WEBVTT - TechStuff Looks at the LHC

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm an editor at how stuff works dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting across from me as usual as senior writer Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing me. I don't. I wouldn't give a franc for

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<v Speaker 1>that for that. So today we wanted to cover a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big piece of technology. Actually, yes, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get deep into it, and it's a big piece of

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<v Speaker 1>technology that looks at teeny tiny stuff. Yeah. Yeah, Well

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<v Speaker 1>we've had quite a few people say that they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>us to talk about this, and we've kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>it off because, well, we wanted to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's it's strange. It's the large Hadron collider, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're gonna talk talk about. And really we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to do a podcast about this about nine

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, but then a bird dropped a bag out

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<v Speaker 1>on my head and it just threw everything off for ages.

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<v Speaker 1>What really frightens me is that I thought about making

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<v Speaker 1>that joke and hadn't yet. Yeah, well I was like

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<v Speaker 1>one of us is going to It's just gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a race, all right. So um, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the story about the bird and the bread, we

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<v Speaker 1>will all become Yes, we will allude to it in

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment. But let's talk about large hadron collider,

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, what it does and um, and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get a grip on the whole idea of adam

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<v Speaker 1>smashers and particle accelerators. Yes, this actually is the latest

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<v Speaker 1>if you will enter it in a a a race

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<v Speaker 1>that has gone on, a scientific race that has gone

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<v Speaker 1>on for many many years, a game of one upsmanship,

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<v Speaker 1>um that that started so long ago. But basically, in

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<v Speaker 1>in in scientific terms, we're talking about the race to build, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the largest particle accelerator. And it has gone back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth between the United States and Europe for many years

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<v Speaker 1>and and basically it seems like, um, the United States

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of seeded uh this to a group of

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<v Speaker 1>scientists or an organization called that calls itself CERN, which

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<v Speaker 1>is which stands for the European Organization for Nuclear Research. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and if that doesn't make sense, why because in Europeans

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<v Speaker 1>European US there for and that's why to our to

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners in Europe, I love you guys, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>teasing being silly. But yes. The CERN, of course also

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<v Speaker 1>famous for a few other minor contributions to technology, the

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<v Speaker 1>Worldwide Web, like the world Wide Web, tim berners Lee

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<v Speaker 1>of CERN being the guy who who developed what would

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<v Speaker 1>later become the World Wide Web, so built on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the Internet network of networks. So anyway, yes, certain,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a pioneer in science and technology. They were the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who spearheaded this whole development of the large Hadron Collider,

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<v Speaker 1>which was, you know, such an enormous project. It involved

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<v Speaker 1>more than just certain, It involved the cooperation of various organizations,

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<v Speaker 1>research institutions, countries, um. And you know, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>really a testament to science and to exploration. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an exploration that involves recreating conditions that were

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<v Speaker 1>prevalent immediately following the creation of the universe. But on

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<v Speaker 1>the tiniest scale we can manage right now. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>well the scientists seemed to think now. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I say seemed to is because I have just a

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<v Speaker 1>paltry layman's and reportation of these things. Um. They believe

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<v Speaker 1>that there are these these particles that existed UM in

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<v Speaker 1>the creation of the universe that simply aren't there today.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not because they couldn't be. It's because the

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<v Speaker 1>conditions just aren't right now. So they want to recreate

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<v Speaker 1>the conditions that they believe existed right after that UM

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<v Speaker 1>by accelerating very tiny things to smash together and and

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<v Speaker 1>basically make bits of particles that they think would be

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<v Speaker 1>those those things that they're trying to identify. So basically

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<v Speaker 1>there's a roadmap. They think there's a city there, and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to see if they can make it happen. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's this really boils down to the whole Big

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<v Speaker 1>Bang Theory. So our whole universe was in a hot,

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<v Speaker 1>dense state. Really what you went there? Yes? I did

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<v Speaker 1>go there. Hey, some of the characters on the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Bang Theory were some of my early as Twitter followers,

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<v Speaker 1>not the actors, the actual fictional characters of the television

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<v Speaker 1>show Big Bang Theory were following me on Twitter for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, which I thought. I was thrilled. Anyway, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Big Bang Theory, which is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the I would say the most prevalent theory of how

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<v Speaker 1>our universe was formed. Um. The Big Bang theory states

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a moment when, which did not last

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<v Speaker 1>very long relatively speaking compared to the life of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a moment when energy and matter were one.

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<v Speaker 1>They were not two different things. Energy and matter kind

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<v Speaker 1>of we're coupled together, uh, and then split apart and

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<v Speaker 1>then developed into what we see today, into the matter

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<v Speaker 1>and energy that we are able to observe today, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as stuff that we may not ever be able

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<v Speaker 1>to observe and explosion. Yeah, and so there were these

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<v Speaker 1>these fundamental particles that eventually became matter. And by taking

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<v Speaker 1>sub atomic particles and accelerating them to near the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light the speed of light and making them collide together,

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<v Speaker 1>you can smash them apart so that they become these

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<v Speaker 1>even more basic particles and energies that are what make

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<v Speaker 1>up the stuff around us. So it's it's like reducing

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<v Speaker 1>matter that we have today into the proto matter that

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<v Speaker 1>existed immediately following the Big Bang. Um, and there's well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get a little bit more into the Big Bang stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets really really complex and complicated. It goes beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the scope of tech stuff, and it gets difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>to explain. I had a friend of mine asked me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what was there before the Big Bang? And said, that

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<v Speaker 1>question is meaningless? And so why is that question meaningless?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it because time did not exist until the universe

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<v Speaker 1>came into being during the Big Bang. If you, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the theory, as you get closer to the Big Bang,

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<v Speaker 1>you eventually get to a point where time didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>So before and after are meaningless because those are concepts

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<v Speaker 1>that depend upon the existence of time. What's really funny

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<v Speaker 1>to me is now, now that you've reached this point

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<v Speaker 1>of the discussion, I feel like philosophy and science have

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<v Speaker 1>become one, and really they have been at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there is a point where science and philosophy are

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<v Speaker 1>one because you cannot or at least philosophy takes over

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<v Speaker 1>because you cannot test or observe. And you know scientific

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<v Speaker 1>theory that the whole scientific method is based upon the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you make observations and then you project future

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<v Speaker 1>guess is essentially based on those observations, you test and

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<v Speaker 1>you continue to observe, and based upon those results you

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<v Speaker 1>build knowledge. Right, I mean, that's the basic when you

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<v Speaker 1>boil it down. That's the basic scientific method, and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it in a controlled way, so that

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<v Speaker 1>way you can determine if in fact what you observe

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<v Speaker 1>is a result of whatever the phenomena is you're observing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like whatever whatever state you're looking at now,

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<v Speaker 1>is in fact a result of a previous state, or

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<v Speaker 1>if it was just a something something else. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say A causes B immediately, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>build that case. Well, that's that's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why this is so such a weird topic in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>because the particle that they've been looking for most famously

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<v Speaker 1>is the Higgs boson, and this is a theoretical particle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the thing according to the theories, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They they're the scientists are going by what we know

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe, and they're they're essentially saying this should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to exist, and we want to see if

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<v Speaker 1>it actually can exist. That is just such a weird concept. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>It's essentially what you do is you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>math and you say, well, based upon our understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe and based upon some mathematical formulas that are

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<v Speaker 1>far more complex than I could ever hope to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to make that clear. I'm stating this

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<v Speaker 1>from the perspective of someone who is interested in the subject,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is not an expert. But based upon the

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<v Speaker 1>math and based upon our understanding of the universe, we

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<v Speaker 1>think that there is a particle that we're calling the

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs Boson particle that would explain why matter has masses,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's a it's a it's a question I would

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<v Speaker 1>never have thought to ask, like, why does why does stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Why does matter actually have mass? Why do we have

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<v Speaker 1>mass in the universe? That's actually a great question. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple of reasons why it's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>One is that, again, energy and mass at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>or energy and matter at one point, we're coupled together

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<v Speaker 1>and they split apart. So what was it that did that?

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<v Speaker 1>Also was messy the alimony. Also there was the element

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<v Speaker 1>of the I shouldn't say element. There was the factor

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<v Speaker 1>of matter and antimatter. Okay, So when you have a matter,

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<v Speaker 1>a particle of matter encounter a particle of antimatter, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they annihilate one another, right, I mean antimatter and matter

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<v Speaker 1>cannot coexist? They do all right? Right? Hypothetical person who

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<v Speaker 1>knows what I'm talking about in the room. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>when matter and antimatter UH encounter one another, they annihilate

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<v Speaker 1>each other. So matter and antimatter both were products of

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Banks. So there must have been a little

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<v Speaker 1>more matter than there was antimatter, or else we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have matter, but it would have all been annihilated. There

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<v Speaker 1>there would be there'd be no us, right because any

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<v Speaker 1>matter and UH and matter would have destroyed one another.

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<v Speaker 1>So by that logic, there must have been more matter

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<v Speaker 1>than antimatter. Well why is that? It's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>The LHC might be able to give us some answers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why the LHC might give us some

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<v Speaker 1>answers is again because by smashing these sub atomic particles

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<v Speaker 1>together at incredible speeds, we can recreate in miniature by

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<v Speaker 1>several orders of magnitude, conditions that were around, or what

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<v Speaker 1>we believe were around, shortly after the universe was formed.

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<v Speaker 1>By observing that, we could start to draw conclusions of

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<v Speaker 1>what happened immediately after the universe was formed and why

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is the way it is. These are huge questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean it blows my mind to think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>For more than like to go beyond the surface level.

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<v Speaker 1>I started getting a bit dizzy. Yeah yeah, well the

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<v Speaker 1>uh I was going to get into how they monitor

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<v Speaker 1>and the anti monitor deal with all of this and

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<v Speaker 1>the green lantern core, but that's that will be a

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<v Speaker 1>discussion best used for another podcast, maybe pop stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>they created this thing fet down. Yeah, that only took

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sixteen years and ten billion dollars to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with. Technically it is one below ground feet as

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<v Speaker 1>as Chris was saying, uh, it is Uh. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>a circumference of twenty seven kilometers, which is just under

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen miles sixteen point eight miles or so. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>entire thing, like if you think of it as a

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<v Speaker 1>giant circle, because that's what the main part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Large Hadron Collider is. It's an enormous circular ring. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got eight sectors, yes, all right. Each of those

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<v Speaker 1>sectors has an end cap that could next it to

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<v Speaker 1>the next sector. Okay, that end cap is called an insertion. Now, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>within this circle protons beams of protons mainly, although other

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<v Speaker 1>atomic particles can also be accelerated through the Large Hadron Collider,

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<v Speaker 1>but primarily it's it's beams of protons reach this speed

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<v Speaker 1>of the speed of light. Now you might ask, why

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<v Speaker 1>is it not actually the speed of light? Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>two reasons. One is that, according to what we know

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe, lights the fastest stuff there is, and

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot equal or exceed the speed of light unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're light like, unless you're a photon, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it well. Put it this way, the traffic ticket

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<v Speaker 1>would be enormous. Yeah, so don't do it. Well. The

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<v Speaker 1>other reason is because this this UH the facility is

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<v Speaker 1>so large it actually spans the border between UH France

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<v Speaker 1>and Switzerland, so which is why you made the fan.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to stop for customs each time it goes through,

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<v Speaker 1>which delays it a little nice. So anytime it has

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<v Speaker 1>any duty free stuff or you know, it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>declare that it's carrying a certain amount of stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>France to Switzerland, mainly cheese, then it has to slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all a lie, and that that that customs part.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of we've been saying, besides the green lantern

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<v Speaker 1>and other silly asides, totally true, yes, but it's um

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<v Speaker 1>it's fascinating in a way to think about because um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this very big, very expensive machine is necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to smash tiny, tiny, tiny particles into even tinier particles.

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<v Speaker 1>And and again, remember we're looking for lots of different stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs boson is probably the most famous, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and the one that's made the news recently as at

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<v Speaker 1>the time we're recording this, right, right, the recent news

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<v Speaker 1>states that we have discovered a particle that fits very

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<v Speaker 1>closely to what we would expect the higgs boson to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not that we found the higgs boson necessarily,

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<v Speaker 1>but that we found something that's promising along those lines. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So again, we cannot say we found the higgs boson

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<v Speaker 1>with certainty. Actually will probably never be able to say

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<v Speaker 1>it with a hundred percent certainty, but we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what we can say is that the findings we've discovered

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<v Speaker 1>are promising along those lines. It appears to be, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way to know for certain, right and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna continue Obviously, they're going to continue to do experiments,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it's repeatable, make sure that the things that

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<v Speaker 1>they have observed are in fact actual observations and not

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<v Speaker 1>some form of error. Uh, this is all part of science,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Science is all about. You've got to replicate

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is you did to make sure that it

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<v Speaker 1>is in fact a real effect. What did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But beyond the Higgs boson, we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at other stuff too, like, for instance, our universe is expanding, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, and uh, and it expands at a particular

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<v Speaker 1>rate and that rate is very difficult to explain based

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<v Speaker 1>upon the observable amount of matter in the universe. So

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<v Speaker 1>the way the galaxies we're talking massive massive systems, not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not solar systems, we're talking entire galaxies, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they behave seems to contradict our knowledge of

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<v Speaker 1>what the universe, how the universe should behave based upon

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of matter we believe exists within the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to figure out why is that? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is that the case? And one of the theories proposed,

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<v Speaker 1>and a very popular one since really the ninety nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's the stuff that we cannot observe, that is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's undetectable by humans. Right now, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to figure out where and what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But that scientists, for lack of a better term, call

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<v Speaker 1>it dark matter. So it's the stuff that we cannot detect,

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<v Speaker 1>but that at least in theory, must exist in order

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<v Speaker 1>for the universe to behave the way it behaves despite

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<v Speaker 1>the way we understand the universe. And by saying, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what if there's this stuff that we cannot see but

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<v Speaker 1>it does exist and it otherwise behaves like matter, What

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<v Speaker 1>if it's out there, how much of it would it

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<v Speaker 1>we need in order to balance out the way galaxies

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<v Speaker 1>do behave and the way we think they should behave

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, And once we kind of created that theory,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also a theory that kind of partners with this

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<v Speaker 1>about dark energy, which is, you know, again, an energy

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<v Speaker 1>component that we cannot directly detect. We detect its uh,

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<v Speaker 1>its effects, but not the actual energy itself. This would

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<v Speaker 1>account for the way the universe is expanding and the

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<v Speaker 1>way galaxies move in relation to one another. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again, this is not a perfect explanation because

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<v Speaker 1>it really just says we don't really know. These are

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<v Speaker 1>sort of placeholders until we can figure out more. Well, again,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Large Hadron Collider will recreate conditions similar to

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<v Speaker 1>those shortly after the Big Bang, there's hope that perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>we will find some sort of evidence that supports or

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps contradicts the theory of dark matter and dark energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond that, there's also the wonderful world of string theory,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'll admit to you guys. I mean, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not an expert. So what I've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about so far is stuff that I have a weak

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<v Speaker 1>grasp on, right like I can, I can almost get

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<v Speaker 1>my head around it. But it's still pretty perplexing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>String theory just kicks my brain out my ear and

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<v Speaker 1>says you do not belong here, never show your face

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<v Speaker 1>here at end. Because string theory is again a completely

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<v Speaker 1>theoretical model that is based primarily upon mathematics that would

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<v Speaker 1>reconcile what we call the standard theory with UH, something

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<v Speaker 1>that the standard theory could not explain before. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>standard theory is kind of our our explanation about how

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<v Speaker 1>the universe works, right um, and it has UH. It

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<v Speaker 1>encompasses three of the four fundamental forces we understand about

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. Those those three forces are the weak nuclear force,

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<v Speaker 1>the strong nuclear force, and electromagnetic force. But the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental force, the one that it does not explain, is gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>String theory is one attempt to reconcile everything we know

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<v Speaker 1>about the universe and sort of it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the whole unified theory approach you might have you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>of the unified theory, right, Yeah, this idea that there

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<v Speaker 1>is there's got to be an explanation that brings together

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<v Speaker 1>all of these elements so that we have a working

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<v Speaker 1>model of why the universe behaves the way it does. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The string theory is kind of an approach to that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is again theoretical, it's all based on mathematics. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the different string theories suggests that there

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<v Speaker 1>are at least eleven dimensions to the universe. Uh. We

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<v Speaker 1>of course cannot directly observe all of these dimensions. We know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's certain spatial dimensions that we are aware of, length, height, depth,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. There's also the dimension of time,

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<v Speaker 1>which we perceive as a linear progression. Though again time

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<v Speaker 1>is relative. If you move, you know, depending upon the

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<v Speaker 1>speed that you are moving throughout the universe, time is

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<v Speaker 1>going to pass at a different rate between you and

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<v Speaker 1>a stationary observer, which is crazy as well. Also, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, alternative theory of why the universe is expanding

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<v Speaker 1>the way it is at the speed at What it

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<v Speaker 1>is is that it's not accelerating or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that time itself is slowing down, but we are

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<v Speaker 1>incapable of perceiving that ourselves. It's just time is slowing

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<v Speaker 1>down in the context of the universe as a whole. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even grasp that. So string theory boils down

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<v Speaker 1>to this idea that everything in the universe, when you

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<v Speaker 1>get really, really, really really down to it, is made

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<v Speaker 1>up of these strings. And the strings can either be open,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that the ends are free, or they can be closed.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a it's like a rubber band, a loop,

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<v Speaker 1>and they vibrate at different frequencies, and how they vibrate

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<v Speaker 1>determines what they are. So a string vibrating a certain

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<v Speaker 1>way would be an electron or what Really, a collection

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<v Speaker 1>of strings vibrating that way would be an electron versus

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<v Speaker 1>a proton or a neutron or whatever. Uh. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>with string theory, Among many other problems, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>big problems with string theory is that you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>an observation to prove or disproved string theory because it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's dealing with something that is so tiny and fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>that there's no way we can detect it, So you

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<v Speaker 1>can't observe it and you can't test it, which has

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<v Speaker 1>led some scientists to say string theory is more of

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<v Speaker 1>a philosophy that it is a science, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot observe or test it, how can you call it science.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mathematical theory that's more in the line of philosophy,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, I agree that's a fairly valid argument

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<v Speaker 1>at this stage. Well, there's some hope that the LHC

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<v Speaker 1>could perhaps uncover some evidence that strength that would support

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<v Speaker 1>string theory, mainly supersymmetry, and supersymmetry is a step beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of matter and anti matter. So we do

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<v Speaker 1>know that there is matter and anti matter. So for example,

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the antimatter component or or partner to an electron is

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<v Speaker 1>a positron, which is a positively charged sub atomic particle.

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<v Speaker 1>So positron and electron are our counters to one another.

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<v Speaker 1>They would annihilate each other with extreme prejudice. And then

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<v Speaker 1>supersymmetries are suggests that there are other counter particles besides

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<v Speaker 1>matter and anti matter. They would say that each particle

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<v Speaker 1>would have a superpartner partner and an anti superpartner, which

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<v Speaker 1>we would call a supervillain, and that that those that

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps the experiments in the LHC might uncover evidence of supersymmetry,

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<v Speaker 1>which in turn would be support for string theory. So

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<v Speaker 1>there are lots of different things that the LHC is

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<v Speaker 1>looking for, and how it does it is pretty phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we said, you know, it involves accelerating these

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<v Speaker 1>these particles at near the speed of light and using

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous machine to do it, and how that happens

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<v Speaker 1>is insane. Well, the collider itself is really one of

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<v Speaker 1>of three major parts to to what the the entire

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<v Speaker 1>scientific machine if you will, that they're using over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Um the colliders is one the detectors. Therefore huge areas

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<v Speaker 1>where the detectors sit and those you know, are are

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<v Speaker 1>there to identify the results of the collisions. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there there there are four major ones and two minor

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<v Speaker 1>ones that are kind of piggybacked onto the major ones.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the grid, which is the computers, grid

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<v Speaker 1>comp grid computers, so a series of network computers that

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<v Speaker 1>handle all that data and crunch the numbers. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you when we get down. Let's get down to the

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>physical way that this system works. And you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>flip a switch and have beams of sub atomic particles

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<v Speaker 1>traveling it near the speed of light. It actually takes

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time to ramp up that speed so that

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<v Speaker 1>these particles are moving at the right velocity to make

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<v Speaker 1>them collide with one another. UM. Now you remember we've

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<v Speaker 1>got the LHC. It's a big ring. So these different

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>beams are both traveling in opposite directions, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately converge on one of these detector sites around the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>and at that detector site you will have your collisions. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So one beam is traveling counterclockwise and the other one

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<v Speaker 1>is traveling anti counter clockwise as uh directions I once

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<v Speaker 1>received for a fan said I, I'm surprised you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say wittersians. Yes, yes, okay, So that would be clockwise

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<v Speaker 1>and whiter stians. One is traveling clockwise, the other ones

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<v Speaker 1>traveling whitter sians. If you wonder what whitter sians is

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>read McMath. Uh. The So the it's counterclockwise. So these

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<v Speaker 1>two beams are traveling in different directions. But before they

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<v Speaker 1>can even do that, they have to be accelerated in

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<v Speaker 1>separate accelerators. Separate in the sense that you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>goes through them first and then gets injected into the LHC.

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<v Speaker 1>They are connected to the LHC, but they are each

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<v Speaker 1>their own thing. So it starts off in the LINNAK

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<v Speaker 1>to l I n A C. The number two, which

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<v Speaker 1>is UH. It fires beams of protons generally protons, although

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<v Speaker 1>it can be other things as well, into an accelerator

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<v Speaker 1>that's called the p S booster. Now, the ps booster

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<v Speaker 1>uses UH, these chambers called radio frequency cavities to actually

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<v Speaker 1>push the protons with radio frequencies through a pathway. And

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<v Speaker 1>that pathway is secured by magnets because you know, protons

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<v Speaker 1>are positively charged, so by using magnets in the appropriate

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of magnetic field, you can keep those those positively

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>charged particles traveling in a very specific pathway. UM. Then

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<v Speaker 1>once the protons reached the right velocity and where right

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<v Speaker 1>energy level really, the ps T booster injects them into

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<v Speaker 1>the super proton syncotron, which, to my disappointment, is not

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<v Speaker 1>a decepticon. UH. That's when the sincotron will actually divide

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>these proton beams into bunches. That's a technical term, and

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>that really is the term that cern uses. The protons

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>get divided into bunches. Those bunches are about around a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred billion protons per bunch, and there are about two

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and eight bunches per beam. Ye. Now, these

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<v Speaker 1>beams start traveling a on the LHC. It takes about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes for them to uh to hit that speed

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>of the speed of light, and at top speed, a

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>proton will make eleven thousand, two d forty five trips

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<v Speaker 1>around the entire large hadron collider each second. And and

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<v Speaker 1>and what was that distance again, it's a twenty seven kilometers,

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<v Speaker 1>so twenty seven kilometers. Uh it takes there's a twenty

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>seven kilometer trip and eleven eleven thousand, two forty five

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>kilometer trips every second. That's a lot of frequent flyer

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>miles or kilometers as the case may be. Now, the

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the fun part of this, of course, they have to

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<v Speaker 1>be kept separate initially because you want them to collide

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>when they're at act speed. Yeah, and at the detector sites,

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>so they have to they have to collide at the

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>right speed and at the right location. It also means

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that you have to make this this environment as close

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<v Speaker 1>to a perfect vacuum as you possibly can, because even

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a single mote of dust floating in this device somewhere

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>would cause billions of protons to collide prematurely. So you

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>have to try and make it as close to a

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>perfect vacuum as possible. It also means that in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get the magnets to be as efficient and fast

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, you have two super cool them. Now super

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>cooling an electro magnet. The reason why you want to

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>do that is to reduce resistance. Now, resistance is well,

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it kind of is what it sounds. It's it's a

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>conductor's tendency to resist the flow of electrons. Typically we

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>experience this in the form of heat. So as an

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>electronic device heats up, as the electronic components are heating up,

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>it's because they are resisting the flow of electrons through

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>that whatever component is. So in order to reduce this

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>quality that all conductors possess, I mean, as you know,

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you can reduce it in different ways. But one of

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the ways is too super cool an electromagnet. You can

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>reduce the resistance to almost nothing. Um they use not

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>liquid nitrogen. Uh, not liquid hydrogen, but liquid helium, which

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>is incredibly cold about one point eight degree kelvin. Technically

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't say degree, but yes, one point eight kelvin. Sorry, no,

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that that's something else I need to have correct in

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>my article. I do have an article about the large

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Hadron Collider at how Stuff Works, and it's an article

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm particularly proud of. But as I was reading, I said, huh,

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.479
<v Speaker 1>I said degree kelvin. I should have just said kelvin.

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>So so that's my fault. Send all hate mail to me.

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>The the the um information I got from the scientists

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>over you know, and doing the research from discern website.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>They said, to Greek kelvin shows degree. Well, it's not

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>discertain website. Is um UM a different a different group

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the groups from the UK that that works

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>as part of the scientists that are doing that. I

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>suddenly feel better than I had. Someone once chastise me

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>for saying to Greek kelvin, that's why that's why I

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>jumped up. That is a good point. But I think

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a useful construct in our hands. So

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're wondering what zero kelvin is, so one point

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>eight one point nine kelvin, depending on who you ask.

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Zero kelvin is zero molecular movement. Yeah, that would be

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>in the deepest, zero, deep, absolute zero, deepest reaches of space,

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>where there is no molecular movement at all. That is

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>zero kevin. It's the coldest you can possibly be because

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>heat really boils down to molecular movement. And if you

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have any molecular movement, you can't get any colder

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>than that. Um, you can't and have negative molecular movement.

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>So one point nine one kelvin, which is what I

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>had originally seen, but one point eight kelvin if you

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>want to know what that translates to in in the

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>terms that we tend to use on a day to

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>day basis, that is colder than negative two hundred seventy

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>one degrees celsius or for those fahrenheit fans among us,

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>negative four hundred fifty six fahrenheits. So bundle up. Yeah.

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the organization I was quoting from was

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the Science, Science and Technology Facilities Council. Well, you know

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>what they know what they're talking about. I'm going to

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>say degreek kelvin then and Uh, anyway, the the at

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:45.719
<v Speaker 1>this temperature, you have reduced resistance to almost a non factor,

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>which is important to get these electromagnets to operate at

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the proper speed and efficiency, to keep these beams on track,

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and to direct them properly so they're going faster and

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>faster till they hit their top speed. At that point,

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to direct them at whichever detector site is

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be measuring collisions at that moment. And uh,

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>when the collisions happened, they happen at about six hundred

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>million collisions per second. Now, remember we're talking about a

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred billion protons per bunch, so six million per second.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>That should lead you to the conclusion that not all

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>these protons are colliding with other protons. And it's true

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>because at that level, at that sub atomic size, it's

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>really hard to be so precise that you're going to

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>make sure that every proton is going to collide with

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a proton coming from the other direction. It's just not

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>really possible. We don't have that level precision. So some

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of these protons, actually a lot of protons will not

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>collide with anything, and they end up going through the

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>large hadron collider. Further until they hit uh, essentially a

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>wall that's does ring to absorb protons, and it's it's

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>their proton dump. And again it's not always just protons.

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>There there's one particular uh set of of of measuring

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>devices connected to the LHC that's all about iron ions,

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>so it's not just protons. But that's again the the

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the typical use for the LHC, so six hundred million

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>collisions per second. And then at these detector sites, they

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>have these very very advanced pieces of equipment that observe

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>what happens next, and they're observing trajectories and accelerations and

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>will really velocities I should say velocities trajectories of various

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>um sub atomic particles that result from this collision, and

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>things like quarks, which are sounds made by dirks. Mhm,

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Dirk makes a quirk. Uh, no quirks, which are they

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>They're very unstable. They last less than a fraction of

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a second. Well I guess technically they would last a

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 1>fraction of a second. They last less than a second long. Yeah, uh.

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>And there's this stuff called gluon, which is a mitigating force.

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>I thought that's what you used to stick together your

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>m uh No, I use glue on applied directly to forehead. Um,

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you were doing so well without the jokes. By the way,

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Also interesting, very tiny little particles they are. They're negatively

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>charged particles, so in that way they're kind of like electrons,

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>but they are two hundred times heavier than an electron

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is and also very unstable. One of the other things

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 1>that could potentially result from these collisions is the tiniest

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.439
<v Speaker 1>version of a black hole I can imagine, uh, which

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>caused some people to freak out right. They thought, Oh,

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the LHC is going to create a black hole and

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>we're all going to die, which was a silly, silly

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>thing to think, because a black hole, as we think

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>of it, is a collapsed star. It's an incredibly dense

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>h point where or really point is the wrong term too,

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's incredibly dense and has an incredibly strong gravitational

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>poll that light itself cannot escape. But you think about that,

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the result of a star collapsing in on itself,

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>gravity pulling the contents of the star into a dense,

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>more and more dense uh point. Really, we're talking about

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>protons slapping into each other at that scale. It's entirely different,

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and a black hole generated by a proton collision would

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>last less than a fraction of a second. So you're

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about something that is not at all a danger

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to human life on Earth. Um, well, I've seen the

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 1>documentary The black Hole. Yeah, it looks pretty scary. Uh, yeah,

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the the it's just not something you need to worry about.

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>There's also the the there's been a little bit of

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:24.439
<v Speaker 1>news about the fact that one of the many scientific

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 1>studies that's connected to the Large Hadron Collider is looking

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 1>at um cosmic rays and really it's looking to see

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>how we could create better devices to study cosmic rays

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>out in the universe, which it's really hard to do

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>from Earth because the Earth's magnetic field and atmosphere protect

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>us from cosmic rays. So you can't really build a

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>device here on Earth that can study them because they

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>can't get here. Um. And there was so there were

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>some worry about cosmic rays, which could be potentially incredibly

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>dangerous to humans. It could cause lots of problems. Uh,

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that that would be an issue, But again, uh, not

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>not as as scary as it would first sound. That

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about stuff that is on a tiny scale

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and lasts, so it doesn't exist long enough for it

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to really do anything other than give us really cool

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>information about how to study this stuff beyond a laboratory environment.

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's important too, because you know the implications for

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the study they fall, there's a domino effect. It affects

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>other stuff, including things like if we ever wanted to

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>look at space exploration, exploration, or colonization beyond what we've

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>already done, you know, manned exploration and colonization. We need

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to know more about cosmic radiation because this is stuff

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that we have to protect ourselves against. Otherwise we could

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 1>end up having a tragedy on our hands where you know,

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>everything technologically works fine, we just didn't take into account

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:06.919
<v Speaker 1>other factors that would be in play in the far

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 1>reaches of space. So there are definitely some some applications

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to this future application. So that's beyond just the fact

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that we have an understanding of our universe, which personally,

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I think is important enough on its own to justify

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>the existence of something like this. Um, I'm sorry you're

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna say something. Well, no, I didn't know if you

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>had another point to add about the actual No, no, no,

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that I think that's a that's pretty much

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>all I have about the macaques apart from I then

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna I can talk a little bit about the

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the various sites uh and and equipment that's connected to

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:46.839
<v Speaker 1>the LHC. Right. Um, well, yeah, the when it when

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it's working at full strength, it should be able to

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>uh smash particles up to seven times the amount of

0:39:55.320 --> 0:40:00.320
<v Speaker 1>force that current um, the current colliders around the world

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>can um the uh you know, the in the United States,

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the Fermi Lab has the most powerful collider that we

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>have here in this country. And they actually we're going

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>to build another one to rival the LHC. Yes, actually

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>was going to be larger than the LHC. Yes. However, um,

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>those are expensive, and the United States eventually donated money

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to the LHC project. UM. So basically they said, okay,

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:29.879
<v Speaker 1>well we'll just go in with you guys for right now,

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>because because after all, it is a friendly rivalry. Well

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, ultimately, this is all about uncovering more

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 1>information about the universe, not about you know, it's it's

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>not like the space race. It's not a political thing, no,

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.959
<v Speaker 1>not not to that extent. To the extent there, yeah,

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>there's the there's the bragging rights issues. So um so, yeah,

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>they they've gone to a great deal of effort to

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to build this device. Um So, which projects did you

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.439
<v Speaker 1>want to Well, I was going to mention the major ones.

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So there's a like I said, there's the different collision points,

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the detector sites. Uh. The one of the major ones

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>is called ATLAS, which stands for a Toroidal LHC Apparatus

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Atlas UH, and that is it's a measuring device. It's

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>about forty five long, which is about hundred forty seven ft,

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty five tall which is two ft, and it weighs

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>about seven thousand tons, and it's an observation station. Um.

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Just that's probably the biggest one. I would say it's

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the most well known out of the people who have studied, uh,

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the whole LHC development. There's also my favorite is uh, yes,

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the a Large Ion Collider Experiment or ALICE. That's the

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>one that I said, you know, there were there was

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a device specifically designed to look at the collisions of

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>iron ions. This is it, and that's specifically to look

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>at conditions that would have been present right after the

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 1>very early stages of the Big Bang. So um, yeah,

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a you know, that's that's the one that specifically

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 1>is about that the all the stuff references I was

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>making earlier in the episode. Then there's CMS, which is

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the compact muon solenoid experiment, right, and that one can

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>actually generate a magnetic field that's one times almost one

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred times stronger than the Earth's magnetic field. Um. Powerful stuff.

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 1>There's the so if your forks suddenly fly across the

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>room and stick to the wall, they got it to work.

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>That's a joke. The Large Hadron Collider beauty detector, which

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>is looking for a beauty quirk, which is what you

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>can find on Cindy Crawford's face. She's got a little

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>beauty quark right there over lip. This is known as

0:42:55.360 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>l h C B. It's a great pepsi commercial. This

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>is rapidly devolving. Yeah alright, no, so beauty quark is

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>one of those um those uh, those sub atomic fundamental

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 1>particles that only exists for a fraction of a second.

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Then there's the Total Elastic and Defractive cross Section Measurement

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Experiment or totem UM. That's one of the smaller detectors

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>in the LHC and it measures the size of protons

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and how effective the LHC actually is. So in other words,

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>this this is really to make sure that the LHC

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>is in fact performing at UH at the level that

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.919
<v Speaker 1>it needs to. So it's it's almost like it's more

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 1>about the measuring device than about what it's measuring, which

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>is sort of funny because after all this time and

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>all this money and effort that have been spent on it,

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the the LHC is still not working at full capacity. Well,

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 1>it's also had a few delays. One of those delays

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 1>there was one ay where I mean, you're talking about

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 1>the most complex machine ever built, right, So it's it's

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>incredibly complicated, which also means there are a lot of

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>different points of failure, and there have been several fairly

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:20.839
<v Speaker 1>well publicized failures that the LHC suffered on its way

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to becoming operational. Like the Dusk Star UH. There were ewoks,

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>e walks definitely were a problem. No, no, there was

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>one of them was there was a leak and the

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>liquid helium UH system, which led a lot of people

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to make jokes about scientists speaking in high pitched, sweaky voices.

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know, liquid helium I would not recommend in

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 1>haling it. It would kill you instantly. Uh maybe not instantly,

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>but it would definitely kill you because you're talking about

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 1>something that's so cold that it would you know, destroy

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.280
<v Speaker 1>any tissue it came into contact with. Not a pleasant

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>way to go, I would imagine. But anyway, liquid helium leak.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>So they had to repair that to get the magnets

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>working properly. Um there there are tens of thousands of magnets,

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of magnets UM for the big ones,

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I think there's nine thousand, six hundred, and then there

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:17.320
<v Speaker 1>are a bunch of support magnets too, UM magnet schools

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 1>as well around the whole area. The the the other

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 1>big failure news story was what we alluded to early

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in the podcast about there was a story that something

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 1>had fouled up some of the instruments for the LHC

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and and delayed its opening, and they had no idea

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>what it was. They linked it, they they they flipped

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 1>the switch. Yeah, they linked it to the possibility. Apparently

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a bird dropped some bread, specifically a piece of baguette.

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Because we're talking about France, the door Switzerland, so Strutle

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 1>not to be Germany. Um, so I dropped a piece

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of baguette down a ventilation shaft which would eventually ended

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>up gumming up some of the works and causing mechanical

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>failure electrical failure, which set back the operational date of

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the LHC UH and created a wonderful um ground for

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 1>some amazing jokes. Of course, also, I mean, since the

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 1>LHC has come online, we've heard other funny jokes, like

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the possibility that neutrinos, which are particles that have no mass.

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>So you remember I was talking about there's some particles

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that have mass and some that don't. Neutrinos don't have mass.

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.760
<v Speaker 1>So why do neutrinos have no mass while other particles

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>do have mass. That's again one of the questions we

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:53.280
<v Speaker 1>want to ask. Um. Some experiments that are related discern

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>seemed to indicate that newtrinos were traveling faster than they should,

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>faster than the speed of light, that they were actually

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>arriving at their destination fractions of a second before they

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 1>should have, and that if this were in fact true,

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 1>that it would mean that neutrinos could travel faster than

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the speed of light and would call into question lots

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 1>of fundamental things we believe about the innniverse. Ah, while

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 1>that's still kind of unfolding, it appears that all of

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that was really more down to some very simple errors,

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and that neutrinos in fact do not travel faster than

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. This did not stop people from

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:43.839
<v Speaker 1>making jokes like neutrino knock, knock, who's there, Like that's

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>where our idea, neutrino arrives before the joke does. Um.

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:55.439
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So there's a couple of interesting stories about

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.439
<v Speaker 1>the LHC. There are a lot more of them. I mean,

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>there's also the whole story about the people who wanted

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to SUECERN to keep the LHC from going online because

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 1>they firmly believe that the the facility would destroy the

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Earth if it were turned on. Despite the fact that

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>we should point out LHC is what what it's doing

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 1>is simulating stuff in a laboratory that happens all the

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 1>time in the universe, and the universe is still around.

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 1>So like, like these particles smashing into things at incredible

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>speeds that happens all the time in the universe. It

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.959
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen on the surface of Earth so much because

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>we have a magnetic field and atmosphere that that prevents

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 1>it from happening. But it happens all the time out

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:42.439
<v Speaker 1>in space, and we don't see any evidence of that

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>wreaking havoc. So there's no real difference between it happening

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>out in space and happening in a in a lab,

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>apart from the fact that it's a controlled environment that

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:54.879
<v Speaker 1>we can actually observe. So a lot of the objections

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that people raised were really they had no merit, And

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 1>if you thought about it for a few minutes, you realize,

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, if this happens all the time anyway,

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 1>and we're all still around, chances are it's not a

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:11.399
<v Speaker 1>big problem. So there were there were those stories too,

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 1>which you know, ultimately we're still around. The LEGC has

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>been working, so it doesn't seem to be a problem.

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Plus we've also had other particle accelerators that are doing

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>work very similar to the LHC for years, not at

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the level of the LHC, but but comparable work. So

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 1>those held no water. And there are other LHC stories

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:36.760
<v Speaker 1>too that are interesting and am using um to varying

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>degrees depending on how dorky you are. For me, there

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of them. That's how dorky I am. Well,

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested to see what happens when they finally get

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the machine running at full power. UM. They think they

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:54.240
<v Speaker 1>may have found the Higgs boson um, you know, running

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>into approximately half power, and so just imagining what's going

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>to happen when they can get it running at full strength.

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 1>They may be able to to, uh do some confirmation

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>of some of these these things, at least, you know,

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>repeat the experiments and get them to uh to produce

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 1>similar results. So it's it'll be interesting. And I think

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:17.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the nice things about it is too that

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>UM with this device science has been able to capture

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a few headlines UM because it doesn't all I think

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 1>it's Yeah, I think it's definitely one of the many

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>scientific endeavors that is UM that's prevalent in the news

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that has really helped kind of bring you know, it's

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a weird word to use, but sort of a renaissance

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and interest in science because that partnered with some of

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the space exploration stories we've talked about recently on the

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 1>podcast and just stuff that's recently in the news I

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:56.280
<v Speaker 1>think has really kind of inspired new generations of potential

0:50:56.320 --> 0:51:00.839
<v Speaker 1>scientists and engineers to really push themselves and and and

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 1>push forward our barriers of knowledge, which is fantastic. So

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that's also a huge contribution, you know. And I forgot

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the one story that we had talked about before the

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>show that I wanted to mention that the one bizarre

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>theory that the reason why the LHC was failing so

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>many times or and or the reason why it was

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.360
<v Speaker 1>so hard to find the Higgs boson was that the

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Higgs boson itself was some form of sentience was traveling

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>back in time from the future to sabotage the LHC

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>so that we would not be able to discover the

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Higgs boson, because were we to discover the Higgs boson,

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 1>a series of events events would unfold that would be

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 1>so incredibly catastrophic as to bring the entire universe's safety

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>into jeopardy or something along those lines. Essentially, it's the

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:59.320
<v Speaker 1>story of Terminator Too, but done with a Higgs Boson

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 1>in place. Arnold Schwartzeningger I mean sort of, which is

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:08.319
<v Speaker 1>and I was telling Chris, like, the more I read

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 1>about this, the more I could not tell if this

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>was just someone being incredibly tongue in cheeks, silly about

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:18.919
<v Speaker 1>it and just you know, sort of well, you know,

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the reason the LHC has had so many problems is

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 1>probably because blah blah blah blah blah, or if it

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:30.240
<v Speaker 1>was someone who genuinely believed this bizarre theory. I honestly

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know the answer to that. I'm hoping it's the

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:35.240
<v Speaker 1>first case, because that's awesome. It's almost like it's almost

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:39.799
<v Speaker 1>like if Andy Kaufman were a quantum physicist. You know,

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the problem is that this subotomic theoretical particle has traveled

0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>from the future and is is mucking about with all

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 1>of our works so that we can't find it. That

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>sounds like an Andy Kaufman joke to me. So anyway,

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:59.879
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the basis of how the LHC were

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and what it does and why it's important, and the

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>work that's going on is amazing. I mean, the the

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 1>reason why CERN has that grid of computers that we

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>talked about is because the amount of data that the

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 1>LHC gathers every second is huge, basically millions of snapshots

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, So there has to be this massive

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:25.879
<v Speaker 1>network of grid computers there to help decipher what all

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that data actually means and to make it meaningful to us.

0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:34.319
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's a phenomenal project that's continuing, and I

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>hope that they continue doing great science. I can't wait

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to see what else comes out of it, and whether

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>or not the Higgs boson is in fact something we

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 1>have already discovered, or or perhaps it's something totally different,

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 1>and our scientific knowledge will expand in ways we did

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 1>not expect, which that's probably the most exciting thing about science.

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 1>It's finding out that what you thought you knew is wrong,

0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>but what is real is even more amazing. Up phenomenal stuff.

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