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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: I'm an executive.

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Speaker 1: Producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from

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Speaker 1: the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation,

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Speaker 1: The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode,

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Speaker 1: we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests,

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Speaker 1: whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

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Speaker 3: Honey, I got my fan few girl.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they was cloud to me.

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Speaker 3: About I'm going through menopaul.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because we're the same age.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, can get her.

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Speaker 2: Give my it's in my verse upstairs because I need

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Speaker 2: to put this siress.

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Speaker 4: Let's put the surress, would you.

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Speaker 2: It's not my Please get.

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Speaker 1: My past because that's a forty five year old man

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Speaker 1: both to menopause.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and you're allegedly forty four.

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Speaker 3: Relative. Well, you know the girls, I mean look, I'll

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Speaker 3: watched the show, and I mean.

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Speaker 1: Fas said that you are the oldest looking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I kind of want Phaser to find

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Speaker 2: a man, a friend, or a mirror, you know, before

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Speaker 2: she comes at me about how I look like I

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Speaker 2: was insulted, like I could take that from anybody except her.

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Speaker 2: Why because it's like, have you seen that? Has she

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Speaker 2: been past the mirror? Like where's the mirrors? I think,

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Speaker 2: fai where the mirror? I'm not calling her ugly, What

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Speaker 2: are you calling her? She was Okay, she looks her age,

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Speaker 2: you know, and it's one way. It's her age. I think.

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Speaker 2: I think we just need to add a text. Whatever

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Speaker 2: my ages, we're gonna add teen. Okay, we're gonna add

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Speaker 2: teen to that.

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Speaker 1: Forty four So you think Pagel looks fifty four whatever?

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Speaker 2: People think I look older.

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Speaker 3: So I'll say this and this and range drops. Y'all

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Speaker 3: know I do not lie.

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Speaker 1: I'm in person with this woman. You know I'm being honest.

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Speaker 1: You don't look old to me.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm being very honest with you because I will

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Speaker 1: tell you the too, like you don't look forty four,

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Speaker 1: you don't, and you don't look older than forty four.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I don't, So I'm being serious.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand the read because yeah.

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Speaker 3: Before this show was your age ever in question?

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Speaker 2: Never never? And all of the wives that I'm around, oh,

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Speaker 2: we all act look the same you know, no one

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Speaker 2: has ever questioned are you the same age as your husband?

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Speaker 5: Everyone knew, you know, say he got a young Yeah.

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Speaker 6: To be asked, you know how old are you? I

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Speaker 6: was shocked. I'm like, damn, do I look like I

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Speaker 6: change my dermatologist?

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Speaker 5: Aside from that, yes, I'm okay, we'll get the idea pastor. Okay,

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Speaker 5: carlos Key as a journalist, Hey, Portia, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 5: the receipts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, break drops now, Lizzie, can you please bring me

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Speaker 1: my readers to.

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Speaker 6: Do the mind last night?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking at Angela's passport and I'm doing this

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Speaker 1: because I'm forty five years old.

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Speaker 3: So my eyesight is, you know, not what it used

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Speaker 3: to be. But I can see clearly.

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Speaker 2: Don't do that, you take it.

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Speaker 4: I need read.

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Speaker 2: No, I need my readers.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I'm a reader.

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Speaker 2: Ship forty five. I got good.

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Speaker 6: I'm not hear I see a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I got you, honey, don't you worry boo.

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Speaker 6: Please read it.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 6: We are right here.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm a real journalist, so I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure please get the facts.

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Speaker 3: Get the facts right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Angela Dione Oakley, No, my government.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we'll cut it off. Cut off, cut off. Okay,

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Speaker 4: we got Angela Oakley.

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Speaker 1: Guys, I'm looking at it may or nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe that question my age, like, god, you

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Speaker 2: look good.

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Speaker 6: Look at my mannerisms as well.

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Speaker 1: When you watch the show, do you when you when

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Speaker 1: you see yourself on TV, do you feel like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I can see what they're saying or are

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Speaker 3: you just like.

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Speaker 6: I think what you know?

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Speaker 2: So I never wore makeup before, and so I think

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Speaker 2: it was playing around the makeup.

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Speaker 6: I think the wigs.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of trial and there, so I

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Speaker 2: could see how I can look a little bit older,

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Speaker 2: but not you know, to the extent that people are saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know, I'm like, wait a minute, no, you

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Speaker 3: look good. So listen. You are from Chicago, yes, I'm

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Speaker 3: from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Midwest is the best.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: That's why I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love Drew and I instantly felt when it came

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Speaker 1: to you, you came on this show being your authentic self.

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Speaker 2: Flaws and all, You're gonna get everything from me because

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Speaker 2: I feel like, just being a fan of the show

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Speaker 2: for so.

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Speaker 3: Long, that did you watch all the season I.

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Speaker 6: Stopped when I think when.

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Speaker 2: I'm just letting with the people, I.

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Speaker 3: Think I said when you left.

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Speaker 2: But you know, when I got the job.

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Speaker 6: I had to catch up.

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Speaker 2: But you know show, I was definitely a fan of

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Speaker 2: the show, and you know, I just feel like I

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Speaker 2: relate more to that era, you know, because those women

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Speaker 2: were authentic. Not to say that these women are not,

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Speaker 2: it's just the way that they present themselves. I think

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Speaker 2: I aline with that more.

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Speaker 1: Well, what is so interesting is so I worked on

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Speaker 1: a show from season one one through four, than six

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Speaker 1: through nine, season five, and your name came up and

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Speaker 1: casting a lot, And I know I did an interview

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Speaker 1: I said season three, and I think I got the

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Speaker 1: six seven, your name came up as somebody we should

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Speaker 1: talk to. Were you approach during that time? Were you

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Speaker 1: even aware that we wanted you? Because sometimes you have

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Speaker 1: representatives and sometimes representatives speak for you and you may not.

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Speaker 3: Be aware of it.

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Speaker 1: But were you're aware that we were sinking you out

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Speaker 1: for a long time?

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 6: And I like season three, like keep that narrative more.

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Speaker 2: Out there. But you know what, when they did approach me,

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Speaker 2: it was actually my daughter's friend. His name is Sir Julian,

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Speaker 2: and he was like, you would be phenomenal for housewives

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Speaker 2: because all of the kids at Woodard Academy love Housewives.

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Speaker 2: I think it coded barbado. And he was like, miss Angela,

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Speaker 2: I want you to get on this show. So he

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Speaker 2: got me all the way to the exact truly, like

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Speaker 2: no casting company, no one. He got me to the

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Speaker 2: execs at the time. It was a lady by the

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Speaker 2: name of Chelsea There.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, casting I got live way drops go ahead, y'ap.

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Speaker 2: And so I spoke to Chelsea and you know what,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't you know, the timing wasn't right. And I

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Speaker 2: thank god that the timing did not work because had

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Speaker 2: I been.

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Speaker 6: Casting there, oh my goodness, I would have been a wreck.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what season that was?

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Speaker 6: That was twenty sixteen, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty sixteen. I was around, So I know what

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about. You weren't lying, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It was true.

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Speaker 2: They you know, they approached us, and Julian, you know,

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Speaker 2: got us the interview and we interviewed, but the timing

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Speaker 2: and we interviewed again again, and the timing wasn't right.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful so.

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Speaker 6: Grateful for that.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at the heyday, because we do

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Speaker 1: watch the show and everybody angelas like we would have

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Speaker 1: love to see Angela with Mini Leaks, Yeah, with Charae

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Speaker 1: with like the old kemp zosiac the ogs.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you fit more.

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Speaker 1: With those girls than you do today with Portia Shamia

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Speaker 1: and you know Kelly Well, I.

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Speaker 2: Say, with those girls, I would kind of have been

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Speaker 2: no shade to the current cast. You know, I love

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Speaker 2: all the ladies, but I would have been more aligned.

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Speaker 2: I feel I feel like now it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of I'm not gonna stoop down, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So I'm always gonna be up here and you have

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Speaker 2: to meet me at my level.

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Speaker 6: I'm married, I have children.

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Speaker 2: You know. Not to speak against those ladies, but again,

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Speaker 2: I think I fit in with the older cast because

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Speaker 2: the wigs were bad, you know, like you could get

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Speaker 4: What are we doing?

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Speaker 6: Like it's every day a fashion show.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the older cast would a receive me.

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Speaker 6: Much better, and yes, so.

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Speaker 2: You they would have received me better because now it's

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Speaker 2: like gonna be a picked apart because I got a

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Speaker 2: that again.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 1: With you, so honestly, I'm a former producer of the show.

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Speaker 1: I am still a huge fan of the franchise. I

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Speaker 1: said this publicly that I did feel like there were

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Speaker 1: seasons that weren't excellent and I felt like this season

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Speaker 1: is back to its roots. And I'm gonna say this

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Speaker 1: also publicly. I've said on my podcast, I said on

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Speaker 1: my Monday Night Live show with Claudia and Jordan and Dustin.

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Speaker 3: Ross, and I'll say to your face, you are the

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Speaker 3: reason for the season. You really are.

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Speaker 4: You really are.

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Speaker 1: And as somebody who has been their season one day one,

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Speaker 1: there's not one motherfucker who recaps the show that knows

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Speaker 1: more than me or understands how the machine works, although

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Speaker 1: they try to, you know, discredit what I my expert opinion,

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Speaker 1: and that's find what I'm saying to you is, as somebody.

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Speaker 3: Who was a part of the foundation of building that show,

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Speaker 3: right me and the rest of the amazing people at

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Speaker 3: the production company as well and the network too.

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Speaker 1: You are exactly what the real house boss of Atlanta

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Speaker 1: was born to be. And you represent that and you

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Speaker 1: are so naturally funny and naturally gifted.

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Speaker 3: You remind me a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of my old school girls who was able to read

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Speaker 1: somebody and not yell.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I'm yelling.

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Speaker 1: At but but my favorite read from you will always be.

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Speaker 4: But you got those miles.

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Speaker 1: Stretch my no, no no, and you set their cool,

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Speaker 1: calm and collected. And that's when I said, Angela Oakley

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Speaker 1: is bringing the Real Housewives of Atlanta back to its

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Speaker 1: glory days. And as a former executive producer, it would

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Speaker 1: be remiss of me not to say to you to

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Speaker 1: your face, I thank you, and I thank you for

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Speaker 1: your services and I want to see you continue doing

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: No, you won't find me out too much in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Well, baby, you are wide open.

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Speaker 3: And you know what's so funny, he accumulated so much wealth.

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Speaker 2: And I was kind of persuaded to buy those properties.

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Speaker 2: There was this investor, a portfolio investor overseas I won't

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: No? Fore clothes, No, not all of them. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: No, it's expensive.

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Speaker 2: But long and behold. Yeah, I mean I got to

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 1: And this is something that a lot of people who

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Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted you to know that.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's people like me and a lot of

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Speaker 3: So I don't want you to feel ashamed about that. Anything.

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00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: Okay, good, because look at the blessing that you have now.

447
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: And my advice to everybody watching this who are trying

448
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: to like invest in real estate, if you don't have

449
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: the love for it, the patience for it, or the

450
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: education for it, don't do it. I would rather you,

451
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: first of all, disclaimer, do what you want to do.

452
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: I would rather you put that money into a stock portfolio.

453
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: I would say stock for sure, right, and the bank

454
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: is even safer, like, don't trudge it until you know

455
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: a safe, sound investment from reputable people, because I got

456
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: my advice from people that nobody should trust.

457
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want you to know you're not along

458
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: with that. Okay, thank you.

459
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about your husband, Charles. You

460
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: have a lot of fans and they're called fangelus.

461
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.

462
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: May be the president of cy of it.

463
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: I love him.

464
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: I'm a fangela. There's a lot of people.

465
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: Who love you and watch the show, and they feel

466
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: like Charles does not love you the way that you

467
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: love him. They feel like your husband is very dismissive

468
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: of you. He did not seem to care that you

469
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: were out of the country for anniversary. You guys do

470
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: dual interviews together. They feel like he's very dismissive of you,

471
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: and your fans are concerned that you are in a

472
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: marriage that's one sided and they want you to run.

473
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: I see I see the fans, and it's funny because

474
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: you know, when I took the show, was like, Oh,

475
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 2: everybody knows Charles. We're gonna be good. Everybody knows Charles

476
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: from his NBA playing days. They know his attitude, they

477
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: know who he is. And I was reading the comments

478
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 2: on Twitter one day and they were like, girl, we

479
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: don't know your husband. It was like, straight man, they

480
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: know your.

481
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 4: Basketball.

482
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: And I read that comment. I was like, girl, you

483
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 2: in danger because nobody is.

484
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: God, I understand my husband.

485
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: I just was like, oh, this is go one or

486
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: two ways, and both of them are bad. First of all,

487
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: First of all, Charles, what do you know about the

488
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: husbands that a lot of people don't know about the

489
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: husbands on this show? Is there anything you can say?

490
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: They don't get paid.

491
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 4: That's not a secret.

492
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: Know Andy has said that, it's widely known, but husbands,

493
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: all these housewives don't get paid.

494
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 3: And that's my way.

495
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go deeper, but go ahead.

496
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 4: Oh they don't get paid.

497
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 2: But that's that.

498
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: And they feel like this is your thing, and husbands.

499
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: Have to take so much of their time to do it.

500
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: But that's why a lot of housewives give their husbands

501
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: ten percent of their first.

502
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: Of all, I gotta be getting paid. We're not gonna

503
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: go the.

504
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: Next season you did, but no.

505
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: So Charles is one of the few husbands that I

506
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: know that everywhere he shows up he gets paid because

507
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: that's his brand. That's how he earns his money. He

508
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 2: did that. They're years of work, or the twenty years

509
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: of work to get to a place to where he

510
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: can just show up and get paid. So a lot

511
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: of what you see is me sitting there like, oh god,

512
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: I hope you don't remember he's not getting paid. Oh

513
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 2: I don't remember he's not getting paid because he's like,

514
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: what am I doing? I'm only doing this for you.

515
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: And when I asked him, you know, in the interview,

516
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: like they're gonna think you don't love me, he's looking

517
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: at me like girl. I wouldn't have done that at home.

518
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been like, Charles, do you love me?

519
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: You know? So a little bit of that was me

520
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: putting on because I know my husband, and that's why

521
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: I said I couldn't have done this in twenty seventeen

522
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: or twenty sixteen, I would have believed my husband didn't

523
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: love me. But I know that man loves me. There's

524
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: nothing about what he's done or is doing present day

525
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: that would make me feel he doesn't love me now,

526
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: him being Charles and not picking up the phone while

527
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: he's here watching the kids while I'm working on a

528
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: casture on the first ring, I'm like, really, y'all this,

529
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: how y'all Charles a sixty year old man who did

530
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: not answer the phone, like.

531
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

532
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is foreign about that? You know? And

533
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: then when he did answer in the scene, you see

534
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: my daughter like hey mommy, Like he's home with the kids,

535
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: Like he didn't get any credit for that, and no shade,

536
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: you know, I can't throw shade at the show or

537
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: anything like that. But it's like he just got roked in.

538
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: But he is there in some scenes, he's like the

539
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: only man and he's like why am I here?

540
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 6: You know?

541
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: But he is truly doing that for me and him

542
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: and his grumpiness that's who he is now. If it

543
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: means he doesn't love me, that's not the case. My

544
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: husband loves me. And furthermore, why does the man get

545
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: so much credit? Why would I be with the man

546
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: who didn't love me? Like I'm self made, have my

547
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: own money. I met him as being one of his neighbors,

548
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: and I'm confident the second time. Yeah, So I'm confident

549
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: who I am. So I'm not gonna be with anyone because,

550
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: oh my god, I want this man to love me.

551
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: No respect is there, and none of this is disrespect.

552
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: We don't tolerate disrespect to one another, like we don't curse.

553
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: There's no name calling. It's I know my husband and

554
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: the world don't know my husband. So I had to

555
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: take that with a grain of salt, especially when the

556
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: person said, we don't know your husband.

557
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, So when it comes to Charles THEO, what

558
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: is one thing about him that you wish the world

559
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: could see that we're not seeing.

560
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: On the show, And it could have been shown like

561
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: just his fathering, his nurturing, Like I come home, I

562
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: met with a meal every day. He cooks for you

563
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: every day every day, like I get mad with I'm

564
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: like the man in that aspect, I'm like, what a wood?

565
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: You know what you mean? All day? Ain't nothing on

566
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: the stone, No he cooks for me, and he's he

567
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: understands me. He's patient, patient with me, and he gives

568
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: me what I need. And so I know people are

569
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: looking for this, this outwardly affectionate person. He's just not that,

570
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: But that doesn't introduce his love for me, you know,

571
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: and how he shows it for me. And I love

572
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: my husband. He loves me too. He loves me too.

573
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: I have my family.

574
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: I said it on my YouTube show, My Mother and

575
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: I Live, I said, Charles Oakley reminds.

576
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: Me of my father.

577
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: Everybody says that.

578
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: So my father was born in nineteen forty nine, he's

579
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: seventy six. He is an old school black man from Detroit, Michigan,

580
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: and my father.

581
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: Just doesn't show affection.

582
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: So growing up, I never thought my father loved me

583
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: because he never said it. And years later I spoke

584
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: to him and he said.

585
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: My Papa, Taul's crazy, motherfucker.

586
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: I thought you all this shit and you needed this,

587
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: and you.

588
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: Know, my father takes credit everything. Look at you now, motherfucker.

589
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: That's me.

590
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: That's it, okay.

591
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: So I understood my father's love language was different, and

592
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: the way my father.

593
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: Loved about my mother wasn't what you see in the movies.

594
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: So when I look at Charles, I always said, look,

595
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: I understand that maybe this this younger generation may not

596
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: understand how an old school black man loves up on

597
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: his wife. And I never thought he was dismissive to you.

598
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: I promise I never thought that. And the one thing

599
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: that I always thought was this man is this legendary

600
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: NBA player, and.

601
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 3: I want to have a real conversation with you.

602
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that when it comes to

603
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: a man of that status to be okay with his

604
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: wife having her turn at this, that sometimes that's not

605
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: the case. Because one thing I will say to you,

606
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: I have spoken to a lot of wives of former

607
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: sports athletes players right who's who made the decision of

608
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: their wife not joining reality television because they wanted to

609
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: keep their wife in the house and they knew that

610
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: I do not want to share the spotlight with her.

611
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: So I know for a fact that the fact that

612
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: you're on the show is because your husband believes in

613
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: you and he wants this for you.

614
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: Because so many girls, even when I.

615
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: Was on Hospital in Atlanta and I spent one season,

616
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: season nine contacting, I spoke to seventy five women and

617
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: a lot of them said to me, I want to

618
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: do it, but my husband won't let me. He won't

619
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: let me, and I know that there have to be

620
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: a conversation with you and Charles about you joining the show.

621
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: What made him say I'm okay.

622
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: With this, and I appreciate you giving him that, giving

623
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: him credit for that. Just wanting to dim his light,

624
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: if you will, and just say go. Even when we're

625
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: out now and we're walking or whatever, he'll push me

626
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: forward like there she go, y'all, there she go, Like

627
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: he's my biggest fan. Aside from that, in twenty seventeen,

628
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: we were not ready and he was more reluctant than

629
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: he was just like no, And now I know why

630
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: because he was doing what he probably wanted to do.

631
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: And now he's just like, you know what, it is,

632
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: your turn, you know, do what you want to do.

633
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: I got your back, Like I am a good wife.

634
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: And when I tell you a good wife, not so much.

635
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit back and let you do what you

636
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: want to do. Not that kind of wife. But I'm

637
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 2: gonna build you up, I'm gonna support you. I'm just

638
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: I'm just there, you know, I'm a good wife, good mom,

639
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: all of that, and to go back to your father.

640
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: As far as affection, Now, if you see Charles with

641
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: the kids, yeah, it's like night like this is his world.

642
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: So they get all of that. And I believe this

643
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: man in n born in nineteen sixty two, sixty three, whatever,

644
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: he has a certain amount of affection that he can

645
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: provide or that he gives, and he gives it to

646
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: me in the way that I need it, and he

647
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: gives it to my kids in the way that they

648
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: need it. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna stand beside

649
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: him because I know the world don't get to see that.

650
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: And I hate that they didn't show that because there

651
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: was plenty of that to be seen. But you know,

652
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: and back to he's you know, he didn't get paid.

653
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: All of this is him doing this for me. Him

654
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: showing up in a room full of women he do

655
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: not know who's starting rumors or who's just participating in

656
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: rumors about him, says a lot. And he is so

657
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: no nonsense For him to sit there patiently knowing he

658
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: ready to cost everybody. I appreciate, you know, it's only

659
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: because of his love for me. So we did have

660
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: the conversation when we got the show this year. We

661
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: met with everyone and he's just like, I just hope

662
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: you do her right. And he told that to production.

663
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: I could just do her right, you know, because I

664
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 2: know how it could be a lot of BS involved.

665
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: Just make sure she's done right. And anytime he may

666
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: have felt excuse me, I wasn't done right, you would

667
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: make that known too. So we did have that conversation

668
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: and it landed us here. So we're on the same

669
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: page and he's showing up.

670
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: No, he shows up, and that means more than anything.

671
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: So one of the things that I do want to

672
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: talk to you about your transparency on the show because

673
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: what I do feel is missing in the landscape of

674
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: reality television is a lot of people joined for the

675
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: wrong reasons.

676
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: They joined the show for.

677
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: Instant faith, and that's okay, that's fine, but there is

678
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: an exchange because it's a reality show. So the exchange

679
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: in your design for fame or money is to showcase

680
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: your reality. Just like a singer can make money off

681
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: of being famous and all of those things if he

682
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: or she doesn't open the mouth to sing a song.

683
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: So I look at it that way when it comes

684
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: to reality. You have been very transparent about your reality.

685
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: You were very honest about Charles' infidelity, and you talk

686
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: about maybe it didn't work out for you guys in

687
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen because he was doing his own thing, right.

688
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: What I want to talk to you about is his infidelity.

689
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: How did that impact you when you discovered it?

690
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: You know, So Charles we got married. I think he

691
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: was fifty three and I think he was the early fifties,

692
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: but he had never been married, and so I was

693
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: just like, I know, he waited all his life for me,

694
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: and I was very delusional about out what was happening

695
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: in regards to growing up. I thought, you know, you

696
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: get married, there's this white picket fence in this house,

697
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: and you live happily ever after, not really breaking down

698
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: the individual you're marrying or the individual you have to

699
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 2: become to be married. And so when I found out,

700
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: of course, i was I'm like, wait a minute, you wait,

701
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: all these just first of all, people DM me. Uh

702
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: when we were dating. Yeah, someone DM me, And I

703
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: was just like and uh, And so I said, and

704
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: if you see and you know on the show, I'm like,

705
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: my dms are flooded. Well that's where that came from.

706
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: Someone DM me. A few people DM me like, hey,

707
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: oh he's married. I didn't know this when we first

708
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: got married. And uh, someone actually did that too when

709
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: we were dating, and I'm like, wait a minute, like

710
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: what's going on. You're you at this big age and

711
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: you don't understand what marriage is?

712
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: Did you ever come from him with those texts?

713
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: And he would deny it.

714
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he was just like no, you know,

715
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: but I was crushed, and I'm like, okay, I get

716
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: who you are, Like I'm sure Carlo dms are popping,

717
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: but you know, we can't act like, you know, have

718
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: options in these streams. You know what I mean, don't.

719
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: Interview a child.

720
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying is you get what I'm saying, Like,

721
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: we're not gonna act like this man don't got outs.

722
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: So I had to say that into.

723
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: Consideration, like Okay, you know, he's been single all these years.

724
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 4: I love you so much, he's been single all these years.

725
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: So he gotta let the you know, the party know

726
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: like it's a new So I'm gonna give you grace

727
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: for that. Let these women know because he was single,

728
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: who's single for fifty something? So he had to let

729
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: everybody know I was just like, in my mind, I'm

730
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: thinking like, okay, I have zero tolerance for this, but

731
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: let's just give him a little grace a month to

732
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: let everybody know, you know, like, hey, i'm married, now,

733
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm married, now I'm danying, I'm seeing someone, whatever the

734
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: timeframe was in the relationship, and so I felt like

735
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 2: he was taking too long let everybody know. I felt

736
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: like he was taken too long. And so that was

737
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: the beginning of our marriage twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen.

738
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: Then Madison squad Garden happened, and I was just it

739
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: was just like, okay, that was a lot, and so

740
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 2: that continued him just not fully committing to our marriage.

741
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: And so I was devastated because I'm newly married. I

742
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: just had a baby, so I'm dealing with postpartum and

743
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm learning all this information like what you marry me,

744
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: so this means you're with me? And I will say this.

745
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: A lot of the women that he dated didn't care,

746
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: you know, so here I come like, no, we clean

747
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: it all this out. Because he's used to women who

748
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: didn't really care, and so it was foreign to him

749
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 2: to have someone say no, this is what marriage looks

750
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: like to me, and this is what a relationship with

751
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: me looks like. So we had clean this up. This

752
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: is not it. And again the Madison Square Garden happened.

753
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: He was doing good and then he just.

754
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: And how long were you guys separated after that institute?

755
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't that long. It was probably about three or

756
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: four months. It wasn't that long. It w and we

757
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: lived separately cause I'm like, this is a lot. But

758
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: before the separation, I was just like, Okay, am I

759
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: gonna stick hang in here? You know, am I gonna

760
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: deal with this? It's just too much. It was too

761
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: much because I didn't feel like I was getting the

762
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: support or the the action I needed from him. And

763
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: so he started to make strides and we got in

764
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: therapy because he was willing to fight for it, and

765
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: he was just like, you know what, I'm not about

766
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: to lose my family. I had a new baby, and

767
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: you know it took him sometimes to clean out that

768
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: closet and did I did.

769
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: There's a lot of women who are watching this.

770
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: What advice would you give married women who have experienced

771
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: their husband cheating on them during the marriage and finding

772
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: a place within your heart for forgiveness, to take him

773
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: back and to really work together on the second win

774
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 1: of your matrimony.

775
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: First of all, it has to be some level of respect, right,

776
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: this was nothing. He was blatantly Like he calls me

777
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: the FBI because I was looking for like, he wasn't

778
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: forward cheating, Like you know what I mean? Do you

779
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? He wasn't being disrespectful.

780
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: There is a thing called disrespectful cheating And for the

781
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: audience to know, cause you don't know, is when you

782
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: are just blatantly out here taking girls to the same

783
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: spot to take your why and then like you know,

784
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: just being very open about it, disrespectful.

785
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: So he was definitely convert and it will take a

786
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: level of investigation for me to find out because you know,

787
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: I wanted to know. I did go through his phone,

788
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: you know, that's how I found out. And you know,

789
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: in addition to women DM and me. So he calls

790
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: me the FBI because I want to know what's going on.

791
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: But if the respect isn't there, I wouldn't And you know,

792
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: cheating is disrespectful. It is disrespectful to your vowels, it's

793
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: disrespectful to your relationship. So I'm not going to say

794
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't disrespected, because I was. But I will say,

795
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: if your husband is really trying to and it's not

796
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: hard to stop, right, it's not hard to stop your

797
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: wife like this is not anything you know hard? Uh.

798
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: With Charles, he was willing to make those steps, and

799
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: again he did the work. You know, he went to

800
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 2: therapy as a man who's never stepped foot in therapy.

801
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: He was like, is this what it takes for me

802
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: to save my family? And why do I do these things?

803
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: Oh?

804
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: I was a professional basketball player. These women just it

805
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: was easy, you know, it was just easy. Like he's

806
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: jet setting with some of the biggest names that we know,

807
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: so it's easy. And so for him, he was just

808
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: he didn't see anything wrong with it until I came along.

809
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: So I would say to those women, if your husband

810
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: is willing to make the strides to make it work,

811
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: then hang in there. But if it's abusive, disrespectful, all

812
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: of those things, by no means, by no means, by

813
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: no means.

814
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: Some of just dawned to me. Is that the reason

815
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: why when portion made the inappropriate joke.

816
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: About fucking your husband, did that trigger something in you?

817
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Just based on what you had to deal with with

818
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: not only women DM and you are you were dating,

819
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: not only this happened when you're married to him, knowing

820
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 1: that within your husband experience there are beautiful women who

821
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: don't mind being a side chick. They wear it on

822
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: their chest, and you having to separate from him from

823
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: three to four months because of this. When you heard that,

824
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: did that trigger the past trauma that you had to

825
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: experience in terms of like I am.

826
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 3: Reminded of what I had to recover from.

827
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: You know what a lot of people think. You know,

828
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: I ran in the DMS like, oh, if Portia can

829
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: sleep with him, then he ain't. And you you know,

830
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 2: why are you so can that? A woman said that,

831
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: you know, said that about your husband. I wasn't if

832
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: it was twenty seventeen, yeah, but be it that we

833
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: did the work and I really really trust my husband.

834
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: The issue was pretty It wasn't really Charles. It was

835
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: the disrespect to me as his wife or as a

836
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: woman on this show with you. That's where the disrespect.

837
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: I ain't even let the disrespect get to Charles. You're

838
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: disrespecting me. First of all, we're gonna acknowledge me. That's

839
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: where I got triggered. She could have said everything she

840
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: wanted to say about Charles, but you're talking about my husband,

841
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: So first you have to deal with me, and you're

842
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: doing it. You're saying it an earshot of me, you know.

843
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: So that's where the disrespect was. And it didn't take

844
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: me to any trauma or anything like oh he cheated.

845
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, this is woman and woman, this

846
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: is grown woman stuff. You're disrespecting me, Angela, you know

847
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I'm here as a woman trying

848
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: to do my job just like you are. And I

849
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a threat that she would

850
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: have acted on or tried to, and it would have

851
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 2: been like nothing she's ever seen before if she did,

852
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because I'm just not that

853
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: type of girl you can play with like that. You know,

854
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: you can't disrespect me till my face about my husband

855
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: and think you're going to act on that. That's just

856
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: not the games I played. But I don't even think

857
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: people see that the disrespect was aimed at me.

858
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to cause again, you talked about it before

859
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: in this conversation, especially on my podcast. I like to

860
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: go deeper than the surface stuff. So again, that question

861
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: came to me just based on your experience. Because one

862
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: of those things like this, if I overcame something and

863
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: I hear something within earshot.

864
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: That's not being said to my face, but I'm hearing it.

865
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: All of these memories and stuff that I healed from

866
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: is now coming back to the forefront. So I just

867
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: want to know if it was something to where it was,

868
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: like I dealt with this situation before. I don't know

869
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: you that well, I'm getting to know you. You're saying

870
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: it behind my back. There are people who say you

871
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: steal people's husbands, So I want to know, like, well,

872
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: all of those things coming.

873
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: To your it was coming to me in a place

874
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: of disrespect. It wasn't a place it wasn't a place

875
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: of fear. Do you see what I'm saying, Like I

876
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: found disrespected?

877
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: Did you feel for did you ever think for a

878
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: second that Porsche was capable of acting out on that comment?

879
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: Well, I thought she was capable of what could she

880
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 2: do it? No, because that goes back to the work

881
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: me and my husband is done. You see what I'm saying.

882
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope that's I get.

883
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: It you okay, because I want to I want to

884
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: clear the air for the work. It was never about

885
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: Porsche being capable of acting out on the threat successfully

886
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: because you and your husband did the work, and regardless

887
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: if Porschell wanted to or not, your issue was never

888
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: could she be successful in doing that to Charles? Because

889
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: it could be Porsche, it could be Princess, it could

890
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: be polar it could be any woman. But it has

891
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Porsche per se. I know my

892
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: husband and I know that the work we've done eradicates

893
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: him from even wanting to do that.

894
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: It was presented to him. You were more focused on

895
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 3: this woman.

896
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: It's saying something about my husband, and she's disrespecting me,

897
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: and she's doing it behind my back, and she's doing

898
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: it laughing and joking with other women, two who are married,

899
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: and they're all thinking this a joke, and they're playing

900
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: in my face.

901
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: That's where what got it. The disrespect was there from

902
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: the beginning, got it. So as far as Charles, if

903
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: it was in portion like you said, it could be polite.

904
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 2: Not I don't want to say, because that is every day.

905
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: There are women now who would plea with my husband.

906
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That threat is never going

907
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: to be gone, no matter who says it, you know

908
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: what I mean. So the work has to be with Charles,

909
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: because I can't block all of that no matter who

910
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: says it. So the work has to be with my husband.

911
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 2: But as far as we were concerned, you're disrespecting me,

912
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Me, Angela right here on

913
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: this show with you. And that's where it became an

914
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: issue because you can say whatever you want. And again,

915
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: people want to throw you off your game, especially if

916
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 2: you're seen as a threat, or you're coming on strong,

917
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: or you you're doing good at what you do. People

918
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: want to throw you on your you know, throw you

919
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: off your game. And that isn't gonna happen with me.

920
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 2: I wanted to first establish boundaries with respect, and you're

921
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: being Hella disrespectful to me. And then Charles comes and

922
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: all that, my kids, all that comes after that, But

923
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: first you gotta deal with me.

924
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: In your heart of hearts, do you like Porscha?

925
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: You know what I do? I mean, in my heart

926
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: of hearts, I think she's a fun girl, you know,

927
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: all of the things. But do I like that character

928
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: trait of a woman who can say that? Who could

929
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 2: even say that? No, I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't surround

930
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: myself with that with someone who would say that, So

931
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: you hear what I'm saying. So No, I don't align

932
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: with that at all at all. But as far as

933
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: the flip side, I think she's a fun girl and

934
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: that's bigger than just Porsche. I don't want to talk

935
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 2: about Porsch any woman who can just say that I

936
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: don't align with Like, I take my vowels and my

937
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: marriage seriously and as well as I take my respect

938
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: for me seriously.

939
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 1: Is it going to be hard for you and Porsche

940
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: to ever develop a real friendship because of what she said.

941
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: About She's apologized and she's apologized to him. I think

942
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where it's just like I

943
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: see you, you know what I mean, Like I see you,

944
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: and that's just gonna always be there. And that's because

945
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: that's the space you created. That's not anything I did.

946
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: That's the space you created. So no, I feel like

947
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: you just know, you know, I see you, I see you.

948
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: And that's if she never acted on it or had

949
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: any intentions on acting on it, it's just we just

950
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: gotta stop. At the point of you said it, you

951
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: know that means something just saying it.

952
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: You know, would you ever invite Porsche to your home?

953
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: I did, well, you know, like around Charles.

954
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: You know what, I trust Charles. It's nothing she can

955
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: do to Charles right so, and to bye anyone into

956
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: my home. We have to have a relationship. I'm not

957
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: just gonna say, oh, let's let's see if Portia could

958
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: fuck Charles. You know, That's not what I'm trying to

959
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: do with any woman, a woman who says that. And

960
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Porsche. She has a beautiful home. She

961
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: doesn't probably need a reason to come to my house.

962
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: But as far as where we are right now, I

963
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: think it's still steps that need to be taken.

964
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: I do want to get your thoughts on brit When

965
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Kenya did the poster boards of revealing you know, BRIT's

966
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: alleged past, bring me in a comment that she was

967
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: under investigation per her you know, for her insurance license.

968
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: You instantly was like, that doesn't make any sense to me,

969
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: and she was really aggressive. But when it came to

970
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: her defending her statement, and you, again, cool, calm and collected,

971
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: said I know that life, I know that world, and

972
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't buy it is that the moment that you

973
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: started to question who brit Edie really is in terms

974
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: of her character.

975
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: I think the moment I started to question her character

976
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: was we were all speaking with her after she made

977
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: the gun threat and we were asking Meia's house. I

978
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw the you did see we

979
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: were as Samia's house and we had a moment with

980
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: her after she made the gun threat to Kenya and

981
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: we were like, girl, you did too much, Like why

982
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: would you even say that? She was very in that moment.

983
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: She was very unapologetic. It was also it was just

984
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: almost like entitled, you know. It was just almost like

985
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: I made a mistake whatever, you know, And I just

986
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: felt like, girl, just have some empathy, you know. And

987
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: I realized then that, okay, she lacks accountability and whatever

988
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: she does. And you know, I've been a mom a

989
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: long time, so I can see, you know, certain qualities

990
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: and in her it was just she's never gonna hold

991
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: herself accountable. And that's not saying anything bad about her.

992
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, a character flaw that she had

993
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: and I was able to pick up on it.

994
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: Were you surprised that Britain I show up at the reunion.

995
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: Oh, of course, of course. I was definitely surprised because

996
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: she had been on social media like I can't wait

997
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: to see you guys at the reunion, you know, and

998
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: I felt like there was a lot she needed to

999
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: answer to. You know, she said a lot, She said

1000
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: a lot you know, about me, about my husband, and

1001
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: I feel like she needed to answer to that. So

1002
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: for her to, you know, not come to the reunion,

1003
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: I didn't like that. I want her to be there.

1004
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: I really want her to be there, and she wasn't,

1005
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 2: But I feel like she should have, you know, been there.

1006
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: What do you think my everything going on with her

1007
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: right now that she's doing.

1008
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: I mean, I think she feels like she's right, and

1009
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: again she she has a case, you know, she feels

1010
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: that way. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at what

1011
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: she's doing. And I hate it had to happen that

1012
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: way for her, But I'm not surprised she took that

1013
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: route at all.

1014
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: Why aren't you surprised?

1015
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: Because it keeps the attention on her, you know what

1016
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not deducing anything she's experienced or her feelings,

1017
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: because that's big with her. You don't understand how I feel. No,

1018
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm not deducing her feelings. I'm just saying it keeps

1019
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: everything on her and even while feeling it was me me,

1020
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: no matter what the situation was. So it just continues

1021
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: that narrative that look at me, this is what's happening

1022
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 2: to me, you know, damn everybody else.

1023
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: Do you think Kelly distanced herself from Britt the moment

1024
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: after the pictures came about King has removed from the show,

1025
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: You and her get into a little tiff. She starts

1026
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: to get to a few of the girls. Do you

1027
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: think Kelly just started to realize Do you think Kelly

1028
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: realized that brit is a seeking ship and I may

1029
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: need to hop on another team.

1030
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely no shade to Kelly, even though she

1031
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: probably will take this to shade, but absolutely I really

1032
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: feel like what made the Og so good is that

1033
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: they will die on a hill by themselves. They don't

1034
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: care about lashing on to anybody.

1035
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 8: I love that about the Ogs and I wanted to

1036
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 8: embody that, and when I don't see the other women

1037
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 8: embodying that, like, yeah, so what I'm brit spryand I'm

1038
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 8: gonna down this hill?

1039
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: Is Britspryan?

1040
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 6: Right?

1041
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: Wrong or indifferent, you know what I mean, That's what.

1042
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 6: I wanted to see.

1043
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: But when I saw, I'm like, girl, you know she

1044
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 2: just I'm not gonna say that she jumped ship. Yeah

1045
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: she did.

1046
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: I'm so glad I got you because I want to

1047
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: ask you this because.

1048
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: I don't think a lot.

1049
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: Of people caught it.

1050
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: So in portion made an inappropriate joke, and you saw

1051
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: her best friends to me in the pool with HERBIEKINNI

1052
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: laughing at it and not standing upper married women. I

1053
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: felt that Angela Ogley said, which which, by the way,

1054
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: before I continued, I.

1055
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: Fucked the moment. I said, I'm ok.

1056
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: The is the morning after You're in the lobby and

1057
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: Kelly and her bubble gum personality honey came in bubbly,

1058
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: sparkly like a Sarah Tooga sparkling water child, and you

1059
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: gave her nothing and you said I'm not doing that.

1060
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: I said, I ain't.

1061
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 4: Faked, bitch, bye, I said, oh, do I stand for?

1062
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 7: So?

1063
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: I felt that as you were driven back to Atlanta,

1064
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: you said, oh, bitch, I got y'all, Samia that little

1065
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: secret you told me and drew where I put my

1066
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: fingers back here across the when y'all.

1067
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 4: Pinky swore.

1068
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: Hu and Shmillah told you all the things she felt

1069
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: about Porsche. And when you rid a Porsche to your

1070
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: rental property playing tennis, honey giving Serena Williams, t'se yeah, so.

1071
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 4: And you said to.

1072
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: Her, oh my gosh, it was going to be a Porsche.

1073
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: Did you orchar state that as a payback?

1074
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: Not intentionally, It kind of just fell and line that way,

1075
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: because you know what I have been confiding in Shamia.

1076
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: I felt like Shami and I were building a report.

1077
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: You know, you saw us at the studio together, You

1078
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: saw me at her house with brit She gave me

1079
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: the olive branch. I felt like Shamie and I were

1080
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: building a rapport and we connected on being married and

1081
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: all these things. So for me to witness her acting

1082
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: that way, and you know in Nashville, I'm like, oh

1083
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 2: my gosh, Like, I don't owe you anything. You didn't

1084
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 2: owe me anything in that moment with Porsche. So why

1085
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: am I, you know, holding true to this Pinky promise?

1086
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: So why am I holding things that you told me

1087
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: in confidence when you you know, you didn't have my

1088
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: back on I needed you to have my back and

1089
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: so I felt like Porscha needed to know these things,

1090
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: and she did, and I didn't tell it in a

1091
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: way to destroy their friendship, Because if you're friends with

1092
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 2: someone twenty years, if you let Angela Oakley come through

1093
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: with you know, two minutes of conversation and destroy it,

1094
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: that friendship was already rocky, you know. So I feel

1095
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: like Porsche needed to know those things. Yes, so I

1096
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: did save it for that moment.

1097
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: Based on what Shamiyah said to you Andrew doing this

1098
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: Pinky Square conversation, and based on her actions as she

1099
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: was telling it to you. Do you feel like Shemiah

1100
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: is jealous of Porsche or do you think Porscha is

1101
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: jealous of Shemiah.

1102
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think Portia is jealous of Shamia.

1103
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 2: I know that's the running narrative. I don't think that

1104
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: at all. I don't think Shamiah is jealous of Portia.

1105
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: I do think, and I said this before, I do

1106
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: think that when Shamiah was invited on the show, she

1107
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: wanted it and she did what she had to do

1108
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: to get it. I don't know if Porscha was welcoming

1109
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: of that, but I feel like she wanted to be

1110
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: on this platform. I don't know where jealousy comes in.

1111
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 2: I just feel like some you know, maybe Porscha's like, girl,

1112
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: this is mine, this is mine, do your thing. I'm

1113
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: good over here. I'll bring you over from time to time.

1114
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: And Shmi was like, I want it too, you know.

1115
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: So that's probably where the strain began. I don't know,

1116
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's jealousy, you know, I don't

1117
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: think it's jealousy. Jealousy is a strong word for someone,

1118
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: for a group of girls who've been friends, you know,

1119
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: all those years. So I think maybe a little envy,

1120
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I want that. Maybe she covered it

1121
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: the platform, Shamiah, But I don't think they're jealous of

1122
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: one another.

1123
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: Do you think shod Me and Porscha are real friends?

1124
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: Just based on you being around them filming and stuff.

1125
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm confused. Sometimes I'm looking around like is that real?

1126
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: You know? Are they for real? But I will say

1127
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: now I know that they are truly at a place impass.

1128
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: I truly think they're, you know, taking some space from

1129
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: one another.

1130
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 3: Fadri came back to the show.

1131
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: You watched the show before prior to Phaedria coming back

1132
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: this season were you a fan of Phaedra?

1133
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: You know what, I was a fan of the one

1134
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: read that she had. You know what you will know

1135
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: is that your husband, you know, my daughter, you know

1136
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: that one platinum in our house with my daughter. So

1137
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: I was a fan of that. But as far as

1138
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: her character, no, I really you know, she was quiet.

1139
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: She had a little few jazz, but I was mostly

1140
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: team Kenya during that whole you know, back and forth

1141
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: because Keenya just cracked me up, you know, and her

1142
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: little reads back and forth with Phaedra, no shade to Thadre.

1143
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: It's just that that's who I, you know, liked in

1144
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: that little battle.

1145
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: So when Faedri came back to the show, what were

1146
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: your thoughts as you were feeling with her?

1147
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 2: You know what, it's so crazy, and I was just like,

1148
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like she was going to

1149
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: come for me. I just felt like I just didn't

1150
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: feel the energy would be authentic. And that's just and

1151
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: I have a little bit of discernment. I have a

1152
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: great sense of discernment. I just kind of felt like

1153
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: that would be the case. And I mentioned it to

1154
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: someone who will remain nameless unless she wants to.

1155
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 3: Come for it and she was a former housewife of Atlanta.

1156
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, And.

1157
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: She was like, she wouldn't do that. She's not gonna

1158
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: come for you, She's I was just like, it just

1159
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: makes sense, you know. I felt like she would. And

1160
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't wrong. She did, you know what I mean?

1161
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: She did. Even watching it now, I see the jabs

1162
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: she's making. I see the in role she's making to

1163
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 2: my husband and the thing she said about him. So

1164
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: I wasn't wrong. My discernment wasn't wrong. And a lot

1165
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 2: of fans are like, don't you know I mentioned it

1166
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: on another interview. They were like, doesn't have to come

1167
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: for you? Who do you think you are? No one

1168
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: knows you. I was just like, yeah, it's something there.

1169
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 3: Why do you think Faedra is coming for you?

1170
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: You're watching the show, she's making tons of comments about

1171
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: your looks. Why do you think Faedra is coming for

1172
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: you so soon?

1173
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: Because who else? Who else? This is? This is a

1174
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: show like who else? And it wouldn't be Portia or

1175
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 2: Shramia had her back and forth Kelly and Britton, no

1176
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: one would you know, nobody would have cared, you know,

1177
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: and so here I am, and so why not you know,

1178
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: why not?

1179
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: Do you believe what we're seeing happening now with these

1180
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: episodes airing? We just saw this episode that you know,

1181
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: there's this rumor that Phaedra allegedly started that Charles is

1182
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: still cheating on you, and that comes out and you and.

1183
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 3: Faedra have a back and forth about it.

1184
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: Do you believe Faedra came back on the show and

1185
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: started this rumor that Charles is still cheating on you?

1186
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1187
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: And you know this because.

1188
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: Because of the person she used to start the rumor

1189
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: told me it was her.

1190
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: Do you believe this person telling the truth?

1191
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: Yes, he had a lot to lose if he didn't,

1192
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: and it's just who he is and things that he'd

1193
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: done in his past. He didn't want to come to light.

1194
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: So I found out about it and I was just like,

1195
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna tell me, you know what happened and who

1196
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: sent you? And he beat around the bush and he

1197
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: just said, I'm gonna tell you and he did tell us,

1198
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: and then there was just this connection to Athens George.

1199
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've never met anybody from Athens George ever,

1200
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: and I've been in Georgia twenty years. Never unless I

1201
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: never and to be in a room with four people

1202
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: from Athens at the same time. I was just like, okay,

1203
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: bad production, bad producing. Uh, but yeah, he did tell me,

1204
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: and I do one hundred percent believe them. I do

1205
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: because everything made sense, like your sister went to high

1206
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: school with her brother, Like you know what I mean,

1207
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: Like you come in this room and you don't know

1208
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: anybody here, but ironically, your sister went to high school

1209
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: with Thadri's brother. You know, I'm like, okay. So it

1210
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 2: was like, Angela, I told you the truth.

1211
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: Hated How did you feel about that that was all discovered?

1212
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: I was disappointed because I was told, you know, get

1213
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: to know Phage or she's coming by, get to know her,

1214
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: and I kind of looked at her for information, like

1215
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: tell me how this worked. I'm new to realities. He

1216
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: could tell me the inrolls, tell me the inside the

1217
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: inside out, and you know, she was a source of information.

1218
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,959
Speaker 2: So for that to happen, and I was just like, yeah,

1219
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: it was a breach of trust. And you know, I

1220
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: didn't appreciate that at all. And it's like why the

1221
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: truth is so much better than fiction? Like why do

1222
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: you have to lie on my husband? Like let's just

1223
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: talk about the things that we've been through. And when

1224
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: me and Charles took this show, we were like, we're

1225
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 2: gonna talk about everything we've been through, all of it

1226
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: because we didn't want to be ambushed with anything, so

1227
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: let's let the world know. And for her to create

1228
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: a lie, it was just it was devious.

1229
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 3: Do you think fed deserves to have a peach.

1230
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: If she does that? No? No, if that's what you're doing.

1231
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: And I understand everybody has to work, right, we need

1232
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: a job, we need to earn a living for our

1233
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: kids and to continue our lifestyles. But really, I don't

1234
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 2: think that's what this is. But I'm so low on

1235
01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: the total poll. I no saying that, and I'm not

1236
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: trying to get her fired. Maybe this is a learning curve,

1237
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: you know, because everybody is not impressed. And I think

1238
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: that was the misstep a lot of the ladies made,

1239
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: is that I'm supposed to be impressed with the social

1240
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 2: media following and who they are on the show, and

1241
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 2: I just wasn't impressed. Not to say anything bad about it,

1242
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 2: but that's just not though I don't aspire, do you

1243
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 2: know understand I have?

1244
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you survived your first reunion.

1245
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: Yes, without giving too much away, how was the season

1246
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: sixteen reunion for you?

1247
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 3: It's your first?

1248
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 2: It was good. I am still standing. I had to

1249
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: let everybody know who I was, and I feel like

1250
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: it's gonna be good. I feel like all of the

1251
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: ladies did an amazing job and you know, proving their

1252
01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 2: point or locker up, you know. But we survived, and

1253
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 2: it's gonna be funny. You know, Charles shows up because

1254
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: he shows up for me, so he's gonna be a

1255
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: three yearion and we just we just it's actually a

1256
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: fun time, crazy enough that I can have a good

1257
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: time with Porsche and Phaedra and all of us in

1258
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: the same room at the same time and we are

1259
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: getting along.

1260
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: It worked out, okay. So come next season? Would you

1261
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 3: like to come back to next season?

1262
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: I haven't been home for next season yet.

1263
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 3: Well, I know some people.

1264
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: I'll be making costs myself. I have been known to

1265
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: do that, So you're you'll be back. Who in a

1266
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: perfect world? Who is Angela Oakley's dream cast that you

1267
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: would love to be surrounded by on the Real Housewives

1268
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 1: in Atlanta?

1269
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: In a perfect world?

1270
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 3: In a perfect world?

1271
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: Perfect world first and foremost, Yo, you.

1272
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 3: Know me is crazy.

1273
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: Funny, She's good. Nini Uh Kenya, Kenya, Kenya. We need Kenya,

1274
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: who saved me this season and who allowed me to

1275
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 2: continue on Cynthia, Cynthia, Cynthia.

1276
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: Porsche Porsche PSA gotta get my shtown girl Drew in there.

1277
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 2: True. I love me some Drew. And you know what

1278
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: I thought about this for just this comment this lady

1279
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 2: made on my page and pasties uh turking and pasties

1280
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan's.

1281
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 8: Claudia, she said twirking.

1282
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 2: She broke the internet on my eye. I cannot believe.

1283
01:10:52,920 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 2: Like her mouth is Claudia ring, Claudia bag her run through,

1284
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: like we need to play with Claudia. So I'll bring

1285
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: Claudia and so how ma you do I get? Okay?

1286
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: So I'll bring two more, okay, just because I need

1287
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: somebody to frown at and to make faces at.

1288
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: Bring Faedra okay, okay.

1289
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: And last but not least, who would be on my cast?

1290
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna get a friend who would get who

1291
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: would be on my cast would be Charaine you Chiel,

1292
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 2: Charae you, oh my, I'm gonna bring Charae back. It's

1293
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: like we were have fun like I know. I know

1294
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: all the shade she's gonna throw.

1295
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 6: I know it.

1296
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: You know she's gonna throw shades. She's gonna get me

1297
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: a run for my money. But I like that, you

1298
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean? I like that, you know long

1299
01:11:55,040 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: it's were respectful. Okay with that ball, I get it,

1300
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: I get it.

1301
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 4: You are good. You want a good show.

1302
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: A good show.

1303
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Speaker 4: Those are some power players you made.

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Speaker 2: And as a friend, we're gonna bring shamia because you

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Speaker 2: know means a friend. Okay, I like you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you do FRIENDO.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, friend, that's.

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Speaker 4: A good Okay.

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Speaker 1: So before I let you go, it'll be remiss of me.

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Speaker 1: I want to offer my condelensis. I know you recently

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Speaker 1: launch your mother. I did, and as a mama's boy

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Speaker 1: who lost his mother to five years ago, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Want you to know that.

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Speaker 1: I I understand because yours is obviously fresh, and being

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Speaker 1: a fan of yours and the.

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Speaker 3: Show your mother so gorgeous did. Look you don't want

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Speaker 3: to cry?

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Speaker 2: Look no, I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, no, no, But able to be remiss

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Speaker 1: of me not to offer you my condolences. The only

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Speaker 1: quest I'm going to ask, obviously, is was your mother

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Speaker 1: and Charles. Were they able to make a miss before

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Speaker 1: she passed?

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01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: Well, when she passed, he was the one picking me

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Speaker 2: up off the floor. But aside from that, he cooked

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Speaker 2: the meal she came and ate and that was as

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Speaker 2: good as I needed it to be between them, you know,

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Speaker 2: if my mom was in the room, he recognized my mom,

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Speaker 2: He loved my mom, he knew who she was to me,

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01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: so they were really good. And again, just to see

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Speaker 2: her on the show say I love him, you know,

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01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 2: and for him to say that, I was like, thank you, mam.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because she knows. We all

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Speaker 2: know who Charles is and we love Charles. And I'm

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Speaker 2: happy that that happened. But for you you to understand

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Speaker 2: the pain, I didn't know that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, listen my advice to you, and it's something.

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Speaker 1: It's like this club of kids who lost their mom,

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Speaker 1: especially when you lose them at an early age.

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Speaker 3: You're a part of this club where you only are able.

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Speaker 1: To understand that it is by far the worst pain

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Speaker 1: you could go through because that's your mother. And one

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Speaker 1: thing I just want to share with you is everyone's

1345
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: grief looks differently, and you take all the time you need.

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01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: I have nine siblings. We all greeed very differently. We've

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01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: lost our mother, and all ten of us were mother

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Speaker 1: girls or mother boys.

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01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: Like our mother was our world.

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Speaker 1: And what I will say to you that helps me.

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Speaker 1: My mother's been passed for like I think, like five years,

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Speaker 1: five six years. I speak to her every single day,

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01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: and I talked to her and and she speaks to me,

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: and that helps me here to where the only things

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01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: missing is the physicality of this woman.

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Speaker 3: But my mother is right here now, She's around.

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Speaker 1: And I talked to her in the car, me and

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: her gossip because my mother would be like girl any.

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 3: That was our relationship.

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01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: So I still continue to speak to my mom that way,

1361
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: like girl, I'm about to go to Atlanta interview an ugly.

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Speaker 3: Child, you know.

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Speaker 1: So my advice to you is your mother's physical form

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: may not be here in the present, but I want

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01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: you to know that her spirit live on forever, and

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Speaker 1: you have gained a permanent guardian angel who.

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Speaker 9: Is going to watch over you and usher you into

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 9: greatness and protect you because God has gained a friend.

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01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 1: God has gained a friend, so he's able to assign

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Speaker 1: your mother to do things for you on earth and.

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Speaker 3: She has you so know that. I want to know that. Okay, Okay, no,

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: Tell your your daughter's good to your daughter's mine, tell

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01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: her she gets married again.

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01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 3: We need to let's get advanced.

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: Notice daughter, honey, but I want you to know you

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01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: officially are the m v P of the year and

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Speaker 1: you and and I mean this, you are going to

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Speaker 1: be the person from this day moving forward that I

1380
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 1: will tell my new reality starts to join my shows.

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Speaker 3: Study Angela Oakly because she did it.

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Speaker 2: You just want to keep me crying, know that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, congratulations, my love.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're so welcome. You're welcome. Good job, good job.

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Speaker 4: I didn't ever called the reunion like a.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack

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Speaker 1: of Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel at the Carlos King Underscore