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Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: My guest today is Huda Reamer, also known as the

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Speaker 1: Pew Pew Jew. Hi Yahuda, so nice to have you on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: So I've been a long time follower, and I love

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Speaker 1: that you are a major voice who encourages Jews to

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Speaker 1: get armed. What is wrong with our people that were

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Speaker 1: not armed to the teeth already.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a history lesson in itself. You know,

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Speaker 3: you kind of have to go back in short to

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Speaker 3: Eastern Europe and the agues where you had grums, and

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Speaker 3: you had all these antis America attacks of Jews living

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Speaker 3: in little stettels and little you know, communities.

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Speaker 2: A fast forward to FDR with the New Deal.

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Speaker 3: Then you have the Holocaust, and you have a bunch

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Speaker 3: of America, a bunch of Jewish refugees coming from Eastern

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Speaker 3: Europe and unfortunately with nothing on their back following the

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Speaker 3: Hall of cost. So what you have is a bunch

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Speaker 3: of refugees coming to America and the only thing they

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Speaker 3: have is all these social welfare programs. So Jews tend

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Speaker 3: to become very devoted to the Democrats who passed you know,

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Speaker 3: fdos a Democrats, so become very become very devoted. Start,

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Speaker 3: you know, if the Democrat Party says something, you know,

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Speaker 3: they were the ones that helped us, so we're going

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Speaker 3: to be, you know, loyal to them. And of course,

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Speaker 3: as the sixties and everything has changed, Democratic Party.

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Speaker 2: Became Liberal party.

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Speaker 3: And now now you have all these Jews who are

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Speaker 3: still passed down from parents from generation to generation of

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Speaker 3: anti gunners. Right.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting because I am a lifelong conservative. The

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Speaker 1: whole Jews being liberals is not true in immigrant communities.

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Speaker 1: Like when you look at a map of like Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: for example, and how Brooklyn votes. You know, the Syrian Jews,

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Speaker 1: the ex Soviet Jews, the Iraqi Jews, the Israeli Jews,

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Speaker 1: they're all Republicans. And it's the Jews that never had

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Speaker 1: any strife in America who maybe came here a turn

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Speaker 1: of the century in the early nights, who missed the

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Speaker 1: programs and missed the Holocaust and missed the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones who seemed to lean left. But what

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Speaker 1: I want to say is I was always a conservative,

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Speaker 1: and I still wasn't armed, and I was always a

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Speaker 1: big Second Amendment proponent, but I never actually shot a gun.

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Speaker 1: I never owned a gun, and now I'm a daily carrier.

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Speaker 1: I don't know actually how to move people the way

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Speaker 1: I moved. I guess I want to ask you what's

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Speaker 1: our strategy here?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the strategy is just education.

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Speaker 3: You need to explain to Jews as often as you

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Speaker 3: can when, especially when they ask, hey, look at our history.

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Speaker 3: We should be the most vocal proponents of the Second Amendment,

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Speaker 3: Yet our silence is deafening. We should be out there

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Speaker 3: walking arms with gun owners of America Firearms Paul Coalition's

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Speaker 3: Second Amendments Foundation. Yet Jews have become a If you

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Speaker 3: are a gun owner, most Jews are closet gun owners.

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Speaker 3: And even if you do go to the range and

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Speaker 3: are you know, talk about the fact that you're a

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Speaker 3: gun owner, they don't. There's a difference between being a

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Speaker 3: Second Amendment. And that's what I try so hard to

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Speaker 3: push is that it's more than just buying a gun.

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Speaker 3: You need to you need to defend the two A

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Speaker 3: by joining these organizations. Otherwise, the minute we don't help them,

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Speaker 3: we lose. You know, our rights are under attack constantly

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Speaker 3: from the left. If we don't help defend the two A. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just our rights will erode.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because I was always pro to A. I

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Speaker 1: just was never a gun owner, and I think that

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Speaker 1: that was because I trusted security around me. I trusted

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Speaker 1: I went into a building, I trusted their security. And

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Speaker 1: now it's like, I realize that, you know, in October

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Speaker 1: seventh was obviously a big eye opener for me. If

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Speaker 1: Israel can't protect citizens like I mean, who can really,

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Speaker 1: And to me that became something that motivated me to

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Speaker 1: say to protect myself, not only that I am going

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Speaker 1: to be able to protect others. And the thing that

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Speaker 1: I say is that Jews who want to be helpers,

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Speaker 1: You can't be the person that steps in. You could

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Speaker 1: only be the person who needs help. That's not us, Like,

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Speaker 1: we can't behave like that out in the world.

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Speaker 2: No, we can't.

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Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate that we've lost the idea that Jews

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Speaker 3: come from a warrior heritage, right from Abraham fighting against

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Speaker 3: up conquering the lands and the Maccabees Judaism. If you

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Speaker 3: read the Torah, we are a warrior nation with war,

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Speaker 3: with strong warrior heritage. Yet post Holocaust we've become the

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Speaker 3: sheep led to slaughter. I always say, and I have

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Speaker 3: it on a bunch of merchandise on my website, that

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Speaker 3: saying that says people with a don't get in cattle cars. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I love that, and it's true. Yeah, and it's one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent true. If you are not willing to pick

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Speaker 3: up that firearm defended two way, then like you said,

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Speaker 3: you become not a helper, You become a someone who

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So how did you get into this? What

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Speaker 1: made you become the pew pew jew?

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Speaker 2: So I bought my first gun.

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Speaker 3: I was married with a little baby, living in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: where I'm originally from.

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Speaker 2: Now I live in Texas.

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Speaker 3: I was by my parents' house and my younger brother

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Speaker 3: kind of was like, hey, hey, man, when are we

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Speaker 3: going to go shoot your glock? And my parents had

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Speaker 3: like a full on Chernobyl meltdown right, I mean, it

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. They didn't talk to me for weeks.

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Speaker 3: During that time, I got me thinking, if I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be a gun owner, not only do I have

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Speaker 3: to be responsible, I have to ensure that my children are,

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Speaker 3: you know, knowledgeable about firearms and firearms safety. So I

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Speaker 3: went online. I was shocked to find that there were

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Speaker 3: can read to my children as a bedtime book, that

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Speaker 3: there were no books on the market devoted solely to

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Speaker 3: children regarding gun safety. I've always been a very big

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Speaker 3: fan of creative writing, so I was like, hey, I'm

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Speaker 3: years to get my first book published. It's called Safety

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Speaker 3: on to Introduction to the World of Firearms for Children.

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Speaker 3: And then I realized, hey, I wrote one book, I

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Speaker 3: called twenty seven Words, which is a breakdown of the

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Speaker 3: twenty seven words of the Second Amendment for children, so

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Speaker 3: really talking about you know, what's well regulated, what's a militia.

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Speaker 1: So these books are obviously all in public schools, now right,

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Speaker 1: I wish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been trying to get them in catch his

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Speaker 2: Even that's an uphill battle, hmm.

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Speaker 3: But while I was writing twenty seven Words, I was

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Speaker 3: talking to a friend of mine who's a Second Amendment historian,

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Speaker 3: and he's like, hey, man, you're like thew pew jew

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Speaker 3: up with him, and I called my illustrator. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 3: won And he delivered three days later, and I launched

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Speaker 3: a brand where I can sell my son copies of

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Speaker 3: sell merchandise. So you know, one of my first shirts

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Speaker 3: was a big picture of a pig that says gun

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Speaker 3: very fun self deprecating stuff so my website. So that's

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Speaker 3: kind of how the PEWPD launched. Kind of has a

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Speaker 1: I love that. Have you had people who told you

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: In my community, I used to be known as the

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy theorist.

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Speaker 3: Post October seventh, all those people that called me every

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Speaker 3: you gotta as a good firearms instructor. You know, you

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Speaker 3: So I didn't bring up the fact that all of

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Speaker 3: them thought I was crazy, But yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people have come up to me, you know, thank you

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Speaker 3: for everything you do, for convincing us to buy a firearm.

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Speaker 3: I had a guy at a range asked me, he said,

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Speaker 3: and he how can you say that? I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: you're right, and he started caring and every time he

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Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm caring.

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Speaker 3: I've definitely see a big uptick in Jewish firearms ownership

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean in Florida. I'd been seeing it even

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Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa where am I? And this

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Speaker 1: So I've seen that shift and I love to see it.

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Speaker 1: I just think that there's the people who still when

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Speaker 1: I posted that, I got myself a sig and I

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Speaker 1: be careful with it around your kids, Like, yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know. I am careful with it around my kids.

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Speaker 1: I am, you know, as careful as I am around anybody.

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Speaker 1: And it's that kind of leap that they need to

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Speaker 1: on their own and it doesn't matter who's carrying them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes down to it's in the rational fear.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately, like I said, Jews have had of post Holocaust.

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Speaker 3: They come to America and they just saw what guns did, right,

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Speaker 3: They basically annihilated six million of our people and they

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Speaker 2: So you kind of have to look.

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Speaker 3: At it at that perspective too, rather just wire juice

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's like you're the the opposite is

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Speaker 1: more true, Like not a single one of those six

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Speaker 1: million people had a gun, Like that was the that

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Speaker 1: was the whole issue. If we were if we were armed,

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Speaker 1: that might have not have happened. I mean, the people

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Speaker 1: And you know, I went to I went back to

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Speaker 1: But you're fighting it, you're doing it, you're not giving up.

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Speaker 2: What are you.

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Speaker 1: Most proud of in your life?

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things that I'm most proud

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Speaker 1: Are they good shots?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, with the whole infighting in the conservative movement and

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Speaker 1: Give me an example of how what kind of dark

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Speaker 3: I think that it's just we're going to be moving

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Speaker 1: Isn't that good? Isn't it good that we don't just

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Speaker 3: And that's something that really bothers me because if you

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Speaker 3: He does some great things and you got to, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think I think I'm more pessimistic at this point

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Speaker 2: But look, I could be wrong.

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Speaker 1: I have my dark, pessimistic moments, But right now I'm

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Good.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear that we need more people like

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Speaker 2: Some days. Some days I'm very.

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Speaker 1: That's a little bit like, oh, you guys like guns, dound,

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Speaker 2: You know, exactly exactly, But it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I try to live every day, you know, one at

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Speaker 1: You to it. Well, we'll see what you said in

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Speaker 1: five years. I've loved this conversation, Yahuda. I always think

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Speaker 1: you're very smart and clever. Leave us here with your

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Speaker 1: best tip for my listeners on how they can improve

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Speaker 1: their lives.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is one that my wife and I have

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Speaker 2: We are very firm believers of this.

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Speaker 3: If you are in a relationship, the term happy wife,

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Speaker 3: happy life is absolutely a horrible term.

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Speaker 2: Do not use it.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife and I live by happy, happy spouse,

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Speaker 1: I love that he is a Huda remer. Check him

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Speaker 1: out at the Pew Pew Jew. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: Yehuda for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you so much for having me