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Speaker 1: What's up, guys. This is Luke Keithley. I am currently

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Speaker 1: a grade school football coach at Charlotte Christian and this

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Speaker 1: is the NFL Player's Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all for tuning in today on the NFL

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Speaker 2: Players Second Act Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm Peanut Tillman, and this is my guy, Roman Harper.

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Speaker 3: I like the shirt and the shirt combo.

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Speaker 2: Hey, man, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Hair shirt combo. I guess you matched. It's camouflage the

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Speaker 3: Roman Harper.

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Speaker 4: Look, this is what I'm going for. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Number one. I'm really excited about our next guest, Number one.

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Speaker 4: I know him very well personally. You do too, Yeah, man,

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Speaker 4: it's like our guy. This our guy, Our guy is

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Speaker 4: in the room. I'm so excited to share with everybody

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Speaker 4: some of the stories. And I actually learned some things

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Speaker 4: about this young man that I didn't know about. But

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Speaker 4: first and foremost, sus think the Carolina Panthers for hosting

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Speaker 4: us here in the Panthers Vision studio right here underground

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Speaker 4: at a Bank of America Stadium, where this young man

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Speaker 4: did a ton of work.

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Speaker 2: So let's go. Let's jump into it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I know all his accolades, but one

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Speaker 3: thing I didn't know. So, uh, second player to win

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Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year, and he won Defensive Rookie

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Speaker 3: of the Year. And he did it in back to

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Speaker 3: back seasons. Yeah, like I didn't, I don't know. That's

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Speaker 3: pretty impressive. Right now, he's the youth coach, he's the

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Speaker 3: voice of your Carolina parentthers.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentleman. Luke Keighley is on this show. My God,

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Speaker 2: what's going on.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you guys show. I've seen it

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Speaker 1: a lot of it. Now I get to be honest,

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Speaker 1: I know, what do you think about it so far?

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Speaker 1: Two of my guys, it's gotta be good. Two defensive guys,

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Speaker 1: offensive guys.

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Speaker 3: On the podcast, we talk about his defense. We don't

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Speaker 3: like offensive players like we just all defense all day long.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: My only goal is to get Luke to share with

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Speaker 4: everybody some of the trash talking that my man learned

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Speaker 4: over the year.

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Speaker 1: I learned it from Roman Harper, learned it from Roman

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Speaker 1: Harper and Peanut too. You guys would just come up,

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Speaker 1: blab a little bit the offensive linement and then walk away,

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Speaker 1: and then we had to deal with this. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: get all you get them all true angry and then

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Speaker 1: they come try to hit us, and you just be

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Speaker 1: sitting out there on the corner and I don't have

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Speaker 1: to worry about a thing.

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Speaker 2: I have to say.

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Speaker 3: The one time I heard the probably the very first

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Speaker 3: time I heard you trash talk, I kind of I

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Speaker 3: kind of laughed because.

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Speaker 2: I laughed a lot listened to Luke talk.

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Speaker 3: Trash because it was like most people say, it's like

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Speaker 3: a m effort and like it's very like you know

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Speaker 3: what the curse word is, like you know the phrase,

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Speaker 3: And he was like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what damn, kind of like it.

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Speaker 1: Just didn't I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: I just said that, it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't really flow.

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Speaker 3: So when he so, I was like, wait that that

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Speaker 3: didn't even make sense, but just a lot of energy

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Speaker 3: that just got to get out, you know, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: The best trash talk that I got from Luke Keigley

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Speaker 4: was we were playing against the Falcons and I guess

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Speaker 4: he blew by some center or something and he was like,

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Speaker 4: quit hold me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a minus. That's a minus.

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Speaker 1: Some of that stuff people say that. I said. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember saying that, but I know you

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Speaker 1: logged it in that bank of years, like, Hey, I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to tell Luke about this.

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Speaker 4: Ready, know, because Luke would keep up with mine too,

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Speaker 4: So oh my god, it's all good.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna kick this thing off right now. One hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty one thousand followers like people follow you, one

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty one thousand on Instagram, on the IG,

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Speaker 3: on the Gram you have absolutely zero posts. How does

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Speaker 3: one get that many followers and you haven't posted anything.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. That's a good question. Anticipation, anticipation

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Speaker 1: for the first post that probably will never happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so here here's a follow up question.

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Speaker 3: If you post or when you post, what's something that

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Speaker 3: you would post?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I don't know. It's a good question. I

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: The best thing about that, though, yeah, was that I

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Speaker 4: looked this up last.

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Speaker 2: Night because I'm like, Luke has that many followers. I

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Speaker 2: didn't even know Luke was on Instagram and then I

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Speaker 2: looked at it. He follows me, got your wrong?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I follow you. He follows me.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know.

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Speaker 1: I got you wrong?

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate that. So he actually is paying attention

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Speaker 2: he just is like.

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Speaker 1: Just keep eyes out there.

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Speaker 2: He's got eyes out there. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: It's a good It's a good resource for youth football drills.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Like Greg and I send stuff back and forth. It's

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Speaker 1: always on Instagram, like tackle drills, offensive lineman drills, different

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Speaker 1: things like that, how to teach stuff, because you in

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Speaker 1: your mind when you're coaching these kids, you're like, aren't

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Speaker 1: you just just do it?

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Speaker 3: Just do it like that?

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Speaker 1: And then but if if it's easier, when like you

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Speaker 1: get good ideas from people that coach youth sports as well,

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Speaker 1: do they know how to do it? And you watch

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Speaker 1: these videos and you're like, yeah, that's a it's a

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Speaker 1: really good idea. So you kind of take some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff and move it towards youth football, youth football stuff,

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Speaker 1: and it's good resource for that.

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Speaker 3: I got a nice little folder of like videos football

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Speaker 3: players workouts.

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Speaker 1: I watched it.

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Speaker 3: You know, for all a couple people. It's a good

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Speaker 3: way to steal some good information. Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so look, let's go back to this one. I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't say it was pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: It was a great night.

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Speaker 4: And that is the night that we won the NFC

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Speaker 4: Championship game versus the Arizona Cardinals in twenty fifteen. During

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Speaker 4: that game, I was making a tackle. You come by

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Speaker 4: flashing over there by sidelines. You kind of hit me.

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Speaker 4: I mean he hit me, he did, all right, and

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Speaker 4: you actually knocked So I have I had lay six

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Speaker 4: surgery and I have a flap that's laser onto my eye,

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Speaker 4: onto the corner of my eye, and when you hit me,

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Speaker 4: it like knocked the flap off my eye. Everybody thought

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Speaker 4: I had a concussion. I'm like, dude, I'm fine, Like

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Speaker 4: was not coming back. And I went and got tested

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Speaker 4: and yes, the cornier comes off so I could play anymore.

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Speaker 4: What do you remember about that play that moment, and

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Speaker 4: like what did you feel?

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Speaker 1: It was a long run down our sideline against David

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Speaker 1: Wilson and you were like tackling him, and I remember

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Speaker 1: something about like if this is him, this was you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm coming from this angle. I think the last

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Speaker 1: second like he dropped instead of hitting him, I hit you.

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Speaker 1: And I remember I hit you and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: and I saw your face through your visor and like pain.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so sorry. You okay, and You're like, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm so sorry. And then he went on

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Speaker 1: eye and I was like, what do you mean? And

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Speaker 1: TV's like you hit him in the face. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Room. I was like, and the next question

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Speaker 1: is you can be able playing super Bowl? Yeah? That

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Speaker 1: was it, and then you played.

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Speaker 2: I did play.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy, just because I didn't know what it was.

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Speaker 2: I it was just this part of my vision was

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Speaker 4: And Luke always flies around like you never apologize for

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Speaker 4: any of that friendly fire stuff, nor should you, but

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Speaker 4: I was. It really made me feel good that after

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Speaker 4: the game at halftime, when everybody came in like that

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Speaker 4: was the biggest thing, and what we don't even you

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Speaker 4: guys weren't even focused on the game. You were a

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Speaker 4: little bit way more concerned with how I was doing,

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Speaker 4: how I was feeling. So I appreciated that and I

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Speaker 4: was just like, man, y'all, just go win this game.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be just fun.

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Speaker 3: You remember you remember to pick six off that that

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Speaker 3: same game?

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Speaker 1: Yes, so they ran that same play earlier in the game.

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Speaker 1: I remember we were sitting meetings and it was like

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Speaker 1: a I don't know if it was like a third

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Speaker 1: it was John Brown lined up in the slot and

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Speaker 1: he would run anytime he lined up there in three

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Speaker 1: by one, he'd run like a ten yard curl. And

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Speaker 1: back when we were playing quarters, we had a call

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Speaker 1: him through by one with speed room oh box, a

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Speaker 1: fax call, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, facts, fast fax call. Yeah that I mean somebody

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I could push him over the top.

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Speaker 2: So now Luke can stay long and be ready to.

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Speaker 1: Stay so I can push him over the top. And

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Speaker 1: they come out in that formation early in the game

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Speaker 1: and completed one for a first down, and like I knew,

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Speaker 1: I knew it was coming.

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Speaker 2: You knew it.

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Speaker 1: And he just put his foot in his putting his

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Speaker 1: foot in the ground and like pivoted away. Carson Palmer

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Speaker 1: put it like low outside completion and in my helmet,

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Speaker 1: I had the mic and I was like, that was

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Speaker 1: at play. So I'm like, I know, I know. So

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Speaker 1: then they came out at the end of the game

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Speaker 1: like that, they line up in that same formation we

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Speaker 1: got quarters again, we had another fact call pushed it

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Speaker 1: if he runs a go and they complete that, I

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Speaker 1: don't care. I'm gonna jump right in front of this ball.

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Speaker 1: And it was like perfect everything happened, you know, like

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Speaker 1: one of those plays where everything happens perfectly. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly exactly what happened. So they ran it earlier

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Speaker 1: in the game. I missed it, which was annoying because

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Speaker 1: we had talked about it all week. Yeah, three by

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Speaker 1: one speed speeding slot, we get a quarter. If we're

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Speaker 1: in quarters and make a FAXT call, Kurt's gonna sit backside,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna push through that inside shoulder. I was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, great, and then they hit it and then

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Speaker 1: I get it out of my headset and then go

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Speaker 1: to the sideline and out pools the surface up. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm good, bro, Like I got it. I already know.

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Speaker 1: I already know what you exactly you're gonna say, but

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Speaker 1: he's gonna say it again just to be annoying, and

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Speaker 1: TD TD like look at me like like TD, I know,

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Speaker 1: like I know so. But it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: that they ran it again and it worked out the

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Speaker 1: second time.

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Speaker 3: I think the thing I remember most about to play,

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Speaker 2: He threw, I don't care. It was literally.

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Speaker 4: It was so beautiful for me because I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: So I'm ready, like, oh, I'm read you're like this,

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Speaker 1: You know what. You know what's funny is like TD

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Speaker 1: basically like TV and I are like, man, screw you room,

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Speaker 3: And so you think you would have called it off

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Speaker 1: Know, I'd be like, you can talk, you can talk

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Speaker 3: So, oh, that's funny. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 3: We all have had great careers, We've all made thousands

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Speaker 3: have yours, You've you've got yours. What do you think

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Speaker 1: You know what, Peanut? I think there was one. So

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Speaker 1: almost like peanuts mindset was like let him catch it

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Speaker 1: like and I was like, okay, this is it. It

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Speaker 1: like TV. The first time I met Thomas watch him

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Speaker 1: I'm so old. That makes sense. It makes sense. Now

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Speaker 2: So what was your highlight?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, you have a ton So what is your

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Speaker 3: One that just sticks out, like one of the first

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Speaker 1: We played Cincinnati and Cincinnati twenty fourteen, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I think this is it.

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Speaker 1: I think this is it, and like you know who's

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Speaker 1: Giovanni Bernard didn't see me come in. It was like perfect,

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Speaker 1: But it was one of those plays where everything happens

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Speaker 1: We were in a good defense and you make a

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Speaker 4: Well, if we should already understand how great your memory

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Speaker 4: is in your football acumen, just by you remember numbers players,

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Speaker 4: like every situation, you just got them banked.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody. I think every football play a lot of.

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Speaker 3: A lot of I think a lot of us can do.

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Speaker 3: I'm not not I'm not trying to just credit you,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, I think Luke's he's he's still another level.

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Speaker 3: It's a little different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think guys just remember, like if it's important

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Speaker 3: It takes you back, though, because when you tell the

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Speaker 3: thanks call he yep, Like it's yeah, you you do

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Speaker 2: Agreed to that? What was your welcome to the NFL moment?

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Speaker 3: Does Lukey even have ye?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: get they get into level. Couldn't. He was huge.

440
00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,800
Speaker 2: It was Jeff Otah.

441
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,240
Speaker 1: And he was our he was one of our tackles,

442
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,800
Speaker 1: and he was big, he was athletic, and he was

443
00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,000
Speaker 1: just wide. And I remember I was like, whoa, I'm

444
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,800
Speaker 1: not used to Usually it's some like guy that doesn't

445
00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,800
Speaker 1: understand angles. He's not fast, he hasn't been around. So

446
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,080
Speaker 1: that that first day of ota Is, I was like,

447
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,240
Speaker 1: things are faster. The first game of the season, we

448
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,720
Speaker 1: played Tampa Bay in Tampa and they had a fullback

449
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,159
Speaker 1: that was just that just they ran lead week the

450
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,679
Speaker 1: whole game and just mauled me, mauled me, and I

451
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,480
Speaker 1: was like, go, like this is guys are more physical,

452
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,240
Speaker 1: Guys are stronger, Guys are bigger. Like you got to

453
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 1: learn how to like thump guys. But the first thing

454
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,399
Speaker 1: that I got when I got hit hard, we played

455
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,959
Speaker 1: Seattle my rookie year. It was like at four o'clock

456
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 1: game and Russ was like Russ was scrambling to our

457
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 1: right and got out of the pocket. I was like

458
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 1: really playing cover three and he's probably fifteen yards away

459
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 1: from me, and he starts running directly at me, and

460
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm running right at him, and I'm like, he'll kill

461
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,400
Speaker 1: this kid, kill him. And I'm running full speed. Mike

462
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,280
Speaker 1: Robinson and I was running and like we got like

463
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 1: this far away from each other and Russ goes this

464
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,479
Speaker 1: way and I turn and it's like Mike rob running

465
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 1: mock five at my face and he hit me. He

466
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 1: hit me so hard, like he hit me so hard.

467
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,199
Speaker 1: I didn't even feel it, and I just was like

468
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 1: on the ground and you guys know Mike rob at all, yeah, yeah,

469
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 1: And he just like looked at me and just like

470
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 1: like smiled like he got like I got you, Like

471
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 1: that's how we he didn't. He wasn't talking junk. He's

472
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 1: just like I gotcha, yeah. And I was like, you

473
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 1: can't even say anything. You can't like got to swallow

474
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 1: your pride, just like like try to. And you're just like, yeah,

475
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: got me. And so then I've seen him. I've seen

476
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: him since. I was like, what's up, Mike, And he

477
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: smiles at me. I'm like, I know why you're smiling.

478
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: He's like, I know I said when you hit me

479
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 1: that one time. He's like, yep, I said that was

480
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 1: a good one, clean shot, nothing dirty about it. He

481
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 1: just got me. He caught me and like talk about

482
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 1: head on swivel like that was the first time. And

483
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 1: I was like, freaking Russ set me up. Set me

484
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: up too, set me up. Like he knew Mike was coming.

485
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: He's running at me like this moron, like my run

486
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 1: right at of me. Cut inside. I looked like this, And.

487
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 2: That's if it makes you feel any better.

488
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 4: I decleted Mike rob no doubt in the single Bowl,

489
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 4: destroyed him easy walking. I freaking smoked him right at

490
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 4: the one yard line.

491
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Speaker 3: As a fullback right playing quarterback quarterback, he played quarterback.

492
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: The Penn State.

493
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, he thought he had an easy walk in like

494
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 4: everybody's gonna just stop. No no brood zone like he

495
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 4: Rome didn't care.

496
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: Roma hit. Do you remember you hit Justin Britt that

497
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: one time against Seattle at home? Oh yeah, I do

498
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: know outside Play and TD smoked Turban. Yeah, Roman hit

499
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: dressing Britt. You hit him so hard.

500
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's a that's a lineman to

501
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 2: you guys.

502
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 1: You almost like yeah, like you kind of feel bad.

503
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: You're like you are right, Okay, I like it.

504
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: I like it though. You you you bring the rock

505
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: star room. That's what I appreciated that about you as

506
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: a as a safety, Like you just didn't give a damn.

507
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 3: You just was like COmON Cozie styles, sacrifice my body,

508
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 3: just like so what then you got the guns showing

509
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 3: you was just.

510
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: Room you would always have. Like you didn't walk around

511
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: like you didn't walk around like normal. You're always You're

512
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 1: always walking around like this.

513
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: It's like your nickels down. You just had like you

514
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,959
Speaker 3: was like like you was swollen.

515
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 1: You're like trying to flext your traps, your shoulder heads,

516
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: like you had this different like walking you had that

517
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: Advisor and you kind of always let people know what

518
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: was you wear that old helmet to. I did.

519
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: It was a very old, that bold helmet.

520
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: You came and you can't wear that helmet anymore anymore.

521
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 3: I think when I came here, they were like, you

522
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 3: need to get a new helmet. I was like, absolutely not,

523
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: I want the old.

524
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: You had that old helmet. And Peanut had like that

525
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: grade school mouthpiece.

526
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: He had the bowling bite, yeah, attached, like.

527
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: Bro, come on, the only people that can wear an

528
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: attached bowling bite like that is a running back. But

529
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: you didn't even have to lip guard on it. You

530
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: just had like, oh school, that was like the fifth grade.

531
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: That's like the first thing you go home. You heat

532
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: it with your mom. Don't bite down too hard, you

533
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: might bite through it.

534
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: The bowling bite that was Peanut. Yes, so look I

535
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: had just for y'all listen, offend himself now. It is defendable. Not.

536
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: The reason I had it was because I had like

537
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 3: the cool mouthpiece that you could take out. I used

538
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: to get so tired. I just want to be able

539
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: to spit it out castro okay, all right, and then

540
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: just put it right back. And when I just I

541
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: lost it. One time, like I was a big teeth guy,

542
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: like I don't want my teeth to chip or anything,

543
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: like when I hit you something I.

544
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: Need like nervous. That was like my mouthpiece was like

545
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: my nervous tick, Like, yes.

546
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: I was going to speak about that. You can finish.

547
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 4: But Lot you always had his mouth He was in

548
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 4: and out all.

549
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: The time, in and out all the time.

550
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: It was like it.

551
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 4: And he did more talking than anybody on defense. But

552
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 4: you always had it in your hand, pointing and going

553
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 4: on and trying to throw it back in the last second.

554
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't do that though, That's why I had the mouthpiece.

555
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: It was just right before the season got started. It

556
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: was or the game the play got started. It was

557
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: like the final Like here we go, just throw it

558
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: in right through the side.

559
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I can't put it through the front.

560
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: You gotta put you can't put it underneath, you gotta

561
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: put through the side side.

562
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: That's why, that's why I like that.

563
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 5: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.

564
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: I've been up for the Hall of Fame for a

565
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: couple of years now, and I never thought about it

566
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 3: until a reporter did this report and then my name

567
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: was on like the new guys who are nominated for

568
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 3: the year, and then I started thinkings like damn, I'm

569
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: actually up for the Hall of Fame, Like it's kind

570
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: of cool. I never thought about it until my name

571
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 3: popped up. Make sure you're eligible. Have you thought about

572
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 3: what it would be like to go into the Hall

573
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: of Fame?

574
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I So next year, like you said, it's

575
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: the first year, I'm gonna go up to see Pep.

576
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Pep.

577
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: Gets in this year. I think you get up there,

578
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: I think you're like, like you see it and you're like, WHOA,

579
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: that would be really cool. I think that's kind of

580
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: I think that it gets more real that it's an

581
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: like it's an opportunity. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen, yeah,

582
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: but it's you get up there, and I think you

583
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: just like you see the guys that are like getting

584
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: in this year, and it's two guys like I played

585
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: with Pep and then Devin Hester, Like obviously there's other

586
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: guys like Devin Hester was like the first guy that,

587
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: like I remember talking to Greg about him that like say,

588
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: say we were playing shoot, what would it be we'd

589
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: be we'd be on defense, Think about we got a

590
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: three and out? What do we always do? You come

591
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: sit down on the bench, you get a drink of water.

592
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: Like they punt the ball away, You're like, whatever, he

593
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: gets fifteen yards, good job. But like pet Hester was

594
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: the first guy that like you know what it was

595
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: like you come off the field, you don't go sit

596
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: on the bench.

597
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 3: You're watching it.

598
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: You're you're standing there and you're like, what's he gonna do?

599
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: What's he gonna do? And that to me is cool.

600
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: So like see those guys get recognized for like changing

601
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: the game. And then Pep Like Pep's just like a

602
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: different a different breed of dude. But I think you

603
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: get up there, you start to see like, man, this

604
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: would be really cool.

605
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to the Hall of Fame?

606
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: You ever been in I went to Canton when I

607
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: was in grade school?

608
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and experience.

609
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool. It was awesome. Like how old

610
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: were you It's probably like in third grade? Yeah, I

611
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: went up there, and you get to see I love

612
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: I've always loved football. So you get to go up

613
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: there and see like, oh, these are the pants that

614
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: Dan Marino wore, Like whoa, and you like maybe one

615
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: day I can wear those pants. But they were like

616
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: old school, you know, like the old school pants. They

617
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: had like the lace up in the front with like

618
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: the huge belt and they were like this long. Yeah,

619
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: so like those are. And then you go in there

620
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: and you see like all the super Bowl rings. They

621
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: have all the super Bowl rings from every super Bowl ever,

622
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: and like you can look at them and see how

623
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: they've from the first super Bowl to the most recent one.

624
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: Whenever I was there and you're like, man, you think

625
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: in your mind, like everybody, every kid thinks like maybe

626
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: one day I'll get one of those. Yeah, that'd be cool.

627
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: And then just all the memorabilia and stuff to read

628
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: about in the history of football and all the busts,

629
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: and like seeing the guys that you know, you grew

630
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: up listening to your parents think talk about it's just cool.

631
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: I think it'll hit different now because you've played with

632
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: the guy and you know a couple of players. I

633
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 3: was kind of like that we win in five, like

634
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: the one of the one of the preseason games. Didn't

635
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: really think a ton of it. And then when Brian

636
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: got inducted, you go back, Brian Lacker, and you go back.

637
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 3: And then I got a chance to meet all of

638
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: the current Hall of famers and they knew who I was,

639
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: and I was just like, oh my god, like this

640
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: is this is that guy? This is Tim Brown, this

641
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: is Jay Rice is you know what's up? And you know,

642
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: bear right, excuse me, Barry Sanders And you get there

643
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 3: and you're just like, oh my god. Like remember when

644
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: we were in Detroit. Yeah, brom and I were so

645
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 3: geeked to meet Barry Sanders. Like we we went out

646
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: and we're taking selfies and I was like, bro, that's

647
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders, Like that was my childhood idol. So when

648
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: you go you're just.

649
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: Like, I feel how you're talking about it is like

650
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: when your first time, like you get into a locker

651
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: room when you got drafted, like and you show up

652
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: in Chicago in New Orleans, Like when I got here,

653
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: you're like but like you can't, like you're trying to

654
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: be cool, but you're like he like I remember he

655
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: walked up to me and he's like, Hey, what's up.

656
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm Smitty. I was like, what's up. I'm Luke, Like

657
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: trying to be cool, but like know in the back

658
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: of your mind, like that's the first time I met Irlacker. Yeah,

659
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: we played. We played in Chicago, and Greg was really

660
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: good buddies with him because Greg got traded two years before,

661
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: and it was in the point in the season where

662
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, hey, like I felt comfortable,

663
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: like hey, Greg, can you introduce me to Brian? Like

664
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: who calls him Brian? But I was He's like, of course.

665
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: So after the game, I show up and I walked up.

666
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: Greg was talking to him like Brian's here, and I

667
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: came up like from our sideline, say hi, and he

668
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: turned around. I was like, hey, Brian, I'm Luke. Nice

669
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: to meet you. And I was like, what sounds like

670
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: a dork and Greg was like whatever, He's like, hey,

671
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: what's up man, It's nice to meet you too. I

672
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: was like okay, fine. I turned around and like walk

673
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: off the field, and I was like, you know when

674
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: you play it back in your mind, like it never

675
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: goes yeah, Like you know when you like played up

676
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: in your mind like man, I'm gonna what's up black

677
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, yo, man, like you good football player.

678
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: And then you go up there and you're like, Hi,

679
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm Luke, Nice to meet you. And then he's like

680
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: he looks at you, and you're like, all I see you,

681
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: and you like, as you're walking into the tunnel, you

682
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: don't know like should I Like you're kind of nervous,

683
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: like should I walk? Should I like jog? And then

684
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: you're like you walk and then you jog in you

685
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: walk and you jog. You kind of you're just like, guys,

686
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: gotta get off this field, man, I'll mess it all up.

687
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: That's so good for most people need to know that

688
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: because most people think we all just like treat each

689
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: other the same, and it's not like.

690
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: Fans of other fans.

691
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: Though we are fans of other players, but you never

692
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: want to be the you don't want to be a

693
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: fan boy.

694
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, that's looky. What's like

695
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: Matt Forte? Yeah, yeah, Like we went to dinner before

696
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: the game, and so Greg's like buddies with all these guys. Yeah,

697
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: So we go to dinner and like Greg's like, hey,

698
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: you want to come to dinner with me. I'm like sure.

699
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: So we show up and we're sitting at the table

700
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: and like Matt Forte is like across the table like

701
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: three three, like seats down. The whole time, I'm like,

702
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: play in tomorrow. But like big fan of Matt Fote.

703
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: Like my roommate in college. My roommate in college is

704
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: a big, a big Bears fan, so he always talking

705
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: about Matt fourte and like Matt was the first guy

706
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: like big running back but like good wide zone runner,

707
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: but like could catch the ball, catch the ball the

708
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: backfield like big, and like you always just trying to

709
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: play it cool. And then you get in the game

710
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: and like the first time he gets the ball and

711
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: like somebody tackles him, like you kind of like want

712
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: to be close to him when he stands up so

713
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: you can be like and you get up there him.

714
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: I thought he was so like your rookie year. It's

715
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: like all like first that's very true. And so you're

716
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out, like the biggest guy is

717
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: he physicals you da da da. It's like when you

718
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: saw Barry Sanders, like you're like a little kid again,

719
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: which is cool.

720
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: It's so cool that part.

721
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: And so you know, we talked about the Hall of Fame,

722
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 4: opportunity and people that were like game changers and Luke,

723
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you. I tell everybody you're the

724
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: best linebacker I've ever played with.

725
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: Agree on the.

726
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: Same side with and seeing my own eyes, and that

727
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: just takes me back. I had to write a couple

728
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: things down because I actually studied Luke Keigley for the

729
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: first time and just didn't go it like I just

730
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: know Luke.

731
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: It's fine. He's like the nicest person ever.

732
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: But on top of all those things, I was there

733
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: in twenty thirteen when you played against the New Orleans

734
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: Saints and you hauled off and had twenty four tackles

735
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: one interception.

736
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: You literally hit everything moving that day.

737
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what was in you that day, but

738
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: that very next year I was like, dude, I'm trying

739
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: to go there, and it was because of your performance

740
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: and what I saw you do that day, So I

741
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 4: don't that was one thing. The twenty four tackles absolutely amazing.

742
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 4: That'sh went back to you. Nothton said he had twenty six.

743
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know that. It's like an

744
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: NFL record.

745
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: He'd had eighteen I think that day and a pick.

746
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: So everybody was balling.

747
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: Everybody was baling. That's why you left.

748
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: That's what I was like, dude, I gotta get out

749
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: of here, all right. But in college, Luke, this is not.

750
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: You just didn't show up being a baller in the

751
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 4: league like we all thought you did.

752
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: But in college you bawled.

753
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: You went from a three star at Saint X in Cincinnati,

754
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 4: so you landed at BC. You started eleven games because

755
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: Herzlik had cancer, so you stepped right in, dude. As

756
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: a freshman, you had one hundred and fifty eight tackles.

757
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: As a sophomore, you had one hundred and eighty three tackles.

758
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: How about you said as a freshman, say that one

759
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty eight tackles as.

760
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: A freshman as a true freshman, that's a lot of times.

761
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: You had one hundred and fifty eight tackles.

762
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: All right. I know you don't like bragging about this.

763
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: You never tell anybody you do it, bro all.

764
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: Right, you had one hundred and eighty three tackles as

765
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: a sophomore. At one point you had twenty one straight

766
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: games with ten plus tackles heading into.

767
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: Your junior year.

768
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: This is all your first two years of college. You

769
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: were up for the buckets, all these other things that

770
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: you want. You won the buckets that year, and then

771
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: as a junior you broke the record and had one

772
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 4: hundred and ninety one tackles as a junior on a

773
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: four and eight team. The record for the NCAA is

774
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: one hundred and ninety three tackles in a season.

775
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: You didn't have a bowl game, or you would have

776
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: broke it.

777
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: This is just something you always do. How have you

778
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: always had this knack for the football? The best thing

779
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: about that was Dick Buckets actually gave you the war

780
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: two weeks before the war was actually supposed to be presented.

781
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was No. I think it's super dose.

782
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: I found all this out about Louke Keithley. I had

783
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: no idea.

784
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: I had zero clue.

785
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: I think you guys would agree. I think football is

786
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: a lot of its situation. Like you got to be

787
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: in the right situation. So the defenses that I've always

788
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: played in have been advantageous for Like my playing style

789
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: put me in the middle of a four to three

790
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: and everything's inside out to the football. So I think

791
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: situation helps a lot. And I had when I got

792
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: to BC, I had great older guys. We had a

793
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: great guy named Wes Davis, like U ro smart older guy,

794
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: great teacher, could get guys lined up and just like calm. Yeah,

795
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: because I'm not sometimes very calm. No.

796
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: When I got here, that was one of the biggest

797
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 4: compliences game, Like, dude, you just it just helped so

798
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 4: much in the back.

799
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: To just like keep it calm, We're good, keep it calm.

800
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: And I Wes Davis was a guy that was super

801
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: super good. I had a great coach, Bill McGovern. Fast

802
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: forward to I come to Carolina. It was like four

803
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: to three. Got to play in the middle. Mcdee was great. Obviously,

804
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: coach was great, and then I had like I had Thomas,

805
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: I had John Beeson, we had Chuck. Then on offense

806
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: it was like Greg Gross Khalil. We just had dudes

807
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: that made all you had to do is play football. Yeah,

808
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: you didn't have to worry about anything else because if

809
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: you had a question it got answered. It's like all

810
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: you had to do is play football. And then once

811
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: you get to just being able to play football, it

812
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: was like how well do you prepare? Like I love

813
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: that stuff like that was my favorite thing about football

814
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: was like get doing practice, go sit in there, watch

815
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: tate learn, like do it at your pace. And then

816
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: I think the thing about tape is like boring, boring, boring, boring.

817
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: And then you go to a game and you like

818
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: see four or five plays and you're like, damn, I

819
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: watched that. Yeah, and then it's like boom boom boom,

820
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: make a play and like you guys know, football is

821
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: like you make three plays that changed it course of

822
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: the game, no doubt, and you just hope that you

823
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: can be on the good side of those plays. So

824
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: I think for me, I think situationally, like my defenses

825
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: were always advantageous to me. We were always really good

826
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: upfront in college and at Carolina with you know, starring

827
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: KK and Dwan and Kyle Love. I'm probably missing some guys,

828
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: and then we had great older guys and our coaches

829
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: did a great job of always making sure we were prepared.

830
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: So like Mick d was always like what do you like?

831
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: What don't you like me? I don't like this, we

832
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: like that, blah blah blah out. I had spent a

833
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: majority of my career with our whole come my favorite. Yeah,

834
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: great teacher, great on the sideline, really good adjuster, really calm,

835
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: like in my headset good like little snippets of information.

836
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: We actually played Arizona in the playoffs twenty so it

837
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: would have been it's been twenty fifteen playoffs, so the

838
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: year before, so twenty fourteen, it was the playoffs were

839
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: obviously in fifteen. Is the end of the game and

840
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: they need to play and we're in Cover two and

841
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: he gives me the call and he's like, hey, he's like,

842
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: watch Fitzgerald in the slot on a scene. All right, cool,

843
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: that's like all we said. He said, hey, Cover two,

844
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: tell TV this. He said, watch fits in the scene

845
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: at number two. It's like perfect. So they break the huddle,

846
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: it come out and three by one, Larry's in the

847
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: scene and I was like all right. And so they

848
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: run a seam ball and it's like you guys know

849
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: how it is, like stuff happens like in slow motion,

850
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: like perfectly. I'm running the scene, the ball gets thrown.

851
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: I was like, no way, no way, He's freaking perfect.

852
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: And so I'm running, I jump up, I hit it,

853
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: Trey catches in the end zone. Meals like game over.

854
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: And so then I come run into the sideline. There

855
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: was like great job, Blue and Alice standing on the

856
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: sideline like just waiting waiting for me to be like thanks,

857
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: al And He's just just sitting there behind everybody like

858
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: sitting at me like this and I'm like, thanks, Al,

859
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: He's like, I got you. But like I just football

860
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: is such like a situational thing to have success. Like

861
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: some guys like Trump that I was. I think more

862
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: of a product of like a great situation here in Carolina, right,

863
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: it was a real situation. I think it's real though,

864
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: Like you guys would agree, No.

865
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I agree with that. One of

866
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: the craziest things about this sport is you never get

867
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: to finish the way you want to. Yeah, Like my

868
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: last play in this stadium tor an Aco, and I

869
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: was done, and I knew marcrew was over. Did my

870
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: little retirement video and things like that. You same way.

871
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: Kind of injuries kind of led to retirement. And I

872
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: know in in your retirement video you said I know

873
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: in my heart it's the right thing to do. Yeah,

874
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: why why did that make you say it?

875
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: I just love football like I love playing. I enjoy it,

876
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: like I love I love this team. Yeah, I love

877
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: this organization. I love the city. I love like the interact,

878
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: like I love just going in and like being around

879
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: the guys, like I love the whole sea, like I

880
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: love the whole yearly process from like training or OTA's

881
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: where it's like back to school and it's like serious,

882
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: but it's like not that serious because you already know

883
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: the defense because it's the seventh time they've installed it,

884
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: and you're just with your boys and like you're working

885
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: on stuff and getting better. And then then in like

886
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: the time between that and training camp, it's like boom,

887
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I really got to rip offseason workouts. And then training

888
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: camp shows up and it's like like then now you're

889
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: like kind of getting excited the seasons here, and then

890
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: you play a season. It's freaking awesome, and you're around

891
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: the guys and you're traveling, you're going to games and

892
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: you get to play guys. If you love the game,

893
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: you love the game. And I loved it, and I

894
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: think I was really sad because it's final, Like you're

895
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: dumb football, Like you're done, Like you don't you can't

896
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: go like play pick up basketball. You can't like if

897
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: you're a golfer and you retire from playing golf, you

898
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: go play golf, like you can't play football anymore. Like

899
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: it's done, Like football is over, and I think it's

900
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: just very final, and it like you spent so much

901
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: time growing up and playing football and then all of

902
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like gone, You're like, damn, I can't

903
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: play football anymore.

904
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: I want to know this, Luke, because I figured you'd

905
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: be sad, but I would like to know the reason

906
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 4: why you thought it was done. Like was it because

907
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 4: of injuries and you're like, you know what, I'm scared

908
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: of that part of it, or is it because you

909
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: thought like maybe I slipped in my game was starting

910
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: to go down.

911
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: I just wasn't. I wasn't able to play. I think

912
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: I had some stuff that was bugging me, and I

913
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: just knew that the team, like this is what the

914
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: team expects from me, And if I know I can't

915
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: give them that, then I'm not doing anybody any face.

916
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: It was exactly what I thought it was.

917
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like mentally, like I can still play, but

918
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: like physically I've got certain things that like are gonna

919
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: prevent me that I that won't get better, Like they're

920
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: not gonna get better. Yeah, like I'm fine, but like

921
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: they're not gonna get better. So like I can't go

922
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: out there and like maybe get hurt again or like

923
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: turn something down or like I'm not gonna run through

924
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: that guy like I used to and selfishly it's like,

925
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: maw dude that I'll go play seventy percent and like

926
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: be around the guys and blah blah blah. But like

927
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: in your heart, you're like, man, I can't do that

928
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: because they're relying on me to be here, like Shack,

929
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: like they're running a gap scheme. Boom, I got to

930
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: bang that guy back to Shack, like Shacks expecting me

931
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: to do that, and if I, man, I turn it down,

932
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: put Shack in a bad spot, which puts our defense

933
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: in a bad spot, which puts the whole team in

934
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: a bad spot. It's just not I don't think it's

935
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: fair to anybody. If you know in your heart you're like, man,

936
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: I can't do it anymore, then you're done.

937
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so once so once you retired. I know, for me,

938
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: I thought I had it kind of figured out, and

939
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: then actually being retired, I'm kind of trying to figure

940
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: it out and go through that whole transition that process.

941
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: Do you think you had it figured out once you're retired?

942
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: No, because I thought it was. I didn't think I

943
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: was going to be done. When I got done. I

944
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: thought I would have kept playing. So you know, it's

945
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: one of those things I think you, I think it's fine.

946
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know what I was doing, but

947
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: I think you just got to try to figure it out.

948
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: So like I worked for a team, I worked for

949
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: the team in the front office for a year. That

950
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: didn't really do anything for me. Like it was great,

951
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: I learned a ton, I had a great experience, like,

952
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: but I knew. I was like, man, this isn't for me.

953
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: So then the next year I loved I loved the hunt.

954
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: I loved the bow hunt in the fall, and I've

955
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: never been able to do that. So that next year

956
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: I did that. And then then after that was over,

957
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: that was probably took me into like January, and I

958
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: was like, man, I need to like find something to

959
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: like really do. And so then I just started. I

960
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: did the radio with the team, which is awesome. I

961
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: started coaching a football team, a youth football team with Greg.

962
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: We're on her third year doing that.

963
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: And he's very known around the city too. Luke and

964
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: Greg they.

965
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: Are travel We got Stu now, yeah, there's even a

966
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: team Charlotte Christian right, sharlt Christian. Yeah, and Stu's freaking awesome.

967
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: Like it's one of those things where you think you

968
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: know a lot about football, and then like you get

969
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: around like I'm used to like teaching running back, like boom,

970
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: here's your steps like blah blah blah, how you hold

971
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: the ball, how you get the handoff? What you're looking at?

972
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: And then Stu gets in there and you're like, I

973
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know anything, but yeah, back to

974
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: your your questions, like I still haven't like I'm still

975
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: like I'm still looking for like what it is. And

976
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: I think that's fine, but I think you just have

977
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: to continue to try stuff and continue to explore stuff

978
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: and eventually you figure out what it is.

979
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 5: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.

980
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 4: So what about you football? That's kind of like got

981
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: you going, like what is it? I think, because I

982
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: think it scratches the it's.

983
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: For you because what people don't know. I don't know

984
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: if everybody knows.

985
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: But Luke is loose, the one that doesn't have kids

986
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 4: out there as well. So Luke is just being a

987
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: great friend and a great teacher being around these youth,

988
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 4: these young people, these young kids, and do they understand

989
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 4: like that.

990
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: You are you and that you've been around And.

991
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: I think how old are the kids. They're in seventh

992
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: and eighth grade. Okay, so they were around they were

993
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: probably with six or seven when we were playing. Yeah,

994
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: so like we're they'd like know that we played. I don't.

995
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think that they're just

996
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: we're just their coaches. And but I'll tell you what,

997
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Like everyone's always like it's so nice that you coach

998
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: these kids, and I'm like, like I told you, you

999
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: don't understand, Like it's so fun. Like game plan, Like

1000
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Greg and I. Greg and I have conversations for like

1001
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: a half hour on the phone about like, hey, should

1002
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: our guy line up in the C gap or is

1003
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: he a D gap? Is he head up? Like all right,

1004
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: if he lines up heads up and he stands inside,

1005
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: does it we soft on the edge? Like all this stuff?

1006
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: And then and then the game like you show up.

1007
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: We play on Saturday mornings. Sin it's the first thing

1008
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: on Saturday morning. And it's awesome cause it's like I

1009
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: can't sit around. It's more nerve wracking than code, which

1010
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: it is to be a player, because like I'm sitting

1011
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: there like before the game, like I've got like my

1012
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: whole folder of like stuff, and like by the end

1013
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: of the end of before the game, it's like destroyed

1014
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: because I'm like folding it. I'm like nervous. I'm like

1015
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like how are we going to

1016
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: be today? Is our game playing good? I mean they're twelve,

1017
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: Like is our playing good? Like do we get Like

1018
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: the biggest thing you want to do is make sure

1019
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: you give the kids an opportunity to have success. That's it,

1020
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, That's it. And it's fun

1021
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: to like, you know, we handed out helmets like you

1022
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: guys know, it's like you.

1023
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: Know what it's like, and all these kids like.

1024
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: They're all trying to get like speed flexes. That's like

1025
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: the new Riddell helmet, and so we had every kid

1026
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: I think got a speed flex, but when they walked

1027
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: in there were some of the old ride Ol speeds

1028
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: like no flex and all the kids are like like

1029
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: you can hear them in the back. I won't get

1030
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: that one, and so like, but it reminds you when

1031
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: you were a little kid again of like playing football,

1032
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: and like they play full cause they play football because

1033
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: they love it. And like now they're in a grade school,

1034
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: so we practice in the high school's practicing like the

1035
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: varsity teams on the other side of the field, and

1036
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: you remember when you're growing up, you're like, man, like,

1037
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: one day, I want to be I want to be them. Yeah,

1038
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: like I want to be I want to be those kids.

1039
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: And so it kind of takes you back to what

1040
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: it's like to be you know, when you got your

1041
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: your helmet and you got your shoulder pads and you

1042
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: went home and like you just roar it around the

1043
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: house because like you were like made up, you made

1044
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: up these stupid reasons why but you just wanted to

1045
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: wear Like, yo, mam, I gotta get used to wearing

1046
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: my I gotta get used to wearing my gear.

1047
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: You gotta wears a TV in my helmet.

1048
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: You're like, and they're like, what do you know? You don't,

1049
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: but you just wanted to wear it, you know. And

1050
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: like they had the same helmets the older kids have.

1051
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: So you get the game plan, you get the call defense,

1052
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: you get to coach these kids, like you get to

1053
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: see them get better. Yeah, it's just it's it's I

1054
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: think it's just as fun for us it is for

1055
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: the kids, for sure. I know.

1056
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: One of the things I remember Rivera saying when we're

1057
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 3: here is be where your feet are at. You say

1058
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: that all the time. I mean, we've loved that. I

1059
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: love that quote. Yeah, so you're the coach. What's one

1060
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 3: of the things you've tried to instill in these young kids,

1061
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: Like what's a quote or was something that you say

1062
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: all the time?

1063
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: I think effort. I think your effort is a decision

1064
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: that you make, like you might get beat that's cool.

1065
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: But we just teach like effort inconsistency, and like we're

1066
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: not going We're gonna teach you how to do it

1067
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: what we think is the right but there's always a

1068
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: million ways to do it, but we think is the

1069
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: right way. And the reason that we're teaching you that

1070
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: way is for you to have success. So like we're

1071
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: going to be consistent on you. We're going to tell

1072
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: you when you did a good job, when you didn't

1073
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: do a good job, We're going to try to make

1074
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: sure that, hey, this is what happened, this is what

1075
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: we can do to get better, and these are our

1076
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: principles and why we teach it this way, Like especially

1077
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: on defense, it's like progression, like at corner, it's like

1078
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: we're getting crushed on like smash concepts. So it's like, hey,

1079
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: progression one, you're on one in your back pedal, he sits,

1080
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: looked at two, open up, come right to you. He

1081
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: goes away, squeeze. So it's like for us, it's like

1082
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: your effort is a decision you make and then just

1083
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: being consistent and listening, Like if you do those things,

1084
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: you're good. And I think all these kids look for

1085
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: is they they want to know like who's in charge.

1086
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: They want to know like what's expected, and they want

1087
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: to know like are you going to be consistent with them?

1088
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: And I think as long as you're consistent with them,

1089
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: like these kids are great, Like they're smart, they're tough,

1090
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: they learn. If you're just consistent, I think they know

1091
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: exactly where they stand.

1092
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: I love that.

1093
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 4: I always tell my daughter who's gotten into basketball, like,

1094
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 4: efforts are non negotiable. Yeah, Like that should be a

1095
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: non negotiable with sports, like I shouldn't have to ask

1096
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: you to play harder, Like, yeah.

1097
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: That should just come with it.

1098
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 4: I'm glad that you're teaching that because I'm on that

1099
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: all the time with my kids and even when I

1100
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 4: come to my son's flag football team, I'm like, dude,

1101
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: if you ain't running, you ain't playing, and next you know,

1102
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: all of them are running.

1103
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: When it's like like, hey, but if you're not going

1104
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: to run, like we'll take you out. Well, I don't

1105
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: care if you're the best player in the team, I

1106
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: don't care. If you're not running, We're gonna with somebody else.

1107
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: Heather got mad at me because I benched my son.

1108
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 4: Dude a little slow off the sideline. Bro, while you

1109
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 4: walk in, just go back over there, just sit over there.

1110
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 4: I'll go get somebody else. Okay, Bob, you know what

1111
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying. That's just what it's going to be. But

1112
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: if i'm I'm not going to.

1113
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 2: Back off my line.

1114
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: So then effort is. Effort is automatically. It's a non

1115
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: negotiable on any team I've had. But Luke is really

1116
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: really good on that. The thing I want to know

1117
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 4: about Luke is his coaching style is are you when

1118
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 4: you're calling the plays? What's your favorite defensive play call?

1119
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Like you?

1120
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: Are you more aggressive? You come from a more of

1121
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: a zone scheme.

1122
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: But we play a lot of zone. Okay, but in

1123
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: youth football, the more guys you got going out the

1124
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, you're better. You have to you have

1125
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: to make you have to make them block you. Yeah,

1126
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: I agree, right, make them block you, Okay, I mean

1127
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want some of these other

1128
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: teams from Charlotte watching this and figuring out how we're

1129
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna call stuff. But what I will say is make

1130
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: them block you.

1131
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: I like that. I know what you're going with. We

1132
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 2: talk after this where you're going with love line.

1133
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: So when I I know when and when I got

1134
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: to ask to do this show, I didn't want to

1135
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 3: do it alone. Yeah, I figured I had one guy

1136
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: in mine. This is this old gray haired fella right here,

1137
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: Salton purple guy. And one of the best decisions I

1138
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: could have made for us to do NFL Player Second Acts,

1139
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 3: and it's been dope. So I guess my question to

1140
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: you is, how did you get into the youth football?

1141
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: And was it? Was it something that Greg called you

1142
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: or you called Greg? Like, how did that even come about?

1143
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 2: Good question?

1144
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: So, Tate, what was what year? So Tate will be

1145
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: I think Tate was was going in the fifth grade,

1146
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: Greg's son, Yeah, and he wanted to coach. Tate wanted

1147
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: to play, and I think if Tate was gonna play,

1148
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: Greg wanted the coach and Greg's dad was a super

1149
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: successful head coach in New Jersey. Want a bunch of

1150
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: state championships, and he lives in Charlotte.

1151
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: Now he's intense as well.

1152
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great. He's consistent, Like he's smart, like great coach,

1153
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: done it a long time, great with quarterbacks and so

1154
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: like Greg and his dad were coaching, and I was like, Greg,

1155
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: I'll coach, Like, Okay, I needed foot everybody needs everybody

1156
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: needs football, and and I get to hang out with

1157
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: my bud.

1158
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1159
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's like the perfect like combination.

1160
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: Now we got Stu, but Greg, it was really Greg

1161
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: that got it all going. So it's been it's been

1162
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: a ton of fun.

1163
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: Where do you see yourself at in ten years and

1164
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: would you like to coach at a higher level than

1165
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: where you are at right now?

1166
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: You see yourself?

1167
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: I think I think coaching like NFL would be freaking awesome,

1168
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: Like I would love that.

1169
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: It's really hard for like greats to come and coach,

1170
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: like you know that struggle dynamic that people have always

1171
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: had with that.

1172
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the teaching side of it like

1173
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: is what I miss.

1174
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: Like like high level.

1175
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: Stuff like boom, he comes up and runs a choice

1176
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: like this is where he's gonna push off. This is

1177
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: where you can pull him because they can't see it,

1178
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: Like this is a hand he's gonna come and push with.

1179
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: So if he's gonna run, come and run a choice,

1180
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: like put your eyes on this hand because this is

1181
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: that push hand once you Like, I would love to

1182
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: do that.

1183
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: For those that don't know the choice rut. It is

1184
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: like an option. I can go both ways.

1185
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, And but I just the time that

1186
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: those guys, Like I give those guys so much credit,

1187
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: the amount of time they you.

1188
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: Know, I couldn't do it.

1189
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: They spend so much don't want to do it, and

1190
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: I largely think it's like everyone's like why are they

1191
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: there so long? Because like stuff has to get done.

1192
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: It's like and it's every week is the same thing

1193
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: because they can't get ready the week before because they

1194
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: got to get ready for that game. Like the amount

1195
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: of like drawing cards, labeling stuff, commitment committments, setting up

1196
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: like practice scripts so that way practice runs smoothie. Like

1197
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: I think we all took that for granted. But I

1198
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: would love to just come in and like I just

1199
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: want to coach football and like and leave, Like I

1200
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: don't want to draw cards. I don't watch Tate. I

1201
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: want to come in at practice and like coach and

1202
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: then bounce. But like you know, you can't do that

1203
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: because these guys have put all the time in and

1204
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: they want it done a certain way, and if you

1205
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: don't do it that way, you're putting your confusing everybody.

1206
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 1: I'm confusing that the players because I'm telling them something

1207
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: different than the coaches. I respect those coaches so much.

1208
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: It's like it's just a hard dynamic. But I love

1209
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: like I would love to like teach and show them

1210
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: and just based on like experience doesn't mean my way

1211
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: is the right way, but I like doing it this way.

1212
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: Like what do you think? So I think the time

1213
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: issue is.

1214
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 4: Like the biggest So ball you'll be doing ball, just football,

1215
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 4: He's going to be doing ball. But you just explained,

1216
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 4: like something what people need to understand is everything that

1217
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 4: Luke said. Every player at every position, there's a lot

1218
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: of information that we have to process in a short

1219
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 4: amount of time. Like the play that you just describe

1220
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 4: is hand choice, route, the splits, the formation, all that,

1221
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 4: Like that's a lot of information and process. Now dial

1222
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 4: that down a little bit to seventh.

1223
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: Eighth grade middle school football. How do you handle it

1224
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: when you're trying to tell a player, because I think

1225
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 3: I know how your mind works, yeah, like your full complex,

1226
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: Like how much information do you give a kid or

1227
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: do you even get mad at the kid when they

1228
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: can't process it? Like how much do you have to

1229
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: dial it back down for a youthful?

1230
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: I think you teach like pure fundamentals, So like he's

1231
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: taken on a block like front foot forward, you strike,

1232
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: like if I'm hitting the guy that's right here, this

1233
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: foots forward, and then you show him like why so

1234
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: like you'll be like hey, like if you set in

1235
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: an edge, like I could be like, hey, punch him

1236
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: in the chest, it controls outside wrist boom strip, get

1237
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: over the top, gets stacked him and get vertical. Or

1238
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: you can be like hey, inside foot forward, punch him

1239
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: and maintain outside leverage and they're like okay, and you

1240
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: show him why. So, like you get him and you

1241
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: have him stand like like this like the wrong way,

1242
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: and you just push him and they go back and

1243
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm like all right, I was like, now switch your

1244
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: feet now when you push them, they're like strong, and

1245
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: so I think when you teach him something and you

1246
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: explain something to him, you have to be able to

1247
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: show him like why. And so I think if you

1248
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: can really show them why, then these kids, like I

1249
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: don't have kids obviously, but like these kids at this age,

1250
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: like they're smart, like they understand what you're saying. They

1251
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: understand why you're trying to do it. They might not

1252
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: be able to like motor skills, why is like as

1253
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: precise as you want to, but they they know exactly

1254
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Yeah, So I think showing them

1255
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: in like fundamentals like this is why we tackle this

1256
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: way head up, Like Greg's really good with the offensive

1257
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: lineman with like we teach like three or four like

1258
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: blocking schemes like steps like footwork, so boom. Once you

1259
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: know all the footwork, you can do everything. So just

1260
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: keep it simple, keep it fundamentally, explain to them like

1261
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: why we're doing it, and show them why we're doing it,

1262
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: and then I think they can tie it all together.

1263
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: They're smart. They maybe have just never like seen it before,

1264
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: so you have to be patient in that essence, but

1265
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: like they're just the kids are.

1266
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: Great, successful high school, successful Cryl's career, successful high school career,

1267
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: very successful NFL career and potentially one day hopefully getting

1268
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame. Amazing journey and great story.

1269
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: All the people that have helped you succeed to this

1270
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: point in life right now, who would those people be

1271
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: on your personal Mount Rushmore?

1272
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Get four?

1273
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: You get four.

1274
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 2: I think I know one that's going to be on there.

1275
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: I think my parents are two.

1276
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: I knew mom was gonna make it.

1277
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 3: My mom and dad.

1278
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: I just think that they've always been there. I think

1279
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: they've always been there. I think my family.

1280
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: So we'll put you can do that as one?

1281
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: What is do one? Because then that'd be like I

1282
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: have two, I have two brothers and my mom and dad.

1283
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: So like I think your support system get you, get

1284
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: you there, right, So like we'll put them as one.

1285
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: Like they were super supportive. They cared about you as

1286
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: like they cared about me and my brothers as individuals,

1287
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 1: not as like a football player. Like they came to games,

1288
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: they supported me, They answered the phone call when you

1289
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: need something, If you need something, boom, they're there. Everything

1290
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: you need from your parents boom. I had, Like I

1291
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: never needed anything as a little kid. Everything that I

1292
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: needed I had and get everything you don't get everything

1293
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: you want, but they teach you like hard work, discipline,

1294
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: how to treat people, you know, all the little stuff

1295
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: that when you're younger like and then the older you get,

1296
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: you're like pretty good. So I think I think they

1297
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: are obviously number one. I think I think my high

1298
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: school coach was a guy that, like his name Steve Speckt.

1299
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: I think he really taught you like football and like

1300
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: effort and toughness and what it's like to be part

1301
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: of like a team, Like because you come in as

1302
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: a freshman, he's he's he watches you because I played

1303
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: freshman football JV. And then my junior year you play varsity,

1304
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: Like you don't really move like That's how my high

1305
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: school works. So he was always around you. You were

1306
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: expected to be there. You're expected to like hold up

1307
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: the U if you put that I went to Saint

1308
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: zavif you put the X on your helmet, like you

1309
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: better be held to a certain standard both at school,

1310
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: like in the classroom in the building, as well as

1311
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: like in sports and off the off the field out

1312
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: of the classroom at home. Like, so I think you

1313
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: kind of learned that. I think, like I'm gonna just

1314
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: kind of go maybe some coaches. Uh. I think Bill

1315
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: McGovern was my linebacker coach in college, and I think

1316
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: I learned like toughness from him, like you're a freshman,

1317
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: you get your you're getting your teeth kicked in no doubt,

1318
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: and it was like love like love, he loved us,

1319
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: but also like he knew the right way to like

1320
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: push us. Yeah this is hard, but like don't care.

1321
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: Don't care.

1322
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1323
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm gonna talk about all the

1324
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: guys that got me to the NFL. And then my

1325
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: college buddies were awesome, like we're still super tight, but

1326
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: they were so supportive. They were like my buddies in college,

1327
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: like they're just the they're the best. And then I

1328
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: think the one guy that helped me a lot, there's

1329
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: two guys that I think helped me a lot. Thomas

1330
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: Ye and then Thomas was fantastic and then Greg Greg

1331
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 1: was fantastic too. Just off season and the off season,

1332
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: Greg and I trained together, and Greg's been like a

1333
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: brother to me and in a lot of ways, like

1334
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: been to his house for like Christmas, Thanksgiving. I've been

1335
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: on trips with him, like him and him and Kara

1336
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: are fantastic, like they're just the best. And I think

1337
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: one thing that Greg showed me was how to train

1338
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: in the off season. And I was a young guy.

1339
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: I think I was going into year three when I

1340
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: started training here a full time in the off season,

1341
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: and it was like come on, like come on, like

1342
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: I got you and I did everything Greg didn I

1343
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: think that was a huge reason for success. Was like

1344
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: preparation in the off season. So I think my family.

1345
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: Steve Speck was like my first coach that I was like, like,

1346
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: this is how we're gonna play football. And then Bill

1347
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: McGovern in college was like super supportive, supported me leaving

1348
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: early out of school. Thomas I talked about Thomas forever

1349
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: and then and then Greg and like Kara and their

1350
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: family and him helping me in the offseason. I think

1351
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: that's like there's I mean, coach Rivera McDermott in this

1352
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: system allowed me to succeed. I think Al Hulkam our

1353
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: linebacker coach, giving me the freedom to, like Thomas and

1354
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: I like go play our game. Like like maybe we

1355
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: didn't do everything like according to how the playbook was designed,

1356
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: but I was like I trust you guys, Like if

1357
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: it works great, if it's not like that's on you guys,

1358
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: and so I just think your support system. I could

1359
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: keep going, but like I think that that combination of guys.

1360
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: That are missing fifteen people. No, no, when you're.

1361
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: Supposed to have four.

1362
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: I like it.

1363
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: You know, you put your divide. If it's sixteen, you

1364
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: divide it by four. It's four. Good.

1365
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good. I like it though, and so it's good. Hard.

1366
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 3: It's a hard thing to do.

1367
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 4: You're missing out, especially when Luke, you are genuine as

1368
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 4: you are. You've allowed so many great people in your life,

1369
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 4: and you've added so much value to so many others.

1370
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 4: I would tell anybody I lived at the View with

1371
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: Luke would like help me and my wife, like bring

1372
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 4: up groceries.

1373
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: He'd like go out of his way. He's the nicest person.

1374
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah for me. And then he hits a switch on

1375
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: the field.

1376
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 3: And then it turns into a complete cycle path.

1377
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: Call me down there, Calk, I got you.

1378
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 5: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back

1379
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 5: in a minute.

1380
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: You talked about your support system, and we usually end it.

1381
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 4: But it's okay, Thomas, We'll keep going. I want to

1382
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 4: know this from Luke because I've never got to know

1383
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 4: this I am. So I want to know because I

1384
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: want us to get a little bit of love from

1385
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 4: you because I've never asked you this. What did me

1386
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 4: and Peanut come into your locker room do for you guys?

1387
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 4: Because I remember when McDermott recruited me and I was

1388
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 4: the free agency and he was like, look, we got leaders,

1389
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: like we don't even need that much as far as

1390
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 4: that like, So I didn't think I had to do

1391
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 4: anything in the DV room.

1392
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: I found out I did. But he's like, I just

1393
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: want you to come give this, give.

1394
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 4: Us an attitude. That's all I need from you. He

1395
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 4: showed me the hit when I hit Steve Smith. He's like, dude,

1396
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 4: if you do, I want that, That's what I want.

1397
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: So I want you to tell us because we weren't

1398
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 4: here before, like what did we bring to you guys'

1399
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 4: locker room?

1400
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: So I think I think, rumps, you got to hear

1401
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: what in fourteen? Yeah, let's see here. I think we

1402
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: didn't have we didn't have a ton of consistency at

1403
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: that position. So I got here in twelve. We just

1404
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: we never had a safety back there that was like

1405
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: that was like going to be around for a while,

1406
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: Like we always signed dudes one year deals with the

1407
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: anticipation that they would be gone. So we signed you

1408
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: like household name. Everybody knew him, you knew the division.

1409
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: We felt good about that. But presence, like presence, I

1410
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: think is what you brought both in that room as

1411
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: like an older veteran guy. You had a lot of

1412
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: confidence in yourself and your ability, and so you didn't

1413
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: have a problem like helping other guys. And I think

1414
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: our team took off when we got a bunch of

1415
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: older guys that kept the mood like light yeah, because

1416
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: like I was very serious and I needed like some

1417
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: comic relief and fun. And I just felt like that

1418
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: room for us was young. It was, and you guys

1419
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: were very good. You were a very good like older presence,

1420
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: and you brought guys along. So like Rome, whatever Roman did,

1421
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: everybody did, wait room Fridays, road times. That's the one

1422
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: thing that I remember about you, Rome is like attitude, Yes, intensity,

1423
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: great dude, hard worker, lined up where you needed to be.

1424
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: Consistency like with Rome and YouTube pant, like you knew

1425
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: exactly what you're getting good days, bad days, Consistency and

1426
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: everything was like consistently high. You weren't like a consistently here,

1427
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: always consistently high. So I think when people are consistent,

1428
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: you know exactly what to expect. It makes your life easier.

1429
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: Call me down a lot on the field as far

1430
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: as like Rome and just like I'm like, all right,

1431
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: got you got you, chill out, You're right.

1432
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: Just the Rex. We're good. We're good, just real.

1433
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: That's how Roman. That's how Rome would be in a game,

1434
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: like we're good, I said, but but but road time

1435
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: on Fridays is the best best time around.

1436
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: Shirts, cut offs, shirt, no sleeves, allow sleeves, j no

1437
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: would go no shirt, would.

1438
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: Just can't wear sleeve. So I don't shoot. He was

1439
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: he was a Biden by the rules. But it was

1440
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: like one of those things like you brought something you

1441
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: you fit into what we were doing, but you also

1442
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: brought something that like guys could attach to and it's

1443
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: like a big deal. It was like we probably fifteen

1444
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: guys in there. We have the Juice Bros with with

1445
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: Lou Young with Young and Dean Marlowe, and like you

1446
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: made it so like Dean and Lou were two guys

1447
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: that were like practice squad guys and like they'd be

1448
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: up and down, up and down. But I feel like

1449
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: Roman you got you gave them like a voice in

1450
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,959
Speaker 1: that room to like be themselves. And like I think

1451
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: that their energy and fun and like not like comic relief,

1452
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: but like their presence was so fresh because we would

1453
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: be like during like we were tight, Like we'd get

1454
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: tight sometimes, but those guys would always just be like

1455
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: joking around and having fun because they knew, like I'm

1456
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: not playing on Sunday, so like I'm just gonna like

1457
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: bus chops have fun. But we didn't have that prior

1458
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: to that. And I think you brought like the ability

1459
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: and a space for guys to do that. And then Peanut,

1460
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: there's another guy in this room right now, he's sitting

1461
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: in the back. He's on his phone. I think you

1462
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: helped him a lot. Josh Norman. I think you helped

1463
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: Josh a lot. I think you brought an attitude on

1464
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: the field of like of toughness and the ball like

1465
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: the ball rules, like the ball rules all. And I

1466
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: think when you came in that year was like the

1467
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: perfect situation of like Rome was in year two, brought curtain,

1468
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: but it was like the guys we brought in the

1469
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: previous years was like it was like Roman you and

1470
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: then we added Jared Allen. Yeah, and like our team,

1471
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't ready to like be like Thomas, like

1472
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: wasn't ready for that. Like I didn't want to do that,

1473
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to play football and I wanted to

1474
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: like lead on the field and like play hard and

1475
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: practice hard and like do everything the right way. Like

1476
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: you guys came in and you guys took a lot

1477
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: of that like away from some of us younger guys

1478
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: like KK and Starr and I were like young, and

1479
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: you guys like took that off our plate. And I

1480
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: think you guys helped, like mcdee a lot, because you

1481
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: guys are older guys. You guys had a ton of

1482
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: success and when we'd get tight, like you guys could

1483
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: like bring it all back and like make it fun

1484
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: and like it's not that serious and like but on

1485
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: our bus, Peanut when Peanuts, so that the year Peanut

1486
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: was gone, the bus got boring because Peanuts sat on

1487
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: our bus and we all had the same seats, and

1488
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: Peanut like we'd be like sometimes I'd be in the

1489
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: bus like don't want to talk to anybody, and you'd

1490
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: be like playing air hockey on your phone, were hockey

1491
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: on the phone. I'm like, god, this guy final play

1492
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: and you play and you're like, I feel better about myself.

1493
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: So I think it's just like so like, I think

1494
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: that's one thing that like good players bring is like, yeah,

1495
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: you bring something on the field, But I think great

1496
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: players are guys that bring stuff on the field, but

1497
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: then they affect like the team off the field. And

1498
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a I don't think that it's

1499
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: a coincidence that, like our locker room was that fun.

1500
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: Think about the young guys in your guys room, Like

1501
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: you guys had a young tray butdding really good player

1502
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: Ben They budding, really good young player. And then we

1503
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: had our boy twenty four. You know, you just didn't know,

1504
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: you just you just you never knew what you get.

1505
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: Got to put a lasso on it. Yes, Josh should

1506
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: be playing games and Josh should be playing doing Josh.

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01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: You gotta let you gotta let Josh do Josh, no doubt.

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01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: And then it was like who's taking turns making sure

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01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: that Josh is okay. I'd like, roll, Hey, you're up, bro, we.

1510
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:57,479
Speaker 2: Got him s all right?

1511
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: It's good and would say he just let him alone alone.

1512
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 3: I love you from who you are to me.

1513
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: To me, that's what you.

1514
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: Guys brought like a just like a presence and like attitude,

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01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: Like I know you brought attitude, and you definitely brought

1516
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: attitude that like I like, I love that, Like I

1517
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: need guys that have like that. I love smart football players.

1518
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: Like my head pops off.

1519
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I know it does.

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, my head pops off. I love guys that are

1521
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: smart and guys that are like mean mean, but like, dudes,

1522
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: we can just do this. And you guys were exactly that.

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01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: It's exactly what we needed. And I think as we

1524
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: started to like really like ramp up and have that

1525
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: little window of success that we had, I think you

1526
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: guys are a big part of it because you guys

1527
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: helped set the standard for on the defense side of

1528
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: the ball, for like what was acceptable, because hey, this

1529
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: is how Peanut did it, Boom, this is what we

1530
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: did with Rome, like and it's just it's easy. It's easy.

1531
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: And the other thing too, that I think you guys

1532
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: did that was really good was like if somebody's trying

1533
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: to make a coaching point and their coaching they're coaching it,

1534
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 1: and they coach an older guy in the older guy

1535
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: like you guys have brains and you know, like man,

1536
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't really want to do it that way, but

1537
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: like I'll do it because it helps the team. Yeah,

1538
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,479
Speaker 1: and once once young guys see that boom, like hey,

1539
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: Wilkes is getting on Peanut for his bail technique, he

1540
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: needs to switch it up, or how Roman is playing

1541
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: a curl flat, or how Roman's coming off the edge.

1542
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: If they if young guys see an older guy getting

1543
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: coached and the older guy just being like wearing it

1544
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: and be like right and then doing it, then the

1545
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: young guy don't have a choice. Or or like you run,

1546
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: you run off the field, or you give good effort,

1547
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: or you you talk and communicate playing safe safety, or

1548
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: like you playing through I know you dinged your knee

1549
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: and you kept playing like toughness, like you know what

1550
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, and you had that you had the

1551
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: elbow with that. When young guys see old guys do

1552
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,879
Speaker 1: it in successful order guys, then it's like not a choice,

1553
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: Like if you want to play, then be like him,

1554
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: and him is Rome Harper, Peanut Tillman like Chuck, like

1555
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: you want to play football and play defense in the

1556
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, Like that's what we expect. And it's easier

1557
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: to point to a guy than it is to like

1558
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: draw this guy on a board and be like, we

1559
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: want all of this stuff. If guys can't see it,

1560
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: then they don't know how to do it, versus like

1561
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: with you guys, it's like we have a corner that'll

1562
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 1: do it, we have it safety that'll do it. We've

1563
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: got a big guy up front in Dwan and Chuck

1564
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: that would do it, and then we have Thomas. It's

1565
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: like when young guys showed it showed up. Once you

1566
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: two got there, then it was like complete from all

1567
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: three levels like front backers, outside, corners, safeties. Once you

1568
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: guys got there, it was like complete. And then it

1569
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: was like, buddy, you want to play, you gotta be

1570
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: like this.

1571
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 4: So oh man, I appreciate that. I wanted to hear that.

1572
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 4: That was great. You want to have flowers, dog. I

1573
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 4: never asked you that.

1574
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: That's why I just want to know from.

1575
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: Outside it was fun. You guys are just fun man.

1576
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: Like we did it was fun. Man.

1577
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 4: We've had a good time and I got I got

1578
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 4: Luke to hate Roddy White too.

1579
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: Oh. Man, I I saw Roddy, you know what I did.

1580
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: I saw Riddy a couple of years ago, and I

1581
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,759
Speaker 1: was like, man, I was like, Roddy, Man, I respect

1582
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: your game, bro, I respect it. He looked at me

1583
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 1: and smiled because he knows, like, dude, there'd be sometimes, man,

1584
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: we can keep going. But Roddy and I so Josh

1585
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: no U or Trey picked the ball off in twenty fourteen, yep,

1586
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: I mean in in Atlanta and Atlanta and Roddy was

1587
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: running like a seam ball and like the ball got

1588
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: thrown like the other side of the field, and I

1589
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: saw and I and like Roddy and I have been

1590
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: getting into it all game. Trey picks his ball. He's

1591
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: running down the field and like Roddy and I are

1592
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: still like fighting. We're like on the ground, like freaking,

1593
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: like smashing me, like I'm on top of him. Then

1594
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: like he's on top of me and like pushing and

1595
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: shoving and like punching, and Trey's like running down the

1596
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: field to score a touchdown, and Roddy and I are

1597
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: like so like we're in our own world, like nothing's happening,

1598
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: but like what's right here. Yeah, so but then you

1599
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: see it. Then you see him, like a couple years later,

1600
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, I respect your game. You're a great

1601
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: football player. Man.

1602
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 4: We went in the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame together

1603
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 4: and I had to.

1604
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: Like you talked to him. I did.

1605
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, his mom did not like me.

1606
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: Though. That's cool.

1607
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 3: That's cool, that's all.

1608
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: But you know what, but you know what, you know

1609
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: what like with guys like that, like I want Roddy

1610
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: to be on my football team. I would go the guy.

1611
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: He's like one of those guys you were going to fight, Like,

1612
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:23,520
Speaker 1: I'll take Roddy.

1613
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: And all his teammates love him too.

1614
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 1: I would have loved him like it was almost like

1615
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: it was almost like damn, man, Like you don't want

1616
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: to say to him on our team, but you can't

1617
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,839
Speaker 1: like hi, because can't. But he like he played football

1618
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: the right way man.

1619
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 3: Like he was tough.

1620
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: He's just tough like real, he's just a good football player, man,

1621
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: Like I can't hate on that.

1622
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 3: I hated him when I played, but I respect his game.

1623
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't hate him anymore.

1624
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: I don't hate him anymore.

1625
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 3: I said when I played him, Yeah, I didn't.

1626
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: Like him, but I like him now he's tough. Man.

1627
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: I like him. Good game.

1628
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 3: Appreciate you man, of course I appreciate you coming on

1629
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 3: the show, blessing all some stories and things for my flowers.

1630
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: This was this was on man. We should have had

1631
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 3: you on like years ago.

1632
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: It's all good.

1633
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: Man, he's getting closer to the Hall of Fame call.

1634
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 3: So he's getting closer to the Hall of Fame. Just

1635
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 3: so and leg you know when you get that call,

1636
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: because I'm putting it out in the universe.

1637
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna be there front row.

1638
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 4: Well it helps when Patrick Willis goes and Patrick Willis

1639
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 4: does not, doesn't have the accolades that you have.

1640
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, same type of year. It's all right. We'll

1641
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: now you're talk about. You don't need to say another word.

1642
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 3: Peanut he Thank you to all of our followers. Please subscribe,

1643
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,800
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1644
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,880
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1645
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,599
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1646
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,120
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1647
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,120
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