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Speaker 1: their opportunities today they fall to the Washington Commanders twenty

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Speaker 1: seven to twenty two. John Schmelt joined by Jonathan Casius

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Speaker 1: and Bob Popa here on Giants Extra Point and jac

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Speaker 1: I want to start with you here because this, to

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Speaker 1: me is a defensive game, and that's where most of

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Speaker 1: the deficiencies occurred for the New York Football Giants. This

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Speaker 1: was a limited possession game. Each team only had eight

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Speaker 1: possessions in this game. The Commanders scored on five of them.

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Speaker 1: Three of them were touchdowns. That does not include the

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Speaker 1: kneel down at dead of the game, which would have

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Speaker 1: been another score. So the Giants just stopped the Commanders

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Speaker 1: on two drives. This game just two punts with the

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Speaker 1: command there's no takeaways.

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Speaker 2: The opening drive of the game and the opening drive

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Speaker 2: their first possession of the first half and the first

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Speaker 1: Both are three and outs. Three hard to win a

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Speaker 1: game when that's the case.

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Speaker 3: On defense, yeah, absolutely, you know, the Giants started hot

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Speaker 3: a way to put together drives. Sometimes they had big plays,

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Speaker 3: sometimes they didn't have big plays. Sometimes they converted on

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Speaker 3: third down, sometimes they didn't. They did it on fourth down.

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Speaker 3: They figured out a way to extend every single drive

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Speaker 3: that they had, besides the two that we were talking about,

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Speaker 3: even the last drive where the Giants had a chance

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Speaker 3: if they stopped them and made him kick a field goal,

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Speaker 3: they still had a chance to be in the game.

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Speaker 3: And they couldn't do that. And they were able to

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Speaker 3: near the ball with them holding the ball instead of

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Speaker 3: the Giants failing to do so on the offense, but

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Speaker 3: they couldn't do it on defense.

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Speaker 1: And offensively, Bob, the Giants moved the ball. They had

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Speaker 1: five drives that went fifty five or more yards in

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Speaker 1: this game. And I'm going to point to a possession

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Speaker 1: early in the game. I don't People like to focus

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Speaker 1: on tight stuff that happens at the end, but every

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Speaker 1: possession counts. That one turnover that made them minus one

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Speaker 1: of the turn overratio in this game, took away one

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Speaker 1: of their eight possessions. They were in Washington Territory last scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: players on Washington's twenty nine yard line. They get no

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Speaker 1: points out of that. That in the end, one possession

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Speaker 1: where the baby could just going a touchdown could be

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Speaker 2: Well between that and having a touchdown taken off the board,

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Speaker 2: and we saw that happen with the Theo Johnson pass

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Speaker 2: interference earlier this year. They're not good enough to overcome

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Speaker 2: those kind of things. You can't have a well executed

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Speaker 2: have a touchdown taken off the board for an offensive penalty. Now, listen,

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Speaker 2: that's back home. You're gonna watch every game today. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna watch the game tonight, You're gonna watch the game

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. These little rub routes that are run on

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Speaker 2: third and shorts and you know the goal line. Slayton

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Speaker 2: didn't use his hands. He was trying to get to

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Speaker 2: where he wanted to go. Sure, he was trying to

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Speaker 2: but he didn't block him or use his hand. That

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Speaker 1: He almost forced the commander to initiate contact with him.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're real picky and choose you with that one.

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Speaker 3: I've seen it called and not called literally in the

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Speaker 3: same exact type of situation where I thought Slayton did

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Speaker 3: a good job because it's called a rub route, that's

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Speaker 1: Of course, well, I said the bottom had a.

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Speaker 3: Good job in executing what they had him doing. But

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Speaker 3: sometimes they called that. Sometimes they don't call that.

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Speaker 1: I figure who Dallas was playing. But there was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's if yours his hands are up

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Speaker 2: start the third, you can't allow a third and eighteen,

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Speaker 2: And you cannot if you're Deontay Banks, bite on a

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Speaker 1: Let the guy catch the ball in front of you.

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Speaker 1: Who cares it's half over? You literally cannot catch the

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Speaker 1: have no timeouts left. There was eleven seconds at the

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Speaker 4: Over and up until that third and eighteen?

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Speaker 5: What do you?

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Speaker 1: Why are you biting on the fake?

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Speaker 3: The Commanders were over on third down. They had to

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Speaker 3: convert on fourth down that drive. I'm not mistaken. They

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Speaker 3: didn't convert a third down until that third and eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 2: All their conversions were fourth downs to that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the Giants they did what they were supposed

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Speaker 3: third and long when you get off the field. But

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Speaker 3: we've seen it time and time again in the Bengals game.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a third and seventeen like that,

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Speaker 3: out how when they get themselves in a situation that's

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Speaker 3: whatever the case, the where the case is, whatever.

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Speaker 4: Coverage that you have, it's advantageous.

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Speaker 3: For the defense, and they haven't figured out a way

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Speaker 1: New York Giants fall to the Commanders twenty seven to

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Speaker 1: And the Giants were waiting Brian Table downstairs at the podium,

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Speaker 1: and guys, I just want to go back to the

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Speaker 1: The problem is that on those drives where they did

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Speaker 1: move the ball up and down the field, they only

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Speaker 1: come away with those seven points. We talked about the

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Speaker 1: fumble on that screen pass, and that wasn't and that fault,

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Speaker 1: of course not. He went back to pass, turned around

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Speaker 3: It was still twenty one to seven on at that point,

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Speaker 3: and they allowed three touchdowns in a row on defense

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Speaker 1: Well, and that was the problem with the defense in

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Speaker 1: the first half, right, the Giants only got seven points

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Speaker 1: out of their Out of their long drives, they had

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Speaker 1: they scored just seven. They had two punts in the

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Speaker 1: first half. Commanders just have one put on their first

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Speaker 1: drive to Bob's point, three consecutive touchdowns, one on the

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Speaker 1: defensive pass in the feerance penalty, which was an obvious

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Speaker 1: two teams played. Noah Brown is not a speed star.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason for Noah Brown to beating deep on

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Speaker 1: ferance penally, that's another big playing Again we've been talking

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Speaker 2: Like a tight end. He kind of plays like a

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Speaker 2: the half, because again, there was eleven seconds ago and

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Speaker 2: Washington used their last time out with the ball at

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Speaker 2: it are very slim. Because normally teams says twelve seconds.

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Speaker 2: There's only eleven seconds. They probably come away with no points.

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Speaker 2: But when the Giants aren't built to come back from

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out why we keep going for

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Speaker 3: the analytics We.

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Speaker 1: Want me to explain the analytics thing.

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Speaker 3: I can do it, because I just Bob, you've been

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Speaker 3: covering football for a long time. I just for me,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't make any sense that, Okay, you don't get it,

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Speaker 2: They're all for six now this year for the year.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, I just don't understand the math.

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Speaker 3: The last week we saw happen the worst play I

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Speaker 3: think Dave Balls ever ran in his Giants career for sure,

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Speaker 3: that that two point con version of played from last week,

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Speaker 3: and then they do it today and they failed to

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Speaker 3: execute today. I just don't understand why kicking an extra point,

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Speaker 3: not a field goal, an extra point is just not

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Speaker 2: So what's your analytics all right argument to it?

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Speaker 1: I will give you what the what the mathematical argument is. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if let's say you score two touchdowns, you kick two

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Speaker 1: fifty chance of winning the game. Right you get to overtime,

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Speaker 1: Let's say you get a fifty fifty shot, all right,

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Speaker 1: you go for two. All right, you make the first one.

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Speaker 1: the las few years, about a fifty to fifty play.

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Speaker 1: make it, you're gonna win the game outright half the time. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So here's my argument that has anything to do and listen,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, has shaken back and forth. I should talk it.

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Speaker 2: I respect analytics because people that say analytics and they

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Speaker 2: Like you gotta also look at how your team is.

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Speaker 1: Well, it all depends on your chance. What's your confidence

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Speaker 1: All right back here on Giants Extra point Giants lose

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Speaker 8: All right, Jeff, game competitive game plays to get the

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Speaker 4: Place for they third down, they had the bomb passes

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Speaker 7: Is it.

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Speaker 4: Is it just blown coverage? What what was it?

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Speaker 9: From was unusual.

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Speaker 4: You guys ran very well.

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Speaker 5: Yell.

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Speaker 8: You know the times you seem very hesitant to have.

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Speaker 8: The little productive running the ball about seven yards of carry.

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Speaker 9: We threw two screens.

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Speaker 8: about though it was only seven. You know you were

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Speaker 9: I think we punted you may slight.

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Speaker 10: Any regret about calling the pass play then when you're

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Speaker 8: I mean, we had a huge play that they they

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Speaker 9: That is just taking a ten point uh seven point

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Speaker 12: At what point does you know, I mean, you guys

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Speaker 9: What point does that kind of take over from that?

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Speaker 8: I felt good about felt good about what we had,

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Speaker 8: and you know, they did a good job of stopping it.

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Speaker 4: You had the top three time mounts there.

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Speaker 9: Why not use the time of.

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Speaker 4: For them the front side of two in.

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Speaker 8: The morning forty two seconds, so they had to snap

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Speaker 2: When you don't really throw the ball down the field

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Speaker 9: I know you were productive, but it only produces seven points, right.

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Speaker 13: The thinking is that he shows a lot of confidence

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Speaker 8: Sorts in your quarterback.

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Speaker 7: They can make big plays down the field in.

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Speaker 8: scrimmage and has nothing to do with Donal's throwing and

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Speaker 8: not throwing it. Why don't you think the past rock

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Speaker 8: I don't think we had brill sacks right, Yeah, branionda

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Speaker 4: Uh so not good enough? What happened to Greg Joseph?

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Speaker 14: Or Yeah, it's a lot of kickers that.

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Speaker 13: Have been injured in practice lately.

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Speaker 7: Is there anything that you can.

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Speaker 1: Do about that that you see that that that keeps happening?

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Speaker 4: No anything else? All right?

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Speaker 14: Daniel wins Friday Robinson's roll.

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Speaker 1: That's Brian Dable at the podium that was brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Hackensack and Briady in health, keep getting better

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Speaker 1: and guys. Brian Dable talked about his explanation on going

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Speaker 2: Bob your thoughts, Well, I guess they wanted it under

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the reason you don't call one is

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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell live and they did not feel good.

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Speaker 1: Replay JC could you tell, being a former defender, what

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Speaker 2: And Carl was saying they were in some kind of zone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the combination of mental errors and tackles

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Speaker 1: You know, jac Bob mentioned you about the tackling, how

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Speaker 1: Commanders did not have to put the ball in Jaden

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Speaker 2: They had one hundred and forty nine yards not rush

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Speaker 3: When it comes down to the Giants. They look good

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Speaker 3: when stuff like that happens, just like a bad play.

445
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Speaker 3: And I just feel like the Giants just don't capitalize

446
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Speaker 3: on what they're doing. You get into a third and eighteen,

447
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Speaker 3: that's good. That's a good thing that you do. And

448
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Speaker 3: then you don't get off the field. You fail, and

449
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Speaker 3: then you score a touchdown, it's a good thing. Then

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Speaker 3: you don't convert the two boing version. It's almost like

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Speaker 3: they take a step forward and two steps back or

452
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Speaker 3: two steps forward one step back. They can't figure out

453
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Speaker 3: how to just put it together for four quarters. They

454
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Speaker 3: look good at times. Daniel Jones threw some good passes today, right, I.

455
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Speaker 2: Mean there's twenty of twenty six for one seventy four.

456
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Speaker 4: You look good on the THEO Johnson today.

457
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Speaker 2: Two legitimate drops by THEO Johnson.

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Speaker 4: Yeap, for sure.

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Speaker 3: It just whenever they decide to look good, which they

460
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Speaker 3: at times did today, they didn't look good enough when

461
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Speaker 3: they needed to. At the end. They put the basically

462
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Speaker 3: the ball into the defense's hands. The defense that's been

463
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Speaker 3: you know, the scape the excuse me. The the one

464
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Speaker 3: positive thing that you can take from the definitely the

465
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Speaker 3: two wins. They have fifteen sacks and the two wins. Right,

466
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Speaker 3: they put it in defensive hands and they failed to

467
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Speaker 3: get them off the field at the end of the game.

468
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Speaker 3: And it comes down to those last couple of plays,

469
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Speaker 3: the ebb and foal of the game. It comes down

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Speaker 3: to the end, especially in a close game like this.

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Speaker 2: Correct, I mean, because let's let's just play the hypothetical game.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say the Giants don't go for two and

473
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Speaker 2: they kick two extra points. You're down by three, and

474
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Speaker 2: you needed to stop.

475
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Speaker 4: Still have to get a stink.

476
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Speaker 2: Hat a stop, right, It doesn't matter whether they aid

477
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Speaker 2: the two points and they failed on the two points,

478
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter at this point because when they needed

479
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Speaker 2: to get a stop in this game, they never got

480
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Speaker 2: a stop. Like you could look at the third down conversion,

481
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Speaker 2: and you know, Washington came into the game number two

482
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Speaker 2: in the NFL or whatever, they were like forty six percent,

483
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Speaker 2: So you held them to five of twelve, right, that's

484
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Speaker 2: under fifty percent. But they hit the ones that mattered.

485
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Speaker 2: They hit big plays on the ones that mattered. The

486
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 2: third and eighteen again to me, was the game. And

487
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Speaker 2: then the third and eight like you just can't give

488
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Speaker 2: those up.

489
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Speaker 1: And a misstackle on that third and eighteen which helped

490
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Speaker 1: them convert it. Overall, Jen and Dale just had to

491
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Speaker 1: throw the ball twenty two times in this game. They

492
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Speaker 1: ran it thirty eight times. You know, they were the

493
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Speaker 1: second highest run frequency team in the league heading into

494
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Speaker 1: this week. The Commanders and they held the form and

495
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Speaker 1: the Giants couldn't turn them one demnia and again going

496
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Speaker 1: down twenty one to seven. I thought, really, when we

497
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Speaker 1: talked about this at halftime, jac took the Giants out

498
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Speaker 1: of how they wanted to play this game in the

499
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Speaker 1: second half, where you couldn't just keep pounding it and

500
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Speaker 1: pounding it and pounding it because a your defense couldn't

501
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Speaker 1: get a stop, so you had to score a little

502
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Speaker 1: bit quicker to try to maximize your possessions.

503
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Speaker 3: The Commanders have a different approach to how they play

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Speaker 3: the Giants.

505
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Speaker 4: Now.

506
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Speaker 3: They're more willing to go for it on fourth down.

507
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Speaker 3: They're more willing to run the balls that have passed

508
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Speaker 3: the ball on certain situations. They don't have, I don't

509
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Speaker 3: think the fear or the respect for offense or defensively,

510
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Speaker 3: because they understand what they're doing on offense, they understand

511
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Speaker 3: what they're doing on defense, and they come in here

512
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Speaker 3: with a lot of fourth down conversions. They didn't convert

513
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Speaker 3: a lot of third downs early in the game because

514
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Speaker 3: they understood that if we give the ball back to

515
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Speaker 3: this team. This team hasn't really done anything offensively at

516
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Speaker 3: home the entire season, so what's gonna change today? And

517
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Speaker 3: I just think that approach helped them extend a lot

518
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Speaker 3: of drives that probably would have kicked either a field

519
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Speaker 3: goal or a punt, but they went for it because

520
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Speaker 3: they don't have the respect that they probably had in

521
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Speaker 3: the past, especially because Dame Jones has a winning record

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Speaker 3: against the Commanders.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 2: The other thing too is on third downs, where they

525
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Speaker 2: stopped them on a third and eight, they gave up seven,

526
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Speaker 2: which enabled Washington to have a fourth and one.

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Speaker 1: He's four five, there's all fourth and one yep.

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Speaker 2: So that now you allowed them defensively to get into

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Speaker 2: a position where they're gonna go for it, especially in

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Speaker 2: plus territory.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. Tonight. Statistics are brought to you

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Speaker 1: by the Archdiocese of New York. Learn more at Inner

533
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Speaker 1: City NYC. For US, we have come through a lot

534
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Speaker 1: of these, but I'll give you the summary here. For

535
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Speaker 1: the Giants. Daniel Jones twenty of twenty six FO one

536
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four yards, two touchdowns, first two passing

537
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Speaker 1: touchdowns at home this year for DJ no interception, one

538
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Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen quarterback rating. Tyrone Tracy sixteen carries sixty

539
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: six yards over four yards of pop, Devin Singletary seven

540
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Speaker 1: for thirty three, Daniel Jones seven for fifty four, and

541
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Speaker 1: Darius Slayton the little inside pitch run little That was

542
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Speaker 1: a nice little play design inside the twenty yard line

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Speaker 1: from Brian Dable. He got eleven League neighbors led the

544
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Speaker 1: way with nine catches for fifty nine yards. Theo Johnson

545
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Speaker 1: three catches fifty one yards, including that thirty five yard

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Speaker 1: touchdown catchdown the scene. He did have a couple of

547
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Speaker 1: those passes he had a chance to come up with,

548
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Speaker 1: then he failed. Darius Slayton three catches forty nine yards,

549
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Speaker 1: three catches one that Robinson won a piece for Tyrone

550
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: Tracy and Chris Manherts who had that one yard receiving

551
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Speaker 1: touchdown on that play action pass. For the Commanders, Jayden

552
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Speaker 1: Daniels fifteen to twenty two two hundred nine yards, two touchdowns,

553
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Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez eleven carries fifty two yards, Austin Ekeler eleven

554
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Speaker 1: carries forty two yards, Jeremy mcnicholls eight carries twenty yards

555
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Speaker 1: Jane and Daniels carried it eight yard eight times for

556
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Speaker 1: thirty five yards. Receiving with the command theer's Noah Brown

557
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Speaker 1: five catches sixty yards, including a thirty one yarder. Austin

558
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Speaker 1: Eckler three catches forty one yards. He had that big

559
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Speaker 1: catch on the final drive. Al made his the Kais

560
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Speaker 1: two catches forty eight yards, two catches for Terry mclaurren,

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Speaker 1: both of them for touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Just think about that, you held Terry McLaurin are two

563
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Speaker 2: catches today and you.

564
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Speaker 1: Lost, and both are pretty important too.

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Speaker 2: Both of them were touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Dommy Brown one catch twenty four yards. Benson Nott had

567
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Speaker 1: to catch zach Ertz with a catch as well. Team

568
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Speaker 1: stat wise, wer you guys kind of mentioned this already.

569
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Speaker 1: Commanders five of twelve on third down, two of two

570
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Speaker 1: on fourth down, Giants six of eleven on third down,

571
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Speaker 1: two of two on fourth down. Commanders outgained the Giants

572
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Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty eight yards to three hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty six in this game. The big difference was the

574
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Speaker 1: one turnover the Giants had, the fumble by Daniel Jones

575
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Speaker 1: when he got whacked on the outside rush. When Hubbard

576
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Speaker 1: failed to block the pass rusher there he fumbled the ball.

577
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Speaker 1: Commander's got the wall backs for touchdown, so Dante Foller

578
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Speaker 1: then on that pass rush so and.

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Speaker 2: The touchdown, taking off the board. Again, this team is

580
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Speaker 2: not good enough to recover from stuff.

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Speaker 1: And Giants, by the way, we didn't mention this, actually

582
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Speaker 1: caught a break on that that should have been a

583
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Speaker 1: touchdown for the Commanders. On the sack fumble, the officials

584
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Speaker 1: blew the play dead for absolutely no reason. That would

585
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Speaker 1: have been returned for a touchdown if they didn't blow

586
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Speaker 1: the play dead before the recovery. So the Giants did

587
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Speaker 1: catch a break on that. Commander's three of six in

588
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Speaker 1: the red zone the Giants two of three on the game. Defensively,

589
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Speaker 1: the Giants pass rush did not get after it as

590
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Speaker 1: much as they should. No sacks, just three two quarterback

591
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Speaker 1: hits in this game, pardon me. Three tackles for loss,

592
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Speaker 1: four quarterback hits and two sacks for the Washington Commanders

593
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Speaker 1: in this game. Mike McFadden lean the way with eleven tackles,

594
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Speaker 1: Bobby o'caake had nine, twelve tackles for Jeremy Shin and

595
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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner had seven tackles for the commanders. Jac what

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Speaker 1: else kind of jumped out at you about this one,

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Speaker 1: as we always Daniel Jones at the podium. All right,

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Speaker 1: now we have Daniel Jones at the podium. So let's pause.

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Speaker 1: That are later interviews in the locker room are brought

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Speaker 1: to you by MetLife, the official insurance company of the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants. Let's join Daniel Jones on the podium downstairs.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, he had the word so you just did

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Speaker 12: this whole staff thing that was presented by one of

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Speaker 12: our sponsors.

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Speaker 2: They had the greatest.

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Speaker 1: Waiting for Daniel Jones. We will have that in a

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Speaker 1: second from downstairs.

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Speaker 2: So he had the most greatest there's no reporters as

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Speaker 2: far as DJed just leave, but.

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Speaker 1: He had the greatest you pipe us down there for him.

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Speaker 2: He had the greatest, most bizarre He had the greatest,

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Speaker 2: most bizarre halftime stats in the history of the world.

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Speaker 1: Look here's Daniel.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, just a zone replay there could call down there

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Speaker 15: and just try to do what you can to get

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Speaker 15: in the end zone.

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Speaker 13: In those situations, what do you.

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Speaker 9: Hope to improve before the next game.

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Speaker 15: Well, I mean, I think obviously the turnover was critical,

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Speaker 15: so look to see where we can do a better

621
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Speaker 15: job there. And you know, I think I thought we

622
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Speaker 15: moved the ball well, ran the ball well. Our action

623
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Speaker 15: game and some of that stuff in the second half

624
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Speaker 15: was productive. You know, obviously a couple three and outs,

625
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Speaker 15: So look to see where we can improve those situations.

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Speaker 13: Just overall, have to be have to be better.

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Speaker 16: What do you score on that running touchdown? Let's go

628
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Speaker 16: to your head as expectable.

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Speaker 13: Just excited to score.

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Speaker 15: Big point in the game where we needed a touchdown

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Speaker 15: and yeah, just excited to get in.

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Speaker 16: How frustrating is that to have another another loss, just

633
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Speaker 16: can't close it out.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, very frustrating, I think. Yeah, tough, tough position. We

635
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Speaker 15: got to find a way to make some more plays

636
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Speaker 15: and win these games. Uh so, yeah, very frustrating.

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Speaker 17: I'm sorry if this was asked for. Were you surprised

638
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 17: by the the run back the run pass balance in

639
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 17: the first half. You guys were running the ball well

640
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 17: but partly passing at all?

641
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Speaker 2: Is that?

642
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Speaker 4: What did you think about that mix of play?

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Speaker 15: I knew we wanted to run the ball in the

644
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Speaker 15: you know, in this game.

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Speaker 13: That was part of the game plan.

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Speaker 15: You know, I think the way it played out you know,

647
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Speaker 15: maybe didn't expect it to run it that much, but

648
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 15: we were running it really well and effectively moving the ball,

649
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Speaker 15: control the line of scrimmage, and you know, Dave's obviously

650
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Speaker 15: felt that was that was working for us, and it was,

651
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Speaker 15: so we stuck with it, and I thought it was

652
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Speaker 15: pretty good.

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Speaker 17: I know, I know the coaches in charge of arguing

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Speaker 17: with officials not you, But what did you think about

655
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Speaker 17: that call on that pick play on sleeve?

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Speaker 4: Did you see that? You haven't really seen it yet.

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Speaker 15: I'll go back and watch the film. You know, you're

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Speaker 15: on the two yard line right there. You know the

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Speaker 15: rule you can make contact within one one yard of

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Speaker 15: the line of scrimmage. So see what what it looked

661
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Speaker 15: like on film. But you know, Slagh's pretty good. One

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Speaker 15: was pretty good in their situations, So I'll go back

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Speaker 15: and look and see what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: It does running the ball that much that early take away.

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Speaker 2: Anything from the rhythm that you might have needed.

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Speaker 9: Later for the past game, I don't think so.

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Speaker 15: I think if anything, it helped later with some of

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Speaker 15: the play action stuff that worked.

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Speaker 9: Controlling the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, we're run the ball well.

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Speaker 10: So we stuck with it anymore.

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Speaker 2: All right, so my walkout song here, I was teasing

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Speaker 2: you know you did that whole stat segment. Yeah, the sponsor,

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Speaker 2: I've never seen a stat like this, JC, have you

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Speaker 2: ever seen a stat like this where Daniel Jones at

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Speaker 2: halftime had a quarterback rating of one oh nine, which

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Speaker 2: goes to show you one of my phil Simms rant

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Speaker 2: about like what is really this quarterback rating formula and

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Speaker 2: what does it really mean?

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Speaker 1: It's not see.

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Speaker 2: So he had a quarterback rating of one oh nine

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Speaker 2: at halftime. He completed four or six passes, he threw

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Speaker 2: a touchdown pass, He had zero yards. So if you

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Speaker 2: just live by the diet trap of quarterback ratings and

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Speaker 2: you judge everything on these quarterback ratings, he was four

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Speaker 2: for six for zero yards with a quarterback rating of

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Speaker 2: one o nine and a touchdown pass touchdown.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you in Germany next week, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Ah Bavarian Petzels for all friend.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you to Bob Carlbanks. If you join

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Speaker 1: us in a second quick time out. We'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Giants full of the command. There's twenty seven to twenty

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Speaker 1: on Giants Extra Point.

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Speaker 6: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan

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Speaker 6: Giants radio network.

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Speaker 15: This is Daniel Jones and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 15: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM,

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Speaker 15: New York.

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Speaker 2: First the goal at the tube nine thirty eighths ago,

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Speaker 2: tracing the jail back to the left of Jewel cheer

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Speaker 2: receivers tight left, favors type right, Robinson and motion right.

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Speaker 1: They had nope.

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Speaker 4: Jones's gotta keep it, runs to.

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Speaker 18: His left, bounces off a tackle into the touchdown. Started

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Speaker 18: running by Daniel Jones as he faked the handoff, got

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Speaker 18: hit at the one, and.

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Speaker 2: Then bounced off the rookie corner. Sandra's still and goes

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Speaker 2: in for the touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna go for two here.

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Speaker 1: And they failed the two point conversion. That was our

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Speaker 1: drive of the game, brought to you by Citizens. For

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Speaker 1: every scoring drive this season, Citizens will donate seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty dollars that You Foundation to support their work

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Speaker 1: tackling important community issues, improving overall health and empowering our youth.

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Speaker 1: That drive thirteen plays eighty yards. Giants converted third downs

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Speaker 1: of nine to five and nine yards in that drive

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Speaker 1: before the Daniel Jones keeper gave them the touchdown and

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Speaker 1: cut that Commander's lead twenty four to sixteen. Back here

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Speaker 1: on Giants extra point. The Commander's defeat the Giants twenty

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Speaker 1: seven to twenty two. John Schmelt joined by Johnathan Casias.

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Speaker 1: We're joined by Carl Banks here and Carl a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions downstairs. You probablyn't heard. The press conferences with

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Speaker 1: Dable and Daniel Jones was about the Giants run pass

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Speaker 1: balance in the first half and whether or not it

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Speaker 1: was because a lack of trust in Daniel and if

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Speaker 1: that took Daniel out of his rhythm. And I got

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Speaker 1: the sense that Daniel found the line of questioning somewhat amusing.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, the plan was to run it, and

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Speaker 1: we ran it really well, so we kept doing it

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Speaker 1: and I think that was a good thing. And Brian

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Speaker 1: Dabele said, yeah, well, we were averaging about seven yards

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Speaker 1: per carry, so I was gonna keep running it. Twenty

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Speaker 1: one carries one hundred and forty two yards in the

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Speaker 1: first half six pointy yard carry. Yeah, I keep running

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Speaker 1: it too.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Can you give me what Jaden daniels numbers were.

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Speaker 1: In the first seven yems nine of eleven for one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen eleven times.

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Speaker 4: And what are he throwing in the second half.

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Speaker 1: If you finished, he was nine of eleven in the

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Speaker 1: first half, he finished fifteen to twenty two, so he

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Speaker 1: was six six of eleven times six four eleven.

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Speaker 7: So that's same thing. You can have the same thing

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Speaker 7: to Jadeen Daniels. They were running the ball all over

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Speaker 7: the Giants. The guy only passed when he needed to

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Speaker 7: pass right, And I mean, listen, it ain't broke, Carl,

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Speaker 7: don't break it. Keep us listen. There are a lot

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Speaker 7: of things you can have to say, and if you

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Speaker 7: want to kind of shapen their crafting narrative to somehow

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Speaker 7: point to Daniel Jones or the lack of trust in

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Speaker 7: that this this ain't today.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not.

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Speaker 4: This ain't today.

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Speaker 1: Even if you don't think he's the future and you're

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Speaker 1: not a Daniel Jones fan, every game doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be his.

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Speaker 7: But here's the thing. A coach would get e fing fired.

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Speaker 7: If you're getting seven yards of pop and you decide

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Speaker 7: to abandon the run like it's that's coaching malpractice. Your

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Speaker 7: offensive line would be scratching their head like, lo, we're

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Speaker 7: owning these guys, why don't we do more of this?

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Speaker 7: So you know that is that a line of questioning

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Speaker 7: is just kind of kind of trying to craft an angle,

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Speaker 7: you know, to somehow point back to something negative about

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Speaker 7: Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 7: This game really came down to poor defensive play in

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Speaker 7: key situations. When you have a team in third and short,

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Speaker 7: it's not a crime. If it's third and two and

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Speaker 7: they gain three, you can live to fight another series.

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Speaker 7: But if a team is third and one at the

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Speaker 7: thirty yard, they're thirty and they get thirty seven yards

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Speaker 7: on a third and one third and two, it's unacceptable.

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Speaker 7: The Giants for some reason, don't know how to tackle

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Speaker 7: but one way, and that is concerning to me. Well,

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Speaker 7: first of all, Jonathan, if you have three weeks in

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Speaker 7: a row teams are running the football on you, you

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Speaker 7: would think to expect another team to run on you

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Speaker 7: until you can stop it. And so Washington came in saying, well,

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Speaker 7: it's working for everybody else, let us do it.

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Speaker 4: Too, and they did it.

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Speaker 7: But the most egregious aspect of that is that the

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Speaker 7: Giants didn't know how to tackle.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: You see a runner get hit up top, his linemen

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Speaker 7: get behind him and push him right, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 7: the only adjustment that you really need to make is

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Speaker 7: you go to the sideline and you say, okay, first guy,

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Speaker 7: hold I'm up. Second guy, take his legs. Can't push

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Speaker 7: the pile on. You can't move unless your legs are moving.

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Speaker 7: And so I was like, when are they gonna smarten

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Speaker 7: up and just do that? Like I'm I'm a tackling technician,

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Speaker 7: so I you know, I figgure it out how to

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Speaker 7: get a guy to the ground and share that information

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Speaker 7: with everybody on my defense. But you know, if you

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Speaker 7: got a guy at the point of a contact point

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Speaker 7: of attack, right at the line of scrimmage and they

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Speaker 7: spot the ball five yards later, then somebody needs to say, hey, look,

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Speaker 7: somebody hit this guy in the legs because his legs

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Speaker 7: are still moving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you with that. And something I

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Speaker 3: said pregame about population to the ball. You know these backs,

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Speaker 3: these wide receivers, they're they're very talented. You know, Paul

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Speaker 3: was talking about Eckler, how he's not strong. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 3: Eckler is one of the strongest guys in the NFL

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Speaker 3: pound for pound, Just like he's saying, you better hit

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Speaker 3: that guy low just because he's a small guy. He

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Speaker 3: moves his legs very well. He led the league and

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Speaker 3: like two years ago, he's a guy. He can do

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Speaker 3: his thing, Brian Robinson's own. He's not the only one

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Speaker 3: that can move the part right, you know, so I

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Speaker 3: agree with him, But how do you get population to

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Speaker 3: the ball without leaving your guy on a one on

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Speaker 3: one tackle every game? Because these guys are talented, you

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Speaker 3: have to get off a block. You know, we're talking

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Speaker 3: about giving one hundred percent. When when you're destroying blocks

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Speaker 3: away from you and still getting to the ball, you're

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Speaker 3: you're turning a little bit higher than one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: You're giving a little bit extra effort. And that's what

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Speaker 3: we just haven't seen from the Giants this year. We

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Speaker 3: haven't seen that extra effort that takes to slow this

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Speaker 3: team down. Because the Commanders can score points, They've done

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Speaker 3: it against really good defenses. This year, the Giants had

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Speaker 3: to be able to not only just score points, but

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Speaker 3: you had to get a stop and a turnover against

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Speaker 3: this offense.

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Speaker 7: I mean that getting the stop is the thing, but

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Speaker 7: it seemed like Washington could constantly tilt the field with

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Speaker 7: one play. If it's not them on a third down play.

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Speaker 7: It's a big player the passing game where you seem

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Speaker 7: to have things covered and there's a guy running free

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Speaker 7: for long yardage and you're playing some type of either

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Speaker 7: quarters or man under too deep and you got to

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Speaker 7: to defenders at the second level. That's just watching a

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Speaker 7: guy run either behind them or in front of them.

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Speaker 7: And I guess I don't know if they think they're

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Speaker 7: mirroring the quarterback, but listen, when a guy's running right

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Speaker 7: through your zone, somebody's got to pick him up. And

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Speaker 7: you know this is this is where they are. But

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Speaker 7: you know you last week was a call to action

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Speaker 7: and you know, guys doing the little things and not

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Speaker 7: hurting themselves. They didn't have a single procedural penalty offensively,

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Speaker 7: so they clean up.

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Speaker 4: I mean they totally cleaned it up.

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Speaker 7: They didn't have a holding call, they didn't give up

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Speaker 7: a sack, or did they give up a sack. They

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Speaker 7: had no holding calls and no procedural penalty.

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Speaker 1: Giants just four penalties in the game fifty one yards.

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Speaker 7: All defensive penalties they won. Yeah, but it's it's you know,

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Speaker 7: they can't compliment each other on any given week. It's

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00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 7: either one side of the ball plays well on the

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Speaker 7: other side doesn't. And they got to put it together

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Speaker 7: and they got to understand, uh, how to pick each

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Speaker 7: other up and what's important. Right, So, you know, not

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Speaker 7: being good tacklers and allowing teams to, well, this team

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Speaker 7: in particular, to continuously flip the field in favorable down

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Speaker 7: and distant situations for you. And you know, again, if

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Speaker 7: it's third and one, it's okay if they get three

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Speaker 7: yards because they're still on the back side of the fifty.

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Speaker 7: But if it's third and one and they got thirty

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Speaker 7: seven yards, then they just they just got into fieldal.

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Speaker 1: Range and call explosive play Wise, we like to look

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Speaker 1: at these numbers every game, right, the Commanders had five

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Speaker 1: plays of twenty yards or more. Three of those win

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Speaker 1: for twenty eight yards or more. They the forty two

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Speaker 1: yard passed is a ks. On that final drive, you

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Speaker 1: had the Noah Brown thirty one yard catch on down

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Speaker 1: the right sideline. Then you had the Austin Eckler short

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Speaker 1: pass to the left also in the fourth quarter that

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Speaker 1: went for twenty eight yards. The Giants had that one

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Speaker 1: thirty five yard touchdown catch to Theo Johnson. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the game. On that same drive, they had

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Speaker 1: a twenty three yard catch over the middle to Darius Slayton,

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Speaker 1: and then Daniel Jones had his twenty four yardrun. So

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Speaker 1: the Giants had only three plays of twenty more yards

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Speaker 1: in the skin and.

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Speaker 7: That could have been enough, but it wasn't because your

882
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 7: defense could not get off the field early enough. And

883
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 7: it was always a deficit. I mean, Washington just goes

884
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 7: down anytime they got in the red zone. They were scoring.

885
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: So and Carl, you know, I know fulk fans will say, well,

886
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: you know the Commanders the average over thirty game, they

887
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: held them to twenty seven. Shouldn't that be enough? And

888
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: I say, well, guys, time out for a second. They

889
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: could have gotten another seven at the end of the

890
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: game if they wanted to. They kneeled the ball in

891
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: the one yard line three times, they only punted twice.

892
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: It was only an eight possession. Deam called this is

893
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: a low possession. That's the key.

894
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 7: Well, see the other thing too, It doesn't matter if

895
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 7: they score thirty or two, as long as it's one

896
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 7: more than your team, right, And that's where the Giants

897
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 7: have got it. I mean, I don't care anything about

898
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 7: the numbers per se. I'm looking at the execution. What

899
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 7: are you doing to enable your team to win a

900
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 7: football game? And last week it was procedural. This week

901
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 7: it's tackling, and you know when your offense is being productive.

902
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 7: And even when they punted, they had some empty calories

903
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 7: on the first drive, but they just got back on

904
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 7: the horse the second drive. Second time they had the ball,

905
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 7: and you know, finish the deal. You gotta have a

906
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 7: defense that feels that and say, okay, let us get

907
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 7: them back on the field again. Because part of the

908
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 7: game plan was to keep Jade and Daniels on the sideline,

909
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 7: so that's why they were eating.

910
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 4: Up so much clock.

911
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 7: But then Jaydon Daniels comes in and he says, Okay,

912
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 7: I'm gonna whatever whatever time I got, and I'm gonna

913
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 7: figure out how to get some big yards and score

914
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 7: on this Giant defense. And you know that's what it is.

915
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 7: That's the story.

916
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask both of you guys this question. Carl,

917
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: I'll start with you. What does it mean and what

918
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: does it represent about a team when every week it's

919
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: something else that pops up that turns a win into

920
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: a loss. You mentioned last week it was procedural penalties.

921
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: This week he was tackles. Go back to the previous

922
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: homes and teams when they could not score a touchdown

923
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: against the Bengals and the Philadelphia Eagles. Go back to

924
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: the Commander's game at the start of the year, when

925
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: you had the special teams issues, you had missed field

926
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: goals in another game. It's always something else that pops

927
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: up that prevents you from making enough plays or you

928
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: make enough too many mistakes to lose a game. A

929
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Saquon does a crazy hurdle here in the Eagles game,

930
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: What does that tell you about a football team?

931
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Speaker 7: It just tells me that there are not enough emphasis

932
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 7: put on priority. When you're a two win team in

933
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 7: the NFL, nothing is routine. You can't play like there's

934
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 7: no important play. Every play is an important play. So

935
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 7: when you approach a game, you approach it like every

936
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 7: single possession is a priority possession. It's not routine. It's

937
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 7: not we'll get them next time. You got to play

938
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 7: for the moment and win each and every moment, or

939
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 7: try to win each and every moment and not ben.

940
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 7: But don't break. If you got somebody you know, pinned up,

941
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 7: don't let them off the hook.

942
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: What does that tell you, Jason?

943
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: I mean, this is you know, sixteen games, it'll be

944
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 3: eight and eight. This is what nine games in. So

945
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: this is a little bit past the halfway point. And

946
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: I feel like at the halfway point you could start

947
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: deciding who's a good team, who's not a good team,

948
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: you know. And the Commanders, man, they got a good team.

949
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: You know.

950
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: They figure out how to win games, you know, and

951
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: you've seen that weekend and week out. The hell Mary

952
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: last week. The first game against the Giants in week two,

953
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 3: they didn't even score a touchdown. They still won, you know,

954
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: and they figured out ways how to win. They figured

955
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: out how to keep the Giants off the field at

956
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: the end this game.

957
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: And that's what the Giants did in twenty twenty two,

958
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: by the way, same deal.

959
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: Found ways to win games.

960
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: So now the Giants are, you know, declaring themselves as

961
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:10,959
Speaker 3: not a good team.

962
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 7: Well and right, it is what it is. And look,

963
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 7: the Giants haven't They're not a calamity. They're not a

964
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 7: clowns show, but it's just the fundamentals of the game

965
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 7: that escapes them. And it's not a priority each and

966
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 7: every series, each and every play, each and every game.

967
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 7: And in order to get out of your own way,

968
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 7: when you're a two win team and you have an

969
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 7: opportunity to win, the opponent doesn't give it to you,

970
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 7: you've got to You've got to prioritize every possession and

971
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 7: understand the importance of every possession. That means tackling, right,

972
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 7: that means blocking, that means running, it means passing. The

973
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 7: quarterback made good decisions with the football today. Offensive line

974
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 7: had no procedural penalties. They ran the ball well. Yes,

975
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 7: they had some drops that should have been caught. I

976
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 7: don't think that hurt them in the game. I think

977
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 7: would hurt them in this game was the defensive.

978
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: Performance.

979
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 7: Right that third downs in particular, again not just giving

980
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 7: up third downs, but you're letting them tilt the feel

981
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 7: on every single third down conversion. And that's, in my opinion,

982
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 7: where the difference in the game was. Because if you

983
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 7: can hold them back on the other side of fifty

984
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 7: and forced punts, it's great, but you know, you're third

985
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 7: and one and like I said, you're given over twenty

986
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 7: yards and they're flipping the field. But you got to

987
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 7: learn to be complimentary to Everybody's got to make sure

988
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 7: that they value possessions. And this week it was the defense,

989
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 7: last week it was the offense. Next week, maybe they

990
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 7: put it together. But until they do, this is going

991
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 7: to be a rec curring theme, like, Okay, they played hard,

992
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 7: they got close enough if one or two plays and

993
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 7: you know, listen.

994
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: Were we nine the time for moral victory?

995
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 7: No, there's no such thing as a more victory right now.

996
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 7: You gotta figure it, figure it out. And until they do,

997
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 7: this is going to be the story. You're gonna look

998
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 7: at the scoreboard and say, boy, if they had one

999
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 7: more possession, Boy, if they would have did X, Y

1000
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 7: and Z.

1001
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 1: Well they didn't.

1002
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 7: They didn't, and that is kind of where they are.

1003
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 7: Look they great game plan offensively this week. I think

1004
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 7: they executed it as best they could, but they are

1005
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 7: not good enough to overcome just stuff that good teams

1006
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 7: can overcome because they don't get the opportunities as much,

1007
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 7: they don't create the opportunities as much.

1008
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: And Carl, that's how I wanted to talk about to

1009
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 3: create opportunities, we look at defensive defensively, they didn't turn

1010
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: the ball over there. They didn't take the ball away.

1011
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I'm not going to use the word turnover.

1012
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: They didn't take the ball away, because that's what you

1013
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: got to do. You have to take the ball away

1014
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: from the offense, whether you're hitting it out, you're tipping

1015
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: it and you're getting an interception, whatever the case is,

1016
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: they didn't create a turnover. When you play a good offense,

1017
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: which the commanders have with the quarterback that can create

1018
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: as much as he can create with the weapons that

1019
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: he has on the outside, you have to go in

1020
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: there as a defense saying we have to take the

1021
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: ball away from them. Well, we have to get the

1022
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: ball to our offense for them to have an extra

1023
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: one or two possessions.

1024
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 7: So, Jonathan, you're one hundred percent correct, But you have

1025
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 7: to know your personnel and how you want to take

1026
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 7: the ball away.

1027
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 4: Right.

1028
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 7: They're not talented enough on the back end. They're young, yes, right,

1029
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 7: so they're not talented enough to take risk. You either

1030
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 7: got to get a strip, sack, a tip football, right

1031
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 7: if those aren't happening. If you learn how to tackle better,

1032
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 7: and you get, like you say, population to the football,

1033
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 7: you get a couple guys to the football one, especially

1034
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 7: if you got the guy's legs wrapped up somebody, the

1035
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 7: second or third guy in can go in there and

1036
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 7: pull the ball out. But it just they don't have

1037
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 7: that type of uh symmetry with their with their defense

1038
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 7: and their personnel. But I know they're not good enough

1039
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 7: on the back end to even take chances because they're

1040
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 7: all young.

1041
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: One interception on the year from the linebacker.

1042
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, well they lead the league in sacks, so that

1043
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 7: you know, that makes up for no interceptions.

1044
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: A lot of strip sacks though, Carl, which is surprising.

1045
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean Cleveland was the last one they had, right, Yeah, yeah.

1046
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: I mean Dexter's not blindside anybody. He's just swallowing back

1047
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: right in front of front of them.

1048
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: Kind of hard from that side, the blindside everybody. He's

1049
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of everywhere. It's hard to miss him coming. Carl

1050
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: will see in Germany if anything special plan that you

1051
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: want to tell the folks about with or everything else

1052
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: you're doing, if.

1053
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 7: You're coming to Germany, then stop by the Giant's house.

1054
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 7: We've got some pop up stuff and some really cool

1055
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 7: German Giants times Germany merchandise.

1056
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: You have some Giants later hosing. You're ready to go?

1057
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: Do you really?

1058
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 4: Yes? We do. It's really cool stuff.

1059
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it. I would pay to

1060
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: see JC get some later hosing. I think that'd be fun.

1061
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 7: I don't have, but not that I'm not even brave

1062
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 7: enough to put my friends in there.

1063
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 4: I definitely wouldn't want to see Jonathan Carl.

1064
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: We will talk to you, Jeody.

1065
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: Thanks.

1066
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: All right, let'sten a quick timeout. We'll come back with

1067
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: more Giants extra point. The Giants fall to the Commander's

1068
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty two.

1069
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Speaker 6: You are listening to Giants extra Point on the WFAN

1070
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 6: Giants Radio network.

1071
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 19: This is THEO Johnson and you're listening to the radio

1072
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 19: home of the Big Blue the Fan, w f AN

1073
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Speaker 19: and WFAM FM, New York.

1074
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: The old box to throw fires it up in the

1075
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: middle for THEO Johnson up to see into the head

1076
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 2: some touchdown. They got it right on the scene route

1077
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: that time.

1078
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Speaker 7: They sure did.

1079
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Speaker 1: At THEO.

1080
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: Johnson with his first career touchdown reception thirty five yards

1081
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: of a two forty eight to go. It's now the

1082
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 2: Commander's twenty seven of the Giant It's twenty two.

1083
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: That thirty five yard touchdown capped a four play, seventy

1084
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: five yard jarred drive for the Giants. A thirty five

1085
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: yard touchdown the giants longest play of the game. That

1086
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: cut the lead back down to one score, but the

1087
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: Commanders drove right down the field. The Giants never got

1088
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: the ball back and they fell to the Commanders twenty

1089
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: seven to twenty two. That was tonight's play. The game

1090
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1091
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1093
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at today's scoreboard. In the one

1094
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: o'clock games today the Falcons, they defeated the Cowboys twenty

1095
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: seven to twenty one. Dak Prescott left that game with

1096
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Speaker 1: a hamstring injury late in the second half. They had

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Speaker 1: a late touchdown. Cowboys were down by two scores for

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Speaker 1: most of that game. In the second half, Bills hold on.

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Speaker 1: They defeat the Dolphins three to twenty seven. Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: three touchdown passes in that game. Kirk Cousins, by the way,

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00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: had three touchdown passes in that game for the Falcons,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow five touchdown passes. They demolish the Raiders forty

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Speaker 1: one to twenty four. Chase Brown one hundred twenty yards

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Speaker 1: on the ground as well two touchdowns for Justin Herbert

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00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: two touchdowns for JK. Dobbins. The Chargers defeat the Browns

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Speaker 1: twenty seven to ten. Jamis Winston not as much luck

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Speaker 1: in the second start for Cleveland. Titans beat the Patriots

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00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: in overtime twenty to seventeen after a dramatic touchdown by

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Speaker 1: the Patriots to send that game into overtime. Mason Rudolph

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00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: a pair of touchdown throws in that game. Panthers they

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00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: hold on to defeat the Saints twenty three to twenty two.

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00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara had one hundred and fifty five yards on

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Speaker 1: the ground for the Saints. Andy Dalton Derek Carr rather

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00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: a touchdown throw, but not enough, and the Panthers with

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Speaker 1: their second win of the year. The Giants opponents next

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00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: week in Germany. They defeat the Saints twenty three to

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00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: twenty two. Ravens blew out the Broncos forty one to ten.

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00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson two hundred and eighty yards and three touchdowns

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Speaker 1: on just sixteen completions on nineteen attempts. That's as an

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Speaker 1: efficient game as you can have against one of the

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00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: better defenses in football. In the Denver Broncos, Derek Henry

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00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: rushes one hundred and six yards two touchdowns. Zave Flowers

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Speaker 1: in that game five catches, one hundred and twenty seven

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Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. Some games going on right now,

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00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: Eagles lead the Jaguars ten to nothing. Jayalen Hurts has

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Speaker 1: a touchdown throw in that game, completing eight of nine passes.

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00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: That pass went to Saquon Barkley that game. Right now,

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Speaker 1: in the second quarter, eleven minutes to go in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter, Cardinals lead the Bears seven to three. Lions

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Speaker 1: lead the Packers seven to three. Jared Goff a touchdown

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00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: throw in that game. Rams and Seahawks are scoreless that

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Speaker 1: game at the end of the first quarter. Gino Smith

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00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: in interception in that game. And tonight, the Indianapolis Colts

1134
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Speaker 1: visit the Minnesota Vikings. Giants. Football is brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Verizon, the official five G network in the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants, Verizon America's most reliable network, Quick time out.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back and wrap up our network on the

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Speaker 1: WFN Giants Radio Network, Giants again failed twoll to the

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00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: Commanders twenty seven to twenty two.

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Speaker 6: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN

1141
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 6: Giants Radio Network.

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00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 20: This is myliitue, neighbor, and you're listening to the radio

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00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 20: home of Big Blue the Fan WFN and WFAN FM,

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00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 20: New York.

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Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra Point. The Giants fall

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00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: to the Washington command there's here MetLife Stadium. Twenty seven

1147
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: to twenty two. The Giants fall to two and seven

1148
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: on the season. Please stick with us if you're listening

1149
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: to us on our flagstip station WFAN one to one

1150
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: point nine FM here in New York. But it is

1151
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: time to say goodbye to the affiliates across the country

1152
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: on the Giants Radio Network. Our next broadcast will be

1153
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: next Sunday, when the Giants travel across the Atlantic Ocean.

1154
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: Hello Munich. We'll be taking on the Carolina Panthers, who

1155
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: are trying to create a whittick streak. If they beat

1156
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: the Saints today, they'll be going for their second straight win.

1157
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm assuming with priceing quarterback, we'll see if any Dalton

1158
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: gets healthy and comes back. But that broadcast will be

1159
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: bright early. Folks, get whatever Germans do, pastries, breakfast, whatever

1160
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: the Germans eat for breakfast, Get that ready to go.

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00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: I thirty kick it'll be an eight to thirty pre

1162
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: game across our radio network. Make sure you tune in,

1163
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: of course, and if you want more Giants coverage during

1164
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: the week, folks tune in too. Big Book Kickoff Live.

1165
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: It is our daily Giant show at twelve thirty every

1166
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. We talk Giants football and take your

1167
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: calls for an hour every day. Thanks for listening on

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00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: us today the Giants again, Full to the Commanders, twenty

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00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: seven to twenty two. We'll see you next week on

1170
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: the WFAN Giants radio network. Ah, but if you're on

1171
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: WFN and New York, you're stuck with us for another hour,

1172
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: So Johnath they can see us. Paul Detino will rejoin

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00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: me and we will take your calls at eight eight

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00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: eight eight oh eight one zero one to nine. Plenty

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00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: of sound from the locker room as well elite neighbors

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00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: as E'so Jalari, Dexter Lawrence and more. As we continue

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00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: here on Giants extra point. We'll be right back with

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Speaker 1: more after this.

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Speaker 4: This is Tyrone Tracy Jr.

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Speaker 21: And you're listening to the radio home of Big the Fan,

1181
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 21: WFAN and Wfan FM, New York.

1182
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: Third and eighteen at the Giants forty two. Isaiah Simmons

1183
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: checks in the ballgame empty seven for Daniels as he

1184
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: takes the snap back to throw, checks it in the

1185
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: white flat, completes it to the Abbie Brown who runs

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00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: out of a tackle.

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00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 18: He's got the first down inside the twenty and tackle

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00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 18: at the eighteen yard line.

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00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: First and ten at the eighteen, Daniels back rolls it

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00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: left into the end zone, put for a touchdown.

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00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 4: Dean kay Banks never turned his head around and Terry

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00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: McLaurin beat him for the score.

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Speaker 18: So they go from third and eighteen in two plays

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00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 18: in the end zone for a touchdown and the Commanders

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00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 18: now leading twenty to seven for the extra point pending.

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Speaker 1: And that was our Giants turning point of the game.

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00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: I took a booth pole and I had enough people

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00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: wanting the thirty eighteen conversion as a turning point, some

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00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: people wanting to mc lorn play as a turning point.

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00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: So what do we do? We use them both. So

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00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: if you call in an identify either one of those

1202
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: plays on Boomer and g O tomorrow on Wfan in

1203
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: the nine am hour, you can participate in the Giants

1204
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: Turning Point contest. The first correct call it a name

1205
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: of the g games turning Point, we'll win two tickets

1206
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: to an upcoming Giants home game. We're joined by Paul

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00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: that Tino, Johnathan Casillas Returns and Paul. We talked about

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00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: this off the top, but we should just resurface on

1209
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: that on those two plays a little bit. At that point,

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00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: it's just a seven point game, fourteen to seventeen. You

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00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: get the Commanders into a third and eighteen situation. I'm

1212
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: not gonna call it a give up pass, but let's

1213
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: be honest. They're throwing that pass to set up a

1214
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: decent field goal. They're not throwing that pass at Diame

1215
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: Brown to get a first down, and Drew Phillips, who's

1216
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: normally a very reliable tackler, gets stiff armed by Brown,

1217
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: turns the ball up field, gets the first down. Then

1218
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: on the following play, your only job as a cornerback

1219
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,479
Speaker 1: is to not let the ball get over your head

1220
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. If you're at the goal line and

1221
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: the balls in front of you. It's either out of

1222
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: bounds and it's a field goal, or it's caught in

1223
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: the field of play and the half runs out. But

1224
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: the Anddie Banks allows Terry McLaurin to go past them

1225
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: on a little fake in route back to the corner

1226
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: of the end zone for a touchdown, and that made

1227
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: it a two score game. It took the Giants out

1228
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: of being able to run the football as much as

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00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: they did in the first half, as effective as they were,

1230
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: because you're down two scores and they couldn't quite make

1231
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: it back all the way to come away with the victory.

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Speaker 22: At that time, when the Commanders took over the possession

1233
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 22: with about five minutes to go, I said to Jonathan

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00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 22: Cassio is sitting next to me in the booth. They're

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Speaker 22: looking for a double dip here. They're going to try

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00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 22: to score, make it a two score game. Get the

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 22: ball to start the third quarter, and before the Giants

1238
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 22: even touched the football again, they could be down by

1239
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 22: three scores.

1240
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Speaker 1: Not only the Giants did get to stop at the

1241
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: start of the third and that's the ironic part, right,

1242
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: they give up that touchdown yet they get the three

1243
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: and out to start the third quarter, and the defense says, okay,

1244
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna give ourselves a chance, and the offense gets

1245
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: the ball and of course they get a touchdown wiped

1246
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: off the board because of a PI on a pick

1247
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: call called against Slayton.

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Speaker 22: And you know, from that point forward, the Giants were

1249
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 22: just trying to dig out of the hole. And to

1250
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 22: their credit, they had two touchdown drives in the fourth

1251
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 22: quarter to continue to stay mathematically in the game. But

1252
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 22: this time, unlike the previous month, the defense could not

1253
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 22: come through with the big fourth down or fourth quarter

1254
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 22: stop to get the ball back. They've been doing that

1255
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 22: for a month and this time it went reverse.

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Speaker 1: We have a bunch of the defensive leaders down in

1257
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: the locker room talking about the Giants defensive porn performance

1258
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: tonight today, which had to be considered disappointment in their

1259
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty two loss. Remember twenty seven points

1260
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: not a huge number, but Washington could have scored on

1261
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: the final possession they decided to kneel it out. They

1262
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: only had eight possessions, they scored on six of them,

1263
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: just two punts in the game, so obviously not enough.

1264
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: Let's start with the defensive captain, Dexter Lawrence. He talked

1265
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: to the media in the locker room after the game.

1266
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 9: How frustrating was the defense to when needed a few

1267
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 9: times just couldn't quite get the stops?

1268
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 14: Uh.

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00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 19: Very we gotta be better at the situational knowing what

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00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 19: what's going on during the game, and you know how

1271
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 19: we gotta perform during that time of the game and

1272
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 19: understand the importance of it. And that's where you gotta

1273
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 19: be at your best. You know, he wasn't.

1274
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 9: Text when you when they've hunted one time all day?

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00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 13: What is it as a defensive player?

1276
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 9: What doesn't make you feel like and then you.

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Speaker 19: Just that mean when you do good out third down

1278
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 19: or or and they went on some fourth downs too,

1279
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 19: We just didn't.

1280
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 13: They just outplayed us.

1281
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 19: Did you feel your offensive gave you? I think offense

1282
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 19: played well enough for us to win. Defense just got

1283
00:59:59,200 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 19: beat up today.

1284
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 13: What happened? Why?

1285
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 7: Uh?

1286
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: The past few games, you guys been able to get

1287
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: to the quarterback was no problem.

1288
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 13: Today you guys weren't able to touch Jade Daniels. They

1289
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 13: had a lot of chippers.

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Speaker 19: He's he He says that he catch the ball at

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01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 19: seven sits back at twelve and they was chipping. So

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Speaker 19: I he he's gotten very comfortable, real quick with the game.

1293
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 19: And you know he did a good job, you know,

1294
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Speaker 19: evading the pressure.

1295
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Speaker 11: Okay, when you were sitting you with Bryan, you look

1296
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 11: hurry First Street?

1297
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Speaker 13: And is that how you feel?

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Speaker 19: No worry, No, if I'm talking to my teammates, Nah,

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Speaker 19: it ain't nothing for you to be concerned about. We

1300
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 19: just talking about the game and how we gonna do

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 19: what we gonna do to be better.

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Speaker 9: When you look at the big picture of two at seven?

1303
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Speaker 4: What what? What do you take this from here?

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Speaker 19: As a leader, we gotta be more more precise, I think,

1305
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 19: as a as a team and as individuals. We gotta

1306
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 19: understand the game a little more, understand why certain things

1307
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 19: being called, Understand the importance of situations in the game,

1308
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 19: and you know, momentual shifts in the game.

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01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 13: And we haven't been good at that. And and that's

1310
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 13: the thing. How do you keep the guys hungry motivated?

1311
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 9: Oh, what's the what's the what's the trick in terms of.

1312
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 19: Just understanding your why, why you play this sport and

1313
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 19: who you do it for?

1314
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 13: And you know we've grown out here.

1315
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 19: You know what I'm saying, like, we gotta be able

1316
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 19: to motivate ourselves and you know, just just play a

1317
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 19: simple game of football. That's it, you, I say, every

1318
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 19: My my message is you just playing organize backyard football,

1319
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 19: you know, and that's how and that's the approach that

1320
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 19: should be taken. You know, just the ease if there

1321
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 19: is any you know e's or anything like that, just

1322
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 19: to easy and you know, come ready to play Jackson.

1323
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 17: You feel this game, the way the offense was coming

1324
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 17: back in the second half of your offense that you

1325
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 17: guys will make it one stop away from it.

1326
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 13: They gave us a chance to win and we didn't

1327
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 13: take advantage of it.

1328
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 9: I mean that that's hard.

1329
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 13: They gave us a chance to win and we didn't

1330
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 13: take advantage of it.

1331
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: And JC I love that final answer from Decks. Great

1332
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: job from Pete hoffin getting those getting that audio down there,

1333
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: by the way, and Dexter's right. The offense gave this

1334
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 1: team a chance to win to and the defense didn't

1335
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: I think hold up their end of the bargain.

1336
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

1337
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: You know I talked about the defense before being dominant

1338
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 3: because sometimes you got to hold the team to fourteen points,

1339
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 3: ten points if your offense is not you know, scoring

1340
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 3: if it's not clicking. You know, the Giants haven't scored

1341
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: a lot of points at home this year. We talked

1342
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: about coming into this game. The high for mett Life

1343
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 3: was fifteen points. You know, I think Seattle was the

1344
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 3: high on the road that the Giants scored twenty nine,

1345
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 3: and I don't know if they've broken twenty one besides today,

1346
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 3: I think that was the only game that they had

1347
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: more than twenty the twenty nine point output in Seattle.

1348
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: They scored twenty twice, but they.

1349
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: Not over twenty one, not over twenty one, which is

1350
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: three touchdowns. They've only scored twenty nine once.

1351
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: Now, they did score three touchdowns against the Commanders, but

1352
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: they didn't have the kicker, so.

1353
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: Right, so now today they get an offensive output that

1354
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: I don't think that even the defensive guys are expecting

1355
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: because defensively, you're thinking.

1356
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 4: What do we have to hold this team to to

1357
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 4: be successful?

1358
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: And the number you always give us seventeen, right.

1359
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: And that's a tough task to ask when this team

1360
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 3: was averaging thirty points a game.

1361
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: Okay, they're the third most highest scoring team in the league.

1362
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: So getting points from your offense, which is only scoring

1363
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: what ten points a game at home? Getting double more

1364
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: than double than that. I don't know if defensively they

1365
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 3: expected more than that, but I know they expected to

1366
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 3: hold the Commanders to lower than what they allowed. And

1367
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 3: then also they didn't get off the field at opportune

1368
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 3: times a third and eighteen and then again converting later

1369
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: on in that drive to be a instead of a

1370
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 3: field goal. You know, it's not backbreaking, but when you

1371
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: talk about defense and being physically tough, being mentally tough,

1372
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 3: those are situations right there. That a break of defense,

1373
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: you know. And you know, not that they wasn't competitive,

1374
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: they were, but they allowed little fourth down, little third

1375
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: down conversions, you know, mistackle here, mistackle there. Then you

1376
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 3: look up at the end of the game and you're like,

1377
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 3: what just happened? Our offense actually scored touchdowns today, I

1378
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: met life, which they haven't done, you know, in a while.

1379
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: And the defense was on the field to get them

1380
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: off to win the game, to put the ball back

1381
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 3: into the offensive hands, and they could not get off

1382
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 3: the field when it mattered most. They couldn't create a

1383
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 3: turnover against a team. Look, the Commanders are good offense.

1384
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 3: They've been scoring a lot of points on everybody this year.

1385
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 3: But the Giants didn't do what it takes to create

1386
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: a stop on defense to give the offensive extra possession.

1387
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: And at the end of the game, like Dexter said,

1388
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: it was in their hands and they failed to capitalize

1389
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: on the opportunity that they had to get the ball

1390
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 3: back to the offense for them to do something.

1391
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 4: To win the game.

1392
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: Tom Canavan asked a question, dex Al just talking to

1393
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: Brian Burns after the game and his locker, He's really emerged,

1394
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: I think as another leader on this defense. Let's listen

1395
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: to what Brian Burns have to say after the game.

1396
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 9: A more positive outlook on the game.

1397
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 14: But I could turn turn my career around, you know,

1398
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 14: and start winning the ball game to you know, finally

1399
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 14: get to the playoffs.

1400
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 4: And whatnot, you know.

1401
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 14: But like I said, it's the NFL. Just gotta go

1402
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 14: go ahead and go guy. You can't get too I

1403
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 14: can get to go to Utahs.

1404
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 9: When does it get too late to turn it around?

1405
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: Is there such a thing?

1406
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 9: Is there a ball back where I'm not sure that's

1407
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 9: too soon to say.

1408
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1409
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 13: I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't know.

1410
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 14: Would still believe that this can be fixed used to

1411
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 14: the NFL strength the things that happen, you know, people

1412
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 14: going runs all the time, so you know, just a

1413
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 14: week ago there's a lot of two and six teams

1414
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 14: and whatnot, so you know it's just on us to

1415
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 14: you know, capitalize opportunities.

1416
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 16: But do you think this is to be a group

1417
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 16: or a team, you know, like what you feel about

1418
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 16: it for a story or something that could go on.

1419
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 9: Around in different things around definitely work a cousin's just

1420
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 9: with the subject and trade talks. You just played well,

1421
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 9: so does that What would you think if he was

1422
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 9: about here after Tuesday?

1423
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 14: I mean I'm always going on, you know, somebody that's

1424
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 14: been in my room since Oca's to be here.

1425
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1426
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 14: It just the bond that I've built with 'em and

1427
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 14: you know him as a player, like we've been able

1428
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 14: to ACCOMPLI some good things, you know, it's past four weeks.

1429
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 4: Proud of 'em, you know, but.

1430
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 14: You know it's a business first, so I understand how

1431
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 14: things work. But uh, you know, I would always wanna

1432
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 14: be a presumable.

1433
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 12: How much it do you put today on the past

1434
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 12: rushers and ability to get to Jed Where do you

1435
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:48,959
Speaker 12: think it was just kind.

1436
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 4: Of a full I feel like defense how that before?

1437
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 14: I feel like defensively it was all over, you know

1438
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 14: A like I said, everything works and closed as a one,

1439
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 14: so everybody has to be on the same record.

1440
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 9: To you know, execute at a high level. And that's

1441
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 9: not what we did going Did they do any different

1442
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 9: up front?

1443
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 14: The temptree us to a chipped off game, you know,

1444
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 14: and usually it's one side and maybe like four ends

1445
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 14: on decks, but this time I feel like they was

1446
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 14: chipping both sides, four ends on decks and you know,

1447
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 14: really trying to put emphasis on, you know, stopping our

1448
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 14: our rush.

1449
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: Probably specifica.

1450
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 13: Jade's a little banged up, so it makes sense.

1451
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 20: Right do you do you worry that if you guys

1452
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 20: can start winnings to it, there could be coaching change

1453
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 20: here after the season?

1454
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: Definite in my mind?

1455
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 9: What's there? Even more? We asked you earlier about you know,

1456
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 9: your journey here and and where you can. Obviously you're

1457
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 9: playing the Panthers next week. This game probably had circle

1458
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 9: for a while.

1459
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 15: You going in with the same records then, I don't

1460
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 15: you know, who's gonna be favored.

1461
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 4: In this game? But they wanted it.

1462
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 9: Hm, they wanted yeah? Yeah? What?

1463
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: Uh?

1464
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 9: You know what does this mean for you?

1465
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: You?

1466
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 9: I'm sure you thought you would be in a much

1467
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 9: better place than they are in this point.

1468
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 4: There is another game.

1469
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 13: I'm trying to blow it up to be all that

1470
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 13: it is.

1471
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 14: But you know, I'm prepared the same way I always

1472
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 14: do and go out there and play the dominations.

1473
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: That's Brian Burns in the locker room after the game, guys, Paul,

1474
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: you're right over there. Yeah, I'm just thinking about how

1475
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: Brian Burns is a player who was traded to this

1476
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: team just some months ago before the season started, got

1477
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,879
Speaker 1: a big contract extension, and how he and Dexter Lawrence

1478
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: after every loss are easily the two most upset players

1479
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: in that locker room every week. And you could tell

1480
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: they leave this defense together and the player they do

1481
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: expect both their voices and and I'll.

1482
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 22: Be honest with you, that's pretty cool that a newcomer

1483
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 22: like that. Bobby Okarak last year was a newcomer and

1484
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 22: was voted a co captain, and that was pretty cool.

1485
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 22: This is also cool because Burns is making quite a

1486
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 22: large number and many times players are accused, especially when

1487
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 22: they get to a new team, Well, it's gonna take

1488
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 22: them time to fit in. Maybe they can't be a

1489
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 22: leader right away with the number that they're making. You know,

1490
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,919
Speaker 22: there's a lot of reasons not to be. Brian Burns

1491
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 22: is everything you would want him to be.

1492
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: And he busts his butt and he's hurting by the way,

1493
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan and I have talked about this. He's been playing

1494
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: with a bad groin for weeks. I believe he's gotten

1495
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: achilles now that's going on. And he hustles his butt

1496
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: off every single play that he's on the feet. He

1497
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: did a great job on the edge earlyer in this game.

1498
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: He stopped Daniels on a player outside. He stopped the

1499
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: running the first ha he shows up and I know people,

1500
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: you know the pass rush was it as good as

1501
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: it's been in past weeks. No, but a big reason

1502
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels only dropped back to pass around twenty five

1503
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: times in this game had deflection. John he didn't have

1504
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: a deflection on the pass two times. Well, no, those

1505
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: are passes. He had some scrambles and runs off the

1506
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: passes too, which is I think.

1507
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 3: But it's the least amount that he's had all year, right,

1508
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 3: and he talked about, you know, stopping the rush. The

1509
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 3: commanders wanted to stop their rush. This is the thing

1510
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 3: about the NFL. If you don't give yourself a chance

1511
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 3: to rush, meaning you don't put yourself in a situation

1512
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: where you can rush, then you don't have the opportunity

1513
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: to rush.

1514
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: What's the old look. Things are cliches for a reason.

1515
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: It's because a lot of times they're true. When you

1516
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: give them one hundred and fifty yards rushing, it's hard

1517
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: to rush the passer.

1518
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: And what you're hearing from him is disappointed in himself

1519
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 3: in the defense, That's what you're hearing from him. I've

1520
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 3: been on the side of that. I've been on the

1521
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 3: side of really, you know, not good teams. We talked

1522
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 3: about this Tupaul. Teams that have that haven't done well,

1523
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 3: and it's on the defense a lot. It's very hard

1524
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: to speak to the media, but you have to write.

1525
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 3: You have to take accountability, which we're seeing from the

1526
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 3: guys that's doing it. Mostly you have to play better,

1527
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 3: and that's what the Giants haven't done last five games.

1528
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 3: This is what they've given up rushing one hundred and

1529
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 3: forty nine this week against the Commanders, one hundred and

1530
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 3: fifty seven last week against the Steelers, two hundred and

1531
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 3: sixty nine against the Eagles, one hundred and twenty one

1532
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 3: against Cincinnati, and one hundred and seventy five on the

1533
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: win on the road against Seattle. The Giants have not

1534
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 3: been doing a good job in stopping to run. And

1535
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 3: when you look at a defense and you say is

1536
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: this a physical defense? You look at a team you

1537
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 3: say is this a physical team? You look at if

1538
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 3: they can stop the run and if they can run

1539
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 3: the football, and the Giants the last five weeks has

1540
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,560
Speaker 3: not been able to do that. And even against the Cowboys,

1541
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 3: which they which they were in that game at home,

1542
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: you know, and they only allowed eighty points, they still

1543
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: lost that game. I mean eighty rushing yard. Sorry, they

1544
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: don't allowed eighty rushing yards. They still lost that game.

1545
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: So the Giants are losing games in ways where they're

1546
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 3: either stopping the run and they're losing, they're holding team

1547
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: the field goals and they're losing, or they're getting the

1548
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 3: ball ran down and they're getting physically controlled for four quarters.

1549
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 3: Because that's what we saw today. Commanders didn't dominate this game,

1550
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: but they physically controlled it.

1551
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: For four quarters.

1552
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 22: Well they what do I always say, a big book

1553
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 22: kickoff live. You have to be able to run the

1554
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 22: ball when you need to run the ball, and everybody

1555
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 22: knows you're going to do it. And in the fourth

1556
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,799
Speaker 22: quarter with under nine minutes to go, I know Washington

1557
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 22: did have a big play during those two drives, one

1558
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 22: big play, But the truth is they ran the ball

1559
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 22: and everyone in this building knew what they were going

1560
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 22: to do. And the Giants defense for the past month

1561
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 22: or so has usually gotten the ball back in that

1562
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 22: spot and the offense has failed to overcome the deficit.

1563
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 22: This time, the defense looked as if they were powerless

1564
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 22: to get the ball back, and that to me was

1565
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 22: the big change in this game today and ultimately John

1566
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 22: for me, is extremely disappointing.

1567
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: No question about. All right, let's go take a little calls.

1568
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: We're still gonna hear from Bobby o'caregy downstairs if he's

1569
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: he'sos Lorri downstairs, league neighbors, John running a couple other

1570
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: players as well. But I want to squeeze a couple

1571
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: of calls in at eighty eight eight oh eight, one

1572
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: zero one nine. Let's go to Stephen Connecticut. He's gonna

1573
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: be our first caller on Giants extra points. Steve, what's

1574
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: going on?

1575
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 10: Good evening, John Paul JC, Good to talk to you, gentlemen,

1576
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 10: first time caller.

1577
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: Just thanks to what do you got?

1578
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 10: I just wanted to share something quick and then get

1579
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 10: your guys opinion and take on something. So obviously, you know,

1580
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 10: listening to some of the comments that Jonathan made about

1581
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 10: the running game and just you know, I'm not sure

1582
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 10: kind of why they abandoned the running game in the

1583
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 10: first quarter there when it seemed to really be producing

1584
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 10: yardage during the game. You, gentlemen feel is it the

1585
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 10: thing with coaching coaching decisions? You know, I feel like

1586
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 10: we've seen games where the defense is really on but

1587
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 10: the offense is unable to produce. And then there's been

1588
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 10: games where, like today, the offense was able to put

1589
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 10: some drives together, put some points on the board, but

1590
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 10: defense was unable to stop the Commanders when the moment

1591
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 10: was needed. So just want to get your guys opinion

1592
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 10: and I'll take your comments off the air.

1593
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

1594
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 12: Guys.

1595
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 22: Well, let me say this and talking to the guys

1596
01:13:55,160 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 22: downstairs and Obviously, the questions came up because I believe

1597
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 22: Tracy had almost fifty yards rushing at the end of

1598
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 22: the first quarter, right, and Devin Singletary had a good

1599
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 22: I think I'm not mistaken.

1600
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 4: We had one hundred and fifteen at the end of

1601
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 4: the first quarter.

1602
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: One hundred and forty five in the first PLCE.

1603
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 22: So the question then becomes, Okay, why didn't you run

1604
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 22: the ball more? Well, the biggest problem maybe, well, they

1605
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 22: could have run the ball more.

1606
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: In the first half. They only threw it six times.

1607
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 22: Yeah, exactly, exactly, And so in the second half, when

1608
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 22: you had done such a good job with the running game,

1609
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 22: you'd love to go back to that.

1610
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: But now what happens. You're down twenty one to seven.

1611
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: Game flow is against you, and to some degree, you

1612
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: might be thinking, we've run the ball so well. And

1613
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: I know this is always a fifty to fifty thing,

1614
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: it could go either way, but you've run the ball

1615
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 1: so well. Maybe Washington's going to adjust were down two scores,

1616
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: Perhaps they'll be a little softer against the pass, and

1617
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: we will have we will have pulled that defense up

1618
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: a little closer because of how well we've run the ball.

1619
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: You could make a case. With the game flow and

1620
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: with the alternate method of trying to move the ball

1621
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: to try to throw it more, you could make a case. Hey, look,

1622
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: the Giants scored on all three drives in the second half,

1623
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, scored seventeen points on

1624
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: three drives, and they would have had twenty one if

1625
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't for the offensive pass interfiearance but in the

1626
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: end zone. So I don't think there's any complaints about

1627
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: what the Giants did in the second half. Year They

1628
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: scored seventeen points on three drives, so you know.

1629
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 3: How efficiently they ran the football in the first half.

1630
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,520
Speaker 3: They only gave him seven points.

1631
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: Correct, And by the way, the Giants only had seven

1632
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: legit drives in this game because one of their eight

1633
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: was a kneel down situations. I mean drives of sixty, six,

1634
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: eighty and seventy four yards for the Giants on their

1635
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: last three possessions. He can't ask for much more than that.

1636
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 22: So I understand why they did what they did, and

1637
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 22: they were pretty successful doing planning.

1638
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: Have you heard complaints about this?

1639
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 22: Oh, there were people downstairs asking the players why you

1640
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 22: guys didn't run the ball more?

1641
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: No, no. See the press conference is that weird? Early

1642
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: they're asking coach, why didn't you throw it more in

1643
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: the first half? Oh? Really? Okay?

1644
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 22: Not not in the locker room there were there was

1645
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 22: some questions about the guys about why didn't you run

1646
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 22: it more?

1647
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would just ignore that. I

1648
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: think that's all silly season. I well, you know, anytime

1649
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: you lose, there's gonna be all kinds of questions about everything,

1650
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: even if they're not necessarily intelligent question Offensive play calling

1651
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: is not an issue in today, in this game. I mean,

1652
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: it's just not well, that's a play call is not

1653
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: a problem now.

1654
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 22: The thing though, I will say this John, the penalty

1655
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 22: obviously a very unclutched time to get called for the

1656
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 22: pick because it cost you a touchdown.

1657
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: And I did not think that was an offensive pass

1658
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: in the appearance called myself, but I think there was

1659
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: contact not initiated by Darius Layton. I'm not so sure.

1660
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was questionable. I thought that was a

1661
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: bad call, to be honest with you. You know, fine,

1662
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: I always defend the officiating, and I try to find

1663
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: you why somethings a call you do. Always do that

1664
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: and fans get mad at me for it.

1665
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 4: I know I was playing linebacker, I'd have been looking

1666
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 4: at the riffle. He picked me.

1667
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: He picked me. Yeah, it was. It was. It was

1668
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 1: debatable in my opinion, but here's what I was. Slayton

1669
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: was just running around. The guy ran into him.

1670
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 3: Now I thought he I thought he did a great

1671
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 3: job in what he was supposed to do because it's

1672
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 3: a rub route for a reason.

1673
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's named the rub route.

1674
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: You're supposed to do that, and it's supposed to look

1675
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 3: like what Slayton did, and they usually don't call it when.

1676
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: The right correct because he ran the rub like you're

1677
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: told to.

1678
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 3: Yes, but it was he didn't run into him like

1679
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 3: we've seen and guys to literally put the guys, here's.

1680
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: Here's the point. Here's the point.

1681
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 22: Though, you're absolutely right, there's sometimes that that's going to

1682
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 22: be called and a lot of times when it's not.

1683
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: Going to be called. Yeah, but this is the part

1684
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: of the problem with the Giants in twenty twenty four.

1685
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: They are the most unclutched teams that we have seen

1686
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: in a long time, because when they need the play

1687
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: and they've got to make the play, there seems to

1688
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: be something that short circuits, a penalty, a sack, a turnover,

1689
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, missed field goal, a missfield goal. I mean

1690
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: something something goes wrong in the most inopportune time. All right,

1691
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: let's go to Russ and Norwalk, Connecticut. He's up next, Hi, Russ, and.

1692
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 5: Might call guys and crew there, Paul Patino, John the

1693
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 5: linebacker for the Giants. I appreciate your time, guys. Let

1694
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 5: me let me tell you why I'm Paul. I called

1695
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 5: earlier in the season that's a frustrated oh and two,

1696
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 5: and now I'm calling it two and seven. I'm just annoyed. Okay,

1697
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 5: here's why I'm annoyed. And Bob Popo does a great job.

1698
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 5: They scored a touchdown. Okay, to go down again, go

1699
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 5: down eight points. What does he do He's already zero

1700
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,480
Speaker 5: for four on the season going for two point conversions.

1701
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 5: He ruins all the momentum by trying a two point

1702
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 5: conversion there instead of kicking the damn extra point and

1703
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 5: going down seven. And then, like Bob said, if we

1704
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 5: get another TV, then you could decide you want to

1705
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 5: go for the win or take the tie. I am

1706
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 5: sitting Russ.

1707
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: If you don't know Russ I'm just telling you, if

1708
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: you do it your way, you don't have the math advantage.

1709
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: That way, you have the math advantage, the chance to

1710
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: go for.

1711
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 5: You don't give you don't give the other team momentum

1712
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 5: back you. You basically cut it to seven. And that's

1713
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 5: why are you going for two? Why are you going

1714
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 5: for to Russ?

1715
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: I will happily explain the Matthew right now, hang with me,

1716
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you a question first before

1717
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,839
Speaker 1: I explain the math. Do you think if the Giants

1718
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 1: convert the two point conversion there, the Giants defense gets

1719
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: a stop.

1720
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 5: I have no idea. I have no idea.

1721
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: They don't because they don't, because they didn't get to

1722
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: stop the whole second half.

1723
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 4: John, John, John, you don't know that though I hear

1724
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 4: his point.

1725
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: No, I'm here with his point came out. If you're

1726
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: the defense and you say, oh, if you remake the

1727
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: two point conversion, we have more energy, I don't want

1728
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 1: to hear that. That's nonsense.

1729
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,879
Speaker 5: He does Pop Poppa, who I love, who's followed football

1730
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 5: for fifty years. As as Carl Banks. I don't give

1731
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 5: a hoot about analytics. You take the extra point, you

1732
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 5: stay with him? Seven I don't care what the new

1733
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 5: protocol is on that. He's already lost doing that twice

1734
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 5: this year and again now we can't win games. Listen,

1735
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 5: hold on my point. I why caued one? No, that's

1736
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 5: that bosible more than anything, because he hasn't learned. We

1737
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 5: haven't learned from these same mistakes that we're making. As

1738
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 5: a head coach. We haven't learned, and that's what I'm pist,

1739
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 5: I'm picked off about. We haven't learned and we still

1740
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 5: haven't learned it. Two and seven. This is a much

1741
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 5: better team than the last twenty five games. They're eight

1742
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 5: and seventeen or worse in their in their in their career.

1743
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 5: Here in the last twenty five thirty games, we got

1744
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 5: a winning percentage of thirty percent with an all times

1745
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 5: defensive lineman on our team and in Dexter Lawrenson, all

1746
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 5: kinds defensive player by the way, So you know what, guys, Sorry,

1747
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 5: I'm tired of hearing excuses for this head coach, and

1748
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 5: I'm tired of hearing that it's all on Daniel Jones too.

1749
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 5: This is on the head coach. He runs the team.

1750
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 1: Now that's the finish, go ahead rush, you know, real

1751
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: quick if your point is you've shown you cannot convert

1752
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: those two point conversions, so you should ditch the strategy.

1753
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: I understand your point on that that I can't argue

1754
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: past performers on those two point conversion and you don't

1755
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: think you can make them. I understand your argument on

1756
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: that point of it, but that's not the way I

1757
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: don't think the team and the coach is going to

1758
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: think about it. They think and I will explain the

1759
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: math to you. Now hang with us, don't connor leave

1760
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: them up. I'll explain the Mathew rush just so you

1761
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: understand why they're doing what they're doing. Okay, And I

1762
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: tried to explain this during halftime to earlier in the

1763
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: post game to JC. So if you kick two extra

1764
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: points there and theoretically you have a tie game, right,

1765
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: you're going into overtime. Let's assume you make fifty to

1766
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 1: fifty chances and you have BIB go ahead. Let's say

1767
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,560
Speaker 1: let's say you have a fifty to fifty chance to

1768
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: win an overtime right, depending on coin toss, who gets

1769
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: the ball, who knows it's a coin foot, who knows

1770
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: who went over time? You got a fifty to fifty

1771
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 1: shot right now. Theoretically, and again, this belies your point

1772
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 1: about the Giants' inability to convert two point conversions. Historically,

1773
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: the two point conversion play around the league is a

1774
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: fifty percent play. Okay, you make it half the time,

1775
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: you fail half the time. Last year, I believe Paul

1776
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: is actually closer to sixty percent. Make correct. We talked

1777
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: about this during the week. So if you go for

1778
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: it on both two point conversion attempts, right, you have

1779
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: a and again I'll even make it a fifty percent shot.

1780
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: If you make it on the first one, you've got

1781
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty shot. That means on half your

1782
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: opportunities in that situation you win the game outright with

1783
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: that overtime half the time. Okay, if you miss it

1784
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: on the first two point conversion attempt, you have fifty

1785
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: percent of your chances, where on the second touchdown you

1786
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: can go for two. Again, in this theoretical world, you

1787
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: have a fifty to fifty chance of making it, So

1788
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: you then have a twenty five percent chance of losing outright,

1789
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 1: a twelve and a half percent chance of going to overtime,

1790
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: and a sixty two and a half percent chance of winning. Well,

1791
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: if you kick the extra point both times, you're looking

1792
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: at a fifty to fifty shot. That's the math behind

1793
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: the double two point conversion. But again that's assuming you

1794
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: have a fifty to fifty shot of making the two

1795
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 1: point conversion. That has not been the case for the Giants.

1796
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: So hard the shit, and.

1797
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 4: I guarantee you, I guarantee you, smoky.

1798
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: Use I get that. Thank you for the call, man,

1799
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: good call, good points.

1800
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 3: Not one player in that locker room give a damn

1801
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 3: bo what you just said.

1802
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: No but that, but that's what the players on. They

1803
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: hire very smart people to help the head coach, not.

1804
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 3: With you, because Bob said, analytics are important, but it's

1805
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 3: also important about your team and understanding what's going on

1806
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 3: on that field.

1807
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: But look, I'll say this jac the bottom line, even

1808
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: if they make they kick the extra points twice, you're

1809
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: still losing twenty seven to twenty four.

1810
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 3: No, but no, but this is the thing, and this

1811
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 3: is what you don't understand because you keep saying no

1812
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,759
Speaker 3: to me, and I'm telling you that's not the case.

1813
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 3: When when momentum is a real thing, you score a

1814
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 3: touchdown and you fail a two point conversion, there's there's

1815
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 3: energy that gets sucks out, sucked out of here, and

1816
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 3: then players defensively. I said it because I played in

1817
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 3: the NFL, and I said, why we didn't just kick

1818
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: a field goal? You don't think other defenders that play

1819
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 3: for the Giants said the same thing.

1820
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: But you have to get a stop, whether or not

1821
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: you get the two point conversion or not.

1822
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 3: What the point is I'm trying to make It's not

1823
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 3: all about the stadium with the and then the moment

1824
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 3: in the stadium, the player saying why didn't we kick

1825
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 3: an extra point? When you have players and I'm thinking,

1826
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 3: because I'm a player, that's the first thing I said.

1827
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 3: I said it last week, I said it this week.

1828
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 3: I'm not that far from removed from being in that

1829
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: locker room, on that sideline. If other guys, If a

1830
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 3: group of guys are saying why are we why are

1831
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 3: we doing that? You're questioning You're questioning the team, you're

1832
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 3: questioning the coach. And I know I'm not far off

1833
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: from them, guys, but understand.

1834
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: What happens if you make it.

1835
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 21: No.

1836
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're talking about percentages. The percentages right now

1837
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 3: for the Giants is over. They're zero percent. I'm with you,

1838
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 3: if you get it. You get fired up, like all right,

1839
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 3: shooting out. They gotta go for something, a two point

1840
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: conversion because we're up by an extra point, and I

1841
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 3: get it, I get it.

1842
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 4: But just kick a field goal. Just kick a field goal.

1843
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: Let's play some kick an extra point, Let's play football,

1844
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: and let's play football.

1845
01:24:58,880 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 4: Baby.

1846
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,560
Speaker 1: Your point of view be is I don't have that

1847
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: point of view from the signs, so I appreciate where

1848
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: you're coming from that one hundred percent, fellas.

1849
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 22: Unfortunately, okay, unfortunately, my gripe is bigger than both of

1850
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 22: your gripes, because.

1851
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: Self proclaimed bigger gripe here.

1852
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 22: All right, what do you got, Well, you don't get

1853
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 22: the two, So it's twenty four to sixteen. If you

1854
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 22: get the two, it's twenty four eighteen. If you get

1855
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 22: the one point, it's twenty four to seventeen. Bottom line,

1856
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 22: third and nine for Washington from their own thirty eight

1857
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 22: and Eckler has fifteen yards of open space in every

1858
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 22: direction when he catches that that short pass over the

1859
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 22: middle and goes for twenty eight yards to the giants

1860
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 22: thirty six yard line. That had to be a busted cover.

1861
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to washing the tape on that

1862
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: one and on and on the zikaias player at the

1863
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 1: end to see what happened. Though, Yeah, I look the

1864
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: Eklo one first, though, the Eklo one first, which puts

1865
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: Washington on the other side of the fifty to me,

1866
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 1: to me, and with all the respect to the turning

1867
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: point that you picked earlier, John, to me, that's the

1868
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: gut punch. That's the gut punch, because you're down by

1869
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: one possession and that ball, that ball right there that

1870
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: passed to Eckler puts them at the Giants thirty six.

1871
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:16,520
Speaker 1: Now they're already.

1872
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 22: At field goal range, and in fact, they do wind

1873
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 22: up getting a field goal and going up by two

1874
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,719
Speaker 22: scores with three and a half minutes to go, and folks,

1875
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 22: the horses out of the barn and you're not catching them.

1876
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 5: You know.

1877
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: You talk about the important plays, right, individual plays over

1878
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: the course of the game. That's a monster one you score,

1879
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: you make you make it a one score game, and

1880
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 1: you're in a third and nine. That is a twenty

1881
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: conversion rate around the league, twice conversion rate at best.

1882
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: And that wasn't the only time in this game with

1883
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: the Giants got the Commanders a third and long JC

1884
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 1: and they failed to get the stop.

1885
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing that I think,

1886
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 3: that's what you're hearing from the defenders, right. I think

1887
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 3: they're doing I'm gonna say a good job. But they

1888
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 3: feel like they had they put themselves and pretty good

1889
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 3: opportunities throughout the flow of a game, and then they

1890
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 3: fail to capitalize at the times that they need to.

1891
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's like early in the game, stuff happens.

1892
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 3: You know, they're down twenty seven, twenty one and seven

1893
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 3: and a half time, but then you come back and

1894
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: don't allow to double dip, like you said, Paul, and

1895
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 3: you get a stop right away, and and and and

1896
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 3: then you just don't. They don't finish throughout the game,

1897
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 3: like throughout the game. It's like it doesn't really matter

1898
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 3: what happened the first half. It matters about those last

1899
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 3: two quarters and how you finish the game, because a

1900
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 3: lot of these games they come to to the last

1901
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 3: two possessions.

1902
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: Usually by the way, and how about how about we

1903
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: have this conversation, how about you just make a two

1904
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: point con.

1905
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 4: That'd be great too.

1906
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: That's allowed. Now, I get it, I get it. It's

1907
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: just to me two point one point zero points. I

1908
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 1: have to get to stop. The eclip play is the

1909
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: gut punch I see it. No matter what, no matter

1910
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: what happens, you have to get the defensive stop. That's it.

1911
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: You have to That's what they're doing it on two

1912
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: separate drives, getting a defensive stop when they needed it

1913
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: all right. Eight eight EIGHTHA eight one zero one nine.

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01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,240
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1920
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: here from elite neighbors in the locker room. That and

1921
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: a whole lot more as we continue on Giants Extra Point,

1922
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: Giants faull to the Commander's twenty seven to twenty two.

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01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,000
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01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,360
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01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:42,280
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1927
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:42,760
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1928
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Back here a Giants Extra Point, Giants Fall of the

1929
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: Commander's twenty seven to twenty two schmel Tatino Casias Moliee

1930
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 1: Neighbors was in the locker room after the game. Here's

1931
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: what he had to say, full, he's.

1932
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 11: Doing quite a few times today where you guys try

1933
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 11: to get the pass game going, but didn't look like

1934
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 11: there was a lot of room to operate in their

1935
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,799
Speaker 11: second ar're.

1936
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 9: You, uh, what quarter are you talking about?

1937
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 11: Well, in in the second half, you guys, we we

1938
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 11: get a couple of touchdowns, but it didn't seem like

1939
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 11: there was a lot of yards after the catch in

1940
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 11: the stations be cause they were they were pretty close

1941
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 11: to you guys.

1942
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 9: I mean that's their defense we got.

1943
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 20: We made players on the ball got handled to uh,

1944
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 20: we score touchdowns we had we passed the ball good.

1945
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 20: So I mean, of course its the NFL is gonna

1946
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 20: be bang bang plays.

1947
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 16: So you know, frustrating, this was far so lose those

1948
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 16: funny straight and just not finishing.

1949
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 9: I think it's frustrating for everybody. I mean, nobody wanna lose.

1950
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 20: I mean, we played this game so we don't lose,

1951
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 20: but I mean it comes with the territory that the

1952
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 20: game that we play we gonna lose. You just gotta

1953
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 20: find a way to win. I mean, it's as frustrating

1954
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 20: as it gets you. We still gotta find out way

1955
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 20: to win.

1956
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 16: How are you finding it as someone like your rookie

1957
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 16: year coming out from a program with success just coming

1958
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 16: How are you finding it as a rookie just coming

1959
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:54,879
Speaker 16: from a program with success.

1960
01:29:55,080 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 9: We're I mean it's new. I mean, but I wouldn't

1961
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 9: I wouldn't wanna.

1962
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 20: I would I would rather wanna be coming up and

1963
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 20: try to win than going to somebody just winning and

1964
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 20: not producing. So I mean you gotta get it from

1965
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 20: the ground up. I mean, I'd rather come from the

1966
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 20: mud like I did regularly. So I mean it feels

1967
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 20: better when you come from the mud and you start

1968
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:16,440
Speaker 20: winning successfully.

1969
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 11: The shake and drive you guys took a lot of

1970
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 11: running and what with the shiverty, your aunt ability, you

1971
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 11: wanted to drive.

1972
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 4: Whatch you mean?

1973
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 9: First first quarter?

1974
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 11: First quarter? Yeah, courst quad Yeah. Uh what kind of

1975
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 11: emotional with the boys out at that point? Did you

1976
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 11: think it was gonna be a better day for the

1977
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 11: offense from that point?

1978
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't call players, so I mean.

1979
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1980
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 20: I mean, I mean, when you run the clock out

1981
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 20: in the first half. I mean you scratching in the

1982
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,799
Speaker 20: second half to try to score points as may as possible.

1983
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 7: Uh All.

1984
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,560
Speaker 20: As a offense, you gotta be versatile. You gotta be

1985
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 20: able to run, you gotta be able to pass. You

1986
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 20: can't pick between half and half what you wanna do.

1987
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 20: But like I said, I'm not to play card, I'll work.

1988
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 16: M Do you think you you mentioned you'd rather be

1989
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 16: up the program that's you know, coming from the ground up.

1990
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 16: Do you think this like the where things are at

1991
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 16: now and can still do that here?

1992
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 9: Or I mean yeah, you just gotta build. I mean

1993
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 9: you gotta build up. You gotta put the.

1994
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 20: Right people in place to be successful. You gotta get

1995
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 20: the right keys. You gotta get the right guys on

1996
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 20: the team to win. I mean obviously the Commanders have

1997
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 20: done that. I mean they got the right guys that

1998
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 20: they wanna be on the team and they winning.

1999
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 9: Would you in your junior had a woe catching up

2000
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 9: or catching up? Yup? Catching up? What'd you think of

2001
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 9: how we played the couples? I don't know. He play

2002
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 9: nothing different. I mean, be this team to win. He

2003
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,440
Speaker 9: gonna do it. Every time you step up on the field.

2004
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 11: Did you stay in the slide wine after that one bash,

2005
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 11: the oh for long tam.

2006
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 9: Now, well you know what was you caught more?

2007
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 11: There were forty of the sideline right in front of

2008
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 11: the bench, and you came jumping off the bench and

2009
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 11: sent something to.

2010
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 16: You because the DPI on Italy is, oh, I honest,

2011
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 16: see what you said.

2012
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Eight oh eight one zero one nine. Let's go back

2013
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: to the phones. Justin and Dobbs Ferry has been holding

2014
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 1: the longest. Let's get to Justin. What's up Justin?

2015
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 23: Hey, what's going on? Going back to the analytics, just

2016
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 23: going back on a different you know point. The Giants

2017
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 23: are scoring fourteen touchdowns in the whole and you know

2018
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 23: in the entire you know, NFL low one of the

2019
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 23: second lowest in the league. They're averaging one touchdown every

2020
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 23: forty eight plays, compared to like Ravens are averaging one

2021
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 23: touchdown every fourteen plays. Like you can't get the ball

2022
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 23: in the end, so you don't have any plays to

2023
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 23: get the ball in the end, So stop trying to

2024
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 23: do that. You know, with I understand the analytics, you

2025
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 23: get ten more percent. That's with a real team. What

2026
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 23: a team like this, we're barely getting in the end zone,

2027
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 23: and we when we do, half the time they get

2028
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 23: taken back and on bs like uh you know, pass

2029
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 23: interference or or tick plays. So it's like they got

2030
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 23: to figure out a way to get this ball in

2031
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 23: the end.

2032
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 5: So these are the worst.

2033
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 23: The last three two point conversions were the worst two

2034
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 23: going covererson that I saw in the NFL probably in

2035
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 23: five years.

2036
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: Look justin You're right. Look, they have to execute in

2037
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: the appreciate the call. They have to execute in those

2038
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: two point situations better. You know, the strategy goes out

2039
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 1: the window if you actually execute the place, which you

2040
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: have not been able to do. Let's go to Joe

2041
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 1: and all, but he's up next.

2042
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 24: Hey Joe, Yes, Ty, you guys have a great show.

2043
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 24: I've been the season ticket holding for thirty four years.

2044
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 24: I just have a quick question and a comment. My

2045
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 24: question is do you think Zones would raise his would

2046
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 24: would waive his injuries close so he can continue playing

2047
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 24: and prove himself to the league. And my comment is

2048
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 24: on the two point conversions, it seems it would only

2049
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 24: make sense for the Giants if their conversion rate is

2050
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 24: fifty percent of great or other than that, it wouldn't

2051
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 24: make sense no.

2052
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: Look, and that's fair if you don't believe that they can,

2053
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: you know, succeed on those two point conversions. I understand

2054
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: why your opinion would be that way, but that's not

2055
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: when your coach and your game planning this stuff. You're

2056
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna have confidence and you guys to create those conversions.

2057
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 1: And that's the way the players think about it too.

2058
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: They think that they can do this, not gonna think

2059
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 1: about failing before they make those attempts. As for the

2060
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: injury cut thing, I mean, you negotiate that to your

2061
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 1: contracts for a reason. I would guess you would not

2062
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: be a meedable too taking that out. But that that's

2063
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: something that he would have to have that conversation and

2064
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 1: his agent with the Giants front office. So I don't

2065
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:16,560
Speaker 1: have a really an answer for you.

2066
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeh, foolish to do that.

2067
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: And that's the player's perspective, which I would then would

2068
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: be think with what the player perspective would be. All right,

2069
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: let's take another quick time out. We'll come back with

2070
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 1: from Deontay Banks. May well squeeze in another call or

2071
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: two on Giants extra point. Giants followed the Commander's twenty

2072
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: seven to twenty two.

2073
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:37,560
Speaker 6: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

2074
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 6: Radio Network.

2075
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 4: This is Tyrone Tracy Jr.

2076
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 21: And you're listening to the radio home of Big Blue

2077
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 21: the Fan, w FAN and w f AN FM, New York.

2078
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 1: Back here on Giants Extra Point. Giants fall out of

2079
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: the Commander's twenty seven to twenty two. Guys, we want

2080
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: to take a positive out of this second straight week.

2081
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: The Giants ran the ball extremely well, Paul led by

2082
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: Tyron Tracy.

2083
01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 22: Tyron Tracy coming off of concussion protocol and you'll remember

2084
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 22: John here, we're during the week at practice. We're waiting

2085
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 22: to see how's he going to recover? When is he

2086
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 22: going to get out of the protocol? A short week

2087
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 22: from a Monday night game. Yes, I mean, he got

2088
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 22: hurt in the Steelers game and we truly had no

2089
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 22: idea what to expect.

2090
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: And then when we see that he's out there with

2091
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: the red jersey on Thursday, we're like, well, wow, all right,

2092
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: that's one step away from being able to be cleared.

2093
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 1: And then Friday gets out there and Coach Stables says

2094
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: he's going to practice today. He's got the red jersey off,

2095
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: which is the non contact Jersey. He's back in regular

2096
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: practice gear and if things go well today at practice,

2097
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: he's going to go to the medical examiner, and if

2098
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: they clear him, we gotta go and lo and behold.

2099
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 1: It works out, and Tracy, in my opinion, ran as

2100
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: well as he ever has.

2101
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 22: I know the numbers are only a modest sixteen carries

2102
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 22: for sixty six yards, but look what he did in

2103
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 22: the first quarter when he ran for almost fifty yards

2104
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 22: by himself. Wasn't one man wrecking crew. I'm impressed with

2105
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 22: the way that he came back off of concussion protocol

2106
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 22: and did not show any tentativeness at all.

2107
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looked great.

2108
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 3: You know, he's definitely a player that I think he

2109
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 3: continuously surprises me. We talked a little bit before about

2110
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 3: him and you know his receiving background, and he looks

2111
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 3: like a running back. I saw him when I saw

2112
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 3: him in person for the first time. You know, he

2113
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 3: got you know, nice you know legs on him, you know,

2114
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 3: like running backs do in the NFL. And today he

2115
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 3: ran hard, he ran physical. It wasn't too many times

2116
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 3: where he got to the second level, you know, which

2117
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 3: we talked about in the pregame, where he can make

2118
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 3: a move on the linebacker, make a move on the safety.

2119
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were dirty yards here.

2120
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 4: They were dirty yards. They were tough yards.

2121
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 3: I mean his longest run was only ten yards today,

2122
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 3: you know, and everything else was just him lowering his shoulder,

2123
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 3: churning those legs.

2124
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 4: You know.

2125
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 3: I think you saw that a lot from Eckler and

2126
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 3: what they did on that side. Washington too. Washington got

2127
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 3: a lot of dirty yards too, you know. So, uh,

2128
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 3: you know this this guy, Tracy Man, he's a young kid.

2129
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 3: He's I think he's talented, you know. And he only

2130
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 3: had one game in more than twenty carries and that

2131
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,560
Speaker 3: was last week and he rushed for one hundred and

2132
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 3: forty five yards. So you know, I look to see

2133
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 3: him being, you know, a staple for the Giants and

2134
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 3: returning after a concussion. You never know, you know, the

2135
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 3: tour is like the big thing that everybody talks about.

2136
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 3: He's going on this third one and then olave. I know,

2137
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 3: I think he had another one today. He got another

2138
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 3: one to three on the year or something like that.

2139
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,520
Speaker 3: You never know what happens with with these with these concussions.

2140
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,879
Speaker 3: Sometimes you can the next day you feel okay. Sometimes

2141
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 3: it take a month. Sometimes it takes two three months.

2142
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:39,799
Speaker 1: Every concussion is different.

2143
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 3: This guy, David Thomas Man was a Texans excuse me,

2144
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 3: a Texas WIBs tight end, excuse me. Then he came

2145
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 3: to the Saints. He had a really serious concussion. He

2146
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 3: had to retire from it. But he couldn't be out

2147
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 3: in the daylight for a long time. He couldn't be

2148
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 3: in the indoor with you knowscence, with the no with

2149
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 3: the sound. He could not practice at all. He couldn't

2150
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 3: be in the indoor at all. He couldn't be under

2151
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 3: the bright sunlight. Couldn't do that for I'm talking about

2152
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 3: for a very long time. And he ended up retiring.

2153
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 1: Good news for the Giants.

2154
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 22: The reports after the game with that Smith Moore set

2155
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 22: was cleared. Yeah, from a possible concussion, did go in

2156
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 22: the slate, did go into the protocols, like one out

2157
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 22: of the two pieces were cleared.

2158
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 3: One of those guys might be able to be fine

2159
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 3: right now tomorrow, you know, or you know, it might

2160
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 3: be the long thing. You just never know what these concussions,

2161
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 3: you know, fingers crossed for slating. Hopefully it's you know,

2162
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 3: not big, you know, severe at all. He's back he's fine.

2163
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 3: He's healthy. His you know, his brain is fine. He's

2164
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 3: remembering everything, he's talking. He could be outside all of

2165
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 3: that good stuff because can't take these things lightly. We're

2166
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 3: just happy that, you know, Tracy came back and the

2167
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 3: two guys that went down to that. Hopefully it's not

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Speaker 3: that serious.

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Speaker 1: All right. One did from Deontay Banks. He was involved

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Speaker 1: in a couple of those key plays late in the

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Speaker 1: first half in this game. I want to hear from

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Speaker 1: Deontay Banks after this game talking about that touchdown he

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Speaker 1: gave up the Terry mcgaard.

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Speaker 9: Let's you see on the first touchdown right now too?

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Speaker 7: Wanna a cool look.

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Speaker 13: Short but one or two yard one?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 9: It was just a little slat a yacht inslant.

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Speaker 4: He's gotta be better there.

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Speaker 9: Were you expecting any helping at all?

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Speaker 4: Or is that all you?

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Speaker 14: Then?

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01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 25: He's a bad play by the defensive He's a bous

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01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 25: bad play by me.

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Speaker 13: What about the second pitch down the right?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 25: Me, I just gotta be better there, I just gotta

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Speaker 25: I just gotta be better.

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Speaker 4: Did he just get behind you there or yeah?

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Speaker 25: He kind of like, uh, I just gotta be better.

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Speaker 4: There is that is that did you know.

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Speaker 9: You playing like that little double movie makes there?

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Speaker 4: I mean, is that something you don't he didn't expect

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Speaker 4: him to do? Or I mean kind of did the

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Speaker 4: little cut?

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Speaker 25: I mean not really, but like I was trying to

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Speaker 25: like I was most so trying to use my contact

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Speaker 25: to my help, and I kind of like he got

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Speaker 25: behind me using the contact. So I just gotta be

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Speaker 25: better there.

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Speaker 13: Why was it so hard for you guys just in

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Speaker 13: general to stop.

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01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 4: Them on the whole day?

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Speaker 17: They just see, well, pray do it makes it so

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Speaker 17: hard to stop him.

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Speaker 7: You know you shoul gotta be better.

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Speaker 25: He gotta be my guys, it's gotta be better as

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Speaker 25: a unit.

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Speaker 9: How frustrating is it they think they punted on the

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Speaker 9: entire game.

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Speaker 25: To not be able to Oh, it's frustrating on defense.

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01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 25: But they got me straight, it's gotta be better. We'll

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Speaker 25: be better next week.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll just say, you can't contact the guy that

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01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,839
Speaker 1: far down the field any legal contact. No, he suppose

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01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: you're at the end of the half. Just tackle the guy.

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01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 1: I even think about that, right, once he's getting past

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01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: you just pull him down. I just pull him down.

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01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: They have to kick the fugal. I didn't even think

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01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 1: about that part of the play.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think the slant, the one yard slant for

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Speaker 22: the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, how how ironic is this? Right?

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01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,639
Speaker 22: McLaurin only on the game catches two passes and both

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Speaker 22: of them go for touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Total them only nineteen yards. But they're daggers, right. The

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01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: thing that bothered.

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Speaker 22: Me, Jonathan and I were sitting up in the box

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Speaker 22: on the on the little slant that he caught for

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01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 22: the one yard touchdown. And the thing that bothered Jonathan

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01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 22: and I both is that he's up on him up

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Speaker 22: at the line. And we've seen Banks get beaten on

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01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 22: that same slant now three times for touchdowns on the

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01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 22: course of the season. And the troubling part is you'm

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01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 22: playing man, you're in press, and you don't jam him

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Speaker 22: at the line. If he just gets a good jam

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01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 22: on him at the line, Remember, you got five yards.

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01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 1: To do what you want to do to him. If

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Speaker 1: you give him a tight jam at the line, then

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01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 1: he doesn't get that free two step release to cut

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01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 1: it inside and slant you. And that's what doesn't make

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01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: sense to me, Jonathan and No.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is he keeps saying we got to

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01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 3: get better but like you said, he's seen that play

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01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 3: time and time and again.

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01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 4: Like he's seen that exact play.

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Speaker 1: And he's a physical player. He's a physical player, So

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01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: beat him up at the line. Beat him up.

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Speaker 3: You you said, get better, but you have to learn.

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01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 3: That's how you get better. You learn from your mistakes.

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01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 3: He's made the same as That's why when we talked

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01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 3: about it earlier, I was more mad about that play

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01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 3: than the other play. I understand why you were mad

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Speaker 3: about the sluggle biting on us the situation very much.

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Speaker 20: So.

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Speaker 3: Fuck now, this is a play that you've seen plenty

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01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 3: of times. You're lining up against the top receiver in

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01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 3: the NFL. There's two routes he's gonna row. It's a

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01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 3: now route like inside right now. It's not even a slant.

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01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 3: It's a right now slant. Or it's a fade.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 3: And if you have another receiver next to you and

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Speaker 3: y'all on the same level as a defender, is.

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Speaker 1: There if you're playing man, there is there any reason

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Speaker 1: not to be physical with the want of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, bro, you gotta remember I can't. I

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Speaker 3: was in the Super Bowl. Well, Malcolm Butler made that

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01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 3: play If Malcolm Butler wasn't physical, that would have been

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01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 3: a whole different play for the for the Patriots. I

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01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 3: was in that game.

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Speaker 4: That was me.

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Speaker 3: I played in that game. Malcolm Butler was physical. Brandon

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01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 3: Browner was physical. He drove on the play like you

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01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 3: have to be physical down there. You can't just allow

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01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 3: people to run freely. These receivers in the NFL are

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01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 3: super talented. They're amazing wide receivers. You cannot allow them

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01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 3: to get free releases down there because you don't have

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01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 3: time to recover.

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Speaker 22: The one thing that this league gives you as a

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Speaker 22: defensive player is physicality in the first five yards.

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Speaker 1: That's all they give you. Use it they give you.

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Speaker 1: All Right, guys, we're off to Germany. Paul, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: stay back. I know you're gonna be very regretful you're

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Speaker 1: not making another overseas trip. I know you love going

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Speaker 1: over to Europe and your heartbroken about it. Have appeer

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Speaker 1: I will be doing a lot of that, but I

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Speaker 1: will represent the Giants podcast in radio group very well

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Speaker 1: there in Germany, Guys, good stuff. Appreciate today, We'll betty.

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Speaker 1: Next week, Jac, you'll be here and I'll be talking

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