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Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: This is episode one hundred and nineteen of Native lampod

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Speaker 1: where we give you our breakdown of all.

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Speaker 2: Things politics and culture.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Angela Rye, joined by my co host

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Speaker 1: Andrew Gilliman Bacari Sellers, as well as our dear brother.

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Speaker 2: And guest ho host for this week, the Reverend doctor Jamal.

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Speaker 1: I bought the dress, Bryant.

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Speaker 2: I'll be saying that for no reason.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 2: I just want you to know I bought the dress

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Speaker 2: for no reason.

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Speaker 4: It haunts me to this.

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Speaker 3: Get out of here.

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Speaker 5: Welcome this shit, Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Welcome, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you'll got dress because.

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Speaker 2: I told carry I'm taking a dress. Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad y'all got dressed up. It's mine for the right,

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Speaker 3: for the right. Reverend the come on the show. I

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Speaker 3: put on my best usher board outfit. I got my shirt.

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Speaker 4: You look like a d K job.

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Speaker 5: Hell the Stewart, it's here in the Stewart corn.

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Speaker 1: He needs to be an elder as old as the ex,

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Speaker 1: as old as the ex. We're so happy to have you,

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Speaker 1: and we are thrilled to jump right into the show.

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Speaker 1: We added a new segment, Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant called

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Speaker 1: situational Awareness. Yes for your situational awareness, and it's always

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Speaker 1: because we have news you can use.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna jump right into.

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Speaker 1: In January, the North Carolina Board of Elections advanced voter

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Speaker 1: suppression causes by removing three polling sites on three college campuses,

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Speaker 1: Western Carolina University, North Carolina and T and the UNC Greensboro.

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Speaker 1: Last week, a judge ruled against student plaintiffs, refusing to

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Speaker 1: allow the schools to retain the early voting sites, and

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Speaker 1: some students responded in kind, let's roll the clip.

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Speaker 5: You profiled us, you profiled us, you targeted us. You

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Speaker 5: took away our accessibility to vote.

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Speaker 4: You took away our accessibility to vote.

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Speaker 6: You took away our accessibility to vote.

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Speaker 5: All the benefit. Virginia Fox, Virginia Fox.

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Speaker 6: But you will see us and you will feel us.

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Speaker 4: But you will see us, and you will feel.

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Speaker 5: Us, and you will feel us.

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Speaker 7: I'm kyer Creek Moore and I'm running for the US

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Speaker 7: House in North Carolina's fifth Congression.

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Speaker 3: Editar join the.

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Speaker 1: Movement, Shatay said, not only take our bowling site. But

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Speaker 1: we gonna run somebody for office against you. I love

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Speaker 1: to see it. WHI y'all got?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's somebody who Yeah, somebody who ran when

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Speaker 3: they were twenty one years old. I'm all four. And

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Speaker 3: people are afraid of young people. Every college campus I

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Speaker 3: go to, I ask one question of everybody when I speak,

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Speaker 3: I say, is there a polling site on your campus?

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Speaker 3: And most elected officials are deathly afraid of having young

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Speaker 3: people have polling sites on their campus because they know

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Speaker 3: they're going to show up and show out. And so

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Speaker 3: Kyle Creek Moore, let me know when we knocking on

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Speaker 3: doors what we need to do, brother, because I appreciate

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Speaker 3: your energy, and I appreciate the way that you are

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Speaker 3: mobilizing young people. In the mind frame of another North

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Speaker 3: Carolina Anti State University grad, none other than Jesse Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Love it, love it, Okay, We're gonna move right along.

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Speaker 1: Then to last week, In a two hundred eighteen, two

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen roll called vote, the United States House

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Speaker 1: of Representatives passed the Save Act for a second time.

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Speaker 1: The bill, which requires ID and proof of citizenship and

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Speaker 1: proof of citizenship, let's be clear, now makes its way

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Speaker 1: to the Senate, despite the fact that it is already

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Speaker 1: illegal for non citizens to vote. According to the League

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Speaker 1: of Women Voters, compared to white US citizens, citizens of

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Speaker 1: color are three times more likely to lack documents such

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Speaker 1: or face difficulties accessing them. For example, while approximately half

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Speaker 1: of all American adults possess a passport, two thirds of

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Speaker 1: black Americans do not. Senator Chris Murphy had something to

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Speaker 2: Let's roll it.

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Speaker 8: So Republicans have this bill to Save Act. It just

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Speaker 8: the Senate, and it stands for one thing. They're trying

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Speaker 8: to stop your right to vote. Republicans believe that Donald

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Speaker 8: our elections in this country are wildly clean. There are

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Speaker 8: very few, if any, actual cases of fraud in most elections,

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Speaker 8: and when you find them, it's on the margins, one

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Speaker 8: But Republicans want you to want you to believe that

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Speaker 9: It isn't.

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Speaker 8: But what they really want to do is just stop

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Speaker 8: you from voting. So they're going to use this claim

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Speaker 8: that there's fraud in our elections to pass the Save Act,

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Speaker 8: which will make it way harder for you to vote.

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Speaker 8: One of the things the Save Act does is to

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Speaker 8: require your birth certificate to have your existing name on it. Well,

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Speaker 8: for a lot of married women, your birth certificate right

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Speaker 8: doesn't have have your married name, and so millions of

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Speaker 8: women in this country are basically disqualified from voting. It

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Speaker 8: requires you to produce when you register a birth certificate

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Speaker 8: or a passport. We don't do that now, and that's

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Speaker 8: how millions of Americans registered to vote online. But now

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Speaker 8: online registration may be completely eliminated. The bill requires states

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Speaker 8: every thirty days to purge their voter files of people,

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Speaker 8: for instance, who haven't voted in a while. So if

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Speaker 8: you're just busy and you haven't voted in the last

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Speaker 8: couple elections, you might show up to vote in the

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Speaker 8: next presidential election. And your name's gone because what they're

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Speaker 8: trying to do is just take you off the rolls.

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Speaker 8: This is absurd. It's all built on a lie that

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Speaker 8: elections are being stolen by some cabal of Democrats and

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Speaker 8: Nicholas Maduro and George Soros and whoever else. But it's

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Speaker 8: really all about just trying to stop you from being

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Speaker 8: able to vote. That's why we have to stop the

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Speaker 8: Save Act in the United States Senate. That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: What do y'all have on that one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're one step away from how many

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Speaker 4: bubbles are in a soap bar, that we're making the

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Speaker 4: electric slide backwards. And I think it's apropos that you

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Speaker 4: what should not be discounted was the numbers of people

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Speaker 4: It pulled in a hailstorm of black elected officials around

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Speaker 4: I want to hinge a wagon on the first clip

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Speaker 4: is we spend a lot of energy around voter registration

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I couldn't agree with you more regudd

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Speaker 5: the first clip training up and also just helping people

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Speaker 5: get in touch with their ideological belief system, like what

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Speaker 5: do we stand for? What are we trying to do?

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Speaker 5: What do we want to have changed by way of

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Speaker 5: as a result of this save Act is really it's

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Speaker 5: not a problem in search of a solution. It's a

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Speaker 5: solution in search of a problem. It'd be one thing

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Speaker 5: if we had tens of thousands, even thousands of people

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Speaker 5: that the vote. That that a person has voted illegally

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Speaker 5: not significant numbers. So we're talking about a few hundred

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Speaker 5: were later determined to have been of votes cast that

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Speaker 5: should not have been cast, and in truth, not enough

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Speaker 5: many women because women oftentimes when married changed their last name,

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Speaker 5: all of these different documents. And I don't know about y'all,

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Speaker 5: Not one of them had the same middle name, and

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Speaker 5: Can you just imagine the burden that we are putting

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Speaker 5: a problem. Yeah, So it's a shame, and it's a sham.

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Speaker 5: By the way, it's a sham, and it's an intention

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of sham, so is the Secretary of the

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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security. I know you had something for her,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Gillum.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean we got a clip of her, y'all.

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Speaker 5: You probably may have seen her given commentary about what

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Speaker 5: she believes her expanded role as Homeland Security Secretary and

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Speaker 10: Elections is another one of those critical infrastructure responsibilities that

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Speaker 10: I have as well, and I would say that many

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Speaker 10: people believe that it may be one of the most

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Speaker 10: that we've been proactive to make sure that we have

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Speaker 10: the right people voting, electing the right leaders to lead

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Speaker 5: Y'all, you know that's loaded, right, So I should let

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Speaker 5: y'all go on about the right people voting right, get

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Speaker 5: the right people voting to elect the right people. That's

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Speaker 5: the Homeland Security secretary who believes that she has been

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Speaker 5: So here's the fact check. She has not been invested

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Speaker 5: Homeland Security. The Secretary is responsible for what is called

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Speaker 5: the continuity of government. Should there be some cataclysmic event

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Speaker 5: law to have a continuity of government. What would happen

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Speaker 2: It's the twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Hundred Olympians who allegedly went through ten thousand condoms and

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Speaker 2: Happy that sound like that?

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Speaker 3: Sound like graves? Hall?

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Speaker 11: What really goes down in the Olympic village. Well, obviously

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Speaker 4: Eight, three thousand.

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Speaker 2: They provided them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, at least the athletes give free health care.

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Speaker 5: So these people have been overachieving all their life. Why

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Speaker 1: It sound like they still. He then sold thirty thousand

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Speaker 4: Versuon, I wish somebody would get First of all, I've

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Speaker 1: He said, if I ain't got nothing else to take you,

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Speaker 5: And he said they were in Korean.

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Speaker 1: They might try to erase our history, but we make

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Speaker 12: Finally, the doctor is behind a different type of medical breakthrough.

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Speaker 6: My parents are so proud. I am the first physician

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Speaker 12: For doctor Lawrence Brown, medicine is more than science. It's service.

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Speaker 6: That's what's important to me. Equity has to remain at

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Speaker 12: Doctor Zachary Numa is a result of service that was

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Speaker 12: For doctor E. Fae Sciombo, history isn't just remembered here,

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Speaker 14: The best part is that I get to save lives

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Speaker 14: Realize that your dream and capacity can only be limited

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Speaker 2: I love it, proud of them any reflection, y'all.

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Speaker 5: I would just say, for those who want to kick

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Speaker 5: But just think again, when we want to push people

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to challenge a real re evaluation for the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely well.

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Speaker 1: In addition to these black folks making black history, our

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Speaker 2: History as well.

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Speaker 13: with you. She'll tease and have banter back and forth

442
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 13: with you. When she's respected, she'll be emotionally open with

443
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 13: you and begin to share her fears, her vulnerabilities, and

444
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 13: her dreams. She'll be nurturing and affirming. Her nonverbal attributes

445
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 13: will show in her body language that it feels good

446
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 13: to be around you. Can I tell you that a

447
00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 13: woman who is safe speaks differently, She moves differently, she

448
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 13: engages differently. Now there is another style that she may

449
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 13: have when she feels unsafe or indifferent. My lord, She's

450
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 13: gonna be direct and short guarded, emotionally flat at times, cold,

451
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 13: possibly withdrawing access from you. She might cold switch.

452
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Speaker 5: A little bit.

453
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Speaker 13: That means you're gonna get corporate Carrie, and not the

454
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Speaker 13: carry you know at home.

455
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 5: Corporate.

456
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Speaker 13: Hello, how are you? What is it that I can

457
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 13: assist you with today? Did you receive the email that

458
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 13: I see you? My hours are between nine and five.

459
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 13: Would like to contact me? You can go through my assistant.

460
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 13: She will be more than happy to help you. Y'all

461
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 13: know what I'm talking about. She will be dismissive and uninterested.

462
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 13: Don't think you're gonna get no band to no plan around,

463
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 13: no smiles on our faces, because when we feel unsafe,

464
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 13: we close off. We leave the text on red.

465
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Speaker 3: She was just staring at you right now.

466
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 15: Oh lord.

467
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Speaker 4: There were times during the Super Bowl when bad Bunny

468
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: looked in the camera but didn't say anything. I need

469
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: you to hear this. The man in your life wants

470
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Speaker 4: you to hear this.

471
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Speaker 3: Women talk to you.

472
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Speaker 5: Gonna have to.

473
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Speaker 4: High fire me in the spirit. Silence does not mean disconnection.

474
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Speaker 4: Women speak on average sixteen thousand words a day. Brothers,

475
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Speaker 4: just blink at me twice. I know you can't say

476
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: amen right now. Just meet me in the hallway. I

477
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Speaker 4: got you. Women speak sixteen thousand words a day and

478
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 4: men only speak seven thousand words a day. So many

479
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 4: times men hear this, think through reflection and not through articulation. Wives,

480
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Speaker 4: I got to ask you a question. Think for a moment.

481
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Speaker 4: Why it is only men who require a man cave.

482
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Speaker 4: There's no such thing as a woman cave.

483
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Speaker 3: Men.

484
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Speaker 4: When we hear what you are saying, we think, how

485
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 4: do we solve it? And many times you are sharing

486
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Speaker 4: when we are looking to solving.

487
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Speaker 1: Boy, I want to hear this type of feedback you

488
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Speaker 1: are going. I was like, I want to go back

489
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Speaker 1: and hear the whole thing. I have not yet, and

490
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Speaker 1: I really want to.

491
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Speaker 4: No. My parents years ago. My mother transitioned last year,

492
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 4: but years ago, my parents used to preach together in

493
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Speaker 4: their church in Baltimore. This is over twenty five years ago.

494
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Speaker 4: So I said, carry, let's try it. This was our

495
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 4: first time ever doing anything in that realm at all.

496
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Speaker 4: But what I really want you to see, Ange is

497
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Speaker 4: after the sermon, we renewed the vowels of one hundred

498
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Speaker 4: and fifty married couples. So to see one hundred and

499
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 4: fifty black couples on one stage, what was amazing, Andrew.

500
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: What was crazy is we wanted to honor the couple

501
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: that had been married the longest. They had been fifty

502
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Speaker 4: seven years married. And then we said, who's been married

503
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Speaker 4: the shortest amount of time. It was a couple that

504
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: was four months. So we said, we're going to give

505
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Speaker 4: a gift to the couple who's been married the shortest

506
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Speaker 4: amount of time to go to dinner with the couple

507
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Speaker 4: that's been married the longest, so that they can them

508
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 4: and mentor on and give them the tools. So my

509
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: staff hands me a card. Okay, the couple that's been married.

510
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Speaker 4: To show this some abount of time is Lisa and Michael,

511
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: said Lisa and Michael. Because it's one hundred and fifty

512
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Speaker 4: couples out here. Lisa and Michael, y'all come up. We

513
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Speaker 4: want to give you this gift certificate and meet the

514
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: oldest couple. Okay, the couple that have been married for

515
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 4: four months was sixty years old. Because the groop, the

516
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 4: group was on a cane.

517
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: We had to help you get up.

518
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: When you're talking about love for the second time and

519
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Speaker 4: what we had in our path.

520
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Speaker 16: Man.

521
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: But to answer your question, it was it was absolutely

522
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: Love comes in so many different shapes and sizes forms. Listen,

523
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: don't let love just happened for the twenty years, right,

524
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: letting Nana get some. Letting Nana get some.

525
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Speaker 1: Oh Lord, first of all, my brother she so let

526
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: me find out he pop pop. But yeah, that is incredible.

527
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Speaker 17: It was.

528
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Speaker 2: It was such a good sermon.

529
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Speaker 1: And I think the way that the clips because again, y'all,

530
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go back and watch it. I urge

531
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Speaker 1: our listeners to go and watch it and listen to

532
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: it as well. But I think what's so remarkable about

533
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: it is, you know, with you and with Carrie, I

534
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: love you, Guys's love. I just sent a text the

535
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: other day. I sent Carrie's clip to Mignon and Kim

536
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: and I literally said that. I said, she is the

537
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: perfect mate for Jamal, Like we could not have designed

538
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: a better person.

539
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: God knew exactly what God was doing.

540
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Speaker 1: So I just I want to shout out our dear sister,

541
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Speaker 1: especially because there's so many times where she's come under

542
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: attack for being different, for showing up in ways that

543
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: they don't see a traditional first lady or you know,

544
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: a pastor who's a woman, And I just love that

545
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: she's like, I am going to define myself for myself

546
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: and y'all just gonna have to.

547
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: Wait and see. That doesn't mean that it's any less painful.

548
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: So I applied you to brother for being ride or

549
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: Di said a wheels fall off and saying I bought

550
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: the dress and everything else you got to say in between.

551
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: To make sure that she knows she's protected.

552
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: And you know, why are you here? Let me just

553
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: steal some advice from you while we got you. Let

554
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: me ask you a personal question. Just act like Andrew

555
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 3: and Angela aren't here, But what are some of the

556
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: tools that you use in your marriage. Whenever moments of

557
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: conflict arise with someone who is strong and independent and

558
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: someone you love with your whole heart, but equally yoked,

559
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: how do you avoid spiraling and making sure that your

560
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: lines of communication remain open.

561
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say just to Bakari and Andrew as you

562
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: can is drop the whole controversy with the dress really

563
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: awakened something in me Boocard that I had adjusted to

564
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: disc function. I was so used to being persecuted that

565
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 4: I became nun so it didn't bother me what blog

566
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: said or what the Internet had to say, or what

567
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: was the crazy comments, because I'm used to people coming sideways,

568
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: But seeing my wife's humanity in it, I realized that

569
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: I had compartmentalized. And because all of us, Bacary, Angela, Andrew,

570
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: we have grown up in public space one way or another.

571
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 4: You can become so numb to it or adjusted to

572
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: it that you almost have to parent your partner. You

573
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: know you holding it. It's gonna be okay, right, this

574
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: will be at the next news cycle. Just give it

575
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: a couple of days. Don't respond, because we've been in it,

576
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: and if not ourselves, the people who have mentored us

577
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: we have had to watch them go through it and

578
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 4: so becaar. It tapped into my humanity that it's okay

579
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: to be superman. But the reality is all of us

580
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: are clock can and so rather than being dismissive, you

581
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: have to identify with the pain. Not I tell you

582
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: it's okay, but to say, you know what, this hurts

583
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: me too, and it hurts me that it hurts you.

584
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: But minimizing it is only going to exacerbate it, because

585
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 4: it's gonna make them question why am I hurt? Why

586
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: am I angry? And when we're in this public space,

587
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: people forget that you're human, They forget that you actually

588
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: have feelings. And so we have gone into we pray

589
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 4: together every day as opposed to praying together when we're

590
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: in crisis. So when you pray together every day, it

591
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: creates a different kind of rhythm so that it doesn't

592
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: become alien and it's not in case of emergency break glass.

593
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: My mother used to say something to me years ago,

594
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Speaker 4: and I give this to all the singles who are watching.

595
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: Prayer is more intimate than sex. That people will sleep

596
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Speaker 4: with you who would never pray with you. That's a fact.

597
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: You don't you know? Some of their prayers don't make

598
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: it through the roof, so you can't listen.

599
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can always tell us, I would say, identifying

600
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: it and then taking away your tough skin, because it

601
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: can become an enabler. And you got to really get

602
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: in touch at your humanity and a lot of times

603
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: because we feel it through our kids, or we feel

604
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: through our spouse, and so being more in tune to

605
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: your humanity and not just the black button.

606
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to take some time that was on my heart.

607
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Speaker 5: So I just had to ask, Yeah, well you are

608
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Speaker 5: I mean you the descermine y'all hit y'all, y'all hit

609
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Speaker 5: on it. I mean y'all been in anybody's households. It

610
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: felt like you you observed enough of what happens in marriages,

611
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 5: and obviously your life experience has lent a lot to it.

612
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: But blessing to your parishioners and obviously for you all's

613
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Speaker 5: willingness to make sure that you're sharing your messages outside

614
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: of the edifice, outside of the building itself, so that

615
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: you know, unchurched people and otherwise are able to access

616
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 5: it and be drawn closer quite frankly to Christ, because

617
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: that's what this is all is that's what this is

618
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 5: all for. That it brings us closer uh and and

619
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 5: deeper into our faith. And I'll just say you you

620
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 5: were running down my street, up the block through the

621
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Speaker 5: front door on this idea of the numbing that you

622
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Speaker 5: do with regard to criticism, to the point that you

623
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Speaker 5: lessen it so much that when others are going through it,

624
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 5: your spouse, you're like, why can't you snap back? It's

625
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 5: just like, you know, keep it moving, like get with

626
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 5: it where that is what it is, move on and

627
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 5: it'll be over and Jay during you know. So the

628
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Speaker 5: zenith of crisis that we were in, a bought this

629
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Speaker 5: T shirt that said, what you don't understand about me,

630
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 5: what you need to understand about me is I'm not

631
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 5: you and the rest will make sense. And it, like spoke,

632
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 5: she had reached out a place where it was like, Okay,

633
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 5: what works for you is and what work for me,

634
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 5: and what work for me may not work for you,

635
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 5: but you just need to understand that we're not gonna

636
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 5: see these things the same way. I have my own

637
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 5: way of seeing it. And now the rest of all

638
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 5: my decisions will make sense to you that they're not yours,

639
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 5: their mine.

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00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: And let me add because I don't want to be

641
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: presumptuous of everybody knowing my story. It is the second

642
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: marriage for both care and myself. I was divorced for

643
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 4: ten years. Carry was divorced for nine years, and Nelson

644
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: Mandela said, it is not a loss, it's a lesson.

645
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: That's right, and so you should learn something from your

646
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 4: previous relationships. Sometimes the lesson is you learn what not

647
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 4: to do, and you learn that it's not always the

648
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: other person, but what is the brokenness in you that

649
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: has to be address right?

650
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: That's right, well on that there is a broke, some

651
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: brokenness in our community. This week we lost the giant

652
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: nobody knows.

653
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 2: We want to pay tribute to that giant right now.

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Speaker 9: At three o'clock on Thanksgiving Day, we couldn't eat turkey

655
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Speaker 9: because Mama must to paying somebody else's turkey. At three

656
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 9: o'clock we had to play football if you have detained ourselves.

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Speaker 9: And then around six o'clock she would get off the

658
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Speaker 9: After this the bus and we would bring up the

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Speaker 9: leftover us and eat out turkey leftover us the caucus

660
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Speaker 9: the Cranberrys around eight o'clock at night. I really do

661
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 9: understand every one of these funny labels they put on you.

662
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 9: Those of you were watching this broadcast at night in

663
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 9: the projects on the corners, I understand. Call you out cast,

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Speaker 9: low down. You can't make it. You're nothing. You're from nobody,

665
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 9: sub class on the class. When you see Jesse Jackson,

666
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 9: when my name goes in nomination, your name goes in nomination.

667
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 9: I was born in the slum, for the slum was

668
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 9: not born in me, and it wasn't going in you.

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Speaker 9: And you can make it wherever you are tonight. You

670
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 9: can make it. Hould your head high, stick your chest out,

671
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 9: you can make it. It gets dark sometimes, but the

672
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 9: morning comes. Don't you surrender suffering, grief, character, character, priests,

673
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 9: faith In the end, faith will not the support. You

674
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 9: must not surrender. You may or may not get that,

675
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 9: but just know that you are qualified. When you hold

676
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 9: on and hold out. We must never surrender. America will

677
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Speaker 9: get better and better. Keep hope of life. Jeep Hope alive,

678
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 9: Jim Hope alive. Oh tomorrow night and the yond, Jeep

679
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Speaker 9: Hope Alive. I love you very much.

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Speaker 8: I love you very much.

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Speaker 1: I can never see that clip and not cry, So

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Speaker 1: I just will say that there are plenty of obituaries

683
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: going out from press, from white publications, some of them

684
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: throwing the little digs in the shade. And we all

685
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: have personal stories with Reverend who has shaped all of

686
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Speaker 1: us in some way, and so we wanted to take

687
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Speaker 1: some time today to share some of those stories. And

688
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 1: I will yield to whomever wants to start. I need

689
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Speaker 1: just a second to gather, but we have a ton

690
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Speaker 1: more clips just of Reverend himself and also a response,

691
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: a preemptive response from Reverend to Donald Trump before that

692
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: crazy social post on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: I think we should let our guests go first and

694
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Speaker 3: set the tongue.

695
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Speaker 4: I am overwhelmed. Our generation never saw doctor King in person,

696
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: but were able to get to the hymn of Jesse Jackson.

697
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Speaker 4: What a lot of people miss is in the last

698
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Speaker 4: speech of Martin Luther King Junior at Mason Temple, Church

699
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Speaker 4: of God in Christ, he told the people in the

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Speaker 4: audience tomorrow morning, go to a black bank, put your

701
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: money there. He told them about a bridge company in Memphis,

702
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: because he began the shift from civil rights to civil rights.

703
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Speaker 4: And what a lot of people are going to miss

704
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Speaker 4: over the next ensuing days is that Jesse Jackson really

705
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: heralded around corporate responsibility from Budweiser to Pepsi to Toyota,

706
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: and a large measure what it is that we're doing

707
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 4: with the Target Fast boycott is the the seed of

708
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Speaker 4: Reverend Jesse Jackson, who modeled that. And I am proud

709
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Speaker 4: that his last protest in his life was with me

710
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Speaker 4: outside of Target in Chicago, and so I'm grateful that

711
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Speaker 4: the legacy he left, he was able to see another

712
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Speaker 4: generation carried the torch, and I prayed that we'll continue

713
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Speaker 4: to do.

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Speaker 3: So. I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 5: What an honor and pastor you taking the baton, because

716
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 5: you're crystal clear and right on the ways in which

717
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 5: Reverend Jackson really made centerfold for our community economic uplift,

718
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 5: economic justice in the form of making sure boardrooms and

719
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Speaker 5: c suites reflected black people, black men, and black women

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Speaker 5: at those tables. And I will tell you, if we

721
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Speaker 5: could interview some of those earlier C suite executives and

722
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Speaker 5: corporations Fortune five hundred and for one companies in this country,

723
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Speaker 5: if we could interview those black folks who walk through

724
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Speaker 5: that door, I would wager that many of them would

725
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 5: credit the work of Jesse Jackson. Those who are aware

726
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Speaker 5: were credit the work of Jesse Jackson as having created

727
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Speaker 5: a pathway and open opened some doors. I'll tell you

728
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Speaker 5: my first real work with Reverend Jackson was in like

729
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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nine, two thousand, and I will admit I

730
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Speaker 5: was not really receiving him with open arms. I had

731
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Speaker 5: and I think, if I'm to be honest, a lot

732
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Speaker 5: of my peers, you know, in college in two thousand

733
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Speaker 5: at that time, were skeptical of Reverend Jackson. They weren't

734
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Speaker 5: sure if this was you know, some flash you got,

735
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Speaker 5: you know, suit who with cameras coming in to overtake

736
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Speaker 5: you know, our protests and what we were trying to

737
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Speaker 5: do or what was going on. So there was a

738
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Speaker 5: there was sort of an eye of suspicion, and I'll

739
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Speaker 5: tell you those walls came down and the very few

740
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Speaker 5: days that we got to spend together organizing around the

741
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Speaker 5: march on Tallahassee, the largest civil rights protests in the

742
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Speaker 5: history of the state of Florida, around voting the two

743
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 5: thousand presidential election, where he came and camped out here.

744
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Speaker 5: The marches in which he came and assisted me with

745
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Speaker 5: not by my invitation, by the way. And that was

746
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Speaker 5: the beauty of him is he didn't really wait for

747
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: you to call him, you know, to invite him to

748
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Speaker 5: the protests. You were organizeding to the city and you

749
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Speaker 5: were leading. I don't know how he did it, but

750
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Speaker 5: Rev had his tentacles, you know, to the ground, and

751
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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 3: He called up, what's y'all gonna do about that? What

753
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: do y'all?

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Speaker 5: Y'all fam U students, you right there in the capitol,

755
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Speaker 5: right there with the government, right there with the governor.

756
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Speaker 5: And he was the one of the first people who

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Speaker 5: teach me, to taught me the lesson that it wasn't

758
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Speaker 5: It wasn't just when black people at fam you were

759
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Speaker 5: impacted that we need to show out, but because of

760
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Speaker 5: our proximity to where power was, and he meant physical

761
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Speaker 5: proximity in the same city where the governor lives and

762
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Speaker 5: where the legislature convenced that when when they come out

763
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Speaker 5: to black people, is our responsibility to be the first

764
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Speaker 5: line of defense. He expected us to be down sleeping

765
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Speaker 5: at the capitol or protesting us either governor's mansion or

766
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Speaker 5: doing whatever was required to raise the voices and the

767
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: rejection of black people and to register that complaint not

768
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Speaker 5: just on behalf of us as family students, but on

769
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Speaker 5: behalf of black people in the state of Florida.

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 5: He imbued in us the belief that we had a

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Speaker 5: responsibility for our collective community, not just for ourselves. I'll

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Speaker 5: never forget it, and I've tried to pass that on

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Speaker 5: to other young leaders as I've encountered them. He was

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Speaker 5: here again with my sister when she was student body president,

776
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Speaker 5: and Philip Agnew, who was student body president, served as

777
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Speaker 5: vice president to him, and they began the organization Dream

778
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Speaker 5: Defenders right there sitting at the knee of Jesse Jackson

779
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Speaker 5: when they protest and stayed and slept on the capitol

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Speaker 5: floor of the rotunda in the Florida Capital for thirty

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Speaker 5: one days, thirty one days, and Reverend Jackson came in

782
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Speaker 5: in those final days because he said he knew that

783
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Speaker 5: the government was not going to respond in the way

784
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 5: that it should under the Republican administration, so that those

785
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Speaker 5: kids needed a way that they could exit that building

786
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Speaker 5: with pride.

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Speaker 18: He wanted them to be able after thirty one days

788
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Speaker 18: to walk out in victory, and so he flew down

789
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Speaker 18: and eleven o'clock at night is convening us to talk

790
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Speaker 18: about what the strategy is going to be for their exit.

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Speaker 5: And on behalf of my sister myself. I'm sure Philip

792
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Speaker 5: Agnew would agree that the lessons he's taught is the

793
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 5: gift that keeps on giving, because these young people have

794
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: now gone out into the world and have made really

795
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 5: big change, and because of him, they are able to

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Speaker 5: do it with a more strategic.

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Speaker 3: Mind that.

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Speaker 5: Reverend Jackson may have been there on the front lines

799
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Speaker 5: of the protests, but believe you me, before they came

800
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: out there, there was a meeting about what was going

801
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 5: to happen the day after that, and the day after that,

802
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 5: and the day after that and the day after that,

803
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Speaker 5: because that's the way he thought. He was already he

804
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 5: had his mindset on what victory was going to look

805
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Speaker 5: like for us, and in the process of protesting, he

806
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Speaker 5: didn't want us ever to walk out looking like or

807
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 5: feeling like.

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Speaker 3: We were the losers.

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00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 5: He wanted us walking out feeling and believing and having

810
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 5: achieved real victory there. And I'm thankful for it. And

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Speaker 5: for those folks who get skeptical of the leaders that

812
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 5: you see on TV all the time, or the ones

813
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 5: you think run around and just chase cameras and aren't

814
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 5: really invested in what it is you do. I would

815
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 5: actually to reconsider and think again, because as I now

816
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 5: reflect on it, I know that the attention that we

817
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 5: got on so much of the activism that we were

818
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 5: doing at the time wasn't because it was good and

819
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 5: just working us necessarily. It was because the Reverend decided

820
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Speaker 5: to show up, and with him came twenty thirty forty

821
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: cameras and journalists who told our stories and broadcast it

822
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Speaker 5: out for huge audiences to here, to understand and to

823
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Speaker 5: activate around. And so I thank him, and I hope

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Speaker 5: that he goes to glory knowing that he has raised

825
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Speaker 5: multiple generations of people who were prepared to pick up

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Speaker 5: the torch and keep marching.

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Speaker 1: I want to roll this nineteen eighty four clip of

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Speaker 1: his DNC speech before we get to you, Bikari.

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Speaker 9: President Reagan sass nation is in recovery. Those ninety thousand

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Speaker 9: corporations that made the prophet last year but paid no

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Speaker 9: federal taxes are recovering the feder seven thousand military contractors

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Speaker 9: for benefited from Reagan's more than doubling the military budget

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Speaker 9: in peach time. Sure that they are recovering. The big

834
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Speaker 9: corporations and rich individuals who received the book of the

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Speaker 9: three year mother begging tax cuts for mister rigging are recovering,

836
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Speaker 9: but no such recovery is on the way for the

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Speaker 9: least of These rising tides don't lift all boats, particularly

838
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Speaker 9: those stuck at the bottom. For the boats stuck at

839
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Speaker 9: the bottom, there's a misery index. This administration has made

840
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Speaker 9: life more miserable for the poor. Its attitude has been contemptuous.

841
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 9: Its policies and programs have been cruel and unfair the

842
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 9: working people. They must be haled accountable in November for

843
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Speaker 9: increasing into mortality among the poor. In the chart one

844
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Speaker 9: of the great cities of the Western world, babies are

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Speaker 9: dying at the same rate as Honduras, the most undeveloped

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Speaker 9: nation in our hemisphere. This administration must be held accountable

847
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Speaker 9: for policies that look contribute to poverty in America. They

848
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 9: are now plenty four million people in poverty, fifteen percent

849
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Speaker 9: of our nation, twenty three million of white, eleven million Black,

850
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Speaker 9: Hispanic Asian, and others, mostly women and children. By the

851
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Speaker 9: end of this year, that would be forty one million

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Speaker 9: people in poverty. We cannot stand O Leby, we must

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Speaker 9: f fight for change now.

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Speaker 2: Pakari.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean I think that people sometimes get

856
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: caught up in the oratory or the cameras or the lights,

857
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Speaker 3: but they don't know the dynam dynamism that is the man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about someone who rescued hostages from Syria.

859
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Speaker 3: You're talking about someone who at his infancy ran Operation

860
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Speaker 3: bread Basket. You're talking about someone who nestled up with

861
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Speaker 3: doctor Martin Luther King Jr. But also was respected by

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Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan. I mean, just when you look at the

863
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Speaker 3: resume and the breath of it, I think we all

864
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Speaker 3: envy the level of respect that came with being Jesse Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I also think that his mind worked in ways that

866
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Speaker 3: others really don't understand. It was a message that Jesse

867
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Speaker 3: and my father would always say. And I remember when

868
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Speaker 3: Deray and Brittany and all of them at the beginning

869
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Speaker 3: of Precipice of Black Lives Matter, where marching and blocking

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Speaker 3: highways in Louisiana, and my daddy called and said, you know,

871
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Speaker 3: let's make sure that they're not protesting at night, because

872
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 3: people do under the cover of darkness what they wouldn't otherwise.

873
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Speaker 3: Do during the day. It was this kind of way

874
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Speaker 3: in which we've seen this and done this type of

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Speaker 3: ideal that Reverend Bryant talked about that they lived through

876
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: that you don't have to read about it. You know

877
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: the people who can tell you the stories. And my

878
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: familiarity with Reverend Jackson is that I call him Uncle Jesse,

879
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: like we called him Uncle Mary and Barry or Uncle

880
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: Julian Bond. I'm a product of the proverb it takes

881
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: a village to raise a child. And so as we

882
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: were laughing beforehand, we always call the little Jesse Jesse

883
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: Jackson Junior, Little Jesse because when he was at North

884
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: Carolina A and T he used to babysit me. He

885
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: used to come over and eat spaghetti dinners on Friday.

886
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: That was the type of family structure that we had.

887
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: And my dad and Reverend Jackson they clashed at times

888
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 3: like many people throughout the movement, and it wasn't a

889
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: clash over how much do we love black folks. It

890
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: was a clash over how do we get to the mountaintop.

891
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: And as I talked about a little bit on air

892
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 3: and love using my platform to uplift store, where is

893
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: that people don't know. You know, as you had those

894
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 3: rifts between W. E. B. The Boys and Booker T. Washington,

895
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: the same rifts you had with Martin and Malcolm, the

896
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: same riffs you had of legendary riffs that I know

897
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: Reverend Bryant knows about between Julianne Bond and John Lewis.

898
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 3: The more fascinating part about Barack Obama and Jesse Jackson

899
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: is that they were able to have a conversation before

900
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: one of them passed away. They were able to mend

901
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: those fences, They were able to let their heart beat.

902
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: You saw the tears that came from Jesse Jackson's eyes

903
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: when Barack Obama won that election. You saw him be

904
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: able to echo the fact that his work meant something.

905
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: And I just look at the product you talked about, Andrew,

906
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: what he meant to you all in that circle. I

907
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 3: recall when my father worked on the nineteen eighty four

908
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: and eighty eight campaign, really close to Jesse. But they

909
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: hired two young women who we both know. They hired

910
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 3: a young woman named Donna Brazil. They hired a woman

911
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: named Mignon Moore. These institutions, right, that's where they got

912
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: their start. You know how many people got their start

913
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty four, in nineteen eighty eight, and it's

914
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: just fascinating to see. And Bernie Sanders, for example, is

915
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: eighty something years old. And I can say this with

916
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: true veracity. There would not be a Bernie Sanders if

917
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: there wasn't a Jesse Jackson. There wouldn't be an AOC

918
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 3: if there wasn't a Jesse Jackson. And he was bigger

919
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 3: than the Democratic Party. That's what I want people to know.

920
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: He spoke to a humanity that people don't necessarily recognize.

921
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: I encourage everybody to go back and look at his

922
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight speech, the one that we watched a

923
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: clip of, but watch how he talked about the American quilt.

924
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: The last point that I'll make is something that I

925
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: echoed before, but it's so important, and his oratory reminds

926
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: me of revend Bryant's so much, not just an allocution,

927
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: but in the way that they're able to drive home

928
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: lessons with metaphor, because the way that Jesse Jackson was

929
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: one time pinned down by a white reporter. He echoed

930
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: this later in his life about equality, and he compared

931
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: it to sport. And I go back to that all

932
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: the time, because it's not that we excel in sport

933
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: because of our size or our hyper athleticism. We excel

934
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: at sport because no matter what basketball court you get onto,

935
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 3: it's ninety four feet, it's fifty feet wide, the rim

936
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: is ten feet high, the basketball is the same size,

937
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 3: and the rules are known before the game. It's the

938
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: same with the with the baseball feel, it's the same

939
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 3: with the hockey ring. It's the same with the track.

940
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: We know the rules. When the rules are clear, we

941
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: can excel. However, outside of sport, for black people, those

942
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: rules change. And Reverend Jackson was just so clear about it.

943
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: He loved his family, He loved Youseuff, he loved Jesse,

944
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: he loved he loved Jonathan, he loved them, He loved

945
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: every single person that he came around with. I was

946
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: fortunate enough to allow him the opportunity. We saw each

947
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: other in Chicago and he was in a hotel. I

948
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: was for a conference, and he wanted to speak to Cleve.

949
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: He had an opportunity to speak to my dad, and

950
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 3: that was just a powerful moment.

951
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: I want to just as an aside, just for historical record,

952
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: is the transition that Reverend Jackson brought in the black

953
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: and white footage of the civil rights movement. Everyone was

954
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 4: pristine and black suits, white shirt, black tie. Jesse Jackson

955
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: is not given due in large measure to help usher

956
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 4: in hip hop culture. So to go from those shop

957
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: line haircuts to afros, dashiki's and medallions was not just

958
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 4: a change in leadership. I don't want it to get

959
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: so far away. It was a change of what we

960
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 4: knew for leadership to look like and gave permission that

961
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: we did not need acceptability from what a culture was

962
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 4: looking like. So from some of the Montgomery they marched,

963
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 4: all them miles in suits and dresses and eels and stockings,

964
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: and Jesse comes with his chest out with a fist

965
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: lifted up saying, hey, take me as I am. And

966
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 4: out of that really came the raw audacity of hip

967
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 4: hop culture to say this is who it is, that

968
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 4: we are the most known slogan and Americana outside of

969
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 4: a coca and a smile, and you deserve a break today?

970
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 4: Is I am? Somebody? Keep up alive. And so that's

971
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: before we started using saying you have a brand. This

972
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: was our marching orders. The soundtrack of Jesse Jackson's movement

973
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: was James Brown say aloud, I'm Black and I'm proud.

974
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 4: Uh So to know how revolutionary it was for poor

975
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: black people to say I am somebody.

976
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: That's right.

977
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 4: What wasn't just a slogan or a T shirt or

978
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: a banner, It was a mindset, right, And so Angela,

979
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 4: that is so important because he was saying I am

980
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: somebody drum roll. Before there was a Ted talk, Yes,

981
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 4: before there was self help books at Bonds and Noble,

982
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 4: before people could listen to audio books, they knew I

983
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 4: am somebody. And I think that to raise the self

984
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 4: esteem of ostracized and marginalized people is a work that

985
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 4: you can't even quantify. And so I'm I'm grateful for

986
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: him by having that kind of brave, raw audacity to

987
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 4: tell oppressed people I'm somebody. He is simply amazing.

988
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: He was always proud, and I think I'm sorry. I

989
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 3: was just going to say a lot of people don't

990
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: know his story growing up in Greenville. His mother was

991
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: sixteen years old when she had him, and people don't

992
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: know that part of his story. He grew up in

993
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: abject property. The unique part about it, which I hope

994
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: kind of I'd say it was like his villain. What

995
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: do they say when you like your villain arc or whatever,

996
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 3: when you're born into the villainy or whatever. But people

997
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: don't know that his father, his father lived right next

998
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: door to him. He didn't know that growing up. But

999
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: his father was a successful businessman who was also his

1000
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: next door neighbor. And here he is growing up in

1001
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: abject property when I mean poverty. They used they had

1002
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: an outhouse, and he grew up under the rigors of segregation,

1003
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 3: riding in the back of the bus, drinking out of

1004
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: different water fountains. And here he is growing up poor

1005
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: and the man who is your quote unquote father, is

1006
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: your next door neighbor. I mean, just think about the

1007
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: the effect that that has on who you are. And

1008
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: that's why when he says, I was born in the slums,

1009
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 3: but the slums are not in me. I mean, it

1010
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 3: just speaks so powerfully to his story. And I also

1011
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: help I also think that his entire life and this

1012
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: is just me talking, and you know we've talked about it,

1013
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: but I think he was trying to prove something to himself,

1014
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: and I think he was proving something to the world.

1015
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: And I think he was proving something to his father

1016
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: that I am somebody, and I think that that was really,

1017
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: really profound. Yeah.

1018
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: Well, before I do my tribute for Reverend Jackson, I

1019
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: want to run a clip of my dad on a

1020
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: news show just this week where he talked about his

1021
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: own experience with Reverend Jesse Jackson.

1022
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 9: We must never surrender.

1023
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 5: The medical will get better tonight.

1024
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 19: Western Washington and the United States as a whole are

1025
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 19: mourning the loss of civil rights icon Jesse Jacks, Kira Resivans,

1026
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 19: Jack Bill yu Is life at Mount Zion Baptist Church

1027
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 19: in Seattle and Jack. Reverend Jackson made frequent visits to

1028
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 19: the Pacific Northwest. You spoke to some of the people

1029
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 19: who were right by his side.

1030
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 17: Yeah, And for many of those visits, Cairo Seven's cameras

1031
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 17: were rolling. They usually included a stop right here at

1032
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 17: Mountain Zion Baptist Church where he'd preached, plus other stops

1033
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 17: I aimed at mobilizing African Americans or holding the powerful

1034
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 17: to account.

1035
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 15: We were OG's, so you know, we've worked on a

1036
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 15: lot of things together.

1037
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 17: Eddie Rye knew Jesse Jackson better than most. Rye ran

1038
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 17: his campaign for president Washington State in nineteen eighty four,

1039
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 17: one of the many times they worked together over the

1040
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 17: course of more than half a century of friendship.

1041
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 15: He was a jovial guy. My daughter Angela visited with

1042
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 15: him less than a month ago. He was in Burbo

1043
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 15: at the time.

1044
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 17: Why says the biggest lasting legacy of Jackson's long and

1045
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 17: storied career is the way he transferre formed the participation

1046
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 17: of African Americans in the political process, turning them from

1047
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 17: voters or donors into delegates and advocates.

1048
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 15: A lot of people had never thought about really get

1049
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 15: intricately involved in the political process until Reverend Jackson ran it.

1050
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 15: And that's something that resonated all across the country.

1051
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 17: But his career didn't end after his two runs for

1052
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 17: president in the eighties.

1053
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 4: This city really owes a lot to Reverend Jackson, and

1054
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 4: Reverend Jackson loved this city.

1055
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:27,959
Speaker 3: He loved coming here.

1056
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 17: Nate Miles and Darryl Powell showed Jackson around during a

1057
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 17: visit to Seattle in the twenty tens when he met

1058
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 17: with tech giants like Microsoft to advocate for diversity. Returned

1059
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 17: to the civil rights hub of Mount Zion Baptist Church

1060
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,479
Speaker 17: and spoke to students at Rainier Beach High School.

1061
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 16: There's much challenge of them today.

1062
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: If you study, you can be somebody.

1063
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 7: And he always had that I am somebody, and we

1064
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 7: writ into the chant that I am somebody.

1065
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 5: They were excited taking pictures.

1066
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 7: It was just very motivating for the students as well

1067
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 7: as the staff.

1068
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 17: Jackson's role in the fight for equality is now a

1069
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 17: but those who knew him say they will never forget

1070
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 17: what he stood for.

1071
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 15: The impact of Reverend Jackson will last forever.

1072
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 9: Now.

1073
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 17: The men you just heard from say people would call

1074
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 17: on Jackson for help with all kinds of things. That

1075
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 17: includes pushing for the freedom of a local man who

1076
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 17: was imprisoned in North Korea. Well, hear what his family

1077
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 17: had to say about the reverends passing tonight at six

1078
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 17: live in Seattle. Jack Billy you Cairo seven.

1079
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: I want to say that I grew up with a

1080
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: picture of Reverend Jackson on the fireplace mantle. There was

1081
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: a picture with doctor King and Malcolm X, and right

1082
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: next to that was this picture of Reverend And you

1083
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: saw that picture on top of somebody's nineteen eighty four

1084
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: campaign sign. And my dad worked on his eighty four

1085
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: and eighty eight campaigns. He ran the Washington State campaign

1086
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: I think in eighty four, and I cannot remember. There's

1087
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: not an early childhood memory I don't have that doesn't

1088
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: involve Reverend Jackson's presence either, you know, through something my

1089
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: dad is saying, some other protests were about to get

1090
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: involved in. I talk a lot about this on my

1091
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: solo podcast from Tuesday. But I also came into being

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Speaker 1: around Reverend based on the work path that I ended

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Speaker 1: up choosing, or the path that chose me. When I

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Speaker 1: went to DC after law school, we started an organization

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Speaker 1: called Impact, and very quickly Impact became like a partner

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Speaker 1: organization with Rainbow Push.

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Speaker 2: When Big bro.

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Speaker 1: G Flow was there Gary Flowers, and so he did

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Speaker 1: a panel at a Rainbow Push convening, and true to form,

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Speaker 1: Reverend Jackson would go in every single panel discussion and

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Speaker 1: go to the mic.

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Speaker 2: And I'm using this story because to Andrew's.

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Speaker 1: Point, I was like, why he always got to do that,

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Speaker 1: Like we're in the middle of a program and he

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Speaker 1: would go in and he'd say that's something. And what

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Speaker 1: I remember in this moment, I was so offended because

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Speaker 1: he came in and he said, Jeff Johnson was moderating

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Speaker 1: this conversation. He takes the mic from Jeff and he

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Speaker 1: was like, y'all are talking about who's got next? I

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Speaker 1: think that literally was the name of our panel discussion.

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Speaker 1: And you can't replace a giant with goliaths. David didn't

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Speaker 1: just use a slingshot to take him out. He had

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Speaker 1: to cut his head off. And I was like, why

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Speaker 1: he want us to cut his head off? Like what's

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Speaker 1: going on? And I think to this day there are

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Speaker 1: aspects about what he said that I don't understand. But

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Speaker 1: to me, passing the torch isn't about dishonoring the folks,

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Speaker 1: the giants who come before you. It's about ensuring that

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Speaker 1: you don't kill off a legacy unless you think that

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Speaker 1: legacy is not worth living for. And I certainly don't

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Speaker 1: think the man who had a theme song run Jesse

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Speaker 1: Run that Lou Rawls and Phillis Hymon and James Cleveland

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Speaker 1: did for his eighty four campaign is somebody whose head

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Speaker 1: is worth cutting off. Quite the contrary, this is someone

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Speaker 1: who when I was the executive director of the Congressional

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Speaker 1: Black Caucus, he was the only non CBC member who

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Speaker 1: could come in the meeting and be a.

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Speaker 2: Part of the meeting.

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Speaker 1: He was a CBC member to us when he did

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Speaker 1: Rainbow Push Tech twenty twenty to ensure that the tech

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Speaker 1: industry would become more diverse. The CBC without question took

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Speaker 1: on doing that same exact initiative on the Hill. And

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Speaker 1: then I think the other thing that I would just

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Speaker 1: reflect on is Reverend Jackson's calling responses, which are legendary.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why his calls and responses are legendary

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Speaker 1: is because you would start off with I am somebody,

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01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: and you would do them three words, and then he

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01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: would hit you with a paragraph you couldn't keep up

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Speaker 1: with on the other end, like you're.

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Speaker 2: Supposed to respond like I can't even remember what she said.

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Speaker 1: So he would just he would have these moments that

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Speaker 1: would be so funny, and even you know, as he

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01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: started losing his cadence and we couldn't understand him as well,

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01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: he was still making us do call and response, which

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Speaker 1: is also funny. I do want to just take a

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Speaker 1: moment to send so much lef his family, to his kids,

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01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: to missus Jackson to a staff member, John Mitchell, who

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Speaker 1: preceded him in passing to Gary Flowers. So I called

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Speaker 1: big Bro g Flow to Butch Wing, who's based in

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Speaker 1: the Bay and worked for Reverend for many years. Shelley Davis,

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Speaker 1: Lamel mc morris, and Tyrone. Tyrone, I'm sorry I cannot

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Speaker 1: think your last name, but no, I love you. And

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Speaker 1: then the last thing I'll say is the last time

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Speaker 1: I saw him was in the hospital in November.

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Speaker 2: I really wanted to make sure I saw him.

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Speaker 1: My dad couldn't go because my mom had just had

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Speaker 1: a really bad fall and I had to go for

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Speaker 1: a speech. So I went to see him, and Reverend

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01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: was squeezing hands when he couldn't speak. But there was

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Speaker 1: a moment where he really felt like I needed to

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Speaker 1: know my marching orders. He couldn't get them out in

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Speaker 1: a way that I could understand, but I told him

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Speaker 1: when he was ready to talk, that he could call me,

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Speaker 1: and then, no matter what the marching orders were, that

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Speaker 1: I would fulfill them. I made sure I called Congressoman

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Speaker 1: Water so he could talk to her and hear her.

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Speaker 1: And I called my dad, who decided to recite back

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Speaker 1: to him his bio as if he hadn't lived out

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Speaker 1: that story. But I will tell you that I'm very

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Speaker 1: clear about my marching orders. I played them on the

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Speaker 1: show on Tuesday in nineteen seventy two, Reverend told us

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Speaker 1: that it was nation time, and as we go through

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Speaker 1: these very harrowing times, my biggest regret for him is

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Speaker 1: that he didn't see us turn the corner in a

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Speaker 1: very ugly moment in our history. But I know that

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Speaker 1: our marching orders right now is that it's nation time

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Speaker 1: and we have to build, and we have to build together.

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Speaker 1: We have to do that with us. People see him

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Speaker 1: as a great unifier, and he was. But before he

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Speaker 1: was a great unifier, he ensured that our foundation as black.

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Speaker 2: People was strong.

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Speaker 1: And so with that, I do want to just take

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Speaker 1: a moment to correct the record. Donald Trump posted on

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Speaker 1: truth Social about Reverend Jackson. He was writing saying that

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Speaker 1: he was an extraordinary man. We can put that post stup,

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Speaker 1: nick and I won't read all of this. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he chose to focus on a rift between Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: and Jesse Jackson that Bakari's already addressed today. He lied

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Speaker 1: about the long term funding for HBCUs that he claimed

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Speaker 1: to give, about the criminal justice reform that he's taken

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Speaker 1: credit for, about giving as if he's ever supported reparation

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Speaker 1: space to Reverend Jackson for Rainbow Coalition. But he was

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Speaker 1: right in saying that he was a great man, a

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Speaker 1: good man with lots of personality, grit, street smart. Seems

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Speaker 1: a little racist, but we won't belabor the point. I

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Speaker 1: do think it is worth hearing from Reverend Jackson his

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Speaker 1: own words about what he had to say about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 16: That's what well, I wasn't see us in this year.

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Speaker 16: He was our collective go to defeat Donald Trump. Trump

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Speaker 16: represents something dangers to America, using the presensor for personal gain.

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Speaker 16: Unto saying the modern claws and our constution playing on

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Speaker 16: racial fears in Africa, and the asshole is stands far.

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Speaker 16: It's an American judge incapable of being judicious.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 16: The Charlottesville CISTUS where he had the white supremacist Marge

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Speaker 16: particulate as Chown's and Jews uh bend and Muslims. It

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Speaker 16: does some awful stuff to America, and we cannot afford

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Speaker 16: that we're more I stayed in the world. I say

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Speaker 16: it from the Seven Countries. Well, I say it from

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Speaker 16: our neighbors in Canada and Mexico. We deserve better leadership

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Speaker 16: in this. I want to see Trump.

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Speaker 5: Defeated Answeerlau, I love you. That clip just reminded me.

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Speaker 5: I think you're wrong. I think he is. He did

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Speaker 5: live to experience some of the change. Probably what I

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Speaker 5: think is going to be at the start of this

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Speaker 5: of this shift to reclaim our country hole, and that

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Speaker 5: is that it wasn't a military that drove this disastrous

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Speaker 5: administration out of Minnesota. Uh not even the courts didn't

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Speaker 5: do it. Not a senator, not a congress, not a

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Speaker 5: House speaker or Democratic leader. People. And this was so

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Speaker 5: I think people with the evolution of time and technology,

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Speaker 5: you think because you posted your objection on Facebook or

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Speaker 5: Twitter or or x or or or truth or whatever,

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Speaker 5: that you've done your activism. And what what what? What

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Speaker 5: rev understood so importantly, so critically, is that bodies in

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Speaker 5: the streets, people in physical form, not in force, not

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Speaker 5: not not not not a force of of of of

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Speaker 5: of of of anything other than their bodies being there.

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Speaker 5: And if he didn't do anything else, he taught us

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Speaker 5: to put down the phone, put down to this, bring

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Speaker 5: your body to this fight, get on the streets, walk, march,

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Speaker 5: sit ins, sleep in. And you know, people may call

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Speaker 5: it old fashioned, they may think that that's just not

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Speaker 5: how it's going to work anymore. Then let's just look

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Speaker 5: to the example. The people coming to the streets are

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Speaker 5: what got ice and a corrupt government out of their state.

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Speaker 5: And I think that that's what's going to save us

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Speaker 5: every time. And that lesson again was talked to him.

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Speaker 5: He taught it to us, and we got to keep

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Speaker 5: teaching it, so on and so on.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the point of the show where we get

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Speaker 1: to our cause to action.

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Speaker 9: Who cares about truth when the last morning seen.

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Speaker 1: It, There's no better way for us to transition to

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Speaker 1: that from one of the greatest action takers of our

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Speaker 1: time working on behalf of the people.

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Speaker 2: So I'll yield to whomever wants to go first.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was set up a repay.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, my Reverend Degree ain't coming to mail yet.

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Speaker 4: I wanted and right now answer, but I wanted en

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Speaker 4: route to drop one of a seed that I don't

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Speaker 4: want missed in the legacy of what Bacari shared about

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Speaker 4: Revend Jackson's dad, I wanted to add what is often

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Speaker 4: ignored in history is Reverend Jackson was introduced to doctor

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Speaker 4: King through doctor Samuel DeWitt Proctor, who was his college

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Speaker 4: professor so it was an HBCU instructor sent a letter

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Speaker 4: to doctor King that says, I have a young man

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Speaker 4: who's a student who needs to study under you. Had

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Speaker 4: that HBCU professor not seeing something in him and connected

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Speaker 4: him to the most seminal voice of the time, then

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the outcome would have been. And

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Speaker 4: so I wanted to give a shout out to HBCUs

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Speaker 4: and HBCU professors who are really pulling out the best

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Speaker 4: in our students. I think it's serendipitous that we're having

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Speaker 4: this conversation en route to the midterm elections, and so

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Speaker 4: Megah Evers gave us the blueprint voter education, voter registration,

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Speaker 4: get out the vote. There is so much on the line,

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Speaker 4: There is so much at stake, and I know all

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Speaker 4: of us hear it in our sleep. Your vote is

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Speaker 4: your voice, and so ask that you would please become

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Speaker 4: involved in get engaged. I would say from the Black

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Speaker 4: Church lens, I hope that the Black Church will take

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01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 4: a page from white evangelicals, and the page that we

1274
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 4: should take from white evangelicals is find out what are

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Speaker 4: our principles in our policies and then find the personality

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Speaker 4: a lot of times in the black culture, we look

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Speaker 4: for a personality without having what are our policies? There

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01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 4: is so much on the line this election cycle that

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 4: we've got to find out what are our policies, what

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Speaker 4: is the ask, and then do the drive behind that.

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Speaker 2: It's really good.

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Speaker 3: What I was going to what I was going to

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Speaker 3: say is, you know down south we have this saying

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Speaker 3: and sometimes Rev when I speak around the country, around

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 3: the world, you know how you say things sometimes and

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01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 3: you expect the response from the audience and it's just

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01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: crickets response. Yeah, like dog on that I'm in the

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Speaker 3: wrong in the wrong part of the country for this,

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Speaker 3: but we are. We say, give give people their flowers

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Speaker 3: while they're living, you know. We follow that up with

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Speaker 3: an a man and the crowd usually says amen, right, and uh.

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Speaker 3: I think the Reverend Jackson's death shows us something that

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Speaker 3: we don't necessarily want to come to grips with, which

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Speaker 3: is that our heroes are dying and so right now,

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 3: while we still have the Jim Clyburns, the Maxine Waters

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Speaker 3: of the world, while we have a lot of these

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Speaker 3: bishops and ministers and bankers and people who come from

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Speaker 3: a generation that have seen so much and toiled in

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01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 3: the proverbial vineyard. It's necessary we give people their flowers

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Speaker 3: while they're living. And also if we're younger than they are,

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Speaker 3: like Angela Rai and her dad, make sure we're writing

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Speaker 3: for them and getting their stories and spending time with them.

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Speaker 3: And I'm doing the same thing with Cleeve. It's hard

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Speaker 3: to try to get them to write, but those things

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Speaker 3: are so necessary. And today in particular, I know we're

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Speaker 3: not supposed to necessarily give a date or a time,

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Speaker 3: but on Wednesday, February eighteenth is Willie Rix's birthday. I

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Speaker 3: don't know how many of you all know Willie Rix. Mukasa.

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01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 3: Mukasa used to walk through the campus of Morehouse all

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Speaker 3: the time. But Mukassa was a young member of Snick

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01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 3: and he loved Loved Love Jesse, and he loved Doctor

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01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 3: King and he used to get on people's nerves all

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Speaker 3: the time in the movement, and Doctor King ended up.

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Speaker 3: He would always give Mukassa his old clothes and so

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Speaker 3: he would always have these suits and dress shoes. They

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Speaker 3: were a little too big for him, but he was

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Speaker 3: one of the smaller members. There's a picture of my

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01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 3: dad in Mucassa and Harry Belafonte and Sidney Pardier at

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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 3: Rikers Island after they got arrested for protesting the South

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Speaker 3: African Embassy in New York and Mucassa's birthdays today. One

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 3: of his claim the fame, although it gets stolen from

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01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 3: him throughout history, is that he was with Stokely Carmichael

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Speaker 3: in Mississippi when they came up with the phrase black power.

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Speaker 3: And for them, black power was not saying that we

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Speaker 3: were going to throw cocktails through the windows of white folk,

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 3: but black power for them, and I've heard Reverend Bryant

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Speaker 3: talk about this all the time, was black economic power,

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01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 3: it was black political power. Black power for them meant

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01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 3: that we had a position of self fulfillment. And so

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Speaker 3: happy birthday to Willie Rix, also known as Mucassa, one

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Speaker 3: of the little known members of the movement. But you

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Speaker 3: are a big part of the Seller's family and Seller's household,

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Speaker 3: and you are a big part of our history.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll ask Nick if he could throw up those

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01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 5: images of Reverend Jackson with the students with black power

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 5: held up and maybe him doing a little teaching. But

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Speaker 5: I want to make that my CTA, which is which

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01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 5: is to say that, you know, we oftentimes pass judgment

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01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 5: on people and and come up in our own heads

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01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 5: with our own stories that we tell ourselves about the people.

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Speaker 5: And I'm seeking very specifically about leaders. This was the Yeah.

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01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 5: This was again Philip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: These are the dream Defenders and the early orientation of

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01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 5: that group. This is at the thirty one days of

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01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 5: sleeping on the coal marble floors of the Florida Capital

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01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 5: and emerging being walked out of that building with with

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01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 5: with with rev and Jesse Jackson. But when he said, uh,

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01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 5: I am somebody, I don't know that I fully encompassed.

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01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't connect the the truth of that

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01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 5: mantra as I was repeating it right after him. But

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01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 5: that's a it is a powerful declaration. It's a powerful

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01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 5: self declaration. It's a powerful community declaration. And he said

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01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 5: it the way he said it because he felt it

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01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 5: with his whole heart, with his whole being, and he

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01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 5: was ministering as much to himself as he was to

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01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 5: to those who were on the listening side. I just

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01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 5: asked us to think, will you know, be real thoughtful

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01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 5: about the words that we speak if we want them

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 5: to have a meaning, But that phrase has taken on

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01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 5: new resonance for me today as we talked about the Rev.

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01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 5: I am somebody. It is my self declar but it's

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01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 5: also a declaration for our community and the people who

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01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 5: we love and care about, especially in this time. We're

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01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 5: being pushed left and right and the compass isn't clear.

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01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 5: But we are somebody, and I think that helps to

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01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 5: make the future and what we have to do much clearer.

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Speaker 1: I invite folks to go back and listen to Reverend

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01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: Jackson's nineteen seventy two Nation Time speech from the National

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01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 1: Black Political Convention. Why I think that we have to

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01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: figure out where we are as a people, strengthen our

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01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: foundation to ensure that we do progress, that we do

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01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: move forward, that we do embody the fullness of our power.

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Speaker 2: I am somebodyness.

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01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 1: And once you do that, I asked that you tap

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: back in with our dear brother, Reverend Doctor Jamal Bryant.

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01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: There is a target boycott going on. We have to

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01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: remember our power even in moments like these. The discipline

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01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 1: that Reverend exercised in so many movements are why doors

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01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: got opened for black business executiatives, blackboard members, black vendors

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01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: and contractors, all of that, and we cannot ensure our

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01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: progress in this country, especially in these times, without that

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: type of extraordinary discipline.

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Speaker 2: So I invite you all to do exactly that. Thank

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Speaker 2: you all so.

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01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 5: Much, Thank you Bishop for coming.

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01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: Thank you, We're so very grateful for you. Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to say in closing, thank you all for

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01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,480
Speaker 4: having me. Glad to be a part of the family reunion.

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01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 4: And strategically I wanted you to know what this day

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01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 4: means to me because this marks the three hundred and

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:42,879
Speaker 4: eighty one days, the same amount as the Montgomery bus boycott.

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01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 4: So to be able to come and to reflect on

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01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 4: repend Jackson, and to do it on homeland, I can't

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 4: think of a better place.

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Speaker 10: I love that.

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 3: I love that well. Please keep us in and keep

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01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 3: us in your prayers.

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01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 4: Please welcome, no, thank you, We'll do home.

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01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 2: As always.

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Speaker 1: lampod dot com. We are Angela Raie Andrew Gillen Bacari

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Speaker 1: sellers with Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant. Welcome home, y'all. There

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Speaker 1: are two hundred and sixty three days until midterm elections.

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Speaker 1: Please remember, I am somebody, really on the stop.

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Speaker 4: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 20: I am some box.

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Speaker 7: Some bots may be cool, but I am some bots.

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01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 7: I may be young, but I am some box. I

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01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 7: may be on we fact, but I am somebodys. I

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01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 7: may be small, but I am somebodies.

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01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 4: I may make a mistake, but.

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Speaker 7: I am somebody's. My clothes are different, my face is different,

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 7: my hair is different.

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01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 20: But I am somebody. I am black, brown, white. I

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Speaker 20: speak a different language. But I must be respected, protected,

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01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 20: never rejected. I am God's child. I am somebody.

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Speaker 3: Give yourself a big hand.

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