1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Is practicing with the first team offense from. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: The training camp of the Dallas Cowboys. It is Around 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: the NFL. I am Dan Hansis, I got heroes with me, 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and his hairy legs and Mark Sessler. 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, I don't this whole practice for the first 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: team offense, I mean camp and the preseason in general. 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 3: Let's for real, has become like less and less first 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: teamers doing anything and not even showing up in the games. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 4: Oh, we're absolutely like year twelve veteran who's slowly ramping 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 4: up that starting spot is secured. 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: I am, it's so exciting to be here at Cowboys camp. 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: We we just wrapped up a press conference with Zaddy 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: himself Mike McCarthy that just, you know, pinch me goosebumps 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: moment for the old Zeusser. And I meant to Greg's 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: wearing shorts and you did You did choose. You had 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: two choices this morning, Greg, You could have wore the 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: short shorts or the longer shorts. You chose the longer shorts. 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: And I thank you because I have to say this 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: to anybody at NFL network, colleagues, friends, many of you. 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: You gotta be aware of sitting in the director chair 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: at these remote things with your short shorts. The flesh 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: email inner thigh is not something we need. 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: And a lot of and to be fair, a lot 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: of you know, you'd probably get less of that with Greg. 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 3: But a lot of the people occupying these director's chairs 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: are like x NFL linemen and just beefy general and people. 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: So it's an excess of that body party. 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: You don't have to mention my abundance of hair body 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: hair though. I think that's that's rude. I think that's 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: the way to go. We're at training game. Everyone in 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: shorts is like Phonsie over here kicking the jukebox. This 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 4: is audio medium your guy, though, Zaddie, it was nice 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 4: to see him, Zaddy in a front like he is 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: in his element. He very much. 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Are you starting to get it? I did I see 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: in Zaddy? Well? 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: I do, because I think he enjoys. 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: I it's just coosing up to you, but absolutely, I. 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: Think he enjoys being the head coach of the Dallas 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 4: Cowboys very much that he embodies that in a Zaddy 42 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: way where he's the man here. This is a nice 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 4: time of year, or two. There's a lot to do. 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: It's all about ball, but it's all about him. He's 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 4: in charge too, and there's not a lot of pressure, 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: and he's just like cracking jokes. He's so open with 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: the media. I mean, he does fifteen twenty minutes on 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: a podium, then he does fifteen twenty more minutes on 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: the side with them, and it's just like he's so 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: he's totally so like. 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: Just from another angle, like he does all that, he 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: does it all very well. And I think that he 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: is in a very comfortable with his own skin. I 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: think that's where you're getting out a little bit with 55 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: your definition of all this. He is comfortable in his 56 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: leadership role. He's taken on more than ever before with 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: his team, and he seems to be uh delighted by 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: the whole thing. And he was great with the media 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: and he's joking with individual you know, reporters. So I 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: see all that. I just don't. I just disagree with 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: the base definition of where we don't. We've already talked 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: about this. 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Can we talk about the seating arrangement. I mean, let's 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: show some respect. Mark Me and Rosenthal are sitting with 65 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,559 Speaker 1: the reporters in the folding. 66 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: Chair and would become a talking point mark off. 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: To the side stand office. You won't even give McCarthy 68 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: your respect of being in front of IL. 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: So first of all, like it was a shaded spot 70 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: which was appealing to me, and this like I don't 71 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: like I'm I was just observing from a different perch. 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: You guys had the same camera angle I had. I 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: was like, we want to cover from all angles, so 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: I'll go sit in a different place. 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I just wish you were. I knew. 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: I knew that would be annoying. I knew that when 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: you get on the radar, it's like, I'm not doing 78 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: this is not because of you. It's because of the shade. 79 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: It's because of Mike. That's what I'm saying, right. 80 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: But I mean I got to see him from a 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: side view like you saw him up front like that, 82 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: so you could have why not if you're so fascinated 83 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: with him, you could explore from different angles yourself. 84 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: I am fascinated with him. In fact, do you know 85 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: it would be an abuse of my duties as host 86 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: of the show. I had to ask Mike McCarthy a question. 87 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and let's listen in Dan Hansson around the NFL. 88 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: NFL network Hard Knocks is starting up again this week. 89 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: You run the show a couple of years ago. Mojo 90 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: moment was a thing that kind of took off. I 91 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: was wondering if that comes back there they are change it, 92 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: maybe different from Mike Myers vehicle or anything like that. 93 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 5: Well not the mojo movements still there. You know, we've 94 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 5: we're using a pad of practices. So when we've won it, 95 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 5: we've done it every day since we've been in paths 96 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 5: and there'll be one today. 97 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: So what was the greatest mojo moment of can so far? 98 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: Follow us? 99 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 5: So far as the offensive coach? Who was the two 100 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 5: point play as the head coach is probably you know 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 5: the last one was was pretty good for the defense. 102 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know what any of that meant. At the end, 103 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned another Mike Myers vehicle, maybe the uh, We're 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: not worthy moment of the day, the extreme close up, 105 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: something like that, something from the Wayne's World world. 106 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: The thing I love because you know a lot of 107 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: these are you know, people looking for a story angle 108 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: or looking for basic data about players health, and so 109 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: it's a lot you know, it could be dry and 110 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: you elicited. I think you took him to a new place, 111 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: and there were giggles throughout the crowd, and that's the great. 112 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Quest had a couple of those, like the turnback, like well, 113 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: who's that guy, which you always expect when you're the 114 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: stranger dropping in amongst the beat reporters. I've always been uncomfortable, 115 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: whether it's combine or something like this, just because if 116 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: I was a Beat guy, I don't want anybody in 117 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: my time that's just like dropping by, and I feel 118 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: that energy sometimes coming off emanating off other Beat reporters 119 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: sometimes could be a little cranky. 120 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes not here though not like the Es are like 121 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: very chill because they got to escape Dallas for a 122 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 4: couple of weeks and hang out working like in a 123 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 4: perfect uh southern California beach community. 124 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: And isn't it. We're at RAMS camp last year. They 125 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: were defending Super Bowl champions last summer, and you know, 126 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: the Rams put together a really good operation there and 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: everything was organized and clean and neat and friendly. But 128 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: when you're rolling in, you get off the one on 129 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: one and you head in and you start seeing the 130 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: signs on the light posts, and you pull in here 131 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: and you see all the people dressed up, all the fans, 132 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: and the the way they have all the merch and 133 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the food and the and then you see the fields. 134 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: It just feels bigger. And I think that's part. 135 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 136 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: You know, we're going to talk to Brad Sham. The 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: Sham got it a little bit later. Who happened to 138 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: be at that presser a little stroke of good luck 139 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: for our show, the voice of the Dallas Cowboys, and 140 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: he was telling us, you know, he's been involved forever 141 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: with the team and Dallas. Everything's bigger, from the training 142 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: camp to the to the Hall of Fame parties. And 143 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: you feel that when you're here in a way that 144 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: you're not going to feel it at other camps. 145 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: There's no question. You also have like you have the 146 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: huge signs coming in Cowboys training camp so that everyone 147 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: can take their ine and pictures and stuff. But they 148 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: are just literally bigger than they would be at any 149 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: other training camp. They're like forty feet in the air. 150 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: You have the tower old Bear Bryant style, and you 151 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: know Jerry Jones was playing in the sec but like 152 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: back when Bear Bryant was doing this, where like the 153 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: owner is literally at the top of a tower, like 154 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: coaches used to do in the fifties, barking out to players, 155 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: and he's literally three or four stories above all the players, 156 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: like looking down on his peons with the huge Cowboys 157 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: logo on that, Like you don't see that at a Well. 158 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: I think the other thing is because it's such a 159 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: Cowboys it's kind of preposterous, but it's also I like it, 160 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: so it's. 161 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: Part of the Dallas Cowboys of lore. 162 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way that you fly the Jacksonville Jaguars 163 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: to Oxnard, California and when you park there's like four 164 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: thousand Cowboys fans trying to get in. 165 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: It's like Monday morning. 166 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure some of them traveled here to make 167 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: a week out of it, no doubt, But like that 168 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: percentage is way lower than it would have to be 169 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: with any other. 170 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: I don't think you've got to be an ox start 171 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: in August. 172 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: That's what everyone says. 173 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: You're saying, I'm saying that these are California based Cowboys fans. 174 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 6: Yes, not. 175 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: There many other teams. They're Raiders, the Cowboys, a few 176 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: others times, mostly. 177 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: From the area. 178 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Anybody that works for the Chargers, they're listening right now. 179 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: Cover of years, like they're not in them. They're not 180 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: getting a medal. In most popular LA teams, I think 181 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: it's Raiders, Cowboys, Rams in some order. And that's amazing 182 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: because you could make sense. 183 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: I think that's the order actually Raiders, cow. 184 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: Rams obviously history here, Chargers, excuse me, Raiders history here. 185 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: The Cowboys. They've they've been the Dallas Cowboys as long 186 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: as they've been a team. And yet they have such 187 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: a following that goes back to just the allure of 188 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: it all. And I know there are people listening to 189 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: the show. They're even annoyed right now. I could picture 190 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: like comments now I can't believe they're doing kind of 191 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: like a Cowboys episode of the show. But I think 192 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: it's good to check in on this team because, in 193 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: addition to them being this bigger than life entity within 194 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: the NFL, the team does matter, Greg And we're gonna 195 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: talk to some players in the team. We're gonna excite 196 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: to get out in the practice field and check out 197 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: what's going on there. But first let's get caught up 198 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: from the weekend. 199 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 7: Do some news. I'm talking about the quarterbacks schools, the 200 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 7: mini camp, the all seasons. 201 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: The training camp. 202 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: You were tired, everybody. 203 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 7: You fish one hell of a coup. 204 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: And only thing else I got to say is how 205 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: about your Cowboys? Dug that out with the archives? That 206 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: was actually you think that was after one of the 207 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: super Bowl triumphs of the nineties, Jimmy Johnson. That was 208 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: after the nineteen ninety two NFC title game, that famous quote, And. 209 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very that felt like the Super Bowl it 210 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 4: did with the Bills and waiting. 211 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: Right with I think they beat the forty nine er. 212 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: There's some classic games there in that era. It's very important. 213 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: We talked about this a few weeks ago. Mark the 214 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: team that everyone loves and the team that everyone loves 215 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: to hate, and that's what the Cowboys are that moment. 216 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: I think it's like I had a best friend who 217 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: was a Cowboys fan, and he's the one that made 218 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: me a football fan, and like watching how quick Jimmy 219 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: Johnson turned that operation around from a one in fifteen 220 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: nightmare post Tom Landry to a absolute juggernaut, and so 221 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: I bited my friend. I'll tell you a really fast story. 222 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: I was in Washington, d C. In college and there 223 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: was a Redskins Washington game and we were on the subway, 224 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: just gonna Redskins cowboy. Yeah, we were gonna go to 225 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: us like we were going to go to a sports 226 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: bar and on in this this subway car my friend 227 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: had at Troykeman, Jersey on and there was like a 228 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: thousands of Redskins fans and like as we come to 229 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: our stop and you know, the doors about to open, 230 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: I just go, I want to tell you the people 231 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: sent in, and like the whole place went silent because 232 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: they're thinking, like there's a terrorist, there's a bomb, and 233 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: go how about their cowboys? We walk out the doors 234 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: closed and we're just like everyone's just giving us the 235 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: driving off. 236 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Good stop, good memory. Mark. All right, let's get to 237 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: the news. Alvin Kamara will be suspended for three games 238 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: for his role in a fight outside of Las Vegas 239 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: nightclub last year. He was facing felony charges, pleated that 240 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: down took care of the legal side. Now he's the 241 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: football side of it after a conversation with Roger Goodell 242 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: last week, so he's out of the picture greg for 243 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: three games. Jamal Williams is now stepping into a role 244 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: from Detroit last year where he set the team record 245 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: to really get his footing in this offense. I think 246 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: this is very good news for Jamal Williams, who gets 247 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: to start in a big time role with the rookie 248 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: behind him. 249 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: It's interesting they brought in Kareem Hunt for a workout 250 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: or a meeting on Monday, so this could be dated 251 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: or they might not sign him right away. I didn't 252 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 4: think that would that would necessary, and I don't think 253 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: it's a bad thing for Kamara to miss three games. 254 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: I think that was probably on the average or maybe 255 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 4: a little less than what people expected. And I did 256 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: notice over the weekend Nick Underhill, who does good work 257 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 4: for a New Orleans football dot com, like he had 258 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 4: an article where they have they have data, they have 259 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: censors on Alvin Kamara based on the work that he's 260 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 4: done this offseason. His burst is back. They can prove 261 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: it that he looks better, he looks different. I think 262 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 4: he's gonna have a monster year. 263 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: Well you've been You've been touting Kamara all off season, 264 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: so that's that's good evidence for you. 265 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: I list Rex's career is kind of hanging in the balance. 266 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: It is a little because we had our running back 267 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: you know, draft, and I thought that was a tough 268 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: moment for gressing we've been over that. 269 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. 270 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: I want to know what he talks about with Goodell, 271 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: because it's like, these suspensions come out one guy six games, 272 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: one guy three, someone else the entire season and like this, 273 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: like the actual variance of what occurred, like Alvin Kamara's 274 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 3: situation was not minor. No, I say, terrible look for 275 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: the league and for him, and he acknowledged that. And 276 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: it's like three games felt soft. I'm not trying to 277 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: like bang this hammer left and right, but it just 278 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: felt a little bit like people forget about these things 279 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: so quickly that the punishment's light, and we're talking about 280 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: how fast he is on a monitor. 281 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: I have something to be said there that it's interesting 282 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: to me, as people who covered the sport, what what 283 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: the media and what the public latches onto in terms 284 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: of outrage and anger and. 285 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: What another man like in a club does not get outrage. 286 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: It just does. 287 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: But I mean, that's not a it's not doesn't mean 288 00:12:58,920 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: it's excusable. 289 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: He suspended three games. But to your point, by the way, 290 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: it wasn't him taking It wasn't one. 291 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: On one a man squaring up with another man, and 292 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: in fistics, this was a beating by a group of 293 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: men that Kamara was a part of. It's kind of 294 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: a vile thing, but it's it's something that in general 295 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: people just move past. 296 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: I think taking accountability, settling the lawsuit, apologizing, saying it 297 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 4: was his fault and that he regrets it, that's fair. 298 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 4: I think that actually does probably knock a game off. 299 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 4: Maybe it shouldn't be like that, but if you compare 300 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 4: that to some thing like Deshaun Watson, where he never 301 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: really took accountability, He's still getting hugs from Goodell. So 302 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: maybe maybe it doesn't matter. I don't really know, but 303 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: I think that helped Kamara. 304 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: In this case, chiefs edge rusher Charles Amniheu was suspended 305 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: six games for violations of the Personal Conduct Policy. That 306 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,239 Speaker 1: suspension stem from a domestic violence incident in January. In January, 307 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: so that was, you know, along those same lines. This 308 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: is another violentce incident and the woman he signed it 309 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: to year sixteen million dollar contract at the time of 310 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: the situation. 311 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that is telling. I mean, I think 312 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: there would have there was some Deshaun Watson fatigue because 313 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: when this happened last year, the forty nine ers like well, 314 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 4: We're not worried about it. We don't think it's a 315 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 4: big deal. He ended up playing for them in the 316 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: playoffs after this incident, and you're right, it didn't get 317 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: much attention at all. It didn't hurt his money. I 318 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: think the NFL teams show you how seriously they take 319 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: it that he still got a really good contract. I 320 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: think the Chiefs are a little surprised actually that he 321 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: got suspended, because I don't know if they would have 322 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: given him all that money, and they are very thin 323 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: in terms of their pass rushers. It is not a 324 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: good pass rushing group, even with a menahu. 325 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that it may help move things along 326 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: with Chris Jones to some degree, but he was brought 327 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: in to essentially replace Frank Clark. I wonder if someone 328 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: like Carlos Dunlap, who was there a year ago, could 329 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: be brought in because I think I think Clowney right, 330 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: They would not think they thought six games was going 331 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: to be the result here. 332 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: No, it was so off the radar, and that's where 333 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: I think media coverage can make a difference. It was 334 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: so off the radar that, like the forty nine Ers, 335 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: didn't take any heat for playing him. In the in 336 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: the NFC Championship or anything like that. And the Chiefs 337 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 4: certainly didn't take any heat for this signing, and I 338 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 4: don't think it affected his money at all. But but 339 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: he's taking this. 340 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: This may interesting how it works. Janick and Gockway signs 341 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: a deal with the Chicago Bears. Nice money this late 342 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: one year, ten and a half million, ten million guaranteed 343 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: for a guy that had nineteen and a half sacks 344 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: over the last two seasons. Greg. That feels like I 345 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: know in Gockway's not the same guy was a few 346 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: years ago, but for a Bears team that could not 347 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback last year, a nice signing. Also. 348 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis the forever tight end. He latches on with 349 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: the Bears for another. 350 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: Ride from the two thousand and six draft. 351 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: Crazy MJD's pumped. 352 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: I think he was in the same draft class with mjd. 353 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: Am I crazy Yeah, with the Jaguars. 354 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: Yep. 355 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,119 Speaker 3: That's why every Sunday. 356 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Night watching it, marsides Lewis will be brought up in 357 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: some capacity as somebody that needs it. 358 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 4: His eighteenth tier. I love that the Bears did that. 359 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if I love in Gotway as a player, 360 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: He's not good as a run defender. They immediately said 361 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: he's playing every down, which says a lot about the 362 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: rest of the Bears defensive ends that he's but the 363 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: money says that too. But I hate unspent cap space. 364 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 4: I really think teams don't when you have too. There 365 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: is such a thing as too much cap space, and 366 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: they had too much going into this offseason. They've tried 367 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: to spend as much as they can, but I think 368 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: it makes their team better, So like, spend it. 369 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this got them to the floor. But 370 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: they this was you know, this is a team with holes. 371 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: But the pass rushing situation was pretty dire. I was 372 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: surprised they didn't go and he'd seeks some of the 373 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: guys we'll talk about in this new segment that has 374 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: signed somewhere else. I like in Gotway, But other than that, 375 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: you've got like DeMarcus Walker. It's a really young defense. 376 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: It's like Matt Eberflus is heading therefore another season. We're like, 377 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: you're meant to put a stamp on this side of 378 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: the ball, and that it was the opposite of that 379 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: happened last year. It's like, what I want to. I 380 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: think he's under a lot of pressure to show that 381 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: he's special. 382 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: I think they feel good about their linebackers and their secondary. 383 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: The secondary is pretty young, but you're right, they were 384 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: a terrible defense. 385 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: The Pro Football Hall of Fame. In other news, we 386 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: got to get out of the practice. But in other news, 387 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame welcome nine new players 388 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: to the club this weekend. Ronde bardber, Darrell Reeves, Ken Riley, 389 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: linebackers Chuck Howley, Cowboys great Zach Thomas, DeMarcus Ware, and 390 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, along with defensive lineman Joe Cleco of the Jets, 391 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: and coach Don Coriel, famous of the Air Coriel defense. 392 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: Let's listen to a couple quick soundbites, starting with Zach 393 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: Thomas on a player and a friend that he misses. 394 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: There's one person whose name up yet to mintion it. 395 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: His poster hung on my wall college, and he was 396 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: everything I wanted to be as a football player. He 397 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: was my inspiration. He became my teammate in fred. Though 398 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: he's not here physically, he's here in spirit into the 399 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: bust in that building behind me. I'm truly honored to 400 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: join him. Junior say he love you, buddy. 401 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: M very sad and uh. Also connecting the uh the 402 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: past with his induction was Darrel Reeves, Jets great Patriots 403 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl winner. 404 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 8: I didn't get the chance to play with this guy 405 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 8: named Deon Sanders, but he was a prototype for me. 406 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 8: What Jordan is to Kobe is prom to Revis Island. 407 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 8: You came first, and I wanted. 408 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: To play just like. 409 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 8: You were to roll map to greatness. 410 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: You gotta be giving in Canton to be able to 411 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: just connect yourself to all those great players. 412 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: Another forum, I would bump up. I mean not if 413 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 3: someone else came up with that out of thin air, 414 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 3: I would have a problem with it. 415 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 4: But Darrel Revis, Okay, this is funny. When he mentioned 416 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: the Patriots quickly and did the crowd just booze Jets fans. 417 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 4: There's not Patriots fans there. It was kind of like 418 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: a funny I wouldn't say side plot, but it was 419 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: like I saw in the NBC coverage of the Hall 420 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: of Fame game, uh when they were interviewing before the game, 421 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 4: because it was like Rodney Harrison and Devin mccordy and 422 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: they're kind of giving him some grief about the Patriots 423 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: and he's feeling he's feeling awkward with that, and then 424 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 4: there's just like a and I think they were almost 425 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: being Rodney had a tone where he's almost being a 426 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 4: jerk about it. It's like no where it was like, 427 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: you know, don't forget it, Jets fans essentially that that 428 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 4: he got his ring with that where Reeves is like, 429 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: come on, bro, like that's why I was just playing. 430 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: But he did play great for the Patriots, which I 431 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: think actually was an important not that he wasn't gonna 432 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: make the Hall of Fame, but I think it was 433 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: an important coda to his career because Bucksy was underrated, 434 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 4: but it was a little up and down and he 435 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 4: did have one more great year, which is something you 436 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: see with a lot of these Hall of famers where 437 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: there's that one year like ten years in where they 438 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: remind you of why he was so great. And that 439 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 4: was him in New England. 440 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I have to talk about his Jet's 441 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: career then if we're going to talk about that, just 442 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: because the way we. 443 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: Got ceede lambwalking right by the said here, wow, looks 444 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 3: like action hero. 445 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: Watch him in his prime that eight to twelve when 446 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: he hurt his knee. I'll never forget it. He's his 447 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: ability to shut down the best player in the field 448 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: just changed everything for Rex Ryan and that defense. And 449 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: I'll always remember the first year of Rex when they 450 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: seemed like they were out of the playoffs. And Rex 451 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: even came out after a bad Week sixteen loss and said, well, 452 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: we're done. The season's over. And then a bunch of 453 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: things broke their way and they had a chance to 454 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: make the playoffs if they beat Cincinnati on Sunday Night football. 455 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: And this is when Chad Johnson, Chad Ochocinco was seen 456 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: as one of the great players, and Revas just erased 457 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: him from that game. Then they had a rematch against 458 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: Cincinnati the next week and he erased o cho Cinco again. 459 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: And he just did that regularly. It didn't matter. There 460 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: was no guy that always got the better of Durell Reevas, and. 461 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: Stevie Johnson sort of famously was the one guy who 462 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 4: would give him trouble. Just like, I don't know what 463 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 4: the hell Stevie Johnson's gonna do. He just makes stuff 464 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: up as he goes along. 465 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: The playoff win over the Bengals was a high point 466 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 3: for the Jets, I thought, because the Bengals did not 467 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: take them seriously at all and they steamrolled them. 468 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: Well, beating the Bengals in the playoffs is something everybody 469 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: gets to do, you know, or used to be able to. Finally, Zach, 470 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: excuse me, finally, Joe Thomas, Colleen Wolf's friend and Brown's great. 471 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 9: With that said, it's the greatest honor of my career 472 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 9: to be able to accept this lifetime award on behalf 473 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 9: of all of Brown's nation. 474 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 10: Hype down, Mark, Cleveland, you could always count on me. 475 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 10: Thank you so much for allowing me to count on you. 476 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 10: Don't forget to keep showing up for each other. God 477 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 10: bless the Cleveland Browns. 478 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 9: God bless America, and God bless football, the greatest game 479 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 9: of all. 480 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark. They're calling you. They're calling you home. 481 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: Joe Thomas, someone I would all out to guide me. 482 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: You can go home. Here are the angels, the sirens 483 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: waving you. 484 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: But Ria, okay, so hope, by hope, you don't mean 485 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: like the afterlife, you mean the Browns. 486 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah it sounds the latter sounds more comforting, But uh, 487 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't think being coerced into 488 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 3: it is the is the organic way. 489 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: There's no no, not at all. He said. He said 490 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: it himself. Joe Thomas said, stay together, stick together. 491 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 3: Separate from all of that, Separate from that Tom foolery. 492 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: Like Joe Thomas, you know, we know him a little bit. 493 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: He's been on our show, Like I texted him just 494 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 3: to say, like, the one thing I think about him 495 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: is like we got to know him a little bit 496 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: more as a person as a broadcaster. And I know 497 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: Colleen like thinks the absolute world of him, and he 498 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: brought her into like his fold of like all these 499 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: x NFL linemen hanging out drinking, eating steaks, drinking beers, 500 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 3: and like, Joe Thomas is a great guy who I 501 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 3: hope continues to do television and broadcasting and used his 502 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: creativity for a long time. Because it's like he started 503 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 3: out as his player that log ten thousand plus consecutive snaps, 504 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 3: never let anyone down. I've never done ten thousand things 505 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: in a row. Who else has. And he's a special, 506 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: special player and a good. 507 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: Dude, greatest Brown of the last what twenty five years? 508 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 3: He was also great from his first ever game, like 509 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: it never there's no growth process. He was great right away. 510 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: It's it's crazy because he really made he really talked 511 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: about all the different quarterbacks he had, and that he 512 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: literally said during his speech how he ended his career 513 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: on a one and thirty one heater, and it was like, wow, 514 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: it is really it's actually really unique to be like 515 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: a first ballot, upper tier Hall of Famer, no doubt 516 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: about it, and associated with losing like it's it's a 517 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: fascinating and he he like took it in such a 518 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 4: I don't know, like such a It didn't seemed to 519 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: bring him down at all, which is a credit to 520 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: the man. I do have one like turn in the 521 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 4: punch bowl take on the Hall of Fame, because I'm 522 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame. I would love to be 523 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 4: you are, so I would like to be a voter. 524 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 4: I have thoughts, and I don't know what the solution 525 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: is here. There's there's too much posthumous guys getting in. 526 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: And I don't mean that they don't deserve to get in. 527 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 4: I mean this is like the greatest moment in their careers, 528 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 4: even posthumously and for their families, and it should be 529 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: a moment of celebration. And I kept thinking, because you know, 530 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 4: Ken Riley is no longer with us. The Bengals cornerback 531 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: Don coriol Chuck Howley is alive but wasn't able to 532 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 4: speak just because of medical stuff. And I'm thinking, like 533 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 4: this was so bittersweet for all of their families and everyone. 534 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: It's not it was it was a celebration, but they're 535 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 4: also like really sad about it and I and I'm 536 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: not saying you shouldn't like let them in. I'm saying 537 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 4: like they should come up with the way that like 538 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: the same amount of people should be getting in, but 539 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: do it early, because this is it's like a celebration 540 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 4: for the living. I honestly think like it's a little 541 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 4: bit of an issue when. 542 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: For the remaining family does get So I understand what 543 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: you're saying. 544 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 4: I'm not saying don't do it. I'm I'm almost trying 545 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 4: to speak for them because hearing them talk about it too, 546 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 4: they say it's better sweet. It's like the definition of 547 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: better street that they can't be there. 548 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: I think the problem with that, because I know you can. 549 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 4: Getting the Veterans Committee is guys, maybe a little earlier 550 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 4: in the process, there's nobody here. 551 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: It's better that they should be celebrated as a dead 552 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: person than a living person. So that that's I get, 553 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: we all get that, but like there's a bottleneck because 554 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: even if you look at the next year's eligible class, 555 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: it's guys that we literally covered on this show. It's 556 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: like there's so many eligible people. It's like you just 557 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: need to you because when when we were growing up, 558 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: you'd let like five people into the Hall of Fame 559 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: every year, and there was a lot of diminished smaller 560 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: class is now you're adding categories, new items in the 561 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: classes are getting bigger and bigger, so you just have 562 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: to This. 563 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 4: Is a lot of people take this very seriously, and 564 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: I wonder if anyone with the like whether they've thought 565 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 4: about logistical things they can do, which is basically just 566 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: shortened the period from when you're like a eligible person 567 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: the first time round and the veterans shorten it up. 568 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: This better be gregor what is this We're going to heaven, 569 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 4: We're gonna go to cowboys practice. 570 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: Sirens leave them alone? Or is this maybe to your point, 571 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: it's hard to say. 572 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 11: Yeah, eight o'clock, delight, Oh no, Logan Wilson, Cam Jordan 573 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 11: and Malie Cooker, who's out on the field right now. 574 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 4: The safety for the Cowboys all got contract extensions this weekend. 575 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 4: I love that Logan Wilson deal, and Cam Jordan I 576 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: think that's his fourth contract. 577 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: I mean the Bengals under Louin Oramo and keeping Logan Wilson, 578 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 3: keeping Jermaine Pratt, there's consistency. I love that for this 579 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: team that. 580 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: I thought he was the best free agent linebacker that 581 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 4: was going to be available. Justin Houston to the Panthers. 582 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 3: What's this doing at eight o'clock? He can still play? 583 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 4: Figure, We got to get moving. Broncos have had a 584 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: lot of injuries. Jonas Griffith, who's a rotational linebacker but 585 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 4: a contributor for them, and then Riley Moss, a rookie 586 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: who's maybe going to start at cornerback. Both out Griffith 587 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 4: for the season, Moss for at least. Jeff Acuda, the 588 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 4: cornerback for the Falcons out at least. 589 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: You cannot get it going. Jeff Cuda, the former first 590 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: round pick of the line's trying to start over All right, 591 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. All right, boys, it's 592 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: time for us to hit the practice field where the 593 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys are doing their thing. We'll come back here, talk 594 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: to some players, share some takeaways. That sounds like a 595 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: good plant. Mark, is this is a good plan. 596 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: I think it's a master plan. 597 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 4: Good might suit you up. Put you out there with 598 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: the third string. 599 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: I did taking a look at the current players, and 600 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a great idea for me. 601 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: Well, men, all right, let's see if Mark and get 602 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: out there and still play the guitar. But before that, 603 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: I want to tell you something. Promo time Football is 604 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: back in NFL Network has every preseason game, including twenty 605 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: three live big names putting new cities on their backs, 606 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: a new class putting their names on the map. Listen 607 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: to this. Your team is back in action. It's time 608 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: for football. The NFL preseason August tenth through the twenty 609 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: sixth on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus. All right, 610 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll be right back. 611 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: All right. 612 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Just off the practice field is the great 613 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: linebacker of the Dallas Cowboys, Layton vander esh Layton. Welcome 614 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: to around the NFL. Another w for the d in practice. 615 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 12: Today, Yeah, I mean it was. It felt like it 616 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 12: was a pretty even practice today. It was fun. I 617 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 12: mean they got theirs and we got ours. But that's 618 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 12: what makes practice fun is is you know when when 619 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 12: you got a good team, I mean, it's battling back 620 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 12: and forth and then they're gonna get something, We're gonna 621 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 12: get some. So it makes the atmosphere fun and everybody's 622 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 12: flying around having fun. 623 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if we've ever had an athlete a 624 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: player right off the field. You still got the gloves 625 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 4: on the cleat the pads. Are you a little worried? 626 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: Like it's a it's too intimidating for sitting next to 627 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: Mark here, who. 628 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: Was a former you're intimidating. 629 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was a former player. 630 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: In like nineteen ninety one in pee wee football. But 631 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: he did play, Yeah, renowned. He's like, how do I 632 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: answer that question? Wasn't any Let me ask you this, 633 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. So the stan Quinn defense 634 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: really balled out last year. Okay, where do you think 635 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys stand in that conversation of the best defense? 636 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Do you think it gets overlooked a little bit when 637 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: they talk about it. 638 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 12: I mean, we're focused on proving ourselves every single day, 639 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 12: so it really doesn't matter what we did last year 640 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 12: or the year before. We're trying to better that and 641 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 12: be absolutely elite this year. So but we have to 642 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 12: come out here and put in the work every single 643 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 12: day to do that. So we can talk about it 644 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 12: all I want, but at the end of the day, 645 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 12: it don't matter, and that's not what we're focused on. 646 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 12: We're focused on being the best version of ourselves. And 647 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 12: as a cruise of defense. 648 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: About a week ago, this video surface of Digs and 649 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: Dak getting into it in the end zone and like, 650 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: I you know the thing. It annoyed me and annoyed 651 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: all of us. Just like the next day on all 652 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: the talking head shows, everyone's asking, is this an issue? 653 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: Can you just clear up? Like in training camp, you've 654 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: been doing this for weeks. It's hot out. You guys 655 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: are challenging each other. Don't These things happen all the time, 656 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: and you just move on with it. 657 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 12: Every day probably every minute occurrence in practice. 658 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 6: It's normal. 659 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: So two football guys, it's. 660 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: Just want to clear up that. Well used to I 661 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: saw you guys getting after a little bit today. You 662 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: were coming off the edge a lot. You've you've been 663 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: kind of an off ball linebacker mostly, but just at 664 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 4: least in this practice, we were watching you mostly coming 665 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: off the edge. Is that a different role for you? 666 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: What are you doing? 667 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 668 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 12: Really just trying to grow my game and just being born. 669 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 12: Just keep growing in any area I can just keep developing. 670 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 12: I mean, adding tools to your toolbox. It's super important 671 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 12: in this game and obviously it can make it tough 672 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 12: on a lot of other offenses. So, uh, just trying 673 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 12: to better myself as an individual player so it betters 674 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 12: the defense. 675 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: I'm curious, like you're kind of the quarterback of that defense. 676 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: You've been with this defense now a long time. Looking 677 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: at the Eagles in your division, obviously that that's a 678 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: team that that got to where you guys want to 679 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 4: go to last year the super Bowl. When when you're 680 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: watching them, when you're on the field against them, are 681 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 4: you more worried about like what are they going to 682 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: do next and trying to figure out what they are 683 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: going to do? Or are you more worried about just 684 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 4: you know what they're going to do, but they just 685 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: do it so well, how do we stop them? 686 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 12: I'm really worried about what we're doing because I know 687 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 12: that if all eleven guys on our team and on 688 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 12: our side of the ball are doing what they're supposed 689 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 12: to be doing. Nobody's gonna beat us. So, uh, it's 690 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 12: focusing on ourselves. 691 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: Really about like during a practice like today or maybe 692 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: even in a real game, does your mind ever drift 693 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: and you're just thinking about like like tacos or Xbox 694 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: or other things, or you're just like a robot? Are 695 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: you like super laser focused NonStop? 696 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 12: You try, you try as much as you can to 697 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 12: be as laser focus as you can. Your mind might 698 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 12: drift here and there. Uh maybe if you're like if 699 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 12: you just subbed out or something. But I mean that's 700 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 12: what's important, is if you can realize that and bring 701 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 12: yourself back in in and lock back in. That's the 702 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 12: important thing. You gotta be able to catch yourself in 703 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 12: those moments. It doesn't matter if you're tired, doesn't matter 704 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 12: if you're thinking about anything else. You got to bring 705 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 12: yourself real yourself back in and lock in every single 706 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 12: play because those those are mental reps that you can 707 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 12: get on the side. Every every rep during practice is 708 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 12: your rep, regardless of whether you're on the field or 709 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 12: whether you're on the side. 710 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: Like, I get that, but the this news for the Yeah, 711 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: Mark's actually been thinking about tacos the whole time. 712 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: You ran so last question because you know you're a 713 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: busy guy and fresh out the practice field. I I 714 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: got to make it any question, it's important and it counts. 715 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking at your cleats again. You're in full uniform. Uh, 716 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: you're a gridiron warrior. There's a rip in the cleats. 717 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: Do those dis peer forever now? Or do you do 718 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: you have lucky cleats or cleats that you were attached 719 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: to or is that it for these now? 720 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 4: Well? 721 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 12: I just broke these in so and I got a 722 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 12: last practice, so I'm gonna keep warring. 723 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh you ride with them? Yep? Well again, Mark, you 724 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: can relate, I know. 725 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: The less and less of a degree. 726 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: Yes, Leyden vander Esh, thank you so much for giving 727 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: us a few minutes here and best of luck in 728 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. 729 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 6: Thank you, guys. 730 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate it all right. There he goes a tight 731 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: five with Layton vander Ash Mark, a little too much 732 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: callbacks to your your playing days are not enough? 733 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 3: No, I thought it was far too many. And I 734 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: think we threw him off off key a little bit 735 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: with that, But that's okay. I think he underneath it 736 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: understood this guy did play roughly two and a half 737 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: decades ago. 738 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: Maybe that you this guy, you made it very clear. 739 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 3: You made it I think you made the situation extremely clear, 740 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: and I think he'd be painted a fair picture of 741 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: that I played irrelevantly as a youth. 742 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: He he reminds me of a player that you could 743 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 4: imagine playing twenty thirty years ago in the eighties or nineties. 744 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 4: He always he always had that he has the neck role. 745 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 4: I think that was because of his injury concerns. But 746 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 4: I always think of West when I think of Layton 747 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 4: vander ash Yes, he was so in on that rookie season. 748 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith too, the two of them together. 749 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 4: Of Layton Evander Uff and he's a good example of 750 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: man NFL careers. Like he's only been in the league 751 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 4: since twenty eighteen, but he's had ups, he's had downs, 752 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 4: he's had injuries, and it's cool to see him established 753 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 4: now he's one of the leaders of this team. 754 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: I mean, going into last year, it seemed like maybe 755 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: he was already part of their past in terms of 756 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: being an impact player. And then he has a really 757 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: nice bounce back season and he's an important guy and 758 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: maybe we'll start. We'll start there as we you know, 759 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: we were on the practice field. Very cool, it was 760 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: very good vibes on the field, you know, we got 761 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: we got to watch some of the defensive drills and 762 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: we went and saw really good long eleven on eleven 763 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys offense with Dak and the first team 764 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: really matching up against the defense. And we talked to 765 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: Clarence Hills, covered the Cowboys forever and he said, it's 766 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: been the defense most days and this this day was 767 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: the offense was better. And yet Greg, it seemed very 768 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: hard for the offense to move the ball against Van 769 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: der Rush and this defense. And in the practice that 770 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: we saw. 771 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess at the very beginning like they hit 772 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 4: a mojo moment, so that's a that's a big spot 773 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 4: for them. And in the run game had some moments, 774 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 4: but they just couldn't protect Dak Prescott. He didn't have 775 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb out there. But it like looked like the 776 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 4: forty nine Ers playoff game because within two seconds of 777 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 4: every single one of these plays, he's facing an incredible 778 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 4: amount of pressure and they're not holding anything back. Dan 779 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: Quinn is showing a ton of different formations Parsons is 780 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 4: all over the field. I mentioned how Van Rush is 781 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 4: on the edge and they're winning time after time after 782 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 4: If we had all the time in the world, like 783 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 4: I would want to ask, like offensively, like are you 784 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 4: getting sick of Michael Parsons because he was in the backfield, 785 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 4: he would have had three or four sacks in the 786 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 4: plays that we watch. 787 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then then you go face lesser defenses, and 788 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 3: I think all this work, as you know, has a 789 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: huge benefit on the offense. But you're right, I thought 790 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: for chunks of the of the of the session, they 791 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: weren't really trying to test the ball deep. They didn't 792 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: have CD. They were working on a lot of like 793 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: throwing to running backs and doing stuff over the middle. 794 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 3: But the one thing about being at these practices on 795 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: the sideline and you're you know, they're they're catching a 796 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 3: screener and coming within two feet of you, and it's 797 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: like you get a sense for how massive and gigantic 798 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: these people are. And like the Cowboys defense to me, 799 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: especially physically, looks so intense. And it was these practices 800 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 3: like they've been heated. We knew that there had been 801 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 3: fights and stuff before, and like today it was just 802 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 3: like kind of an eye open and to see how 803 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 3: hard they were going at each other. 804 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 4: I just don't. All I was thinking was like, don't 805 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 4: come this way, don't come this way, because there was 806 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 4: a couple of times where the guys come hard and 807 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 4: and at that point there's you're if you're in the 808 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 4: wrong spot, you you're you're making headlines, you're getting you're 809 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 4: getting tweets. It's you're living. You're living that down. So 810 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 4: we survived. 811 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,959 Speaker 1: I saddled up next to Marrow and I did throw 812 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: out a hypothetical to Mark, what would happen if there 813 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: was a collision on the sideline. You get hit, You 814 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: just get caught in the wrong spot of the arm. 815 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: There's some nerve damage. There's only so much doctors can 816 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: do at this time in terms of modern medicine and science. 817 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: You lose the arm. I mean, is it you want 818 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: to live at that point because you have to tell 819 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: that story for the rest of time. 820 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 3: That you lost the answer your question, yes, that's your answer, right, 821 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: It's a bolittle in scenario, I would essentially turn around 822 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 3: immediately and sue the cowboys and see what I can 823 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: get out of it financially. 824 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: That's definitely. I'm sure we'll get a credential next year. 825 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: After that, I would possibly walk into the ocean with 826 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: a minus arm. I just don't want to tell that story. 827 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 3: There's no way the story is going to make anyone 828 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 3: more impressed with you. 829 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: No, Greg, Greg seems to think that, you know, it's 830 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: something that he could tell with pride. I don't know. 831 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: It's not so much to that, but I still believe 832 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 4: I would have a lot to live for. It was 833 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 4: just bad luck. Ultimately, maybe wouldn't take. 834 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 5: Know. 835 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 4: I've got my children to think about. Uh, but I 836 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 4: was worried. 837 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: What about your pride, Greg, I have. 838 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 4: No I have no pride, lack pride. I was thinking, 839 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 4: like watching that practice, duce Vaughan is an inspiration for 840 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 4: for anyone like myself five six and under to be 841 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 4: out there. And they they popped some running plays. They 842 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 4: were getting excited. You could tell they actually took advantage 843 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 4: of parsons aggressiveness on one play and actually did pop 844 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 4: a nice running play. But asking duce Vaughan to pass 845 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 4: protected he was, he was there with those, he was 846 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 4: there with the starters, and he did okay on a few. 847 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 4: But then there were a couple that were like, Okay, 848 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 4: this is what training camp is for. You're trying it out, 849 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 4: but I don't know if you want him protecting Dak 850 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 4: Prescott on Sunday. 851 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 3: He's a fan favorite, though we'll see where we are 852 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 3: not show. 853 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: There's an unnamed person who told us that it's you 854 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: want to get him on video and share it as 855 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: much as possible. It's called Deuce porn because people just 856 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: like to see a guy that little yeah to thrive 857 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: on the football field. And you did a great point 858 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: on that that you heard the player is whooping it 859 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: up on some of those running plays. Duce included, because 860 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: everything you read from the Beat report is that the 861 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 1: defense has been winning, and seeing my camparsons up close, 862 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: it's like, uh, listen, like we don't know where he's 863 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: gonna come down in the end. But the LT comparisons 864 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: aren't off base at this point based on what he's 865 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: done so far and the way the Beat writers talk 866 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: about him. It's in hush tones, like he's literally ruining 867 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: practice for the offense because they're just trying to get 868 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: their feet wet and he's living in the backfield. So 869 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: watching his combination of size and speed, everybody looks big 870 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: and fast here when you're here, especially if you don't 871 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: cover these teams day to day, like we don't do that. 872 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: But he stands out even more as just like this freak. 873 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of cool to see it up close. 874 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 3: No their defense, I mean it looks to be like 875 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 3: picking up where it left off. I'll tell you one 876 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 3: other person that kind of changed my mind about them 877 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 3: little bit, Jerry Jones. Like, I mean, every time I 878 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 3: looked to he's up in a like a state. We 879 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: were taking photos with tons of people who's walking guests 880 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: around like the fans were going crazy for him. I 881 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 3: mean I just say, like there's owners that like they're 882 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 3: billionaires and they vanished and like the football side of it. 883 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: Oh, but he loves it more than anyone. 884 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 3: He's up in the tower like pointing out he. 885 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: He lives for this. This is the world that he built. 886 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: I was impressed by because he's I think in his 887 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: eighties now. At one point I saw him on the 888 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: far side of one of the two practice fields here 889 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: and then I walked the corner and I came down 890 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: the sideline towards where they were doing the eleven on 891 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: eleven and Gerald was up in the tower right, which 892 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: was easily one hundred yards away, and then an elevator 893 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: or five flights of steps. How did he do it? 894 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. Not a small guy either, former former 895 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 4: you know cola, former D one athlete. 896 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Any other takeaways from practice? I got 897 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: I got one. I posted it on a x or X. 898 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: It's really hard, it's tough. It's tough sitch, tough stitch 899 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: for the journalism community. Dak unfurled a beautiful deep ball 900 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: that wasn't brought in. But as good as the running 901 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: game was, like everything everything was checked down and short 902 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: and everything was covered. So I do think there's so 903 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: much with the Cowboys. There's so much coverage of Dak, 904 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: the darkness of it all, and the offense and the 905 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: narrative around the team and the failure to step up 906 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: in big moments in January that the defense and vander 907 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: Esh go under the radar a little bit. Parsons not 908 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: so much. But the defense has a chance to really 909 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: carry this team as much as the offense. 910 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 4: I know. You just line it up and I would 911 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 4: say the Cowboys or the forty nine ers should be 912 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 4: the best defense in the league. 913 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 7: Now. 914 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 4: Defense is very hard to predict. But to me, those 915 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 4: are the two teams going into the season that I 916 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 4: would go with because Parsons like, yeah, he's had an 917 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 4: all time great start to his career, but he was 918 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 4: like playing another position, like he didn't even really know 919 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 4: how to be an edge rusher. He was still playing 920 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 4: off ball linebacker at this point in practice a year 921 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 4: ago at this time, And like the sound that everything 922 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 4: that's coming out around him and how he's shown up 923 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 4: to this camp sounds like he's maybe at another level. 924 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 4: And him at another level with four or five defensive 925 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: ends behind him that are really good in a really 926 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 4: good secondary, they've got them all locked up. We mentioned 927 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 4: the Molie Cooker. I just think this defense is loaded. 928 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 4: And I talked to Michael Galkin, who's covered this team 929 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 4: for a while now, used to cover the Chargers, now 930 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 4: the Cowboys. He said this is easily the best team 931 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 4: he thinks he's ever covered between those Chargers teams and 932 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 4: the Cowboys teams over the last time year. 933 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 3: And the offense is going through I know it's still 934 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy. It's gonna be more similar than a complete, 935 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: like basic change on offense, but that's still a transition, 936 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 3: but it's another year in dan Quinn's defense. And it's 937 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 3: like Vanderesh talked about adding stuff to his game, adding 938 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 3: stuff to what he can do, and it's like they're 939 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 3: gonna do that with all these guys. They just look 940 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 3: completely cohesive. 941 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: It's cool seeing up close practice what these teams work 942 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: on because they have to be ready. Up here comes 943 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: Jared red Pie. They have to be eddie for you know, 944 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: you got a little wave, so Jerry Jones. 945 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 6: Just walked by. 946 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 4: It was like a low, a fist wave and it 947 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 4: was just kind of like a point the point. 948 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: Do you think he. 949 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 3: Recognized No, absolutely not unless the time that I approached 950 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 3: him at the coat combat on TV. 951 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 4: And there's a chance, I mean, there's an outside chance 952 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 4: he saw the NFL plus polos that we're wearing. But 953 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 4: I think it's more likely that I kind of pointed 954 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 4: to him first. I looked for the the I think recognition. 955 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: I think I think that's what I think. 956 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 3: It's very interesting to hear everyone's takeaways on this particular situation. 957 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 4: He's just like I was a big fan of the 958 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 4: end around back in the day. 959 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: We've accomplished a lot of NFL media, and he is 960 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 1: like he's got his fingers and everything that's fair. 961 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 4: Maybe he knows the podcast. 962 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: Well, he knows me, so I wanted to say, Yeah, 963 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: it's crazy seeing it up close. The they have drills 964 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: to react the defense, how to react to a loose ball. 965 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: They're doing scoopid scores and seeing how everybody even has 966 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,280 Speaker 1: a role with that that you're trained to be ready 967 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: for those scenarios. 968 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 3: And like a six foot eight three and twenty pound 969 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 3: guys rumbling into the end zone scoring a touchdown. 970 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: He're very happy about it. And they even build in 971 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: a TV time out. You hear on the on the 972 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 1: sound system. It's like these guys then take the break 973 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: because they're trying to simulate these things. Be ready. One 974 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: other thing. We got Michael Gallup coming up. I have 975 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: one more thing. You guys want to throw out anything, 976 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: please do. Brian Schottenheimer will always be thirty one years old. 977 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 1: He's got to be in his mid forties. Very vivacious. 978 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 3: I think he learned some secrets from Peake Carroll. You know, 979 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 3: he was out there chopping it up. 980 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 4: That's the first time vivacious has not been used to 981 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 4: like describe a young woman and I appreciate it. I 982 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 4: think we should ungender vivacious. 983 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: You have to be. You have to have a certain 984 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: level ungender vivacious. We will. Let's make a note of that. 985 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: You have to do to wear the visor backwards. I 986 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: think it was that upside down to. 987 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 3: He's been doing that for a lot. 988 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, to do that move when you are 989 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: in your fourth decade, it takes a little bit of 990 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: It takes a little nerds and he does it. 991 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 3: His father had some fire, and I see it in him. 992 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 4: He's putting the nard in ox nerd. 993 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 3: Here's another little takeaway. By the way, these refs are 994 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 3: in summer shape out here. We put the nards in 995 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 3: ox nerd. 996 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 1: Around the NFL. There's a cell eric anything else. 997 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 4: I think we covered it all right. 998 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: With that said, we saw that the defensive side of 999 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: the ball were talking about Layton vander ash Now let's 1000 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: talk about a very important piece of the offense. Michael Gallup. 1001 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: Hit it all right. Our next guest is a very 1002 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: important piece of the puzzle for the Cowboys in twenty 1003 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty three, wide receiver Michael Gallup. Welcome to Around the NFL. 1004 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate you having. 1005 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: So happy to have you. Michael. This is read about it. 1006 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: You're a full year, another year removed from knee surgery 1007 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: and you say that your mental game, mentally, you're all 1008 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: the way back. I was curious, as like a professional athlete, 1009 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: what was it last year that just felt different? And 1010 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: how are things in a different place now? In a 1011 00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: better place? 1012 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 6: I think just coming off you know, really, any injury, 1013 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 6: you gotta you gotta make sure that you have your 1014 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 6: mentals right. I mean, everybody says they're good, you know, 1015 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 6: but there's always something a little bit up under the 1016 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 6: table that you're not trying to express to everybody. But 1017 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 6: that was that was my big problem. I said that 1018 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 6: was good mentally I really wasn't. But physically I knew 1019 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 6: I was good, so I could go out there and 1020 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 6: do enough. But you know, it wasn't enough to be 1021 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 6: out there, you know, I shouldn't have been playing like that. 1022 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're in a better kind of 1023 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: a good spot here because they're bringing Brandon Cooks obviously 1024 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: CDs here and now you're feeling better physically and mentally, 1025 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: and maybe they're not expecting as much on the outside 1026 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: and it kind of sets you up nice to surprise 1027 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: some people. 1028 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, definitely. I mean that's how it's kind of 1029 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 6: always been, you know, all my years here playing for 1030 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 6: the Cowboys. Uh just kind of been that, you know, 1031 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 6: third wide receiver, a little outlier. But I mean if 1032 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 6: they get doubled, I mean I gotta be one on one. 1033 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 6: So that's that's easy pickings for me. 1034 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 4: I was watching you out there in practice today and 1035 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 4: I was wondering who who would you rather go against? 1036 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 4: And what's the difference when you're lying up across from 1037 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 4: either Trayvon Diggs or Stefan Gilmore. 1038 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 6: I'm rather go against Trey Stefine. He just too smart. 1039 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 6: He calls out to play before you even line up. 1040 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 6: You know, it's pretty tricky playing with him. But they're 1041 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 6: both good competition, either one of them. I like going 1042 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 6: up against either one of the great football players just 1043 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 6: helped me get better. 1044 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 4: He Trayvon sounds like he talks a lot to you, Tie, 1045 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 4: do you talk back? 1046 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 6: Trayvon talks more to that. He doesn't really talk to 1047 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 6: a lot. 1048 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 3: We learned that like these camps, like you know, I know, 1049 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 3: it's been a grind at this point, you've been there 1050 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 3: for a long time. They always talk about it being 1051 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 3: you go away you guys at a special team that 1052 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 3: goes to a completely different part of the country. You're 1053 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 3: hanging out together all the time. Is it like a 1054 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 3: bonding experience or are you kind of like, I love 1055 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 3: you guys, but I need to have some of my 1056 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 3: own time. Like what does the rest of the day 1057 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 3: look like? Can you get away you bring in your 1058 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 3: own bed. 1059 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean McCarthy actually does it pretty well for us. 1060 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 6: He sets it up to where it's like, you know, 1061 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 6: we're not just in meetings till ten pm at night 1062 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 6: and stuff like that. He's done, you know, as he's 1063 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 6: done figured it out that you don't have to be 1064 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 6: a means, you know, twenty four, so that everybody needs 1065 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 6: their own time to recover, you know, have their own space. 1066 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 6: So I definitely just go back to my room because 1067 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 6: I know I'm gonna be with you, you know, at seven 1068 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 6: in the morning again all the way till about six. 1069 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 3: What do you do in the reading books? Playing games, 1070 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 3: like talking to people on the phone. 1071 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 6: Mine's more, you know, Colin family and stuff, checking in 1072 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 6: on everybody. 1073 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 4: This is definitely coming from Marks, like he's imagining himself 1074 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 4: as a player and he was a former player, you 1075 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 4: know in pee wee, because he would be trying to 1076 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 4: get away from us. It would be too much time 1077 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 4: with his coworkers. He would just be like hiding out 1078 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 4: in the room. 1079 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was definitely understandable. I can't hear it. 1080 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 4: There's always a couple of things. 1081 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 1: Does Mike McCarthy allow guys to like ship in their 1082 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 1: own beds and stuff? Is that happened with this team? 1083 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 6: I doubt it? 1084 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 1: And you know, this is that show why the Cowboys 1085 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: are a team to reckon with, because we'll sleep in 1086 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: like the beds that are uncomfortable. 1087 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 4: Here because it's not a dorm, it's a hotel. 1088 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 6: It's not too at least it's not like a bunk 1089 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 6: bed or anything. 1090 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 8: You know. 1091 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 6: Me, I can get my own room now. So you 1092 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 6: know we're up there a little bit. 1093 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 4: Who did you grow up rooting for? Were you a 1094 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 4: football fan? Nah? 1095 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 6: I really just for players. I love watching Calvin Johnson. Uh, 1096 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 6: definitely Julio Jones, Crumpler to be honest and Crumpler. 1097 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, well that wouldn't kind of snuck up like 1098 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 4: did the Cowboys ever get on your radar when you 1099 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 4: were like a kid, as like Why Why did the 1100 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 4: cowboys get so much attention? So you hear too much 1101 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 4: about these cowboys. 1102 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 6: I was doing too much other stuff. I wasn't even 1103 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 6: really playing sports when I was little. He was out 1104 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 6: there on the farm. I was fishing. I was doing 1105 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 6: all types of stuff. I wouldn't really into sports like that. 1106 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: Wow, what is your What is your I know it's 1107 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: a long way off hopefully, but your post NFL life? 1108 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: Is it back to the farm? 1109 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 6: Post NFL life? Yeah, I'm probably gonna be a pro 1110 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 6: fisherman to be like wow, fly fisher. No, No, just 1111 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 6: straight bad. I didn't do that fly. That's too much 1112 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,479 Speaker 6: work for no reason. 1113 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 4: That's why I always say, like with these parents that 1114 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 4: have their kids in one sport all the time, and 1115 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 4: it's just like focus. It's like if you're if you're 1116 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 4: good enough to be a pro athlete, you can just 1117 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 4: be like Michael Gallup, not caring about sports, not playing sports, 1118 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 4: out there fishing, and then you'll end up in the 1119 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 4: pros anyway. 1120 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 3: Are you are you anti form now at this point? 1121 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 3: Are you just saying you don't you know, want to 1122 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 3: make that the center. 1123 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 6: Of her I can't be anti farm. My sister has 1124 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 6: like four hundred acres back home in Georgia. So it's 1125 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 6: like when I go home, that's that's the only. 1126 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna set up like a point counterpoint Michael Galb 1127 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: versus Willie Nelson on farm life and the future of 1128 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,439 Speaker 1: it in this country. U Michael, Uh can't wait see 1129 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 1: back on the field to get I feel good legit. 1130 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: Not just because he's here. Michael Galb is having a 1131 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: big year this year and is going to be a 1132 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: major reason the Cowboys are going to be better on 1133 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: offense this year. Good luck to you. 1134 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 4: Good sir, Yes, sir, thank you so much. Thanks Michael, 1135 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 4: There he goes. 1136 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: You know, Greg, I personally had made the decision to 1137 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: not bring up Mark Sessler's playing days after we hit 1138 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,439 Speaker 1: it hard with Vandersch. But you went right back at 1139 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: it and and and you could tell Sessler's getting a 1140 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: little agitated. I said, you're playing with fire. 1141 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,280 Speaker 4: Brouh, Mark, Yeah, I I it just came up naturally. 1142 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 4: I wasn't naturally feel. 1143 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 3: Like it's like a mind control attempt by Greg to 1144 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 3: like body shame the person to his left so that 1145 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 3: his own body isn't compared to the giant players sitting 1146 00:50:59,120 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 3: to my life. 1147 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: I mean, this is that's an incredible theory. It's so wild. 1148 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 3: Everyone around us is laughing because they can see the threads. 1149 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 4: They're laughing because they just got inside of Mark Sessler's mind, 1150 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,919 Speaker 4: and it's a it's a dark noise. All right, let's 1151 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 4: that's absolutely. 1152 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: Let's let let's let our great team here, Parker, Eric, Jay, Randy. 1153 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: Do you think Greg was attempting to body shame Mark 1154 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: by making the references to his playing career pee wee 1155 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: with a big player next to them, let's hear it. Yes, No, 1156 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 1: he's nodding Jay behind the camera. 1157 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 4: I think we lost some of the d. 1158 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: So three to one, says Greg. 1159 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 4: It was I don't know if you've noticed, but my 1160 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,320 Speaker 4: body is like immaculate. I'm huge, I'm strong, I'm big. 1161 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 4: That's why I bring it up to these players, because 1162 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 4: there's such a contract between me and you. Coming from 1163 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 4: someone like me, it's like, oh, yeah, he's really picking 1164 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 4: on the little guy here. Yeah. 1165 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 3: Well, anyone on the audio version only can assess that 1166 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 3: that's correct. 1167 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: Uh Gallup. First of all, I liked him, Yeah, and 1168 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 1: I believe what I said. I think he is set 1169 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: up and it's a tough way It's a tough question 1170 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 1: to answer, but I can only imagine last year when 1171 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be quote to good healthy, but you 1172 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: don't trust your body, and you look at his numbers, 1173 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: they were so depressed, and he's almost like where Leyton 1174 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: Vanderesh was a year ago, where you've almost are you 1175 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: moving on from him at this point in terms of 1176 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: viewing him as a key piece. But if certain things 1177 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: fall the right way and he's physically right, I think 1178 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 1: he could be shoot. I think he could get back 1179 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: to being a one thousand yard receiver even with hooks 1180 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: in the building. 1181 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 3: We've seen it. I mean, I it's just another lesson 1182 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 3: where like these guys a year ago, he's forced to 1183 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,280 Speaker 3: ask or answer all these questions about his physical body 1184 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 3: is readiness and a lot of it is mental and 1185 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 3: like what are you gonna say other than like, yes, 1186 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 3: I'm ready because you can't expose any weakness, and like 1187 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 3: now a year later submitting like yeah, my head was 1188 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 3: not in it the same way I would want it 1189 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 3: to be. Like body trying to get there. It's like 1190 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 3: anyone that's coming off of major injury that tells us 1191 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,240 Speaker 3: they're fine, Like it's a wait and see territory. 1192 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there's a lot of focus I think 1193 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 4: now on mental health in terms of like how we 1194 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 4: cover the NFL, but that that's mental health too. In 1195 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 4: that like, it's pretty remarkable how open and honesty is 1196 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,760 Speaker 4: about it. It's like I wasn't right at this time 1197 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 4: a year ago. And it is something I do keep 1198 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 4: in mind with these players that it's like they're coming 1199 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 4: off the ACL and and there they're two weeks away 1200 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 4: from full contact and they'll be ready for week one, 1201 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 4: and it is a good thing to keep in mind. 1202 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 4: That's like there's a lot of obstacles and some some 1203 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 4: will be fine, but some that are even on the field, 1204 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 4: I thought that that shows a lot a lot of confidence. 1205 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 4: I think that you're able if you're him to just 1206 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 4: be so open and say that, and that budes, well. 1207 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,280 Speaker 1: Ready for week one is one of the trickiest things 1208 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: in the summer, because yeah, all these guys that are 1209 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: just trying to be ready, But are you all the 1210 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: way back? Are you physically back maybe maybe not? Are 1211 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: you mentally back maybe maybe not. It sounds like Gallop 1212 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: was really neither last year, and that's not how he 1213 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: feels this year, all Right, more fun. Let's talk to 1214 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: the voice of the Dallas Cowboys, shall we. Here comes 1215 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: Brad Sham the Sham God. We are pleased and thrilled 1216 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: to be joined by the voice of the Dallas Cowboys, 1217 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: a man whose voice has become an important part of 1218 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: our Sunday flagship program. He had no idea until now 1219 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: here's Brad Sham. And Brad, you should know that I 1220 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 1: always when I call you, your calls out. I say, 1221 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: Brad Sham the sham God. 1222 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 7: When when God Sham God was playing at Providence right, Yep, Yeah. 1223 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: I heard. 1224 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 7: I heard that a lot. Fortunately I didn't think it 1225 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 7: was talking about me, but Dan I was. 1226 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 4: I was not. 1227 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 7: Trying to be humble when I told you before, I'm 1228 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 7: glad that you play the highlights. And the reason I'm 1229 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 7: glad is my life is a lot better when they 1230 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 7: play well. And those highlights don't have anything to do 1231 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 7: with me. That's about them. You could be Vin Scully 1232 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 7: and if the team stinks, you're never going to hear 1233 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 7: his voice. 1234 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 4: Now we only play the winning highlights. So the Jaguars 1235 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,240 Speaker 4: play by play guy had a few years there. Basically, 1236 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 4: whether there's a. 1237 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 3: Reason they're called highlve you don't like to cover a 1238 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 3: team that goes through some waves of intense chaos as 1239 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. 1240 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: I have. 1241 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 7: I've been this is my forty fifth year. Name, an emotion, 1242 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 7: and something, a circumstance, I've I've experienced all of them. 1243 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,879 Speaker 1: Well, you've with that said, you just got back from 1244 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 1: Canton where DeMarcus where Cowboys Great inducted into the Pro 1245 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,760 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. A man who's been around from 1246 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: the glory days with Landry in the seventies into the eighties, 1247 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: and then Jarah of course in the nineties, and still 1248 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 1: the Cowboys even without the title Jara. 1249 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 7: Did he just drop a Jarah? 1250 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 4: I thought sham God was your nickname. He just makes 1251 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 4: up nicknames for everyone. Mike McCarthy's that I've. 1252 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 1: Written on NFL dot com just casually j E R 1253 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: R A H. Yeah, they don't. They never catch it. 1254 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 7: By the way, if he's calling Jerry Mike McCarthy, Zaddy, 1255 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 7: I think we've got a whole other set of problem. 1256 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 6: We've got it. 1257 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 3: We've got large problems, truck. 1258 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 1: We've got a whole nother don't. 1259 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,959 Speaker 7: That's a whole new podcast right there. 1260 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: Rad. My My question is, like you've been to some 1261 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: probably epic ragers, like I think Justin Timberlake played Jerry's Yes, 1262 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,959 Speaker 1: yes that was Is that the ultimate party? Yeah? 1263 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 7: I mean Jerry built a tempt he built, he built 1264 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 7: a city, and uh and and uh, every every every 1265 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 7: flashy thing that you could think of happening in there happened. 1266 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 7: And when Justin Timberlake is on the stage doing a 1267 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 7: private show for you for forty five minutes and you're 1268 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 7: standing at the foot of the stage, that's I'm not 1269 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,240 Speaker 7: looking for better than that. Really. 1270 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were telling us before the show that I 1271 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,720 Speaker 4: had no idea. The players have to pay for their 1272 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 4: own party. Yeah, yeah, I don't think Jerry Jones is 1273 00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 4: going to be one that's complaining about it. 1274 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 7: Well, no, Jerry was going to pay whatever, you know, 1275 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 7: But I think yes, I mean I don't know the percentages, 1276 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 7: but I know that through time, guys have had to 1277 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 7: pay for their own and then so in the case 1278 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 7: of DeMarcus Wares, I know that the Cowboys and the 1279 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 7: Broncos were officially listed as as putting the party on together, 1280 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 7: and I think that what that means is they made 1281 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 7: sure DeMarcus didn't have to spend any more than necessary, 1282 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 7: And I don't want to forget Chuck Howley either. 1283 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: When we're talking about the Hall. 1284 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 7: Of Fame, he was Tom Landry said he was the 1285 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 7: best linebacker he ever coached, and that we're just in 1286 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 7: an era now where if you're thirty five years old 1287 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 7: or younger, you never heard of Chuck Howley until they 1288 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 7: announced his name. But he was a special player and 1289 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 7: a tremendous guy, great in the Dallas community. 1290 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 3: I feel like this plane for paying for your own 1291 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 3: party is not cool on some levels, but especially one thing. 1292 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 3: If you're a Troy Aikman and you've established yourself as 1293 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 3: like a multi millionaire twelve times over, but some of 1294 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 3: these senior guys that a party are they hosting? It 1295 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 3: would be like a YMCA because you're doing you don't 1296 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 3: want that that money from back then. 1297 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 7: I would say maybe a little a step up from 1298 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 7: a YMC. Not that there's anything wrong with the way. 1299 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 7: It's a nice place, but but yeah, I would say 1300 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 7: I would say a little more sedate. 1301 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: Perhaps, what are the vibes of the Cowboys now? You 1302 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 1: were there for the nineties, glory years. Now there's been 1303 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: this long run obviously without getting back to the big game, 1304 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: urgency wise this season. How important do you think this 1305 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: is for whether it's Mike McCarthy. Obviously Dak is comfortable 1306 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: and under contract, but still it seems like there's a 1307 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on this team. Yeah. 1308 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 7: Well, Dak likes to say pressure is privilege, and I 1309 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 7: really like that because it gives you an opportunity to 1310 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 7: see what you're made of or crack. But there's there's 1311 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 7: no question there's some urgency. How about that for a word. 1312 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 7: They've been to, you know, the playoffs. Here's one thing 1313 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 7: that when they made the playoffs and won twelve games 1314 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 7: for the second year in a row, it was the 1315 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 7: first time in like fifteen years they had done those 1316 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 7: two things. So you can't say they're not successful. You 1317 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 7: can that huge part of our population that defines success 1318 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 7: only as the person holding up the hardware at the 1319 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 7: end of the year, they would say they weren't successful. 1320 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 7: I'm not of that mind. I think it's hard to 1321 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 7: say they were not successful. But they expect more of themselves. 1322 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 7: They want more of themselves. Here's the problem for them. 1323 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 7: I just saw a little clip. A friend of mine 1324 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 7: is a personal friend of the forty nine ers, center 1325 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 7: Jake Brindle, and he was talking about how hungry they 1326 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 7: are because they've got all this talent and all of this, 1327 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 7: and they haven't won the Super Bowl, haven't been to 1328 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 7: the super Bowl in the last couple of years. So 1329 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 7: Dallas is not the only hungry team. Dallas is not 1330 00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 7: the only motivated team. I think they're good and usually, 1331 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 7: especially with the way preseasons are and the youth of 1332 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 7: the roster, I think they'll get better as the season 1333 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 7: goes along. But I do think there's a sense of 1334 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 7: urgency because it has been a minute since they played 1335 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 7: in one of the last two games of the year. 1336 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been chic for ever since Mike McCarthy took over. 1337 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 3: To say that he particularly is on a hot seat, 1338 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 3: and this is more of a national media perspective, and 1339 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 3: also because of the special sauce you get with Jerry 1340 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 3: Jones constantly talking about the glory days, it's a little 1341 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 3: bit different than an absentee owner that's somewhere in Europe. 1342 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 7: I would challenge you to find me a place where 1343 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,479 Speaker 7: Jerry spends a lot of time talking about the glory days. 1344 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 3: Well. I can think of a one press conference where 1345 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,479 Speaker 3: they panned over to the Super Bowl trophies at one point, 1346 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 3: but maybe he's toned down that. 1347 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 7: Jerry's not walking around here talking about g I wish 1348 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 7: this was the nineties. G I wish our team was 1349 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 7: as good as the Triplets team. Jerry never I've never 1350 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 7: heard him say that. Does he want to win another 1351 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 7: one or two? Or darn righty does? But he doesn't 1352 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 7: talk about that. That's that's it's valid, I think. But 1353 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 7: it's a media driven narrative. 1354 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 3: That's why it's good to come here, I guess and 1355 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 3: unearthed that truth. 1356 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 4: Well, he also wants those eighty eights, and I'm sure 1357 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 4: he loves all the Michael Irving jerseys out there. But 1358 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 4: I was coming in thinking like there are still more 1359 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 4: eighty eight Irvins than there are eighty eight Lambs. 1360 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, and why do you think that is? 1361 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, because of what you said. You're out here though, 1362 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 4: I mean, you've been working for this, with this team 1363 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 4: now for over forty years. But you're out here grinding 1364 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,920 Speaker 4: like a journal You're at the side press conference, asking questions, 1365 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 4: you're finding out everything. What what have you learned in 1366 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 4: these first two weeks of training camp? And anyone flashing 1367 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 4: and he surprises positions that. 1368 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 7: You know there are The flashing is a keyword, because 1369 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 7: that's that is really what you kind of get. I 1370 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 7: remember Leon Latt flashed and then you say I better 1371 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 7: pay attention to him, and Eric Williams flashed. Now we're 1372 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 7: talking about a situation where have they had four padded practices. 1373 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 7: It's really hard to get the same kind of handle. 1374 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 7: And I can't imagine how many of their starters we'll 1375 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 7: see play football in the next three weeks. So what 1376 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 7: you get is a sense of younger guys who might 1377 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 7: have a chance to be something. I think their safety 1378 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 7: position is pretty good. I think that they have some 1379 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 7: defensive linemen more than they've had in the past. I 1380 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 7: think their wide receiver room is vastly improved, not just 1381 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 7: because they added Brandon Cooks, but because of some internal growth. 1382 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 7: And Michael Gallup was just a shadow of himself last year. 1383 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 7: He wasn't Michael Gallup. 1384 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 5: You know. 1385 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 7: I thought anyone who watched them play the forty nine 1386 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 7: ers in the playoffs could clearly see that, especially when 1387 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 7: Tony Pollard went out in the second half. Ceedee Lamb 1388 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 7: was the only playmaker that Prescott had available, which I personally, 1389 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 7: based on all my years of coaching thinks. I personally 1390 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 7: think that had something to do with his interception. I 1391 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 7: think which was an outlier statistic for him. But he 1392 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 7: didn't he didn't have I mean, I I love Zeke 1393 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 7: Elliott and I frankly they you know, they've gone a 1394 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 7: long time without ever asking me what a personnel decision 1395 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 7: should be. I would love to have him here. 1396 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 4: I would think he I think they're making a mistake. 1397 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 4: I think they. 1398 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 7: Should somebody will somebody. Well, it's a mistake if nobody's 1399 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,600 Speaker 7: able to play that role. 1400 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 4: Now, I mean a mistake, not on the. 1401 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, trust me there, that's not a mistake. But 1402 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 7: but someone's got to do that. And and so what 1403 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 7: you see out here, So that's a great example. What 1404 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 7: do you see? Well, I don't really need to watch 1405 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 7: much of Tony Pollard, but I do want to see 1406 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 7: the two guys behind him. Everybody wants to see duce Vaughan, 1407 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 7: but I watched him play in college. I know what 1408 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 7: ducevawn is. He's he's he. 1409 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: Is warren Sproles. 1410 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 7: I think darren Sproles, I think I think that's who 1411 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 7: he is. But but the two guys behind him, I 1412 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 7: really like Malik Davis, but Doubtles, a guy who's been 1413 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 7: hurt for two years. I think they think of him 1414 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 7: as more of a short yardage back. I don't know 1415 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 7: how much of it here, you see. You know, you 1416 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 7: guys just heard Mike McCarthy's talking about they are. They 1417 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 7: have like two or three more installation periods this week 1418 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 7: to put in specific things. So when you get into 1419 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 7: a game, a preseason game and it's third and one, now, 1420 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 7: let's see who they give the ball to and let's 1421 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 7: see what they try. Those are the things that you 1422 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 7: look for. But I mean, I think they've got some 1423 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 7: quality all over the place, and is it going to 1424 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 7: be enough? They have to play complimentary football and one 1425 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 7: thing they got to do is find a kicker. 1426 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 3: You know, shame on us for burying the lead. We 1427 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 3: are also journalists and we've done this entirely. We've had 1428 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 3: two people appear on our show ever that appeared in 1429 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 3: a major motion picture directed by Oliver Stone. Jim Brown 1430 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 3: was one number of years ago. But you we learned 1431 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 3: also a Pierre and I think I'm totally intimidated at 1432 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 3: the well, I mean, but we are you appeared in 1433 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 3: Oliver Stones. 1434 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 4: W I did? 1435 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 7: I did it was. It's too long a story to 1436 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 7: go into about how I got it, but I did 1437 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 7: get it, and I'll tell you the big thrill. So 1438 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 7: I played a reporter who, parenthetically, it turns out, was 1439 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 7: John Dickerson, who is one of my heroes. I think. 1440 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 7: I think he's just one of the greatest working journalists 1441 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 7: in America. And he was at Time Magazine when he 1442 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 7: asked President Bush at a news conference, which I remember watching, 1443 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 7: what would you say were your biggest mistakes and what 1444 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 7: have you learned from them? And uh and and President 1445 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 7: Bush could not really answer the question. He had a 1446 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 7: hard time with it. And you know, I knew him. 1447 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 7: I know him a little bit when he when he 1448 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 7: was the owner of the Texas Rangers. I dealt with 1449 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 7: him quite a bit, and I was doing Ranger games 1450 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 7: when he was governor, and he would come up and 1451 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 7: every now and then he'd sit in a booth and 1452 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 7: spend some time with us. So one of the great, 1453 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 7: one of the great treats for me in that process 1454 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 7: was about the month before we shot the scene, rehearsing it, 1455 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 7: shot it in Shreveport, rehearsing it with Stone and Josh Brolin, 1456 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 7: and there's nobody in the room but the three of 1457 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 7: us and a couple of staffers. And so Brolan wants 1458 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 7: to understand what. And he's really digging, he's getting his 1459 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 7: hands dirty, trying to get inside George Bush's head. What 1460 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 7: what's so hard about that question? 1461 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't get it? 1462 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 7: And so I said, Josh, I don't. I'm not saying 1463 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 7: we go to dinner all the time, but I mean, 1464 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 7: I know the guy a little bit. Which and then 1465 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 7: his eyes got whid like that, and I said, here's 1466 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 7: the thing. I think that George Bush had trouble answering 1467 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,640 Speaker 7: that question because in his mind you don't have to 1468 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 7: agree with him. But in his mind, everything he did, 1469 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 7: from weapons of mass destruction and everything else, all of 1470 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 7: those things, especially in the war build up, he did 1471 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 7: based on the best evidence he could get, and he 1472 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 7: believed he was doing the right thing. So when you 1473 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 7: have all your people telling you this is how it is, 1474 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 7: mister president, and this is what we recommend, then what 1475 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 7: are you supposed to do? That's why you have advisors. 1476 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 7: So I said, I think the guy didn't answer it 1477 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 7: because he really didn't think he did anything wrong. He 1478 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 7: took himself back through the process and he made the 1479 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 7: best decision he could based on the information that he 1480 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 7: had at the time in his opinion. And the other 1481 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 7: thing I said to him was, you don't have to 1482 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 7: agree with George Bush's politics, and you can think the 1483 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 7: jobs a little too big for him, But I'm just 1484 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 7: telling you he's really a good guy, and which he is. 1485 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 7: He is George W. Bush is really a good guy. 1486 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 7: He's the kind of guy you would like to hang 1487 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:19,639 Speaker 7: out with. And that really resonated well. Just seeing Brolin 1488 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 7: in his process was I don't when am I going 1489 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 7: to get a chance to do anything like that. Then 1490 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 7: the whole shooting the scene was surreal. Have I got 1491 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 7: like thirty seconds to tell you one more? 1492 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 6: Yes? 1493 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 7: So I come into town the night before we shoot 1494 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 7: the scene late, probably midnight by the time I got 1495 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,759 Speaker 7: to the hotel room, and they slide the call sheet 1496 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 7: under the door. So here's who's you. Here's who your 1497 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 7: First thing I thought was it's midnight. I just got here. 1498 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 7: Please don't let this be six am. And it wasn't. 1499 01:08:53,760 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 7: It was ten o'clock. Okay, good, Now the call sheet 1500 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 7: shows you with whom you are in the scene. So 1501 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 7: here's Rob Cordrey who's playing Shapiro the Press Secretary, and 1502 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 7: Toby Jones is playing Carl Rove and uh and so 1503 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 7: they're all standing up along and I was fine reading 1504 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 7: until I saw Richard Dreyfus, who's playing Cheney, and and 1505 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 7: I am all alone sitting in this hotel room, and 1506 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 7: I looked up and said out loud, I looked at 1507 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 7: Richard Dreyfus's name, and I said, what the blank am 1508 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 7: I doing here? But they were all great? It was 1509 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 7: it was I mean, I love what I do. I've 1510 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 7: got a passion for what I do, or I wouldn't 1511 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 7: have been doing it so long. But that that's got 1512 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 7: to be the most fun I ever had working, probably 1513 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,519 Speaker 7: because I don't do it very often. 1514 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 1: It's wild. That's cool. I wonder who we're going to 1515 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: get next from the Oliverstone Tree, but we got two 1516 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 1: good ones so far, Jim Brown and the great Brad Sham. 1517 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time, and we'll be 1518 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 1: listening to you again this season. 1519 01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 7: God willing, thank you. 1520 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,679 Speaker 1: All right, there goes Brad. Very good, I would say, 1521 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 1: mark if okay. So we got Sham God from w 1522 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,799 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. We got the late Jim Brown 1523 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,080 Speaker 1: from any given Sunday ninety nine. Maybe get a little 1524 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 1: woody house in next I think that would fit a 1525 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: little killers bit right into. 1526 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 4: There's such an obvious choice here, someone that you've been 1527 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,439 Speaker 4: trying to bring back his catchphrase for the better part 1528 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 4: of a decade. It's Charlie She. I mean, I think 1529 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 4: we're at the point where our great our careers have 1530 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 4: been on a slow incline. I'm not saying metiorc, but 1531 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 4: slow incline. But I think we're at the point now 1532 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 4: he's going the other way we're gonna meet. I'm just 1533 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,160 Speaker 4: saying he hasn't had a ton of air time. Maybe 1534 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,200 Speaker 4: he's ready to join the around the NFL. 1535 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 3: But I think would benefit both sides. Now, a little 1536 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 3: platoon look back. Yeah, that's a great call. 1537 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,919 Speaker 1: And speaking of Hollywood and just how different is Cowboys 1538 01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: camp than anywhere else? Uh? I honestly, for a second thought, 1539 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 1: it was Tom Cruise. 1540 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 4: I mean, so I totally get check out our socials 1541 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 4: for the the reference. Yes, Tom Cruise, look an incredible 1542 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,799 Speaker 4: Tom Cruise clone who could do the laugh the gestures. 1543 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 3: But here's the thing that I'd realized. He's walking by 1544 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,759 Speaker 3: in a in a literally a top gun and outfit, 1545 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,639 Speaker 3: which is like not something that Tom and the actual 1546 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 3: Tom Cruise would do. But but your reality stopped for 1547 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 3: a minute when you saw right, and they came in 1548 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,320 Speaker 3: and took some photos with us. 1549 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 4: And maybe it's like a make a wish thing. Maybe 1550 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 4: you know, Jerry Jones is paying him a million to. 1551 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: Please dress two things. I left it purposely vague on 1552 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,840 Speaker 1: social to see you know, how people react to it. 1553 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 1: They don't know whether if we think he's the real 1554 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise or not. Let's see what the response are. 1555 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 1: Second second, he is wearing one of his character's outfits 1556 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 1: from Maverick. And right now there's a very contentious labor 1557 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,759 Speaker 1: issue going on with the actors. Tom Cruise is maybe 1558 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 1: the most famous actor and is a kind of a spokesman. 1559 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,880 Speaker 1: If the real Tom Cruise knew that there was a 1560 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,759 Speaker 1: fake Tom Cruise dressing as one of his movie characters, 1561 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 1: he might have him. 1562 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's I would not be powerful man's powerful guy. 1563 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 4: So I hope he. 1564 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 3: I mean he's handing out business cards and trying to Yeah, 1565 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 3: he's not trying. 1566 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 4: You can Actually he's got a home media kit. He's 1567 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 4: got a lot going on. 1568 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Any other thoughts that was great talking to the sham 1569 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 1: god though, whenever you talk to these guys that have 1570 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,600 Speaker 1: become a part of the show. Very nice, gentlemen. We 1571 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 1: actually did another you know, twenty minutes on w chopping 1572 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: it up his history with Oliver Stowe. 1573 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 3: Told us some Oliver Stone nuggets that were juicy. 1574 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,640 Speaker 1: All right, so what have we learned today? What have 1575 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 1: we learned? The Cowboys are going to be good. 1576 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 4: They're America's team. Yeah, Cowboys. Haters could be great. Will 1577 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 4: not like this episode, but if you made it this far, 1578 01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 4: you just can't. That means you just love us. 1579 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 1: So thank you, Yes, we thank you for that. We 1580 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 1: thank you Dallas Cowboys for allowing us to come by 1581 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 1: here and set up shop. Hopefully they'll have us back 1582 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 1: again in the future. Thank you to Eric, Randy Parker 1583 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: and Jay behind the scenes for making this thing go 1584 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 1: very smooth. 1585 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 3: Behind the glass though, just in a big hot tent 1586 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 3: with all of us. 1587 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 1: Yes. Thank you to Brian Schottenheimer for dressing like Eminem 1588 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine. I appreciate his forever young attitude. 1589 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 4: Thanks for standing with me in the shorts gang and 1590 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 4: showing off some sweet leg tattoos. Thank did not know. 1591 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Eric surprises, they never cease. Greg, thank 1592 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,599 Speaker 1: you for wearing the longer shorts. Mark, thank you for 1593 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,679 Speaker 1: wearing the Panama jack hat out on the field. Yes, 1594 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: you looked very slick and maybe perhaps we can get 1595 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,759 Speaker 1: a photo of that for the audience. 1596 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,639 Speaker 3: I will source one. Okay, very immediately, acep anything else 1597 01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,639 Speaker 3: from me. I'm good. 1598 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,519 Speaker 1: All right. We got a long ride back down to 1599 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 1: l A. Thank you everybody for listening. We'll be back 1600 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: Wednesday from uh Sofi Stadium or the I'm thinking Sofi 1601 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 1: Stadium because I'm going to see Taylor Swift. 1602 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta catch you gotta gotta. 1603 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: Catch a bird. Only I don't got a bird, so 1604 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 1: I gotta hit the road. But thank you everybody. Uh 1605 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,679 Speaker 1: until Wednesday. You know what you gotta do. Heed the call? 1606 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys eleven and six, twelve, twelve minutes. Oh what kind 1607 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:29,479 Speaker 1: of run we make? 1608 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:30,360 Speaker 5: What happened? One? 1609 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:30,760 Speaker 1: Went one? 1610 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:31,559 Speaker 3: Playoff loss,