WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 140: Huge Jump

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<v Speaker 1>This week on a Happy half Hour, he was getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>The progress was steadily going in one direction, but the

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<v Speaker 2>increments were very small.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday he took a huge jump.

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<v Speaker 2>The game he played in Germany compared to the game

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<v Speaker 2>he played here on Sunday, it was two different sports.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was yeah, you know, Trevon Wallace said it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Alabama Price.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the cow?

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa?

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Happy Half Hour, presented by Southern Star,

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<v Speaker 1>an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers. Here are your hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Gant and Cassidy Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, friends, Welcome to this week's Happy Half Hour. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta tell you missed the show. Within the show, we

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<v Speaker 2>might have to have podcasts. Matt Splice in the director's

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<v Speaker 2>cut with the bonus footage.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like this. It's making fun of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, we'll treat this like a Burt Reynolds Dom

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<v Speaker 2>Delawi's movie The boot Blooper reel. At the end, we

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<v Speaker 2>got you know, they're they're just things. Cassidy, bless her heart,

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<v Speaker 2>does not know yet. It's not our fault.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just young.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, this is the Happy Half Hour presented to

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<v Speaker 2>you by Southern Star, an official bourbon partner of the

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers. Celebrate the spirit of the Carolinas and my friends,

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<v Speaker 2>we almost all.

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<v Speaker 1>Of those people in the stadium the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>All most had something big to celebrate, didn't they.

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<v Speaker 3>When when they kept getting a chance for another for

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<v Speaker 3>a two point conversion and it got moved up to

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<v Speaker 3>the one yard line, I looked at I looked at

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<v Speaker 3>the guy sitting next to me, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is are we about to win this game? But

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<v Speaker 3>alast you forget Patrick Mahomes is on the other side

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<v Speaker 3>and he does Patrick Mahomes things. But what a game?

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<v Speaker 3>What a great football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just an.

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<v Speaker 3>Entertaining, well played game from beginning to end.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was joking, We're half joking last week when

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<v Speaker 2>I said this, and I mentioned this as Oki in

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<v Speaker 2>the pregame show, I said, you just got to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of unburden yourself of expectations, so you kind of go

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<v Speaker 2>in and you don't know, I mean, there was no

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<v Speaker 2>empirical reason for that game to turn out the way

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<v Speaker 2>that game turned out. Kanas City Chiefs from nine to one.

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<v Speaker 2>They got Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid in the top five defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers were three and seven and struggled to beat

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<v Speaker 2>Saints and the Giants the last two weeks. That one

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have gone the way it went. But the amazing

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<v Speaker 2>thing about that is, and this that game contained multitudes

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<v Speaker 2>because the easiest thing to do and the easiest thing

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<v Speaker 2>for Dave Canalis and Bryce s Young to grab hold

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<v Speaker 2>of would be dang, we almost.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That was awesome and we almost did that awesome thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reaction from those guys was we got to

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<v Speaker 2>get that one in the future, and both of them

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<v Speaker 2>in the aftermath of the game, that was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the consistent message of if anybody was thinking about moral victory,

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<v Speaker 2>they were heading that off fit the past.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I believe it was Ikey who said

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday when we were talking to him on Monday, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we all play in the same NFL like, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>to win that and that's just a good reminder and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we're here for to kind of to dap

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<v Speaker 3>up and say, hey, let's look at the good parts

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<v Speaker 3>and this and that and the other. But in that

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<v Speaker 3>locker room that you know, throw the record out the window.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all in the same NFL. We're all one of

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two teams, right, we should be able to go

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<v Speaker 3>out there and finish that off, right, But there is

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<v Speaker 3>still something to be said about going toe to toe

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<v Speaker 3>with the defending Super Bowl champs. Two time MVP, like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, a top five defense, and I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of what went well on Sunday, you know, players

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<v Speaker 3>told us that Bryce Shong gave a speech after the game,

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<v Speaker 3>which is which is not all that common, so it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stood out just that he did that. And

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<v Speaker 3>jac Horn said that Bryce said, this wasn't a fluke,

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<v Speaker 3>this is who we are and we can win these games,

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<v Speaker 3>and that he was right, Like it wasn't like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they just had some weird things break their way to

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<v Speaker 3>keep that game close. They played their way into keeping

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<v Speaker 3>that game close. And a lot of what went well

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<v Speaker 3>were things that you have seen them building on to

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<v Speaker 3>this point and trying to address and working on and

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<v Speaker 3>getting better at the things that didn't go well, or

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<v Speaker 3>the things that they've been pretty open about need to

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<v Speaker 3>get better. And you know, it's you kind of saw

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<v Speaker 3>a clear line of demarcation the other day, like these

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<v Speaker 3>are the things we're doing well. Keep building on that

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<v Speaker 3>these are the things that we need to bring along

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of get us over the hump to win

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<v Speaker 3>those sort of games.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And that's one of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been thinking about this a lot in the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of days because overthinking things is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, the Carolina Panthers did things that they hadn't been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was to me when we look back

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<v Speaker 2>at that game a year from now, if the situation

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<v Speaker 2>is very different with this team, if this team's something

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<v Speaker 2>other than three and eight going into the last six

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<v Speaker 2>games of the season, I think we're going to look back.

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<v Speaker 1>On that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Is normally for the Carolina Panthers to have a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to win that game, Chewba Hubbard's got to run for

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<v Speaker 2>one twenty five or one fifty. The defense has got

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<v Speaker 2>to get a bunch of stops beyond what you think

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to do, and they've got to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of bottle things up a little bit, keep Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>Mahomes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Front of them. They did things that were out of character.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Young was throwing passes that we haven't seen him throw,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least haven't seen him complete all season. Chewba

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<v Speaker 2>Hubbard was not a factor until middle of the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>In on, which I mean the Chiefs sold out to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the run.

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<v Speaker 2>And listen, if I was game planning to play Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Canalison and Carolina Panthers, that's exactly where I would begin

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<v Speaker 2>to because that's the thing most likely to give me trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Juba wasn't a factor until he was. The defense was

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<v Speaker 2>getting strafed early on. They allow the Chiefs score five

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<v Speaker 2>straight possessions. Granted two of those were field goals, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was huge because anytime you get a red zone

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<v Speaker 2>stop on Patrick Mahomes, that's a win. Anytime you make

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<v Speaker 2>you know whoever kick, whether it's Harrison Butcker when he's healthier,

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Trader the other day, if Spencer Trader's on the

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<v Speaker 2>field instead of Patrick Mahomes, that's a w for your defense.

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<v Speaker 2>And that defense got stops in the fourth quarter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they sacked Patrick Mahomes five times. This team had twelve

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<v Speaker 2>sacks and ten games.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>And to me, that's the biggest sign of progress is

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Young did things Bryce Young hadn't done. That defense

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<v Speaker 2>did things that defense hadn't done. And if you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>for a path forward, for the Carolina Panthers. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>the two areas to me where you see the most

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<v Speaker 2>hope for the future.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course we talk all the time too about

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<v Speaker 3>complimentary football. That's what the offense the defense did, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what the offense did within itself as well. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they were able to run you, but more in the

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<v Speaker 3>second half because the Chiefs had to start dropping back

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<v Speaker 3>and protecting the past more because of what Bryce did

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<v Speaker 3>in the right And we've seen him slowly ever since

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<v Speaker 3>he came back after the benching, we've seen him start

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<v Speaker 3>to be more confident with those throws. You know, he

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<v Speaker 3>had a couple of throws in Denver where it was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he uncorked that and just you know, he and the

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<v Speaker 3>receiver weren't on the same page, or sometimes they were,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, but it didn't end up making a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day. We've seen him steadily

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<v Speaker 3>get more and more confident, which is what they wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>And they also wanted him to get the ball out

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<v Speaker 3>quicker and buddy, did he do that on Sunday. He

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<v Speaker 3>was blitzed more on Sunday than he ever has been

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<v Speaker 3>in a game in his career. He was blitched forty

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<v Speaker 3>percent of his dropbacks. That's an insane number. And all

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<v Speaker 3>he did was go eleven to fourteen for I think

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty plus yards in a touchdown against

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<v Speaker 3>the Blitz.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that was the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I keep going back to with Bryce over the

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<v Speaker 2>last month and again part of you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>standing here in one place doing this thing for thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>and they all sort of start to blend together. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's worth kind of stepping back and looking

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<v Speaker 2>at things from a wider lens.

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<v Speaker 1>Every now and then, if.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Dalton doesn't get hit by a car on a

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday before we go to Denver, none of this happens.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no indication that anything other than Andy Dalton

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<v Speaker 2>playing out the season was going to be what happened

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<v Speaker 2>for the Carolina Panthers. So if not for a traffic

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<v Speaker 2>accident on a Tuesday, Bryce doesn't get back on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>and since then the progress And you can't see this,

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<v Speaker 2>but this go theater of the mind with me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>holding my fingers just a little bit apart, like a

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<v Speaker 2>finger's with a part. Bryshung was getting better that much

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<v Speaker 2>at a time. The first three weeks, when you go Denver,

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>He was getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>The progress was steadily going in one direction, but the

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<v Speaker 2>increments were very small.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday he took a huge jump.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and it's just the game he played in

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<v Speaker 2>Germany compared to the game he played here on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>it was two different sports. I mean, it was this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Trevon Wallace said it. That was Alabama Bryce.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen that that was the guy who was dealing confidently,

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<v Speaker 2>and he really was, I mean, standing in the face

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<v Speaker 2>of that pressure making some of those throws. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>when they go zero and everybody's coming and he hits

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<v Speaker 2>lega for the first down, It's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoof Yeah. I think that was maybe the most impressive part.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we also just asn't decide to have

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<v Speaker 3>to maybe give some credits to the fact that being

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<v Speaker 3>able to sit back and catch his breath for those

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<v Speaker 3>five weeks that Andy did play probably worked. Wonders just

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<v Speaker 3>being able to focus purely on the game book, the

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<v Speaker 3>playbook and practice without necessarily having to I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to say worry about the game, but because he was

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<v Speaker 3>still prepared, you never know what Obviously, you never know

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<v Speaker 3>what's going to happen and when you have to step in.

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<v Speaker 3>But being able to focus on what he needed to do,

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<v Speaker 3>I think took a lot of weight off his shoulders

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<v Speaker 3>and now we're seeing play more free year because of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But to your point, I mean, you look at, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>that Green Bay game last year where he technically had

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<v Speaker 3>his best statistical game, right that he still had more

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<v Speaker 3>yards in that game than he did on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was a lot of running for his life

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<v Speaker 3>and dumping it off and and had the advantage of

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<v Speaker 3>playing against a defense that wasn't there to cover things.

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<v Speaker 1>What a what a wonderful way of saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>Something came up the other day and somebody said, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a real rider way to explain that. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's another example of that. You described the Packers defense accurately.

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<v Speaker 2>There they weren't there to cover things.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you see on Sunday, I mean he had

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<v Speaker 3>a conversion to Adam Thingland. I think it was a

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<v Speaker 3>third or fourth down conversion. I mean the guy was

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<v Speaker 3>draped on him. He got a PI call as well

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<v Speaker 3>a DPI call, but that ball was perfectly placed to Thielen,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was not scared to kind of put it

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<v Speaker 3>over there and let his guy make a catch. He

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<v Speaker 3>had a play to get down the right sideline at

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<v Speaker 3>one point that was not the one that got dropped,

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<v Speaker 3>But this one was a conversion as well. It got

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<v Speaker 3>him down close to the red zone and he threw

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<v Speaker 3>that ball. He never left the pocket and there was

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<v Speaker 3>a blitz coming. He knew it was coming, he saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>He never left the pocket. He stood in there. He

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<v Speaker 3>delivered that ball as he took a massive hit. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if he makes those plays a year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he makes those plays two months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and it's fair to ask. And again

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<v Speaker 2>I try to take the longer view of these things.

0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Playing quarterback in the NFL is really hard. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>reason Andy Dalton's good at it. He's done it for

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<v Speaker 2>a long long time. Bryce has done it for a

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<v Speaker 2>very short amount of time. And because we have this

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<v Speaker 2>tin and now in our modern culture, to every day

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<v Speaker 2>is a referendum on forever, and so whatever it is

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<v Speaker 2>right now is the thing everybody assumes it has to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And after the way last year when everybody assumed Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>is always going to be bad at football.

0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Everybody assumed that CJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud's always going to be great at football. Early this year,

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams has four or five good games and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, look at Caleb Williams. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this thing called regression to the mean and people

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<v Speaker 2>start to it takes time for people to become what

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<v Speaker 2>they are, and I think Bryce is still very much

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<v Speaker 2>in the evolution of his own game. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to get caught in the trap of assuming

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce is always going to look like this. In anybody's season,

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<v Speaker 2>there high points, low points. That's why I like averages,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just want to see what it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>six weeks from now, built on this. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see how he takes this and turns it into the

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<v Speaker 2>next six weeks of the season, because that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the other big takeaways is Dave Canalis has

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<v Speaker 2>always been one week at a time, and ask me

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<v Speaker 2>again on Wednesday, who's going to start Sunday. He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to say anything. Bryce told you everything

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<v Speaker 2>you needed to see out there today. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>Dave just you know, it's reached the point where you

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of shrugged and it was like, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's starting.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, did you see the game he just played.

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<v Speaker 2>So now it's on Bryce to see how he can

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<v Speaker 2>build on it, to see what's next for him, because

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting back to the brice a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>were expecting a year and a half ago when he

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<v Speaker 2>was drafted based on everything we had seen in Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>because again, as Trevon Waller said, that was Alabama.

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce, right now that he has seen himself do it too,

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<v Speaker 3>very curious what Sunday looks like because this Tampa Bay defense,

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<v Speaker 3>the secondary figuring out the right way to put this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just use the numbers this The Tampa Bay secondary

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<v Speaker 3>is twenty eighth in the league overall. Now that Bryce

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<v Speaker 3>has kind of seen what he can do, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>not to say he's going to go out there and

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<v Speaker 3>light him up and toward the place, but it is

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<v Speaker 3>can he take another step forward right now that he

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<v Speaker 3>has seen the tape and he and his receivers are

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<v Speaker 3>getting closer on the same page in chemistry because some

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<v Speaker 3>of those incompletions on Sunday too were drops.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Xavierally Get told us yesterday that when he went home

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday night and kind of watched the film. He ended

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<v Speaker 3>up texting Bryce about that play that was down the

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<v Speaker 3>left side line and apologize and he's like, you put

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<v Speaker 3>it in the perfect spot. I should have caught that,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that was on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things against the Bucks, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned are they at top five defense?

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<v Speaker 1>They are not.

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<v Speaker 3>They're a bottom five defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Todd Bowles really good at coaching ball?

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<v Speaker 1>He absolutely is.

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<v Speaker 2>And Todd's one of those coaches who is great at

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<v Speaker 2>coaching any one particular game. I just love the way

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<v Speaker 2>I love his approach to it. I think he is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those coaches who is good for long stretches

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<v Speaker 2>of time. If you want to raise the level of

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<v Speaker 2>your organization, Todd Bowles is the kind of coach you

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<v Speaker 2>want to have around he is. He is so good defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>He can turn the screws on you in one particular

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<v Speaker 2>week and make anybody look see Canalis. Yep, he certainly

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<v Speaker 2>does that. So it's going to be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that you know you're gonna hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it started to creep in a little bit, in

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<v Speaker 2>the little bit that people were allowing themselves to think

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<v Speaker 2>positively about that game that that unfolded. You know, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>with I think it was Rob Hunt, said hey, we're

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<v Speaker 2>three and eight, we got stuff to play for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which, mathematically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, congratulations, you're in the still in the Hunt graphic

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<v Speaker 2>because you haven't been eliminated and you have the good

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<v Speaker 2>fortune of playing in the NFC South, the trailer park

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<v Speaker 2>of the NFL. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Every trailer park gets haveing hoa, somebody's got to be

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<v Speaker 2>the president. So uh, it's still right there in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you. There are three games out of the division

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<v Speaker 2>league with six to play, and I've seen weirder things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>In this you know, yess of a division.

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<v Speaker 3>So way division games to play too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, anything can happen. But I think, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to look at this as what is this

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<v Speaker 2>doing to set this team up for next year? And

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<v Speaker 2>I think being in a game like Sundays, seeing how

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<v Speaker 2>close how far away they are from how close they

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<v Speaker 2>need to be because there's still a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>going wrong. They you know, coaches love winning games where

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<v Speaker 2>they've got object lessons to show people in concrete things.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost that game, but all Dave Canal's got to do. Say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to beat the Chiefs, be better in the

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<v Speaker 2>red zone, you want to beat the Chiefs, get off

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<v Speaker 2>field on third down. He's got those very tangible teaching

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<v Speaker 2>points to lean on coming out of this game, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's going to serve these guys well, because

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<v Speaker 2>these guys have started to figure something out. This reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me so much of two thousand and two when John

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<v Speaker 2>Fox came in first as a head coach. They won

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<v Speaker 2>their first three games based on a defense that was

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<v Speaker 2>hard from day one. I mean, you walked into a

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<v Speaker 2>group with Dan Morgan, Chris Jenkins, Julius Peppers, and it's like, oh,

0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.160
<v Speaker 2>they're pretty good. And then they went through a long

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<v Speaker 2>stretch and eight game losing streak in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the season where they couldn't score a point, couldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything right. And then at the end of the year

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<v Speaker 2>you saw that turn. They go up to Cleveland, they

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<v Speaker 2>win an ugly game in Cleveland and win like whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it happened to be for their last five I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was finish seven and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, turned a three and eight into a seven and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So for the last.

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<v Speaker 2>Five and they started to find out a personality, and

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<v Speaker 2>we all know what happened. The next year, they got

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<v Speaker 2>on a run, went to the Super Bowl, which at

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<v Speaker 2>dilom a quarterback. I don't know that they're necessarily anticipating

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback change right now, but this team is starting

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out a personality. And if Bryce being confident

0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.679
<v Speaker 2>in making throws like he made Sunday as part of

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<v Speaker 2>that personality, there is definitely some stuff to build on

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>On that note, can we talk about the defense for

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<v Speaker 3>equipment we should how much stock do you put in

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say like a game changer, but

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<v Speaker 3>one guy being a lynch pin.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about DJ Watts, Yes, yeah, I mean, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing in a three to four defense, at

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<v Speaker 2>outside linebacker position is the most important position on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've got a guy like Jadavian Clowney out

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<v Speaker 2>there run around by himself, there ain't so much he

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<v Speaker 2>can do. You put a guy on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that force multiplayer. It's the guy who makes

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<v Speaker 2>everything else work a little better around him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I do I look at this team.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when the Carolina Panthers going to the offseason

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a lot of time to talk about offseason stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think one of the keys is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be adding dudes on defense, people who chase quarterbacks around

0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.280
<v Speaker 2>in the front seven specifically, is going to be one

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<v Speaker 2>of Dan Morgan's focuses this offseason. But DJ Wadham's done

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<v Speaker 2>a job in a couple of weeks. He's got a

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<v Speaker 2>sack in each game, and he frees things up on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side. And you've seen a more active Clowney.

0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.639
<v Speaker 2>You've seen you know, Ashawn Robinson continuing to do the work.

0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, my guysh that guy he left the game,

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<v Speaker 2>came out. Uh, he was clearly hurt. I saw him

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<v Speaker 2>leading the stadium with a cast on his hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens this week. But you know, football

0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.560
<v Speaker 2>players call cats like that war daddies.

0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he is one.

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.800
<v Speaker 2>He's he's that old head who is going to go

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what, and again to a lesser degree of

0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.439
<v Speaker 2>what's happening on the other side of the ball. But

0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.960
<v Speaker 2>you can kind of see that path forward. You put

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<v Speaker 2>Deareck Brown on the field next day, Shawn Robbinson next year,

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<v Speaker 2>You add another couple pass rushers, you fortify some other

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<v Speaker 2>areas of that defense. See, you know, Trevin will be

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.399
<v Speaker 2>a year better next year.

0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.280
<v Speaker 1>You can sort of see where this group's going to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and listen, do they need more dudes and more

0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.639
<v Speaker 2>time they do? Uh? Do they need this defensive coaching

0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.680
<v Speaker 2>staff come back another year smarter about these pieces. They've

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.400
<v Speaker 2>gotten the pieces they need. Yep, that helps too.

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.359
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not saying there there yet.

0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 2>But they are in that spot that the two Panthers

0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.919
<v Speaker 2>were in coming out of Cleveland in December, where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, we're not there, but I can at least

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<v Speaker 2>see the map.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's exciting.

0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:24.000
<v Speaker 1>It was good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just and I joked about this the

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<v Speaker 2>other week in the mail bag, the Panthers have kind

0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:34.000
<v Speaker 2>of escaped the oh my god, is it over part

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 2>of the league. I mean that, you know, Sunday's result

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 2>against Washington notwithstanding, Dallas is ready to curl up and

0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 2>for this thing to be over. Other teams in the

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.359
<v Speaker 2>league have reached that point where they're only thinking about

0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.399
<v Speaker 2>draft position and how do we extract ourselves from this mess.

0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 2>The Carolina Panthers suddenly have got stuff to play for,

0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.639
<v Speaker 2>even if it's you know, twenty twenty five stuff.

0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:58.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's cool. It's different.

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 2>It's not something that we've experienced the last couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years around here.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. It's like like I said a minute ago, you

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<v Speaker 3>can see kind of what Dan Morgan's vision is and

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 3>makes you excited to see what they can do this

0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.920
<v Speaker 3>off season two and where they can take it next year.

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:18.280
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so I guess you could. I guess you

0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:20.080
<v Speaker 2>could say they have a lot to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks they have a lot to be thankful.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's our segue. It's Thanksgiving Week, everybody, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is your favorite Thanksgiving side.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite Thanksgiving side is a correct answer. Well, I I.

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrate the entire catalog of Thanksgiving. It's my absolute favorite holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate Halloween. I got no business with it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care for the people who go straight to Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>after Halloween.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, shots fired.

0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.359
<v Speaker 1>I want a month of gratitude. It's kind of my thing.

0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I you know, get your people around you, eat a

0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 2>bunch of food, do things that make you happy, help

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:57.679
<v Speaker 2>other people as you can. That's kind of my aesthetic

0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.440
<v Speaker 2>at this point in my life. So I just love

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<v Speaker 2>everything about Thanksgiving. I love green bean casserole. I love

0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 2>those sausage and cheese biscuits my mom makes out of

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:12.200
<v Speaker 2>three ingredients biscuit, sausage, cheese that we eat before we eat.

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<v Speaker 3>Does she make them as biscuits or as.

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<v Speaker 2>Balls balls but smaller than a golf ball so you

0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 2>can eat a whole bunch.

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Of them breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean I love everything about it. My sister

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.280
<v Speaker 2>in law makes this weird wild rice thing with cream

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 2>of something, soup and green peppers in it. Uh, it's great,

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.359
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. I mean, I I just love mostly

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I like having my people around me. I mean that's

0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 2>the key. But I dig and I think it's a

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 2>perfect compliment to everything else on the table. Cranberry sauce

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 2>out the can, because it even gives you lines so

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 2>you know how to cut it. I mean, everything's right

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:52.840
<v Speaker 2>there for you. They've even given you instructions with this

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 2>food product.

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 1>So it don't look like much.

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.360
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's perfect because it's got that sweet

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:03.359
<v Speaker 2>tart compliment to all this savory deliciousness that hits your plate.

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Right. I do love cranberry sauce. I had grew up

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.200
<v Speaker 3>eating it out of a can, and then I spent

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 3>about ten years while working as a sports reporter, I

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 3>also worked at a bed and breakfast in Gainesville, Florida,

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.120
<v Speaker 3>and nothing came out of that kitchen that wasn't homemade.

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 3>And once you've made homemade cranberry sauce for about seven

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.399
<v Speaker 3>or eight years and you've tasted that, it's hard to

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.160
<v Speaker 3>have anything else here.

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 1>You and I had that, and I appreciate it.

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 2>But I just like there is something solid and stable

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and predictable about that.

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that I like certainty this time of year.

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 2>So if I I know, I can open that, can

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 2>hear that come out on one end, cut it along

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 2>those lines, and I know exactly what I'm gonna get.

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 3>The correct answer though, was sweet potato casserole.

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:57.399
<v Speaker 2>That sure great, love it, love sweet potatoes. Here's the

0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 2>key to Thanksgiving. Get around your people, eat food that

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.959
<v Speaker 2>you enjoy in a responsible amount.

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps commit some physical activity.

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Earlier in the days so you can do it without compulsion,

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 2>but mostly just don't steal the land of indigenous peoples

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.639
<v Speaker 2>and enslave them. If you can pull that off on Thanksgiving,

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the key.

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 3>That's all you can ask for it.

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my moment of political activism for Thanksgiving. Actually no,

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not, because I gave you the assignment of all

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 2>assignments this week, but you got to experience Alice's Restaurant

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 2>by Arlo Guthrie in all its eighteen and a half

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>minute glory.

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what's funny is like I when you said

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 3>that song, I had no idea what you're talking about.

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 3>And then and then it was playing. I was listening

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 3>to it in the car and it got to the

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:46.199
<v Speaker 3>first little you can Have Anything you Want at Alice's

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 3>rest and I was like, I know this song. I

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.199
<v Speaker 3>at least know that riff. It's either been used in

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 3>commercials or movies or something, and so I knew that

0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:01.919
<v Speaker 3>little riff. It was definitely entertaining. It's not one that

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 3>I would listen to over. I'm a big If I

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 3>find a song I like, I'll listen to it seven

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 3>times in a row in the car. Yeah, that's one

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 3>that I'm obviously probably not gonna do that with just

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 3>because who has that kind of time. But it made

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 3>time fors rivee around. I gotta get a full tank

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.479
<v Speaker 3>of gas and then drive around and listen to it

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 3>seven times. But it was definitely entertaining. I liked the story.

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 3>I liked how it really took us on a ride

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 3>and then came back to the beginning. It could have

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 3>been half the time if he didn't repeat everything seventeen times.

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was fun.

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 3>That was part of the fun.

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 2>You're you're starting to get a window into my soul here,

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 2>because if you listen to that song carefully, there are

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:47.120
<v Speaker 2>lines in that song that have become part of.

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>The Darren Gamp vernacular.

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, when he talks about how Officerobi, you know, there

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>were a couple of things that could have happened. He

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>could have brought him down to the station and given

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>him a medal and thanked him for how brave and

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 2>honest they were. And he says, but that wasn't very

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 2>likely and we didn't expect it.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>That's a thing that just.

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Now falls out of my mouth when I'm talking about things.

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, something will happen about football, and I'll say

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't very likely and we didn't expect it.

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, know, there are things about it. I love it.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 2>It's a protest song. It's about ending the draft. It's

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 2>about that. Yeah, I mean that's the whole thing. It's

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>a Vietnam protest song he.

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Definitely went to he tried to enlist.

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>No, he didn't try to enlist. He was he was drafted.

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>That's why he went to Whitehall Street to get inspected, detected.

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>And see what I thought?

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 3>That was a volunteer.

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 2>This was this was all context. He was trying to

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 2>get out of the draft. And and the point of

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>the song is how ridiculous is it that I am

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 2>not moral enough to go burn women and children's villages

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 2>down in Vietnam after littering in Stockbridge, Massachusetts.

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 3>So he was saying, Okay.

0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Now you got to go back and it again. I

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 2>have sentenced you to another drive. So by the way,

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 2>you had me listening to Kristin.

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Chinawell, Oh yeah, I forgot what I gave you.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I find delightful. By the way, you're so fun.

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 2>You might not peg me as a show tunes kind

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of guy, but I like a show tune every

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>now and then. And she she is amazing to me.

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>She's like the Steve Smith of singers. It's hard to

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>believe anything that big comes out of something that little.

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 2>She has got a gigantic voice. She's an incredible performer.

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 2>And Taylor the Latte Boy is a cute little song.

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Uh fun, Yeah, it was fun. It was nice and

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>while I got down one of the things happens to

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 2>me when I tend to listen to a lot of

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:44.479
<v Speaker 2>music on YouTube, and so it gives you the next thing. Yea,

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 2>and there is I saw a response to this from

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 2>the perspective of Taylor the Latte Boy, and it was basically,

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 2>get this crazy woman away from me, I need a

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 2>restraining order, which I find cool because it flipped that

0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 2>story on its head.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 3>That's a fun one. And the first guy that ever

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 3>did it, he was a comedian. He did it as

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 3>part of his stand up and he put on a

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Starbucks apron to do it. So, yeah, it was it

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 3>was cute. So but I sing that song to myself

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 3>a lot when I go in Starbucks.

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. What what you got for me

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>this week? What am I listening to on my Thanksgiving break?

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Question Mark, We're gonna just do it. I've been holding

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 3>this one. I've been thinking about it, and I've been

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 3>slightly hesitant because up what you're gonna say. But we're

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 3>about to get into a very happy time of the year,

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 3>So let's just get this last sad one out. Of

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 3>the way, oh boy, because you need to do it.

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 3>This was listed as Rolling Stones. Rolling Stone said this

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 3>will be one of the top one hundred songs of

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 3>all time when it's all said and done. Your good

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 3>friend Rob Demoski laughed at me when I said that,

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 3>and then he went and listened to the song, and

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 3>he came to me the next day and said, you

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 3>were right. I said, okay, all right, what you got

0:28:56.280 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 3>all too well? Mm hmm. Taylor's version ten minute version

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 3>ten minutes.

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>See, this is payback for making you listen Alice's Restaurant.

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Now you got to listen to it again, now that

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you know what it's actually about.

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>That you have to make sure you're listening to the

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 3>ten minute version.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>All right, fair enough, Well, since you since you're doing that,

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 2>it's Thanksgiving.

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>There are things.

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>There are a couple of cultural signifiers for me when

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I get to Thanksgiving week. Number one is I'm gonna

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>listen to Alice's Restaurant seven or eight times in my car,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>even if I have to drive around extra to do it.

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I used to torment the kids.

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I'd say, give me the ax cord, I only want

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>to hear one song, and I'd listen to that, and

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>they would squall, so I'd listen to it again. Maybe

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 2>that's why they don't ride around with me. But the

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>other one that it's just a staple of this week for.

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Me is the Last Waltz.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>The band is the greatest American band, even though only

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>one member of the band was American.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>That would be over ter the band.

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the band. Levon Hilm was the drummer in the

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>cornerstone of the band. It's the greatest American band, even

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 2>though everybody other than Levine in the band was Canadian.

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Their last show was captured by Martin Scorsese for the

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 2>movie The Last Waltz.

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay.

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>They brought in an all star cast of all their friends.

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Eric Clapton was there, Bob Dylan was there, Neil Young,

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Mitchell, a star studded cast was there. But the

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Last Waltz is The concert itself was on Thanksgiving Night

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 2>at the Winterland Ballroom in San Francisco in nineteen seventy six,

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 2>So I just have always associated the Last Waltz with

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving Friday Night. Here's a PSA Friday Night at the

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Visualite Theater. Here in Lovely Elizabeth Josh Daniel and friends

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>do an annual Last Waltz tribute show that me and

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>my smart friend Kelly's smart friend Anne and some other

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 2>friends will be in attendance for it's a great time.

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>And coming down the stretch of that show. Coming down

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>the stretch of the movie, two of the last three

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>songs You're Gonna Hear are Forever Young by Bob Dylan.

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 2>That song under that name's been recorded by a lot

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 2>of different people, different songs, but the Bob Dylan Forever

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Young with the band from the Last Waltz. Look it

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>up on the youtubes. And then they closed the show

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 2>with I Shall Be Released. And when you think about

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the band and the scope of their career, what Robbie

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Robertson and Levon Hilm were able to do together as

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>musicians along with an incredible band, I mean I could

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 2>go on and on all day about Garth Hudson and

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Rich Danko and the boys, and it was just an

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>incredible band. And to see it all come together in

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>that way, captured in the way Martin Scorsese captured it

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>was just moving. For lack of a better word, I

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>associate it with Thanksgiving and all good things. So I

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>am a complete sucker. It's a miracle. I don't start

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 2>crying every week every year during Thanksgiving because I love

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 2>it that much. I mean, I just think that's the holiday.

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>These are the people we're supposed to be in life,

0:31:58.440 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>so let's go be it.

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 3>You know what My favorite part of our Thanksgiving is

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 3>tell me watching the old w KRP Turkey Drop video.

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Because God is my witness. I thought turkeys could fly.

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Me and my dad and my uncles, we are the

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 3>only ones in our family that find it funny. My

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 3>cousins think we're ridiculous, but it is. And my dad

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 3>and his brother can quote the entire thing from beginning

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 3>to end, and they do every year around this time.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 3>My dad from the ground like sacks of the not

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 3>since the Hindenburgh tragedy is my dad will call me

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 3>on Thanksgiving Day to recite it to me, and then

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 3>he'll hang up the phone.

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I love that about the Hill family. That's amazing.

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>So she knows WKRP a sitcom from the seventies.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I know that scene, and yet she doesn't know this.

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>We'll play you out with with podcast Matt, going back

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to the clips from the beginning of the show, the

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 2>blooper reel of things Cassidy Hill does not know.

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>La la la la, la la la. Hello on my baby, Honey?

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Is that a hooter song? O?

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 2>That's Michigan Jay Frogg from Looney Tunes. Wait a minute,

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>you don't. We almost have to leave that in at

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>the top of the show. It's, uh, what are we doing,

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Cassidy sweet.

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Art, are you even recording? Oh?

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>That's great, we'll drop that in bonus cuts, the director's

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<v Speaker 2>cut of The Happy Half Hour. Oh boy, On that note,

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<v Speaker 2>have a great Thanksgiving. Everybody, Go be around your people,

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<v Speaker 2>help where you can. We'll see you next week on

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<v Speaker 2>The Happy half Hour.