Speaker 1: Bojo reword him.
Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Buddy Peace. I am a producer
Speaker 2: and editor, a DJ and music maker, true fushnik and
Speaker 2: for intro and outro purposes and temporarily standing in for
Speaker 2: a regular host and proud creator of this particular podcast.
Speaker 2: Mister Brett Goldstein, as Selene's song once said, I believe
Speaker 2: that a movie is a song. When it's all said
Speaker 2: and done, it has to move like a song. We
Speaker 2: talk about rhythm, we talk about tone. It just takes
Speaker 2: a really long time to make this song. But then
Speaker 2: I think of the song You Suffer by an Apalm Death,
Speaker 2: which is only one point three one six seconds long,
Speaker 2: and all the effort seems worthy, you know throughe that Selene.
Speaker 2: Every week Brett invites a guest on. He tells them
Speaker 2: they've died and then talks to them about their life
Speaker 2: through the medium of film. But this week we are
Speaker 2: revisiting an earlier episode of the podcast while we take
Speaker 2: an ever so quick break. Yes, indeed, is that time
Speaker 2: once more for a films to be buried with rewind Classic.
Speaker 2: This rewind is from November nineteenth, twenty twenty, originally episode
Speaker 2: one two to two, featuring comedian podcaster and writer Keema Bob.
Speaker 2: If you're unfamiliar with Kima, this is a delightful introduction
Speaker 2: to someone who has a strong foundation in the world
Speaker 2: of comedy and podcasting, and is just pure fun from
Speaker 2: the beginning. In the deciding of the lineup for these
Speaker 2: Rewine classic episodes, it's also lovely to look around in
Speaker 2: the present and see that guests are still out there
Speaker 2: doing great things. Bear in mind this episode is over
Speaker 2: three years old at this point, so I can safely
Speaker 2: say that you can enjoy Keema in a variety of media,
Speaker 2: be it stand up shows, television or podcasts. This episode,
Speaker 2: in particular, is a ton of fun going into Keieman's
Speaker 2: experience working with show friend Nish Kumar, death maths, hippie
Speaker 2: tripping and candy flipping, celebrating our inner babies, and crying
Speaker 2: into fires. Let me take this opportunity to also remind
Speaker 2: you that Brett has a Patreon page for the podcast,
Speaker 2: upon which you get a bonus section on every episode
Speaker 2: with a secret from each guest, more questions, and a
Speaker 2: video of each episode which looks very fresh. Indeed, there
Speaker 2: are a selection of tears on there too, and on
Speaker 2: the uppermost tiers. I make you a cinematic soundtrack mixtape
Speaker 2: each month with full track list that I reckon you'll
Speaker 2: enjoy very much. So if you're a supporting nature and
Speaker 2: feel like some extras from this show, you'll find them
Speaker 2: all there. So that is it for now. Let's get
Speaker 2: you settled in for a really fun look back at
Speaker 2: a lovely, joyful episode with the wonderful Keema Bob. All right,
Speaker 2: catch you at the end for a quick sign off,
Speaker 2: But for now, please enjoy episode one two, two Fire,
Speaker 2: Episode two, nine and two of Films to be Buried With.
Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It
Speaker 3: is I Bett Goldstein and I'm joined today by a comedian,
Speaker 3: a writer, a sketch show maverick, a rapper about Dr Fauci,
Speaker 3: a singer, a songwriter, a guilty feminist, a podcaster, a hero,
Speaker 3: a legend write on the toilet, this show, A yes,
Speaker 3: I stand up beyond her own lifetime, be remembered forever,
Speaker 3: one of the greats to this show. It's the one
Speaker 3: that I came about.
Speaker 4: Wow, Wow, I clapping myself. Thank you. And there are
Speaker 4: moments in life where you say, how much does this
Speaker 4: person respect me? And based off of that introduction, more
Speaker 4: than I respect myself phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm a huge fan. I'm very grateful to
Speaker 3: you for doing this show. Thank you for your time.
Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here. It's exciting. I will say
Speaker 4: before we get into it, this was so tough because
Speaker 4: I think I have like a horrible memory or something.
Speaker 4: I think I just watch things, I let them happen
Speaker 4: like I enjoy them, and and I just keep it moving.
Speaker 4: So this was really kind of like digging into like
Speaker 4: the vault, you know, Like I've always been the kind
Speaker 4: of person that if you ask me if I have
Speaker 4: a favorite movie, I'll be like, no, that's what I say.
Speaker 3: I'd say no, always with the same timing on the pause,
Speaker 3: no matter where or when that question is up.
Speaker 4: Yes, no.
Speaker 3: And that's because you don't remember any film you've seen,
Speaker 3: or because you don't wish to be tied to any
Speaker 3: moment in time. You're like doctor who.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to move through it, baby, I'm
Speaker 4: just always flowing. I think there's some there are some standouts,
Speaker 4: but for a while, I never watched a movie more
Speaker 4: than once. I don't know, because for me, I think
Speaker 4: movies and shows are about escapism to an extent, It's
Speaker 4: about the story, like where is this going to take me?
Speaker 4: And it took me until fairly recently to begin to
Speaker 4: appreciate other things about them and other elements of them.
Speaker 4: So it's not just about you know, the plot of
Speaker 4: it and what I don't know and what I can't
Speaker 4: figure out, but like there are other elements to things, right,
Speaker 4: so how beautiful they are? And then like digging into
Speaker 4: the writing, like why was that so great? You know?
Speaker 4: But I think for a while I was just like,
Speaker 4: take me out of my life?
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to make films?
Speaker 4: So I'm in a kind of I'm in a TV
Speaker 4: show place. I kind of like the like episodic structure
Speaker 4: of things where I feel like a film like it's
Speaker 4: like you have to encapsulate something ideally in like ninety minutes.
Speaker 4: You know some people that get really like bold and
Speaker 4: they're like, do you know what this is? Three hours?
Speaker 4: Enjoy it? And that's madness to me. But yeah, so
Speaker 4: the the idea of like beginning something and ending it
Speaker 4: in ninety minutes, as opposed to an exploration that could
Speaker 4: go on for seasons, I think it just sounds like
Speaker 4: so daunting.
Speaker 3: Yes, I do like an ending. I like to know
Speaker 3: what the end is.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The fear with the TV shows if you don't know
Speaker 3: what the end is, if you're told, yeah, this could
Speaker 3: run and run. I go, oh that sounds bad.
Speaker 4: Then how long am I? How long am I going
Speaker 4: to have to watch this?
Speaker 3: Hey? How long am and? How long you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to string this out? But yeah, as we saw in
Speaker 3: the show Smallville, you can keep coming up with stuff.
Speaker 4: Did we see that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Then did I see that? You know? I know it's
Speaker 4: about like Superman in a small town, right, it's.
Speaker 3: About young, young Superman. And but what impressed me is
Speaker 3: I think it was nine seasons and the end is
Speaker 3: Lexley from Superman and not going to be best friends
Speaker 3: anymore because they were, but they managed for nine years
Speaker 3: to to be pals, to keep coming up with a
Speaker 3: little bit more. He's a little bit more, but they
Speaker 3: still he still hasn't figured it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's good bad stuff.
Speaker 3: Tell me this. So you you've just finished working on
Speaker 3: the Toilet Nis, which I yeah, episode of Yeah.
Speaker 4: So what it's important to note is that's not what
Speaker 4: it's called.
Speaker 3: Right, what was it called?
Speaker 4: It's called Hello America. Hello, okay, okay, any toilet Nish
Speaker 4: And yeah, so it was a really nice experience. Like
Speaker 4: n is a lovely person to work with, and I
Speaker 4: think a lovely person to write for, especially as far
Speaker 4: as like topical, you know, and like politically things go, like,
Speaker 4: it's really nice to write for, like a man of
Speaker 4: color who's not afraid to be like this is racist,
Speaker 4: because that's one of my favorite things to do.
Speaker 3: In fact, tell me this because people who listen to
Speaker 3: the podcast regularly. Nishkuma is a regular on the podcast.
Speaker 3: He's been more episodes than bad brand books.
Speaker 4: How can you even? How could you do this? A
Speaker 4: million times?
Speaker 3: We did end of year specials, We did stuff like
Speaker 3: that together. But the question I have for you, having
Speaker 3: worked on the brilliant Hello America on Quibi tell us secretly,
Speaker 3: what's niche like as like a boss?
Speaker 4: I would say, very similar to what he's like as
Speaker 4: a person, which is like really nice. Do you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Because I've worked with people I know, right,
Speaker 4: you're hoping to get a bit more juicy. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: just quite a chill dude. And I was like, I
Speaker 4: was like, this guy's gonna be a tyrant, and he refused.
Speaker 4: He refused the entire time. I think what I really
Speaker 4: respected about like the way that he was like managing
Speaker 4: the space, because like, I want to be in charge
Speaker 4: of something one day, and so every person that I
Speaker 4: work with work for, I try to like learn something
Speaker 4: from them, and I think something that, oh, you're gonna
Speaker 4: hate this, You're gonna hate this. Something that he kind
Speaker 4: of showed was like how to be the leader of
Speaker 4: something and make everyone feel important, smart, you know, and
Speaker 4: equal in the space and the team besides me, they'd
Speaker 4: work together on like the Mash Report. They have like
Speaker 4: a similar I mean everyone's British and they have like
Speaker 4: a similar like interest. I hate politics. I now know
Speaker 4: more about them than ever. I also hate that now. Yeah, so,
Speaker 4: but I think he did a great job of like
Speaker 4: keeping me in the loop. So they would talk about
Speaker 4: some random British guy from the eighties. I don't know
Speaker 4: who that is. I wasn't alive then or here. Then
Speaker 4: he'd be like, by the way, Kima Neil Kinnick ran
Speaker 4: for Prime Minister in nineteen eighty seven, and I'd be like, oh, thanks,
Speaker 4: because I was like, am I young, dumb? Or American.
Speaker 4: That's always like, I'm just like, why don't I know?
Speaker 3: This is checking in with the three? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then go oh fool young an American, A relief,
Speaker 4: A relief.
Speaker 3: Tell me this because I don't know this about you.
Speaker 3: You're from Texas, right yeah? And how long have you
Speaker 3: been here? And when did you move? And I mean
Speaker 3: that's the same question in a way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're similar but different. I've been here for four years.
Speaker 4: September twenty sixteen is when I came over.
Speaker 3: Did you come here for comedy?
Speaker 4: I came here to dig into TV? Well, actually, I
Speaker 4: feel like that's the more like honorable way to put it,
Speaker 4: if you will. I came here because I was in
Speaker 4: LA before this, and my life was a fucking mess.
Speaker 4: I felt very directionless. I was doing a lot of
Speaker 4: what the kids call I think it's called like candy
Speaker 4: flipping or hippie tripping. I don't know. It's when you
Speaker 4: do molly and shrooms at the same time, great combination.
Speaker 4: But I didn't really know anyone who was doing anything
Speaker 4: like I wanted to do. I had some friends in
Speaker 4: stand up, but they were doing what the kids call
Speaker 4: smoking a shit ton of weed, right, yeah, do you
Speaker 4: how are you familiar? And I can't say that. I
Speaker 4: also was not doing that. I studied some improv out
Speaker 4: there and that was lovely, but it just, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I just didn't feel like I was on the right path.
Speaker 4: And for me, structure has always been like quite helpful.
Speaker 4: So I decided to go to school because I was like,
Speaker 4: I'd like to write shows and be in them, and
Speaker 4: I don't know about this industry at all. And I
Speaker 4: studied abroad in London before, which is how I knew
Speaker 4: that it was great. I also knew that it was
Speaker 4: far away from my problematic family, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, if you can't find a way
Speaker 4: to establish healthy boundaries, what you can do is move
Speaker 4: to another country.
Speaker 3: Ex nice.
Speaker 4: It was brilliant, so brilliant, still pretty effective. The time
Speaker 4: difference it just throws everyone off. Yeah, and they go,
Speaker 4: they go, well, I don't know if I should call
Speaker 4: because I don't know what time it is, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: it was too late, That's what it was. It was
Speaker 4: too late. But yeah, so it's it was really helpful.
Speaker 4: So I went to school. I dug into stand up
Speaker 4: a bit more, graduated from a m A and TV program,
Speaker 4: realized that I'm not meant to be on that side
Speaker 4: of production because I'm not a good office lady. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's just been a weird full circle and I
Speaker 4: feel like, yeah, it was a great choice. I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm finding like where I'm supposed to be and
Speaker 4: I'm proud of myself for taking that leap. You know. Also,
Speaker 4: not candy tripping or hippie flipping.
Speaker 3: Candy candy tripping hippy flipping sounds fucking.
Speaker 4: Brilliant in moderation. In moderation.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I've forgotten to tell you something.
Speaker 4: Okay, Ah shit, I'm terrified.
Speaker 3: Oh oh no, no, I should have I should have
Speaker 3: said it before. Actually, oh no, we've just been chatting away.
Speaker 4: Having a good time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we enjoy I'm certainly enjoying myself. But I've had
Speaker 3: this in my back pocket the whole time. I guess, Oh,
Speaker 3: do you know what it's absolutely when you hear it,
Speaker 3: you're going to be like, it's so weird. You didn't
Speaker 3: open with that, and I can't argue with that. Oh man, yeah.
Speaker 4: You're gotta tell me. I'm over here.
Speaker 3: I should tell you die. Yeah, No, I should tell
Speaker 3: you you're not just dying, You've you've died. You've died.
Speaker 4: That's huge.
Speaker 3: It's big, It's undoubtedly big. Yeah, how did you die?
Speaker 4: Ideally, not violently agree. I feel like it's a sexy
Speaker 4: old death. Right. So I'm in like my eighties, seventies, eighties,
Speaker 4: and I like a rich old white man have had
Speaker 4: a heart attack by bhoning my much younger lover. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: good vibes good.
Speaker 3: It's a lovely way to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so a kind of like coming and going.
Speaker 3: Coming and going. Yeah, rich white man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the vibe.
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful day. That's my favorite one.
Speaker 4: I think so because I think people don't think that.
Speaker 4: Ladies who were you know, geriatric, are you know, trying
Speaker 4: to get it in. But I'm determined.
Speaker 3: How long have you been with your young lover?
Speaker 4: Well it was after a string of divorces, okay, and
Speaker 4: so this was a kind of more recent love affair
Speaker 4: because I go through them so quickly.
Speaker 3: And I don't listen. I don't want to say this,
Speaker 3: but the press, certainly will was the lover with you
Speaker 3: because they loved you or for your money.
Speaker 4: It was a combo because I'm intoxicating, right, But also
Speaker 4: with the financial aspect, you know. Yeah, and that's how
Speaker 4: you do it. You gotta encircle in passion and desire,
Speaker 4: just a confusion of love and.
Speaker 3: Lust and then drop dead underneath them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they can never move.
Speaker 3: On well because they're stuck in illegal back to for
Speaker 3: a very long time trying to sort the money from you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the estate the state is the largest.
Speaker 3: State litigious nightmare. That turns out to me because you've
Speaker 3: got how many kids who are also fighting over it?
Speaker 4: So many Because at one point I get so rich
Speaker 4: that I decide that what I want to do is
Speaker 4: do a lot of teenage adoption things so that people
Speaker 4: like I just want to get more people in on
Speaker 4: my will. So you know, there are a lot of
Speaker 4: like kids, you know out there. They're sixteen, they're seventeen,
Speaker 4: and they're like, I'm not going to find the forever family.
Speaker 4: And I say, hey, I'm not a great mom, but
Speaker 4: I am rich, so you can come be in my family.
Speaker 4: I'll send you to whatever you want if you want
Speaker 4: to go to college or just like invest in you
Speaker 4: and you can be my baby or not. But what
Speaker 4: you will be is a bit rich. Now.
Speaker 3: So you've had so many teenage adopted kids. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: your young lover in a way once. Yeah, if they
Speaker 3: ever do manage to divide up the estate, it's not
Speaker 3: actually that much.
Speaker 4: It's about they haven't done the math because they're a
Speaker 4: bit dumb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a shame because they've sort of all of them,
Speaker 3: including the young lover, have kind of, yeah, sort of
Speaker 3: gambled their entire future on your will and.
Speaker 4: Well, you know that's not that's not on me.
Speaker 3: So that's not nothing, that's not nothing. But a lovely man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred. I'd say several meals because they need
Speaker 4: to learn how to budget.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could have like seven Nando's lovely time.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: They could go to Spain. Yes, they get there, they'd
Speaker 3: be out of money.
Speaker 4: But they can't do anything there but the airport. Right,
Speaker 4: they might be able to get like a pastry and coffee,
Speaker 4: classic thing to do in Spain. Doesn't happen anywhere else.
Speaker 4: But they could do that in the airport.
Speaker 3: And then just walk to the beach. I would do that.
Speaker 3: Oh God, I hope I'm one of your teenage ye.
Speaker 4: I'd say never too old to be adopted as a
Speaker 4: teen Thank you?
Speaker 3: Do you worry about death, I used to more.
Speaker 4: I think it does feel like this like looming dark thing, right,
Speaker 4: But I think when I was younger, I was really
Speaker 4: really concerned with it. And I don't know why. But
Speaker 4: there was one night where my dad was dropping me
Speaker 4: off at my grandma's house to spend the night, and
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want you to go, because
Speaker 4: what if you die? And he said, and you could
Speaker 4: tell like he was just really like thinking on his feet.
Speaker 4: He said, probably the best and worst thing, right, And
Speaker 4: he goes, hey, I'm not gonna die for a long time.
Speaker 4: First of all, you don't know that, Choason know that, right,
Speaker 4: And he goes, hell, do you now? And I say eight?
Speaker 4: And then he goes, okay, well I'm not gonna die
Speaker 4: until you're eleven times eight. He just does math at
Speaker 4: this point, he just does math and he goes, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna die until you're eighty eight. That is that's nonsense,
Speaker 4: absolute nonsense. And at that point and then so then
Speaker 4: I was a bit soothed, but I just started like
Speaker 4: a countdown. Oh god, yeah, yeah, what it's just Dad Brandon.
Speaker 4: He was like, oh shit, like I don't know what
Speaker 4: to do with this, and he was like, well, I
Speaker 4: will die, but not today, ha ha, not today.
Speaker 3: Do you think he said the math spit to kind
Speaker 3: of confuse you and hope that it would keep your
Speaker 3: brain busy eleven times eight and you'd spend a week
Speaker 3: trying to like, what.
Speaker 4: Is that math?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 4: Is that really eighty eight? Yeah? It was weird. It
Speaker 4: was weird, but say a bit less concerned.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so far he stuck to it.
Speaker 4: Because I'm not eighty eight. Yeah, yeah, those are the
Speaker 4: rules at this point, he is obligated, I'd say, probably legally.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm definitely. So you say you stopped worrying about
Speaker 3: it so much? Is it because you're getting you realize
Speaker 3: eighty eight is quite far away.
Speaker 4: I think it's a thought that I somewhat avoid, but
Speaker 4: then I realized. I think when I was younger, I
Speaker 4: had this thought. It feels kind of egotistical. I was
Speaker 4: just like, I don't want to end. I don't want
Speaker 4: to end, which is a weird one. But I think
Speaker 4: as I've started to think about like purpose a bit
Speaker 4: more like why what am I meant to be doing here?
Speaker 4: What am I doing? I feel more are led by
Speaker 4: that and less afraid of dying. Do you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So I'm like, as long as I do
Speaker 4: or pursue what I feel like I'm meant to do,
Speaker 4: you know, then we're okay. But I do I think
Speaker 4: it's a thought I try to avoid.
Speaker 3: I guess, what's your special purpose?
Speaker 4: I feel like inviting others to heal through healing myself,
Speaker 4: and that part of that is self acceptance and self awareness, right,
Speaker 4: And I think that until we acknowledge and own our
Speaker 4: whole story, right, our whole life, we're not able to
Speaker 4: truly like accept ourselves or be aware of ourselves. So
Speaker 4: just kind of a mishmash of that, I think. And
Speaker 4: I feel like the stand Up for Me is a
Speaker 4: great starting place in that, because my stuff, at least
Speaker 4: is kind of about understanding myself and the world around
Speaker 4: me and kind of owning the weird and crazy shit
Speaker 4: that I do or that I am, and inviting others
Speaker 4: to see that. I don't know, do you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's it's around there, and I think I'm
Speaker 4: always kind of zeroing in on it more and more,
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's around that, I think, because I think
Speaker 4: just we're all sad little babies wrapped in like society's conditioning,
Speaker 4: you know, and when you meet someone and they're like
Speaker 4: really defensive or mean or maybe even like overly giving,
Speaker 4: you know, like underneath all that, it's just like a
Speaker 4: sad little baby.
Speaker 3: I totally totally get that. And I have a thing
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm sure you have this irrational disliking a people
Speaker 3: where it's like I've got in why I don't like this.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's someone at the gym. I got no
Speaker 3: literally no reason to hate it. He's done nothing, but
Speaker 3: he talks to you know what I mean, likes there's
Speaker 3: no cry, but I'm sickened by him.
Speaker 4: And maybe your baby.
Speaker 3: Well no, And then the other day I saw his baby.
Speaker 3: I saw okay baby, and suddenly I'm like, I love
Speaker 3: him and I want to protect Yeah, because I just
Speaker 3: saw his face. He was doing a stretch and he
Speaker 3: saw he saw a dog and he did this face
Speaker 3: like his face went all like a little baby when
Speaker 3: he saw the.
Speaker 4: Dog, like did he love the dog? Was afraid of
Speaker 4: the dog.
Speaker 3: He was like kind of slightly in awe of the dog.
Speaker 3: He was like a dog. And I thought, yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: And I can see you're just a sad little baby,
Speaker 3: and I'm.
Speaker 4: Sorry that it's a weird one. And it's always like
Speaker 4: a part of that for me is trying to understand
Speaker 4: myself little baby better because there are some people where
Speaker 4: I have that feeling about them and I go, are
Speaker 4: you bad? Or am I bad? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, and then sometimes the answer is like neither,
Speaker 4: but just my sad little baby is perturbed by this person.
Speaker 4: There's one person who won't like me the way I
Speaker 4: like to be liked, who doesn't talk to me, and
Speaker 4: she doesn't talk to me bad, but she doesn't talk
Speaker 4: to me how I need to be talked to, like
Speaker 4: I like to be affirmed, and she just won't do it,
Speaker 4: and it kills me. It kurls me, and I can't tell.
Speaker 4: I'm still like is this my fault? Or like are
Speaker 4: you withholding? Or like am I just do? I just
Speaker 4: need something from you that you're not meant to get.
Speaker 3: Probably without you know, and remind you of your mom
Speaker 3: or your dad?
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Do you know the spot? You've got it? You know
Speaker 3: that phrase? No? So I think it's a thing from
Speaker 3: a recovery program, which is that's part And I think
Speaker 3: this with the guy at the gym. It's like if
Speaker 3: you if you hate someone or something really annoys you
Speaker 3: and you're like that fucking fucking person, ninety percent of
Speaker 3: the time, it is because actually they're like you, what
Speaker 3: the thing that's annoying you is something you fear about yourself?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so.
Speaker 3: That's the question I'm always asking myself when when I
Speaker 3: irrastally hate someone, I'm like, why is it because I
Speaker 3: think that they're the worst part of me? They're the
Speaker 3: thing I'm afraid I am.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh one hundred percent. And it's like you go,
Speaker 4: you go, what's my deal? And then when you can't
Speaker 4: figure it out? That is the worst. Oh, it's the
Speaker 4: worst because I don't like to not like people. It
Speaker 4: makes me feel quite bad. But I think that's also
Speaker 4: problematic because you're not meant to really like like everyone
Speaker 4: or like love everyone. So it's just kind of I
Speaker 4: don't know, but yeah, so digging into that and sorting
Speaker 4: that shit out, get in to know my baby and
Speaker 4: inviting other people to like, get to know their baby,
Speaker 4: because world just babies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you got to find a baby. If you
Speaker 3: find someone difficult, look for their baby. That's what I say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, apout the baby, there's the baby.
Speaker 3: And sometimes it's just in their face when they don't
Speaker 3: know you're looking.
Speaker 4: When they when they when they see a dog, when they.
Speaker 3: See a dog. Sure, in the telling the story, I
Speaker 3: realize that I'm quite a creepy guy at the gym
Speaker 3: is just staring at a guy.
Speaker 4: I don't know what happens at the gym, So I
Speaker 4: just assumed that was very normal to do.
Speaker 3: Just secretly hate someone across the gym.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ah, that's what people do.
Speaker 3: Like lifting, lifting and hating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's how you push it up, right, Like
Speaker 4: when you're like, I don't know if I have it
Speaker 4: in men that guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Motivation.
Speaker 3: Do you think there's enough to life?
Speaker 4: It's a weird one. I can't. I can't really decide.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like humans are so fucking basic.
Speaker 4: I just feel like we could be doing better, like together,
Speaker 4: you know, in like this one. So when I think
Speaker 4: about like an after one, I'm stuck between the idea
Speaker 4: of us like coming back or it's just going into
Speaker 4: like the earth, do you know what I mean. I'm like,
Speaker 4: did trees used to be people?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So stuck between that and the idea.
Speaker 3: Of trees are people who've been punished and frozen into trees.
Speaker 3: Now the trees standing there screaming at us, but we
Speaker 3: can't hear them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well is it good or is it bad? You know?
Speaker 4: And I think the like kind of heaven and hell?
Speaker 3: This thing.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's a bit too simple and weird.
Speaker 4: You know. Maybe I just feel like that because of
Speaker 4: the good place. I was like, whoa ted dancing really
Speaker 4: turned my whole idea of that stuff upside down. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like it's just it's not simple.
Speaker 3: Well came it turns out? Is there is a heaven?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Am I in it because I died?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in it. And it's got all your favorite stuff.
Speaker 3: It's got rooms, it's got it's got music.
Speaker 4: Young lovers, young are their young lovers.
Speaker 3: There's a stack of young lovers. There's teenagers who won't yeah, adopted.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm not going to have sex with them.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to have sex with those ones.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's every restaurant you could think of, and all the
Speaker 3: prices are one hundred quid, which is all the money
Speaker 3: from your will. But that replenishes. It's got it all,
Speaker 3: but in this heaven they're obsessed, obsessed with film wow,
Speaker 3: and they won't know about your life. But they won't
Speaker 3: know about your life through film wow. First thing they
Speaker 3: ask you, what's the first film you remember seeing? Chemopop?
Speaker 4: Well, well, first of all, after life people, thank you
Speaker 4: for taking an interest?
Speaker 3: Oh great, we've been following you for years?
Speaker 4: Is wow?
Speaker 3: I would you like to hear you guys?
Speaker 4: Are you guys? Are hoo? So the first movie that
Speaker 4: I have supposedly seen was The Lion King. So I
Speaker 4: am told that my mother brought me to the movies
Speaker 4: as a baby. And though yeah, what a controversial decision
Speaker 4: on her part, Yes, and though I don't remember that viewing,
Speaker 4: every time I watch it and every time I have
Speaker 4: watched it since then, I do feel a kind of
Speaker 4: like significance of that, if that makes sense. So it
Speaker 4: does feel like the first movie I've ever seen of that,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That's fucking great. Well, so you were proper babies like
Speaker 3: a mother and baby screening or justice screening?
Speaker 4: Who even knows. I feel like she was like that
Speaker 4: bold woman who was like, let's take this baby to
Speaker 4: the movies. Yeah, it's a weird one.
Speaker 3: Did she say you were well behaved? Because I'd have
Speaker 3: issues with this guy. Now.
Speaker 4: She didn't even mention my beha, you're bad or good?
Speaker 4: I don't know if she cared.
Speaker 3: I'd like to know the answer to that. What's it?
Speaker 3: What an opening movie?
Speaker 4: Let's call her up? Yeah? Why not? I think I.
Speaker 3: Also want to know if when in the opening sequence
Speaker 3: of the Thanking, when they held up Simba, if.
Speaker 4: She held she also held me out.
Speaker 3: To the screen, call her now, get her on.
Speaker 4: She's like, Kate Kima, you are the you are a
Speaker 4: little baby. I want to see if this Yeah, so
Speaker 4: it did. It came out in nineteen ninety four, and
Speaker 4: I was born in nineteen ninety four, so I feel
Speaker 4: like I had to been relatively fresh.
Speaker 3: Oh you're not going to call your mom?
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, because of the time difference. It's just
Speaker 4: because of the time difference. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That keeps paying off, don't it. What's the film that
Speaker 3: made you cry? The vice?
Speaker 4: I would say, call me by your name, hit me
Speaker 4: with huge tears at the end. And in the fire, Yeah,
Speaker 4: everyone's crying into the fire. I feel like the fire
Speaker 4: lasts long enough for you to like, like he's crying
Speaker 4: into it. Your you're just like mirroring him, You're just
Speaker 4: like crying back at him. You guys are having a
Speaker 4: bit of a tear contest. And the fire lasts for
Speaker 4: a long time, but it's like as long as you
Speaker 4: need it to. Then the movie goes off and you
Speaker 4: just sit in there and you're like, love. It doesn't
Speaker 4: always go how how you wish, but it can change
Speaker 4: your life forever. And then you go I want that,
Speaker 4: and you go have I had that? And then you
Speaker 4: go no, And then you go no, I'm gonna cry
Speaker 4: some more for what is missing?
Speaker 3: Have you had that? Since? No?
Speaker 4: Sad, there's still time.
Speaker 3: Oh you've got to your ata.
Speaker 4: I think yeah.
Speaker 3: But ideally that's how you have that sort of genetic
Speaker 3: in your family. You'll die.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. That's when that's when it happens for us.
Speaker 4: That's when it goes to. But I feel like, ideally
Speaker 4: it would have happened when I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: sixteen year old boy at my like family home in Italy.
Speaker 3: You think it, Yeah, it would have been ideal with
Speaker 3: an older sort of inappropriate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go, hey, is this is this age gap incorrect?
Speaker 4: Is this is this is this naughty?
Speaker 3: We encourage it.
Speaker 4: No, it's cool. It's eighties or nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you cry a lot?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I was thinking about this quite recently. There's
Speaker 4: a special kind of I think relationship you have to
Speaker 4: have with people that you like watch movies with where
Speaker 4: you're comfortable.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? Because what I end
Speaker 4: up doing with some of my friends, it's just a
Speaker 4: little off to the side where it's just like, wipe it.
Speaker 4: You gotta give it a little a little wipe. Whereas
Speaker 4: when I'm watching a movie with like my mom or
Speaker 4: my grandma, generally it'll like hit us all at like
Speaker 4: the same point and then we're just like quietly, like
Speaker 4: we're looking at each other, be like like I can
Speaker 4: always tell in a movie, like watching a movie with
Speaker 4: my mom when she's gonna do it, you know, like
Speaker 4: oh but yeah, oh yeah, oh oh oh yeah, that's
Speaker 4: how I feel when I'm gonna cry, like oh yeah, release,
Speaker 4: release those tears are Yeah.
Speaker 3: What film scared you the most.
Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of horror or thriller. I don't
Speaker 4: like to be thrilled. You can do all the murdering
Speaker 4: in the world, but if you add like a thrilling element.
Speaker 4: I'm very uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: You just want cold, brutal murders with any suspense.
Speaker 4: No suspense. I can't take it. I'm too fragile. I
Speaker 4: think growing up watching like seeing there's like nightmare on
Speaker 4: Elm Street, like Freddy Krueger vibes really unsettling, really unsettling,
Speaker 4: and like the idea of something like killing you in
Speaker 4: your sleep, because how do you avoid that?
Speaker 3: You have to stay awake? What do you know?
Speaker 4: What I mean? So now you can't sleep because you
Speaker 4: might get killed in it. I think sometimes in the
Speaker 4: scary movies it's like, don't go toward that sound. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But in that it's like
Speaker 4: be awake all the time.
Speaker 3: You should see well you shouldn't. Paranormal activity. You ever
Speaker 3: seen that?
Speaker 4: No, I don't want to see that.
Speaker 3: The message of that one is don't go to bed
Speaker 3: with anyone else in your bed because they might be
Speaker 3: sort of possessed demon while you sleep, standing by the bed,
Speaker 3: just watching your sleep. You don't want that, No, you don't.
Speaker 4: But all the sleep.
Speaker 3: Death yeaherable because you're vulnerable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your brain is in a different waves. And not
Speaker 4: everyone I do, but not everyone sleeps with a weapon
Speaker 4: in hand.
Speaker 3: What's the exact weapon?
Speaker 4: Just a knife? Butter a butter one. So I probably
Speaker 4: shouldn't have even admit that it's not that good.
Speaker 3: But that's better. If you roll onto it, you're putting
Speaker 3: gonna be right. But it's still cold.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a bit of a yeah. Yeah, I just
Speaker 4: gotta hope I'm about to get murdered by butter and
Speaker 4: then that will be good.
Speaker 3: Well, so, okay, that's fascinating. What film is not critically acclaimed?
Speaker 3: Most people don't like it? Yeah, you love it unconditionally.
Speaker 4: That's heavy feelings to put upon such films, right, yeah, unconditionally. Wow,
Speaker 4: that's big. Do you see a movie forty three?
Speaker 3: Oh? Wow?
Speaker 4: Have you seen it?
Speaker 3: That is a huge and bold answer, and I respect
Speaker 3: you for it.
Speaker 4: I feel like some people are like not into it weirdly,
Speaker 4: and I just think it's a silly mishmash of crazy
Speaker 4: things and I'm here for I support it. I think
Speaker 4: it's really funny. I think it brings together like it
Speaker 4: gets so weird love a love weird. Like here's like
Speaker 4: the level of like acceptable weirdness, and I'm like, ramp
Speaker 4: it up. Do you know what I mean? Let's take
Speaker 4: it boom. Okay, people are comfortable with the weirdness on seven. Hey,
Speaker 4: I want to see it at fifteen please, Yeah. It
Speaker 4: was on forty three, which is just beyond so I
Speaker 4: was here for that. Yeah, you got to see a
Speaker 4: lot of strange stuff.
Speaker 3: Since Hugh Jackman have bollocks on his neck.
Speaker 4: Yes he did, he did. There was a testicle neck
Speaker 4: thing going on. A fun moment with like parents trying
Speaker 4: to give the kid like a high school experience or
Speaker 4: whatever by like bullying them, which is just so fun's
Speaker 4: they're like, he's homeschooled, and then it kind of escalates
Speaker 4: where trying to give him like romantic experiences or whatever,
Speaker 4: which is just fucking weird. And they have like neighbors
Speaker 4: over and they're describing to them how he has like
Speaker 4: a girlfriend, and then he's like, oh, my girlfriend is here,
Speaker 4: and then it's like a face on a broom and
Speaker 4: then they're like they're like, oh, what a pretty girl,
Speaker 4: and and he's like thank you with the face of
Speaker 4: It's just fun stuff. But yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 4: feel like people hate things all the time, but critics,
Speaker 4: critics can suck my butt. That's what I tell him.
Speaker 4: But not. If they're gonna like that, then I say, well,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to do something else.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to suck a different part of me.
Speaker 4: Yeah that you don't want to suck. Yeah, how about that, critics,
Speaker 4: But whatever they have to do, it involves sucking.
Speaker 3: That's the only way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dumb, No, No, it's tough, niees niees ah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's tough, but it's surprice. It's the price they have
Speaker 4: to pay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the film that you used to love? You
Speaker 3: loved it, and then you've watched it recently and you've
Speaker 3: got no. No, I don't love this anymore.
Speaker 4: It's tough because I feel like there are things politically
Speaker 4: that I'm supposed to not stand up, but sometimes you
Speaker 4: could just let it go. So I feel like politically
Speaker 4: tropic Thunder might be one, but I still love it,
Speaker 4: so I'm not I'm not willing to let that go.
Speaker 4: When I was young, and I don't want to be
Speaker 4: judged by you. I'm not going to have it. I'm
Speaker 4: not going to have judge from forty three. No, don't
Speaker 4: you even try.
Speaker 3: I'm not even started on judge.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm judging myself.
Speaker 3: Maybe you need to find a little baby in me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's judging you and it's actually the baby inside it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, baby inception it is. We know the Scary Movie franchise.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm actually a massive fan of it.
Speaker 4: Well that's tough. That's tough. So I think watching the
Speaker 4: first one, I found it like so funny. Right, I'm
Speaker 4: relatively young at the time, and the humor is just
Speaker 4: ha ha ha. And then you you look at them.
Speaker 4: I don't remember which one it was. There was this
Speaker 4: whole like plot point around a guy at this I
Speaker 4: guess house that they're at having like a tiny hand yeah,
Speaker 4: and then you just go, that's not a thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's it's not And then I forget someone like smokes
Speaker 4: maybe they smoke a bit of a reefer, and then
Speaker 4: they get like I don't know if they have sex
Speaker 4: with the weed or they have like a giant dick
Speaker 4: or something. But then there's like all this jizz and
Speaker 4: you just go, m Also, something that they did I
Speaker 4: think it was the first Scary movie was they had
Speaker 4: like I want to say, Carmen Elektra, I don't know,
Speaker 4: one of those like hot ladies from the like nineties
Speaker 4: or whatever. She was running from like the Murderer, and
Speaker 4: one of the things that was, like the whole point
Speaker 4: of the scene is like her boobs are bouncing as
Speaker 4: she's like running, and like that just is like prolonged
Speaker 4: or whatever. And so I guess things like that, you go, well,
Speaker 4: this is a bit I don't know. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 4: even like it's gross, not even like it's misogynists, but
Speaker 4: I'm just like there's not enough payoff, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Yeah, it's a bit immature, but yeah, so
Speaker 4: I think those would be the ones where I'm like
Speaker 4: ha ha ha ha ha. And and now I'm just
Speaker 4: kind of like, all.
Speaker 3: Right, came in for the record, I don't judge you
Speaker 3: for that, So.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Totally.
Speaker 4: It means a lot. I feel lighter, good, good.
Speaker 3: What is the film? Oh my god? That means the
Speaker 3: most to you. Not necessarily the film itself is any good,
Speaker 3: but because the experience you had seeing it would always
Speaker 3: make that film special to you.
Speaker 4: They're kind of not to be like a lot of
Speaker 4: movies like this, right, But I think I'm one of
Speaker 4: those people. Music does it a bit more where it
Speaker 4: just take you to a place, and I think this
Speaker 4: movie kind of does that. So the first time I
Speaker 4: watched it, I was like younger and I watched it
Speaker 4: by myself. This movie is bring it on.
Speaker 3: Wow, great film, Bring it on.
Speaker 4: You gotta bring it on. So the first time I
Speaker 4: watched it, I wasn't a cheerleader. I was a person
Speaker 4: watching a movie and I was like, this is funny.
Speaker 4: I watched it later I was a cheerleader. I watched
Speaker 4: it with my team, and I just understood it so
Speaker 4: much more. I felt connected to them and connected to
Speaker 4: it in a different way. And it was also like
Speaker 4: an interesting year because I was living in California with
Speaker 4: like my aunt that year who owned a like cheer company,
Speaker 4: and so I'm living so this is a like kind
Speaker 4: of tumultuous year in my life. Cheerleading is happening something
Speaker 4: that I had never previously been really into, but something
Speaker 4: that I kind of almost had to do. It was
Speaker 4: like the after school activity, and we were always like
Speaker 4: at a cheer gym. So there's a lot of kind
Speaker 4: of I guess, energy around this activity, which was the
Speaker 4: central theme in this film, a film that also had
Speaker 4: to do with like an outsider. I always kind of
Speaker 4: find those kind of interesting, Like it had to do
Speaker 4: with a person becoming a part of this world, which
Speaker 4: I kind of related to bringing up baby classic.
Speaker 3: You're first cheerleader I've ever met. Wow, I don't think,
Speaker 3: do you know what? That's pretty?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, because you you know, you
Speaker 4: always carry a bit of spirit and pep inside of you.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's one of those things where you
Speaker 4: just kind of you just kind of leave it, you
Speaker 4: just leave it behind. You know.
Speaker 3: Obviously got lots of questions about your mum and your
Speaker 3: auntie in that year.
Speaker 4: But yeah, oh, I feel like it's a big one
Speaker 4: where I think that is a part of my little
Speaker 4: baby that I'm still kind of dealing with because I
Speaker 4: think just childhoods are crazy this time ten eleven, yeah
Speaker 4: around there. But I think the part that my little
Speaker 4: baby is trying to reckon with is how much it
Speaker 4: was for me to deal with, because I think sometimes
Speaker 4: when adults are dealing with like big things, things like well,
Speaker 4: at least I felt like, I know, I felt kind
Speaker 4: of like in the way or like an afterthought, if
Speaker 4: you will. So it was just a weird year of
Speaker 4: kind of being like sent away for the best yea,
Speaker 4: being taken care of by my aunt who had always
Speaker 4: lived in California, whereas I'd always lived in Texas, under
Speaker 4: such weird circumstances and no one really talking to me
Speaker 4: about how I feel about them. Then getting into you know,
Speaker 4: this sport that I had never really considered to be one,
Speaker 4: being a part of a team, realizing that I've not
Speaker 4: been very like physically active. I was very much like
Speaker 4: watching TV kid, So then being like, oh, my body
Speaker 4: can do this stuff like that's crazy, that's very cool.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so it was just a weird fucking year,
Speaker 4: I think, and none of them have been like that,
Speaker 4: so I think because I lived there for that year.
Speaker 4: Then I went back to Texas, went back to my
Speaker 4: old school. But yeah, so that year was just kind
Speaker 4: of like a standout. And I think that's also why
Speaker 4: I have like an affinity for Los Angeles, just like
Speaker 4: because I got to know it in a weird way then,
Speaker 4: And yeah, I grew up a bit.
Speaker 3: Thank you. What is the film you most relate to?
Speaker 4: Mean Girls? Baby?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 4: So sad I am Lindsay Lohan, classic Lindsay Lohan, you
Speaker 4: gotta be And I think what I related to with
Speaker 4: that character because around the time I saw this, I
Speaker 4: think it was like middle school. So the first chunk,
Speaker 4: I guess of my life. The little chunk was in
Speaker 4: a kind of more urban, but not really I don't
Speaker 4: know what urban means. Is that like downtown, do you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Not like racist urban, which just
Speaker 4: means like vaguely like hip hoppy black. Yeah, but it
Speaker 4: wasn't like a suburb. But it wasn't like city, do
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So I lived in an area.
Speaker 4: I lived in an area. There was an area, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was an area. There were more black people in
Speaker 4: this area. And we moved from that area to like
Speaker 4: a legit suburb. It was outside of Houston and the
Speaker 4: school that I went to. But even like so before
Speaker 4: when I was in the area, I was going to
Speaker 4: a school. It was a charter school, uh, and it
Speaker 4: was I won't be like it was for like kids
Speaker 4: that were like gifted or something, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: It was a kind of mishmash of kids, and I
Speaker 4: didn't really feel like I holy fit in there. Then
Speaker 4: I moved to the full of like white people have
Speaker 4: different like socioeconomic means and there I don't know. I
Speaker 4: feel like my social life as a like teenager was
Speaker 4: always kind of all over the place. So I was
Speaker 4: in smart classes or whatever. So I had my group
Speaker 4: of friends there. We kind of identified with that, like
Speaker 4: that was a part of like who we were. But
Speaker 4: then I was also like loosely in athletics, which is
Speaker 4: just when they rotate you through sports or like at
Speaker 4: one point they're like, you're gonna do volleyball. Never got it,
Speaker 4: never good at that. Then they're like, now it's basketball time.
Speaker 4: Never got it, never get it. Now it's like track time.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, I never got it, but
Speaker 4: you have to do one of them. So I ended
Speaker 4: up like running really badly. Then in high school, a
Speaker 4: lot of my friends were like in band. At one
Speaker 4: point I was in like chess club. I don't know why.
Speaker 4: I was just looking for something to do. I don't
Speaker 4: remember how to play that. I got into theater later on,
Speaker 4: and cheerleading was going on, and it was just a
Speaker 4: lot of kind of you know, you always see those
Speaker 4: movies about like American high schools and how they have
Speaker 4: like the lunch tables that are like so divided and
Speaker 4: all these different things, and I kind of found myself
Speaker 4: fluttering from like these groups, like from group to group.
Speaker 4: A social Butterfly if you will WI. But I think
Speaker 4: in all of this there was that kind of pressure
Speaker 4: to fit in and that kind of like popularity thing.
Speaker 4: And I think through different phases, I did feel a
Speaker 4: pressure to be a part of like a cool group.
Speaker 4: And watching Mean Girls it kind of digs into how
Speaker 4: it's all bullshit, you know, And I really really enjoyed
Speaker 4: seeing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, and it's everyone's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and conformity is insane and like I love to
Speaker 4: this day when you see like teen girls and they
Speaker 4: think that they're all original because they've all decided to
Speaker 4: like wear the same outfit. Yeah, you're missing the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you miss the movie further the best movie?
Speaker 3: Up? What's the sexiest film you've ever seen?
Speaker 4: Oh, I want to go back. I want to go
Speaker 4: back to call me by your name. It would be
Speaker 4: a toss up. And I don't know why. The sexiest
Speaker 4: films I've ever seen are like one gay movie or
Speaker 4: another gay movie. Okay, what's blue is the warmest color?
Speaker 4: That's the way right right, And there's this, uh, there's
Speaker 4: controversy around both of them. Whatever. I mean, I grew
Speaker 4: up with the male gaze. Yeah, and people are like
Speaker 4: blues warms color, male gays, male gays, and I'm like
Speaker 4: lady gays. Yeah, I think just like the tension, right,
Speaker 4: And I think whenever there's like, uh like stuff going
Speaker 4: on with the person's like identity and what they like,
Speaker 4: they can't admit that they like desire something. I think
Speaker 4: that kind of tension I really enjoy. But yeah, Heart movie,
Speaker 4: I just love an extended sex scene as well. I'm
Speaker 4: just kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm picking that name. Yeah, yeah, came. There's a subcategory
Speaker 3: to this question, traveling boner is worrying? Why does Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the film you found arousing but you thought perhaps
Speaker 3: you shouldn't.
Speaker 4: Hey, is this bad? That's tough because I'm a horny
Speaker 4: I'm a horny little creep.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just the facts. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't know. If I'm not supposed to find this heart,
Speaker 4: I'll do two of them. But I think we are
Speaker 4: supposed to find them hot. I'm confused by it. One
Speaker 4: would be Hal's Moving Castle, cartoon vibe, anime vibe. I
Speaker 4: would say maybe anime light. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 4: know much about the genre. So Hal is like the
Speaker 4: main like dude, and I think we are supposed to
Speaker 4: find him hot, maybe not as much as I do.
Speaker 4: And I think what bothers me about finding him hot
Speaker 4: is like the voice is Christian Bale and that's just
Speaker 4: disturbing to me.
Speaker 3: That is disappointing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you know what I mean? But he's just
Speaker 4: a hot ass cartoon Edward Scissor hands fun right, Okay,
Speaker 4: I can't confuse sometimes, like is this supposed to be hot?
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's it's a passionate film about a man
Speaker 3: with Scissar's friends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's worrying, just because what is he
Speaker 4: going to do with those hands? You know?
Speaker 3: I think the thing without decisions, which I love with
Speaker 3: all my heart. There is always the question of why
Speaker 3: at any point did the man who made him give
Speaker 3: him scissors friends, Like one says like if he was
Speaker 3: like more of a Swiss army knife. And yes, they
Speaker 3: were practical, right you go, yeah, yeah, you have one cison,
Speaker 3: then maybe have a screwdriver and there, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: A wine opener. Yeah. It's weird because like he loved him, right,
Speaker 4: he like misses his father or whatever. But also like
Speaker 4: that guy was fucked up. He could have easily gave
Speaker 4: him regular hands.
Speaker 3: He was just about to yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: But then he died, killed him. Yeah, it's yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a heavy one. And I guess the reason why I
Speaker 4: go because he just seems like so like vulnerable, and
Speaker 4: you go, are you supposed to be attracted to this person,
Speaker 4: this being? You know, he just like I don't know, Well,
Speaker 4: he seems like you're just like, is he okay? Yeah,
Speaker 4: so maybe not. There's a lot to deal with.
Speaker 3: I'd like to have seen him go to therapy at
Speaker 3: the end of the film and just, yeah, just address
Speaker 3: the fact that there's probably some residual anger to his
Speaker 3: creative Yeah.
Speaker 4: Love totally such a complicated relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, objectively, what's the greatest film of all time?
Speaker 4: Tough? So I told you up top, not a person
Speaker 4: who has a favorite film, right, I will tell you
Speaker 4: a film that I really really enjoy that I don't
Speaker 4: think enough people know about The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.
Speaker 3: Dolly Parton love it Reynolds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think what I love about it is
Speaker 4: it's like old. Yeah, there's that element where I think
Speaker 4: it might be seventies, eighties something like that. I think,
Speaker 4: and Dolly Parton is the Madam, if you will, of
Speaker 4: this brothel, and it's like a it's a musical. It's
Speaker 4: a musical said in a brothel, you know. Bert Reynolds
Speaker 4: is like this police officer who like is in love
Speaker 4: with her, you know, and he's trying to look out
Speaker 4: for the girls. The girls love the girls. They love
Speaker 4: their stories and songs, and there's dancing, and I just
Speaker 4: I think I saw when I was quite young, and
Speaker 4: I think any movie with like that kind of like
Speaker 4: a kind of forbidden theme, if you will. Hedwig and
Speaker 4: the Angry Inch vibes, like any movie that has to
Speaker 4: do with like sexuality or like taboos, if you will,
Speaker 4: that explores that stuff but embraces them, I think is
Speaker 4: something that I've always really enjoyed.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love that one.
Speaker 4: It's a good one.
Speaker 3: What's the film you can or have watched the most
Speaker 3: over and over again.
Speaker 4: I'd go super Bad, I'd go Bridesmaids. Yeah. I really
Speaker 4: love silly things. I don't know if you know this
Speaker 4: about me. I enjoy comedy. I like it.
Speaker 3: This has come as a bit of a shock, but okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's good stuff, and so super Bad ignites
Speaker 4: the teen boy within. There's a baby in me, but
Speaker 4: there's also a teen boy. Yeah, I'd like yeah, and
Speaker 4: I want to say, hey, I'll help you get a
Speaker 4: fake idea. Yeah, I think like just the the humor
Speaker 4: in both of them is so delicious.
Speaker 3: That brings me to my other question, which is, what's
Speaker 3: the film that made you laugh the most?
Speaker 4: What we do in the Shadows is it? Do you
Speaker 4: know what? I could probably watch that a million times,
Speaker 4: you know, so funny, not in its blah blah blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. I can't figure out how to watch things here,
Speaker 4: not in its entirety. So I watched a couple episodes
Speaker 4: and I dug it. I think I missed Jermaine right,
Speaker 4: I missed that presence, and I miss the white TT
Speaker 4: the white tt of it all. But I did, I
Speaker 4: dude enjoy the show. I can never figure out how
Speaker 4: to watch things from inside the UK.
Speaker 3: It is tricky. We don't like to be negative. Will
Speaker 3: be quick. What's the worst film I ever saw?
Speaker 4: Really mean? There was a movie that I was watching,
Speaker 4: hate watching if you will, Halloween, and it is a
Speaker 4: movie called Bones. It is from two thousand and one.
Speaker 4: The graphics are really bad and It is about the
Speaker 4: ghost of a neighborhood. He like haunts this neighborhood. His
Speaker 4: name is Jimmy Bones and he is played by Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 3: Yes, Jimmy Bones with Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's sometimes manifest as like a dog. And
Speaker 4: it was just it was just really bad. It was
Speaker 4: just really bad, so bad that it was good and
Speaker 4: it wasn't a comedy, but we were all laughing.
Speaker 3: There was a phase of about ten years where Snoop
Speaker 3: Dogg was making horror and pornography. Is that right? I
Speaker 3: don't know about the Doggie Dog's dog House or something,
Speaker 3: and it was.
Speaker 4: I must find out about it. But that sounds like
Speaker 4: a combo. He was like, if I'm gonna make films, yeah,
Speaker 4: what kind of films? What I love to make? That's
Speaker 4: heavy's check, that's beautiful. But yeah, Bones, I would say
Speaker 4: recommend also a bad Goodie ree for madness. Oh really, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's so stupid. It's great.
Speaker 3: It's about public service film.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's from like the thirties or forties, some shit
Speaker 4: like that. And it's like, these are young teenagers, they're
Speaker 4: good kids, nothing's wrong with their life, and then they
Speaker 4: try to refer and like by the end they're like
Speaker 4: dead and pregnant and all sorts of shit. It's amazing.
Speaker 3: That sounds fun, A good one. You've been phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: However, when you were eighty eight, which is genetically when
Speaker 3: all members of your family die, which was a warning.
Speaker 3: I guess I think you suspected because you were like,
Speaker 3: it's happening at some point. Yeah, and in your will
Speaker 3: you'd left one hundred quid to all your adopted teenage yeah,
Speaker 3: with all your former lovers, but which at this point
Speaker 3: was a ship time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so many.
Speaker 3: You're in bed and your four past to bed is
Speaker 3: a massive bed because you're very wealthy, and there's a
Speaker 3: young lever on top of you riding away. You have time,
Speaker 3: and they're very good at this, by the way.
Speaker 4: So good that I'm transported.
Speaker 3: You're transported not just out of your body, but to
Speaker 3: the other side. And you come and you die, and
Speaker 3: your young your young lover steps up. You're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I think I've I've killed her. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: would rush over. What's happened the lover? Guys, I think
Speaker 3: I think I killed her. No, No, how old was
Speaker 3: she and the lover gues eighty eight. That was I
Speaker 3: have brought a coffin because I've been watching the clock.
Speaker 3: It's about time. Yeah, I brought you.
Speaker 4: Understand what dead o' clock is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the coffin is the size of you. And
Speaker 3: you're not the size that you were because your young
Speaker 3: lover has absolutely come on. Absolutely you're's let's just say,
Speaker 3: there's sex ephemera all over you. Yeah, and it's scary
Speaker 3: movie levels of ye eme yeah, and which is a
Speaker 3: lovely thing.
Speaker 4: That's how I want to go. That's how I want
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's increased the size of you quite significantly.
Speaker 4: Even though it was pounded to a pulp.
Speaker 3: You were pounded to a boat, but then built up
Speaker 3: by the amount of yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, phenomenal. Yeah, look at your vocabulary. If I'm in
Speaker 4: so many ways, so many ways to save jeers or.
Speaker 3: Juice, Jesus and juice. Yeah, as Snoop Dogg once said,
Speaker 3: sipping on jeers.
Speaker 4: And juice, Yeah, laid back.
Speaker 3: So I'll come in right. I've got to chop you
Speaker 3: up because you're not going to fit in the in
Speaker 3: the cove and as you are, luckily there's a button
Speaker 3: knife under your pillow where you always keep it. For
Speaker 3: Get the butt knife. Me and your young leverage. Just
Speaker 3: chop it. It takes a while, man, this button knife is
Speaker 3: not very sharp.
Speaker 4: Put it not a great decision. But you know, it's
Speaker 4: just that's how I lived and how I died.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she died by the knife. By the button knife. Anyway,
Speaker 3: manage chop you up that stuff you in. The coffin
Speaker 3: is packed, yes, packed, it's jammed. There's really only enough
Speaker 3: room in this coffin for one DVD that I can
Speaker 3: slip into the side to send you to the other side.
Speaker 3: And on the other side this movie night every night,
Speaker 3: and one night it's your movie night. What film are
Speaker 3: you going to take to show everyone when it's your
Speaker 3: movie night in Heaven?
Speaker 4: I think I might bring a Watchman with me.
Speaker 3: What a lovely choice, I think.
Speaker 4: So it's long, so we'll get time to hang out
Speaker 4: at some point. You know, you get violence, you get space,
Speaker 4: you get superheroes, you get a sex sequence in a
Speaker 4: robotic owl. You get a raw shack being so strange
Speaker 4: and he's just so broody. I've forgot better every about it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think I'd have a bit of that, you know, excellent.
Speaker 3: Choice, Chema before you leave us, Is there anything you'd
Speaker 3: like to tell anyone to look out for or to
Speaker 3: watch or to listen to.
Speaker 4: I just want people to listen to their Bob.
Speaker 3: You've been wonderful. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good night, good too, good night and good day.
Speaker 3: Good night.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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