WEBVTT - #470 - Kevin Smiley 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.680 Yo, it's Kevin Smiley. Check me out on the Bootleg 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:03.560 keV podcast. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.840 Yo, Bootleg keV show Man. We got a special guest 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:14.200 in here from Okachobe, Florida, Kevin Smiley. How you doing man, 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:15.040 Welcome sir. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:15.640 Thank you. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.120 First of all, man, I remember seeing your first song 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.080 was Paralyzed, right, sir. I remember opening my phone one 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.880 day and seeing it and then like within that whole week, 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.520 it just everybody was posting it. It was going crazy. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:31.080 That was your first song. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.239 Yeah, like ever, that first song I ever recorded. Yeah, 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.120 I've written a few, but that was like the first 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.680 real how old are you? I'm twenty now, so. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.440 You're twenty now? So when that came out with You're nineteen, yes, sir, Yeah, 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:47.319 damn that's crazy man. So super dope visual by the way, 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.520 very strong. Whose idea was like, like, are you very 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.480 hands on with the whole creative process? 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.000 Not really with the visuals. That's more like my manager. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.480 He's a bit more of a film type of guy 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:00.520 than you know obviously know our director, right, you know, 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:02.240 So that was really much pretty much. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.880 Then give me some of your background because you know, 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.880 you make country music and it is very it's dope 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.759 you know, and I never thought i'd hear NBA Young 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.880 Boy on the countrything. You have a new song with 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:19.000 NBA Young Boy Free Him by the way, Yeah, called Mattador. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.600 You brought NBA Young Boy to the country world. Just 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:22.640 kind of give me like a little bit of your 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.039 background in terms of like what did you grow up 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.639 listening to? How did you get into country music? Obviously, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:28.959 Florida is like a it's the South, but it's like 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.160 I always tell everybody, Florida is like its own country. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:32.640 Yeah, there's a bit of like. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.039 If you just break Florida off, like there's South Florida, 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.400 which is like its own thing, and then there's like 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.520 Central Florida, which is way different than Jacksonville. And you 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.800 know what I mean, it's like its own little ecosystem 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.240 of that's just separate from the world. So how did 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.680 you kind of grow up listening to country and like 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:49.680 like what got you into it? 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.640 Yeah, so be from Okey Chelby, Florida. It's a cattle town, 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.640 really cow cattle, Yeah, cattle, Okay, so tons of cows, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.680 acchual cows. Cowboys are there, yeah, yeah, actual cowboys around 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.080 and then like big fishing, like so we have a 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:06.080 big bass tournament that happens on Lake Okechobee. So I 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.480 grew up listening to just pretty much strictly gospel. My 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.840 dad was a pastor, so we were just listening to 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.520 a bunch of gospel music and we'd go to different churches. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.240 I would have like what's called southern gospel, so that's 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.800 vaguely similar to country music. Yeah. And then my best 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.400 friend growing up, his parents were ranchers, so they're always 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.480 playing country around the house and in the car and 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:30.919 my brother we spent a lot of time with them. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.800 So that's how I really got into listening in the country. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.680 Then when I was like sixteen, that was COVID. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.080 Damn, that's so crazy. Yeah, it felt like that was yesterday, 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:44.919 right like when I was sixteen. Then COVID. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.400 You're twenty now it's wild gentle minute. Yeah. Yeah. So 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.120 I was just playing a bunch of two k and 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.720 I hated the playlist. I mean, after like six months 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.080 of hearing the same time, I don't want to hear 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:55.359 it again. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.079 And you're stucking the house is all you got is Yeah. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.320 So I just put some some songs in my play list, 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.359 and you know, with my dad in the past. He 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.160 didn't really want me listening to too much, you know, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.919 hip hop and stuff, but everybody we need to listen 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.600 to country around town. So I just put some songs 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.040 on my playlist and they're the song in particular called 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.839 Amla by Morning because it's a legend. George Straight, he's 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:15.640 like the gold. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:17.840 Straight's the guy man, Yo, listen, I love me some 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.760 George Straight. That what's that song? Throw? Uh just give 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:22.160 it away? 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.200 Yeah? 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:28.800 That ship? What's the one? Uh uh Ocean? That's my 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.600 favorite Arizona Okay, yeah yeah, and then write this down, 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.000 great song. And my favorite Troubadour. Oh my Trouber Door 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:37.360 is a fucking banger. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.760 That's that's a great song. Yeah. So yeah, So I 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.680 just put some of his songs in my playlist. Put 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.720 some you know Luke Comb's, Camee Brown, Thomas Redd, and 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.760 you know some Alan Jackson. He's a Georgia boy, one of. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.240 My Alan Jacksons. O. G man, I remember I remember 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:52.560 Alan Jackson when I was a kid. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.400 Yeah, So I just put them on my playlist and 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.279 I started just listening to really heavy. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:57.600 Then. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.720 I've always been musical. I've been playing drums since I 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.560 was set, even getting the church. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:01.960 Yeah. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.320 Then I started playing guitar in the bass when I 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:08.120 was eleven or twelve something around there. So then I 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:12.160 just started posting on TikTok, just singing, singing these country songs. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:13.480 Like singing like stuff that was already out. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.560 Yeah, yeah, singing. I wasn't writing at the time. I 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.279 had a video go viral. We had like five millions 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.880 or something like that. So some producer him it was like, bro, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.200 you can sing, but you gotta start writing your own stuff, right, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:27.480 So I started doing that. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.200 Was it harder to like put the thoughts in your 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:35.680 head to paper to a melody? Uh not really? Would 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.000 you like write with the guitar, Yeah, I. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:37.640 Write with the guitar. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:38.080 Yeah. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.440 So I just kind of figure out what kind of 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.600 chords I wanted to do. Then I'll just figure out 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.120 what kind of theme I want to write to. Obviously, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.600 my first songs are horrible. Everybody you know should. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.320 I mean, if your first song is Paralyzed's not terrible. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:56.560 Well that was so yeah. I just started doing that, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.760 started picking up steam a little bit. Then I got 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.680 signed to my production company. Uh, flew out to Vegas 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.560 and recorded Paralyzed here in Vegas. 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.240 Yes, what do you think about Vegas? Being a Florida 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.240 boy who grew up in the church life, did you 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.360 did any of those Like did you walk the strip? 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.400 No? I drove through it, so you gotta walk it. Yeah, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.400 I ain't done that. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.120 But people will pass you all these cards with phone 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:21.560 numbers on it. Don't call the numbers. 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.159 Okay, got it, got it, got it. Thanks for the tip. Yeah, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:26.880 I'm not a big fan of Vegas, to be honest 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:27.479 with you. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.560 Yeah, I lived there for a while. I loved it, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.320 but I'm also degenerate. I have a gambling problem. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:34.880 Dana White type stuff. 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.920 Huh no, he's got a real problem. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.320 Yeah, I've seen some of those videos with the note 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.000 boys and stuff. 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:42.760 Right, So you ended up we should go to Vegas 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.000 and that's where you recorded Paralyzed, Yes, sir. Nice. Yeah. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.680 Then we just started, you know, posting some uh just 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.280 videosn't me singing it, and they went viral. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.400 How I want to know, because you put, like you said, 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.279 like how many different pieces of content did you shoot 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.359 to push that push that one song before it went viral? 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.480 Because I wanted people to understand, like, sometimes people will 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.920 post one thing and if it doesn't go crazy. They 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.240 get discouraged and then they don't put anything else up 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:10.599 and then they stop pushing their music. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.560 And yeah, so I think we had we had filmed 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:18.279 maybe about six or seven, and it was probably like 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.800 the sixth or fifth or six that went viral. But 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.920 that's after me posting hundreds of times on my TikTok. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:25.320 You know that's so. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.000 I mean, I just people give up too soon on 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:28.920 their records. 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:33.880 Definitely. Yeah, so yeah, fine with viral. The big push 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.800 was when DJ Academics he had reposted it, and that 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.040 that kind of took it off a bit. That that 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.800 was a pretty cool moment. I started getting hit up 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.919 by you know, some of my favorite artists and stuff 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:45.200 like that. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.200 Who hit you up where you were like, what the heck? 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.680 The first big one was that was crazy with Swaye. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:52.520 That was cool. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.840 I remember waking up at like six am. I think 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.440 I was. I don't remember what I was doing about it. 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.520 He's got to be right in some country swally feels 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.560 like they kind of looking at that country genre like, well, yeah, 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:04.480 I think I could do that. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.640 And I've heard he's an incredible writer, so oh he 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.840 is amazing. I think he could do. So. 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.160 Yeah, he's an amazing writer's a beast. He's also somehow 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.880 become very underrated over the last like four or five years. Definitely, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.000 who else besides Swale A great guy. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.920 Loved that kid a little dirt, So you loved all 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:28.200 of that stuff while also loving George Straight. Yeah, it's 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.960 so crazy because I just did this podcast and I 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.560 flew out to Portland to do this podcast with this guy, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.240 nam Phil Becker, who's the head of a radio company 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:37.080 called Alpha Media. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.960 They own one hundreds of radio stations, and we were 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.760 talking to he wanted me to come out there and 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.080 do a podcast. The theme of it was this Country 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:48.280 the New hip Hop, And I didn't necessarily say it was, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.280 but I did say that there's so many correlations between 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.000 the two worlds, right, Like if you think about like 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.360 hip hop, like like I like on the West Coast, 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.520 we got low riders, but like the country, they got 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.360 their trucks. You know what I'm saying, a lot of 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:04.440 music about women, a lot of music about partying. And 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.680 now with the Internet, I feel like, you know, when 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.320 I was growing up, like you, we either in hip 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.200 hop or you were into like it was really like 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.200 you really when I was a kid, I was never 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.840 in the country. I barely got into the country more 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.080 recently because of Jelly Ropes. I've been friends with Jelly 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:27.360 for like twelve years. Yeah, and so I would put 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:28.960 his stuff on and then other shit would start playing. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.520 I'm like, oh, this country shit ain't too bad. But 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.839 I was saying, like the genre barriers are gone now 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.360 because like you might open your phone and like, like 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.079 you said, academics posted your shit, which is country, right, 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:47.520 and then you know, if somebody's into dark, they could 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.880 also be into Morgan Wallen. I mean, look, they have 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:50.720 two songs. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:51.480 Again, great songs. 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.400 Yeah. So it's like I just feel like the whole, 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.600 like the world seemed to be blending together. The fan 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.600 bases are. I mean, obviously there's still people who aren't 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.000 going to listen country, who aren't going to listen to 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.280 hip hop on each side, but it does feel like, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.840 you know, more than ever, there's just people just are 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.199 music fans. Again. It's like, yo, if it's country, it's country. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.880 If it's hip hop, it's hip hop, and people are 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.480 doing songs together. You see people jumping genres now post Malones. 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.520 Dude just did his ship. Yeah, I mean Jelly. I 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.600 knew Jelly when he was like an underground rapper, you know, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.719 like I DJ when Jelly, When me and Jelly first link, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.760 he was doing like one hundred people at a fucking 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.520 show Saint Petersburg, Florida. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:30.079 Wow. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:31.240 Yeah, that's crazy. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.520 And he decided his new tour is stadiums. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.360 And no it starts I think it starts tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.200 he's It's tour starts tonight. So yeah, it's just crazy 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.000 to see. Like, just like you know, at the end 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:43.520 of the day, good music, s music, and the other 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.280 dope thing I think about some of the newer country 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.840 that I've gotten into is it's like pain driven, Like 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:54.040 I love like Tyler Childers, Oh my goodness, yeah, oh my. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:54.960 God, he's good. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.959 He's amazing and I just got you know who put 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.880 me on him. Was that Mexicano Tal. Yeah, Mexicano t 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.400 was like, yo, listening to Tyler children He has a 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.880 song called White House Road, which is fire. It's about 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.320 him getting as high as the grocery bill and doing cocaine. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.080 It's amazing. But like this ship is very I'm like, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:14.000 this is a dope ship. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.040 Great songwriting, that's what I love about country, the songwriting, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.360 storytelling for sure, it's great. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.480 Yeah, no, it's super dope. So for you, like, that's 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.640 that's pretty cool that you were able to bring in 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.840 a chopper or not chopper rather NB a young boy. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.480 How did you get NBA boys attention? 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:30.680 Like? 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:35.520 How did because I wouldn't saw him in Utah. That yeah, 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.880 super great guy but very like you know, he's literally 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.240 before he went into jail, he was. He's at the house, 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.800 he's recording, and he's he can't leave. So how did 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.240 you get that done? 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.679 Just their lawyers? Yeah, yeah, my lord knows him well, 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.800 so so did you guys chop it up at all? 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.760 I've never talked to him. Wow. Yeah, I'd love to. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.360 Talk to him, but obviously you got to write him 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.800 now man. Yeah, he probably would appreciate the letter probably, Yeah, 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.240 did you uh listen to that? A lot of young boy. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.080 I want to say a ton, but a definitely good amount. 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.440 It feels like that's your your generation. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:08.960 Stupid. Yeah, especially. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.160 Everybody who's like seventeen or eighteen, like NBA young boys 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.520 there Tupac. It's kind of crazy. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.520 And then in Florida, especially where I'm from, a lot 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:18.880 of people listen to him when I was like in 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.080 middle school, high school. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.240 Kodak Oh, Kodaks I love in Florida Kodaks to go. 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.520 Yeah yeah, it's like him and like the New Goats Roadway. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.800 But like, yeah, I lived in Florida when Kodak Black 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.840 first came out and I never seen no shit like that. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.000 Kodak Black had Florida in a chokehold. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.360 Yeah definitely, yeah, yeah yeah, as he said, Rod Wave 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.760 dudes in my hometown, they go crazy. 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.520 Like if rod Wave did a country collab, it would 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:48.520 be so good because he's already doing like he first 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.000 of all, he loves like a Dell. He loves so 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.800 many different like genres of music. But if I heard 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.720 like rod Waved like a collab with like Zach Bryant 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.200 or something, that shit would go crazy. Yeah, because he's 0:11:58.240 --> 0:11:59.600 doing that like he's singing. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.439 He's an actual singer. So yeah, it could work. It 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:03.560 would be pretty cool. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.480 So what's it been like for you? Like going viral 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.360 so quick? Is it hard to adjust? And okay, now 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.600 we're viral. Now everybody's looking at you. Now you got 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.040 to make records because that your your your team is 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.679 just saying that you that happened unexpectedly maybe, I mean, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.839 obviously the goals to blow up, right, Yeah, but you're 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.760 you don't expect it to happen to what happens? Now, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:26.760 you got to make some more music. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.720 Yeah, you gotta go to work. I've been fortunate so 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.400 the people that I've been working with. I've been working 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:33.760 with a lot of the guys that like write for 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.200 uh Luke Holmes and and Morgan Walling, a lot of 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.000 guys that big Loud, which is uh yeah, they're right 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.400 for Morgan. So I've been working with a lot of 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.080 those guys and they're they're incredible. They've been helping me 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.440 figure out what kind of what way I want to go, 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.160 and and and just learn about songwriting because then i've 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.320 been working in Nashville, everything is about the song. Yeah, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.000 for sure, everything's about the song. So they've been helping me. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:00.960 I've been really fortunate, and I've been I've been picking 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.000 up pretty good. You know, I write or co write 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:05.080 all my records. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.400 What's it like going to Nashville. It's very like I 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.120 always tell people, It's like, you know, we always in 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.880 the hip hop world, we think in New York, Atlanta 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.200 and La Right, But Nashville is like the only place 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:17.480 that matters in the country world. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.760 Yeah, Nashville and Austin, Texas. That's about it. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.840 Austin's come. I didn't know Austin was on the com up. 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.800 But it's just so crazy because Nashville's like this. It's 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:28.640 like it's literally the entire music industry the country is there. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.679 Yeah, all on music rowe pretty much. Yeah, it's cool, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.520 but honestly is cool. I like the way that they 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.880 work in Nashville. Like you go to the studio at 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.920 like eleven, you're done by five, and everybody goes home 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:41.160 or goes to the bar or whatever. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.760 Nah hip hop, man, it ain't like that. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:43.920 No. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.120 No, I've been in studio for like fourteen hours. Oh 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.280 we wow, waiting for a feature. Remember when we were 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:51.800 trying to get that Tory Lanes where we were hanging 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.960 out Tory Lanez in the studio all fucking day, just 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.839 waiting for the drop of verse for my artists. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.040 Was he was he there or was he just like 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:58.880 not writing. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.760 On and off? It was. It's like, you know, like 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.480 hip hop sessions, they can either be very productive or 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.760 they could be very like social. Okay, a lot of 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:11.080 drugs we need people coming in and now maybe a 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.520 jewelry guy pulls up, open the suitcase with a bunch 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.600 of like, yeah, it happens. By the way, if that 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.000 ever happens to you, if the jeweler ever comes to 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.600 your studio with a suitcase, he's fucking you over where 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.520 he All those jewelers that come to studios, they're all 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.120 fucking scam artists. Not that the jewelry's fake, but they're 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.040 over Yeah, charging everybody d do not buy. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.560 Well, I'm heppy. I'm on this show man getting good tips. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.960 Yeah, you don't see strike me as the jewelry guy. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.000 I love jewelry. Oh I didn't get like that one day. Yeah, 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.840 just a little Yeah, it's just from like the Golden Shop. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:45.880 This ain't none serious. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:47.160 Yeah, but one day. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.800 Yeah, I love jewelry. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.960 So you'd get like a chain of the big penditt. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.960 Oh maybe not a big penditt. I like like tennis 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.280 chains and cubans. I'm not really a big pendit guy. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:58.840 But I love watches. 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:00.720 Well yeah, I mean watch It is like you can 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.040 have a really expensive watch, but it looked like modest. Yeah, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.200 you don't want to get the bus down, never to 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.160 rob me. You know, yeah, you rob me. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.280 You know you're getting messed uff on those diamonds too. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.840 I was gonna ask you, what do your parents think 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.000 about everything that's happening now. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:22.680 That I'm kind of picking up Steve there obviously super happy. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.200 I mean when I first started, it was it was 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:25.000 definitely scary. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.360 Were they like a little you know, like like suspect 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.240 on you doing music at first? Yeah? Yeah? 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.640 And then you know, when I signed to my production company, 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.720 that was kind of a crazy situation. I mean I 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.560 had never been on a flight before, and then I 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.600 flew to Vegas. They're like, so you never know what 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.560 he's gonna you know who this person is. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.240 Even go to Sin City, they're gonna, you know, hey, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:49.840 man in the South, they'll be hearing some crazy shit 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.840 about the music in distry. Oh yeah, they're gonna sacrifice 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.320 you in a room full of just crazy ship. Let 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:56.000 me be careful. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:02.000 Yeah. So they were definitely nervous, But everything's pretty good. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:02.640 Nice. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.480 You know, I'm always talking to my mom and my grandma, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.640 you know, letting them know what's going on. I live 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.480 with my mom and grandma right now in West Palm Beach. Uh, 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:13.600 So that's cool. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.000 Have you been to uh Mar al Lago. Isn't that 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:17.800 in West Palm Beach. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:19.200 Yeah, it's in Palm Beach. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.640 Yeah, okay, so not West Palm I mean it's it's 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:22.840 like they call that like. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.480 The Florida White House pretty much. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.440 Right now, Palm Beach is pretty much on lockdown because 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:30.440 jumps in town. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.000 So when Trump comes to town, there's the whole city 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:33.600 like it's. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.480 On lockdown, like that area of Palm Beach. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.000 Have you seen his motorcade before? 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.920 Like no, I've never I've seen it. I've seen his 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.200 plane at the airport, but that's it. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.840 Yeah, yeah, no, it's crazy, Like, uh I heard Palm 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.520 Beaches first of all, very hell of people retired there. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.480 Yeah, it's like a retirement town. Yeah, lot of you 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.800 got by. Yeah, if you got big money with any. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.240 Amount of super wealth, there's also super poverty. I'm sure 0:16:58.360 --> 0:16:59.440 outskirts probably Yeah. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.680 Yeah, once you over the bridge, because it's it's like, 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.320 what's Palm Beach and you go over a bridge and 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.800 it's Palm Beach, Pump Beaches, the island. So they kind 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.520 of if you ain't got that, kind of kick you off. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.879 What what your parents wanted you to do if you 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:14.960 weren't doing music where they're trying to push you into 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:16.240 a certain field. 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.639 U not not really just wanted me to kind of 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:20.800 get a job or what. 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.280 Would you have done or what did you want to 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:23.919 do if you didn't work out what. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.399