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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Okay, can we talk about David Eigenberg

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Speaker 1: for a second, because this is the first episode we

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Speaker 2: The man that myth the viagra is when Steve shows

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Speaker 2: up in the second season. Oh yes, I didn't remember

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Speaker 3: And you get right away that, uh that Miranda has

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, her pain and her anger.

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Speaker 3: Why is she being so mad? Uh, she's really been

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Speaker 3: hurt before.

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Speaker 2: Oh, most definitely.

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Speaker 3: One let down her guard.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so adorable, I mean so adorable.

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Speaker 3: You know, and he's like, you know, just so like

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Speaker 1: I know, it is it really I was really amazed.

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Speaker 1: I don't really remember like him coming and I don't

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Speaker 1: remember I don't know if we knew that he was

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Speaker 1: going to turn out to be like this incredible relationship

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Speaker 1: he's immediately so amazing and the way that he is

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Speaker 2: She's so vulnerable, so quickly vulnerable.

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Speaker 3: It could I think I cried the first time because

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Speaker 3: it was so relatable and that, you know, once you've

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Speaker 3: And the way that she did that, you know, when

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Speaker 3: Never expected that. In her mind, he was just another

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Speaker 3: Was so like the revelation that came across her face

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Speaker 2: Rain, it's so red. It's so.

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Speaker 3: And that's a classic, classic.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so classic, and I had not remembered any of it.

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Speaker 1: That's the joy of rewatching is that sometimes I'm just

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Speaker 1: But let's get into one thing that happens before that,

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Speaker 1: which I had also forgotten and I was kind of

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Speaker 1: I love that because there are so many kind of

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Speaker 1: going on a date to the comedy club. I don't

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Speaker 4: Right, the comedian and the dude knock right, oh, and

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Speaker 1: So let's just remind everybody what happens, because it is

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Speaker 1: also really interesting this particular week in the culture of

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Speaker 2: So Miranda's at this very.

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Speaker 2: And then Miranda leaves.

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Speaker 1: Of course, so it's like we already know from the

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Speaker 1: By the fact that, you know, the cheating thing, it

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with people. Maybe we shouldn't get married. I

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Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, it's I don't know, you know. I always

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Speaker 3: proof that it is possible. You know, they were so

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Speaker 2: Honor, honor, that's good word.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not, let's not, let's not, but.

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Speaker 1: Of which there was a guy, Oh my god, I

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Speaker 3: Got a bigger EU and then the as did.

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Speaker 2: To get it one show.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I mean honestly, I know in

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Speaker 1: my mind that we have had a history with Trump on.

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Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, there he is, and you're

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Speaker 1: Who would have ever thought that this man would then

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Speaker 1: It's a brief thing, and he was very much a

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Speaker 2: About who they're supposed to be, right, and that's sad.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's sad, and I'm hoping that we're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could get married for like, well, we'll see

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Speaker 3: if we want to renew it in five years. I

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I feel like that's one thing and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like it's an interesting dynamic. And of course they're fictional,

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Speaker 3: Convince everybody else that if you just believe in love

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Speaker 3: Her face is the disappointment that she registered so perfectly.

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Speaker 3: She's hard on him. She's always hard on.

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Speaker 3: Hope, there is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah good, Yes, so good, both of them so good.

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Speaker 1: And they kiss in the rain, and when they kiss

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Speaker 1: And and he just has a way of getting in

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Speaker 2: I'm just so happy. It makes me so happy that

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm like reexperiencing these things that I took

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Speaker 2: Over time, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but it works. Yes, he's he is vulnerable, he

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Speaker 3: He's always what she might need, what's how he can help,

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Speaker 1: to play it either, But like he has such a

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Speaker 1: strong core.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like whatisode when he did ask for something

443
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Speaker 3: for himself. He was always giving for her. And one

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Speaker 3: episode he asked her, Oh my god, he asked her

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Speaker 3: to watch him play basketball. Oh yeah, and she didn't

446
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: show up, you know, And then and then he says it.

447
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Speaker 3: And then at the end of that episode, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: in this episode. But he's out there and she does

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Speaker 3: show up. He remember, he was he had to hit

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Speaker 3: the hoop. He was going to win like a million

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Speaker 3: dollars or something.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, let that.

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Speaker 3: One shot in and and sure enough she was there.

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Speaker 3: He didn't get it, but he didn't care anymore because she.

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Speaker 2: Can't to him.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't wait to rewatch that one.

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Speaker 1: I only vaguely remember it, but I mean it's incredible,

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Speaker 1: it's incredible future. Yes, and just I mean I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of that is the test of to the writing.

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Speaker 1: You know, that we can still all this time later

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Speaker 1: have such a strong like relationship to these characters and

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Speaker 1: emotional reaction. Yes, it's just it's a beautiful thing and

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Speaker 1: I'm just so lucky to be a part of it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, yeah, we're we're the lucky ones that

465
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Speaker 3: you've all you know, done these these this show for

466
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Speaker 3: so many years that have kept us all entertained and

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00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: talking and thinking and uh, you know you can really

468
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 3: discuss every episode like this and and delve in and

469
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Speaker 3: it's still topical. Some some episodes we go, wow, that

470
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: is has aged, you know, like of course, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: it's interesting that yes, yes, where we were and where.

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Speaker 2: We are absolutely oh good, you know, and absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Where really the recipients of the you know, the gift.

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Speaker 1: So I think we all are I mean, we love

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Speaker 1: doing it, as you know, we love it so much

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Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, we love each other so much.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's an amazing creative, you know situation to

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Speaker 1: be able to be in and the gift of the

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Speaker 1: fact that the inception of the show and the writing

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Speaker 1: and the execution of the show have you know, withstood

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Speaker 1: the test of time is a gift to us as well.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's from the fans, you know. And and

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Speaker 1: now I kind of get to be both rewatching it,

484
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Speaker 1: which is really really fun. Let me ask you your question,

485
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Speaker 1: should I read your book or should I listen to

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Speaker 1: your book?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I've gotten really great feedback on the book.

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Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to listen, you know, during.

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Speaker 3: The you know, when you write a book and then

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Speaker 3: when you go okay, it's done, then it goes to lawyers,

491
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Speaker 3: and the lawyers have to change certain things and uh,

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00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: and you reread and the people that correct grammar or whatever,

493
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: and then you reread it and you go, no, I

494
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: said it grammatically incorrect like that. Just stress keep it,

495
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 3: you put it back, or you change, you know, and

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00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: it goes through a couple of things. Well, I didn't

497
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Speaker 3: read my third pass. The third pass arrived and Alexis

498
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: fiance picked it up and he he was my first reader. Wow,

499
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: he got so engrossed picking it up because he knew

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Speaker 3: it was like probably the last pass and uh and

501
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: so I said, oh, you read it and I and

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Speaker 3: I just figured it wasn't going to happen. And I

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00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: said to the to my publishers, did you change a lot? No,

504
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 3: it's tiny little things. So I said, okay, now I

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Speaker 3: go to do the audiobook and there were a couple

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Speaker 3: of things that I needed to correct. So I call

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Speaker 3: them publishers. I said, so what do I do? And

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Speaker 3: she said, correct them.

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Speaker 2: Just say it the way you want it, you know, okay.

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Speaker 3: Where you want it, and in the second pressing, you know,

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Speaker 3: if we ever have a second pressing, then we'll do

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Speaker 3: it your way. We took notes, so it's slightly I mean, it's.

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Speaker 2: Tiny things what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm a stickler for tiny things, because somebody happens to

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Speaker 3: know that that tiny thing wasn't exact, you know, like

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Speaker 3: there was a thing that said I had done Barbara

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Speaker 3: Walters Show, and then I went to present it at

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Speaker 3: the Academy Awards. Wow, and they made it look like

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00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: it was all in the same day, but it was

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Speaker 3: actually the Barbara Walters Academy Award Night special was on TV.

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Speaker 2: That day, of course, you know, among yes, right.

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Speaker 3: And then I was in LA for the awards, so

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00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: it was one big long day. So I but if

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Speaker 3: somebody happened to know, then they write, what are the

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Speaker 3: other facts? Not factual?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's your life. You can correct it.

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Speaker 3: And also I do this thing. I'm not even aware,

528
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Speaker 3: but like if I'm talking like Billy, then I kind

529
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Speaker 3: of have like a voice like Billy. I sort of

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Speaker 3: get like a a thing going on, you know, and go.

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Speaker 5: Or if it's like, you know, a police officer at

532
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Speaker 5: one point in New York City, I have, you know,

533
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Speaker 5: a police officer king because they thought I robbed, so

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Speaker 5: there was a there's voices.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm definitely listening.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, Christy, you're such a good imitator.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's excellent. I'm going to listen to

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Speaker 2: your version.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoy it. It depends on what if you

540
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Speaker 3: drive a lot or whatever, you might like the audio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: Like to curl up with a good book, like the book.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, they're both great. And congratulations. Absolutely, I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you