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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Fowl Territory. I'm Alona Rizzo

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Speaker 1: and for Scott Braun alongside Kevin Palar, who I believe

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Speaker 1: is in Torsas right now, and Aj Pierzinski who is

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Speaker 1: live at Mariners Camp, and that is where we are today.

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Speaker 2: the nineteenth with the Philadelphia Phillies. But Aj is in Peoria.

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Speaker 2: We're psyched. We have a lot of guests coming up

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Speaker 2: scheduled here. Let's get to that momentarily. First, boys, let's

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Speaker 2: charge the mounds.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: This is a bummer.

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Speaker 3: Before we dig into this I just want to say,

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Speaker 3: when we call it, by the way, we call it

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Speaker 3: God's Country, and we head to Florida. So when we

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Speaker 3: head to God's Country, you know everything will get better.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: And then also, uh, by the way, when our show

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Speaker 3: is foul territory, where I am sitting is in foul

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Speaker 3: But I feel like I have a better chance of

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Speaker 3: anything else protecting me than Mark. Does you have a glove?

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Speaker 2: Why don't they put put an l screen behind you

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Speaker 3: And Mark's son is sitting over here, and he's supposed

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Speaker 3: to be protecting me, Jake, But Jake is so far away.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to say his name, but so but

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Speaker 3: Jake is so far away from me that if a

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Speaker 3: We clearly he's never been around a baseball field before.

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Speaker 3: Kp like he's it's like the bullpen guy. That's you know,

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Speaker 4: That's Jacob, or they'd be watching it. Would they be

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Speaker 4: watching the guy warming up in the bullpen exactly?

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Speaker 3: So anyways, but continue Alta now that I've been to.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking one for the team and putting

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Speaker 2: your body out there and sacrificing yourself for the betterment

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Speaker 2: of foul territory. In foul territory, now let's charge the

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Speaker 2: mounds charging about all right, this is a bummer, you guys.

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Speaker 2: Pablo Lopez of the Minnesota Twins starter of course, had

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Speaker 2: a second opinion and unfortunately confirmed what we already feared.

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Speaker 2: He is requiring Tommy John surgery on his right elbow. AJ.

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Speaker 2: He is going to miss the entire season. This is

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Speaker 2: a massive blow to a Twins team AJ that was

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Speaker 2: already decimated, and now you lose your top end.

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Speaker 3: Starter and also a team member. They said they were

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Speaker 3: competing this year, they were going for it this year

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Speaker 3: after they traded away what ten guys at the trade

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Speaker 3: huge blow. And everyone said they should have traded Pablo

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Speaker 3: maybe last year. Now, what do you do with Joe Ryan, right,

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Speaker 3: another valuable commodity that they have on this team. Do

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Speaker 3: you trade him in case God forbid something happens to him?

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Speaker 3: But the biggest takeaway from this for me is it

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Speaker 3: just sucks because Pablo Lopez is a great human being

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, I echo what you say. I love watching

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Speaker 4: Pablo Lopez pitch. He's a great human being. He's a

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Speaker 4: that's immediately where my mind went to and everything they

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Speaker 4: I know they said they're going to try to compete

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Speaker 4: obviously this is new news. It wouldn't have been you know,

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Speaker 4: unfortunate like this happens. Where you have these assets you

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Speaker 5: If that's the direction you're going.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, how about this. We just got some information on

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Speaker 2: X Aaron Gleaman tweeting this Joe Ryan has been scratched

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Speaker 2: from today's start versus the Red Sox. No reason given

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Speaker 2: by the Twins yet. Should we make something of that?

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Speaker 2: Or is that is we should not imagine speculate. But

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Speaker 4: It's a little odd considering he's going to be pitching

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Speaker 4: nailed it perfectly. Maybe he's a guy that you know.

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Speaker 4: With the new news, the Pablo Lopez, maybe they're asking

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Speaker 2: Aga, could you see Joe Ryan being moved before the

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Speaker 3: I didn't think so, but maybe now or God forbid,

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Speaker 3: let's hope he's not hurt. Right, that's didn't pop up

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Speaker 3: him probably out of Team USA. If there is any

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Speaker 3: little teeny tiny thing that pops up on these teams,

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Speaker 3: especially before they get to the tm UOSA, they usually

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Speaker 3: gonna miss out on pitching for TMOSA. But I'll just

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Speaker 3: go get someone else. We're in Manner's camp. I could

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Speaker 3: come up with about three or four guys in Manor's camp,

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Speaker 3: Logan Gilbert, George Kirby, Bryan Wu and Bryce Miller. That

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Speaker 3: it all look nice in that USA uniform. We can't

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Speaker 2: Now, I hope that he is okay. Low backkind is fine,

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Speaker 2: but I would hate that he doesn't get the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to pitch for USA for the WBC. Let's take a look,

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Speaker 2: you guys at the Twins projected starting a rotation now

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Speaker 2: perhaps even longer than that, because this is going to

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Speaker 2: just assume Joe Ryan is okay, and let's just assume

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Speaker 2: he's going to be a Twin this season. Bailey ober

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Speaker 2: Simeon Woods, Richardson, Taj Bradley, and then Zebbie Matthews. This

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Speaker 2: they do have some good arms. But is it going

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Speaker 2: to be enough for the Twins to compete who They

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Speaker 2: say they're going for it, But I don't know in

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Speaker 2: that division, I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not enough. It's not enough. I'm sorry, listen,

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Speaker 3: it's not They don't have enough offense already to begin with.

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Speaker 3: Then you go to the Royals with Lugo Waka, Reagan's

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Speaker 3: saying all the right things, but I just look at

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Speaker 3: And not that, but they don't have even close to

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Speaker 2: Me, Kevin, do does this team even have a chance

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Speaker 2: I don't believe the division is even even a thought.

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Speaker 2: But wildcard, which banded playoffs? Do they have a shot?

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Speaker 4: No, Because I mean we could sit here and say,

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Speaker 4: very strong, the East is always very strong. But ag

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Speaker 4: you just mentioned you know three teams that pitching wise

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Speaker 4: And you could even make an argument that the White

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Speaker 4: They weren't putting one foot in and saying we're competing,

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Speaker 4: but we're also trading. They've been rebuilding and they've been

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's this year.

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Speaker 4: Maybe this is the year where they take a step

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Speaker 4: and maybe jumping over the Twins. I truly do believe that.

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Speaker 4: In terms of their rotation, though I think they have

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Speaker 4: It will pay dividends in the future. But they're not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 2: I would just I pray he just sells the team.

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Speaker 3: There's some fans here? Should I grab some you? Should?

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Speaker 3: Making money for him would be four? Right, I think

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Speaker 2: One through five. I think winning is a given right

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Speaker 2: If there's going to be other things in terms of categories,

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the other two things that he mentioned

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Angels. The Angels don't I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he's been actively shopping for many years.

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Speaker 2: Sam Blum, who covers the Angels for The Athletic, actually

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Speaker 3: We doing Elana? What did kp just say it should

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Speaker 3: you know what, I'm a Pittsburgh Pirates fan. I just

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Speaker 3: like to go because it's affordable. No, yes, affordability matters,

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Speaker 3: they go. Why did the Pittsburgh Pirates not draw forty

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Speaker 3: Winning cures all. You can have the worst stadium in

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Speaker 3: the world, fans will show up if you win. You

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Speaker 3: You'll get way more fans if you prioritize winning. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know where this came from or what pole

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Speaker 3: the most important I don't know. We need to see

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Speaker 3: the results of this poll. But not in the top five,

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Speaker 2: And priority hasn't been our winning hasn't been a priority. Guys,

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Speaker 2: if you look at their season records. Of course last

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Speaker 2: They went eighty five and seventy seven. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, for a majority of that time,

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Speaker 4: and they still didn't win. So obviously they don't have

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Speaker 5: There's a much bigger issue here.

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Speaker 4: And already saying that he doesn't prioritize winning is the

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Speaker 2: Another poll by Sam was a howe a great Morano's

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Speaker 2: He doesn't prioritize wunning. No.

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Speaker 3: Also, you know what KP just said, he doesn't also

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Speaker 3: What do the Mariners have starting pitching? What did the

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Speaker 3: Astros have forever homegrown guys, good starting pitching, right? What

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Speaker 3: great starting pitching and homegrown guys that led the offense? Right?

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Speaker 3: What are the Angels said, Yes, they have some homegrown guys,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the acquisitions. They added Jose Siri outfielder, third baseman,

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Speaker 2: pretty cool place to play and a good experience, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeahh I mean we've heard stories about We've heard stories,

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Speaker 4: you know, ten thousand feet above looks, but when you

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Speaker 4: It's not like he's not putting money into putting the

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Speaker 1: For sure. For sure.

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Speaker 3: K P. Let me let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 3: If you would have known that he didn't care about

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't really have a choice, but I will

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Speaker 4: There was not a better place for work life balance

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Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, I just want to ask you

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Speaker 3: I want your opinion. You played centerfield, KP. What do

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Speaker 3: you think about Mike Trout saying centerfield is Didn't he

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Speaker 5: I'll I do have an interesting take on it.

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Speaker 4: And I had left that year in twenty three and

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Speaker 5: Happen more in the corners.

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Speaker 4: field is actually the smallest part of the field in Anaheim,

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Major League Baseball teams, managers and front offices.

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Speaker 2: Guys it's going to be feeling the heat if you will,

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about this. There were thirty six executives,

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Speaker 2: former executives, managers, coaches, and scouts to tell us which

452
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Speaker 2: front offices, managers and players are feeling the most heat

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Speaker 2: heading into the season. So if you take a look

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Speaker 2: at it, apparently garnering eighteen votes KP, Bryce Harper and

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Speaker 2: the Phillies core group. This is kind of coming off

456
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Speaker 2: of the whole conversation with Dombrowski saying that Bryce Harper

457
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Speaker 2: is no longer elite. David Stearns Mendy of the Mets,

458
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Speaker 2: aj Preller who just got an tension, and the Padres

459
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Speaker 2: for an office Aaron Judge, who just hit a two

460
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Speaker 2: run home run by the Way, and the Yankees players,

461
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Speaker 2: Dana Brown of the Astros, Joe Espada, Manny Machado, and

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Speaker 2: the Padres players. So the Briars showing up twice on

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Speaker 2: this list by the athletic Let's start with number one KP.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Harper is a guy that I never question, I

465
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Speaker 2: never worry about him, I never questioned his work ethic.

466
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Speaker 2: Why do you think they are saying that Bryce Harper

467
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Speaker 2: has a lot to prove?

468
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Speaker 4: Is his general manager president of Baseball Operations put a

469
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Speaker 4: target on his back. That's probably why he's the number

470
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Speaker 4: one person on this list. I've never questioned anything Bryce

471
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Speaker 4: Harper's ever done in his career.

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Speaker 5: It is hard to be at.

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Speaker 4: An elite level every single year, and even when he

474
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Speaker 4: is not elite, he is still better than most guys.

475
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Speaker 4: He just happened to have not an elite year last year,

476
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Speaker 4: and I think it's unfair for his GM and president

477
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Speaker 4: of Baseball Operations to kind of put that target on

478
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Speaker 4: his back. I would really like to see that list

479
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 4: turned to maybe the pressure should be on the Phillies

480
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Speaker 4: front office because they've been a team that's been oh

481
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 4: so close many times and they've built this really nice

482
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Speaker 4: core group of players together led by Bryce Harper, and

483
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Speaker 4: just haven't been able to win a World Series.

484
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Speaker 3: Bryce Harper, by the way, only had a one twenty

485
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Speaker 3: nine ops plus last year. So I mean, it wasn't

486
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Speaker 3: like he was absolutely awful. He was he was pretty

487
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Speaker 3: He was still pretty damn good. I mean, it wasn't

488
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Speaker 3: the one forty when he's won the you know, the MVPs,

489
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Speaker 3: but he was still pretty good. I mean, you take

490
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Speaker 3: Preller and the Putters from office off this list. They

491
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Speaker 3: just got extended, right. David Stearns, He's not going anywhere

492
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Speaker 3: anytime soon. I mean, I guess the heat would be

493
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Speaker 3: on Mandy. But you can't say David Searns, Carlos Mendez

494
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Speaker 3: in the Mets. I mean, David Searns isn't going anywhere.

495
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Speaker 3: He's only been there for two years. Aaron Judge and

496
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Speaker 3: the Yankees players, Okay, fair, they haven't won a World Series.

497
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Speaker 3: Judge as the captain. That's how you're measured. Dana Brown,

498
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Speaker 3: Joe spot in the Astros. I think they're both in

499
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Speaker 3: the last year of their contracts. So yes, there's some

500
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: heat on them, but they also have had to make

501
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: some moves because of payroll and the many Machado and

502
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 3: the Padres players. Padres do pretty well every year. You know,

503
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 3: they're in it. Every year they're in the hunt. But

504
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: they're getting older and they they're also what it gets

505
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Speaker 3: me about when you say players. If the payroll like

506
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Speaker 3: the Padres goes down and Preller is not allowed to

507
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Speaker 3: spend more money, why does more pressure go wan the players.

508
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: They're gonna go out and do the same thing, but

509
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: they might need reinforcements, Guys get hurt, they lose guys.

510
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense how you can say they're under

511
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Speaker 3: the most heat, like why because they need to play better.

512
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Speaker 3: You can't go out there and say you know this, KP.

513
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: You can't go out there and say, man, I really

514
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Speaker 3: need to hit fifty homers even though I hit forty

515
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: last year, because there's so much heat on us, Like, no,

516
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 3: they're gonna go out and do what they do.

517
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the Padres just happen to be in

518
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Speaker 4: a tough position in the division they're in, but they're

519
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 4: putting themselves in a position to get to the postseason

520
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: mostly every year. And yes, it would be nice to

521
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Speaker 4: see them kind of break through, But I don't see

522
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Speaker 4: a lot of pressure on Manny Machado in that group. Yes,

523
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Speaker 4: that core group has kind of been together for a

524
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Speaker 4: while now too, and they ultimately haven't, you know, won

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Speaker 4: a World Series. And I think that's how we're measuring

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Speaker 4: greatness of players and greatness of organizations. It just happens

527
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 4: to be a tough time to be of any organization

528
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Speaker 4: with what the Dodgers have been able to do, and

529
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Speaker 4: you know, with the Mets, I mean, I think that's

530
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Speaker 4: also an unfair pressure to put on David Searns and

531
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Speaker 4: their manager there too, because I think a lot of

532
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 4: that pressure is coming from, you know, Steve Cohen taking

533
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Speaker 4: over the team, you know, five years ago, we're now

534
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: six years ago and guaranteeing, you know, the Mets in

535
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: the city of New York is.

536
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Speaker 5: Going to bring a World Series champion.

537
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Speaker 4: So sometimes I think it's good to be very confident

538
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Speaker 4: in what you're doing. But you know, like ag you said,

539
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 4: it's it's hard to put this additional pressure on players

540
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Speaker 4: to go out and perform even better than they've already

541
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Speaker 4: performed because as players, we already have an amount a

542
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 4: lot of pressure on ourselves to go out and perform,

543
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 4: and no one puts more pressure on ourselves. They don't

544
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Speaker 4: need that extra push from, you know, someone sitting up

545
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Speaker 4: in that Ivory Tower.

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Speaker 2: There is not a list in the world that Aaron

547
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Speaker 2: Judge should be on AJ in terms of more pressure

548
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: on him. The guy was the American League MVP. What

549
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: else could he possibly do?

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Speaker 3: I mean, can be a break three time? By the way,

551
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying, how could.

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Speaker 2: You even be on a list of having more?

553
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Speaker 3: What else could just because they haven't won a World Series.

554
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: That's it just but it actually shouldn't been Ryan Cashman

555
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: and Aaron Boone and in the front office.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be. It should be Cashman and Boone,

557
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: not Aaron Judge.

558
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Speaker 3: Aaron Judge, what pressure is. All he does is go

559
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: out and competing. And you know what he also did

560
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Speaker 3: last year Alana for the first time. He performed in

561
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Speaker 3: the postseason last year for the first time. So you

562
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Speaker 3: can't even begin to throw Aaron Judge on this list. Now,

563
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Speaker 3: you want to put some other players on that list, Fine,

564
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: Anthony Volpi maybe is under some pressure Stanton to stay healthy, right,

565
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's some other guys you could probably throw

566
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Speaker 3: on that list. But to put Aaron Judge on that list,

567
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Speaker 3: I mean that team, they're the same team they were

568
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Speaker 3: last year pretty much. They've admitted it, and they think

569
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Speaker 3: they have a championship caliber team. Aaron Judge is gonna

570
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Speaker 3: do what he does every year, or if he's healthy,

571
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Speaker 3: and let's go out and hit three hundred plus and

572
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: hit fifty homers and probably win an MVP. So yeah,

573
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Speaker 3: that's that's this is unbelievable. He's even on this list.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he even said that he was surprised that

575
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Speaker 2: the Yankees didn't make more offseason moves. He said what

576
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: everybody else was thinking. He is a captain by definition.

577
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Speaker 2: In terms of the managers, guys who were specifically mentioned

578
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Speaker 2: as having pressure on them, Kurt Suzuki of the Angels

579
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Speaker 2: received the most votes in terms of this list, five votes.

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Speaker 2: Tony Vittello, the new manager of the Giants, Mendy of

581
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Speaker 2: the Mets, Rob Thompson of the Philadelphia Phillies, Aaron Boon.

582
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Speaker 2: Of course, the Yankees are always on this list. I

583
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Speaker 2: get that, and then Oliver Marmole of the of the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Kurt Suzuki, though first time manager. Obviously,

585
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Speaker 2: catchers become oftentimes catchers become good managers. They're good managers

586
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: for a reason. Kurt Suzuki, though, think about what's around him.

587
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Speaker 2: We just had the conversation KP of Artie Moreno, not

588
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Speaker 2: expecting to win. It's not in his top five in

589
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Speaker 2: terms of priority. I almost feel like it's already at

590
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Speaker 2: a disadvantage for Suzuki. And by the way, they only

591
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Speaker 2: gave him a one year contract. I mean, what does

592
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Speaker 2: that say to you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish Whoever voted on. This wasn't anonymous, and

594
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: we could see who's voting on these players, Like, how

595
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: is Kurt Suzuki under any pressure except for the fact

596
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Speaker 4: that he has a one year deal and if it

597
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: doesn't work out, he'll probably go back and resume his

598
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 4: role as special assistant. It's hard to put a pressure

599
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 4: on a manager when we've talked about being part of

600
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Speaker 4: an organization that clearly doesn't value winning. So I don't

601
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Speaker 4: understand the pressure on him. You know, I can understand

602
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: the pressure a little bit on Tony Vitella, just coming

603
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: from the college game, and we haven't really seen a

604
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Speaker 4: manager go from a powerhouse in college directly to the

605
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: major league, so, you know, unfairly, maybe he has a

606
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 4: little bit of a target on his back. And if

607
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: you go down the list, obviously those are teams that

608
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 4: are expected to win right now, and there's always pressure

609
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: on managers when you're part of organizations like the Yankees,

610
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Speaker 4: the Mets, teams that are expected to win right now,

611
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Speaker 4: the Phillies. You know, I can understand some of those.

612
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Speaker 4: Kurtszuzuki to be at the top of that list just

613
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Speaker 4: seems very odd to me.

614
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Speaker 3: Well, here's sorry, no, here's The thing about Kurtzuzuki being

615
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: on top of this list, right, Kurtszuzuki has a one

616
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Speaker 3: year deal and Ardie Marainer just says he doesn't care

617
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: about winning, So what pressure is there on Kurtszuki. He

618
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 3: goes on one sixty two and be like, boss, you

619
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Speaker 3: just told me you don't care if we win any games.

620
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Speaker 3: So as long as people have fun and get to

621
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Speaker 3: go cheap, then why does it matter if I win

622
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Speaker 3: or lose? So there's no pressure on Kurtzuk. I promise you.

623
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Speaker 3: Kurtszuzuki is not feeling pressure. He's feel pressure because he

624
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: wants to do well for himself. He wants to do

625
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: right for the players, and he wants to do right

626
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: for the Angels fans. But he's not feeling pressure because

627
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: anybody else is putting him on. As far as Tony Vaitello,

628
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: he's got a nice contract, he's got a nice deal.

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Speaker 3: The pressure on him is just to prove that what

630
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: people are saying that a college coach can't just jump

631
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Speaker 3: from college to the big league. So I don't know,

632
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Speaker 3: I don't agree with this list. I mean, Carlos Mendoza,

633
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: you manage in New York guess what. There's pressure. Rob Thompson,

634
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: you're managing Philadelphia. There's pressure. Aaron Boone, you managing and

635
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: Oli Marmal. The only pressure is is they have Yati

636
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: Molina in their front office in a whole new regime.

637
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: So they're not supposed to win anyways this year. So

638
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: what pressure is on him if if they let him go.

639
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: I think he's at the last year of his contract too,

640
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: So if they let him go, he's like, Okay, guys,

641
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: I did what you wanted. I got you through the

642
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: rough times. And then they bring in someone else. I mean,

643
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: this is an interesting list. I would there's never any

644
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: pressure on managers. I mean you want pressure on managers.

645
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Speaker 3: I would look at like aj Hinch, Right, Tigers are

646
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: supposed to be really good. He's a veteran guy, he's

647
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: been around. Just don't mess it up, right, even here

648
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: Dan Wilson with the Marriners, just don't mess it up.

649
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: Let the players go play, be yourself and don't mess

650
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: it up.

651
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was gonna say, you know, those

652
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 4: two managers, you could throw John Snyder in there. You

653
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 4: obviously have a ton of success last year. Can you

654
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: back it up? But ultimately it comes down to the players.

655
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: But to your point, just be the same guy you were,

656
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: deliver the same message. Let your players go out and play,

657
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: don't mess it up. And then if I was, you know,

658
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: to kind of just throw out a random there. I mean,

659
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: I would imagine there's got to be a little bit

660
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: of pressure on a guy like Skip Schumacher just because

661
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: of the shoes he's filling with Bruce Bochi And I

662
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: know last year didn't go as well as they wanted,

663
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 4: but he did. Bruce Bochi did lead them to their

664
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: one and only World Series championship. He's a Hall of

665
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: Fame manager stepped away. You know, those are kind of

666
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: big shoes to fill.

667
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: What about Kurt Stammon. Why is he not on the.

668
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: List because he's in San Diego? It's the first year guy.

669
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: Again for me, the first year guys, there's no pressure

670
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: on him other than just not completely. You know when

671
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: pull a Gabe Kapler when he wanted the writing and

672
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: he put up his left hand right like what, this

673
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: is their first year as a manager. You're gonna make mistakes.

674
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: There's not press The only pressure is what you put

675
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: on yourself. I'm sorry, I mean Alex Corr does he

676
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: have pressure on him Craig Counsel with his team. Those

677
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: are the guys that are veteran guys that have been

678
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: around and done it. When you're in your first year,

679
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: you can make mistakes and be like, look, guys, is

680
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: my first year. I'll learn from it. But when you're

681
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: Craig Counsel making eight million dollars a year with the

682
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: Cubs team that's expected to win, that's when the pressure

683
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: should be ramped up. Not these first year guys, the

684
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: first guys. Whatever weiss in there.

685
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's stepping into, you know, filling some

686
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 4: big shoes too, and obviously he's had some history managing

687
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 4: before and it's his second go around. I mean I

688
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: feel like a guy like that would be a little

689
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: bit more justified on this list as opposed to some

690
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 4: of these names we saw. So hopefully some of these

691
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: people that voted will will not be anonymous and and

692
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 4: you know, you know, put their name next to their

693
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: votes so we can maybe understand a little bit better

694
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: or why they chose who they chose.

695
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: KP.

696
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: How big of a learning curve do you think Matello

697
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: is going to have? I mean, yes, I understand it's

698
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: the same game, but it's at a completely different level.

699
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: It's not like he recruited these guys, right, I mean,

700
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: this is his team. I know that they've surrounded him

701
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: with some very smart people to help him along the way.

702
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: But how hard how hard of a first year do

703
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: you think he'll have?

704
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: I mean from everything that I've been hearing out of

705
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: Scottsdale that the players love this guy.

706
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 5: He brings such great energy, he brings such great.

707
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: Vibes, And honestly, that's kind of the biggest thing you

708
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 4: can want out of a manager is communication. You know,

709
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: does he put off good vibes? Does he put off

710
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: good energy? And obviously there is the in game adjustment,

711
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 4: but he's surrounded by great people. He has a great

712
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: staff around him. And Yeah, the biggest challenge he is

713
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: going to face, and he's openly talked about it, is

714
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: in college, you're only playing three or four games potentially

715
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: in a row. You can go to your best guys

716
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: in the bullpen very often. Learning how to kind of

717
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: manage a bullpen is always going to be the biggest

718
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: challenge for someone going from the college game to the

719
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: big league game, because it's hard to go to your

720
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: best guys every single game when you're playing, you know, fifteen, sixteen,

721
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 4: seventeen games in a row. But everything I've heard from

722
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: there is he's an incredible guy. He's an incredible leader.

723
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: He makes baseball fun, He gets out there interacts with

724
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: the guys. That communication has been great and I'm looking

725
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: forward to watching him.

726
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: There's another list too, in terms of front offices managers

727
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: under pressure. The Mets the most, the Royals the least.

728
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: Well.

729
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: I guess the Royals tie with the Red Sox, the Rookies,

730
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: the Rookies. They should be the Rookies, the Rockies, Cardinals,

731
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: and the Royals. I think the Red Sox guys should

732
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: be a little bit higher than this. I mean, the

733
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: Red Sox didn't do a ton as far as the offseason.

734
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: I guess not if you listen to their fan base.

735
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: Should the Red Sox be higher than this? AJ? Are

736
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: you okay with where they rank?

737
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: I guess on this list, I think Red Sox fine

738
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: because Alex Cora, they love Alex Cora. Preslo is fairly new.

739
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: I think they're fine. The Red Sox have changed. It

740
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: used to be a lot of pressure in Boston. Now

741
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: they're the Red Sox. They just I don't know. It's

742
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: different up there. Now you live up there, Alona, you

743
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: know it's different. It's not as pressure packs. And they've

744
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: won those World Series that it used to be.

745
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 2: All right, kp so, a long time umpire is hanging

746
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: up the spikes. Major League Baseball announcing that Phil Couzzy,

747
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: who umpired for twenty seven years and memorably for Mets fans,

748
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: ejected Max Are for the sticky stuff remember back in

749
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. He is retiring. So is Mark Carlson,

750
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: who for twenty six plus years and will now evaluate

751
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: and train umpires for the league. Do you have any

752
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: Phil Pezzy stories or Mark Carlson stories that you want

753
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: to share.

754
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 5: No, you know, it's a weird thing.

755
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: As an outfielder, you don't get to know the umpires

756
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: as well as obviously someone like aj who's who's back

757
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: there with them every single day. It's more of a

758
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 4: passing relationship unless you've had kind of like a heated

759
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 4: moment with him at the plate. I didn't really get

760
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: to know him. I'm that well obviously know who both

761
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: of those guys are.

762
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 5: But congrats on a great career.

763
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: Obviously with the the you know, the challenge system coming in.

764
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: You know, it might be a good time for some

765
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 4: of these umpires that have done it for a long

766
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: time to get out. But twenty six and twenty seven

767
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: years of you know, traveling around and umpiring as long

768
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 4: as they did, and you know the wear and tear

769
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 4: on their body is real too.

770
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 5: So congrats.

771
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: Ohly shit, all right, I don't care what y'all did.

772
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: My son just hit a homer. Oh so, I don't

773
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: really give a shit. Sorry, his first hit in college baseball.

774
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 3: I don't even know I missed it. I was listening,

775
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: I was talking to Cal Rawley. Maybe he rubbed off

776
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: on him. I don't know he did.

777
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 5: He definitely did.

778
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: I literally I literally didn't even my I thought the

779
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: game started at one here, and my mom just text

780
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: me and goes, it's on, and then I turn it

781
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: on and my son's round on the basis circle on

782
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: the police.

783
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: Congratulations. I'm sorry that you missed it, but that that

784
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: is awesome. What do you have any stories a j

785
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: or do you just want to go and watch your kid?

786
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: Who? I know, Phil Couzy, who was the other one.

787
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: Party Carlson, Mark Carlson.

788
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, They're both are great. Uh, Listen, because he

789
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: was a New Yorker, he had that New York attitude, right,

790
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: so there was times where we would go at it.

791
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: But I was also from New York, so I tell

792
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: people when I need it and we'd kind of go

793
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: at it. But in Carlson, I never had a problem

794
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: with Carlson because he every once in a while would

795
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 3: go at it just because he's from New York and

796
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: he'd get that attitude. But listen, congratulations on a great

797
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: career for both of him. I had you guys both

798
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 3: for a long time, so I'm super excited.

799
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a question for you in the spirit

800
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: of the conversations we've had earlier. I'm looking at this

801
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: jersey in my office here. I got a Mark Burley jersey.

802
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: What did he need when you came out to the

803
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: mound when you talked? Nothing he needed to be coddled,

804
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 4: or he need to be yelled at, or you probably

805
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: didn't go out there too much.

806
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: No, he wondered, you know what. I would go out

807
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: to the mount with Mark Burley sometime. I mean never

808
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: never did I yell at him, because I was never

809
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: just gonna yell at him. You know what I got

810
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: on Mark Burley. Most of the time I told him

811
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: a joke, or you would talk about something that was

812
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: going on, like hey, how about where are we going

813
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 3: to dinner tonight? There was never ever like any other stuff.

814
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: It was where are we going to dinner? What are

815
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: we doing? Blah blah blah blah blah. So it was

816
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: never it was never like what am I gonna do?

817
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: Yell at Mark Burley, Hey Burley, you suck. You're only

818
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: throwing eighty five? Like no, Like, dude, that's what he throws.

819
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 5: Did you get it? You've seen a replay?

820
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: Have you seen a replay of the home run yet?

821
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 3: I just watched it too. Oh, get the tape out,

822
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: I love you.

823
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: Got the head out and hit it to the pull side.

824
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 3: Yep, finally.

825
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: Awesome.

826
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 3: All right, Sorry, I got a little excited here.

827
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: All right, you love it? All right. Another bit of

828
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: news here, Ken Rosenthal reporting that free agent Infield of

829
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: Ramonte Ureus is in agreement with the Cardinals on a

830
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: one year, two million dollar contract salary of a million

831
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: and a half in twenty twenty six, five hundred k

832
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: buyout in twenty twenty seven. Mutual option. Deal also includes

833
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: two million incentives based on plate appearances. So there's a

834
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: little bit of news there for the Cardinals. But I

835
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: think both of you are in agreement that the Cardinals

836
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: don't have much of a run in the Central this year. KP.

837
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: We'll start with you no.

838
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: And you know, unfortunately, for a guy like that who's

839
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: probably deserving of being on a major league roster, you

840
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: know how to sit out and wait his turn, and

841
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: you know, with Brandon Donovan being traded, it opened up

842
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: an opportunity for him, so good.

843
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 5: For him signing a big league deal.

844
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: Cardinals probably not going anywhere this year. So you know,

845
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 4: when you are a guy like that who takes an

846
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 4: opportunity with a team that's not expected to go anywhere,

847
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 4: you just try to go on and perform the best

848
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: you can do, and you know, hopefully you become valuable

849
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: at the trade deadline and get a chance to play

850
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 4: for a contending team, and that's just a kind of

851
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: a way to prolong your career.

852
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: I want to say a very special thank you to

853
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: the Seattle Mariners. AJ has been there all morning long,

854
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: but they have been so unbelievably accommodating. It has been unbelievable.

855
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: The amount of guys that we got on this show

856
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: has really been impressive, and for them to take out

857
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: the time to do that for us has been so great.

858
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: We love hearing from players, So thank you Mariners PR staff.

859
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: Thank you to everybody there at the facility for treating

860
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: Foul Territory as well as you did. Alex from their

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Speaker 2: PR team, thank you, thank you, thank you. We cannot

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Speaker 2: tell you how much we appreciate. It makes our show

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Speaker 2: so much better when we have the players on. Don't forget, guys.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday we were at Dodgers camp and we had an

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. So don't forget to check that out.

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Speaker 2: But it's been good to be with you guys. Aj

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Speaker 2: and you guys are at Rangers camp tomorrow and then

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Speaker 2: the calendar continues fast and I'll bringing you a Foul

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Speaker 2: Territory Spring training tour for the remainder of the time.

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Speaker 2: So for Kevin Palar, aj Przinski, aj Son the entire Mariners, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm Alanaizzo and for scot Raun Tricia and whit Marrorfield

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Speaker 2: tomorrow with aideway from Rangers. So take care, everybody. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk soon.