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Speaker 2: It is correct, and it is true. I began to

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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen anything?

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Speaker 2: I've seen glimpses of the corner of my eye. I

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, I hope everyone is getting ready for Halloween tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I definitely am. I can't wait for you guys to

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Speaker 1: I'm really interested in ghosts, spirits, and the paranormal, so

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Speaker 1: I thought it could be very interesting to explore some

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Speaker 1: of that. On today's episode, We're going to be speaking

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Speaker 1: ship's haunted history. So, without further ado, this is Cheekys

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Speaker 1: and Jill. Here with me today is Commodore Everett Hort.

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Speaker 1: He's also a historian who has been with the Queen

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Speaker 3: On the ship, which I'm excited to hear about. Welcome, Commodore.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing very well today. How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: You look amazing. I wish people could see what you

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 3: That was great. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have you because I was born in

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Speaker 3: But that's what we have you for.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to learn along with my listeners. I've

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Speaker 1: I would like you to just give us like an

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Speaker 2: Well, the Queen Mary was designed all the way back

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Speaker 2: ship would serve for thirty one years and warn peace. It,

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Speaker 2: along with its sister, the Queen Elizabeth, helped shorten World

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Speaker 2: and the highest bidder was Long Beach, who was looking

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, shout out to Long Beach, all right. I

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the main reason that Long Beach wanted

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Speaker 2: Exactly, an icon And there's never been a ship that's

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Speaker 3: You really know your stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've been hanging around a long time. So why

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Speaker 2: I've started the Queen Mary on Valentine's Day in nineteen

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Speaker 3: You are so awesome. Oh, gonna want to hug you

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Speaker 1: I love to hear when people are so passionate, like

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, I never I never cease to

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Speaker 1: And now, I mean, since we're talking about it, since

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Speaker 2: It is correct? And it is true?

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Speaker 2: did anyone die here? Well, of course people have died here.

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Speaker 2: So I feel that as human beings, we go and

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Speaker 2: And I think that the ship, being put together with

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Speaker 1: I love the way you just stated it. It just

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Speaker 1: it's They're probably people that love the ship just as

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anything like I've never seen a ghost,

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Speaker 2: I have seen them a few times, captured in videography.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but oh my goodness, book commodore, you don't seem

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Speaker 2: And the footsteps never continued. They didn't go back up,

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: But are there parts of the ship that you feel

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, naturally, it's harder to notice things like

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Speaker 2: it's very very secluded, and you could die down there

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Speaker 3: What the heck?

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Speaker 2: Just kidding?

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Speaker 2: And so the steward came in says, madam, no one's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. I would have done the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I would have been like, you know what, as much

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know if I could do it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you could, because all you have to remember is

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Speaker 1: Has anyone ever come to the ship to try to

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Speaker 2: Not that I know of, but I'm sure they probably have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like if they're not bothering,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're kind of scaring you. They could freak

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Speaker 1: what my mom would always say. She's like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Someone told me don't ever follow them if they tell

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess if you see it that way,

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Speaker 2: My mom, she's right, You're mama so wisely.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, yes, yes she is, yes she is well.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I just don't let them unnerve me.

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Speaker 2: I love the Queen Mary so much and her indigenous

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Speaker 2: because it captures people's interest that would not normally visit

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Speaker 2: they do quite often, and they come away with a

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Speaker 2: It is meant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in this short conversation, that's how I feel. I feel.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've always loved the Queen Mayor because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I'm from Long Beach, but now speaking

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Speaker 3: So I thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: And now that we're talking about paranormal like tours, tell

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Great Ghost Project is going to be a

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Speaker 2: that our master investigator and illusionist, Aiden Sinclair will be

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Speaker 2: he also does a show on board with us as

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Speaker 2: but he goes back and he contacts, you know, some

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Speaker 3: That sounds very intriguing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you know there's a difference between us giving

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Speaker 1: Definitely that sounds very very interesting to me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is it's something that you guys just do around like

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Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, Okay, So I really I need to go.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been to the Queen Mary in so long.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Queen Mary, forgive me, but I love you.

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Speaker 1: But now speaking to you, Commodore, I definitely I have

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Speaker 1: And I loved how you just changed the perception for me,

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Speaker 1: which is it's enchanted. It's a beautiful piece of art,

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Speaker 1: you know what, they can't hurt me anyways. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: You should. The Queen Mary is meant to be enjoyed.

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Speaker 2: And as I said, she was one of the most

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Speaker 2: his speech that day. He said, may she no longer

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Speaker 2: be a number on the books, but a ship in

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Speaker 2: the world, alive with beauty, energy and strength, and may

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Speaker 2: she carry the peoples of the nations to come together

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Speaker 2: as students and leave his friends. Today we have the

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Speaker 2: happy task of sending forth on her way, this stagliest

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Speaker 2: and they weren't up in Scotland with the launching and

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Speaker 2: the royal family and the two hundred fifty thousand guests.

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Speaker 2: She was a very humble lady and lived in London,

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Speaker 2: but she was a psychic. Her name was Lady Mabel

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Speaker 2: said these words. Most of us will be gone when

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Speaker 2: will know her greatest fame and popularity when she never

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Speaker 2: six million people since the Queen Mary's propellers have turned

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Speaker 2: a revolution. So I think that was that was quite

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Speaker 2: on insight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, definitely. I love that.

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Speaker 1: I am so happy that I was able to speak

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Speaker 1: to you, and I love listening to you because I

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Speaker 1: feel can you transmit the love that you have for

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Speaker 1: the ship, and it makes me want to love it

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Speaker 1: even more. So I want to thank you, and before

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Speaker 1: I let you go. I just want to know what

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Speaker 1: are your plans for Halloween night?

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Speaker 2: Oh? My plans for Halloween night? Well, I'll probably be

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Speaker 1: Nice. Yep, that's what I like to do, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: When I was younger, I'm like, Okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: go get candy. Now I'm like, you know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: sit down and enjoy some television and drink some cocoa

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Speaker 1: or maybe I don't know, have some wine and give

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Speaker 1: everyone some candy.

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Speaker 2: Here you go. A great Halloween, Yes.

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Speaker 1: A great Halloween exactly. Well, thank you so much, Commodore.

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Speaker 1: It's been such a pleasure speaking to you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for your time and for your insight and all the

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Speaker 1: enjoyed our conversation as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh I certainly did you know? My wife will be

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Speaker 2: glad that we had this conversation because she won't have

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Speaker 2: to hear about the Queen Mary when I get home

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Speaker 2: from work tonight because I got to talk it out.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's amazing. We'll tell her, I said, hello, sure will.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Commodore. I'm sending you a big hug and

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Speaker 1: hopefully I see you there soon at the ship.

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Speaker 2: I'll be looking for it.

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