1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy. Let's do it here 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: on a hump day Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Taster with 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: you one Bill's Lives the Show. Glad you could join us. 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: So I'm driving in my car this morning, Steve, on 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: the way back from my morning workout. Um, what is 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: wrong you work out? What is wrong with you? I 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: don't roll around in bed till eight am. Um. I'm 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: not saying I'm the Marines. Why would I get it? 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: But it sounds like it sounds like I get more 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: done before nine am than you do before. By the way, 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I am, I don't roll around my bed at eight either. 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even move until nine thirty. So anyway, 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm driving back from my morning workout to the house 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: and I'm at a stoplight and the Schefter News comes 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: over on Twitter with the Stefan Diggs extension. So I'm 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: just like, okay, just retweet that. Get that out there. 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: And I didn't. Initially, the first thing I thought was, well, 21 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: that's good. All these people on social media saying this, 22 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: that and the other about Stefan Diggs and his contracts 23 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: now obsolete and all that. Yes, it's true. But if 24 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: you listen to Brandon being last week at the owner's 25 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: meetings when he was asked about Stefan Diggs in his contract, 26 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: you couldn't have I mean, he was cool as a cucumber, 27 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: which in turn made me feel comfortable about the situation 28 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: and that it was going to get resolved at the 29 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: proper time. And he said as much. And so it's 30 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: a week later and the guys. Guys got a four 31 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: year extension for either ninety six or one hundred and 32 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: four million dollars. However, you want to four year extension 33 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: spread over six years, that's right, these two years ago, 34 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: two years remaining on the contract. The second thing I 35 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: thought of after I saw this news was the bills 36 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: created some cap space in twenty twenty two, because you'd 37 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: be doing your to sign your number one receiver to 38 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: this size of a deal and not benefit in the 39 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: short term where you are very tight on the cap. 40 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there were a couple one hundred thousand dollars 41 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: under the cap a minuscule amount, and they were still 42 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: short money to sign their rookie class, the draft class, etc. 43 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Do something. So I and you and I were kind 44 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: of putting our heads together on this and our best 45 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: guests because the structure of the contract is not out yet. 46 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: But knowing there were two years remaining on his origin 47 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: his original deal, which the Bills did with him when 48 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: he got here or shortly after he got here via trade, 49 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: our best guess is they took almost all of that 50 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: money that he was to be paid over the next 51 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: two years and essentially put it into a bonus which 52 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: they can now spread over the next six and reduce 53 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: his cap figure considerably. And it's guaranteed he gets it 54 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: right now give himself to give themselves more financial maneuverability, 55 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: like a little you know, twenty one point five million 56 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: dollars bump right before tax days. Well, hey, there's always that. 57 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Those are some those are some one percent problems. Yes, 58 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: it's first yeah, um, no question, But I think this 59 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: kind of puts everybody's mind at ease. And then Stefan, 60 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: as only Stefan can do, proceeds with the Wolf of 61 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Wall Street scene where Leonardo DiCaprio says I'm not, you 62 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: know what, leaving. That just put a charge into the 63 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: fan base as well. But I saw our good friend 64 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Judy Batista retweet diggs tweet where he uses the Wolf 65 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: of Wall Street scene like I'm not leaving, and she 66 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: just tweets amazing the relationship between Bills and Buffalo. And 67 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of truth to that, because 68 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: you've got a guy in Diggs who was not one 69 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent happy with the offense he was a part 70 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: of in Minnesota. You know, they ran the ball a 71 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: ton under now former head coach Mike Zimmer. He thought 72 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: the team could be helped more if they threw it 73 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: more to him and Adam Feeling, and you know, he 74 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: looked for a better opportunity. Now, ultimately the opportunity was 75 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: chosen for him because he was traded. But I tell 76 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: you couldn't have worked out better for him. So he's 77 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: got seventy million guaranteed now and twenty one and a 78 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: half million in his pocket as soon as he signs 79 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: this thing. So good for him. And here's the other thing. 80 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: Steve and the Bills have done this more than once 81 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: now in the last couple of years. They realize and 82 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: address when a premier player on their roster deserves to 83 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: be at or near the top of the market at 84 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: their respective position. They address the problem, but they do 85 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: it in a way that makes the player feel like 86 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: they're being fairly compensated, but it also turns out to 87 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: be a deal that helps the team is fair to 88 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: the team as well. I gotta give credit to the 89 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: players here too, because yes, you want to if you 90 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: believe you're one of the best players at your position 91 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: in the league, you deserve to be paid as such, 92 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: especially if the team feels similarly, and in this case 93 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: they clearly do. But he didn't say, well, Tyreek Hill 94 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: just got thirty million a year, I want thirty one. 95 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying. He's gonna get paid 96 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: somewhere between twenty four and twenty six a year, which 97 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: puts him in the top four at his position, and 98 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: that's good enough for him. And I'm not saying, you know, 99 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: we gotta be fun and all over Stefon Diggs because 100 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: he didn't demand top of the market money. But that helps. 101 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: It makes a difference in being able to do certain 102 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: things to keep your roster in a place where you 103 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: can contend every year. Yeah, same thing with Josh Allen's contract. 104 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: It was great money, but it wasn't the tippy top 105 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: of the pyramid, right, you know what I mean. Yeah, 106 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: it's just they're both they're startling contracts for any you know, civilian. 107 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: You know, they're startling contracts. But I think it's more so. 108 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: And it says and it's the same thing about what 109 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: you said about Judy Batista. It's something about the relationship. 110 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: It's something about Bills fans. I've said it here on 111 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: the show a ton one thing that's different. You kind 112 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: of get the feeling that's different about Bills fans is 113 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: that there's kind of a brother and like this family atmosphere, 114 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: like they're they're um. They have a level of affection 115 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: not only for their team, but for each other as 116 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Bills fans. It's something that's not that I sense and 117 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: we observe, but it's not really part of the deal 118 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: with other fan bases and and and it also extends 119 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: to the to the Bills players, not only for the 120 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room and they there's a big 121 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: you know this this Kumbaya thing they got going on 122 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: in the locker room. That's real it's also between the 123 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: players and the coaches and the and the organization and 124 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: the city in the region and the fan base, and 125 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: that seems to leak over into the relationship the players have, 126 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: even when we've seen other teams and in the years 127 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: and decades passing, even here in Buffalo in decades past, 128 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: where there's this acrimonious negotiation where everybody's got there, got 129 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: their guard up when they're in negotiations with the other 130 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem to be the case with Brandon Bean, 131 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, Terry Pagoula, Sean McDermott, and all the players 132 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: that they have to do contracts with. There just doesn't 133 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: seem to be that acrimony. And I'm gonna give you 134 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: and I'm keeven the guys that leave, even the guys 135 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: that leave are like that, yeah, yeah, two of them 136 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: come back. Yeah to them come back in Shack and 137 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, I want to And the reason I bring 138 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: this up is because you look at the Tyreek Hill situation. Okay, 139 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefs were prepared to pay a guy who's the 140 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: same age as Stefan Diggs, maybe a year older. I 141 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: think he's twenty nine. Diggs has not yet turned twenty nine. 142 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: I think he does before the season starts. Anyway, the 143 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: Chiefs were prepared to pay Tyreek Hill somewhere in the 144 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: neighborhood of twenty two to twenty three million dollars a year, 145 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: not that far off from what Diggs is getting now. 146 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: And he said, no, that's I want to get paid 147 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: more than anybody in football at my position because I 148 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: am that special right and basically talked his way out 149 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: of playing with Patrick Mahomes so he could get more 150 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: money and play with TWA That's the difference between what 151 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: the Bills have here on their roster. Bill's DNA as 152 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: we hear coach McDermott say all the time, and what's 153 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: going on elsewhere, and you say, wow, what's the big deal? 154 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: The Dolphins got a premier player. They're happy. They may 155 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: have overpaid. He got top of the market money. Everybody's 156 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: gonna get more money in the future. Anyway, what's the 157 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: big deal? The big deal is that, on average, the 158 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Bills are spending six million dollars less per year on 159 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs than the Dolphins spending on Tyreek Hill. And 160 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: I would argue that Diggs is a far more versatile 161 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: player than Tyreek Hill is might not be as inherently 162 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: one trick pony dangerous as Hill is, but I'm telling 163 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: you right now, if I had the choice, I would 164 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: take Diggs over Hill every time because of his versatility. 165 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Hill is not a dynamic and 166 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: dangerous player and a threat. What I'm saying is I 167 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: like the full skill set of Stefan Diggs better, right, 168 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: And I'm sure I'll have people argue me. I'll argue 169 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: with me on that, but that's just way I feel, well, 170 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: and it's it's just like it's it's about a team, right, 171 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: and you've got pieces of that team. Some are very important, 172 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: some are not so important. Some or or overplaying their contract, 173 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: some aren't living up to their contract, and it's it's 174 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: about the whole thing. But if you if you widen 175 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: it just a hair, if you say Tua and Tyreek 176 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: against Josh and Steph, you might give there's some way 177 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: financially you could give the Dolphins an edge because they're 178 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: paying Tyreek the big money and two is still on 179 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: his rookie deal. Okay, Josh is making a one quarterback 180 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: money and so is dig Diggs is making top four money. Right, 181 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: So the production they have, you would expect have higher 182 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: expectations for Diggs and Allan than you would two and 183 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: Tyreek because of the money that they're investing in them. 184 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: Can the Dolphins get value out of that relationship as 185 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: big a value as the Bills get out of Steph 186 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: Diggs and Josh Allen? I kind of doubt it, but 187 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: the Bills are paying more. They're paying more. Now, it's 188 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: now that's just that's a sliver out of a pie 189 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: chart of what goes into making a football team. Right, 190 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: But that's the value you've got to think about when 191 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: you do these deals. Now, I'm not saying, you know, 192 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: because as long as two is on that rookie contract, 193 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: the Dolphins can do stuff like that. They can And 194 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: in fact, because because you and I both because it's Tuah, 195 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: they have to, right, Josh elevates Gabe Davis, Steph Diggs, 196 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder, Dawson Knox. You know, he elevates those guys 197 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: in Miami. Those guys elevate Tua. In my opinion, that's 198 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: the perception I have. Yeah, but that's what they're paying for. 199 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say this, having been here long 200 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: enough to see how business was conducted on the football 201 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: side under Ralph Wilson, who I have a lot of 202 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: respect for having worked for him. The kind of commitment 203 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: the Pagoulas have made over these last couple of years 204 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: has been nothing short of impressive. There is a new 205 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: way of doing business here with the Bills when it 206 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: comes to big money contracts, and I just think that 207 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: needs to be recognized. Josh Allen, von Miller, Stefan Diggs 208 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: all in the top five and average annual salary at 209 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: their respective positions, and it goes beyond just those three. 210 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: All the contract restructures to be able to fit people 211 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: like von Miller under the cap involves paying other players 212 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: on the roster with upfront money now to create the 213 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: room under the cap in the first place. There are 214 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: over half a dozen such players in the last twelve 215 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: months that have gotten paid upfront money to create the 216 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: cap space necessary to make the deals we're seeing in 217 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: a time where we've had two consecutive years of restrictive 218 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: salary caps. That's got to get recognized. It. Yeah. I 219 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of love and respect for Ralph wismon 220 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: my family. I personally owe him a lot. And he's 221 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame for a reason. Yes, and 222 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: Buffalo owes him a debt of gratitude, absolutely did for 223 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: bringing the club here and posthumously the huge gifts he's 224 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: left behind for the for the county and for Buffalo itself, 225 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: for the city. Uh. But the philosophy that was different 226 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: with Ralph this cash to the cap, if you remember, 227 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: is much different with Terry Pagoula and Kim doing it. 228 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: Um They that they are willing to, you know, pay 229 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: now and reap the benefits later. And that makes a 230 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: big difference. And it doesn't. And I'll say this too, 231 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: and you can say which came first, the chicken or 232 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: the egg. Did the club get in the drought and 233 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: stay there because they couldn't get good enough players that 234 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: you wanted to pay that money or enough good players 235 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: or you know, have enough sustained success to keep those 236 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: guys around or were they or were they just because 237 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: they didn't get good players or was it the fact 238 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: that they didn't pay those guys? You know? And I'm 239 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: sure there's instances of both. Look, you know, throughout the years. 240 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not knocking mister Wilson because he did do it. 241 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean big money contract for Mario Williams. Yeah, big 242 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: money contract for Tachio Spikes. I mean he had shelled 243 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: out big free agent money. But I think the biggest 244 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: difference in philosophy was the inability or the slash unwillingness 245 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: of the previous owner to retain his own players and 246 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: pay the premium to do it. I'm talking about Pat Williams, 247 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield, Nate Clements, quality top flight players that you 248 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: had here on your watch. And because of that history, 249 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: you also lost a player by the name of Jason 250 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Peters who saw what had happened previously and was convinced 251 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: he was not going to get the kind of pay 252 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: he should felt he deserved as a top end left tackle, 253 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: and worked his way out of Buffalo because of it. 254 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: So this philosophy that the team has now is far 255 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: healthier for preserving the perennial contenders status that Brandon Bean 256 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott want to be and I think you 257 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: got You gotta tip your hat to the Pagoulahs on that, 258 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: because they've resigned Tredavious White, Matt Milano, Dion Dawkins run 259 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: down the list, Josh Allen so are they gonna be 260 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: able to resign everybody? No? Probably, and we know that. 261 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: And I read an article, interesting article, and the two 262 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: teams that are like that that have had their big 263 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: reputation in recent years of doing that as the Saints 264 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: and the Rams. Rams won the World Championship, and the 265 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: Saints have been, you know, perennial contenders throughout the Drew 266 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: Brees era and they you know, now Sean Payton is 267 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: not there and there they're they're going through a rebuild now, 268 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: so you know, they had to pay the piper. The 269 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: Rams have not done that yet. But the articles main 270 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: point was they did those teams with that philosophy their 271 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: word times over the last one two, three, four years, 272 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: five years where they have had to let every season 273 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: a handful of good players go, Guys that were making 274 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: ten million or five million, eight million, twelve million, guys 275 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: like that. They didn't resign and had to let walk 276 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: because of the cap situation they were in. And I 277 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: think sooner or later, you know that that money does 278 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: come home to roost and you've got to kind of 279 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: sit on it and you can't pay anybody for a minute. 280 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: We'll see how long that'll last. But there's no question 281 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people I don't know if I'm into 282 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: this or not, and i'd like to see somebody one 283 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: of these analytics team groups do a study on it. 284 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: I'm not of the notion that you can't be competitive 285 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: year in year out going forward, year after year after 286 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: year after year. Certainly there's going to be years where 287 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: you have a tough injury here, a couple of tough 288 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: injuries there, or the wrong thing, or a tough schedule, 289 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: or a couple of bad breaks or all of those 290 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: together that just conspire to keep you from going, you know, 291 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: going to the playoffs or you know, win in the division. Whatever. 292 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: But I think I'm not sold that you can't remain 293 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: the Bills can't remain competitive without doing these mega deals 294 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: for these guys. We'll see, but I'm I'm convinced that 295 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: they've done this with their eyes totally open, with a 296 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: plan for staying competitive long term. Here's another thing I 297 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: want to discuss with you regarding this receiver market. The 298 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: average annual salary of wideouts went through the roof after 299 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: the Davante Adams trade and the Tyreek Hill trade. It practically, 300 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean it went up by almost it almost doubled, 301 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: to be quite honest, The reason why is the Raiders 302 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: and Dolphins were desperate to be more competitive, and we're 303 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: willing to not only trade for a true number one receiver, 304 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: but pay him top of the market money to land 305 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: him after they got him. Now, I know some people argue, well, 306 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: it's the arms race in the AFC West. That's what 307 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: prompted the race to do what they did, and the 308 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: Dolphins wanted to upgrade the rebbits around two. That's all 309 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: fine and good. I want to submit this to you 310 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: and tell me what you think. Are the Raiders and 311 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: Dolphins just copying what the Bills did two years ago 312 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: with Stefan Dix. They needed a true number one wide out, 313 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: traded for one, and then paid him with a new contract. 314 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: That is exactly what the Bills did just two years ago. Well, 315 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: and you saw the results of that all of a sudden, 316 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the offense is a juggernaut. They didn't 317 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: give him a new contract, They just gave him a 318 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: little boost right the first year. They gave him an 319 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: extra five million bucks or something like that, which is huge, 320 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: but back then it was like what seventeen million something 321 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: like that. They let him play out and then and 322 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I said it then and nope, and 323 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: and everybody was screaming up and down. It's amazing the 324 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: Bills make this trade. They gave up three draft picks, 325 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: I think, if I remember right, a first first and 326 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: fourth first and a fourth, two draft picks, I believe, 327 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: so they gave up. Was there a six in there? 328 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Maybe there's something. I think you were three three draft 329 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh my god, three draft picks for 330 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: Steph Diggs. Well, the thing the reason they did that, 331 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: and one of the reasons I thought that the trade 332 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: made incredible sense was the fact that he had just 333 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: signed an extension and it was for ten eleven twelve 334 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: million bucks over the course of the next year by year. 335 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: It was dirt cheap, and he was a number one receiver. 336 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: That was a brilliant trade by the Bills because now 337 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: they could sit they were in the driver's seat. They 338 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: got this guy producing like an a one wide receiver 339 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: number one, and he just signed an extension that was 340 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: dirt cheap and he was happy to be here. How 341 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: much did that influence these two trades that we saw though? 342 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Do you think which those two Adams and Hill. Do 343 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: you think they're looking at the Bills model and saying, 344 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: we got to do that. I don't know if they're 345 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: milking at the Bills model. I think they're looking at 346 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: the guy. We gotta get a guy. I think it's 347 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: more simple than that. I think we don't have a guy. 348 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: We gotta get one. Let's get one. The Raiders going 349 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: for Davante Adams is enormous, but that's a that's a 350 00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: huge number. That's a huge number. Those two trades set 351 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: the receiver market on its ear and reset the market 352 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: at a salary level that I don't think anybody could 353 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: have anticipated at almost any position. It was maybe with 354 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: the exception of quarterback, it wasn't that long going we 355 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: were we were squawking about quarterbacks making twenty a year. 356 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: It's not that long. This thing. It's growing like a 357 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: weed in two restrictive cap it's the amazing. Yeah, it's 358 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: and this the cap this next year. And I don't 359 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: know if they get into this. They might at the 360 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: owner's meetings. This all started like a week ago. The 361 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: owners meetings, you don't know, and there's seven hundred people 362 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: in the room, so I don't know how many, how 363 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: quiet they could keep it unless unless the commissioners up 364 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: there saying, hey, this is a proprietary information. Everybody shut up, 365 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: but here's the deal. Next year, we foresee the cap 366 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: being two hundred and thirty two million dollars. That's where 367 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: the CAP's going next year. Keep it under your hat, 368 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: but that's what you can plan on. Brandon Being goes, 369 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: oh okay, oh yeah, we'll keep quiet, but I'm gonna 370 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: signing right. Yeah, you know that they've got to be 371 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: that much out ahead of this. They know what the 372 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: CAP's gonna be. They gotta the only things that they 373 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: don't know is the ticket sales and merchandise sales, and 374 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: that's like ten percent of the thing. They gotta know 375 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be two thirty if or they're abouts, you know, 376 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: they know it's gonna go up. So I'm thinking this 377 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: deal gets done because of that, and I think maybe 378 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: some of these clubs got an inkling of it before that, 379 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: and the Raider's hand, hey we might as well do it. Sorry. 380 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: Being reported over a month ago that the cap was 381 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna go up to two thirty next year, so yeah, 382 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: what if it goes up to two thirty eight or 383 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: two forty yeah even better. Yeah, at least for fitting 384 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: stuff under the chap. Well, yeah, I mean that's where 385 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: they're at. And here's the thing. We talk about cash flow, 386 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: and certainly that's not a small thing when you're talking 387 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: about these kinds of numbers going out the door with 388 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: a salary cap in place, and whether the cap is 389 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: whether you know, there's a big debate is the cap 390 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: reel real or not? It's it's there, and whether you 391 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: can get around or not or whatever. You've still got 392 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: to have a guy at the tippy top who owns 393 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: the club willing to write those checks. And the reason 394 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: guys are like that are willing to write those checks. 395 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: They're sitting back going, Okay, this league, it went from 396 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: two o eight in twenty twenty two two hundred and 397 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: eight million dollars. Kids, that's right, right, yes, but it's 398 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: still restrictive and behind where it was supposed to be. 399 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: It was about two twenty this right on average, it 400 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: had been going up ten to twelve million a year, right, 401 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: But the point is it's ten to twelve. It's going 402 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: up a percentage a year, and it's the bigger the 403 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: number gets, the bigger that number in that percentage is 404 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: so if it goes up ten percent, you're looking at 405 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: a two hundred and thirty million dollar cap. And if 406 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: it goes up like that, well that means guys, like 407 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: you know, every owner in the league is looking at that, 408 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: and every single franchise in the league is worth ten 409 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: percent more. And you can do the math and what 410 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: that means at their bottom line. You can do the 411 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: math if you've got a if you've got a two 412 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: billion dollars entity or three billion dollars entity, ten percent 413 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: of that it's a big number. Yeah, it's more than 414 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: the cap. Yep. If it goes up, if you got 415 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: a three billion dollar team and the caps two thirty 416 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: ten percent of that is three hundred million dollars, it's 417 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: eighty million dollars more than the cap, or seventy million 418 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: dollars more than the cap even is. And that's and 419 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: that's equity. Yeah, goodness, gracious, what's it go? Pretty good? 420 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: All right? Yeah? Yeah, you know what's easier to write 421 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: that check today? Yeah, let's go to the phones at 422 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: eight O three oh five fifty. You can hear that 423 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: thing tearing right out of the cheir. There you go 424 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: on five fifty two, five fifty and we lead off 425 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: with in Buffalo, butch what do you have for us 426 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: here on My guys, my guys, Chris and Steve. It's 427 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: a pleasure to talk to you today. Today is a 428 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: beautiful day. I love you guys. I love w J 429 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: my team. I just want to say this. You know, Brownie, 430 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: you hit it on the head. We're doing business differently 431 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: at one Bill's Drive Now, hats off to my man, 432 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: rest in peace, mister Ralph Wilson, my guy. But you 433 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: know what, he hired a guy in his organization that 434 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: Steve knows very well, and he negotiates some of Steve's contracts. 435 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: His name is jim overdoorf and Jimmy is still there 436 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: with the Bills, working with Brandon Being, and like you, 437 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: guys will talk about the cap going up and the 438 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: numbers is coming down, and they know things ahead of time. 439 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: These two guys, along with a ka big Baller Being 440 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: as they call him. You know, I can see big 441 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: things for this franchise always being available to have a 442 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 1: possibility of winning a Super Bowl every year because the 443 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: team will be entertaining and be great and be good. 444 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: I applaud them. I applaud. I applause Stefan Diggs. I 445 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: applaus Stefan Dicks would be in a team player now 446 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: the individual players like some of these selfish superstars are. 447 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: He loves Buffalo. He always represents Buffalo, always seeks highly 448 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: a Buffalo, not only the team, but he speaks about 449 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: the fans of the communities. And I applaud. This is 450 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: a win win situation for the Buffalo Bills along with 451 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs family and his future family and down the road, 452 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: I can see other things. Now. I believe it's gonna 453 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: be one more chip. I don't know. You might disagree 454 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: before the draft, maybe because some players that's coming up 455 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: on our football team that's gonna be in contract negotiations 456 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: next year. And I know maybe the Giants might need 457 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: a couple of players. But maybe Edmanson Singletary to the 458 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: Giants for I don't know, maybe Berkley in the second 459 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: round pick. I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there. 460 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't know for facts. I'm just but anyway, back 461 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: to the point of the conversation, it's an outstanding day 462 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: for us. And I love you both. I love your families. 463 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: God bless you. And thank you so much for taking 464 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: on call. Okay, but but you can call back anytime. 465 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: It's just very had made me feel it's very he's 466 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: very head. It's easy to do that on a day 467 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: like today, no question. I mean all of us wake 468 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: wake up, and you know we've all we've all got 469 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: social media. And if your phone wasn't blowing up today 470 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: over the Steph Diggs thing, then you got to reevaluate 471 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: your friendship, your friendship circle, or your phone plan or 472 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: your phone plan you because I mean I I couldn't 473 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: get I would couldn't get away. I had stuff to 474 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: do this more I could not get away from it. Yeah, 475 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: and uh, I will only disagree with Butch on this subject. 476 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: I don't see the Bills trading pieces away that played 477 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: an integral part in them being the team that they 478 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: were last year and the team that they should be 479 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: this year. You know, he's thrown around names and I 480 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: know he was just spitballing. They're not They're not gonna 481 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: move Tremaine Edmonds or Devin Singletary in a year where 482 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: they are going for the whole kitten caboodle. You don't 483 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: subtract from a roster that is Super Bowl contend you're worthy, 484 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: you know, just because you're worried about contracts coming up 485 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: next year. You address that next There's too many unknowns 486 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: about the new players that are going to come in 487 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: in the draft. No, you don't know who they're gonna be. 488 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: You've got a short list, but a short list is 489 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: even the guys on that list that's short. You don't know. 490 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: You don't know what these guys are gonna do there. 491 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: You can't tell the future. You have more dependability on 492 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: guys who have actually played for you and who have 493 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: played in the league. Guys like Steph Days, guys like 494 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: von Miller, Guys like Tremaine Edmunds, Josh Allen. You can 495 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: go down the list. You know, Dawson knocks down the list, Milano. 496 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: They've got guys they know play at this league and 497 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: play at a high level. Trading one of these guys 498 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: that you've You've got you to the playoffs four out 499 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: of five years, got you the AFC Championship, got you 500 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: playing at an elite level late last year. You're not 501 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: gonna undermine anything about that chemistry project by giving some 502 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: of it away for a question mark coming in, No 503 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: matter how good that question mark is or how how 504 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: big the upside is, because here's the thing, the fragility. 505 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: This culture is really good, there's no question about it. 506 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: But it's good because they have cultivated it and they've 507 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: done things to strengthen it. And what happens is if 508 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: somebody leaves and like, for instance, a guy like John 509 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: Feliciano or you know, some of these guys that they 510 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: couldn't bring back this year, Daryl Williams, Darryl Williams, you 511 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: know you gotta not only do you have to replace 512 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: their production, you gotta replace the persons. They got really 513 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: good friends, strong friendships on this team. Is it gonna 514 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: be the same for Josh when he comes in and 515 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: Feliciano isn't there next to him in the locker? Is 516 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: it going to be the same for Dion Dawkins when 517 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: he comes in and Darryl Williams, who has been his 518 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: buddy for two years has gone. Subtractions can deflate the 519 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: culture you've tried to cultivate. So you don't want to 520 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: say goodbye to important pieces something you have to at 521 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: some point. You know we all get that, but you 522 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: don't know how that's gonna You know, you bring guys 523 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: in and man they've made the culture great, which elevates everybody. Well, 524 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: when you take guys away, sometimes it has an exponential 525 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: effect in the negative because now you don't have anybody 526 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: to fill that guy's role emotionally in the locker room. 527 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: You don't have anybody to speak up where his voice 528 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: should have spoken up. You don't have anybody to step 529 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: up when that guy would have stepped up, and it 530 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: makes a difference. So it's Those are subtleties about, you know, 531 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: human nature and what it's like to be in a 532 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: family atmosphere, in a work atmosphere, in a locker room 533 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: that are hard to predict. So you don't want to 534 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: mess with those very much. Yeah, we have to take 535 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: a break here, more of your phone calls when we return, 536 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Larry in Portland, New York. Hang tight. You'll be first 537 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,239 Speaker 1: after the break, along with others holding at eight oh 538 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: three five fifty. We'll also be bringing you some comments 539 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: from Ryan Bates, who put pen to paper on his 540 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: offer sheet. Match by the Bills now signed up for 541 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: the next four years, so we'll get you some of 542 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: the more poigned comments from him as he met the 543 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: media yesterday after signing his contract back with plenty more 544 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: here in a second on One Bill's Live, Stay tune, 545 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live, Chris Brown Skip tasker 546 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: with you gonna go right to the phones here on 547 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: reported Stefan Diggs contract extension day, and it's like a 548 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: national holiday. I was going to say yet and waiting patiently. 549 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: There is Larry in Portland, New York. Don't even know 550 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: there was a Portland, New York. Larry, how you doing? 551 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Good? I was wondering 552 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with Jerry Hughes talk about the 553 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: locker room. He's been in there for a while and 554 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: he'd be a great addition on one side, Von Miller 555 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: on the other was any chance to get in Jerry 556 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: Hughes back? Well, I mean the new contract extension for 557 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs may open up an opportunity for that to 558 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: come to pass. They just didn't have a cap room 559 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: to entertain any kind of signing. Larry. That the conversation 560 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: may have changed now with the anticipated cap space that 561 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: the Diggs extension potentially creates, the Bills would be doing 562 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: themselves a disservice if they signed Diggs. To a contract 563 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: extension without affording themselves any cap space relief this year 564 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: or in twenty twenty three. Steve and I are not 565 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: betting men, but we would surmise that Brandon Bean, you know, 566 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: when the contractgotiation staff that includes Jim Overdorff and Kevin 567 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: me Yank thought enough to have some kind of benefit 568 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: in there for the Bills and cap space, knowing they 569 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: needed some not only to sign their own draft class, 570 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: but maybe to make one or two more veteran moves 571 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: and additions to the roster. And this is the time 572 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: of year when the Bills typically will sign somebody to 573 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: a one year veteran contract for you know, not big money, 574 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: but you're reasonable money. And do they sign a veteran 575 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: corner to a one year deal for three and a 576 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: half four million dollars? Do they resign Jerry Hughes for 577 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: one year three and a half million dollars? Those are 578 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: the kinds of contracts that might be palatable now provided 579 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: that the dig's extension created the cap space. We think 580 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: it probably did. There's no yeah, it's not officially yet, 581 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: but obviously it's been reported by some pretty credible sources. 582 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: So I think what you can expect and take for 583 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: granted that happened already. Is that when Jerry Hughes contract 584 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: ran out, the representation of Jerry and the Bills had 585 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: a conversation. The Bill said, here's our number, and here's 586 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: what we'd be willing to think about whether it was 587 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: and it may be the fact that they may push 588 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: it down the road too. They may give you a 589 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: two year deal with one of the years being avoidable, 590 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But overall, you're gonna get this 591 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: much money from us. But we understand you've been making 592 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 1: a ton of money up till now. Go out test 593 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: the markets, see what teams want to do, see if 594 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: who's willing to bring you in and give and you know, 595 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: call us when you're ready to sign with them, and 596 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe if you want to stay that they'll 597 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: say that. You know, he'll be able to go out 598 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: and get the top dollar and the Bills will tell 599 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: him that we can't go over this or this or this, 600 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: you know, and if it exceeds that, he'll know. But 601 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: trust me, those conversations probably happened in the lead up 602 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: to this. The fact that he's still out there always 603 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: gives you hope that there's a chance that the Bills 604 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: will say, Jerry, you know, are this offer for one 605 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: year still stands? Yeah? And we don't we don't know 606 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: what the conversations have been like, whether there have been 607 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: any at all, whether there have been some When were 608 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: those conversations. Maybe they you know, Jerry said, well are 609 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: you saying no? And maybe Brandon Being saying I didn't 610 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: say no, I just said not now right, this contract 611 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: extension for Diggs, maybe that opens the door again to 612 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: resume those kinds of conversations to see if something can 613 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: get done, if in fact the Bills want to return 614 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes to the fold. We do. The only thing 615 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: we know about Jerry Hughes is what Brandon Being told us, 616 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: which is Jerry said he does still want to play 617 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: football because he's thirty three years old. I can't remember 618 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: if he's going to turn thirty four before the season starts, 619 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: but he's getting up there. I mean, let's let's be honest. Yeah, 620 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, and it's really it seems it 621 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: might be. I mean, given what's happened with Steph Diggs 622 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: and all these guys and all the you know, the 623 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: warm fuzzy feelings everybody seems to have for each other. 624 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: The Bills might just say, Jerry, don't sign with anybody. 625 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: Here's what we're thinking, but it's not going to happen 626 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: until a couple of weeks before training camp. Just stay 627 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: in shape, get ready to play, and we'll sign you 628 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: to a one year deal in this range before training camp. 629 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: We'd love to have you back, but if you get 630 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: a better offer out there, yeah, okay, fine, but here's 631 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: what we're thinking, because we got some moves we're gonna make, 632 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: and our CAP's gonna go from zero to flush to 633 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: zero again, and then we're gonna have you know, and 634 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: by the time training camp comes around, we'll see if 635 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: we've got that money and we're gonna try to have 636 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: it ready for you to cake sign this one year deal. 637 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: That could all happen. You get the feeling that Brandon 638 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: Bean is kind of that honest and upfront with the 639 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: guys under the roof who've been under his roof. Yeah, 640 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 1: you know, I get the feeling the Bills do kind 641 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: of talk frank with these guys. They're totally honest with 642 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: him and the players really and like I knew they 643 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: know they would, and they take it they love it, 644 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: they really appreciate it. Yes, I would say that is true. Yeah, 645 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: there's something now, And obviously we'll wait until the numbers 646 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 1: come out to see what kind of cap space really 647 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: was created for the Bills on their current cap this year, 648 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: knowing they had to clear a little bit more space 649 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: for their own rookie class coming in via the draft 650 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: and undrafted rookie signings and the like, but knowing that 651 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean is always surveying the landscape, if there is 652 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: appreciable cap space created, I think I think there is 653 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: a fair likelihood that there could be another addition, maybe 654 00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: two to the roster before we get to the draft, 655 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: just my feeling on it. We wanted to address the 656 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: Ryan Bates contract, which became official after he signed it 657 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: earlier this week. So he is signed, sealed, and delivered 658 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: on a new four year deal worth a reported seventeen 659 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: million dollars. But it wasn't just a straight run of 660 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: the mill signing by any means. He was a restricted 661 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: free agent, and even though he was tender to qualifying 662 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: offered by the Bills, which gave them the right of 663 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: first refusal and the right to match any contract offer 664 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: he might receive. The Bear signed him to an offer 665 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: sheet the Bills chose to match. So it was a 666 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: little bit of a harrowing week for Bates because we 667 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: found out yesterday that his desire and he expressed this 668 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: to Brandonby at the end of the season, was to 669 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: remain in Buffalo with the Bills. So after the Bear 670 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: signed him to an offer sheet, which was life altering 671 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: money for his family, it's you can't say no to that, 672 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: you can't pass on that. So you sign the offer 673 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: sheet and you hope for the best. And the Bills 674 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: came through for him as he was able to get 675 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,479 Speaker 1: the best, to have his cake and eat it too, 676 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: quite literally, got a big contract, got to stay with 677 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: the team he wanted to play for. So here is 678 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Bates on what it means to him that the 679 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: Bills made the effort to match the Bears offer sheet. 680 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: It meant a lot, you know, like I talked about earlier, 681 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, I told being I want to be I 682 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: want to stay in Buffalo, and you know, thankfully, you know, 683 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: God works in sterious ways and I get opportunity to 684 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: come back here and you know, compete for a Super Bowl. 685 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: It's very gratifying. You know, his past three years have 686 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: been a long three years. I felt like um now, 687 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: but at the same time it's flown by, you know, 688 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: and you know I come in. I came in as 689 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. You know, you know in my mindset, 690 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm not changing my mindset at all. I'm even though 691 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: i might be getting paid more money, I'm still grinded. 692 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: You know, like as an undrafted free agent, the first 693 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: three years you're undrafted, and the NFL you're undrafted until 694 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: you prove otherwise. And you know, I think the opportunity 695 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: to prove otherwise, but I'm not going to change my 696 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: mentality and how I talk every day and you know, 697 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: how I compete on the field. He's an example of 698 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: why undrafted players more often than not have longer careers 699 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: than top draft choices because they're that kind of mindset 700 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna play. I mean, having in any circumstance, having 701 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 1: a thankful attitude is a better place to be, even 702 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: in the worst circumstances if you can find something to 703 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: be thankful for, and undrafted guys or testament to that, 704 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: whenever you go walk into whenever you're thankful for the 705 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: stuff you've got whenever you feel like you're doing you 706 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: know you're doing better than you deserve. You're in a 707 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: much happier place than at any other point. And got 708 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, get your base. I mean, you're the guys. 709 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: The guys earned it. You can say what you want 710 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: about the crazy money and it is life altering. But 711 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: the guy played, he earned it. He came in in 712 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: the toughest of situations. And the waning moments are the 713 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: waning weeks of a very important season, a very successful season. 714 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: Guys are dropping around. The offensive line has been shuffled 715 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: all year. You come in and through your communication and 716 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: your playing ability and your attitude and your work ethic, 717 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the four other guys on your 718 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: offensive line, something clicks all for all five. Yet and 719 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: at the end, in the final two games, you're playing 720 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: as close to perfect as anybody in the NFL has 721 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: ever seen. Yeah, it's good for him to cash in 722 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: on and good for him to be thankful for it. 723 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: He understands life. I mean, good grief, and it's really 724 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: good to see. We have to take a break here, 725 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: But when we come back, in an era where workout 726 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: freaks are popularized on social media, we have one that 727 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: takes the cake in a way that I can't even describe. 728 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: I have yet to show it to one Steve Tasker. 729 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: He will witness it along with our MSG viewers next 730 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health. It's 731 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back to one Bills Live. 732 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: Chris Brownsny Tasker with you. We are in the pre 733 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: draft mode in which we see a lot of phenomenal 734 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: athletic performances, whether it's at the combine, people running blistering times, 735 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, like Terik wool in the University of Texas 736 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: San Antonio corner who ran a four two six, or 737 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: somebody vertical leaping forty two in Derek Stingley Junior, the 738 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: LSU corner just ran his forty today ran a four 739 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: to three three at LSU Pro Day. That's pretty fast. 740 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: This CFL receiver, however, may take the cake. Shy Moore, 741 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: who's got a few pretty viral acrobatic videos out there, 742 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: which includes him doing a backflip and dunking an oreo 743 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: in a glass of milk while flipping through the air, 744 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: has topped it. I am going to show Steve Shy 745 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: Moore with his latest acrobatic feat. He is about to 746 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: perform a backflip with a barbel in his hands, containing 747 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: two forty five pound plates in his hands. Roll the tape, 748 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: shy Ross, Sorry, shy Ross. So he's gonna do a 749 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: backflip for our radio listening audience with one hundred and 750 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: thirty five pounds in his hands. So all I'm gonna 751 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: say is it looks effortless when he does it. I 752 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: don't know how he does it, but one hundred and 753 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: thirty five pounds on the bar. He's holding it in 754 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: his hands, standing up and does a back flip, which 755 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: means you have to swing the lower half of your 756 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: body up and underneath the bar all the way over 757 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: and around and land on your feet again. Do you 758 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: think that's a trick? I mean, what team's he playing for? 759 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. He's not a CFL roster. I can 760 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: look it was a black and goal. It looks like 761 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: it might be the handling. I mean he throws it. 762 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: He almost uses the barbell as momentum. He throws the 763 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: weight up over his head and there's a lot of 764 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: coordination involved here. Yeah, because you screw that up, that 765 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: stays on your neck. Yeah, I'll say this, what'd you say, 766 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 1: Jay Edmonton, oklays for the Esca mos so it's golden green. 767 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: I guess shy Ross. I'll tell you that to me, 768 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: does not look like I mean, he throws that thing 769 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: around like it's nothing. It doesn't even look it looks 770 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: like it's doesn't look like one hundred and thirty five pounds, 771 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: but he does throw it down. He throws it down 772 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: like it's not I think those are thirty five pound 773 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: weights on the end kilos. Maybe they're kilos, well, that's 774 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 1: what they do, but it's a thirty five pound weight, 775 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: ten kilos something like that. I mean. Still, I mean, 776 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: let me just tell you something. You don't want to know. 777 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: How many of light years ahead of that is from 778 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: where I was as a player. I'm telling you I was. 779 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't even think about doing it backflip. It wouldn't 780 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: even cross my mind to be creative after Like, I 781 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: wonder if you could do a backflip holding the bar bill. 782 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: That's so far out of the realm of possibilities. Even 783 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: on my best day, Brownie, that was amazing, and I 784 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: was and I was a showoff. Well I know, and 785 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't have come up with that. That's pretty ridiculous. 786 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: Is that. It's pretty ridiculous. I mean, this is a 787 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,720 Speaker 1: guy that's done like he does, like a round off 788 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: into a backflip, and he does it on a football field, 789 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: and he's got a little table next to him and 790 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: a glass of milk, and he's got an oreo in 791 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: his hand, and he does a round off into a 792 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: back flip and while he is inverted in the air, 793 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: extends his arm dunks the oreo into the glass of milk, 794 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 1: and then when he lands, he pops it into his mouth. 795 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody. Oh here, it is right here. 796 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: Look at this. Come on, now, that's pretty good. Pretty good. 797 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: How you can even do anything remotely coordinated like that 798 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: with your butt over your head, that's a miracle to me. 799 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Here's a defense mechanism in my own head 800 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: that says, don't do anything that puts your butt over 801 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: your head. This guy's dunking oreos. Yeah, that's uh. I'll 802 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: say this, and I've said it, you know, talk about 803 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: the guys that they're in the league, and great athletes 804 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: around the world and who do crazy stuff like this 805 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: and stunts, and I love the fact that everybody's got 806 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: a camera and a phone now they you know, let's unbelievable. 807 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: Should put it out there. You love seeing it because 808 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: you've I've seen a ton of guys do a lot 809 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: of cool stuff that you wish you'd a had on camera. 810 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: And it's the world we live in. And I'll say this, 811 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: that's I don't know whether I like that. I think 812 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: the more impressive thing was the Barbel backflip, isn't it? Absolutely? 813 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean, especially if it's I've been able to do 814 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: a standing backflip and all of that, but to do 815 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: a standing backflip and then find the glass and put 816 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: the oreo in it while you're flipping it because you're 817 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 1: small and it's a split second. You gotta like. And 818 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure it took him like four or five tries 819 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: to get it or whatever. But man, oh man, the 820 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: Barbel backflip is really impressive. If those are real weights, 821 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: which I guess they are, he uses he throws the 822 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,280 Speaker 1: momentum of the weights over and maybe that makes it easier, 823 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: helps him swing through strong enough to do it. I 824 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: don't know. Well, here's the thing, because I'm thinking I'm 825 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: thinking like this. So if you're on a chinning bar 826 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: Steve and you're hanging, you know how you can kind 827 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: of create your momentum pulling, you know, pulling on it 828 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: and swinging. I'm wondering if he somehow found a way 829 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: to do that. But the thing is he's the one 830 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: holding the barbell. Yeah, like he's using it against his 831 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: own momentum. How does he pull it up and then 832 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: pulls his body up with it? You know, I don't 833 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: know how you do that? That's pretty awesome. I mean 834 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: that's like doing a back flip with an anchor. Yeah, yeah, 835 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: like how do you do that? Yeah, Shy Ross is 836 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: gonna be when maybe one of my new favorite internet athlete. 837 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by that. We gotta get a physics professor 838 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: on this to help us out, because I don't even 839 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: know how you would expect that to feel. When you're 840 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: doing it, you know how you get a feel like 841 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: you know what he's supposed to I don't. That's amazing. 842 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: Good for him, It's it was special. So that's why 843 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to show and I purposely didn't show it 844 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: to you because I wanted your initial reaction that's to 845 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: that to see what you thought, and i'd always say, hey, 846 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to think I'm really hard to impress because 847 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: I've seen some stuff and I've hung around with some 848 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: some dudes. Yeah, uh, that's kind of cool. That's pretty good. 849 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: That's kind of cool. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty cool. Now, 850 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: if you did that in the gym, here's the thing. 851 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: It's hard to do stuff. They're like, ohh okay, now 852 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: that you've seen I've seen you do it all, but 853 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 1: I can do it. You do you got. The big 854 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: thing is if you can do something like that and 855 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 1: everybody goes, I ain't even gonna try that. That's one 856 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: of those. That's one of those you you get up 857 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: there and hold that one hundred and thirty and feel 858 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: it and trying you're like, you don't even know where 859 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: to I wouldn't even know where to start. That's like, 860 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: you know what, bro, you win. I'd be on my 861 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: back with that thing on my throat. Oh yeah, that's 862 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: an emergency and I'm not happening and I'm not as 863 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: stiff by any means, but this this is out of 864 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: my league. Man. Yeah, that's that's really impressive because you 865 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: don't see any of those says, oh I can do that, 866 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: Let me try no, because you know the ramifications of 867 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: getting that wrong. Yeah you up, you know. Oh can 868 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: you imagine? It's amazing you swing that could go wrong? 869 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So yeah. Con kudos to Shy Ross. 870 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: That is uh, it's impressive. That's pretty impressive. All right, 871 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: break time for us second hour of the show. It's 872 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: time for a little ESPN influence senior NFL writer Bill Barnwell. 873 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: We'll be joining us as we talk draft with him 874 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: along with this crazy offseason we've seen in free agency. 875 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell up next here on one Bill Slive presented 876 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 1: by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve 877 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,280 Speaker 1: taster who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique. 878 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role players for you, 879 00:50:54,280 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: ste Steed a blimp. We're not even in the credit 880 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: beer of normalcy. All right, welcome to our number two 881 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you 882 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: one Bills Live and please to be joined now by 883 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: senior NFL writer for ESPN dot Com. It is the 884 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: one and only Bill Barnwell joining us. And before we 885 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: even came on the Air, Bill was already joking that, Hey, 886 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: I wonder if anything else is going to happen in 887 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 1: the world of the NFL in your time covering this league, Bill, 888 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: would you call this the wildest offseason ever? I, Man, 889 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: it's certainly up there, I think, just in the sheer 890 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: volume of stuff that has happened, and I think the 891 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: shockingness of it. You know, I think it was crazy 892 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 1: when Tom Brady left for the Buccaneers and free acy 893 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: maybe the best player in the history of the National 894 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: Football League leaving in free agency. But so much stuff 895 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: has happened that we weren't expecting. It mean, we weren't 896 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 1: expecting Vanta Adams to get traded with no notice. Who 897 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: weren't expecting Von Miller to go from seemingly resigning with 898 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: the Rams to resigning or designing with the Bills. Who 899 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 1: weren't expecting Matt Ryan ticket trade. We weren't expecting Russell 900 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: Wilson ticket traded and all that stuff, even if there 901 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: were some rumors about it here or there, like see 902 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: it all happened in the same offseason. Has been really crazy. Yeah. 903 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,760 Speaker 1: I was just reading today that there were trades, nine 904 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: trades that involved guys that went to the Pro Bowl 905 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: or have been to the Pro Bowl, and seven first 906 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: round draft picks have changed teams. It's it's just been unpressed. 907 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: It plus the fact that you know you've got the 908 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: you know, the names weren't just Pro Bowlers, they were 909 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Tyreek Hill and the like it. Do you 910 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: think that this precludes or enhances the chances that even 911 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: more movement is going to happen on Draft Day? With 912 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: so many teams being out of the first round and 913 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: so many teams having multiple first round picks, I think 914 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: there's gonna be more movement than normal. And I think 915 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,919 Speaker 1: there's a couple of reasons why. Number One, I think 916 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: so few teams have the draft sort of concentrated that 917 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, they're going to have the 918 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: flexibility to go after a guy. So if you're the Saints, 919 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: for example, you're just traded for that second first round pick, 920 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: I have to believe maybe they're not going to do this, 921 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: maybe they're going for someone else. But it certainly feels 922 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: to me like they make that trade because they want 923 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: to go get a quarterback. So I think when you 924 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 1: know maybe the quarterback they want isn't available, at five, 925 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: perhaps ahead of the Panthers. But if that quarterbacks there 926 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: on the board at five, I have to think the 927 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: Saint that's even though they have those two first round 928 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: picks now, are going to have a deal in place 929 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,399 Speaker 1: to move up and go out and get a quarterback. So, 930 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,439 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the case. I think there's 931 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna be plenty of players who for cap reasons might 932 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: get cut or might get traded after the draft. You know, 933 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,359 Speaker 1: I feel like this is going to be a very 934 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 1: active movement period until really the beginning of training camp. 935 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 1: And there's still a lot of guys out there like 936 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: Tyrn Matthew who are still free agents, So still a 937 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: lot of guys even to sign in places as we 938 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: sort of hit the tail end of free agents see here. 939 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that some of the quarterbacks that we 940 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 1: know around the league are in the mix to be 941 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: moved on drafting, like forstance, like a Baker Mayfield in Cleveland. 942 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, could Carolina or the Saints have their cross 943 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: hair set on him, ready to give up some things 944 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns. And now that Baker Mayfield has 945 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: become obsolete, I'll tell you what the Browns Shore hope. So, 946 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 1: I mean they have this, you know, eighteen million dollar 947 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: quarterback who I don't want to be rude, but I 948 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 1: don't think they really want anymore. And I think that's 949 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: the tough part is that, you know, everyone in the 950 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: NFL knows the Browns don't want Baker Mayfield, Baker Mayfield 951 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: doesn't want the Browns, and getting a team to take 952 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 1: on that whole contract, well, at the beginning of free agency, 953 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: when teams had cap space to work with and they 954 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: had money to work with and they weren't budgeting for 955 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: an eighteen million dollar quarterback, yeah, I think you could 956 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: make that work. Would have been not too hard to 957 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: get a deal done. We saw Carson went get traded 958 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,720 Speaker 1: for meaningful draft capital with the larger contract. But now 959 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars at the end of free agency, when 960 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: a lot of teams are either out of money or 961 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 1: maybe we only have a little bit of money to 962 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: work with in terms of their actual cash budget, that's 963 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: going to be a tougher one. So to me, I 964 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: think if you're the Panthers, then you are maybe drafting 965 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback at six, or you're not drafting a quarterback 966 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 1: at six. I think you're probably waiting on the market 967 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: because there's so few teams who would actually be interested 968 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: in taking on Baker Mayfield at this point of the 969 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 1: off stage, and so to me, I think that's one 970 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,399 Speaker 1: that might wait until the summer to get done. Your 971 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: colleague at ESPN, Adam Schefter, was the first to report 972 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: the contract extension for Stefon Diggs here in Buffalo, And 973 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: while I do believe that eventually a contract extension was 974 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: going to get done with him and the team anyway, 975 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: it's my opinion that the process got accelerated based on 976 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 1: the Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill trades of the last 977 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,280 Speaker 1: few weeks and those two players effectively turning the wide 978 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: receiver market on its ear. What what is the future 979 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position in terms of average annual salary? 980 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: Knowing you're gonna have some more big names coming up 981 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,439 Speaker 1: in the very near future next to offseason, whether you're 982 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: talking about Terry McLaurin, DK Metcalf players, I mean, are 983 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: they going to be asking for high twenties average annual 984 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: salary here? I mean? Where are we? I mean, why 985 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't you write, you know, if you're if you're a 986 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. Maybe you're not Davante Adams, maybe you're not 987 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: Tygreek Hill. But man, I mean if you hit free agency, 988 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 1: a lot of teams with the young quarterbacks, we're gonna say, hey, 989 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 1: we have to go out and get our guy. Look 990 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: at what happened with Josh Allen. Look at the leap 991 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: he took after the Bills got Stefon Diggs. We need 992 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: to get our Stefon Diggs. They're not the same kind 993 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: of player, of course, but to get that number one receiver, 994 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: that true top ten, top twelve guy at his position, 995 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: We're seeing teams are willing to pay not just thirty 996 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,240 Speaker 1: million dollars a year like Tyreek Hill got, but thirty 997 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: million dollars a year plus a first round pick. And 998 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 1: I think it's five picks for Tyreek Hiller Dante Adams. 999 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 1: I think is there a twenty eight million a year 1000 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 1: and the first and a second round pick as well? 1001 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: So you know, these teams are absolutely willing to pay 1002 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: premiums for these guys. So yeah, I think teams are 1003 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: going to have to make a difficult choice. Either you're 1004 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,959 Speaker 1: gonna be comfortable paying a wide receiver thirty million dollars 1005 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: per year, or you're going to be trading one of 1006 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 1: those guys and hoping you can find the next one 1007 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: in the draft. So I think that it's becoming a 1008 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: position now where outside of edge rusher, wide receiver is 1009 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: probably the second, I'm sorry, the third most valuable position 1010 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: in football, buying quarterback and behind edge rusher. Do you 1011 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 1: think that the league is going to be once again 1012 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: inundated with a bunch of rookie wide receivers who are 1013 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: on rookie contracts, who could really play. How long is 1014 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: this gonna last? This will be the third year in 1015 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: a row where you've got maybe maybe double digit wide 1016 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: outs who are thought that it could come in and 1017 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: contribute right away. Do you think this continues? I think 1018 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: it fluctuates. You know, I remember five years ago we 1019 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: were sitting here talking about the opposite, Oh, there's no 1020 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: good wide receivers coming into the NFL. We saw a 1021 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of guys like Alan Robinson and Sammy Watkins get 1022 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: big deals in free agency because teams had really been 1023 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: struggling to draft effective wide receivers. We saw guys were 1024 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: taking on the top ten like Corey Davis and Mike 1025 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 1: Williams have good careers a good solid starts, but not 1026 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: become the sort of you know, world beater, guaranteed number 1027 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: one superstar wide receiver people were hoping for. So I 1028 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: think it's fluctuates. I think there's going to be periods 1029 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: where it looks like there's just this boundless, endless amount 1030 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: of talent coming in, and there's gonna be a couple 1031 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: of years probably where we see guys, we see that 1032 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: position struggle, and I think that if you're you know, 1033 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: if you're a team that drafts and develops player as well, 1034 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: I think you have to be on top of that. 1035 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: And though, Okay, yeah, this year we have a pretty 1036 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: exciting crop coming in. Next year, not so much. Let's 1037 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: take our shot now as opposed to having to wait 1038 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: for next year when we might have to either spend 1039 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: a lot of money to get a guy or draft 1040 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: someone who's on as a active. Here in the first round, 1041 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: I realized that we still have a draft to get 1042 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: through here. Bill but with the AFC says it stands now, 1043 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 1: would you look at the Dolphins acquisitions and say they've 1044 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: pulled even with New England or even surpassed them as 1045 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: far as a divisional pecking order might go? Oh, that's 1046 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: a good question. I I would say they're probably neck 1047 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: and neck. You know, I think the Patriots still have 1048 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of work to do. It wouldn't be 1049 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 1: shocked if they went out and added the player or 1050 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: two over the next week or two before the draft. 1051 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 1: In fatally, maybe they're active in the post June first 1052 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: market to go after guys who aren't going to cost 1053 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: them compensatory picks and or they have that are actually 1054 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: they just trade a third and picks, so maybe they 1055 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: won't be quite as aggressive worrying about compensatory picks. Maybe 1056 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 1: there be more aggressive going out and going after players. 1057 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 1: But I think the Dolphins are probably close to done 1058 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: and I don't think the Patriots are close to done. 1059 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: So I think right now they're probably equal. But it 1060 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me at the Patriots did add more talent 1061 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: that puts them maybe lightly ahead of Miami, And of 1062 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: course I think both teams are well behind the Bills 1063 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,919 Speaker 1: at this point. Do you think in this current age 1064 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: and we see these teams shuffling around, it's it's unprecedented, 1065 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 1: you know the amount of guys that are changing teams 1066 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: in the contracts that we're seeing, and we've heard the 1067 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: old axiom that while this team's got a window that's open, 1068 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 1: and they got to strike while the iron is hot. 1069 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: The Rams and the Saints seemed to fly in the 1070 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: face of that, and really the only thing that got 1071 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: in their way, conceivably is the fact that for the 1072 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: first time in the history they league, the cap went 1073 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: down because of the pandemic. If the cap continues to 1074 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: rise and rise and rise, can teams keep their window 1075 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: open indefinitely? It's tough, you know. I think you have 1076 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: to have a balance. You can't just spend and spend 1077 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 1: and spend. We saw teams like the Saints, we did 1078 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: lose some talent this offseason. We saw the Cowboys have 1079 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: to lose some players this offseason. We saw who else. 1080 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: The Tennessee had to cut some guys this offseason, including 1081 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Roger Saffol who ended up with the Bills. The Chiefs 1082 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: had to trade Tyreek Hill so they didn't think they 1083 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: could afford him on a new contract at thirty million 1084 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: dollars per year. I think you have to balance it. 1085 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 1: You're going to have to lose a couple players here 1086 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: or there, but you're not gonna have to lose your 1087 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 1: entire team. You're not gonna have to cut your entire 1088 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 1: core of players like maybe some teams had to do 1089 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty years ago when the cap wasn't rising 1090 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: as much and teams were not as good at dealing 1091 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: with the cap as they are now. But the key 1092 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: thing is you have to draft well. And the Saints, 1093 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean they had an incredible draft a few years 1094 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: ago with the Ryan ram Check, Marshaw Lattimore, Alvin Kamara 1095 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: trade Hendrickson. I mean that is a a all time 1096 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: caliber draft for the Saints. So I think if you 1097 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: draft well, yes, because you're gonna was a couple of players, 1098 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: but you can replenish those with the guys you draft. Now, 1099 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: if you continue to spend money and you don't draft 1100 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: well or you trade away your draft picks, you can 1101 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: maybe make it work or the way the Rams did 1102 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: where everything comes together for one year, but it's going 1103 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 1: to be tougher to keep it up. The Rams of 1104 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: us a lot of talent this office. I mean Vy 1105 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 1: Miller has gone, Odell Beckham is gone, Andrew Wentworth retired 1106 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 1: and they weren't really able to reply. It's bringing in 1107 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 1: Joseph Nopoom, their backup tackle to be a starter. I mean, 1108 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: they're not as good of a team now as they 1109 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,919 Speaker 1: were when they won the Super Bowl. So I don't 1110 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 1: think it's an all or nothing thing. I think it's 1111 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: sort of a thing where you have to evolve and 1112 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: have to continue drafting well. It's going to be the 1113 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 1: core of any great football team in any era in 1114 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: the NFL Bill. I'm intrigued by the Pittsburgh Steelers and 1115 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 1: the decision they have to make in this draft as 1116 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: to quarterbacks, and as we know, it is not considered 1117 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 1: a strong quarterback class. It's certainly one that has zero consensus, 1118 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 1: it seems so with that in mind, and knowing based 1119 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: on a lot of reports that we've seen, the Steelers 1120 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 1: are literally beating the bushes anywhere a quarterback exists at 1121 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: the college level. They're having a bunch of them come 1122 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 1: in on thirty visits. I wonder how desperate Kevin Colbert's 1123 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: thinking is, Knowing he is an outgoing GM and undoubtedly 1124 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: wants to leave the franchise in good hands. I don't 1125 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,479 Speaker 1: think it's going to make him deviate from his core 1126 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: principles as a drafter for as long as he's done it. 1127 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 1: But it makes me wonder if his desire to set 1128 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: the team up for the future on his way out 1129 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: the door in any way compromises his draft principles where 1130 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: he could be convinced to reach for a quarterback even 1131 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 1: as low as twenty. I wouldn't be surprised, would be 1132 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 1: surprised if they traded up as well. I mean, the 1133 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: Steelers for years. The reason why they upset Antonio Brown 1134 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 1: ended up training Antonio Brown very briefly to the Buffalo Bills, 1135 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: but then to the then Oakland Raiders. The reason they 1136 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,919 Speaker 1: weren't able to get a Levy on Bell deal done 1137 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 1: but the which turned out fine. But the reason that 1138 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: those deals were not done in the first place was 1139 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: because they were not willing to guarantee multiple years of 1140 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: base salary. The one exception they made as an organization, 1141 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 1: the one place they were willing to do that was 1142 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: for a quarterback in Ben Roethlisberger. So to me, you know, 1143 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: I think whether teams will tell you that in public 1144 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 1: or not, whether they admit it to themselves or not, 1145 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: I do think the rules are different for quarterbacks. And 1146 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be shocked if they did go out and 1147 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: maybe you know, sort of go against some of the 1148 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: things they've done in the past and go out and 1149 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 1: get a quarterback by being more aggressive, because I think 1150 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 1: the risk reward is so impressive if you get a quarterback, 1151 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: because now look at I mean, quarterbacks are getting forty 1152 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,439 Speaker 1: almost forty five, maybe even close to fifty million dollars 1153 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 1: a year. If you're Aaron Rodgers, and if you can 1154 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 1: draft Malik will As at twenty and he's pretty good 1155 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: and you pay him six million dollars a year, well, 1156 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: that's a lot of money you've saved. Now it's been 1157 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 1: elsewhere on your roster. And I think if you're looking 1158 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: at that team, he say, Okay, we had basically you know, 1159 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: the last legs of Ben Roethlisberger or quarterback last year, 1160 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 1: and we still made it to the postseason. We can 1161 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: still pull that off. We have the defense to win 1162 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: if we can just get pretty decent quarterback players. So 1163 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: to me, I wonder if they're going to be in 1164 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: the market for Jimmy Garoppolo when Mcaroppolo's healthy. I wonder 1165 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 1: if they're going to be in the market for Baker Mayfield. 1166 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,439 Speaker 1: If the Browns are willing to do that, which would 1167 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 1: be fascinating on so many levels, and I think even 1168 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: if they make one of those moves, wouldn't shock me 1169 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: if they went out and drafted a quarterback as well. 1170 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 1: So to me, I think mister Bisky is going to 1171 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: be in the fold there. Mason Rodolph might get a shock, 1172 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 1: But I do think that for them it's an all 1173 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 1: hands on deck situation, and I think the rules that 1174 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: might apply for other positions might not apply for quarterback. 1175 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Bill's there's three team or six teams that have multiple 1176 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: first round picks, and if you're looking at the first 1177 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 1: round from you know, we're a million miles away from 1178 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: it now with two and a half weeks ago. What 1179 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 1: do you think, what team do you think is going 1180 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: to surprise people with its aggressiveness on day one? Because 1181 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,919 Speaker 1: I do you think there's going to be more moves? 1182 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,439 Speaker 1: I think you do? You already said that. What team 1183 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: do you think is hell bent on throwing a wrench 1184 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: into the first round? Particularly in the top ten? If 1185 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 1: anybody who so you're a team that's that a right 1186 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: is on the top ten or a team that might 1187 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 1: move into the top ten, either one one that's in 1188 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,439 Speaker 1: the top ten or one that wants to get into 1189 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: the top ten. Who do you think is going to 1190 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: be the team that says, listen, we're going to get 1191 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: this done no matter what. What about the Chiefs, where 1192 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs now have two first round picks at twenty 1193 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: nine and thirty, and we know they have a lot 1194 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,919 Speaker 1: of talent on that roster. They might need a wide 1195 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 1: receiver and they might say, Okay, we have to move 1196 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 1: up to go get that guy. We might not be 1197 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 1: able to get the guy we want at twenty nine. 1198 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 1: We might have to move up to you, if not 1199 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: at the top ten, maybe thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, to get 1200 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: into that ranch. I think the Saints I mentioned a 1201 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 1: team where the fact that they made this trade they 1202 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 1: gave up a future first rounder to get a first 1203 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: rounder this year and have two first rounders makes me 1204 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: think there's a quarterback they're in love with. I wonder 1205 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 1: if they're looking at the Giants at five, who already 1206 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: have two first round picks, and say, okay, we got 1207 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: to move ahead of the Panthers and go out and 1208 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 1: get our guy because in the long term, given our 1209 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: cap constraints, we have to have a cheaper option at quarterback. 1210 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 1: And then I look at the Falcons, a team that 1211 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,959 Speaker 1: I think Frank your tanking. I don't know that they're 1212 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: going to say publicly, but that team is a mess. 1213 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 1: They were one of the worst teams in football last year. 1214 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 1: They're very lucky to even be seven and ten. They 1215 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: just lost Matt Ryan. They have a ton of dead 1216 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 1: cap money, but one hundred and twenty million dollars in 1217 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: cap space next year. I wonder if they're a team 1218 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 1: where they're looking at, Okay, we're not one player away 1219 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 1: from being competitive. Maybe we should trade down. Maybe we 1220 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: should treat into a team that wants to get ahead 1221 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: of the Seahawks and get ahead of the Jets and 1222 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: go out, maybe get one of those quarterbacks, if the 1223 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks might be considering one with the ninth overall picks. 1224 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 1: So I think you know, yes, these quarterbacks. It's not 1225 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 1: the class we've heard from in year's past. It's not 1226 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: maybe as impressive. There's no guaranteed superstars by any means. 1227 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: But the famous story is it only takes one to 1228 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,960 Speaker 1: fall in love. You only need to have one team 1229 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 1: fall in love with you to go out and get you. 1230 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 1: So I would not be surprised if there are teams 1231 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 1: who do make moves for quarterbacks, even if they might 1232 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: be the only ones who think that quarterback is a 1233 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 1: top ten pick heading into this year's tract. He is 1234 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 1: ESPN senior NFL writer Bill Barnwell. Bill, thanks for giving 1235 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 1: us time here. We know you're busy this time a year, 1236 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 1: so we appreciate it. Bless your guys anytime. All right, 1237 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: that's Bill Barnwell joining us here on the show, and Steve, 1238 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: I'll pitch it to you too, because I have to 1239 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 1: tell you this. What what is facing the Steelers right 1240 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 1: now reminds me a lot of the Bills in twenty thirteen. 1241 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:28,879 Speaker 1: Buddy Knicks was entering his final draft as GM of Buffalo, 1242 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 1: and he was hell bent on setting the team up 1243 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 1: with a franchise quarterback on his way out the door. 1244 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: And the Steelers are in the same exact boat right now, 1245 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 1: with an equally lousy quarterback class. Quarterback class. And here's 1246 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,639 Speaker 1: the thing. I wonder if he deviates from his core 1247 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: principles as a draftman because he's so desperate to set 1248 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: the team up for the future and ends up reaching 1249 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: for somebody he probably I don't think they reach. I 1250 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 1: think they see what they've got in Trebisky. They've got 1251 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: a guy that's got some upside. He may not be 1252 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 1: he may be a bridge quarterback, but it doesn't mean 1253 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: he has to be a one year and out. I 1254 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: think he could be much better than that. I think, Yeah, 1255 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: I think they could live with him for the full length. 1256 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: I think he got a two year contract. They don't 1257 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 1: have a problem paying him for two years because even 1258 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 1: if he's this year, he's the guy and they don't 1259 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,640 Speaker 1: have a drafted rookie to come in. They got him 1260 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: for another year and they could draft a guy next 1261 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: year and maneuver that draft. So I think they or 1262 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 1: trade for a guy next year, like everybody else seems 1263 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 1: to have done. Yeah, I don't think they have a 1264 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 1: problem doing any of that, and I don't think they're 1265 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll make that mistake. I don't think 1266 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers make the kind of mistakes that some other 1267 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: franchises have made in the past, and usually they're not 1268 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: one to deviate. But it's uncanny the parallels here. Yes, 1269 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,839 Speaker 1: I remember in twenty thirteen he Nicks was beating the bushes. 1270 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean he was under the nose of every quarterback 1271 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 1: prospect traveling hither and yon to. I mean, I remember 1272 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,720 Speaker 1: him saying when I'm when I'm scouting prospects, I need 1273 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,080 Speaker 1: to smell their breath. That's what he used to say, 1274 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: because he wants to be that up close and personal 1275 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,719 Speaker 1: with them. He's flying down to Florida State, He's watching 1276 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 1: EJ Manuel's pro day workout. He's going over here to 1277 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 1: Ryan Nassi at Syracuse, and I mean he's he was everywhere. 1278 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 1: He was at Arkansas for Tyler Wilson. I mean he 1279 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 1: was scouting every guy with an arm and he was 1280 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,479 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl interview and every one of them 1281 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 1: and watching them closely, staying at one end of the 1282 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 1: field for every practice. I mean, it was uncanny. He 1283 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,599 Speaker 1: was so resolutely committed. And the Bills had the eighth 1284 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: pick that year. They traded back to sixteen, and the 1285 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 1: people in the room. People in the room told Buddy, hey, 1286 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: you can trade back again and still get your quarterback. 1287 01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: And he was so dead set on getting a quarterback. 1288 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: He didn't want to move back again and miss and 1289 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 1: have his pick of the litter. He took EJ. He 1290 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 1: got his guy with DJ. But the simple fact of 1291 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 1: matter is, I'll tell you this too, and I felt 1292 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 1: this way back then. If you throw those quarterbacks out there. Again, 1293 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,800 Speaker 1: EJ is still the one you pick. Well he is, 1294 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: And look, you know, the reasons EJ did not pan 1295 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 1: out here go far beyond the pick itself. There's no 1296 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 1: secret that player development was sorely lacking here for a 1297 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 1: long time. At the coaching level and developing players, most 1298 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,560 Speaker 1: notably quarterbacks, was a monumental issue, not only because you 1299 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 1: didn't have the player development in place, but you were 1300 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 1: constantly churning the coaching staff and the offensive schemes every 1301 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: other year, and that doesn't help a young quarterback either. Yeah, 1302 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, it was a tough time. You know, 1303 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 1: we didn't have the drafts and the Capitol and the drafts, 1304 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: the guys coming out who were of the quality they 1305 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: have been late up until this year. Over the last 1306 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 1: four or five years, you know, you didn't have even 1307 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,840 Speaker 1: one or two of those guys. It was they were 1308 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 1: weak for a long time. And I think now, you know, 1309 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: since Mahomes has come into the league, and a little 1310 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: bit before Mahomes a teams and coaching staffs and philosophies 1311 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL have graduated and evolved to the point 1312 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 1: where they can work with a guy in a much 1313 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 1: more effective way than they've ever been able to together 1314 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 1: before in order to get them to play better. They 1315 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 1: may never be a world champion or may never be that, 1316 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 1: but at least you can win games with the guy 1317 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 1: if you have certain other things in place. It used 1318 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 1: to be, and I'm telling you it was not that 1319 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,200 Speaker 1: long ago where they get a quarterback and they expect 1320 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,639 Speaker 1: him to fit inside a pro offense. Let's go drop 1321 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 1: back and throw it. Now, it couldn't be further from that. 1322 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: It's more collegiate like of that era. It's more collegiate 1323 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 1: like now, and guys let quarterbacks do what they do best, 1324 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 1: even if it's limited. They're hard to beat that way, 1325 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: so you have more success that way. But even so, 1326 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,679 Speaker 1: this is a tough class to be picking a franchise quarterback. 1327 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 1: That's the issue for me. You're trying to find a 1328 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,600 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback in a year where there is no consensus 1329 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 1: and no true top guy, true top two guys, true 1330 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 1: top This is pretty good, he's got some traits well, sure, 1331 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: But and here's the thing, there's a lot of quarterbacks 1332 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 1: that have been drafted. The Steelers are sitting there looking 1333 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,040 Speaker 1: at Lamar Jackson twice a year and knowing what kind 1334 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 1: of problems he gives them. If Malik Willis can be 1335 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying an MVP, but if he 1336 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 1: gives them more in the passing game and a little 1337 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,560 Speaker 1: bit of what Lamar does in the running game, and 1338 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,240 Speaker 1: they're willing to make that move and migrate towards that 1339 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of offense, Okay, I'll talk about it, but that's 1340 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,680 Speaker 1: what you're looking at. The Steelers have got to transform 1341 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 1: their roster if they're gonna pick a guy and start 1342 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,600 Speaker 1: looking like the Ravens look with Lamar, the risk is 1343 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,360 Speaker 1: considerably higher for teams that need a franchise quarterback in 1344 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 1: a year where the quarterback class is down. And there 1345 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 1: is no doubt that the quarterback class this year to 1346 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 1: me is down. To me, the Steelers did it right. 1347 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: If it's a class like this one, you do just yet, 1348 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,080 Speaker 1: you go out and you find somebody else, You get 1349 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 1: a guy who's at least proved has got a high floor, 1350 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: which the Steelers did. Mitch Trubisky's got a very high 1351 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 1: floor and an upside that's still yet to be realized. 1352 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 1: And I think they did it exactly right. Now. They 1353 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 1: may have tried to say Okay, you know what are 1354 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,919 Speaker 1: they gonna do? You think Cleveland's gonna give Baker Mayfield 1355 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: to the Steelers? No, And I don't know that they're 1356 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,960 Speaker 1: even interested. But I guess what that does do when 1357 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 1: you have Trubisky in the fold, is it maybe emboldens 1358 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 1: you even more to take a swing, even in a 1359 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 1: year where a quarterback class isn't strong. I just I 1360 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,080 Speaker 1: worry about them reaching a little bit. They. I think 1361 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: you got to think the Steelers are sitting there thinking 1362 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: we're better this year at quarterback when we were last year. 1363 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 1: Trubisky can play better than Ben. He can throw it better, 1364 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,600 Speaker 1: We'll see. Now, Ben's got some savvy and he's got 1365 01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 1: an arm that's his pinpoint accurate still, even though how 1366 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 1: tough can it be to throw it to six yards? 1367 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, Trubisky gives them something. 1368 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 1: And they went to the playoffs last year with a 1369 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 1: quarterback that they think maybe they upgraded from. So they've 1370 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: got to be feeling like, okay, you know what, we'll 1371 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 1: be all right, we're gonna be able to compete. But 1372 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 1: they were in a division without of Lamar Jackson in 1373 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 1: Baltimore as well, and Joe Burrow is still in their division. 1374 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 1: They gotta get better in a lot of ways. So 1375 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that they waste a draft pick on 1376 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 1: a kid that they don't know about that high. You 1377 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think they need They're 1378 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, we need some help, and we're gonna 1379 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 1: get it. Their offensive line needs help, the running backs. 1380 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Their secondary is a little bit decimated now. I mean, 1381 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: they got some issues. So I don't think they're gonna 1382 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,720 Speaker 1: swing for the fence because if you miss now, you're 1383 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,160 Speaker 1: stuck for a decade without that pick. You know, Oh 1384 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I got you. It's just uncanny the parallels here GM 1385 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 1: going out the door a week quarterback class. They're beating 1386 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 1: the bushes for a QB because if they do take 1387 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:09,519 Speaker 1: a swing and miss, they can blame it on the 1388 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,679 Speaker 1: last guy, right, the guy who left. Yeah, break time 1389 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 1: for us. Here more are your phone calls when we 1390 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: were returning Tyler and North Carolina. Hang tight. You'll be 1391 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,720 Speaker 1: first up after the break along with others holding an 1392 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 1: eight O three oh five fifty and we'll take a 1393 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 1: look at the tweet sheet as we have yet to 1394 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,479 Speaker 1: get to that as well. It's all coming up next 1395 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Line, present Abou Kalid to health. 1396 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One 1397 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 1: Bill's Live First Round. Steve Tasker with you, and back 1398 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 1: to the phones we go and to Tyler down in 1399 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 1: North Carolina. What do you got first? Tyler? Hey, how 1400 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 1: you guys are doing good? Good man? So I had 1401 01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 1: a couple of questions about free agency. Would like to 1402 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: get you guys take So my first question is, I 1403 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 1: noticed that there's a lot of Bills players that we 1404 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,240 Speaker 1: let go that are still sitting in free agency. Wanted 1405 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 1: to know if you, if you guys would want any 1406 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 1: of those players back, maybe give them back at a 1407 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 1: low cost deal. Me personally, the idea of having Star 1408 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 1: and maybe Darryl Williams back sounds really good. And I 1409 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 1: was hoping from my second question, I was hoping you 1410 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 1: guys could explain to me the defense of scheme that 1411 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 1: the Bills predominantly run, particularly the coverage. I've seen articles 1412 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 1: talking about how the Bills have kind of reached out 1413 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: to Stefan Gilmore, but he seems to be more of 1414 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 1: a man corner and from my understanding, the Bills run 1415 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 1: More's zone. Dude, you think that he would even be 1416 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 1: a good fit, especially given his age and what he's 1417 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,479 Speaker 1: good at compared to what the Bills predominantly run. Just 1418 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 1: wanted you guys to answer those questions for him. Yeah, 1419 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,320 Speaker 1: you want to start with scheme there, Steve. Yeah, deep. 1420 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,640 Speaker 1: They run every every defense runs everything. They do what 1421 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 1: they do best, no question, Steph Gilmore, there was some 1422 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,840 Speaker 1: taught And I remember when you said that, when you 1423 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 1: said that, Tyler, I remember when Steph was let go 1424 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,639 Speaker 1: during free agency. It was right at it was two 1425 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: thousand what year was at two thousand six sixteen, Yeah, 1426 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 1: it was before Sean McDermott actually got here. And at 1427 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: the time they let him go speak, people pooh pooed 1428 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,040 Speaker 1: it because I and they said, well, this skill set 1429 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 1: really didn't match and all out they weren't really excited 1430 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 1: about bringing him back. But the guy can play, and 1431 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 1: at this advanced stage, he'd be an asset for any 1432 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:27,960 Speaker 1: team that can get him, if you can get him 1433 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 1: for the right price. And you know that's so. The 1434 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 1: Bills run more man than a lot of people give 1435 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,479 Speaker 1: him credit for more man last year, right, the previously right, 1436 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,000 Speaker 1: They had been a zone predominant team in years past, 1437 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,840 Speaker 1: but they ran a little bit more man this last year, 1438 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,280 Speaker 1: and I think they're willing to do that at times. 1439 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,839 Speaker 1: A lot of quarters. Yeah, they with the two safeties 1440 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,439 Speaker 1: they have, they're very versatile. They disguise it really well, 1441 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,040 Speaker 1: and they get a lot of cashe from the fact 1442 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,519 Speaker 1: that the quarterback has to take an extra half second 1443 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 1: to decipher what the Bills are doing because of the 1444 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 1: two says safeties, So zone or man, that's where they're 1445 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,879 Speaker 1: getting a little bit of advantage in their defensive schemes. 1446 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,560 Speaker 1: As for the free agents, and you can take about it. 1447 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 1: Talking about it too, we talked about Jerry Hughes coming 1448 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,800 Speaker 1: back and you said Starr and Darryl Williams. Yeah, all 1449 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 1: those guys are possibilities. And I'm sure given the relationship 1450 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:24,559 Speaker 1: and the atmosphere that we've heard other guys who leave 1451 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,599 Speaker 1: and who come to Buffalo or resigned with Buffalo from 1452 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,840 Speaker 1: the players in the locker room. The Bills didn't burn 1453 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 1: those bridges with Star with you know, with Darryl Williams 1454 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 1: the way they didn't burn it with Shack Lawson and 1455 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. So we'll see, and as long as those 1456 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 1: guys are out there and available, yes, there is hope 1457 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,679 Speaker 1: that those any of those guys resigned. My only question 1458 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,479 Speaker 1: with respect to the free agents mentioned there is Daryl Williams. 1459 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,800 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is not because I 1460 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 1: don't believe he's a more than capable guard. He's a 1461 01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,120 Speaker 1: pretty good player. But with Aaron Cromer coming in the 1462 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,960 Speaker 1: new offensive line coach, the last time he was here, 1463 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 1: their guards were pretty dang mobile, mobile players that could 1464 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 1: get out and pull, get out in front of a 1465 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 1: running back, execute screen passes. And Darryl Williams is more 1466 01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 1: of a stand in there and grind type guard road 1467 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 1: greater type in the run game, not out there pulling, 1468 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 1: not out there getting in front on a screen. And 1469 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 1: so I wonder if the prerequisite for guards in this 1470 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 1: offense with Aaron Cromer as the old line coach, leans 1471 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,799 Speaker 1: to a more mobile type of player. And I'm basing 1472 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,920 Speaker 1: that on the fact that Roger Staffold was a guy 1473 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 1: they targeted who is a mobile guard. Ryan Bates was 1474 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,960 Speaker 1: brought back into the fold. He's a relatively mobile player. 1475 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's enough evidence to definitively say 1476 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 1: anything or declare anything, but it's piquing my interest and 1477 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,400 Speaker 1: it makes me wonder if a three forty five pound guard, 1478 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,120 Speaker 1: which is what Darryl Williams is, is it fit for 1479 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 1: what Aaron Chromer wants to do technique wise and for 1480 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey play call wise. It's interesting you say that 1481 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 1: because Tyler's question was about the defensive scheme and how 1482 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 1: Steph Diggs would fit or wouldn't fit. And you know, 1483 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,560 Speaker 1: it might be that, you know, Daryl Williams and the 1484 01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 1: guards that we're talking about might be the scheme fit 1485 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,240 Speaker 1: that that causes him not to be resigned rather than 1486 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: Steph Diggs and his Steph Gilmore and his skill set. 1487 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, it works both ways. And you're right. I 1488 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 1: think they probably do want versatile guards who can get 1489 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 1: out and run at least if they want to. But 1490 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that about Chromer. But you're right, they 1491 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 1: may have a scheme set in mind, and I don't 1492 01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 1: know that. I'm just speculating and seeing the makeup of 1493 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 1: Saffold and the player. He's been for a very long time. Mobile, 1494 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 1: big strong, can get out and move. He diversifies your 1495 01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:00,200 Speaker 1: offense because of his mobility, you know, And maybe maybe 1496 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 1: they believe that Staffold and Morse are enough and that 1497 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 1: you know what, we got these two guys that can 1498 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,200 Speaker 1: get out and pull, get in front of the screen, whatever, whatever. 1499 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,720 Speaker 1: So if we have a big hoss at the right 1500 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 1: guard spot, we're okay. We can live with that. Maybe 1501 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,679 Speaker 1: they decide that and maybe Williams is back, But maybe 1502 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 1: they have a specific skill set that they want in 1503 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,040 Speaker 1: their guards with Cromer here now, and maybe that job 1504 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 1: description isn't a perfect fit for the skill set that 1505 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,519 Speaker 1: Darryl Williams has to offer. I'm just speculating. I don't 1506 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 1: know that. I'll say it again, as long as they're 1507 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 1: out there in the free agent market, there's a chance 1508 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,760 Speaker 1: they'd come back. And I think that even if a 1509 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 1: guy like Daryl Williams camp, you know, doesn't get a 1510 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,479 Speaker 1: job off or any place else and wants to come 1511 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,439 Speaker 1: back and play the very least he would be a 1512 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,080 Speaker 1: depth piece. But he's played extremely well for this club 1513 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, and I think they'd 1514 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 1: be more than willing to resign him under any circumstances. 1515 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,760 Speaker 1: I can if they can fit him under the number 1516 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 1: they want to fit him at, because he was paid 1517 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 1: like a tackle after his first year here, then got 1518 01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,640 Speaker 1: moved down to guard and he got a year a 1519 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:04,720 Speaker 1: guard in playing guard with tackle money. And so they 1520 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: like him because he was on the when he was 1521 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,679 Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bill. The guy was on the field every game. 1522 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, they would love to have him back because 1523 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: even if he doesn't get on the field for this team, 1524 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,040 Speaker 1: you know that when you do plug him in, he's 1525 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,560 Speaker 1: going to be able to go. So I'll say it 1526 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 1: the last time. If former Buffalo Bills are still out 1527 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,240 Speaker 1: on the free agent market, there is hope that they 1528 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 1: will resign with the Buffalo Bills under some circumstance. Let's 1529 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 1: get to the tweet sheet, which is brought to you 1530 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of 1531 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,479 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What concerns, if any, do you have 1532 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty two Bills offense. This is a 1533 01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 1: pretty broad subject because I don't think it only deals 1534 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,920 Speaker 1: with what's on the field, but maybe off the field 1535 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:52,400 Speaker 1: as well, concerning salary, cap, contracts, etc. New coaches, new coaches. Right, 1536 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Jason leads us off and says, yes, I'm concerned they're 1537 01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,879 Speaker 1: going to score too many points and embarrass their weekly opponent. 1538 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 1: Very clever, Jason. Let me see the humor. Jack says, 1539 01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,599 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about our offense provided we can minimize injuries. 1540 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 1: Pass catchers are excellent. Seventeen is at the helm, leading 1541 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,200 Speaker 1: the charge with his pivot and edges protected, and Singletary 1542 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,439 Speaker 1: came into his own. We're five. Only minor concern is 1543 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 1: will the new guards gel with the old line quickly? 1544 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:27,240 Speaker 1: And new coaches must step up. I really think Steve, 1545 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:32,720 Speaker 1: the bigger concern here is how is the coaching going 1546 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,040 Speaker 1: to change the play calling going forward? And I'm not 1547 01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 1: saying it's going to be better or worse than the same, 1548 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 1: but it is going to be different just by virtue 1549 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,519 Speaker 1: of the fact it's a different person. Yeah, and you 1550 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,080 Speaker 1: got a new offensive line coach and he might have 1551 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:52,920 Speaker 1: two new offensive lineman and a group of five. Yeah, 1552 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 1: there'll be an adjustment period for sure. Different skill sets 1553 01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,439 Speaker 1: and a new coach at the offensive line and a 1554 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator. They may see things differently, and they 1555 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,800 Speaker 1: may have they may want to try something, They may 1556 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 1: want to try some things they weren't able to do before, 1557 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,439 Speaker 1: and all the all the details and all the ripple 1558 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,000 Speaker 1: effects of that. But I think the best thing is 1559 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,760 Speaker 1: that when they start from day one, it's going to 1560 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 1: be the verbiage that everybody in the room who's been 1561 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 1: here is going to recognize. And then they just start 1562 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 1: out by saying, Okay, basically, guys are gonna try this, 1563 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, And then the offensive line coach 1564 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,439 Speaker 1: will get his big guys up there and he'll say, listen, 1565 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,080 Speaker 1: here's why we're going to think and here's why we're 1566 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,640 Speaker 1: gonna do this, and you know, so they start to 1567 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 1: explain it. But at least they'll start with the with 1568 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,360 Speaker 1: the vocabulary that they all know, and that's that will 1569 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,960 Speaker 1: put them weeks ahead of schedule from where they would 1570 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,080 Speaker 1: have been had it been an offensive coordinator came from 1571 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,200 Speaker 1: outside and chain and put a whole new system in. 1572 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 1: So all that is is a plus. And there's no talent. 1573 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 1: It could look This offense could look very different, you know, 1574 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 1: until they snap it and Drash throws back to throw. 1575 01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 1: Then I'm pretty sure it's going to look a lot alike. 1576 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,439 Speaker 1: The running game is what I think may change more 1577 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 1: than anything. It's funny you mentioned that Dean on the 1578 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,679 Speaker 1: tweet sheet says, I still think we need another receiver, 1579 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,920 Speaker 1: maybe John Brown, question Mark. I don't know. If that's 1580 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,719 Speaker 1: going to happen, straight line speed and a real running 1581 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 1: back to get some of these third and twos or 1582 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 1: threes that we rely on Josh too much for. It 1583 01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:23,240 Speaker 1: was interesting hearing Sean McDermott, not only at the combine, 1584 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 1: but at the owner's meetings too, addressing that their run 1585 01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:32,759 Speaker 1: game has to evolve. And he didn't say it outright, 1586 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:37,479 Speaker 1: but it led me to believe they would prefer to 1587 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,360 Speaker 1: not have Josh take as many hits in the run 1588 01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:45,640 Speaker 1: game as he did last year. But to do that, 1589 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 1: you need a running back that can be just as 1590 01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,120 Speaker 1: effective as Josh hits with the ball in his hands. 1591 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,720 Speaker 1: That's the trick. So how do you address that When 1592 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 1: push comes to shove. Josh is the best short yardage 1593 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,760 Speaker 1: back in the NFL, bar none, because he can throw 1594 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 1: it too, and he's big and you got to account 1595 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,559 Speaker 1: for him, and he's he affects the play even when 1596 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the ball, So they're gonna maximize that. 1597 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 1: But I'm with you, they don't want him taking any 1598 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 1: more shots. Short yardage is one thing, but when he 1599 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 1: turns the corner and there's Juke and a guy and 1600 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,080 Speaker 1: making him diving for the first down. It just invites problems. 1601 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,519 Speaker 1: All of us would like to get away from that 1602 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 1: if we could, But the only way you're gonna do 1603 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,439 Speaker 1: it is if you never get third down. All Right, 1604 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,680 Speaker 1: that's the tweet sheet we have to break here. When 1605 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,559 Speaker 1: we come back, Steve and I will close it up 1606 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 1: with some interesting Twitter response from Bill's players in the 1607 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 1: wake of the Stefan Diggs extension. We'll bring him to 1608 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:57,280 Speaker 1: an xt here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right, 1609 01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,559 Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 1610 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,479 Speaker 1: with you for a few more minutes here. And as 1611 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,240 Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier, ESPN's Adam Schefter was the first to 1612 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:09,880 Speaker 1: report on the Diggs extension with the Bills, and there 1613 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 1: was some player response on Twitter to Schefter's tweet, the 1614 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,720 Speaker 1: first by none other than quarterback Josh Allen, who, in 1615 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 1: the wake of the extension report had a very simple 1616 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:27,680 Speaker 1: tweet that just read yes, which I think, which I 1617 01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,799 Speaker 1: think was a clever playoff his previous tweet about Stefan 1618 01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,720 Speaker 1: Diggs when Stefan's brother said, Oh, I've always wanted to 1619 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 1: play with my brother, you know, and then people are like, oh, well, 1620 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,280 Speaker 1: you send a trade him to Dallas and then Josh 1621 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,719 Speaker 1: said no, no, So this was his response and retort 1622 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 1: to that, he says, yes, Isaiah McKenzie's was better. However, 1623 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,920 Speaker 1: not surprisingly, Isaiah McKenzie was in our studio after he 1624 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,800 Speaker 1: resigned with the Bills and he said he had to 1625 01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,280 Speaker 1: give Stefan Diggs two hundred dollars for help him with 1626 01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:04,000 Speaker 1: the contract. Diggs then reminded him on Twitter it was 1627 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,880 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars, not two hundred dollars for helping 1628 01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,720 Speaker 1: him with this contract. So Isaiah, in the wake of 1629 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,960 Speaker 1: the extension says, Bill's good looking out because I wasn't 1630 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,040 Speaker 1: going to be paying Stefan Digg's two hundred k. Yeah, 1631 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,040 Speaker 1: so probably won't have his hand out anymore good stuff 1632 01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. We will be on tomorrow at one. 1633 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,960 Speaker 1: Steve will not be here as he takes a well 1634 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,640 Speaker 1: deserved break. Maddy in here with me. We'll see you then,