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Speaker 2: Always going into his NFL career, being drafted by the

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Speaker 2: He's had some ups and downs, a lot of pivotal

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Speaker 2: I go to this camp, bug Eye, can't wait. You're

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Speaker 1: That was just a gritty grind.

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Speaker 2: But we met almost August twenty four, twenty twelve, almost

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Speaker 2: Everything full circle like goosebumps thinking about the old running

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Speaker 1: And that is insane. Yeah, that's right, because I was

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Speaker 2: YEAH i know it's, crazy, Dude BUT i want to

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Speaker 1: state wanted to play running back For Penn. STATE i

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Speaker 1: do that really. Well Is ley on my constant play

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00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: video games and fruity pebbles all, day you. Know so

431
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: the potential was there to do something, great but she

432
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: had to change my, environment and by her doing, THAT

433
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: i had. TO i was able to see the potential

434
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: of WHAT i could become and be in. Life, man that's.

435
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: Crazy because like you were, saying alluding to his probably

436
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 2: to this decision you probably ever made at that, point

437
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: but knowing it's the right, one LIKE i got to

438
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: do this or he's going to go down.

439
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: The WRONG i wouldn't be talking to you right now

440
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: without any of, this you, know without having that, EXPERIENCE

441
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: i would not be on this bus right. NOW i

442
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: would not be talking about my, career my, life my,

443
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: family my, values my principles without that.

444
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: Experience is there an a, Moment is there a moment

445
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: you can think on that actually shifted your, perspective like

446
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: when you're because figuring that out kind of in high.

447
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: SCHOOL i, mean hats off to you for that, too

448
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: because a lot of kids they. Don't they might might be,

449
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: college it might be way down the line before they figure.

450
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: Out but it was, there like a like an ass

451
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: kicking moment where you're, like, YO i got to turn

452
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: my shirt.

453
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: Around yeah it. Was there was a running back WHEN

454
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: i got down. There his name Was Lee. Green in,

455
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: fact he passed away this, year and he uh was

456
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: like everything All american running back getting recruited by everybody

457
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: in the. Country four point OH. Gpa just the model

458
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: of like WHAT i wanted to be six three two

459
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: and twenty five, pounds ran a four five forty four four,

460
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: forty just a beast of a running back. Person he

461
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: was a patune. SERGEANT i mean he was just, like, gosh,

462
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: man this is the model and that's WHAT i. WANT

463
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: i want to get. That how CAN i get? That

464
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: BUT i wasn't very. TOUGH i didn't like to, run

465
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: didn't like to. Work and it was This, monday we

466
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: were running wind sprints after practice and At Fourth, union

467
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: you march, first like we. Were we have fatigued days

468
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: Every tuesday And. Thursday excuse, Me monday And wednesday was

469
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: prayed and fatigue. DAY i mean that we were. Fatigued

470
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: we got our rifles and we got to prepare to

471
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: march for however long that, is for an hour marching

472
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: and just getting ready for this. PRAADE i hated. It

473
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: so we come we were already coming to practice. Exhausted

474
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: so it was one day that after every practice we

475
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: do these wind sprints for conditioning and for, competition so

476
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: we'll run ten and then after that it's. Competition whoever

477
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: comes in first gets. Out so NATURALLY i was, like,

478
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: Shit i'm the slowest one out. Here So i'm in

479
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: a lolly gag until WHAT i, get you, KNOW i

480
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: WHEN i KNOW i can beat somebody in and then get.

481
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: Off so and wind up beating one of the second

482
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: fastest guys that, day AND i throw my hands up

483
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: in the air AND i every shit lifting t commercial

484
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: with the last. WATER i did that on the ground

485
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: and my coach was, Screaming, ah that's ALL i can

486
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: hear is my helmets, on And i'm thinking they're cheering

487
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: me on BECAUSE i did a great. Job he, Says, George,

488
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: sure get your ass, up get your ass, up and

489
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: run another. One there's no laying down on my field

490
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: after you after you, win or after you finish your.

491
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: Sports there's no laying. Down you. Walk And i'm pissed,

492
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: up like, DAMN i just, won And i'm crying and

493
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: bitching about. It and all of a, sudden my teammates

494
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: was calling me soft and they were, like you know,

495
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: what May you're just selfish and this and, that and

496
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: he made me run another. One i' huffing and, puffing

497
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: and then he is As i'm walking off the, Field

498
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: he's standing over this. Bank his bank is about twenty

499
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: FEET i guess, long and he's going downhill and just

500
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: down on the other, side the postgraduates are practicing and

501
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: he's watching, them sunglasses on hat on the whistle in his.

502
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: Mouth he, Says George, kmarre he, says you're a rose.

503
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: PEDAL i see what he. Says you're a rose. Pedal

504
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: you look, good but you're, fragile just like a rose.

505
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: Pedal so that's your. Nickname and then he, said do

506
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: you want to play big time college? FOOTBALL i, said, yes,

507
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: SIR i. Do he, said, well listen to me And

508
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: i'll get you. There and from that moment ON i

509
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: listened to. Him and it was not. EASY i still.

510
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: Rebelled but ONCE i started seeing the system and how

511
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: it could work for, me and how the people, there the,

512
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: staff the, teachers the coaches were there to help, ME

513
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: i began to really work. HARD i began to work

514
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: at my. Craft SO i would spend hours working out

515
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: in the. GYM i would miss damn and miss, dinner you,

516
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: know just to get in every single rep THAT i,

517
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: could BECAUSE i could then see, it taste and feel

518
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: my opportunity coming now to be ready for. It. Damn,

519
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: hey that's a good.

520
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: Story, yeah THAT'S i bet that was tough as ship

521
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: hearing that somebody call you a rose.

522
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: Petal oh, yeah it. Was you look, good but you're. Fragile,

523
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: hey that's tough. Man, yeah that's.

524
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: Tough when do you feel, like because you've alluded to

525
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: yourself being slow during this, time when do you felk

526
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: like you started coming to your OWN i assume it

527
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: At Ohio? State when did you start? Blossoming oh and

528
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: kind of becoming that? Dude well At Old state or,

529
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: yeah at O' state was.

530
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: WELL i played some as my friend in my freshman

531
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: year as a goal line running, back AND i had

532
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: some success. Early it was a national televised game Against.

533
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: Syracuse syracuse was, ranged, guys you looked us. UP i

534
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: think in nineteen ninety two they were ranked a preseason

535
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: ranked top, fifteen top. Ten it'suted to get the story,

536
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: right BUT i never left facts getting away with good story.

537
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: Anyway they were, ranked there were number two in the.

538
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: COUNTRY i was just, going what year was, it nineteen ninety,

539
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: two nineteen nineteen ninety, two just type in nineteen ninety,

540
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: Two syracuse was, ten ring tenth in the. Country that

541
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Was that's that's the end of the, year. THOUGH i

542
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: Bet i'm. Trying. Preseason, yeah ranked tip top, fifteen yeah, yeah,

543
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: yeah top, ten and they Have Marvin, graves they got the,

544
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: missile they got a defense that's. Swarming they Beat Ohio

545
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: state that past year in The Citrus, bowl so they

546
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: kind of. Know so it's a home game for, them

547
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: and we're going to carry. Them were huge underdogs going

548
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: in there on A saturday night game of the. Week,

549
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Okay Kirk kurbsey was our, quarterback and you knew we

550
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: were going to run the football because he can't throw

551
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: with the damn you know, that, Right and we had

552
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: we had all this talent Outside Joe galloway and all of,

553
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: that but we would go two tight ends and hand

554
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: the ball off to me Or. Raymond but it's long story.

555
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: Short Robert, smith who was our running, back was kind of,

556
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: hurt had hurt ribs and he couldn't take on the,

557
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: loads so we had to share the. Loads SO i

558
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: was playing running, back good goal line running back that.

559
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: Night so long story, SHORT i scored three touchdowns that.

560
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: NIGHT i became Touchdown. Eddie The Ohio state fans loved.

561
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: Me two weeks, later we play our second biggest rival

562
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: in The Big ten at the Time illinois and during that,

563
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: period during the Era illinois owned. Us, okay they would

564
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: no matter if we're playing them In champagne or down

565
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: In ohio in The. Columbus they just had our. Number

566
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: and this was the year we were supposed to beat.

567
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: Them going to The Rose bull and so. Forth and

568
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: the first, CARRY i get a goal. Line you, Know i'm, thinking,

569
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: okay this is the big. Ten Whatever i'm going to.

570
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: Score i'm, thinking, like How i'm going to score my?

571
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: Touchdown with my touchdowns going to touchdown celebrations going to be,

572
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: yeah go and get the, ball go up the. Middle

573
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: BEFORE i go, down the ball pops out and bounces

574
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: twice off the, turf and The illinois defended pictures that

575
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: it runs back ninety seven yards for a. Touchdown oh, shit,

576
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: yeah shit is? Right yeah. Yeah So i'm, like, Oh i'm.

577
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Pissed i'm. Embarrassed i'm, like, DAMN i don't even get

578
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: a little. Opportunity cooper yells at me, again, goes get,

579
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: go redeem. Yourself wind up scoring a. TOUCHDOWN i brand

580
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: somebody square flat over. MAN i was, pissed. Excited. Touchdown,

581
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: well the game goes on back and, forth back and

582
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: forth and we finally drive down for the winning. Touchdown

583
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: he throws me in the. GAME i take the. TOSS

584
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: i get the, toss nineteen. TOLLS i see the forced

585
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: defender come. UPFIELD i cut it. Underneath i'm going to

586
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: make a b line to the, pylon take the next,

587
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: step get hit in the, back ball flies in the,

588
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: air fumble. Recovered game. Over my season was done AND

589
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: i didn't see the field to get into my junior.

590
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: Year no, ship no. Ship and that was in that

591
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: moment between my freshmen and sophomore year to my junior,

592
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: year that that's WHEN i found out WHO i. WAS

593
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: i had to dig a little bit.

594
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: Deeper, yeah because you're in you, know for people who don't,

595
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: know like when you have when you drop off kind

596
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: of like that and you're going through a second year

597
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: and you're not touching the, field and you're going through

598
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: two different offseasons where not only are you training hard

599
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: to get back right, mentally you know every coach probably,

600
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: teammates like you just, know eyes are on you differently

601
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: than what you would, like, yes and so you are

602
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: in some lonely spots, sometimes no.

603
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: Question so when you're fighting, back LIKE i can't wait

604
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: to hear the next.

605
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: Story like for people who don't, know like coming back

606
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: from shit that where you feel like you're. Defined want a,

607
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: fumbler always a, Fumbler like every coach.

608
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: Around that thinks you this like you, can't you, know,

609
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: teammates it's tough to overcome that tough. Mentally so what

610
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: happened junior? YEAR i, well how'd you battle back to

611
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: get that respect back for your? Jam? WELL i bust my, Ass,

612
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: YEAH i bust my. ASS i MEAN i could have.

613
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: TRANSFERRED i thought about, transferring but that was only going

614
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: to follow, me, Right SO i was. That my sophomore

615
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: year was a little bit better in training, camp but

616
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: the coaches still didn't trust. Me never got those opportunities,

617
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: again you, know get mop up duty here and, there

618
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: play a. Sparently but, yeah SO i had to wait

619
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: my time because in our in our meeting, room we

620
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: had three four running backs that all went to THE

621
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: NFL H Robert, Smith Butler, Banote Raymond, Harris Jeff, cothine

622
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: all four of them in the. League, yeah SO i

623
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: had to wait my. Turn so WHAT i did WAS

624
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: i showed up early six o'clock in the, morning would work,

625
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: out AND i would come back twice a. DAY i

626
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: would do two a. Days and you, know you Know

627
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: Dave kennedy right?

628
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: Now, no, YEAH i KNOW i know him because he

629
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: was a recruiter of mine BEFORE i went.

630
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: There, okay perfect, well his workouts were notoriously. Difficult, yes

631
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: guys talked about that all, Yes AND i would do

632
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: his workouts twice a. Day so all the pain THAT i,

633
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: felt the hurt THAT i, felt the, embarrassment the, discouragement

634
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: and all the negative talk that was going on around,

635
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: ME i used that for fuel for my fire to

636
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: come back even. Harder so my junior, year there was

637
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: still speculation that we don't, know he's the, guy got

638
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: this young recruit coming. In let's split time and speak

639
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,719
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Speaker 1: lancing where everything just kind of slowed down AND i

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Speaker 2: Charts oh, yeah, Yeah heisman. Winner, yeah edged out Of Tommy.

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Speaker 1: Fraser, yeah it's like the closest it's is it? Still

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Speaker 1: Votes, Dude tommy was the beast. Too, listen, Man Tommy,

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Speaker 1: Fraser it's no joke that to beat him out, Right

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Speaker 2: YEAR i assume you finished out the ju your junior,

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Speaker 1: Go ahead to go. THROUGH i, mean just five years before,

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Speaker 1: ready for a march to wait For March march five

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Speaker 1: THAT i was six fight pounds AND i used to

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, EIGHT i would practice my heisman speech in

739
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: the mirror of my grandmother's. House really, yep AND i

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Speaker 1: promise you, MAN i would look up at the stars

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Speaker 1: and ask and Tell, GOD i know you have something

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Speaker 1: special for. ME i have no idea How i'm going

743
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Speaker 1: to get there or when or, what BUT i know

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Speaker 1: it's coming and it's like a whirl when it just

745
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: it just. Happened so when the heisman was a very surreal.

746
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Speaker 1: Moment BUT i wasn't, surprised BUT i was, like, damn

747
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: that really just. Happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's kind of like those are you a fan?

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Speaker 2: mind you're, Like i'm not, surprised but it's.

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Speaker 2: Happened happened right BECAUSE i was seeing it before all that.

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00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: Stuff visualizing, it seeing, it. Feeling there's so much to,

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Speaker 1: that so much to. Prayer you, know prayer is a

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Speaker 1: goes as far as much as you believe. It if

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Speaker 1: and you work on that part of you every single

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Speaker 1: day that you get. Up you bend your will To

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Speaker 1: god's purpose for, you and trust in the visions and

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765
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Speaker 1: purpose in. Life you will you will see things unfold for.

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Speaker 1: You but the moment that you doubt it and, said,

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Speaker 1: Well i'm gonna Test god like it only it only

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Speaker 1: have that, attitude then it will never happen for.

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Speaker 2: You, well usually those attitudes come when something hard actually

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Speaker 2: know they'll listen to a speech by you and then

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Speaker 2: To he's that same energy even in those moments.

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Speaker 1: That the pushback is the blessing right, right every superher

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Speaker 1: in and you get kicked in the, gut how are

784
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Speaker 1: how do you? Respond that's the beauty of. It and

786
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Speaker 1: it happens in, business it happens in, football it happens

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Speaker 1: in every aspect of, life as a, father as a,

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Speaker 1: Pushback you want to have some. Resistance, yeah, YEAH i like.

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00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: That so now you go To. Tennessee, obviously your career

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00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,680
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00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,840
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Speaker 1: Three years were, difficult having no, identity my, Fault Houston, Oilers,

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00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:23,160
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Speaker 2: the wow this is the league because you know we might,

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Speaker 2: know but give people perspective on what you.

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00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: Mean, well At Ohio state we had at the, time

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00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,680
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815
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824
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,040
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827
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828
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Speaker 1: once they announced that we were Leaving houston and going To,

829
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Speaker 1: tennessee there was a ghost. Town it was nobody coming

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00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,000
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831
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Speaker 1: it was Against. BALTIMORE i think it may have been

834
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,319
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Speaker 1: say a motel Six, no, yeah like for when we

853
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: went To. Memphis so that was not like we had

854
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: the best of. Anything we had to take cabs over To,

855
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: hey what were some of the wildest motel six? Stories oh?

856
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: Many we Would, well she was only there for one,

857
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: night so it was it wasn't a whole lot that

858
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: we could, do but just to prove that the rooms

859
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: were being cleaned every, Week, yeah we would leave like

860
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: a piece of like gum war or or an old

861
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: sandwich underneath the blanket where the extra blake it, is

862
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: to see if it will be there when we got.

863
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: Back and lo and. Behold it was there the entire. Year.

864
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: Ship yeah it. WAS i mean it was gutter, man

865
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: it was gutn but it developed the toughness to. Us

866
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: so once we got here in nineteen ninety nine and

867
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: we saw the facility, built we saw the the stadium go,

868
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: up and when we walked in that stadium on a

869
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: preseason game and it was, packed it was, like oh,

870
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: shit we gotta win starting right. Now there's no time

871
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: to bullshit, here there's no time to put a bad

872
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: product on the. Field so we don't have any. Fans

873
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: this Was that was. It that was that Was that

874
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: was The michigan ingredient for. Us and that's when things just.

875
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: Shifted you. Know we went from no mads to.

876
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: Kings you have some cold, tubs you have some hot

877
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: tubs with that the facility that was.

878
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: Back then right. Then still it's still different. Now, yeah

879
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: we had a huge hot, Tub we had a huge.

880
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: Goal you could fit thirty guys in the cold tub at.

881
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: ONCE i, mean all of this stuff that that we

882
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: wish we, Had, like oh my, god now you go over,

883
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: there it's even That oh yeah, yeah, yeah it's really. Better,

884
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: yeah it's way. Better, man but, yeah that's those are

885
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: the those are the glory. Days.

886
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: Man you know my rookie, year so coming From nebraska

887
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: high up facilities as, well and then going to The

888
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 2: washington football. Team it like my after our first, PRACTICE

889
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: i remember coming in and thinking, Like, yo we're the

890
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: cold tubs and.

891
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: Stuff like what what's going?

892
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: On because the cafeterias are weird in like every team at.

893
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: First but you walk into the training room and off

894
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: on like some side room Like rack Or Rat Brian

895
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: Rackpo London. Fletcher they're like they have water hoses putting

896
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: these these tubs, together just these little binds that they,

897
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: had like you know from outside like oh yeah this

898
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: is how we's how we you know, right this is

899
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: how we got to do it here, man until we

900
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: get some tubs next. Year BUT i was, Thinking, yo

901
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: this is THE. Nfl, yeah it's.

902
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Surprising and it was way it was way. Different, yeah

903
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: money went into players compared.

904
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: To in, college it goes into the. Facilities, now nineteen ninety,

905
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: nine that year you guys go to The Super. Bowl

906
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: talk to us about that. Year we talk to us

907
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: about what it's like playing for Coach. Fish how you

908
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: guys all handled the. Transition like you, said now you've

909
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: got fans in the, stadium you're trying to, basically, hey

910
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: we want to win and keep this the way it.

911
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Is we got to show out for these.

912
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: Guys talk about that transition of going into playing that.

913
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: Season, yeah it. Was it was a lot of things.

914
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: Changing it was the, uniforms it was the. Name the

915
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: fans were part of the process of naming, us the

916
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: tightness and we we we felt a genuine love with.

917
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: Them Coach fisher was masterful of bringing us From houston

918
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: To nashville because we were still. Competitive we went eight

919
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: and eight during those, years and everybody looks at his

920
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: record eight and? Eight what the FUCK i, mean think

921
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: about what he had to deal. With, yeah like that's

922
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: that shit ain't, easy, RIGHT i mean to try to

923
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: get a team ready every single, week selling us on

924
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: what you, know with with no, fans like come, on,

925
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: like that's that's to be, commendable to put a product out,

926
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: there to do the best you. Can we could have

927
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: easily went one and, twelve and it were one in

928
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: fifteen and and and that was okay because there was

929
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: no pressure there for us to, win so to come

930
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: up with creative ways to sell the game plan every single,

931
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: week and we were dead. Tired we there was no

932
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: was no incentive really to play other than for each.

933
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: Other those were some tough. Years so once we got

934
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: everything in place and we finally had a sense that

935
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: we that we, mattered and it was it was, like oh,

936
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: god you can feel it in the and you can

937
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: feel the. Energy and training camp in nineteen ninety, nine

938
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i was in my third, Year steve was coming

939
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: into his. Own we had picked just drafted some, receivers young,

940
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: Receivers Kevin, dyson we just Drafted Javon. Curse. Yeah now

941
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: that was literally, like oh, god we can Really we

942
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: already had a good, defense but he set it.

943
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 2: Off because he had that rookie year that was like

944
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: he couldn't use uneptional.

945
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: Man he was. Unblockable and then you throw in the

946
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: fans where it was the loudest stadium in the league

947
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: at the. Time they thought we were piping sound in.

948
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: It so it was. Raucous it was a hornous ness

949
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: when you walked into A dulphia stadium and you had

950
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: to deal with a team that was nasty that, said,

951
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: look we're gonna run the ball thirty times you're not

952
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: gonna even worry about throwing it, vertical but you're gonna

953
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: have to deal with us in the box for sixty plus.

954
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: Minutes he's gonna be iron fists for sixty more plus.

955
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: Minutes are you man enough to deal with? That? Yeah

956
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: you know What i'm. Saying that's the mentality that we.

957
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: Had and it was a beautiful. Thing you. Know we were,

958
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: nasty were, grimy work going throw up. Three we're gonna

959
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: beat you ten to nine thirteen three, yeah, yeah pacifire,

960
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: mouth no, doubt. Man and that's we're gonna get. It

961
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: the old the ski mask, quay you, know that's how

962
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: we could do. It and h ninety nine was a great.

963
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: Year we did not lose a game in that stadium

964
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: at all that that, YEAR i think for the first

965
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: our first two or three, years and have never lost

966
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: a home. Game. Damn. Yeah now let's get to the Super.

967
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: Bowl how how how often do you still think about

968
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: The Super? Bowl you? Know it comes up almost every

969
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: day in some. Capacity hey that's, tough. Man well it's.

970
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: Not it's, not, NO i, know But i'm saying like,

971
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: that like, here and here's, Why because it was it's

972
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: tougher in THE Afc Championship game to get, there that's

973
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: the toughest game to play in. Too that's a that's

974
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: a grind out, war and it's survival of the fittest

975
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: in that. Game so to get to The Super bowl was, like, ah,

976
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: okay we're, here and it's that's the. Reward to play

977
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: for the ultimate prize and to have battled the way we,

978
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: Did i'm okay with. That i'm okay with. That it

979
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: let me, know like at that moment When Kevin dyson

980
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: stretched out his arm didn't cross the goal line and

981
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: the confetti's flying, everywhere it was, like, damn we just experienced.

982
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: This we didn't. Win it hurts like, hell but it

983
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: sparked something in us that we knew we had something

984
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: special for a certain window of. Time SO i remember

985
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: after that, game we flew back To nashville and we're

986
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: supposed to supposed to The Pro, bowl AND i Told,

987
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: JEFF i, said, look, Man i'm thinking about not even

988
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: going to The Pro. Bowl you, KNOW i want to

989
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: get started on next year right. NOW i think HE'S

990
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: i think he's mentioned that on the right right, now

991
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: like not, tomorrow but right, Now i'm Gonna i'm gonna

992
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: get stretched out'na, recovered But i'm hitting the. Hills i'm

993
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna go on the. Sabbatical i'm gonna go and train

994
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: in the. Mountains i'm gonna go The rocky, style you,

995
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: know club lane, style you know What i'm, saying where

996
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: the rats are rolling around and the pipes are growing,

997
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: out you, know you know that that type. Ship that's

998
00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: that's WHAT i was. On and, UH i was that

999
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: hungry for it to have, that to be that close

1000
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: to winning. It and now that taste in your, mouth,

1001
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: man is. Intoxicating it's, addictive AND i wanted, that AND

1002
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: i felt like that STAGE i felt comfortable being. ON

1003
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: i Enjoyed That's that's WHERE i belonged on a on

1004
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: a stage like that. Consistently my goal was to get

1005
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: back there. Consistently and of course you know that the

1006
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: story behind, that BUT i did so knowing.

1007
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: That you don't ever go back and think like there's a,

1008
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: like is there anything else that could have been executed

1009
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: differently on that final?

1010
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Play? Oh, YEAH i think. That is there any a

1011
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: different play you wish would have been?

1012
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: Called is there a different moment in that game THAT i,

1013
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: mean you know all those things you said was.

1014
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: MADE i, mean we're at the two yard.

1015
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: Line here We, hey by the, way a hell of

1016
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: a fucking tackle By Mike jones.

1017
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: Death, yeah he he played he played it. Well Kevin

1018
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: dyson could take a step further and THAT. O that's

1019
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: that was. It that was that was the. Play and

1020
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: they rushed the field and that and that's and so

1021
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: all she, Wrote but hindsight twenty, twenty, man we battled like. Warriors,

1022
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: Man AND i remember being in the huddle before this,

1023
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: play AND i said to, myself regardless of what, Happens

1024
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: i'm gonna hold my head up high because this is a,

1025
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: team the greatest show on. Turf was supposed to blow

1026
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: us out seventeen points or, whatever and we beat them

1027
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: earlier in that year two so had we gone into,

1028
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: overtime that defense was so. Tired it was it was

1029
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: our game to. Win so you, know WHEN i look, back,

1030
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: yeah we, lost but people remember that game and they

1031
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: have long lasting relationships and friendship from. It i've distracted so,

1032
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: much so many lessons in life about that THAT i

1033
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: can teach to my sons using my. Speeches so it's

1034
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: served its. Purpose it really. Did, YEAH i like that

1035
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: uh silver lining on it.

1036
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: Too the how you use it as influenced absolutely speeches

1037
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 2: and things like. That, obviously everyone knowing that we would

1038
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: have you on the, bus everybody included.

1039
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: Congratulations on the, baby because you couldn't do it because you.

1040
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: Baby taylor had a, Baby taylor Had REMEMBER i have no,

1041
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: baby not. YET i just. Arried next, YEAR i just

1042
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: got how'd you do?

1043
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: IT i we were out In oakland and we were

1044
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: about to fly To denver for our last, game AND

1045
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: i had had a plan to do it that year

1046
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: in some, capacity AND i was.

1047
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Running out of. Time and WHEN i went To, Oakland i'm,

1048
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: like all, right how AM i going to swing?

1049
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: This SO i got to set up at this local

1050
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: at this local, restaurant set this que little spot up

1051
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: by the, window a little two. Seater and she'd always

1052
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: wanted a love note from. Me and you, know some

1053
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: the masculinity kicks at the times and you're, Like i'm

1054
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: not going to write you a love. Note but something

1055
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: clicked to my.

1056
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: HEAD i was, Like, okay if she's always want to

1057
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: love not for like her birthday or, Something i'm gonna

1058
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: do it for our.

1059
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: Engagement SO i wrote a very well written love. Letter

1060
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: gave it to her as like a birthday. Card she

1061
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: opened it. UP i said she had to read it

1062
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: aloud so that WAY i.

1063
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: Wouldn't fumble a, a so that WAY i wouldn't fumble over my.

1064
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: Words and she doesn't know at, first and then she

1065
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: gets in the last paragraph and she realizes coming, together

1066
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: she starts tearing. UP i get. OUT i moved the

1067
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: little table to the. SIDE i get down on a

1068
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: knee and crying WHILE i was tearing. Up But i'm

1069
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: like THE pda. Stuff it bothers. Me so getting over

1070
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 2: the hump being in public doing, it it was like

1071
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: a Big it was just a big. STEP i was,

1072
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: like here's WHAT i gotta do it in front of,

1073
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: people got a face one, Fears but.

1074
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah it. Was and it is dope because you create

1075
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: the moment in time that she'll never. Forget that's a

1076
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: memory that she'll never. Forget i'm glad you did it

1077
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: right too. Well thank you wrote a love. Letter wrote

1078
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: a love. LETTER i used to write love letters all

1079
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: the time back in grade. School when you're, like you,

1080
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: know writing some notes and you pass in the. Hallway

1081
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: but you know how it is this day and age man,

1082
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: like are your kids at the, right THEY'RE dm and.

1083
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: Stuff that's What i'm. Saying it's different now like body,

1084
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: parts like LIKE i SEE i see the ship that

1085
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: goes on in my. Household, yeah And i'm, like, look,

1086
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: hey cut this ship out right, now you cut it. Out,

1087
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: yeah you, Know i'm not gonna put. Myself he's never know,

1088
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: that not like. That but, yeah, yeah, yeah kids are

1089
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: it's different. Nowadays but it really is.

1090
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: Different but, anyway now we have the letter hanging, up

1091
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: so it was really. Good but WHAT i was going

1092
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: to ask you, was, yeah there it is right.

1093
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: There very, nice very. Nice, yeah beautiful. Girl. Man yeah that,

1094
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: yeah thank you. MAN i definitely.

1095
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: Did but going back to that year and just talking

1096
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: playing on The titans in, general everyone always loves to

1097
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: know what it was like stories Of steve McNair playing With.

1098
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: Eve you, know what teaching lessons you might have taken

1099
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: from him as a, teammate a, player a man off the,

1100
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: field any of that stuff that you might. Use, now

1101
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: what was, it, like what's something that exemplifies your guys',

1102
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: relationship your guys is being on the field. Together what

1103
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: are Some steve McNair stories that you might.

1104
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: Have, WELL i was a fan Of steve coming coming

1105
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: From Ohio state into, COLLEGE i mean into the Pro excuse.

1106
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: Me he went to All Corn state ON hbcu In,

1107
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: mississippi and his he was. LEGEND i mean, shit he

1108
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: graced the cover Of Sports, illustrated hands them The. HEISMAN

1109
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: i mean he's breaking all types of, records and you,

1110
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: know he was just an awesome. Athlete to to to,

1111
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: KNOW i mean he finished third or second in The

1112
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy Maham Rashaan, salaam and he was. Everything but

1113
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: to become his, teammate to get to Know steve. Intimately

1114
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: he was the type that wouldn't allow people in if

1115
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: he didn't. Know he was very protective of his feelings

1116
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: and what he thought and so. Forth so it was

1117
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: really tough to get beyond the exterior Of Io steve.

1118
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: Was he didn't trust a lot of. People but once

1119
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: he lets you, in, man he was just come on

1120
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: his bus and flip flops and a glass of moonshine

1121
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: and you, know dipping his mouth coming from. Fishing he

1122
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: was just a country boy at. Heart he was more country.

1123
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: Boy loved being a country boy than loved being a football.

1124
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: Player you, know he loved his. Family he was a

1125
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: family man and and that's that's who he. Was loved his.

1126
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: Teammates and there were times after practice Every, friday every Single,

1127
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: friday we would uh at the when we were The.

1128
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: Titans he was he would get catfish and hush puppies

1129
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: and and get some, beer you, know and sit out

1130
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: and talk talk ship in the in the back office

1131
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: and the equipment room and just just vibees watch you.

1132
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: Know Every, friday would we would do. THAT i love

1133
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: those days because the days were over a short day

1134
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 1: getting out Good. Friday. Man it was the absolute. Best

1135
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: and he would give you the shirt off office's back for,

1136
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: you you. Know and that's how he. WAS i remember

1137
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: a time WHEN i was was a worst game THAT

1138
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: i probably played as a. Pro it was A monday

1139
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: night game Against. Baltimore fumbled the balls coming off of

1140
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: a toe. Injury my mother wind up winds up getting

1141
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: arrested for, something and uh coming to the game and

1142
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: it's and the final after the game, Show i'm like

1143
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: feeling really, low you, know dad and this and barracked

1144
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: all this, stuff and he calls me up and it's just,

1145
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: hey two seven, man let's go out and get something to.

1146
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: Eat you, KNOW i know how you're. Feeling and he

1147
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: was that type of type of, teammate you, know always

1148
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: protecting his. Brothers BUT i watched this, man you, know

1149
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of adversity during his time as a.

1150
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: Quarterback being An African american, quarterback he had to door a.

1151
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: Lot it took him time to find his. GAME i

1152
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: think there were times when we handcuffed him because of his.

1153
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: Abilities steve was a quarterback that wasn't the, pockets stand

1154
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: in the, pocket throw the ball down field type of.

1155
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: Guy and he could do those, things but he needed

1156
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: weapons around. Him he needed to be the highlight of the.

1157
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: Offense he wasn't the type of this play action and

1158
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: then throw it to the. Flat you. Know he had,

1159
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: special special skill. Set so it wasn't until two thousand

1160
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: and one two that they really began to put the

1161
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: reins in his hands and allow him to, become you,

1162
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: know the wizard on the. Field he really went from

1163
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: an elementary offense to be coming to having a PhD

1164
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: literally on the field calling his own, plays going five

1165
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: wives and we didn't even have the. Plays we needed

1166
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: to go over the plays and. Practice he would know

1167
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: how to check and manipulate the defense and win the,

1168
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: run win the. SLIDE i mean just all the nuances

1169
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: that you wanted to see out of a. Quarterback and

1170
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: he has watched his confidence grow over time where he

1171
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: can put the ball on your ear. Lob but there

1172
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: was also a time when he couldn't throw a five

1173
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: yeard out because his confidence was so. Low so to

1174
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: watch the drastic difference from one player to the next

1175
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: was incredible to see, that and it was all based

1176
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: off of one thing was. Perseverance he persevered through the,

1177
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: doubt through the, naysayers through personal, doubt through his own personal,

1178
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: demons not wanting to play the. Game there was a

1179
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: game when Against Kansas city when he got hit in the.

1180
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: Sternum he was boot off the, field didn't want to

1181
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: play football. AGAIN i wanted to come back two or

1182
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: three weeks. Later ah just cold off the bench in

1183
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter through the game. Win he touchdown Against

1184
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: pittsburgh and three. Rivers so it was all those little things, that,

1185
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: man this dude is just mentally. Tough he was physically,

1186
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: tough but more so mentally inspiracy tough than anything.

1187
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 2: Else damn are there are there a couple of plays

1188
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: that would define you guys as arguably being the two

1189
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: Best titans that ever put on a, uniform or are

1190
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 2: there a couple of plays like you're in the moment

1191
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 2: he might go off cuff and be, like, hey now

1192
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna do, this or some you know something that's, like,

1193
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: uh would be fun to to kind of know about

1194
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 2: that doesn't go with the ebbs and flows of every other.

1195
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: Story, Well steve during HIS mvp year wouldn't practice during the.

1196
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: Week oh really? Nah he would always as TO, qb

1197
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: would not practice during the. Week we did not see.

1198
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: Him he was in the in the training room taking a.

1199
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 1: Nap He'll Sanford AND's son the price is, Right matt

1200
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: lock all. Out that was his. Thing he would watch

1201
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: all those shows and they would come out to. Practice

1202
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: because he was banged up a. Lot so we were

1203
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: In New. York we were playing In New York. GIANTS

1204
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: i think we lost suggest a week before and he

1205
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: could not move like his. TOE i think he had

1206
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: a toe injury or a knee. Injury he was banged

1207
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: up from head to toel and we were losing the.

1208
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: GAME i think a boy like fourteen, points fifteen points

1209
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: or something like, that and he led us to a,

1210
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: COMEBACK i mean just with five, wives no, HUDDLE i

1211
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: think for the last for the last, quarter and he

1212
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: led us to a comeback in A New york. Market

1213
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: and that to me was just so impressive because he

1214
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:50,479
Speaker 1: never gave. Up he never shied away from. Adversity even

1215
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: when we were down and. Losing he always was going

1216
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: to come up and show. Up another thing About steve,

1217
01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: too and when he was in, college he Played Youngstown

1218
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: state In youngstown and it's blistering, cold it's like fifteen below,

1219
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: zero playing in the playoff, game and he's not he's

1220
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 1: not playing. Well he knows he's leaving the next year

1221
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: after the, season but he continues to play deep into

1222
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and there getting their asses kicked in the,

1223
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: cold and continues to fight for his teammates in. Himself

1224
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: so he is another example of how selfless he was

1225
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: as a quarterback and as a. Person it's.

1226
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: Amazing, yeah that, Was, uh that's, wild. MAN i, mean

1227
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: how how how do you when you first heard the?

1228
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: News what went through your mind when he had you,

1229
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: know and everything went down and. Happened, WELL i DIDN'T

1230
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: i didn't believe. IT i didn't want to believe, it

1231
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: but when it was confirmed it was still is a. Shot,

1232
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: yeah there's something you never get, over you, know the

1233
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: moment you find. OUT i was driving back From, atlanta

1234
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: my life and my. Son we were coming back to

1235
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: celebrate The fourth Of, july and it was not a

1236
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: cloud in the. Sky it was a hot summer, day

1237
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: and as we got closer to town and the words started to,

1238
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: spread it just felt like it was like a haze

1239
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: over the. City it started to rain and pour for three,

1240
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: days for three, days and the city was just. Down

1241
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: it was like the worst loss you can ever. Imagine

1242
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: and you go to, sleep wake up hoping that it

1243
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: was just a bad, dream but only realized that that's

1244
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: what it, was and all the things that went around,

1245
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: it you, know was just even more. Devastating, yeah you

1246
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: know WHAT i, Mean, yeah no.

1247
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: Doubt and then everybody's probably, pulling you, know one to hear, yeah,

1248
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 2: yeah because you're, Ready, george and you, know, yeah that's.

1249
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: Unfortunate.

1250
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: Man we actually had shout, out you, Know Matt, NEELY.

1251
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 2: Rp Matt, neely we had our first social media guy

1252
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: producer for the. Bus he passed on. Us so suddenly

1253
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: last year he would have been my man would have

1254
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: had a he WOULD i had a chubby back, there

1255
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 2: like it's so ecstatic that.

1256
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: You were on the, bomb, Man but that one was sudden, too,

1257
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: man and it was that's just. Crazy that's why you

1258
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: have to take every day as a. Blessing. Bro you

1259
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: can't take any day for. Granted you know What i'm,

1260
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: Saying you really have. To just waking up is the.

1261
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: Gift LIKE i can get up and if you can,

1262
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: walk see touch, here all your elements in alignment and

1263
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: are in good. SHAPE i, mean that's another. Blessing and

1264
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: the fact that you can see your loved ones and

1265
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: they're doing well is another. Blessing because there will come

1266
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: a time when your numbers, called your numbers called.

1267
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, yeah, well shifting from a shifting to A i

1268
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: wouldn't say lighter, note BUT i want to talk about

1269
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: your transition to from The titans To dallas and how

1270
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: that transition. Was, now did you was your contract up

1271
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: and you went To dallas where you? Traded were you?

1272
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: RELEASED i was? Released talk about that?

1273
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: Time, well that time was tough BECAUSE i could see

1274
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: the writing on the. WALL i was a little long

1275
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: in the tooth age, WISE i was thirty thirty one years.

1276
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: OLD i had a lot of knowledge on my. Body of,

1277
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: course they wanted me to take a pay cut and, said,

1278
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: OKAY i. CAN i can do, that but to what,

1279
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: extent you, know to the point WHERE i wasn't going

1280
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: to be protected in terms of, well if they could

1281
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: they wanted to cut me in the middle of the

1282
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 1: season or during, preseason they could do that with no.

1283
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: Repercussions SO i just wanted a little more reassurance that

1284
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: what you say was you going to, do is you're

1285
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: going to. Do you're going to allow me to come,

1286
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: in get my body, right come back and you, know

1287
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: just got my veteran at this. Time just let me

1288
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: ride out. Hard you, KNOW i still want to be

1289
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: able to get the. Opportunities that's WHAT i wanted wanted to.

1290
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: Do but they had plans of making me the second down,

1291
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: guy only limiting me to a certain amount of. Plays

1292
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: and that's, fine but in terms of the dollar, VALUE

1293
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: i had TO i had to protect, that and we

1294
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: just never could see out of eye on. That SO i, said,

1295
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: Okay Bill, parcells he does well with. Veterans there could

1296
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: be a resurgence. There they have a talented. Roster they

1297
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: Had Keyshawn, Johnson Terry, Glenn Vinny Testa verity was the.

1298
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: Quarterback they had a nice offensive, line a defense that

1299
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: was was young but, nasty AND i had visions of

1300
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: being that back that Oj anderson was for him at

1301
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: The New York, giants and uh SO i took a.

1302
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: Chance so this is gonna be real. Quick that transition

1303
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: was the absolute. Worst, okay was it bad outing With?

1304
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee was there a better taste in your?

1305
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: Mouth leave In? Tennessee it was BECAUSE i played them

1306
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: on A monday night game in the, preseason and our

1307
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: fans traveled down down to the, game and on our

1308
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:10,480
Speaker 1: sideline there were like twenty seven number twenty seven jerseys

1309
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: crossed out and you're this. One you're On dallas When

1310
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: i'm On. Dallas and that was hurtful Because i'm, like,

1311
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: DAMN i helped build that brand to what It yeah it,

1312
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: was and Now i'm in A dallas uniform and Only

1313
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 1: god knows what's going to happen now IS i have

1314
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: no idea how this whole thing's going to shake. Out

1315
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: and that's that's why it was a bad breakup between

1316
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: You tennessee fans and, You oh it. Was it was

1317
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: a bad. Breakup oh, man it was. Not it was

1318
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: not the storybook ending THAT i hoped for and hoping

1319
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: to go To dallas to kind of alleviate the, pain

1320
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: but it only just compounded the. Pain it just really

1321
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: spread BECAUSE i saw THAT i was going to have

1322
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: another opportunity to play football. Again so that and that was.

1323
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: It, now did you know transitioning to The dallas that

1324
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,560
Speaker 2: had this could possibly be my last year in THE.

1325
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: NFL i knew it was going to be my, last

1326
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: either my last year With dallas or With tennessee one

1327
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: or the. OTHER i wasn't quite. SURE i, mean, GRANTED

1328
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: i had one thousand yards coming off a thousand yards,

1329
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: season right, Yeah SO i don't know if the production

1330
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: was justified to, say you, know we need to he

1331
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: didn't have it. Anymore but WHEN i went To, DALLAS

1332
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: i kind of felt my heart that my love for

1333
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: the game was not the, same and the guys in

1334
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: locker room was, different AND i couldn't play for a.

1335
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: PAYCHECK i just couldn't do. IT i wasn't going to

1336
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: play just to get to SAY i got a rank

1337
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: somewhere and had nothing to do with. It so it

1338
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: was time for me to move on to something. Different,

1339
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: yeah that's always it's always, tough, man you, know going

1340
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: to different locker going to a different locker, room especially

1341
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 1: in your, situation like you, know doing what you did

1342
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: for the state Of.

1343
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: Tennessee and when you mentioned the whole it's hard to

1344
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 2: play for a, Paycheck like like when you play, football,

1345
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,919
Speaker 2: dude you there's got to's there's a level of commitment

1346
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: no matter no matter. What and the way it sounded

1347
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: like from Coach fisher and then the way you alluded

1348
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: to during high school and college and everything like, that

1349
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: the work ethic that you put into. It it's just

1350
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 2: when you lose a little bit of that, passion it's

1351
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: you just see it. Differently, yeah you just see it.

1352
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: Differently like it's just you start looking like just another

1353
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: directions for different. Things and like when you lose that

1354
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: passion of playing ball and like wanting to like you,

1355
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: know put your face and, everything and then that kind

1356
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: of just goes. Away it's just it's. Different it's harder

1357
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: to play for that, paycheck it really.

1358
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: Is it really is just like why AM i doing?

1359
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: This and then you start Thinking i'm wearing a Number

1360
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: i'm wearing a number on my back right, now And

1361
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: i'm thirty something years. Old it's a young man's. Game

1362
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: so what's the next. Game If i'm wearing a number

1363
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: on my back And i've gotten paid fairly well on

1364
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: my my, career what is the guy that's writing the?

1365
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: Paycheck what is he? Worth how does he make his?

1366
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: Money how to get to where he wanted to. Be

1367
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: that's the next, step you. KNOW i want to be

1368
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: the check writer versus having someone dictate my. Future so

1369
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 1: that's around that. Time that's WHEN i began to start

1370
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: reading business, books reading books on, corporations reading books on

1371
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: great leaders Like Jack, welch you, know ge and good to,

1372
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: great you, know at that particular, time just just just

1373
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: doving into different owners in terms of how they conducted their.

1374
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: Business say what you want About Jerry. Jones the man

1375
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: is a beast. MAN i, mean, yeah. PERIOD i have

1376
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: a lot of respect AND i Love Jerry. Jones he's an.

1377
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: Entrepreneur he gets, it and he understands. Marketing he understands

1378
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: how to leverage his. BRAND i, Mean Dan dallas IS

1379
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: i think the wealthiest team and all of. Sports oh,

1380
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: yeah and it hadn't won the championship since nineteen ninety.

1381
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: TWO i mean that says a. Lot ninety, seven ninety,

1382
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: SIX i think was it ninety? SIX i think ninety.

1383
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: Six you're, right she's in front of h thank you for.

1384
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: That it was the ninety, six, right it came out

1385
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: in ninety, Six so you, know he understands. That AND

1386
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: i have a great deal of respect for a guy like.

1387
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: That you, know he gave me an opportunity to come

1388
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: play for. Him BUT i just saw something different in

1389
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: terms of how you run different businesses from a different,

1390
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: perspective you, know but did it his, way but Certainly

1391
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: Jerry jones did his. Way so that That's those are

1392
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: the things that inspired. Me my ending inspired me to

1393
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: jump into, business into, entertainment into, entrepreneurship and to. Education

1394
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 1: and it, was you, know everything happens for a, reason.

1395
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: Right right, NOW i came ACROSS i came across an

1396
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: article where you talk about some of the challenges you

1397
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 2: had transitioning and retiring going through. That going from you,

1398
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: Know i've Talking i've had conversations WITH i mean multiple.

1399
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: Guys you know you probably were the same.

1400
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: Way but you sit there and you're you, know you're

1401
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 2: in steam rooms or hot to up cold tub and

1402
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: you're just kind of talking about next chapters and stuff like.

1403
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: That you're just, thinking, man it's like you go. THROUGH

1404
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: i TELL i try to tell young guys and guys

1405
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 2: Like i've went. THROUGH i was twenty three WHEN i.

1406
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: Came into the.

1407
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 2: League so you, know however Long i've worked to get

1408
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: to the league at twenty three years. Old Now i'm

1409
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: sitting here at thirty going on thirty. One but you,

1410
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 2: Know i'm on the back nine of my. Career but

1411
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: let's say my career was. OVER i worked UNTIL i

1412
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: was twenty three years old to play a seven year. Career, now,

1413
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: granted it's the dream that we always wanted in you're,

1414
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 2: after but it was our entire like mindset and life

1415
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 2: and identity all the way up until. Now you're trying

1416
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 2: to figure out what's going to be that next roller,

1417
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: coaster like the highs and lows of a roller, Coaster

1418
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: like what's going to be that next like adrenaline, dump because.

1419
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: That's what we. Get we, go we go to. That

1420
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: we played d one.

1421
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 2: Ball you were A heisman, Winner You're rookie of The,

1422
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 2: Year YOU'RE i, mean you Made tennessee into what it

1423
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 2: is that close to A Super. Bowl you were the

1424
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 2: man like you were you were you Were Eddie George Tennessee,

1425
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: titan and then you got to go into this chapter

1426
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: of retirement when, say, hey the treads wearing off like

1427
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: you once you figure out you're a, commodity it's a

1428
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: hard pill to swallow that your the tires are just

1429
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: wearing and, hey we're gonna have to get a new vehicle.

1430
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: In here the number one in your back, Right.

1431
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah can you talk about some of those stressful

1432
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 2: times when you right after retirement and then figuring out

1433
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: that next.

1434
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: Step, yeah it was a difficult one, exciting but, difficult

1435
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: and it was more about finding your next passion or

1436
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: finding the next purpose in your. Life you realize that

1437
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: football is a, platform not your. Purpose whether you've achieved

1438
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: great things like The hall Of, Fame Pro, Bowler All

1439
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: pro or just simply played for seven, years it's just

1440
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: still a. Platform it's what you do with it and

1441
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: identifying your purpose with that. Thereafter so it felt LIKE

1442
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: i was in the twilight zone WHEN i first. Retired

1443
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: dealt with migraine headaches because of, stress dealt with, anxiety

1444
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep at night in a gut full of, butterflies not,

1445
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: wondering wondering what's going to happen the next. DAY i

1446
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: was not happy at all in my life at that particular.

1447
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: Time my wife was, pregnant so all those things were

1448
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: just very difficult to try to make it all make, Sense, Like,

1449
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: damn what DID i just go? Through how DID i

1450
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 1: get to this? Point what DO i do? Now? But?

1451
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: Fuck who AM? I you? Know for so many YEARS i, nurtured,

1452
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: cultivated perfected my craft as a running back known as

1453
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 1: a running. Back now that's? Gone what's? Next i'm thirty

1454
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: one years. OLD i wasn't born to play football and.

1455
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,760
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Speaker 1: Day it's the beautiful, part right, Right then it's LIKE

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Speaker 1: i want to settles.

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Speaker 2: In it's like, yeah The then the next season happens

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Speaker 2: and you're starting to like watch and you're, like, yo

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Speaker 2: what what AM i trying to figure?

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Speaker 1: Out? Yeah, yeah so that all of that played a

1504
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: part into. It SO, i, UH i went to different.

1505
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: AVENUES i relied on my. EDUCATION i got into. ACTING

1506
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: i started to study. Acting you're On, broadway, Right, YEAH

1507
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 1: i went On. Broadway BUT i, STARTED i did work.

1508
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: HERE i was Doing shakespeare here in, Town Julius Caesar,

1509
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: othello did a few dramatic, plays a streetcar Named, desire Whipping,

1510
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: man all of that with a rep and that enabled

1511
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: me to really find my artistic, voice find my true

1512
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: authentic voice as in, person as a, man learning how to,

1513
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: write learning how to express. Myself but it was cathartic

1514
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 1: for me to release all of. That it was, Healing

1515
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: it was. Therapeutic it's not, therapy but it's therapeutic for

1516
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 1: me to go through all of that and to express

1517
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: it and to really identify with what just, happened and

1518
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: to make sense out of it and use it for

1519
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: my next. Purpose use it in my, speeches use it

1520
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: in my, business use it in a way to, communicate

1521
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: and on so many different levels through, film through. Theater

1522
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: And i've been blessed to the point WHERE i did

1523
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: perform On broadway in twenty. Sixteen that's, awesome you. Know

1524
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,839
Speaker 1: And i'm doing things on the front of the camera

1525
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,520
Speaker 1: as an, actor was in Cis la And The ballers

1526
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: and all of, this and it just leads itself to

1527
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: new opportunities of self expression and the same adrilla That

1528
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 1: i've gotten on the. FIELD i get in theater because it's,

1529
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,719
Speaker 1: live it's, visceral it's it's a, team it's it's telling

1530
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: a story and imaginary. Circumstances you have to rely on

1531
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: the other actors to help you and you help. Them

1532
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 1: so it's it's all of that and to do that

1533
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: night after night on A broadway. Stage And i've done

1534
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: The chicago In New, york In chicago And, toronto all

1535
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: over the country pretty, MUCH lau and that was just

1536
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: an awesome experiences that could hold like being in the

1537
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: locker room. Again, yeah you, know from that, perspective and

1538
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: it was a wonderful. Experience it continues to grow and

1539
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: develop in my life in so many different. Aspects, now

1540
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: it's that experience of being on stage and being. Vulnerable,

1541
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: yeah you, know how'd you find? Acting acting found? Me,

1542
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: ACTUALLY i wanted to be able to be a better.

1543
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: COMMUNICATOR i wanted. To i'm LIKE i get. Old WHEN

1544
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: i get into, SOMETHING i study, IT i do cross

1545
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: training with, IT i do all types of stuff to

1546
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,520
Speaker 1: do best at. It and WHEN i got into, commentating

1547
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: that's WHAT i wanted to. DO i wanted to be a, more,

1548
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 1: better communicator and storyteller and just have different tools to rely.

1549
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: On SO i, said let me get into, acting and

1550
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i was still getting parts and opportunities to do.

1551
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: That but it wasn't UNTIL i jumped on stage THAT

1552
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: i really felt the bug for, like, ooh this is.

1553
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: DIFFERENT i mean literally going on stage for the first

1554
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: time is like stripping, down you, know naked and then

1555
01:25:55,200 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: walking out. There, YEAH i mean. Nervous were you before

1556
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: the first time you go out on. Stage my first

1557
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: time on stage was extremely. Nervous i'm pacing back and

1558
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: forth and you can't, react LIKE i can't make somebody miss,

1559
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: there run somebody. Over you got to stick to the. Script,

1560
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i completely went. BLANK i saw the bright,

1561
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: lights felt the, heat got stage, fright and it was all.

1562
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: Over started making up shit on the spot and got through.

1563
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: It BUT i, said you know, what that was such

1564
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: a rush for, me AND i was not going to

1565
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: be defined or defeated by. That i'm going to go perfect.

1566
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: It and that's WHAT i. Did you, know that's.

1567
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: Awesome do you feel like you took the disciplines and

1568
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: the everything you learned From ball and you're, like, Yeah

1569
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 2: i'm just going to maneuver it and put it in

1570
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: a different verbiage and the same type of, practices and

1571
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: without a, doubt energy and effort into this the.

1572
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: Same work ethic THAT I i applied to my craft in,

1573
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i put it into, acting the same exact. THING

1574
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: i took voice, lessons, yeah you, know singing lessons to

1575
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: help my speaking. Voice but my, coach my acting, Coach

1576
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: Anna Maria, franzella who's no longer with, us said you can,

1577
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: sing And i'm, like well, Please just.

1578
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 2: They KNOW i stayed in the, car in the, shower

1579
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: BUT i don't know about loud loud on.

1580
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: Stage and the great thing is is that ALWAYS i

1581
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: could play the role Of Billy. Flynn and those are

1582
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: some of the songs that we practiced. With and when

1583
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: the opportunity presented itself from me to, AUDITION i was

1584
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: ready for. That And i'll never forget it was in

1585
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and, fifteen fourteen it was that was, Fifteen,

1586
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: no it was, fourteen excuse, me twenty, fourteen going Is

1587
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 1: November WHEN i was asked to audition AND i, said,

1588
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 1: well they asked IF i could. SING i was, like, hell,

1589
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: YEAH i can. SING i was thinking some voice. Lessons,

1590
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: yeah And i'm, like oh, SHIT i gotta figure this.

1591
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: OUT i never sing out loud or way away from

1592
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 1: the track, before but we want to figure it. Out

1593
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be a great story one way or the.

1594
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: Other SO i get my, fedora get a nice beautiful

1595
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: black suit with the damn the tie and the. Stripes

1596
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: everything out, Said i'm going to go in As Billy.

1597
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: Flynn go up To New york And Bashedor theater on

1598
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: thirty ninth And, broadway AND i walk in the bows

1599
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 1: of the theater and Immediately i'm intimidated Because i'm thinking to,

1600
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: myself some great actors have performed on the. Stage, Okay

1601
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: i've been played with some great, venues you, Know, Baltimore,

1602
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: oakland The Big, house all of. Them but this, one

1603
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: this little, theater was intimidating to. Me SO i go

1604
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: on on the. Stage some of the dancers are in,

1605
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 1: there some of the other actors are just getting ready

1606
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: for the nice, performance And i'm just doing an. Audition

1607
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: the piano player does very professional warms, up he's doing

1608
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: the scales and And i'm just sitting there, like, okay

1609
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: when are we gonna? Start he, Says, okay Mister george's

1610
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: gonna start from the. Top ALL i care about is

1611
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: love with? Key are you? In AND i was, like

1612
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: THAT'S i have what? Key the key, life what type of,

1613
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Key let's figure it. OUT i don't. Know so we

1614
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 1: go through the, scales find my. Key then we go

1615
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 1: and do all the care about his, love cracking notes.

1616
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: Everywhere But i'm going all out and having a, ball

1617
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: having a. BLAST i go through all my sides with

1618
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 1: the acting coach And i'm doing it And i'm just having.

1619
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: Fun it's Being Billy flynn losing. Myself and the theater

1620
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: is empty and it's dark lit and his the lights

1621
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: are up. There and THEN i go about to go

1622
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 1: through this for about thirty minutes and Then i'm here

1623
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: this clapping AND i hear. This oh my, god that was.

1624
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: Amazing it Was Barry, wisely the lead producer for the.

1625
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 1: Show he, says let's do. It let's do. It, yeah

1626
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: let's do. It just come this doing On. Broadway my

1627
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 1: people will get in touch with your. People And i'm,

1628
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 1: like oh my. GOD i was. Hyped but he, said

1629
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: my people will be in touch with your. People his

1630
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: people did not get in touch with my. People some

1631
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: a year, LATER i, THOUGHT i have to washing maybe

1632
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 1: we made. It, yeah, yeah it had heard. Anything hey

1633
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: they called no not. YET i think it's you know,

1634
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: Right So i'm thinking he, said all, right he's wanted

1635
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 1: to get me to hell out the. Theater so, okay

1636
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 1: this guy was. Terrible to say something nice and get

1637
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 1: him out of. Here BUT i did it man in twenty,

1638
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: sixteen and been doing their shows up UNTIL covid last,

1639
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: year and it's been a wonderful. Experience, bro that's. Awesome, yeah,

1640
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: man that's.

1641
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 2: Awesome and you also say you you have a financial.

1642
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: Business yes about. That. Yeah during the TIME i was

1643
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: getting ready For, BROADWAY i was gonna, say because you

1644
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: open this up a little bit, back didn't. You, yeah it.

1645
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Was it was right around the same. Time SO i

1646
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: do my, audition and of, course like anything, ELSE i

1647
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: went and got my master's in. BUSINESS i Got, yeah

1648
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: that's awesome, Too. Northwestern, yeah that was a wonderful. Experience

1649
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and. Nine SO i was looking for the

1650
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: bones of a business THAT i could. Grow something was

1651
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: passionate about recurring, revenue had the potential to really for

1652
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: growth that can take it to. SCALE i had started

1653
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 1: my own landscape architecture firm back, then and that's why

1654
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: it inspired me to go to learn more about. Business

1655
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: and to say the, least that wasn't where my passion.

1656
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Was it was more. Entrepreneurial so what wasn't where your

1657
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: passion was in terms of landscape. Architecture that was my

1658
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:48,719
Speaker 1: original that was my original. Business and then you realise

1659
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: you're kind of just falling in love with the whole, creation, visuation,

1660
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: vision building an actual. BUSINESS i had visions of building

1661
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 1: a billion, dollar big, Company that's what my goal is

1662
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: this but it just Wasn't it just wasn't. There i'll

1663
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: leave it. There SO i decided THAT i needed to

1664
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: find something different THAT i was passionate about THAT i,

1665
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: knew and finances was something that kind of resonated with

1666
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 1: me in terms of helping young men like other, athletes

1667
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: avoid the pitfalls That i've seen others fall into and

1668
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: What i've already been through from bad business dealings to financial,

1669
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 1: advisors to the agents and so, forth teach the curriculum

1670
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 1: WHICH i did At Ohio, state and you, know guide

1671
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: their financial future while building my assets under. Management so

1672
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: WHILE i was studying for The rule Of Billy, FLYNN

1673
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 1: i was studying to get My series seven at the same.

1674
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: Time AND i remember having the. CHOICE i was, like.

1675
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: DAMN i was, conflicted, like, damn how AM i going

1676
01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 1: to get ready for to go On broadway to perform

1677
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 1: on The broadway stage while Also i'm getting in the

1678
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: middle of getting My serious Seven and GRANTED i already

1679
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: invested my time into getting my sixty, six sixty five

1680
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: all that, Stuff AND i, SAID i have to make

1681
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: a decision on WHAT i want to do UNTIL i

1682
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: thought to, MYSELF i, said, well, shit let me do.

1683
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: Both and that's exactly WHAT i. DID i would study

1684
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 1: my for My serious seven in the, morning take. Tests,

1685
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: AFTERNOON i would go and study with my acting, coach

1686
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: songs and, script come right back that, night do another

1687
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: test or, two go to bit and do that for

1688
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: four months. Straight BECAUSE i was determined to turn my

1689
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: platform into, education, entrepreneurship and, entertainment AND i can do

1690
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: all of them, simultaneous, simultaneously and that's what it. Is

1691
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: So i've developed my wealth management business To Edward George

1692
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: Wealth Management. GROUP i have two other. PARTNERS i focus

1693
01:33:56,240 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 1: on high network individuals a few. Athletes foundations work with

1694
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: specialty groups in terms of maintaining and preserving their wealth

1695
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: through different platforms independent. Firm And i'm also again teaching

1696
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: young athletes that are aspiring to be in our position one.

1697
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 1: Day the case studies on what the lookout for in

1698
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: terms of bad business dealings and bad bad advisors and

1699
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: how to vet out a financial. Advisor how much you

1700
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 1: pay your financial, advisor if you if you pay him?

1701
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: Exactly and how.

1702
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 2: This says in the, Beginning, yeah, right you know What i'm,

1703
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 2: saying hidden cost, fees all that stuff's actually.

1704
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: So what is how do you how do you? Pay

1705
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: how he gets paid through? Commission he gets paid there's

1706
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 1: a rap, Fee but what's that rap? Fee and? All

1707
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 1: what does he have you? In where's your four one k?

1708
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: Going do you have? Insurance? Oh how can you use your?

1709
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: Insurance you know What i'm, saying you can Use there

1710
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: are certain benefits you can use for your insurance as a,

1711
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 1: BANK i mean just little things that can help you put,

1712
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 1: yourself put the eating a seat of power versus lending

1713
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: their power over to somebody that says they have their

1714
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: best interest in. Mind and the only thing that you

1715
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: have that you can rely on is the trust. Factor

1716
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: he's going to do the right thing and how it's.

1717
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Structure so all of those, things and.

1718
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 2: Those dudes when you're sitting across room at the table

1719
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 2: when you were a young cat and they got the

1720
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 2: whole script to kind of, script you, know the background

1721
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 2: they went to where you're just, like, oh this makes

1722
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: sense for me as an. Athlete and then next, thing you,

1723
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 2: know like guys are vocal that, Hey i'm always walking, like,

1724
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 2: hey it's a fact that seventy to eighty percent of

1725
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: guys go bankrupt within five years of playing in THE.

1726
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Nfl from that thirty for, Thirty hey all of, Us hey,

1727
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: boys all of us in.

1728
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 2: Here i'll be in the locker. Room, hey all of

1729
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 2: us in here ain't making it after five? Years, Right

1730
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:45,919
Speaker 2: and you, know because you see guys.

1731
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Come in with new, chains you do all, this do all.

1732
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: That but you know that's that's awesome that you. STARTED

1733
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 1: i had no. Idea, yeah do you are you?

1734
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 2: Pretty are you pretty engaged with like does THE pa

1735
01:35:58,400 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 2: reach out to?

1736
01:35:58,880 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 3: You?

1737
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 1: Like are you engaged with the? Player were able to educate? Kids? Yeah,

1738
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 1: Well i've been. TEACHING i was teaching At Ohio state

1739
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: for the last five years the business and professional, sports

1740
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: AND i brought in somebody from that makes it the

1741
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:21,799
Speaker 1: entire business front, OFFICE gm, agent Financial, ADVISOR, nflpa someone

1742
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,520
Speaker 1: from the league, offices and they talk about their, Functions

1743
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: you talk about our job, descriptions what they, do how

1744
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 1: they look at, athletes how they look at the. Sports

1745
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 1: so you can get a well rounded view of how

1746
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: we are a commodity and not necessarily a. Person and

1747
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 1: then you begin to see how, easy if you do things,

1748
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: right how easy it is to go financially. Broke.

1749
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 2: Right you know what you had to quote that resonated with.

1750
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 2: ME i heard you on a. Podcast it was you

1751
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 2: helped me. Out it's like something about gross and. Net

1752
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: you live by the grocer'll die by the. NET i

1753
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 2: think that's where lived by the, Gross you'll die by the.

1754
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 1: Net. Yeah so if you think that what we see

1755
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 1: on television in terms of free agents signing one hundred

1756
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: million dollar, deal, yeah the ticker that come, across is

1757
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: it really one hundred? Million, no, exactly we do that,

1758
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 1: Right so it's, pulling you, know the smoking mirrors behind

1759
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: and it's a significant amount of. Money but understanding the tax,

1760
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: bracker you're going Into Uncle sam's going to get his, cut,

1761
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 1: Right your agent gets his and it's still a good.

1762
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 1: Nut but is it a good is that generational? Wealth

1763
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: it's a good start to generational wealth if it's handled.

1764
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 1: Appropriately the guy that cut the, check that's generational. Wealth

1765
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: you know What i'm. Saying so there's a. Difference SO

1766
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: i wanted. PEOPLE i wanted others outside the, business or

1767
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: even kids that are getting into the business to realize

1768
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: That i'm just starting with. This the end goal is not.

1769
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: Now now is not the time to buy A lamborghini

1770
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 1: and five, houses you know across the country from my

1771
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,799
Speaker 1: mom and, dad thinking THAT i have one hundred million

1772
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: dollars now you. Don't you probably got twenty five of.

1773
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: That but guess what if you keep spending ten it

1774
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: chunks into that and you realize that your next egg

1775
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: that you have is down next to. Nothing when you,

1776
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: retire you're better, off you, know starting, small rent the

1777
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: first couple of, years establish your INVESTOR, dna get the

1778
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 1: right advisors around. You you don't have to hit for home,

1779
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: runs you, know manufacture runs base hits every. Day find

1780
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 1: something that's going to bring, you say a safety. Net

1781
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: you want to have something that's going to preserve your

1782
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: wealth and something that's going to generate your wealth those three,

1783
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: buckets and how are you going to do? That you

1784
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: know What i'm, saying that's the. Philosophy so don't feel

1785
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: like you have to go be the lead investor for

1786
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,759
Speaker 1: a real estate project and you're the bank. Guy they're

1787
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: been depending on you to the fund their. Dream that's

1788
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: where you go. Wrong i've seen, it you, know time

1789
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: and time again with with athletes THAT i played, with played.

1790
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 1: Against how we get sucked into that because we just don't.

1791
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 1: Know you don't. Know guys just don't.

1792
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 2: Know and you you use the example of a hundred,

1793
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 2: million one hundred million dollar guy like those guys that's

1794
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 2: the one percent of the one percent in THE. Nfl

1795
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 2: majority of guys are you, know journeyman like, myself or

1796
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 2: they're making you, know those smaller contracts throughout their.

1797
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:30,440
Speaker 1: Career but you still have those same those those same.

1798
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 2: Distractions off of the field because they think you're the you,

1799
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 2: know everybody's, saying, hey once you're in THE, nfl you',

1800
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 2: hey once you get the shield on, you there's a

1801
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 2: target on. You so it doesn't matter if you're making

1802
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 2: the hundred million or you're making the minimum like everyone thinks, like,

1803
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:45,799
Speaker 2: oh you made.

1804
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 1: It you're, rich you're, that and it's just it's not the.

1805
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 2: Case and how do you go about when guys want

1806
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 2: to sit you down or pick your brain or you

1807
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 2: go and. Speak how do you speak to those guys

1808
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 2: in a way that like a fundamental change can happen

1809
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 2: or a shift can happen for.

1810
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 1: Somebody, WELL i just try to be authentic and tell

1811
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: them the, truth be as transparent AS i can, be

1812
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,919
Speaker 1: based off my, experience my first what's your worst.

1813
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 2: Experience that you can teach? Somebody you're like, this this

1814
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 2: is what happened with me.

1815
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 1: WHEN i first got into THE. Nfl WHEN i first

1816
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: signed on the dotted line to get my, check it

1817
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: was my signing, bonus and my agent pulls me, aside

1818
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 1: tells me that the guy THAT i chose my financial,

1819
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 1: advisor is hearing bad things about him AND i shouldn't

1820
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: put my money with. Them long story, SHORT i tell

1821
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: my mom to take the money and go To philadelphia

1822
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 1: putting in the. Bank let's let's see what. Happens two days,

1823
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 1: LATER i get the phone call from THE fbi saying

1824
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 1: or from the bank saying that they this gentleman tried

1825
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 1: to pull money out of the. Account well no money was,

1826
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: there thank, god because he was caught going To South

1827
01:40:54,280 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 1: america with for investment and running A ponzi. Scheme no,

1828
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: shit no, shit first time, out so immediately out the.

1829
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 1: Gate this guy was a smooth, talker had everybody on his,

1830
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: list you, know from, entertainers different. Athletes it was a,

1831
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 1: boutique set up a. SHOP i remember him trying to

1832
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: get me to sign a power attorney so he could

1833
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: legally move the. Money you see What i'm. Saying so

1834
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 1: he got me a, loan BUT i never signed. It

1835
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: so those are the things THAT i just, recall and

1836
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:33,799
Speaker 1: is a bunch of. Others they come in different shape,

1837
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: sizes The agos of the WORLD i call, them you,

1838
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 1: know in terms Of, shakespeare The. Agos they appear to

1839
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 1: be your, friend but they have a different aultorious motive behind.

1840
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 1: You you, know incentives drive. Behavior it always. Does so

1841
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: if somebody is around you, questioned why are they around?

1842
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 1: You why are they catering to? You what is their ulterior?

1843
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 1: Motive and if you're leaning on that person for information

1844
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: or to be the business, guy that's not a wise.

1845
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: Choice you really need to understand the language how contracts

1846
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: are set, up how LLCs are set up all of

1847
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: this stuff so you're not burnt in the end of

1848
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: holding the, bag so to. Speak so that's that's.

1849
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 2: It He any young cats listening that have aspirations to

1850
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,839
Speaker 2: go to the league that might be in college, Listening

1851
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 2: look up A george's financial.

1852
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: Firm, yeah The Edward George Wealth Management. Group, yeah ed

1853
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: what is? It Edward? George, Well Edward. George, okay that's

1854
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: your first, Name. Edward, YES i love. It what's the ultimate?

1855
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Goal when you say this is kind of a this

1856
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 2: is kind of something to help propel me to the ultimate.

1857
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: Goal what is an ultimate goal of yours that you

1858
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 1: have in? Mind do you want to own a team one? Day,

1859
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:47,600
Speaker 1: no that's that's just you've talked about a couple of

1860
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: checks the, TIMES i, mean my my couple of. Hints

1861
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: you know what my goal is to create and build wealthy,

1862
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 1: individuals and not just in terms of dollar, value but

1863
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 1: in terms of, character in terms of. Principles that's that's

1864
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: what my calling is at this point in, time is

1865
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: to develop young people or people to become, entrepreneurs but

1866
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs with a purpose and and and to find their.

1867
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 1: Calling you, know in this. Life that's that's what's driving me.

1868
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: Now and that's done through uh my entrepreneurship aspirations in

1869
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:37,919
Speaker 1: wealth management and through insurance platforms, too to help others

1870
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: again achieve entrepreneurship to help their lives and the lives

1871
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 1: of others generation generational.

1872
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 2: Study it sounds like some mentorship exactly, exactly not just you,

1873
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 2: know you make, money they make money money there there

1874
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 2: is exactly working one on one with the. Individual understand that

1875
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 2: whoever's under, you they're part of like this this.

1876
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 1: Fraternity, exactly, yeah. Exactly so that's that's What i'm, creating

1877
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: and buy product of that will lead to to, wealth

1878
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: right and and but that's not the end. Goal but

1879
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 1: If i'm in a position to be to be an

1880
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 1: owner one, day damn. Right everything happens for a, reason that's.

1881
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Right SO i finished our team left left with that

1882
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 1: one yard. Short i'm gonna hold up A Lombardi trophy one.

1883
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,719
Speaker 1: DAY i am going to hold one. Up, hey you're hearing.

1884
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: It you know What i'm. Saying he's going to do. Something, yeah,

1885
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 1: yeah linebacker, Coach, hey there we. Go, SEE i don't,

1886
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: KNOW i kind of want.

1887
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 2: To you got me motivated now to you're gonna be

1888
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Speaker 2: DOWNSTAIRS i hope you guys are enjoying this Phenomenal Eddie george. Episode,

1940
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Speaker 2: yeah let's finish.

1941
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: It? Yeah DID i love? It?

1942
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 2: Man let's talk a Little. Titans how are you feeling

1943
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 2: about the boys this?

1944
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,799
Speaker 1: Year it's hard to figure out about the, boys because,

1945
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: damn is it going to be a? SEASON i think.

1946
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 1: So don't you think there's gonna be? One don't you

1947
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 1: think it's at least that is going to. START i

1948
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 1: hope it's. SUSTAINABLE i think there's done a nice job

1949
01:47:54,360 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 1: of keeping everything at. Bay the protocols are. Tight no

1950
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 1: one can come into the. FACILITY i, mean we hadn't

1951
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 1: heard any cases of guys catching. Anything that's been. Great

1952
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: now it's a question of when they begin to, travel

1953
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 1: how that's going to. Operate right right once they said

1954
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 1: on a, plane go to another. Hotel so assuming let's

1955
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 1: just assume the. Best, okay we're optimistic. Here they. LIKE

1956
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: i like the makeup of the. TEAM i like the.

1957
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 1: CHEMISTRY i like the fact that they play for each.

1958
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 1: Other there's genuine love. There they have an. Identity, DEFENSIVELY

1959
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 1: i want to see What Vic beasley Is Vic, beasley, right,

1960
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: YES i want to see what he brings to the

1961
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 1: table from the. PAST i think they need a premiere past,

1962
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: rusher AND i thought that going into last season they

1963
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:51,639
Speaker 1: needed somebody that can disrupt the quarterback with just getting

1964
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 1: a four man. Rush of, Course Derrick henry Is Dereck.

1965
01:48:55,720 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 1: HENRY i like the new kid From Appalachian date the running.

1966
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: Back oh, Yeah. Evans he's going to be a utility

1967
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,759
Speaker 1: guy that they can rely on the return game short

1968
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 1: and also as a third down guy In, TANDYHILL i.

1969
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 1: Am i'm curious to see if he can now take over.

1970
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:19,679
Speaker 1: Games you, know it's one thing to manage your game

1971
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,720
Speaker 1: and handle twenty two and let's your line lean on the. Team,

1972
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 1: now when they line. Up, okay nine in the box

1973
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 1: and we've seen it last year nine in the. Box

1974
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 1: we're committed now to Stopping derek and he cannot beat.

1975
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 1: Us how Is Tandy hill going to do? It you, know?

1976
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 1: Consistently AND i think he can do. It he's put

1977
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:42,600
Speaker 1: the ball. There so saying all of, that they have

1978
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: everything they need, Offensively john New smith is going to

1979
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: be a. SUPERSTAR i love the. RECEIVERS Aj brown is

1980
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 1: going to be a. Superstar so they have levels to

1981
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:56,560
Speaker 1: their offense that they're multi dimensional and it's going to

1982
01:49:56,600 --> 01:50:00,120
Speaker 1: be tough to compete with. That And Mike vrabel is

1983
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 1: a phenomenal how what was the year of separation? There

1984
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 1: this one year amate he was an? Asshole he is an,

1985
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 1: asshole but an asshole you love and when you when

1986
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: he's on your, squad that's the asshole that you want

1987
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 1: because he's going to knock you in the mouth and

1988
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: talk about you and and and do everything he. Needs

1989
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 1: he's going to tell you just exactly how he, feels you, Know.

1990
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 1: Mike mike was a damn freshman calling out. Upperclassmen you're

1991
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:37,559
Speaker 1: not you're not you're not touching the, line you, know

1992
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: sprints or you're going. HALFWAY i, mean he'll call your ass.

1993
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 1: Out and that's that's how he operates who he is?

1994
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 2: Now is that, too because he's the same. Person he's

1995
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 2: still trying to hit somebody in the. Mouth as a,

1996
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 2: coach he, loves.

1997
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: He loves the, contact he loves, teaching he loves, mentoring

1998
01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 1: he loves to create a winning. Product so you throw

1999
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: all that into the. Mix and What Amy adams is

2000
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: doing And John, robinson what they're doing this they're on

2001
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: the they're on the road to some great some great.

2002
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: THINGS i think so.

2003
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 2: Too what's been what's been your favorite off season? Move

2004
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 2: obviously they've brought a lot of pieces back the, draft.

2005
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: Free, agency their own. Guys which one's been your favorite? Move,

2006
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 1: well it's tough to say my favorite right now because

2007
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna need a, Favorite we're gonna need a preseason. Favorite,

2008
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 1: well here's the thing, IS i haven't seen him, yet

2009
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 1: AND i THINK i think the draft choice out Of

2010
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: Georgia Wilson Isaiah.

2011
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 2: Wilson oh, yeah ye, hey he's a big motherfucker.

2012
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 1: Dude oh he's a. Problem, yes he's a problem in

2013
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 1: the trenches and you're throwing, Now derek's got some help

2014
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: there another another mauler in between the. Tackles oh my,

2015
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 1: god it's going to be nasty in. There.

2016
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:58,600
Speaker 2: Man, HEY i was surprised you said. That IF i

2017
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 2: figured you would have said the hen are you getting?

2018
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 1: This? Uh that's what.

2019
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 2: Happened, Yeah but did you know that the whole, time

2020
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 2: even when it was getting it's still gonna.

2021
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,719
Speaker 1: Happen maybe you might have. Knew you might have known per. Source,

2022
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: no you never known this. Business but they would have

2023
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:16,639
Speaker 1: been foolish not to do. It and you, know they

2024
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 1: found the win. Win they were going to figure it.

2025
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: Out you, know The titans like to operate right close

2026
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 1: to the. Edge, yeah put time and pressure on the,

2027
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 1: athlete you know WHAT i. Mean they don't want To

2028
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 1: they want to get the most out of. It they

2029
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: want to arder than, negotiation the art, negotiation and they

2030
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: want an organizational friendly. Deal and that's you. KNOW i

2031
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 1: think they found the win win. There SO i figured

2032
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: that they had to Get derek signed and were going

2033
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 1: to get him. Signed and it was a four year. Deal,

2034
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 1: yes it turns out probably could be a three year

2035
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 1: somewhere around there where he's. AT i want to say

2036
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 1: the first two are pretty, guaranteed and that third year

2037
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 1: is kind of. Iffy the funny money comes Into, Yeah

2038
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 1: i'm so guarantees about nineteen eight twenty one million or

2039
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: something like. That so, YEAH i think it's a win. Win.

2040
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah who's who would you say is your favorite player

2041
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 2: on The? Titans, WOW i want to Say mine is

2042
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 2: turning into A. J. Brown that's what mine turned. Into

2043
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 2: Delaney walker WHEN i was on the. TEAM i Loved.

2044
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 2: DELANEY i love being Around. Delaney he was kind of

2045
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 2: just my. FAVORITE i just always, like, yeah, right well my.

2046
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 2: FAVORITE i think mine is becoming A. J. Brown we've

2047
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 2: had him on the. Pod, Yeah i've seen him a

2048
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 2: couple other times FaceTime With, taylor and he's JUST i

2049
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 2: think he's. Hilarious but he's just got that that YOUNG

2050
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:41,480
Speaker 2: i don't know that it takes no shit. Attitude and he's. Confident,

2051
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:45,600
Speaker 2: yeah he's insanely. Confident and he's a. Worker he was

2052
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 2: like that AS i, mean coming in, RIGHT i mean he.

2053
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 2: Was he was pissed off about something he did in

2054
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 2: practice was real.

2055
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 1: Small i'm, like, duh it's not even got. Time, yeah

2056
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 1: but that said he was he. Was he. Was he

2057
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 1: was a. Man and the fact that he called your, Boy.

2058
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: TAYLOR i know they were talking about it on him

2059
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 1: again a, Rookie that's What i'm, saying calling out not

2060
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 1: just the big dog the, line the, richest the highest

2061
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 1: paid player on The, titans right. Yo and still talking

2062
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 1: about it when he's on the pod, like, yeah you

2063
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 1: know you. Was he was on some. Ship, HEY i love.

2064
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,719
Speaker 1: IT i Love the only THING.

2065
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 2: I didn't like caring about him is that he was

2066
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 2: one of those rookies who he was too prideful to

2067
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 2: do rookie.

2068
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Stuff, see he had the kind of that asshole. Mentality it's,

2069
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 1: like hey, man it's this part of the. Deal how

2070
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? Stuff you got to pay your?

2071
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 1: Dues you got to pay your. Dues and and the

2072
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 1: fact that that he had success last, year LIKE i,

2073
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: know kind of defeats it a little, bit but you,

2074
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 1: know he'll beat that. Veteran he is that. Veteran now

2075
01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 1: it's quickly becoming a vet that that he, Wished, like you,

2076
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 1: know you got to follow a protocol and that young

2077
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 1: hot rookie is gonna come in there and and show.

2078
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 1: Him BUT i like A. J. BROWN i think he's

2079
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 1: got tremendous. UPSIDE i like him as a. Person BUT

2080
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 1: i do LIKE i Like Johnny smith, THOUGH i think

2081
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 1: he has a chance to be really.

2082
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 2: Good, really, yeah you don't think, So, NO i think

2083
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 2: some Big Johnny smith hearing somebody else say, that call

2084
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 2: the superstar and give him respect like. That it's kind

2085
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 2: of a new thing THAT i feel like is going

2086
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 2: to come in the. Future but why do you think?

2087
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 1: So WHEN i saw what it actually happens dot THE

2088
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 1: i take a tall sweep down the right sideline for

2089
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: sylbral seventy something, Yards i'm, like, What let go throw

2090
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 1: him back, there let him get let him get some

2091
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: tokees With, derek let him split. That. Man the dudes got. Skills, Man,

2092
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 1: yeah if we're a tight, END i mean that is, remarkable,

2093
01:55:56,400 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 1: athletic fast, hands, attitude all of he's got the. BUILD i,

2094
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 1: MEAN i, LIKE i, LIKE i like him moving. FORWARD

2095
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 1: i really like his. STYLE i like what he brings

2096
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: to the. Offense he makes them multi. Dimensional now in

2097
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 1: the middle of the, field, right because if you control

2098
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 1: the middle of the, field it opens up. Everything with

2099
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: a tight end that can stretch, it that can do it,

2100
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 1: all it opens up the outside certainly is going to

2101
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: present problems for a. Defense, down, Like, okay we really

2102
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 1: can't stack the box like this because we've got a

2103
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 1: tight end that can go vertical on. You we got

2104
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 1: a receiver that's ridiculous and easy. Breast so they got some,

2105
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: options they've got some, weapons and they have some studs.

2106
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 2: Man and you, know another another thing that will play

2107
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 2: in their favor is knowing That Arthur smith is back

2108
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 2: and they kind of have the same. Offense, yep you,

2109
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 2: Know rave obviously still, there but they get to be

2110
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 2: in the system again after going to AN afc. CHAMPIONSHIP

2111
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 2: i think like that's gonna benefit then because people with

2112
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 2: new head, coaches younger, teams stuff like. That, like especially

2113
01:56:57,680 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 2: in times like, this you just don't know how the

2114
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 2: year is gonna play. OUT i think they're they can

2115
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 2: come and not miss a beat as much as any

2116
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 2: team out, there and the fact.

2117
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:12,720
Speaker 1: And nationally everybody of Course Kansas, city but when you're

2118
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 1: talking about The, south it's got to Be. Tennessee but

2119
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 1: they're still talking about The colts and, This and Then i'm,

2120
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: like all, Right, houston, Yeah houston. TOO i, mean they

2121
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 1: they they they. Are they're an interesting. GROUP i just

2122
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 1: don't THINK i don't think they have the. DISCIPLINE i

2123
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 1: don't THINK i think they like the. Discipline you, know

2124
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 1: we talk about we look at. Teams you start to

2125
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 1: talent is always every team in the league is, talented

2126
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 1: but you start looking at the makeup of a, team

2127
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 1: the character of the, team the little things that will

2128
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 1: separate you from being just good. Average and the greatest

2129
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 1: teams are the ones that can self discipline in their locker,

2130
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 1: rooms who their leaders. Are AND i don't know If

2131
01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 1: houston has. THAT i Know Deshaun watsons a grown, man

2132
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 1: but outside of, him who else is? There you, KNOW

2133
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 1: i KNOW Jj, watt but is IT i don't know

2134
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:10,839
Speaker 1: about their locker. ROOM i thinking they're that team that's

2135
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna take over The south and be there.

2136
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 2: Consistently, yeah that makes. Sense, hey your boy speaking of

2137
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 2: generational and writing. Checks And Patrick mahomes now he got

2138
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 2: that big. Deal now he's a little part owner and The.

2139
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 1: Royal i'll tell you, what, man that's a movie you

2140
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 1: like to see as an. Athlete, Yeah i'm super happy for, him.

2141
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 1: MAN i saw him at At. TAHA i was playing

2142
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 1: in the golf tournament, There American Century, championship And i'm warming,

2143
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 1: up you, Know i'm out there two hours. Beforehand i'm

2144
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 1: just trying to get. Myself, No i'm at the ars.

2145
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:54,080
Speaker 1: Beforehand that's WHY i was out. There So Patrick mahomes comes.

2146
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 1: Up it's, really you, know just laid back and just

2147
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 1: kind of open ben and he's just like all over

2148
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 1: the place and just, like, hey hey we no free

2149
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 1: no Free, willie you know. Whatever and he goes up

2150
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 1: And i'm like this first that, says your first time.

2151
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 1: Playing so he has first time playing, here but you, know,

2152
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 1: man AM i having a? Ball blah blah, blah puts

2153
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:17,200
Speaker 1: the pen and golf. On he's on his driver, pow

2154
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 1: it's one and kind of like a stinger or. Whatever i'm,

2155
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 1: like this dude's gonna he's stink up the. Spot he's

2156
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 1: like he can't. Play he gets on the, course, man

2157
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 1: and he is in the middle OF i, mean he's

2158
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 1: in the. Mix eagle, Here birdie, there par. Here i'm,

2159
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 1: like oh my, god she's loving. LIFE i, said, man

2160
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 1: that's a. Guy he's a signed half a, bee feeling

2161
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:49,560
Speaker 1: good about. Life i'm, like can care less where the ball?

2162
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 1: Goes less, said that's a guy with no stress right.

2163
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:57,160
Speaker 1: Now he's such a good he's such a great. Player,

2164
01:59:57,200 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 1: man such an exceptional, player, dude he.

2165
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 2: Is, man he just seems like he has fun, too

2166
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 2: and just competes his ass off when you're out.

2167
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 1: There he does a stroke right, there look at, that

2168
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 1: look a look at he look at. It look at.

2169
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 1: That he didn't warm. Up he only hit a couple

2170
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: of balls. Off the team didn't warm them. Up that's

2171
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:28,480
Speaker 1: five hundred Is, yeah he was like. That, MAN i get. It.

2172
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 1: Man the dude is. Phenomenal dude is. Phenomenal. Unbelievable, Yeah

2173
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 1: like when When houston went up on him like what

2174
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 1: was it three scores or, whatever and you just knew, that,

2175
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:40,560
Speaker 1: hey they're not out of it because once he does

2176
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: starts doing that flexing after a, touchdown you're just, like oh, ship,

2177
02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 1: Hey mahomes is about to turn it. Up and they did,

2178
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 1: it not once but the entire, playoffs, Right that's what

2179
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: makes them. Deadly when you have a team that can

2180
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 1: come back from adversity like that and fight through. It

2181
02:00:57,120 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 1: and they Beat houston by what by twenty? One, Right,

2182
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 1: yeah they laid it on. Him houston did not eat

2183
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:07,160
Speaker 1: him by twenty, one down by twenty four and beat

2184
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:09,600
Speaker 1: him by twenty. One oh my, god that that was

2185
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 1: remarkable to. Me.

2186
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah and then you got the leadership of him

2187
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 2: and Then Honey badger on the other, Side like you

2188
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 2: allude to leadership and things like, that like you, know

2189
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 2: obviously they got it on both, sides. Right also your

2190
02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 2: relationship With. DEREK i know a lot of people talk

2191
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 2: about your your guys', relationship your, friendship your, mentorship how

2192
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 2: you mentor, him, how how how did that come about and?

2193
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:36,800
Speaker 2: Transpire was? It was it during the when did all

2194
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:38,600
Speaker 2: of that take? Place and how are you guys the.

2195
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:41,600
Speaker 1: Highest point when you where you're at? Now, yeah when

2196
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:44,400
Speaker 1: he win The Heisman. TROPHY i was there when he.

2197
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 1: WANTED i was at his. Banquet you had a chance to.

2198
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 1: TALK i got to know him a little. Bit And,

2199
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 1: derek you, know can be a little aloof you, know

2200
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 1: when we first meet, HIM i talk a whole lot

2201
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 1: kind of quiet she, Is, YEAH i always got that

2202
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 1: fashion on. Him oh D that's why it throws you.

2203
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: Off you feel like he's gonna have some personality that's,

2204
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 1: yeah what's this? Guy you? Know but he's kind of

2205
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 1: quiet to, himself and you're like he's like it's not

2206
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 1: like you, style you, Know it's Like, OKAY i compliment

2207
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 1: you on Like i'm gonna. SNEAKERHEAD i get. IT i

2208
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 1: like the. FACT i, mean so we we had. STORIES i,

2209
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:17,720
Speaker 1: think you, know going to we had a commercial together

2210
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 1: with The Heisman, house and we really had a chance

2211
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 1: to sit and. Talk on the flight back to La

2212
02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 1: it's three hours, long and we talked maybe you, know

2213
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 1: two hours and thirty minutes of that and just about

2214
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 1: everything From bama to oh stayed and The titans and

2215
02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:39,360
Speaker 1: contracts and styles of play and so. FORTH i think

2216
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:44,880
Speaker 1: he reached out to me when who's the guy that

2217
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 1: just left running back From New? England that was he was, here,

2218
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 1: Uh Dion, Lewis Deon. Lewis When Dion lewis was brought

2219
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 1: in this, YEAR i was, There Marco murray left and

2220
02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 1: the range were going. On derek he called. Me he was, like,

2221
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: man do you think about you, Know dion coming? In

2222
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 1: what are they trying to? Do blah blah. BLAH i, said,

2223
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 1: man you, KNOW i told him, THEN i, said just

2224
02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 1: focus on. Yourself you determine how much they use. It

2225
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 1: you determine that what they want to see from you

2226
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:19,000
Speaker 1: is not you hit the home. Run you can do.

2227
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 1: That he demonstrated. That but what you do in between

2228
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:27,720
Speaker 1: the tackles, consistently how you control the game consistently with

2229
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:30,520
Speaker 1: the five yard hard, runs the four Yard And i'm

2230
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 1: telling you the big runs are going to happen if

2231
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 1: you impose your, will if you seek out, contact if

2232
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 1: you seek out the deliver, punishment those defensive backs will

2233
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 1: get out of the. Way they don't want to see

2234
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:45,400
Speaker 1: it for four quarters and you'll see the. Turnaround SO

2235
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:50,880
Speaker 1: i guess he took. That and then you know he

2236
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:52,280
Speaker 1: was pressing a little. Bit in the beginning of the.

2237
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:55,640
Speaker 1: Season you guys go over To San diego Play San.

2238
02:03:55,680 --> 02:04:00,440
Speaker 1: Diego at the time was The chargers In england In,

2239
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 1: london and it was a PLAY i want to, say

2240
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 1: in the second quarter where it Was, merriweather a linebacker

2241
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:12,480
Speaker 1: who was like maybe five. Ten look this up for,

2242
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 1: me how big Is. Merriweather he's not the, Biggest, yeah

2243
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:21,879
Speaker 1: not the not the biggest, linebacker, Right, Perryman, Perryman. Perryman

2244
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:26,640
Speaker 1: AND i, said, damn you know he elected to go off.

2245
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 1: Tackle he could have squared him, up took half his,

2246
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 1: body maybe he got three or four more yards and,

2247
02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 1: whatever but he made a. Move it made it easy for.

2248
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 1: Him to tackle, him AND i remember sitting next To Keith,

2249
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:41,280
Speaker 1: BULLOCK i, said you, see, man that he's too big

2250
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 1: to be running like the way he. Is he's trying

2251
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:46,080
Speaker 1: to hit the home. Run he's, pressing he's not having,

2252
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 1: fun he's not imposing himself as Will AND i think

2253
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 1: the whole thing With dion and splitting time and not

2254
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:54,600
Speaker 1: getting carries and all that was just messing with his.

2255
02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 1: Head and it wasn't shortly thereafter he we had the

2256
02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 1: conversation after that that trip when he called me on the.

2257
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 1: PHONE i believe it was A sunday night doing a bye,

2258
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,240
Speaker 1: week and that's that's when we had the. Heart the

2259
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:12,520
Speaker 1: heart and. Ship the. Rest the rest is literally. History

2260
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 1: he's had some, yo he had the monster, runs, MAN

2261
02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 1: i mean he's. Monster. Yeah he's emerged as a as

2262
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 1: a leader of the. TEAM i, mean hemerged as a vocal.

2263
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:30,800
Speaker 1: Leader and that's and they ride with. Him you can see,

2264
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:33,360
Speaker 1: it you can you can you can feel that they

2265
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:36,240
Speaker 1: feed off off of his. Energy oh, yeah.

2266
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:40,400
Speaker 2: They they, definitely they're definitely all. Jelling they're definitely all.

2267
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:44,480
Speaker 2: MESHING i know the old, Line, derek all of. Them

2268
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 2: they like that kind of nasty. Attitude of knowing that they,

2269
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:50,360
Speaker 2: can you, know probably like yourself back in the, day like,

2270
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:51,200
Speaker 2: hey we're gonna run the.

2271
02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 1: Ball we want to run the ball thirty. Times but, yeah, man,

2272
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 1: HEY i appreciate. You this thing is almost spent two.

2273
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 1: Hours you're almost one of the. Longest. Yeah oh, man

2274
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 1: so AM i? Boring? Huh this is? Hey this is he.

2275
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 1: A we got a bunch of. Times anybody got any questions, Ready,

2276
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:13,880
Speaker 1: hey don't just hold your breath, now go. On if

2277
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 1: if some schools wanted to make you a linebacker right

2278
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 1: coming out of coming out of high, school oh, yeah

2279
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:22,240
Speaker 1: a couple few of. Them if they if everybody wanted

2280
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 1: you to be a running, back would you have chosen?

2281
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:29,440
Speaker 1: Differently that's a great. Question that's from my. Pops If

2282
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 1: Penn state had said, yes they would need to play

2283
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 1: running back order The Nity. Lion that was my. DREAM

2284
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 1: i went there football camps as a, kid and they

2285
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:41,720
Speaker 1: just didn't offer. You they offered. Me but it's too.

2286
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 1: Late but it was to play. LINEBACKER i went to

2287
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 1: go went up there an unofficial. Visit when they Played Notre.

2288
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 1: Dame they played against The Rome bettis And Ricky waters that,

2289
02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 1: group and they beat. Them AND i go into locker

2290
02:06:57,480 --> 02:07:02,040
Speaker 1: room And i'm like and, All i'm, like, damn That's Joe, Paul,

2291
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:07,240
Speaker 1: like That's Joe paterno right, there my. Hero i'm standing

2292
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 1: there in the hallway AND i got on this goose

2293
02:07:10,120 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 1: with the fur around the hood and my my skull.

2294
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:18,840
Speaker 1: Cap and he looks at, me looks me up and,

2295
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 1: down and he goes off to the side and he

2296
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 1: Calls Frank, ganter the running back, coach over and he

2297
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:30,720
Speaker 1: whispers and looks, back and Then frank comes. Over, Hey, Eddie, yeah, yeah,

2298
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:32,440
Speaker 1: YEAH i remember you. Wing you were a football camp.

2299
02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 1: Man you've grown, up my. Guy where are? YOU i,

2300
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 1: Said i'm At Fourking Military Academy and my heart's like.

2301
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 1: This i'm, like oh my, god they're going to ask

2302
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 1: me to come On. Monday we're going to give you a.

2303
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 1: Call we're going to come down and come see. You

2304
02:07:45,680 --> 02:07:48,240
Speaker 1: so go back To. Fourking couldn't sleep the night of

2305
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:51,040
Speaker 1: like toss and turning lo and. BEHOLD i get a.

2306
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:54,720
Speaker 1: Message Tom, bradley who recoust in the, area wants to

2307
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:58,000
Speaker 1: talk to. You SO i called, him, like, hey, coach

2308
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,760
Speaker 1: how you doing? Great win on the beating The irish

2309
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:02,800
Speaker 1: and all. That, says, yeah, well we want to bring

2310
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 1: you up for a. VISIT i, said, oh that'd be.

2311
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 1: Amazing when you weep come, up we set the date or,

2312
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 1: whatever AND i, said, well are you guys looking to

2313
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:15,640
Speaker 1: recruit me as a linebacker or running? Back there's a

2314
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:19,720
Speaker 1: long pulse as well. Linebacker but thinking about, Linebacker we've

2315
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 1: got some young running. Backs we Got John, carter we

2316
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:28,400
Speaker 1: Got Stephan, pitts we Got Mike, archie and we need,

2317
02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 1: more you, know a depth at. Linebacker. Hero and that's

2318
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:36,480
Speaker 1: my heart, saying because my goal was to play running back.

2319
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 1: Period so that that that. Ended that that story, there

2320
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:42,919
Speaker 1: but long and. BEHOLD i didn't know they were independent

2321
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: at the time they become The big. Ten and that's

2322
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:48,120
Speaker 1: WHEN i will go back and play Against Penn state

2323
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:50,680
Speaker 1: for three, times beat them two out of three. Times,

2324
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 1: yeah a good, Question, alex that's my dad man shuts,

2325
02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:57,920
Speaker 1: out shut out the. Pops what About Josh? Jack come,

2326
02:08:57,960 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 1: On titans.

2327
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 5: FANS i just want to get like a little behind

2328
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 5: the scenes type thing of. You and like Ray lewis

2329
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:08,560
Speaker 5: is all y'all's old, bouts like just one on, one

2330
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:10,280
Speaker 5: just like the whole, crowd.

2331
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 1: Just like that time where you, guys that was on the.

2332
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 2: Sideline HE i, mean it wasn't like it wasn't a big,

2333
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:18,920
Speaker 2: game but you had like.

2334
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 1: Slammed into the ground you know Play i'm talking. ABOUT

2335
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:23,880
Speaker 1: i know. That what were you to on that? Play you?

2336
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 1: Know you, know you know what it, was you know

2337
02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:28,560
Speaker 1: what it. Was it was supposed to. Be that's the,

2338
02:09:28,640 --> 02:09:32,080
Speaker 1: moment like you would always, say he knocks me. Out

2339
02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:33,960
Speaker 1: that was his time to knock me out of that.

2340
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:38,080
Speaker 1: Game AND i JUST i don't. Remember rebating was a

2341
02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 1: bunch of cuss. WORDS i know. That it's a bunch of.

2342
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 1: Mfs if You i'll be back same. Play you. Know

2343
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:50,480
Speaker 1: it was a lot of going back and. Forth yeah, yeah,

2344
02:09:50,840 --> 02:09:55,640
Speaker 1: yeah a. Lot, yeah we would go at. It. MAN

2345
02:09:55,760 --> 02:10:01,120
Speaker 1: i think that, was uh the playoff. Game yeah, yeah

2346
02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:05,280
Speaker 1: that's not, no that's just the regular season. Game Was

2347
02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:08,080
Speaker 1: he probably one of your favorite defensive players to play?

2348
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 1: Against WAS i wouldn't say, favorite but because because of

2349
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 1: he was always. There he was more or less by,

2350
02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:23,560
Speaker 1: far the greatest Linebacker i've ever. Faced oh, yeah without a,

2351
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:27,839
Speaker 1: doubt because he's, smart, instinctive and if you're not, careful

2352
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:30,000
Speaker 1: he knock the ship out of. You, yeah you, know

2353
02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:31,000
Speaker 1: he was he was that.

2354
02:10:31,160 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 2: DUE i, mean, hell he's got a clip being on

2355
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 2: kickoff return and almost killing a man on a on a.

2356
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 1: Backblock, basically, yeah you know What i'm talking. About he

2357
02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:44,000
Speaker 1: told the dude to come out of the end. Zone,

2358
02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah he's, like, hey, no take it out of the.

2359
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 1: Zone he was on kick. Return that. Was that was

2360
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:53,840
Speaker 1: when Ed reid turned it for a touchdown right before

2361
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:55,840
Speaker 1: half to kick the field goal and make the field.

2362
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:59,000
Speaker 1: Goal they came. Out he Told edred to come out of.

2363
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:01,520
Speaker 2: There i'm telling you he had a kickoff return rep

2364
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:05,640
Speaker 2: like he was on special. TEAMS i swear to, GOD

2365
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:07,200
Speaker 2: i don't know why he, was but he was on

2366
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:11,040
Speaker 2: special teams type In, yeah Ray lewis kickoff return.

2367
02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 1: Do uh He i'm telling, you, WELL i. DON'T i

2368
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:18,920
Speaker 1: don't doubt it because he's that type of, player without a.

2369
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:21,280
Speaker 1: Doubt we've always had a, rival a fierce, rival me

2370
02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:24,720
Speaker 1: and him coming out of nineteen ninety. Six, man how.

2371
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 2: Uh what was the thoughts in your head when he

2372
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:29,040
Speaker 2: took that when he got that interception and took it

2373
02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:29,280
Speaker 2: to the.

2374
02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:34,520
Speaker 1: House, well, honestly prior to, that the field, goal it

2375
02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:36,880
Speaker 1: was a field goal that was blocked and returned for a,

2376
02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:42,040
Speaker 1: touchdown and that play took the win out of our

2377
02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:46,200
Speaker 1: sales because to get back into score on that defense

2378
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:51,720
Speaker 1: that year was like. Damn it was like me trying

2379
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 1: to get to the. Moon you know. It really it

2380
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:56,840
Speaker 1: was very difficult to get in the position to score

2381
02:11:56,880 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 1: against his. Defense, YEAH i, mean because they were that.

2382
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:04,480
Speaker 1: Good it ran a four to Three Sarah goosa And

2383
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:09,800
Speaker 1: Sam adams in the middle cover two beat. It that's.

2384
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 1: It it was no exotic. Blitzes they weren't trying to

2385
02:12:12,760 --> 02:12:15,240
Speaker 1: sugar look at. HIM i mean it was it was

2386
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:20,720
Speaker 1: for growning. Only so once that play, happened it was

2387
02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:22,800
Speaker 1: it was, like all, right we're out of our. Element

2388
02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:28,120
Speaker 1: it hits me. Down if you saw the ball get

2389
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:31,680
Speaker 1: tipped into his, hands right. Yeah Now baltimore fans like

2390
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:34,960
Speaker 1: to say he snatched it out of my, hands THAT

2391
02:12:35,000 --> 02:12:38,280
Speaker 1: i carried the, football that he ripped it out and

2392
02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 1: the ball was behind. Me, yeah it's it's it's, uh

2393
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:46,280
Speaker 1: but you know that, happens, man that. Happens that's that's

2394
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:49,360
Speaker 1: when it all went. Down he had six minutes and

2395
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:54,240
Speaker 1: forty seconds. Left, yeah that was. It, oh that was.

2396
02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:59,520
Speaker 1: It that was six, Minutes, yeah six forty five and

2397
02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 1: this is good pod. Boys, yeah, MAN i appreciate. You hey,

2398
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:06,880
Speaker 1: MAN i appreciate. You this is this is. AWESOME i enjoyed, it,

2399
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:08,920
Speaker 1: man and good luck to you, too, brother thank, you

2400
02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:11,440
Speaker 1: thank you and all your. ENDEAVORS i think this is

2401
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:14,440
Speaker 1: going to be. Huge it already is so, well IT'S i,

2402
02:13:14,440 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 1: mean it's not huge, yet but it is. Growing, yeah

2403
02:13:16,640 --> 02:13:18,360
Speaker 1: it is. Growing it's going in the right. Direction, yeah

2404
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:21,240
Speaker 1: it's going in the right. Direction many appreciate. You Bro

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02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:42,520
Speaker 1: leep down all The. Mississippi there's a