1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris john Silli and Chris 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: entertainment in a strain. Now here's Chris Johnson. You're now 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: too again to k J Live. I'm your host, Chris Johnson, 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: asked Point Forward pro on Twitter. Today's guest on the 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: show one of the highly regarded trainers in America, has 7 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: worked with several collegiate and NBA and international ball players. 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Uh one of the top guys at what he does 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: and has worked with Kawhi, Leonard, Kyle Kuzma, Tony Schnell, 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: and others. Clint Parks. What's up, my man? It's okay, 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: j Thanks for having me on it. They all appreciate it. Man, 12 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Man. 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: You you helped me kick this whole thing off last year. 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: And man, what was doing the March Madness, the Lives, 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: the coverage, the Wall to Wall and c double A 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: tournament coverage. Man, Yeah, we definitely gonna bring it back then. 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: It should be extremely exciting. Clean. What's you been up to, man, 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: what's you been up too lately? Nothing? Just the same old, 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: same well, just training and you know, dealing with COVID 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: like everybody else, things aren't exactly like they were. Obviously, 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to push back to more towards normal in 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: that direction. So that's been positive. But you know, just 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: the basketball seven, you know how it goes just the 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: life of just a basketball junkie. Yeah, And when we 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: talk about the life of a basketball junckey, man, I 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: know a lot of people out there kind of they 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: have an idea about what that looks like, but I 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: kind of want you to tell us what that looks 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: like from when you wake up in the morning, when 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: you go to bed. What does a typical day in 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: the life of Flint Parks CP s A look like. 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty much basketball from the time I 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: wake up, whether they're starting to workouts, you know, um 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: with my young kids that are on home school right 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: now and so got that during the day, and then 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: when school gets out in the afternoon, the kids that 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: are in railar school kind of transition with them and 38 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: and it's just going NonStop, like and then like a 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: night like last night, you know, I have a game 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: where I'll go to Lombie State game watch one of 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: my college kids play shout out to Lombie State Big 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: West Conference champs and so um. Yeah, so I'm either 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm either training, um, going to a college game, going 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: to a high school game, you know, or and you're 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: just going back to the gym at night. It's pretty 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: much basketball consumes my life. And I mean for some 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: people it's like find balance, do this, but I mean 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: this has always been this has always been my outlet 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: and my thing, and I mean it's a positive thing too, 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: so I love it. Yeah, it seems like you know, 51 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: you're the type of guy that and then you've come 52 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: to uh, when I was calling games, you came to 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: a game at c Sign, I think of the R 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: King game. But you're the kind of guy that, you know, 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: you really intently are watching the game. You're watching players, 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: watching who's you're watching coaches, You're watching pretty much everything 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: in the game. How important is it for you to 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: go to these games when you're training a player just 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: to get a better understanding or grasp of his game 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: and what he needs to work on. Well, that's everything 61 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: go into the game because you have to like you 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: have to see, okay, like what's working, what's not working, 63 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: what tweaks you gotta make when when we're in workouts, 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: like what do we need to emphasize more? What are 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: we spending too much time on? Like, you know, the 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: worst thing you could be is you know, this is 67 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: a hooper yourself, Like is a workout guy? If you're 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: don't translate to the game. If if it's not like, 69 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: if the work isn't translating to the game, then what 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: are we doing? You know, like I you know, nobody 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: gets paid off the workout. Yeah, so these guys that 72 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: look great in the workouts with nobody there or in 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: front of some cones. You know, they're hitting every shot, 74 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: they're making every play, making every cup. But you put 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: a body out there, a little bit of defense and 76 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: a couple of refs. The worst, it's the worst, the 77 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: absolute worst. So I can't stand it. So I've always said, 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: like you got to be able to do it in 79 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: the game, and you know, to be able to break 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: it down, go to the game and see it. See 81 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: what you see what you're doing right, see what you're 82 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: doing wrong. And it's like it's constant evolution from on 83 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: their end and my end too because I'm still trying 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: to get better. I'm still watching different guys, I'm watching 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: workouts on the internet. I'm studying different players. I'm I'm 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: just constantly trying to learn, give myself, give my players 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: that advantage. But we have, you know a lot of 88 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: diverse variety of listeners that tune into the show. Um, 89 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: when you talk about a player that's a workout player 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: or practice player, and and the and that player said 91 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: player has issues with translating stuff to the game, how 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: do you, as a skill specialist, as a player development guru, 93 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: how do you how do you implement a plan, a 94 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: st strategy for that player to become game ready to 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: not be the workout guy anymore? How do you go 96 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: from a workout guy to a game a game guy. 97 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: It's hard, but I think the thing I always try 98 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: to focus on is that you know a lot of 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: things that you can get off in the workout without 100 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: even if you have like dummy defense, Like the defense 101 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: is changing when the game starts, so you know, more 102 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: aggressive defenders physical defenders. Always tell kids, like tell guys 103 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: at every level, you beat good defenders, You beat aggressive 104 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: defenders by keeping it simple. They want you to dance, 105 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: they want you to try to mix them and try 106 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: to go for the highlight like you're not really like 107 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: against the sound defensive player, you're not really getting no 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: highlight highlight off, Like you're not about that. You're not 109 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: about to just shake them something crazy. You're gonna have 110 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: to like you're gonna have to beat them with fundamentals, 111 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: you know. And so that's what I always try to 112 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: That's why I preach, you know, keeping it simple basics 113 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: so much because the game and the half court, especially 114 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: in college, the floors ball damn on, there's no spacing. Um, 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: so your point, you could be playing against some teams 116 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: like UM Virginia who send five guys back in transition 117 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: and they're just like they might they might have one 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: guy go to the glass for offensive glass. So you're 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: not really getting nothing in transition. So your game really 120 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: needs to be you know, you need to be good 121 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: in tight spaces. You need to be able to make shots. 122 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: You need to be you gotta make open shots. And 123 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: that's where it starts. And if you're constantly a lot 124 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: of guys that are good to work out like they're 125 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: just getting all types of extra moves off, and then 126 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: you gotta I mean, some guys has got a mental block, 127 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: like there's nothing like some guys are just three thirty shooters, 128 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: you know. Butter you get seven eight o'clock, the pressure on, 129 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: the lights come on. You know, it's a different type 130 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: of anxiety they might get. And it's just I mean 131 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: it's hard to shake that, it is. Yeah, My pop, 132 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: the Great Marcus Johnson, used to all is kind of 133 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: have a thing about that. You know, he always talked 134 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: about when I was coming up. You know, players, you know, 135 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: certain players excel without refs, without the smell of popcorn 136 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: in the arena, without fans in the stands, without the 137 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: lights being on. Some guys, you know, they look all 138 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: world with nobody in the gym, but you put a 139 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: body in front of them and an arm check and 140 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: it's a whole another story. Um. Staying on development, I 141 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: wanted to get your opinion on first high school programs 142 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: in the southern California area, which you have seen a 143 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: lot of. Uh, as far as basketball is concerned. What 144 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: do you consider the top two or three high school 145 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: basketball programs as far from a development standpoint. Guys that 146 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: go there and you know for a fact that coaches 147 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: are working on a daily basis to get them guys better. Hey, 148 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: that's a tough question, would you? Okay, I think I'm 149 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt you, So I think I like Corona 150 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: Centennial and what and what Josh Giles does over there 151 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: as far as how players go in and like you know, 152 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: it seems like they work on a lot of stuff 153 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: and then by the time they leave their pretty dog 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: a good basketball player. Um is would you is there 155 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: any other I E. Schools or maybe o C or 156 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: any any programs like that Consentennia, those guys get better, 157 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: they have, um that they have a good system set 158 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: in place with his assistant former players that are working 159 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: with the guys as well, so you can see the 160 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: emphasis on development from that standpoint. Um. I don't know 161 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: how much Kleckner does with development, but I just know 162 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: over the years, like his guys have they're they're usually 163 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: college ready. Defensively, yeah, I don't wanted to play hard, 164 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: you know. Um. Reggie Morris has done a good job 165 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: over the years, developing guards, developing players. I'm preparing them 166 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: for college and helping them get on that track to 167 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: them to the next level. Um. Um. Russell White was 168 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: another one. He was really good over the years. You know, 169 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: when he was at Crespy was obviously the Anthony Milton 170 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: and Brendan Williams and the NBA now as well. Um, 171 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: David Biebo, he's um, he's doing his thing at Harvard Westlake. 172 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: You know. You know Moose gets guys better. You know, 173 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: Um that Brent Wood. You're dealing with a different type 174 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: of kid, but he does a good job coaching them 175 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: up and and developing the guy. I mean, there's so 176 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: many coaches out here. I know this is, but there's 177 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of really good 178 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: I mean, um, I think in the Orange County, I'm 179 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: not really oh see, guy, like I don't know, I 180 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: don't know the land of the land like that, you know, 181 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: so I can't really speak to what over the years, 182 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: you know, how the basketball is the development wise, when 183 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: like when you were working with middle school kids, you 184 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: work with a lot of them. You've got some pretty 185 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: good players and parents are coming you seeking out your 186 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: advice for schools, you know, for programs or to continue 187 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: their basketball and athletic journey on the next level. What 188 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: factors in a program do you sort of take into 189 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: account when you give advice to parents. The first thing 190 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: is what level of player are you you know, that's 191 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: where the honesty has to start. Like what are you? 192 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: Are you somebody that's gonna play varsity as a freshman? 193 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: Are you gonna play JV? Are you gonna play a freshman? 194 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: So we've got to separate that right there, you know. 195 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: So say you're a varsity player, so everybody pretty much 196 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: knows me if you're a kid that's going to be 197 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: playing varsity as a freshman, I'm going where I'm going 198 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: to have a role, big role, preferably the ball in 199 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: hands and be able to play through mistakes and um, 200 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: learn on the floor because you get better. Um, Like 201 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: developing and training is like this is like that's my livelihood, right, 202 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: But the most importan in peace to development is live reps. 203 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm no dummy, you know, Like we could drill workout 204 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: all day, but if you don't get you a live reps, 205 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: you're not in a situation where you can play the mistakes. 206 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: Then your development is going to be studied. Right. So 207 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: that's like, Okay, how does the coach play and what's 208 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: his style of play? What's his um what's his m O? 209 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: How is he you know, um with um young players? 210 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Does he have a does he feel comfortable playing young 211 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: guards or is he like oh, is he like a 212 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: guy like oh, I gotta give my seniors, you know, 213 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: like you gotta you got you gotta ask honest you 214 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: you gotta really evaluate the situation, um, evaluate the style 215 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: of play, all of that, and you gotta be honest. 216 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm always honest with coaches up front, like what 217 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: I what what I'm expecting, Like, okay, you tell me 218 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: what you're expecting where you're at, Like, I don't want 219 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: there to be no surprise. I always tell people I'm 220 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: not a little kid. I don't like surprises. Yeah, don't 221 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: surprise me with nothing mid season because then I'm gonna 222 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: be an issue. You told me one thing and you're 223 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: doing another thing. Problem, it's a problem. I don't know 224 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like if I'm like, you know what, 225 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna get me, but that's no, I didn't mean 226 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: to cut you off. But on the same hand, on 227 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: token Clint, like you know, coaches, especially in the high 228 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: school level, I mean, you promise kids anything as far 229 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: as playing time, it becomes problematic because there's a lot 230 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: of dynamics and factors that could change between that day 231 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: and by the time practice to go through through summer 232 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: league and you know, fall practice and all that. The 233 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: kid may just not be good enough. And so you know, 234 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: we didn't know that. We thought he was good enough 235 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: before you got us. You gassed us up telling us 236 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: he was this and that, and he clint real quick. 237 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: He turned out not to be like that. Now you're 238 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: giving me problems because I'm not playing them. How does 239 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: that work? Bro? But I don't see. I can't relate 240 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: to that because I don't gas. I don't gass up, 241 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: because that's when you gass up, then you run into that. Yeah, 242 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, don't gas. If you 243 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: don't gas on the front end, then you're not getting up. 244 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: You know, Like Larry Shy used to tell me all 245 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: the time, under sail under promise over deliver, you know, 246 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: don't don't promise more than you can deliver. Like if 247 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: you're just honest and straightforward like from the Jump Street, 248 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: then there's no issues. Like I remember years ago, I 249 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: had Jeremy Lieberman. You get the kid played Calibass's wyoming. 250 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: He was good. We had went to Cresby and I 251 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: took him like he was eighth grade and they had 252 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: London they had, they already had like London promtists there. 253 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was think he was like 254 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: a grade older and you know, Rust just told me 255 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: what it was like. Would love to have him, you know, 256 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: but I got a point guard a year ahead of him, 257 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: Like so you know what I'm saying, Like he's gonna 258 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: have to play behind him and learn, and like I 259 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: was like, damn, you know, but I respected that because 260 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: Russ was real with me, and so I was like, Okay, 261 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: we're going to calabasss like it's not this is not 262 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: and me and rest remain cool. You know the past. 263 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: This is twelve years ago. We remain cool all that time. 264 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: But just that little bit of honesty and letting me 265 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: know exactly what it was and where he was went 266 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: a long way. It saved a friend ship possibly, like 267 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, like it saved a lot of drama in 268 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: the middle because you up front and that's all you 269 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: can ask. Yeah. Communication is key, man, It's it's the 270 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: key thing to everything. Dog. And if somebody keeps it 271 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: real with you from jump and there are no surprises, 272 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna handle it a lot better. I mean, 273 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: you knew what it was. You might not like it, 274 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: but it's like you gotta revert back to, Okay, this 275 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: is what he said it was gonna be. And it's 276 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: it's amazing too when you, you know, hear all the 277 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: stories about how how many parents and people go through 278 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: those issues with coaches and how many people have that 279 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: situation where they were promised something that didn't happen. But 280 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: but staying on that topic, sort of the you know, 281 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: the grassroots dynamics and drama of the high school era, 282 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: how do you think, Yeah, you're out here in l A. 283 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: We have a couple of high profile programs. Some of 284 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: the players on those programs are pretty high profile on 285 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: their own right, millions of followers on social media, you know, 286 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: big time type guys. How do you think this generation 287 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: of Southern California Hoopers handles all the attention, the fact 288 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: that these guys are now signing n I L deals 289 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: in high school. You got guys you know, beats by 290 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: Dre and Lebron's son and you know these guys out 291 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: here Sierra Canyon and all that. How do you think 292 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: this the generation, the mindset today of this generation handles 293 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: all of what we would have considered extras back in 294 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: the day. I mean, I think they do a pretty 295 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: good job as a whole. You know, there's some that 296 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: are a little more loose than others. It's just hard, like, 297 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, we probably would all you know, I'll tell 298 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: people I said, I probably would be tripping out a 299 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: little bit. Who going through that myself getting some of that, 300 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: like all the extras that these kids have come in 301 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: their way, um because of their talent, you know. And 302 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: I think it's just I think the ones that deal 303 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: with the best are the ones that have people around 304 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: them that are helped be able to help them filter 305 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: what's real and what's not and at the same time 306 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: stay level headed. And I'm starting to feel like this 307 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: generation is was born to be able to handle extras 308 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: better than us. When you think about my kids, you know, 309 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: they had iPhones when they were five, six years old, 310 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: seven years old, so they've been technology based from jump. 311 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: So I can't sit there with my old school thinking, 312 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, hey, get off your phone. You know, don't 313 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: be looking at your phone before practice. No, I mean, 314 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: if he's gonna look at his phone, it's fine because 315 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't take him out of his lock in. Because 316 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: that is who they are. I think you find in 317 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: our culture you got the old heads versus young heads. 318 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: You got the kind of the old way of doing it, 319 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: and these old sort of ideologies about basketball. I think 320 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: it's time to start to put things into context and 321 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: accept the generation for who they are and understand that 322 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: they can't do it like us and we couldn't have 323 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: did it like them. No, that's true. You're exactly right. 324 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: You know, you're exactly right. You know, some old heads 325 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: are gonna be stuck in their ways. I think the 326 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: old head problem is when you know you're caught up 327 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: in the extras, so to speak, and then the game 328 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: isn't the game isn't matching up with the extras. You know, 329 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: that really irks a lot of old heads. Like a 330 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: lot of old heads like that are that understand both sides. 331 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: They're like, I get it, because they had some extras 332 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: to them too. It was just different extras back in 333 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: the day. It wasn't like they gonna know extras. That 334 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: extra just changed. So it's like, Okay, the extras are shot. 335 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about your extras more than your game. You know. 336 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: That's when the old heads get beefy. Okay, So now 337 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: you're not really you're out there like you don't really 338 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: love the game. You know, it's like the old like 339 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Robin who was more extra than Robman. She knew when 340 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: the game, when the game hit. You know, he was 341 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: twenty rebounds and he was hard, he was playing defense, 342 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: the whole nine. A lot of these dudes they get 343 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: they get the fame or whatever, and then it's just extras. 344 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: They just ain't not looking the same. And then it's like, Okay, 345 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: that's that. That's where the disconnect is, Like, come on now. 346 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 347 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 348 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 349 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. Yeah, no, it's 350 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: a disconnect. But I also think that overwhelmingly old heads 351 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: have I guess I call it jealousy envy towards the 352 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: younger generation because you know, of the attention and the 353 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: level of ease, it seems like things are given and 354 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: handed and and then that might not be the case. 355 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: It's like we act like these kids, old heads act 356 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: like these kids aren't working hard. I'm busting their ass, 357 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: didn't have the same goals. I'm getting up at five, 358 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: and some of them are getting up at five. And 359 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: the more you know they're doing the same thing. They 360 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: just got cell phones and gets on social media. Now 361 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: they get old hands just want their flowers. That's it. 362 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: They just want the pay. They just want to hear 363 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: the the young hand saying name, you know, you paved 364 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: the way first to get this big bag. Hey, even 365 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: if you don't need it, just say what I'm saying. 366 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: They just want their respect, that said, because the money, 367 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: the money is so much different now and so you know, 368 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: like you looked up and you're like, man, I was 369 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: so much better than what we're seeing now. And so 370 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: they're like, man, like, we we paved the way for 371 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: y'all to get this money. And so when they feel 372 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: like they're not respected, that's why you see like, um, 373 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: so many of the young dudes love Bubba Chuck Irish 374 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: and so much because Irish and so so much love 375 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: to the to this generation of Hooper like he always 376 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: just so loved to where you see Oakley get on 377 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: the on the podcast and he like, your honest is 378 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: a weak Let's touch on that. Let's touch on that. 379 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: So Oakley said, you're honest if you honest played back 380 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties. In that era, he'd be 381 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: a role player, a bench guy. He wouldn't be m 382 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: v P A are Now, I have a thought process 383 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: behind it, and I want you to hear me out. 384 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: Oakley is talking about the physicality of the game now. 385 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: When whatever we discussed physical and skill, the conversation always 386 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: gets um murky. I would call it murky because people 387 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: don't want to ever acknowledge or address the actual consequences 388 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: and effects of physical play of eighties, nineties physical player Clint. Nowadays, 389 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: it's it's refs, it's people, it's video reviews, it's all 390 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: types of stuff that you cannot do that you're gonna 391 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: be busted with. And this is a valid point. There 392 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: was a time, believe it or not. This is to 393 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: the audience, the younger members of the audience. There was 394 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: a time when basketball was played by guys that was 395 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: trying to hurt you, the guys that would go out 396 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: and do things purposely to hurt you, and there really 397 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: wasn't much you could do about it but try to 398 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: finish the game in fear. This is what Oakley is 399 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: referring to. He's challenging the man of Johannest. He's saying 400 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: Joannice as a man, as the kid that grew up 401 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: in Greece selling them on the street, it's not tough 402 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: enough to handle the eighties and nineties, Clint, I want 403 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that. You see what Jannest looks like 404 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: right now, Joannice is going straight down to the block 405 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: and he's doing the same thing that he's doing now. 406 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: Like Isaiah Thomas said, Okay, you're gonna foul like, You're 407 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna foul him really hard. You're gonna hit him. Okay, 408 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: now what else are you gonna do? But what how 409 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: do how do we know what happens after he gets fouled? 410 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: Is he gonna respond to Oakley the same way he's 411 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: responding to these dudes nowadays, Maxi Klobler and all these dudes. 412 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: Is are you gonna respond? I mean? Is that? I 413 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: think that's That's That's my point. Clint Oakley is is 414 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: banking all his whole statement on the fact that he 415 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: him and his dudes back then are going to punk Janice. 416 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: They're going to punk him, not they might punk him 417 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: a bit like when he first gets into the league, 418 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: like it might have been like he might struggle. That's 419 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: what I said. This development that he's shown over time, 420 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: same same way, same way up and you're going to 421 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: r those puppies and they're not gonna be working like that. 422 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: That's so I think. So I made that little so 423 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: I said that whole thing to say. I still believe 424 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: even regardless of getting punk anything, Yannest will be like 425 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: a twenty six twenty seven and like an eight seventeen 426 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: eighteen guy. I feel like Janice was built for the 427 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. His bird, his style, his bruising, just linebacker, 428 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm going through you style and then eating glass in 429 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: a in an era where you know, rebounds were a 430 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: lot higher because of the nature of the game, I 431 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: think that he would have dominated. Uh. To be quite frank, 432 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: but you make a great point. He would have got 433 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: used to just like we remember we saw Janice when 434 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: he first got into the league. He was a little 435 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, fresh faced and wide eyed, but then he 436 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: figured it out pretty quickly. Um. Yeah, that's an interesting deal. 437 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: Moving on to the college game, brother, what do you 438 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: think about the transfer pop portal and what it's done 439 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: to college recruited is the high gool senior now irrelevant 440 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: or what. Um, the high school senior that's special is 441 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: never gonna go out of style as we know, and 442 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: it goes back to the tears. The high school senior 443 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: that's like on the on the cusp of maybe getting 444 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: a deal, he they're they're kind of like phasing away 445 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: from him because they're like, oh, we could go we 446 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: could go to the portal and use that scholarship. Yep. 447 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: So with the portal, so what the portal has brought 448 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: on like a whole new issue for high school kids 449 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: because now it's like coaches are um, coaches are under 450 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: pressure to win. Now obviously there's not really time for development. 451 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: So if you if you got if your administrations on you, 452 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: on you, on you, you're going for the kid that's 453 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: two over the kid that's seventeen eighteen. You hear NonStop, 454 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: what's the key to college basketball? Get old, stay old, 455 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: you know. And so therefore it's like if you're being 456 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: in seventeen eight better be special. Obviously your chat home grins, 457 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: you're Jabari Smith's, you're Paula bank Caro's like those three 458 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: freshmen like right there, like that you hear about all 459 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: season like they're going to go go in and play 460 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: wherever they go. Yeah, but that's not the case for 461 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: every freshman, you know, and there's a there's a learning curve, 462 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: and then some coaches don't like playing freshman. So the 463 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: portal is like, Okay, let's go get somebody who's been 464 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: in college three years. He might want to move up 465 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: or he might want to move down, or whatever it 466 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: may be. And now it's like the young guy, Okay, well, 467 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: we don't got time for you right now. We we 468 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: gotta win my a d sais I gotta win now 469 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: or I'm losing my job. So I'm gonna trust a 470 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: dude who's older, who's more season. So it's hard for 471 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: the high school senior right now. It's it's stressful for 472 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: some good high school seniors too. And I don't necessarily 473 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: agree with it because I've said it's over and over again. 474 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: That portal. That portal is getting a lot of coaches 475 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: in trouble too, because a lot of these guys are 476 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: leaving bouncing around three school rules and it's like you've 477 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: been averaged to've been below average at every stop, like 478 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: just because you're in the portal, everything that glitters is 479 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: in gold. I say, all the time. There's a lot 480 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: of bad goods in that portal buyer beware. So so 481 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: I would think that when you trickle, it trickles down 482 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: now to the guys back in the like back in 483 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: my day, Like you know, I got a scholarship to 484 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: main folks got a scholarship on our Crunshaw team. We're 485 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: basically the top two players, but then four other guys 486 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: got scholarships too. We probably won't see those days unless 487 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: everybody's just super raw or at a prep school type 488 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: situation where a regular high school, like you know, a 489 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: regular high school, Sarah, can you have to be an 490 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: elite level high school, but you won't see the days 491 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: of of guys getting those scholarships that if you weren't 492 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: the man on your team because of I guess the 493 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: the super senior or the top now being kind of 494 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: rendered irrelevant because of the coaching preference. That that's that's 495 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: kind of a an interesting deal kind of crushes your 496 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, I remember, you know when you when you 497 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: went to high school, you know, you had these dreams 498 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: and aspirations to going D one. D one was everything 499 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: and D or D two or D three or college 500 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: basketball was everything, and now it sounds like a lot 501 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: of guys won't get that opportunity. When do you think, 502 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: at what moment do you think like this emphasis shifted? 503 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean because even before the transfer portal became a thing, 504 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: coaches were already kind of leaning towards getting older. As 505 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: it was, coaches don't want to develop. Development takes time. 506 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: You're trying to get somebody better. You're saying, Okay, he's here, 507 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: but I can take him here. So in between all 508 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: the work you gotta do, you gotta have managers that 509 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: are dedicated. You gotta have because you because you have 510 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: an hour limit on how much you can work with guys. 511 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: So Eric Musselman is kind of like mastered it. He 512 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: goes out and he gets like high high level and 513 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: grad assistance man edgers, guys that can be on the 514 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: floor unlimited with the players. And so they're they're basically 515 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: your eyes and ears, working your guys out, getting your 516 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: guys better, pounding them every day. Boom boom boom. This 517 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: is what you need to be working on. And so 518 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: to develop, if you're at a major, or you're say 519 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: you're at a low major like now, you're trying to 520 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: you develop a guy and now that now the high 521 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: major is just gonna come in and cherry pick and say, oh, 522 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: we want you now. We didn't want you in high school. 523 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: You were a week, but you're a later, you're good now, 524 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: you're good now. So yet we're rocking with you, and 525 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people will fall for that. Yeah. Who 526 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: do you think are some of the best outside of 527 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Muscliman in Arkansas? Some of the best development programs in 528 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: college basketball? In college basketball, dang, best development programs? Would 529 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: you consider Kentucky? Would you consider Kentucky a good development program? 530 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: When Kenny Payne was there, I would What about Duke Duke? 531 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they're guys, They're go get better. I mean, 532 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean their guys get better, like their guys get better. 533 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm not a dude guy, but they get better. I 534 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: think I think, Uh, what do you think about Kansas 535 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: as a development program? I mean it's I liked it 536 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: when I mean Danny Manning was there, like all the posts, 537 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: all the three fours, the footwork was going crazy, the 538 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: Morris Twins, all those dudes. You know, over the years, 539 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, some of these people forget how important it 540 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: is to have high level assistant coaches right, you know, 541 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: you see there's good development in the Mountain West, looking 542 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: at like what's going on at like Wyoming my old school, obviously, 543 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: like coach Lenders done a good job. San Diego State, 544 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: Fisher and desher have done a good job over the years. 545 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: Colorado State Nico med bed Leon Rice. That's the conference 546 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 1: I'm really familiar with and I follow a lot. So 547 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, there's no there's good schools in the Pact, 548 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 1: So there's good schools everywhere. It's just understanding. I always say, like, 549 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: you really got to do your homework. All the answers 550 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: to the tests are out there. You just gotta really 551 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: lock in and study it. Yeah, kind of ask questions, 552 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: do your own research, start trying to figure some things out. 553 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: Go to practices. I like to go to practices. Okay, 554 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: what are we working on? And I'm not just going 555 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: to one practice, And I like pulling up unannounced because 556 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: you already know I'm coming for weeks or days at 557 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: a time. You're gonna dress it up nice. You're gonna 558 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: dress it up nice. Like, no, I don't want to 559 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: know what it looks like on a daily basis in here. Yeah, Washington, 560 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: like you've been there, three or four years, like I 561 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: don't want to just hear. Oh the kid don't want it. 562 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: You don't want it, he don't. Nah, this is your job. 563 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: You signed him. Your job is to get him better. 564 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: He don't want it, not good enough? Like, no, you 565 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: gotta get him better. And so guys that have been three, 566 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: three years, four years at a place and haven't improved, 567 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: like that's never a good. Look. What what do you 568 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: think is the most I guess successful methods when it 569 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: comes to getting a guy better on the collegiate level. 570 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: Is it emphasis on shooting? Is it an emphasis on conditioning? 571 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Is an emphasis on ball handling? I mean, what do 572 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: you think is the most important skill set for a 573 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: guy to improve upon? And again it depends on who 574 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: you are, but just universally speaking, yeah, talk to me. 575 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Starts with the jader, Yes, sir, It starts with it 576 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: like that opens up everything, and it's really like it's 577 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: like a it's like a it's um the Santonio spurs 578 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: you should use. They probably still do, but it's like 579 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: daily vitamins, like you gotta take them every day. Yeah, 580 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: and they got every day for them to work. So 581 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: it's like that, like the approach with like skill development. Okay, 582 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: twenty minutes before practice, thirty minutes before practice on the floor, 583 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: thirty minutes after. Now that that you come back thirty minutes, 584 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: forty five minutes at night. You're there before practice, after 585 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: practice twenty minutes. Now you've got forty minutes of working individually. 586 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: You stack that up five days, six days, Like you 587 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: keep doing that, doing that, doing that, like you're gonna 588 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: see the progression over time. I always tell my guys, please, 589 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: don't be the guy who shows that right before practice, 590 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: running the antieing issues and rushing on the court right 591 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: before the huddle starts, and don't be the guy who's 592 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: sprinting to the door right when the practice ends. Oh 593 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm out, Like, don't be the don't don't be that person. 594 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of players that are like that, 595 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of coaches that are like that. 596 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: And when you're like that, you're really gonna have a 597 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: hard time improving the way you want to improve or 598 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: the way your people might want you to improve. So 599 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm always I'm always on track record. I'm always on 600 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: track record. How are you talking? Like? Are you giving 601 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: me the best? Are you giving me the business the 602 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: car salesman development speech Like no, I'm not rolling with that. 603 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: That's what if the cars what if the car sales 604 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: been developed this speech? Satellite, Just give me an example. 605 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm the guy given to him. Oh we love the gym. 606 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: We just we're big on being in the gym. We're 607 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: a huge development program. Like no, stop, we're big on 608 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: being in the gym. Yeah we're not like stop stop, Like, no, 609 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you guys. Haven't seen one player coming 610 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: and lead completely different. Haven't seen you guys taken no 611 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: star or or lowly rated player and put them on 612 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: the NBA, on the on BA NBA draft radar. Haven't 613 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: seen any of that, Like I need to see that, bro. 614 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: And I'm saying, we're saying the kids, I'm thinking this 615 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: kid's NBA, like what are your what are your credentials? 616 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: Like who have you developed and brought up for me 617 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: to be like okay, like he's done this and some people, 618 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, the guys like just like when I started, 619 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: people took a chance on me and you have given 620 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: me an opportunity. You know. So there's some guys that 621 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: are like hungry and motivated, and you know they're really 622 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: gonna be in there, you know, like pushing the kid, 623 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: getting him in the gym, you know, making sure he's 624 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: getting his work in the morning, making sure he's in shape, 625 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and so you have some of that, 626 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: but you gotta, man, you gotta love the gym coaches players. Yeah, 627 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: you do both on both sides of the spectrum, on 628 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: the coach and the and the players side. I remember 629 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: being at U C. L A and then in the 630 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: mid nineties part of that program, and LaRenzo Romar was 631 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: our development guy along with Mark Gotfreed. So they were 632 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: the guys that be playing one on one with us 633 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: before practice. Then they'd be the the scout team during practice, 634 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: and then we'd get three on three and other knockout 635 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: situations after practice. So this is and you're talking about 636 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: two guys. I think Godfreed got Freed. You know, he 637 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: was really good at Alabama, so he shoot, he could 638 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: shoot it. Lazo Rollmar play in the league, lefty point guard, 639 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: Bouncy at the time, still banging out. You know, it 640 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 1: was like it was it was, it was, it was. 641 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: It was a situation going on, but the reality was 642 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: plant we we when you have a coach that loves 643 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: the gym in college as much as as you should. 644 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: You have no choice but to get your ass into 645 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: the gym. You have no choice because you know coach 646 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: Romar is gonna be there and if you don't show up, 647 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: it's like you're looking bad now. And you know it's 648 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: it's speaking to your work ethic, to your dedication. This 649 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: is back in the day where you know you didn't 650 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: want to have coaches. MJ's like what's good? Like why 651 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: not getting no burn? Man? You know how the result 652 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: like Zoe come on like this, what's going on in 653 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: the gym? So it's like, Okay, he's working, he's getting better. 654 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's easier you came back 655 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: in great shape. Is like that type of stuff. Yeah, 656 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: and that's what it takes. I mean, that's what it 657 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: takes to make that jump. But Clint, before college, right 658 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: when you're recruited and you're thinking about the school and 659 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 1: we want to talk about a fit for school, how 660 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: does one sort of discern or figure out a fit? 661 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: Me personally, I'll just give you quick on my experience. 662 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: I had a few schools, Washington State and Kelvin Sampson 663 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: Arizona State and Bill Freeder Utah. Rick mcgari's coach K 664 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: and Duke wanted me to come through and walk on, 665 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: and I had Cornell and U c l A were 666 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: like my six opportunities that I was legitimately looking at, 667 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: and I wasn't thinking fit back then. I was thinking legacy, 668 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: play my dad with the U c l A. It's 669 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: U c l A is right in the backyard, etcetera, etcetera. 670 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk to you though, just from 671 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: a different lens, in a different perspective. How do you 672 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: view a fit for a perspective, the right fit for 673 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: a prospective ball player going into college. What level? It's 674 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: hard to always starts the saying what level are you? Okay, 675 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: so we're you're City Section player of the year, right, yeah, 676 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: oh we have to be playing day one. You have 677 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: to be playing day one, Like we just had to 678 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: be yeah, like city actual player of the year. Like 679 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: that's like, like, especially at that time, that's like, okay, 680 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: you're you're to the league. Like he's gonna be to 681 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: the league eventually, so we gotta be on the floor. 682 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: And so my biggest thing you probably seen me tweet 683 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: about it all the time. I kind of said jokingly, 684 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: but it's like roster evaluation one on one, like I'm 685 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: really breaking the roster down my ego. My egos always 686 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: to the side. And I tell people this. When Jaden 687 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: was coming out, McDaniels um Cali Perry was recruiting him, right, 688 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: and that was when I started like I talked to 689 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: start talking to coach cal and stuff, and he like 690 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: he's like such a like he'll kind of like deebo 691 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: you and making you feel like if you don't come here, 692 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: well you don't want to compete, you're scared to compete, 693 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: like you have no competitive juices in you. This is 694 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: the place for you anyway. And so you got your 695 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: ego and your pride in the way, you'll be like, man, 696 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: you trying to make me feel like a second like 697 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: I'm I'm afraid to bump when it's like, no, it's 698 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: not about that. Because you're a pro. You're trying to 699 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: get to the league, So what is the best situation 700 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: for you to get there? And nine times had it's 701 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: in a lot of people don't want to keep it 702 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: all the way funky, but it's what is the best 703 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: situation for you to get to the league and where 704 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: can you go to get there as fast as possible. 705 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: That's just being real, Like if you've got one and 706 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: done talent, you're trying to be one of day. You're 707 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: not trying to be too and done. You feel like 708 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: you're a one and done dude. And so you gotta 709 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: look at the roster. You gotta see who's there, who's 710 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: coming back. Who ahead of you was told they were 711 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: gonna play and had the city year and now that 712 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: now things may have cleared up a little bit, and 713 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: so now they're thinking, Okay, now this is my year 714 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: to play. And so for you to jump all those guys, 715 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be Paulo ban Caro chat matter. 716 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who they have, who they bring it, 717 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: who else is coming Like you're playing. You're playing and 718 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. And that's like, okay, being 719 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: real about where you are as a player. But looking 720 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: at the roster, you know what I'm saying, do they 721 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: have a need for me, like a real real need 722 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: or they just want me they this is the roster, 723 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: tell me they need me. You know what I'm saying. 724 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: The roster will tell you they need you. You're a 725 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: point guard. No point guards in the roster. You know 726 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're coming in program has point guard 727 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: play has been shaky, you know, like okay, the coach 728 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: needs a PG, like really bad. Okay. You know you're 729 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: somebody who can start. You know, coaches like your your 730 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: game and your resume says that there's two or three 731 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: point guards in the roster and you're walking in and 732 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: telling yourself, now, I'm different. Time. Don't use that word 733 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm different. No, dude, before you say he was different 734 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: too when he had to sit on that bench for 735 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: one two years, when someone when there was multiple situations 736 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: where he could have walked in and just got to 737 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, Now, it's a process, man, And you 738 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: really gotta have people in your ear that know what 739 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: the hell they're talking about too. I think that's big. 740 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: That's a big issue today with a lot of these 741 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: at these ball players and stuff, is that the people 742 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: that surround them typically don't know what they're talking about, 743 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of bad advice. And most dangerous 744 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: person is someone that doesn't know basketball but thinks they 745 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: know basketball. Who that's a scary situation where they just 746 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: treated a long time ago. Be careful who you learned 747 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: the game from. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 748 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 749 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I 750 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 751 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: Because you'll you'll take those you'll take those habits with you, 752 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: and you'll take that mindset with you throughout. And you 753 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: get around some real ones, some real hoopers, and it's 754 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: like you're gonna be feeling real silly and and kind 755 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: of embarrassing. So you got you gotta these these parents, 756 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: these kids the roster. You have to because even if okay, 757 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: you come in and you're hooping, like multiple people have, 758 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: multiple players have been there at your position already, the 759 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: coach is gonna go with who he's comfortable with. And 760 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: then if he goes with you and you're not playing 761 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: well and there's so many players like at your position 762 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: like that, they feel like, Okay, well, we gotta move 763 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: off this dude. We gave him his shot. We gotta 764 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: go play the next dude to where here that big 765 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: fish in a small pond. Usually, you know what I'm saying. 766 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: I always tell people I'm giving them the game right now. 767 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: I like, especially when you're talented. It was like Tony 768 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: Snell in Mexico. He was inconsistent. But you can't go 769 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: get another Tony Snill in Mexico. So you gotta ride 770 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: with him through everything until he figures it all the 771 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: way out. But if he goes to Texas or some 772 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: of the other schools that are recruiting him that are 773 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: big time schools, you get your shot. Your inconsistent Like that, Bro, 774 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: we're off you. We got another MacDonald's America. You're not 775 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: the yeah because you you've seen your champion, the mid 776 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 1: the low major, the mid majors. Right, You're a champion, 777 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: an absolute champion of these types of schools and programs, 778 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: which is fine. You love seeing the blue bloods lose. 779 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: You love seeing golife you you love seeing alife lose. 780 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: You love it. I noticed that I love the right 781 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: pack twelve too, just not the pack twelve that you like. 782 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: But let me ask you this. Stay we're talking to 783 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: fit right, So say you're or you know, top level 784 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: high school kid projected to go pretty high in the draft. 785 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: You decided to pick a college. You go to a 786 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: college that doesn't utilize you the right way. Do you 787 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: stick it out at that college or do you risk 788 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: bouncing although you know you haven't been utilized the right way, 789 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: so your draft stock isn't where it has been. But 790 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: you really don't see or feel like this situation is 791 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: gonna be conduced for you in the future. Do you 792 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: do you stay? Do you suck it up and say, hey, 793 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: I believe myself. We've got some guys leaving. We got 794 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, several seniors in my ahead of mer graduating. 795 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: Do you stay or do you bounce to the league? 796 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: Or do you transfer and spent another year in college 797 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: to show sort of the promise and reach that potential 798 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: that people had to project it as before you spent 799 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: this year. That's a tough decision who because if you leave, 800 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: you gotta go to the right spot you got to 801 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: and if you stay, things have to change. And you 802 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, how are you playing? How 803 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: is the coach using you? Like? It's tough because if 804 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: you're thinking you're gonna come in and do this and 805 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: it hasn't materialized, so you're gonna be feeling some type 806 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: of way you just are and so you're coming back, 807 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: you gotta let go of that are you gonna be 808 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: able to let go of that. And if you leave, man, 809 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: it has to work. If you leave, you gotta pick 810 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: the right spot. So it's like it's it's fifty fifty. 811 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: It's like, man, you gotta you got you gotta have 812 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: some That's where it comes down to having some hard conversations. Yeah. 813 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: I think there was a time where, you know, players 814 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: like that would have stuck it out, would have stayed. Hey, 815 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: you started, finish what you started, you know. I think 816 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: that this time of basketball life that that that doesn't 817 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: happen anymore. Players are ready to bounce, players just ready 818 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: to capitalize on the next situation that gets them going 819 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. There's no reason to toil and 820 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: some bullsh crap that isn't conducive to your game or 821 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: highlighting your game. So yeah, yeah, no, I get that. 822 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: That's all. That's all. You just you just gotta I mean, 823 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: just like you said, you gotta be surrounded by people 824 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: that know the game, know the landscape. Um have real 825 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: relationships with assistant coaches, the head coaches, you know, have 826 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: real trust. Let's touch on that for a second. What 827 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: we talked about the relationships with the coaches and I 828 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 1: think it was you that tweeted out the other day, Uh, 829 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: find you an assistant coach that talks speaks up on 830 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: you to the head coaching. Oh, I said, some assistant 831 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: coaches will only for you and meetings if they recruited you. 832 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: And Jay Hart's said, man, that's why you can't send 833 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 1: your kids to Buster, And it was like, I agree, 834 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: I usually don't fall into that. I don't, I don't. 835 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't usually have that problem because I am like 836 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: select them on who I would like to rock with 837 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: for that those reasons. But there is true you know, 838 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 1: um some coaches only right, there's a lot of programs 839 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: that have staffs that are my guy, So like, I'm 840 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: only riding for my guy who I recruited because I 841 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: gotta go back to that same a you program and 842 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: answered the call, so like I'm only you know what 843 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean. And so when you have that on some staffs, 844 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: then it could get tricky. So to be so to 845 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: be clear, this allegiance to players now it becomes based 846 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: on the pipeline, right, the lifeblood of this is particular 847 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: system coaches job because he had a plug with say 848 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: DC Assault, and so if he didn't he didn't. This 849 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: one guy is coming from DC assault and if he 850 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: doesn't treat a DC assault guy right, he never getting 851 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: another dude. And they got some seven's that are off 852 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 1: the chain. And so is that how it goes? Clint? 853 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: I need to and I'm I'm an independent guy. And 854 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, like, oh, we don't got 855 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: no loyalty to him. You gotta have your sweet spot, 856 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: your program are you really rock with and you gotta 857 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: like you go, you go, you gotta you you gotta 858 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: maintain that and keep them closed. That's what that comes 859 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: down to. Like, as an independent guy, I'm not sending 860 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: no player. I'm not like I'm not sending no player 861 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: to a school that has an AU coach on the 862 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: staff or has multiple players from the AU program. That's 863 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: just that's just not smart. So you really look at 864 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: it that way. So when you're talking when you mentioned 865 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: roster breakdown, because this is gonna be a very informative 866 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: segment on the show, you're talking about not only who 867 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: this guy is, how you played last year, etcetera. You're 868 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: going back to a a U. You want to know 869 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: who is this dude affiliated with on staff and the publicy, 870 00:45:54,080 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. It's deeper than rap. Hey, 871 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: it is like I'm not getting I'm not getting caught 872 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: up in that because someone they got to go back 873 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: to some they got multiple players that they've had multiple 874 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 1: players in the past in certain places that you knew, 875 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: you know what, you know what it is like. I 876 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: like to feel like I've had a lot of success 877 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: with guys at San Diego State, and so if I 878 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: have a guy that's a like a dude along the 879 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: lines of Kauai and Jamal and Jalen McDaniels, like, you know, 880 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: like they're gonna that's like, that's a that's a good spot. 881 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: Like we've had prior success and I got good relationship 882 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: with the coaches, and so that's how the game works, 883 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: you know. And that's just the game is the game, man, 884 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: and the sooner that you're real with yourself about how 885 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: this thing goes, um you could you could probably like 886 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: to say, save a basketball life. I think that people 887 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: in general don't really kind of grasp or digest or 888 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: even think that far except the really high level, elite 889 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: kind of basketball hoop heads. And they're all around there, 890 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: any of them, and they know but like to the 891 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: regular you know, like say, for instance, people listening to 892 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: this show there, they typically won't have that type of 893 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 1: idea that that's how things work where that's Those are 894 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: factors that they should consider if they had a child 895 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: that was looking to go and play on the next level. 896 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: kJ Everything on the table, bro, Yeah, everything in the meetings, 897 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: the conversations before you know, the commitment takes place, and 898 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: the kids like, Okay, this is where I'm going. Like 899 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: all the hard questions gotta be answered, gotta be asked. Yeah, 900 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, That's why it goes back to honesty at 901 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: the front door, because now you know there are some 902 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: people that are watching this show. People know me on 903 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: from Twitter, people know me in the basketball world. Some 904 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: people love me, some people don't like me. I'm out spoken, 905 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm opinionated. I don't like something, I'm gonna speak on it. 906 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: But I tell people, we get to school, we're gonna 907 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: act right, We're gonna go to class, and we're gonna 908 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: work hard because they're gonna first and foremost. I'm not 909 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: writing for nothing, just to be writing for something like 910 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: you're lazy, you're not doing you gotta do your part. 911 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: There's accountability on all ends. We can't wait, what is this? 912 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: What is this? We're not we're not doing the dictatorship. 913 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold the kid accountable. Nobody's gonna hold me accountable. 914 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: Come on now, we're not doing that. Accountability is it's 915 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: all the way around, you know. And so that's where 916 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 1: that's where a lot of this, you know, you see 917 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 1: it sucks because you see a lot of kids that 918 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, you don't take some of these stuff. We're 919 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: talking to a consideration, and then you get to a 920 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: school and it's like you feel like you were let on, 921 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, and this is serious, because this is like people, 922 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: this ain't no, this ain't no game basket, everybody, it's 923 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: just a game. No, no, no, it ain't no no no. 924 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: I'd just seen with that roundball and did for multiple players, 925 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: and I've seen with the round ball up close, did 926 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: for Kawhi Leonard. Generations and generations have changed in his 927 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: family because it is round ball, Tony Snail. Generations and 928 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: generations like he got his family out the hood for real, 929 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: for real, and there's more many kids like him. Jamal Franklin, 930 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,720 Speaker 1: like you know, single moms that are out here grinding, 931 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: working multiple jobs to keep the lights on type stuff like, nah, 932 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: this ain't no na there there those parents, their babies 933 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: changed their life forever. Their feet are kicked up, they 934 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: ain't working no more. Seriously, this ain't no game, bro, 935 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: Like what you're talking about? Like you over here lying 936 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: to yourself, like, well you better stop. See how much 937 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: money the Clippers are worth? You know what it's like? 938 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: Come on now, But it's all about being put in 939 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: the situation. And it starts in high school that goes 940 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: to college. You know, like you were like you coached 941 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: on the j b A, like you were out close 942 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: with the whole the ball situation. You've been rocking with 943 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: the balls forever, you know what I mean. There's a 944 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: lot of people have different opinions of LaVar and hit 945 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: the way he you know, I always say everyone everyone 946 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: can't be LaVar because everyone don't got LaMelo Alonso and 947 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 1: Jello number one. But if you like, if you just 948 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: take some things away from how he did coach his 949 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: kids and how he raised them as basketball players, like 950 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: like we got to see that part obviously, Like the 951 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: most important thing he did with LaMelo was he always 952 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: protected his mental Yah. You know, he never let nobody 953 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: best with his mental and now you see that. Now, 954 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: now you see and this is what you're getting. Remember 955 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: when everybody was like the shot selection is, we can't 956 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: be doing that, Like he can't be shooting all he 957 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: can't be shooting those D threes and he's playing so 958 00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,800 Speaker 1: free like he's to tighten up. Okay, tighten up, second 959 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: year All Star game, tighten that up. When his dad 960 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: was not rolling for no funnies. None, dad was not 961 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: rolling for no funnies like he he basically pulled him 962 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: out of school as a junior because he was like, no, 963 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: not rolling with how the coach is trying to coach 964 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: my son, Like, no, this isn't gonna work, Like I 965 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: know what I have. He always said it, like he 966 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: stood on that. And it's that confidence, man, when you 967 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: have when you have somebody that's talented, that's skilled, and 968 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: that's confident over Daddy ball is approved. Alright, rolling with 969 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: Daddy ball. Okay, you told Jay Crow that, Like, what 970 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: are you talking about? Daddy is all good? Are you 971 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: kidding me? Don't less society try to knock you off 972 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 1: your piving thing. Don't be influenced by that show. Be 973 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,879 Speaker 1: listening to these people that imagine of aar with a listen. 974 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: Heck no, man, heck no, but brother, man, I appreciate 975 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: your time today, my man. We gotta run. Um. I 976 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: can't wait too, no doubt, man, I can't wait till 977 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: we jump off on March madness. Man. Soon as that tournament, 978 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: head man, we will be going live, will be recording time. 979 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: Huh are you going to Patrol tournament next week? Yeah? Yeah, 980 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm I'm gonna go out there for 981 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: a couple of days. You're going, Yeah, I'll be there. 982 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: Hold full up on you, alright, perfect Clint? Where can 983 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,760 Speaker 1: people find you and connect with you on Twitter? Um? Clint? 984 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: What am I? I I don't I don't even know what 985 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,919 Speaker 1: my um? Oh? What is my head? Let me find 986 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: it for you, my bad. You can find Clint on 987 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: Twitter at Clint Parks zero five at Clint Parks zero 988 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: five on Twitter. My man, Thank you so much for 989 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: your time, brother, and I'll see you real soon. Sounds good, brother,