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Speaker 1: with your favorite current and former Seahawks. Russell play fake

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Speaker 1: Turbin in the backfield with Wilson, who goes out of

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Speaker 1: all the way down to the Chargers twenty one yard line,

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Speaker 1: a thirty two yard pickup. Now here's your host, super

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Speaker 1: Bowl forty eight champion, Robert Turbin. Where we know we

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Speaker 1: are back again with another episode of Seahawks Stories, and

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Speaker 1: I'm here with a very special guest. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know how to introduce his back. You know,

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Speaker 1: seemingly are the face of the franchise of the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by none other than Steve Rabel, the

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Speaker 1: Great Steve Rabel. How are we doing today, Turbo. I'm great, terrific.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, considering all of the obstacles out there, the

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Speaker 1: snow and and everything else. Two things. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you were a harm good football player, and it reminded

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Speaker 1: and what a great Oh. The other thing was the

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Speaker 1: a in a huge world a hurt, but thank you,

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Speaker 1: and it's great to be here. And I you know,

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Speaker 1: forward to being able to just sit and chat with

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Speaker 1: you for a while. Yeah. This show is all about,

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Speaker 1: you know, sharing our stories, former and current yall players

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Speaker 1: an honor to have you. I gotta tell you, man,

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Speaker 1: special thing. It's like, I mean, just hearing that highlight

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Speaker 1: for what thirty eight years, I worked at at Cairo

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Speaker 1: We think you can play for us. So I said, fabulous.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'd play for the team that was my

429
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: team growing up. Yeah. And as it turned out, the

430
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: Seahawks as an expansion team, had two bonus picks after

431
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: the second round, so all the first round goes through,

432
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: all the second round goes through, and then US and

433
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay were the two expansion teams that year had

434
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Speaker 1: two bonus picks. So they chose a Sherman Smith out

435
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: of Miami of Ohio running back who ended up becoming

436
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: your coach and Smitty. They actually drafted him as a

437
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver because he was an option quarterback. He was

438
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: a great runner with the ball, so they figured, the

439
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: Seahawks did what, We'll make him a wide receiver. And

440
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: as soon as he came out here for our rookie orientation,

441
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: they took one look at this big guy with the

442
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: long legs and said, no, you're now our tailback and

443
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: that that ended that. And then they took me right

444
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: after that as as wide receiver. So I was gone

445
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: and the Packers ended up taking a wide receiver not

446
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: until the fourth round. But um, you know, it was

447
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: sort of that's the way it happened. Like it's it's

448
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: it's crazy because it's like your dream team had just

449
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: told you we're gonna draft you for sure, and for

450
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 1: most guys, it's like, you know, man, getting drafted, you know,

451
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: getting just getting drafted is the greatest you know, I mean,

452
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: it's a it's a huge blessing, it's a great accomplishment.

453
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: Was there any disappointment? Honestly? When Seattle took you in

454
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: a second, knowing one round later you're gonna go to day. Well,

455
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: i'll tell you the thing that was interesting was in

456
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: those days nineteen seventy six, the spring of seventy six,

457
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: there were no big There was no ESPN. There was

458
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: no ESPN, let alone ESPN coverage of the draft. There

459
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: was none of that. So all I did was I

460
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: had an agent who ended up who turns out he

461
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: was Pepper Rodgers agent. That's how I got him. And

462
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: he said, just sit at home by the phone. So

463
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: I told all my professors on that day, whatever it

464
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: was a Thursday, I think, or a Friday, I'm not

465
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: going to be into class today. I'm going to sit

466
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: at home listen by my rotary phone. There was no

467
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: such thing as cell phones. There was no such thing

468
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: as computers. Nobody carried it on the radio to listen to.

469
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: So my agent had an AP Associated Press teletype in

470
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: his office and he was keeping track of the draft choices.

471
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: So he's the one that saw me pop up as

472
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: a bonus pick in the second round. And he got

473
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Speaker 1: on the phone and called me and said, okay, you

474
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: have just been picked as a bonus pick in the

475
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Speaker 1: second round. By the Seattle Seahawks. And my first round,

476
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Speaker 1: I'm holding the phone. My reaction is, oh great, and

477
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: he said, are you kidding me? Said second round? That's fabulous,

478
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: I said, Seattle. I said, I've never heard of the Seahawks.

479
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: He said this because it's the first year. Yeah. So uh.

480
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: But he said, this is going to be a great

481
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: opportunity for you. They don't have a team. They're gonna

482
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: build around you young guys. And then I started to

483
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: think about him, and I thought, well, you know, hey,

484
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: he's right, that actually is a good opportunity. With Green Bay,

485
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: I'd be going to a team that not too many

486
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: years ago was two time Super Bowl champs. So so

487
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: it turned out that. And then a few minutes later,

488
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: Jack Potera, the head coach, called me, and then the

489
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator called me, Jerry Rome, and said, okay, um,

490
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: we're we're ready for you, and um, you know you're

491
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: all gonna be coming out here. You'll get a call

492
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: from our football ops people. We're gonna bring you all

493
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: out in May for our rookie orientation. Get yourself, make

494
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: sure you're in football shape because we're gonna run you

495
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: through your paces out here. And they boy, they did.

496
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, and that's how I that's how I found out, uh,

497
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: And then you know, the rest is sort of history.

498
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: I came out here, and you know what, I've told

499
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: this story to my white Sharon and I were just

500
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: talking about this the other day, how much the city

501
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: of Seattle has changed even since you played here. The

502
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: city looks so much different. But we'd come in. We

503
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: came in. I had a taxi driver bringing me in

504
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: on Highway ninety nine. So you're kind of coming in

505
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: the back way, and you come down the hill after

506
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: you've left the airport, and you're winding around and suddenly

507
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: the city appears, and there's the sound out on the left.

508
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: There's the city in front of you. And it was

509
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: a pretty decent day, as I remember, and so you

510
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: could see some mountains off in the distance, and there

511
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: was the Kingdome right in the foreground, right in the front,

512
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: at the very south edge of downtown. And I thought, Wow,

513
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: what a beautiful place this is, and what a great

514
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: what a great opportunity it's going to be. And so

515
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: we went in and had our two and a half

516
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: days of practices at the stadium, stayed at the Four

517
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: Seasons downtown in Seattle, and it just it just couldn't

518
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: have started any better for me. And as you said

519
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, I was, I was blessed. Well,

520
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: you play for Seattle from seventy sixty eight. I mean,

521
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: let's get into this, because there much to get into.

522
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: There's not much to get into, buddy, you're with Seattle

523
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: seventy one. Right after your career, you begin broadcasting, and

524
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: we'll get into some of these details here in a minute.

525
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: Forty years with Cairo or thirty eight, you said with

526
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: Cairo TV. Basically forty thirty years as the lead anchor.

527
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you're the longest seahawk ever, seahawk,

528
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: always a seahawk. You literally were there from the beginning.

529
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: Did you ever imagine it playing out this way? No? No,

530
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Um. I knew I had a good education.

531
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: I got my degree from Georgia Tech in the spring

532
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: of seventy six before I came out here, so I

533
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: knew I could always fall back on that. And I

534
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: had some ideas, you know, a business law, some sort

535
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: of management position. I got my degree in industrial management

536
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech. So I knew I had my education,

537
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: and so we get out here and pretty soon. You know,

538
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: the first two years were kind of tough. We were

539
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: two and twelve my rookie season. And I'll tell this

540
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: story quickly because I told you guys on the pregame

541
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: show the other day when somebody said about, you know,

542
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: how do you deal with losing all these games? And

543
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: what are you thinking? And how do you as a

544
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: player react? And I told the story about nineteen seventy six,

545
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, we went back to

546
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: it was either New York of Philadelphia, I don't remember

547
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: which to play our last game of the season, and

548
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: we were at that point two and eleven and very

549
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: likely going to go two and twelve, right, So we

550
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: go back there and in fact we lose, and we're

551
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: one of the one of the guys, one of the

552
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: veterans whose name I will not use, but one of

553
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: the guys in the veteran allocation draft that week told me, hey, rookie,

554
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: whatever you do, don't go don't push it, don't go

555
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: out and get yourself hurt. None of it's not worth it.

556
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: It's the last game of the season, you know, just

557
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: just you know, watch yourself get through, stay away from uh,

558
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, all that stuff, and I kind of thought,

559
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, I said, well, this guy's a pro. He's

560
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: played for five or six years. He knows what he's

561
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: talking about. But we went out there, we played, we lost.

562
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: Coming back on the plane, um Jack Petera had the

563
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: way he did things is all the players sat up

564
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: in the front of the plane and the coaches sat

565
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: in the very back, and so Jack was sitting on

566
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: the in his seat and he would send one of

567
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: the one of the ball one of the ball guys

568
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: up and tap us on the shoulder and brought us

569
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: back one at a time. The young guys. The first

570
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: guy was large, and I think second guy was Zorn.

571
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: Sherman was probably the third. Smitty I was fourth or

572
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: fifth guy that he said, come on back, and so

573
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: I sat down in the seat next to him, and

574
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: he said, Steve, and I, you know, I had an

575
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: okay season. I didn't catch many passes. I caught an

576
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: eighty yard touchdown pass against Minnesota, so I had a

577
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: few catches, and I was on all the special teams,

578
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: and I backed up Largent and Zorn both positions flanker

579
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: and wide out, and played in the tight end slot too.

580
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: When we went blue formation, so I could do all

581
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: those things. He said, Steve, you know it was an

582
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: okay year for your rookie season. He said, we expected

583
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: more out of everybody, and he said me included being

584
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: the coach. But he said, take a look up front.

585
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: You see all those guys up there. I said, yes, sir.

586
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: He said, most of those guys are not going to

587
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: be here next year, but you will be, and the

588
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: nucleus of this team will be and so you have

589
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: to start figuring out how you wanted this team to

590
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: look next year, how we want to play next year,

591
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: how successful we're going to be next year. And so

592
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: in our second year, thanks in large measure to Large

593
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: and Zorn, we were there. We won the we want

594
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: say games, and our third year we went nine and seven,

595
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs by a game, I think, and we're

596
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: the winningest team in the first three years of a

597
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: franchise ever in the history of the NFL. So he

598
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: was right about that. He had put together a pretty

599
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: good nucleus and we were having some good drafts and

600
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: adding to it, and so that made it fun and

601
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: made it exciting, and we played We played a fun

602
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: brand of football. We threw the ball around the yard

603
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: and Smitty ran like crazy. And I can tell you this,

604
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: the year he got hurt, that was a tough year

605
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: on us. Oh man, he was so good and he

606
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: was so smart and such a great such a great person.

607
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I know you you

608
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: think this too. One of the things I always remember

609
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: is yes, I can remember some of the games, and

610
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: I remember the joy of winning on a Sunday afternoon.

611
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: But the thing I remember most are the people and

612
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: the players and my former teammates, of whom I still

613
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: keep in very close touch. I see Zorn on a

614
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: regular bases. Sam Adkins, one of our backup quarterbacks. You know, oh,

615
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: Jacob Green, I see him all the time. These guys

616
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: are their brothers to me and always will be. And

617
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: that that is the greatest gift that Pro football. Well,

618
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: the second greatest gift that Pro football gave me. I'm

619
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: glad you asked. The first was and it wasn't actually

620
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: Pro football that gave it to me, but this opportunity

621
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: to be here in Seattle. We played the Raiders in

622
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, I think we played them both years.

623
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: We were in the AFC West in those years, so

624
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: We played him twice a year for all most all

625
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: of my career, and it was either seventy eight or

626
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: seventy nine. We had beaten them here in Seattle, and

627
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: this was at a time when the Raiders were really good,

628
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, John Madden was the coach. They were they

629
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 1: had great teams. And we beat him here, and so

630
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: we go to Oakland to play him down there, and

631
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: I had I caught a touchdown pass that game, and

632
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: caught about two or three other passes. And we're coming

633
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: down to the end of the game and we're trailing

634
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: by I want to say, we're trailing by a couple

635
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: of points, and we're trying to get into position to

636
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: kick field goal to win the game. We call I

637
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: was lined up in the in the slot as a

638
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: tight end, winged off the right side, and we called

639
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: a crossing route. We had a two layer route Large.

640
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: It was running an end route behind me, and I

641
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: was running the underneath route. And if they jumped me large,

642
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: it was going to pop open. I mean, you know,

643
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: pretty simple. And so I can't see what the guys

644
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: behind me are doing, the safeties or whatever. But I

645
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: crossed the middle and here comes the ball. Toward me.

646
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: It's a little bit behind me, and I start to

647
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: reach back. Well, a guy named Jack Tatum was the

648
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: safety for the Oakland Raiders. Now his nickname was Assassin

649
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: and there was a reason for that, and he hit

650
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: me in the ear hole. And the next thing I remember,

651
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: I was standing on the sidelines with the doctor and

652
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: he was kind of saying, Okay, what's your name. How

653
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: many fingers am I holding up? I said Tuesday. He said, okay,

654
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: you're fine. So I got knocked completely unconscious by by

655
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Jack Tatum. We ended up moving into field goal range.

656
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: Efren Herrera kicks the game winning field goal and we

657
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: go screaming off the field and I have no idea why,

658
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: because I just got knocked unconscious. I go into the

659
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: hospital that night after flying home with the team, and

660
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: I got the wires all attached because they were they

661
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: were afraid I really had a bad concussion. Yeah, it

662
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: turns out I was okay, I was. They saw that

663
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: I was as dumb as they thought they were, and

664
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: there was no issue with a brain injury, so they said, okay,

665
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: you can go home and on Tuesday's like you guys,

666
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: Tuesday's the player's day off. Right. So Monday night was

667
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: the night if you were going to go out and

668
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: have an adult beverage or something with the boys, that's

669
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: when you did it. On Monday, I had agreed to

670
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: go to a dinner party. Had a buddy of mine

671
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: who worked at a radio station, not Cairo Radio, but

672
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: a different radio station, and he said, we want to

673
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: have you over to dinner. I want you to meet

674
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: my wife. Okay, great. So I didn't feel very good,

675
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: and you know I had a bad headache, and you

676
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: know how when you get up concussion you're sick at

677
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: your stomach. But I said, well, I said I'd go,

678
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: so I'd go. It turned out there was one other

679
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: single person invited to that. There were like ten people

680
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: at this dinner party, and there was only one other

681
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: single person, And it turned out that it was somebody

682
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: they wanted me to meet, a young lady. They wanted

683
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: me to meet that young lady has been my wife

684
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: now for forty years. Wow. So the greatest gift I

685
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: got of coming to see Adelin playing football was meeting

686
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: my bride and being married all these years. The second

687
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: greatest gift is being a part of this organization that

688
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: treated us so well. And that has so many guys

689
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: that love this team and come back to this team

690
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: on a regular basis that we can see and talk to.

691
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: And it's and in a city that gave me an

692
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to get into broadcasting, which I'm sure we'll talk about.

693
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: We'll talk about in a second. I want to I

694
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: want to ask one last thing about the expansion. You know,

695
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: we talked about kind of your experience as a player,

696
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: but what was it like in the city. What was

697
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: the vibel You know, we're fans excited about the opportunity

698
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: to have a team, and what were some of the

699
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: challenges you guys faced as a as a as an

700
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: expansion team. The best example I can give you is

701
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: that season tickets sold out literally sixty thousand of in

702
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: a matter of hours. Wow. So Kingdom was was filled.

703
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: The city was just crazy to get NFL football here.

704
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: They had tried on a couple of different occasions and

705
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: the league just didn't expand until they decided to expand.

706
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: So and you had to have the right group of people,

707
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: you know, the north Ardstrom family were the leaders of

708
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: the group, but there were other members of the ownership

709
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: group in those days, and the city was just beside

710
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: itself crazy for football. And yeah, like I said, we

711
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: went to in twelve that first year, and you'd have

712
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: never known it by the fans in the stands. The

713
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: Kingdom was always packed. They were always cheering. It was

714
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: the loudest place in the league to play a football game.

715
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you wouldn't remember, but in the

716
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: it would have been in the early eighties. I retired

717
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: in after the eighty one season, about eighty three eighty four,

718
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: and it was so noisy in the Kingdom. The league

719
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: instituted a rule that if a quarterback stepped back from

720
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage because he couldn't be heard by

721
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: his offensive lineman or wide receivers, the home team would

722
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: have a penalty thrown on him. A flag would be

723
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: thrown on the home team for noisy, And all that

724
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: did was make the fans crazier, right, So they just

725
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: loved having the Seahawks here. And one of the great

726
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: things about that was the opportunity that a guy like

727
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: me had to get out in the community. Because any

728
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: place that a Seahawk went to make an appearance, a

729
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: grade school, a cub scout troop, a rotary club, meeting.

730
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: We had these opportunities, and some of us did everything

731
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: that we were asked to do, and then some we

732
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: were kind of go to guys, and mostly because I

733
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. And after my first couple of seasons, I

734
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: started to get interested in media, and I thought, well,

735
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: how best can I train except getting up in front

736
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: of a group of people and talking at luncheons and

737
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: classroom visits and all that stuff. So it was a

738
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: great opportunity, and the city was just really everybody was

739
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: up for that. Everybody was dying for that kind of stuff.

740
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: So it offered us opportunities in ways that we really

741
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: didn't know when we first started. But as the years

742
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: went on, it became a parent that, yeah, this this

743
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: is a great place, a great city, great fans and

744
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: uh and and wonderful opportunity. It's kind of funny how

745
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: some of those things that were going on in your time.

746
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: You talk about the brotherhood with your teammates, and you

747
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: talk about the fans and how loud the Kingdom you

748
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: know was, and that has sustained even to today's football

749
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, Central Link and now Looming Field and stuff

750
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: like that. Uh. It really, I mean, it's really really

751
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: great to really great to hear. Um. I wanted to

752
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: ask about nineteen eighty one. Okay, that was your final year, um,

753
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: and I think you suffered an injury that year, collapsed

754
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: love from exactly and uh, and so did that play

755
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: a part into your decision to retire And what was

756
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: the transition like for you, you know, going essentially leaving

757
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: football and really stepping right into the broadcasting right, Well,

758
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: it did have an effect. Yeah. It was in preseason

759
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: against the then Saint Louis Cardinals, and I you know,

760
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: how many times have you run an eight yard out route,

761
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: you know, ten thousand times in your career, And on

762
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: this particular occasion, a guy hit me in the back,

763
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: just in the right spot, and then I rolled kind

764
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: of flew off the field, and the guy holding the

765
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: downmarker did not release the downmarker, so I kind of

766
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: bent the downmarker flying into it. And I got up

767
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: and I went back to the huddle, and I was

768
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: starting to have a tough time catching my breath, and

769
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: I ran a couple of takeoff routes, clearing out routes,

770
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, down the signs. By this time, I'm really

771
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: having a hell of a time breathing and I come

772
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: to the sidelines and the trainers just the trainer looked

773
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: at me and he said, oh, you're just out of shape.

774
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: And I said, no, Jimmy, I something's wrong here. I said,

775
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: it feels like somebody stabbing me in my ribs. And

776
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: he said, well, it sounds like a collapse lung. But

777
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: you can't have a collapse lung. Well, sure enough, the

778
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: doctor checked me over and he said, well, let's get

779
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: him in the back and take a look. And they

780
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: actually and said, man, you're lungs collapsed. I said, okay, great,

781
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: So they take me to the hospital and that was

782
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: the end of my season up until Game eight. I

783
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: had to miss the first I went on IR, so

784
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: I had to miss the first eight games. I came

785
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: back played the last eight. Didn't do a whole lot

786
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: because they had a guy who ended up replacing me

787
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: as a rookie that year in that third wide receiver spot,

788
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: and his name was Paul Johns. And you know Paul

789
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: from the organization. He's been there ever since as well.

790
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: And Paul was a terrific receiver and punt returner and

791
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: ended up having his career cut short by injury. So

792
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: but and a great guy and a great teammate, and

793
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: so I came back and I played, but not a

794
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: whole lot. But the good thing for me, Robert, was

795
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: because in those first couple of three years doing all

796
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: those speaking engagements got me lots of interview opportunities on

797
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: radio and television and with the newspaper guys. And pretty

798
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: soon by about my third and fourth year, some of

799
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: the folks at Cairo Radio. You know, at one time

800
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: seven ESPN was Cairo Radio AM, and that was all

801
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: part of the Cairo Umbrella TV. Radio all was in

802
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: one building, so they were they were calling me and saying, hey,

803
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: why don't you come down and co host the sports

804
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: line talk show on Saturday night with the guy who

805
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: does it? And I said, great, I'd love to. So

806
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: I came down and spent three hours with him on

807
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: the air. Then in the off season, they said, how

808
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: would you like to come in and fill in on Wednesday,

809
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday when he's going to be gone two

810
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: hours of live radio sports talking. It was the only

811
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: sports talk show on the air at the time. And

812
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: I said, man, I'd love to, you know, thinking that

813
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: how tough caness be? Well, I learned pretty quickly that

814
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: it was not the easiest thing in the world. I

815
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: had to be prepared and all those things. And then

816
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: the same thing happened on TV side. I started doing

817
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: some commercials and got some opportunities, and then was called, say, hey,

818
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: would you come and fill in for this guy who

819
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: does a half hour talk show five nights a week

820
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: on TV over at Channel five. We'd love to have

821
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: you come down and do that. Or we'd love for

822
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: you to fill in on the morning show two hours

823
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: live TV on Channel five. Come and do that, Come

824
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: and co host telethons at Channel seven. I mean, all

825
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: these opportunities started coming to me, and so I took

826
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: every opportunity. And so by the time my eighty one

827
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: season was over, and also the last game of the season,

828
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: I rolled my ankle on a kickoff coverage and ended

829
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: up spending the holidays in a walking boot because I

830
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: tore some ligaments in my ankle. So it was really

831
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: a terrible year in a terrible way to finish, and

832
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: so I started really looking closely at broadcasting. But by

833
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: that late in that spring, we hired a coach just

834
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: for getting everybody in shape. We didn't have one of

835
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: those guys. Before we didn't have a physical trainer guy.

836
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: Now they had twelve of them. Well, we didn't have them.

837
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: We had a trainer, and then one of the assistant

838
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: coaches would generally help out with that kind of stuff.

839
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: This guy, his name was Joe Vitt, and Joe coached

840
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: in the league for years in New Orleans and other places.

841
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: Joe killed us, absolutely killed us. And I was in

842
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: the best shape of my life. So in June of

843
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two, I'm all set to go to training camp,

844
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: which started in early July. Mid July, and Sharon gets

845
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: a phone call at our house. I'm in Spokane at

846
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: a charity golf tournament, and it's Pete Gross, who is

847
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: the play by play voice of the Seahawks. Pete is

848
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: the guy who had been there since day one, and

849
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: now this is nineteen eight two. So he was the

850
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: guy and he could and he knew me because I

851
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: had done radio work at the station, right, And so

852
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: he called and he says, Sharon, listen. The first thing

853
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: he said was, you know, we know Steve is never

854
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: going to be Steve Largent. And I thought, well, great, Bete, thanks,

855
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a nice way to start the conversation.

856
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: He was right, of course, but he said, but and

857
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: he can probably play another couple of years, but he

858
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: could have a career in broadcasting because as of yesterday,

859
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: meaning nineteen eighty two, we are are the position of

860
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: color analysts on the radio show on the radio broadcast

861
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: just opened up, and we think Steve could do that.

862
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: And the backup sportscaster on TV, that job just opened up.

863
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: And the five night a week magazine show on Channel

864
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: seven Monday through Friday at seven o'clock US opened up.

865
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: The co anchor of that show just opened up. Wow,

866
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: And we think Steve could do all three of those jobs.

867
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: There's only one catch. He's got to quit playing football. Yeah.

868
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: So Sharon said when do you need to know? And uh,

869
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: And he said, well, I'd like to know next week.

870
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: And Sharon said, I'll have him there on Monday. So well,

871
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: and you know, she told me all about the conversation

872
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: and we sat down when I got back and talked

873
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: about it and it was really there was really no

874
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: there was really no decision to be made. I mean,

875
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: it was the it was the smart move here. I

876
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: had an opportunity for a career a lifetime career as

877
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: opposed to maybe playing a couple of more seasons in

878
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: a diminished role, because I knew Paul Johns was now

879
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: moving into that that role as as the backup wide receiver.

880
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: And as it turned out, a guy named Sam McCullum,

881
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: who was this guy who started opposite Steve all those

882
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: six years at wide out. He was the ex Steve

883
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: as the Z and I backed him both up. Sam,

884
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: as it turned out in eighty two, was released by

885
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: the team as well. So if he got released, I

886
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: knew my days were numbered, and so as it turned out,

887
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: it was a good decision to go ahead and retire.

888
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: So that was how and literally within two weeks I

889
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: was working at Cairo and in nineteen eighty two I

890
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: was on radio with the first and in those days

891
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: we had six preseason games, so I was on the

892
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: air with the first preseason game, and then I was

893
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: doing TV stories on the foot on the team as

894
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: well as on the Sonics and everything else that was

895
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: sports in the city, and five nights a week we

896
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: tape the shows. But it was on five nights a

897
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: week doing this magazine show, and that's how I started

898
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: my TV career and I did that all three of

899
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: those jobs. For the first four years I was at Cairo,

900
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: and then the magazine show went away and I was

901
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: made the anchor of the new News, which was an

902
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: hour long newscast at the time, and then it continued

903
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: to do sports, and then pretty soon it all evolved

904
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: into news, and by ninety two I was the main

905
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: news anchor and was that until a year and a

906
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: half ago. Wow wow, man so but but hey, Turbo,

907
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: right place at the right time, and being and being

908
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: lucky that they gave me opportunities to do this, you know,

909
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: they they could have just said, Hey, we're gonna get

910
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: some guy who's got longer here. Honest to God, When

911
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: I first started in the business, I sounded like a

912
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: girl scout and and that's and I don't mean to

913
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: demean girl scouts, because they're fabulous, but by you know,

914
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: I kind of was like this, and I didn't know

915
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: how to really talk. And pretty soon when I reached puberty,

916
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: then everything started to get better and I could I

917
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: could speak a little bit, you know, more distinctly and

918
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: be understood. And the voice kind of lent itself at

919
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: that point to becoming more of a broadcast Esther and

920
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: that's where we are today. But you know it was.

921
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: I just can't tell you how lucky I was to

922
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: have all these opportunities, Honest to God. I mean every

923
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: day I say, I'm blessed. Such an amazing journey man.

924
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: We uh, that's an amazing journey man. We're about We're

925
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: about at our five to ten minute mark. There's a

926
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: couple of questions that I want to ask you though,

927
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: before you know throw the show. One of them said

928
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: that you started as a color analyst before becoming the

929
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: play by play and I'm just curious which which do

930
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: you like better? Did you liked doing the color analysts

931
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: or do you like to play by play stuff better.

932
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: I can tell you that when I started, I liked

933
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: being the analyst because you know, it's right up your alley.

934
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: You're preparing like a guy who's preparing for the game.

935
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: I knew that job. I knew all those things that

936
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: those guys were doing out on the field. But and

937
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to move over to be the

938
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: play by play guy in two thousand and four. Well

939
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: by that time I had been also, as I said,

940
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: the main news anchor at Cairo since ninety two. So,

941
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: and I don't say this with any ego or anything,

942
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: but I got pretty used to being the main guy

943
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: when I was anchoring the news. So at that point

944
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: in football, I figured, you know, I don't have I

945
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: know how to do this job as analyst. There's only

946
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: one other position that would be a step up in

947
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: the broadcast of a pro football game, in the play

948
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: by play, and that is the play by play seat.

949
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: And again, as luck would have it, the Seahawks had

950
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: an opportunity to hire Warren Moon as the color analyst.

951
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: Now here was a guy who was going to go

952
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: in literally the following year went into the Hall of Fame,

953
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: one of the great NFL quarterbacks of all times from

954
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: the University of Washington. So the Seahawks came to me.

955
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: Mike Homeriden was the coach at that time, and of

956
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: course mister Allen was still the owner of the team,

957
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: and the general manager came and they can you do this?

958
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: We have this opportunity. Do you think you can do

959
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: play by play? And I said, just give me a chance,

960
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 1: And so I practiced. I had. I went and sat

961
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: in a room at the old Seahawks facility and they

962
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: put game film up on the screen, and I just

963
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: worked at it, and pretty soon preseason rolled around and

964
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: we did the preseason games and they started to feel comfortable,

965
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: and then more and more, and once we got into

966
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: the regular season, and I had people I talked to,

967
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: people who would listen and critique me and say, here's what, okay,

968
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: try this. In fact, there was a guy here in

969
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: the in the radio market of Seattle. Ask any old

970
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: timer in this city who Pat O'Day was. Pat O'Day

971
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: was one of the great, one of the great disc

972
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: jockeys of all times. He's in the Rock and Roll

973
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in Cleveland as a radio disc jockey,

974
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 1: and he had he sponsored concerts here. He and Jimmy

975
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 1: Hendricks were literally like this, and he virtually discovered Jimmy Hendricks. Anyway,

976
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: Pat was a good friend, and he did hydroplane races

977
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: and all kinds of things on radio, and he would

978
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: help critique me. And he's the one who said, after

979
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: my first year, he said, you know, when you call

980
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: a touchdown, why don't you extend that a little bit,

981
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Why don't you say touchdown Seahawks and just kind of

982
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: let it breathe and let the fans kind of get

983
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: that excitement. That was suggestion from him, and I've been

984
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: doing it ever since and it's now it's just part

985
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: of my I mean, in my DNA. Yeah right. But

986
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: one thing I always learned, I was always coachable. I mean,

987
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, just like a sponge. I learned from all

988
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: the people that I worked with at Cairo Television. I

989
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: learned from Pete Gross listening to him, watching him, watching

990
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: how he prepared, how did he call a game, how

991
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: much fun he made the game, And that's the whole idea.

992
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: And like the other day, you know, the loss to

993
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: the Bears, my job is to find a way to

994
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: make those exciting plays exciting and try not to get

995
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, disappointed as we all were in the outcome

996
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: of the game. And it's tough to do because you know,

997
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: as a player, and you know all those guys that

998
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: are playing, and I know what they're trying to do,

999
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: and I know Pete in their system, the last thing

1000
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: they want to do is go out there and lose

1001
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: a football game. And they're trying, they're busting their butts,

1002
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't win them. And this season has

1003
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: been a real route awakening for fans and players and

1004
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 1: everybody alike that you know, sometimes you're you're you're gonna

1005
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: have a season like this, and you know it's time

1006
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: to kind of retool a little bit, regroup and and

1007
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: find yourself next season. But again, so I got that

1008
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: opportunity and it's been a great blessing and I now

1009
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: I love it. Could I go back and be the analyst,

1010
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: I probably could, but I'd probably at this point say,

1011
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, we'll let Turbo be the analyst, and we'll

1012
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: let Big Ray do the play by play and I'll

1013
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: ride off into the sunset on in my little wheelchair scooter.

1014
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: There you go, or the other way around. Because I

1015
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: think Ray probably does a good job analyzing the game.

1016
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: I think I do a good job too, But I

1017
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: think I could bring some juice calling it. Would you

1018
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: like to do that? Would you like to do play

1019
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: by play? I would do that. I play party. The

1020
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: only way you can do it is to work at

1021
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: it right now, you know, get opportunities and just and

1022
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: just do it. And because you know, I mean, I

1023
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: know I'm not going to be doing this job forever,

1024
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: and there is something about having a former player do

1025
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: play by play in my time having done this now

1026
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: since two thousand and four is play by play. There

1027
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: are only three guys who were former players that moved

1028
00:55:55,080 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: from the analyst job into play by play coincidentally, all

1029
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: three wide receivers. And what that says. I don't know

1030
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: what that says about us, but I guess we're always

1031
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: looking for attention. But Jimmy Cephalo in Miami, Dave Logan

1032
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: in Denver, and myself and so we all say the

1033
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: same thing as when we talk, and that is that

1034
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: job as being the analyst was invaluable because it got

1035
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: us that opportunity to I know, I can carry the

1036
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: conversation during the live broadcast, and I know football well

1037
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: enough that I can make I can make sense of

1038
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: what's happening on the field. Now, the only question is

1039
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: can you translate that into phrasing and verbiage that the

1040
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: listener A wants to listen to and B can follow

1041
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: you and see can excite them and get them so

1042
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: that they're just absolutely wanting to jump through the radio

1043
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: dial to be a part of that broadcast. And that's

1044
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: the fun part. And I have no doubt that you

1045
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: could do that all right, last question, even though like

1046
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: fifteen more, really sorry, I apologize at it. I get going. No,

1047
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: it's all good, It's all good. But I'd be remissed

1048
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: if I didn't ask about um this because you know,

1049
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: I want to ask about your you know, best member

1050
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: of Seattle even that's probably a tough question, and you

1051
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: know things that you're most proud of. It's probably meeting

1052
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: your wife, uh but uh. And you know, there's been

1053
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: so many different errors of football here in Seattle with

1054
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: coach Terry and Coach Knox and Homegren and Carolyn Man.

1055
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: I would love to see you've seen it all each one,

1056
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: and so to get your kind of your scope of

1057
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: what each Arab meant to the franchise would be great.

1058
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: But we'll save that one for another time. The question

1059
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: I want to ask you is you've called three different

1060
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, and so what did super Bowl forty eight,

1061
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: the one that we won, uh mean to you? I

1062
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: can't tell you terrible how that meant having been there

1063
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: from day one, to be a part of the organization

1064
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: that and to be able then to sit up there

1065
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: in the press box and watch you guys play and

1066
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: be so dominant for the entire season and then again

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Speaker 1: through the playoffs. When she got past San Francisco, right

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00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: on into the Super Bowl and just just annihil a Denver.

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Speaker 1: It was so so satisfying, so amazing, so fulfilling to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the organization and to know all

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00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: of the people that I have known over all these

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00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: years that were also longtime members of the club, people

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Speaker 1: like Gary Wright, who was so instrumental to me becoming

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: a broadcaster and a play by play guy. Sandy Gregory,

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00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: who I know you have done, you did charity stuff

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00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: with and for for so many years. She was part

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00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: of the organization for over thirty years. You know, there

1078
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: are just so many of these folks. To win it,

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Speaker 1: and to have John Nordstrom be there and be a

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00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: part of it, who was one of the owners when

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00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: I came on board in seventy six, there were just

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00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: so many of those those folks, and in forty eight

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00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: is Super Bowl forty eight. To win it the way

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00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: you did it, first of all, and the huge satisfaction,

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00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: the joy of being able to call the game. I'm

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00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: often asked what's your favorite call, because I've done so

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00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: I've had, you know, I had beast Quake, both beast

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00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: Quake runs, as you know, but my favorite call of

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00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: all time was twelves, they're bringing the trophy home. You

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00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: were Seahawks super Bowl forty eight champions, one of the

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00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: last things I said before the clock actually ticked down

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00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: in New York that night. My favorite call of all

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00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: times because it was the first and only call, the

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00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: only time that the Seahawks could ever say we're Super

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00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: Bowl champions on this night. So that meant a lot

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00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: to me. And running a very close second to that

1097
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: was your parade a couple of days later. To be

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01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: on one of those uh cars and what wagons duck

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01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: mobile and to ride through the streets and we froze

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01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: our butts off, as I remember, but and and and um,

1101
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: what's his name, beast Mode? Marshawn refused to give me

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Speaker 1: any of his hennessy, So I knew I was gonna

1103
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna just be freezing that day.

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01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: So but but the satisfaction of looking up those and

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01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: you know what, you saw it looking up those side streets,

1106
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: and it was wall to wall people. And the best

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01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: thing about it, Turbot was every age, every you know, men, women,

1108
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: every gender, every every race and creed and color age group,

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Speaker 1: all side by side, all there for one thing to celebrate,

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: celebrate the city, the team, the championship. That meant so

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01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: much because I've been in Seattle for so long and

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01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: it really did my heart good to just look out

1113
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: and see all those people and what it meant to

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Speaker 1: all of them. It to this day, it just it

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01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: brings me to a point because it the title meant

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01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: so much. And then you know, the guys gave me

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Speaker 1: a ring. They said, here, you deserve a ring, and

1118
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: I thought, no, I don't, but they said, no, you do,

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01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: so here you go. So I got one, probably not

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: quite as good as yours, but I gotta. I got

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Speaker 1: a ring out of it, and I and and that's

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01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: that's a that's a plus. So you know, again, as

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Speaker 1: I said when we first started, I'm blessed and uh

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: and lucky to be here and hope to be able

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Speaker 1: to do it for a few more years. You know,

1126
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm shooting for fifty I'm shooting for fifty years.

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: That's a nice round number. With the organization, this is

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Speaker 1: forty six. And nobody wants to end. Nobody wants to

1129
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: end it on a way this this season has ended,

1130
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: So we want to come back and and retool and

1131
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: get set for next year. And I love working with

1132
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: Pete uh and you know, Russ and the guys. I've

1133
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 1: gotten to know so many young guys like yourself. It's

1134
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: just been a real treat. Awesome man. Well, Steve, thanks

1135
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: so much for taking the time to hop on Seahawks

1136
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: stories and uh, you know, sure your an amazing journey

1137
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: with this man. I man, I feel so fulfilled just

1138
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: hearing all the things that you went through and accomplished

1139
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: and still doing it, you know, And so I really

1140
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Well from from a couple of guys little

1141
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: leaguers for the Bears who did not go to Notre Dame, right, Um,

1142
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, right. And all I can tell you,

1143
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: Turbo is you've done a magnificent job. You You really

1144
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: have taken to this. I'm proud of you. I would

1145
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: not have known, Matt when you played that you that

1146
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: you'd be this good at it. But I'm I'm constantly

1147
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: amazed at all of you guys that stepped forward, You

1148
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: and Ray and Moyer's been doing it for years, and

1149
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: Brian Walters who came on board and does it, you know,

1150
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: and Bump. I mean, I'm just so proud of all

1151
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: you guys, and you do a great job. And for

1152
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: those of us old broadcasters, you make us uh, you know,

1153
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: we have a lot of pride in you, so keep

1154
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: it up. Well. They'll hesitate to share any advice with me,

1155
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: Man mass Every week he sends me a copy of

1156
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: the broadcast, and I'm always texting them to say, hey,

1157
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: would you think? And he's always giving me coaching points man,

1158
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: and I and I really take I really take heath

1159
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: to those things. So you know, I want to be

1160
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: the best that I can be, you know. But for you,

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: it's good for you. And he's a good coach. So

1162
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: listen to him and keep after it, and you'll you'll

1163
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: do anything you want to do in this business. All right.

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Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen. That was another episode of

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Speaker 1: Seahawks Stories. Stayed to tune in, don't forget to hit

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Speaker 1: the subscribe button. More episodes to come till next time.

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Speaker 1: He's