1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Hol On ahead. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 3: He got jacked. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 4: This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 4: and Gilbert. 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 5: Terry's Gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by Buddha 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 5: Baker Like a torpedo. He came flying into the back. 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Deal the Rage. 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 4: It's brought to you by santan Ford and Gilbert. 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I'm telling you I'm ready. 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: And Darren Urban, how about this Urban kid right. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 6: The field. 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: You know, as much as I despised Shakespeare in college 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: as an English undergrad, I love a good Shakespearean tragedy 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: in football, especially when it happens to the opponent. And 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: that is why we are gathered here today for this 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: very special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red Rage. 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: Presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Miracle in the Desert. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: That is the title of tonight's episode, as we hit 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: the rewind button and go back into Cardinals history all 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: time anecdotes, as we like to say, Cardinals folktales where 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: you can't spell the word history without the word story. 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: Paul calvic Here, Darren Urban was there covered the game 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and three. This is the rare game, Darren, 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: where it was best remembered for what both teams did 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: not get. The Vikings do not get a playoff Berth, 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did not get the first pick in the draft. 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: About this season finale two thousand and three. 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 7: This is true. 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 8: I hadn't really thought about it that but but you know, 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 8: you going negative doesn't really surprise me that much, Paul. 41 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: the game. 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 8: Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got to the 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 8: playoffs because of that result, and they they did feel 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 8: like winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 8: that because he ended up in Green Bay a week 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 8: later at the playoff game. 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: Yes. 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career. 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 7: Yes, we're gonna learn. 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: In fact, you tell us since you where were you, 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: by the way, for Nate Pool's shining moment? Were you 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: still in the press pot? 54 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 8: In those days, all the reporters would gather in the 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 8: corner of the end zone, and we were down on 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 8: the end of the field that the Cardinals scored upon. 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 8: We were just on the other side. So we were 58 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 8: down there in the between the back line, the back 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 8: of the goal line, in about the ten yard line, 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 8: watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly obviously because it was 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 8: on the far sideline the catch, but you could hear 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 8: the crowd explode. I was down there when you know, 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 8: Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 8: the call when they were going to the replay. I 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 8: remember that very distinctly because we were on the field 66 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 8: by then and it was just it was an amazing 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 8: end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 8: as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 8: to them getting Larry Fitzgerald. 70 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game. 71 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months, 74 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot. 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 8: Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody 76 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 8: think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 8: they lost, it didn't look real good for them to 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 8: get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple 79 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 8: of bad teams to win, and it wind up working 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 8: out that way if they had had lost. But then again, 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 8: you know, the Vikings came in. I'm guessing they were 82 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 8: a little overconfident. 83 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 9: I don't know. 84 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 8: I remember watching the game from the press box thinking 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 8: to myself, they don't look like they're ready to put 86 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 8: this team away. The Vikings don't look like they're ready 87 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 8: to put the Cardinals away. And those Cardinal teams were 88 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 8: not good, but they did give effort. And you had 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 8: a lot of guys out there playing for the first 90 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 8: time or very inexperienced Josh McCown, Reggie Wells. I mean, 91 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 8: you go down the list and they just didn't give up. Now, 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 8: they needed some bounces there at the end, for sure, 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 8: but the fact they were even in shouting distance of 94 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 8: the game never should have happened. 95 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna get a full recap here because it really 96 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of the 97 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: game not so much, but it was seventeen to six 98 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Vikings with under seven minutes to play. Then just after 99 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: the two minute warning it's a one score game. You 100 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: need the on sidekick. Neil Rackers, right, he was a 101 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: master at making the ball do different things. He had 102 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: that soccer background, and then things just got really crazy 103 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: from there. I mean, with all due respect to a 104 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: young Dave Patch behind the mic, it's the rare game 105 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: where the truly memorable radio calls came from a the 106 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: losing team and be the team that really benefited two 107 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more than 108 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did. 109 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect 110 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 8: to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the 111 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 8: top two there, but it was an amazing time all 112 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 8: the way around, just because of how it ended and 113 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 8: what it meant and just the memories of that game 114 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 8: and for Josh mccount and aatepool. 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: And we're gonna hear how it all unfolded in real 116 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: time at the time two thousand and three. Heck, it 117 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team Santa Colors, right, red, 118 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: white and black. So this was their own gift, their 119 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: own parting gift of the home fans. And when we 120 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: come back in this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of 121 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage, we'll hear it for ourselves. Miracle 122 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: in the Desert presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. And 123 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of 124 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage presented by santan. 125 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 3: Ford in Gilbert. 126 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: We're in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you can't 127 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: spell the word history without the word story, and boy 128 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: do we have one. From the final week of the 129 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting the 130 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play for 131 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: beyond the number one pick, which they would secure with 132 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: the loss. The nine and six Vikings came in. Remember 133 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: they had started six and oh that season, but their 134 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win 135 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: to secure a postseason berth and the week before they 136 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: had already cooed KC forty five to twenty. That was 137 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: a Kansas city team that went thirteen and three in 138 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not 139 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: many gave the Cardinals a chance. But as quarterback of 140 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: the time, Josh McCown would say, later, Hey, you've been 141 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: around coach McGuinness. He can make any game feel like 142 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis, 143 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: who was great with the media, also had a great 144 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: comparison between the two receivers on the field that day 145 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall. 146 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals 147 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: were talking about Nate Poole thirty six career games in 148 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: the NFL. He managed a total of thirty four career 149 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his 150 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty 151 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to 152 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: a city, It got him a personalized phone call from 153 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all 154 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: in the city of Green Bay. So with that as 155 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: the background, let's hit that rewind button to Miracle in 156 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: the Desert. It's the final week of two thousand and three. 157 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: This season finale that would end the year for two teams. 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: The count throwing far side into the end zone and. 159 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: The ball is touchdown, Turtles. 160 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 10: An unbelievable turn of evnch Not here at lambeau Field, 161 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 10: but in the desert, you would. 162 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: Have thought we won Suit Bowl. I mean, it was 163 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: an unbelievable moment. 164 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: The Vikings are. 165 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: Going home for the new year. 166 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 11: You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that. 167 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 11: Let alone to Nathan Poole. 168 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: And they pulls a good person to make that play. 169 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: He deserves it. 170 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: Not one other Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now. 171 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 12: You lose a game and it opens the door for 172 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 12: your worst enemy. 173 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 9: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to 174 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 9: be host of the game. 175 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: It was that if the sun fell out of the sky. 176 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 12: You know, it was a miserable day of existence. 177 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: Time that two teams played one game that stop time 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or out 179 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or out 180 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two, and three? 181 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: All dictated by a Cardinals win that some viewed as 182 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: a loss. 183 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: I think even the fans were like, man, let's just 184 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 5: get this season over and get the number one pick 185 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 5: walk away with the Eli manning. 186 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: There was something to play for there. They're you know, 187 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too. 188 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 7: He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh, 189 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 7: here he. 190 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 9: Comes into the angel. 191 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: The county. 192 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 12: Knocked me out at number one pick too. Man, I 193 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 12: probably been the first pick of the draft. Man, they 194 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 12: cost me, Nate pull Man. I'd never forgive them for that. 195 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 12: I tell them that all the time. 196 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 10: Nathan Paul may become a household name in Green Pay. 197 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 13: This is Mael Schmidt. I love to get you to 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 13: one of the games. I said, oh no, I would love. 199 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 7: To come out. 200 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 11: He was given a key to the city of Green 201 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 11: Bay and he got to go to their playoff game. 202 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 6: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to 203 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 6: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire. 204 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 6: He will have a lot of people who will take 205 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 6: good care of him to. 206 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: The winner goes the Spoils. That's after the Cardinals took 207 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: care of the Vikings. All right, a big win, but 208 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: the big winner the Packers welcome into Cardinals Folktales miracle 209 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where we 210 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: go in depth into Cardinals history, all time anecdotes through 211 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: the recollections and memories of those who lived in or 212 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: in my case, those who've covered it. My name is 213 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: Paul kelvecon Cardinals sideline reporter. We're talking about that time 214 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: when little known Nate Poole got the key to a city, 215 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: while his own fan base lamented what it did not get. 216 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: People said, well, y'all, you know you cost them the number 217 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: one pick. 218 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals hit 219 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 5: and one of the greatest receivers of all time. 220 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 3: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings got down. 221 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 11: Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened. 222 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. 223 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: One of the great calls, one of the great thrill 224 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every 225 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth, 226 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Cardinals playing for the number one 227 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason 228 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of 229 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and 230 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown. 231 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 14: We're gonna win a game and we haven't won a 232 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 14: game in seven weeks. 233 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we need to win a ballgame. You know, 234 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people I know pulling force. 235 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: Obviously, Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room. 236 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: He was very captivating, and that was one of the 237 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: things that he talked about was just the ability to 238 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: knock those guys off. You know that they were coming in, 239 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: they had to beat us, and you know they were 240 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: going to get into the playoffs, and so there was 241 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't 242 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: just a game where we're gonna roll the ball out 243 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: there and get it over with and go home. He 244 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: was like, man, this is they're playing for something. We 245 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: can be playing for something too. 246 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season. 247 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings, 248 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: after a six and oho start, were nine and six, 249 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: coming off a ko of KC the week before a 250 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that 251 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: would finish thirteen and three, So all the Vikings had 252 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off 253 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third 254 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: career start, a coach about to be fired, and the 255 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own 256 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: future on Christmas Eve. 257 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 15: I mean, who knows we can play hypothetical all day? 258 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 15: Is Macizia great? But if he's not here, people coming in, 259 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 15: what their plans are, what the ideas, and what they thought. 260 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 15: So I gotta I gotta win on all that. So 261 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 15: you asking me to make up answer to something that 262 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 15: I don't have all the information to, that's stupid. I'm 263 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 15: not that stupid. Yeah, please, somebody changing something? 264 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: Pleasemas thank you. 265 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 15: How about the spirit of jollyness and happiness. 266 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith, 267 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea 268 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree. 269 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: Here's the voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash was in 270 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: his second season in three. 271 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: When you endure that long of a season and you're 272 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 5: calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games, 273 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 5: the one thing is Okay, you got a chance to 274 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 5: get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this 275 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 5: and get to that draft. Get your guy, enjoy the 276 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: next ten years and a couple Super bowls. 277 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: Like that whole year. You grow up fast in this 278 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: business and you go, wait, they're gonna fire these coaches. 279 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, they could draft a new quarterback like 280 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: you know, I was just a quarterback of the future 281 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: two days ago. 282 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 14: That. 283 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: You know, all these things, you grow really fast. 284 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick 285 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: the year before, who earned the final three starts of 286 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: that O three season and tried to channel the confidence 287 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against 288 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: NFC North leading Minnesota. 289 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: I think when you look at their roster U when 290 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: they're coming out to us with everything to play for, 291 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking 292 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings. 293 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: You know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know, 294 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: if that was an easy sale for coach, but he 295 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: did a good job of framing that for us. And 296 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: and uh and I think he was, you know, benefited 297 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: from a young quarterback who didn't know any better and 298 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: just was gonna go out and play the game. 299 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 5: It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium. 300 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Not a lot of action for the announcers to call 301 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze fast. 302 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: Six to nine at halftime, seven to six entering the 303 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: fourth quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass. 304 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: Lock closer than many thought it would be, especially with 305 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 5: a playoff spot on the line. Of the Vikings win, 306 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: they clinch their division. If they lose and Green Bay wins, they're. 307 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 10: Out of the playoffs. 308 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: Then, just over two minutes later, a forty six yard 309 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: fuel goal makes it seventeen to six Vikings with six 310 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: forty eight to play, but hang on. On the first 311 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: play after the two minute warning. 312 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 5: McCown takes play, bank, rolls to his right, mccount in 313 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 5: trouble flushdown, throws ends on and going down to make 314 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 5: the catch for a touchdown of Steve Bush. 315 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Steve Bush for a touchdown catch. 316 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: Great improv job by Josh McCown. 317 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: A fourteen play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed, 318 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: so as seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on 319 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: the Packers broadcast. 320 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 10: James Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only way 321 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 10: the Packers can make the playoffs now is if Minnesota 322 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 10: loses this football game somehow, some way. 323 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: That's the radio call at Lambell, Wayne Larrvie and Larry 324 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: McCarran paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in 325 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay. 326 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 5: Cardinals are going to try to recover an onside kick 327 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 5: to perhaps give us a little bit more time to broadcast. 328 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 16: Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And 329 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 16: you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there, you know, 330 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 16: blasting guys and right place, right time. 331 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back Damien Anderson. And that's the recipe, 332 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly 333 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals needed. Good news, The Cards are just 334 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: picked up one of the best in the business in 335 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: Neil Rackers. 336 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 5: So what fifty four to play? Neil Rackers is very 337 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: good with the on side kick. 338 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: We were all standing there, you know, waiting because that 339 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 3: was we knew that that was the next piece. You know, 340 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: you had to get that to keep the ball game going, 341 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, Neil hits a perfect ball, and 342 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: I mean it was just how you drew it up, 343 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: you know. And Damien comes up with. 344 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 5: It, Rackers with the on side kick far aside and 345 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 5: it bounce us in the air. Hey, the Cardinals have it. 346 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 5: Of the forty two. Davian Anderson comes up with it 347 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 5: on the re direction and the Cards have a chance. 348 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 5: With onunch fifty four. 349 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 10: To play, the Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and 350 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 10: Larry Loan behold they recovered it with a minute fifty 351 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 10: four to go in that football game in the desert 352 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 10: and the Vikings leading seventeen to twelve. 353 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 9: Well, I'm going to shut up about this last game. 354 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 9: Stuff done. Maybe they don't have a miracle. 355 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 10: Keep talking about it. You may be jinxing us into 356 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 10: something good here. 357 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 9: Maybe that miracle can happen. 358 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 11: You get to that onside kick and now all of 359 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 11: a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything can 360 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 11: happen against anybody anytime, and as we know, it did. 361 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: That's longtime voice of the bike means Paul Allen. More 362 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: from him later, much more, Saul. Cardinals had the ball 363 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: back one fifty four left sixty one yards to go, 364 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: needing a touchdown with one time out. After a thirty 365 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: yard pass interference and a thirteen yard completion in Nate Poole, 366 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: the Cardinals reached the Minnesota nine with thirty nine seconds 367 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: to go. 368 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 10: I meanwhile, out in the desert in Arizona, getting a 369 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 10: little bit closer. 370 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 9: You know, people are aware of this because you could 371 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 9: hear a thousand in the crowd. 372 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: There is definitely everyone is out of their seats in 373 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: three different states. When Josh McCown is put on his seat, 374 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: two straight plays quit. 375 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 5: Driving McCown looking left, hump thick of account sacked back 376 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 5: at the seventeen eyline of McCown flushed out running near side, 377 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 5: lost the ball, It's loose, and the Cardinals able the 378 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 5: pound side up of the twenty eight. 379 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: Emmittt has a presence of mind to go, Josh, get up, 380 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 3: get up. We gotta get the ball. Snap we got well, 381 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: got tome house. We gotta go. So we get to 382 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: play call and then you know, and then we've you know, unfortunately, 383 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: get the boss. 384 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 16: Now you knew that was josh skill set, Like call 385 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 16: a play that works for him, you know, get him out. 386 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 16: You know, get him out in some space so he'll 387 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 16: have a multitude of options. 388 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 5: The clock running down, under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth 389 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: down at twenty four, and. 390 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 9: It's gonna come down to this. They gotta throw it 391 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 9: into the end zone. 392 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: This is it. Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from 393 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: the twenty eight. The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging 394 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: in the balance once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen. 395 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 11: There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step 396 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 11: of the way. 397 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you? 398 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 10: And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the 399 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 10: last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty 400 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 10: five and here we go. 401 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 5: Eight seconds seven six five four. The count of the ball. 402 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: This will be the last play. The count steps up, 403 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 5: rolling far side. 404 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 7: Just so happened. He got flushed. He got flushed out 405 00:19:59,640 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 7: to the right. 406 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 5: I said, oh, here he come, but come throwing far 407 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 5: side into the end zone and the ball it is pup, touchdown. 408 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 11: Cardinals made pool and the Cardinals. 409 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: Win the game. 410 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: On the final pool and the fight. 411 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: Kiggs are going. 412 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: Home for the new year. 413 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 13: Josh Man, you know the whole time he's running he's rolling, 414 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 13: he's pointing to the right. I'm inside. I know he's 415 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 13: about to throw it over there. And the defender he 416 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 13: had no clue. 417 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 7: He had no clue. 418 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: What a great throw by Josh McCown. 419 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: He threw it up rolling, Hey Poole could get it, 420 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: and he did it. 421 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 3: I felt like it was just there was a connection 422 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 3: for us, you know, and so booming there he is, 423 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: and then the ball came out. Uh, and he makes 424 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: an unbelievable cash. 425 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 5: The Cardinals winning on the final play. Josh mccoum fen's 426 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: made pool in the back of the end zone of 427 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 5: the far side. 428 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: You would thought we won a Super Bowl. And uh, 429 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: I mean it was an unbelievable moment and edit middle 430 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: to those guys out. 431 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: There, But it meant even more to Nate Poole, the 432 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: guy who had been cut four times and then he 433 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans who had populated 434 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk in three two 435 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: one take lso. 436 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 7: Don't come back here and next to y'alling the same thing. 437 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: Nate Poole, the living embodiment of the ups and downs 438 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: of an NFL game. He was something fired up, while 439 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember, 440 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode, 441 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: always existing on the edge of the roster, so he 442 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: played with an edge. We heard it right there, and 443 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: it's amazing when you look back. How that one catch, 444 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a 445 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: game winner, How it set off a domino effect, a 446 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: whole litany of changes that altered the history of not 447 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop that 448 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and four draft franchise, quarterbacks going two different teams, 449 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer as well, 450 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: who might have gone number one overall off the Cardinals 451 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: were in that position, but they weren't. And the changes 452 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: even extended to the rule book years later. We'll get 453 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: to that when we come back. And don't forget Nate 454 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: Pool was not just a celebrity in Arizona. He was 455 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: the toast of the town in Green Bay. And we'll 456 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: relive all that when we come back to this very 457 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: special Cardinals Folktales edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle 458 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: in the Desert, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert it's 459 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: our special Cardinals Bolktales edition of the Big Red Rage 460 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: was santan Ford in Gilbert. This is where we go 461 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: into Cardinals history, go into the archives. Can't spell the 462 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: word history without the word story. And we're talking about 463 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: the final game of the two thousand and three season. 464 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: My name is Paul calvi Seen. We started by saying, 465 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: remember that one time, that one game played by two 466 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: teams in two thousand and three, that stop time in 467 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: three different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole, Cardinals receiver, and 468 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: was the in or out of bounds? We posed that question, Well, 469 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: he was most definitely inbounds, and the Vikings were most 470 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: definitely out of the playoffs, and the Cardinals were out 471 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: of the top pick in the draft. We'll get to that, 472 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: but remember when it comes to the Vikings, you're talking 473 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: about a team that not only started six to zero 474 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: and was on the verge of the playoffs, but that season, 475 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: the four worst teams in the league were the Giants, 476 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Cardinals. Each team finished 477 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: four and twelve. Each one of those teams beat the Vikings, 478 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: so you can imagine the angst on the Minnesota side 479 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: in fact, their radio announcer, the voice of the Vikings, 480 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: Paul Allen, became a meme before there even were memes 481 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: in social media, and that's where we rejoined this edition 482 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, and former Cardinals 483 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown two years later had empathy for the Vikings. 484 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings because 485 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: they were right there on the cusp, and to lose 486 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: that way, man, that's bitter. 487 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: Nate Pool's game winning playoff busting, last second fourth down 488 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns, 489 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture 490 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were 491 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: left in a state of utter disbelief. 492 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 11: People were just staring longingly on the team bust to 493 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 11: the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were 494 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 11: just downtrodden. And you just don't lose like that. Nobody 495 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 11: loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not ang 496 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 11: Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect the dots, 497 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 11: you know, of the entire thing over twenty years, it 498 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 11: hits me so vividly because of how emotional it was 499 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 11: at that moment. 500 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: The season's on the line, two receivers left and right. 501 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: McCown takes the snap, he steps up, he's all by himself, 502 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: fires into the end zone. 503 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 7: Dods Dods down. 504 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of 505 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 506 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 11: The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, hated that call. 507 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 11: He didn't let me know, but he let others know. 508 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 11: Some vice presidents here, so you know, I had some 509 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 11: conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, you know, 510 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 11: you don't script moments like that, and that's what came out. 511 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 11: So I had to deal with that very young in 512 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 11: my career. 513 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 5: I understand where Paul's coming from. You get invested in 514 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 5: the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul handled 515 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 5: it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional, 516 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 5: but that's how the fans feeling. 517 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: No, are you kidding? 518 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 9: Right? 519 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 5: That was Paul's reaction. 520 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 11: One thing I remember about the call is I looked 521 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 11: to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers 522 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 11: coach at that time, Pete Bursage, he could hear me 523 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 11: through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, and then 524 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 11: I came down. The Gardinals have knocked the Vikings out 525 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 11: of the playoffs. 526 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 2: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. 527 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 11: The way he looked at me, it was not anger 528 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 11: at me. It was one of two things. Oh my god, 529 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 11: I can't believe what just happened. Oh my god, that 530 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 11: check that I was going to get for a playoff bonus, 531 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 11: it just went up into the tenpiece. 532 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship. 533 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter 534 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio. 535 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 10: Network, and here we go, this is if the season 536 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 10: for the Packers. On the line into the end zone 537 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 10: accounts pack Hey go. 538 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: Out cutting down it as on Paco. 539 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: By label thought complete deadlock from Wayne Larity and Larry 540 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: McCarron reacting to a game they're not even calling, just 541 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: watching from two thousand miles away. 542 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 5: That is the biggest a miracle on the Packers. 543 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 10: Sadly, any reps the Packers later, they finally realizes, any rep, 544 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 10: I'm a final playoff. The regular season for the fight Kings, 545 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 10: they lose eighteen of seventeen. 546 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 9: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're gonna be 547 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 9: host of the game. 548 00:27:59,240 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 16: True. 549 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: Brett Farv and the Packers would host the Seahawks at 550 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: Lambeau to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared with 551 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM Mark 552 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping king 553 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee, 554 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: speaking of coach mac different emotions, a different reality started 555 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet, 556 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: almost somber. 557 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 14: For all that we've been through, we never quit on 558 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 14: each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what 559 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 14: character I've got in this room. 560 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you. 561 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: It was somber, and it's very sobering. You're just like, man, 562 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And 563 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: he was genuine with his works and you know, and 564 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 3: how I cared about guys, and so I think he 565 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: understood in that moment that that was probably, you know, 566 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: the last time or one of the last times he 567 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: was going to address this as a group. 568 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 14: I've never been afraid to open myself to you. Because 569 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 14: you've got my heart. You've got my heart. 570 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: You know it's a roller coaster really, because you were 571 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: just as high as it gets. You know, for fifteen 572 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: twenty minutes they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then 573 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: you know, the business sets in. 574 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 14: When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught, 575 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 14: what did I tell you last night? I cut this 576 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 14: man four times. I cut him four times, and every 577 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 14: time I did, he stood up in my office and 578 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 14: hugged me and said, Mike, if you need me, I'll 579 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 14: be back because you're the only man I want to 580 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 14: play for. 581 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: And that's the way I know that all of you 582 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: feel right now. 583 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 13: What was real motion on It was like you know, 584 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 13: your last family hug, you know, and you and it 585 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 13: hurt because we know, you know, he's a player's coach 586 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 13: and he loved the players. He want the players to do, 587 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 13: do you know, to excel, to be really great? 588 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: You know what I feel for you? 589 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: You know what I feel for you. 590 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 17: This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not 591 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 17: only love each other, but believe, believe, believe, you know. 592 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 13: Most of us felt like we let Dave down because 593 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 13: you know, we didn't come up on the winning side 594 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 13: of a lot of these games to keep him around. 595 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: I'll never ever give up on you. I love you. 596 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: Thank you. 597 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: On the very next day, with a foreign swall season 598 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired. 599 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse 600 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: after that six and oh start. As for the Packers, 601 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 1: the party was just starting and Nate Pool's celebrity was growing. 602 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 10: Nathan Poll of all people hop about that Nathan Pull 603 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 10: may become a household name in green Bay. 604 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 11: It was an amazing play. But you know, like I 605 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 11: say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but 606 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 11: that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of 607 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 11: course the next week he was given a key to 608 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 11: the city of Green Bay and he got to go 609 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 11: to their playoff game. 610 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: And that is accurate. Nate Poole, who going into the 611 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: season finale had eight catches all season and no touchdowns, 612 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: was now Packer's royalty, to the point where he got 613 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: a call from the mayor of Green Bay. 614 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 13: So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh, 615 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 13: here we go. Stop calling my phone because I'm thinking 616 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 13: it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that 617 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 13: player's gonna call me back and say, man, dude, what 618 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 13: are you doing. Then I got a call right back 619 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 13: the same number, and I'm like, okay, hey, how you 620 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 13: doing this in April? And he was like, Hey, Nate, no, 621 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 13: this is not a joke. 622 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 7: This is Mayor Schmidt. I love to get you out 623 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 7: in a speed talking I love to get you out 624 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 7: to one of the games. I said, oh no, I 625 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 7: would love to come out. 626 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: And that's not the only call he got that week. 627 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash, 628 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too. 629 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 5: Dave, Mary, Joe, Mary, Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage. 630 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Joe. 631 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: Hey, guys, thanks a lot. I was just calling to 632 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 6: wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay and to 633 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 6: give him a huge thank you. Since the Vikings started 634 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 6: off six and oh this year, I've been taking a 635 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 6: lot of grief for getting a lot of grief from 636 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 6: my friends who are Viking fans, and I would roll 637 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 6: my eyes and just say, oh, you know, won't you 638 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 6: ever learn the Vikings will find some way to implode 639 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 6: again this year and sweet revenge. It has been a 640 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 6: wonderful couple of days, and I just want to offer 641 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 6: a great big thank you. 642 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 5: Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking Date ou to dinner 643 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 5: when he gets up there. 644 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 6: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to 645 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 6: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire. 646 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 6: He will have a lot of people who will take 647 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 6: good care of him. 648 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay and 649 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: all its spense paid trip in January on the tax 650 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: Beyer's tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a 651 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: grand Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other 652 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: end of that touchdown pass QB. Josh McCown. 653 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: You know, they fly Nate up to Green Bay and 654 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: they give him a Kidah City or whatever they did, 655 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 3: and they're sending us We were getting Christmas cards from 656 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: Green Bay fans that it was their family Christmas card 657 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: and you know it was you know, scratched out and 658 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the Vikings. Go 659 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mail to the 660 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: house of the Sargento family sent the best cheese basket 661 00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: you've ever seen in your life. 662 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: That was two thousand and three. But even to this day, 663 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for 664 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: both school Nation and America's dairy lamb walking through. 665 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 3: An airport or whatever, and there will be, you know, 666 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you know you 667 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 3: owe me, you know type of thing, or it'll be 668 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 3: a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you for getting 669 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 3: us in the playoffs that year, you know, we owe you. 670 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 12: I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game, 671 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 12: and I did not like Nate Poole because I thought 672 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 12: I had a chance to be the number one pick, 673 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 12: and I used to always mess with Nate. 674 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald, not only a former Vikings 675 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: ball boy and their number one fan at the time, 676 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: but fits might have been the number one pick overall 677 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. 678 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 13: Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he 679 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 13: would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking 680 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 13: in the receiver room before the meeting about being him 681 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 13: being an number one pick. You know, as I think 682 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 13: back to what his sided bonus was, how he didn't 683 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 13: do too bad at the number three pick. 684 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 3: People said, well, y'all, you know, you cost him the 685 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: number one pick, and I go back and go, you know, 686 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: I don't think Coach Green would have I think he 687 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and 688 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately 689 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: for the Arizona Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise, 690 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: you know, through a lot of things to become a 691 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: you know, a competitive franchise, and you know, to really 692 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 3: what they are today. 693 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 5: Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what 694 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 5: a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness, 695 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 5: there goes the quarterback of the future, there goes he live. 696 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: Yep. 697 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick, 698 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll 699 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: never know who knew head coach Denny Green would have 700 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says 701 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: at number one he still would have been the Cardinals selection. 702 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: Then he said, I would have been. That's what he 703 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: told me. I would have been. 704 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 12: But you know what, it all worked his way out 705 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 12: I was able to still get here and play for him. 706 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 12: I know we didn't have the success I'd love to 707 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 12: have for him. You know, he gave me my first 708 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 12: two jobs I ever had as a ball boy and 709 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 12: then as a professional athlete, and so I owe him 710 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 12: a huge debt of gratitude and I'm just so very 711 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 12: thankful for, you know, the doors he opened for me 712 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 12: and my family. 713 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 11: Touchdown Cardinals, they pull, the Cardinals win. 714 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: The game, the final. 715 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 13: I brong my heart head to practice in the games 716 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 13: every day, and I knew, you. 717 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 7: Know, that's what it was about. As growing up as 718 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 7: a youngster. 719 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 13: That would was about, you know, bringing your hard head 720 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 13: and working out and just pushing to make the team. 721 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 5: You know, coaches say, run every route as if it's 722 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 5: your last one. Nate Pool really did it. But it 723 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 5: was like comical, like he went so hard. So pretty 724 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 5: cool to see a guy that worked that hard have 725 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 5: one of the biggest plays of the season, not just 726 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 5: for the Cardinals but for the entire league. 727 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 13: I got to you, hey, you can only do it 728 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 13: one play at a time. I got you on that play. 729 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: And needless to say, it's the play in Nate Poole's 730 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: career one of the most dramatic and consequential plays in 731 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: NFL history. 732 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. 733 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: And Nate Poole's a good person. He's a great person 734 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: to be around. And you look back at that and 735 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: that's a special moment for me in my career as well. So, 736 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 3: but it couldn't happen to a better guy. And Nate's 737 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: could dude? 738 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, who says good dudes? Finished last? Right? In fact, 739 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: as Dave McGinnis said back then, with a smile to 740 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: the media, quote, there were two receivers on the field 741 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss, we had 742 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals Folktales Miracle 743 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: in the Desert, presented by seventy two Soul for producer 744 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: Jim Mamhundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's the story of 745 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: how an unknown receiver won that day, but a Hall 746 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: of Fame receiver was on his way. 747 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 5: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history 748 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 5: and one of the greatest receivers of all time. 749 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 18: With the third choice in the two thousand and four 750 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 18: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald wide receiver, 751 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 18: University of Crave. 752 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: That was the red seat Cardinals fans at the official 753 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to 754 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: the Valley White, a departure from the climate a few 755 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: months earlier, when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against 756 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out 757 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: on the number one pick overall, ostensibly a franchise quarterback, 758 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick. 759 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A 760 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated, 761 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole, 762 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: who only had one foot down in the end zone 763 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated 764 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban, would the 765 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it 766 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when 767 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: we come back with this very special Cardinals Full Tales 768 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 1: edition of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert 769 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert, and we're wrapping up 770 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: this very special Cardinals fulk Tales edition of the Big 771 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul Kelvicy 772 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: joined by Darren Irvan. Darren Irvan covered the game. Miracle 773 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: in the Desert is the title of this Cardinal's Folktales 774 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: where we're going to the archives in some great, rarely 775 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: heard audio that are Jim Almahundro found both from the 776 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we 777 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all 778 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: talking about not only the end of the game, but 779 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: the start of a new era of Cardinals football in 780 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren, 781 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: because what if, what if the Cardinals had lost that game? 782 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: What if they had picked number one overall? Would they 783 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone 784 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? 785 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 8: You know, if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald, 786 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 8: because I think Danny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team. 787 00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 8: You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading 788 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 8: up to the draft, Denny wasn't like a lot of 789 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 8: coaches there were. Oftentimes when he was he said more 790 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 8: than maybe then maybe he should. And I remember in 791 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 8: those days, I was covering the team for the East 792 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 8: Valley Tribune. I had come out to a day in 793 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 8: the off season sometime in April, and I was the 794 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 8: only writer here and the only other media member who 795 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 8: was showing up was brad Cessmett, who was working for 796 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 8: one of the local stations that day, and he had 797 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 8: an interview apparently scheduled with Denny Green. And all they 798 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 8: did was bring Denny Green down to the media area 799 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 8: and then they just had a camera and they were 800 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 8: sitting there and they're having it. So as a media member, 801 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 8: I'm going to listen to the interview and take what 802 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 8: I can. 803 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 7: Get from it. 804 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: Hey, nobody told you couldn't. 805 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 8: So Denny Green is talking about and you have to 806 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 8: remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning 807 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 8: and Philip Rivers, those are all available with the Cardinals 808 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 8: picking third, and at this point the Cardinals quarterback was 809 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 8: Josh McCown probably, and there were questions about Josh and 810 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 8: whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh. 811 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 8: He would talk him up all the time, and at 812 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 8: one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take 813 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 8: a quarterback third overall. Well, as a reporter, I had 814 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 8: that in this day, this is pre internet, so I 815 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 8: had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously, the 816 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 8: other paper in town didn't have the story. So the 817 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 8: next day I came back. There were other writers here. 818 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 8: Ken Summer showed up, Bob Bomb from the Associated Press, 819 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 8: and they get Denny Green to come down and talk 820 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 8: and they're trying to get him to say the same 821 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 8: thing again and he won't do it. And finally Bob 822 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 8: Baum says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying 823 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 8: to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday. 824 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 8: And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday. 825 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 7: Today is today? 826 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: I tell you though, that was back in the days, 827 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 1: and we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't 828 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity 829 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way 830 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and 831 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted, 832 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: he showed up in the Cardinals locker room, and there 833 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that 834 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: he cost him the number one pick overall. 835 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made 836 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 8: a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. 837 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 13: But you do. 838 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 8: Wonder a little bit what, Okay, Eli Manning went number 839 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 8: one and then Robert Gallery went number two. But you 840 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 8: wonder a little bit if they didn't take fits and 841 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 8: they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers, how 842 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 8: different does life with the Cardinals? 843 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 7: You know happen? Now? 844 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 8: The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl 845 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 8: because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance 846 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 8: throwing to Akwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald. 847 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 8: And the Cardinals don't make the Super Bowl unless Larry 848 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 8: has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide 849 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 8: receiver ever. 850 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the 851 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants. 852 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 7: All so true. 853 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 8: So, although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants, he was 854 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 8: drafted by the Chargers and they had to make the 855 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 8: trade for Philip Rivers. 856 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 7: There's a lot of intrigue with that draft. 857 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much 858 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: of a career after that. No always remembered for what 859 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: he did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all 860 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: expenses pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because 861 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: he got a key to the city and everything else. 862 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: But they ended up changing the force out rule in 863 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: large part because of how that went down in the 864 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: end zone at Sun Devil Stadium. 865 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 8: I had no question that it was a force out play. 866 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 8: And now you have to get feet down and if 867 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 8: a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that 868 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 8: touchdown does not count in today's NFL. 869 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game. 870 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and 871 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it. 872 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert Cardinals folk Tale special thanks to 873 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: our Jim Almhundro for Darren Urban. I'm Paul Calvic once again. 874 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: An Emmy Award winning series you can find on the 875 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals YouTube page, one of many, and it's been a 876 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: pleasure telling you about it. 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