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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 1: This is episode one hundred and nineteen of Native lampod
Speaker 1: where we give you our breakdown of all.
Speaker 2: Things politics and culture.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Angela Rye, joined by my co host
Speaker 1: Andrew Gilliman Bacari Sellers, as well as our dear brother.
Speaker 2: And guest ho host for this week, the Reverend doctor Jamal.
Speaker 1: I bought the dress, Bryant.
Speaker 2: I'll be saying that for no reason.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 2: I just want you to know I bought the dress
Speaker 2: for no reason.
Speaker 4: It haunts me to this.
Speaker 3: Get out of here.
Speaker 5: Welcome this shit, Welcome.
Speaker 4: Welcome, thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you'll got dress because.
Speaker 2: I told carry I'm taking a dress. Now.
Speaker 3: I'm glad y'all got dressed up. It's mine for the right,
Speaker 3: for the right. Reverend the come on the show. I
Speaker 3: put on my best usher board outfit. I got my shirt.
Speaker 4: You look like a d K job.
Speaker 5: Hell the Stewart, it's here in the Stewart corn.
Speaker 1: He needs to be an elder as old as the ex,
Speaker 1: as old as the ex. We're so happy to have you,
Speaker 1: and we are thrilled to jump right into the show.
Speaker 1: We added a new segment, Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant called
Speaker 1: situational Awareness. Yes for your situational awareness, and it's always
Speaker 1: because we have news you can use.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna jump right into.
Speaker 1: In January, the North Carolina Board of Elections advanced voter
Speaker 1: suppression causes by removing three polling sites on three college campuses,
Speaker 1: Western Carolina University, North Carolina and T and the UNC Greensboro.
Speaker 1: Last week, a judge ruled against student plaintiffs, refusing to
Speaker 1: allow the schools to retain the early voting sites, and
Speaker 1: some students responded in kind, let's roll the clip.
Speaker 5: You profiled us, you profiled us, you targeted us. You
Speaker 5: took away our accessibility to vote.
Speaker 4: You took away our accessibility to vote.
Speaker 6: You took away our accessibility to vote.
Speaker 5: All the benefit. Virginia Fox, Virginia Fox.
Speaker 6: But you will see us and you will feel us.
Speaker 4: But you will see us, and you will feel.
Speaker 5: Us, and you will feel us.
Speaker 7: I'm kyer Creek Moore and I'm running for the US
Speaker 7: House in North Carolina's fifth Congression.
Speaker 3: Editar join the.
Speaker 1: Movement, Shatay said, not only take our bowling site. But
Speaker 1: we gonna run somebody for office against you. I love
Speaker 1: to see it. WHI y'all got?
Speaker 3: I mean it's somebody who Yeah, somebody who ran when
Speaker 3: they were twenty one years old. I'm all four. And
Speaker 3: people are afraid of young people. Every college campus I
Speaker 3: go to, I ask one question of everybody when I speak,
Speaker 3: I say, is there a polling site on your campus?
Speaker 3: And most elected officials are deathly afraid of having young
Speaker 3: people have polling sites on their campus because they know
Speaker 3: they're going to show up and show out. And so
Speaker 3: Kyle Creek Moore, let me know when we knocking on
Speaker 3: doors what we need to do, brother, because I appreciate
Speaker 3: your energy, and I appreciate the way that you are
Speaker 3: mobilizing young people. In the mind frame of another North
Speaker 3: Carolina Anti State University grad, none other than Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 1: Love it, love it, Okay, We're gonna move right along.
Speaker 1: Then to last week, In a two hundred eighteen, two
Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen roll called vote, the United States House
Speaker 1: of Representatives passed the Save Act for a second time.
Speaker 1: The bill, which requires ID and proof of citizenship and
Speaker 1: proof of citizenship, let's be clear, now makes its way
Speaker 1: to the Senate, despite the fact that it is already
Speaker 1: illegal for non citizens to vote. According to the League
Speaker 1: of Women Voters, compared to white US citizens, citizens of
Speaker 1: color are three times more likely to lack documents such
Speaker 1: as birth certificates, passports, naturalization certificates, or certificates of citizenship
Speaker 1: or face difficulties accessing them. For example, while approximately half
Speaker 1: of all American adults possess a passport, two thirds of
Speaker 1: black Americans do not. Senator Chris Murphy had something to
Speaker 1: say about the Save Act coming to the Senate.
Speaker 2: Let's roll it.
Speaker 8: So Republicans have this bill to Save Act. It just
Speaker 8: passed the House of Representatives, it's on its way to
Speaker 8: the Senate, and it stands for one thing. They're trying
Speaker 8: to stop your right to vote. Republicans believe that Donald
Speaker 8: Trump won the twenty twenty election, and frankly, they believe
Speaker 8: that anytime a Democrat wins an election it must be
Speaker 8: because of fraud. They have no evidence of that claim
Speaker 8: because it's made up. The fact of the matter is,
Speaker 8: our elections in this country are wildly clean. There are
Speaker 8: very few, if any, actual cases of fraud in most elections,
Speaker 8: and when you find them, it's on the margins, one
Speaker 8: or two people that shouldn't have voted here or there.
Speaker 8: But Republicans want you to want you to believe that
Speaker 8: this is an epidemic.
Speaker 9: It isn't.
Speaker 8: But what they really want to do is just stop
Speaker 8: you from voting. So they're going to use this claim
Speaker 8: that there's fraud in our elections to pass the Save Act,
Speaker 8: which will make it way harder for you to vote.
Speaker 8: One of the things the Save Act does is to
Speaker 8: require your birth certificate to have your existing name on it. Well,
Speaker 8: for a lot of married women, your birth certificate right
Speaker 8: doesn't have have your married name, and so millions of
Speaker 8: women in this country are basically disqualified from voting. It
Speaker 8: requires you to produce when you register a birth certificate
Speaker 8: or a passport. We don't do that now, and that's
Speaker 8: how millions of Americans registered to vote online. But now
Speaker 8: online registration may be completely eliminated. The bill requires states
Speaker 8: every thirty days to purge their voter files of people,
Speaker 8: for instance, who haven't voted in a while. So if
Speaker 8: you're just busy and you haven't voted in the last
Speaker 8: couple elections, you might show up to vote in the
Speaker 8: next presidential election. And your name's gone because what they're
Speaker 8: trying to do is just take you off the rolls.
Speaker 8: This is absurd. It's all built on a lie that
Speaker 8: elections are being stolen by some cabal of Democrats and
Speaker 8: Nicholas Maduro and George Soros and whoever else. But it's
Speaker 8: really all about just trying to stop you from being
Speaker 8: able to vote. That's why we have to stop the
Speaker 8: Save Act in the United States Senate. That's what I'm
Speaker 8: going to be working on over the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: What do y'all have on that one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're one step away from how many
Speaker 4: bubbles are in a soap bar, that we're making the
Speaker 4: electric slide backwards. And I think it's apropos that you
Speaker 4: look at the infringement because of all of the things
Speaker 4: bocard that people will talk about Revend Jackson, is that
Speaker 4: what should not be discounted was the numbers of people
Speaker 4: organized to register the vote in four and eighty eight.
Speaker 4: It pulled in a hailstorm of black elected officials around
Speaker 4: the country who were elected because of his mobilization. And
Speaker 4: I want to hinge a wagon on the first clip
Speaker 4: is we spend a lot of energy around voter registration
Speaker 4: and get out the vote, and not enough energy preparing
Speaker 4: people to run for office. So for what that young
Speaker 4: student is doing in North Carolina, I'm excited and I
Speaker 4: hope that it catches on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I couldn't agree with you more regudd
Speaker 5: the first clip training up and also just helping people
Speaker 5: get in touch with their ideological belief system, like what
Speaker 5: do we stand for? What are we trying to do?
Speaker 5: What do we want to have changed by way of
Speaker 5: us having served? What do we want to be different
Speaker 5: as a result of this save Act is really it's
Speaker 5: not a problem in search of a solution. It's a
Speaker 5: solution in search of a problem. It'd be one thing
Speaker 5: if we had tens of thousands, even thousands of people
Speaker 5: or votes rather after each election being determined to have
Speaker 5: been illegally cast. But in most cases it's not even
Speaker 5: that the vote. That that a person has voted illegally
Speaker 5: is that they have inadvertently registered to vote or have
Speaker 5: been registered to vote, because many d mbs will put
Speaker 5: you on the rolls should you sign the consent, and
Speaker 5: people find themselves unaware that they had gotten registered and
Speaker 5: may later learn that they were not legally registered. Most
Speaker 5: the issues around votes in illegal voting taking place is
Speaker 5: caught at the registration process, and even there there are
Speaker 5: not significant numbers. So we're talking about a few hundred
Speaker 5: votes in the entire country over the last ten years
Speaker 5: were later determined to have been of votes cast that
Speaker 5: should not have been cast, and in truth, not enough
Speaker 5: to change the outcome of the election almost anywhere, not
Speaker 5: enough to change the outcome of the election. So this
Speaker 5: is a ruse. This is an attempt to disqualify as
Speaker 5: many women because women oftentimes when married changed their last name,
Speaker 5: the birth certificate doesn't match the last name that they
Speaker 5: have now. They then have to write to the government
Speaker 5: in the state in which they were born asked for
Speaker 5: them to produce a birth certificate that then matches. Then
Speaker 5: get with the state Secretary of state or whoever keeps
Speaker 5: documents for the state and the state that they may
Speaker 5: live in and figure out how they make reconciliation of
Speaker 5: all of these different documents. And I don't know about y'all,
Speaker 5: but I tried to get a Social Security card because
Speaker 5: I had misplacedmined and I will tell you I got
Speaker 5: two different cards sent to me with two different middle names.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: Not one of them had the same middle name, and
Speaker 5: so then I had to go physically into the office,
Speaker 5: spend hours in waiting rooms until I could see an
Speaker 5: administrator would then work with me because I had requested
Speaker 5: a per certificate as well to then make this document right.
Speaker 5: Can you just imagine the burden that we are putting
Speaker 5: on people to frankly address a problem that is not
Speaker 5: a problem. Yeah, So it's a shame, and it's a sham.
Speaker 5: By the way, it's a sham, and it's an intention
Speaker 5: to keep out people from voting.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of sham, so is the Secretary of the
Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security. I know you had something for her,
Speaker 1: Andrew Gillum.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean we got a clip of her, y'all.
Speaker 5: You probably may have seen her given commentary about what
Speaker 5: she believes her expanded role as Homeland Security Secretary and
Speaker 5: being over ice and the borders. Listen to what she
Speaker 5: has to say, and then let's try to clarify for
Speaker 5: her what her job responsibilities actually are.
Speaker 10: Elections is another one of those critical infrastructure responsibilities that
Speaker 10: I have as well, and I would say that many
Speaker 10: people believe that it may be one of the most
Speaker 10: important things that we need to make sure we trust
Speaker 10: is reliable and that when it gets to election day,
Speaker 10: that we've been proactive to make sure that we have
Speaker 10: the right people voting, electing the right leaders to lead
Speaker 10: this country through the days that we have knowing that
Speaker 10: people can trust it.
Speaker 5: Y'all, you know that's loaded, right, So I should let
Speaker 5: y'all go on about the right people voting right, get
Speaker 5: the right people voting to elect the right people. That's
Speaker 5: the Homeland Security secretary who believes that she has been
Speaker 5: invested with the powers of running elections in the countr.
Speaker 5: So here's the fact check. She has not been invested
Speaker 5: with the powers of running elections in the country. She
Speaker 5: has a responsibility in the development of the Department of
Speaker 5: Homeland Security. The Secretary is responsible for what is called
Speaker 5: the continuity of government. Should there be some cataclysmic event
Speaker 5: that takes out the president, the line of succession, a
Speaker 5: nuclear attack, or some other unforeseen circumstance that removes the
Speaker 5: power structure, the federal power structure, they are tasked by
Speaker 5: law to have a continuity of government. What would happen
Speaker 5: in such circumstance that the line of secession is wiped
Speaker 5: and you've got to keep the government running in some
Speaker 5: form or fashion that typically involves bureaucrats, people who know
Speaker 5: how to create these sorts of systems, researchers who produce
Speaker 5: these kinds of medicines and medical research, other administrators. People
Speaker 5: can keep up a basic function of government. Elections, however,
Speaker 5: through the Constitution and through everything where we've been taught
Speaker 5: so far as I know, are is a power that
Speaker 5: is to that of the state, and quite frankly, the
Speaker 5: state then develops that power further down to municipalities, most
Speaker 5: often at the county level. There are over one hundred
Speaker 5: thousand municipalities or governmental functions that are responsible for the
Speaker 5: conducting of any federal election at any particular point in time,
Speaker 5: over one hundred thousand agencies, and each one of them,
Speaker 5: by and large are operating by a different and unique
Speaker 5: set of circumstances, rules, guidelines, with only probably two major
Speaker 5: interventions by the federal government. It was the Save America
Speaker 5: Act and it was something like help America Vote. If
Speaker 5: y'all remember after the two thousand election tobacco, there were
Speaker 5: some guidance given to help states update their counting materials
Speaker 5: on and so forth. So the Secretary again has overstepped
Speaker 5: her boundaries. She has no responsibility for the elections of
Speaker 5: anyone at any level of government, federal, state, local, municipal.
Speaker 5: She's responsible for the continuity of government, which all of
Speaker 5: us out of shutter at the thought of any way.
Speaker 5: But it's generally a document that's passed on from secretary
Speaker 5: to secretary, so hopefy she don't screw around with it,
Speaker 5: somebody else has to hit this.
Speaker 3: Can I throw one fact out there real quick, because Andrew,
Speaker 3: you covered a lot of ground right there. But back
Speaker 3: in November, her office did find that there was one,
Speaker 3: as they called them, criminal alien who voted despite not
Speaker 3: being a United States Senate, United States citizen. So in
Speaker 3: the entire election, they found one criminal alien. That's their words,
Speaker 3: not mine. But as it turns out, that person actually
Speaker 3: had a green card and voted for Donald Trump three times.
Speaker 3: So I just want to I just wanted to throw
Speaker 3: that little fact check out there for you. You can't
Speaker 3: make it up, reverend, reverend doctor. I wanted to throw
Speaker 3: that fact check out. There's a New York Times article
Speaker 3: by the one and only Jonathan Carl who went through
Speaker 3: this and profiled how DHS had this huge thing about
Speaker 3: the about the criminal alien who voted multiple times in Kansas.
Speaker 3: He's now being prosecuted by the Kansas Attorney General for
Speaker 3: three counts of voting without being qualified in three counts
Speaker 3: of election perjury.
Speaker 1: Well, you said Andrew screwing around, and so speaking of that,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and filew this next one under
Speaker 1: they doing way too much.
Speaker 2: It's the twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Hundred Olympians who allegedly went through ten thousand condoms and
Speaker 1: it had not yet been a week.
Speaker 2: Happy that sound like that?
Speaker 3: Sound like graves? Hall?
Speaker 9: Hold on?
Speaker 5: Hold on?
Speaker 1: So I want you all to hear with this Olympic
Speaker 1: medalist and figure skater, Adam Rippon, who's also a podcaster.
Speaker 1: Now he has an answer to some of our questions
Speaker 1: about how they move in through these condoms.
Speaker 11: What's happening everyone, I'm Adam Rippon, and I have some
Speaker 11: questions that Winter Olympians get asked all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm going to answer them.
Speaker 11: What really goes down in the Olympic village. Well, obviously
Speaker 11: I've heard a lot about the condoms. Who hasn't I
Speaker 11: wanted to know where are all these condoms? Well, I
Speaker 11: did eventually find them in the medical tent. Now, in
Speaker 11: my mind it was this like, you know, lavish sort
Speaker 11: of experience, but really it was just like a basket
Speaker 11: filled with condoms that said in Korean generic condom, No
Speaker 11: Olympic rings, no fanfare, no frills. How do the athletes
Speaker 11: go through so many? I'll tell you how I went
Speaker 11: through so many because I took that basket of condoms
Speaker 11: and I opened my backpack and I shoved the whole
Speaker 11: maybe three thousand of them in my backpack, and I
Speaker 11: gave those to my friends as souvenirs. I think like
Speaker 11: the real Shenanigans are happening at the summer Games, because
Speaker 11: if you look at those athletes, they're basically naked and
Speaker 11: it's warm outside. I don't know what you think you're
Speaker 11: getting into at a cold place, you're in a parka.
Speaker 11: They already set you up so that there's too many
Speaker 11: layers to go through.
Speaker 1: I thought, this is so funny, and I do want
Speaker 1: to just take a moment to shout out the Olympics
Speaker 1: Committee for encouraging safety over everything since nineteen eighty.
Speaker 4: Eight, three thousand.
Speaker 2: They provided them.
Speaker 1: They were they were trying to provide a pathway to
Speaker 1: you know, protection to safety.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, at least the athletes give free health care.
Speaker 4: So these are overachieve a guys and a whole lot
Speaker 4: of others do not have.
Speaker 5: So these people have been overachieving all their life. Why
Speaker 5: wouldn't they continue to overachieve? You know, the Olympians need
Speaker 5: love too.
Speaker 1: It sound like they still. He then sold thirty thousand
Speaker 1: of them. Talking about he brought took him to his friends.
Speaker 4: Versuon, I wish somebody would get First of all, I've
Speaker 4: never heard of a condom as a supers what I
Speaker 4: was going to say, I wish somebody would give.
Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like they like that in his
Speaker 2: friend group.
Speaker 1: He said, if I ain't got nothing else to take you,
Speaker 1: it ain't no pins, it ain't no shirts, it ain't
Speaker 1: no He's like, I'll.
Speaker 2: Thank you what I mean?
Speaker 5: And he said they were in Korean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said they said condom in Korean, So they're that.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: They might try to erase our history, but we make
Speaker 1: more anyway. For the first time in history, five black
Speaker 1: surgeons are leading the trauma unit at Johns Hopkins Medical
Speaker 1: Center in Baltimore. Let's roll this black excellence clip.
Speaker 12: Finally, the doctor is behind a different type of medical breakthrough.
Speaker 12: Take a good look at these five doctors. More than
Speaker 12: a portrait, it's a moment suspended in history. For the
Speaker 12: first time, five African American surgeons now lead the trauma
Speaker 12: service at the pre eminent Johns Hopkins Hospital. Tonight we
Speaker 12: hear from some of the trailblazers behind this historic team.
Speaker 6: My parents are so proud. I am the first physician
Speaker 6: in my family, and I think it's so impactful.
Speaker 12: For doctor Lawrence Brown, medicine is more than science. It's service.
Speaker 6: That's what's important to me. Equity has to remain at
Speaker 6: the forefront of how we deliver patient care, how we
Speaker 6: do research, how we scale programs up in our healthcare system.
Speaker 12: Doctor Zachary Numa is a result of service that was
Speaker 12: modeled and purpose that was inherited.
Speaker 13: Growing up in Columbus, Georgia in the nineteen nineties, I
Speaker 13: watched my parents, my mom a family medicine doc, my
Speaker 13: dad a general surgeon, show up to serve patients every day.
Speaker 12: For doctor E. Fae Sciombo, history isn't just remembered here,
Speaker 12: it's carried forward.
Speaker 14: The best part is that I get to save lives
Speaker 14: and have an impact every single day to anyone who's watching.
Speaker 14: Realize that your dream and capacity can only be limited
Speaker 14: by you, and if you can think it, see it,
Speaker 14: then you can absolutely reach it.
Speaker 2: I love it, proud of them any reflection, y'all.
Speaker 5: I would just say, for those who want to kick
Speaker 5: immigrants out or not let them in the first place,
Speaker 5: I'd be curious. I don't know the places of origin
Speaker 5: for all of the doctors there, but I could I
Speaker 5: think I could see that there were two who probably
Speaker 5: were from the continent or through their lineage with their parents.
Speaker 5: I could tell one by the head scarf representing one
Speaker 5: of an African country. So I just think we've got
Speaker 5: brilliant people who come from all over the world, and
Speaker 5: it's true in every profession. I'm proud of these brothers
Speaker 5: and I, you know, and sister, I wish them well.
Speaker 5: But just think again, when we want to push people
Speaker 5: so quickly out of this country, stop folks and coming in,
Speaker 5: how much this nation has grown, been built, sustained expanded
Speaker 5: by the you know, the teachings, the talents and creativity
Speaker 5: of people from all over the world.
Speaker 3: Let me just remind people who are listening that at
Speaker 3: last checking, I may be off by a half a
Speaker 3: percent or maybe a full percent, but about five five
Speaker 3: and a half percent of all doctors in this country
Speaker 3: are black. That number, because of the actions by the
Speaker 3: Trump administration, by the cowardice of some of these major institutions,
Speaker 3: is going to go down. That is an unfortunate reality
Speaker 3: we face. This is why we have to make sure
Speaker 3: that we're strengthening our HBCUs. Because of that five and
Speaker 3: a half percent, six percent, fifty percent of that number
Speaker 3: have graduated from our historically black colleges and universities. And
Speaker 3: my dad would always say, why are you trying to
Speaker 3: go somewhere where they don't want you anyway? And so
Speaker 3: I just want us to remember, as as young people
Speaker 3: are making these very difficult decisions about college, make sure
Speaker 3: you give the Xaviers of the world, the Florida and
Speaker 3: ms I Guess of the world. The more houses those
Speaker 3: individuals who have a history of producing doctors, give them
Speaker 3: a look. If your child wants to be a doctor,
Speaker 3: And if you're in a lum of that institution, instead
Speaker 3: of writing your five or ten dollars check a month,
Speaker 3: maybe one month, just use your drinking budget, you know,
Speaker 3: write one hundred and fifty dollars check, you know, a
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty dollars check. And so I think
Speaker 3: that this is a lesson of our excellence, but also
Speaker 3: shows how much we have to you know, Ecclesiastes chapter three,
Speaker 3: Reverend says that there's a time and a season for everything.
Speaker 3: But you got a water. You got a water, what
Speaker 3: you've what you've sown in order for it to grow.
Speaker 3: And so hopefully we want our HBCU so we can
Speaker 3: continue to put forth great individuals like these. Five kudos
Speaker 3: and hats off to them.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: I wanted to challenge a real re evaluation for the
Speaker 4: community with our healthcare professionals, with the attack on healthcare
Speaker 4: and Black people in an inordinate way of dying from
Speaker 4: pre existing conditions. I wanted to challenge our churches that
Speaker 4: we really have a health ministry in place. And I
Speaker 4: often say the Black Church is the only place in
Speaker 4: the world where you can volunteer to be a nurse.
Speaker 4: They don't know how to do CPR, they don't know
Speaker 4: how to do the high liver maneuver. They just got
Speaker 4: a pocket full of mints. But we got to make
Speaker 4: sure that we equipment. We got to equip the church
Speaker 4: so that we can get that information, and we need
Speaker 4: our black health care professionals to assist us because a
Speaker 4: lot of people in our community are going to be
Speaker 4: adversely impacted because they are either uninsured or underinsured.
Speaker 2: Absolutely well.
Speaker 1: In addition to these black folks making black history, our
Speaker 1: dear brother, Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant and his lovely bride,
Speaker 1: Reverend doctor because we can put some respect on her
Speaker 1: name to Reverend doctor Carry Bryant, made.
Speaker 2: History as well.
Speaker 1: At their church, they preach a joint sermon together for
Speaker 1: Black Love Day, Valentine's Day, and Frederick Douglass Weekend. And
Speaker 1: we want to roll two of those clips. Let's get it.
Speaker 13: Let me start by saying this, every woman is not
Speaker 13: the same. Come on, sisters, Her difference is what makes
Speaker 13: her unique. Your ability to learn the language of the
Speaker 13: woman in your life, if starts with you studying her difference,
Speaker 13: you may find often that there are two general styles
Speaker 13: for women. A style when she feels loved, when she
Speaker 13: feels spiritually and emotionally safe, when she feels respected, she'll
Speaker 13: be direct, but she gonna be tender. She's warm, and
Speaker 13: she's gonna be honest. When she's safe, she'll be playful
Speaker 13: with you. She'll tease and have banter back and forth
Speaker 13: with you. When she's respected, she'll be emotionally open with
Speaker 13: you and begin to share her fears, her vulnerabilities, and
Speaker 13: her dreams. She'll be nurturing and affirming. Her nonverbal attributes
Speaker 13: will show in her body language that it feels good
Speaker 13: to be around you. Can I tell you that a
Speaker 13: woman who is safe speaks differently, She moves differently, she
Speaker 13: engages differently. Now there is another style that she may
Speaker 13: have when she feels unsafe or indifferent. My lord, She's
Speaker 13: gonna be direct and short guarded, emotionally flat at times, cold,
Speaker 13: possibly withdrawing access from you. She might cold switch.
Speaker 5: A little bit.
Speaker 13: That means you're gonna get corporate Carrie, and not the
Speaker 13: carry you know at home.
Speaker 5: Corporate.
Speaker 13: Hello, how are you? What is it that I can
Speaker 13: assist you with today? Did you receive the email that
Speaker 13: I see you? My hours are between nine and five.
Speaker 13: Would like to contact me? You can go through my assistant.
Speaker 13: She will be more than happy to help you. Y'all
Speaker 13: know what I'm talking about. She will be dismissive and uninterested.
Speaker 13: Don't think you're gonna get no band to no plan around,
Speaker 13: no smiles on our faces, because when we feel unsafe,
Speaker 13: we close off. We leave the text on red.
Speaker 3: She was just staring at you right now.
Speaker 15: Oh lord.
Speaker 4: There were times during the Super Bowl when bad Bunny
Speaker 4: looked in the camera but didn't say anything. I need
Speaker 4: you to hear this. The man in your life wants
Speaker 4: you to hear this.
Speaker 3: Women talk to you.
Speaker 5: Gonna have to.
Speaker 4: High fire me in the spirit. Silence does not mean disconnection.
Speaker 4: Women speak on average sixteen thousand words a day. Brothers,
Speaker 4: just blink at me twice. I know you can't say
Speaker 4: amen right now. Just meet me in the hallway. I
Speaker 4: got you. Women speak sixteen thousand words a day and
Speaker 4: men only speak seven thousand words a day. So many
Speaker 4: times men hear this, think through reflection and not through articulation. Wives,
Speaker 4: I got to ask you a question. Think for a moment.
Speaker 4: Why it is only men who require a man cave.
Speaker 4: There's no such thing as a woman cave.
Speaker 3: Men.
Speaker 4: When we hear what you are saying, we think, how
Speaker 4: do we solve it? And many times you are sharing
Speaker 4: when we are looking to solving.
Speaker 1: Boy, I want to hear this type of feedback you
Speaker 1: are going. I was like, I want to go back
Speaker 1: and hear the whole thing. I have not yet, and
Speaker 1: I really want to.
Speaker 4: No. My parents years ago. My mother transitioned last year,
Speaker 4: but years ago, my parents used to preach together in
Speaker 4: their church in Baltimore. This is over twenty five years ago.
Speaker 4: So I said, carry, let's try it. This was our
Speaker 4: first time ever doing anything in that realm at all.
Speaker 4: But what I really want you to see, Ange is
Speaker 4: after the sermon, we renewed the vowels of one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty married couples. So to see one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty black couples on one stage, what was amazing, Andrew.
Speaker 4: What was crazy is we wanted to honor the couple
Speaker 4: that had been married the longest. They had been fifty
Speaker 4: seven years married. And then we said, who's been married
Speaker 4: the shortest amount of time. It was a couple that
Speaker 4: was four months. So we said, we're going to give
Speaker 4: a gift to the couple who's been married the shortest
Speaker 4: amount of time to go to dinner with the couple
Speaker 4: that's been married the longest, so that they can them
Speaker 4: and mentor on and give them the tools. So my
Speaker 4: staff hands me a card. Okay, the couple that's been married.
Speaker 4: To show this some abount of time is Lisa and Michael,
Speaker 4: said Lisa and Michael. Because it's one hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: couples out here. Lisa and Michael, y'all come up. We
Speaker 4: want to give you this gift certificate and meet the
Speaker 4: oldest couple. Okay, the couple that have been married for
Speaker 4: four months was sixty years old. Because the groop, the
Speaker 4: group was on a cane.
Speaker 3: We had to help you get up.
Speaker 4: When you're talking about love for the second time and
Speaker 4: what we had in our path.
Speaker 16: Man.
Speaker 4: But to answer your question, it was it was absolutely
Speaker 4: Love comes in so many different shapes and sizes forms. Listen,
Speaker 4: don't let love just happened for the twenty years, right,
Speaker 4: letting Nana get some. Letting Nana get some.
Speaker 1: Oh Lord, first of all, my brother she so let
Speaker 1: me find out he pop pop. But yeah, that is incredible.
Speaker 17: It was.
Speaker 2: It was such a good sermon.
Speaker 1: And I think the way that the clips because again, y'all,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back and watch it. I urge
Speaker 1: our listeners to go and watch it and listen to
Speaker 1: it as well. But I think what's so remarkable about
Speaker 1: it is, you know, with you and with Carrie, I
Speaker 1: love you, Guys's love. I just sent a text the
Speaker 1: other day. I sent Carrie's clip to Mignon and Kim
Speaker 1: and I literally said that. I said, she is the
Speaker 1: perfect mate for Jamal, Like we could not have designed
Speaker 1: a better person.
Speaker 2: God knew exactly what God was doing.
Speaker 1: So I just I want to shout out our dear sister,
Speaker 1: especially because there's so many times where she's come under
Speaker 1: attack for being different, for showing up in ways that
Speaker 1: they don't see a traditional first lady or you know,
Speaker 1: a pastor who's a woman, And I just love that
Speaker 1: she's like, I am going to define myself for myself
Speaker 1: and y'all just gonna have to.
Speaker 2: Wait and see. That doesn't mean that it's any less painful.
Speaker 1: So I applied you to brother for being ride or
Speaker 1: Di said a wheels fall off and saying I bought
Speaker 1: the dress and everything else you got to say in between.
Speaker 2: To make sure that she knows she's protected.
Speaker 3: And you know, why are you here? Let me just
Speaker 3: steal some advice from you while we got you. Let
Speaker 3: me ask you a personal question. Just act like Andrew
Speaker 3: and Angela aren't here, But what are some of the
Speaker 3: tools that you use in your marriage. Whenever moments of
Speaker 3: conflict arise with someone who is strong and independent and
Speaker 3: someone you love with your whole heart, but equally yoked,
Speaker 3: how do you avoid spiraling and making sure that your
Speaker 3: lines of communication remain open.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say just to Bakari and Andrew as you
Speaker 4: can is drop the whole controversy with the dress really
Speaker 4: awakened something in me Boocard that I had adjusted to
Speaker 4: disc function. I was so used to being persecuted that
Speaker 4: I became nun so it didn't bother me what blog
Speaker 4: said or what the Internet had to say, or what
Speaker 4: was the crazy comments, because I'm used to people coming sideways,
Speaker 4: But seeing my wife's humanity in it, I realized that
Speaker 4: I had compartmentalized. And because all of us, Bacary, Angela, Andrew,
Speaker 4: we have grown up in public space one way or another.
Speaker 4: You can become so numb to it or adjusted to
Speaker 4: it that you almost have to parent your partner. You
Speaker 4: know you holding it. It's gonna be okay, right, this
Speaker 4: will be at the next news cycle. Just give it
Speaker 4: a couple of days. Don't respond, because we've been in it,
Speaker 4: and if not ourselves, the people who have mentored us
Speaker 4: we have had to watch them go through it and
Speaker 4: so becaar. It tapped into my humanity that it's okay
Speaker 4: to be superman. But the reality is all of us
Speaker 4: are clock can and so rather than being dismissive, you
Speaker 4: have to identify with the pain. Not I tell you
Speaker 4: it's okay, but to say, you know what, this hurts
Speaker 4: me too, and it hurts me that it hurts you.
Speaker 4: But minimizing it is only going to exacerbate it, because
Speaker 4: it's gonna make them question why am I hurt? Why
Speaker 4: am I angry? And when we're in this public space,
Speaker 4: people forget that you're human, They forget that you actually
Speaker 4: have feelings. And so we have gone into we pray
Speaker 4: together every day as opposed to praying together when we're
Speaker 4: in crisis. So when you pray together every day, it
Speaker 4: creates a different kind of rhythm so that it doesn't
Speaker 4: become alien and it's not in case of emergency break glass.
Speaker 4: My mother used to say something to me years ago,
Speaker 4: and I give this to all the singles who are watching.
Speaker 4: Prayer is more intimate than sex. That people will sleep
Speaker 4: with you who would never pray with you. That's a fact.
Speaker 3: You don't you know? Some of their prayers don't make
Speaker 3: it through the roof, so you can't listen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can always tell us, I would say, identifying
Speaker 4: it and then taking away your tough skin, because it
Speaker 4: can become an enabler. And you got to really get
Speaker 4: in touch at your humanity and a lot of times
Speaker 4: because we feel it through our kids, or we feel
Speaker 4: through our spouse, and so being more in tune to
Speaker 4: your humanity and not just the black button.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to take some time that was on my heart.
Speaker 5: So I just had to ask, Yeah, well you are
Speaker 5: I mean you the descermine y'all hit y'all, y'all hit
Speaker 5: on it. I mean y'all been in anybody's households. It
Speaker 5: felt like you you observed enough of what happens in marriages,
Speaker 5: and obviously your life experience has lent a lot to it.
Speaker 5: But blessing to your parishioners and obviously for you all's
Speaker 5: willingness to make sure that you're sharing your messages outside
Speaker 5: of the edifice, outside of the building itself, so that
Speaker 5: you know, unchurched people and otherwise are able to access
Speaker 5: it and be drawn closer quite frankly to Christ, because
Speaker 5: that's what this is all is that's what this is
Speaker 5: all for. That it brings us closer uh and and
Speaker 5: deeper into our faith. And I'll just say you you
Speaker 5: were running down my street, up the block through the
Speaker 5: front door on this idea of the numbing that you
Speaker 5: do with regard to criticism, to the point that you
Speaker 5: lessen it so much that when others are going through it,
Speaker 5: your spouse, you're like, why can't you snap back? It's
Speaker 5: just like, you know, keep it moving, like get with
Speaker 5: it where that is what it is, move on and
Speaker 5: it'll be over and Jay during you know. So the
Speaker 5: zenith of crisis that we were in, a bought this
Speaker 5: T shirt that said, what you don't understand about me,
Speaker 5: what you need to understand about me is I'm not
Speaker 5: you and the rest will make sense. And it, like spoke,
Speaker 5: she had reached out a place where it was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: what works for you is and what work for me,
Speaker 5: and what work for me may not work for you,
Speaker 5: but you just need to understand that we're not gonna
Speaker 5: see these things the same way. I have my own
Speaker 5: way of seeing it. And now the rest of all
Speaker 5: my decisions will make sense to you that they're not yours,
Speaker 5: their mine.
Speaker 4: And let me add because I don't want to be
Speaker 4: presumptuous of everybody knowing my story. It is the second
Speaker 4: marriage for both care and myself. I was divorced for
Speaker 4: ten years. Carry was divorced for nine years, and Nelson
Speaker 4: Mandela said, it is not a loss, it's a lesson.
Speaker 4: That's right, and so you should learn something from your
Speaker 4: previous relationships. Sometimes the lesson is you learn what not
Speaker 4: to do, and you learn that it's not always the
Speaker 4: other person, but what is the brokenness in you that
Speaker 4: has to be address right?
Speaker 1: That's right, well on that there is a broke, some
Speaker 1: brokenness in our community. This week we lost the giant
Speaker 1: nobody knows.
Speaker 2: We want to pay tribute to that giant right now.
Speaker 9: At three o'clock on Thanksgiving Day, we couldn't eat turkey
Speaker 9: because Mama must to paying somebody else's turkey. At three
Speaker 9: o'clock we had to play football if you have detained ourselves.
Speaker 9: And then around six o'clock she would get off the
Speaker 9: After this the bus and we would bring up the
Speaker 9: leftover us and eat out turkey leftover us the caucus
Speaker 9: the Cranberrys around eight o'clock at night. I really do
Speaker 9: understand every one of these funny labels they put on you.
Speaker 9: Those of you were watching this broadcast at night in
Speaker 9: the projects on the corners, I understand. Call you out cast,
Speaker 9: low down. You can't make it. You're nothing. You're from nobody,
Speaker 9: sub class on the class. When you see Jesse Jackson,
Speaker 9: when my name goes in nomination, your name goes in nomination.
Speaker 9: I was born in the slum, for the slum was
Speaker 9: not born in me, and it wasn't going in you.
Speaker 9: And you can make it wherever you are tonight. You
Speaker 9: can make it. Hould your head high, stick your chest out,
Speaker 9: you can make it. It gets dark sometimes, but the
Speaker 9: morning comes. Don't you surrender suffering, grief, character, character, priests,
Speaker 9: faith In the end, faith will not the support. You
Speaker 9: must not surrender. You may or may not get that,
Speaker 9: but just know that you are qualified. When you hold
Speaker 9: on and hold out. We must never surrender. America will
Speaker 9: get better and better. Keep hope of life. Jeep Hope alive,
Speaker 9: Jim Hope alive. Oh tomorrow night and the yond, Jeep
Speaker 9: Hope Alive. I love you very much.
Speaker 8: I love you very much.
Speaker 1: I can never see that clip and not cry, So
Speaker 1: I just will say that there are plenty of obituaries
Speaker 1: going out from press, from white publications, some of them
Speaker 1: throwing the little digs in the shade. And we all
Speaker 1: have personal stories with Reverend who has shaped all of
Speaker 1: us in some way, and so we wanted to take
Speaker 1: some time today to share some of those stories. And
Speaker 1: I will yield to whomever wants to start. I need
Speaker 1: just a second to gather, but we have a ton
Speaker 1: more clips just of Reverend himself and also a response,
Speaker 1: a preemptive response from Reverend to Donald Trump before that
Speaker 1: crazy social post on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: I think we should let our guests go first and
Speaker 3: set the tongue.
Speaker 4: I am overwhelmed. Our generation never saw doctor King in person,
Speaker 4: but were able to get to the hymn of Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 4: What a lot of people miss is in the last
Speaker 4: speech of Martin Luther King Junior at Mason Temple, Church
Speaker 4: of God in Christ, he told the people in the
Speaker 4: audience tomorrow morning, go to a black bank, put your
Speaker 4: money there. He told them about a bridge company in Memphis,
Speaker 4: because he began the shift from civil rights to civil rights.
Speaker 4: And what a lot of people are going to miss
Speaker 4: over the next ensuing days is that Jesse Jackson really
Speaker 4: heralded around corporate responsibility from Budweiser to Pepsi to Toyota,
Speaker 4: and a large measure what it is that we're doing
Speaker 4: with the Target Fast boycott is the the seed of
Speaker 4: Reverend Jesse Jackson, who modeled that. And I am proud
Speaker 4: that his last protest in his life was with me
Speaker 4: outside of Target in Chicago, and so I'm grateful that
Speaker 4: the legacy he left, he was able to see another
Speaker 4: generation carried the torch, and I prayed that we'll continue
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 3: So. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 5: What an honor and pastor you taking the baton, because
Speaker 5: you're crystal clear and right on the ways in which
Speaker 5: Reverend Jackson really made centerfold for our community economic uplift,
Speaker 5: economic justice in the form of making sure boardrooms and
Speaker 5: c suites reflected black people, black men, and black women
Speaker 5: at those tables. And I will tell you, if we
Speaker 5: could interview some of those earlier C suite executives and
Speaker 5: corporations Fortune five hundred and for one companies in this country,
Speaker 5: if we could interview those black folks who walk through
Speaker 5: that door, I would wager that many of them would
Speaker 5: credit the work of Jesse Jackson. Those who are aware
Speaker 5: were credit the work of Jesse Jackson as having created
Speaker 5: a pathway and open opened some doors. I'll tell you
Speaker 5: my first real work with Reverend Jackson was in like
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nine, two thousand, and I will admit I
Speaker 5: was not really receiving him with open arms. I had
Speaker 5: and I think, if I'm to be honest, a lot
Speaker 5: of my peers, you know, in college in two thousand
Speaker 5: at that time, were skeptical of Reverend Jackson. They weren't
Speaker 5: sure if this was you know, some flash you got,
Speaker 5: you know, suit who with cameras coming in to overtake
Speaker 5: you know, our protests and what we were trying to
Speaker 5: do or what was going on. So there was a
Speaker 5: there was sort of an eye of suspicion, and I'll
Speaker 5: tell you those walls came down and the very few
Speaker 5: days that we got to spend together organizing around the
Speaker 5: march on Tallahassee, the largest civil rights protests in the
Speaker 5: history of the state of Florida, around voting the two
Speaker 5: thousand presidential election, where he came and camped out here.
Speaker 5: The marches in which he came and assisted me with
Speaker 5: not by my invitation, by the way. And that was
Speaker 5: the beauty of him is he didn't really wait for
Speaker 5: you to call him, you know, to invite him to
Speaker 5: the protests. You were organizeding to the city and you
Speaker 5: were leading. I don't know how he did it, but
Speaker 5: Rev had his tentacles, you know, to the ground, and
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: He called up, what's y'all gonna do about that? What
Speaker 3: do y'all?
Speaker 5: Y'all fam U students, you right there in the capitol,
Speaker 5: right there with the government, right there with the governor.
Speaker 5: And he was the one of the first people who
Speaker 5: teach me, to taught me the lesson that it wasn't
Speaker 5: It wasn't just when black people at fam you were
Speaker 5: impacted that we need to show out, but because of
Speaker 5: our proximity to where power was, and he meant physical
Speaker 5: proximity in the same city where the governor lives and
Speaker 5: where the legislature convenced that when when they come out
Speaker 5: to black people, is our responsibility to be the first
Speaker 5: line of defense. He expected us to be down sleeping
Speaker 5: at the capitol or protesting us either governor's mansion or
Speaker 5: doing whatever was required to raise the voices and the
Speaker 5: rejection of black people and to register that complaint not
Speaker 5: just on behalf of us as family students, but on
Speaker 5: behalf of black people in the state of Florida.
Speaker 3: Period.
Speaker 5: He imbued in us the belief that we had a
Speaker 5: responsibility for our collective community, not just for ourselves. I'll
Speaker 5: never forget it, and I've tried to pass that on
Speaker 5: to other young leaders as I've encountered them. He was
Speaker 5: here again with my sister when she was student body president,
Speaker 5: and Philip Agnew, who was student body president, served as
Speaker 5: vice president to him, and they began the organization Dream
Speaker 5: Defenders right there sitting at the knee of Jesse Jackson
Speaker 5: when they protest and stayed and slept on the capitol
Speaker 5: floor of the rotunda in the Florida Capital for thirty
Speaker 5: one days, thirty one days, and Reverend Jackson came in
Speaker 5: in those final days because he said he knew that
Speaker 5: the government was not going to respond in the way
Speaker 5: that it should under the Republican administration, so that those
Speaker 5: kids needed a way that they could exit that building
Speaker 5: with pride.
Speaker 18: He wanted them to be able after thirty one days
Speaker 18: to walk out in victory, and so he flew down
Speaker 18: and eleven o'clock at night is convening us to talk
Speaker 18: about what the strategy is going to be for their exit.
Speaker 5: And on behalf of my sister myself. I'm sure Philip
Speaker 5: Agnew would agree that the lessons he's taught is the
Speaker 5: gift that keeps on giving, because these young people have
Speaker 5: now gone out into the world and have made really
Speaker 5: big change, and because of him, they are able to
Speaker 5: do it with a more strategic.
Speaker 3: Mind that.
Speaker 5: Reverend Jackson may have been there on the front lines
Speaker 5: of the protests, but believe you me, before they came
Speaker 5: out there, there was a meeting about what was going
Speaker 5: to happen the day after that, and the day after that,
Speaker 5: and the day after that and the day after that,
Speaker 5: because that's the way he thought. He was already he
Speaker 5: had his mindset on what victory was going to look
Speaker 5: like for us, and in the process of protesting, he
Speaker 5: didn't want us ever to walk out looking like or
Speaker 5: feeling like.
Speaker 3: We were the losers.
Speaker 5: He wanted us walking out feeling and believing and having
Speaker 5: achieved real victory there. And I'm thankful for it. And
Speaker 5: for those folks who get skeptical of the leaders that
Speaker 5: you see on TV all the time, or the ones
Speaker 5: you think run around and just chase cameras and aren't
Speaker 5: really invested in what it is you do. I would
Speaker 5: actually to reconsider and think again, because as I now
Speaker 5: reflect on it, I know that the attention that we
Speaker 5: got on so much of the activism that we were
Speaker 5: doing at the time wasn't because it was good and
Speaker 5: just working us necessarily. It was because the Reverend decided
Speaker 5: to show up, and with him came twenty thirty forty
Speaker 5: cameras and journalists who told our stories and broadcast it
Speaker 5: out for huge audiences to here, to understand and to
Speaker 5: activate around. And so I thank him, and I hope
Speaker 5: that he goes to glory knowing that he has raised
Speaker 5: multiple generations of people who were prepared to pick up
Speaker 5: the torch and keep marching.
Speaker 1: I want to roll this nineteen eighty four clip of
Speaker 1: his DNC speech before we get to you, Bikari.
Speaker 9: President Reagan sass nation is in recovery. Those ninety thousand
Speaker 9: corporations that made the prophet last year but paid no
Speaker 9: federal taxes are recovering the feder seven thousand military contractors
Speaker 9: for benefited from Reagan's more than doubling the military budget
Speaker 9: in peach time. Sure that they are recovering. The big
Speaker 9: corporations and rich individuals who received the book of the
Speaker 9: three year mother begging tax cuts for mister rigging are recovering,
Speaker 9: but no such recovery is on the way for the
Speaker 9: least of These rising tides don't lift all boats, particularly
Speaker 9: those stuck at the bottom. For the boats stuck at
Speaker 9: the bottom, there's a misery index. This administration has made
Speaker 9: life more miserable for the poor. Its attitude has been contemptuous.
Speaker 9: Its policies and programs have been cruel and unfair the
Speaker 9: working people. They must be haled accountable in November for
Speaker 9: increasing into mortality among the poor. In the chart one
Speaker 9: of the great cities of the Western world, babies are
Speaker 9: dying at the same rate as Honduras, the most undeveloped
Speaker 9: nation in our hemisphere. This administration must be held accountable
Speaker 9: for policies that look contribute to poverty in America. They
Speaker 9: are now plenty four million people in poverty, fifteen percent
Speaker 9: of our nation, twenty three million of white, eleven million Black,
Speaker 9: Hispanic Asian, and others, mostly women and children. By the
Speaker 9: end of this year, that would be forty one million
Speaker 9: people in poverty. We cannot stand O Leby, we must
Speaker 9: f fight for change now.
Speaker 2: Pakari.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean I think that people sometimes get
Speaker 3: caught up in the oratory or the cameras or the lights,
Speaker 3: but they don't know the dynam dynamism that is the man.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about someone who rescued hostages from Syria.
Speaker 3: You're talking about someone who at his infancy ran Operation
Speaker 3: bread Basket. You're talking about someone who nestled up with
Speaker 3: doctor Martin Luther King Jr. But also was respected by
Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan. I mean, just when you look at the
Speaker 3: resume and the breath of it, I think we all
Speaker 3: envy the level of respect that came with being Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 3: I also think that his mind worked in ways that
Speaker 3: others really don't understand. It was a message that Jesse
Speaker 3: and my father would always say. And I remember when
Speaker 3: Deray and Brittany and all of them at the beginning
Speaker 3: of Precipice of Black Lives Matter, where marching and blocking
Speaker 3: highways in Louisiana, and my daddy called and said, you know,
Speaker 3: let's make sure that they're not protesting at night, because
Speaker 3: people do under the cover of darkness what they wouldn't otherwise.
Speaker 3: Do during the day. It was this kind of way
Speaker 3: in which we've seen this and done this type of
Speaker 3: ideal that Reverend Bryant talked about that they lived through
Speaker 3: that you don't have to read about it. You know
Speaker 3: the people who can tell you the stories. And my
Speaker 3: familiarity with Reverend Jackson is that I call him Uncle Jesse,
Speaker 3: like we called him Uncle Mary and Barry or Uncle
Speaker 3: Julian Bond. I'm a product of the proverb it takes
Speaker 3: a village to raise a child. And so as we
Speaker 3: were laughing beforehand, we always call the little Jesse Jesse
Speaker 3: Jackson Junior, Little Jesse because when he was at North
Speaker 3: Carolina A and T he used to babysit me. He
Speaker 3: used to come over and eat spaghetti dinners on Friday.
Speaker 3: That was the type of family structure that we had.
Speaker 3: And my dad and Reverend Jackson they clashed at times
Speaker 3: like many people throughout the movement, and it wasn't a
Speaker 3: clash over how much do we love black folks. It
Speaker 3: was a clash over how do we get to the mountaintop.
Speaker 3: And as I talked about a little bit on air
Speaker 3: and love using my platform to uplift store, where is
Speaker 3: that people don't know. You know, as you had those
Speaker 3: rifts between W. E. B. The Boys and Booker T. Washington,
Speaker 3: the same rifts you had with Martin and Malcolm, the
Speaker 3: same riffs you had of legendary riffs that I know
Speaker 3: Reverend Bryant knows about between Julianne Bond and John Lewis.
Speaker 3: The more fascinating part about Barack Obama and Jesse Jackson
Speaker 3: is that they were able to have a conversation before
Speaker 3: one of them passed away. They were able to mend
Speaker 3: those fences, They were able to let their heart beat.
Speaker 3: You saw the tears that came from Jesse Jackson's eyes
Speaker 3: when Barack Obama won that election. You saw him be
Speaker 3: able to echo the fact that his work meant something.
Speaker 3: And I just look at the product you talked about, Andrew,
Speaker 3: what he meant to you all in that circle. I
Speaker 3: recall when my father worked on the nineteen eighty four
Speaker 3: and eighty eight campaign, really close to Jesse. But they
Speaker 3: hired two young women who we both know. They hired
Speaker 3: a young woman named Donna Brazil. They hired a woman
Speaker 3: named Mignon Moore. These institutions, right, that's where they got
Speaker 3: their start. You know how many people got their start
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty four, in nineteen eighty eight, and it's
Speaker 3: just fascinating to see. And Bernie Sanders, for example, is
Speaker 3: eighty something years old. And I can say this with
Speaker 3: true veracity. There would not be a Bernie Sanders if
Speaker 3: there wasn't a Jesse Jackson. There wouldn't be an AOC
Speaker 3: if there wasn't a Jesse Jackson. And he was bigger
Speaker 3: than the Democratic Party. That's what I want people to know.
Speaker 3: He spoke to a humanity that people don't necessarily recognize.
Speaker 3: I encourage everybody to go back and look at his
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight speech, the one that we watched a
Speaker 3: clip of, but watch how he talked about the American quilt.
Speaker 3: The last point that I'll make is something that I
Speaker 3: echoed before, but it's so important, and his oratory reminds
Speaker 3: me of revend Bryant's so much, not just an allocution,
Speaker 3: but in the way that they're able to drive home
Speaker 3: lessons with metaphor, because the way that Jesse Jackson was
Speaker 3: one time pinned down by a white reporter. He echoed
Speaker 3: this later in his life about equality, and he compared
Speaker 3: it to sport. And I go back to that all
Speaker 3: the time, because it's not that we excel in sport
Speaker 3: because of our size or our hyper athleticism. We excel
Speaker 3: at sport because no matter what basketball court you get onto,
Speaker 3: it's ninety four feet, it's fifty feet wide, the rim
Speaker 3: is ten feet high, the basketball is the same size,
Speaker 3: and the rules are known before the game. It's the
Speaker 3: same with the with the baseball feel, it's the same
Speaker 3: with the hockey ring. It's the same with the track.
Speaker 3: We know the rules. When the rules are clear, we
Speaker 3: can excel. However, outside of sport, for black people, those
Speaker 3: rules change. And Reverend Jackson was just so clear about it.
Speaker 3: He loved his family, He loved Youseuff, he loved Jesse,
Speaker 3: he loved he loved Jonathan, he loved them, He loved
Speaker 3: every single person that he came around with. I was
Speaker 3: fortunate enough to allow him the opportunity. We saw each
Speaker 3: other in Chicago and he was in a hotel. I
Speaker 3: was for a conference, and he wanted to speak to Cleve.
Speaker 3: He had an opportunity to speak to my dad, and
Speaker 3: that was just a powerful moment.
Speaker 4: I want to just as an aside, just for historical record,
Speaker 4: is the transition that Reverend Jackson brought in the black
Speaker 4: and white footage of the civil rights movement. Everyone was
Speaker 4: pristine and black suits, white shirt, black tie. Jesse Jackson
Speaker 4: is not given due in large measure to help usher
Speaker 4: in hip hop culture. So to go from those shop
Speaker 4: line haircuts to afros, dashiki's and medallions was not just
Speaker 4: a change in leadership. I don't want it to get
Speaker 4: so far away. It was a change of what we
Speaker 4: knew for leadership to look like and gave permission that
Speaker 4: we did not need acceptability from what a culture was
Speaker 4: looking like. So from some of the Montgomery they marched,
Speaker 4: all them miles in suits and dresses and eels and stockings,
Speaker 4: and Jesse comes with his chest out with a fist
Speaker 4: lifted up saying, hey, take me as I am. And
Speaker 4: out of that really came the raw audacity of hip
Speaker 4: hop culture to say this is who it is, that
Speaker 4: we are the most known slogan and Americana outside of
Speaker 4: a coca and a smile, and you deserve a break today?
Speaker 4: Is I am? Somebody? Keep up alive. And so that's
Speaker 4: before we started using saying you have a brand. This
Speaker 4: was our marching orders. The soundtrack of Jesse Jackson's movement
Speaker 4: was James Brown say aloud, I'm Black and I'm proud.
Speaker 4: Uh So to know how revolutionary it was for poor
Speaker 4: black people to say I am somebody.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: What wasn't just a slogan or a T shirt or
Speaker 4: a banner, It was a mindset, right, And so Angela,
Speaker 4: that is so important because he was saying I am
Speaker 4: somebody drum roll. Before there was a Ted talk, Yes,
Speaker 4: before there was self help books at Bonds and Noble,
Speaker 4: before people could listen to audio books, they knew I
Speaker 4: am somebody. And I think that to raise the self
Speaker 4: esteem of ostracized and marginalized people is a work that
Speaker 4: you can't even quantify. And so I'm I'm grateful for
Speaker 4: him by having that kind of brave, raw audacity to
Speaker 4: tell oppressed people I'm somebody. He is simply amazing.
Speaker 3: He was always proud, and I think I'm sorry. I
Speaker 3: was just going to say a lot of people don't
Speaker 3: know his story growing up in Greenville. His mother was
Speaker 3: sixteen years old when she had him, and people don't
Speaker 3: know that part of his story. He grew up in
Speaker 3: abject property. The unique part about it, which I hope
Speaker 3: kind of I'd say it was like his villain. What
Speaker 3: do they say when you like your villain arc or whatever,
Speaker 3: when you're born into the villainy or whatever. But people
Speaker 3: don't know that his father, his father lived right next
Speaker 3: door to him. He didn't know that growing up. But
Speaker 3: his father was a successful businessman who was also his
Speaker 3: next door neighbor. And here he is growing up in
Speaker 3: abject property when I mean poverty. They used they had
Speaker 3: an outhouse, and he grew up under the rigors of segregation,
Speaker 3: riding in the back of the bus, drinking out of
Speaker 3: different water fountains. And here he is growing up poor
Speaker 3: and the man who is your quote unquote father, is
Speaker 3: your next door neighbor. I mean, just think about the
Speaker 3: the effect that that has on who you are. And
Speaker 3: that's why when he says, I was born in the slums,
Speaker 3: but the slums are not in me. I mean, it
Speaker 3: just speaks so powerfully to his story. And I also
Speaker 3: help I also think that his entire life and this
Speaker 3: is just me talking, and you know we've talked about it,
Speaker 3: but I think he was trying to prove something to himself,
Speaker 3: and I think he was proving something to the world.
Speaker 3: And I think he was proving something to his father
Speaker 3: that I am somebody, and I think that that was really,
Speaker 3: really profound. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, before I do my tribute for Reverend Jackson, I
Speaker 1: want to run a clip of my dad on a
Speaker 1: news show just this week where he talked about his
Speaker 1: own experience with Reverend Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 9: We must never surrender.
Speaker 5: The medical will get better tonight.
Speaker 19: Western Washington and the United States as a whole are
Speaker 19: mourning the loss of civil rights icon Jesse Jacks, Kira Resivans,
Speaker 19: Jack Bill yu Is life at Mount Zion Baptist Church
Speaker 19: in Seattle and Jack. Reverend Jackson made frequent visits to
Speaker 19: the Pacific Northwest. You spoke to some of the people
Speaker 19: who were right by his side.
Speaker 17: Yeah, And for many of those visits, Cairo Seven's cameras
Speaker 17: were rolling. They usually included a stop right here at
Speaker 17: Mountain Zion Baptist Church where he'd preached, plus other stops
Speaker 17: I aimed at mobilizing African Americans or holding the powerful
Speaker 17: to account.
Speaker 15: We were OG's, so you know, we've worked on a
Speaker 15: lot of things together.
Speaker 17: Eddie Rye knew Jesse Jackson better than most. Rye ran
Speaker 17: his campaign for president Washington State in nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 17: one of the many times they worked together over the
Speaker 17: course of more than half a century of friendship.
Speaker 15: He was a jovial guy. My daughter Angela visited with
Speaker 15: him less than a month ago. He was in Burbo
Speaker 15: at the time.
Speaker 17: Why says the biggest lasting legacy of Jackson's long and
Speaker 17: storied career is the way he transferre formed the participation
Speaker 17: of African Americans in the political process, turning them from
Speaker 17: voters or donors into delegates and advocates.
Speaker 15: A lot of people had never thought about really get
Speaker 15: intricately involved in the political process until Reverend Jackson ran it.
Speaker 15: And that's something that resonated all across the country.
Speaker 17: But his career didn't end after his two runs for
Speaker 17: president in the eighties.
Speaker 4: This city really owes a lot to Reverend Jackson, and
Speaker 4: Reverend Jackson loved this city.
Speaker 3: He loved coming here.
Speaker 17: Nate Miles and Darryl Powell showed Jackson around during a
Speaker 17: visit to Seattle in the twenty tens when he met
Speaker 17: with tech giants like Microsoft to advocate for diversity. Returned
Speaker 17: to the civil rights hub of Mount Zion Baptist Church
Speaker 17: and spoke to students at Rainier Beach High School.
Speaker 16: There's much challenge of them today.
Speaker 3: If you study, you can be somebody.
Speaker 7: And he always had that I am somebody, and we
Speaker 7: writ into the chant that I am somebody.
Speaker 5: They were excited taking pictures.
Speaker 7: It was just very motivating for the students as well
Speaker 7: as the staff.
Speaker 17: Jackson's role in the fight for equality is now a
Speaker 17: but those who knew him say they will never forget
Speaker 17: what he stood for.
Speaker 15: The impact of Reverend Jackson will last forever.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 17: The men you just heard from say people would call
Speaker 17: on Jackson for help with all kinds of things. That
Speaker 17: includes pushing for the freedom of a local man who
Speaker 17: was imprisoned in North Korea. Well, hear what his family
Speaker 17: had to say about the reverends passing tonight at six
Speaker 17: live in Seattle. Jack Billy you Cairo seven.
Speaker 1: I want to say that I grew up with a
Speaker 1: picture of Reverend Jackson on the fireplace mantle. There was
Speaker 1: a picture with doctor King and Malcolm X, and right
Speaker 1: next to that was this picture of Reverend And you
Speaker 1: saw that picture on top of somebody's nineteen eighty four
Speaker 1: campaign sign. And my dad worked on his eighty four
Speaker 1: and eighty eight campaigns. He ran the Washington State campaign
Speaker 1: I think in eighty four, and I cannot remember. There's
Speaker 1: not an early childhood memory I don't have that doesn't
Speaker 1: involve Reverend Jackson's presence either, you know, through something my
Speaker 1: dad is saying, some other protests were about to get
Speaker 1: involved in. I talk a lot about this on my
Speaker 1: solo podcast from Tuesday. But I also came into being
Speaker 1: around Reverend based on the work path that I ended
Speaker 1: up choosing, or the path that chose me. When I
Speaker 1: went to DC after law school, we started an organization
Speaker 1: called Impact, and very quickly Impact became like a partner
Speaker 1: organization with Rainbow Push.
Speaker 2: When Big bro.
Speaker 1: G Flow was there Gary Flowers, and so he did
Speaker 1: a panel at a Rainbow Push convening, and true to form,
Speaker 1: Reverend Jackson would go in every single panel discussion and
Speaker 1: go to the mic.
Speaker 2: And I'm using this story because to Andrew's.
Speaker 1: Point, I was like, why he always got to do that,
Speaker 1: Like we're in the middle of a program and he
Speaker 1: would go in and he'd say that's something. And what
Speaker 1: I remember in this moment, I was so offended because
Speaker 1: he came in and he said, Jeff Johnson was moderating
Speaker 1: this conversation. He takes the mic from Jeff and he
Speaker 1: was like, y'all are talking about who's got next? I
Speaker 1: think that literally was the name of our panel discussion.
Speaker 1: And you can't replace a giant with goliaths. David didn't
Speaker 1: just use a slingshot to take him out. He had
Speaker 1: to cut his head off. And I was like, why
Speaker 1: he want us to cut his head off? Like what's
Speaker 1: going on? And I think to this day there are
Speaker 1: aspects about what he said that I don't understand. But
Speaker 1: to me, passing the torch isn't about dishonoring the folks,
Speaker 1: the giants who come before you. It's about ensuring that
Speaker 1: you don't kill off a legacy unless you think that
Speaker 1: legacy is not worth living for. And I certainly don't
Speaker 1: think the man who had a theme song run Jesse
Speaker 1: Run that Lou Rawls and Phillis Hymon and James Cleveland
Speaker 1: did for his eighty four campaign is somebody whose head
Speaker 1: is worth cutting off. Quite the contrary, this is someone
Speaker 1: who when I was the executive director of the Congressional
Speaker 1: Black Caucus, he was the only non CBC member who
Speaker 1: could come in the meeting and be a.
Speaker 2: Part of the meeting.
Speaker 1: He was a CBC member to us when he did
Speaker 1: Rainbow Push Tech twenty twenty to ensure that the tech
Speaker 1: industry would become more diverse. The CBC without question took
Speaker 1: on doing that same exact initiative on the Hill. And
Speaker 1: then I think the other thing that I would just
Speaker 1: reflect on is Reverend Jackson's calling responses, which are legendary.
Speaker 1: And the reason why his calls and responses are legendary
Speaker 1: is because you would start off with I am somebody,
Speaker 1: and you would do them three words, and then he
Speaker 1: would hit you with a paragraph you couldn't keep up
Speaker 1: with on the other end, like you're.
Speaker 2: Supposed to respond like I can't even remember what she said.
Speaker 1: So he would just he would have these moments that
Speaker 1: would be so funny, and even you know, as he
Speaker 1: started losing his cadence and we couldn't understand him as well,
Speaker 1: he was still making us do call and response, which
Speaker 1: is also funny. I do want to just take a
Speaker 1: moment to send so much lef his family, to his kids,
Speaker 1: to missus Jackson to a staff member, John Mitchell, who
Speaker 1: preceded him in passing to Gary Flowers. So I called
Speaker 1: big Bro g Flow to Butch Wing, who's based in
Speaker 1: the Bay and worked for Reverend for many years. Shelley Davis,
Speaker 1: Lamel mc morris, and Tyrone. Tyrone, I'm sorry I cannot
Speaker 1: think your last name, but no, I love you. And
Speaker 1: then the last thing I'll say is the last time
Speaker 1: I saw him was in the hospital in November.
Speaker 2: I really wanted to make sure I saw him.
Speaker 1: My dad couldn't go because my mom had just had
Speaker 1: a really bad fall and I had to go for
Speaker 1: a speech. So I went to see him, and Reverend
Speaker 1: was squeezing hands when he couldn't speak. But there was
Speaker 1: a moment where he really felt like I needed to
Speaker 1: know my marching orders. He couldn't get them out in
Speaker 1: a way that I could understand, but I told him
Speaker 1: when he was ready to talk, that he could call me,
Speaker 1: and then, no matter what the marching orders were, that
Speaker 1: I would fulfill them. I made sure I called Congressoman
Speaker 1: Water so he could talk to her and hear her.
Speaker 1: And I called my dad, who decided to recite back
Speaker 1: to him his bio as if he hadn't lived out
Speaker 1: that story. But I will tell you that I'm very
Speaker 1: clear about my marching orders. I played them on the
Speaker 1: show on Tuesday in nineteen seventy two, Reverend told us
Speaker 1: that it was nation time, and as we go through
Speaker 1: these very harrowing times, my biggest regret for him is
Speaker 1: that he didn't see us turn the corner in a
Speaker 1: very ugly moment in our history. But I know that
Speaker 1: our marching orders right now is that it's nation time
Speaker 1: and we have to build, and we have to build together.
Speaker 1: We have to do that with us. People see him
Speaker 1: as a great unifier, and he was. But before he
Speaker 1: was a great unifier, he ensured that our foundation as black.
Speaker 2: People was strong.
Speaker 1: And so with that, I do want to just take
Speaker 1: a moment to correct the record. Donald Trump posted on
Speaker 1: truth Social about Reverend Jackson. He was writing saying that
Speaker 1: he was an extraordinary man. We can put that post stup,
Speaker 1: nick and I won't read all of this. Of course,
Speaker 1: he chose to focus on a rift between Barack Obama
Speaker 1: and Jesse Jackson that Bakari's already addressed today. He lied
Speaker 1: about the long term funding for HBCUs that he claimed
Speaker 1: to give, about the criminal justice reform that he's taken
Speaker 1: credit for, about giving as if he's ever supported reparation
Speaker 1: space to Reverend Jackson for Rainbow Coalition. But he was
Speaker 1: right in saying that he was a great man, a
Speaker 1: good man with lots of personality, grit, street smart. Seems
Speaker 1: a little racist, but we won't belabor the point. I
Speaker 1: do think it is worth hearing from Reverend Jackson his
Speaker 1: own words about what he had to say about Donald Trump.
Speaker 16: That's what well, I wasn't see us in this year.
Speaker 16: He was our collective go to defeat Donald Trump. Trump
Speaker 16: represents something dangers to America, using the presensor for personal gain.
Speaker 16: Unto saying the modern claws and our constution playing on
Speaker 16: racial fears in Africa, and the asshole is stands far.
Speaker 16: It's an American judge incapable of being judicious.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 16: The Charlottesville CISTUS where he had the white supremacist Marge
Speaker 16: particulate as Chown's and Jews uh bend and Muslims. It
Speaker 16: does some awful stuff to America, and we cannot afford
Speaker 16: that we're more I stayed in the world. I say
Speaker 16: it from the Seven Countries. Well, I say it from
Speaker 16: our neighbors in Canada and Mexico. We deserve better leadership
Speaker 16: in this. I want to see Trump.
Speaker 5: Defeated Answeerlau, I love you. That clip just reminded me.
Speaker 5: I think you're wrong. I think he is. He did
Speaker 5: live to experience some of the change. Probably what I
Speaker 5: think is going to be at the start of this
Speaker 5: of this shift to reclaim our country hole, and that
Speaker 5: is that it wasn't a military that drove this disastrous
Speaker 5: administration out of Minnesota. Uh not even the courts didn't
Speaker 5: do it. Not a senator, not a congress, not a
Speaker 5: House speaker or Democratic leader. People. And this was so
Speaker 5: I think people with the evolution of time and technology,
Speaker 5: you think because you posted your objection on Facebook or
Speaker 5: Twitter or or x or or or truth or whatever,
Speaker 5: that you've done your activism. And what what what? What
Speaker 5: rev understood so importantly, so critically, is that bodies in
Speaker 5: the streets, people in physical form, not in force, not
Speaker 5: not not not not a force of of of of
Speaker 5: of of of anything other than their bodies being there.
Speaker 5: And if he didn't do anything else, he taught us
Speaker 5: to put down the phone, put down to this, bring
Speaker 5: your body to this fight, get on the streets, walk, march,
Speaker 5: sit ins, sleep in. And you know, people may call
Speaker 5: it old fashioned, they may think that that's just not
Speaker 5: how it's going to work anymore. Then let's just look
Speaker 5: to the example. The people coming to the streets are
Speaker 5: what got ice and a corrupt government out of their state.
Speaker 5: And I think that that's what's going to save us
Speaker 5: every time. And that lesson again was talked to him.
Speaker 5: He taught it to us, and we got to keep
Speaker 5: teaching it, so on and so on.
Speaker 1: Well, it's the point of the show where we get
Speaker 1: to our cause to action.
Speaker 9: Who cares about truth when the last morning seen.
Speaker 1: It, There's no better way for us to transition to
Speaker 1: that from one of the greatest action takers of our
Speaker 1: time working on behalf of the people.
Speaker 2: So I'll yield to whomever wants to go first.
Speaker 5: I thought that was set up a repay.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, my Reverend Degree ain't coming to mail yet.
Speaker 4: I wanted and right now answer, but I wanted en
Speaker 4: route to drop one of a seed that I don't
Speaker 4: want missed in the legacy of what Bacari shared about
Speaker 4: Revend Jackson's dad, I wanted to add what is often
Speaker 4: ignored in history is Reverend Jackson was introduced to doctor
Speaker 4: King through doctor Samuel DeWitt Proctor, who was his college
Speaker 4: professor so it was an HBCU instructor sent a letter
Speaker 4: to doctor King that says, I have a young man
Speaker 4: who's a student who needs to study under you. Had
Speaker 4: that HBCU professor not seeing something in him and connected
Speaker 4: him to the most seminal voice of the time, then
Speaker 4: I don't know what the outcome would have been. And
Speaker 4: so I wanted to give a shout out to HBCUs
Speaker 4: and HBCU professors who are really pulling out the best
Speaker 4: in our students. I think it's serendipitous that we're having
Speaker 4: this conversation en route to the midterm elections, and so
Speaker 4: Megah Evers gave us the blueprint voter education, voter registration,
Speaker 4: get out the vote. There is so much on the line,
Speaker 4: There is so much at stake, and I know all
Speaker 4: of us hear it in our sleep. Your vote is
Speaker 4: your voice, and so ask that you would please become
Speaker 4: involved in get engaged. I would say from the Black
Speaker 4: Church lens, I hope that the Black Church will take
Speaker 4: a page from white evangelicals, and the page that we
Speaker 4: should take from white evangelicals is find out what are
Speaker 4: our principles in our policies and then find the personality
Speaker 4: a lot of times in the black culture, we look
Speaker 4: for a personality without having what are our policies? There
Speaker 4: is so much on the line this election cycle that
Speaker 4: we've got to find out what are our policies, what
Speaker 4: is the ask, and then do the drive behind that.
Speaker 2: It's really good.
Speaker 3: What I was going to what I was going to
Speaker 3: say is, you know down south we have this saying
Speaker 3: and sometimes Rev when I speak around the country, around
Speaker 3: the world, you know how you say things sometimes and
Speaker 3: you expect the response from the audience and it's just
Speaker 3: crickets response. Yeah, like dog on that I'm in the
Speaker 3: wrong in the wrong part of the country for this,
Speaker 3: but we are. We say, give give people their flowers
Speaker 3: while they're living, you know. We follow that up with
Speaker 3: an a man and the crowd usually says amen, right, and uh.
Speaker 3: I think the Reverend Jackson's death shows us something that
Speaker 3: we don't necessarily want to come to grips with, which
Speaker 3: is that our heroes are dying and so right now,
Speaker 3: while we still have the Jim Clyburns, the Maxine Waters
Speaker 3: of the world, while we have a lot of these
Speaker 3: bishops and ministers and bankers and people who come from
Speaker 3: a generation that have seen so much and toiled in
Speaker 3: the proverbial vineyard. It's necessary we give people their flowers
Speaker 3: while they're living. And also if we're younger than they are,
Speaker 3: like Angela Rai and her dad, make sure we're writing
Speaker 3: for them and getting their stories and spending time with them.
Speaker 3: And I'm doing the same thing with Cleeve. It's hard
Speaker 3: to try to get them to write, but those things
Speaker 3: are so necessary. And today in particular, I know we're
Speaker 3: not supposed to necessarily give a date or a time,
Speaker 3: but on Wednesday, February eighteenth is Willie Rix's birthday. I
Speaker 3: don't know how many of you all know Willie Rix. Mukasa.
Speaker 3: Mukasa used to walk through the campus of Morehouse all
Speaker 3: the time. But Mukassa was a young member of Snick
Speaker 3: and he loved Loved Love Jesse, and he loved Doctor
Speaker 3: King and he used to get on people's nerves all
Speaker 3: the time in the movement, and Doctor King ended up.
Speaker 3: He would always give Mukassa his old clothes and so
Speaker 3: he would always have these suits and dress shoes. They
Speaker 3: were a little too big for him, but he was
Speaker 3: one of the smaller members. There's a picture of my
Speaker 3: dad in Mucassa and Harry Belafonte and Sidney Pardier at
Speaker 3: Rikers Island after they got arrested for protesting the South
Speaker 3: African Embassy in New York and Mucassa's birthdays today. One
Speaker 3: of his claim the fame, although it gets stolen from
Speaker 3: him throughout history, is that he was with Stokely Carmichael
Speaker 3: in Mississippi when they came up with the phrase black power.
Speaker 3: And for them, black power was not saying that we
Speaker 3: were going to throw cocktails through the windows of white folk,
Speaker 3: but black power for them, and I've heard Reverend Bryant
Speaker 3: talk about this all the time, was black economic power,
Speaker 3: it was black political power. Black power for them meant
Speaker 3: that we had a position of self fulfillment. And so
Speaker 3: happy birthday to Willie Rix, also known as Mucassa, one
Speaker 3: of the little known members of the movement. But you
Speaker 3: are a big part of the Seller's family and Seller's household,
Speaker 3: and you are a big part of our history.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll ask Nick if he could throw up those
Speaker 5: images of Reverend Jackson with the students with black power
Speaker 5: held up and maybe him doing a little teaching. But
Speaker 5: I want to make that my CTA, which is which
Speaker 5: is to say that, you know, we oftentimes pass judgment
Speaker 5: on people and and come up in our own heads
Speaker 5: with our own stories that we tell ourselves about the people.
Speaker 5: And I'm seeking very specifically about leaders. This was the Yeah.
Speaker 5: This was again Philip.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: These are the dream Defenders and the early orientation of
Speaker 5: that group. This is at the thirty one days of
Speaker 5: sleeping on the coal marble floors of the Florida Capital
Speaker 5: and emerging being walked out of that building with with
Speaker 5: with with rev and Jesse Jackson. But when he said, uh,
Speaker 5: I am somebody, I don't know that I fully encompassed.
Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't connect the the truth of that
Speaker 5: mantra as I was repeating it right after him. But
Speaker 5: that's a it is a powerful declaration. It's a powerful
Speaker 5: self declaration. It's a powerful community declaration. And he said
Speaker 5: it the way he said it because he felt it
Speaker 5: with his whole heart, with his whole being, and he
Speaker 5: was ministering as much to himself as he was to
Speaker 5: to those who were on the listening side. I just
Speaker 5: asked us to think, will you know, be real thoughtful
Speaker 5: about the words that we speak if we want them
Speaker 5: to have a meaning, But that phrase has taken on
Speaker 5: new resonance for me today as we talked about the Rev.
Speaker 5: I am somebody. It is my self declar but it's
Speaker 5: also a declaration for our community and the people who
Speaker 5: we love and care about, especially in this time. We're
Speaker 5: being pushed left and right and the compass isn't clear.
Speaker 5: But we are somebody, and I think that helps to
Speaker 5: make the future and what we have to do much clearer.
Speaker 1: I invite folks to go back and listen to Reverend
Speaker 1: Jackson's nineteen seventy two Nation Time speech from the National
Speaker 1: Black Political Convention. Why I think that we have to
Speaker 1: figure out where we are as a people, strengthen our
Speaker 1: foundation to ensure that we do progress, that we do
Speaker 1: move forward, that we do embody the fullness of our power.
Speaker 2: I am somebodyness.
Speaker 1: And once you do that, I asked that you tap
Speaker 1: back in with our dear brother, Reverend Doctor Jamal Bryant.
Speaker 1: There is a target boycott going on. We have to
Speaker 1: remember our power even in moments like these. The discipline
Speaker 1: that Reverend exercised in so many movements are why doors
Speaker 1: got opened for black business executiatives, blackboard members, black vendors
Speaker 1: and contractors, all of that, and we cannot ensure our
Speaker 1: progress in this country, especially in these times, without that
Speaker 1: type of extraordinary discipline.
Speaker 2: So I invite you all to do exactly that. Thank
Speaker 2: you all so.
Speaker 5: Much, Thank you Bishop for coming.
Speaker 2: Thank you, We're so very grateful for you. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: I wanted to say in closing, thank you all for
Speaker 4: having me. Glad to be a part of the family reunion.
Speaker 4: And strategically I wanted you to know what this day
Speaker 4: means to me because this marks the three hundred and
Speaker 4: eighty one days, the same amount as the Montgomery bus boycott.
Speaker 4: So to be able to come and to reflect on
Speaker 4: repend Jackson, and to do it on homeland, I can't
Speaker 4: think of a better place.
Speaker 10: I love that.
Speaker 3: I love that well. Please keep us in and keep
Speaker 3: us in your prayers.
Speaker 4: Please welcome, no, thank you, We'll do home.
Speaker 2: As always.
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Speaker 1: Please remember, I am somebody, really on the stop.
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 20: I am some box.
Speaker 7: Some bots may be cool, but I am some bots.
Speaker 7: I may be young, but I am some box. I
Speaker 7: may be on we fact, but I am somebodys. I
Speaker 7: may be small, but I am somebodies.
Speaker 4: I may make a mistake, but.
Speaker 7: I am somebody's. My clothes are different, my face is different,
Speaker 7: my hair is different.
Speaker 20: But I am somebody. I am black, brown, white. I
Speaker 20: speak a different language. But I must be respected, protected,
Speaker 20: never rejected. I am God's child. I am somebody.
Speaker 3: Give yourself a big hand.
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