1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL podcast has a great swing 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: on the softball feel. Yes we do. Welcome to another 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: addition to the Around the NFL podcast. My name is 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Dan Hanss and I am joined in a conference room 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: filled with some heroes, Mark Sesler, Chris Westling. What is up? Boys? 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Heydn Can you turn me up in my headphones? Ricky? 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Turn me up in my headphones? That's unnatural. When I 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: say that was extremely That's good. Now it sounds good. Thanks, Ricky, 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: you got it? Hi, Erica, is this our last show 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: in a conference room on the NFL media compound? It is? 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: It is? Yeah, wow, so make the most of it. 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: What an experience it's been. This would be where the 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: montage comes in and it's just us talking like shlubs 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: for like five different like camera shots and me lugging 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: equipment back and forth by myself, plugging in all this stuff. Yeah, 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: you got the worst of it. You don't have anybody? 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: What about it, Eddie Spaghetti? Yeah, not scrapping young man. 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: He can't be helping you. Yeah. I'm an independent woman 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: who don't need no man. I believe it, Ricky. Uh. 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: This is the Thursday edition of the Round the NFL podcast. Um, 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: this is the final week of the summer where we 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: just have two shows. That's it. Summer vacation is over 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: for the boys. Greg Rosenthal back Monday, uh and all 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: four of us heroes will be together three times a 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: week starting next week when all the training camps open. 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: In fact, we were talking about on Monday West. Some 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: camps have indeed opened this week, including the Denver Broncos, 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: your boys West, and don't think I'm not noticing West. 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't think I didn't notice this. They got to 30 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: camp early. Oh yeah, it all is checking out on 31 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: on your ledger in terms of you believe them to 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: be a powerhouse and he was already practicing there. Try 33 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: Hard has has gotten my attention because that's a try 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: hard move. Let's just get there before everyone else. Newer people, 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: newer listeners of the show might not be aware that 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: our podcast have been way ahead of the curve, tracking 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: teams that report to whether it's organized team activities in 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: the spring or training cape in August, the teams are 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: report earlier, or almost always the true powerhouses of football 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: the teams are report later. Cough cough two thousand seventeen 41 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: Lions cough cough usually fall by the wayside, I think, 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: and in Detroit's work speaks for itself up late and you, 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: you know, you spit out another hideously dull season. Speaking 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: of which, the Seattle Seahawks saw this report. They've decided 45 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: to come to camp a week earlier this year. But 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: it's just the rookies right still. It's it's never done 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: that under a pet Carell before. And this is a 48 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: playoff team last year. I don't have to ask you 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: to connect the dots. You're on the case. Uh, coming 50 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: up on today's the mail bag is back. I forget 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: have j Glazer or whatever competition is out there. I 52 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: don't even track the competition. It's one of those things. 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: There's no side view mirror, there's no rear view mirror. 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Glazer feels the same way. Um My mail bag is 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: going up on NFL dot com on Friday, and we 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: will discuss some of the questions that we're in said 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: mail bag and perhaps a couple that were not a 58 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: little later in the show, also wes he's back to 59 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: grinding summer breaks over that that is using the word 60 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: grinding liberally. All I see is two pieces on his 61 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: um archive have been added in the last several days. 62 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: Uh so West, as you know a man that knows 63 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: the rosters of the NFL. He shared his thinnest and 64 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: deepest position groups as we enter twenty and nineteen. So 65 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: we'll take a look at that and talk about some 66 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: of the teams and units that jump out to us. 67 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: But before that, let us do some news. But all 68 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: of them were sharp and right where he wanted to 69 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: draw you do you know that? And warm ups if 70 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna have it. They like that, like a starting 71 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: pitching or something. Uh warm ups, not really, But then 72 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: when I woke up this morning, I was feeling pretty dangerous. 73 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: Listen to that kid, Mark Settler, That's what I call him. 74 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: The kid. Well, I don't think it's an act with him. 75 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean he is just he is who he is. 76 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: So I'm on board. Great piece on ESPN this week, 77 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: um a long form or feature on Baker Mayfield by 78 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: the great Mina Kimes And guess what Mark little early 79 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: birthday present for me to you or late depending how 80 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: you look at it. On our show next Wednesday, Mina 81 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Kimes to talk about her up close and personal look 82 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: at your hero. I love it, she wrote, I would 83 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: just say, go read this thing, because I learned a 84 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: lot about Baker Mayfield, and I think that has a 85 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: lot to do with the way that she gets to 86 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: know her subjects, frames her questions. So and all Star guests, No, 87 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: that Mina did fine, But what about me? Oh you? 88 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: I mean I was saving that part for now. What 89 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: you've done is the Lord's work, Dan, And again it's 90 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: just for you, buddy. I appreciate it to no end. 91 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: Let's get going with the news. The Falcons doing business again, 92 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: but not with Julio Jones. Dion Jones, the playmaking linebacker, 93 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: had been set to enter the final season of his 94 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: rookie deal for Atlanta. Well, they like him. They're keeping 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: him around. The inc Jones to a four year, fifty 96 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: seven million dollar extension thirty four million guaranteed that is 97 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: confirmed by the team turning twenty November. This is one 98 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: of the top linebackers in the game when it comes 99 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: to past garbage. And I don't need to tell you 100 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: modern football fan that you need your coverage linebackers to 101 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: succeed on defense in the modern NFL West. The foul 102 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: Cans we know they can score, maybe not as pro 103 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: pro prolifically as they had a couple of years ago, 104 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: but they can always put up points. It's the defense 105 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: that you want, So you want to keep a guy 106 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: like this in the building, and they do well. You 107 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: mentioned it's he's sort of the new breed of linebacker. 108 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: This is what defensive coordinators want. It's what a lot 109 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: of people are calling a money backer, where you are 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: a linebacker with safety level speed, uh probably closer to 111 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: safety level level size, and you can cover tight ends 112 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: out of the backfield. They don't have to hide you 113 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: too much in the run game. And I think that 114 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: this is where linebackers are going in the NFL. Dion Jones, 115 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: it's and we saw the difference on that defense when 116 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: they lost him for a big portion of last year 117 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: along with their other entries. This is the Falcons to me, 118 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: is this is the team that is set up for 119 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: a major bounce back. I mean they I just I try. 120 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: I picked him for the Super Bowl last year and 121 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: that obviously went completely south. I wouldn't hesitate to think 122 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: about doing that again. It feels like it's one of 123 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: those teams that everybody is sleeping on just because of 124 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: the injuries last year. And then I guess the everybody's 125 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: got questions, and they're One question to me is can 126 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: those rookie offensive linemen step in and not be liabilities 127 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: right off the bat? And I think if that's the case, 128 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: there's no reason this cannot be a playoff. If that 129 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: works out. They have a deep line if that works out. 130 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: And yes, Grady Jarrett, that deal got done on Monday. 131 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: As we said, Julio Jones, they're looking to get a 132 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: long term deal done there with the greatest wide receiver 133 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: in their franchise history. So this team remains um kind 134 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: of a model of stability in the NFC, and let's 135 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: see if they can get back to the playoffs. Uh 136 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: this season. In other news, West, you and I we 137 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: got a sandwich proposition locked in. And you know Nick Fortier, 138 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: he does the damn thing. I'd go get my lunch 139 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: dot org tracking every wager that we make on this show. Uh, 140 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: and I already have as they look at it. First 141 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: of all, of course, Nick has it updated, because that's 142 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: what Nick does. I'm already locked into two bets. Excuse me, 143 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: sandwich props already. I got one mark when you and 144 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I were going at it a few weeks ago. Apparently 145 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Jets will beat Browns in Week two. That's out there 146 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: as a sandwich prop. I don't remember that. Which which 147 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: side did I come down on that one? I mean, 148 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: you have you took me on it, so I guess 149 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: we we have a sandwich on that. I don't remember 150 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: that at all. I don't either, but that was a 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: heated um back and forth. It was a blur at 152 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: that point. Also, Rob Gronkowski, I have a wager with 153 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: West is is playing for the Patriots by December. Mike 154 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: Florio Pro Football Talk reported this week that a source 155 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: close to Gronk pegs his potential for a first annual 156 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: unretirement at forty percent. Oh s, you are so banged. 157 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: It's July six, and there's already sources putting it at 158 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: and you could point to, oh, he's down fifteen pounds. 159 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: All he has to do is gain like seven to 160 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: ten pounds and he's fine. You banged and you know it. West, 161 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: I'll let you get out of the prop right now. 162 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: Here's why I'm not worried. You want to get out 163 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: of the prop right now. Here's what I'm not worried. 164 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: If I'm Rob Ronkowski, I'm not dialing up my good 165 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: buddy Mike Florio to tell him how what percentage chance 166 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: I might play in December? How does Mike Florio I 167 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: know this? Gronk has an entourage. It's a leaky enterage. 168 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: Ron doesn't even know what percentage chance he's playing. A 169 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: weird thing to put a number to gros Yeah, that's unpleasant. 170 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Why did you look at me? You have a leaky 171 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: entourage and when that becomes grosser when you put it 172 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: and that and that's you. Guys are my entourage and 173 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: we are leaky. Absolutely so. West I I'm giving you 174 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: the chance to get out now, put your tail between 175 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: your legs and just acknowledge that you were wrong. Who 176 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: am I talking to you? First of all, I can't 177 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: be wrong before it happens. I mean, we don't even 178 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen here. That's what we do. 179 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: We look into the future as analysts and we predict things. Right, 180 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm sticking. I have it just as much confidence now 181 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: as I did before. Rob Gronkowski told Mike Florio that 182 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: he might play. I mean, at the core of this, 183 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: are you concerned about your side of the bet and 184 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: you're try and to you know, put this on West 185 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: to get him to get out of a bet that 186 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to be a part of. I'm I'm 187 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: resigned to it because as a Jets fan who perhaps 188 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: delusionally is harboring thoughts of competing in the division this year, 189 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't want this guy coming back. Even if he's 190 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: not the same guy who once was. You know he 191 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: would he would provide a spark to the team if 192 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: they if they had him. I just I just acknowledge 193 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: it will happen. The first thing that concerns me, though, 194 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: is player X retires then immediately lose his I know 195 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: it's not he could gain some of it back, but 196 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: the mentality behind that tells me you're not thinking about 197 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: coming back a month from now just to skip training camp. 198 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gronk. You know, he's in the gym 199 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: seven hours a day and then partying the next nine 200 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: hours after that, then sleeping and then repeating, I mean what, 201 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: he's not reading books. You know, that's a wine country, 202 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, just smelling it and doing the thing where 203 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: you sip the wine and then spit it into the 204 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: metal thing. None of that's happening. He's not enjoying retirement. 205 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: He's not traveling. You know, well he's Gronk. Anybody else 206 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: want to take me up on it. I'll take you 207 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: up on it. He'll be back. You believe it will be. 208 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: And wait, what is the parimeters? By December? December one, December, 209 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: by December, by the first minute of December. It needs 210 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: to happen. Get I'm signed by December seven. That doesn't 211 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: mean it happened. It happens in December. It could happen 212 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: in November twelve, just as long as it happens before 213 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: the calendar flips to December. I'll take you up on that. 214 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: He'll be back, Okay, and I don't mean back on 215 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: the field, signed with the team practicing. Don't try to 216 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: catch me in any type of loophole there. I know 217 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: how you people operate on the other side of the table. 218 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: Why how we operate. Why would be he's either playing 219 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: for the Patriots or no. It can't be like, well, 220 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: he didn't play though until just you know, signed, signed, signed. No, 221 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: that's fine, all right, moving on. Yes, the Broncos began 222 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: training camp and already there was an injury gere. Multiple 223 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: reporters at the practice reported that linebacker Todd Davis had 224 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: to be carted off with lower body injury. James Palmer 225 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: of NFL Media reports that Davis injured his calf. He'll 226 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: have an MRI I, but the initial feeling is that 227 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: he avoided a serious injury. UM. With that in mind, 228 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: I'd like to perform right here in the beast Quake 229 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: conference room. I wish we could lower the lights, but 230 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: join join me in a seance. Deer football gods, great, 231 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: mighty and powerful football gods, please bestow your mercy on 232 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: the players of the National Football League this summer, these 233 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: young men who represent the apex the human body is 234 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: capable of how cruel it is for us mortals to 235 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: see these fine specimens struck down. They're prime. If you 236 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: must injure, please focus on petty thieves, Bagel Bosco, certain 237 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: political leaders, the devisive ones for homes. Show your greatest mercy. 238 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: Two men in green and play in New Jersey and 239 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: say it's New York the Browns team. Thank you all, 240 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: great and merciful football gods. We put our faith and 241 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: trust in ye. We're about specs of matter. Don't contendue 242 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: to notice that I would get a mad if he 243 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: said something. I think a football out masts we are 244 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: pawns in your one dress game show Mercy Show Mercy, Yes, 245 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: West your on. What are the odds would have a 246 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: seance on this podcast and it's not led by Mark Sessler. 247 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: I think Marks rubbed off that was powerful. I mean, 248 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm sure that will go according to plan, 249 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: no injuries all season long. Just it doesn't have to 250 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: be on these men, these these young men, these specimens 251 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote for. Also save that for the religious podcast, 252 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: the theology pod Theology coming up later this summer, perhaps 253 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: finally in the news, Mark, I wanted to get your 254 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on this. Have you heard about this Area fifty 255 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: one thing? I have the Internet going nuts. Uh, they're 256 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: talking about a mass invasion of Area fifty one. More 257 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: than one million people have signed up on Facebook um 258 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: with the plan to breach the gates of the famous 259 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: and some people a lot of people that listen to 260 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: this podcasts are not from this country. Maybe they don't 261 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: know what Area fifty one is. A famous, top secret 262 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: government facility perhaps in the world, and there's you know, 263 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: for decades and decades, there is the general belief that, 264 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: in addition to military testing of various warcraft etcetera, etcetera. 265 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: If you believe on I believe in life beyond this planet, 266 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: that there might be spacecraft, alien space craft that is 267 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: being housed and studied at Area Roswell, New Mexico. Of 268 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: course back in yes, correct. Anyway, the event called storm 269 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: Area fifty one, they can't stop us. All is set 270 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: to go down on September mark and I ask you specifically, 271 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: are you in. I don't know if I'd be allowed 272 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: time off from work to go to I think it's 273 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: gonna lead to it is a little bit of a 274 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: rough time schedule wise. I think it would lead to 275 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: um many deaths if they attempt this. The military is 276 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: not going to fold the tent and just allow people 277 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: to roll in off a Facebook campaign. I think it 278 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: would um being an ultra tragedy if they if they 279 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: attempt this, This is just a joke, right, I don't. 280 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: I think it started that way and then it stocked 281 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: up a lot of kind of as a joke, and 282 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: now it's got some heat to it. A million people. No, 283 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: this is this is totally a joke and this isn't 284 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: like that's never gonna happen. I predict that not one 285 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: person will march on Area fifty one on that day. No, 286 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: but take them crazy. I bet there will will be 287 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: some idiots that do it. But the government has contracted 288 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: out um defense forces that roam the grounds in big 289 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: like white like Dodge trucks and um like submachine guns 290 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: and things of that kind of hell escape is that, 291 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: and they're allowed to shoot on site because you're not 292 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: just a rolling up federal to the front door of 293 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: this place and catching them by surprise. It's it's viewed 294 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: as it is viewed as essentially a fortified military complex 295 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: of the US government. So you kind of forfeit, forfeit 296 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: your right to live if you choose to quote unquote 297 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: invade it. Yeah, I would. Here's what I would do 298 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: as a side mission to this is get a large 299 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: group of people to storm Antarctic up because I believe 300 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: that the the number one hot spot for alien technology 301 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: is underneath the ground in Antarctica, in the Arctic territory. 302 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Forget this, this is a diversion. Forget Area fifty one. 303 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: We all know that there's probably something going on there, 304 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: but this is what This is the part of the 305 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: Earth that no one's investigating. Global warming could affect whatever 306 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: is going on, not by sept That's what's happening in 307 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: the news. Remember, go ahead, now you go no, I'm 308 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: just gonna say, you seem to know a lot of 309 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: people that are a little bit out there. What do 310 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: you have anybody that signed up? But remember those kids 311 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: and like middle school that they'd be like at you know, 312 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: eleven fifty five when the clock strikes, we're going to 313 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: start a food fight. And then rolls around and then 314 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: like everyone's sort of like tense and like look and 315 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: the teachers like heard about it, so they're kind of 316 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: on watch. And then like one like jackass stands up 317 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: and throws like a bag of chips and then he 318 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: just gets in trouble. That's what's gonna happen one dumb person. 319 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: You're not But instead of getting sent to the principal office, 320 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: that person will be shot seventeen times. They will be 321 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: scattered by multiple gunfire. Face. I can't put them back 322 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: together again. All right, that's what's happening in the news. 323 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: Let's get to Yes West Road. A double banger. I mean, 324 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: you want to talk about a guy putting in the work. 325 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Let's let's calm down on that. This dude gets it, Uh, 326 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: West Road two pieces thinnest position groups and deepest position groups. 327 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: I read it. Of course, it's it's the stuff that 328 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: makes West one of the top NFL writers. Trademark to 329 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: West content exactly. Um, I'm gonna start with you, Mark, 330 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: Why didn't get us going? Why don't we pick out 331 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: some things? Uh? Some teams, some units that kind of 332 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: jumped out to you? And of course West pipe in wherever. 333 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: I like the the deep thin um aspect of this. 334 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: I like to call it thicker thin like th h 335 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: I c C. Some of these teams have a lot 336 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: of a lot of juice here, I come away with further, 337 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: I know everyone thinks that the Denver Broncos are your 338 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: ride or die. It's just West. Oh you're saying. I 339 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: think the West has been been pushing hard for the Broncos. 340 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: It's been a themed But I don't think nearly as 341 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: much as your belief in the Dallas Cowboys, because they 342 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: show up twice on the thick list. I think a 343 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: part of that is I can't believe that somebody as 344 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: smart as Greg or anyone else following the NFL does 345 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: not see that the Cowboys are an absolutely loaded team 346 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: and they're a playoff team, Like, I just don't see 347 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: why people expect them to come back to the pack. Well, 348 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: so you have their linebacker crew, which we are not 349 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: surprised at either because this should be evident, but also 350 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: their offensive line. Yeah, like the linebackers. To me, just 351 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: think of how much more successful Jason Garrett would have 352 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: been if he had depth at linebacker behind Sean Lee. 353 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: For the decade he's been in charge. Every time Sean 354 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: Lee went down during the prime of Sean Lee's career, 355 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: the defense fell apart. And now he's a luxury, not 356 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: a necessity. In fact, they're better off when he doesn't 357 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: play because then you've got Layton Vanderess and Jalen Smith 358 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: out there, so you have if one of those guys 359 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: go down, you've got Sean Lee you plug in there. 360 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: I think that's a great insurance policy offensive line. I 361 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: like this one because if you remember back to Zeke 362 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Elliott's rookie year, a big part of um the discussion 363 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: there was not only did they do the move which 364 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: a lot of teams are afraid of, which is take 365 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: a running back early in the draft, uh, they then 366 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: put that player with an a lead offensive line We 367 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: didn't hear that as much last year, and I think 368 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: a part of that was what was going on with 369 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: ballpro center Travis Frederick. That is, I think people are 370 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: sleeping on that a little bit west, which you're not 371 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: obviously that if Frederick comes back and he's strong, uh, 372 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: and these other pieces, Tyrann Smith, if he's healthy and 373 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: is who Tyron Smith is, and these other strong players. 374 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: Of course, Zack Martin that the idea that this offensive 375 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: line can be dominant in addition to having of a 376 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: dominant running back, and that's scary stuff, especially when the 377 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: factor in that they went and they got a premier 378 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: wide receiver on the outside. Now and Dak Prescott is fine, good, two, 379 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: very good. Perhaps that's a great offense, and I don't 380 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: think also it helps that the emergence of Kellen Moore 381 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: as their offensive coordinator. They talked about this team um 382 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: entering modern football after not really having one of the 383 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: more imaginative attacks in recent years. The prediction from our 384 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: last show, the one that I was wavering on doing 385 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: instead of the last one I did when I went 386 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: super negative, was that the Eagles and the Cowboys at 387 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: that date, what was it October or so will both 388 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: be six and oh and prepare for a Sunday night 389 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: football showdown in week seven. And I think that you 390 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: cannot sleep on the Cowboys with all the changes they've 391 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: had and and and the better drafting this team has 392 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: put forward in the last couple of years. What I 393 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: like about their line is even when two years ago 394 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: they were celebrated as one of the greatest offensive lines 395 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: of all time, the best position group in the NFL, 396 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: and they didn't rest on their laurels. They went out 397 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: and drafted Connor Williams in the second round. Then they 398 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: went out and drafted Connor McGovern in the third round. Um, 399 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: and they've got Joe Luney, a guy who played sixteen 400 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: games at center last year. Now he's just valuable insurance. UM. 401 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: And for what it's worth, mark um. This is the 402 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: week every every summer where a Sports and Madden drop 403 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: all their ratings and people pay it a surprising amount 404 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: of attention, attention, a lot of annoyed people. The Cowboys 405 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: and Eagles ranked one two in terms of overall team 406 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: strength by Madden. So they're with you. And by the way, 407 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: You're Brownie is just five points away. That was when 408 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: minus the offensive line strength. There's some issues there. Well, 409 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the Madden rating. But when I 410 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: was a kid, the Jets were always crumby typically, but 411 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: whenever they had a decent team, that's always when I 412 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: would get the video game, uh, because then I could 413 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: play with the decent Jets team. If you ever mark 414 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: where to go back and return to your roots as 415 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: a video game football video game player, this is the year. 416 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: What a low did Brown's team to play as a 417 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: video game? How much does all that cost? If I 418 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: were just to go out and splur you have assistant, 419 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: you don't have an Xbox or p S four ne 420 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: presume all right, so that's you know, about three hundred bucks. 421 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: I'd say the game. Maybe you can get some type 422 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: of code or something because you're in the industry. Get 423 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: that game on the arm as the kind of thing. 424 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: I let's go throw on the wife's credit card and 425 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: will pick up the pieces. Don't your sons like use 426 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: your credit card to get three d dollars worth? They 427 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: have attempted that and they were successful, and we we 428 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: returned those funds. Um, I'll throw one out there on 429 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: West on your thinnest list. Um. The packers running backs 430 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: and that that gets as it gets again. Many of 431 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: us mark not you as much, but many don't want 432 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: to see Aaron Rodgers return to glory just because it's 433 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: football is more fun. But there is a lot to 434 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: be nervous about right west about this offense. We've talked 435 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: about whether there's enough around Davante Adam when it terms 436 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: to terms of skill players on the outside uh and 437 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: in the passing game, but the running back situation is 438 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: hardly settled. I think fantasy football players have been arguing 439 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: for Aaron Jones to get more playing time for a while, 440 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: and I've made the same argument. But he he really 441 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: hasn't done himself favors by playing at a bigger weight 442 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: than he should have been playing, and he hasn't been 443 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: in the greatest shape he's at an m c l 444 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: sprains in both of his first two years. The coach 445 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: and you can rip on Mark Mike McCarthy all you want, 446 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: but he knows Aaron Jones strength and weakness is better 447 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: than we do and decided not to play him much 448 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: on passing downs because that's not his strength. On the 449 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: other hand, they're passing specialist Jamal Williams just isn't a 450 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: good runner. He's averaged almost two yards per carry less 451 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: than Aaron Jones, so if he if Jones goes down, 452 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: you're left with a very pedestrian um rushing attack and 453 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: not much depth behind the two of them. I think 454 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: another concern is that when you read about Jamal Williams 455 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: and how he would fit into a Matt Lafleur offense, 456 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: that Matt Lafleur is a zone run scheme type coach 457 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: and Jamal Williams is not a perfect fit for that 458 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: on any level. Your biggest concern on your thinnest list 459 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: is the Giants. And while we've talked endlessly on this 460 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: podcast about the relative worth of Eli Manning, Uh, what 461 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about here is their defense. And it's hard 462 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: to disagree. After you get rid of Olivier Vernon and 463 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: Landon Collins, what's left here West? How are they gonna 464 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: stop anyone? Forget about who's playing quarterback? How are they 465 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna not be giving up twenty eight points a game? Well, 466 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: this is what happens when you rebuild. I mean, I 467 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: guess you could say it's a necessary evil. Some teams 468 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: don't believe that you have to rebuild all the time, 469 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: but the Giants tore it down, and you're hoping that 470 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: the young guys can eventually be as good as Snax 471 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: Harrison and Olivier Vernon and Landon Collins and the guys 472 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: who've been playing at near a pro bowl level for 473 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: a few years. You hope that the young guys eventually 474 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: get to that place. But I would be shocked if 475 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: it's this year that all those young guys started playing well. 476 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Another case for uh Daniel Jones entering the lineup sooner 477 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: rather than later is that eventually gentleman is gonna have 478 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: to put something on the field to convince Giants brass 479 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: that he should be around beyond two thousand nineteen. And 480 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: if the defense and is in a full blown rebuild 481 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: and the old quarterback is obviously not the future, Jones 482 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: has to play the showed management that this guy is 483 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: doing something right, like what I mean? Otherwise, what are 484 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: we staring down the barrel of three and thirteen and 485 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: no hope and I mean and gentlemen created for obvious reasons, 486 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: a bit of a radioactive situation for himself. But it's 487 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: almost like the defensive side of the ball has been 488 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: not noticed or talked about as much because it's all 489 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: about Eli Manning all the time. But then suddenly you're 490 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna put a lot of pressure on a broken down 491 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: Eli Manning or a rookie quarterback to probably score a 492 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: lot of points to win games. West During this exercise, 493 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: when you're you know, going through the rosters and doing 494 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: your process, which on either side of this thinnest, deepest, 495 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: what surprised you, What team surprised you? What unit you 496 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: know what? And some of this doesn't even make the list, 497 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: um just because something There might be some deeper or 498 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: or thinner units than I wrote about, But some of 499 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: it is what what's compelling to write about. So that's 500 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: how you end up making the choices. But I'd say 501 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens, how they are so stark, they have a 502 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: the deep I think the deepest position group in the 503 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: NFL might be their secondary. They are just absolutely loaded 504 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: there number one on your list. But then they lost 505 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: Um Thick, they their pass rushers, They lose Sugs Zadarius Smith, 506 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: um Urban from upfront, and those guys have more sacks, 507 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: hits and hurries than the rest of their defense combined. 508 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: So you're asking a lot of unproven guys to do 509 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: work there. And I really thought about having their wide 510 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: receivers on this list for Thinness too, because they're they're 511 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: only proven guy. Really is Willie Snead, who's a slot receiver? 512 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: Seth Roberts, I'd guess another slot receiver. I just don't 513 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: see the depth there. So you're talking about a team 514 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: that has some very strong strong points and some very 515 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: weak weak points. When you went number seven on the 516 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: thin list Chicago Bears kicker, was that sort of a 517 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: little bit of a tidbit for Dan? Oh? Yeah, I 518 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: gotta keep Dan oriented and just gets it. That's why 519 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: you gotta keep the kicker fans interested. West totally gets it. 520 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: And people shouldn't sleep on how important it is to 521 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: have a solid kicking foundation on you just ask twenty 522 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: million dollar man Robbie Gold how important kicking. But well, Ricky, 523 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: you were a little young when Adam Vinetieri was a hero. 524 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: But in New England, no, he was. He was the best. 525 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: Why it was still kicking almost unbelieved that. You know 526 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: he's still the later. Yeah, but he's you know, not 527 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: my problem. He's regarded as the best. So I don't 528 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: know if you got I did not involve myself in it. 529 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: And now there's talk that Russia is stealing everyone's faces. 530 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: This this face app that everybody went crazy putting. Uh, 531 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: I did your picture though, that was actually very tedious 532 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: four hours on Twitter, but a screenshot of your Instagram 533 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: just to see what total violation like that. Uh, now 534 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm in the system as well as well. But uh, 535 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: kudos to the Colts who did a nice job. And 536 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: they did like a a four screen of like luck whomever, whoever. 537 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: And then the last one there was no face app done. 538 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: It was just him with the white beard. The stunning 539 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: lack of that was a good one, but a stunning 540 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: lack of creativity by all thirty two team Twitter accounts 541 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 1: by doing the exact same social media post with their 542 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: players turning old. What would you have done if you 543 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: were in that, I'd be the one team that said 544 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: we're not going to do what every other everyone else 545 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: is doing. By the way, all in the course of 546 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty minutes, they all dropped the same tweet. 547 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's slightly ponderous. I mean it is, but 548 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean I have issues with that too. Anything else, 549 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: Mark West, anything that jumped out to you and you 550 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: good again. Check this out nfl dot com slash westling. 551 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: The archive is bustling. I don't want to I don't 552 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: want to throw too. I don't get up and go 553 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: read it. But the Patriots being on the thin list, 554 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: and for at this point in the off season, that 555 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver group with your your kind of praying if 556 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: you're a Patriots fan, that Josh Gordon is brought back 557 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: into the mix because there's not a lot going on there. 558 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen Brady carry offenses with the releading 559 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: leading receiver is Jabbar Gaffney or Danny Ammondola or Malcolm 560 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: Mitchell as a playoff hero. That's a lot to ask 561 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: of a thirty nine year old beating father time. It's 562 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot more to ask of a forty two year 563 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: old who showed actual signs of decline last year. Very fair, 564 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: All right there, you gonna check it out. West is back. Yes, 565 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: the the Infinity Stones put him into the big power 566 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: glove explosions. Everyone dies, lives. Do you live or die 567 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: when there's these stones are collected? I mean there's MALTI 568 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not the expert on this. It's your thing. 569 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean, live or die when the bad guy or 570 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: the good guy gets the stones in the power clove. 571 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't watch that they have and they make the decision. 572 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: The bad guy war wiped out, like I believe it 573 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: was like Earth? What about the other planets? Aren't there 574 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: like other stars and stuff involved? Then we're going beyond. 575 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: We're going beyond what I know about at that point. 576 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: But yes, the mail Bag live NFL dot Com Friday Morning. 577 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Check it out. It's the only mail bag that matters. 578 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: And Jay Glazer knows it. He knows Mark. Oh, I 579 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: think he's it's it's on his radar. There's no doubt 580 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: about that. Um. A bunch of questions. You guys are great. Um, 581 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: you always do annoy me listeners, no matter how much 582 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: I try to make it clear that these this this 583 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: prompt I do on Twitter is for my column, the 584 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: mail Bag. And then I get and inevitably fourteen questions 585 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: about which one of us would survive in an island 586 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: or is Mark happy? Or is Erica like you know 587 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: on bumble or whatever? Like it's just you know, I 588 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: it's not always about the podcast. But since we're here, 589 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: I'll go through some of the questions that I I mean, 590 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: what you endured Dan is just uh, you know, remarkable 591 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: to us. I appreciate their interest in our show and 592 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: and and my social media account. Has there ever been 593 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: a mailbag without that? Who would win on a deserted island? Never? 594 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: It's a lue Garrick streak. Well, Wes, it's interesting West. 595 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: I noticed that my mentions like favorite when someone said 596 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: West would would prevent And I really, honestly, you just 597 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: just you know, you caught me on a day where 598 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: I really like waffled on whether to click like on 599 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: this or not. I'm like, no, because I don't want 600 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: to encourage the narrative that that that this is what 601 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: I would be like. We don't like to talk about 602 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: these things. But I clicked like just because it was 603 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: somebody trying to connect with our show. And I was like, 604 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: all right, now you threw a bone. Yeah, I saw it. 605 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: And of course what I'm going to see is Wes 606 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: is agreeing with this person. And perhaps you do believe 607 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: that you would survive, does it? I don't think it's 608 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever been a part of me, 609 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: even before cancer, to be a divide and conquered person. 610 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: That's what that that I don't play politics enough to 611 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, Like, I'm not Richard Hatch. It's not happening. Oh, 612 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: I know I would not be the one to like 613 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: post cancer like strength, strength for sure. Did you see 614 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: me trying to run around the basis last to division champions? Baby? 615 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: We Yeah, we came to it. We knocked off a 616 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: team that was in first place all year, and now 617 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: we have the best team that the Shield has ever had. 618 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: Going into is a juggernaut. We go into the ship. 619 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: What some people we heard through a source that some 620 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: members of the opposing team believe that the first basement 621 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: of the Shield number twenty three, Dan Hansas, was taking 622 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: the game too seriously in what manner were you? I mean, oh, 623 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: is that because you argue with the umpire? You literally 624 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: were like, who can say it better? Rough me? Are 625 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: you blue probab? It was it was a it was 626 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: a blown call by the umpire. Let him know about it, 627 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: And I'm never gonna apologize for being competitive. Yeah, but 628 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: you were like, I'm right so still, but it was 629 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: like it was it was like it went on for 630 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: a little while and then Dan was like, bro, I'm 631 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: right on top of it. Who can see better? Me 632 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: or you, and the ref was like your two seconds 633 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: from being out of here. The best part was the 634 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: best part was and I'm never that guy, but I 635 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: was very frustrated that moment of the game. Um, I said, 636 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: that's bad, that's bad, and he goes, you're bad. Yeah, 637 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: all right, we're mixing it up. Um. Anyway, we're tendant 638 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: to we won the division. One more win for glory. Well, 639 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: we're streaking. As you pointed out last night, we have 640 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: played well now. They're the second and third place teams 641 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: in the league in the last few weeks and we 642 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: beat them by a combined thirty seven to nine. Yeah, 643 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: we've been rolling through some good teams. You don't want 644 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: to look past anyone, especially in the playoffs. But um, 645 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: this has like an eight five Bears feel to it. 646 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: There was a time with a previous team where I 647 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: thought you had an eighty nine Niners five, but maybe 648 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: we didn't even realize how good you could be. You're 649 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: peaking now. This feels eighty five Niners thirteen Seahawks. Well, 650 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: our girls have never girls are carrying the guys now 651 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: sometimes and that has not happened off And I didn't 652 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: get mad at you when you had that embarrassing base. Yeah, 653 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: I really did screw up last night. I was just 654 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: standing on first and I like hit a really nice 655 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: like a slammer right down past the third basement, and 656 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: so like ran it out. It was so good, and 657 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: I was like yes, And then something happened where the 658 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: next person hit the ball and I like just like 659 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: stood there, like I didn't move. I don't know what happened. 660 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: I was like often thought, but I was paying attention. 661 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: I don't know you were like just daydreaming about your hit. 662 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: The pre I hit a slammer. Understand the total slammer? UM? 663 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: Anyway to use that during next week's hit a slammer? Uh? 664 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: In the mailbag, I I opened mail bag with a 665 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: question I do get every year around this time, but 666 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: I always answer it because to me, there's no better 667 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: way to end an NFL season, UM, besides the Jets 668 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: championship UH than a team winning a Super Bowl for 669 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: the first time. And the way history has it, it's 670 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: been happening now going back to the beginning of this century, 671 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: like every three to four years a team is winning 672 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl for the first time. So you go 673 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: back to UH, of course you have the Pats in 674 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: OH one. Uh, and then you have the Bucks in 675 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: O two than the Colts and OH six, the Saints 676 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: in O nine, the Seahawks and thirteen the Eagles and seventeen. Okay, 677 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: all right, Ravens fans, I remember you you were in 678 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: two thousand two. But anyway, so that tells us that 679 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen again. Maybe not this year, but soon. 680 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: So there are twelve teams that have never won the 681 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I put them in order of Super Bowl 682 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: win probability this year. Tell if you have any disagreement. Cardinals, Bills, Lions, Bengals, Titans, Panthers, Browns, 683 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: and now the top five. It's pretty good list. There's 684 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: some real contenders Jags, Falcons, Texans, Vikings, Chargers, and I 685 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: think those top three teams are actual legit title contenders. 686 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: I think the Falcons and Jaguars, if a couple of 687 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: things to go the right way, are absolute title contenders. 688 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: And even the Browns, with all the talent they have, 689 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: if they get on a crazy run, you never know. 690 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: I think that Titans, Panthers, and Browns have better rosters 691 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: than the Jaguars. In Texans, Yeah, the Jaguars are the 692 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: ones that stood out to me too. I I know 693 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: that your stance on the Titans in general is not favorable, 694 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: but I might put them ahead of the Titans. On 695 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: the Panthers, depending on quarterback place you could flip flopped him. 696 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: I bet I think they're kind of in the same window. 697 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: I think only Cincinnati, Detroit, Buffalo, and Arizona are kind 698 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: of completely out of the conversation, at least winning this year. 699 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: I am just like, I'm not convinced that the Nick 700 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: Foles experience as much as I like the person is 701 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: going to translate. I don't like doubting him. I just 702 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. I don't like anything 703 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: about their offense really, Like what what excites you other 704 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: than if you believe that Nick Foles is going to 705 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: really turn that offense? Other than the quarterback, what excites 706 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: you about about the Vikings of two? They're kind of 707 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: after all the hype going to last year, you almost 708 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: hear nothing about them right now, which I think is 709 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: a good thing. And it's good for Kirk Cousins. Uh, 710 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: this is still I think a loaded team, and if 711 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: Cousins can just play at a high level, why am 712 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: I doing too much hand stuff. No, Kirk Cousins just 713 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: is just going to hand off the ball every time. Well, 714 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: one of the biggest throws he's not gone on this year. 715 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: We don't talk about assistant coaches enough except Mark he does. 716 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: But I thought Kubiak was one of the biggest editions 717 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: of any coaching them all year. And I really like 718 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: the Vikings issue. I mean, that line needs to be better. 719 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: Chargers everybody agrees the most likely team to break the 720 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl jinks of this group it doesn't agree would 721 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: put them in the in the driver's seat. I'd agree 722 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: with that. I mean, it's, if anything, they've not lived 723 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: up to their talent. They find a way to crumble 724 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: in January. I also think we've been talking about their 725 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: offense for the last few years and their defense is 726 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: probably better than their offense right now. Um here's one 727 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: from Justin Brill. He asks, if you could choose any 728 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: team from any year to be on Hard Knocks, which 729 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: team would you choose? I'll tell you who. I went with, 730 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: The eight five Bears, all time great team of course, 731 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: eighteen and one arguably the best defense ever. He had 732 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: a ton of interesting personalities. McMahon, the fridge Singletary, Buddy Ryan, 733 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: Walter Payton, and then you have Peaked Ditka And I 734 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: think the cheat code for Hard Knocks is if you 735 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: can get any like an engaging, interesting, funny um personality 736 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: a head coach, the series is gonna fly. And Ditta 737 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: in nine was one of the more famous sports figures 738 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: in the country. And UH with his mix of you know, 739 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: very confident man, a huge ego, a big star, I 740 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: feel like that would have been a great like centerpiece 741 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: of the show to have. I like that a lot. 742 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: I The one the name that came to me was 743 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: the Oilers, the ninety three Oilers, the team where Buddy 744 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: Ryan and Kelvin Gilbride had a punch out situation. The 745 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 1: only reason though I'd go with maybe even an earlier 746 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: Oilers team is because you lose Jerry Glanville because the 747 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: head coach was Jack Party. I would love to see 748 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: Jerry Glanville as much as I despised him because as 749 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: a young Browns fan, the Oilers who were always an 750 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: annoying UH team to deal with, but I would love 751 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: to see them on Hard Knocks. They had a lot 752 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: of characters too. You would have warn Moo in the 753 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: whole crew, go love you blue oilers, get some bum 754 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: Phillips action in there. Um, I would. I would look 755 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: for the seventies as a sweet spot because the NFL 756 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: hasn't gone so overly corporate. The money is not as 757 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: much of a factor. It's more personalities involved, as more 758 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: people being themselves, less political correctness, and I think you'd 759 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: have a lot more interesting stories. I would choose, like 760 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: the John Madden era Raiders when they're just full of like, oh, 761 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: Al Davis would be all I want Al Davis coverage 762 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: that we do. I mean, we get Mark Davis this year? 763 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: Is that an interest in his own right? Um? A 764 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: gentleman from Los Angeles named that's his name. Mark Sessler 765 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: asks Will Brown's Jets Week two national television and our 766 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: and during friendship you know, no, it won't end it, 767 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: but it will get dicey if they both become contenders legitimately. 768 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean about I think the one time that we 769 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: really um hit on this topic in our studio it 770 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: went very poorly explosive it is it is an explosive topic. 771 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be a great problem market. I 772 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: think he'll be fine if Cleveland we're to win I'm 773 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: much more concerned about um if it doesn't go well 774 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: what it was going to happen to Dan. I mean 775 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 1: I I could throw it the other way. I believe 776 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: that you would potentially not do well. If I were 777 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: crowing about the Jets beating the Browns in the f 778 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: C title game. I don't think I would do well 779 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: at all. I'd be probably steaming about it at I 780 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: know I want to do well with it. I mean, 781 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: I believe maybe you should admit to the same though. 782 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: I I think that at least half the problem is me, 783 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: So that's too much now, It's it's probably a sixty 784 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: five issue on my I mean, I think I can 785 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: go back and forth. I can easily become the sixty. 786 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 1: I just want one of those teams to be good 787 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 1: for the first time in our podcast. The problem isn't 788 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: need never hand in hand situation. They almost need to 789 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: be duplicates of each other in terms of their success. 790 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: If one of them were to totally take a dirt nap, 791 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: that then we're in, We're in. We're in bad territory. 792 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: But it wouldn't that at least keep them off each 793 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: other's radar. With steaks being high and no, because if 794 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: it's if Cleveland went three and thirteen and became one 795 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: of these like worst teams money can buy Bobby Manilla 796 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: Mets type situation, it's gonna be awful. I would run. 797 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: I'd rather be on a deserted island and not to 798 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: talk about it three times, four times, twenty five times 799 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: a week. Negative. Uh, let's see, let's see a couple 800 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: more and then we'll get out of here. Uh. Area 801 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: fifty one question. We hit area fifty one pretty hard today. UM. 802 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I'm talking about. This guy 803 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: in missour who of the four is most likely not 804 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 1: to help someone in need? I believe we all help 805 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: someone in need. I don't think there's a standout candidate 806 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: answer to that one. I think we're all unbalanced, decent people. 807 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't know about Ricky. Ricky might run the other way. Well, 808 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: she wasn't. I mean, if you want to expand it 809 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: to five, I think she's it's You've got a candidate 810 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: right there. Would you help somebody in need? Are you 811 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: kidding me? Of course not? Uh? Dumpster gets lit on fire. Uh. 812 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: This from Doc west is for you. Since Chris Westling 813 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,479 Speaker 1: is a recovering Bengals fan. What what miraculous event would 814 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: have to occur to get him to join Bill's mafia. 815 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a team that maybe you could 816 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 1: fall in love with Wes. I like their fan base 817 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: quite a bit. Um, what about their quarterback? You like him? 818 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: I don't know yet. He I like watching him because 819 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's gonna do, and he's pretty 820 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: fun to see run around. He's a dynamic athlete. But no, 821 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: I I just don't see like I'm one of those 822 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: people if you're a fan, that has to happen organically 823 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: as you're growing up, as you're a child, And I 824 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: don't think anyone would ever replace like the late seventies 825 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: and eighties Bengals for me Mark Um Benedict Morton asks 826 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: how does Mark's family cope with him being vegetarian? Are 827 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: they also off meat? If yes, have your kids ever 828 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: tried it and liked disliked it? Mark? They eat um anything. 829 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they they have a very My kids are 830 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: not I don't restrict them in any way with what 831 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: they eat, and quite appalled by their diet on some levels. 832 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 1: So it's like I'm not, you know, lording my waves 833 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: over anyone. Uh, Tyler asks, do you guys still talk 834 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: to k Rich? Also, when is spice Rack coming back? No? 835 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: And uh soon enough maybe draft time. I'll hear from 836 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: k Rich every once in a while. She sent me 837 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 1: some some very positive messages when I was going through cancer. 838 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: She's been she's been nice. Like a definitive no makes 839 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: it sound like we've decisively shut her out of that. 840 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: We're not interacting. We had a former producer, Erica. I 841 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: was gonna ask she's in Philadelphia now, Yes, very success, 842 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: seems to be doing well. Um, all right, that's about it. 843 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: What were the question from that person? I don't know 844 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: the other question behind the k Rich question? There were 845 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: two questions. The meat thing. Have your kids ever tried 846 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: not eating meat? That wasn't the same tweet spice Rack. 847 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: Spice Rack, Oh, spice Rack, When is he gonna be 848 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: on the show again? Didn't we try to have him 849 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: on and just didn't work out? Time? He wise timing, 850 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: He got caught up with something with work and it 851 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: was around the draft. So yeah, he he kind of 852 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: missed his window as annual window. But it doesn't change 853 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: anything or feelings about spice Rack. We love spicy Yeah, exactly. Um, 854 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: all right, that's it. Summer breaks over back on Monday. Yes, 855 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: me and a Times of ESPN will join us on Wednesday. 856 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: We also, it appears to be on track to happen 857 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,919 Speaker 1: a visit to a NFL camp coming up that we'll 858 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 1: do a show from said headquarters. We look forward to 859 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 1: that and all the other stuff that you have come 860 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: to expect from the Around the NFL podcast. As we 861 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: head toward our seventh season together on the show, how 862 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: about that We started in the July of two thou 863 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: and here we are. I didn't think we'd get to 864 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 1: seven episodes and and Ricky, um, is that true? Yeah? 865 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: I worried. I worried at the beginning that would be terrible. 866 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean I thought my voice coming from Tybee was like, 867 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna want to listen to this idiot? Um, Ricky Uh. 868 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 1: I've asked you also to track when or one thousandth 869 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: episode happens. That's coming up. It's coming up, So we 870 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: wanna celebrate that in some way, maybe with a live show. 871 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: Who knows. We're trying to do some different things this year, 872 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: maybe our Sunday night show. We might have some fun 873 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 1: A new wrinkle to that as well. So behind the scenes, 874 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: you know we're cranking Mark especial. Oh. I mean, I 875 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: have been about as lazy as can be the last 876 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But back now. Flip the switch, baby, 877 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: all right, let's go do His dad had the signing 878 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: off for Quiet Storm. The mailman, Ricky Hollywood at the table. 879 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 1: We're back in the studio next week. Three times here 880 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,760 Speaker 1: it comes until Monday,