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Speaker 2: The Detroit Lyons are in action against the Green Bay
Speaker 2: Packers Thursday night is done well. It used to be
Speaker 2: that was sort of the you know, a rest stop
Speaker 2: there for the NFL, be like all right to Wasteland.
Speaker 3: You know, yes, Marvin, that was.
Speaker 4: For the AFC South Titans Jaguars or NFC South as well.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I got a big game coming up Thursday
Speaker 2: night on Amazon, the divisional rivalry. It'll be Justin Herbert
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Speaker 2: of NBA coming up, the NBA Cup, the Nicks or
Speaker 2: the prohibitive favorite to win the NBA Cup. In case
Speaker 2: you care, where do you put that banner or that trophy.
Speaker 2: Do you get a banner? Do you get a trophy
Speaker 2: or you just get a boatload of money.
Speaker 5: Didn't the Lakers when it last year? Did they raise
Speaker 5: the banner?
Speaker 3: I think so?
Speaker 2: And then Barkley said that he was going to make
Speaker 2: fun of them if they were going to raise the banner.
Speaker 3: How about like as.
Speaker 5: You enter the building, you know, somewhere in the breezeway,
Speaker 5: as you enter the arena, you put it up because
Speaker 5: it's not worthy of inside the arena with all Lakers
Speaker 5: got a lot of banners.
Speaker 2: And did you see they're going to do a statue
Speaker 2: of Phil Jackson that if you're doing pat Riley, you
Speaker 2: got to do Phil Jackson, Yes, Marvin or yes Eton.
Speaker 6: The thing about tournaments like that they would mean something
Speaker 6: if we just said they meant something.
Speaker 3: Well, the NBA is trying to make us say that
Speaker 3: it means something.
Speaker 6: But if you look at across all sports, we have
Speaker 6: titles that should mean something that don't like winning the
Speaker 6: Pennant and baseball doesn't really mean anything anymore. Yeah, winning
Speaker 6: the SEC Championship this year doesn't really mean anything anymore.
Speaker 6: Those are all things that should mean something, but they
Speaker 6: really don't mean anything. Anymore, mostly because we just keep
Speaker 6: saying that doesn't really mean anything anymore. It should be important,
Speaker 6: it should be something that matters.
Speaker 2: Well, we keep saying winning the Sports Emmy doesn't really
Speaker 2: matter anymore because we're not gonna win a Sports Emmy.
Speaker 6: I don't say no. You keep saying that because you
Speaker 6: got fifteen of them. The rest of us losers are like, Hey,
Speaker 6: it'd be cool to get one because we've been doing
Speaker 6: this damn show for twenty years.
Speaker 2: It'd be awesome to come away with one of them.
Speaker 2: You guys will get one posthumously. When I die, you
Speaker 2: guys will get one. They're gonna bring you out. They're
Speaker 2: gonna play clips from the show.
Speaker 6: They're gonna give you another one and be like, hey,
Speaker 6: and you guys can come too if you want.
Speaker 3: No, No, that's the way.
Speaker 2: That's no. No, I'm buying you guys posthumously. I'm buying
Speaker 2: you guys sports Temmys. There's other shows that buy a
Speaker 2: sports Yes, we should do that. Wow, give him back, right,
Speaker 2: the mothership had to give him.
Speaker 3: Let's get to Levatar.
Speaker 2: Dan Levatard, popular host of The Dan Levatard Show on
Speaker 2: Peacock with his good buddy Stu Gotts and the voice
Speaker 2: of Miami's sports Dan Levatard, joins us on the program.
Speaker 3: How are you, Dan?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 7: It is lovely to see you. As always.
Speaker 4: I have said through tears a number of different times
Speaker 4: here how much I loved and admire you.
Speaker 7: But keeping me waiting so that Setan can talk. Who
Speaker 7: the hell lets their producers talk so much? And you
Speaker 7: would keep.
Speaker 4: Me waiting after they call me during our show to say, hey,
Speaker 4: Dan needs you immediately, And I'm like, yeah, but I'm
Speaker 4: doing my show, and you know, I admire him and
Speaker 4: we're partners, but I'm doing my show.
Speaker 7: And then they say this, this was the killer. He's
Speaker 7: got five minutes for you. Five minutes.
Speaker 4: I'm like, does he know how many people I have
Speaker 4: who want to talk about the thing that he wants
Speaker 4: to ask me about right here? Because all of my
Speaker 4: producers want to yell about what just happened yesterday with
Speaker 4: Alabama getting into this and Miami being left out, And
Speaker 4: I got Stu Gotts next to me, and all he's
Speaker 4: saying is make sure to tell him.
Speaker 7: Ste gottsbook dot com. Thank you stegottsbook dot com.
Speaker 4: He's very happy that you're having him on to promote
Speaker 4: his book that is a national bestseller right now that
Speaker 4: he didn't write or read himself.
Speaker 3: He's actually having you on to promote it. He's not
Speaker 3: having me on. He didn't ask me to come on.
Speaker 7: He asked you to come on. And you're doing a
Speaker 7: great job so far.
Speaker 3: Keep promoting it, Dan, know, I.
Speaker 2: Mean we're down to two and a half minutes now,
Speaker 2: scotsbook dot Com. Yeah, how's Miami football? How's morale down
Speaker 2: there South Beach Town?
Speaker 7: Didn't you want to see Miami?
Speaker 4: Didn't you want to see cam Ward and the best
Speaker 4: offense in the country in a shootout? Didn't or did
Speaker 4: you just want a grandfather in Alabama?
Speaker 8: On this man?
Speaker 2: No? No, I got to see Miami against Syracuse, so
Speaker 2: I already got to see them.
Speaker 7: Okay, but how about Alabama against Oklahoma six and six?
Speaker 4: Did you see that on Oklahoma that lost by twenty
Speaker 4: to LSU, that lost just recently.
Speaker 7: With Oklahoma twenty four to three.
Speaker 3: Dan, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 2: But if Miami beats Syracuse, Miami beats Georgia Tech, then
Speaker 2: we don't have this discussion. Then we don't have to
Speaker 2: bring in Alabama. Dan, just beat Syracuse, beat Syracuse.
Speaker 7: That is right. I can't argue that I.
Speaker 2: Would love to see Miami against Notre Dame in South Bend, Dan,
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick, you are.
Speaker 7: A students always if Miami were undefeated, they would be in.
Speaker 7: That is correct?
Speaker 3: Or no, I'm saying beat Georgia Tech right, beat.
Speaker 4: Syracusegreed, agreed to fewer losses and they're in.
Speaker 7: That's is absolutely.
Speaker 2: You can put your snark to the side, just like
Speaker 2: Miami put him to the side out of the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And then I'm just trying to have a rational discussion.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's all trying to do.
Speaker 4: Greg Cody wants to get in here, and he wants
Speaker 4: to get in here with sports conversation, and I want
Speaker 4: to get him in here reading fifty Shades of Greg?
Speaker 3: So which would he also has book to promote?
Speaker 7: What would you what would you prefer you have?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2: I'm not reading an obscene passage from a from a book.
Speaker 3: I know I'm not doing that. I gotta draw the line.
Speaker 7: So, okay, oh here it is fifty Shades of Greg.
Speaker 3: It's not happening.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm sorry, Dan, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, I already did. I mean I just you should
Speaker 3: be confused.
Speaker 9: Yes there is.
Speaker 7: That's is Damn.
Speaker 2: All I was looking for, was ya you call yourself
Speaker 2: the Pope of South Beach. That's all I was trying
Speaker 2: to do is let you pontificate and tell me about Miami.
Speaker 2: I told you if you beat Syracuse you're probably in.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 3: I didn't say you had to go underfeed.
Speaker 4: But then I have to make the argument. What I
Speaker 4: would say to you, Dan, if I'm making the argument, Okay,
Speaker 4: I know that people don't believe that Syracuse is any good.
Speaker 4: It's the best offensive, the best passing offense, most prolific
Speaker 4: one in in the sport, and nobody regards Syracuse as
Speaker 4: anything because they're busy regarding all the eight and three
Speaker 4: teams in the SEC as something greater than that. The
Speaker 4: argument I make on behalf of Miami, beyond you know
Speaker 4: that they can put their record up against Alabama, is
Speaker 4: that you keep telling me how soft that schedule is
Speaker 4: for Miami. But it would have three other top twenty
Speaker 4: five teams in it if Miami hadn't beaten those teams.
Speaker 7: This is about SEC reputation, I did. It's about Alabama reputation.
Speaker 2: I didn't say that their schedule was soft. I said,
Speaker 2: beat Georgia Tech and beat Syracuse. At what point did
Speaker 2: I say they're soft?
Speaker 7: A great? I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: Were you just said that.
Speaker 3: I said that they had a soft schedule?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 4: I did not what you're doing here with Georgia Tech
Speaker 4: and beat Syracuse. Okay, and Notre Dame beat Northern Illinois. Like,
Speaker 4: of course, we can make that argument on any team.
Speaker 4: I would tell Alabama beat Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Okay, But Notre Dame recovered from Northern Illinois and became
Speaker 2: a really, really consistent good team. Take them out of
Speaker 2: the equation. These losses just happened to Miami. It just
Speaker 2: happened last week. Timing is everything, Oh but you say,
Speaker 2: I am. I think Miami should be in Dan Dan.
Speaker 7: Timing is in everything, merit should be everything. Timing. You
Speaker 7: can't tell me.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter to me whether the games were at
Speaker 4: the end of the season or at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the season.
Speaker 7: It's a body of work. It's an entire schedule of work.
Speaker 4: Why play the games at early at all if you're
Speaker 4: going to only make the ones late are the ones
Speaker 4: that count?
Speaker 2: So should Notre Dame be kept down because they had
Speaker 2: one of the worst losses in all of college football
Speaker 2: with these top twelve teams.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying, Dan, Alabama lost. Dan, just
Speaker 3: listen to the question. No, no, no, Illinois.
Speaker 7: Hold on, I will answer it in a second.
Speaker 4: Oklahoma eleven days ago beat Alabama. Does everyone listening to
Speaker 4: this know how bad Oklahoma was this year? Twenty four
Speaker 4: to three is the most inexplicable result I have in
Speaker 4: the sport outside of Northern Illinois going and winning at
Speaker 4: Notre Dame and people forget about it. And you're talking
Speaker 4: to me about timing when I'm like, timing was eleven
Speaker 4: days ago.
Speaker 7: Don't think Miami was beating Wake Forest.
Speaker 2: Dan, I don't think Alabama should be in. I think,
Speaker 2: like you keep arguing the same thing. I'm agreeing with
Speaker 2: you that Miami should be in. I'm saying this is
Speaker 2: why they were probably kept out. Alabama's a brand. If
Speaker 2: this was O one, Miami would be in. They were
Speaker 2: a brand. They're not a brand anymore. That's part of this.
Speaker 2: It's a TV show. It's about entertainment. They want to
Speaker 2: Alabama still has a fan base, a big fan base,
Speaker 2: a big draw. We're agreeing with the same thing. I'm
Speaker 2: saying you lost to Syracuse. That probably hurts you with
Speaker 2: the recency bias.
Speaker 7: That's all.
Speaker 9: That's it.
Speaker 3: We're on the same page.
Speaker 4: I think we all agree that we all got into
Speaker 4: sports not for the scoreboard, but for timing and brand
Speaker 4: I agree with you timing and Brandy.
Speaker 7: That's right. That's how we should measure bodies colliding and
Speaker 7: killing themselves for money.
Speaker 10: Dan, The real problem here is Boise State. Get them
Speaker 10: the hell out of my college football playoff. That is
Speaker 10: what I want, Brands. I'm with you, Dan Patrick, Okay,
Speaker 10: I want Alabama, I want Miami. I want nothing to
Speaker 10: do with Boise State or un l V.
Speaker 9: Get him out.
Speaker 2: Do you want to get a plug in for your
Speaker 2: book to ste Gott's booked dot com. Appreciate your help
Speaker 2: with Are you.
Speaker 7: Sure you don't want the fifty Shades of Greg?
Speaker 4: I know it's awkward, Dan, it is you are, but
Speaker 4: you're interrupting what we were doing.
Speaker 3: Look, please say no, Dad, I have told you no.
Speaker 7: Thank you, No.
Speaker 3: Say man. I'd love to, but I'm up against a
Speaker 3: commercial break. Thank you That he should be.
Speaker 2: Damn Levatard is the Jake Paul of sports host. You
Speaker 2: know that's what you are. You're the Jake Paul of
Speaker 2: sports host. You should be ashamed. Okay, I mean I
Speaker 2: agree with you. Okay, ste Gott's booked dot com. You
Speaker 2: gave me five minutes. Greg wanted to talk two and
Speaker 2: a half. He took two and a half. I gave
Speaker 2: you even more than that he did. Why do we
Speaker 2: book him in the first place? Good God, all right,
Speaker 2: we move on. That's Dan Levitar. No, No, we're done.
Speaker 2: Stu Gott's book dot Com. Go Hurricanes? Who was what happened?
Speaker 5: They're frazzled this morning down there, the entire Miami crews.
Speaker 5: There are a lot of Miami folks on their staff.
Speaker 5: They are frazzled because of this college football.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, I was agreeing with Lebttard. He
Speaker 2: just wanted to stir something up. I'm just like Dan,
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Would I put Alabama in No,
Speaker 2: But they're a brand, Like let's be honest with what's
Speaker 2: in front of us.
Speaker 3: You may not like this, but it's real. They're a brand.
Speaker 2: Boise State. You may not like it. They did everything
Speaker 2: they were supposed to do. Now they have to beat
Speaker 2: unlv Arizona State. They did everything they were supposed to.
Speaker 2: You can't change the game. Hey, we're going to play
Speaker 2: a different game or change the instructions. All right, this
Speaker 2: is monopoly. You're moving around the board and you're making money.
Speaker 2: Your pass go and you keep going, you get another bowl.
Speaker 2: I mean that's what this is not.
Speaker 1: Kid.
Speaker 2: Anybody can't go, well, wait, why is there a little
Speaker 2: state and learn?
Speaker 3: Why is Boise?
Speaker 2: They did what they were supposed to do. You can't
Speaker 2: go wait Boise. Look, we're going to change the rules
Speaker 2: here now next year they should still do it where
Speaker 2: conference champions get in. But the rankings have to do
Speaker 2: with the rankings. Like you get to host a bowl game,
Speaker 2: a home game because of your rankings. It's really simple.
Speaker 2: You get in automatic berth if you want that. And
Speaker 2: then after that it's the rankings whether you're going to
Speaker 2: host a game or not, or you get a first
Speaker 2: round bhy. It's all fix that, cleaned up, ready to go.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, two things could be true at the same time.
Speaker 5: The Alabama loss to Oklahoma open up the door for
Speaker 5: a lot of teams to get in, and teams didn't
Speaker 5: take advantage of it. Ol miss blew it and they
Speaker 5: still have a great case and their resume is still
Speaker 5: really good.
Speaker 2: But I think Old Miss is one of the top
Speaker 2: ten teams in the country, great offense and might even
Speaker 2: be better than that and good enough to win a
Speaker 2: national championship.
Speaker 3: But you lost to Florida.
Speaker 5: The Miami Hurricanes are up three touchdowns twenty one zero
Speaker 5: to Syracuse. Is a decent team at home, and they
Speaker 5: opened the door to be screwed. They could be two things,
Speaker 5: could be right wrong at the same time or right
Speaker 5: at the same time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Who, I can't get those minutes back in my
Speaker 3: life with Levatard. Oh my gosh. At one point I go,
Speaker 3: what are we talking about?
Speaker 2: We're talking about books, We're talking about Alabama, and we're
Speaker 2: talking about stupid.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: It seemed like a good idea about twenty minutes ago,
Speaker 2: and I said, all right, Levitard, you know educated guy,
Speaker 2: you know, knowledgeable, loves the U. All right, we make
Speaker 2: bad decisions occasionally. Yeah, that was like Alabama. That was
Speaker 2: my Notre Dame Northern Illinois on the resume.
Speaker 6: Yes's funny is that what we should have done is
Speaker 6: if you just booked Stu Gotts, Yeah, I bet you.
Speaker 6: Dan wouldn't have come on at all. It would have
Speaker 6: just been Stu Gotts.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Dan would be like, go ahead, Stu Gounts,
Speaker 3: go ahead, promote.
Speaker 6: Your Boat's kind of the Stu Gotts Show with Dan Levittard. Wow,
Speaker 6: just saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now Levittart's you know, he's Jake Paul. He might
Speaker 2: be Logan Paul. Stu Gons might be Jake Paul.
Speaker 5: I always get confused at what the difference is of
Speaker 5: those two guys.
Speaker 3: Jake is the one who's he's a big time guy.
Speaker 3: He's the one who beat Tyson, so he fights more often.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he is engaged to Nina Agdahl the Sports
Speaker 2: Illustrated Swimsuit Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I think they're having a baby. Yeah,
Speaker 3: or maybe they had a baby.
Speaker 9: I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I mean I do, but I don't want to act
Speaker 2: like I know too much about Jake Paul. Okay, we
Speaker 2: have novem VP coming up. I think I got it,
Speaker 2: Did I get it right?
Speaker 9: Paul?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll have the NOVEMDP and Jason Garrett
Speaker 2: will join us coming up. We'll try to get some
Speaker 2: more phone calls in here as well.
Speaker 3: Hell, just happen. Well, take a break, We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: college football. You want to talk NFL football.
Speaker 9: You're in charge.
Speaker 2: You decide what if we use the college format, like
Speaker 2: when we ranked team teams in the NFL, and in
Speaker 2: accordance to that, you had playoff matchups, So the Chiefs
Speaker 2: could be playing somebody from you know, the NFC in
Speaker 2: the playoffs as opposed to the Apes, Like who's the
Speaker 2: number one seed? Who'd be the Oregon in the NFL?
Speaker 2: Right now, I still think Detroit's the Oregon. They've been
Speaker 2: really good, they've been dominant. The concern with them though,
Speaker 2: is the injury thing on defense. But that's a little
Speaker 2: bit of the Florida State argument from last year, right,
Speaker 2: you know, they win all their games, they put their
Speaker 2: backup in they continue to win.
Speaker 11: But you know, we don't think they're good enough. But
Speaker 11: I do think what they've done on the field over
Speaker 11: the course of the year. They're number one.
Speaker 2: It feels like the Eagles are an underdog story. It
Speaker 2: feels like Buffalo is an underdog story. How does that
Speaker 2: happen when you're two of the three best teams in
Speaker 2: the NFL right now?
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 11: How it happens, but they're both really good and I
Speaker 11: love I love what Philly's done. Philly is a really
Speaker 11: talented team across the board. If you look at their
Speaker 11: offensive line, their defensive line, their skill players, they're playmakers.
Speaker 11: Sakuan is an MVP candidate for me, and it's amazing
Speaker 11: what they've done. If you think about ten and one
Speaker 11: last year and then an epics slide, they were horrendous
Speaker 11: at the end of last year and there were some
Speaker 11: real issues in that organization and for them to write
Speaker 11: the ship like they have started two and two this year.
Speaker 11: But I give a lot of credit to Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 11: I give a lot of credit to Vic Fangio and
Speaker 11: Kellen Moore for on either side of the ball. Just
Speaker 11: getting those guys playing the right way and playing up
Speaker 11: to their talent. And there's a really good feeling there.
Speaker 11: I was in Buffalo on Friday. There's an amazing feeling
Speaker 11: in Buffalo. The quarterback is off the charts. I just
Speaker 11: love the vibe they have in that building. And again,
Speaker 11: you know, talk about two coaches Sirianni and McDermott, guys
Speaker 11: who are really underappreciated.
Speaker 9: I mehean Dermott.
Speaker 11: They've won the division five years in a row, they've
Speaker 11: been to the playoffs seven out of eight years, and
Speaker 11: I think they got a lot of young players on
Speaker 11: that team, and they're just understanding that winning's the most
Speaker 11: important thing, and everybody's just diving into their roles. And
Speaker 11: of course they get the snow game Sunday night and
Speaker 11: they go have a heck of a lot of fun
Speaker 11: and kind of show that to the world.
Speaker 9: But I just love both those teams.
Speaker 11: Again, I don't know if they're underdog stories or not,
Speaker 11: but they're damn good.
Speaker 3: Who does Josh Allen remind you of?
Speaker 11: You know, when I was I shouldn't say growing up
Speaker 11: because he's not that much older than I am, but
Speaker 11: I had so much admiration for John Elway. I'm in
Speaker 11: high school, he's in college at Stanford, and then he
Speaker 11: goes on to play in the NFL, and I'm like,
Speaker 11: I've never seen anybody like this. His ability to run
Speaker 11: and throw and make plays and he just was incredible.
Speaker 11: And so when you have guys like that in your life,
Speaker 11: Marino Elway, some of those guys, it's.
Speaker 9: Like nobody can ever compare to them.
Speaker 11: But when you pull back, I'm like, here reminds me
Speaker 11: of a version of John Elway. His ability to run
Speaker 11: the ball, throw it all over the place, and for
Speaker 11: years he was putting buffalo on his back and now
Speaker 11: they're better around them and he doesn't feel like he
Speaker 11: has to do that all the time, but in the
Speaker 11: big moments he does just like Elway used to. So
Speaker 11: that would be my comparison right now, both elite, elite players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see Cam Newton as well in there
Speaker 2: with John Shellen. I mean they run, they ran in
Speaker 2: a more physical way than Elway did. But I don't
Speaker 2: know if you see those comps as well.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 11: Well for me with Cam, I think Cam, you know,
Speaker 11: go back to Cam in college. I mean they're running
Speaker 11: quarterback power, you know. I mean he's in behind these guys.
Speaker 11: I mean it's like, you know, nineteen twenty four four
Speaker 11: horsemen type stuff. And you know, for me, he's I
Speaker 11: see the effectiveness as a runner like Cam. Cam I
Speaker 11: thought was unique that way, and I just think Josh
Speaker 11: is I think he's a rare passer. His ability to
Speaker 11: throw the ball from the pocket out in space. I
Speaker 11: just think a cut above Cam for me throwing the ball.
Speaker 2: We were talking about comeback Player of the year. Now
Speaker 2: here's a couple of our candidates, Russell Wilson, Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2: Now we're not talking about an injury. It's more perception.
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. Could he be up for comeback Player of
Speaker 2: the year. Out of those three, who would you.
Speaker 11: Pick or if you have another well, I think there
Speaker 11: are three great candidates, and I'll hit Russell first. If
Speaker 11: you think about what's happened with Russell over the last
Speaker 11: couple of years, I think a lot of people said,
Speaker 11: you know, he's probably done, He's close to being done.
Speaker 11: I can see why Pittsburgh takes a shot at him.
Speaker 11: Maybe they can revive him. They don't give him a
Speaker 11: huge contract. Let's kind of see what happens there and
Speaker 11: for him to play as well as he has.
Speaker 9: And you know, the other day was big. This wasn't.
Speaker 11: Hey, Pittsburgh, let's play great defense. Let's run the ball.
Speaker 11: He threw for four hundred and fourteen yards in that game.
Speaker 11: Now is Cincinnati good on defense? Not really right now?
Speaker 11: So I get that, But I thought they'd go into
Speaker 11: that game hammer them. Russell make a couple of big
Speaker 11: plays in the passing game, Pittsburgh wins the game with
Speaker 11: their defense. That was not the game. So it's not
Speaker 11: like they're winning despite him. I mean, he's a major
Speaker 11: contributor to it. And if you think about comeback player,
Speaker 11: where have they been? He wasn't in a good place
Speaker 11: the last couple of years. He's revived himself. The Darnold
Speaker 11: story is fantastic, and I think it's a really good
Speaker 11: story for a lot of teams. When you think about
Speaker 11: young quarterbacks, you thrust them into a situation when they're young,
Speaker 11: it's not a real good situation. They got to do
Speaker 11: it all themselves. They're still learning how to play. And
Speaker 11: these guys get resurrected and you and I have talked
Speaker 11: about this before about Tom Brady, so many things he's done,
Speaker 11: you know, at the highest level in the NFL. But
Speaker 11: for him to play till he's forty five, for Drew
Speaker 11: Brees to play till he's forty, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers,
Speaker 11: all of these guys. The runway for quarterbacks is a
Speaker 11: lot longer than it used to be. And I think,
Speaker 11: you know, the way we protect quarterbacks these days is
Speaker 11: contributed to that. But this idea that you can take
Speaker 11: a guy who has ability, who's the right kind of guy,
Speaker 11: who's been in a bad place, and he can he
Speaker 11: can revive himself and resurrect himself because these guys are
Speaker 11: going to play much longer. I think that's an important
Speaker 11: story to tell. And I'm gonna hit the last one
Speaker 11: because I love him to death. The sa Quand story
Speaker 11: is just off the charts for me. I mean, the
Speaker 11: devise of the running back. You can't pay running backs.
Speaker 11: They're done when they're twenty seven. You know, watch the
Speaker 11: Eagles play. I mean, he's an incredible player, and he
Speaker 11: might be the single most important player in contributing to
Speaker 11: what I was talking about earlier with Philly. He's an
Speaker 11: amazing guy. Everybody's behind him, and again, I think beyond
Speaker 11: his ability on the field and his production, he's bringing
Speaker 11: an energy to that organization that's that's really making a difference.
Speaker 2: Talking to Jason Garrett, NBC Football Night in America analyst,
Speaker 2: it'll be the Chargers and the Chiefs on Sunday Night.
Speaker 2: Speaking of protecting the quarterback the Trevor Lawrence hit. Does
Speaker 2: the NFL look at the sliding portion of this and
Speaker 2: if so, what kind of modifications do you think the
Speaker 2: NFL should make on that?
Speaker 9: Well, I think they have to look at it.
Speaker 11: Everyone has the right intentions here, you know, player safety
Speaker 11: and all the rules changes they've made at all positions,
Speaker 11: how we do things in the off season, training camp, practice,
Speaker 11: all of that, and then in relation to the quarterback.
Speaker 11: I think these are all really good things to do.
Speaker 11: But now you're in that little gray area that these
Speaker 11: quarterbacks are sliding later and later and later, they know
Speaker 11: they're getting protected, they get to the sideline, they fake
Speaker 11: like they're going out, and they make twenty more yards.
Speaker 11: There's all these things, so so I think they have
Speaker 11: to guard against that. I heard somebody saying, you know, hey,
Speaker 11: maybe we should penalize the offensive guys. Maybe that's the
Speaker 11: only thing you truly can do, and I get that
Speaker 11: I'm not quite there yet, but I do think they
Speaker 11: have to allow guys to hit these these quarterbacks, and
Speaker 11: the hit on Trevor Lawrence egregious. I agree with the
Speaker 11: punishment all of that, but there's a lot of gray
Speaker 11: there for the for these defensive players, and you can
Speaker 11: see them playing hesitantly. So I wouldn't be opposed to
Speaker 11: some kind of penalty for a quarterback if if he
Speaker 11: clearly is trying to.
Speaker 9: Dupe the defender and not just getting down.
Speaker 2: I mentioned this yesterday and we were just kind of
Speaker 2: throwing stuff against the wall. But you know when a
Speaker 2: player is going to signal for a fair catch on
Speaker 2: a punt, then you know you can't hit him. If
Speaker 2: a quarterback is getting ready to slide and holds his
Speaker 2: one hand up like you are signaling that I'm giving
Speaker 2: myself up, or if Patrick Mahomes is dancing down the sidelines,
Speaker 2: he doesn't put his hand up, you blast him.
Speaker 3: Can you ask a.
Speaker 2: Quarterback to protect himself you'll be running with the football.
Speaker 2: You just put your hand up. You've signified that I'm
Speaker 2: not going to keep running. It's a white flag. What's
Speaker 2: the possibility of that being put into play.
Speaker 11: I think it's a hell of an idea, I really do.
Speaker 11: I do think it's different than a punt returner. You're
Speaker 11: in that environment as a punt returner. You're by yourself
Speaker 11: as the ball goes up there, and you're really there's
Speaker 11: no restriction on you being able to do that. Picture
Speaker 11: some of these guys in the middle of traffic on
Speaker 11: the sidelines. Now I got to stick my hand up.
Speaker 11: Oh you didn't. You didn't stick your hand up. Now
Speaker 11: I can blast you. I think that gets a little dicey.
Speaker 11: I don't think that. I don't think the environment's quite
Speaker 11: as clean. But you know, I've seen college games where
Speaker 11: these guys start their dive early.
Speaker 3: Well, Kenny Pickett did it, and then oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It's just they changed the rule though, Jason, the next week,
Speaker 2: they change that rule in college football. But you're right,
Speaker 2: but somebody's gonna blast Mahomes one of these days because
Speaker 2: he gives that I'm going out of bound and I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm going to dance down the side. You can see
Speaker 2: defenders they have no idea what to do with Mahomes.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and people lose sight of the fact that these
Speaker 11: these decisions these guys are making are happen and split second.
Speaker 11: You know, we watched the replay and we say, oh,
Speaker 11: he could have hit him, Oh he should have targeted.
Speaker 11: I'm like, do you guys understand how fast a play
Speaker 11: happens in football? It's ridiculous. And so you're asking these guys.
Speaker 11: You know, the receiver who catches it, and he's right there.
Speaker 11: Then at the last second he drops his head six
Speaker 11: inches and it goes from this glancing blow. Do you
Speaker 11: hit I'm like, you know, it's really it's hard on
Speaker 11: these guys. So I think we need to be more
Speaker 11: understanding of that as they go forward. But I think
Speaker 11: penalizing a guy who's intentionally doing it, I don't know
Speaker 11: that that's a.
Speaker 9: Bad way to go.
Speaker 3: How would you handle Justin Tucker if you were his
Speaker 3: head coach?
Speaker 11: I would absolutely stick with him. I'm not opposed to
Speaker 11: bringing a guy in the on the practice roster and
Speaker 11: having a guy kick as well. You know, at the
Speaker 11: end of the day, all decisions are made the best
Speaker 11: interest of the football team, and I don't care how
Speaker 11: much success in history you have together. You know, Justin
Speaker 11: Tucker understands that he understands that he has to make kicks.
Speaker 11: So it's a little bit for me, like a lot
Speaker 11: of people say, with these young quarterbacks, oh, if you
Speaker 11: sit him down, he's done. John Elway said last week, Hey,
Speaker 11: the best thing that ever happened to me was after
Speaker 11: the fourth game my rookie year, they benched me. And
Speaker 11: now John Elway has to respond, and he responds in
Speaker 11: a way that he becomes one of the all time greats.
Speaker 11: And so you're seeing that with Bryce Young, You're seeing
Speaker 11: that with Anthony Richards, and these guys are responding and
Speaker 11: if they don't respond, you got the wrong guy playing quarterback.
Speaker 11: So I bring that up just to say, Justin Tucker's
Speaker 11: been around this league forever. He understands the Raven's got
Speaker 11: to win. He's got to make his kicks. So so
Speaker 11: to bring a guy in to say, hey, if we're
Speaker 11: not doing this, this guy's kicking on the side. This
Speaker 11: gives us the best chance. I don't see that as
Speaker 11: an issue. I don't see that as a problem. But
Speaker 11: I like what John Harbaugh's done. You stick, you stick
Speaker 11: with him and and and you say, hey, you're our kicker.
Speaker 11: But at some point, you know, we got to make
Speaker 11: the decisions best for the team, and maybe that's that's
Speaker 11: the way you dip your toe into that decision.
Speaker 3: How does the kicker forget how to kick?
Speaker 11: You know, it's it's I'm not I'm not a kicking
Speaker 11: guru by any means, so I don't. I don't mean
Speaker 11: to suggest that I am. But it's a highly precise operation.
Speaker 11: When you think about snaphold kick, they're so good at it.
Speaker 11: The ability for a long snapper to snap it in
Speaker 11: a way where it's eight yards deep and he's going
Speaker 11: to hit the holder with the laces on his top
Speaker 11: hands so he can put it down. I mean, it's
Speaker 11: like it's like elite stuff. And I think the same
Speaker 11: thing goes for kicking mechanics. You know, if the foot
Speaker 11: is the toe of the foot is you know, an
Speaker 11: inch too wide, and that opens up your hips too much,
Speaker 11: and then you overcompensate, you come back the other way,
Speaker 11: you know. I think that's the kind of stuff that happens,
Speaker 11: not unlike a golf swing. Right, you know you're not
Speaker 11: hitting it right, Hey the club face is open, then
Speaker 11: I compensate.
Speaker 9: Now I'm hooking it. You know, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 9: I think that's what's going on.
Speaker 11: There's a lot of moving parts, but nobody knows kicking
Speaker 11: more than Justin Tucker. I mean, this is the greatest
Speaker 11: kicker of all time. So I'm certainly hopeful that he
Speaker 11: can find the key because they need him coming down
Speaker 11: to stretch.
Speaker 9: There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: Notre Dame will win the national title if what.
Speaker 9: Two things.
Speaker 11: If they continue to play defense a little bit sloppier
Speaker 11: the other day against USC but they've been a fantastic defense,
Speaker 11: one of the best defenses all year long.
Speaker 9: So if they continue to do that and play through
Speaker 9: their defense.
Speaker 11: In their running game, and then Riley Leonard can make
Speaker 11: a couple of plays, I think they can win. They're
Speaker 11: gonna win in an old school fashion, but I.
Speaker 9: Think they can do it.
Speaker 3: How does the team become tougher.
Speaker 9: You have to do tough things to be tougher.
Speaker 11: I think the first thing is you got to bring
Speaker 11: the right kind of people in. You know, there's a
Speaker 11: great John Madden expression. He said, you know, for years
Speaker 11: in Oakland, we weren't a good tackling team, and we
Speaker 11: worked very hard at tackling. And then Jack Tatum was available,
Speaker 11: to come from Ohio State and we said, you know.
Speaker 9: We're gonna draft Jack Tatum.
Speaker 11: He was an incredible tackler, and all of a sudden
Speaker 11: our team became a better tackling team. So I do
Speaker 11: think it starts with who you bring into the building.
Speaker 11: But you have to do tough things. Unfortunately, in this
Speaker 11: day and age in pro football, because of the stuff
Speaker 11: we're talking about before with player safety, they've taken away
Speaker 11: the offseason program. You can't have padded practices. All of
Speaker 11: those things that help make teams tough. You do a
Speaker 11: lot less of that these days. But I think you
Speaker 11: have to put pads on. I think you have to
Speaker 11: be physical in practice. You have to compete, challenge guys,
Speaker 11: and just make that part of who you are. That
Speaker 11: team in Detroit that we're talking about before, Dan Campbell, Baltimore,
Speaker 11: Andy Reid, Jim Harball, all those teams that are tough,
Speaker 11: the teams that are playing the best right now, they
Speaker 11: do hard things in practice and it shows up on Sundays.
Speaker 3: Take the money out of this, but you have to
Speaker 3: make a decision. Next year.
Speaker 2: You could start Jamis Winston or Deshaun Watson in Cleveland.
Speaker 11: Oh Jamis Winston Yeah, I think that Deshaun Watson experiment
Speaker 11: should be over in Cleveland and they need to move on.
Speaker 11: I don't know how they do it, how they pay
Speaker 11: him or don't pay him. I think you have to
Speaker 11: navigate the situation where you know the salary cap hit
Speaker 11: is at at a minimum. But I would absolutely play
Speaker 11: Jameis Winston. Jamis is not a perfect quarterback, but he's
Speaker 11: certainly revived their team, and I just think there are
Speaker 11: too many.
Speaker 9: Issues with Deshaun.
Speaker 11: Deshaun was a hell of a player at one point
Speaker 11: in his career, but he's not the same guy. And
Speaker 11: maybe he needs another new place with not a big
Speaker 11: two hundred and thirty two million dollar guaranteed contract to
Speaker 11: start his career over again. But I don't think he
Speaker 11: should be the quarterback in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Hypothetically, have you ever been told to play somebody that
Speaker 2: you didn't want to play.
Speaker 11: I don't know that I've been directly told that, to
Speaker 11: be honest with you.
Speaker 3: There is directly have you been told?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I mean I think there's philosophy. You know, this comes
Speaker 11: up with coaches sometimes, you know, we older players are
Speaker 11: more reliable. Older players have experience, They know how to
Speaker 11: play they can help you win in the short term,
Speaker 11: but sometimes you got to pull back as an organization
Speaker 11: and say, this guy's a progress stopper. He's going to
Speaker 11: let us play better now, but in the long run,
Speaker 11: this guy will play better, and we got to take
Speaker 11: our lumps.
Speaker 9: So I think, I don't know this.
Speaker 11: Has been directly, but you pull back philosophically as an organization,
Speaker 11: and sometimes you have to make some of those decisions,
Speaker 11: and sometimes they're right and sometimes they're wrong. The evaluation's wrong.
Speaker 11: One of the issues I have with the NFL right
Speaker 11: now that I experienced a few different times, and I
Speaker 11: see it a lot in the NFL, is just because
Speaker 11: they're young, just because we drafted them, doesn't mean they
Speaker 11: deserve to play. They have to earn that right too.
Speaker 11: So in a quest to be younger and play younger guys,
Speaker 11: you got to make sure they're earning it along the way.
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Have fun on Sunday night. Thanks for joining
Speaker 2: us as always, You're the best. Thanks Dan, It's Jason
Speaker 2: Garrett Football Night in America. It'll be the Chiefs and
Speaker 2: the Chargers will come back. Last call for phone calls,
Speaker 2: what we learn, what's in store tomorrow after this.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, what we learn, What's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow. I am not here tomorrow, Ryan Leaf, I
Speaker 2: think will be in the chair. I'm shooting my scene
Speaker 2: for Happy Gilmore two, where I thought I was going
Speaker 2: to be playing myself, and now Sandler said, maybe there
Speaker 2: is a plot twist and I'm going to play somebody else.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: As an actor, do you need more heads up.
Speaker 3: To prepare you normally do? I normally do, but you.
Speaker 5: Would immerse yourself in the character.
Speaker 2: Yes, Now I have to completely change my approach to
Speaker 2: my role the lines that I deliver. I think he
Speaker 2: wants me to wear a mustache. Oh, I think so,
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, So I think he wants he
Speaker 2: wants me to be in character when I show up
Speaker 2: on set tomorrow, I don't know who else is going
Speaker 2: to be there, hopefully Julie Bowen, who was his girlfriend
Speaker 2: from the original Happy Gilmore. And be nice to see Julie.
Speaker 2: But I know that she's in the movie.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I wonder how many Hollywood movie sets. Do
Speaker 5: actors walk onto set and day out they're told they're
Speaker 5: playing a different character.
Speaker 2: Well, I was told technically the day before, okay, just
Speaker 2: to be fair.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it seems you're working for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's happened before.
Speaker 3: When I did.
Speaker 2: I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry, And I'm getting
Speaker 2: ready to do my scene. God's honest truth. I'm with
Speaker 2: Kevin James and Adam Sandler, and Kevin James turns to
Speaker 2: me and he goes, can you do a Brooklyn accent?
Speaker 3: I go, wait, no, I'm just getting ready to do.
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, but this is this is, you know,
Speaker 2: staged in Brooklyn, like we're Brooklyn cops.
Speaker 3: I go, they're firefighters. I go no, no, no.
Speaker 2: And then I lost out to a role with Rob
Speaker 2: Schneider in Johan because they wanted me to play a
Speaker 2: Middle Eastern cab driver and they said, can you do
Speaker 2: an accent? I go no, no. They go, all right,
Speaker 2: we'll have Schneider do it. I'm not exactly working with
Speaker 2: Scorsese here.
Speaker 8: Yes, he just did it forty eight hours to try
Speaker 8: to put something together.
Speaker 2: I mean I got yes, I could do a Brooklyn accent,
Speaker 2: but I did not so. I'm a police officer on
Speaker 2: the scene and I didn't have a Brooklyn.
Speaker 7: I just to forget about it.
Speaker 1: That's what you got to know.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we put it off long enough. And
Speaker 2: America says, my god, novem VP, and Marvin was confused.
Speaker 2: He wanted to know if it was the MVP for
Speaker 2: the month of November. Yes, it's self explanatory. It's the
Speaker 2: novemb No.
Speaker 7: I thought it was the MVP up until November.
Speaker 3: Oh season, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have asked. We had the OCTOBERVP. Let's do
Speaker 2: let's go around the room. They novem Do you understand
Speaker 2: what it is? Marvin, November, not Danny Hurley. He will
Speaker 2: not win in novem VP. You don't know, Okay, Todd
Speaker 2: your novem VP.
Speaker 8: Okay, Jason guy was just singing his praises last segment.
Speaker 8: I'm giving it to Saquon Barkley. The Eagles have won
Speaker 8: eight games in a row. Some quick numbers of what
Speaker 8: he's done in November. Had one game of one hundred
Speaker 8: and fifty nine yards, one forty six, two fifty five,
Speaker 8: one oh seven and a total of six touchdowns. Saquon
Speaker 8: Barkley doing it November.
Speaker 3: Seaton your novem VP.
Speaker 6: I too had Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3: I also had.
Speaker 6: Everything that Todd just said is exactly why he was
Speaker 6: my novem VP.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Marvin. It was a little
Speaker 2: confused about you know what the rules were. It's your
Speaker 2: novem VP, Marvin.
Speaker 6: Bark not even close.
Speaker 3: Paulie your novem VP.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna mix it up, and this will fly in
Speaker 5: the face of being valuable to a team. His team
Speaker 5: went zero to four in November, the Oakland Raiders here
Speaker 5: the Las Vegas Raiders. Brock Bauers is averaging nine catches
Speaker 5: a game in the month of November. He is should
Speaker 5: be an MVP candidate if he were on a good team.
Speaker 5: Fantastic player. A lot of people passing on brock Bowers. No,
Speaker 5: the MVP.
Speaker 3: I see what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Yes, you didn't really want to go there, but you
Speaker 2: had to go there because this is your segment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Rock Bauers has had a wonderful year. Uh, my NOVEMVP
Speaker 2: is Barkley.
Speaker 8: Yes, finally, just to hammer that choice home even further.
Speaker 8: If November was thirty one days. On December first, he
Speaker 8: ran for another.
Speaker 5: One hundred and seven yards in a touchdown.
Speaker 9: A day passed.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't count.
Speaker 8: It does not count.
Speaker 3: But but but it does, it doesn't.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, there's not thirty one days.
Speaker 6: That's not how the game works.
Speaker 9: Top.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sick of them. A huge game for sake
Speaker 2: with Dan in Orange County. Dan, thanks for holding What
Speaker 2: can I.
Speaker 3: Do you for?
Speaker 12: Hey?
Speaker 8: Dan?
Speaker 12: First time, long time. I'm also a Daniel Patrick Kearney,
Speaker 12: so we kind of shared the same name. I wanted
Speaker 12: to give a shout out to the Santa Margarita Cowboys
Speaker 12: who are headed towards Florida for the Pop Warner National Championship,
Speaker 12: and your Dan Patrick School of Sportscasting did a great
Speaker 12: job on the bracket announcement yesterday and I wanted to
Speaker 12: thank you so much for that.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you Dan, the Dan Patrick School
Speaker 2: of Sportscasting, Full Sale University, they handle that.
Speaker 3: Done a lot of great work down there, led by
Speaker 3: Gus Ramsey.
Speaker 2: Let's go around the room what we learned on the program,
Speaker 2: tod I'm going to start with you.
Speaker 3: You tuned into watching them.
Speaker 8: The Wizards have lost their last fifteen games by at
Speaker 8: least nine points. They went November.
Speaker 3: Oh, November, they went Ovember. Satan. What did you learn today?
Speaker 6: At forty? Is getting right back out there?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 6: That let a little pepper spray scare him off?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he got pepper sprayed in Columbus. Marvin Stu
Speaker 3: Gotts has a book. Yeah he does. He does. Paulie,
Speaker 3: what did you learn today? It should be doctor pepper Spray?
Speaker 3: I like it, Todd, What did I learn today?
Speaker 8: Jason Garrett compares Josh Allen to John Elway. They can
Speaker 8: run through and make unique plays.
Speaker 2: Somebody else had that comparison as well earlier in the week.
Speaker 3: I think was it Golik? Might have been Maybe? I
Speaker 3: don't know what we learned?
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