WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Cardinals Pull Off Miracle In The Desert

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Paul CALVICI.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>And Darren Urban, how about this Urban kid right.

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<v Speaker 6>The field.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as much as I despised Shakespeare in college

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<v Speaker 1>as an English undergrad, I love a good Shakespearean tragedy

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<v Speaker 1>in football, especially when it happens to the opponent. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is why we are gathered here today for this

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<v Speaker 1>very special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red Rage.

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<v Speaker 1>Presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Miracle in the Desert.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the title of tonight's episode, as we hit

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<v Speaker 1>the rewind button and go back into Cardinals history all

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<v Speaker 1>time anecdotes, as we like to say, Cardinals folktales where

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<v Speaker 1>you can't spell the word history without the word story.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul calvic Here, Darren Urban was there covered the game

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<v Speaker 1>back in two thousand and three. This is the rare game, Darren,

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<v Speaker 1>where it was best remembered for what both teams did

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<v Speaker 1>not get. The Vikings do not get a playoff Berth,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals did not get the first pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>About this season finale two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 7>This is true.

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<v Speaker 8>I hadn't really thought about it that but but you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you going negative doesn't really surprise me that much, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the game.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got to the

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<v Speaker 8>playoffs because of that result, and they they did feel

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<v Speaker 8>like winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to

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<v Speaker 8>that because he ended up in Green Bay a week

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<v Speaker 8>later at the playoff game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, we're gonna learn.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, you tell us since you where were you,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, for Nate Pool's shining moment? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>still in the press pot?

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<v Speaker 8>In those days, all the reporters would gather in the

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<v Speaker 8>corner of the end zone, and we were down on

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<v Speaker 8>the end of the field that the Cardinals scored upon.

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<v Speaker 8>We were just on the other side. So we were

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<v Speaker 8>down there in the between the back line, the back

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<v Speaker 8>of the goal line, in about the ten yard line,

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<v Speaker 8>watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly obviously because it was

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<v Speaker 8>on the far sideline the catch, but you could hear

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<v Speaker 8>the crowd explode. I was down there when you know,

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<v Speaker 8>Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them

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<v Speaker 8>the call when they were going to the replay. I

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<v Speaker 8>remember that very distinctly because we were on the field

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<v Speaker 8>by then and it was just it was an amazing

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<v Speaker 8>end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career

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<v Speaker 8>as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard

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<v Speaker 8>to them getting Larry Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the

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<v Speaker 1>odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a

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<v Speaker 1>game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody

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<v Speaker 8>think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if

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<v Speaker 8>they lost, it didn't look real good for them to

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<v Speaker 8>get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple

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<v Speaker 8>of bad teams to win, and it wind up working

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<v Speaker 8>out that way if they had had lost. But then again,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the Vikings came in. I'm guessing they were

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<v Speaker 8>a little overconfident.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>I remember watching the game from the press box thinking

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<v Speaker 8>to myself, they don't look like they're ready to put

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<v Speaker 8>this team away. The Vikings don't look like they're ready

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<v Speaker 8>to put the Cardinals away. And those Cardinal teams were

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<v Speaker 8>not good, but they did give effort. And you had

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of guys out there playing for the first

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<v Speaker 8>time or very inexperienced Josh McCown, Reggie Wells. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>you go down the list and they just didn't give up. Now,

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<v Speaker 8>they needed some bounces there at the end, for sure,

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<v Speaker 8>but the fact they were even in shouting distance of

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<v Speaker 8>the game never should have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get a full recap here because it really

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<v Speaker 1>is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of the

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<v Speaker 1>game not so much, but it was seventeen to six

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings with under seven minutes to play. Then just after

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<v Speaker 1>the two minute warning it's a one score game. You

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<v Speaker 1>need the on sidekick. Neil Rackers, right, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>master at making the ball do different things. He had

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<v Speaker 1>that soccer background, and then things just got really crazy

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<v Speaker 1>from there. I mean, with all due respect to a

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<v Speaker 1>young Dave Patch behind the mic, it's the rare game

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<v Speaker 1>where the truly memorable radio calls came from a the

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<v Speaker 1>losing team and be the team that really benefited two

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<v Speaker 1>time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more than

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals did.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect

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<v Speaker 8>to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the

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<v Speaker 8>top two there, but it was an amazing time all

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<v Speaker 8>the way around, just because of how it ended and

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<v Speaker 8>what it meant and just the memories of that game

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<v Speaker 8>and for Josh mccount and aatepool.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna hear how it all unfolded in real

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<v Speaker 1>time at the time two thousand and three. Heck, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team Santa Colors, right, red,

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<v Speaker 1>white and black. So this was their own gift, their

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<v Speaker 1>own parting gift of the home fans. And when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back in this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Red Rage, we'll hear it for ourselves. Miracle

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<v Speaker 1>in the Desert presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. And

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Red Rage presented by santan.

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<v Speaker 3>Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>spell the word history without the word story, and boy

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<v Speaker 1>do we have one. From the final week of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting the

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play for

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the number one pick, which they would secure with

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<v Speaker 1>the loss. The nine and six Vikings came in. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>they had started six and oh that season, but their

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<v Speaker 1>playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win

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<v Speaker 1>to secure a postseason berth and the week before they

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<v Speaker 1>had already cooed KC forty five to twenty. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a Kansas city team that went thirteen and three in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not

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<v Speaker 1>many gave the Cardinals a chance. But as quarterback of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Josh McCown would say, later, Hey, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>around coach McGuinness. He can make any game feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis,

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<v Speaker 1>who was great with the media, also had a great

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<v Speaker 1>comparison between the two receivers on the field that day

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<v Speaker 1>who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about Nate Poole thirty six career games in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. He managed a total of thirty four career

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<v Speaker 1>catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his

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<v Speaker 1>brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to

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<v Speaker 1>a city, It got him a personalized phone call from

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<v Speaker 1>a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all

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<v Speaker 1>in the city of Green Bay. So with that as

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<v Speaker 1>the background, let's hit that rewind button to Miracle in

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<v Speaker 1>the Desert. It's the final week of two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 1>This season finale that would end the year for two teams.

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<v Speaker 5>The count throwing far side into the end zone and.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball is touchdown, Turtles.

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<v Speaker 10>An unbelievable turn of evnch Not here at lambeau Field,

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<v Speaker 10>but in the desert, you would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have thought we won Suit Bowl. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 3>an unbelievable moment.

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<v Speaker 1>The Vikings are.

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<v Speaker 2>Going home for the new year.

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<v Speaker 11>You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that.

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<v Speaker 11>Let alone to Nathan Poole.

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<v Speaker 3>And they pulls a good person to make that play.

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<v Speaker 3>He deserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not one other Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now.

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<v Speaker 12>You lose a game and it opens the door for

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<v Speaker 12>your worst enemy.

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<v Speaker 9>The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to

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<v Speaker 9>be host of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>It was that if the sun fell out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, it was a miserable day of existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Time that two teams played one game that stop time

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<v Speaker 1>in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or out

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<v Speaker 1>of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or out

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<v Speaker 1>of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two, and three?

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<v Speaker 1>All dictated by a Cardinals win that some viewed as

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<v Speaker 1>a loss.

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<v Speaker 5>I think even the fans were like, man, let's just

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<v Speaker 5>get this season over and get the number one pick

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<v Speaker 5>walk away with the Eli manning.

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<v Speaker 3>There was something to play for there. They're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too.

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<v Speaker 7>He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>here he.

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<v Speaker 9>Comes into the angel.

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<v Speaker 1>The county.

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<v Speaker 12>Knocked me out at number one pick too. Man, I

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<v Speaker 12>probably been the first pick of the draft. Man, they

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<v Speaker 12>cost me, Nate pull Man. I'd never forgive them for that.

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<v Speaker 12>I tell them that all the time.

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<v Speaker 10>Nathan Paul may become a household name in Green Pay.

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<v Speaker 13>This is Mael Schmidt. I love to get you to

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<v Speaker 13>one of the games. I said, oh no, I would love.

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<v Speaker 7>To come out.

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<v Speaker 11>He was given a key to the city of Green

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<v Speaker 11>Bay and he got to go to their playoff game.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to

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<v Speaker 6>go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.

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<v Speaker 6>He will have a lot of people who will take

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<v Speaker 6>good care of him to.

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<v Speaker 1>The winner goes the Spoils. That's after the Cardinals took

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<v Speaker 1>care of the Vikings. All right, a big win, but

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<v Speaker 1>the big winner the Packers welcome into Cardinals Folktales miracle

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<v Speaker 1>in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where we

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<v Speaker 1>go in depth into Cardinals history, all time anecdotes through

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<v Speaker 1>the recollections and memories of those who lived in or

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<v Speaker 1>in my case, those who've covered it. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Paul kelvecon Cardinals sideline reporter. We're talking about that time

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<v Speaker 1>when little known Nate Poole got the key to a city,

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<v Speaker 1>while his own fan base lamented what it did not get.

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<v Speaker 3>People said, well, y'all, you know you cost them the number

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<v Speaker 3>one pick.

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<v Speaker 5>The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals hit

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<v Speaker 5>and one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings got down.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great calls, one of the great thrill

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<v Speaker 1>of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every

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<v Speaker 1>bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. Cardinals playing for the number one

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<v Speaker 1>pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason

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<v Speaker 1>with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of

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<v Speaker 1>the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 14>We're gonna win a game and we haven't won a

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<v Speaker 14>game in seven weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we need to win a ballgame. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people I know pulling force.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room.

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<v Speaker 3>He was very captivating, and that was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that he talked about was just the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>knock those guys off. You know that they were coming in,

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<v Speaker 3>they had to beat us, and you know they were

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<v Speaker 3>going to get into the playoffs, and so there was

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<v Speaker 3>something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>just a game where we're gonna roll the ball out

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<v Speaker 3>there and get it over with and go home. He

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<v Speaker 3>was like, man, this is they're playing for something. We

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<v Speaker 3>can be playing for something too.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>after a six and oho start, were nine and six,

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<v Speaker 1>coming off a ko of KC the week before a

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<v Speaker 1>forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that

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<v Speaker 1>would finish thirteen and three, So all the Vikings had

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<v Speaker 1>to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off

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<v Speaker 1>a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third

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<v Speaker 1>career start, a coach about to be fired, and the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own

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<v Speaker 1>future on Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, who knows we can play hypothetical all day?

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<v Speaker 15>Is Macizia great? But if he's not here, people coming in,

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<v Speaker 15>what their plans are, what the ideas, and what they thought.

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<v Speaker 15>So I gotta I gotta win on all that. So

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<v Speaker 15>you asking me to make up answer to something that

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<v Speaker 15>I don't have all the information to, that's stupid. I'm

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<v Speaker 15>not that stupid. Yeah, please, somebody changing something?

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<v Speaker 1>Pleasemas thank you.

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<v Speaker 15>How about the spirit of jollyness and happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea

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<v Speaker 1>jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash was in

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<v Speaker 1>his second season in three.

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<v Speaker 5>When you endure that long of a season and you're

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<v Speaker 5>calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games,

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<v Speaker 5>the one thing is Okay, you got a chance to

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<v Speaker 5>get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this

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<v Speaker 5>and get to that draft. Get your guy, enjoy the

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<v Speaker 5>next ten years and a couple Super bowls.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that whole year. You grow up fast in this

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<v Speaker 3>business and you go, wait, they're gonna fire these coaches.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, they could draft a new quarterback like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was just a quarterback of the future

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<v Speaker 3>two days ago.

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<v Speaker 14>That.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, all these things, you grow really fast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick

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<v Speaker 1>the year before, who earned the final three starts of

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<v Speaker 1>that O three season and tried to channel the confidence

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<v Speaker 1>that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against

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<v Speaker 1>NFC North leading Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you look at their roster U when

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<v Speaker 3>they're coming out to us with everything to play for,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking

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<v Speaker 3>at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if that was an easy sale for coach, but he

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<v Speaker 3>did a good job of framing that for us. And

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<v Speaker 3>and uh and I think he was, you know, benefited

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<v Speaker 3>from a young quarterback who didn't know any better and

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<v Speaker 3>just was gonna go out and play the game.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a lot of action for the announcers to call

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<v Speaker 1>in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Six to nine at halftime, seven to six entering the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass.

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<v Speaker 5>Lock closer than many thought it would be, especially with

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<v Speaker 5>a playoff spot on the line. Of the Vikings win,

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<v Speaker 5>they clinch their division. If they lose and Green Bay wins, they're.

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<v Speaker 10>Out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, just over two minutes later, a forty six yard

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<v Speaker 1>fuel goal makes it seventeen to six Vikings with six

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight to play, but hang on. On the first

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<v Speaker 1>play after the two minute warning.

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<v Speaker 5>McCown takes play, bank, rolls to his right, mccount in

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<v Speaker 5>trouble flushdown, throws ends on and going down to make

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<v Speaker 5>the catch for a touchdown of Steve Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Bush for a touchdown catch.

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<v Speaker 5>Great improv job by Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 1>A fourteen play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed,

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<v Speaker 1>so as seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers broadcast.

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<v Speaker 10>James Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only way

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<v Speaker 10>the Packers can make the playoffs now is if Minnesota

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<v Speaker 10>loses this football game somehow, some way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the radio call at Lambell, Wayne Larrvie and Larry

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<v Speaker 1>McCarran paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 5>Cardinals are going to try to recover an onside kick

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<v Speaker 5>to perhaps give us a little bit more time to broadcast.

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<v Speaker 16>Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And

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<v Speaker 16>you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there, you know,

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<v Speaker 16>blasting guys and right place, right time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's former Cardinals running back Damien Anderson. And that's the recipe,

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<v Speaker 1>the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what the Cardinals needed. Good news, The Cards are just

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<v Speaker 1>picked up one of the best in the business in

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Rackers.

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<v Speaker 5>So what fifty four to play? Neil Rackers is very

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<v Speaker 5>good with the on side kick.

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<v Speaker 3>We were all standing there, you know, waiting because that

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<v Speaker 3>was we knew that that was the next piece. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you had to get that to keep the ball game going,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, you know, Neil hits a perfect ball, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was just how you drew it up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And Damien comes up with.

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<v Speaker 5>It, Rackers with the on side kick far aside and

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<v Speaker 5>it bounce us in the air. Hey, the Cardinals have it.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the forty two. Davian Anderson comes up with it

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<v Speaker 5>on the re direction and the Cards have a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>With onunch fifty four.

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<v Speaker 10>To play, the Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and

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<v Speaker 10>Larry Loan behold they recovered it with a minute fifty

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<v Speaker 10>four to go in that football game in the desert

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<v Speaker 10>and the Vikings leading seventeen to twelve.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I'm going to shut up about this last game.

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<v Speaker 9>Stuff done. Maybe they don't have a miracle.

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<v Speaker 10>Keep talking about it. You may be jinxing us into

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<v Speaker 10>something good here.

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe that miracle can happen.

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<v Speaker 11>You get to that onside kick and now all of

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<v Speaker 11>a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything can

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<v Speaker 11>happen against anybody anytime, and as we know, it did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's longtime voice of the bike means Paul Allen. More

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<v Speaker 1>from him later, much more, Saul. Cardinals had the ball

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<v Speaker 1>back one fifty four left sixty one yards to go,

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<v Speaker 1>needing a touchdown with one time out. After a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>yard pass interference and a thirteen yard completion in Nate Poole,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals reached the Minnesota nine with thirty nine seconds

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 10>I meanwhile, out in the desert in Arizona, getting a

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<v Speaker 10>little bit closer.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, people are aware of this because you could

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<v Speaker 9>hear a thousand in the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>There is definitely everyone is out of their seats in

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<v Speaker 1>three different states. When Josh McCown is put on his seat,

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<v Speaker 1>two straight plays quit.

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<v Speaker 5>Driving McCown looking left, hump thick of account sacked back

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<v Speaker 5>at the seventeen eyline of McCown flushed out running near side,

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<v Speaker 5>lost the ball, It's loose, and the Cardinals able the

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<v Speaker 5>pound side up of the twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Emmittt has a presence of mind to go, Josh, get up,

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<v Speaker 3>get up. We gotta get the ball. Snap we got well,

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<v Speaker 3>got tome house. We gotta go. So we get to

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<v Speaker 3>play call and then you know, and then we've you know, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>get the boss.

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<v Speaker 16>Now you knew that was josh skill set, Like call

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<v Speaker 16>a play that works for him, you know, get him out.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, get him out in some space so he'll

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<v Speaker 16>have a multitude of options.

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<v Speaker 5>The clock running down, under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth

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<v Speaker 5>down at twenty four, and.

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<v Speaker 9>It's gonna come down to this. They gotta throw it

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<v Speaker 9>into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it. Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty eight. The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging

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<v Speaker 1>in the balance once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen.

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<v Speaker 11>There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step

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<v Speaker 11>of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you?

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<v Speaker 10>And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the

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<v Speaker 10>last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty

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<v Speaker 10>five and here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight seconds seven six five four. The count of the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>This will be the last play. The count steps up,

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<v Speaker 5>rolling far side.

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<v Speaker 7>Just so happened. He got flushed. He got flushed out

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<v Speaker 7>to the right.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, oh, here he come, but come throwing far

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<v Speaker 5>side into the end zone and the ball it is pup, touchdown.

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<v Speaker 11>Cardinals made pool and the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 3>Win the game.

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<v Speaker 2>On the final pool and the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Kiggs are going.

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<v Speaker 2>Home for the new year.

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<v Speaker 13>Josh Man, you know the whole time he's running he's rolling,

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<v Speaker 13>he's pointing to the right. I'm inside. I know he's

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<v Speaker 13>about to throw it over there. And the defender he

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<v Speaker 13>had no clue.

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<v Speaker 7>He had no clue.

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<v Speaker 5>What a great throw by Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 1>He threw it up rolling, Hey Poole could get it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like it was just there was a connection

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<v Speaker 3>for us, you know, and so booming there he is,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the ball came out. Uh, and he makes

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<v Speaker 3>an unbelievable cash.

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<v Speaker 5>The Cardinals winning on the final play. Josh mccoum fen's

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<v Speaker 5>made pool in the back of the end zone of

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<v Speaker 5>the far side.

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<v Speaker 3>You would thought we won a Super Bowl. And uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was an unbelievable moment and edit middle

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<v Speaker 3>to those guys out.

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<v Speaker 1>There, But it meant even more to Nate Poole, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who had been cut four times and then he

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<v Speaker 1>cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans who had populated

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<v Speaker 1>and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk in three two

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<v Speaker 1>one take lso.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't come back here and next to y'alling the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole, the living embodiment of the ups and downs

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<v Speaker 1>of an NFL game. He was something fired up, while

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<v Speaker 1>those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode,

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<v Speaker 1>always existing on the edge of the roster, so he

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<v Speaker 1>played with an edge. We heard it right there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing when you look back. How that one catch,

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<v Speaker 1>that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a

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<v Speaker 1>game winner, How it set off a domino effect, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole litany of changes that altered the history of not

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<v Speaker 1>only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop that

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four draft franchise, quarterbacks going two different teams,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer as well,

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<v Speaker 1>who might have gone number one overall off the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>were in that position, but they weren't. And the changes

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<v Speaker 1>even extended to the rule book years later. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that when we come back. And don't forget Nate

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<v Speaker 1>Pool was not just a celebrity in Arizona. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the toast of the town in Green Bay. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>relive all that when we come back to this very

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<v Speaker 1>special Cardinals Folktales edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle

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<v Speaker 1>in the Desert, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert it's

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<v Speaker 1>our special Cardinals Bolktales edition of the Big Red Rage

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<v Speaker 1>was santan Ford in Gilbert. This is where we go

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<v Speaker 1>into Cardinals history, go into the archives. Can't spell the

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<v Speaker 1>word history without the word story. And we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the final game of the two thousand and three season.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Paul calvi Seen. We started by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>remember that one time, that one game played by two

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<v Speaker 1>teams in two thousand and three, that stop time in

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<v Speaker 1>three different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole, Cardinals receiver, and

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<v Speaker 1>was the in or out of bounds? We posed that question, Well,

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 1>he was most definitely inbounds, and the Vikings were most

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<v Speaker 1>definitely out of the playoffs, and the Cardinals were out

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<v Speaker 1>of the top pick in the draft. We'll get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but remember when it comes to the Vikings, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a team that not only started six to zero

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and was on the verge of the playoffs, but that season,

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the four worst teams in the league were the Giants,

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Cardinals. Each team finished

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<v Speaker 1>four and twelve. Each one of those teams beat the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can imagine the angst on the Minnesota side

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>in fact, their radio announcer, the voice of the Vikings,

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Paul Allen, became a meme before there even were memes

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in social media, and that's where we rejoined this edition

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, and former Cardinals

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>quarterback Josh McCown two years later had empathy for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings because

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.439
<v Speaker 3>they were right there on the cusp, and to lose

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<v Speaker 3>that way, man, that's bitter.

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Nate Pool's game winning playoff busting, last second fourth down

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 1>looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>left in a state of utter disbelief.

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<v Speaker 11>People were just staring longingly on the team bust to

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<v Speaker 11>the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were

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<v Speaker 11>just downtrodden. And you just don't lose like that. Nobody

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:08.360
<v Speaker 11>loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not ang

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 11>Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect the dots,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, of the entire thing over twenty years, it

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<v Speaker 11>hits me so vividly because of how emotional it was

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 11>at that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>The season's on the line, two receivers left and right.

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<v Speaker 2>McCown takes the snap, he steps up, he's all by himself,

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<v Speaker 2>fires into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 7>Dods Dods down.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 11>The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, hated that call.

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 11>He didn't let me know, but he let others know.

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<v Speaker 11>Some vice presidents here, so you know, I had some

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 11>conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, you know,

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 11>you don't script moments like that, and that's what came out.

0:25:58.160 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 11>So I had to deal with that very young in

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<v Speaker 11>my career.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand where Paul's coming from. You get invested in

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 5>the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul handled

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 5>it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional,

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:11.959
<v Speaker 5>but that's how the fans feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>No, are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>That was Paul's reaction.

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<v Speaker 11>One thing I remember about the call is I looked

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<v Speaker 11>to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 11>coach at that time, Pete Bursage, he could hear me

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<v Speaker 11>through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, and then

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<v Speaker 11>I came down. The Gardinals have knocked the Vikings out

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<v Speaker 11>of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 11>The way he looked at me, it was not anger

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 11>at me. It was one of two things. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 11>I can't believe what just happened. Oh my god, that

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 11>check that I was going to get for a playoff bonus,

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<v Speaker 11>it just went up into the tenpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio.

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<v Speaker 10>Network, and here we go, this is if the season

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 10>for the Packers. On the line into the end zone

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 10>accounts pack Hey go.

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Out cutting down it as on Paco.

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<v Speaker 1>By label thought complete deadlock from Wayne Larity and Larry

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>McCarron reacting to a game they're not even calling, just

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 1>watching from two thousand miles away.

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 5>That is the biggest a miracle on the Packers.

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 10>Sadly, any reps the Packers later, they finally realizes, any rep,

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 10>I'm a final playoff. The regular season for the fight Kings,

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 10>they lose eighteen of seventeen.

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 9>The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're gonna be

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 9>host of the game.

0:27:59.240 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 16>True.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Brett Farv and the Packers would host the Seahawks at

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Lambeau to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared with

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM Mark

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping king

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee,

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>speaking of coach mac different emotions, a different reality started

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet,

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>almost somber.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 14>For all that we've been through, we never quit on

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 14>each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 14>character I've got in this room.

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you.

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 3>It was somber, and it's very sobering. You're just like, man,

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 3>back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 3>he was genuine with his works and you know, and

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.719
<v Speaker 3>how I cared about guys, and so I think he

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 3>understood in that moment that that was probably, you know,

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 3>the last time or one of the last times he

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 3>was going to address this as a group.

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 14>I've never been afraid to open myself to you. Because

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 14>you've got my heart. You've got my heart.

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 3>You know it's a roller coaster really, because you were

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 3>just as high as it gets. You know, for fifteen

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, the business sets in.

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 14>When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught,

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 14>what did I tell you last night? I cut this

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 14>man four times. I cut him four times, and every

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 14>time I did, he stood up in my office and

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<v Speaker 14>hugged me and said, Mike, if you need me, I'll

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 14>be back because you're the only man I want to

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 14>play for.

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's the way I know that all of you

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>feel right now.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 13>What was real motion on It was like you know,

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 13>your last family hug, you know, and you and it

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 13>hurt because we know, you know, he's a player's coach

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 13>and he loved the players. He want the players to do,

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 13>do you know, to excel, to be really great?

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>You know what I feel for you?

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 3>You know what I feel for you.

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 17>This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 17>only love each other, but believe, believe, believe, you know.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 13>Most of us felt like we let Dave down because

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 13>you know, we didn't come up on the winning side

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 13>of a lot of these games to keep him around.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never ever give up on you. I love you.

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>On the very next day, with a foreign swall season

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:46.959
<v Speaker 1>in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired.

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>after that six and oh start. As for the Packers,

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:59.719
<v Speaker 1>the party was just starting and Nate Pool's celebrity was growing.

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 10>Nathan Poll of all people hop about that Nathan Pull

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 10>may become a household name in green Bay.

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 11>It was an amazing play. But you know, like I

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 11>say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 11>that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 11>course the next week he was given a key to

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 11>the city of Green Bay and he got to go

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 11>to their playoff game.

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.719
<v Speaker 1>And that is accurate. Nate Poole, who going into the

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>season finale had eight catches all season and no touchdowns,

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>was now Packer's royalty, to the point where he got

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a call from the mayor of Green Bay.

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 13>So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh,

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 13>here we go. Stop calling my phone because I'm thinking

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 13>it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 13>player's gonna call me back and say, man, dude, what

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 13>are you doing. Then I got a call right back

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 13>the same number, and I'm like, okay, hey, how you

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 13>doing this in April? And he was like, Hey, Nate, no,

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 13>this is not a joke.

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 7>This is Mayor Schmidt. I love to get you out

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 7>in a speed talking I love to get you out

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 7>to one of the games. I said, oh no, I

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 7>would love to come out.

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's not the only call he got that week.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash,

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too.

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 5>Dave, Mary, Joe, Mary, Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage.

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Joe.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, guys, thanks a lot. I was just calling to

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 6>wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay and to

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 6>give him a huge thank you. Since the Vikings started

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 6>off six and oh this year, I've been taking a

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 6>lot of grief for getting a lot of grief from

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 6>my friends who are Viking fans, and I would roll

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 6>my eyes and just say, oh, you know, won't you

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 6>ever learn the Vikings will find some way to implode

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 6>again this year and sweet revenge. It has been a

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 6>wonderful couple of days, and I just want to offer

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.479
<v Speaker 6>a great big thank you.

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking Date ou to dinner

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 5>when he gets up there.

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 6>go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 6>He will have a lot of people who will take

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 6>good care of him.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay and

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>all its spense paid trip in January on the tax

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Beyer's tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>grand Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>end of that touchdown pass QB. Josh McCown.

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, they fly Nate up to Green Bay and

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 3>they give him a Kidah City or whatever they did,

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 3>and they're sending us We were getting Christmas cards from

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Green Bay fans that it was their family Christmas card

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 3>and you know it was you know, scratched out and

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the Vikings. Go

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mail to the

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 3>house of the Sargento family sent the best cheese basket

0:33:58.920 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 3>you've ever seen in your life.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>That was two thousand and three. But even to this day,

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>both school Nation and America's dairy lamb walking through.

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 3>An airport or whatever, and there will be, you know,

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 3>a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you know you

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 3>owe me, you know type of thing, or it'll be

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 3>a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you for getting

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 3>us in the playoffs that year, you know, we owe you.

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 12>I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game,

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 12>and I did not like Nate Poole because I thought

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:35.439
<v Speaker 12>I had a chance to be the number one pick,

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 12>and I used to always mess with Nate.

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald, not only a former Vikings

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>ball boy and their number one fan at the time,

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>but fits might have been the number one pick overall

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL draft.

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 13>Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 13>would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 13>in the receiver room before the meeting about being him

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 13>being an number one pick. You know, as I think

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 13>back to what his sided bonus was, how he didn't

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 13>do too bad at the number three pick.

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 3>People said, well, y'all, you know, you cost him the

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 3>number one pick, and I go back and go, you know,

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Coach Green would have I think he

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 3>would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 3>it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 3>for the Arizona Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise,

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, through a lot of things to become a

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, a competitive franchise, and you know, to really

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>what they are today.

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 5>Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 5>a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness,

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 5>there goes the quarterback of the future, there goes he live.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick,

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<v Speaker 1>which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>never know who knew head coach Denny Green would have

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<v Speaker 1>picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says

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<v Speaker 1>at number one he still would have been the Cardinals selection.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he said, I would have been. That's what he

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<v Speaker 3>told me. I would have been.

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<v Speaker 12>But you know what, it all worked his way out

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<v Speaker 12>I was able to still get here and play for him.

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<v Speaker 12>I know we didn't have the success I'd love to

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<v Speaker 12>have for him. You know, he gave me my first

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<v Speaker 12>two jobs I ever had as a ball boy and

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<v Speaker 12>then as a professional athlete, and so I owe him

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<v Speaker 12>a huge debt of gratitude and I'm just so very

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<v Speaker 12>thankful for, you know, the doors he opened for me

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<v Speaker 12>and my family.

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<v Speaker 11>Touchdown Cardinals, they pull, the Cardinals win.

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<v Speaker 2>The game, the final.

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<v Speaker 13>I brong my heart head to practice in the games

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<v Speaker 13>every day, and I knew, you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know, that's what it was about. As growing up as

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<v Speaker 7>a youngster.

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<v Speaker 13>That would was about, you know, bringing your hard head

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<v Speaker 13>and working out and just pushing to make the team.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, coaches say, run every route as if it's

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<v Speaker 5>your last one. Nate Pool really did it. But it

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<v Speaker 5>was like comical, like he went so hard. So pretty

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<v Speaker 5>cool to see a guy that worked that hard have

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<v Speaker 5>one of the biggest plays of the season, not just

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<v Speaker 5>for the Cardinals but for the entire league.

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<v Speaker 13>I got to you, hey, you can only do it

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<v Speaker 13>one play at a time. I got you on that play.

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<v Speaker 1>And needless to say, it's the play in Nate Poole's

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<v Speaker 1>career one of the most dramatic and consequential plays in

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<v Speaker 1>NFL history.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>And Nate Poole's a good person. He's a great person

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<v Speaker 3>to be around. And you look back at that and

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<v Speaker 3>that's a special moment for me in my career as well. So,

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<v Speaker 3>but it couldn't happen to a better guy. And Nate's

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<v Speaker 3>could dude?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who says good dudes? Finished last? Right? In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>as Dave McGinnis said back then, with a smile to

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<v Speaker 1>the media, quote, there were two receivers on the field

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<v Speaker 1>from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss, we had

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals Folktales Miracle

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<v Speaker 1>in the Desert, presented by seventy two Soul for producer

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Mamhundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's the story of

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<v Speaker 1>how an unknown receiver won that day, but a Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame receiver was on his way.

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<v Speaker 5>The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history

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<v Speaker 5>and one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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<v Speaker 18>With the third choice in the two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 18>NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 18>University of Crave.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the red seat Cardinals fans at the official

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<v Speaker 1>draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to

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<v Speaker 1>the Valley White, a departure from the climate a few

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<v Speaker 1>months earlier, when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out

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<v Speaker 1>on the number one pick overall, ostensibly a franchise quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A

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<v Speaker 1>few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole,

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<v Speaker 1>who only had one foot down in the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban, would the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it

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<v Speaker 1>still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back with this very special Cardinals Full Tales

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<v Speaker 1>edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert, and we're wrapping up

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<v Speaker 1>this very special Cardinals fulk Tales edition of the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul Kelvicy

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Darren Irvan. Darren Irvan covered the game. Miracle

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<v Speaker 1>in the Desert is the title of this Cardinal's Folktales

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going to the archives in some great, rarely

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<v Speaker 1>heard audio that are Jim Almahundro found both from the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we

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<v Speaker 1>heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all

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<v Speaker 1>talking about not only the end of the game, but

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<v Speaker 1>the start of a new era of Cardinals football in

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<v Speaker 1>so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren,

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<v Speaker 1>because what if, what if the Cardinals had lost that game?

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<v Speaker 1>What if they had picked number one overall? Would they

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<v Speaker 1>still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone

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<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald,

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<v Speaker 8>because I think Danny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading

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<v Speaker 8>up to the draft, Denny wasn't like a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>coaches there were. Oftentimes when he was he said more

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<v Speaker 8>than maybe then maybe he should. And I remember in

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<v Speaker 8>those days, I was covering the team for the East

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 8>Valley Tribune. I had come out to a day in

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<v Speaker 8>the off season sometime in April, and I was the

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<v Speaker 8>only writer here and the only other media member who

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<v Speaker 8>was showing up was brad Cessmett, who was working for

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<v Speaker 8>one of the local stations that day, and he had

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<v Speaker 8>an interview apparently scheduled with Denny Green. And all they

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<v Speaker 8>did was bring Denny Green down to the media area

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<v Speaker 8>and then they just had a camera and they were

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<v Speaker 8>sitting there and they're having it. So as a media member,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm going to listen to the interview and take what

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<v Speaker 8>I can.

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<v Speaker 7>Get from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, nobody told you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 8>So Denny Green is talking about and you have to

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<v Speaker 8>remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning

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<v Speaker 8>and Philip Rivers, those are all available with the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 8>picking third, and at this point the Cardinals quarterback was

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<v Speaker 8>Josh McCown probably, and there were questions about Josh and

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 8>whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh.

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 8>He would talk him up all the time, and at

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<v Speaker 8>one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take

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<v Speaker 8>a quarterback third overall. Well, as a reporter, I had

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<v Speaker 8>that in this day, this is pre internet, so I

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<v Speaker 8>had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously, the

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 8>other paper in town didn't have the story. So the

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<v Speaker 8>next day I came back. There were other writers here.

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<v Speaker 8>Ken Summer showed up, Bob Bomb from the Associated Press,

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<v Speaker 8>and they get Denny Green to come down and talk

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<v Speaker 8>and they're trying to get him to say the same

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 8>thing again and he won't do it. And finally Bob

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<v Speaker 8>Baum says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying

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<v Speaker 8>to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday.

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<v Speaker 8>And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>Today is today?

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you though, that was back in the days,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity

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<v Speaker 1>for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and

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<v Speaker 1>fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted,

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<v Speaker 1>he showed up in the Cardinals locker room, and there

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that

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<v Speaker 1>he cost him the number one pick overall.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made

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<v Speaker 8>a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination.

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<v Speaker 13>But you do.

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<v Speaker 8>Wonder a little bit what, Okay, Eli Manning went number

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<v Speaker 8>one and then Robert Gallery went number two. But you

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<v Speaker 8>wonder a little bit if they didn't take fits and

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<v Speaker 8>they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers, how

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<v Speaker 8>different does life with the Cardinals?

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<v Speaker 7>You know happen? Now?

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<v Speaker 8>The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 8>because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance

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<v Speaker 8>throwing to Akwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 8>And the Cardinals don't make the Super Bowl unless Larry

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<v Speaker 8>has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide

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<v Speaker 8>receiver ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants.

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<v Speaker 7>All so true.

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<v Speaker 8>So, although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants, he was

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<v Speaker 8>drafted by the Chargers and they had to make the

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<v Speaker 8>trade for Philip Rivers.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of intrigue with that draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much

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<v Speaker 1>of a career after that. No always remembered for what

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<v Speaker 1>he did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all

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<v Speaker 1>expenses pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because

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<v Speaker 1>he got a key to the city and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>But they ended up changing the force out rule in

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<v Speaker 1>large part because of how that went down in the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone at Sun Devil Stadium.

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<v Speaker 8>I had no question that it was a force out play.

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<v Speaker 8>And now you have to get feet down and if

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<v Speaker 8>a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that

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<v Speaker 8>touchdown does not count in today's NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the Desert Cardinals folk Tale special thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>our Jim Almhundro for Darren Urban. I'm Paul Calvic once again.

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