WEBVTT - I Am Somebody: Remembering Reverend Jesse Jackson feat. Jamal Bryant

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<v Speaker 1>Native Lampard is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with Reason Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome home, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode one hundred and nineteen of Native lampod

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<v Speaker 1>where we give you our breakdown of all.

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<v Speaker 2>Things politics and culture.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Angela Rye, joined by my co host

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Gilliman Bacari Sellers, as well as our dear brother.

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<v Speaker 2>And guest ho host for this week, the Reverend doctor Jamal.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought the dress, Bryant.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be saying that for no reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want you to know I bought the dress

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<v Speaker 2>for no reason.

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<v Speaker 4>It haunts me to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Get out of here.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome this shit, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you'll got dress because.

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<v Speaker 2>I told carry I'm taking a dress. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad y'all got dressed up. It's mine for the right,

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<v Speaker 3>for the right. Reverend the come on the show. I

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<v Speaker 3>put on my best usher board outfit. I got my shirt.

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<v Speaker 4>You look like a d K job.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell the Stewart, it's here in the Stewart corn.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to be an elder as old as the ex,

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<v Speaker 1>as old as the ex. We're so happy to have you,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are thrilled to jump right into the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We added a new segment, Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant called

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<v Speaker 1>situational Awareness. Yes for your situational awareness, and it's always

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<v Speaker 1>because we have news you can use.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna jump right into.

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<v Speaker 1>In January, the North Carolina Board of Elections advanced voter

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<v Speaker 1>suppression causes by removing three polling sites on three college campuses,

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<v Speaker 1>Western Carolina University, North Carolina and T and the UNC Greensboro.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, a judge ruled against student plaintiffs, refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>allow the schools to retain the early voting sites, and

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<v Speaker 1>some students responded in kind, let's roll the clip.

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<v Speaker 5>You profiled us, you profiled us, you targeted us. You

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<v Speaker 5>took away our accessibility to vote.

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<v Speaker 4>You took away our accessibility to vote.

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<v Speaker 6>You took away our accessibility to vote.

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<v Speaker 5>All the benefit. Virginia Fox, Virginia Fox.

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<v Speaker 6>But you will see us and you will feel us.

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<v Speaker 4>But you will see us, and you will feel.

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<v Speaker 5>Us, and you will feel us.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm kyer Creek Moore and I'm running for the US

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<v Speaker 7>House in North Carolina's fifth Congression.

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<v Speaker 3>Editar join the.

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<v Speaker 1>Movement, Shatay said, not only take our bowling site. But

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<v Speaker 1>we gonna run somebody for office against you. I love

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<v Speaker 1>to see it. WHI y'all got?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's somebody who Yeah, somebody who ran when

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<v Speaker 3>they were twenty one years old. I'm all four. And

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<v Speaker 3>people are afraid of young people. Every college campus I

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<v Speaker 3>go to, I ask one question of everybody when I speak,

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<v Speaker 3>I say, is there a polling site on your campus?

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<v Speaker 3>And most elected officials are deathly afraid of having young

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<v Speaker 3>people have polling sites on their campus because they know

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to show up and show out. And so

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle Creek Moore, let me know when we knocking on

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<v Speaker 3>doors what we need to do, brother, because I appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>your energy, and I appreciate the way that you are

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<v Speaker 3>mobilizing young people. In the mind frame of another North

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina Anti State University grad, none other than Jesse Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it, love it, Okay, We're gonna move right along.

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<v Speaker 1>Then to last week, In a two hundred eighteen, two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirteen roll called vote, the United States House

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<v Speaker 1>of Representatives passed the Save Act for a second time.

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<v Speaker 1>The bill, which requires ID and proof of citizenship and

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<v Speaker 1>proof of citizenship, let's be clear, now makes its way

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<v Speaker 1>to the Senate, despite the fact that it is already

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<v Speaker 1>illegal for non citizens to vote. According to the League

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<v Speaker 1>of Women Voters, compared to white US citizens, citizens of

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<v Speaker 1>color are three times more likely to lack documents such

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<v Speaker 1>as birth certificates, passports, naturalization certificates, or certificates of citizenship

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<v Speaker 1>or face difficulties accessing them. For example, while approximately half

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<v Speaker 1>of all American adults possess a passport, two thirds of

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<v Speaker 1>black Americans do not. Senator Chris Murphy had something to

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<v Speaker 1>say about the Save Act coming to the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's roll it.

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<v Speaker 8>So Republicans have this bill to Save Act. It just

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<v Speaker 8>passed the House of Representatives, it's on its way to

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<v Speaker 8>the Senate, and it stands for one thing. They're trying

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<v Speaker 8>to stop your right to vote. Republicans believe that Donald

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<v Speaker 8>Trump won the twenty twenty election, and frankly, they believe

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<v Speaker 8>that anytime a Democrat wins an election it must be

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<v Speaker 8>because of fraud. They have no evidence of that claim

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<v Speaker 8>because it's made up. The fact of the matter is,

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<v Speaker 8>our elections in this country are wildly clean. There are

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<v Speaker 8>very few, if any, actual cases of fraud in most elections,

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<v Speaker 8>and when you find them, it's on the margins, one

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<v Speaker 8>or two people that shouldn't have voted here or there.

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<v Speaker 8>But Republicans want you to want you to believe that

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<v Speaker 8>this is an epidemic.

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<v Speaker 9>It isn't.

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<v Speaker 8>But what they really want to do is just stop

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<v Speaker 8>you from voting. So they're going to use this claim

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<v Speaker 8>that there's fraud in our elections to pass the Save Act,

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<v Speaker 8>which will make it way harder for you to vote.

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<v Speaker 8>One of the things the Save Act does is to

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<v Speaker 8>require your birth certificate to have your existing name on it. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>for a lot of married women, your birth certificate right

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't have have your married name, and so millions of

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<v Speaker 8>women in this country are basically disqualified from voting. It

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<v Speaker 8>requires you to produce when you register a birth certificate

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<v Speaker 8>or a passport. We don't do that now, and that's

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<v Speaker 8>how millions of Americans registered to vote online. But now

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<v Speaker 8>online registration may be completely eliminated. The bill requires states

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<v Speaker 8>every thirty days to purge their voter files of people,

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<v Speaker 8>for instance, who haven't voted in a while. So if

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<v Speaker 8>you're just busy and you haven't voted in the last

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<v Speaker 8>couple elections, you might show up to vote in the

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<v Speaker 8>next presidential election. And your name's gone because what they're

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<v Speaker 8>trying to do is just take you off the rolls.

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<v Speaker 8>This is absurd. It's all built on a lie that

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<v Speaker 8>elections are being stolen by some cabal of Democrats and

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<v Speaker 8>Nicholas Maduro and George Soros and whoever else. But it's

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<v Speaker 8>really all about just trying to stop you from being

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<v Speaker 8>able to vote. That's why we have to stop the

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<v Speaker 8>Save Act in the United States Senate. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 8>going to be working on over the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>What do y'all have on that one?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think we're one step away from how many

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<v Speaker 4>bubbles are in a soap bar, that we're making the

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<v Speaker 4>electric slide backwards. And I think it's apropos that you

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<v Speaker 4>look at the infringement because of all of the things

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<v Speaker 4>bocard that people will talk about Revend Jackson, is that

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<v Speaker 4>what should not be discounted was the numbers of people

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<v Speaker 4>organized to register the vote in four and eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>It pulled in a hailstorm of black elected officials around

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<v Speaker 4>the country who were elected because of his mobilization. And

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<v Speaker 4>I want to hinge a wagon on the first clip

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<v Speaker 4>is we spend a lot of energy around voter registration

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<v Speaker 4>and get out the vote, and not enough energy preparing

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<v Speaker 4>people to run for office. So for what that young

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<v Speaker 4>student is doing in North Carolina, I'm excited and I

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<v Speaker 4>hope that it catches on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I just I couldn't agree with you more regudd

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<v Speaker 5>the first clip training up and also just helping people

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<v Speaker 5>get in touch with their ideological belief system, like what

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<v Speaker 5>do we stand for? What are we trying to do?

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<v Speaker 5>What do we want to have changed by way of

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<v Speaker 5>us having served? What do we want to be different

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<v Speaker 5>as a result of this save Act is really it's

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<v Speaker 5>not a problem in search of a solution. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>solution in search of a problem. It'd be one thing

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<v Speaker 5>if we had tens of thousands, even thousands of people

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<v Speaker 5>or votes rather after each election being determined to have

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<v Speaker 5>been illegally cast. But in most cases it's not even

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<v Speaker 5>that the vote. That that a person has voted illegally

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<v Speaker 5>is that they have inadvertently registered to vote or have

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<v Speaker 5>been registered to vote, because many d mbs will put

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<v Speaker 5>you on the rolls should you sign the consent, and

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<v Speaker 5>people find themselves unaware that they had gotten registered and

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<v Speaker 5>may later learn that they were not legally registered. Most

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<v Speaker 5>the issues around votes in illegal voting taking place is

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<v Speaker 5>caught at the registration process, and even there there are

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<v Speaker 5>not significant numbers. So we're talking about a few hundred

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<v Speaker 5>votes in the entire country over the last ten years

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<v Speaker 5>were later determined to have been of votes cast that

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<v Speaker 5>should not have been cast, and in truth, not enough

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<v Speaker 5>to change the outcome of the election almost anywhere, not

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<v Speaker 5>enough to change the outcome of the election. So this

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<v Speaker 5>is a ruse. This is an attempt to disqualify as

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<v Speaker 5>many women because women oftentimes when married changed their last name,

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<v Speaker 5>the birth certificate doesn't match the last name that they

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<v Speaker 5>have now. They then have to write to the government

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<v Speaker 5>in the state in which they were born asked for

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<v Speaker 5>them to produce a birth certificate that then matches. Then

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<v Speaker 5>get with the state Secretary of state or whoever keeps

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<v Speaker 5>documents for the state and the state that they may

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<v Speaker 5>live in and figure out how they make reconciliation of

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<v Speaker 5>all of these different documents. And I don't know about y'all,

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<v Speaker 5>but I tried to get a Social Security card because

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<v Speaker 5>I had misplacedmined and I will tell you I got

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<v Speaker 5>two different cards sent to me with two different middle names.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Not one of them had the same middle name, and

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<v Speaker 5>so then I had to go physically into the office,

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<v Speaker 5>spend hours in waiting rooms until I could see an

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<v Speaker 5>administrator would then work with me because I had requested

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<v Speaker 5>a per certificate as well to then make this document right.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you just imagine the burden that we are putting

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<v Speaker 5>on people to frankly address a problem that is not

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<v Speaker 5>a problem. Yeah, So it's a shame, and it's a sham.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, it's a sham, and it's an intention

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<v Speaker 5>to keep out people from voting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of sham, so is the Secretary of the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Homeland Security. I know you had something for her,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Gillum.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean we got a clip of her, y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably may have seen her given commentary about what

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<v Speaker 5>she believes her expanded role as Homeland Security Secretary and

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<v Speaker 5>being over ice and the borders. Listen to what she

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<v Speaker 5>has to say, and then let's try to clarify for

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<v Speaker 5>her what her job responsibilities actually are.

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<v Speaker 10>Elections is another one of those critical infrastructure responsibilities that

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<v Speaker 10>I have as well, and I would say that many

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<v Speaker 10>people believe that it may be one of the most

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<v Speaker 10>important things that we need to make sure we trust

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<v Speaker 10>is reliable and that when it gets to election day,

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<v Speaker 10>that we've been proactive to make sure that we have

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<v Speaker 10>the right people voting, electing the right leaders to lead

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<v Speaker 10>this country through the days that we have knowing that

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<v Speaker 10>people can trust it.

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all, you know that's loaded, right, So I should let

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<v Speaker 5>y'all go on about the right people voting right, get

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<v Speaker 5>the right people voting to elect the right people. That's

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<v Speaker 5>the Homeland Security secretary who believes that she has been

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<v Speaker 5>invested with the powers of running elections in the countr.

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<v Speaker 5>So here's the fact check. She has not been invested

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<v Speaker 5>with the powers of running elections in the country. She

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<v Speaker 5>has a responsibility in the development of the Department of

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<v Speaker 5>Homeland Security. The Secretary is responsible for what is called

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<v Speaker 5>the continuity of government. Should there be some cataclysmic event

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<v Speaker 5>that takes out the president, the line of succession, a

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<v Speaker 5>nuclear attack, or some other unforeseen circumstance that removes the

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<v Speaker 5>power structure, the federal power structure, they are tasked by

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<v Speaker 5>law to have a continuity of government. What would happen

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<v Speaker 5>in such circumstance that the line of secession is wiped

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<v Speaker 5>and you've got to keep the government running in some

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<v Speaker 5>form or fashion that typically involves bureaucrats, people who know

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<v Speaker 5>how to create these sorts of systems, researchers who produce

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<v Speaker 5>these kinds of medicines and medical research, other administrators. People

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<v Speaker 5>can keep up a basic function of government. Elections, however,

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<v Speaker 5>through the Constitution and through everything where we've been taught

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<v Speaker 5>so far as I know, are is a power that

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<v Speaker 5>is to that of the state, and quite frankly, the

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<v Speaker 5>state then develops that power further down to municipalities, most

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<v Speaker 5>often at the county level. There are over one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>thousand municipalities or governmental functions that are responsible for the

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<v Speaker 5>conducting of any federal election at any particular point in time,

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<v Speaker 5>over one hundred thousand agencies, and each one of them,

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<v Speaker 5>by and large are operating by a different and unique

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<v Speaker 5>set of circumstances, rules, guidelines, with only probably two major

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<v Speaker 5>interventions by the federal government. It was the Save America

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<v Speaker 5>Act and it was something like help America Vote. If

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<v Speaker 5>y'all remember after the two thousand election tobacco, there were

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<v Speaker 5>some guidance given to help states update their counting materials

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<v Speaker 5>on and so forth. So the Secretary again has overstepped

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<v Speaker 5>her boundaries. She has no responsibility for the elections of

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<v Speaker 5>anyone at any level of government, federal, state, local, municipal.

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<v Speaker 5>She's responsible for the continuity of government, which all of

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<v Speaker 5>us out of shutter at the thought of any way.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's generally a document that's passed on from secretary

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<v Speaker 5>to secretary, so hopefy she don't screw around with it,

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<v Speaker 5>somebody else has to hit this.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I throw one fact out there real quick, because Andrew,

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<v Speaker 3>you covered a lot of ground right there. But back

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<v Speaker 3>in November, her office did find that there was one,

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<v Speaker 3>as they called them, criminal alien who voted despite not

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<v Speaker 3>being a United States Senate, United States citizen. So in

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<v Speaker 3>the entire election, they found one criminal alien. That's their words,

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<v Speaker 3>not mine. But as it turns out, that person actually

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<v Speaker 3>had a green card and voted for Donald Trump three times.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just want to I just wanted to throw

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<v Speaker 3>that little fact check out there for you. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>make it up, reverend, reverend doctor. I wanted to throw

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<v Speaker 3>that fact check out. There's a New York Times article

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<v Speaker 3>by the one and only Jonathan Carl who went through

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<v Speaker 3>this and profiled how DHS had this huge thing about

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<v Speaker 3>the about the criminal alien who voted multiple times in Kansas.

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<v Speaker 3>He's now being prosecuted by the Kansas Attorney General for

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<v Speaker 3>three counts of voting without being qualified in three counts

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<v Speaker 3>of election perjury.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you said Andrew screwing around, and so speaking of that,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go ahead and filew this next one under

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<v Speaker 1>they doing way too much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred Olympians who allegedly went through ten thousand condoms and

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<v Speaker 1>it had not yet been a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy that sound like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Sound like graves? Hall?

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<v Speaker 9>Hold on?

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on?

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<v Speaker 1>So I want you all to hear with this Olympic

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<v Speaker 1>medalist and figure skater, Adam Rippon, who's also a podcaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he has an answer to some of our questions

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<v Speaker 1>about how they move in through these condoms.

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<v Speaker 11>What's happening everyone, I'm Adam Rippon, and I have some

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<v Speaker 11>questions that Winter Olympians get asked all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to answer them.

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<v Speaker 11>What really goes down in the Olympic village. Well, obviously

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<v Speaker 11>I've heard a lot about the condoms. Who hasn't I

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<v Speaker 11>wanted to know where are all these condoms? Well, I

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<v Speaker 11>did eventually find them in the medical tent. Now, in

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<v Speaker 11>my mind it was this like, you know, lavish sort

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<v Speaker 11>of experience, but really it was just like a basket

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<v Speaker 11>filled with condoms that said in Korean generic condom, No

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<v Speaker 11>Olympic rings, no fanfare, no frills. How do the athletes

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<v Speaker 11>go through so many? I'll tell you how I went

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<v Speaker 11>through so many because I took that basket of condoms

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<v Speaker 11>and I opened my backpack and I shoved the whole

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<v Speaker 11>maybe three thousand of them in my backpack, and I

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<v Speaker 11>gave those to my friends as souvenirs. I think like

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<v Speaker 11>the real Shenanigans are happening at the summer Games, because

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<v Speaker 11>if you look at those athletes, they're basically naked and

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<v Speaker 11>it's warm outside. I don't know what you think you're

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<v Speaker 11>getting into at a cold place, you're in a parka.

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<v Speaker 11>They already set you up so that there's too many

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<v Speaker 11>layers to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, this is so funny, and I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to just take a moment to shout out the Olympics

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<v Speaker 1>Committee for encouraging safety over everything since nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight, three thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>They provided them.

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<v Speaker 1>They were they were trying to provide a pathway to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, protection to safety.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, at least the athletes give free health care.

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<v Speaker 4>So these are overachieve a guys and a whole lot

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<v Speaker 4>of others do not have.

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<v Speaker 5>So these people have been overachieving all their life. Why

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't they continue to overachieve? You know, the Olympians need

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<v Speaker 5>love too.

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<v Speaker 1>It sound like they still. He then sold thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Talking about he brought took him to his friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Versuon, I wish somebody would get First of all, I've

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<v Speaker 4>never heard of a condom as a supers what I

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<v Speaker 4>was going to say, I wish somebody would give.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it sounds like they like that in his

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<v Speaker 2>friend group.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, if I ain't got nothing else to take you,

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't no pins, it ain't no shirts, it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>no He's like, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>And he said they were in Korean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said they said condom in Korean, So they're that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>They might try to erase our history, but we make

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<v Speaker 1>more anyway. For the first time in history, five black

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<v Speaker 1>surgeons are leading the trauma unit at Johns Hopkins Medical

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<v Speaker 1>Center in Baltimore. Let's roll this black excellence clip.

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<v Speaker 12>Finally, the doctor is behind a different type of medical breakthrough.

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<v Speaker 12>Take a good look at these five doctors. More than

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<v Speaker 12>a portrait, it's a moment suspended in history. For the

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<v Speaker 12>first time, five African American surgeons now lead the trauma

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<v Speaker 12>service at the pre eminent Johns Hopkins Hospital. Tonight we

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<v Speaker 12>hear from some of the trailblazers behind this historic team.

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<v Speaker 6>My parents are so proud. I am the first physician

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<v Speaker 6>in my family, and I think it's so impactful.

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<v Speaker 12>For doctor Lawrence Brown, medicine is more than science. It's service.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what's important to me. Equity has to remain at

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<v Speaker 6>the forefront of how we deliver patient care, how we

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<v Speaker 6>do research, how we scale programs up in our healthcare system.

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<v Speaker 12>Doctor Zachary Numa is a result of service that was

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<v Speaker 12>modeled and purpose that was inherited.

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<v Speaker 13>Growing up in Columbus, Georgia in the nineteen nineties, I

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<v Speaker 13>watched my parents, my mom a family medicine doc, my

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<v Speaker 13>dad a general surgeon, show up to serve patients every day.

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<v Speaker 12>For doctor E. Fae Sciombo, history isn't just remembered here,

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<v Speaker 12>it's carried forward.

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<v Speaker 14>The best part is that I get to save lives

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<v Speaker 14>and have an impact every single day to anyone who's watching.

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<v Speaker 14>Realize that your dream and capacity can only be limited

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<v Speaker 14>by you, and if you can think it, see it,

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<v Speaker 14>then you can absolutely reach it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, proud of them any reflection, y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>I would just say, for those who want to kick

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<v Speaker 5>immigrants out or not let them in the first place,

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<v Speaker 5>I'd be curious. I don't know the places of origin

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<v Speaker 5>for all of the doctors there, but I could I

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<v Speaker 5>think I could see that there were two who probably

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<v Speaker 5>were from the continent or through their lineage with their parents.

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<v Speaker 5>I could tell one by the head scarf representing one

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<v Speaker 5>of an African country. So I just think we've got

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<v Speaker 5>brilliant people who come from all over the world, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's true in every profession. I'm proud of these brothers

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<v Speaker 5>and I, you know, and sister, I wish them well.

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<v Speaker 5>But just think again, when we want to push people

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<v Speaker 5>so quickly out of this country, stop folks and coming in,

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<v Speaker 5>how much this nation has grown, been built, sustained expanded

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<v Speaker 5>by the you know, the teachings, the talents and creativity

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<v Speaker 5>of people from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just remind people who are listening that at

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<v Speaker 3>last checking, I may be off by a half a

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<v Speaker 3>percent or maybe a full percent, but about five five

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<v Speaker 3>and a half percent of all doctors in this country

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<v Speaker 3>are black. That number, because of the actions by the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration, by the cowardice of some of these major institutions,

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<v Speaker 3>is going to go down. That is an unfortunate reality

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<v Speaker 3>we face. This is why we have to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that we're strengthening our HBCUs. Because of that five and

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<v Speaker 3>a half percent, six percent, fifty percent of that number

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<v Speaker 3>have graduated from our historically black colleges and universities. And

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<v Speaker 3>my dad would always say, why are you trying to

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<v Speaker 3>go somewhere where they don't want you anyway? And so

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<v Speaker 3>I just want us to remember, as as young people

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<v Speaker 3>are making these very difficult decisions about college, make sure

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<v Speaker 3>you give the Xaviers of the world, the Florida and

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<v Speaker 3>ms I Guess of the world. The more houses those

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<v Speaker 3>individuals who have a history of producing doctors, give them

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<v Speaker 3>a look. If your child wants to be a doctor,

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're in a lum of that institution, instead

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<v Speaker 3>of writing your five or ten dollars check a month,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe one month, just use your drinking budget, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>write one hundred and fifty dollars check, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fifty dollars check. And so I think

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<v Speaker 3>that this is a lesson of our excellence, but also

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<v Speaker 3>shows how much we have to you know, Ecclesiastes chapter three,

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<v Speaker 3>Reverend says that there's a time and a season for everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But you got a water. You got a water, what

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<v Speaker 3>you've what you've sown in order for it to grow.

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<v Speaker 3>And so hopefully we want our HBCU so we can

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<v Speaker 3>continue to put forth great individuals like these. Five kudos

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<v Speaker 3>and hats off to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to challenge a real re evaluation for the

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<v Speaker 4>community with our healthcare professionals, with the attack on healthcare

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<v Speaker 4>and Black people in an inordinate way of dying from

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<v Speaker 4>pre existing conditions. I wanted to challenge our churches that

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<v Speaker 4>we really have a health ministry in place. And I

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<v Speaker 4>often say the Black Church is the only place in

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<v Speaker 4>the world where you can volunteer to be a nurse.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't know how to do CPR, they don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how to do the high liver maneuver. They just got

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<v Speaker 4>a pocket full of mints. But we got to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that we equipment. We got to equip the church

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<v Speaker 4>so that we can get that information, and we need

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<v Speaker 4>our black health care professionals to assist us because a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people in our community are going to be

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<v Speaker 4>adversely impacted because they are either uninsured or underinsured.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely well.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to these black folks making black history, our

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<v Speaker 1>dear brother, Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant and his lovely bride,

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend doctor because we can put some respect on her

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<v Speaker 1>name to Reverend doctor Carry Bryant, made.

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<v Speaker 2>History as well.

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<v Speaker 1>At their church, they preach a joint sermon together for

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<v Speaker 1>Black Love Day, Valentine's Day, and Frederick Douglass Weekend. And

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<v Speaker 1>we want to roll two of those clips. Let's get it.

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<v Speaker 13>Let me start by saying this, every woman is not

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<v Speaker 13>the same. Come on, sisters, Her difference is what makes

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<v Speaker 13>her unique. Your ability to learn the language of the

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<v Speaker 13>woman in your life, if starts with you studying her difference,

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<v Speaker 13>you may find often that there are two general styles

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<v Speaker 13>for women. A style when she feels loved, when she

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<v Speaker 13>feels spiritually and emotionally safe, when she feels respected, she'll

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<v Speaker 13>be direct, but she gonna be tender. She's warm, and

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<v Speaker 13>she's gonna be honest. When she's safe, she'll be playful

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<v Speaker 13>with you. She'll tease and have banter back and forth

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<v Speaker 13>with you. When she's respected, she'll be emotionally open with

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<v Speaker 13>you and begin to share her fears, her vulnerabilities, and

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<v Speaker 13>her dreams. She'll be nurturing and affirming. Her nonverbal attributes

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<v Speaker 13>will show in her body language that it feels good

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<v Speaker 13>to be around you. Can I tell you that a

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<v Speaker 13>woman who is safe speaks differently, She moves differently, she

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<v Speaker 13>engages differently. Now there is another style that she may

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<v Speaker 13>have when she feels unsafe or indifferent. My lord, She's

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<v Speaker 13>gonna be direct and short guarded, emotionally flat at times, cold,

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<v Speaker 13>possibly withdrawing access from you. She might cold switch.

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<v Speaker 5>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 13>That means you're gonna get corporate Carrie, and not the

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<v Speaker 13>carry you know at home.

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<v Speaker 5>Corporate.

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<v Speaker 13>Hello, how are you? What is it that I can

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<v Speaker 13>assist you with today? Did you receive the email that

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<v Speaker 13>I see you? My hours are between nine and five.

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<v Speaker 13>Would like to contact me? You can go through my assistant.

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<v Speaker 13>She will be more than happy to help you. Y'all

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<v Speaker 13>know what I'm talking about. She will be dismissive and uninterested.

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<v Speaker 13>Don't think you're gonna get no band to no plan around,

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<v Speaker 13>no smiles on our faces, because when we feel unsafe,

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 13>we close off. We leave the text on red.

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<v Speaker 3>She was just staring at you right now.

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<v Speaker 15>Oh lord.

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<v Speaker 4>There were times during the Super Bowl when bad Bunny

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 4>looked in the camera but didn't say anything. I need

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 4>you to hear this. The man in your life wants

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 4>you to hear this.

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 3>Women talk to you.

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 5>Gonna have to.

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 4>High fire me in the spirit. Silence does not mean disconnection.

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 4>Women speak on average sixteen thousand words a day. Brothers,

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 4>just blink at me twice. I know you can't say

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 4>amen right now. Just meet me in the hallway. I

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 4>got you. Women speak sixteen thousand words a day and

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 4>men only speak seven thousand words a day. So many

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 4>times men hear this, think through reflection and not through articulation. Wives,

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 4>I got to ask you a question. Think for a moment.

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Why it is only men who require a man cave.

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 4>There's no such thing as a woman cave.

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Men.

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 4>When we hear what you are saying, we think, how

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 4>do we solve it? And many times you are sharing

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 4>when we are looking to solving.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Boy, I want to hear this type of feedback you

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>are going. I was like, I want to go back

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>and hear the whole thing. I have not yet, and

0:26:58.400 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I really want to.

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<v Speaker 4>No. My parents years ago. My mother transitioned last year,

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 4>but years ago, my parents used to preach together in

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 4>their church in Baltimore. This is over twenty five years ago.

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.239
<v Speaker 4>So I said, carry, let's try it. This was our

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 4>first time ever doing anything in that realm at all.

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 4>But what I really want you to see, Ange is

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 4>after the sermon, we renewed the vowels of one hundred

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 4>and fifty married couples. So to see one hundred and

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:36.479
<v Speaker 4>fifty black couples on one stage, what was amazing, Andrew.

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 4>What was crazy is we wanted to honor the couple

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 4>that had been married the longest. They had been fifty

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 4>seven years married. And then we said, who's been married

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 4>the shortest amount of time. It was a couple that

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 4>was four months. So we said, we're going to give

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 4>a gift to the couple who's been married the shortest

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 4>amount of time to go to dinner with the couple

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 4>that's been married the longest, so that they can them

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 4>and mentor on and give them the tools. So my

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 4>staff hands me a card. Okay, the couple that's been married.

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 4>To show this some abount of time is Lisa and Michael,

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 4>said Lisa and Michael. Because it's one hundred and fifty

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 4>couples out here. Lisa and Michael, y'all come up. We

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 4>want to give you this gift certificate and meet the

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 4>oldest couple. Okay, the couple that have been married for

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 4>four months was sixty years old. Because the groop, the

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 4>group was on a cane.

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 3>We had to help you get up.

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 4>When you're talking about love for the second time and

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 4>what we had in our path.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 16>Man.

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 4>But to answer your question, it was it was absolutely

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 4>Love comes in so many different shapes and sizes forms. Listen,

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 4>don't let love just happened for the twenty years, right,

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 4>letting Nana get some. Letting Nana get some.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Lord, first of all, my brother she so let

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>me find out he pop pop. But yeah, that is incredible.

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 17>It was.

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:07.959
<v Speaker 2>It was such a good sermon.

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>And I think the way that the clips because again, y'all,

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go back and watch it. I urge

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>our listeners to go and watch it and listen to

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it as well. But I think what's so remarkable about

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, with you and with Carrie, I

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>love you, Guys's love. I just sent a text the

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>other day. I sent Carrie's clip to Mignon and Kim

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and I literally said that. I said, she is the

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>perfect mate for Jamal, Like we could not have designed

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a better person.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>God knew exactly what God was doing.

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>So I just I want to shout out our dear sister,

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>especially because there's so many times where she's come under

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>attack for being different, for showing up in ways that

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>they don't see a traditional first lady or you know,

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a pastor who's a woman, And I just love that

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>she's like, I am going to define myself for myself

0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and y'all just gonna have to.

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait and see. That doesn't mean that it's any less painful.

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>So I applied you to brother for being ride or

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Di said a wheels fall off and saying I bought

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the dress and everything else you got to say in between.

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>To make sure that she knows she's protected.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 3>And you know, why are you here? Let me just

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 3>steal some advice from you while we got you. Let

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 3>me ask you a personal question. Just act like Andrew

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.959
<v Speaker 3>and Angela aren't here, But what are some of the

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 3>tools that you use in your marriage. Whenever moments of

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 3>conflict arise with someone who is strong and independent and

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 3>someone you love with your whole heart, but equally yoked,

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 3>how do you avoid spiraling and making sure that your

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 3>lines of communication remain open.

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say just to Bakari and Andrew as you

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 4>can is drop the whole controversy with the dress really

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 4>awakened something in me Boocard that I had adjusted to

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 4>disc function. I was so used to being persecuted that

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:08.959
<v Speaker 4>I became nun so it didn't bother me what blog

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 4>said or what the Internet had to say, or what

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 4>was the crazy comments, because I'm used to people coming sideways,

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 4>But seeing my wife's humanity in it, I realized that

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 4>I had compartmentalized. And because all of us, Bacary, Angela, Andrew,

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 4>we have grown up in public space one way or another.

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 4>You can become so numb to it or adjusted to

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 4>it that you almost have to parent your partner. You

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 4>know you holding it. It's gonna be okay, right, this

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 4>will be at the next news cycle. Just give it

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 4>a couple of days. Don't respond, because we've been in it,

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 4>and if not ourselves, the people who have mentored us

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 4>we have had to watch them go through it and

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 4>so becaar. It tapped into my humanity that it's okay

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 4>to be superman. But the reality is all of us

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 4>are clock can and so rather than being dismissive, you

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 4>have to identify with the pain. Not I tell you

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 4>it's okay, but to say, you know what, this hurts

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 4>me too, and it hurts me that it hurts you.

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 4>But minimizing it is only going to exacerbate it, because

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna make them question why am I hurt? Why

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 4>am I angry? And when we're in this public space,

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 4>people forget that you're human, They forget that you actually

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 4>have feelings. And so we have gone into we pray

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 4>together every day as opposed to praying together when we're

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 4>in crisis. So when you pray together every day, it

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 4>creates a different kind of rhythm so that it doesn't

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 4>become alien and it's not in case of emergency break glass.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 4>My mother used to say something to me years ago,

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 4>and I give this to all the singles who are watching.

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 4>Prayer is more intimate than sex. That people will sleep

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 4>with you who would never pray with you. That's a fact.

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 3>You don't you know? Some of their prayers don't make

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 3>it through the roof, so you can't listen.

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you can always tell us, I would say, identifying

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 4>it and then taking away your tough skin, because it

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 4>can become an enabler. And you got to really get

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 4>in touch at your humanity and a lot of times

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 4>because we feel it through our kids, or we feel

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 4>through our spouse, and so being more in tune to

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 4>your humanity and not just the black button.

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry to take some time that was on my heart.

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 5>So I just had to ask, Yeah, well you are

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean you the descermine y'all hit y'all, y'all hit

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 5>on it. I mean y'all been in anybody's households. It

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 5>felt like you you observed enough of what happens in marriages,

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 5>and obviously your life experience has lent a lot to it.

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 5>But blessing to your parishioners and obviously for you all's

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 5>willingness to make sure that you're sharing your messages outside

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 5>of the edifice, outside of the building itself, so that

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 5>you know, unchurched people and otherwise are able to access

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 5>it and be drawn closer quite frankly to Christ, because

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 5>that's what this is all is that's what this is

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 5>all for. That it brings us closer uh and and

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 5>deeper into our faith. And I'll just say you you

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 5>were running down my street, up the block through the

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 5>front door on this idea of the numbing that you

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 5>do with regard to criticism, to the point that you

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 5>lessen it so much that when others are going through it,

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 5>your spouse, you're like, why can't you snap back? It's

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 5>just like, you know, keep it moving, like get with

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 5>it where that is what it is, move on and

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 5>it'll be over and Jay during you know. So the

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 5>zenith of crisis that we were in, a bought this

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 5>T shirt that said, what you don't understand about me,

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 5>what you need to understand about me is I'm not

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 5>you and the rest will make sense. And it, like spoke,

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 5>she had reached out a place where it was like, Okay,

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 5>what works for you is and what work for me,

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 5>and what work for me may not work for you,

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 5>but you just need to understand that we're not gonna

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 5>see these things the same way. I have my own

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 5>way of seeing it. And now the rest of all

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 5>my decisions will make sense to you that they're not yours,

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 5>their mine.

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 4>And let me add because I don't want to be

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 4>presumptuous of everybody knowing my story. It is the second

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 4>marriage for both care and myself. I was divorced for

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:42.320
<v Speaker 4>ten years. Carry was divorced for nine years, and Nelson

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 4>Mandela said, it is not a loss, it's a lesson.

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 4>That's right, and so you should learn something from your

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 4>previous relationships. Sometimes the lesson is you learn what not

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 4>to do, and you learn that it's not always the

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 4>other person, but what is the brokenness in you that

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 4>has to be address right?

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>That's right, well on that there is a broke, some

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>brokenness in our community. This week we lost the giant

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows.

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:19.959
<v Speaker 2>We want to pay tribute to that giant right now.

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 9>At three o'clock on Thanksgiving Day, we couldn't eat turkey

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 9>because Mama must to paying somebody else's turkey. At three

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 9>o'clock we had to play football if you have detained ourselves.

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 9>And then around six o'clock she would get off the

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 9>After this the bus and we would bring up the

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 9>leftover us and eat out turkey leftover us the caucus

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 9>the Cranberrys around eight o'clock at night. I really do

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 9>understand every one of these funny labels they put on you.

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 9>Those of you were watching this broadcast at night in

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 9>the projects on the corners, I understand. Call you out cast,

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 9>low down. You can't make it. You're nothing. You're from nobody,

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 9>sub class on the class. When you see Jesse Jackson,

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 9>when my name goes in nomination, your name goes in nomination.

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 9>I was born in the slum, for the slum was

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 9>not born in me, and it wasn't going in you.

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 9>And you can make it wherever you are tonight. You

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 9>can make it. Hould your head high, stick your chest out,

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 9>you can make it. It gets dark sometimes, but the

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 9>morning comes. Don't you surrender suffering, grief, character, character, priests,

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 9>faith In the end, faith will not the support. You

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 9>must not surrender. You may or may not get that,

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 9>but just know that you are qualified. When you hold

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 9>on and hold out. We must never surrender. America will

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 9>get better and better. Keep hope of life. Jeep Hope alive,

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 9>Jim Hope alive. Oh tomorrow night and the yond, Jeep

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 9>Hope Alive. I love you very much.

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:12.919
<v Speaker 8>I love you very much.

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I can never see that clip and not cry, So

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I just will say that there are plenty of obituaries

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>going out from press, from white publications, some of them

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>throwing the little digs in the shade. And we all

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>have personal stories with Reverend who has shaped all of

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>us in some way, and so we wanted to take

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>some time today to share some of those stories. And

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.959
<v Speaker 1>I will yield to whomever wants to start. I need

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>just a second to gather, but we have a ton

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>more clips just of Reverend himself and also a response,

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>a preemptive response from Reverend to Donald Trump before that

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 1>crazy social post on Tuesday.

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I think we should let our guests go first and

0:38:58.520 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 3>set the tongue.

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 4>I am overwhelmed. Our generation never saw doctor King in person,

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 4>but were able to get to the hymn of Jesse Jackson.

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 4>What a lot of people miss is in the last

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 4>speech of Martin Luther King Junior at Mason Temple, Church

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 4>of God in Christ, he told the people in the

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 4>audience tomorrow morning, go to a black bank, put your

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 4>money there. He told them about a bridge company in Memphis,

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 4>because he began the shift from civil rights to civil rights.

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 4>And what a lot of people are going to miss

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 4>over the next ensuing days is that Jesse Jackson really

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 4>heralded around corporate responsibility from Budweiser to Pepsi to Toyota,

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 4>and a large measure what it is that we're doing

0:39:55.760 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 4>with the Target Fast boycott is the the seed of

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 4>Reverend Jesse Jackson, who modeled that. And I am proud

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 4>that his last protest in his life was with me

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 4>outside of Target in Chicago, and so I'm grateful that

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 4>the legacy he left, he was able to see another

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 4>generation carried the torch, and I prayed that we'll continue

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 4>to do.

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 3>So. I love that. I love that.

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:31.280
<v Speaker 5>What an honor and pastor you taking the baton, because

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 5>you're crystal clear and right on the ways in which

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 5>Reverend Jackson really made centerfold for our community economic uplift,

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 5>economic justice in the form of making sure boardrooms and

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 5>c suites reflected black people, black men, and black women

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 5>at those tables. And I will tell you, if we

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 5>could interview some of those earlier C suite executives and

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 5>corporations Fortune five hundred and for one companies in this country,

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 5>if we could interview those black folks who walk through

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 5>that door, I would wager that many of them would

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 5>credit the work of Jesse Jackson. Those who are aware

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 5>were credit the work of Jesse Jackson as having created

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 5>a pathway and open opened some doors. I'll tell you

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 5>my first real work with Reverend Jackson was in like

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety nine, two thousand, and I will admit I

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:33.760
<v Speaker 5>was not really receiving him with open arms. I had

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 5>and I think, if I'm to be honest, a lot

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 5>of my peers, you know, in college in two thousand

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 5>at that time, were skeptical of Reverend Jackson. They weren't

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.760
<v Speaker 5>sure if this was you know, some flash you got,

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, suit who with cameras coming in to overtake

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, our protests and what we were trying to

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 5>do or what was going on. So there was a

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 5>there was sort of an eye of suspicion, and I'll

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 5>tell you those walls came down and the very few

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 5>days that we got to spend together organizing around the

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 5>march on Tallahassee, the largest civil rights protests in the

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:12.399
<v Speaker 5>history of the state of Florida, around voting the two

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.760
<v Speaker 5>thousand presidential election, where he came and camped out here.

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 5>The marches in which he came and assisted me with

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 5>not by my invitation, by the way. And that was

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 5>the beauty of him is he didn't really wait for

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 5>you to call him, you know, to invite him to

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 5>the protests. You were organizeding to the city and you

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 5>were leading. I don't know how he did it, but

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 5>Rev had his tentacles, you know, to the ground, and

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 3>He called up, what's y'all gonna do about that? What

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 3>do y'all?

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 5>Y'all fam U students, you right there in the capitol,

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 5>right there with the government, right there with the governor.

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 5>And he was the one of the first people who

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 5>teach me, to taught me the lesson that it wasn't

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't just when black people at fam you were

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 5>impacted that we need to show out, but because of

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 5>our proximity to where power was, and he meant physical

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 5>proximity in the same city where the governor lives and

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 5>where the legislature convenced that when when they come out

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 5>to black people, is our responsibility to be the first

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 5>line of defense. He expected us to be down sleeping

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 5>at the capitol or protesting us either governor's mansion or

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 5>doing whatever was required to raise the voices and the

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 5>rejection of black people and to register that complaint not

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 5>just on behalf of us as family students, but on

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.760
<v Speaker 5>behalf of black people in the state of Florida.

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Period.

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 5>He imbued in us the belief that we had a

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 5>responsibility for our collective community, not just for ourselves. I'll

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 5>never forget it, and I've tried to pass that on

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 5>to other young leaders as I've encountered them. He was

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 5>here again with my sister when she was student body president,

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 5>and Philip Agnew, who was student body president, served as

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 5>vice president to him, and they began the organization Dream

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 5>Defenders right there sitting at the knee of Jesse Jackson

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 5>when they protest and stayed and slept on the capitol

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 5>floor of the rotunda in the Florida Capital for thirty

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:02.399
<v Speaker 5>one days, thirty one days, and Reverend Jackson came in

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 5>in those final days because he said he knew that

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 5>the government was not going to respond in the way

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 5>that it should under the Republican administration, so that those

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 5>kids needed a way that they could exit that building

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 5>with pride.

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.760
<v Speaker 18>He wanted them to be able after thirty one days

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 18>to walk out in victory, and so he flew down

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 18>and eleven o'clock at night is convening us to talk

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 18>about what the strategy is going to be for their exit.

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 5>And on behalf of my sister myself. I'm sure Philip

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 5>Agnew would agree that the lessons he's taught is the

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 5>gift that keeps on giving, because these young people have

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 5>now gone out into the world and have made really

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 5>big change, and because of him, they are able to

0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 5>do it with a more strategic.

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Mind that.

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.359
<v Speaker 5>Reverend Jackson may have been there on the front lines

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 5>of the protests, but believe you me, before they came

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 5>out there, there was a meeting about what was going

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 5>to happen the day after that, and the day after that,

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 5>and the day after that and the day after that,

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 5>because that's the way he thought. He was already he

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 5>had his mindset on what victory was going to look

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 5>like for us, and in the process of protesting, he

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 5>didn't want us ever to walk out looking like or

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 5>feeling like.

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 3>We were the losers.

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 5>He wanted us walking out feeling and believing and having

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:36.320
<v Speaker 5>achieved real victory there. And I'm thankful for it. And

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 5>for those folks who get skeptical of the leaders that

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 5>you see on TV all the time, or the ones

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 5>you think run around and just chase cameras and aren't

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 5>really invested in what it is you do. I would

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 5>actually to reconsider and think again, because as I now

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 5>reflect on it, I know that the attention that we

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 5>got on so much of the activism that we were

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 5>doing at the time wasn't because it was good and

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 5>just working us necessarily. It was because the Reverend decided

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 5>to show up, and with him came twenty thirty forty

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 5>cameras and journalists who told our stories and broadcast it

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 5>out for huge audiences to here, to understand and to

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:17.240
<v Speaker 5>activate around. And so I thank him, and I hope

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 5>that he goes to glory knowing that he has raised

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 5>multiple generations of people who were prepared to pick up

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 5>the torch and keep marching.

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to roll this nineteen eighty four clip of

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>his DNC speech before we get to you, Bikari.

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 9>President Reagan sass nation is in recovery. Those ninety thousand

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 9>corporations that made the prophet last year but paid no

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 9>federal taxes are recovering the feder seven thousand military contractors

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 9>for benefited from Reagan's more than doubling the military budget

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 9>in peach time. Sure that they are recovering. The big

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 9>corporations and rich individuals who received the book of the

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 9>three year mother begging tax cuts for mister rigging are recovering,

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 9>but no such recovery is on the way for the

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 9>least of These rising tides don't lift all boats, particularly

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 9>those stuck at the bottom. For the boats stuck at

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 9>the bottom, there's a misery index. This administration has made

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 9>life more miserable for the poor. Its attitude has been contemptuous.

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 9>Its policies and programs have been cruel and unfair the

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:36.800
<v Speaker 9>working people. They must be haled accountable in November for

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 9>increasing into mortality among the poor. In the chart one

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 9>of the great cities of the Western world, babies are

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 9>dying at the same rate as Honduras, the most undeveloped

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:57.839
<v Speaker 9>nation in our hemisphere. This administration must be held accountable

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 9>for policies that look contribute to poverty in America. They

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:08.760
<v Speaker 9>are now plenty four million people in poverty, fifteen percent

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 9>of our nation, twenty three million of white, eleven million Black,

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 9>Hispanic Asian, and others, mostly women and children. By the

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 9>end of this year, that would be forty one million

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 9>people in poverty. We cannot stand O Leby, we must

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 9>f fight for change now.

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Pakari.

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, I mean I think that people sometimes get

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 3>caught up in the oratory or the cameras or the lights,

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 3>but they don't know the dynam dynamism that is the man.

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're talking about someone who rescued hostages from Syria.

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 3>You're talking about someone who at his infancy ran Operation

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 3>bread Basket. You're talking about someone who nestled up with

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 3>doctor Martin Luther King Jr. But also was respected by

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Ronald Reagan. I mean, just when you look at the

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 3>resume and the breath of it, I think we all

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 3>envy the level of respect that came with being Jesse Jackson.

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 3>I also think that his mind worked in ways that

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 3>others really don't understand. It was a message that Jesse

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 3>and my father would always say. And I remember when

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Deray and Brittany and all of them at the beginning

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 3>of Precipice of Black Lives Matter, where marching and blocking

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 3>highways in Louisiana, and my daddy called and said, you know,

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 3>let's make sure that they're not protesting at night, because

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.280
<v Speaker 3>people do under the cover of darkness what they wouldn't otherwise.

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Do during the day. It was this kind of way

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 3>in which we've seen this and done this type of

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:08.359
<v Speaker 3>ideal that Reverend Bryant talked about that they lived through

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 3>that you don't have to read about it. You know

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 3>the people who can tell you the stories. And my

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 3>familiarity with Reverend Jackson is that I call him Uncle Jesse,

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 3>like we called him Uncle Mary and Barry or Uncle

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Julian Bond. I'm a product of the proverb it takes

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 3>a village to raise a child. And so as we

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 3>were laughing beforehand, we always call the little Jesse Jesse

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Jackson Junior, Little Jesse because when he was at North

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Carolina A and T he used to babysit me. He

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 3>used to come over and eat spaghetti dinners on Friday.

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 3>That was the type of family structure that we had.

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 3>And my dad and Reverend Jackson they clashed at times

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 3>like many people throughout the movement, and it wasn't a

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 3>clash over how much do we love black folks. It

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 3>was a clash over how do we get to the mountaintop.

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 3>And as I talked about a little bit on air

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.320
<v Speaker 3>and love using my platform to uplift store, where is

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 3>that people don't know. You know, as you had those

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:07.240
<v Speaker 3>rifts between W. E. B. The Boys and Booker T. Washington,

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 3>the same rifts you had with Martin and Malcolm, the

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 3>same riffs you had of legendary riffs that I know

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Reverend Bryant knows about between Julianne Bond and John Lewis.

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:19.760
<v Speaker 3>The more fascinating part about Barack Obama and Jesse Jackson

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 3>is that they were able to have a conversation before

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 3>one of them passed away. They were able to mend

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.800
<v Speaker 3>those fences, They were able to let their heart beat.

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 3>You saw the tears that came from Jesse Jackson's eyes

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 3>when Barack Obama won that election. You saw him be

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:41.320
<v Speaker 3>able to echo the fact that his work meant something.

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 3>And I just look at the product you talked about, Andrew,

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 3>what he meant to you all in that circle. I

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:51.359
<v Speaker 3>recall when my father worked on the nineteen eighty four

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 3>and eighty eight campaign, really close to Jesse. But they

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 3>hired two young women who we both know. They hired

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.359
<v Speaker 3>a young woman named Donna Brazil. They hired a woman

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 3>named Mignon Moore. These institutions, right, that's where they got

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 3>their start. You know how many people got their start

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty four, in nineteen eighty eight, and it's

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 3>just fascinating to see. And Bernie Sanders, for example, is

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 3>eighty something years old. And I can say this with

0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 3>true veracity. There would not be a Bernie Sanders if

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 3>there wasn't a Jesse Jackson. There wouldn't be an AOC

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:26.240
<v Speaker 3>if there wasn't a Jesse Jackson. And he was bigger

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:28.879
<v Speaker 3>than the Democratic Party. That's what I want people to know.

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 3>He spoke to a humanity that people don't necessarily recognize.

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I encourage everybody to go back and look at his

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty eight speech, the one that we watched a

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 3>clip of, but watch how he talked about the American quilt.

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 3>The last point that I'll make is something that I

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 3>echoed before, but it's so important, and his oratory reminds

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 3>me of revend Bryant's so much, not just an allocution,

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 3>but in the way that they're able to drive home

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:56.279
<v Speaker 3>lessons with metaphor, because the way that Jesse Jackson was

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 3>one time pinned down by a white reporter. He echoed

0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 3>this later in his life about equality, and he compared

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 3>it to sport. And I go back to that all

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:08.320
<v Speaker 3>the time, because it's not that we excel in sport

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:12.840
<v Speaker 3>because of our size or our hyper athleticism. We excel

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 3>at sport because no matter what basketball court you get onto,

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:20.959
<v Speaker 3>it's ninety four feet, it's fifty feet wide, the rim

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 3>is ten feet high, the basketball is the same size,

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:26.799
<v Speaker 3>and the rules are known before the game. It's the

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 3>same with the with the baseball feel, it's the same

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:31.320
<v Speaker 3>with the hockey ring. It's the same with the track.

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 3>We know the rules. When the rules are clear, we

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 3>can excel. However, outside of sport, for black people, those

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 3>rules change. And Reverend Jackson was just so clear about it.

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 3>He loved his family, He loved Youseuff, he loved Jesse,

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 3>he loved he loved Jonathan, he loved them, He loved

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 3>every single person that he came around with. I was

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 3>fortunate enough to allow him the opportunity. We saw each

0:53:57.640 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 3>other in Chicago and he was in a hotel. I

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 3>was for a conference, and he wanted to speak to Cleve.

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:04.480
<v Speaker 3>He had an opportunity to speak to my dad, and

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:05.760
<v Speaker 3>that was just a powerful moment.

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:14.360
<v Speaker 4>I want to just as an aside, just for historical record,

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 4>is the transition that Reverend Jackson brought in the black

0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 4>and white footage of the civil rights movement. Everyone was

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:30.800
<v Speaker 4>pristine and black suits, white shirt, black tie. Jesse Jackson

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:35.200
<v Speaker 4>is not given due in large measure to help usher

0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 4>in hip hop culture. So to go from those shop

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 4>line haircuts to afros, dashiki's and medallions was not just

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:50.359
<v Speaker 4>a change in leadership. I don't want it to get

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 4>so far away. It was a change of what we

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:59.759
<v Speaker 4>knew for leadership to look like and gave permission that

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 4>we did not need acceptability from what a culture was

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:08.000
<v Speaker 4>looking like. So from some of the Montgomery they marched,

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 4>all them miles in suits and dresses and eels and stockings,

0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 4>and Jesse comes with his chest out with a fist

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 4>lifted up saying, hey, take me as I am. And

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:26.439
<v Speaker 4>out of that really came the raw audacity of hip

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:30.360
<v Speaker 4>hop culture to say this is who it is, that

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 4>we are the most known slogan and Americana outside of

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:38.960
<v Speaker 4>a coca and a smile, and you deserve a break today?

0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:45.800
<v Speaker 4>Is I am? Somebody? Keep up alive. And so that's

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 4>before we started using saying you have a brand. This

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 4>was our marching orders. The soundtrack of Jesse Jackson's movement

0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 4>was James Brown say aloud, I'm Black and I'm proud.

0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Uh So to know how revolutionary it was for poor

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 4>black people to say I am somebody.

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:12.880
<v Speaker 4>What wasn't just a slogan or a T shirt or

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 4>a banner, It was a mindset, right, And so Angela,

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 4>that is so important because he was saying I am

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:24.400
<v Speaker 4>somebody drum roll. Before there was a Ted talk, Yes,

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:30.920
<v Speaker 4>before there was self help books at Bonds and Noble,

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 4>before people could listen to audio books, they knew I

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:40.600
<v Speaker 4>am somebody. And I think that to raise the self

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 4>esteem of ostracized and marginalized people is a work that

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 4>you can't even quantify. And so I'm I'm grateful for

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 4>him by having that kind of brave, raw audacity to

0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 4>tell oppressed people I'm somebody. He is simply amazing.

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 3>He was always proud, and I think I'm sorry. I

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:07.919
<v Speaker 3>was just going to say a lot of people don't

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 3>know his story growing up in Greenville. His mother was

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 3>sixteen years old when she had him, and people don't

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 3>know that part of his story. He grew up in

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 3>abject property. The unique part about it, which I hope

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of I'd say it was like his villain. What

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 3>do they say when you like your villain arc or whatever,

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 3>when you're born into the villainy or whatever. But people

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 3>don't know that his father, his father lived right next

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 3>door to him. He didn't know that growing up. But

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 3>his father was a successful businessman who was also his

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 3>next door neighbor. And here he is growing up in

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:48.640
<v Speaker 3>abject property when I mean poverty. They used they had

0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:53.440
<v Speaker 3>an outhouse, and he grew up under the rigors of segregation,

0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:56.160
<v Speaker 3>riding in the back of the bus, drinking out of

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 3>different water fountains. And here he is growing up poor

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:02.880
<v Speaker 3>and the man who is your quote unquote father, is

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 3>your next door neighbor. I mean, just think about the

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 3>the effect that that has on who you are. And

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 3>that's why when he says, I was born in the slums,

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:15.920
<v Speaker 3>but the slums are not in me. I mean, it

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:19.440
<v Speaker 3>just speaks so powerfully to his story. And I also

0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 3>help I also think that his entire life and this

0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:25.640
<v Speaker 3>is just me talking, and you know we've talked about it,

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 3>but I think he was trying to prove something to himself,

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 3>and I think he was proving something to the world.

0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think he was proving something to his father

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:36.520
<v Speaker 3>that I am somebody, and I think that that was really,

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 3>really profound. Yeah.

0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, before I do my tribute for Reverend Jackson, I

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 1>want to run a clip of my dad on a

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 1>news show just this week where he talked about his

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 1>own experience with Reverend Jesse Jackson.

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 9>We must never surrender.

0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 5>The medical will get better tonight.

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 19>Western Washington and the United States as a whole are

0:58:56.880 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 19>mourning the loss of civil rights icon Jesse Jacks, Kira Resivans,

0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 19>Jack Bill yu Is life at Mount Zion Baptist Church

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 19>in Seattle and Jack. Reverend Jackson made frequent visits to

0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 19>the Pacific Northwest. You spoke to some of the people

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 19>who were right by his side.

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.960
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, And for many of those visits, Cairo Seven's cameras

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 17>were rolling. They usually included a stop right here at

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:22.440
<v Speaker 17>Mountain Zion Baptist Church where he'd preached, plus other stops

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 17>I aimed at mobilizing African Americans or holding the powerful

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 17>to account.

0:59:28.080 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 15>We were OG's, so you know, we've worked on a

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 15>lot of things together.

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:36.400
<v Speaker 17>Eddie Rye knew Jesse Jackson better than most. Rye ran

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:39.640
<v Speaker 17>his campaign for president Washington State in nineteen eighty four,

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 17>one of the many times they worked together over the

0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 17>course of more than half a century of friendship.

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 15>He was a jovial guy. My daughter Angela visited with

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 15>him less than a month ago. He was in Burbo

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 15>at the time.

0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:57.720
<v Speaker 17>Why says the biggest lasting legacy of Jackson's long and

0:59:57.800 --> 1:00:01.200
<v Speaker 17>storied career is the way he transferre formed the participation

1:00:01.280 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 17>of African Americans in the political process, turning them from

1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 17>voters or donors into delegates and advocates.

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:09.960
<v Speaker 15>A lot of people had never thought about really get

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:13.280
<v Speaker 15>intricately involved in the political process until Reverend Jackson ran it.

1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:17.720
<v Speaker 15>And that's something that resonated all across the country.

1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:20.320
<v Speaker 17>But his career didn't end after his two runs for

1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:21.520
<v Speaker 17>president in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>This city really owes a lot to Reverend Jackson, and

1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Reverend Jackson loved this city.

1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:27.959
<v Speaker 3>He loved coming here.

1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:30.920
<v Speaker 17>Nate Miles and Darryl Powell showed Jackson around during a

1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:33.360
<v Speaker 17>visit to Seattle in the twenty tens when he met

1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:37.120
<v Speaker 17>with tech giants like Microsoft to advocate for diversity. Returned

1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:39.840
<v Speaker 17>to the civil rights hub of Mount Zion Baptist Church

1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:42.479
<v Speaker 17>and spoke to students at Rainier Beach High School.

1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:44.840
<v Speaker 16>There's much challenge of them today.

1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:46.960
<v Speaker 3>If you study, you can be somebody.

1:00:47.000 --> 1:00:49.320
<v Speaker 7>And he always had that I am somebody, and we

1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:51.440
<v Speaker 7>writ into the chant that I am somebody.

1:00:51.640 --> 1:00:53.320
<v Speaker 5>They were excited taking pictures.

1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:56.280
<v Speaker 7>It was just very motivating for the students as well

1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:56.920
<v Speaker 7>as the staff.

1:00:57.240 --> 1:00:59.960
<v Speaker 17>Jackson's role in the fight for equality is now a

1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:02.920
<v Speaker 17>but those who knew him say they will never forget

1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:03.840
<v Speaker 17>what he stood for.

1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:07.480
<v Speaker 15>The impact of Reverend Jackson will last forever.

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:10.120
<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 17>The men you just heard from say people would call

1:01:12.560 --> 1:01:15.560
<v Speaker 17>on Jackson for help with all kinds of things. That

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<v Speaker 17>includes pushing for the freedom of a local man who

1:01:18.520 --> 1:01:21.560
<v Speaker 17>was imprisoned in North Korea. Well, hear what his family

1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:24.280
<v Speaker 17>had to say about the reverends passing tonight at six

1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:27.160
<v Speaker 17>live in Seattle. Jack Billy you Cairo seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say that I grew up with a

1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:36.160
<v Speaker 1>picture of Reverend Jackson on the fireplace mantle. There was

1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:40.120
<v Speaker 1>a picture with doctor King and Malcolm X, and right

1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:42.600
<v Speaker 1>next to that was this picture of Reverend And you

1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:48.000
<v Speaker 1>saw that picture on top of somebody's nineteen eighty four

1:01:48.520 --> 1:01:53.040
<v Speaker 1>campaign sign. And my dad worked on his eighty four

1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and eighty eight campaigns. He ran the Washington State campaign

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<v Speaker 1>I think in eighty four, and I cannot remember. There's

1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:03.720
<v Speaker 1>not an early childhood memory I don't have that doesn't

1:02:03.720 --> 1:02:08.200
<v Speaker 1>involve Reverend Jackson's presence either, you know, through something my

1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:10.600
<v Speaker 1>dad is saying, some other protests were about to get

1:02:10.600 --> 1:02:12.680
<v Speaker 1>involved in. I talk a lot about this on my

1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:18.960
<v Speaker 1>solo podcast from Tuesday. But I also came into being

1:02:19.000 --> 1:02:21.880
<v Speaker 1>around Reverend based on the work path that I ended

1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:25.240
<v Speaker 1>up choosing, or the path that chose me. When I

1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:29.840
<v Speaker 1>went to DC after law school, we started an organization

1:02:29.920 --> 1:02:35.040
<v Speaker 1>called Impact, and very quickly Impact became like a partner

1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:36.560
<v Speaker 1>organization with Rainbow Push.

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<v Speaker 2>When Big bro.

1:02:37.560 --> 1:02:39.760
<v Speaker 1>G Flow was there Gary Flowers, and so he did

1:02:39.760 --> 1:02:44.800
<v Speaker 1>a panel at a Rainbow Push convening, and true to form,

1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Reverend Jackson would go in every single panel discussion and

1:02:49.840 --> 1:02:50.520
<v Speaker 1>go to the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm using this story because to Andrew's.

1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Point, I was like, why he always got to do that,

1:02:56.640 --> 1:02:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Like we're in the middle of a program and he

1:02:58.800 --> 1:03:01.880
<v Speaker 1>would go in and he'd say that's something. And what

1:03:01.960 --> 1:03:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember in this moment, I was so offended because

1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:08.960
<v Speaker 1>he came in and he said, Jeff Johnson was moderating

1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:11.080
<v Speaker 1>this conversation. He takes the mic from Jeff and he

1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:14.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, y'all are talking about who's got next? I

1:03:14.000 --> 1:03:16.280
<v Speaker 1>think that literally was the name of our panel discussion.

1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:22.000
<v Speaker 1>And you can't replace a giant with goliaths. David didn't

1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:24.760
<v Speaker 1>just use a slingshot to take him out. He had

1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:26.400
<v Speaker 1>to cut his head off. And I was like, why

1:03:26.440 --> 1:03:28.080
<v Speaker 1>he want us to cut his head off? Like what's

1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:30.920
<v Speaker 1>going on? And I think to this day there are

1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:34.640
<v Speaker 1>aspects about what he said that I don't understand. But

1:03:34.760 --> 1:03:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to me, passing the torch isn't about dishonoring the folks,

1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the giants who come before you. It's about ensuring that

1:03:42.480 --> 1:03:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't kill off a legacy unless you think that

1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:48.360
<v Speaker 1>legacy is not worth living for. And I certainly don't

1:03:48.360 --> 1:03:51.000
<v Speaker 1>think the man who had a theme song run Jesse

1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Run that Lou Rawls and Phillis Hymon and James Cleveland

1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:57.080
<v Speaker 1>did for his eighty four campaign is somebody whose head

1:03:57.160 --> 1:04:00.400
<v Speaker 1>is worth cutting off. Quite the contrary, this is someone

1:04:00.480 --> 1:04:03.040
<v Speaker 1>who when I was the executive director of the Congressional

1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Black Caucus, he was the only non CBC member who

1:04:06.280 --> 1:04:07.720
<v Speaker 1>could come in the meeting and be a.

1:04:07.680 --> 1:04:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Part of the meeting.

1:04:08.440 --> 1:04:12.240
<v Speaker 1>He was a CBC member to us when he did

1:04:12.440 --> 1:04:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Rainbow Push Tech twenty twenty to ensure that the tech

1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:18.800
<v Speaker 1>industry would become more diverse. The CBC without question took

1:04:18.840 --> 1:04:23.280
<v Speaker 1>on doing that same exact initiative on the Hill. And

1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:25.080
<v Speaker 1>then I think the other thing that I would just

1:04:25.120 --> 1:04:29.760
<v Speaker 1>reflect on is Reverend Jackson's calling responses, which are legendary.

1:04:30.160 --> 1:04:32.760
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why his calls and responses are legendary

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<v Speaker 1>is because you would start off with I am somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would do them three words, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>would hit you with a paragraph you couldn't keep up

1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:41.400
<v Speaker 1>with on the other end, like you're.

1:04:41.280 --> 1:04:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Supposed to respond like I can't even remember what she said.

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<v Speaker 1>So he would just he would have these moments that

1:04:47.200 --> 1:04:50.120
<v Speaker 1>would be so funny, and even you know, as he

1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:53.720
<v Speaker 1>started losing his cadence and we couldn't understand him as well,

1:04:53.760 --> 1:04:56.200
<v Speaker 1>he was still making us do call and response, which

1:04:56.240 --> 1:04:58.720
<v Speaker 1>is also funny. I do want to just take a

1:04:58.760 --> 1:05:01.680
<v Speaker 1>moment to send so much lef his family, to his kids,

1:05:01.680 --> 1:05:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to missus Jackson to a staff member, John Mitchell, who

1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:08.760
<v Speaker 1>preceded him in passing to Gary Flowers. So I called

1:05:08.760 --> 1:05:12.560
<v Speaker 1>big Bro g Flow to Butch Wing, who's based in

1:05:12.560 --> 1:05:15.280
<v Speaker 1>the Bay and worked for Reverend for many years. Shelley Davis,

1:05:15.640 --> 1:05:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Lamel mc morris, and Tyrone. Tyrone, I'm sorry I cannot

1:05:18.200 --> 1:05:21.480
<v Speaker 1>think your last name, but no, I love you. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the last thing I'll say is the last time

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him was in the hospital in November.

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to make sure I saw him.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad couldn't go because my mom had just had

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<v Speaker 1>a really bad fall and I had to go for

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<v Speaker 1>a speech. So I went to see him, and Reverend

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<v Speaker 1>was squeezing hands when he couldn't speak. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a moment where he really felt like I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>know my marching orders. He couldn't get them out in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that I could understand, but I told him

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<v Speaker 1>when he was ready to talk, that he could call me,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, no matter what the marching orders were, that

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<v Speaker 1>I would fulfill them. I made sure I called Congressoman

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<v Speaker 1>Water so he could talk to her and hear her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I called my dad, who decided to recite back

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<v Speaker 1>to him his bio as if he hadn't lived out

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<v Speaker 1>that story. But I will tell you that I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>clear about my marching orders. I played them on the

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<v Speaker 1>show on Tuesday in nineteen seventy two, Reverend told us

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<v Speaker 1>that it was nation time, and as we go through

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<v Speaker 1>these very harrowing times, my biggest regret for him is

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't see us turn the corner in a

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<v Speaker 1>very ugly moment in our history. But I know that

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<v Speaker 1>our marching orders right now is that it's nation time

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to build, and we have to build together.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to do that with us. People see him

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<v Speaker 1>as a great unifier, and he was. But before he

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<v Speaker 1>was a great unifier, he ensured that our foundation as black.

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<v Speaker 2>People was strong.

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<v Speaker 1>And so with that, I do want to just take

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<v Speaker 1>a moment to correct the record. Donald Trump posted on

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<v Speaker 1>truth Social about Reverend Jackson. He was writing saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he was an extraordinary man. We can put that post stup,

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<v Speaker 1>nick and I won't read all of this. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>he chose to focus on a rift between Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesse Jackson that Bakari's already addressed today. He lied

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<v Speaker 1>about the long term funding for HBCUs that he claimed

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<v Speaker 1>to give, about the criminal justice reform that he's taken

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<v Speaker 1>credit for, about giving as if he's ever supported reparation

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<v Speaker 1>space to Reverend Jackson for Rainbow Coalition. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>right in saying that he was a great man, a

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<v Speaker 1>good man with lots of personality, grit, street smart. Seems

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<v Speaker 1>a little racist, but we won't belabor the point. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it is worth hearing from Reverend Jackson his

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<v Speaker 1>own words about what he had to say about Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 16>That's what well, I wasn't see us in this year.

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<v Speaker 16>He was our collective go to defeat Donald Trump. Trump

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<v Speaker 16>represents something dangers to America, using the presensor for personal gain.

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<v Speaker 16>Unto saying the modern claws and our constution playing on

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<v Speaker 16>racial fears in Africa, and the asshole is stands far.

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<v Speaker 16>It's an American judge incapable of being judicious.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 16>The Charlottesville CISTUS where he had the white supremacist Marge

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<v Speaker 16>particulate as Chown's and Jews uh bend and Muslims. It

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<v Speaker 16>does some awful stuff to America, and we cannot afford

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<v Speaker 16>that we're more I stayed in the world. I say

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<v Speaker 16>it from the Seven Countries. Well, I say it from

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<v Speaker 16>our neighbors in Canada and Mexico. We deserve better leadership

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<v Speaker 16>in this. I want to see Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>Defeated Answeerlau, I love you. That clip just reminded me.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're wrong. I think he is. He did

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<v Speaker 5>live to experience some of the change. Probably what I

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<v Speaker 5>think is going to be at the start of this

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<v Speaker 5>of this shift to reclaim our country hole, and that

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<v Speaker 5>is that it wasn't a military that drove this disastrous

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<v Speaker 5>administration out of Minnesota. Uh not even the courts didn't

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<v Speaker 5>do it. Not a senator, not a congress, not a

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<v Speaker 5>House speaker or Democratic leader. People. And this was so

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<v Speaker 5>I think people with the evolution of time and technology,

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<v Speaker 5>you think because you posted your objection on Facebook or

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<v Speaker 5>Twitter or or x or or or truth or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>that you've done your activism. And what what what? What

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<v Speaker 5>rev understood so importantly, so critically, is that bodies in

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<v Speaker 5>the streets, people in physical form, not in force, not

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<v Speaker 5>not not not not a force of of of of

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<v Speaker 5>of of of anything other than their bodies being there.

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<v Speaker 5>And if he didn't do anything else, he taught us

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<v Speaker 5>to put down the phone, put down to this, bring

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<v Speaker 5>your body to this fight, get on the streets, walk, march,

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<v Speaker 5>sit ins, sleep in. And you know, people may call

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<v Speaker 5>it old fashioned, they may think that that's just not

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<v Speaker 5>how it's going to work anymore. Then let's just look

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<v Speaker 5>to the example. The people coming to the streets are

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<v Speaker 5>what got ice and a corrupt government out of their state.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that that's what's going to save us

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<v Speaker 5>every time. And that lesson again was talked to him.

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<v Speaker 5>He taught it to us, and we got to keep

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<v Speaker 5>teaching it, so on and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's the point of the show where we get

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<v Speaker 1>to our cause to action.

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<v Speaker 9>Who cares about truth when the last morning seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It, There's no better way for us to transition to

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<v Speaker 1>that from one of the greatest action takers of our

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<v Speaker 1>time working on behalf of the people.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll yield to whomever wants to go first.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought that was set up a repay.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, my Reverend Degree ain't coming to mail yet.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted and right now answer, but I wanted en

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<v Speaker 4>route to drop one of a seed that I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want missed in the legacy of what Bacari shared about

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<v Speaker 4>Revend Jackson's dad, I wanted to add what is often

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<v Speaker 4>ignored in history is Reverend Jackson was introduced to doctor

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<v Speaker 4>King through doctor Samuel DeWitt Proctor, who was his college

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<v Speaker 4>professor so it was an HBCU instructor sent a letter

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<v Speaker 4>to doctor King that says, I have a young man

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<v Speaker 4>who's a student who needs to study under you. Had

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<v Speaker 4>that HBCU professor not seeing something in him and connected

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<v Speaker 4>him to the most seminal voice of the time, then

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the outcome would have been. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I wanted to give a shout out to HBCUs

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<v Speaker 4>and HBCU professors who are really pulling out the best

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<v Speaker 4>in our students. I think it's serendipitous that we're having

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<v Speaker 4>this conversation en route to the midterm elections, and so

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<v Speaker 4>Megah Evers gave us the blueprint voter education, voter registration,

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<v Speaker 4>get out the vote. There is so much on the line,

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<v Speaker 4>There is so much at stake, and I know all

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<v Speaker 4>of us hear it in our sleep. Your vote is

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<v Speaker 4>your voice, and so ask that you would please become

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<v Speaker 4>involved in get engaged. I would say from the Black

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<v Speaker 4>Church lens, I hope that the Black Church will take

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<v Speaker 4>a page from white evangelicals, and the page that we

1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:37.760
<v Speaker 4>should take from white evangelicals is find out what are

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<v Speaker 4>our principles in our policies and then find the personality

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of times in the black culture, we look

1:12:45.680 --> 1:12:50.320
<v Speaker 4>for a personality without having what are our policies? There

1:12:50.400 --> 1:12:53.720
<v Speaker 4>is so much on the line this election cycle that

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to find out what are our policies, what

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<v Speaker 4>is the ask, and then do the drive behind that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>What I was going to what I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>say is, you know down south we have this saying

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<v Speaker 3>and sometimes Rev when I speak around the country, around

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<v Speaker 3>the world, you know how you say things sometimes and

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<v Speaker 3>you expect the response from the audience and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>crickets response. Yeah, like dog on that I'm in the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong in the wrong part of the country for this,

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<v Speaker 3>but we are. We say, give give people their flowers

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<v Speaker 3>while they're living, you know. We follow that up with

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<v Speaker 3>an a man and the crowd usually says amen, right, and uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Reverend Jackson's death shows us something that

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<v Speaker 3>we don't necessarily want to come to grips with, which

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<v Speaker 3>is that our heroes are dying and so right now,

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<v Speaker 3>while we still have the Jim Clyburns, the Maxine Waters

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<v Speaker 3>of the world, while we have a lot of these

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<v Speaker 3>bishops and ministers and bankers and people who come from

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<v Speaker 3>a generation that have seen so much and toiled in

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<v Speaker 3>the proverbial vineyard. It's necessary we give people their flowers

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<v Speaker 3>while they're living. And also if we're younger than they are,

1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:10.040
<v Speaker 3>like Angela Rai and her dad, make sure we're writing

1:14:10.360 --> 1:14:14.280
<v Speaker 3>for them and getting their stories and spending time with them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm doing the same thing with Cleeve. It's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to try to get them to write, but those things

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<v Speaker 3>are so necessary. And today in particular, I know we're

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<v Speaker 3>not supposed to necessarily give a date or a time,

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<v Speaker 3>but on Wednesday, February eighteenth is Willie Rix's birthday. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many of you all know Willie Rix. Mukasa.

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<v Speaker 3>Mukasa used to walk through the campus of Morehouse all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. But Mukassa was a young member of Snick

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<v Speaker 3>and he loved Loved Love Jesse, and he loved Doctor

1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:54.519
<v Speaker 3>King and he used to get on people's nerves all

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<v Speaker 3>the time in the movement, and Doctor King ended up.

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<v Speaker 3>He would always give Mukassa his old clothes and so

1:15:02.880 --> 1:15:05.280
<v Speaker 3>he would always have these suits and dress shoes. They

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<v Speaker 3>were a little too big for him, but he was

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<v Speaker 3>one of the smaller members. There's a picture of my

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<v Speaker 3>dad in Mucassa and Harry Belafonte and Sidney Pardier at

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<v Speaker 3>Rikers Island after they got arrested for protesting the South

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<v Speaker 3>African Embassy in New York and Mucassa's birthdays today. One

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<v Speaker 3>of his claim the fame, although it gets stolen from

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<v Speaker 3>him throughout history, is that he was with Stokely Carmichael

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<v Speaker 3>in Mississippi when they came up with the phrase black power.

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<v Speaker 3>And for them, black power was not saying that we

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<v Speaker 3>were going to throw cocktails through the windows of white folk,

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<v Speaker 3>but black power for them, and I've heard Reverend Bryant

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this all the time, was black economic power,

1:15:46.560 --> 1:15:49.840
<v Speaker 3>it was black political power. Black power for them meant

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<v Speaker 3>that we had a position of self fulfillment. And so

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<v Speaker 3>happy birthday to Willie Rix, also known as Mucassa, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the little known members of the movement. But you

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<v Speaker 3>are a big part of the Seller's family and Seller's household,

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<v Speaker 3>and you are a big part of our history.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'll ask Nick if he could throw up those

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<v Speaker 5>images of Reverend Jackson with the students with black power

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<v Speaker 5>held up and maybe him doing a little teaching. But

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<v Speaker 5>I want to make that my CTA, which is which

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<v Speaker 5>is to say that, you know, we oftentimes pass judgment

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<v Speaker 5>on people and and come up in our own heads

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<v Speaker 5>with our own stories that we tell ourselves about the people.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm seeking very specifically about leaders. This was the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>This was again Philip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>These are the dream Defenders and the early orientation of

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<v Speaker 5>that group. This is at the thirty one days of

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<v Speaker 5>sleeping on the coal marble floors of the Florida Capital

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<v Speaker 5>and emerging being walked out of that building with with

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<v Speaker 5>with with rev and Jesse Jackson. But when he said, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>I am somebody, I don't know that I fully encompassed.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't. I didn't connect the the truth of that

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<v Speaker 5>mantra as I was repeating it right after him. But

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<v Speaker 5>that's a it is a powerful declaration. It's a powerful

1:17:24.960 --> 1:17:32.040
<v Speaker 5>self declaration. It's a powerful community declaration. And he said

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<v Speaker 5>it the way he said it because he felt it

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<v Speaker 5>with his whole heart, with his whole being, and he

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<v Speaker 5>was ministering as much to himself as he was to

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<v Speaker 5>to those who were on the listening side. I just

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<v Speaker 5>asked us to think, will you know, be real thoughtful

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<v Speaker 5>about the words that we speak if we want them

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<v Speaker 5>to have a meaning, But that phrase has taken on

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<v Speaker 5>new resonance for me today as we talked about the Rev.

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<v Speaker 5>I am somebody. It is my self declar but it's

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<v Speaker 5>also a declaration for our community and the people who

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<v Speaker 5>we love and care about, especially in this time. We're

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<v Speaker 5>being pushed left and right and the compass isn't clear.

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<v Speaker 5>But we are somebody, and I think that helps to

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<v Speaker 5>make the future and what we have to do much clearer.

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<v Speaker 1>I invite folks to go back and listen to Reverend

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson's nineteen seventy two Nation Time speech from the National

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<v Speaker 1>Black Political Convention. Why I think that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out where we are as a people, strengthen our

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<v Speaker 1>foundation to ensure that we do progress, that we do

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<v Speaker 1>move forward, that we do embody the fullness of our power.

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<v Speaker 2>I am somebodyness.

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<v Speaker 1>And once you do that, I asked that you tap

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<v Speaker 1>back in with our dear brother, Reverend Doctor Jamal Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a target boycott going on. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>remember our power even in moments like these. The discipline

1:18:54.560 --> 1:18:57.719
<v Speaker 1>that Reverend exercised in so many movements are why doors

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<v Speaker 1>got opened for black business executiatives, blackboard members, black vendors

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<v Speaker 1>and contractors, all of that, and we cannot ensure our

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<v Speaker 1>progress in this country, especially in these times, without that

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<v Speaker 1>type of extraordinary discipline.

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<v Speaker 2>So I invite you all to do exactly that. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you all so.

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<v Speaker 5>Much, Thank you Bishop for coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, We're so very grateful for you. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to say in closing, thank you all for

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<v Speaker 4>having me. Glad to be a part of the family reunion.

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<v Speaker 4>And strategically I wanted you to know what this day

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<v Speaker 4>means to me because this marks the three hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>eighty one days, the same amount as the Montgomery bus boycott.

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<v Speaker 4>So to be able to come and to reflect on

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<v Speaker 4>repend Jackson, and to do it on homeland, I can't

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<v Speaker 4>think of a better place.

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<v Speaker 10>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that well. Please keep us in and keep

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<v Speaker 3>us in your prayers.

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<v Speaker 4>Please welcome, no, thank you, We'll do home.

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<v Speaker 2>As always.

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<v Speaker 1>sellers with Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant. Welcome home, y'all. There

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<v Speaker 1>are two hundred and sixty three days until midterm elections.

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<v Speaker 1>Please remember, I am somebody, really on the stop.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 20>I am some box.

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<v Speaker 7>Some bots may be cool, but I am some bots.

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<v Speaker 7>I may be young, but I am some box. I

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<v Speaker 7>may be on we fact, but I am somebodys. I

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<v Speaker 7>may be small, but I am somebodies.

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<v Speaker 4>I may make a mistake, but.

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<v Speaker 7>I am somebody's. My clothes are different, my face is different,

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<v Speaker 7>my hair is different.

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<v Speaker 20>But I am somebody. I am black, brown, white. I

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<v Speaker 20>speak a different language. But I must be respected, protected,

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<v Speaker 20>never rejected. I am God's child. I am somebody.

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