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Speaker 1: answers the NFL Fantacy Live Podcast. James go here with

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Speaker 1: like Matt Harmon, you are gonna love today's show. If

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Speaker 1: just you and me, Pat. This is so weird. I

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Speaker 1: you guys. I'm wonderful. I'm ready to get into it. Man.

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Speaker 1: We got a big show in front of us here today.

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Speaker 1: I gonna be talking all things NFL, all things New

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Speaker 1: have we ever really seen two guys drive at once.

424
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Speaker 1: I don't think that it's ever really happened from a

425
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Speaker 1: fantasy From a fantasy standpoint, real life it works well,

426
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: um if if they run it well, but from a

427
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Speaker 1: fantasy standpoint, especially because you mentioned I mean, Eric Ebron

428
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: definitely not a blocker, more of like I think they

429
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Speaker 1: can use him as like a big slot type. Um,

430
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Speaker 1: it's good for your offense, it's never all that great

431
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Speaker 1: for fantasy. Yeah, I just yeah, I don't know. You

432
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Speaker 1: you mentioned the Patriots great at double tight end sets. Uh.

433
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Speaker 1: They resigned running back Rex burke Head to a three year,

434
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Speaker 1: nine point five million dollars, but also side Jeremy Hill,

435
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Speaker 1: it's obviously going to be Corey Dalon two point Oh okay,

436
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: because he's going because over under touchdowns. I'm gonna set

437
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Speaker 1: it at seven and a half under huge, huge disclosure

438
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Speaker 1: because Matt Harmon and and I and research for Bill

439
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,719
Speaker 1: Smith kind of had this conversation on Friday, and I

440
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Speaker 1: have rethought my stance from averagely said he's gonna score

441
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Speaker 1: like three touchdowns, But then we actually thought about it,

442
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: like Jeremy Hill could legitimately have like three hundred rushing

443
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Speaker 1: yards and eight touchdowns next year. No, he really could,

444
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Speaker 1: He really could, could really have. I had the wrap.

445
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Speaker 1: What does that look? What does that season look like?

446
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: He's gonna have like a ton of touchdowns and like

447
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Speaker 1: be kind of productive, or he'll be Mike Gillestly and

448
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Speaker 1: he'll be inactive, He'll be deactivated for like did they did?

449
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: They didn't? They re signed Mike Gillestly too. He's still

450
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: on the roster. Uh, they could cut him, they could

451
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: trade him. I mean, yeah, he was inactive for so

452
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: long with Yeah no, no, yeah exactly. But I was

453
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Speaker 1: just wondering if they had him under contract. Look, you

454
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Speaker 1: can think Jeremy Hill sucks or whatever, but he scored

455
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Speaker 1: twenty nine touchdowns over his first three years, rushing touchdowns

456
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Speaker 1: nine eleven nine. That's he's a proven touchdown score. He's

457
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Speaker 1: a good goal lineback. I just I just look that

458
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Speaker 1: Mike Gilsey's contract he's definitely getting cut. Yeah. I mean

459
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: he's got a cap hit of two point one million

460
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Speaker 1: dollars and it's dead, dead cap of like nothing. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: I mean, he could easily be gone. But Jeremy Hill,

462
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Speaker 1: I think is a good fit as a I mean,

463
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: as a power back there they want to have. I

464
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: don't know, Mike Gillisley not being there opens the door.

465
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Speaker 1: Dean Lewis obviously not being there opens the door a

466
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Speaker 1: little bit as well. The thing about the Patriots, you know,

467
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: obviously it is sort of the sphinxes reddle trying to

468
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Speaker 1: figure out their backfield situation. But I finally I find

469
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: like we had a good handle on it last year

470
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Speaker 1: for a while. We figured out the division of labor

471
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Speaker 1: between Dion Lewis and Rex Burkeha those guys, until Burkehead

472
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Speaker 1: got hurt and then that kind of threw things into

473
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Speaker 1: chaos a little bit. But you know, I get the

474
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Speaker 1: feeling that this will kind of shake out the same

475
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Speaker 1: way burkehad kind of becomes their main back because he

476
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Speaker 1: can do a little bit of everything. He can run

477
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Speaker 1: the ball, he can catch the ball, um, you know,

478
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: and right, and Jeremy Hill becomes the hammer. He becomes

479
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: that short yardage goal lineback, which is where you get

480
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Speaker 1: your three hundred yards and eight touchdowns from. Look this

481
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Speaker 1: is and this is a nice contract for Birkehead. Uh yeah,

482
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: you having a half million guaranteed at signing. Yeah, that's

483
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: a that's a nice that's a nice chunk of change

484
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: for a role playing back. And they definitely has not

485
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: been able to stay healthy as well. Yeah, for sure,

486
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: he he definitely needs to work. They obviously believe in him.

487
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: When he came back from that injury, he did become

488
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: at worst their lead pass catching back over a guy

489
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Speaker 1: like James White who has had a lot of success

490
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Speaker 1: with that organization. They resigned Rex Burkhead of this decent money.

491
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's gonna be like a mid

492
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Speaker 1: round fantasy pick and a fantasy starter in this offense.

493
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Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, I'm I'm fully on board with

494
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Speaker 1: with Birkhead and Jeremy Hills at least interesting. Um, some

495
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Speaker 1: a couple of red flags regarding Rex Burkhead. You look

496
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Speaker 1: at the production last year. I'm just saying, not even

497
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what your flags are. Ye, And

498
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Speaker 1: I'm already a flag. I'm already I'm already flagging them

499
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Speaker 1: ass slander, you're flagging my flag. Um no, Look you

500
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Speaker 1: look at the overall production. You say, okay, pretty good.

501
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Speaker 1: You know, a good touchdown maker, good yardish per game.

502
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: His yards per carry four point one yards per carrey.

503
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: So he was there. He was right there. But that

504
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Speaker 1: being said, we use next stats. His yards gained after

505
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: clothes not good, not good at all. As a matter

506
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: of fact, three point two yards gained after close. Again,

507
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: smallish sample size, but just to just to give you

508
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: an idea, three point two yards gained after clothes. That

509
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Speaker 1: would be less than such luminaries as Peyton Barber. It's

510
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: right around Chris Ivory level, who had three point one

511
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: nine a mere Abdullah who could not run the ball

512
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Speaker 1: with any proficiency at all. Three point one eight yards

513
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Speaker 1: gained after close. Now where Rex Burke head. You're wondering, Okay, well,

514
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Speaker 1: how the hell did he get to to four point

515
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: one yards per carry? Well, this is the craziest thing.

516
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: The offensive line was generating nearly a full yard for

517
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Speaker 1: him before defender got to within one yard. That helps.

518
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Speaker 1: That's just the just the one red flag in the

519
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Speaker 1: health as well surrounding right, I will say if you

520
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: look at back at team when he was with the Bengals,

521
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: he was up all the where, all the way there

522
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Speaker 1: at four point six for yards gained efforts. So and

523
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Speaker 1: this that does if you don't sustain a ton of carries,

524
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Speaker 1: if you sustain a ton, if you get a ton

525
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Speaker 1: of carries, it does tend to be really stable. But

526
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Speaker 1: for these guys that vary in workload and team also

527
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: there's some shifts to it. So I would say that

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Speaker 1: I won't put that as like a death nail for Burkett. No, no,

529
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Speaker 1: just yet. No, No No, I'm not. And again listen at

530
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Speaker 1: the right price. I'm I'm all in on Burkehead. With

531
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Speaker 1: Dean Lewis out the door, I'm just saying, you know,

532
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: maybe maybe pump the brakes, just just just tap the brakes,

533
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Speaker 1: tap them, just tap, Marcus to we tapped the brakes

534
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Speaker 1: or what? No, man, we mash the gas and full

535
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: step hand. Look, I I know a lot of the

536
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Speaker 1: fantasy community too will love Rex Burkhead. Rex Burkehead is

537
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: your favorite analysts favorite running back. You know what I'm saying.

538
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Fantasy Twitter is gonna love

539
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: Rex Burkhead, and that's fine. That's okay. Um. Leggy Blunt,

540
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: former Patriots running back, won a Super Bowl with the Eagles.

541
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: In a full revenge game. Leggy Blunt side with the

542
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, giving them a big body back to pair.

543
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: Allegedly the Lions gonna win the Super Bowl this year.

544
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: That's right. He's won two super Bowl with different teams,

545
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: Lions and the Super Bowl. Here we go? Uh is

546
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: Leggy Blunt? La Garrett Blunt? Does he work anything in

547
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: standard scoring leagues? We're talking non PPR. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, man, Look,

548
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: the Lions have been woeful. They give him, They give

549
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: La Garrett Blunt a decent deal in terms of you

550
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: know what, what many teams have over the last couple

551
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: of years, and I think they expect you to come

552
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: in and be a power back. Obviously this could is

553
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: he the lead on the early downs right now. But

554
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: the thing, the thing is, though they transition a mere

555
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: dila to passing downs, I mean they have theoretic as

556
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: they're passing back. This also doesn't preclude them from letting

557
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: one of those guys go and drafted. Yeah. I really

558
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: would like to see them get somebody, maybe a Darius guys, lot,

559
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: somebody like that. You know, I think of you know,

560
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb or somebody like that. I think we'll get

561
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: a good fit there in Detroit. I mean, so having

562
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: Lagarret Blood on the roster does not preclude them from

563
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: adding more help. Yeah, this could all get thrown completely

564
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: out of the window if and when they draft somebody

565
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: in the second, third round, whatever, add another body to

566
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: the mix. Because right now, all these guys are super predictable. Um.

567
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: You know, if if you know that if Lagatt Blunt

568
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: is in the is in the game, they're running the

569
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Speaker 1: fo They're running the football. You know, if theoretic is

570
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: in the game, they're throwing the football. And if you

571
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: know a mirror dual is in the game, nothing is

572
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna really happen. Or right now they're a little too predictable.

573
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: Um now, you know. I wonder though, because if they

574
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Speaker 1: keeping Lagatt Blunt it all, I think it can actually

575
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: help mask what they're going to be doing a little

576
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: bit because he's good, Uh, he's good in the past

577
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: blocking game. If they keep him in for pass blocking,

578
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: then that would be nice and then they can again

579
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: mix up the run pass option there because again, as

580
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned, man, it was when theoretic was in the game.

581
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's not. He's like like Blunt is one

582
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: of the worst pass catching backs and Riddick is one

583
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: of the worst early down like between the tackles runners

584
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: mayor of duel. By the way, on the last year

585
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: of his rookie deal, he will be an understricted free

586
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: agent entering nineteen, and I imagine he will be restricted

587
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: free hitch. I would think so. Um is the Hunter

588
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: Henry break out with the Chargers going to be delayed again?

589
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 1: The great future Hall of Famer Antonio Gates partially blocking

590
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: his way for the last couple of years. L C

591
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: H though, went and signed former Bronco tight end Virgil

592
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Speaker 1: Green to a three year, eight point six million dollar deal.

593
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: That's really weird, right, Virgil Green? Bro Look, Virgil Green

594
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: is I think a very good run blocking tight end,

595
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: not a great pass catching option. He's a good athlete

596
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: if you go look at his combine numbers. Good athlete,

597
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: but uh, good run blocker, not a great pass catcher.

598
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry obviously more of that move tight end. But

599
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: still I don't know. I mean, how many two tight

600
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Speaker 1: end sets are they gonna run there? With the l

601
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Speaker 1: A Chargers. I don't know. Yeah, I mean they've had

602
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: a guy like John Phillips I think is like the

603
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: third tight end who had been playing a little bit

604
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: for them every now and again. I guess they just

605
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: soup that up here with the Fragil Green signing. But

606
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: I think that the key factor more is just I

607
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: don't care about Yeah, I don't care about Virgil Green.

608
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily really care about Antonio Gates either. I

609
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: think a lot of folks were excited about Hunter Henry though. Yeah,

610
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 1: well I think some of it last year early they

611
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: definitely wanted to get Antonio Gates that record, yeah, you know,

612
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: but after that, I don't really understand why they didn't

613
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Speaker 1: go to Hunter Henry. I don't know. I don't think

614
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: they know why they didn't go to Hunter Henry. But

615
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: I think they learned from the era of their ways,

616
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: and I think they go to see him get more targets.

617
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: They just have such a crowded past. That's the That's what. Like,

618
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: they have Keenan Allen, who's gonna demand Yeah, a bulk

619
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: of it more than that, probably, like yeah, but probably,

620
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Speaker 1: I mean he's he's because he's great, He's incredible, then

621
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: you have Tyrolle Williams got a second round tender. They

622
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: still want to use him. They have former first round

623
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: pick Mike Williams. They probably want to get him more

624
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: involved if he's healthy. They still have Travis Benjamin sticking around,

625
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: and they can get into the tight ends. Gordon's probably

626
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna catch, That's what I'm saying. So just not a

627
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: lot of footballs go around in in Los Angeles, Hunter Henry.

628
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: In terms of price, I would imagine it's going to

629
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: be obviously one of those late round guys. I guess.

630
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not sure signed me up just in

631
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: case he breaks out. He's gonna probably be too expensive. Yeah,

632
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing for me. Yeah, all these time

633
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: mean who care after the first few tight ends? Like

634
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Speaker 1: who cares even think next guy was home around on

635
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: the rundown? Like I don't care about him really, Austin

636
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Sofarian Jenkins signing with the Jacksonville Jaguars a two year,

637
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: ten million dollar deal. That's a big investment in a

638
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Speaker 1: s J. Jacksonville then cut longtime Jaguar Marcedes Lewis, and

639
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: then they also signed former Washington tight end Niles Paul.

640
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: I just really likes Paul. What's up? Yeah, I'm raising

641
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: my hand yere. I don't know what the Jaguars are doing.

642
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing anither like I don't know.

643
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: I get that they like their young wide receivers right

644
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: that they liked d Westbrook and Healing Cole And obviously

645
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 1: they've made an investment in markets huge, but like investment

646
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: in donte Moncrief, his deal is fully gearing. But so

647
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: they kind of bring in some guys that are good,

648
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: not necessarily great, but then they act like they don't

649
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: want Blake Bortles to throw the ball because then they

650
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: go get injury nor well, it's signals they're gonna run.

651
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. I

652
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing either. I have no idea.

653
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: It just makes me not really interested in any of

654
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: these guys for fantasy, because I just don't know where

655
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: the volume is gonna come from. For for a player

656
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: like a s J who, while he was really good

657
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: last year and he bounced back, he still wasn't like

658
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: a big big play threat or whatever. Maybe we can

659
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: ask Niche about that when we get him on the phone.

660
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: But I just don't see where the targets are gonna

661
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: come from from him For him, Mark Easley and Donte

662
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: Moncrief and these guys like D. D. Westbrook and helling Cole,

663
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: that people are gonna want to break out while you're

664
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Speaker 1: on a run heavy offense that's still quarterback by Blake Bortles.

665
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: He just look at that. Remove what you think about

666
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: any of these players from the equation and just look

667
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: at it from like that level. I just don't really

668
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: see how any of these guys, and I think it's

669
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate at least from a fantasy perspective. From real life,

670
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: it's great because you're you're becoming multiple your you're versatile offensively.

671
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: But from a fantasy standpoint, it's too bad because I'll

672
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: tell you what, Man Keelan Cole, indeed Westbrook, they were

673
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: two very young, exciting wide receivers down the stretch. But

674
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: that was because there was no Alan Robinson. Alan Hearns

675
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: was on the shelf. I mean, all these guys were,

676
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, in and out of lineup. Marquis Lee was

677
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: was was there, he was pretty good as well. But

678
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: those two guys man Calan Cole and DD Westbrook those

679
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: were the guys that I was getting excited about. Maybe

680
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: not so much anymore. The Jaguars also released Alan hearn

681
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: speaking of who had a huge year a thousand yards

682
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: and ten touchdowns. Now he's getting a lot of interest

683
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: from a lot of different teams, reportedly going to be

684
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: visiting the Jets, reportedly visiting the Dallas Cowboys. Maybe he

685
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: goes to Oakland. There's a lot of different places, a

686
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: lot of different teams that would have interest in a

687
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: guy in Alan Hearns, who, if he comes in a

688
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: cost controlled basis, is a very nice deep threat scoring

689
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: option outside as a number two wide receiver, which would

690
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, which, I'm excited to find out where

691
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: he lands. I think he can ball when he stays healthy.

692
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: He's gotta stay healthy. That's it. Okay, let's go to

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Speaker 1: the phones. We welcome in Manish Mate from the New

694
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Speaker 1: York Daily News. He is a Jets insider for Sports

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Speaker 1: Net New York as well be Niche. We welcome me

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00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: into the podcast. Man, how are you doing? I'm good, guys,

697
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: how are you doing well? Uh? We're talking all things

698
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: Jets here. The big news was that the Jets made

699
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: a massive move trading up from six up to three

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00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: in the upcoming draft. The price, oh my goodness, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Not one, not too but three second round picks two

702
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: and eighteen one more in nineteen. Can you break down

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Speaker 1: what you know of the trade and how this deal

704
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: got done. Well, look, their first priority, and it was

705
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: no secret, was to sign Kirk Cousins and to have

706
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: him either plug and play quarterback for hopefully the next

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00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: six or seven years. But they knew that that wasn't

708
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: going to be a slam dunk, and so they did

709
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: their homework back in January, I was told at the

710
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl in Mobile, they looked at the teams and

711
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: discussed with the teams ahead of them in the draft

712
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: what it might take to move up a few spots

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Speaker 1: to position themselves to get one of the top three

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they coveted. So when it became clear that

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Speaker 1: Cousins was ultimately going to Minnesota early last week, they

716
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: pivoted pretty quickly, and that's why it only took about

717
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: four days of discussions with Indianapolis before they made this deal.

718
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Speaker 1: They knew that it was a possibility it was going

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00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: to be their plan B all along, and obviously if

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Speaker 1: they had their druthers, they wouldn't have to had given

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Speaker 1: up those three second round picks. But this is a

722
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: franchise in an organization that needs a quarterback. Answer. They

723
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: preferred cousins that didn't happen, so they're going to move

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00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: on to the next best thing in their eyes. You

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00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: mentioned and them giving up three second round draft pick,

726
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: it's a hefty price, man. I think just about damn

727
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: near everybody, including myself, thought that they overpaid. That. Being said,

728
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: why did the Jets feel like they needed to make

729
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: this move? Well, first, you're right on paper, three second

730
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: round picks to move up three spots is a bit excessive.

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Speaker 1: But I think you've got a factor in the real

732
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: life dynamics here, and that is that they desperately needed

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Speaker 1: to do this for a franchise quarterback. And there are

734
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Speaker 1: other quarterback needy teams like Denver at five, Buffalo who

735
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: is now surging up the draft board now at twelve,

736
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Speaker 1: don't count out Miami at eleven. All those teams are

737
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: trying to jockey for position to get one of these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So when you take all of that into the equation,

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00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a terrible thing that they give

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00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: up those three second round picks. Uh. You know, we'll

741
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: find out they hit on the quarterback. It doesn't matter.

742
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: But just because yeah, you know, it's the fourth year

743
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: of this Mike mccagnet Todd Bowlls regime. So you asked me,

744
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: why do they feel a pressing need to get a quarterback.

745
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: They've really had the unenviable honor. I guess it is

746
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: a way of putting it of having two journeyman quarterbacks,

747
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzpatrick and most recently Josh McCown have career years,

748
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: and even though that felt good in the moment, I

749
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: think that has kind of hindered their long term chances

750
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: of getting its quarterback some of these other couple of drafts.

751
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: So that's where they're they're at. They could not leave

752
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: this offseason without a quarterback, and that's the way they

753
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: did what they did, all right, So pursuit of a

754
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback ends in getting a franchise quarterback. Nobody cares.

755
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: No one cares what path you followed on the map,

756
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: as long as long as you got it's true. Okay,

757
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: So now obviously they're thinking about taking quarterback here with

758
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: the top three pick, do you have any idea which

759
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: quarterback they are targeting or maybe would prefer at number three. Well,

760
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: I think they're operating under the assumption that the Cleveland

761
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Browns will take Sam Donald. So the question for them

762
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: really becomes, are they gonna choose or have the choice,

763
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: I should say, between Josh Rosen and Josh Allen, Because

764
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: in their minds, those three guys, Donald, Rosen, and Allen

765
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: are cut above everybody else at that position in this

766
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: draft class, and that includes Baker Mayfield. And even though

767
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: they really like his competitiveness and his heart and desire

768
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: Mayfield I'm talking about, they don't view him in that

769
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: same group, So they might not have a choice. And

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00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: that's what's really interesting about this trade. Typically, when you

771
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: give up that much draft capital, you're going up for

772
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: a specific guy that you're targeting. And the Jets really

773
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna be available at three because they

774
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: don't know who the Giants are gonna take or what

775
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna do at two. Would would they

776
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: take Eli Manning's successor or are they going to trade

777
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: out so that Denver or Buffalo where Miami can jump

778
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: in there and take a quarterback. So the Jets are

779
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: really beholden to what the Giants do. Ironically, uh so

780
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: they might not have a choice. They might just take

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00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: the third guy that's left for them. That's why I

782
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: think it's intriguing if they do have an option between

783
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: the two Josh is Rosen and all, and what will

784
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: they do. I tend to think that they will go

785
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: with Josh Rosen. Well, look at guys that are currently

786
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: on the roster. There's a Josh on the roster and

787
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: Josh McCown who just resigned. But then they also go

788
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: ahead and get Teddy Bridgewater and Bridgewater to me is

789
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: kind of a an interesting figure, kind of uh an

790
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: enigma a little bit. What is their their view on him?

791
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, is he going to have a chance to

792
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: compete for the starting job? How do they view him

793
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: in terms of that quarterback competition? Yeah, Marcus, that was

794
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: a really interesting signing because, I mean, this is a

795
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: guy with a pedigree. This is also a twenty five

796
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: year old quarterback who has taking his team or at

797
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: least been part of a team that went to the playoffs.

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00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: It hasn't really played in the last two seasons. He

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Speaker 1: only signed a one year deal for six million dollars,

800
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: but for all practical purposes, it's just a five thousand

801
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: dollar deal. At the moment, that's the only amount of

802
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: money they guaranteed, So there is no assurance that Teddy

803
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: Bridgewater will be on the week one roster. In fact,

804
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: I think that if McCown gets through the off season unscathed,

805
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: and by that I mean he stays healthy, and he

806
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 1: probably will because they're probably gonna put him on ice

807
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: in the preseason like they did a year ago. And

808
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: this rookie quarterback they bring in shows enough promise, I'm

809
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: not sure where there's room for Bridgewater. He's had a

810
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: precarious spot right he is stuck between McCown and the

811
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: guy who they think is going to be their future quarterbacks.

812
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: So the fact that's a one year deal with very

813
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: little guaranteed money, uh leaves me to think that, you know,

814
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: he's not guaranteed to be on this team. He was

815
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Speaker 1: a peculiar decision in my opinion. From his end, I

816
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: cannot believe that he could not find a better situation

817
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: out there in which there was a clearer path for

818
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: him to either be the starting quarterback at some point

819
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: or to be the clear number two because right now

820
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: there's a real possibility that even if he were on

821
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: the roster, he would be the third string quarterback. I

822
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: like the decision for him to go to New York,

823
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: but the problem is you mentioned guaranteed that that that's

824
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: not any kind of investment whatsoever. I'm not surprised by

825
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: the landing spot. I'm surprised that his representation allowed him

826
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: to take a deal that did not guarantee him financially anyways,

827
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: a spot on that roster, because as you mentioned, five guaranteed, Uh,

828
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Speaker 1: he gets another five thousand for a workout, he might

829
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: not even make it there. I mean literally, they might

830
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: just take quarterback at three and just say, well, hey, Teddy,

831
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Speaker 1: uh thanks, thanks for nothing. Here's five grand. Enjoy yourself.

832
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's curious to me. Go ahead, and

833
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Minisha, I think I cut you off. Go ahead, Yeah, no,

834
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: you're right. You know, you can hear players and coaches

835
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 1: talk about how, you know, they love playing for this team,

836
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: they love signing they signed here because they see a

837
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: fit and all that stuff is great. And Teddy Bridgewater

838
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: actually spoke today about, you know, how confident he is

839
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: in his coaching staff and how confident he is in

840
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: himself to kind of become the player that he once was.

841
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: And I have no doubt that he's got tremendous belief

842
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: in his skill set. But ultimately, when you look at

843
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: these contracts, that will tell you how the team perceives

844
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: the player, and the five dollars guaranteed, and then that

845
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: that option bonus, the roster bonus down the line, that

846
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: really tells you how the Jets view him. And again,

847
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of teams were knocking down

848
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: his door, and that is a little bit surprising to

849
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: be given you know, his past success in this league

850
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: and given his age. But but clearly, uh you know,

851
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: even the Vikings that weren't any kind of hurry to

852
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: bring him back. So that gives you a number. That

853
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: number and the details of that contract kind of gives

854
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: you a little bit of insight into into the truth

855
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: of how the Jets of you tell you, Bridgewater, you're

856
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: getting away from quarterbacks. You wrote recently that the Jets

857
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: were making a run at Jerick McKinnon. Obviously that didn't

858
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: work out for them. They do sign Isaiah Crow. Well,

859
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: do you see them running rolling into the season with

860
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: this crow Well, maybe Balal pal backfield, or do they

861
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: do something else later in the draft to try and

862
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: get a running back of a Jerick McKinnon type guy. Well,

863
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: I think that that type of player would have been

864
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: an option if they had gotten Kirk Cousins and have

865
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: their two second round picks. Uh, one of those two

866
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: second round picks, you know very well could have been uh,

867
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: you know the USC kid, Uh, who's a good zone

868
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: blocking runner or another running back. Yeah, I mean those

869
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: guys could have been options. Are clearly no longer a

870
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: part of the equation because the Jets aren't gonna pick

871
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: into the third round. But that's interesting about you know

872
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: what the Jets try to do in free agency, But

873
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: they really, in an ideal world liked to pair up

874
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Jeremy McKinnon and Isaiah crow Well. If they had signed McKinnon,

875
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: that would not have precluded them from bringing in crow Well,

876
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: because they see both of those guys as the Devonte

877
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: Freeman Tevin Coleman uh parallel in this offense, because the

878
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: Jets are gonna run a very similar offense to what

879
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan runs in the UH in San Francisco. And

880
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: you know the Mike shanahan fingerprints are all over both

881
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: of those teams, obviously with Kyle who with Jeremy Bates

882
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: who worked with Shanahan in Denver, and Rick Dennison, who

883
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: spent the better part of a decade with Shanahan in

884
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: Denver is now the run game coordinator for the Jets.

885
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: So a lot of similarities in an offensive philosophy and

886
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: that negotiation. But particularly interesting because when you look at

887
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: what San Francisco ultimately paid Jack McKinnon, we're talking about

888
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars that McKinnon is gonna get in two

889
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: thousands and eighteen, which is an incredible number. Who yeah,

890
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: who hasn't really had those types of stats that jump

891
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: off the page, but uh, that just shows you how

892
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: much Kyle Shanahan coveted McKinnon and the Jets were the

893
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: other team that really wanted him. But but because he's

894
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: not part of the equation markus what you asked before,

895
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: I think it is gonna be a crow Well blow

896
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: pal Eli McGuire combination. You know, they view Isaiah crow

897
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: Well as that you know, power running back in this

898
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: outside zone scheme that they're gonna employ, and they wanted

899
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: to kind of a jack of all trades guy like

900
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: a Jerick McKinnon, who can you can line up in

901
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: the slot and be a pass catching option as well.

902
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: They don't have that, uh to that level on their roster,

903
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: but blow pal can catch passes. They like Eli McGuire's

904
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: at third down back as well. So it'll be a mixing. Actually,

905
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a situation where uh iszak row

906
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: Well is going to morph into the you know, the

907
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley of this offense, because you know Sean mcveive

908
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: wons a similar offense as well. I mean, Niche, I

909
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 1: know you in the past have said that the Jets

910
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: aren't ready to give up on Robbie Anderson. Uh is

911
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: that still true? Is there any updates on him? Like

912
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: what what? What how they feel about him? And what

913
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: was he kind of like this this past season? Obviously

914
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: the guy has been arrested a couple of times here recently. Yeah,

915
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: his legal and taggle mens aren't close to being finished.

916
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: He's got two outstanding issues and they're gonna be least

917
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: in the next coming weeks, next few weeks are gonna

918
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: kind of move their way through the court system. I

919
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: would be surprised frankly if Robbie Anderson were not suspended

920
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: for some portion of the two thousand and eighteen season

921
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: for those transgressions. Look, he's a very confident player. The

922
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Jets were pleasantly surprised by his production. Uh, you know,

923
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a number one in this league.

924
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a he's a number two in this league regardless.

925
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: You know, he's a productive player. But you know, some

926
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: of the issues he's had off the field, some of

927
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: the maturity issues, clearly need to change or he's not

928
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: gonna going to be a part of this team beyond

929
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: this season. I don't think they're ready. In fact, I

930
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: know they're not ready to give up on him just yet,

931
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: barring any kind of you know, future issues off the field.

932
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, this is a player who's got a

933
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity, a lot of promise. He just can't

934
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: blow it. You know, there are a lot of people

935
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: close to him that realized that, you know, being around

936
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: the people that he grew up in in Florida is

937
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: probably not the best thing for him. I think he

938
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: needs a mentor, an older guy to kind of guide

939
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: him and help him. And you know, he's had guys

940
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: on the Jets during the season to to fill that role.

941
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: But you know, when the off season rolls around, he's

942
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: on his own. He's a growing Roman. He's gotta he's

943
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: got to grow up. For lack of a better phrase,

944
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson arrested on nine different charges, including three felonies. Again,

945
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: Monich mentioned it. I would be shocked if he has

946
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: not suspended for part or all of I'm sure that

947
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: looming punishment is a big reason why the Jets now

948
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: and did in guys like to reel Prior and Alan

949
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: Hearns who are coming in for visits into the New

950
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: York Jets facility to deep threaten wide receivers that could

951
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: provide that vertical speed that Anderson gave them last year.

952
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: All Right, here's my last question for him, a niche

953
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: How hot is the seat for Todd Bowles, because, as

954
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned, a number of years now have passed under

955
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: the Todd bull and and here's my thing. I thought

956
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: he did a good job last year managing a very

957
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: difficult situation. As a matter of fact, I think the

958
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: Jets really overachieved last year. A lot of folks were saying,

959
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: this is a team that legitimately could go oh in sixteen,

960
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: and I thought they were very competitive in damn near

961
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: every game they played, uh in. But that being said,

962
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: it just feels like the fan base not happy with

963
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles. How hot is the seat for Bulls, especially

964
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: given the fact that they got a guy like Jeremy

965
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: Bates kind of sword no waiting in the wings there

966
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: as well? Are you promoting Jeremy Baits I'm not. I'm not.

967
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not. I'm just saying. I'm just saying,

968
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: when there's a hot young name like Jeremy Bates, I

969
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: don't know some you know some things out there. Look,

970
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: I I think that Jeremy Bates is a terrific coach.

971
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he fell off the map for a while,

972
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: but if you talked to football people and the guy,

973
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: he's brilliant in terms of xus and those in scheming.

974
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: And I'm very curious to see what he does with

975
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: this rookie quarterback. Look, the head coach and the GM

976
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: both got to your extensions in December. They're they're technically

977
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: signed through twenty. That obviously doesn't mean that much, but

978
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: I think the fact that they're gonna go with the

979
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback actually helps out Todd Bowles and Mike mccagnet

980
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: because you shouldn't expect miracles in two thousand and eighteen.

981
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: With a rookie quarterback playing part of this season. I

982
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: would imagine if he doesn't start Week one, at some point, uh,

983
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: they would turn fire again. Right, He's gonna play, right,

984
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: So I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs. I

985
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: don't know if they have a winning record that this

986
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: quarterback shows promised, that they continue to play hard as

987
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: they did a year ago. I think both will be back,

988
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: will be back to really the pipal year in my mind,

989
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: given the state of this franchise right now is two

990
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen, they need to make a serious playoff round,

991
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: make the playoffs in nineteen. You know, most they continue

992
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: to show progress, I think the next question, the GM

993
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: are okay, but uh, you know, the ownership has speekingly patient.

994
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: I think with this, with this uh, with this group

995
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: of guys, and and I think they'll give him at

996
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: least one more year and then we'll see what happened

997
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: back but Niche from the New York Daily News. Follow

998
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: him on Twitter for all things New York Jets related

999
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: m mate spelled m e h t A n y

1000
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: d n M mate n y d n on Twitter.

1001
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: Follow him there, Miniche, We appreciate your time, man, Thanks guys,

1002
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate it all right. So I kind of wanted

1003
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: to decompress after that because that's a lot of information

1004
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: that I think my niche gave us. Um, I'm interested.

1005
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: I kind of thought maybe Baker Mayfield was in the mix,

1006
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound like he is. Yeah, that's gonna

1007
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: be a Rosen Yeah, it's gonna be a Rosen Josh

1008
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: Allen type deal there, which I think is interesting. Um,

1009
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: but regardless, you know, again, I don't know how hot

1010
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: the seat is for Todd Bowles, but I do think

1011
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: that they overachieved last year. Can they do it again?

1012
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean you y'all had a funny a funny hashtag

1013
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: last year never Jets, which, by the way, and I

1014
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: didn't say anything, but the moniche called me out on

1015
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: it too on Twitter early. Yeah, yeah, he called me

1016
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: out on the the never Jets hash. He called you

1017
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: out since I start, You're the one who started, and

1018
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: yet I'm the one who gets called out for it.

1019
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: But you know how he you know, how he knows,

1020
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: though he said he's an ardent listener of the podcast

1021
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: asked as well, so I'm sorry about that, but no, again,

1022
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: it's um is this is this a team that can

1023
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say replicate because they

1024
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: would they go five and eleven last year. They weren't

1025
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: very good from a win lost perspective, But I do

1026
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: think they overachieved because again, a lot of folks, forget

1027
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: going into seen uh, people are saying the Jets weren't

1028
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: gonna win a game, right, you know what I mean?

1029
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they can, but I think part

1030
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: of it is also that Josh McCown overachieved. I mean

1031
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: a lot of guys on that team, Oh my god,

1032
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: And you wonder whether or not they can do that again.

1033
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go out

1034
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: here and say they're gonna go in six team. I

1035
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: think I think they have more talent than that, obviously,

1036
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: But I think this is and was such a pleasant surprise,

1037
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: such a big part of that. And if he's not there,

1038
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, what does that do for him? They do

1039
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: get Quincy and went back, who could certainly help that

1040
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: passing game. You know, curious what happens whether if they

1041
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: do go with the crowel Balal Powell back God Elijah McGuire, Yeah,

1042
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: I remember he was like a thing for you know

1043
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, you know, I don't know. I

1044
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: mean I guess off the top of my head, I

1045
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: see another four and twelve, five and eleven, maybe you

1046
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: see six and ten of things go well for them

1047
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: kind of season. But I think I think Miniche is right.

1048
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: It is what happens the year after and like how

1049
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: how these draft picks developing, what they do in free

1050
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: agency that will determine their future. All right, there you go. Um,

1051
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: while we got you guys here, we talked about Isaiah

1052
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: karl Well getting into the Jets backfield, Miss mix Um.

1053
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: I guess what's an appropriate area to kind of draft him? Never? Never,

1054
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: I never. I mean he's projected to be a starting

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00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: running back. It's probably a middle middling offense, early down banger.

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00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: I think I felt like I said this one when

1057
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: he signed, like I'm kind of gonna be interested in

1058
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: either of these guys neither, but you know, Crol is

1059
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna be the kind of kind of guy that you're

1060
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, you're in like the sixth round and never start,

1061
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: and he's hanging around and want to play. You never

1062
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: want to play one single time during the year, So

1063
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: what's the point. But you know he's gonna get dressed,

1064
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: not even as a flexible, So I'll let somebody else

1065
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: do it. What's an appropriate price for him right right now?

1066
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean, forget you, madam. I'm talking about normal people.

1067
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: What's what's the make bad decisions? I mean, I'll say six.

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00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a little early. I think he'll go later,

1069
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: especially because applying for the Jets, yep. I think he'll

1070
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: go in the eighth right, But I think he'll be

1071
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: like a one hundred pick. I keep saying. I say

1072
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: this all that people are so thirsty for running backs.

1073
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: People just keep reaching. Just just read give it to me, like,

1074
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, get go, get him when one of the

1075
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: other guys gets hurt. You know, here's an interesting question.

1076
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: Who gets drafted first? Jack McKinnon, arisaka well Over please yeah,

1077
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: there you go. Uh. It's fun to talk about these

1078
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: teams hyper, you know, specifically sometimes so it's nice to

1079
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: bring in guys like Miniche Matin And when we talked

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00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: to Troy Rank about Denver it's it's fun uh to

1081
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: kind of really bore in on some of these teams,

1082
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: because man, they bring in some insight that you forget about,

1083
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was good. It

1084
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: was fun talking to him again. Follow him on Twitter

1085
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Speaker 1: if you get the chance. All right, let's close out

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Speaker 1: your show with the round of daily DAPs. Did the

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Speaker 1: DAPs step steps? We shall start with you. MGM, my

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00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: got Marcus Grant. I got a couple one. Uh. Last night,

1089
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: had a chance to go see Pacific Rim Uprising. Yeah,

1090
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: the sequel to Wait. I saw this. The prefaces by

1091
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: saying Pacific Rim. The first one is a documentary style

1092
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: look at humanities future. The kaid you are real and

1093
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: we have legged behind dangerously in our production of Yeagers.

1094
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: The Kaiju just they're just chilling them coming to get

1095
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: us solved. Uh Ppecific Rim up right. It's not as

1096
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: it's not as good as the original, but it's fun.

1097
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: It's a fun popcorn movie. It's a good matinee. You know,

1098
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: giant giant robots fighting other giant robots and giant monsters.

1099
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: Always a good thing, always a good thing. The fight

1100
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: scenes are great. It's not it's not a great film.

1101
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: But it's a fun film. But my real dap is

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00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: uh to the Franciscovitch's our man franchise. Man, he's all

1103
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: grown up. Man. We we had a chance to go

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00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: out and celebrate with him and his his lovely new

1105
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: bride Mackenzie, out in Palm Springs. It was fantastic, gorgeous venue.

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00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: We had a great day, you know. We we we

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00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: enjoyed the festivities. Um so. But congratulations to our guy

1108
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: franchise and Mackenzie. We wish you the best and we were.

1109
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: I'm glad that was able to be a part of it.

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00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: Harmon got after it. Let me just put it that way,

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00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: God after it. What are you going? I don't know

1112
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: what that's supposed to mean, but I can confirm yeah, no,

1113
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 1: my I'll give adapt to the franchise. Wedding two is awesome.

1114
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: It's great to be a part of it. You know.

1115
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: Palm Springs is an awesome destination for it too, so

1116
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: they really knocked it out of the park A plus.

1117
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: Wedding good execution, good good scheme, good execution. That's what

1118
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: you like. To see a lot of talented players involved,

1119
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Speaker 1: you know. And I'll also give adapt to my dad

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00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: who was out here year last week. We I know,

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00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: I was like a dap like local places to eat

1122
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, which again I'm sure it's really great

1123
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: for all the people that don't live in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: or the West side of l A, especially because it's

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Speaker 1: the only place worth going. Um West side bubble, uh

1126
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: inside the bubble, Santa Monica Steakhouse, meat on the ocean, phenomenal, expensive,

1127
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: but phenomenal. That's why I went there with my dad. Okay.

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00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: We we had a damn good meat. They got like cheese,

1129
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: cheese and meat plates and it's obviously the steak and everything.

1130
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 1: It's you guys, at least Christina, everybody here, you should

1131
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: go try it. I don't know about the people listening

1132
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: who don't live here, they don't care about this, but

1133
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: you all should try. Okay, So here's my question. Here's

1134
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: here's my question. At the end of the meal, it

1135
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: was there that like slight like half second moment of like, hey,

1136
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: who's picking up this tab? I was like, well, you know, Dad,

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00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean we could split it. Good good call, good call,

1138
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: good move. Uh. Daily dapths for me. Um Franciscovitch wedding.

1139
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: If you want to find some of the pictures on Instagram.

1140
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: They got a litt hashtag. It's Francisco hitch. I forgot

1141
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: to use the hashtag way to go to Francisco hitched

1142
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: is the hashtag if you'd like to find it and

1143
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: enjoy those photos on the internets. Um. I will also

1144
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: give a daily depth to Urban Dictionary. They always win.

1145
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: It's great. Um I went to Google and if you

1146
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: guys want to do this you can as well. It's

1147
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 1: always fun. You can google what does Rick Flair drip mean?

1148
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: And go to Urban Dictionary for that. But it is

1149
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: it's very fun. Maybe I should just should I look

1150
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: it up? Now? I am just I'm what does no

1151
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: no no no no no, don't don't say it on

1152
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: the podcast. Let people look it up. Okay, people look

1153
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: it up. You can look it up anyways. It is

1154
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: go look it up on Urban Dictionary. It's actually quite funny,

1155
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: um because it's it's nonsense cool and um well I

1156
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: guess the phrase is nonsense cool too as well. But anyways,

1157
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: regardless of it's fun times, I love Urban Dictionary. It

1158
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: gave me a good solid chuck cool. Uh so there

1159
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: you go. Producer Christina Close us up. What do you get? Um,

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00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm daily dapping the Kentucky men's basketball team. Okay, I

1161
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: have to, I have to. We play tomorrow, so I'm

1162
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: sure all of you guys are going to be watching

1163
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: and rooting for my cats. Probably not. They have an

1164
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: easy drawing now that everyone got upset. Literally all the

1165
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: top seeds are gone. Yeah, U n c s out

1166
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: So I don't even have to pretend to care anymore. Arizona,

1167
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: God Virginia all the more reason we play Kansas State,

1168
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: so all the whole reason to be a Kentucky fan.

1169
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: So it's Wildcat wild Wildcat on Wildcat Violet Is. It's

1170
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: going to be Blue Wildcat v. Purple wild You know,

1171
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be a battle of the terrible wildcat logos.

1172
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: K State's mascot, though, trips me out because it's a

1173
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: normal human body but a cat head maskets are pretty wild.

1174
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, I don't I like mascot.

1175
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: But it's not he's not all furry, he's just like

1176
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: it's like if you just know, it's just a normal harmon,

1177
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: if you just put a mascot head on but had

1178
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: your regular clothes on, that's that's that's there's pretty sick.

1179
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: It's still like I could do some damage. If I

1180
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: had a you know, cat head, I would be like

1181
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: some sort of monster because well yeah, well what would

1182
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: that monster be called? Half cat, half human cat mon

1183
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: cat harmon, cat harmon. I think that was actually for

1184
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: a while. Okay, there you all that's probably signed a

1185
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: sign off there. Alright, what a great show we had

1186
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: here today for Matt Harmon, fram g My guy Marcus Grants,

1187
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: for producer Christina. I'm James co catch next Group. I'm