1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I should know a little bit more 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: history on the Queen Mary, but I saw it was 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: on the top ten list of like the most haunted places. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: It is correct, and it is true. I began to 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: hear breathing, very faint. At first, I really thought I 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: was hearing things, but it became louder and louder, and 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: I could finally feel the breath going down the back 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: of my neck. 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anything? 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: I've seen glimpses of the corner of my eye. I 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: look down the alleyway that I've just been walking down, 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: and there's nobody there. You know, there's no place for 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: them to go. 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, I hope everyone is getting ready for Halloween tomorrow. 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: I definitely am. I can't wait for you guys to 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: see my costume. I'm not going to tell you what 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: it is, so check it out tomorrow. Okay, Halloween is 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: definitely one of the spookiest times of the year, and 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm here for it. As some of you may know, 20 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm really interested in ghosts, spirits, and the paranormal, so 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: I thought it could be very interesting to explore some 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: of that. On today's episode, We're going to be speaking 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: with someone from the Queen Mary in Long Beach, where 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: I'm from. He's going to fill us in on the 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: ship's haunted history. So, without further ado, this is Cheekys 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: and Jill. Here with me today is Commodore Everett Hort. 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: He's also a historian who has been with the Queen 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Mary for more than forty years, which means he's probably 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: seen and heard a lot of strange things on the ship, 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: which I'm excited to hear about. Welcome, Commodore. How are you. 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing very well today. How are you doing? 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm good. You look amazing. I wish people could see 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: what you know your your uniform. I love it. 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you very much. That was great. 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm excited to have you because I 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: was born in Long Beach and I feel like I 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: should know a little bit more history on the Queen Mary. 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: But that's what we have you for. So I'm going 39 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: to learn along with my listeners. I've been there before. 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: I just don't know all of the hardcore history. So 41 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: before we get into the haunted stuff, I would like 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: you to just give us like an overview on the 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Queen Mary, Like how did it end? Up in Long Beach. 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: All that good stuff. 45 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: Well, the Queen Mary was designed all the way back 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: in the late twenties to operate along with a sister 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: ship across the North Atlantic route. It would be the 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: first and only two ship express service ever and the 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: ship would serve for thirty one years and warn peace. It, 50 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: along with its sister, the Queen Elizabeth, helped shorten World 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: War Two by up to a year by its ability 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: to safely carry troops across the North Atlantic for the 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: build up of Normandy. Oh and of course, by the 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: sixties but jet aircraft taking over the skies and a 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: more efficient way to travel. The Queen Mary used a 56 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: thousand tons of oil every twenty four hours. That's about 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: thirteen feet to the gallon if you wanted to pay 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 2: the fuel bill. And so the qu Nard Lione optingly 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: ship off because of her magnificent reputation and war and peace, 60 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: they decided that it would go to the highest bidder, 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: and the highest bidder was Long Beach, who was looking 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: for an attraction in a maritime museum. And so that's 63 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: how the Queen Mary came to Long Beach and moreover 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: became the face of Long Beach. 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, shout out to Long Beach, all right. I 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: love that. I mean, that's the main reason that Long 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: Beach wanted the ship was because they wanted a basically 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: a landmark for Long Beach. 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: Exactly, an icon And there's never been a ship that's 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: fit as iconic as the Queen Mary, unless perhaps it's 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: the Titanic for a completely different reason. But the Queen 72 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Mary was one of the greatest success stories of any 73 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: ship in living memory. I mean, if you think about 74 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: how many people the Queen Mary has actually touched, some 75 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: two point two million peaceful passengers, eight hundred and ten thousand, 76 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: seven hundred and thirty military personnel in the war here 77 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: in Long Beach since opening in nineteen seventy one, we've 78 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: seen in excess of fifty six million guests to come 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: through the ship. 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: You really know your stuff. 81 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: Well, I've been hanging around a long time. So why 82 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: my hairs great? 83 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: How long have you been there at the Queen Mary? 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: How long have you been working there? 85 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: I've started the Queen Mary on Valentine's Day in nineteen 86 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: eighty one, and the Queen Mary is a lifelong dream 87 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: of mine since I was a little boy. 88 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: You are so awesome. Oh, gonna want to hug you 89 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: right now. I love that. I love to hear when 90 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: people are so passionate, like you probably go to work 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: just happy and so excited every single day. 92 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, I never I never cease to 93 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: get a thrill when I drive up and there she 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: is floating so majestically and her custom made birth, and 95 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 2: she's just the proudest ship I've ever seen in my life. 96 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: Oh, that is so beautiful. That is so beautiful. I 97 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: love that. And now, I mean, since we're talking about it, 98 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: since you know so much about the Queen Mary, I've 99 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: heard so many things. I believe I went years ago. 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: It was like a it's like a haunted dinner. I 101 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: don't remember. It was years ago. So I mean I 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: saw that on Time magazine. It was on the top 103 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: ten list of like the most haunted places. Is that correct? 104 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: It is correct? And it is true? 105 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Oh, it is true, Okay, because I didn't know if 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: it was like real. 107 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: They raised in the South where I was raised, if 108 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: you mentioned paranormal or supernatural or ghost or anything like that, 109 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: they'd break out the rock, salt and holy water and 110 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: fix you about so I say that because I came 111 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: to California not believing in any sort of ghost or 112 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: anything like that. And for the first four or five 113 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: years working here, I crawled in every nook and cranny 114 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: of this ship, and to no avail, nothing happened. A 115 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: security guard told me a couple of months after I started. 116 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: He says, you know, the shit was haunted. While I 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: took it as an insult that something I had loved 118 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: my entire life, you know, was different, but I didn't understand. 119 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: I didn't understand what different was. And I can tell 120 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: you though, that after about I think about four and 121 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: a half years, it was I was giving some VIPs 122 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: a tour of the boiler rooms and we were walking 123 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: along the tank tops and the boilers and engines except 124 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: for one engine room have been removed. So when you 125 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: get all the way forward where the valley is, there's 126 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 2: one watertight bulkhead that goes from keel to the main deck, 127 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: and that's called the collision bulkhead. And I was just 128 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: explaining to my guest how the Queen Mary had accidentally 129 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: rammed a British cruiser in World War two and split 130 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: it in Hanat and killed three hundred and thirty eight 131 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: of the cruiser's crew. And I began to hear breathing 132 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: on the opposite side of this steel bulkhead, and it 133 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: was very fainted, for I really thought I was hearing things. 134 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: We had just enjoyed the Sunday brunch in the Queen Mary, 135 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: and so I'd had a few emosas, and I thought 136 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: I might be feeling the effects, but became louder and louder, 137 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: and I could finally feel the breath going down the 138 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: back of my neck. And it was at that point 139 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: my guests looked at me and said, maybe we better 140 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: go up topside. And you should have seen three adults 141 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: clamber up ten decks and sit under a lifeboat and 142 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: look at one another and wonder what just happened to them. 143 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: But that was only the first and it became often 144 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: after that. I heard the breathing several more times after that. 145 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I still here breathing. Sometimes 146 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: it's a long, slow, sort of Darth vadery kind of 147 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, oh my gosh, I know. Sometimes they call 148 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: your name, stop it right now. And sometimes they touch you. 149 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been different parts of the ship and 150 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: just to tap one time. I was in my office. 151 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: In my office that was really my dressing room. I 152 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: can put my feet up for you know. A few 153 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: minutes after lunch and rest in which I had done, 154 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: and I had a VIP coming at two o'clock and 155 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: I was I've just fell into a deep sleep, what 156 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: can I say? And something tapped me on the shoulder 157 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: and I woke up, and I knew my office was 158 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: locked and no one had keys to it but me, 159 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: But so I was pretty well awake after that, and 160 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: it tapped me again on the shoulder. Oh well, had 161 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: that not happened, I would have missed my appointment, and 162 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: that would have been a very bad show for myself 163 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: and the ship. But this is not a malevolent place. 164 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: It's very benevolent. When you come across the Gangway and 165 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: the Queen Mary, you feel the strongest aura of the 166 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: purest form of history, and I mean the people that 167 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: shape the world that we live in today, on the 168 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: lights of the world of Hollywood, royalty, heads of state, 169 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: the royal families of Europe and Japan and other nations, 170 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: the Shaw of Iran. They were all traveling in this 171 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: ship in the seagoing days, as well as the common folk. 172 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the Queen Mary was a three 173 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: class ship. You had first class, cabin class, and tourist class, 174 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: so it was a real mixture of humanity. And a 175 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: lot of people have asked me what do I think 176 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: is the ghost and they say, well, did anyone die here? Well, 177 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: of course people have died here. People have been dropping 178 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: dead all over the world since time began. That means 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: every freeway, every intersection, every hotel is probably full of them. 180 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: But my explanation for the enchantment of the Queen Mary 181 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: is a little bit unique, and I fashioned it toward 182 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: my own feelings. But I'll share with you for what 183 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: it's worth. If you think about the amount of labor 184 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: and human spirit that it took to construct the ship. 185 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: Four thousand Scottish shipwrights pounding rivets in ten million album 186 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: one at a time, bathing the interiors with fifty six 187 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: exotic wood veneers from all over the British Empire. Another 188 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: thirty thousand vendors from around Great Britain providing anything from textile, 189 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: silverware crystal art. Thirty seven artists would contribute to the 190 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: Queen Mary's interiors. So and then the spirit of the passenger. 191 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever been at sea in 192 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: a ship, but when the ship leaves the pier, you 193 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: become totally dependent on the ship. She is your mother, 194 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 2: she is your sustainer of life. And so much life 195 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: has been through this ship, you know, the fifty six 196 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: million people here, the two point two million people in peacetime. 197 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: The gis So I feel that as human beings, we 198 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: go and we leave a little bit of ourselves as 199 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: we go. And I think that the ship, being put 200 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: together with so much human will and love and zeal 201 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: and that really matches everything that we have inside us, 202 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: and I think that it picks up a little bit 203 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: of all of us. So really the ghosts are all 204 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: of us and the ship herself. 205 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love the way you just stated it. It 206 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: just made me see it in a completely different light. 207 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Instead of saying it's haunted, it's enchanted. I'm like, oh 208 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: my gosh, yes, it's They're probably people that love the 209 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: ship just as much as we all do, and they 210 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: never wanted to leave, so it's not necessarily they're trying 211 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: to scare you. I mean, like, for instance, whoever woke 212 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: you up was like, hey, you're going to miss your appointment. 213 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: They're actually loving exactly. 214 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: That was a friend indeed that day. 215 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: I know you have felt things, you have heard things. 216 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anything like I've never seen a ghost, 217 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: but I have had my share of moments where I've 218 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: heard and felt that breathing that you're talking about before, 219 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: But I've never seen anything. 220 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: I've seen glimpses ei the corner of my eye, and 221 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: usually it's a person that just goes by me quickly 222 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: and I don't really focus on it, but it was 223 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: in my peripheral vision. And then I'll look around and 224 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: of course I look down the alleyway that I've just 225 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: been walking down, and there's nobody there. You know, there's 226 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: no place for them to go. 227 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 228 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: I have seen them a few times, captured in videography. 229 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: A good friend of mine used to work for E 230 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: Television and he had a variety of the finest cameras 231 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: in the world. And in twenty eleven he came down 232 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: and my wife and some friends we were going through 233 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,479 Speaker 2: the dressing rooms in the pool, which the paranormal researchers 234 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: insist is a vortex into another universe. Oh, I don't know, 235 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: but I can tell you this we were walking through 236 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: and it's a very narrow alleyway and the little dressing 237 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: cubicles are on each side of the alleyway. It was dark, 238 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: but I could see the room from the pool room 239 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: shining through at the end of the hall, and my 240 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: friends in front of me with his camera, walking very slowly, 241 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, he grunts, he goes oh. 242 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: He said, I think I need to go check my 243 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: blood sugar. I feel dizzy, and I said, okay, yeah, 244 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: we'll catch up to you later. Well, he called me 245 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 2: about twenty minutes later. He says, you got to come 246 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: see what the camera's shot. And so my wife and 247 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: I went to his cabin and he replayed it for us, 248 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: and a very tall, dark figure walked out of a 249 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: steel wall at the end of the alleyway, turned toward us, 250 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: and as it comes closer, you can see the darkness 251 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: getting bigger. Then the pyrus said, the camera goes black. 252 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: You hear him grunt, and then it's light again. Oh wow, 253 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: look right through us. 254 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 255 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: There's a legend crazy. And I'm not able to prove 256 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: this because I read it in a book and I've 257 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: never found it in any of our records. But there's 258 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: a legend that there was a night steward that liked 259 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: to get off work and he usually got off his 260 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: watch around two am, and he was friends with one 261 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: of the pool attendants, and so the pool attendant would 262 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: leave the key stashed in a special place where he 263 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: could go in and take a steambath every night. Well, 264 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: one night he went in and he turned the valve 265 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: too many revolutions, and he got way too hot in there, 266 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: and he had a stroke and died. And so when 267 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: the morning watts came on, they found him in a 268 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: very well done condition. And so, you know, goodness is 269 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: to say, I mean, maybe that was that was this 270 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: chap that allegedly passed away in there. I don't know. 271 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but oh my goodness, book commodore, you don't seem 272 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: like scared at all. I mean, do you have you 273 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: ever felt afraid? Do you walk around the ship all 274 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: alone when it's dark or I don't know, I feel 275 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: like you're just not scared. 276 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Well I'm really not. But if I do get creeped out, 277 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: I'll go to another area. And I do get creeped 278 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: out occasionally, it's possible to do that. I was during 279 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: the pandemic, especially I was here a lot when you know, 280 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: there was no one else in the ship. There's just 281 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: the security staff outside. And in the afternoons, the you know, 282 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: the managing director and his team would leave and go home. Well, 283 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: I was. I was in the archive working and I 284 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: was reorganizing and filing photographs, historic photographs. And at the 285 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: top of the stairs, I've got the whole area wired 286 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: down there where everything is. I can hear if somebody 287 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: comes through a door, I know if I know how 288 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: many steps there is between that doorway and down to 289 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: where I am. Anyway, I heard the door open up 290 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: there and it closed, and there's a landing halfway down, 291 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: and I heard the footsteps go to the middle landing 292 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: and they stopped. I'm expecting to see them walk past 293 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: this room where I'm in, and fortunately there's a fence 294 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: on it that I keep locked so people don't spook me. 295 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: And the footsteps never continued. They didn't go back up, 296 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: the door didn't open or close, they didn't come down 297 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: and walked past me. So after about five minutes, I 298 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: was really starting to get wigged out, and I opened 299 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: the chain link gate and I walked to the stairway 300 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: and I looked up and there's nobody on the landing. 301 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: So I walked all the way up to the door 302 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: that I heard them come through, and it was locked 303 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: from the inside. 304 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Oh my gosh. But are there parts of 305 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: the ship that you feel are more enchanted, let's say, 306 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: than other parts that where you're like, oh, you think 307 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: about it twice. 308 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: Well, you know, naturally, it's harder to notice things like 309 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: that when you're in a really populated area of the 310 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: ship because the ship's you know, her daily organism of 311 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 2: passengers and visitors. Everyone is enjoying themselves, so you don't 312 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: notice it. But if you get down like into the 313 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: boiler rooms, it's usually very quiet down there, or where 314 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: the archive is, where my dressing room is. Down there, 315 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: it's very very secluded, and you could die down there 316 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: and then nobody find you for a month. What the heck? 317 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: Just kidding? 318 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: Have people left to people that started working at the ship, 319 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: but the Queen Mary and then just said, you know, 320 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: this is too much, I'm leaving. 321 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: We've had a couple of people that it was overwhelming 322 00:17:55,040 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: for them. The story of Cabin B three forty I 323 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: think in the forties, a fellow died of natural causes 324 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: in that cabin. And then in the sixties there was 325 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: a night steward that answered a call for a lady 326 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: passenger that was awakened by a man who pulled the 327 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: covers off of her bed and dropped him at the 328 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: foot of the bed. And then you know, when she 329 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: flicked the light on, he was gone, Oh my god. 330 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: And so the steward came in says, madam, no one's 331 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: com or gone from your cabin all night. And so 332 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: that particular cabin B three forty in the mid eighties, 333 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: there was a housekeeper that went there and she cleaned 334 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: the room and she was finished except for putting the 335 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: towels in the bathroom. And her maid cart was right 336 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: outside the door, so no one could have gone in 337 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: or out without her seeing them. And when she gets 338 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: back in to put the towels up, all the covers 339 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: are pulled off the two beds and wadded in the 340 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: floor at the foot of the bed. And so she quit. 341 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry. I would have done the same thing. 342 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: I would have been like, you know what, as much 343 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: as I love you, Queen Mary and I appreciate you, 344 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's what I commend you and I admire 345 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: you for the love and the passion that you have 346 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: for the ship because I don't know, I just I 347 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: don't know if I could do it. 348 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: Well, you could because all you have to remember is 349 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: they can't hurt you unless you fall running. 350 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: Has anyone ever come to the ship to try to 351 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: get rid of, you know, the spirits in any way, 352 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: because you know they have rituals and things like that. 353 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Has anyone tried. 354 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: Not that I know of, but I'm sure they probably have. 355 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I feel like if they're not bothering, 356 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they're kind of scaring you. They could freak 357 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: you out, keep you out a little bit. But that's 358 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: what my mom would always say. She's like, you know what, 359 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: you got to be afraid of living people because they 360 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: can really hurt you, these ghosts or spirits or souls. 361 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: Someone told me don't ever follow them if they tell 362 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: you come and you start following, like, don't do that. 363 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess if you see it that way, 364 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: you're right, my. 365 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: Mom, She's right, You're mama so wisely. 366 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: Yes, right, yes, yes she is, yes she is well. 367 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: But you know, I just don't let them unnerve me. 368 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: I love the Queen Mary so much and her indigenous 369 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: magic is so compelling to me that it's really a feature. 370 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 2: And over the years, the paranormal activity has really become 371 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: a golden rivet for the ship, if you will, Yeah, 372 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: because it captures people's interest that would not normally visit 373 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: the Queen Mary, and especially a lot of youngsters. You 374 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: know that they're not as enthralled with history as somebody 375 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: like myself might be. But maybe if they come here 376 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: on a paranormal hunt or something like that, then they 377 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 2: might hear some of the history of the ship, and 378 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: they do quite often, and they come away with a 379 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: different view of the Queen Mary and what it means. 380 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: It is meant. 381 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, in this short conversation, that's how I feel. 382 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: I feel. 383 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I've always loved the Queen Mayor because, 384 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm from Long Beach, but now speaking 385 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: to you, I see it in a different way. So 386 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: I thank you for that. And now that we're talking 387 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: about paranormal like tours, tell us a little bit more 388 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: about some that you guys have, like, for instance, the 389 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: Gray Ghost Project. 390 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: Yes, the Great Ghost Project is going to be a 391 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: new paranormal investigation. And when I say that, it means 392 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: that our master investigator and illusionist, Aiden Sinclair will be 393 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: leading these investigations. And Aiden is very gifted spiritually, and 394 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: he also does a show on board with us as 395 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: well in the Revenant Room. So and it's a seance, 396 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: but he goes back and he contacts, you know, some 397 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: of the some of the spirits in the ship. And 398 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: he's a really fascinating and talented man. 399 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: That sounds very intriguing. 400 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: Yes, and you know there's a difference between us giving 401 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: you a tour and telling you ghost story or having 402 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: someone that's really a psychic going on an investigation with you. 403 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: Definitely that sounds very very interesting to me. I mean, 404 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: is it's something that you guys just do around like 405 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: Halloween or is it all year round? 406 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: It's gonna be all year round, Friday through Sunday. 407 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, Okay, So I really I need to go. 408 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: I haven't been to the Queen Mary in so long. 409 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, Queen Mary, forgive me, but I love you. 410 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 1: But now speaking to you, Commodore, I definitely I have 411 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: to go visit it. And I think everyone that's listening 412 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: as well. I just I see it in a different light, 413 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: and I loved how you just changed the perception for me, 414 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: which is it's enchanted. It's a beautiful piece of art, 415 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: and there's so much history. So I just now I'm 416 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: not necessarily afraid. Now I'm just going to be like, 417 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: you know what, they can't hurt me anyways. I'm gonna 418 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: enjoy myself. 419 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: You should. The Queen Mary is meant to be enjoyed. 420 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: And as I said, she was one of the most 421 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: popular ships the world has ever known. And her last 422 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: captain used to say, I knew him well. I used 423 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: to visit his home in England. His name was John 424 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: Treasure Jones, and he used to say that Queen Mary 425 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: is the closest thing to a living being that I 426 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: have ever commanded. She even breeds. And you know, in 427 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: the day that the ship was launched, the hull the 428 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: hall was finished and launched into the River Clyde in Scotland, 429 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 2: King George the Fifth made some very remarkable comments in 430 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 2: his speech that day. He said, may she no longer 431 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: be a number on the books, but a ship in 432 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: the world, alive with beauty, energy and strength, and may 433 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 2: she carry the peoples of the nations to come together 434 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: as students and leave his friends. Today we have the 435 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: happy task of sending forth on her way, this stagliest 436 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: ship now in being. And he all but spoke the 437 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: soul into the Queen Mary. And someone else spoke that day, 438 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: and they weren't up in Scotland with the launching and 439 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: the royal family and the two hundred fifty thousand guests. 440 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: She was a very humble lady and lived in London, 441 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: but she was a psychic. Her name was Lady Mabel 442 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: ford Escu Harrison, and on that same day Lady Mabel 443 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: said these words. Most of us will be gone when 444 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: this takes place, but the ship called the Queen Mary 445 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: will know her greatest fame and popularity when she never 446 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: sells another mile or carries another fair paying passenger. Fifty 447 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: six million people since the Queen Mary's propellers have turned 448 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: a revolution. So I think that was that was quite 449 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: on insight. 450 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. I love that. I am so happy that 451 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: I was able to speak to you, and I love 452 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: listening to you because I feel can you transmit the 453 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: love that you have for the ship, and it makes 454 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: me want to love it even more so I want 455 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 1: to thank you. And before I let you go, I 456 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: just want to know what are your plans for Halloween night? 457 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: Oh? My plans for Halloween night? Well, I'll probably be 458 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: on the sofa waiting for the little trigger treaters like 459 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: everyone else. 460 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: Nice. Yep, that's what I like to do, to be honest. 461 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: When I was younger, I'm like, Okay, I want to 462 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: go get candy. Now I'm like, you know, I'm gonna 463 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: sit down and enjoy some television and drink some cocoa 464 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: or maybe I don't know, have some wine and give 465 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: everyone some candy. 466 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: Here you go. A great Halloween, Yes. 467 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: A great Halloween exactly. Well, thank you so much, Commodore. 468 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: It's been such a pleasure speaking to you. Thank you 469 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: for your time and for your insight and all the 470 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: history that you have given us. And I hope you 471 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: enjoyed our conversation as well. 472 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: Oh I certainly did you know. My wife will be 473 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: glad that we had this conversation because she won't have 474 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: to hear about the Queen Mary when I get home 475 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: from work tonight because I got to talk it out. 476 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: Oh, it's amazing. We'll tell her, I said, hello, sure will. 477 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Commodore. I'm sending you a big hug and 478 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: hopefully I see you there soon at the ship. 479 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: I'll be looking for it. 480 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: All right, sounds good? So you guys, thank you for listening, 481 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: los kiro mucho, and I will catch you on the 482 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: next episode. Okay, do you need advice on love, relationships, 483 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: health emails? I'm so excited to share with you that 484 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: my Cheekys and Chill podcast will have an extra episode 485 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: drop each week. I'll be answering all your questions. Just 486 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: leave me a voice message first nine Monday. 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