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Speaker 1: word came down last night that the word legendary doesn't

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Speaker 1: even go far enough. Vin Scully, who was the voice

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Speaker 1: of the Dodgers for sixty seven years. You think about this,

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Speaker 1: this was the longest tenured broadcaster with a single team

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Speaker 1: in pro sports history. But it was more than that

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Speaker 1: the people that followed the Dodgers over the years because

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Speaker 1: or through the television. He died last night at his

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Speaker 1: We have an opportunity now to talk to another Dodger legend.

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Speaker 1: He's a broadcaster with the team now. He was a

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers. Rick Monday, Rick, Welcome to the show. Good,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon. Last night was a difficult night for those

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Speaker 1: of us that knew Vin. But quite frankly, I think

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Speaker 1: was already attracted to the game of baseball. I was

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Speaker 1: When we listened to the Dodger games, Vince Gully and

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Speaker 1: that I think all of us, and then when I

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Speaker 1: Kenna was almost like when you listen to Vinn begin

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Speaker 1: a friendly hand on your show older and saying, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how difficult your day was today, but

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Speaker 1: what was it like in your introduction to Vince Scully

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Speaker 1: at that level, Well, at that level it had been

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Speaker 1: a little bit different because you know, growing up and

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Speaker 1: Wound up going to Arizona State, but I was around

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers organization for a little bit, had not met

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Speaker 1: It also happened to be I think my sixth or

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Speaker 1: And while we miss our friend, I really cherished the

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Speaker 1: what I'd ever seen before. He had a good judgment

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Speaker 1: kind of intimidate you. The intimidation is not a large

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Speaker 1: the first night he said to me, he said, remember

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Speaker 1: without question, humility without question, and love for a family

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Speaker 1: down the Hall, the Dodger Station, A five seventy KLA

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Speaker 1: c Rick Monday more coming up on the John and

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Speaker 1: Is I know John? And can I know who you are?

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Speaker 1: wheel of justice that we have here. Yeah. The two

431
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Speaker 1: it's twenty year old Malik pat and forty four year

432
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: old Jason Payne were the two guys that were arrested,

433
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Speaker 1: and it said pattis believed to be the primary suspect.

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Speaker 1: The twenty year old is the one that probably shot

435
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Speaker 1: your son, and the forty four year old they were

436
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 1: still trying to come up with his role in all.

437
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: They should think it may have been his mentor that

438
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: they made plotted these robberies, or you know, it's just

439
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: thoughts that came to my family. We all kind of

440
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: thought it all at once, so, you know, I don't know,

441
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: it's probably the way we were brought up in everything

442
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: to think that way, but it just seems kind of

443
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Speaker 1: odd that that age difference would be there for someone

444
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Speaker 1: to be going out and doing these things. Yeah. What

445
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Speaker 1: did you think of the story this week with the

446
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: with the Craig, the Norcoe liquor store owner who shot

447
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Speaker 1: back at the robber that came in with the gun.

448
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: Have you have you been following that one. I sure

449
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Speaker 1: wish our son was going in there instead of the

450
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Speaker 1: seven eleven because he'd still be on two feet right now. Yeah, absolutely, so, Steve,

451
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Speaker 1: give give the go fund me again for your son.

452
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Speaker 1: We know that our listeners really pitched in to help out.

453
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Speaker 1: I please, could I please thank everyone for that? Oh yeah? Absolutely?

454
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Speaker 1: Go ahead. All your guys compassion and all your love

455
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: and all of you your prayers have met with incredible, awesome,

456
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, belief that there's still actually good people out there.

457
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Speaker 1: My wife and our immediate family wanted to extend our

458
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Speaker 1: most heartfelt thanks to everyone. And we're getting pretty close

459
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Speaker 1: to where we'll be okay for a couple of months,

460
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Speaker 1: and I was just hoping maybe we could have you

461
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Speaker 1: share with some friends out there and everything. But the

462
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Speaker 1: main thing I wanted to say is thank all of you. Okay.

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Speaker 1: The go friend site is seven eleven Shoot we Go,

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Speaker 1: seven eleven gunshot victim on eleven, twenty twenty two, right, okay,

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Speaker 1: And of course the name associated with it is your son,

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Speaker 1: Jason Harrold. Yes, Okay, if folks still want to give,

467
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Speaker 1: maybe we'll put a link back up there because we're

468
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Speaker 1: rooting for him, Steve, and hopefully he'll make a comeback,

469
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Speaker 1: as you told us earlier in this interview. He did

470
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Speaker 1: answer that he was hungry, right he said, he said

471
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Speaker 1: one word in the last three three weeks. Progress may

472
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Speaker 1: be slow, but hopefully this progress, oh my gosh. We

473
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Speaker 1: were very happy about that. But I also wanted to

474
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Speaker 1: thank kf I. Their generosity is overwhelming and you guys,

475
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Speaker 1: like I said, I've listened to you guys forever for many, many,

476
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Speaker 1: many years, so I appreciate you and thank you as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, Steve Paul, we appreciate you coming back on

478
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Speaker 1: and give our best to your son, Jason. I sure

479
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: will thank you, Ken, all right, that's Steve Paul. His

480
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Speaker 1: son is Jason Harold. He is one of the people

481
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Speaker 1: that was shot in the seven to eleven crime spree,

482
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Speaker 1: particularly the one that occurred on the morning of July eleventh,

483
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Speaker 1: where they knocked off a bunch of seven elevens and horribly,

484
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Speaker 1: horribly had to shoot people, including Steve on Jason, who

485
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: got shot right in the head and recovery seems to

486
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Speaker 1: be incremental, but at least it's happening. Where he uttered

487
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: a word at something, it could be months or years,

488
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Speaker 1: but the family's hanging in there. And you can check

489
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Speaker 1: out the go fund me for Jason Harrold Moore. Coming

490
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Speaker 1: up on the John and Ken Show on kf I

491
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Speaker 1: Am six forty right after the News at five o'clock

492
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Speaker 1: is Craig Cope. You've heard a lot about him in

493
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Speaker 1: the last several days. He's being sought out for interviews

494
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Speaker 1: from all over the country, even beyond in Canada and

495
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 1: other countries. He is the man who was behind the

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Speaker 1: counter at his own liquor store in Norco and when

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Speaker 1: he saw it was going on outside in the parking

498
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Speaker 1: lot very early in the morning on Sunday, he knew

499
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Speaker 1: it wasn't good news, so he positioned himself with his shotgun,

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Speaker 1: and sure enough, when one of the robbers came in

501
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Speaker 1: waving his gun in the air and tell everybody hands up,

502
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Speaker 1: and of course Craig was the only one in the store,

503
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Speaker 1: he took no chances and he fired. Man. He got

504
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Speaker 1: that guy on the shoulder. Don't know his condition. He

505
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Speaker 1: was listed as critical. They are to all four men

506
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Speaker 1: because they did take the injured guide to the hospital

507
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: and that's where the police caught up at them. Not

508
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: that long after this attempted robbery, because apparently Craig said,

509
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: the cops got there pretty quick. So I'll talk to

510
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: him at five oh five. You'll hear his story in

511
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Speaker 1: his own words, A very, very humble guy. And speaking

512
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Speaker 1: of humble, Vince Scully, of course, passed away at the

513
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Speaker 1: age of ninety four. I think what they say is,

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Speaker 1: you know, you celebrate the life, because if you lived

515
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Speaker 1: in ninety four and you've had a life like Vince Scully,

516
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: you really just want to You're sad, but you also

517
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: want to celebrate it because it was amazing sixty seven

518
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: years the voice of the Dodgers, and they're gonna light

519
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: up City Hall and Blue Dodger Blue Tonight to honor

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Speaker 1: Vince Scully. The tributes I'm sure will continue for days

521
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: and weeks after this deb Mark give a backyard kind

522
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Speaker 1: of it's more like a front yard, but we considered

523
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Speaker 1: a backyard. It's a very unusual house. Well, when I

524
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Speaker 1: saw this story on the the other night, I thought, Wow,

525
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: there's nothing people won't do now, and apps just make

526
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: it so easy to do. Of course, everybody's familiar with Airbnb,

527
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Speaker 1: where you can rent somebody's home when they're not there,

528
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Speaker 1: or maybe it's an extra home they have that they

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Speaker 1: rent out the people for a week or a weekend

530
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Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, that took off like crazy. But

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Speaker 1: now in this era of inflation and people always trying

532
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: to get you know, smart about making a buck, there

533
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: is an app. Well, you can rent out your backyard

534
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Speaker 1: for dogs to play in. Oh that's so cute. All

535
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Speaker 1: I thought of was the poop. Well, it's called Scooper.

536
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Speaker 1: You've got to clean up the mess every time you

537
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Speaker 1: have a group of dogs that leaves your yard. It's

538
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Speaker 1: just foul. It makes five minutes. Really, what what if

539
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: it's big dogs of gross? Oh? Yeah, because you have

540
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: these little creatures that just like pebbles come out. Sniff

541
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Speaker 1: Spot is the name of the app. The founder is

542
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Speaker 1: David Adams. Sniff Spot is by dog lovers for dog lovers,

543
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Speaker 1: Which is why I mentioned you, because I thought, you

544
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Speaker 1: know you love your dogs. You're a dog lover. Maybe

545
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Speaker 1: you'd want to have a few more over in your

546
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Speaker 1: backyard if you rented it out for an hour or

547
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Speaker 1: two for the dogs to play in. Because I've seen

548
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Speaker 1: this problem where I live. In other places, people complain

549
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: there aren't enough dog parks very true in LA. That's

550
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: probably really true, isn't it. Yes, do you have any

551
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Speaker 1: near you? Well, yes, I do go to this one.

552
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: It's not really a traditional dog park, and you're really

553
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Speaker 1: not supposed to bring dogs, but everybody does, and everybody

554
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Speaker 1: lets their dogs. That's funny. You said that. There's a

555
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: park down the street from me. Yeah, and I see

556
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Speaker 1: dogs in there all the time. But one day I

557
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Speaker 1: took her closer. Look on this sign says no dogs. Yeah,

558
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: same thing where I go. But everybody does it. Yeah,

559
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: so there's no enforcement, No, not at all. The big

560
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: thing they're trying to do where I live now is

561
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Speaker 1: make sure you have your dog on a leash if

562
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Speaker 1: you walk it around, because a lot of people like

563
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Speaker 1: to do that here too, just let their dogs run crazy.

564
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: It's just it's a trail and a path that a

565
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: dog can run ahead and I'm free. I'm free, and

566
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: they look really wild and excited. But that can get

567
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Speaker 1: out of control pretty quickly. If they run into another

568
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: dog or some animal they chase, they can run over

569
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Speaker 1: by a car. Then it's not so much fun anymore.

570
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: And of course the gold standard is the dog beach,

571
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Speaker 1: which those are really rare, particularly in La County to

572
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Speaker 1: have a dog beach. Long Beach has a pretty big one.

573
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Speaker 1: You ever been down there? No, pretty big dog beach. No,

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Speaker 1: I've never taken my dogs to the beach. The San

575
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Speaker 1: Diego dog Beach is awesome. I would go down there

576
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Speaker 1: with my aunt and she would bring her dogs. It

577
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: was so cool. It is. I don't even have a dog,

578
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: but sometimes if I'm there, I do watch them play.

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Speaker 1: It's funny to see all the dogs run around like nuts,

580
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: jumping on each other. It is so that's sniff spot.

581
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Speaker 1: The other opportunity that you might have, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know the ancience his fault. I ask you, do you

583
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Speaker 1: have a backyard pool? Yes? Ah, you can rent that

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Speaker 1: out too, now for dogs, No, for people. Depart I'm

585
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Speaker 1: just kidding, no, thank you, No way. A dog party

586
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: in the pool would be cute. I'm not renting it

587
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Speaker 1: out to people. God knew. So you're okay with dogs

588
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: in your backyard, but you wouldn't want to have people

589
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: in your pool. So you kind of dog poop but

590
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: not human poop. Absolutely, yeah. Imagine that people vomiting in

591
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: your pool and partying. And I wouldn't do either. I

592
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: don't have a yard, and if I had a pool,

593
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't rent it out to strangers. But I can

594
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Speaker 1: understand some people want to make a little money on

595
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Speaker 1: the side, so they don't want to pass up an

596
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Speaker 1: opportunity this. Now, the thing about it that I wondered,

597
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: you have to be present with your dog and the

598
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: dogs are required to be vaccinated. Makes sense. I don't know.

599
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: Maybe you upload something online to prove that. Sniff Spot

600
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: provides two million dollars of liability insurance for the hosts,

601
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: so that's they must take a cut of whatever money

602
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 1: is paid for this from the app. So that's how

603
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: they can cover the liability insurance. Because the dog bites

604
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: another dog and you have to take it to the hospital. Yeah, although, well,

605
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Speaker 1: I guess if you did this, you could bring a

606
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Speaker 1: group of neighborhood dogs with you, Like your friends could

607
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: all get together and rent somebody's backyard to have run

608
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Speaker 1: around for an hour or two. I guess you could

609
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Speaker 1: do that. But you're right, something could go wrong. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Then the app about renting pools that are local to you,

611
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Speaker 1: they offer one million dollars an insurance for hosts for

612
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: every single booking. Because that could be a liability too.

613
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Speaker 1: What if for kid drowns absolutely or somebody jumps in

614
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Speaker 1: and hits their head. You are limited exclusively to the

615
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Speaker 1: pool area, and there's an adult that has to know

616
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Speaker 1: how to swim at all times. It is there so

617
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Speaker 1: kind of like a lifeguard. They claim that they do

618
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Speaker 1: inspections with a third party. Sometimes they bring in a

619
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Speaker 1: pool maintenance company to make sure that your pool is

620
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: kind of up to standards, and they claim they're not

621
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Speaker 1: going to just you know, have any riff reff dangerous

622
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: pool and other cases, we have a pool team reach

623
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Speaker 1: out to someone and do a FaceTime sort of tour

624
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: of the pool. Yeah. They do make money based on

625
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: commission with their hosts, both apps or hourly rentals. The

626
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: host does set the price, the availability, and the rules,

627
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: saying could range. It says here for the dogs, it's

628
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: four to twenty dollars an hour. It's not bad if

629
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Speaker 1: you bring a group of people and a bunch of dogs.

630
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Pool rentals are thirty five to fifty, But that can

631
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Speaker 1: get out of hand. What if somebody has to use

632
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: the restroom? Ken, Yeah, that's another good question. You're right.

633
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Speaker 1: I don't think you get your inside house privileges to

634
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: use the restroom. Is there a tree? That's a good question, Denmark.

635
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens, because if you rent somebody's

636
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: backyard pool for hours and you're having a good time,

637
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: you could easily see the need to go to the

638
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: bathroom absolutely, And I guess it's up to the homeowner

639
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: to decide whether or not you get restroom privileges, all right,

640
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: Coming up next to my conversation with Craig Cope. Craig

641
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Speaker 1: Cope is the man that decided he was going to

642
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Speaker 1: take action when an armed robber entered his liquor store

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