i walk in the bows

1:28:29.479 --> 1:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of the theater and Immediately i'm intimidated Because i'm thinking to,

1:28:33.640 --> 1:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>myself some great actors have performed on the. Stage, Okay

1:28:38.600 --> 1:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>i've been played with some great, venues you, Know, Baltimore,

1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:46.519
<v Speaker 1>oakland The Big, house all of. Them but this, one

1:28:46.600 --> 1:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>this little, theater was intimidating to. Me SO i go

1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>on on the. Stage some of the dancers are in,

1:28:53.800 --> 1:28:55.639
<v Speaker 1>there some of the other actors are just getting ready

1:28:55.680 --> 1:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>for the nice, performance And i'm just doing an. Audition

1:28:58.520 --> 1:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the piano player does very professional warms, up he's doing

1:29:02.439 --> 1:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the scales and And i'm just sitting there, like, okay

1:29:06.200 --> 1:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>when are we gonna? Start he, Says, okay Mister george's

1:29:08.040 --> 1:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna start from the. Top ALL i care about is

1:29:09.720 --> 1:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>love with? Key are you? In AND i was, like

1:29:13.280 --> 1:29:18.479
<v Speaker 1>THAT'S i have what? Key the key, life what type of,

1:29:18.600 --> 1:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Key let's figure it. OUT i don't. Know so we

1:29:23.760 --> 1:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>go through the, scales find my. Key then we go

1:29:26.240 --> 1:29:28.599
<v Speaker 1>and do all the care about his, love cracking notes.

1:29:28.640 --> 1:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Everywhere But i'm going all out and having a, ball

1:29:31.080 --> 1:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>having a. BLAST i go through all my sides with

1:29:34.040 --> 1:29:36.679
<v Speaker 1>the acting coach And i'm doing it And i'm just having.

1:29:36.720 --> 1:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Fun it's Being Billy flynn losing. Myself and the theater

1:29:40.000 --> 1:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>is empty and it's dark lit and his the lights

1:29:42.400 --> 1:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>are up. There and THEN i go about to go

1:29:45.240 --> 1:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>through this for about thirty minutes and Then i'm here

1:29:48.439 --> 1:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>this clapping AND i hear. This oh my, god that was.

1:29:53.240 --> 1:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Amazing it Was Barry, wisely the lead producer for the.

1:29:56.760 --> 1:30:00.599
<v Speaker 1>Show he, says let's do. It let's do. It, yeah

1:30:00.680 --> 1:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>let's do. It just come this doing On. Broadway my

1:30:03.240 --> 1:30:05.559
<v Speaker 1>people will get in touch with your. People And i'm,

1:30:05.640 --> 1:30:09.679
<v Speaker 1>like oh my. GOD i was. Hyped but he, said

1:30:09.680 --> 1:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>my people will be in touch with your. People his

1:30:12.160 --> 1:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>people did not get in touch with my. People some

1:30:14.040 --> 1:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>a year, LATER i, THOUGHT i have to washing maybe

1:30:19.760 --> 1:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>we made. It, yeah, yeah it had heard. Anything hey

1:30:23.240 --> 1:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>they called no not. YET i think it's you know,

1:30:25.080 --> 1:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Right So i'm thinking he, said all, right he's wanted

1:30:26.960 --> 1:30:28.679
<v Speaker 1>to get me to hell out the. Theater so, okay

1:30:28.680 --> 1:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>this guy was. Terrible to say something nice and get

1:30:30.880 --> 1:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>him out of. Here BUT i did it man in twenty,

1:30:33.720 --> 1:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>sixteen and been doing their shows up UNTIL covid last,

1:30:38.040 --> 1:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>year and it's been a wonderful. Experience, bro that's. Awesome, yeah,

1:30:43.120 --> 1:30:43.519
<v Speaker 1>man that's.

1:30:43.560 --> 1:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Awesome and you also say you you have a financial.

1:30:46.640 --> 1:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Business yes about. That. Yeah during the TIME i was

1:30:50.760 --> 1:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>getting ready For, BROADWAY i was gonna, say because you

1:30:53.280 --> 1:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>open this up a little bit, back didn't. You, yeah it.

1:30:57.240 --> 1:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Was it was right around the same. Time SO i

1:31:01.000 --> 1:31:05.519
<v Speaker 1>do my, audition and of, course like anything, ELSE i

1:31:05.560 --> 1:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>went and got my master's in. BUSINESS i Got, yeah

1:31:08.040 --> 1:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome, Too. Northwestern, yeah that was a wonderful. Experience

1:31:12.280 --> 1:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and. Nine SO i was looking for the

1:31:15.160 --> 1:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>bones of a business THAT i could. Grow something was

1:31:17.439 --> 1:31:22.559
<v Speaker 1>passionate about recurring, revenue had the potential to really for

1:31:22.600 --> 1:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>growth that can take it to. SCALE i had started

1:31:25.920 --> 1:31:29.679
<v Speaker 1>my own landscape architecture firm back, then and that's why

1:31:29.680 --> 1:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it inspired me to go to learn more about. Business

1:31:32.840 --> 1:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and to say the, least that wasn't where my passion.

1:31:37.160 --> 1:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Was it was more. Entrepreneurial so what wasn't where your

1:31:41.280 --> 1:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>passion was in terms of landscape. Architecture that was my

1:31:43.840 --> 1:31:48.719
<v Speaker 1>original that was my original. Business and then you realise

1:31:48.760 --> 1:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of just falling in love with the whole, creation, visuation,

1:31:51.960 --> 1:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>vision building an actual. BUSINESS i had visions of building

1:31:57.160 --> 1:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a billion, dollar big, Company that's what my goal is

1:32:00.080 --> 1:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>this but it just Wasn't it just wasn't. There i'll

1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>leave it. There SO i decided THAT i needed to

1:32:11.160 --> 1:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>find something different THAT i was passionate about THAT i,

1:32:13.040 --> 1:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>knew and finances was something that kind of resonated with

1:32:17.080 --> 1:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>me in terms of helping young men like other, athletes

1:32:21.080 --> 1:32:24.519
<v Speaker 1>avoid the pitfalls That i've seen others fall into and

1:32:24.520 --> 1:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>What i've already been through from bad business dealings to financial,

1:32:28.360 --> 1:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>advisors to the agents and so, forth teach the curriculum

1:32:32.840 --> 1:32:38.679
<v Speaker 1>WHICH i did At Ohio, state and you, know guide

1:32:38.720 --> 1:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>their financial future while building my assets under. Management so

1:32:43.479 --> 1:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>WHILE i was studying for The rule Of Billy, FLYNN

1:32:47.479 --> 1:32:49.679
<v Speaker 1>i was studying to get My series seven at the same.

1:32:49.760 --> 1:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Time AND i remember having the. CHOICE i was, like.

1:32:54.200 --> 1:32:56.599
<v Speaker 1>DAMN i was, conflicted, like, damn how AM i going

1:32:56.600 --> 1:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>to get ready for to go On broadway to perform

1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>on The broadway stage while Also i'm getting in the

1:33:04.720 --> 1:33:07.559
<v Speaker 1>middle of getting My serious Seven and GRANTED i already

1:33:07.560 --> 1:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>invested my time into getting my sixty, six sixty five

1:33:11.120 --> 1:33:13.479
<v Speaker 1>all that, Stuff AND i, SAID i have to make

1:33:13.479 --> 1:33:16.479
<v Speaker 1>a decision on WHAT i want to do UNTIL i

1:33:16.520 --> 1:33:19.439
<v Speaker 1>thought to, MYSELF i, said, well, shit let me do.

1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Both and that's exactly WHAT i. DID i would study

1:33:23.160 --> 1:33:25.639
<v Speaker 1>my for My serious seven in the, morning take. Tests,

1:33:26.640 --> 1:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>AFTERNOON i would go and study with my acting, coach

1:33:30.200 --> 1:33:33.439
<v Speaker 1>songs and, script come right back that, night do another

1:33:33.479 --> 1:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>test or, two go to bit and do that for

1:33:35.400 --> 1:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>four months. Straight BECAUSE i was determined to turn my

1:33:40.280 --> 1:33:44.559
<v Speaker 1>platform into, education, entrepreneurship and, entertainment AND i can do

1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>all of them, simultaneous, simultaneously and that's what it. Is

1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>So i've developed my wealth management business To Edward George

1:33:51.920 --> 1:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Wealth Management. GROUP i have two other. PARTNERS i focus

1:33:56.240 --> 1:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>on high network individuals a few. Athletes foundations work with

1:34:00.760 --> 1:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>specialty groups in terms of maintaining and preserving their wealth

1:34:05.360 --> 1:34:10.280
<v Speaker 1>through different platforms independent. Firm And i'm also again teaching

1:34:11.560 --> 1:34:14.479
<v Speaker 1>young athletes that are aspiring to be in our position one.

1:34:14.520 --> 1:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Day the case studies on what the lookout for in

1:34:19.360 --> 1:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>terms of bad business dealings and bad bad advisors and

1:34:23.520 --> 1:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>how to vet out a financial. Advisor how much you

1:34:25.880 --> 1:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>pay your financial, advisor if you if you pay him?

1:34:29.360 --> 1:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Exactly and how.

1:34:30.160 --> 1:34:32.680
<v Speaker 2>This says in the, Beginning, yeah, right you know What i'm,

1:34:32.680 --> 1:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>saying hidden cost, fees all that stuff's actually.

1:34:35.439 --> 1:34:37.479
<v Speaker 1>So what is how do you how do you? Pay

1:34:37.520 --> 1:34:40.320
<v Speaker 1>how he gets paid through? Commission he gets paid there's

1:34:40.360 --> 1:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a rap, Fee but what's that rap? Fee and? All

1:34:43.120 --> 1:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>what does he have you? In where's your four one k?

1:34:45.800 --> 1:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Going do you have? Insurance? Oh how can you use your?

1:34:48.840 --> 1:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Insurance you know What i'm, saying you can Use there

1:34:51.760 --> 1:34:54.519
<v Speaker 1>are certain benefits you can use for your insurance as a,

1:34:54.560 --> 1:34:58.720
<v Speaker 1>BANK i mean just little things that can help you put,

1:34:58.800 --> 1:35:02.599
<v Speaker 1>yourself put the eating a seat of power versus lending

1:35:02.640 --> 1:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>their power over to somebody that says they have their

1:35:04.680 --> 1:35:07.439
<v Speaker 1>best interest in. Mind and the only thing that you

1:35:07.600 --> 1:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>have that you can rely on is the trust. Factor

1:35:11.479 --> 1:35:13.559
<v Speaker 1>he's going to do the right thing and how it's.

1:35:13.560 --> 1:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Structure so all of those, things and.

1:35:15.200 --> 1:35:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Those dudes when you're sitting across room at the table

1:35:17.080 --> 1:35:19.479
<v Speaker 2>when you were a young cat and they got the

1:35:19.479 --> 1:35:22.160
<v Speaker 2>whole script to kind of, script you, know the background

1:35:22.200 --> 1:35:24.320
<v Speaker 2>they went to where you're just, like, oh this makes

1:35:24.320 --> 1:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>sense for me as an. Athlete and then next, thing you,

1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:30.800
<v Speaker 2>know like guys are vocal that, Hey i'm always walking, like,

1:35:30.840 --> 1:35:34.040
<v Speaker 2>hey it's a fact that seventy to eighty percent of

1:35:34.080 --> 1:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>guys go bankrupt within five years of playing in THE.

1:35:36.479 --> 1:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Nfl from that thirty for, Thirty hey all of, Us hey,

1:35:39.200 --> 1:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>boys all of us in.

1:35:40.000 --> 1:35:41.439
<v Speaker 2>Here i'll be in the locker. Room, hey all of

1:35:41.520 --> 1:35:43.840
<v Speaker 2>us in here ain't making it after five? Years, Right

1:35:44.080 --> 1:35:45.919
<v Speaker 2>and you, know because you see guys.

1:35:45.720 --> 1:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Come in with new, chains you do all, this do all.

1:35:48.120 --> 1:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>That but you know that's that's awesome that you. STARTED

1:35:51.240 --> 1:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>i had no. Idea, yeah do you are you?

1:35:53.960 --> 1:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Pretty are you pretty engaged with like does THE pa

1:35:58.400 --> 1:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>reach out to?

1:35:58.880 --> 1:35:58.960
<v Speaker 3>You?

1:35:59.000 --> 1:36:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Like are you engaged with the? Player were able to educate? Kids? Yeah,

1:36:03.680 --> 1:36:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Well i've been. TEACHING i was teaching At Ohio state

1:36:06.720 --> 1:36:09.519
<v Speaker 1>for the last five years the business and professional, sports

1:36:09.880 --> 1:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>AND i brought in somebody from that makes it the

1:36:13.439 --> 1:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>entire business front, OFFICE gm, agent Financial, ADVISOR, nflpa someone

1:36:21.880 --> 1:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>from the league, offices and they talk about their, Functions

1:36:25.520 --> 1:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you talk about our job, descriptions what they, do how

1:36:29.240 --> 1:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>they look at, athletes how they look at the. Sports

1:36:31.160 --> 1:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>so you can get a well rounded view of how

1:36:34.160 --> 1:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>we are a commodity and not necessarily a. Person and

1:36:38.000 --> 1:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>then you begin to see how, easy if you do things,

1:36:41.439 --> 1:36:44.760
<v Speaker 1>right how easy it is to go financially. Broke.

1:36:45.680 --> 1:36:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Right you know what you had to quote that resonated with.

1:36:47.720 --> 1:36:50.639
<v Speaker 2>ME i heard you on a. Podcast it was you

1:36:50.680 --> 1:36:53.400
<v Speaker 2>helped me. Out it's like something about gross and. Net

1:36:53.479 --> 1:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>you live by the grocer'll die by the. NET i

1:36:55.200 --> 1:36:57.800
<v Speaker 2>think that's where lived by the, Gross you'll die by the.

1:36:57.840 --> 1:37:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Net. Yeah so if you think that what we see

1:37:01.720 --> 1:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>on television in terms of free agents signing one hundred

1:37:04.880 --> 1:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>million dollar, deal, yeah the ticker that come, across is

1:37:07.160 --> 1:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>it really one hundred? Million, no, exactly we do that,

1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Right so it's, pulling you, know the smoking mirrors behind

1:37:15.720 --> 1:37:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's a significant amount of. Money but understanding the tax,

1:37:20.240 --> 1:37:24.479
<v Speaker 1>bracker you're going Into Uncle sam's going to get his, cut,

1:37:24.800 --> 1:37:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Right your agent gets his and it's still a good.

1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Nut but is it a good is that generational? Wealth

1:37:34.240 --> 1:37:37.439
<v Speaker 1>it's a good start to generational wealth if it's handled.

1:37:37.479 --> 1:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Appropriately the guy that cut the, check that's generational. Wealth

1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you know What i'm. Saying so there's a. Difference SO

1:37:45.640 --> 1:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>i wanted. PEOPLE i wanted others outside the, business or

1:37:49.120 --> 1:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>even kids that are getting into the business to realize

1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>That i'm just starting with. This the end goal is not.

1:37:56.080 --> 1:37:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Now now is not the time to buy A lamborghini

1:37:58.680 --> 1:38:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and five, houses you know across the country from my

1:38:01.760 --> 1:38:04.799
<v Speaker 1>mom and, dad thinking THAT i have one hundred million

1:38:04.840 --> 1:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>dollars now you. Don't you probably got twenty five of.

1:38:08.120 --> 1:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>That but guess what if you keep spending ten it

1:38:11.160 --> 1:38:14.280
<v Speaker 1>chunks into that and you realize that your next egg

1:38:14.360 --> 1:38:16.240
<v Speaker 1>that you have is down next to. Nothing when you,

1:38:16.320 --> 1:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>retire you're better, off you, know starting, small rent the

1:38:21.960 --> 1:38:26.439
<v Speaker 1>first couple of, years establish your INVESTOR, dna get the

1:38:26.520 --> 1:38:29.639
<v Speaker 1>right advisors around. You you don't have to hit for home,

1:38:29.720 --> 1:38:34.320
<v Speaker 1>runs you, know manufacture runs base hits every. Day find

1:38:34.360 --> 1:38:39.800
<v Speaker 1>something that's going to bring, you say a safety. Net

1:38:40.080 --> 1:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to have something that's going to preserve your

1:38:41.760 --> 1:38:44.439
<v Speaker 1>wealth and something that's going to generate your wealth those three,

1:38:44.439 --> 1:38:46.519
<v Speaker 1>buckets and how are you going to do? That you

1:38:46.600 --> 1:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>know What i'm, saying that's the. Philosophy so don't feel

1:38:50.200 --> 1:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>like you have to go be the lead investor for

1:38:53.240 --> 1:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a real estate project and you're the bank. Guy they're

1:38:56.800 --> 1:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>been depending on you to the fund their. Dream that's

1:38:58.880 --> 1:39:01.559
<v Speaker 1>where you go. Wrong i've seen, it you, know time

1:39:01.600 --> 1:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and time again with with athletes THAT i played, with played.

1:39:05.240 --> 1:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Against how we get sucked into that because we just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know you don't. Know guys just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know and you you use the example of a hundred,

1:39:13.080 --> 1:39:16.200
<v Speaker 2>million one hundred million dollar guy like those guys that's

1:39:16.240 --> 1:39:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the one percent of the one percent in THE. Nfl

1:39:18.320 --> 1:39:21.479
<v Speaker 2>majority of guys are you, know journeyman like, myself or

1:39:21.479 --> 1:39:23.640
<v Speaker 2>they're making you, know those smaller contracts throughout their.

1:39:23.680 --> 1:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Career but you still have those same those those same.

1:39:30.320 --> 1:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Distractions off of the field because they think you're the you,

1:39:34.680 --> 1:39:37.120
<v Speaker 2>know everybody's, saying, hey once you're in THE, nfl you',

1:39:37.240 --> 1:39:39.200
<v Speaker 2>hey once you get the shield on, you there's a

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<v Speaker 2>target on. You so it doesn't matter if you're making

1:39:41.600 --> 1:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>the hundred million or you're making the minimum like everyone thinks, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh you made.

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<v Speaker 1>It you're, rich you're, that and it's just it's not the.

1:39:49.880 --> 1:39:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Case and how do you go about when guys want

1:39:53.479 --> 1:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>to sit you down or pick your brain or you

1:39:54.960 --> 1:39:58.240
<v Speaker 2>go and. Speak how do you speak to those guys

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that like a fundamental change can happen

1:40:02.479 --> 1:40:03.880
<v Speaker 2>or a shift can happen for.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody, WELL i just try to be authentic and tell

1:40:05.960 --> 1:40:09.400
<v Speaker 1>them the, truth be as transparent AS i can, be

1:40:10.000 --> 1:40:12.919
<v Speaker 1>based off my, experience my first what's your worst.

1:40:12.760 --> 1:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Experience that you can teach? Somebody you're like, this this

1:40:15.880 --> 1:40:16.880
<v Speaker 2>is what happened with me.

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<v Speaker 1>WHEN i first got into THE. Nfl WHEN i first

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<v Speaker 1>signed on the dotted line to get my, check it

1:40:22.400 --> 1:40:27.280
<v Speaker 1>was my signing, bonus and my agent pulls me, aside

1:40:27.360 --> 1:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>tells me that the guy THAT i chose my financial,

1:40:30.240 --> 1:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>advisor is hearing bad things about him AND i shouldn't

1:40:33.080 --> 1:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>put my money with. Them long story, SHORT i tell

1:40:36.400 --> 1:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>my mom to take the money and go To philadelphia

1:40:39.640 --> 1:40:42.599
<v Speaker 1>putting in the. Bank let's let's see what. Happens two days,

1:40:42.680 --> 1:40:44.759
<v Speaker 1>LATER i get the phone call from THE fbi saying

1:40:45.320 --> 1:40:48.639
<v Speaker 1>or from the bank saying that they this gentleman tried

1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to pull money out of the. Account well no money was,

1:40:51.200 --> 1:40:54.240
<v Speaker 1>there thank, god because he was caught going To South

1:40:54.280 --> 1:41:00.360
<v Speaker 1>america with for investment and running A ponzi. Scheme no,

1:41:00.520 --> 1:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>shit no, shit first time, out so immediately out the.

1:41:04.439 --> 1:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Gate this guy was a smooth, talker had everybody on his,

1:41:08.439 --> 1:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>list you, know from, entertainers different. Athletes it was a,

1:41:12.120 --> 1:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>boutique set up a. SHOP i remember him trying to

1:41:14.840 --> 1:41:17.519
<v Speaker 1>get me to sign a power attorney so he could

1:41:17.600 --> 1:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>legally move the. Money you see What i'm. Saying so

1:41:22.800 --> 1:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>he got me a, loan BUT i never signed. It

1:41:25.760 --> 1:41:29.599
<v Speaker 1>so those are the things THAT i just, recall and

1:41:30.000 --> 1:41:33.799
<v Speaker 1>is a bunch of. Others they come in different shape,

1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:37.479
<v Speaker 1>sizes The agos of the WORLD i call, them you,

1:41:37.560 --> 1:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>know in terms Of, shakespeare The. Agos they appear to

1:41:41.120 --> 1:41:45.320
<v Speaker 1>be your, friend but they have a different aultorious motive behind.

1:41:45.360 --> 1:41:49.599
<v Speaker 1>You you, know incentives drive. Behavior it always. Does so

1:41:49.840 --> 1:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>if somebody is around you, questioned why are they around?

1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>You why are they catering to? You what is their ulterior?

1:41:57.200 --> 1:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Motive and if you're leaning on that person for information

1:42:01.840 --> 1:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>or to be the business, guy that's not a wise.

1:42:05.040 --> 1:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Choice you really need to understand the language how contracts

1:42:09.400 --> 1:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>are set, up how LLCs are set up all of

1:42:13.200 --> 1:42:16.320
<v Speaker 1>this stuff so you're not burnt in the end of

1:42:16.400 --> 1:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>holding the, bag so to. Speak so that's that's.

1:42:19.400 --> 1:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>It He any young cats listening that have aspirations to

1:42:22.960 --> 1:42:24.839
<v Speaker 2>go to the league that might be in college, Listening

1:42:25.600 --> 1:42:27.120
<v Speaker 2>look up A george's financial.

1:42:27.160 --> 1:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Firm, yeah The Edward George Wealth Management. Group, yeah ed

1:42:29.840 --> 1:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>what is? It Edward? George, Well Edward. George, okay that's

1:42:33.120 --> 1:42:36.280
<v Speaker 1>your first, Name. Edward, YES i love. It what's the ultimate?

1:42:36.320 --> 1:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Goal when you say this is kind of a this

1:42:39.040 --> 1:42:41.240
<v Speaker 2>is kind of something to help propel me to the ultimate.

1:42:41.280 --> 1:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Goal what is an ultimate goal of yours that you

1:42:42.920 --> 1:42:44.599
<v Speaker 1>have in? Mind do you want to own a team one? Day,

1:42:45.280 --> 1:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>no that's that's just you've talked about a couple of

1:42:47.680 --> 1:42:50.439
<v Speaker 1>checks the, TIMES i, mean my my couple of. Hints

1:42:50.640 --> 1:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what my goal is to create and build wealthy,

1:42:57.840 --> 1:43:02.559
<v Speaker 1>individuals and not just in terms of dollar, value but

1:43:03.280 --> 1:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>in terms of, character in terms of. Principles that's that's

1:43:07.960 --> 1:43:10.720
<v Speaker 1>what my calling is at this point in, time is

1:43:10.800 --> 1:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to develop young people or people to become, entrepreneurs but

1:43:15.240 --> 1:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurs with a purpose and and and to find their.

1:43:19.200 --> 1:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Calling you, know in this. Life that's that's what's driving me.

1:43:23.040 --> 1:43:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Now and that's done through uh my entrepreneurship aspirations in

1:43:28.600 --> 1:43:37.919
<v Speaker 1>wealth management and through insurance platforms, too to help others

1:43:38.080 --> 1:43:44.519
<v Speaker 1>again achieve entrepreneurship to help their lives and the lives

1:43:44.560 --> 1:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>of others generation generational.

1:43:46.600 --> 1:43:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Study it sounds like some mentorship exactly, exactly not just you,

1:43:51.040 --> 1:43:54.720
<v Speaker 2>know you make, money they make money money there there

1:43:54.800 --> 1:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>is exactly working one on one with the. Individual understand that

1:44:00.000 --> 1:44:03.200
<v Speaker 2>whoever's under, you they're part of like this this.

1:44:03.280 --> 1:44:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Fraternity, exactly, yeah. Exactly so that's that's What i'm, creating

1:44:07.520 --> 1:44:11.519
<v Speaker 1>and buy product of that will lead to to, wealth

1:44:11.680 --> 1:44:14.280
<v Speaker 1>right and and but that's not the end. Goal but

1:44:15.120 --> 1:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>If i'm in a position to be to be an

1:44:16.960 --> 1:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>owner one, day damn. Right everything happens for a, reason that's.

1:44:23.280 --> 1:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Right SO i finished our team left left with that

1:44:27.840 --> 1:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>one yard. Short i'm gonna hold up A Lombardi trophy one.

1:44:31.200 --> 1:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>DAY i am going to hold one. Up, hey you're hearing.

1:44:33.760 --> 1:44:37.960
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<v Speaker 1>KNOW i kind of want.

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<v Speaker 1>No i'm gonna do. This so that's that's what my goals.

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<v Speaker 2>DOWNSTAIRS i hope you guys are enjoying this Phenomenal Eddie george. Episode,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah let's finish.

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<v Speaker 1>It? Yeah DID i love? It?

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<v Speaker 2>Man let's talk a Little. Titans how are you feeling

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<v Speaker 2>about the boys this?

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<v Speaker 1>Year it's hard to figure out about the, boys because,

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<v Speaker 1>damn is it going to be a? SEASON i think.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't you think there's gonna be? One don't you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's at least that is going to. START i

1:47:51.160 --> 1:47:55.400
<v Speaker 1>hope it's. SUSTAINABLE i think there's done a nice job

1:47:54.360 --> 1:48:01.519
<v Speaker 1>of keeping everything at. Bay the protocols are. Tight no

1:48:01.560 --> 1:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>one can come into the. FACILITY i, mean we hadn't

1:48:04.240 --> 1:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>heard any cases of guys catching. Anything that's been. Great

1:48:09.760 --> 1:48:13.120
<v Speaker 1>now it's a question of when they begin to, travel

1:48:13.520 --> 1:48:15.800
<v Speaker 1>how that's going to. Operate right right once they said

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<v Speaker 1>on a, plane go to another. Hotel so assuming let's

1:48:18.600 --> 1:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>just assume the. Best, okay we're optimistic. Here they. LIKE

1:48:24.120 --> 1:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>i like the makeup of the. TEAM i like the.

1:48:26.200 --> 1:48:29.800
<v Speaker 1>CHEMISTRY i like the fact that they play for each.

1:48:29.800 --> 1:48:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Other there's genuine love. There they have an. Identity, DEFENSIVELY

1:48:36.240 --> 1:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>i want to see What Vic beasley Is Vic, beasley, right,

1:48:39.080 --> 1:48:41.320
<v Speaker 1>YES i want to see what he brings to the

1:48:41.360 --> 1:48:44.240
<v Speaker 1>table from the. PAST i think they need a premiere past,

1:48:44.360 --> 1:48:46.519
<v Speaker 1>rusher AND i thought that going into last season they

1:48:46.520 --> 1:48:51.639
<v Speaker 1>needed somebody that can disrupt the quarterback with just getting

1:48:51.680 --> 1:48:55.639
<v Speaker 1>a four man. Rush of, Course Derrick henry Is Dereck.

1:48:55.720 --> 1:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>HENRY i like the new kid From Appalachian date the running.

1:49:01.120 --> 1:49:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Back oh, Yeah. Evans he's going to be a utility

1:49:05.320 --> 1:49:07.759
<v Speaker 1>guy that they can rely on the return game short

1:49:07.840 --> 1:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and also as a third down guy In, TANDYHILL i.

1:49:11.960 --> 1:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Am i'm curious to see if he can now take over.

1:49:16.080 --> 1:49:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Games you, know it's one thing to manage your game

1:49:19.720 --> 1:49:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and handle twenty two and let's your line lean on the. Team,

1:49:23.160 --> 1:49:27.240
<v Speaker 1>now when they line. Up, okay nine in the box

1:49:27.479 --> 1:49:30.559
<v Speaker 1>and we've seen it last year nine in the. Box

1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>we're committed now to Stopping derek and he cannot beat.

1:49:34.080 --> 1:49:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Us how Is Tandy hill going to do? It you, know?

1:49:37.520 --> 1:49:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Consistently AND i think he can do. It he's put

1:49:39.720 --> 1:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the ball. There so saying all of, that they have

1:49:42.800 --> 1:49:45.280
<v Speaker 1>everything they need, Offensively john New smith is going to

1:49:45.280 --> 1:49:49.280
<v Speaker 1>be a. SUPERSTAR i love the. RECEIVERS Aj brown is

1:49:49.320 --> 1:49:52.559
<v Speaker 1>going to be a. Superstar so they have levels to

1:49:52.640 --> 1:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>their offense that they're multi dimensional and it's going to

1:49:56.600 --> 1:50:00.120
<v Speaker 1>be tough to compete with. That And Mike vrabel is

1:50:00.120 --> 1:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a phenomenal how what was the year of separation? There

1:50:05.200 --> 1:50:12.639
<v Speaker 1>this one year amate he was an? Asshole he is an,

1:50:12.720 --> 1:50:16.680
<v Speaker 1>asshole but an asshole you love and when you when

1:50:16.680 --> 1:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>he's on your, squad that's the asshole that you want

1:50:19.680 --> 1:50:21.800
<v Speaker 1>because he's going to knock you in the mouth and

1:50:22.200 --> 1:50:24.599
<v Speaker 1>talk about you and and and do everything he. Needs

1:50:24.680 --> 1:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he's going to tell you just exactly how he, feels you, Know.

1:50:28.360 --> 1:50:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Mike mike was a damn freshman calling out. Upperclassmen you're

1:50:34.200 --> 1:50:37.559
<v Speaker 1>not you're not you're not touching the, line you, know

1:50:38.479 --> 1:50:41.840
<v Speaker 1>sprints or you're going. HALFWAY i, mean he'll call your ass.

1:50:41.920 --> 1:50:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Out and that's that's how he operates who he is?

1:50:45.560 --> 1:50:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Now is that, too because he's the same. Person he's

1:50:48.320 --> 1:50:50.800
<v Speaker 2>still trying to hit somebody in the. Mouth as a,

1:50:50.840 --> 1:50:52.160
<v Speaker 2>coach he, loves.

1:50:51.880 --> 1:50:56.320
<v Speaker 1>He loves the, contact he loves, teaching he loves, mentoring

1:50:56.600 --> 1:51:00.360
<v Speaker 1>he loves to create a winning. Product so you throw

1:51:00.400 --> 1:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>all that into the. Mix and What Amy adams is

1:51:02.960 --> 1:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>doing And John, robinson what they're doing this they're on

1:51:06.040 --> 1:51:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the they're on the road to some great some great.

1:51:08.320 --> 1:51:09.120
<v Speaker 1>THINGS i think so.

1:51:09.200 --> 1:51:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Too what's been what's been your favorite off season? Move

1:51:12.600 --> 1:51:16.000
<v Speaker 2>obviously they've brought a lot of pieces back the, draft.

1:51:15.880 --> 1:51:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Free, agency their own. Guys which one's been your favorite? Move,

1:51:20.520 --> 1:51:23.719
<v Speaker 1>well it's tough to say my favorite right now because

1:51:24.280 --> 1:51:27.439
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna need a, Favorite we're gonna need a preseason. Favorite,

1:51:27.479 --> 1:51:29.679
<v Speaker 1>well here's the thing, IS i haven't seen him, yet

1:51:29.800 --> 1:51:34.559
<v Speaker 1>AND i THINK i think the draft choice out Of

1:51:34.600 --> 1:51:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Wilson Isaiah.

1:51:36.080 --> 1:51:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Wilson oh, yeah ye, hey he's a big motherfucker.

1:51:40.400 --> 1:51:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Dude oh he's a. Problem, yes he's a problem in

1:51:45.439 --> 1:51:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the trenches and you're throwing, Now derek's got some help

1:51:49.800 --> 1:51:54.040
<v Speaker 1>there another another mauler in between the. Tackles oh my,

1:51:54.240 --> 1:51:56.400
<v Speaker 1>god it's going to be nasty in. There.

1:51:56.479 --> 1:51:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Man, HEY i was surprised you said. That IF i

1:51:58.600 --> 1:52:00.439
<v Speaker 2>figured you would have said the hen are you getting?

1:52:00.439 --> 1:52:01.880
<v Speaker 1>This? Uh that's what.

1:52:01.920 --> 1:52:04.479
<v Speaker 2>Happened, Yeah but did you know that the whole, time

1:52:04.520 --> 1:52:06.479
<v Speaker 2>even when it was getting it's still gonna.

1:52:06.479 --> 1:52:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Happen maybe you might have. Knew you might have known per. Source,

1:52:09.880 --> 1:52:12.280
<v Speaker 1>no you never known this. Business but they would have

1:52:12.280 --> 1:52:16.639
<v Speaker 1>been foolish not to do. It and you, know they

1:52:16.720 --> 1:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>found the win. Win they were going to figure it.

1:52:19.000 --> 1:52:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Out you, know The titans like to operate right close

1:52:22.240 --> 1:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>to the. Edge, yeah put time and pressure on the,

1:52:24.800 --> 1:52:27.240
<v Speaker 1>athlete you know WHAT i. Mean they don't want To

1:52:27.840 --> 1:52:30.479
<v Speaker 1>they want to get the most out of. It they

1:52:30.479 --> 1:52:34.280
<v Speaker 1>want to arder than, negotiation the art, negotiation and they

1:52:34.360 --> 1:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>want an organizational friendly. Deal and that's you. KNOW i

1:52:38.080 --> 1:52:41.200
<v Speaker 1>think they found the win win. There SO i figured

1:52:41.200 --> 1:52:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that they had to Get derek signed and were going

1:52:43.400 --> 1:52:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to get him. Signed and it was a four year. Deal,

1:52:48.080 --> 1:52:50.679
<v Speaker 1>yes it turns out probably could be a three year

1:52:50.920 --> 1:52:52.880
<v Speaker 1>somewhere around there where he's. AT i want to say

1:52:52.880 --> 1:52:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the first two are pretty, guaranteed and that third year

1:52:55.960 --> 1:52:59.800
<v Speaker 1>is kind of. Iffy the funny money comes Into, Yeah

1:53:00.000 --> 1:53:02.920
<v Speaker 1>i'm so guarantees about nineteen eight twenty one million or

1:53:02.920 --> 1:53:06.280
<v Speaker 1>something like. That so, YEAH i think it's a win. Win.

1:53:06.520 --> 1:53:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah who's who would you say is your favorite player

1:53:10.240 --> 1:53:15.000
<v Speaker 2>on The? Titans, WOW i want to Say mine is

1:53:15.040 --> 1:53:18.240
<v Speaker 2>turning into A. J. Brown that's what mine turned. Into

1:53:18.560 --> 1:53:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Delaney walker WHEN i was on the. TEAM i Loved.

1:53:20.479 --> 1:53:22.559
<v Speaker 2>DELANEY i love being Around. Delaney he was kind of

1:53:22.600 --> 1:53:25.280
<v Speaker 2>just my. FAVORITE i just always, like, yeah, right well my.

1:53:25.280 --> 1:53:27.240
<v Speaker 2>FAVORITE i think mine is becoming A. J. Brown we've

1:53:27.240 --> 1:53:30.080
<v Speaker 2>had him on the. Pod, Yeah i've seen him a

1:53:30.080 --> 1:53:33.280
<v Speaker 2>couple other times FaceTime With, taylor and he's JUST i

1:53:33.280 --> 1:53:37.040
<v Speaker 2>think he's. Hilarious but he's just got that that YOUNG

1:53:37.640 --> 1:53:41.480
<v Speaker 2>i don't know that it takes no shit. Attitude and he's. Confident,

1:53:41.760 --> 1:53:45.600
<v Speaker 2>yeah he's insanely. Confident and he's a. Worker he was

1:53:45.680 --> 1:53:48.120
<v Speaker 2>like that AS i, mean coming in, RIGHT i mean he.

1:53:48.280 --> 1:53:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Was he was pissed off about something he did in

1:53:51.920 --> 1:53:52.920
<v Speaker 2>practice was real.

1:53:53.040 --> 1:53:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Small i'm, like, duh it's not even got. Time, yeah

1:53:58.160 --> 1:54:02.519
<v Speaker 1>but that said he was he. Was he. Was he

1:54:02.600 --> 1:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>was a. Man and the fact that he called your, Boy.

1:54:04.960 --> 1:54:07.080
<v Speaker 1>TAYLOR i know they were talking about it on him

1:54:08.160 --> 1:54:12.679
<v Speaker 1>again a, Rookie that's What i'm, saying calling out not

1:54:12.800 --> 1:54:17.479
<v Speaker 1>just the big dog the, line the, richest the highest

1:54:17.479 --> 1:54:21.559
<v Speaker 1>paid player on The, titans right. Yo and still talking

1:54:21.600 --> 1:54:23.600
<v Speaker 1>about it when he's on the pod, like, yeah you

1:54:23.640 --> 1:54:27.360
<v Speaker 1>know you. Was he was on some. Ship, HEY i love.

1:54:27.400 --> 1:54:29.719
<v Speaker 1>IT i Love the only THING.

1:54:29.640 --> 1:54:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like caring about him is that he was

1:54:31.439 --> 1:54:33.560
<v Speaker 2>one of those rookies who he was too prideful to

1:54:33.560 --> 1:54:34.040
<v Speaker 2>do rookie.

1:54:34.080 --> 1:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Stuff, see he had the kind of that asshole. Mentality it's,

1:54:37.520 --> 1:54:40.760
<v Speaker 1>like hey, man it's this part of the. Deal how

1:54:40.760 --> 1:54:43.240
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about that? Stuff you got to pay your?

1:54:43.320 --> 1:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Dues you got to pay your. Dues and and the

1:54:45.960 --> 1:54:50.240
<v Speaker 1>fact that that he had success last, year LIKE i,

1:54:50.360 --> 1:54:54.040
<v Speaker 1>know kind of defeats it a little, bit but you,

1:54:54.080 --> 1:54:57.360
<v Speaker 1>know he'll beat that. Veteran he is that. Veteran now

1:54:57.560 --> 1:55:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it's quickly becoming a vet that that he, Wished, like you,

1:55:01.600 --> 1:55:03.440
<v Speaker 1>know you got to follow a protocol and that young

1:55:03.480 --> 1:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>hot rookie is gonna come in there and and show.

1:55:06.240 --> 1:55:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Him BUT i like A. J. BROWN i think he's

1:55:08.600 --> 1:55:12.800
<v Speaker 1>got tremendous. UPSIDE i like him as a. Person BUT

1:55:12.840 --> 1:55:15.320
<v Speaker 1>i do LIKE i Like Johnny smith, THOUGH i think

1:55:15.360 --> 1:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>he has a chance to be really.

1:55:17.240 --> 1:55:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Good, really, yeah you don't think, So, NO i think

1:55:21.240 --> 1:55:24.680
<v Speaker 2>some Big Johnny smith hearing somebody else say, that call

1:55:24.760 --> 1:55:27.880
<v Speaker 2>the superstar and give him respect like. That it's kind

1:55:27.880 --> 1:55:29.680
<v Speaker 2>of a new thing THAT i feel like is going

1:55:29.720 --> 1:55:31.600
<v Speaker 2>to come in the. Future but why do you think?

1:55:31.640 --> 1:55:34.200
<v Speaker 1>So WHEN i saw what it actually happens dot THE

1:55:34.400 --> 1:55:38.520
<v Speaker 1>i take a tall sweep down the right sideline for

1:55:38.760 --> 1:55:45.320
<v Speaker 1>sylbral seventy something, Yards i'm, like, What let go throw

1:55:45.400 --> 1:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>him back, there let him get let him get some

1:55:48.200 --> 1:55:52.120
<v Speaker 1>tokees With, derek let him split. That. Man the dudes got. Skills, Man,

1:55:52.480 --> 1:55:55.760
<v Speaker 1>yeah if we're a tight, END i mean that is, remarkable,

1:55:56.400 --> 1:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>athletic fast, hands, attitude all of he's got the. BUILD i,

1:56:01.440 --> 1:56:05.560
<v Speaker 1>MEAN i, LIKE i, LIKE i like him moving. FORWARD

1:56:05.640 --> 1:56:08.440
<v Speaker 1>i really like his. STYLE i like what he brings

1:56:08.440 --> 1:56:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to the. Offense he makes them multi. Dimensional now in

1:56:12.080 --> 1:56:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the, field, right because if you control

1:56:14.400 --> 1:56:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the, field it opens up. Everything with

1:56:17.440 --> 1:56:19.280
<v Speaker 1>a tight end that can stretch, it that can do it,

1:56:19.360 --> 1:56:22.600
<v Speaker 1>all it opens up the outside certainly is going to

1:56:22.640 --> 1:56:25.840
<v Speaker 1>present problems for a. Defense, down, Like, okay we really

1:56:25.880 --> 1:56:28.080
<v Speaker 1>can't stack the box like this because we've got a

1:56:28.120 --> 1:56:31.320
<v Speaker 1>tight end that can go vertical on. You we got

1:56:31.360 --> 1:56:34.720
<v Speaker 1>a receiver that's ridiculous and easy. Breast so they got some,

1:56:34.800 --> 1:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>options they've got some, weapons and they have some studs.

1:56:37.600 --> 1:56:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Man and you, know another another thing that will play

1:56:41.160 --> 1:56:43.960
<v Speaker 2>in their favor is knowing That Arthur smith is back

1:56:44.000 --> 1:56:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and they kind of have the same. Offense, yep you,

1:56:46.960 --> 1:56:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Know rave obviously still, there but they get to be

1:56:49.280 --> 1:56:52.280
<v Speaker 2>in the system again after going to AN afc. CHAMPIONSHIP

1:56:52.440 --> 1:56:54.960
<v Speaker 2>i think like that's gonna benefit then because people with

1:56:55.040 --> 1:56:57.680
<v Speaker 2>new head, coaches younger, teams stuff like. That, like especially

1:56:57.680 --> 1:56:59.320
<v Speaker 2>in times like, this you just don't know how the

1:56:59.400 --> 1:57:02.240
<v Speaker 2>year is gonna play. OUT i think they're they can

1:57:02.280 --> 1:57:05.360
<v Speaker 2>come and not miss a beat as much as any

1:57:05.600 --> 1:57:07.160
<v Speaker 2>team out, there and the fact.

1:57:08.160 --> 1:57:12.720
<v Speaker 1>And nationally everybody of Course Kansas, city but when you're

1:57:12.760 --> 1:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about The, south it's got to Be. Tennessee but

1:57:16.520 --> 1:57:19.480
<v Speaker 1>they're still talking about The colts and, This and Then i'm,

1:57:19.520 --> 1:57:23.800
<v Speaker 1>like all, Right, houston, Yeah houston. TOO i, mean they

1:57:23.880 --> 1:57:27.440
<v Speaker 1>they they they. Are they're an interesting. GROUP i just

1:57:27.480 --> 1:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>don't THINK i don't think they have the. DISCIPLINE i

1:57:29.760 --> 1:57:32.040
<v Speaker 1>don't THINK i think they like the. Discipline you, know

1:57:32.200 --> 1:57:35.800
<v Speaker 1>we talk about we look at. Teams you start to

1:57:36.800 --> 1:57:39.600
<v Speaker 1>talent is always every team in the league is, talented

1:57:40.400 --> 1:57:42.480
<v Speaker 1>but you start looking at the makeup of a, team

1:57:42.600 --> 1:57:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the character of the, team the little things that will

1:57:46.240 --> 1:57:50.360
<v Speaker 1>separate you from being just good. Average and the greatest

1:57:50.400 --> 1:57:53.680
<v Speaker 1>teams are the ones that can self discipline in their locker,

1:57:53.760 --> 1:57:57.240
<v Speaker 1>rooms who their leaders. Are AND i don't know If

1:57:57.320 --> 1:58:00.480
<v Speaker 1>houston has. THAT i Know Deshaun watsons a grown, man

1:58:01.480 --> 1:58:05.000
<v Speaker 1>but outside of, him who else is? There you, KNOW

1:58:05.040 --> 1:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>i KNOW Jj, watt but is IT i don't know

1:58:08.280 --> 1:58:10.839
<v Speaker 1>about their locker. ROOM i thinking they're that team that's

1:58:10.880 --> 1:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna take over The south and be there.

1:58:13.360 --> 1:58:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Consistently, yeah that makes. Sense, hey your boy speaking of

1:58:17.000 --> 1:58:20.600
<v Speaker 2>generational and writing. Checks And Patrick mahomes now he got

1:58:20.640 --> 1:58:22.680
<v Speaker 2>that big. Deal now he's a little part owner and The.

1:58:23.320 --> 1:58:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Royal i'll tell you, what, man that's a movie you

1:58:25.800 --> 1:58:29.560
<v Speaker 1>like to see as an. Athlete, Yeah i'm super happy for, him.

1:58:29.600 --> 1:58:32.280
<v Speaker 1>MAN i saw him at At. TAHA i was playing

1:58:32.320 --> 1:58:37.720
<v Speaker 1>in the golf tournament, There American Century, championship And i'm warming,

1:58:37.840 --> 1:58:41.720
<v Speaker 1>up you, Know i'm out there two hours. Beforehand i'm

1:58:41.720 --> 1:58:47.160
<v Speaker 1>just trying to get. Myself, No i'm at the ars.

1:58:47.240 --> 1:58:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Beforehand that's WHY i was out. There So Patrick mahomes comes.

1:58:54.160 --> 1:58:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Up it's, really you, know just laid back and just

1:58:59.400 --> 1:59:01.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of open ben and he's just like all over

1:59:01.440 --> 1:59:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the place and just, like, hey hey we no free

1:59:03.960 --> 1:59:06.840
<v Speaker 1>no Free, willie you know. Whatever and he goes up

1:59:06.920 --> 1:59:08.560
<v Speaker 1>And i'm like this first that, says your first time.

1:59:08.600 --> 1:59:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Playing so he has first time playing, here but you, know,

1:59:10.960 --> 1:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>man AM i having a? Ball blah blah, blah puts

1:59:13.800 --> 1:59:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the pen and golf. On he's on his driver, pow

1:59:17.400 --> 1:59:20.360
<v Speaker 1>it's one and kind of like a stinger or. Whatever i'm,

1:59:20.400 --> 1:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>like this dude's gonna he's stink up the. Spot he's

1:59:23.520 --> 1:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>like he can't. Play he gets on the, course, man

1:59:27.080 --> 1:59:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and he is in the middle OF i, mean he's

1:59:29.520 --> 1:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>in the. Mix eagle, Here birdie, there par. Here i'm,

1:59:34.360 --> 1:59:36.480
<v Speaker 1>like oh my, god she's loving. LIFE i, said, man

1:59:36.560 --> 1:59:46.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a. Guy he's a signed half a, bee feeling

1:59:46.400 --> 1:59:49.560
<v Speaker 1>good about. Life i'm, like can care less where the ball?

1:59:49.640 --> 1:59:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Goes less, said that's a guy with no stress right.

1:59:53.160 --> 1:59:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Now he's such a good he's such a great. Player,

1:59:57.200 --> 1:59:59.080
<v Speaker 1>man such an exceptional, player, dude he.

1:59:59.160 --> 2:00:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Is, man he just seems like he has fun, too

2:00:01.480 --> 2:00:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and just competes his ass off when you're out.

2:00:03.440 --> 2:00:07.280
<v Speaker 1>There he does a stroke right, there look at, that

2:00:07.400 --> 2:00:17.200
<v Speaker 1>look a look at he look at. It look at.

2:00:17.200 --> 2:00:21.560
<v Speaker 1>That he didn't warm. Up he only hit a couple

2:00:21.560 --> 2:00:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of balls. Off the team didn't warm them. Up that's

2:00:23.480 --> 2:00:28.480
<v Speaker 1>five hundred Is, yeah he was like. That, MAN i get. It.

2:00:28.520 --> 2:00:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Man the dude is. Phenomenal dude is. Phenomenal. Unbelievable, Yeah

2:00:32.760 --> 2:00:35.440
<v Speaker 1>like when When houston went up on him like what

2:00:35.520 --> 2:00:38.680
<v Speaker 1>was it three scores or, whatever and you just knew, that,

2:00:38.720 --> 2:00:40.560
<v Speaker 1>hey they're not out of it because once he does

2:00:40.600 --> 2:00:44.480
<v Speaker 1>starts doing that flexing after a, touchdown you're just, like oh, ship,

2:00:44.720 --> 2:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Hey mahomes is about to turn it. Up and they did,

2:00:47.360 --> 2:00:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it not once but the entire, playoffs, Right that's what

2:00:52.000 --> 2:00:53.800
<v Speaker 1>makes them. Deadly when you have a team that can

2:00:54.120 --> 2:00:56.320
<v Speaker 1>come back from adversity like that and fight through. It

2:00:57.120 --> 2:00:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and they Beat houston by what by twenty? One, Right,

2:01:00.120 --> 2:01:03.200
<v Speaker 1>yeah they laid it on. Him houston did not eat

2:01:03.280 --> 2:01:07.160
<v Speaker 1>him by twenty, one down by twenty four and beat

2:01:07.200 --> 2:01:09.600
<v Speaker 1>him by twenty. One oh my, god that that was

2:01:09.720 --> 2:01:10.440
<v Speaker 1>remarkable to. Me.

2:01:10.520 --> 2:01:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah and then you got the leadership of him

2:01:13.560 --> 2:01:16.160
<v Speaker 2>and Then Honey badger on the other, Side like you

2:01:16.200 --> 2:01:18.440
<v Speaker 2>allude to leadership and things like, that like you, know

2:01:18.520 --> 2:01:23.280
<v Speaker 2>obviously they got it on both, sides. Right also your

2:01:23.320 --> 2:01:25.720
<v Speaker 2>relationship With. DEREK i know a lot of people talk

2:01:25.720 --> 2:01:30.000
<v Speaker 2>about your your guys', relationship your, friendship your, mentorship how

2:01:30.000 --> 2:01:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you mentor, him, how how how did that come about and?

2:01:32.880 --> 2:01:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Transpire was? It was it during the when did all

2:01:36.800 --> 2:01:38.600
<v Speaker 2>of that take? Place and how are you guys the.

2:01:38.640 --> 2:01:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Highest point when you where you're at? Now, yeah when

2:01:41.640 --> 2:01:44.400
<v Speaker 1>he win The Heisman. TROPHY i was there when he.

2:01:44.480 --> 2:01:46.640
<v Speaker 1>WANTED i was at his. Banquet you had a chance to.

2:01:46.680 --> 2:01:49.160
<v Speaker 1>TALK i got to know him a little. Bit And,

2:01:49.520 --> 2:01:51.800
<v Speaker 1>derek you, know can be a little aloof you, know

2:01:51.840 --> 2:01:53.880
<v Speaker 1>when we first meet, HIM i talk a whole lot

2:01:54.040 --> 2:01:56.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of quiet she, Is, YEAH i always got that

2:01:56.600 --> 2:01:58.680
<v Speaker 1>fashion on. Him oh D that's why it throws you.

2:01:58.760 --> 2:02:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Off you feel like he's gonna have some personality that's,

2:02:01.240 --> 2:02:03.400
<v Speaker 1>yeah what's this? Guy you? Know but he's kind of

2:02:03.440 --> 2:02:05.760
<v Speaker 1>quiet to, himself and you're like he's like it's not

2:02:05.800 --> 2:02:08.280
<v Speaker 1>like you, style you, Know it's Like, OKAY i compliment

2:02:08.360 --> 2:02:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you on Like i'm gonna. SNEAKERHEAD i get. IT i

2:02:10.680 --> 2:02:13.320
<v Speaker 1>like the. FACT i, mean so we we had. STORIES i,

2:02:13.360 --> 2:02:17.720
<v Speaker 1>think you, know going to we had a commercial together

2:02:18.080 --> 2:02:20.520
<v Speaker 1>with The Heisman, house and we really had a chance

2:02:20.560 --> 2:02:23.400
<v Speaker 1>to sit and. Talk on the flight back to La

2:02:23.680 --> 2:02:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it's three hours, long and we talked maybe you, know

2:02:26.600 --> 2:02:29.440
<v Speaker 1>two hours and thirty minutes of that and just about

2:02:29.480 --> 2:02:33.720
<v Speaker 1>everything From bama to oh stayed and The titans and

2:02:34.360 --> 2:02:39.360
<v Speaker 1>contracts and styles of play and so. FORTH i think

2:02:39.440 --> 2:02:44.880
<v Speaker 1>he reached out to me when who's the guy that

2:02:45.000 --> 2:02:48.200
<v Speaker 1>just left running back From New? England that was he was, here,

2:02:48.760 --> 2:02:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh Dion, Lewis Deon. Lewis When Dion lewis was brought

2:02:51.560 --> 2:02:56.000
<v Speaker 1>in this, YEAR i was, There Marco murray left and

2:02:56.080 --> 2:02:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the range were going. On derek he called. Me he was, like,

2:02:59.520 --> 2:03:02.960
<v Speaker 1>man do you think about you, Know dion coming? In

2:03:03.160 --> 2:03:05.840
<v Speaker 1>what are they trying to? Do blah blah. BLAH i, said,

2:03:05.880 --> 2:03:07.920
<v Speaker 1>man you, KNOW i told him, THEN i, said just

2:03:07.960 --> 2:03:12.360
<v Speaker 1>focus on. Yourself you determine how much they use. It

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<v Speaker 1>you determine that what they want to see from you

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<v Speaker 1>is not you hit the home. Run you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>That he demonstrated. That but what you do in between

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<v Speaker 1>the tackles, consistently how you control the game consistently with

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<v Speaker 1>the five yard hard, runs the four Yard And i'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you the big runs are going to happen if

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<v Speaker 1>you impose your, will if you seek out, contact if

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<v Speaker 1>you seek out the deliver, punishment those defensive backs will

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the. Way they don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>it for four quarters and you'll see the. Turnaround SO

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<v Speaker 1>i guess he took. That and then you know he

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<v Speaker 1>was pressing a little. Bit in the beginning of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Season you guys go over To San diego Play San.

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<v Speaker 1>Diego at the time was The chargers In england In,

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<v Speaker 1>london and it was a PLAY i want to, say

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<v Speaker 1>in the second quarter where it Was, merriweather a linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>who was like maybe five. Ten look this up for,

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<v Speaker 1>me how big Is. Merriweather he's not the, Biggest, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>not the not the biggest, linebacker, Right, Perryman, Perryman. Perryman

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<v Speaker 1>AND i, said, damn you know he elected to go off.

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<v Speaker 1>Tackle he could have squared him, up took half his,

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<v Speaker 1>body maybe he got three or four more yards and,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever but he made a. Move it made it easy for.

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<v Speaker 1>Him to tackle, him AND i remember sitting next To Keith,

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<v Speaker 1>BULLOCK i, said you, see, man that he's too big

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<v Speaker 1>to be running like the way he. Is he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hit the home. Run he's, pressing he's not having,

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<v Speaker 1>fun he's not imposing himself as Will AND i think

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing With dion and splitting time and not

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<v Speaker 1>getting carries and all that was just messing with his.

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<v Speaker 1>Head and it wasn't shortly thereafter he we had the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation after that that trip when he called me on the.

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<v Speaker 1>PHONE i believe it was A sunday night doing a bye,

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<v Speaker 1>week and that's that's when we had the. Heart the

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<v Speaker 1>heart and. Ship the. Rest the rest is literally. History

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<v Speaker 1>he's had some, yo he had the monster, runs, MAN

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<v Speaker 1>i mean he's. Monster. Yeah he's emerged as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a leader of the. TEAM i, mean hemerged as a vocal.

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<v Speaker 1>Leader and that's and they ride with. Him you can see,

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<v Speaker 1>it you can you can you can feel that they

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<v Speaker 1>feed off off of his. Energy oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They they, definitely they're definitely all. Jelling they're definitely all.

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<v Speaker 2>MESHING i know the old, Line, derek all of. Them

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<v Speaker 2>they like that kind of nasty. Attitude of knowing that they,

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<v Speaker 2>can you, know probably like yourself back in the, day like,

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<v Speaker 2>hey we're gonna run the.

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<v Speaker 1>Ball we want to run the ball thirty. Times but, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>HEY i appreciate. You this thing is almost spent two.

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<v Speaker 1>Hours you're almost one of the. Longest. Yeah oh, man

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<v Speaker 1>so AM i? Boring? Huh this is? Hey this is he.

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<v Speaker 1>A we got a bunch of. Times anybody got any questions, Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>hey don't just hold your breath, now go. On if

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<v Speaker 1>if some schools wanted to make you a linebacker right

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of coming out of high, school oh, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>a couple few of. Them if they if everybody wanted

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<v Speaker 1>you to be a running, back would you have chosen?

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<v Speaker 1>Differently that's a great. Question that's from my. Pops If

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<v Speaker 1>Penn state had said, yes they would need to play

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<v Speaker 1>running back order The Nity. Lion that was my. DREAM

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<v Speaker 1>i went there football camps as a, kid and they

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't offer. You they offered. Me but it's too.

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<v Speaker 1>Late but it was to play. LINEBACKER i went to

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<v Speaker 1>go went up there an unofficial. Visit when they Played Notre.

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<v Speaker 1>Dame they played against The Rome bettis And Ricky waters that,

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<v Speaker 1>group and they beat. Them AND i go into locker

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<v Speaker 1>room And i'm like and, All i'm, like, damn That's Joe, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>like That's Joe paterno right, there my. Hero i'm standing

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<v Speaker 1>there in the hallway AND i got on this goose

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<v Speaker 1>with the fur around the hood and my my skull.

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<v Speaker 1>Cap and he looks at, me looks me up and,

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<v Speaker 1>down and he goes off to the side and he

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<v Speaker 1>Calls Frank, ganter the running back, coach over and he

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<v Speaker 1>whispers and looks, back and Then frank comes. Over, Hey, Eddie, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>YEAH i remember you. Wing you were a football camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Man you've grown, up my. Guy where are? YOU i,

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<v Speaker 1>Said i'm At Fourking Military Academy and my heart's like.

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<v Speaker 1>This i'm, like oh my, god they're going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>me to come On. Monday we're going to give you a.

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<v Speaker 1>Call we're going to come down and come see. You

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<v Speaker 1>so go back To. Fourking couldn't sleep the night of

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<v Speaker 1>like toss and turning lo and. BEHOLD i get a.

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<v Speaker 1>Message Tom, bradley who recoust in the, area wants to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to. You SO i called, him, like, hey, coach

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing? Great win on the beating The irish

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<v Speaker 1>and all. That, says, yeah, well we want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you up for a. VISIT i, said, oh that'd be.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing when you weep come, up we set the date or,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever AND i, said, well are you guys looking to

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<v Speaker 1>recruit me as a linebacker or running? Back there's a

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<v Speaker 1>long pulse as well. Linebacker but thinking about, Linebacker we've

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<v Speaker 1>got some young running. Backs we Got John, carter we

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<v Speaker 1>Got Stephan, pitts we Got Mike, archie and we need,

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<v Speaker 1>more you, know a depth at. Linebacker. Hero and that's

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<v Speaker 1>my heart, saying because my goal was to play running back.

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<v Speaker 1>Period so that that that. Ended that that story, there

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<v Speaker 1>but long and. BEHOLD i didn't know they were independent

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<v Speaker 1>at the time they become The big. Ten and that's

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<v Speaker 1>WHEN i will go back and play Against Penn state

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<v Speaker 1>for three, times beat them two out of three. Times,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah a good, Question, alex that's my dad man shuts,

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<v Speaker 1>out shut out the. Pops what About Josh? Jack come,

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<v Speaker 1>On titans.

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<v Speaker 5>FANS i just want to get like a little behind

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<v Speaker 5>the scenes type thing of. You and like Ray lewis

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<v Speaker 5>is all y'all's old, bouts like just one on, one

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<v Speaker 5>just like the whole, crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like that time where you, guys that was on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sideline HE i, mean it wasn't like it wasn't a big,

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<v Speaker 2>game but you had like.

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<v Speaker 1>Slammed into the ground you know Play i'm talking. ABOUT

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<v Speaker 1>i know. That what were you to on that? Play you?

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<v Speaker 1>Know you, know you know what it, was you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it. Was it was supposed to. Be that's the,

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<v Speaker 1>moment like you would always, say he knocks me. Out

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<v Speaker 1>that was his time to knock me out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Game AND i JUST i don't. Remember rebating was a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of cuss. WORDS i know. That it's a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 1>Mfs if You i'll be back same. Play you. Know

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<v Speaker 1>it was a lot of going back and. Forth yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah a. Lot, yeah we would go at. It. MAN

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<v Speaker 1>i think that, was uh the playoff. Game yeah, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that's not, no that's just the regular season. Game Was

2:10:05.320 --> 2:10:08.080
<v Speaker 1>he probably one of your favorite defensive players to play?

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<v Speaker 1>Against WAS i wouldn't say, favorite but because because of

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<v Speaker 1>he was always. There he was more or less by,

2:10:18.440 --> 2:10:23.560
<v Speaker 1>far the greatest Linebacker i've ever. Faced oh, yeah without a,

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<v Speaker 1>doubt because he's, smart, instinctive and if you're not, careful

2:10:27.840 --> 2:10:30.000
<v Speaker 1>he knock the ship out of. You, yeah you, know

2:10:30.120 --> 2:10:31.000
<v Speaker 1>he was he was that.

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<v Speaker 2>DUE i, mean, hell he's got a clip being on

2:10:34.000 --> 2:10:38.720
<v Speaker 2>kickoff return and almost killing a man on a on a.

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<v Speaker 1>Backblock, basically, yeah you know What i'm talking. About he

2:10:42.600 --> 2:10:44.000
<v Speaker 1>told the dude to come out of the end. Zone,

2:10:44.120 --> 2:10:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's, like, hey, no take it out of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Zone he was on kick. Return that. Was that was

2:10:50.080 --> 2:10:53.840
<v Speaker 1>when Ed reid turned it for a touchdown right before

2:10:53.880 --> 2:10:55.840
<v Speaker 1>half to kick the field goal and make the field.

2:10:55.840 --> 2:10:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Goal they came. Out he Told edred to come out of.

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<v Speaker 2>There i'm telling you he had a kickoff return rep

2:11:02.400 --> 2:11:05.640
<v Speaker 2>like he was on special. TEAMS i swear to, GOD

2:11:05.680 --> 2:11:07.200
<v Speaker 2>i don't know why he, was but he was on

2:11:07.280 --> 2:11:11.040
<v Speaker 2>special teams type In, yeah Ray lewis kickoff return.

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<v Speaker 1>Do uh He i'm telling, you, WELL i. DON'T i

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<v Speaker 1>don't doubt it because he's that type of, player without a.

2:11:18.960 --> 2:11:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Doubt we've always had a, rival a fierce, rival me

2:11:21.320 --> 2:11:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and him coming out of nineteen ninety. Six, man how.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh what was the thoughts in your head when he

2:11:27.040 --> 2:11:29.040
<v Speaker 2>took that when he got that interception and took it

2:11:29.080 --> 2:11:29.280
<v Speaker 2>to the.

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<v Speaker 1>House, well, honestly prior to, that the field, goal it

2:11:34.640 --> 2:11:36.880
<v Speaker 1>was a field goal that was blocked and returned for a,

2:11:36.920 --> 2:11:42.040
<v Speaker 1>touchdown and that play took the win out of our

2:11:42.080 --> 2:11:46.200
<v Speaker 1>sales because to get back into score on that defense

2:11:46.240 --> 2:11:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that year was like. Damn it was like me trying

2:11:51.720 --> 2:11:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to get to the. Moon you know. It really it

2:11:54.400 --> 2:11:56.840
<v Speaker 1>was very difficult to get in the position to score

2:11:56.880 --> 2:12:00.480
<v Speaker 1>against his. Defense, YEAH i, mean because they were that.

2:12:00.680 --> 2:12:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Good it ran a four to Three Sarah goosa And

2:12:04.560 --> 2:12:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Sam adams in the middle cover two beat. It that's.

2:12:09.880 --> 2:12:12.760
<v Speaker 1>It it was no exotic. Blitzes they weren't trying to

2:12:12.760 --> 2:12:15.240
<v Speaker 1>sugar look at. HIM i mean it was it was

2:12:15.280 --> 2:12:20.720
<v Speaker 1>for growning. Only so once that play, happened it was

2:12:20.840 --> 2:12:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it was, like all, right we're out of our. Element

2:12:23.680 --> 2:12:28.120
<v Speaker 1>it hits me. Down if you saw the ball get

2:12:28.120 --> 2:12:31.680
<v Speaker 1>tipped into his, hands right. Yeah Now baltimore fans like

2:12:31.760 --> 2:12:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to say he snatched it out of my, hands THAT

2:12:35.000 --> 2:12:38.280
<v Speaker 1>i carried the, football that he ripped it out and

2:12:38.280 --> 2:12:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the ball was behind. Me, yeah it's it's it's, uh

2:12:42.920 --> 2:12:46.280
<v Speaker 1>but you know that, happens, man that. Happens that's that's

2:12:46.320 --> 2:12:49.360
<v Speaker 1>when it all went. Down he had six minutes and

2:12:49.400 --> 2:12:54.240
<v Speaker 1>forty seconds. Left, yeah that was. It, oh that was.

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<v Speaker 1>It that was six, Minutes, yeah six forty five and

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<v Speaker 1>this is good pod. Boys, yeah, MAN i appreciate. You hey,

2:13:03.560 --> 2:13:06.880
<v Speaker 1>MAN i appreciate. You this is this is. AWESOME i enjoyed, it,

2:13:06.920 --> 2:13:08.920
<v Speaker 1>man and good luck to you, too, brother thank, you

2:13:09.120 --> 2:13:11.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you and all your. ENDEAVORS i think this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be. Huge it already is so, well IT'S i,

2:13:14.440 --> 2:13:16.600
<v Speaker 1>mean it's not huge, yet but it is. Growing, yeah

2:13:16.640 --> 2:13:18.360
<v Speaker 1>it is. Growing it's going in the right. Direction, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it's going in the right. Direction many appreciate. You Bro

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<v Speaker 1>leep down all The. Mississippi there's a