Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
Speaker 2: I'm an executive.
Speaker 1: Producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation,
Speaker 1: The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode,
Speaker 1: we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to
Speaker 1: The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests,
Speaker 1: whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.
Speaker 3: Honey, I got my fan few girl.
Speaker 2: Yes, they was cloud to me.
Speaker 3: About I'm going through menopaul.
Speaker 1: Okay, because we're the same age.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, can get her.
Speaker 2: Give my it's in my verse upstairs because I need
Speaker 2: to put this siress.
Speaker 4: Let's put the surress, would you.
Speaker 2: It's not my Please get.
Speaker 1: My past because that's a forty five year old man
Speaker 1: both to menopause.
Speaker 4: Okay, and you're allegedly forty four.
Speaker 3: Relative. Well, you know the girls, I mean look, I'll
Speaker 3: watched the show, and I mean.
Speaker 1: Fas said that you are the oldest looking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I kind of want Phaser to find
Speaker 2: a man, a friend, or a mirror, you know, before
Speaker 2: she comes at me about how I look like I
Speaker 2: was insulted, like I could take that from anybody except her.
Speaker 2: Why because it's like, have you seen that? Has she
Speaker 2: been past the mirror? Like where's the mirrors? I think,
Speaker 2: fai where the mirror? I'm not calling her ugly, What
Speaker 2: are you calling her? She was Okay, she looks her age,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's one way. It's her age. I think.
Speaker 2: I think we just need to add a text. Whatever
Speaker 2: my ages, we're gonna add teen. Okay, we're gonna add
Speaker 2: teen to that.
Speaker 1: Forty four So you think Pagel looks fifty four whatever?
Speaker 2: People think I look older.
Speaker 3: So I'll say this and this and range drops. Y'all
Speaker 3: know I do not lie.
Speaker 1: I'm in person with this woman. You know I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: You don't look old to me.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: No, I'm being very honest with you because I will
Speaker 1: tell you the too, like you don't look forty four,
Speaker 1: you don't, and you don't look older than forty four.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I don't, So I'm being serious.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the read because yeah.
Speaker 3: Before this show was your age ever in question?
Speaker 2: Never never? And all of the wives that I'm around, oh,
Speaker 2: we all act look the same you know, no one
Speaker 2: has ever questioned are you the same age as your husband?
Speaker 5: Everyone knew, you know, say he got a young Yeah.
Speaker 6: To be asked, you know how old are you? I
Speaker 6: was shocked. I'm like, damn, do I look like I
Speaker 6: change my dermatologist?
Speaker 5: Aside from that, yes, I'm okay, we'll get the idea pastor. Okay,
Speaker 5: carlos Key as a journalist, Hey, Portia, I'm gonna get
Speaker 5: the receipts.
Speaker 1: Okay, break drops now, Lizzie, can you please bring me
Speaker 1: my readers to.
Speaker 6: Do the mind last night?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking at Angela's passport and I'm doing this
Speaker 1: because I'm forty five years old.
Speaker 3: So my eyesight is, you know, not what it used
Speaker 3: to be. But I can see clearly.
Speaker 2: Don't do that, you take it.
Speaker 4: I need read.
Speaker 2: No, I need my readers.
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm a reader.
Speaker 2: Ship forty five. I got good.
Speaker 6: I'm not hear I see a little bit.
Speaker 4: I got you, honey, don't you worry boo.
Speaker 6: Please read it.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 6: We are right here.
Speaker 1: Because I'm a real journalist, so I want to make
Speaker 1: sure please get the facts.
Speaker 3: Get the facts right.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Angela Dione Oakley, No, my government.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we'll cut it off. Cut off, cut off. Okay,
Speaker 4: we got Angela Oakley.
Speaker 1: Guys, I'm looking at it may or nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 2: I cannot believe that question my age, like, god, you
Speaker 2: look good.
Speaker 6: Look at my mannerisms as well.
Speaker 1: When you watch the show, do you when you when
Speaker 1: you see yourself on TV, do you feel like.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I can see what they're saying or are
Speaker 3: you just like.
Speaker 6: I think what you know?
Speaker 2: So I never wore makeup before, and so I think
Speaker 2: it was playing around the makeup.
Speaker 6: I think the wigs.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of trial and there, so I
Speaker 2: could see how I can look a little bit older,
Speaker 2: but not you know, to the extent that people are saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, I'm like, wait a minute, no, you
Speaker 3: look good. So listen. You are from Chicago, yes, I'm
Speaker 3: from Detroit.
Speaker 1: Midwest is the best.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: That's why I love you.
Speaker 1: I love Drew and I instantly felt when it came
Speaker 1: to you, you came on this show being your authentic self.
Speaker 2: Flaws and all, You're gonna get everything from me because
Speaker 2: I feel like, just being a fan of the show
Speaker 2: for so.
Speaker 3: Long, that did you watch all the season I.
Speaker 6: Stopped when I think when.
Speaker 2: I'm just letting with the people, I.
Speaker 3: Think I said when you left.
Speaker 2: But you know, when I got the job.
Speaker 6: I had to catch up.
Speaker 2: But you know show, I was definitely a fan of
Speaker 2: the show, and you know, I just feel like I
Speaker 2: relate more to that era, you know, because those women
Speaker 2: were authentic. Not to say that these women are not,
Speaker 2: it's just the way that they present themselves. I think
Speaker 2: I aline with that more.
Speaker 1: Well, what is so interesting is so I worked on
Speaker 1: a show from season one one through four, than six
Speaker 1: through nine, season five, and your name came up and
Speaker 1: casting a lot, And I know I did an interview
Speaker 1: I said season three, and I think I got the
Speaker 1: timeline wrong. I want to say, maybe around like season
Speaker 1: six seven, your name came up as somebody we should
Speaker 1: talk to. Were you approach during that time? Were you
Speaker 1: even aware that we wanted you? Because sometimes you have
Speaker 1: representatives and sometimes representatives speak for you and you may not.
Speaker 3: Be aware of it.
Speaker 1: But were you're aware that we were sinking you out
Speaker 1: for a long time?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 6: And I like season three, like keep that narrative more.
Speaker 2: Out there. But you know what, when they did approach me,
Speaker 2: it was actually my daughter's friend. His name is Sir Julian,
Speaker 2: and he was like, you would be phenomenal for housewives
Speaker 2: because all of the kids at Woodard Academy love Housewives.
Speaker 2: I think it coded barbado. And he was like, miss Angela,
Speaker 2: I want you to get on this show. So he
Speaker 2: got me all the way to the exact truly, like
Speaker 2: no casting company, no one. He got me to the
Speaker 2: execs at the time. It was a lady by the
Speaker 2: name of Chelsea There.
Speaker 7: Yeah, casting I got live way drops go ahead, y'ap.
Speaker 2: And so I spoke to Chelsea and you know what,
Speaker 2: it wasn't you know, the timing wasn't right. And I
Speaker 2: thank god that the timing did not work because had
Speaker 2: I been.
Speaker 6: Casting there, oh my goodness, I would have been a wreck.
Speaker 3: Do you know what season that was?
Speaker 6: That was twenty sixteen, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty sixteen. I was around, So I know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. You weren't lying, Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was true.
Speaker 2: They you know, they approached us, and Julian, you know,
Speaker 2: got us the interview and we interviewed, but the timing
Speaker 2: and we interviewed again again, and the timing wasn't right.
Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful so.
Speaker 6: Grateful for that.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the heyday, because we do
Speaker 1: watch the show and everybody angelas like we would have
Speaker 1: love to see Angela with Mini Leaks, Yeah, with Charae
Speaker 1: with like the old kemp zosiac the ogs.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you fit more.
Speaker 1: With those girls than you do today with Portia Shamia
Speaker 1: and you know Kelly Well, I.
Speaker 2: Say, with those girls, I would kind of have been
Speaker 2: no shade to the current cast. You know, I love
Speaker 2: all the ladies, but I would have been more aligned.
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like now it's a little bit
Speaker 2: of I'm not gonna stoop down, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I'm always gonna be up here and you have
Speaker 2: to meet me at my level.
Speaker 6: I'm married, I have children.
Speaker 2: You know. Not to speak against those ladies, but again,
Speaker 2: I think I fit in with the older cast because
Speaker 2: the wigs were bad, you know, like you could get
Speaker 2: in with good a bad wig and be okay, this
Speaker 2: top model, like.
Speaker 4: What are we doing?
Speaker 6: Like it's every day a fashion show.
Speaker 2: I feel like the older cast would a receive me.
Speaker 6: Much better, and yes, so.
Speaker 2: You they would have received me better because now it's
Speaker 2: like gonna be a picked apart because I got a
Speaker 2: bad wi and they would have never done me like
Speaker 2: that again.
Speaker 3: Listen, I gotta be honest.
Speaker 1: With you, so honestly, I'm a former producer of the show.
Speaker 1: I am still a huge fan of the franchise. I
Speaker 1: said this publicly that I did feel like there were
Speaker 1: seasons that weren't excellent and I felt like this season
Speaker 1: is back to its roots. And I'm gonna say this
Speaker 1: also publicly. I've said on my podcast, I said on
Speaker 1: my Monday Night Live show with Claudia and Jordan and Dustin.
Speaker 3: Ross, and I'll say to your face, you are the
Speaker 3: reason for the season. You really are.
Speaker 4: You really are.
Speaker 1: And as somebody who has been their season one day one,
Speaker 1: there's not one motherfucker who recaps the show that knows
Speaker 1: more than me or understands how the machine works, although
Speaker 1: they try to, you know, discredit what I my expert opinion,
Speaker 1: and that's find what I'm saying to you is, as somebody.
Speaker 3: Who was a part of the foundation of building that show,
Speaker 3: right me and the rest of the amazing people at
Speaker 3: the production company as well and the network too.
Speaker 1: You are exactly what the real house boss of Atlanta
Speaker 1: was born to be. And you represent that and you
Speaker 1: are so naturally funny and naturally gifted.
Speaker 3: You remind me a lot.
Speaker 1: Of my old school girls who was able to read
Speaker 1: somebody and not yell.
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm yelling.
Speaker 1: At but but my favorite read from you will always be.
Speaker 4: But you got those miles.
Speaker 1: Stretch my no, no no, and you set their cool,
Speaker 1: calm and collected. And that's when I said, Angela Oakley
Speaker 1: is bringing the Real Housewives of Atlanta back to its
Speaker 1: glory days. And as a former executive producer, it would
Speaker 1: be remiss of me not to say to you to
Speaker 1: your face, I thank you, and I thank you for
Speaker 1: your services and I want to see you continue doing
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: You are magnificent.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You really are, and and I hope you know it's
Speaker 1: sincere what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 2: But to hear it from you like it means so
Speaker 2: much because you always want to know, am I doing
Speaker 2: this right? Am I doing a good job? No matter
Speaker 2: what it is I'm doing, I want to know. My
Speaker 2: love language is words of affirmation, like tell me I'm
Speaker 2: doing it right, And to hear it from you it
Speaker 2: feels good because a lot of people won't tell you
Speaker 2: know you're killing it, or you fit in, or you're
Speaker 2: doing what we need you to do. And so to
Speaker 2: hear it from you, it means a line. I appreciate it, No,
Speaker 2: and I mean that. I mean that.
Speaker 1: I mean that I saw that you recently was at
Speaker 1: the BT War and you were calling the audience with
Speaker 1: your fan on her.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I said, I don't.
Speaker 4: Think it's not gonna leave. It's like the American Express.
Speaker 3: Don't leave home.
Speaker 2: Without it, because I know. And the thing is, you know,
Speaker 2: people are like, it's air conditioning the building. Whenever I
Speaker 2: get high, it's internal, right. I can't turn the air
Speaker 2: conditioning off on my body. Yeah, so I have to
Speaker 2: keep my fan, and I just naturally, you know, if
Speaker 2: I feel a little something, I'm gonna turn on because
Speaker 2: my wig is not gonna slip off. And that's the
Speaker 2: second thing for having my fan. I want to make
Speaker 2: sure my lace is lace.
Speaker 4: It's it's lace today, Lacy good. The Bob's Bobby Bob.
Speaker 7: It's not like you know what I'm saying, And ain't
Speaker 7: like one.
Speaker 2: Of my favorites and ain't falling off. Nini is just
Speaker 2: we gotta give it to Nini. But I also love
Speaker 2: Claudia Clauda is amazing.
Speaker 3: You saw Nini at the BTD. What did she say
Speaker 3: to you about you being on the show?
Speaker 2: You know what? She just said, you know what, you
Speaker 2: look amazing. And we just had a little one too.
Speaker 2: She introduced me to her partner and we just did
Speaker 2: a little vibe. We had a little vibe. It was
Speaker 2: a nice little a nice little meeting. I know Nini,
Speaker 2: you know, I've seen her before and I was a
Speaker 2: part of her organization, Ladies of Success. So shout out
Speaker 2: to Nini. Uh and to get the high five from her,
Speaker 2: that means something, that means something, that's like girl, it's
Speaker 2: enough one for everybody. So I appreciated that for me
Speaker 2: from Nini. I did.
Speaker 3: Have you met Kim Zosiak before?
Speaker 2: Never? But I heard I would love her. She's a
Speaker 2: Taurus like I am. Oh yeah, so I heard I
Speaker 2: would love her. Really that I've heard that a few times.
Speaker 3: Have you met, no And you know what?
Speaker 2: I think I would love char.
Speaker 4: I see you and too, don't you think?
Speaker 2: I think so? I do too? And I only say
Speaker 2: that you know we shared well, my husband is her,
Speaker 2: they used to day. So I feel like charae wasn't
Speaker 2: one of the women who was looking for Charles after
Speaker 2: they broke up. You know, some women still, you know,
Speaker 2: hang around even after you got married. Charai just wasn't
Speaker 2: one of those women. So I don't feel like Charai
Speaker 2: would be, you know, a threat or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I feel like she would be a good and she's
Speaker 2: a Capricorn. My siblings are capricorns. Like I feel like
Speaker 2: Charai would be a good time. And I've heard that
Speaker 2: a lot from a lot of different people.
Speaker 3: Oh cha is the best time I heard that? Amazing.
Speaker 1: Did you find out being on the show that Charles
Speaker 1: and Charae dated or did he tell you prior to
Speaker 1: you joining the show?
Speaker 2: No, so he didn't. We didn't go through our list
Speaker 2: of exes, right like we didn't say our dated her.
Speaker 2: It never came up that way. I found out just
Speaker 2: based on conversation from people back in twenty seventeen when
Speaker 2: I initially cast it, because I believe Array was a
Speaker 2: part of that cat was she was a part of
Speaker 2: that cast, and so that's how it kind of I
Speaker 2: found out that they used to date, and so I
Speaker 2: didn't know the nature of their relationship. I didn't know
Speaker 2: how serious it was, and I you know, I've come
Speaker 2: to find out you know how serious it was or
Speaker 2: lack thereof. So they dated, you know, twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: And y'all don't run into each other at events or
Speaker 1: anything in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: No, you won't find me out too much in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm like Atlanta's hidden secret. I like to
Speaker 2: stay in the house, or I'm on a plane, I'm
Speaker 2: somewhere else. I don't like to sit around Atlanta that much.
Speaker 2: That's how a lot of people didn't know who I was.
Speaker 2: I was Atlanta's best kept secret.
Speaker 3: Well, baby, you are wide open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you listen? You're a beautiful woman from Chicago.
Speaker 1: What was your dreams and aspirations? Was it you ever
Speaker 1: see yourself being on a hit show and Bravo or
Speaker 1: being a part of the entertainment industry or did.
Speaker 3: You have other dreams and goals being in Chicago.
Speaker 2: I did so. Coming from Chicago, I knew I always
Speaker 2: wanted to be an entrepreneur. My background is in finance,
Speaker 2: and I just knew I wanted to go where the
Speaker 2: money was, no matter if that was behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: not so much in front of the scenes, but definitely
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. And be it that my husband is
Speaker 2: public facing. I kind of felt like, I can, you know,
Speaker 2: manage his situation, and so I never had aspirations of
Speaker 2: being in front of a camera, you know, outside of
Speaker 2: the audition of twenty sixteen. But no, no. I remember
Speaker 2: meeting with Larry.
Speaker 1: King and he was just like, not the legendary journalist
Speaker 1: Larry Kingry Larry as love Larry King.
Speaker 2: And he was just like, you know, he was just like,
Speaker 2: so what do you want to do? We met at
Speaker 2: he loved this coffee shop in la He for a
Speaker 2: frequent every day he would go there, and he was like,
Speaker 2: so what do you want to do? Do you want
Speaker 2: to be behind the scenes or in front of the camera.
Speaker 2: I was like, I care about the money. He said,
Speaker 2: I never cared about the business, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: if I don't, He just was pretty much saying like
Speaker 2: I care about being in front of the camera. I
Speaker 2: don't care about the business. And I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I care about the business, so I guess you know,
Speaker 2: there's no room for me in front of the camera
Speaker 2: because I care more about the business than being on
Speaker 2: in front of the camera. And Larry King was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he probably stay behind me. You know the camera, wow
Speaker 2: to handle the business, and he never cared about the business.
Speaker 3: And you know what's so funny, he accumulated so much wealth.
Speaker 2: Yes, he are a good team man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the thing.
Speaker 1: The thing is this, you have to have a team
Speaker 1: surrounding you who are good at business.
Speaker 3: So, for example, I am a businessman, but my moster
Speaker 3: from the camera.
Speaker 1: But I also know that there's no way in the
Speaker 1: world I'm able to do both successfully. So I have
Speaker 1: a great team around me who does great business. And
Speaker 1: for me, I focus on creating stuff and doing all the.
Speaker 3: Things I'm doing.
Speaker 1: And that's why I relate to you so much with
Speaker 1: the real estate because I want you to know I
Speaker 1: understand what that feels like when you have a real
Speaker 1: estate portfolio that.
Speaker 3: Doesn't go well.
Speaker 1: Because in this LLC community that we live in, we
Speaker 1: are sort of taught that in order to accumulate wealth,
Speaker 1: you have to invest in real estate. And your transparency
Speaker 1: of being, I believe was two million dollars a depth
Speaker 1: to the fact that you were able in this reality
Speaker 1: landscape where everybody is front and and buying stuff that
Speaker 1: can't afford and houses and foreclosure and renting the designer
Speaker 1: bags and things of that nature. Okay, the fact that
Speaker 1: you were so transparent about that when it came to
Speaker 1: your real estate portfolio, is it something you thought this.
Speaker 3: Would be good?
Speaker 1: Because everybody around me is telling me that's how you
Speaker 1: accumulate wealth in your sleep.
Speaker 2: Exactly the reason, exactly the reason that I went so hard,
Speaker 2: so fast, so far, and spent so much money, you know,
Speaker 2: and that bothers me.
Speaker 6: That kind of.
Speaker 2: Makes me mad that I fumbled like that. However, if
Speaker 2: I didn't have those properties, you would have never known me,
Speaker 2: because I would have lived my private life. I would
Speaker 2: have stayed behind the scenes doing what I normally do.
Speaker 2: And I was kind of persuaded to buy those properties.
Speaker 2: There was this investor, a portfolio investor overseas I won't
Speaker 2: name the country, who wanted to invest in American real estate,
Speaker 2: and so I was just like, Okay, I was introduced
Speaker 2: through a realtor, and I was like, let's accumulate some property.
Speaker 2: Let's grab some properties. And I bought luxury properties so
Speaker 2: with the intention of selling it to the portfolio investor
Speaker 2: for a profit. Sure enough, when it was time to sell,
Speaker 2: I had no portfolio investor, but I did have a
Speaker 2: portfolio of properties that needed to be renovated. So I
Speaker 2: had to hit the ground learning how to flip properties
Speaker 2: when I had no clue how to renovate anything. And
Speaker 2: I have multimillion dollar properties, So I'm scared. I'm frightening.
Speaker 2: I'm running out of funds because we carried those properties
Speaker 2: for three years and I'm rehabbing them while paying the
Speaker 2: mortgages on it. So it just got to a point
Speaker 2: where I was just like, Okay, I can sell them
Speaker 2: on the show, Like, look it on the show, Like,
Speaker 2: let's promote this on the show, not even taking into
Speaker 2: consideration the houses are not ready for market. You know,
Speaker 2: you're on the show. Let's hope they show a house.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: That. Yeah, and you know, I just hope. You know.
Speaker 2: I was hoping I could turn a profit, and no,
Speaker 2: that didn't happen. I lost a tremendous amount of money.
Speaker 2: We lost a tremendous amount of money doing that.
Speaker 3: And are do you are you still the owner of
Speaker 3: those four properties?
Speaker 2: No? Fore clothes, No, not all of them. Okay, I
Speaker 2: still have two, but the bigger ones. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: this house and this particular house was on the show,
Speaker 2: so I paid one point nine for that house and
Speaker 2: it's on the corner of hers, like it's a landmark
Speaker 2: property in Georgia. And I paid one point nine million
Speaker 2: four and it wasn't renovated, and so after renovations it
Speaker 2: should have netted about three million dollars. I would have
Speaker 2: had to put in about five hundred thousand and renovations,
Speaker 2: so probably about a five hundred thousand dollar profit if
Speaker 2: everything went well. And that includes carrying calls like I
Speaker 2: can go down the line.
Speaker 3: No, it's expensive.
Speaker 2: But long and behold. Yeah, I mean I got to
Speaker 2: the end and the bank was like, no, run us
Speaker 2: our properties, run us our property in that one.
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 1: And this is something that a lot of people who
Speaker 1: have money don't really talk about publicly.
Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted you to know that.
Speaker 1: You know, there's people like me and a lot of
Speaker 1: people who can relate to you who just did not
Speaker 1: understand the real estate market at the time and who
Speaker 1: thought like, this is your way of investment.
Speaker 3: So I don't want you to feel ashamed about that. Anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, because look at the blessing that you have now.
Speaker 1: And my advice to everybody watching this who are trying
Speaker 1: to like invest in real estate, if you don't have
Speaker 1: the love for it, the patience for it, or the
Speaker 1: education for it, don't do it. I would rather you,
Speaker 1: first of all, disclaimer, do what you want to do.
Speaker 1: I would rather you put that money into a stock portfolio.
Speaker 2: I would say stock for sure, right, and the bank
Speaker 2: is even safer, like, don't trudge it until you know
Speaker 2: a safe, sound investment from reputable people, because I got
Speaker 2: my advice from people that nobody should trust.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want you to know you're not along
Speaker 3: with that. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about your husband, Charles. You
Speaker 1: have a lot of fans and they're called fangelus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3: May be the president of cy of it.
Speaker 1: I love him.
Speaker 3: I'm a fangela. There's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Who love you and watch the show, and they feel
Speaker 1: like Charles does not love you the way that you
Speaker 1: love him. They feel like your husband is very dismissive
Speaker 1: of you. He did not seem to care that you
Speaker 1: were out of the country for anniversary. You guys do
Speaker 1: dual interviews together. They feel like he's very dismissive of you,
Speaker 1: and your fans are concerned that you are in a
Speaker 1: marriage that's one sided and they want you to run.
Speaker 2: I see I see the fans, and it's funny because
Speaker 2: you know, when I took the show, was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: everybody knows Charles. We're gonna be good. Everybody knows Charles
Speaker 2: from his NBA playing days. They know his attitude, they
Speaker 2: know who he is. And I was reading the comments
Speaker 2: on Twitter one day and they were like, girl, we
Speaker 2: don't know your husband. It was like, straight man, they
Speaker 2: know your.
Speaker 4: Basketball.
Speaker 2: And I read that comment. I was like, girl, you
Speaker 2: in danger because nobody is.
Speaker 4: God, I understand my husband.
Speaker 2: I just was like, oh, this is go one or
Speaker 2: two ways, and both of them are bad. First of all,
Speaker 2: First of all, Charles, what do you know about the
Speaker 2: husbands that a lot of people don't know about the
Speaker 2: husbands on this show? Is there anything you can say?
Speaker 3: They don't get paid.
Speaker 4: That's not a secret.
Speaker 1: Know Andy has said that, it's widely known, but husbands,
Speaker 1: all these housewives don't get paid.
Speaker 3: And that's my way.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go deeper, but go ahead.
Speaker 4: Oh they don't get paid.
Speaker 2: But that's that.
Speaker 1: And they feel like this is your thing, and husbands.
Speaker 3: Have to take so much of their time to do it.
Speaker 1: But that's why a lot of housewives give their husbands
Speaker 1: ten percent of their first.
Speaker 2: Of all, I gotta be getting paid. We're not gonna
Speaker 2: go the.
Speaker 3: Next season you did, but no.
Speaker 2: So Charles is one of the few husbands that I
Speaker 2: know that everywhere he shows up he gets paid because
Speaker 2: that's his brand. That's how he earns his money. He
Speaker 2: did that. They're years of work, or the twenty years
Speaker 2: of work to get to a place to where he
Speaker 2: can just show up and get paid. So a lot
Speaker 2: of what you see is me sitting there like, oh god,
Speaker 2: I hope you don't remember he's not getting paid. Oh
Speaker 2: I don't remember he's not getting paid because he's like,
Speaker 2: what am I doing? I'm only doing this for you.
Speaker 2: And when I asked him, you know, in the interview,
Speaker 2: like they're gonna think you don't love me, he's looking
Speaker 2: at me like girl. I wouldn't have done that at home.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been like, Charles, do you love me?
Speaker 2: You know? So a little bit of that was me
Speaker 2: putting on because I know my husband, and that's why
Speaker 2: I said I couldn't have done this in twenty seventeen
Speaker 2: or twenty sixteen, I would have believed my husband didn't
Speaker 2: love me. But I know that man loves me. There's
Speaker 2: nothing about what he's done or is doing present day
Speaker 2: that would make me feel he doesn't love me now,
Speaker 2: him being Charles and not picking up the phone while
Speaker 2: he's here watching the kids while I'm working on a
Speaker 2: casture on the first ring, I'm like, really, y'all this,
Speaker 2: how y'all Charles a sixty year old man who did
Speaker 2: not answer the phone, like.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is foreign about that? You know? And
Speaker 2: then when he did answer in the scene, you see
Speaker 2: my daughter like hey mommy, Like he's home with the kids,
Speaker 2: Like he didn't get any credit for that, and no shade,
Speaker 2: you know, I can't throw shade at the show or
Speaker 2: anything like that. But it's like he just got roked in.
Speaker 2: But he is there in some scenes, he's like the
Speaker 2: only man and he's like why am I here?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: But he is truly doing that for me and him
Speaker 2: and his grumpiness that's who he is now. If it
Speaker 2: means he doesn't love me, that's not the case. My
Speaker 2: husband loves me. And furthermore, why does the man get
Speaker 2: so much credit? Why would I be with the man
Speaker 2: who didn't love me? Like I'm self made, have my
Speaker 2: own money. I met him as being one of his neighbors,
Speaker 2: and I'm confident the second time. Yeah, So I'm confident
Speaker 2: who I am. So I'm not gonna be with anyone because,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I want this man to love me.
Speaker 2: No respect is there, and none of this is disrespect.
Speaker 2: We don't tolerate disrespect to one another, like we don't curse.
Speaker 2: There's no name calling. It's I know my husband and
Speaker 2: the world don't know my husband. So I had to
Speaker 2: take that with a grain of salt, especially when the
Speaker 2: person said, we don't know your husband.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So when it comes to Charles THEO, what
Speaker 1: is one thing about him that you wish the world
Speaker 1: could see that we're not seeing.
Speaker 2: On the show, And it could have been shown like
Speaker 2: just his fathering, his nurturing, Like I come home, I
Speaker 2: met with a meal every day. He cooks for you
Speaker 2: every day every day, like I get mad with I'm
Speaker 2: like the man in that aspect, I'm like, what a wood?
Speaker 2: You know what you mean? All day? Ain't nothing on
Speaker 2: the stone, No he cooks for me, and he's he
Speaker 2: understands me. He's patient, patient with me, and he gives
Speaker 2: me what I need. And so I know people are
Speaker 2: looking for this, this outwardly affectionate person. He's just not that,
Speaker 2: But that doesn't introduce his love for me, you know,
Speaker 2: and how he shows it for me. And I love
Speaker 2: my husband. He loves me too. He loves me too.
Speaker 2: I have my family.
Speaker 1: I said it on my YouTube show, My Mother and
Speaker 1: I Live, I said, Charles Oakley reminds.
Speaker 3: Me of my father.
Speaker 2: Everybody says that.
Speaker 1: So my father was born in nineteen forty nine, he's
Speaker 1: seventy six. He is an old school black man from Detroit, Michigan,
Speaker 1: and my father.
Speaker 3: Just doesn't show affection.
Speaker 1: So growing up, I never thought my father loved me
Speaker 1: because he never said it. And years later I spoke
Speaker 1: to him and he said.
Speaker 3: My Papa, Taul's crazy, motherfucker.
Speaker 4: I thought you all this shit and you needed this,
Speaker 4: and you.
Speaker 3: Know, my father takes credit everything. Look at you now, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: That's me.
Speaker 4: That's it, okay.
Speaker 1: So I understood my father's love language was different, and
Speaker 1: the way my father.
Speaker 3: Loved about my mother wasn't what you see in the movies.
Speaker 1: So when I look at Charles, I always said, look,
Speaker 1: I understand that maybe this this younger generation may not
Speaker 1: understand how an old school black man loves up on
Speaker 1: his wife. And I never thought he was dismissive to you.
Speaker 1: I promise I never thought that. And the one thing
Speaker 1: that I always thought was this man is this legendary
Speaker 1: NBA player, and.
Speaker 3: I want to have a real conversation with you.
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that when it comes to
Speaker 1: a man of that status to be okay with his
Speaker 1: wife having her turn at this, that sometimes that's not
Speaker 1: the case. Because one thing I will say to you,
Speaker 1: I have spoken to a lot of wives of former
Speaker 1: sports athletes players right who's who made the decision of
Speaker 1: their wife not joining reality television because they wanted to
Speaker 1: keep their wife in the house and they knew that
Speaker 1: I do not want to share the spotlight with her.
Speaker 1: So I know for a fact that the fact that
Speaker 1: you're on the show is because your husband believes in
Speaker 1: you and he wants this for you.
Speaker 3: Because so many girls, even when I.
Speaker 1: Was on Hospital in Atlanta and I spent one season,
Speaker 1: season nine contacting, I spoke to seventy five women and
Speaker 1: a lot of them said to me, I want to
Speaker 1: do it, but my husband won't let me. He won't
Speaker 1: let me, and I know that there have to be
Speaker 1: a conversation with you and Charles about you joining the show.
Speaker 3: What made him say I'm okay.
Speaker 2: With this, and I appreciate you giving him that, giving
Speaker 2: him credit for that. Just wanting to dim his light,
Speaker 2: if you will, and just say go. Even when we're
Speaker 2: out now and we're walking or whatever, he'll push me
Speaker 2: forward like there she go, y'all, there she go, Like
Speaker 2: he's my biggest fan. Aside from that, in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: we were not ready and he was more reluctant than
Speaker 2: he was just like no, And now I know why
Speaker 2: because he was doing what he probably wanted to do.
Speaker 2: And now he's just like, you know what, it is,
Speaker 2: your turn, you know, do what you want to do.
Speaker 2: I got your back, Like I am a good wife.
Speaker 2: And when I tell you a good wife, not so much.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit back and let you do what you
Speaker 2: want to do. Not that kind of wife. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna build you up, I'm gonna support you. I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm just there, you know, I'm a good wife, good mom,
Speaker 2: all of that, and to go back to your father.
Speaker 2: As far as affection, Now, if you see Charles with
Speaker 2: the kids, yeah, it's like night like this is his world.
Speaker 2: So they get all of that. And I believe this
Speaker 2: man in n born in nineteen sixty two, sixty three, whatever,
Speaker 2: he has a certain amount of affection that he can
Speaker 2: provide or that he gives, and he gives it to
Speaker 2: me in the way that I need it, and he
Speaker 2: gives it to my kids in the way that they
Speaker 2: need it. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna stand beside
Speaker 2: him because I know the world don't get to see that.
Speaker 2: And I hate that they didn't show that because there
Speaker 2: was plenty of that to be seen. But you know,
Speaker 2: and back to he's you know, he didn't get paid.
Speaker 2: All of this is him doing this for me. Him
Speaker 2: showing up in a room full of women he do
Speaker 2: not know who's starting rumors or who's just participating in
Speaker 2: rumors about him, says a lot. And he is so
Speaker 2: no nonsense For him to sit there patiently knowing he
Speaker 2: ready to cost everybody. I appreciate, you know, it's only
Speaker 2: because of his love for me. So we did have
Speaker 2: the conversation when we got the show this year. We
Speaker 2: met with everyone and he's just like, I just hope
Speaker 2: you do her right. And he told that to production.
Speaker 2: I could just do her right, you know, because I
Speaker 2: know how it could be a lot of BS involved.
Speaker 2: Just make sure she's done right. And anytime he may
Speaker 2: have felt excuse me, I wasn't done right, you would
Speaker 2: make that known too. So we did have that conversation
Speaker 2: and it landed us here. So we're on the same
Speaker 2: page and he's showing up.
Speaker 3: No, he shows up, and that means more than anything.
Speaker 1: So one of the things that I do want to
Speaker 1: talk to you about your transparency on the show because
Speaker 1: what I do feel is missing in the landscape of
Speaker 1: reality television is a lot of people joined for the
Speaker 1: wrong reasons.
Speaker 3: They joined the show for.
Speaker 1: Instant faith, and that's okay, that's fine, but there is
Speaker 1: an exchange because it's a reality show. So the exchange
Speaker 1: in your design for fame or money is to showcase
Speaker 1: your reality. Just like a singer can make money off
Speaker 1: of being famous and all of those things if he
Speaker 1: or she doesn't open the mouth to sing a song.
Speaker 1: So I look at it that way when it comes
Speaker 1: to reality. You have been very transparent about your reality.
Speaker 1: You were very honest about Charles' infidelity, and you talk
Speaker 1: about maybe it didn't work out for you guys in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen because he was doing his own thing, right.
Speaker 1: What I want to talk to you about is his infidelity.
Speaker 1: How did that impact you when you discovered it?
Speaker 2: You know, So Charles we got married. I think he
Speaker 2: was fifty three and I think he was the early fifties,
Speaker 2: but he had never been married, and so I was
Speaker 2: just like, I know, he waited all his life for me,
Speaker 2: and I was very delusional about out what was happening
Speaker 2: in regards to growing up. I thought, you know, you
Speaker 2: get married, there's this white picket fence in this house,
Speaker 2: and you live happily ever after, not really breaking down
Speaker 2: the individual you're marrying or the individual you have to
Speaker 2: become to be married. And so when I found out,
Speaker 2: of course, i was I'm like, wait a minute, you wait,
Speaker 2: all these just first of all, people DM me. Uh
Speaker 2: when we were dating. Yeah, someone DM me, And I
Speaker 2: was just like and uh, And so I said, and
Speaker 2: if you see and you know on the show, I'm like,
Speaker 2: my dms are flooded. Well that's where that came from.
Speaker 2: Someone DM me. A few people DM me like, hey,
Speaker 2: oh he's married. I didn't know this when we first
Speaker 2: got married. And uh, someone actually did that too when
Speaker 2: we were dating, and I'm like, wait a minute, like
Speaker 2: what's going on. You're you at this big age and
Speaker 2: you don't understand what marriage is?
Speaker 1: Did you ever come from him with those texts?
Speaker 3: And he would deny it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he was just like no, you know,
Speaker 2: but I was crushed, and I'm like, okay, I get
Speaker 2: who you are, Like I'm sure Carlo dms are popping,
Speaker 2: but you know, we can't act like, you know, have
Speaker 2: options in these streams. You know what I mean, don't.
Speaker 4: Interview a child.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying is you get what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna act like this man don't got outs.
Speaker 4: So I had to say that into.
Speaker 2: Consideration, like Okay, you know, he's been single all these years.
Speaker 4: I love you so much, he's been single all these years.
Speaker 2: So he gotta let the you know, the party know
Speaker 2: like it's a new So I'm gonna give you grace
Speaker 2: for that. Let these women know because he was single,
Speaker 2: who's single for fifty something? So he had to let
Speaker 2: everybody know I was just like, in my mind, I'm
Speaker 2: thinking like, okay, I have zero tolerance for this, but
Speaker 2: let's just give him a little grace a month to
Speaker 2: let everybody know, you know, like, hey, i'm married, now,
Speaker 2: I'm married, now I'm danying, I'm seeing someone, whatever the
Speaker 2: timeframe was in the relationship, and so I felt like
Speaker 2: he was taking too long let everybody know. I felt
Speaker 2: like he was taken too long. And so that was
Speaker 2: the beginning of our marriage twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Then Madison squad Garden happened, and I was just it
Speaker 2: was just like, okay, that was a lot, and so
Speaker 2: that continued him just not fully committing to our marriage.
Speaker 2: And so I was devastated because I'm newly married. I
Speaker 2: just had a baby, so I'm dealing with postpartum and
Speaker 2: I'm learning all this information like what you marry me,
Speaker 2: so this means you're with me? And I will say this.
Speaker 2: A lot of the women that he dated didn't care,
Speaker 2: you know, so here I come like, no, we clean
Speaker 2: it all this out. Because he's used to women who
Speaker 2: didn't really care, and so it was foreign to him
Speaker 2: to have someone say no, this is what marriage looks
Speaker 2: like to me, and this is what a relationship with
Speaker 2: me looks like. So we had clean this up. This
Speaker 2: is not it. And again the Madison Square Garden happened.
Speaker 2: He was doing good and then he just.
Speaker 1: And how long were you guys separated after that institute?
Speaker 2: It wasn't that long. It was probably about three or
Speaker 2: four months. It wasn't that long. It w and we
Speaker 2: lived separately cause I'm like, this is a lot. But
Speaker 2: before the separation, I was just like, Okay, am I
Speaker 2: gonna stick hang in here? You know, am I gonna
Speaker 2: deal with this? It's just too much. It was too
Speaker 2: much because I didn't feel like I was getting the
Speaker 2: support or the the action I needed from him. And
Speaker 2: so he started to make strides and we got in
Speaker 2: therapy because he was willing to fight for it, and
Speaker 2: he was just like, you know what, I'm not about
Speaker 2: to lose my family. I had a new baby, and
Speaker 2: you know it took him sometimes to clean out that
Speaker 2: closet and did I did.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of women who are watching this.
Speaker 1: What advice would you give married women who have experienced
Speaker 1: their husband cheating on them during the marriage and finding
Speaker 1: a place within your heart for forgiveness, to take him
Speaker 1: back and to really work together on the second win
Speaker 1: of your matrimony.
Speaker 2: First of all, it has to be some level of respect, right,
Speaker 2: this was nothing. He was blatantly Like he calls me
Speaker 2: the FBI because I was looking for like, he wasn't
Speaker 2: forward cheating, Like you know what I mean? Do you
Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? He wasn't being disrespectful.
Speaker 1: There is a thing called disrespectful cheating And for the
Speaker 1: audience to know, cause you don't know, is when you
Speaker 1: are just blatantly out here taking girls to the same
Speaker 1: spot to take your why and then like you know,
Speaker 1: just being very open about it, disrespectful.
Speaker 2: So he was definitely convert and it will take a
Speaker 2: level of investigation for me to find out because you know,
Speaker 2: I wanted to know. I did go through his phone,
Speaker 2: you know, that's how I found out. And you know,
Speaker 2: in addition to women DM and me. So he calls
Speaker 2: me the FBI because I want to know what's going on.
Speaker 2: But if the respect isn't there, I wouldn't And you know,
Speaker 2: cheating is disrespectful. It is disrespectful to your vowels, it's
Speaker 2: disrespectful to your relationship. So I'm not going to say
Speaker 2: I wasn't disrespected, because I was. But I will say,
Speaker 2: if your husband is really trying to and it's not
Speaker 2: hard to stop, right, it's not hard to stop your
Speaker 2: wife like this is not anything you know hard? Uh.
Speaker 2: With Charles, he was willing to make those steps, and
Speaker 2: again he did the work. You know, he went to
Speaker 2: therapy as a man who's never stepped foot in therapy.
Speaker 2: He was like, is this what it takes for me
Speaker 2: to save my family? And why do I do these things?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I was a professional basketball player. These women just it
Speaker 2: was easy, you know, it was just easy. Like he's
Speaker 2: jet setting with some of the biggest names that we know,
Speaker 2: so it's easy. And so for him, he was just
Speaker 2: he didn't see anything wrong with it until I came along.
Speaker 2: So I would say to those women, if your husband
Speaker 2: is willing to make the strides to make it work,
Speaker 2: then hang in there. But if it's abusive, disrespectful, all
Speaker 2: of those things, by no means, by no means, by
Speaker 2: no means.
Speaker 3: Some of just dawned to me. Is that the reason
Speaker 3: why when portion made the inappropriate joke.
Speaker 1: About fucking your husband, did that trigger something in you?
Speaker 1: Just based on what you had to deal with with
Speaker 1: not only women DM and you are you were dating,
Speaker 1: not only this happened when you're married to him, knowing
Speaker 1: that within your husband experience there are beautiful women who
Speaker 1: don't mind being a side chick. They wear it on
Speaker 1: their chest, and you having to separate from him from
Speaker 1: three to four months because of this. When you heard that,
Speaker 1: did that trigger the past trauma that you had to
Speaker 1: experience in terms of like I am.
Speaker 3: Reminded of what I had to recover from.
Speaker 2: You know what a lot of people think. You know,
Speaker 2: I ran in the DMS like, oh, if Portia can
Speaker 2: sleep with him, then he ain't. And you you know,
Speaker 2: why are you so can that? A woman said that,
Speaker 2: you know, said that about your husband. I wasn't if
Speaker 2: it was twenty seventeen, yeah, but be it that we
Speaker 2: did the work and I really really trust my husband.
Speaker 2: The issue was pretty It wasn't really Charles. It was
Speaker 2: the disrespect to me as his wife or as a
Speaker 2: woman on this show with you. That's where the disrespect.
Speaker 2: I ain't even let the disrespect get to Charles. You're
Speaker 2: disrespecting me. First of all, we're gonna acknowledge me. That's
Speaker 2: where I got triggered. She could have said everything she
Speaker 2: wanted to say about Charles, but you're talking about my husband,
Speaker 2: So first you have to deal with me, and you're
Speaker 2: doing it. You're saying it an earshot of me, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's where the disrespect was. And it didn't take
Speaker 2: me to any trauma or anything like oh he cheated.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, this is woman and woman, this
Speaker 2: is grown woman stuff. You're disrespecting me, Angela, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I'm here as a woman trying
Speaker 2: to do my job just like you are. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a threat that she would
Speaker 2: have acted on or tried to, and it would have
Speaker 2: been like nothing she's ever seen before if she did,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because I'm just not that
Speaker 2: type of girl you can play with like that. You know,
Speaker 2: you can't disrespect me till my face about my husband
Speaker 2: and think you're going to act on that. That's just
Speaker 2: not the games I played. But I don't even think
Speaker 2: people see that the disrespect was aimed at me.
Speaker 1: I wanted to cause again, you talked about it before
Speaker 1: in this conversation, especially on my podcast. I like to
Speaker 1: go deeper than the surface stuff. So again, that question
Speaker 1: came to me just based on your experience. Because one
Speaker 1: of those things like this, if I overcame something and
Speaker 1: I hear something within earshot.
Speaker 3: That's not being said to my face, but I'm hearing it.
Speaker 1: All of these memories and stuff that I healed from
Speaker 1: is now coming back to the forefront. So I just
Speaker 1: want to know if it was something to where it was,
Speaker 1: like I dealt with this situation before. I don't know
Speaker 1: you that well, I'm getting to know you. You're saying
Speaker 1: it behind my back. There are people who say you
Speaker 1: steal people's husbands, So I want to know, like, well,
Speaker 1: all of those things coming.
Speaker 2: To your it was coming to me in a place
Speaker 2: of disrespect. It wasn't a place it wasn't a place
Speaker 2: of fear. Do you see what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 2: found disrespected?
Speaker 1: Did you feel for did you ever think for a
Speaker 1: second that Porsche was capable of acting out on that comment?
Speaker 2: Well, I thought she was capable of what could she
Speaker 2: do it? No, because that goes back to the work
Speaker 2: me and my husband is done. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope that's I get.
Speaker 1: It you okay, because I want to I want to
Speaker 1: clear the air for the work. It was never about
Speaker 1: Porsche being capable of acting out on the threat successfully
Speaker 1: because you and your husband did the work, and regardless
Speaker 1: if Porschell wanted to or not, your issue was never
Speaker 1: could she be successful in doing that to Charles? Because
Speaker 1: it could be Porsche, it could be Princess, it could
Speaker 1: be polar it could be any woman. But it has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Porsche per se. I know my
Speaker 1: husband and I know that the work we've done eradicates
Speaker 1: him from even wanting to do that.
Speaker 3: It was presented to him. You were more focused on
Speaker 3: this woman.
Speaker 1: It's saying something about my husband, and she's disrespecting me,
Speaker 1: and she's doing it behind my back, and she's doing
Speaker 1: it laughing and joking with other women, two who are married,
Speaker 1: and they're all thinking this a joke, and they're playing
Speaker 1: in my face.
Speaker 2: That's where what got it. The disrespect was there from
Speaker 2: the beginning, got it. So as far as Charles, if
Speaker 2: it was in portion like you said, it could be polite.
Speaker 2: Not I don't want to say, because that is every day.
Speaker 2: There are women now who would plea with my husband.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That threat is never going
Speaker 2: to be gone, no matter who says it, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So the work has to be with Charles,
Speaker 2: because I can't block all of that no matter who
Speaker 2: says it. So the work has to be with my husband.
Speaker 2: But as far as we were concerned, you're disrespecting me,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Me, Angela right here on
Speaker 2: this show with you. And that's where it became an
Speaker 2: issue because you can say whatever you want. And again,
Speaker 2: people want to throw you off your game, especially if
Speaker 2: you're seen as a threat, or you're coming on strong,
Speaker 2: or you you're doing good at what you do. People
Speaker 2: want to throw you on your you know, throw you
Speaker 2: off your game. And that isn't gonna happen with me.
Speaker 2: I wanted to first establish boundaries with respect, and you're
Speaker 2: being Hella disrespectful to me. And then Charles comes and
Speaker 2: all that, my kids, all that comes after that, But
Speaker 2: first you gotta deal with me.
Speaker 3: In your heart of hearts, do you like Porscha?
Speaker 2: You know what I do? I mean, in my heart
Speaker 2: of hearts, I think she's a fun girl, you know,
Speaker 2: all of the things. But do I like that character
Speaker 2: trait of a woman who can say that? Who could
Speaker 2: even say that? No, I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't surround
Speaker 2: myself with that with someone who would say that, So
Speaker 2: you hear what I'm saying. So No, I don't align
Speaker 2: with that at all at all. But as far as
Speaker 2: the flip side, I think she's a fun girl and
Speaker 2: that's bigger than just Porsche. I don't want to talk
Speaker 2: about Porsch any woman who can just say that I
Speaker 2: don't align with Like, I take my vowels and my
Speaker 2: marriage seriously and as well as I take my respect
Speaker 2: for me seriously.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be hard for you and Porsche
Speaker 1: to ever develop a real friendship because of what she said.
Speaker 2: About She's apologized and she's apologized to him. I think
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where it's just like I
Speaker 2: see you, you know what I mean, Like I see you,
Speaker 2: and that's just gonna always be there. And that's because
Speaker 2: that's the space you created. That's not anything I did.
Speaker 2: That's the space you created. So no, I feel like
Speaker 2: you just know, you know, I see you, I see you.
Speaker 2: And that's if she never acted on it or had
Speaker 2: any intentions on acting on it, it's just we just
Speaker 2: gotta stop. At the point of you said it, you
Speaker 2: know that means something just saying it.
Speaker 3: You know, would you ever invite Porsche to your home?
Speaker 3: I did, well, you know, like around Charles.
Speaker 2: You know what, I trust Charles. It's nothing she can
Speaker 2: do to Charles right so, and to bye anyone into
Speaker 2: my home. We have to have a relationship. I'm not
Speaker 2: just gonna say, oh, let's let's see if Portia could
Speaker 2: fuck Charles. You know, That's not what I'm trying to
Speaker 2: do with any woman, a woman who says that. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Porsche. She has a beautiful home. She
Speaker 2: doesn't probably need a reason to come to my house.
Speaker 2: But as far as where we are right now, I
Speaker 2: think it's still steps that need to be taken.
Speaker 1: I do want to get your thoughts on brit When
Speaker 1: Kenya did the poster boards of revealing you know, BRIT's
Speaker 1: alleged past, bring me in a comment that she was
Speaker 1: under investigation per her you know, for her insurance license.
Speaker 1: You instantly was like, that doesn't make any sense to me,
Speaker 1: and she was really aggressive. But when it came to
Speaker 1: her defending her statement, and you, again, cool, calm and collected,
Speaker 1: said I know that life, I know that world, and
Speaker 1: I don't buy it is that the moment that you
Speaker 1: started to question who brit Edie really is in terms
Speaker 1: of her character.
Speaker 2: I think the moment I started to question her character
Speaker 2: was we were all speaking with her after she made
Speaker 2: the gun threat and we were asking Meia's house. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw the you did see we
Speaker 2: were as Samia's house and we had a moment with
Speaker 2: her after she made the gun threat to Kenya and
Speaker 2: we were like, girl, you did too much, Like why
Speaker 2: would you even say that? She was very in that moment.
Speaker 2: She was very unapologetic. It was also it was just
Speaker 2: almost like entitled, you know. It was just almost like
Speaker 2: I made a mistake whatever, you know, And I just
Speaker 2: felt like, girl, just have some empathy, you know. And
Speaker 2: I realized then that, okay, she lacks accountability and whatever
Speaker 2: she does. And you know, I've been a mom a
Speaker 2: long time, so I can see, you know, certain qualities
Speaker 2: and in her it was just she's never gonna hold
Speaker 2: herself accountable. And that's not saying anything bad about her.
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, a character flaw that she had
Speaker 2: and I was able to pick up on it.
Speaker 3: Were you surprised that Britain I show up at the reunion.
Speaker 2: Oh, of course, of course. I was definitely surprised because
Speaker 2: she had been on social media like I can't wait
Speaker 2: to see you guys at the reunion, you know, and
Speaker 2: I felt like there was a lot she needed to
Speaker 2: answer to. You know, she said a lot, She said
Speaker 2: a lot you know, about me, about my husband, and
Speaker 2: I feel like she needed to answer to that. So
Speaker 2: for her to, you know, not come to the reunion,
Speaker 2: I didn't like that. I want her to be there.
Speaker 2: I really want her to be there, and she wasn't,
Speaker 2: But I feel like she should have, you know, been there.
Speaker 3: What do you think my everything going on with her
Speaker 3: right now that she's doing.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think she feels like she's right, and
Speaker 2: again she she has a case, you know, she feels
Speaker 2: that way. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at what
Speaker 2: she's doing. And I hate it had to happen that
Speaker 2: way for her, But I'm not surprised she took that
Speaker 2: route at all.
Speaker 3: Why aren't you surprised?
Speaker 2: Because it keeps the attention on her, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not deducing anything she's experienced or her feelings,
Speaker 2: because that's big with her. You don't understand how I feel. No,
Speaker 2: I'm not deducing her feelings. I'm just saying it keeps
Speaker 2: everything on her and even while feeling it was me me,
Speaker 2: no matter what the situation was. So it just continues
Speaker 2: that narrative that look at me, this is what's happening
Speaker 2: to me, you know, damn everybody else.
Speaker 1: Do you think Kelly distanced herself from Britt the moment
Speaker 1: after the pictures came about King has removed from the show,
Speaker 1: You and her get into a little tiff. She starts
Speaker 1: to get to a few of the girls. Do you
Speaker 1: think Kelly just started to realize Do you think Kelly
Speaker 1: realized that brit is a seeking ship and I may
Speaker 1: need to hop on another team.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely no shade to Kelly, even though she
Speaker 2: probably will take this to shade, but absolutely I really
Speaker 2: feel like what made the Og so good is that
Speaker 2: they will die on a hill by themselves. They don't
Speaker 2: care about lashing on to anybody.
Speaker 8: I love that about the Ogs and I wanted to
Speaker 8: embody that, and when I don't see the other women
Speaker 8: embodying that, like, yeah, so what I'm brit spryand I'm
Speaker 8: gonna down this hill?
Speaker 2: Is Britspryan?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Wrong or indifferent, you know what I mean, That's what.
Speaker 6: I wanted to see.
Speaker 2: But when I saw, I'm like, girl, you know she
Speaker 2: just I'm not gonna say that she jumped ship. Yeah
Speaker 2: she did.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad I got you because I want to
Speaker 3: ask you this because.
Speaker 4: I don't think a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people caught it.
Speaker 1: So in portion made an inappropriate joke, and you saw
Speaker 1: her best friends to me in the pool with HERBIEKINNI
Speaker 1: laughing at it and not standing upper married women. I
Speaker 1: felt that Angela Ogley said, which which, by the way,
Speaker 1: before I continued, I.
Speaker 3: Fucked the moment. I said, I'm ok.
Speaker 1: The is the morning after You're in the lobby and
Speaker 1: Kelly and her bubble gum personality honey came in bubbly,
Speaker 1: sparkly like a Sarah Tooga sparkling water child, and you
Speaker 1: gave her nothing and you said I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: I said, I ain't.
Speaker 4: Faked, bitch, bye, I said, oh, do I stand for?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 1: I felt that as you were driven back to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: you said, oh, bitch, I got y'all, Samia that little
Speaker 1: secret you told me and drew where I put my
Speaker 1: fingers back here across the when y'all.
Speaker 4: Pinky swore.
Speaker 1: Hu and Shmillah told you all the things she felt
Speaker 1: about Porsche. And when you rid a Porsche to your
Speaker 1: rental property playing tennis, honey giving Serena Williams, t'se yeah, so.
Speaker 4: And you said to.
Speaker 2: Her, oh my gosh, it was going to be a Porsche.
Speaker 4: Did you orchar state that as a payback?
Speaker 2: Not intentionally, It kind of just fell and line that way,
Speaker 2: because you know what I have been confiding in Shamia.
Speaker 2: I felt like Shami and I were building a report.
Speaker 2: You know, you saw us at the studio together, You
Speaker 2: saw me at her house with brit She gave me
Speaker 2: the olive branch. I felt like Shamie and I were
Speaker 2: building a rapport and we connected on being married and
Speaker 2: all these things. So for me to witness her acting
Speaker 2: that way, and you know in Nashville, I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, Like, I don't owe you anything. You didn't
Speaker 2: owe me anything in that moment with Porsche. So why
Speaker 2: am I, you know, holding true to this Pinky promise?
Speaker 2: So why am I holding things that you told me
Speaker 2: in confidence when you you know, you didn't have my
Speaker 2: back on I needed you to have my back and
Speaker 2: so I felt like Porscha needed to know these things,
Speaker 2: and she did, and I didn't tell it in a
Speaker 2: way to destroy their friendship, Because if you're friends with
Speaker 2: someone twenty years, if you let Angela Oakley come through
Speaker 2: with you know, two minutes of conversation and destroy it,
Speaker 2: that friendship was already rocky, you know. So I feel
Speaker 2: like Porsche needed to know those things. Yes, so I
Speaker 2: did save it for that moment.
Speaker 1: Based on what Shamiyah said to you Andrew doing this
Speaker 1: Pinky Square conversation, and based on her actions as she
Speaker 1: was telling it to you. Do you feel like Shemiah
Speaker 1: is jealous of Porsche or do you think Porscha is
Speaker 1: jealous of Shemiah.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think Portia is jealous of Shamia.
Speaker 2: I know that's the running narrative. I don't think that
Speaker 2: at all. I don't think Shamiah is jealous of Portia.
Speaker 2: I do think, and I said this before, I do
Speaker 2: think that when Shamiah was invited on the show, she
Speaker 2: wanted it and she did what she had to do
Speaker 2: to get it. I don't know if Porscha was welcoming
Speaker 2: of that, but I feel like she wanted to be
Speaker 2: on this platform. I don't know where jealousy comes in.
Speaker 2: I just feel like some you know, maybe Porscha's like, girl,
Speaker 2: this is mine, this is mine, do your thing. I'm
Speaker 2: good over here. I'll bring you over from time to time.
Speaker 2: And Shmi was like, I want it too, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's probably where the strain began. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's jealousy, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: think it's jealousy. Jealousy is a strong word for someone,
Speaker 2: for a group of girls who've been friends, you know,
Speaker 2: all those years. So I think maybe a little envy,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I want that. Maybe she covered it
Speaker 2: the platform, Shamiah, But I don't think they're jealous of
Speaker 2: one another.
Speaker 1: Do you think shod Me and Porscha are real friends?
Speaker 1: Just based on you being around them filming and stuff.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm confused. Sometimes I'm looking around like is that real?
Speaker 2: You know? Are they for real? But I will say
Speaker 2: now I know that they are truly at a place impass.
Speaker 2: I truly think they're, you know, taking some space from
Speaker 2: one another.
Speaker 3: Fadri came back to the show.
Speaker 1: You watched the show before prior to Phaedria coming back
Speaker 1: this season were you a fan of Phaedra?
Speaker 2: You know what, I was a fan of the one
Speaker 2: read that she had. You know what you will know
Speaker 2: is that your husband, you know, my daughter, you know
Speaker 2: that one platinum in our house with my daughter. So
Speaker 2: I was a fan of that. But as far as
Speaker 2: her character, no, I really you know, she was quiet.
Speaker 2: She had a little few jazz, but I was mostly
Speaker 2: team Kenya during that whole you know, back and forth
Speaker 2: because Keenya just cracked me up, you know, and her
Speaker 2: little reads back and forth with Phaedra, no shade to Thadre.
Speaker 2: It's just that that's who I, you know, liked in
Speaker 2: that little battle.
Speaker 1: So when Faedri came back to the show, what were
Speaker 1: your thoughts as you were feeling with her?
Speaker 2: You know what, it's so crazy, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like she was going to
Speaker 2: come for me. I just felt like I just didn't
Speaker 2: feel the energy would be authentic. And that's just and
Speaker 2: I have a little bit of discernment. I have a
Speaker 2: great sense of discernment. I just kind of felt like
Speaker 2: that would be the case. And I mentioned it to
Speaker 2: someone who will remain nameless unless she wants to.
Speaker 3: Come for it and she was a former housewife of Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, And.
Speaker 2: She was like, she wouldn't do that. She's not gonna
Speaker 2: come for you, She's I was just like, it just
Speaker 2: makes sense, you know. I felt like she would. And
Speaker 2: I wasn't wrong. She did, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: She did. Even watching it now, I see the jabs
Speaker 2: she's making. I see the in role she's making to
Speaker 2: my husband and the thing she said about him. So
Speaker 2: I wasn't wrong. My discernment wasn't wrong. And a lot
Speaker 2: of fans are like, don't you know I mentioned it
Speaker 2: on another interview. They were like, doesn't have to come
Speaker 2: for you? Who do you think you are? No one
Speaker 2: knows you. I was just like, yeah, it's something there.
Speaker 3: Why do you think Faedra is coming for you?
Speaker 1: You're watching the show, she's making tons of comments about
Speaker 1: your looks. Why do you think Faedra is coming for
Speaker 1: you so soon?
Speaker 2: Because who else? Who else? This is? This is a
Speaker 2: show like who else? And it wouldn't be Portia or
Speaker 2: Shramia had her back and forth Kelly and Britton, no
Speaker 2: one would you know, nobody would have cared, you know,
Speaker 2: and so here I am, and so why not you know,
Speaker 2: why not?
Speaker 1: Do you believe what we're seeing happening now with these
Speaker 1: episodes airing? We just saw this episode that you know,
Speaker 1: there's this rumor that Phaedra allegedly started that Charles is
Speaker 1: still cheating on you, and that comes out and you and.
Speaker 3: Faedra have a back and forth about it.
Speaker 1: Do you believe Faedra came back on the show and
Speaker 1: started this rumor that Charles is still cheating on you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And you know this because.
Speaker 2: Because of the person she used to start the rumor
Speaker 2: told me it was her.
Speaker 3: Do you believe this person telling the truth?
Speaker 2: Yes, he had a lot to lose if he didn't,
Speaker 2: and it's just who he is and things that he'd
Speaker 2: done in his past. He didn't want to come to light.
Speaker 2: So I found out about it and I was just like,
Speaker 2: you're gonna tell me, you know what happened and who
Speaker 2: sent you? And he beat around the bush and he
Speaker 2: just said, I'm gonna tell you and he did tell us,
Speaker 2: and then there was just this connection to Athens George.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've never met anybody from Athens George ever,
Speaker 2: and I've been in Georgia twenty years. Never unless I
Speaker 2: never and to be in a room with four people
Speaker 2: from Athens at the same time. I was just like, okay,
Speaker 2: bad production, bad producing. Uh, but yeah, he did tell me,
Speaker 2: and I do one hundred percent believe them. I do
Speaker 2: because everything made sense, like your sister went to high
Speaker 2: school with her brother, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like you come in this room and you don't know
Speaker 2: anybody here, but ironically, your sister went to high school
Speaker 2: with Thadri's brother. You know, I'm like, okay. So it
Speaker 2: was like, Angela, I told you the truth.
Speaker 3: Hated How did you feel about that that was all discovered?
Speaker 2: I was disappointed because I was told, you know, get
Speaker 2: to know Phage or she's coming by, get to know her,
Speaker 2: and I kind of looked at her for information, like
Speaker 2: tell me how this worked. I'm new to realities. He
Speaker 2: could tell me the inrolls, tell me the inside the
Speaker 2: inside out, and you know, she was a source of information.
Speaker 2: So for that to happen, and I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a breach of trust. And you know, I
Speaker 2: didn't appreciate that at all. And it's like why the
Speaker 2: truth is so much better than fiction? Like why do
Speaker 2: you have to lie on my husband? Like let's just
Speaker 2: talk about the things that we've been through. And when
Speaker 2: me and Charles took this show, we were like, we're
Speaker 2: gonna talk about everything we've been through, all of it
Speaker 2: because we didn't want to be ambushed with anything, so
Speaker 2: let's let the world know. And for her to create
Speaker 2: a lie, it was just it was devious.
Speaker 3: Do you think fed deserves to have a peach.
Speaker 2: If she does that? No? No, if that's what you're doing.
Speaker 2: And I understand everybody has to work, right, we need
Speaker 2: a job, we need to earn a living for our
Speaker 2: kids and to continue our lifestyles. But really, I don't
Speaker 2: think that's what this is. But I'm so low on
Speaker 2: the total poll. I no saying that, and I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to get her fired. Maybe this is a learning curve,
Speaker 2: you know, because everybody is not impressed. And I think
Speaker 2: that was the misstep a lot of the ladies made,
Speaker 2: is that I'm supposed to be impressed with the social
Speaker 2: media following and who they are on the show, and
Speaker 2: I just wasn't impressed. Not to say anything bad about it,
Speaker 2: but that's just not though I don't aspire, do you
Speaker 2: know understand I have?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you survived your first reunion.
Speaker 1: Yes, without giving too much away, how was the season
Speaker 1: sixteen reunion for you?
Speaker 3: It's your first?
Speaker 2: It was good. I am still standing. I had to
Speaker 2: let everybody know who I was, and I feel like
Speaker 2: it's gonna be good. I feel like all of the
Speaker 2: ladies did an amazing job and you know, proving their
Speaker 2: point or locker up, you know. But we survived, and
Speaker 2: it's gonna be funny. You know, Charles shows up because
Speaker 2: he shows up for me, so he's gonna be a
Speaker 2: three yearion and we just we just it's actually a
Speaker 2: fun time, crazy enough that I can have a good
Speaker 2: time with Porsche and Phaedra and all of us in
Speaker 2: the same room at the same time and we are
Speaker 2: getting along.
Speaker 3: It worked out, okay. So come next season? Would you
Speaker 3: like to come back to next season?
Speaker 2: I haven't been home for next season yet.
Speaker 3: Well, I know some people.
Speaker 1: I'll be making costs myself. I have been known to
Speaker 1: do that, So you're you'll be back. Who in a
Speaker 1: perfect world? Who is Angela Oakley's dream cast that you
Speaker 1: would love to be surrounded by on the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: in Atlanta?
Speaker 2: In a perfect world?
Speaker 3: In a perfect world?
Speaker 2: Perfect world first and foremost, Yo, you.
Speaker 3: Know me is crazy.
Speaker 2: Funny, She's good. Nini Uh Kenya, Kenya, Kenya. We need Kenya,
Speaker 2: who saved me this season and who allowed me to
Speaker 2: continue on Cynthia, Cynthia, Cynthia.
Speaker 1: Porsche Porsche PSA gotta get my shtown girl Drew in there.
Speaker 2: True. I love me some Drew. And you know what
Speaker 2: I thought about this for just this comment this lady
Speaker 2: made on my page and pasties uh turking and pasties
Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan's.
Speaker 8: Claudia, she said twirking.
Speaker 2: She broke the internet on my eye. I cannot believe.
Speaker 2: Like her mouth is Claudia ring, Claudia bag her run through,
Speaker 2: like we need to play with Claudia. So I'll bring
Speaker 2: Claudia and so how ma you do I get? Okay?
Speaker 2: So I'll bring two more, okay, just because I need
Speaker 2: somebody to frown at and to make faces at.
Speaker 1: Bring Faedra okay, okay.
Speaker 2: And last but not least, who would be on my cast?
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna get a friend who would get who
Speaker 2: would be on my cast would be Charaine you Chiel,
Speaker 2: Charae you, oh my, I'm gonna bring Charae back. It's
Speaker 2: like we were have fun like I know. I know
Speaker 2: all the shade she's gonna throw.
Speaker 6: I know it.
Speaker 2: You know she's gonna throw shades. She's gonna get me
Speaker 2: a run for my money. But I like that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? I like that, you know long
Speaker 2: it's were respectful. Okay with that ball, I get it,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: You are good. You want a good show.
Speaker 2: A good show.
Speaker 4: Those are some power players you made.
Speaker 2: And as a friend, we're gonna bring shamia because you
Speaker 2: know means a friend. Okay, I like you.
Speaker 3: Okay, you do FRIENDO.
Speaker 2: Yeah, friend, that's.
Speaker 4: A good Okay.
Speaker 1: So before I let you go, it'll be remiss of me.
Speaker 1: I want to offer my condelensis. I know you recently
Speaker 1: launch your mother. I did, and as a mama's boy
Speaker 1: who lost his mother to five years ago, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Want you to know that.
Speaker 1: I I understand because yours is obviously fresh, and being
Speaker 1: a fan of yours and the.
Speaker 3: Show your mother so gorgeous did. Look you don't want
Speaker 3: to cry?
Speaker 2: Look no, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, no, no, But able to be remiss
Speaker 1: of me not to offer you my condolences. The only
Speaker 1: quest I'm going to ask, obviously, is was your mother
Speaker 1: and Charles. Were they able to make a miss before
Speaker 1: she passed?
Speaker 2: Well, when she passed, he was the one picking me
Speaker 2: up off the floor. But aside from that, he cooked
Speaker 2: the meal she came and ate and that was as
Speaker 2: good as I needed it to be between them, you know,
Speaker 2: if my mom was in the room, he recognized my mom,
Speaker 2: He loved my mom, he knew who she was to me,
Speaker 2: so they were really good. And again, just to see
Speaker 2: her on the show say I love him, you know,
Speaker 2: and for him to say that, I was like, thank you, mam.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because she knows. We all
Speaker 2: know who Charles is and we love Charles. And I'm
Speaker 2: happy that that happened. But for you you to understand
Speaker 2: the pain, I didn't know that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, listen my advice to you, and it's something.
Speaker 1: It's like this club of kids who lost their mom,
Speaker 1: especially when you lose them at an early age.
Speaker 3: You're a part of this club where you only are able.
Speaker 1: To understand that it is by far the worst pain
Speaker 1: you could go through because that's your mother. And one
Speaker 1: thing I just want to share with you is everyone's
Speaker 1: grief looks differently, and you take all the time you need.
Speaker 1: I have nine siblings. We all greeed very differently. We've
Speaker 1: lost our mother, and all ten of us were mother
Speaker 1: girls or mother boys.
Speaker 3: Like our mother was our world.
Speaker 1: And what I will say to you that helps me.
Speaker 1: My mother's been passed for like I think, like five years,
Speaker 1: five six years. I speak to her every single day,
Speaker 1: and I talked to her and and she speaks to me,
Speaker 1: and that helps me here to where the only things
Speaker 1: missing is the physicality of this woman.
Speaker 3: But my mother is right here now, She's around.
Speaker 1: And I talked to her in the car, me and
Speaker 1: her gossip because my mother would be like girl any.
Speaker 3: That was our relationship.
Speaker 1: So I still continue to speak to my mom that way,
Speaker 1: like girl, I'm about to go to Atlanta interview an ugly.
Speaker 3: Child, you know.
Speaker 1: So my advice to you is your mother's physical form
Speaker 1: may not be here in the present, but I want
Speaker 1: you to know that her spirit live on forever, and
Speaker 1: you have gained a permanent guardian angel who.
Speaker 9: Is going to watch over you and usher you into
Speaker 9: greatness and protect you because God has gained a friend.
Speaker 1: God has gained a friend, so he's able to assign
Speaker 1: your mother to do things for you on earth and.
Speaker 3: She has you so know that. I want to know that. Okay, Okay, no,
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 1: Tell your your daughter's good to your daughter's mine, tell
Speaker 1: her she gets married again.
Speaker 3: We need to let's get advanced.
Speaker 1: Notice daughter, honey, but I want you to know you
Speaker 1: officially are the m v P of the year and
Speaker 1: you and and I mean this, you are going to
Speaker 1: be the person from this day moving forward that I
Speaker 1: will tell my new reality starts to join my shows.
Speaker 3: Study Angela Oakly because she did it.
Speaker 2: You just want to keep me crying, know that.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, congratulations, my love.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're so welcome. You're welcome. Good job, good job.
Speaker 4: I didn't ever called the reunion like a.
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