WEBVTT - RHOA EXCLUSIVE: Angela Breaks Her Silence On Phaedra 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:08.720 I'm an executive. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.000 Producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.960 the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:20.280 The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.960 we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.560 The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.920 whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.080 Honey, I got my fan few girl. 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.760 Yes, they was cloud to me. 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:47.000 About I'm going through menopaul. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:58.640 Okay, because we're the same age. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:00.400 Oh my goodness, can get her. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.800 Give my it's in my verse upstairs because I need 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:06.640 to put this siress. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.080 Let's put the surress, would you. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:09.720 It's not my Please get. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.920 My past because that's a forty five year old man 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:12.960 both to menopause. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.320 Okay, and you're allegedly forty four. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.600 Relative. Well, you know the girls, I mean look, I'll 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.080 watched the show, and I mean. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.959 Fas said that you are the oldest looking. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.919 Yeah, I know. I kind of want Phaser to find 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:37.240 a man, a friend, or a mirror, you know, before 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.200 she comes at me about how I look like I 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.640 was insulted, like I could take that from anybody except her. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.760 Why because it's like, have you seen that? Has she 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.240 been past the mirror? Like where's the mirrors? I think, 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:54.600 fai where the mirror? I'm not calling her ugly, What 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:59.960 are you calling her? She was Okay, she looks her age, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.919 you know, and it's one way. It's her age. I think. 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.400 I think we just need to add a text. Whatever 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.160 my ages, we're gonna add teen. Okay, we're gonna add 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:08.600 teen to that. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.800 Forty four So you think Pagel looks fifty four whatever? 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.079 People think I look older. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.440 So I'll say this and this and range drops. Y'all 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.600 know I do not lie. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.120 I'm in person with this woman. You know I'm being honest. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:24.280 You don't look old to me. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:25.520 I didn't know. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.240 No, I'm being very honest with you because I will 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.120 tell you the too, like you don't look forty four, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.440 you don't, and you don't look older than forty four. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:33.440 I appreciate it. 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.960 I don't, So I'm being serious. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:43.160 I don't understand the read because yeah. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.680 Before this show was your age ever in question? 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:51.639 Never never? And all of the wives that I'm around, oh, 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.359 we all act look the same you know, no one 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.799 has ever questioned are you the same age as your husband? 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:03.480 Everyone knew, you know, say he got a young Yeah. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.160 To be asked, you know how old are you? I 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.000 was shocked. I'm like, damn, do I look like I 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.440 change my dermatologist? 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:20.360 Aside from that, yes, I'm okay, we'll get the idea pastor. Okay, 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:25.600 carlos Key as a journalist, Hey, Portia, I'm gonna get 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:26.280 the receipts. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:32.040 Okay, break drops now, Lizzie, can you please bring me 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:32.800 my readers to. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.280 Do the mind last night? 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:46.480 Okay, I'm looking at Angela's passport and I'm doing this 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.200 because I'm forty five years old. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.280 So my eyesight is, you know, not what it used 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.280 to be. But I can see clearly. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.800 Don't do that, you take it. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:06.960 I need read. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:10.400 No, I need my readers. 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:12.480 Wait, I'm a reader. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.880 Ship forty five. I got good. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.960 I'm not hear I see a little bit. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:24.960 I got you, honey, don't you worry boo. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.279 Please read it. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:28.000 Here. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.840 We are right here. 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.320 Because I'm a real journalist, so I want to make 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.160 sure please get the facts. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:38.760 Get the facts right. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:45.799 Okay, all right, Angela Dione Oakley, No, my government. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:53.719 Okay, all right, we'll cut it off. Cut off, cut off. Okay, 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:55.240 we got Angela Oakley. 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:02.000 Guys, I'm looking at it may or nineteen eighty one. 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:09.400 I cannot believe that question my age, like, god, you 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:09.920 look good. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.320 Look at my mannerisms as well. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.920 When you watch the show, do you when you when 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.880 you see yourself on TV, do you feel like. 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.280 Okay, maybe I can see what they're saying or are 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:21.159 you just like. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.000 I think what you know? 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.760 So I never wore makeup before, and so I think 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.160 it was playing around the makeup. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:28.680 I think the wigs. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.680 It was a lot of trial and there, so I 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.479 could see how I can look a little bit older, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.320 but not you know, to the extent that people are saying. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.279 Yeah you know, I'm like, wait a minute, no, you 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.599 look good. So listen. You are from Chicago, yes, I'm 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:41.320 from Detroit. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.200 Midwest is the best. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:45.840 Now. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:46.800 That's why I love you. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:51.720 I love Drew and I instantly felt when it came 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:58.600 to you, you came on this show being your authentic self. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:03.080 Flaws and all, You're gonna get everything from me because 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.320 I feel like, just being a fan of the show 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:05.960 for so. 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.640 Long, that did you watch all the season I. 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:09.680 Stopped when I think when. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.919 I'm just letting with the people, I. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:22.920 Think I said when you left. 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:31.200 But you know, when I got the job. 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:31.960 I had to catch up. 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:39.440 But you know show, I was definitely a fan of 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.240 the show, and you know, I just feel like I 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.520 relate more to that era, you know, because those women 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.240 were authentic. Not to say that these women are not, 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:51.839 it's just the way that they present themselves. I think 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:52.880 I aline with that more. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.880 Well, what is so interesting is so I worked on 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.080 a show from season one one through four, than six 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.440 through nine, season five, and your name came up and 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.159 casting a lot, And I know I did an interview 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.760 I said season three, and I think I got the 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:11.280 timeline wrong. I want to say, maybe around like season 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:16.360 six seven, your name came up as somebody we should 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.440 talk to. Were you approach during that time? Were you 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:25.240 even aware that we wanted you? Because sometimes you have 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:30.760 representatives and sometimes representatives speak for you and you may not. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:31.320 Be aware of it. 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.360 But were you're aware that we were sinking you out 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:34.520 for a long time? 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:35.520 You know what? 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.320 And I like season three, like keep that narrative more. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.560 Out there. But you know what, when they did approach me, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.160 it was actually my daughter's friend. His name is Sir Julian, 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.680 and he was like, you would be phenomenal for housewives 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.960 because all of the kids at Woodard Academy love Housewives. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.720 I think it coded barbado. And he was like, miss Angela, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.000 I want you to get on this show. So he 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.200 got me all the way to the exact truly, like 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.240 no casting company, no one. He got me to the 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.040 execs at the time. It was a lady by the 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.040 name of Chelsea There. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:13.440 Yeah, casting I got live way drops go ahead, y'ap. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.080 And so I spoke to Chelsea and you know what, 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.160 it wasn't you know, the timing wasn't right. And I 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:23.240 thank god that the timing did not work because had 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:24.600 I been. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.360 Casting there, oh my goodness, I would have been a wreck. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.480 Do you know what season that was? 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.880 That was twenty sixteen, So. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.680 Yeah, twenty sixteen. I was around, So I know what 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.520 I'm talking about. You weren't lying, Yeah. 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:38.120 It was true. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.200 They you know, they approached us, and Julian, you know, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.120 got us the interview and we interviewed, but the timing 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.960 and we interviewed again again, and the timing wasn't right. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:49.360 And I'm so grateful so. 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:49.959 Grateful for that. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.040 But when you look at the heyday, because we do 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:58.720 watch the show and everybody angelas like we would have 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.480 love to see Angela with Mini Leaks, Yeah, with Charae 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.880 with like the old kemp zosiac the ogs. 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.960 Do you feel like you fit more. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:15.679 With those girls than you do today with Portia Shamia 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.400 and you know Kelly Well, I. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.240 Say, with those girls, I would kind of have been 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.200 no shade to the current cast. You know, I love 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:30.000 all the ladies, but I would have been more aligned. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.959 I feel I feel like now it's a little bit 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.160 of I'm not gonna stoop down, you know what I mean. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.160 So I'm always gonna be up here and you have 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:39.200 to meet me at my level. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.079 I'm married, I have children. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.839 You know. Not to speak against those ladies, but again, 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.920 I think I fit in with the older cast because 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.079 the wigs were bad, you know, like you could get 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:53.719 in with good a bad wig and be okay, this 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.040 top model, like. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:55.959 What are we doing? 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:57.920 Like it's every day a fashion show. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.000 I feel like the older cast would a receive me. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.880 Much better, and yes, so. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.120 You they would have received me better because now it's 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.040 like gonna be a picked apart because I got a 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.600 bad wi and they would have never done me like 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:15.439 that again. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.079 Listen, I gotta be honest. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.920 With you, so honestly, I'm a former producer of the show. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.679 I am still a huge fan of the franchise. I 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.560 said this publicly that I did feel like there were 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:33.120 seasons that weren't excellent and I felt like this season 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.480 is back to its roots. And I'm gonna say this 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.600 also publicly. I've said on my podcast, I said on 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.359 my Monday Night Live show with Claudia and Jordan and Dustin. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.400 Ross, and I'll say to your face, you are the 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.200 reason for the season. You really are. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:49.760 You really are. 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:55.000 And as somebody who has been their season one day one, 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.440 there's not one motherfucker who recaps the show that knows 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.839 more than me or understands how the machine works, although 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:07.760 they try to, you know, discredit what I my expert opinion, 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:12.280 and that's find what I'm saying to you is, as somebody. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.079 Who was a part of the foundation of building that show, 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.160 right me and the rest of the amazing people at 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.040 the production company as well and the network too. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.520 You are exactly what the real house boss of Atlanta 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:32.560 was born to be. And you represent that and you 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:39.679 are so naturally funny and naturally gifted. 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:41.960 You remind me a lot. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.120 Of my old school girls who was able to read 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.640 somebody and not yell. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:49.360 And that's why I'm yelling. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.160 At but but my favorite read from you will always be. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:59.200 But you got those miles. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:02.000 Stretch my no, no no, and you set their cool, 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:06.720 calm and collected. And that's when I said, Angela Oakley 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:11.000 is bringing the Real Housewives of Atlanta back to its 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:15.280 glory days. And as a former executive producer, it would 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.400 be remiss of me not to say to you to 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.880 your face, I thank you, and I thank you for 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.720 your services and I want to see you continue doing 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:24.040 the show. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.679 You are magnificent. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:26.800 I appreciate it. 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.720 You really are, and and I hope you know it's 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:29.920 sincere what I'm saying to you. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.240 But to hear it from you like it means so 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.200 much because you always want to know, am I doing 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.400 this right? Am I doing a good job? No matter 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.600 what it is I'm doing, I want to know. My 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.600 love language is words of affirmation, like tell me I'm 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.880 doing it right, And to hear it from you it 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.480 feels good because a lot of people won't tell you 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.200 know you're killing it, or you fit in, or you're 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.440 doing what we need you to do. And so to 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.599 hear it from you, it means a line. I appreciate it, No, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:56.679 and I mean that. I mean that. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.880 I mean that I saw that you recently was at 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:03.120 the BT War and you were calling the audience with 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:04.040 your fan on her. 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:08.040 Oh my god, I said, I don't. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:15.120 Think it's not gonna leave. It's like the American Express. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:15.880 Don't leave home. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:20.960 Without it, because I know. And the thing is, you know, 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.679 people are like, it's air conditioning the building. Whenever I 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.959 get high, it's internal, right. I can't turn the air 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.920 conditioning off on my body. Yeah, so I have to 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.520 keep my fan, and I just naturally, you know, if 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.480 I feel a little something, I'm gonna turn on because 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.800 my wig is not gonna slip off. And that's the 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.079 second thing for having my fan. I want to make 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:41.679 sure my lace is lace. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:46.800 It's it's lace today, Lacy good. The Bob's Bobby Bob. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.240 It's not like you know what I'm saying, And ain't 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:57.760 like one. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.600 Of my favorites and ain't falling off. Nini is just 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.719 we gotta give it to Nini. But I also love 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.240 Claudia Clauda is amazing. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.960 You saw Nini at the BTD. What did she say 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.120 to you about you being on the show? 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.600 You know what? She just said, you know what, you 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.040 look amazing. And we just had a little one too. 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.920 She introduced me to her partner and we just did 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.960 a little vibe. We had a little vibe. It was 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.680 a nice little a nice little meeting. I know Nini, 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.560 you know, I've seen her before and I was a 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.280 part of her organization, Ladies of Success. So shout out 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:34.120 to Nini. Uh and to get the high five from her, 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:38.640 that means something, that means something, that's like girl, it's 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.360 enough one for everybody. So I appreciated that for me 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:42.560 from Nini. I did. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.160 Have you met Kim Zosiak before? 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.040 Never? But I heard I would love her. She's a 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.600 Taurus like I am. Oh yeah, so I heard I 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:53.760 would love her. Really that I've heard that a few times. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.560 Have you met, no And you know what? 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:57.640 I think I would love char. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:03.480 I see you and too, don't you think? 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.360 I think so? I do too? And I only say 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.040 that you know we shared well, my husband is her, 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:13.840 they used to day. So I feel like charae wasn't 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.840 one of the women who was looking for Charles after 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.720 they broke up. You know, some women still, you know, 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.840 hang around even after you got married. Charai just wasn't 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.080 one of those women. So I don't feel like Charai 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.480 would be, you know, a threat or anything like that. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.720 I feel like she would be a good and she's 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.040 a Capricorn. My siblings are capricorns. Like I feel like 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.400 Charai would be a good time. And I've heard that 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:38.760 a lot from a lot of different people. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.480 Oh cha is the best time I heard that? Amazing. 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.600 Did you find out being on the show that Charles 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.640 and Charae dated or did he tell you prior to 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:48.480 you joining the show? 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.680 No, so he didn't. We didn't go through our list 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.840 of exes, right like we didn't say our dated her. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.720 It never came up that way. I found out just 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.760 based on conversation from people back in twenty seventeen when 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.360 I initially cast it, because I believe Array was a 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.880 part of that cat was she was a part of 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.680 that cast, and so that's how it kind of I 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.320 found out that they used to date, and so I 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.280 didn't know the nature of their relationship. I didn't know 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.680 how serious it was, and I you know, I've come 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.120 to find out you know how serious it was or 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:27.320 lack thereof. So they dated, you know, twenty years ago. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.080 And y'all don't run into each other at events or 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:31.040 anything in Atlanta. 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.120 No, you won't find me out too much in Atlanta. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.760 I'm not I'm like Atlanta's hidden secret. I like to 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.600 stay in the house, or I'm on a plane, I'm 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.480 somewhere else. I don't like to sit around Atlanta that much. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.160 That's how a lot of people didn't know who I was. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.640 I was Atlanta's best kept secret. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:48.640 Well, baby, you are wide open. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:56.600 Yeah, did you listen? You're a beautiful woman from Chicago. 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.440 What was your dreams and aspirations? Was it you ever 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:04.199 see yourself being on a hit show and Bravo or 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.840 being a part of the entertainment industry or did. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.520 You have other dreams and goals being in Chicago. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.119 I did so. Coming from Chicago, I knew I always 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.240 wanted to be an entrepreneur. My background is in finance, 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.639 and I just knew I wanted to go where the 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.120 money was, no matter if that was behind the scenes, 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.159 not so much in front of the scenes, but definitely 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.159 behind the scenes. And be it that my husband is 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.800 public facing. I kind of felt like, I can, you know, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:34.119 manage his situation, and so I never had aspirations of 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.679 being in front of a camera, you know, outside of 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:41.639 the audition of twenty sixteen. But no, no. I remember 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:42.800 meeting with Larry. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:48.560 King and he was just like, not the legendary journalist 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:52.440 Larry Kingry Larry as love Larry King. 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.280 And he was just like, you know, he was just like, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:55.880 so what do you want to do? We met at 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.320 he loved this coffee shop in la He for a 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.800 frequent every day he would go there, and he was like, 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.240 so what do you want to do? Do you want 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.640 to be behind the scenes or in front of the camera. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.400 I was like, I care about the money. He said, 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.280 I never cared about the business, and I was like, well, 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.960 if I don't, He just was pretty much saying like 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.879 I care about being in front of the camera. I 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.680 don't care about the business. And I was like, well, 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.840 I care about the business, so I guess you know, 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.560 there's no room for me in front of the camera 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.320 because I care more about the business than being on 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.280 in front of the camera. And Larry King was like, yeah, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:30.160 he probably stay behind me. You know the camera, wow 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.240 to handle the business, and he never cared about the business. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.159 And you know what's so funny, he accumulated so much wealth. 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.520 Yes, he are a good team man. 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:40.880 Yeah, but that's the thing. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:45.240 The thing is this, you have to have a team 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.520 surrounding you who are good at business. 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.639 So, for example, I am a businessman, but my moster 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:52.280 from the camera. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:54.720 But I also know that there's no way in the 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.720 world I'm able to do both successfully. So I have 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.720 a great team around me who does great business. And 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:06.120 for me, I focus on creating stuff and doing all the. 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:06.760 Things I'm doing. 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:08.760 And that's why I relate to you so much with 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.479 the real estate because I want you to know I 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:16.560 understand what that feels like when you have a real 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.840 estate portfolio that. 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:19.760 Doesn't go well. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:26.439 Because in this LLC community that we live in, we 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:31.200 are sort of taught that in order to accumulate wealth, 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.880 you have to invest in real estate. And your transparency 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.320 of being, I believe was two million dollars a depth 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:41.399 to the fact that you were able in this reality 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:46.280 landscape where everybody is front and and buying stuff that 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:53.280 can't afford and houses and foreclosure and renting the designer 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:58.399 bags and things of that nature. Okay, the fact that 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.480 you were so transparent about that when it came to 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.120 your real estate portfolio, is it something you thought this. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:05.560 Would be good? 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.320 Because everybody around me is telling me that's how you 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.639 accumulate wealth in your sleep. 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.320 Exactly the reason, exactly the reason that I went so hard, 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:20.879 so fast, so far, and spent so much money, you know, 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:22.359 and that bothers me. 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:23.120 That kind of. 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:28.960 Makes me mad that I fumbled like that. However, if 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.919 I didn't have those properties, you would have never known me, 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.200 because I would have lived my private life. I would 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.760 have stayed behind the scenes doing what I normally do. 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.880 And I was kind of persuaded to buy those properties. 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:48.280 There was this investor, a portfolio investor overseas I won't 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:52.359 name the country, who wanted to invest in American real estate, 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.560 and so I was just like, Okay, I was introduced 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.000 through a realtor, and I was like, let's accumulate some property. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:04.080 Let's grab some properties. And I bought luxury properties so 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.360 with the intention of selling it to the portfolio investor 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.040 for a profit. Sure enough, when it was time to sell, 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.040 I had no portfolio investor, but I did have a 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.119