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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon, and this is episode number ten.

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Speaker 1: Today we're talking about trail cameras and everything you need

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Speaker 1: to know to get the most out of them leading

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Speaker 1: up to the hunting season. This should be an information

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Speaker 1: packed episode, so kickback, relax, and enjoy. All Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I am fresh off of a very nice, long and

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Speaker 1: sunburnt Memorial Day weekend and joining me as my counterpart

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Speaker 1: and co host Dan Johnson out in Iowa. How's your weekend, Bud? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll put it to you this way. I ate a

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Speaker 1: lot of grilled meat, I drank a lot of beer.

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Speaker 1: I did some deer hunting stuff. I went fishing. I

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Speaker 1: got to spend time with friends and family. So I

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Speaker 1: crammed as much to do type of things into three

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Speaker 1: days as humanly possible. Man. That uh, that sounds about

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Speaker 1: as good of a weekend as you can get. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was happy with it. How about you?

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. I I had a good weekend too, Like

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Speaker 1: I said, got a lot of sun um. We spent

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Speaker 1: a couple of nights at the campground doing some canoeing

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Speaker 1: and you know, some chilling out, eating some burgers and brats,

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Speaker 1: and had a cook out at a friend's house, and

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Speaker 1: then did a bunch of yard work and a little

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Speaker 1: bit of deer a deer related prep as well. So

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Speaker 1: I got some stuff done, which is always a good feeling.

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Speaker 1: So I can't complain at all. I bet, I bet

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Speaker 1: in three days, I ate brott Werst. Now, are you

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Speaker 1: being serious? Friday, Saturday, Sunday and yesterday not. I'm not joking.

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Speaker 1: I bet you I ate close to worst. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how to respond to that. That's just ridiculously

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Speaker 1: impressive meat sweat, you know, Like I remember, I was

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Speaker 1: like Friday night, I was just I was hungry for

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Speaker 1: some reason because I didn't eat a lot that day

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Speaker 1: because I was trying to get out of work. And

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Speaker 1: I just remember sitting there going next bun loaded up,

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Speaker 1: next month, saur kraut, uh, mustard and uh, and it

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Speaker 1: was just like one went down, then another one, then

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Speaker 1: another one. So yeah, I was I was happy with

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Speaker 1: my performance. This is that's pretty impressive. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be perfect for the episode we're gonna do later this

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Speaker 1: year where we talk about um, being healthy and working

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Speaker 1: out and stuff and how that can help you as

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Speaker 1: a hunter. This is a great example. I was. I

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Speaker 1: was protein loading for the weekend. Yeah, exactly. Oh that's funny.

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Speaker 1: I can't claim to have eaten anything that much recently,

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Speaker 1: but like you did, I drank a few ice beverages.

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Speaker 1: So if that counts for anything, that's good stuff. Um. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you have a good weekend. And we wanted, uh,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a little bit more about the

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Speaker 1: deer stuff that we did this weekend, So we'll dive

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Speaker 1: into that in just a second. Um, but I had

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Speaker 1: one more serious question I wanted to ask you before

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Speaker 1: we got into the beating potatoes here all right, and

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Speaker 1: speaking of potatoes, here, here's what I got for you, Dan.

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Speaker 1: If I don't even know if I can see this

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Speaker 1: up losing a straight face. If you were a potato,

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Speaker 1: would you rather be a baked potato, a mashed potato,

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Speaker 1: fried potatoes, or scaloped? Give it to me straight here.

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Speaker 1: If my father, if I followed in my father's footsteps,

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Speaker 1: I would be scaloped potatoes. Do explain, but but I'm

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Speaker 1: not my father. Okay, I'm gonna have to go with

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Speaker 1: them up, because in my opinion, there's nothing better than

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Speaker 1: a good steak or dear wine with some fried potatoes

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Speaker 1: a what brought this on? And be what's your answer? Well,

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Speaker 1: Literally this is I'm I'm kind of strange. I guess

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Speaker 1: I was driving down the road and for some reason

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Speaker 1: I started thinking about potatoes and I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: i'd be a good question, asked Dan. So here I am.

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Speaker 1: But I don't have any potato jokes. No, no potato jokes,

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Speaker 1: nothing about being baked. No. Maybe in college, but that's

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Speaker 1: neither here nor there right exactly exactly. Oh geez, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So we better talk about trail cameras before you start

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Speaker 1: losing sponsors. Yeah, enough about potatoes and and all that

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Speaker 1: good stuff. We really wanted to talk about trail cameras today,

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Speaker 1: And like I mentioned, we both did some trail camera

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Speaker 1: related work this past weekend, so I wanted to hear

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about what you were doing. Dan

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Speaker 1: in a second, but I thought i'd kicked things off

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Speaker 1: here started by starting with a story about what happened

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Speaker 1: to me this weekend. And it's actually kind of tragic. Um,

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Speaker 1: So if you'll indulge me, I'm gonna share a sad story,

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Speaker 1: all right. So about a little over a week ago,

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Speaker 1: maybe ten days, I put out my first trail cameras

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Speaker 1: on some of my Michigan parties, put out some mineral

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Speaker 1: and changing them out. And at this point, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not expecting to see a whole lot, but there's

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Speaker 1: And there's one buck in particular on one of these

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Speaker 1: through the winter. Last I saw him was December, and

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Speaker 1: I've got no son of him since. But nobody around

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Speaker 1: this area has killed him that I know of, haven't

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Speaker 1: found him dead. I shed hunted and walked all the

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Speaker 1: sign them, So I'm really hopeful he's still around. But

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Speaker 1: him even if there's not much antler growth. And he

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Speaker 1: Oh my hope is is out there? So long story short,

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Speaker 1: just one SD card. Somehow, some way along my hike

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Speaker 1: my SD cards. And it was just like an absolutely

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Speaker 1: it was just devastating. You know how, there's two things

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Speaker 1: because I don't know about you, but checking a trail

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Speaker 1: ashtray of my truck, and and that's where I keep them, yeah,

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Speaker 1: nothing exciting. So it's still early the beans. The beans

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Speaker 1: of my cable like my tree cables. So I got one, two, three,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna have to do some research to

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Speaker 1: find out what what's wrong with them. They're not it's

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Speaker 1: And uh. Other than that, did some scouting found an

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Speaker 1: this specific pinch point in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah. Uh, then you know, then the next

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Speaker 1: it sounds like a pretty good plan. Yep, Um, that's

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Speaker 1: dose hitting the trail cameras more than one time a day. So,

429
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know fat calculation counts that into

430
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: uh the mix. But because there's snow on the ground

431
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: and there's easy accessible food for these deer, they're gonna

432
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: go to the bait piles before they have to go

433
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: digging through the snow. And they, you know, they're pulling

434
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: those bait piles in the wintertime, are pulling in deer

435
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: from uh you know, it could be a long ways

436
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: away that typically don't live in that area. So I'm

437
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: pretty sure the survey that I took, if you want

438
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: to even call it a survey, would have been skewed

439
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: in the first place. Yeah, and I can see that

440
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: being the case too. But it's interesting. Nonetheless, um, the

441
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: when running one of these trail camera surveys by the books,

442
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. Research has shown that if you make

443
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: these calculations with a large enough sample size, um, it's

444
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: actually very statistically significant and accurate. Um. Once it's all

445
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: kind of worked out. So something to look into, and

446
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: I think I probably will try doing that on a

447
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: couple of properties around me here, just better earners stand

448
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: how to do that and get an idea of what

449
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: exactly these populations are like, and you know how I

450
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: should be hunting. So it's something to consider. But moving

451
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: on from that, you know, now that we know this

452
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: is how we're using our cameras during the summer and

453
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: those months leading up to the hunting season. I'm curious, Dan,

454
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: where do you like to place your cameras this time

455
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: of year and leading up to the season. Yeah, right now,

456
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: they're specifically over mineral sites. And that's just because the

457
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: deer hitting hitting them right now, um, you know, and

458
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: I think we talked a little bit about this on

459
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: a previous podcast, but um, you know, the mineral is

460
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: beneficial for the uh, for the fawns, you know, for

461
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: the does and their lactation cycle, and then also um,

462
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: I guess produced positive impact when it comes to the

463
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: growth of the antlers. Now how this is proven, I

464
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: don't know. According to the according to the brands of

465
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: mineral that I've used over of the years, you know,

466
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: guaranteed bigger bucks, you know what I mean, Mark, so

467
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: of course. But yeah, right now, they're specifically over trail cameras.

468
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: As the crops start to come up in in July

469
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: and they start, you know, especially the bean fields where

470
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: the beans start um potting and the corn starts getting

471
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: those soft little UH kernels on them that they like

472
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: to eat. I'll transition probably somewhere in July too, you know,

473
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: early August, depending on you know, when when I think

474
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: they're hitting those food sources, I'll be transferring over them,

475
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: um and even main trails going to these food sources.

476
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 1: So you know, and it's different every year. I just

477
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: I find it out during my scouting. Nice, yeah, that

478
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: makes sense. That's pretty close to what I do as well. UM.

479
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm using mineral sites and some attractants, but I'm also

480
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: right from the get go, I'm placing these cameras and

481
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: creating these mineral sites near those food sources that are

482
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna be hot in June, July, and August. UM. So

483
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: in the cases where I've got a property with beans

484
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: on it, all my cameras are pretty much somewhere near

485
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: the edge near those beans. And then I add the

486
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: mineral site or the different attractants. UM. I've used a

487
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: number of different mineral products UM. When we'll actually talk

488
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: about this a little bit later to UM. But then

489
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: I also use some different attractants. UM. I've used the

490
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: big in j attractings as well. That seems to pull

491
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: them into the mineral site, and then the mineral site

492
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: will keep them coming long after that. UM, after that

493
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: feed and attracting or corn or whatever it might be,

494
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: after that's gone, they keep hitting the minerals. UM. So

495
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm usually placing right now all my cameras are pretty

496
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: near the bean fields. And then eventually they moved from

497
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: hitting just the mineral right now too, they're coming to

498
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: the soybeans, and then they'll stop by the mineral site

499
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: for a few minutes and then move on to the soybeans.

500
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: But in general, that's what I'm doing, and I think

501
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: it's also not only is it you know where the

502
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: deer are right now, but also by having these food

503
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: or having these cameras out near the edge of those

504
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: food sources, I'm able to get in there and check

505
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: easily without you know, bumping any more dear than necessary.

506
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: And even though hunting season isn't you know, for a

507
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: long time, I like to keep things as low pressure

508
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: as I can um and that's just gonna help me

509
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: get more pictures to The more low pressure I can put,

510
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: the less pressure I can put on that trail camera site,

511
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: the better chance I've got of getting pictures of a

512
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: big deer. So right, and I guess I have one

513
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: of my trail cameras. It's over top of a mineral station,

514
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: but it also is over top of a water hole too,

515
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: so you know, kind of a double up there. Yeah,

516
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I've done that a couple of

517
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: times to have, not too recently, but that's a great

518
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: place for summer pictures for sure. Right, And I just

519
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: get nervous now when you know you got these ponds

520
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: on these farms, um, and some of them are some

521
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: of these ponds I have are they're real old, you know,

522
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: so basically they're just mud holes, frogs, mosquitoes. So I

523
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: was kind of hesitant to put a trail camera there

524
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: to get these deer to come up to this. But

525
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, there was tons of tracks before I even

526
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: got there, so they're still drinking out of it, you know.

527
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: I just I just feel those are e h D

528
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: prone areas and uh, I don't know, it's for some reason,

529
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: kind of makes me nervous. Yeah, especially after two summers ago,

530
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people are nervous. I got pretty lucky

531
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: when it came to this is this is off topic,

532
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: but um, I was pretty lucky and most of my properties,

533
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: I think it was the summer of two thousand and

534
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: twelve of that that horrible h D upbreak kit, I didn't

535
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: get affected too much. But how about you? What what

536
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: happened on the spots you hunt, you know, to be

537
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: honest with you, other than those ponds, and those are

538
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: closer to the road, so there's not a lot of

539
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: deer activity up there anyway. But the properties that I

540
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: had hunt have a consistent and you know how hot

541
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: it was last year last summer and dry, I had

542
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: consistent water running through my properties the entire year. It

543
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: was slow, but there was moving water, which from my

544
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: understanding helps right, keeps that those midges from reproducing in

545
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: that standing water. Yeah. Yeah, I, like I said, I

546
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: got lucky. But I do know some friends and kind

547
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: of related to what you just said, some spots where

548
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: those big standing water swamps or ponds. Um. I know

549
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: a couple of friends that had some properties that lost

550
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: seventy or eight deer. And and you know, when there's

551
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: properties with big water sources like that, it's attracting deer

552
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: from around the area that are all coming there to die. Um.

553
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Since those deer that have e h d UM, for

554
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they are attracted to water sources like that.

555
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: But I sure hope it's not something we need to

556
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: talk about this summer, but we'll continue to We'll continue

557
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: to track what happens uh summer twos fourteen, and hopefully

558
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 1: h D isn't nearly as bad as it has been

559
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. But man, I know some

560
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: people really got hammered by it. And it can really

561
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: do it can do some damage, that's for sure. Yeah yeah, Um,

562
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: all right, So we talked about, you know, where we're

563
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: putting those cameras. Both of us. We've got our cameras

564
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: over some type of mineral, maybe some kind of tract

565
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: in and we're usually near a food source or water

566
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: source or something like that. How often are you checking

567
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: your cameras for me, Dan, I'm checking them every on average,

568
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: about every two weeks. UM. Last summer, I was really

569
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: good about it and I checked him only once a month,

570
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: and I think that actually helped. In a couple of spots,

571
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: I got a lot of mature buck pictures more than

572
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: I do usually, and I think that's because I was

573
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: being particularly careful about just leaving it alone. And on

574
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: one of my spots, I even was able to access

575
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: it by just walking a creek and I just walked

576
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: that creek, pop up the shore, check the camera, pop

577
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: back down the creek, and I was just especially careful,

578
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: even though it's the off season, I was trying to

579
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: be especially careful about, you know, that movement I was

580
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: making into the property. And I think that might have

581
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: helped UM. But probably do an average it's it's maybe

582
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: every ten to fourteen days. I'm checking this time of

583
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: year just to get an idea and see what's going on.

584
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: But what about you, well, one like I always I

585
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: think I've said this almost every podcast. Now, I live

586
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: about an hour away from my hunting properties. So last

587
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: year I was forcing myself to go down every two

588
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: weeks and that just got kind of kind of hard

589
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: to because I was finding myself at like four o'clock

590
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: on a Sunday night driving down to where I hunt,

591
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: checking cards and then coming back. So now I upgraded

592
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: my SD cards to eight gigabytes or excuse me, from

593
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: two to four. And so now I'm just I'm gonna

594
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: let him sit a month this year, probably three to

595
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: four weeks, or any time that I'm back in town,

596
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: I'll throw it, you know, do a check. But my

597
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: goal is to do four weeks. So um, you know,

598
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: as far as pressure is concerned, I'm not putting out

599
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. And you know, I know that

600
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: I have cards big enough to handle all the images

601
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: because I've had times where even though even though you

602
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: have like, uh, I don't know what the what on

603
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: my trail camera, it's called rewrite. So once the cards full,

604
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: it starts rewriting over the oldest ones, and mine was

605
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: doing that. But you kind of miss kind of missed

606
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: the whole growth cycle, or you miss you could miss something,

607
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: and I don't like that. So I just got bigger

608
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: SD cards. Yeah, that's the way to go, for sure.

609
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: You don't want to. I mean, it's it's nice that

610
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: they'll rewrite and they'll keep taking pictures, because I guess

611
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: the one thing worse would be, you know, the pictures

612
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: at all, exactly for the last two weeks no pictures.

613
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: So at least you get the most recent pictures. But

614
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, I, um, I can definitely see it. That'd

615
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: be nice. I you know, when it comes to checking

616
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: my cameras, like we've talked about, I try to as

617
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: minimal as possible. But man, when I'm at least for

618
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: the properties where I'm close to these properties, it's just tough.

619
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: I want to open my Christmas gifts and I want

620
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: them now, you know. But um, similar to you, I

621
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: do have other properties that I hunt out of state

622
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: where just by the nature of the distance, I'm forced

623
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: to wait longer, which is a good thing. Um. So,

624
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: like my spots down in Ohio, I'll be checking those

625
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: just once a month. And I actually put a camera

626
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: up down on our Ohio property like two or three

627
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: weeks ago, so I think maybe mid to late June,

628
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: I'll be making another trip down there to check that camera.

629
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: And I'm excited because there's a couple really nice dear

630
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: that I think made it through. So excited about that.

631
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: But next I thought, this is a perfect segway too.

632
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: You mentioned you have eight cameras, and um, so I

633
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: was I'll share a little bit about how many cameras

634
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I have. But I'm curious, you know, how are you

635
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: spreading these cameras out About how many cameras per property

636
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: or per let's say, maybe a hundred acres are you

637
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: putting out there. It's funny because us I have learned

638
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: that on a couple of these properties. I'll give you

639
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: an example. I have a river bottom egg field that

640
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: and along the river the creect system down there. There's

641
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: probably twenty I would say, maybe a thirty fifty yards

642
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: strip of timber between the river and the egg field,

643
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: and a lot of these deer like to bed there. Now,

644
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: I've had trail camera in mineral stations right there and

645
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: had a good amount of deer show up. Now, this

646
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: past year, I put a mineral station across the big

647
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: egg field, probably two fifty three d yards on the

648
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: the opposite end of this egg field that butts up

649
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: against the main draws, and all the timber. Completely different

650
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: set of deer hit that one. So even though it

651
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: was relatively close, they were close geographically. The deer just

652
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: traveled in different areas, so I'm getting different deer. So

653
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: it all depends on the geography of the properties um

654
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: I have. I would say roughly fifty acres maybe for

655
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: one for one mineral station one trail camera. Right now,

656
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: now when the hunting season, I know over from experience

657
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: that I'm gonnah, there's there's gonna be a spot this year.

658
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: And I talked about the pinch point that I found

659
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: out where I'm gonna have a trail camera on a

660
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: fence crossing and I'm gonna have a trail camera down

661
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: at the bottom and they're gonna be probably yards away

662
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: from each other, covering two entry and exit points coming

663
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: out of the same location on this pinch point. But

664
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna catch every year that's gonna come through. But

665
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot for me, it's based off

666
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: the geography. Yeah, that's a great point. And there's sometimes

667
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: those almost like blockades that aren't like natural blockades, like

668
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: a like a creek or a ridge or a road

669
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: that even though you know you might be in a

670
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: ten acre area, one group of deer, like you said,

671
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: one group of deer only works the one five acres,

672
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: and one group of deer only works the other forty

673
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: five on the other side of it, and you'll never

674
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: see the same deer on the other side. Um. So

675
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: there's no perfect answer, like you said, UM, I probably.

676
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: I think it also depends at the time of the year.

677
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: So this time year, during the summer, I probably have

678
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: less cameras out um per property or per hundred acres um.

679
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: You know, for instance, take for example, um, one of

680
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: the main properties in Michigan I have, I'll have two

681
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: cameras hanging in the summer, and then during the hunting

682
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: season I might turn it up to three, maybe even four,

683
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to better understand movement in certain areas

684
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: or daytime usage. While this time of the year, you know,

685
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get pictures of a few select deer,

686
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: and you know you're drawing them in from that larger

687
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: area where you're attracting. So um, but like you said,

688
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: it all depends. Um. I guess I'd probably averaged maybe

689
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: in the summer one per acre maybe like you said,

690
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: one per fifty acres. I guess, um, But it's it's

691
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: a fluid answer. There's no perfect answer to that, right,

692
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: and then come come hunting season, it all changes. Because

693
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: when I had I had a giant, an absolute giant.

694
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever showed you pictures of him,

695
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: but showed up and in this fifty acre piece that

696
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: I had permission to hunt. And then one let's see, yeah,

697
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: I had, I had five five trail cameras on a

698
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: fifty five acres and I he was He's worth it

699
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: to to have that many cameras there, you know. Uh

700
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: So I only had three other trick cameras for the

701
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: rest of my properties, but this year was worth it.

702
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: So you know, I may have sacrificed in other areas,

703
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: but I wanted to. You know, if I had the

704
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: opportunity to kill a typical ten, I'm gonna do it. Yeah,

705
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: I can. I can understand that that kind of deer

706
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: would warrant some special attention from anyone. Oh man, I can't.

707
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: I just that's the one, dear, I'm hoping shows back

708
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: up this year. But typically he shows up in the

709
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: winter when I dropped corn, and he didn't this year,

710
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of nervous. Yikes. Yeah, yeah, it's uh gosh,

711
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: that's the best thing about this time of year though,

712
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: in June and July getting the answer to that question

713
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: hopefully you know, did he make it? And I know

714
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm looking for. Uh, he's got two slices

715
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: out of his left ear, and I know who I

716
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: know who he is, and I just I hope, I

717
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: hope he shows back up. Man, I'm pumped to see

718
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: what see what kind of conspires. I sure hope, so

719
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: hope it happens for you too. That'll be some exciting

720
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: summer podcasts if are if might have to have you

721
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: might have to have a podcast where I'm from the

722
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: field checking my trail camera to get the live reaction.

723
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: Oh man, I could geek out about this all day.

724
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: I've got a couple of friends of mine that we'll

725
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: just meet up and talk, dear, get breakfast every once

726
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: in a while, and I'll just talk like probably every

727
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: time we meet up. It'll be like, oh, man, what

728
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: do you think Leaner is gonna look like if you

729
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: made it this year? And we'll just sit there and

730
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: oh and about it for ten minutes. It doesn't get old.

731
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: I can just dreams. I can just dream about it. Man.

732
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: But um, let's jump to something we've kind of touched

733
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: on a couple of times already. Um, we've we've half

734
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: answered this question. But what about what exactly are we

735
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: putting in front of our trail cameras. I sort of

736
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: already covered for me. I'm putting out a combination of

737
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: mineral and attracting. So for minerals, I've used a couple

738
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: of different things. I've used trophy rocks, I've used a

739
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: mineral from the White tailents to in North America UM,

740
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: and I'm also looking forward to trying a couple of

741
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: new mineral products from Big and j this year. So

742
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: those are the things that comes to mineral I'm using.

743
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: And then for just an attracting, I'm either using Big

744
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: and Jay's UM a long range attracted essentially a fee

745
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: that you're pouring out there on the ground. And then

746
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm also usually mixing that with corn so I putting

747
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: out maybe ten pounds, depending on where I'm at and

748
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: what the legal limit is. Um. So that's what I'm

749
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: putting in front of my cameras to draw those deer

750
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: and to get the pictures during the summertime. What specifically

751
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: are you using? Well, over the past years, it's literally varied,

752
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: and a lot of it has to do with price

753
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: of the product. Um. Now, when I was with a

754
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: hunting team, I guess you want to say I had

755
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I had some stuff at dirt cheap prices or I

756
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: got for free, So no brainer, that's what I used.

757
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: But in the past from a from me purchasing it myself.

758
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: I you know, lucky Buck always comes to mind. Um,

759
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: it's it's a really good attracting And I tell you,

760
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: a deer come to that stuff. We have monster rack

761
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: I've used the past couple of years. We've seen good

762
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: results this year. I have a good friend who started

763
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: a business and the name of the company is called

764
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: Whitetail XTC. And uh, um that's a fairly effect. It's

765
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: the middle of the range as far as price is concerned.

766
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: And uh when I went and hung my trail cameras

767
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: this weekend, it looks like they're hitting it very good.

768
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I think a lot of these, uh,

769
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: these products do the same thing. But you know, it's

770
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: all the marketing on what what you want them, you know,

771
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: what they want you to believe as far as bigger

772
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: bucks or if it's a pure attractant, if it's you know,

773
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: we've talked about that a hundred times now as far

774
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: as official attractants last year and a little bit this year. Um,

775
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: I've used something from Monster Rack and it's they it's

776
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: like it's almost like a syrup. It's uh, they have

777
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: cherry flavors and a whole bunch of different flavors. Um,

778
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: that's that's just the real potent smell. And I guess

779
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: the deer attracted to it. UM don't know how much

780
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: it actually works and if it works for longer than

781
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: up until the first rain washes it all away, who knows,

782
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: But it seems to catch some attention. I don't know

783
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: if I'm going to be using it that much this year,

784
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: but I can see how it would catch their nose. Yeah. Yeah,

785
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: that's a big thing that I that I look for for.

786
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: That type of thing is that scent. So that's a

787
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: big reason why I like the Bigger and Right Big

788
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: and Jay projects because it's got a strong scent. Or

789
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna use anything else, I'm looking for something

790
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: that's going to catch the deer's nose from a distance

791
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: and bring them in and then they can discover that, hey,

792
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: I've got a consistent mineral source here, or a consistent

793
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: source of corn or whatever it might be. Um, it's

794
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: nice to be able to catch them from a distance. UM.

795
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Quick mentioned on the Lucky Buck thing. Lucky Buck is

796
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: actually out of an area right near where I live,

797
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: and one of my best buddies down here actually was

798
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: on some of their I think they're packaging and some

799
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: of their advertisements because he killed a state record Michigan

800
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: buck back in the day. So cool, kind of fun

801
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: story about Lucky Buck. I've actually never used Lucky Buck,

802
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: even though their local. UM, but like you said, I've

803
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: heard good things. So I just want to have a

804
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: quick reminder, like a quick tip for you mentioned laying

805
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: corn out this time of year and throughout the summer.

806
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Just make sure you that corn pile is getting plenty

807
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: of sunlight throughout the day because and this is what

808
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: I've learned the hard way you dump out a corn

809
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: pile in August September in inside the timber, that humidity

810
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: is going to create mold on that corn pile, and

811
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: then the deer won't touch it. They'll actually stay away

812
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: from it. So if you're gonna do it, make sure

813
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: it's on a field edge where sun can dry it

814
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: out the entire time. Just kind of a quick tip,

815
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: I guess I like that quick tips from Dan Johnson.

816
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: That's a good one, right there. That's right, that's right,

817
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: all right. We are very quickly running out of time.

818
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: It's gone a lot faster I thought we were going there. Hey,

819
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: time flies when you're having fun. That's the truth. That's

820
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: the truth. How about real quick we touch on the

821
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: types of cameras were using. UM. I've used a handful

822
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: of different cameras over the years, but probably the last

823
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: four years or so, I've fine tuned my purchases down

824
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: to Bushneil Trophy cams. UM. I've used probably four other brands,

825
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: but I've had so many darn issues with different cameras

826
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: where they just die on me, or something's flimsy or

827
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: something's not working. And the most consistent one I've found

828
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: so far has been the Bushneils. I originally tried them

829
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: because they were the back five years ago, they were

830
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: the only cameras that were really small. Now everyone's small, um,

831
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: which is great. But for me, I just have built

832
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: that trust with them over this past four or five

833
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: year period, UM and I've just grown to to feel

834
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: comfortable with them the time I know I'm gonna get pictures,

835
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna look half decent, and I don't

836
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: need to worry about them crashing on me. So so

837
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: I've stuck with them because of that. And you know,

838
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: they also when it comes down to other important features,

839
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: they've got one of the fastest trigger speeds out there,

840
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: which is importance you're catching deer if they're moving across

841
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: the frame. And they've got all, you know, all the

842
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: other features that most camera manufacturers have, the fancy stuff

843
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: like uh, you know, the plants plot scanner or the

844
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: different types of flash modes and etcetera. So for me,

845
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm using. UM And I have I think

846
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: nine cameras that I've accumulated over the years now, UM

847
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: and I've had a handful that have died on me.

848
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: UM and all those nine that are still alive right now.

849
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: I think seven of them are are those trophy cams.

850
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: So that's mostly what I'm using. But you know, that's

851
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: what I choose to use. That's what worked well for

852
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: me and what I believe in. But you know, there's

853
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: there's other options. Um. And I'm sure you've been using

854
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: different cameras too, So what's worked for you, Dan, Well,

855
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: back in the day when I bought my first show cameras, Um,

856
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: they're fairly cheap, and they were Moltries, and they took

857
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: the double D batteries. They were heavy and they're about

858
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: the size of a sheet of paper, it felt like,

859
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: so they stuck out their big Uh. They had flash

860
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: so but you know, they they had an SD card

861
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: and they seemed to work since then. Um, and again

862
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: having the benefit of being on a the hunting team,

863
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: if you want to say that, I got some pretty

864
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: good prices from Covert trail cameras, and to be honest

865
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: with you, they're they're right in the middle of the line.

866
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: They're not the cheapest and they're not the most expensive

867
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: and when and they work really good. It was just

868
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: this year that I had some issues with them. Um.

869
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: The Moltries of the past. Uh, they they did not

870
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: work after below freezing for some reason. They just would

871
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 1: take black pictures. And uh so anytime it was below

872
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: freezing outside, it would just it was like thirty two

873
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: degrees in the camera would it would work, take pictures,

874
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: but the pictures would show up just black. Um. You know,

875
00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: my my coverts worked really well and other aside from

876
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: just a couple issues with them, Um, very very dependable.

877
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: And I also have one of those trail cameras by

878
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Covert that sends the pictures to your cell phone. Oh yes,

879
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: and uh that's pretty cool. I'm not gonna lie. That

880
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: is very cool. But the issue the issue is you

881
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: gotta you know, you gotta have cell phone reception too

882
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 1: for him to work. And I if I do get

883
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: cell phone reception, it's very minimal where I hunt, and

884
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: that that can be a problem and something to definitely

885
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: take into consideration if you're going to purchase one of

886
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: those cameras. Yeah, that's a that's a great point. I've

887
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: never used when those in the past, but um, you know,

888
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: Bushnell has came out with them this year or so.

889
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: I'm excited to try that this summer and it's gonna

890
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: be really nice for me, um, because you know, I

891
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: hunt some properties that are five hours away from home,

892
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: so it's just it's not realistic for me to be

893
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: able to check those too often. So I'm really excited

894
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: to try that out seeing how that works. And like

895
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: you said, there's some, um, some qualifiers, some things that

896
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: you need to have cell phone service, et cetera. But

897
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: I think overall, it's a trend that we're gonna we're

898
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: gonna see consistently growing. More and more manufacturers are gonna

899
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: put that out because it makes all the sense in

900
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: the world. Why wouln't you want them? And it's only

901
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna Moore's law. You should know what Moore's law is, right,

902
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: is that the one that anything that's gonna go wrong

903
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: will go wrong. Uh, it could be wrong, but you's

904
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: the technologies cuts in half every year, right, Yeah, every

905
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: eighteen months technology the price of the technology increases, but

906
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: the price decreases. So as more of these show camera

907
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: manufacturers come out with these, you know, send a cell

908
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: phone options, you're gonna see the price go down and

909
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: the technology is going to become cheaper. Yeah, it's it's

910
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: a good thing for consumers. Yeah. Yeah, And I think

911
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: the one I was thinking of the law I was

912
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: thinking of was Murphy's Law. Too many dang laws that

913
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: keeps straight alright. So last question then for our episode

914
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: here on off season trail camera use, and this one

915
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: is from a reader over at wire hunt dot com.

916
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: This comes from Derek and he asks, you know, how

917
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: do you organize your trail camera photos? Um, so I'll

918
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: let's take a stab at first, had and then I'll

919
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: share what I do. Yeah, it's pretty easy. I just create, Um,

920
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: however many properties I have. I create a file on

921
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: my computer and let's say a property one, and on

922
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: property one, then I have it broken down by year,

923
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: so two thousand nine whatever, And then every year I

924
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: create a new file and then I have it broken

925
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: down by buck like the buck that I'm chasing. So

926
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: by property, then by year, then by a buck. Now

927
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: if I have a cool picture, I I you know,

928
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: that's just cool or neat to look at, not necessarily

929
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: helping me with any type of putting together a hit list.

930
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: I'll save that in a different different spot. But yeah,

931
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: property by property, than by year, than by dear, so

932
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: every one of those is a new fuller. Nice. Okay,

933
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: that's pretty close to what I do as well. I've

934
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: got a folder system as well on my computer. I

935
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: do by property and then by year, and then I

936
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: break it down a little bit differently. Here. I've got

937
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: a different folder for each um, each different trail camera location,

938
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: and then within that, I'll dump each new poll, so

939
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: it'll be back scrape August, backscrape October one, backscrape October

940
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: twenty nine or whatever, and I'll just dump those in there.

941
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: But I don't really reference those too often because that's

942
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, will be a thousand pictures in the folder.

943
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: That's kind of it's just a backup just in case

944
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: I want to reference these files again. What I what

945
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: I really am looking at the most is I have

946
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: a buck folder, so it'll be you know, property number one,

947
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen, and then I'll put my two thousand

948
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: thirteen bucks folder, and then within that I will save

949
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: every picture of a two and a half year old

950
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: buck or bigger or older. Because you know, even though

951
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm not targeting two and a half year old bucks,

952
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: I you're they're they're definitely recognizable at that point, and

953
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: so that the following year when they come back, hopefully

954
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: is a three and a half year old. I'll be

955
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: all say, oh, yeah, this one's a shooter now, or

956
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: is a four and a half yearld he's a shooter,

957
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: and I've I can go back and look at his

958
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: pictures back when he's a two and a half year

959
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: old and probably build to identify those. So the deepest

960
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: I've gone is by the you know, shooter bucks or

961
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: two and a half year old bucks are older. And

962
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm starting to you know, have bucks that I've I've

963
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: followed for several years. So I'm gonna start breaking that

964
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: buck folder down into folders for those different shooter bucks too,

965
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: so that I'll have you know, four or five folders

966
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: hopefully for mature deer that I followed for a couple

967
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: of years, and and keep breaking it down. But that's

968
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: the plan for this year. Um And you know, there's

969
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: also a couple of neat websites that have come out

970
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: in the past year or so, um or we'll be

971
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: coming out soon with features that help you organized trail

972
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: camera photos. UM. I know a site that's uh that's

973
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: going to be relaunching here soon. Hunt soft dot com

974
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: is going to have some features like that, I believe soon,

975
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: as well as hunt Force and deer lab Um. All

976
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: these different three services offer different ways for you to

977
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: upload your pictures and analyze them in different ways. So

978
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: we'll probably be talking about some of those in more

979
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: detail in the future, because I think it's pretty neat

980
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: um different ways that you can organize your photos online,

981
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: sort through them, filter them, and learn some different things

982
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: based on looking looking at your photos at an aggregate level.

983
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: So something to think about. Cool beans, Man, Well, what

984
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: do you think anything else that you want to touch on? Well,

985
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: just real quickly when it comes to trail cameras. Now,

986
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: I you know, I wrote a blog earlier this week

987
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: or last week actually about you know, some tips and

988
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: tricks about trail cameras on the nine finger Chronicles dot com.

989
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: But I'll just want to cover one of those real

990
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: quick and that is to be to be anal retentive

991
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 1: about your trail cameras. And that just means make sure

992
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: you have enough battery of life, make sure your trail

993
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: camera is actually taking pictures and transferring them to you

994
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: the SD card, make sure that they are in the

995
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: right location. I mean, just be anal retentive because nothing

996
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: is worse than going in and finding out that your

997
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: computer or your your trail camera did not take pictures

998
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: that pisces me off, especially when it's my fault. Yeah,

999
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: so just be anal and even if you're checking it

1000
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: three or four times, you gotta do it because it's

1001
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: worth it. Awesome tip, so true, so valuable. And uh,

1002
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: I gotta pay attention to the details. That's something that

1003
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm always hammering and talking about is the paying attention

1004
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: to the small things. Um, And that's a perfect example

1005
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: of it. So excellent way to wrap this episode up.

1006
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan. So with that said, I'm gonna take

1007
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,479
Speaker 1: a one quick step back here. Now. I actually had

1008
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: a listener of the podcast send me a message on

1009
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: Facebook that said that, and this is only for people

1010
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: of age, but he said that he's started a drinking

1011
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: game every time that I say that being said, because

1012
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: I guess I say that a lot, so he's taking

1013
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: a drink every time I say that. So I just

1014
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, I just gave him another sip right there.

1015
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: But maybe I will when you say that, maybe the

1016
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: next podcast, I'll take a shot and we'll see how

1017
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: how I'm speeching or speeching. I can't even talk now

1018
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: how I talk. By the end of that, by the

1019
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: end of that podcast. Well, you know, this is a

1020
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: family podcast. I don't know, Maybe I'll just do it

1021
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: with grape juice. There you go. No, I think that's

1022
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: pretty funny, and I've caught myself saying it a handful

1023
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: of times now already today after he mentioned that, and

1024
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: Guilty has charged, Guilty has charged. So all right, So

1025
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: with that being said, I don't know how to transition

1026
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: any other way but that okay. I'm gonna try this though.

1027
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much to everyone out there

1028
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,479
Speaker 1: listening today. Yeah, of course, we're thrilled that you joined

1029
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: us and for dealing with me saying thing is like

1030
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: that being said and all that. So big props for

1031
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: for staking with us for almost an hour here. Um.

1032
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: I know that might not be easy sometimes, but if

1033
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: you have enjoyed the show, you know, we would really,

1034
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: really really appreciate it if you could leave a rating

1035
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 1: or review on iTunes. You know, this of course helps

1036
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: us get the word out about what we're doing, but

1037
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: it also helps other hunters find the show and hopefully,

1038
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Speaker 1: you know, that can help give them an opportunity to

1039
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Speaker 1: learn a thing or two more about becoming a better

1040
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: deer hunter. You know, hopefully we're helping you a little bit,

1041
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: and I'd love to be able to help more people

1042
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: as they grow as deer hunters. And we've actually had

1043
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: twenty one incredible folks leave us a rating already, and man,

1044
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: we really really appreciate that. And I thought i'd share

1045
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: one of those reviews here today. And this comes from

1046
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: quote unquote Big Country, and I don't know if this

1047
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: is a he or she, but Big Countries reviewed is

1048
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1049
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Speaker 1: she says, packed with tons of great info, will definitely

1050
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Speaker 1: change the way I hunt in years to come based

1051
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Speaker 1: on all the great tips and strategies provided. It's also

1052
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Speaker 1: a lot of fun listen to and hear all the

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Speaker 1: to you a Big Country. We will definitely keep it coming,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we really appreciate you saying that, and

1056
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Speaker 1: everyone else out there who's left to review big thanks um.

1057
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Speaker 1: You know, if you'd like to leave a review of

1058
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Speaker 1: your own, which maybe will someday read on the air too,

1059
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Speaker 1: you can head to iTunes right now and search for

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Speaker 1: the Wired Hunt podcast. Click on our little Wired Hunt

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Speaker 1: I'll include all the links for different things we mentioned today,

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Speaker 1: as well as a handful of other articles or links

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Speaker 1: to articles um that we've written on Wired to Hunt

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Speaker 1: that Dan mentioned on his blog The Nine Finger Chronicles.

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Speaker 1: sign up there. So thanks again wire hunt Nation. Until

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