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Speaker 1: It is Thursday of Raiders week here at the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco, and we've got lots to talk about before
Speaker 1: the Cowboys get ready to play on Sunday Night football.
Speaker 1: It's always fun around here. And and you know, Brian,
Speaker 1: I heard you ask coach Garrett today, you're practicing outdoors again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't like my question. Why. I don't think he did.
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of said, you know, coaches
Speaker 1: or creatures have have it. They got a nice win,
Speaker 1: they played well last week. The fact they're playing on
Speaker 1: a grass field, I thought might be another thing. But
Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted to be. He's one of
Speaker 1: those guys it doesn't want to You know, we actice
Speaker 1: because we practice, not because of the conditions or the
Speaker 1: grass or anything like that. So I should have known
Speaker 1: that that was a terrible question on my part. No,
Speaker 1: it's a fair question. He just doesn't want the perception
Speaker 1: of a built in excuse of oh well, stuff like that,
Speaker 1: the way with the altitude and then well, I mean
Speaker 1: they practiced outdoors last week. They gotta win. Sometimes coaches
Speaker 1: are a little superstitious about the way they do things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're superstitious about our pizza. Yeah, Sam and John, there
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah. Coach Garrett gave a lot of injury updates.
Speaker 1: Rob if you you know, I saw you posting about that.
Speaker 1: Which one stood out to you the most? Well? Orlando
Speaker 1: Scandrick feeling better but maybe limited. Maybe gets in and
Speaker 1: does a little something today. No David Irving again, So
Speaker 1: you gotta think as there's the fist from Brian. I
Speaker 1: think he's out cocussion and that's a factory potentially against
Speaker 1: this Raiders offense. Yep line. Good news for Lyle Collins.
Speaker 1: Looks like he's gonna practice for the first time in
Speaker 1: more than two weeks. Tyrann Smith will be back as well.
Speaker 1: Um Justin Durant also coming off a concussion illness last week.
Speaker 1: Maybe get involved a little bit. Bryce Butler maybe not,
Speaker 1: still dealing with the foot. James Hannah could get in
Speaker 1: due a little work today. He's got a knee injury
Speaker 1: popped up on the report yesterday and Sean Lee might
Speaker 1: do a little bit more too. So is it the
Speaker 1: same knee that James Hannah has been dealing without through
Speaker 1: his career that I'm not sure of? Do you know,
Speaker 1: Mick he said he didn't know, did he? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think it probably is he's had And you know what,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a situation when you get down to
Speaker 1: the end of it, when it turns into the offseason,
Speaker 1: you have to figure something out. Obviously, you've got some
Speaker 1: guys in place. Blake Jarwin's a guy that got you know,
Speaker 1: when Hannah doesn't practice, Blake Jarwin gets to practice. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens with Rico gathers in that situation. I
Speaker 1: think that's a twenty and eighteen Okay, where are we
Speaker 1: at with this knee and stuff like that? You have
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that have actually played, you know,
Speaker 1: proven I think Jeff swam and you say, okay, who
Speaker 1: would you you know? James Hanna made a heck of
Speaker 1: a play the other day in that football game, great catch.
Speaker 1: But I think if you said, who are the guy
Speaker 1: that you know you think can block, catch, get down
Speaker 1: the field the best. I think Swain might be that. Guys,
Speaker 1: that might mean that you know that we see maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit different thought about James Hannah next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great to hear about Lyle Collins and getting back from
Speaker 1: his injury. You know, of course he hasn't really practiced
Speaker 1: at all the past two weeks, but he's had strong,
Speaker 1: hard matchups in those past two games and still showing out.
Speaker 1: So of course he has Khalil Mack this week, which
Speaker 1: is nothing to just you know, shake your head at.
Speaker 1: It hasn't gotten any easier. It hadn't gotten any easier
Speaker 1: for him, and I think that's the I think that's
Speaker 1: the thing that you you know, but you have to
Speaker 1: appreciate the way he's played throughout. It's amazing to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys. I really really don't
Speaker 1: know about you, guys, but it's so surprising to me
Speaker 1: that he can miss practice and be as effective as
Speaker 1: the way he is that because he's a young player,
Speaker 1: missing practice and not being good or oh no, and
Speaker 1: being and still being I mean, are you surprised, because
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm surprised because I kind of always felt
Speaker 1: like that he was a guy that needed to practice
Speaker 1: a assignment wise, be technique wise. Yeah, and there seems
Speaker 1: to haven't been any huge problems. Now again, I mentioned
Speaker 1: yesterday Zack Martin. You know, Zach playing next to Zack
Speaker 1: Martin is is a pretty good thing to have going
Speaker 1: if you make a mistake, Oh, Zach Martin can be
Speaker 1: there to help you. But I feel like though, but
Speaker 1: it's it. Hey, when you look at the mental side,
Speaker 1: when you look at the physical side and what he's
Speaker 1: able to do, that's been something that you know, it
Speaker 1: has allowed you to say, Okay, we can give him
Speaker 1: more rest because he's been able to show that he
Speaker 1: could play in these games. Or maybe the rest is
Speaker 1: the reason why he's playing better. That's that's he might
Speaker 1: have been fighting through it without anybody mentioning yet and
Speaker 1: it was hurting him. And now that he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to practice every day fully, um, you know, maybe he's
Speaker 1: fresher for the game. By the way, you remember Hannah
Speaker 1: signed a three year deal. Yeah, so be careful cutting
Speaker 1: guys that I just have already paid. Well, you know
Speaker 1: they've done that before with some guys. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think Hannah's going to break the bank. With you,
Speaker 1: but I think there has to be some legitimate concern
Speaker 1: about his injuries, right than the knee. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is something they remember all it was a bone bruising
Speaker 1: camp surgery deal. And I interrite Mickey, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to cut somebody that's been signed. But you know, we've
Speaker 1: we've seen that in the past. If it comes down
Speaker 1: to can he be healthy enough, can we count on him?
Speaker 1: He also, Yeah, you pay a guy to play, and
Speaker 1: this season he's played. You know, now we're down to
Speaker 1: the final month of the season and he's having to
Speaker 1: sit out a little bit, or sit at least the practice.
Speaker 1: You gave the out sign on David Irvy. I do
Speaker 1: we're sitting here a week and a half. Of course,
Speaker 1: you never shake your head at a concussion. But getting
Speaker 1: back to that Rob you mentioned it's going to impact
Speaker 1: this run game for the Oakland Raiders. Yeah, just Brian
Speaker 1: made the good point yesterday in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: he's not your typical plugger three technique guy in the middle.
Speaker 1: Irving is he's a guy who who's athletic, who can
Speaker 1: penetrate the pocket and maybe give these big Raiders offensive
Speaker 1: linemen some trouble if you don't have him, then you're
Speaker 1: going with Richard ashe and rotation with Lewis Neil. It's
Speaker 1: just a little bit of a different matchup. So he
Speaker 1: provides kind of a unique element for them in the middle,
Speaker 1: paired with MALIEK. Collins, and if they don't have that,
Speaker 1: I think you might see a show up. I think
Speaker 1: we're in Rob's exactly right. What's going on. You have
Speaker 1: to make this raider front move. You have to. You
Speaker 1: can't just rush him right down the middle. If you
Speaker 1: do that, you're playing right into their strength. Make these
Speaker 1: guys have to move, and I think that's what David
Speaker 1: Irvin is able to do. We talk about the slinky ability,
Speaker 1: the ability to get into gaps, to play on the move,
Speaker 1: to kind of take a step, hard step, then come back,
Speaker 1: you know, redirect things. You know, that's where David Irvin
Speaker 1: is going to be really help you in these types
Speaker 1: of games. But I'm just falling on Mickey's concussion protocol himself,
Speaker 1: what he's talked about. If the guys still practice two
Speaker 1: days in a row, I anticipate them being a I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's been pretty consistent with that, you know,
Speaker 1: So I just don't see him playing this week, and
Speaker 1: I would think the same as Scandrick. I think Scandrick
Speaker 1: is absolutely that the same thing. Yeah it's two day.
Speaker 1: I mean like he's better, but maybe not ready. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the young the young defensive backs have you know. And
Speaker 1: this this is an interesting thought too. I wonder if
Speaker 1: Scandrick you know, and I shouldn't say this, but because
Speaker 1: it's always considered like a bad thing, but if you
Speaker 1: think about Scandrick is one of those guys that he
Speaker 1: understands his body and stuff like that, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna play young guys, I'm gonna take care
Speaker 1: of myself. I'm not gonna go out there and you know,
Speaker 1: have to do anything extra, you know. I mean that
Speaker 1: just seems that that's that's probably that's probably wrong on
Speaker 1: my my thinking, but you know, you kind of wonder,
Speaker 1: you see the Hey, if they're gonna play young guys
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna protect myself. If they're if they're not
Speaker 1: interested in moving forward with me again, this is they're
Speaker 1: they're kind of setting things up for all these young
Speaker 1: guys playing, and hey, what how much money do we
Speaker 1: have to spend in all that? And it could be
Speaker 1: a his situation, say well, maybe I need another game
Speaker 1: or two to be fully healthy. What did he What
Speaker 1: did he say on Butler? Did he say? Not much?
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like he was going to do much again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I was talking to him yesterday in the
Speaker 1: locker room, and it sounded like the soreness in his
Speaker 1: foot was caused by the shot, Like the point where
Speaker 1: they entered the needle. It was that's what was sore
Speaker 1: and bothering him, he said the most. So I was
Speaker 1: thinking maybe he'd be maybe I gotta confuse over that. No,
Speaker 1: I think I think he said it right, but he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't act like, yoh yeah, I'm going out and practicing.
Speaker 1: He was still saying it was sore. And he said
Speaker 1: it was sore from taking the shot on Scandrick. Brian,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you were healthy. They need him and
Speaker 1: he played yeah, And I mean, but they're also this
Speaker 1: is an offense that you've we talked about Derek Carr
Speaker 1: and take over a football game, but this I also
Speaker 1: look at the situation, so we know what Orlando Scandrick is.
Speaker 1: He could be a very good player for you, and
Speaker 1: he could also he understands exactly the business side of it.
Speaker 1: He probably in that locker room understands business more than
Speaker 1: anybody in that room. And if he said, you just think, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're so happy about these young guys, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna protect myself a little bit. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: put any bad tape out there. We've heard veteran guys
Speaker 1: say that before, you know. But it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me that he would say. He would say,
Speaker 1: the attitude is okay, go play with those young guys,
Speaker 1: and I'll give myself another week to get healthy and
Speaker 1: then if i'm you know, then we'll see how things go. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he may not have another week to get healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if they lose, that's yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: It's all they lose. It's all the young guys just
Speaker 1: go sit. Yeah, that laying the young guy. That's that's
Speaker 1: but see, that's that's you know. That's to me. I
Speaker 1: what Scandrick's contract currently. I get confused because it gets
Speaker 1: readjusted like he got extended in the summer of it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's one of those fifteen. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's one of those things where again you you
Speaker 1: kind of look at it, and he's done a really
Speaker 1: smart thing because he's never he's made money without really
Speaker 1: making money. He's always kind of kept himself paid, but
Speaker 1: not to the point where you say, gosh, he's making
Speaker 1: nine million dollars or ten million dollars, making ten million
Speaker 1: a year a twenty nineteen four million dollars year in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, yeah, yeah, so one year left, yeah, or
Speaker 1: two years left, yeah, next year in twenty nineteen, two years.
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying, he kind of keeps himself paid
Speaker 1: without being overpaid to making somebody think but they're clearly
Speaker 1: are going with a young group out there. I mean
Speaker 1: that now a lot because of his injury, right, But
Speaker 1: you're also thinking, though we've all kind of said, well,
Speaker 1: Romo missed one game, and every David Carr missed one game.
Speaker 1: And again it's a position where you're having to tackle
Speaker 1: and do all those things and cover and twist and
Speaker 1: move and you know, but but he but he got
Speaker 1: his he got some money up front, right, So I
Speaker 1: don't know if what Kent said is his base salary
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen because he got that, Remember he was
Speaker 1: holding out, Sure, advanced. Sure. Yeah, like he did the
Speaker 1: cash like, oh, I'm not getting paid enough. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: according to spotrack is it's five years, nineteen million with
Speaker 1: a three million dollars signing bonus average of three point
Speaker 1: eight over the course of the contract. Okay, So to
Speaker 1: me that he just seems he's a businessman. He understands
Speaker 1: us and I hate to say, a businessman in a
Speaker 1: game where you need all hands on deck. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: got my finger. That that kind of that's that's a thought,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're if you're all hands on deck
Speaker 1: and we've got to get in the playoffs and all that. Okay,
Speaker 1: well they still want to play a young guys. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll take my time, you know, I'll you know, I'll
Speaker 1: do what I have to do. It's had big time
Speaker 1: injuries before, and he knows he's played with hand injuries
Speaker 1: and all kinds of stuff he has. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but this is again a lot of young guys playing
Speaker 1: in these games. A lot of young guys there certainly are.
Speaker 1: So we'll look to see what the practice report says
Speaker 1: this afternoon. Of course, Rob, yesterday you were out there
Speaker 1: in Los Callinas. Let's hear it. Let's hear the report
Speaker 1: of what you saw at owners meeting a little four seasons.
Speaker 1: It was nice out there. It's a beautiful place, and
Speaker 1: it starts for the media. Yeah, it was great. A
Speaker 1: membership here real soon. I don't know about that. I
Speaker 1: hope kind and yes, yes, and uh. And Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: and Roger Goodell were very cordial and professional around each other.
Speaker 1: They had back to back press conferences. Actually they just
Speaker 1: decided NFL decided the best way to handle it because
Speaker 1: both media wanted to talk to both of them. Line
Speaker 1: them up. Goodell speaks first at the podium, Jerry's off
Speaker 1: to the side waiting to speak. They hug as they're
Speaker 1: changing sides, and Jerry gets up there and speaks as well.
Speaker 1: A full hug, A full hug. Yes. So it was
Speaker 1: a it was a united front presented. I think. You know,
Speaker 1: there's obviously been some some pushback and some disagreements on um,
Speaker 1: you know, the status of Goodell's contract, and Jerry has been,
Speaker 1: you know, very pragmatic and explaining, like we've talked about
Speaker 1: it on the show, he's got he had eighteen months
Speaker 1: left on his deal. Let's let's tackle some of the
Speaker 1: issues with the league and then address his contract, but
Speaker 1: it got pushed through. He's gonna make a lot of money, Uh,
Speaker 1: the commissioner Goodell is. But what we learned is it's
Speaker 1: it's largely incentive based and it's and it's going to
Speaker 1: be and it's going to be based on you know,
Speaker 1: committee of owners deciding subjectively as he met these incentives
Speaker 1: based on his performance as commissioner. And that's something Jerry
Speaker 1: spoke to as well as Uh he spoke of constitutional
Speaker 1: changes to the NFL, and I think that relates to
Speaker 1: the compensation committee and how that's comprised of, you know,
Speaker 1: dealing with these types of issues financially with the commissioner involved.
Speaker 1: So are some of these incentives that I'm not sure
Speaker 1: specifically what. I'm sure there's different. There's so many aspects
Speaker 1: to the job. Um, I'm sure it has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with revenue ratings things of that nature. Um.
Speaker 1: So you know, Jerry has talked about there needs to
Speaker 1: be some change, and what he spoke to was he said,
Speaker 1: I hope Roger earns every dime, but we've got to
Speaker 1: look at how we do things at the at the
Speaker 1: league level. It's absolutely right, absolutely yeah. I mean, anyone
Speaker 1: can just so. So. Yeah, And the curious thing to
Speaker 1: me about the whole thing is we didn't learn about
Speaker 1: these incentives till like last week, right, Everything else leaked
Speaker 1: out about what he wanted in the contract, but that
Speaker 1: stuff didn't leak out. So my, my, I wonder did
Speaker 1: they change courses there before they gave him the final
Speaker 1: contract because Jerry balked, Well, he wanted to make very
Speaker 1: clear Jerry did that it's not just his effort to
Speaker 1: get that done. It takes an owner's majority vote to
Speaker 1: have something like that go through. Yeah, but it sounded
Speaker 1: like all the sheep were following, you know, the leader,
Speaker 1: and no one was balking at the thing. Now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Oh, we all decided that there was
Speaker 1: going to be incentives in this thing. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's a key thing. The thing I didn't
Speaker 1: like was the fact that he's already said that at
Speaker 1: the end of this contract, I'm retiring. Yeah. Well, he
Speaker 1: got asset up at the podium and he said, I
Speaker 1: haven't made any determination that then why his spokesman Joe
Speaker 1: Lockhart say this is his last deal. I thought how
Speaker 1: I read it was that he thought it was his
Speaker 1: last deal, like he wasn't no, Mickey's right. Lockhart basically
Speaker 1: said he was done after this deal. How old he'll
Speaker 1: be sixty four at the end of the five years. Look, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what worries me is when people start thinking about retiring,
Speaker 1: they may have already retired. Bill Parcels used to say
Speaker 1: that all the time. Yeah. But at the same time, Mick,
Speaker 1: if you're talking ninety percent performance based, he's got to
Speaker 1: earn what he wants. He's got already he has, I
Speaker 1: know he has. That just concerns me, That's all. The
Speaker 1: other thing that one more thing that came up was
Speaker 1: specific kind of to the Cowboys was Jerry was asked, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're talking about potential adjustments to the power of the
Speaker 1: commissioner and how does that relate to potentially play or
Speaker 1: discipline in those matters? And Jerry didn't want to get
Speaker 1: into SPI civics there, but he again kind of reiterated
Speaker 1: it's something we need to look at in terms of
Speaker 1: how I mean. One follow up question was about should
Speaker 1: they get out of the investigation business together? You know,
Speaker 1: so that that came up as well, but there was
Speaker 1: the answer to that, Well, I think Jerry didn't want
Speaker 1: to say, oh, they asked Jerry, asked Jerry. They didn't
Speaker 1: ask Goodell, right right. I think Jerry's response was, you know,
Speaker 1: that's out of my jurisdiction. I guess just me speaking personally,
Speaker 1: But obviously Jerry's felt like from Zeke perspective, it's something
Speaker 1: they have to look at going forward in the league.
Speaker 1: So what did what did they accomplish at this meeting?
Speaker 1: Because I'm they didn't fly thirty two thirty one owners
Speaker 1: here to say, okay, Jerry and Roger are good? Did
Speaker 1: they did they achieve something? I think come to any
Speaker 1: I think this was a I think this was a
Speaker 1: one voice meeting and meaning all thirty two had the
Speaker 1: opportunity to say whatever they wanted to say, right. I
Speaker 1: think this was really one of those meetings where they said, listen,
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of things being kind of banded
Speaker 1: abound around in the media. Let's talk about this. I
Speaker 1: think every owner had the opportunity to stand up forward.
Speaker 1: In Detroit, Casky, in Chicago, mister Jones and Dallas mister
Speaker 1: Blank in Atlanta, everybody got to say what they wanted
Speaker 1: to say. And I think that's what it was. I
Speaker 1: think this was kind of an agenda forming meeting. So
Speaker 1: this was a special meeting. This wasn't something I think
Speaker 1: something I think they called a winter meeting. But I
Speaker 1: believe Jerry Jones requested this meeting with the other owners,
Speaker 1: and I think the league allowed it to happen. And
Speaker 1: it was again one voice and well, and everybody gets
Speaker 1: to have their second ye like yeah, like Arthur, you
Speaker 1: need to go shake hands with Jerry Jones right now
Speaker 1: because it's yeah, yeah, we're gonna have you, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and and some of those owners, Clark Hunt
Speaker 1: in Kansas City could have said, my father would have
Speaker 1: not approved of the way this compensation package is going
Speaker 1: right now, and I don't like it myself. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the opportunity you have. Thank you, mister Hunt for
Speaker 1: the chiefs, you know, mister Davis in you know Oakland,
Speaker 1: wherever they're at. Yeah, well Vegas, they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: good Vegas team'll be a great Veggas team, and we're
Speaker 1: all gonna get to go. I'd be fun. But the
Speaker 1: thing the thing about it is, I think that's what
Speaker 1: they accomplished, Mickey. I think every owner had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to say their piece before this because there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, let's say, let's be honest, the
Speaker 1: Van Adder story that's come out, there's been somebody was
Speaker 1: in talking, you know, talking and giving information at what
Speaker 1: was being said. Owners on phone, owners not doing you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of that going on, reports of confidential
Speaker 1: memos and resolutions, and none of those things said anything
Speaker 1: in there about incentives in a contract. Did it draw
Speaker 1: the line somewhere here? Let's draw the line. Why are
Speaker 1: we you know, miss McCaskey, why you know, why are
Speaker 1: we having these problems? What are you guys doing over there?
Speaker 1: You know, everybody got a chance to say on their
Speaker 1: behalf what they wanted to say. See, I think one
Speaker 1: of the problems a lot of these owners have is
Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, Roger Goodell's the end all
Speaker 1: of commissioners, right, like they can't find another guy. But
Speaker 1: I think they a lot of those guys, even though
Speaker 1: they're great in this man and we like Jerry, have
Speaker 1: problems with dealing with ambiguity, like, oh well, what if
Speaker 1: we get rid of Roger, who's the next guy? And
Speaker 1: Jerry relishes that right, But a lot of guys just
Speaker 1: want to say, hey, I know this. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: scared of changing. Let's be honest here. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of the ownership is older folks. You know a
Speaker 1: lot of older folks. The next time the commissionership comes up,
Speaker 1: a lot of these old guard are no longer going
Speaker 1: to be with us, God will them. They all are.
Speaker 1: But let's be you know, that's that's they're gonna Maybe
Speaker 1: this is an opportunity for these owners to say, this
Speaker 1: is my last one. Okay, this is what I think.
Speaker 1: Let me put this, let me let me go on
Speaker 1: record here as I'm eighty three years old. Absolutely, you know, well,
Speaker 1: let's take our first break here and as we come back,
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Speaker 1: this weekend I want to get into because guys, whether
Speaker 1: you like it or not, if the Cowboys don't get
Speaker 1: it done this weekend, you can just kiss those four
Speaker 1: percent playoff dances goodbye. Even though it's an AFC opponent,
Speaker 1: they really need this win and you need to keep rolling.
Speaker 1: Of course, they've gotten the two wins the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, but means nothing at this time of year. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's look at Sean Lee versus Marshawn Lynch. Of course,
Speaker 1: everyone loves to talk about Marshawn Lynch and he he
Speaker 1: doesn't love to talk as much. No, but what do
Speaker 1: you think about this? Are you thinking about that? When
Speaker 1: can your linebacker make enough tackles in the hole. You
Speaker 1: can make enough tackles in the hole if the guys
Speaker 1: up front do their job. Yeah, I thought the guys
Speaker 1: up front did a better job this past week than
Speaker 1: I think we've seen for a couple of weeks. Ye,
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, I mean Sean Lee. I'll have him
Speaker 1: lined up. It's just a matter of where dude's running,
Speaker 1: you know, as you running straight up the middle, Anthony Hitchins,
Speaker 1: We've seen all these cutback things that hit. Yeah, watch
Speaker 1: the Raiders play. You just don't want to overpursue. Don't
Speaker 1: be too aggressive getting front side. There's something coming back door.
Speaker 1: Be ready, and Micky's right, you know, if you don't
Speaker 1: have keep an eye on Crawford, you know, on that backside.
Speaker 1: If that ball starts the right and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden bends back, you better have Sean Lee there. You
Speaker 1: better have You know, Sean Lee will be there. You
Speaker 1: just hope that helpe the Tyran Crofts over there too,
Speaker 1: and you hope anybody else that comes from that side
Speaker 1: over there, one of those young corners comes flying in
Speaker 1: to help with that run game as well. And I
Speaker 1: hope he's well enough to play. I know he's not
Speaker 1: on the injury report, but that hip pointer that he
Speaker 1: got in the game still pretty painful if you've watched
Speaker 1: him walking through the locker room. So he kind of
Speaker 1: played through that and is obviously practicing through it. But
Speaker 1: that'll that'll be real important because the other guys that
Speaker 1: can play that defensive end spot, they're not really run stoppers.
Speaker 1: Although I did see Mayo of finally makes some tackles
Speaker 1: on that backside cut, so I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: getting or not, but that's gonna be for bricks in
Speaker 1: his pocket there. May You know, of course the Cowboys
Speaker 1: got him from the Raiders. Maybe he'll feel a little
Speaker 1: revenge game. You know, Alfred Morris always does really well
Speaker 1: against the Redskins. Yeah, maybe we could see the same
Speaker 1: from Mayo. Absolutely, Ever, it takes whatever it takes, all right,
Speaker 1: rob Lyle Collins VERSU Khalil Mac. You've talked about this
Speaker 1: at exhaust but let's really dive into it. Who could
Speaker 1: really come down and win this matchup? Uh? You know
Speaker 1: how many snaps did he get against Mac in preseason? Maybe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, it was sure, and that was
Speaker 1: a good That was kind of the first indication we saw,
Speaker 1: Okay against a really good player, how can he handle him?
Speaker 1: Mac is just so elite at being able to capture
Speaker 1: the edge and get to the quarterback. I would impress
Speaker 1: me the most about like all these last couple of games,
Speaker 1: is they haven't given him a ton of help. You
Speaker 1: know they have not. They've left him out against Ryan
Speaker 1: Kerrigan and uh jpp vernon those guys. So do you
Speaker 1: give him a little bit of help or do you
Speaker 1: trust him? I think you reached a point now or
Speaker 1: you can trust him. I think is especially you know,
Speaker 1: if he's feeling better physically and you're able to practice
Speaker 1: this week, we'll see. I think what he's just got
Speaker 1: to continue to do is trust his technique and not
Speaker 1: be overaggressive and and have that kind of guard mentality
Speaker 1: where you're on guys quickly and maybe you have lapses
Speaker 1: in your technique, but the keeping Dak upright on that
Speaker 1: side of the football is maybe d key matchup of
Speaker 1: the game. I'll tell you what, Rob nailed this thing.
Speaker 1: He's got it right. And the thing about you have
Speaker 1: to be a little bit a little bit worried about, though,
Speaker 1: is him taking over that game, him getting you know
Speaker 1: him Also, we saw what happened in Atlanta game when
Speaker 1: when a defensive end takes over the game. But I expect,
Speaker 1: like you know, you haven't given him much help, but
Speaker 1: I still think you're gonna see some twelve personnels, some
Speaker 1: thirteen personnel stuff. I think you're gonna still see some
Speaker 1: chip too. I just don't feel as much as you
Speaker 1: want to put Lyle Collins over there and say go
Speaker 1: to it, big fella. I think they'll be a little help.
Speaker 1: Maybe not a lot, but I think that the hint
Speaker 1: of it. They don't want to get caught in a
Speaker 1: game like they did in Atlanta and not have an
Speaker 1: answer and a plan. Oh, no doubt. Guys. Another guy
Speaker 1: we have to remember we brought him up earlier this week,
Speaker 1: but Jared Cook, he is on the Raiders roster and
Speaker 1: he is doing great for them. Yeah, it's being a
Speaker 1: lot better for them than he even did for the Packers.
Speaker 1: Of course, he had the game ceiling reception for Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers third and twenty, never forget it. But he's got
Speaker 1: Byron Jones this week and Byron Jones the tight end guy.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting matchup because they're two different body styles
Speaker 1: all the way. Yeah they are. You're get a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of eleven personnel, so you can look very
Speaker 1: similar to what the Cowboys do with the with the
Speaker 1: tight end running, you know, like with Jason Witten so yeah,
Speaker 1: Cook is you know, he's sneaky in the way he plays,
Speaker 1: the way he gets up the field, the way he
Speaker 1: makes catches. I want to say he's leading the rate
Speaker 1: of the raiders and receptions if I'm not taking yes,
Speaker 1: he is, so yeah, that that's what. Yeah, he's second.
Speaker 1: Is he second behind behind who one behind Crabtree? Okay?
Speaker 1: Very comparable to what the to what you know with
Speaker 1: crab Tree and what they've done in eight catches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so good for them. I mean, hey, that's that's a
Speaker 1: weapon right there. You mentioned the name Byron Jones. I
Speaker 1: think we've seen a lot of different safety combinations. Maybe
Speaker 1: you'll see Heath going there. Maybe you'll see you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll they'll figure out if you get Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: on the field, maybe that sends a woozy a over
Speaker 1: in that way to take. So just kind of keep
Speaker 1: an eye on that that position as well, and they
Speaker 1: might you know, what they they've sometimes done has played
Speaker 1: more dime, right, you know, either one linebacker or three
Speaker 1: just three defensive line. There you go and beacon. When
Speaker 1: you get a guy that can get down the field
Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, absolutely always exciting. Bran. I was reading
Speaker 1: about you know, the big matchup with DeMarcus Lawrence Tank.
Speaker 1: He got surpassed last week by Chandler Jones at fourteen sacks?
Speaker 1: Can he get back there? Going up against Marshall Newhouse.
Speaker 1: I like that tell you're doing your homework. Marshall Newhouse
Speaker 1: is a the of the Oakland offensive lineman. I think
Speaker 1: he's the weak link, you know, and that means but
Speaker 1: then again, now do you how do you help him?
Speaker 1: What do you do? The Raiders have shown a willingness
Speaker 1: to keep a tight end and you know, Cook is
Speaker 1: a guy that they want to get in the route,
Speaker 1: but they'll put somebody that side. Lynch, Marshawn Lynch is
Speaker 1: one of those guys that before he gets in the
Speaker 1: route every single time will chip to the side he's
Speaker 1: going to every time. I mean he will throw a
Speaker 1: right shoulder in there or a left shoulder. He'll do
Speaker 1: just to try and help the guy. But this is
Speaker 1: I just don't think the Raiders can allow. Now, the
Speaker 1: Raiders haven't given up a bunch of sacks. But but
Speaker 1: that's that's where if there, if there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: pressure point, I think it's over Marshall Newhouse at that
Speaker 1: right tackle. But again, keep an eye on some help
Speaker 1: over their chip. Help. Let's see if if if Laurens
Speaker 1: can get him on the move. I keep saying the
Speaker 1: word get him on the move. That's where you're going
Speaker 1: to take advantage of these guys. Absolutely, Rob, you're excited
Speaker 1: to see that. Yeah, you said it, like, get him
Speaker 1: moving latterly, don't you know? Yeah, make him, make him
Speaker 1: chase basically, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. When we were talking earlier,
Speaker 1: Jared Cook actually is the receiving leader for yards for
Speaker 1: the Raiders. That six D twenty one he's been burgett.
Speaker 1: He had a long thirty five yard pass. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that the other day by a tight end catching a
Speaker 1: thirty five yard pass. Oh, you never know when these guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we all wanted to see it last week and
Speaker 1: we got to see a little bit. But Dez Bryant
Speaker 1: has another interesting matchup this week with t J Kerrey.
Speaker 1: Is he able to handle this one and will he
Speaker 1: be able to have an explosive, explosive game. Yeah, carry
Speaker 1: will play in the slot on you sometime tape and
Speaker 1: then and then you get Dexter McDonald and then also
Speaker 1: Sean Smith would be involved there. I think the Raiders
Speaker 1: have had their problems this year because of their secondary
Speaker 1: you know, they were you know, they were trying to
Speaker 1: get you know, Conley was involved. They drafted, they wanted him.
Speaker 1: He's on IR Now they're you know, they're struggling with that.
Speaker 1: Uh you know. But Smith, I think is the better
Speaker 1: of the covers. When you talk about Carry, when you
Speaker 1: talk about McDonald, Smith is the one guy in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: a little bit better of a press man, can kind
Speaker 1: of stay with you. But could be the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: like what they're gonna do. I think that if you
Speaker 1: want to look at two guys to have a good game,
Speaker 1: des Bryant certainly could have a good game. Keep an
Speaker 1: eye on Cole Beasley in this game too, out of
Speaker 1: the slot. Let's see, let's see if he can win,
Speaker 1: because if Carry kicks into the slot. I kind of
Speaker 1: like that matchup for the for the Cowboys right there.
Speaker 1: I always like Cole matched up when he's got one
Speaker 1: guy to beat the big play down the field. He
Speaker 1: had to make one little move to the outside and
Speaker 1: there he goes. He's off to the races. It's just guys,
Speaker 1: he's been bracketed a ton, and when he's not been
Speaker 1: bragging they've they've made sure they've had an elite cover
Speaker 1: guy or one of their top guys whoever a team
Speaker 1: it is, on him. So we'll see, we'll see how
Speaker 1: they defend him. Yeah, let's go to the phone lines.
Speaker 1: We have Philip from Tennessee. What is your question? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was wanting to ask. In order to have a
Speaker 1: little bit more firepower on the offense, do you think
Speaker 1: it is possible that they might consider once Ze come back,
Speaker 1: putting him on one side of the offense in the
Speaker 1: slot and taking Rod Smith and putting him on the
Speaker 1: other side. Having two tackle breaking running backs that are
Speaker 1: very quick in space, letting them have the ball in
Speaker 1: their hands to see what they can do it like
Speaker 1: they did in this last game they use Rod Smith
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, I'm just curious what they put him
Speaker 1: on the field. At the same time, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Thanks for interesting look at it. Everyone's excited to see
Speaker 1: Ize Gelly come back and Rod Smith is still having
Speaker 1: the production he is. There will be discussion, well toay,
Speaker 1: we've kind of flipped around on what we'd like to see.
Speaker 1: You know, Mickey was talking about the toys and you
Speaker 1: can't get all the toys on the field. And you
Speaker 1: know the caller by the way, I love his voice,
Speaker 1: but great voice, a great voice radio voice, for sure,
Speaker 1: but I love the you know, we talk about this,
Speaker 1: how do you get, guys, how do you get? I
Speaker 1: think when you see Zeke get back, it's Zeke gets back.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Zeke running in the football. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be Zeke running the screen. It's gonna be maybe Zeke
Speaker 1: on some of those plays. But to try and put
Speaker 1: him and Smith on the field at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to get Beasley and Switzer on the
Speaker 1: field at the same time, you know, I mean and
Speaker 1: that that that's just it seems like that the coaches
Speaker 1: have their plans, have their ideas. Now maybe depending again
Speaker 1: what's happening with with Bryce Butler. That takes a guy
Speaker 1: out of the situation. Again, who are you going to
Speaker 1: take off the field when you do those kinds of things.
Speaker 1: I know they don't want to take Witton off the field.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's great to come up with some ideas,
Speaker 1: but they they're struggling with the guys that they actually
Speaker 1: have right now to create stuff with. Well, if you're
Speaker 1: going empty, yeah, and Butler's not there. I'd rather see
Speaker 1: Switzer on the field absolutely than Noah Brown. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's fair. I just think you've got better a route
Speaker 1: runner and yeah, guys kind of mess around in the
Speaker 1: slot there then a you know, kind of a bigger
Speaker 1: wide receiver on the outside who's probably not going to
Speaker 1: get down the field. See that's what I'm saying. Though,
Speaker 1: if you think about the way that Dak throws the
Speaker 1: football to underneath the intermediate stuff. We always talk about
Speaker 1: him from one to five yards being like an eighty
Speaker 1: percent passer. If you do get the ball, We've seen
Speaker 1: what you could do with even though that that Beasley
Speaker 1: hasn't got off a long run. He got one the
Speaker 1: other day. But you know, you want to do that,
Speaker 1: you want to We've seen Switzer run the ball as
Speaker 1: a punt return a kick returner. Why not throw him
Speaker 1: the ball, get it in his hands, get him his hands.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is that play better than trying to
Speaker 1: throw a fifty fifty ball to Bryce Butler or throw
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty ball to Norah Brown. I think Mickey
Speaker 1: makes a good point by that, you know, And the
Speaker 1: other thing is, how are they going to do they
Speaker 1: think they have a corner that can play man on
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. Because if we're gonna be realistic, the reason
Speaker 1: rod Smith did what he did on the eighty one
Speaker 1: yard catch and run was they were Dublin Devils and
Speaker 1: there was no safety in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: Those safeties double to the outside. Like when everybody asked
Speaker 1: that question about well can this guy you know, can
Speaker 1: Dez do this? Or well does the other team want
Speaker 1: to take the chance of dezing this? They left the
Speaker 1: guy one on one with rod Smith. And again I
Speaker 1: see the caller's point about trying to get him the
Speaker 1: football in his hands. That was a good That was
Speaker 1: just a great design, great advantage and Dak give him
Speaker 1: credit for the read, but and a great adjustment by
Speaker 1: Dak to get him out there. Him out there, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was the play design. He
Speaker 1: walk saw it and he said, hey, walk him go
Speaker 1: over there and just a lot walk him over there
Speaker 1: and then run the run. I can see they were
Speaker 1: doubling dead absolutely they knew that. Yeah, him and Beasley
Speaker 1: were getting the deal. That's why those things, you know,
Speaker 1: get lost, is like, okay, are they doubling him and
Speaker 1: and and a lot of times it's not a true double.
Speaker 1: It's like they'll leave the linebacker out there so he
Speaker 1: can't run a slant. Right, So now you've got one
Speaker 1: route third and five. You don't want Dez Bryant running
Speaker 1: a slant if you're defend defender, you just don't. And
Speaker 1: then Spagnola tried to take that away. What were you
Speaker 1: going to say, Well, he mentioned Zeke coming back, and
Speaker 1: you said when he comes back in he's going to
Speaker 1: be involved in the running game, pass game. Obviously, I
Speaker 1: am curious though, and I guess we're just not going
Speaker 1: to know till he gets back here and gets back
Speaker 1: into practice. Is he can you pencil him in for
Speaker 1: fifty five snaps? Fifty snaps after missing six games. I
Speaker 1: guess we'll have to wait and see. This is sure
Speaker 1: you prefer that, Yeah, you're the coaching staff. This is this.
Speaker 1: I hate, I hate to be this guy, but but
Speaker 1: we're to the point where it doesn't matter. You gotta go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the time to load the wagon has We're on the
Speaker 1: we're on the Oregon trail right now. We're trying to
Speaker 1: avoid the plague and all the India ends and everybody else.
Speaker 1: I mean, what happens if he if he gets tired
Speaker 1: and gets hurt. Okay, now he's gonna miss one game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I just it's just no, no, I understand
Speaker 1: about And you haven't seen him, and you haven't had
Speaker 1: comack with you, right, you know, your your point is,
Speaker 1: your point is well taken. But I'm to the point
Speaker 1: now where we're past. We're past that worried about health.
Speaker 1: It's now about we gotta go win football games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We've got to find a way. And your hope, your
Speaker 1: hope is that he comes back a piste off football
Speaker 1: player and you're playing for something and he can show
Speaker 1: you that against Seattle and all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: has a thirty one carry game for one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty three yards and you're leaving at and T Stadium
Speaker 1: with a chance to go to Philadelphia and get in
Speaker 1: this thing. We can expect to see him here on Tuesday, Monday,
Speaker 1: well Monday, but yeah they're not. They don't. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: don't unless you see him in the dining hall, yeah, Monday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll hear him before you see him. I bet you'll
Speaker 1: see him running by. Yeah, you know, and it won't snap.
Speaker 1: First game that's the problem because he'll have the freshest
Speaker 1: legs of Anybody'll hell, it'll be it'll be good to go.
Speaker 1: It'll be the second game when he's beat up after noting.
Speaker 1: I just I just want him to be a piste
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Speaker 1: that's what I want that that. Okay, I'm back and
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Speaker 1: is talking cowboys. Wonder if they hadn't Papa John's pizza
Speaker 1: at that owner's meeting yesterday For you guys, of course
Speaker 1: they did. Mick, absolutely, Yes, they know what makes a
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Speaker 1: With the ingredients like that, you have better pizza and
Speaker 1: you have Papa John's for the owner's meeting. Yeah. Before
Speaker 1: we get to Rob's twitter poll, we have to get
Speaker 1: to the Oakland Raiders injury report because it's pretty full
Speaker 1: if you guys have looked at it. Of course it's
Speaker 1: not too many guys that you're really too concerned with,
Speaker 1: but some of these guys had a lot of them
Speaker 1: had veterans days yesterday. Yeah, you know Bruce ervin Kelomac.
Speaker 1: They were on there for not injury related assuming that's
Speaker 1: just a veteran day sure for them, especially at this
Speaker 1: time in this season. But you know, we've talked about
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper bean in and out. He was DMP yesterday.
Speaker 1: Looked GEMPI watching the Kansas City tape. Did he really?
Speaker 1: He did? He sure did. Tried to play, couldn't play,
Speaker 1: tried to play, couldn't play. You know, it was pretty
Speaker 1: pretty painful to watch and play. No catches that game,
Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, and Jared Cook, the guy that
Speaker 1: we just talked about, he was limited with the wrist.
Speaker 1: So they've got key injuries and you know you have
Speaker 1: to look at those throughout this week because whoever will
Speaker 1: be playing, they have to go there full yes, and
Speaker 1: then I have football. But Rob will get to your
Speaker 1: Twitter pool. All right. We were talking about first segment,
Speaker 1: the rookie DBS on this Cowboys defense. Yes, playing a lot,
Speaker 1: playing a lot of snaps, playing well, still needs some
Speaker 1: more's experience, need, still needs some improvement, but doing a
Speaker 1: good job. Which of the three has the most upside?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like Cheeto, Jordan Lewis or Xavier Woods?
Speaker 1: Do you vote in this Movi? I did vote? Did
Speaker 1: you write in one? I took the second round pick?
Speaker 1: Oh you went with the easy one? Huh? Lewis a
Speaker 1: full off season the second round pick. Yeah. Yeah. Lewis
Speaker 1: was third, his third round pick could have been a
Speaker 1: season first second. Basically could have been a second. Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods was a six round pick, could have been a
Speaker 1: third round pick honestly based on on talent. Okay, why
Speaker 1: do you say Cheeto Mick? Because I just think he's
Speaker 1: really good, Okay, and I think at his upside starts
Speaker 1: at a higher level than the other guys. So I'm
Speaker 1: going I think he's the real deal, real deal yep,
Speaker 1: like pro Bowl style one day at some point. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's had a hard season. I mean he's played through injuries,
Speaker 1: He's had to miss a lot of time, you know,
Speaker 1: training camp. I would love to see Cheeto just have
Speaker 1: a full season because you know, I think he is
Speaker 1: very versatile. That was a big key. We were listening
Speaker 1: to some of the scouts talk about some of the
Speaker 1: bowl games they're going to go to, right and some
Speaker 1: of them you hear the name and you're like, that
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a very good bowl. And I was
Speaker 1: bringing it up to one and he goes, well, I
Speaker 1: saw Cheeto there last year, so that was a big
Speaker 1: Bowl game for the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. So well, I
Speaker 1: like what Mickey saying about Cheeto and and and you
Speaker 1: know what's funny when when I sat down and put
Speaker 1: together a board for the draft that we did for
Speaker 1: one oh five three and Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin turn and
Speaker 1: I we had we had a Woozier higher than Lewis
Speaker 1: on our board, and but we had them both in
Speaker 1: the second round. But the way we slotted him. A
Speaker 1: Woozier was above Lewis. And you know, it's funny when
Speaker 1: you talk to the scouts again, like Taylor was saying,
Speaker 1: they they think that Lewis is the one that's got
Speaker 1: the most upside, but the one that's that is again,
Speaker 1: how he's caught my eye in the coverage, the mobility,
Speaker 1: the tackling, the positioning, A Woozier looks like to me,
Speaker 1: he's got the build for it, he's got the temperament
Speaker 1: for it, you know, and that that that makes you
Speaker 1: feel like that going. But I Jordan Lewis played well
Speaker 1: the other day. Jordan Lewis didn't look grabby, holdy, all
Speaker 1: those things that we've kind of see where you know
Speaker 1: he's had some issues. He didn't look that way. So
Speaker 1: I but I'm gonna go with Mickey on this one.
Speaker 1: I think the guy that's got the most the most upside.
Speaker 1: And not to say that Louis is not going to
Speaker 1: be good, but I think the guy that it's all
Speaker 1: said and done, will be uh will be uh will
Speaker 1: be cheeto hey in agreement, I gotta go Lewis on
Speaker 1: this one. Nice. I want I'm curious to see what
Speaker 1: the fan said they picked Cheeto. Fifty seven percent said Cheeto.
Speaker 1: And you know he's got more physically, he's he's he's
Speaker 1: built to you know, he's a bigger corner. He can
Speaker 1: handle some of the bigger receivers in the league, so
Speaker 1: he's got that advantage. Jordan Lewis got thirty two percent
Speaker 1: of the vote, followed by Xavier Woods. So yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: that was a predictable poll. I don't know, but all
Speaker 1: three you're playing well, and all three of them you
Speaker 1: can see a role for them going forward. Cheeto, by
Speaker 1: the way, he's going home this weekend. He's from San Jose,
Speaker 1: so he's got a lot of family out there. Uh
Speaker 1: they're either he said, they're either Raiders or forty nine
Speaker 1: Ers fans, but they got a root for me. On Sunday,
Speaker 1: who who went to Who had the hometown game? Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: it was it was Chad's Green Atlanta right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but he had like sixty something people. Oh that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like a Florida everybody got to go see Chads.
Speaker 1: He makes the start. Well, I told you Landstone Bar
Speaker 1: that one. He returns to New Orleans and they got
Speaker 1: blown up. Yeah, poor guy. Bless him, you know, as
Speaker 1: acl let me ask you this, do you think that
Speaker 1: people vote come on? Wing returned to Colorado? No, he
Speaker 1: got injured. Well, let me ask you this though, when
Speaker 1: when you when you think about when you think about
Speaker 1: with the Woozier and Lewis, do you think it's fans
Speaker 1: have seen Lewis play a much more And that's kind
Speaker 1: of kind of swaying them to why they're thinking the
Speaker 1: way they are. What game did Cheeto come back and start?
Speaker 1: Was it two games ago? Washington? Wasn't it? He was
Speaker 1: so physical and productive in that game, I think, and
Speaker 1: it's a smaller sample size, but I think fans saw
Speaker 1: that and like, Wow, this guy makes plays on the ball,
Speaker 1: he's aggressive, he's in position and so Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: they haven't seen as much of him as they have
Speaker 1: from Lewis. Yeah, I mean, I'm wondering if they voted
Speaker 1: voted for Cheeto just because they haven't seen as much
Speaker 1: from him. And then we haven't seen the mistakes and
Speaker 1: I mean we've we've seen we've seen Lewis play since Denver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right about him. Yeah, he's been playing all the games.
Speaker 1: I mean they throw him out there. We've seen the good,
Speaker 1: we've seen the bad. I wonder if fans are just
Speaker 1: kind of like thinking, we haven't seen that yet from
Speaker 1: we haven't seen that from a Woozier, so maybe it
Speaker 1: would have been a closer, you know, closer vote. It's
Speaker 1: like you said, in terms of pre draft rankings, they
Speaker 1: were right there. I mean, it's not like it's a
Speaker 1: clear cut Okay, who was higher rated coming out of
Speaker 1: the draft. They're both in that second round range. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone lines. We have, Layman. I
Speaker 1: hope I said that right from DC. You can totally
Speaker 1: correct me. It's lamon. Hey, I bet you you've had
Speaker 1: to deal with that for a long time. Always, always.
Speaker 1: I think you guys are onto something about the young cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: I think Woozy a little bit more physical. Um, it
Speaker 1: has the swagger. I think Lewis definitely has the swagger.
Speaker 1: I just think it needs to develop just a little
Speaker 1: bit more physicality, and I think He'll had the potential
Speaker 1: to be a lockdown corner I think we got something
Speaker 1: going great with these two young corners. But um, do
Speaker 1: you think the narrative about Dak not being able to
Speaker 1: win without Zeke? Uh, it's losing steam. We don't. We
Speaker 1: don't seeing him wins back to back games, and UM,
Speaker 1: I don't think there is um is over the hill,
Speaker 1: I think, Um, I just think him and Dak having
Speaker 1: been able to get get on the same page. And
Speaker 1: it's kind of frustrating once once you once you finally
Speaker 1: get the ball and you're trying to make a play,
Speaker 1: it's frustration that sets saying then he end up just
Speaker 1: like on Sunday, losing the ball on the deep, on
Speaker 1: the on the deep, on the deep throw. You know,
Speaker 1: it gets frustrating at the while after not getting in
Speaker 1: the ball, But um, what do you guys think? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Thanks on You know what? Dak evidently told Dez the
Speaker 1: same thing he told Beasley in that game when Beasley
Speaker 1: dropped the ball. Yeah. And when I was talking to
Speaker 1: Beasley about the drop, he goes, yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: what the good thing was, He goes, I came back
Speaker 1: to the huddle and I was apologizing and Dak told
Speaker 1: me I won't apologize. He goes, I've missed you on passes. Sure.
Speaker 1: Evidently he told Dez the same thing. Sure, forget about it,
Speaker 1: he said. He kept coming back to the huddle and
Speaker 1: bringing it up and it's like, quit talking about it. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I've thrown you a bad pass before, So let's let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go make a play. And that's a good thing
Speaker 1: about Dak. He's he's mature beyond his years, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't make excuses or let other people take the fall
Speaker 1: for his play, even though sometimes they should. He falls
Speaker 1: on his sword, and that's what a quarterback I have
Speaker 1: to do. I have always been impressed. And I know
Speaker 1: you guys are scrammling to get out of a stadium
Speaker 1: or scrambling to get out of a locker room, but
Speaker 1: we sit there and get the post game, you know.
Speaker 1: With Dak, and there's been some games where he stood
Speaker 1: up there where it could have been forty five other
Speaker 1: guys standing behind him, saying that was me, that was me.
Speaker 1: He every single time. And I've told this to Nate Newton.
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, the most admirable thing about that young
Speaker 1: man is did he's willing to stand up there and
Speaker 1: take the blame when again, forty five other guys could
Speaker 1: have just as easily were just as bad as he was.
Speaker 1: So is it easy to see why a locker room
Speaker 1: got behind a rookie quarterback? Absolutely? You could. And I'm
Speaker 1: I was a Romo fan. I mean I was a
Speaker 1: big I wanted to see Romo play. I love Tony Romo.
Speaker 1: I was he was part of my life. He you
Speaker 1: know that. Those all really great things. But I do
Speaker 1: admire Dak Prescott. I do. I admire him from what
Speaker 1: he did at Mississippi State against my alma mater. I
Speaker 1: saw him do that. The biggest thing you could say
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott and how much talent he has is
Speaker 1: when scouts went back to Mississippi State after he left
Speaker 1: and they thought, well, hey, this is a ten win team,
Speaker 1: and they went back in the talent was really a
Speaker 1: five win team or a six win team. That's what
Speaker 1: he was able to bring to your team. And then
Speaker 1: Scott's like, well, where's all the talent? You guys win
Speaker 1: ten games last year? You know, Dan Mullen's like, the
Speaker 1: talent's over at the Cowboys right now. You know, that's
Speaker 1: the type of guy you have, and you know I
Speaker 1: respect him for that because it's not always perfect for him.
Speaker 1: He's not a perfect quarterback. He's not going to make you.
Speaker 1: He's not a Drew Breese, he's not Aaron Rodgers. But
Speaker 1: He's tough. In this day and age, you've got to
Speaker 1: have a tough guy. It minds me of Brett Farven
Speaker 1: that way, be tough, get respect from your teammates, and
Speaker 1: go lead. And I think that's the biggest things you
Speaker 1: could say about him. Yeah, I like that. You bring
Speaker 1: up Mississippi State, you know, when we traveled over to Starkville, Mississippi,
Speaker 1: that was just the first thing that ever brought up,
Speaker 1: is that everyone could follow him. Sure, you can't. He's
Speaker 1: easy to do. Talked about in recruiting. You know, he
Speaker 1: was not the most highly touted recruitable quarterback right that
Speaker 1: they had coming into Mississippi State. And he said that
Speaker 1: they had held a workout and all these guys were
Speaker 1: following Dak. Yeah, so workout of over four hundred guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: following Dak just tangibles. Just can't get him. Help, you know,
Speaker 1: keep getting him, help, let the line develop, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever you have to do at receiver, help him, help
Speaker 1: him that way. Did you guys see what Eric Dickerson
Speaker 1: said about Ezekiel Elliott. Have you seen that yet? No?
Speaker 1: I have not. So obviously the Cowboys are still not
Speaker 1: eligible to have contact with Ezekiel Elliott, but other people
Speaker 1: can and one of those one of those guys is
Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson. He has had contact with Ezekiel Elliott since
Speaker 1: his suspension, and he says he looks great. He said,
Speaker 1: he looks fantastic, and that Zeke has, you know, has
Speaker 1: this mindset that in his first game back, he's going
Speaker 1: to get two hundred yards. Yeah, let's hope. So let's
Speaker 1: hope he means something too. Yeah, you know, it's always
Speaker 1: it's always good to see these former players interacting with
Speaker 1: the current players that sometimes need help. Yep. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's that's the guy that Zeke was going after his
Speaker 1: rookie rushing record last year too, and could have gotten
Speaker 1: it maybe if you know, a couple more couple more games, um,
Speaker 1: a couple more two hundred yard games, Yeah, a couple
Speaker 1: more of those. Yeah, you know, guys gotta sit six
Speaker 1: games and is still adamant I did nothing wrong. There's
Speaker 1: got to be major motivation coming back, especially if your
Speaker 1: football team. You come back, like you said, Brian, and
Speaker 1: you got two games to go and you might have
Speaker 1: a playoff team. Yeah, there's gotta be a huge motivation
Speaker 1: there on his part. He's gotta feel like he's let
Speaker 1: down guys like Jason Witten, and you know, then something
Speaker 1: that maybe even Dak maybe you know, he's felt like
Speaker 1: he you know, hey, I missed I missed you guys
Speaker 1: when I needed to be here when we were playing
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, you got some guys in the team,
Speaker 1: maybe Orlando Scandrick. There's another veteran player justin Durant. The
Speaker 1: guys that may not have a whole there's guy, there's
Speaker 1: guys without campaigns here that have not many campaigns left.
Speaker 1: And so to miss that part of it, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully he's got that that remorse in his in his
Speaker 1: heart right now. Yeah. I think that goes to Lamon's
Speaker 1: question about, you know, Dak not having Zeke, the narrative
Speaker 1: that he wasn't able to do it in two games,
Speaker 1: you know, two division games as well. And what's been
Speaker 1: the difference with what with what difference? That's the last
Speaker 1: two questions. Yeah, what's been the differences? It's got a
Speaker 1: healthy offensive line, Yeah, you've been you've been talking about that.
Speaker 1: You've been getting the right tackle that's played at a
Speaker 1: pretty nice level. You know, your left guard has not
Speaker 1: been been an issue. I mean, they didn't they didn't
Speaker 1: go five games and it's like, oh, now I know
Speaker 1: how to play without Zeke, Like the light just came on.
Speaker 1: I think if you listen carefully how he answered the
Speaker 1: question and how Jason answered the question, they weren't buying
Speaker 1: into that theory. Yeah, well yeah, there's that. I mean,
Speaker 1: what did he learn? What did he have to learn?
Speaker 1: What do you mean back? Yeah, like hit the open receiver. Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 1: he got sacked fourteen times in those three games that
Speaker 1: they lost fourteen Think about that. That was his fault
Speaker 1: because he didn't know how to play without Zeke. They
Speaker 1: got complete performances from the entire football game his last
Speaker 1: team last you got it. You got a special teams touchdown,
Speaker 1: you got a bunch of takeaways against Washington, and Sean
Speaker 1: Lee made a huge difference last week. Offense didn't give
Speaker 1: up thirty points. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a team game,
Speaker 1: no question, team game, all three phases. Hopefully we don't
Speaker 1: see any more missed extra points from Dan Bailey. No,
Speaker 1: don't need that. Yeah, we don't need that. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you're going to look at something. I think,
Speaker 1: no matter what, this game this weekend will be a
Speaker 1: close one because whenever you have to look at you're
Speaker 1: relying on your defense to shut down an offense. Always
Speaker 1: feels like it gets really close. Yeah, it kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of the Falcons game a little bit, does Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because you're facing a team that was really good last year,
Speaker 1: that's still got a lot of talent offensively and for
Speaker 1: some reason they haven't been able to play well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're trying to find an answer. And so can
Speaker 1: they find an answer at home? Who's had a more
Speaker 1: disappointing season the Dallas Cowboys are the Oakland Raiders with
Speaker 1: the expectations that were set from the outside perception of
Speaker 1: what their teams were capable of producing. Of course, you know,
Speaker 1: Derek Carr led them to the playoffs. Who wasn't able
Speaker 1: to play? Had to have on our cook step in. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he missed a game, right, one game? Did what do
Speaker 1: you think he missed the playoff game? The You know
Speaker 1: that what's the strangest thing right now is its six
Speaker 1: and seven. The Raiders are still in it's the chance
Speaker 1: to win the division absolutely, and then and they've got
Speaker 1: and they've got games against the division, they got they
Speaker 1: got to play. They gotta finish with the Yeah, they
Speaker 1: got the Eagles. Well they got the Eagles and the
Speaker 1: Chargers left after the Cowboys. They're one game different than
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's what I'm saying. They're exactly the same.
Speaker 1: You can you can have the stats, look at how
Speaker 1: they've won in a streak and lost in a streak.
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to put To answer your question,
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to put the Raiders the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I mean, with what we've known with the six games
Speaker 1: or hopefully will be three and three without Zeek. But
Speaker 1: I think that to me, Raiders, Cowboys, Tampa, with those
Speaker 1: teams that I was kind of expecting better, better results.
Speaker 1: It wasn't expecting the Saints to be division leaders right now.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I wouldn't expecting that. Had
Speaker 1: to answer my own question, I think I'd go with
Speaker 1: the Raiders on this one because I thought once Derek
Speaker 1: Carr was coming back. Of course, he got injured Week five.
Speaker 1: That never helps anyone, but I thought they were going
Speaker 1: to make a real run. I thought, Okay, they're finally
Speaker 1: getting that confidence they've needed. They returned to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It was a disappointing playoff because he had a rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback who never started a football game. But you had
Speaker 1: all the pieces, and you added more pieces. I mean, guys,
Speaker 1: what would you look at our d line if we
Speaker 1: had Bruce Irvan and Klolmack on each end? Oh sure,
Speaker 1: I think we'd be pretty dangerous out there. Mario Edwards
Speaker 1: is not a bad player either now, and but their
Speaker 1: problem has been they haven't in the game. Look at
Speaker 1: the scores of the games they've lost, absolutely scored like
Speaker 1: oh no, eight points. Yeah, point. They haven't scored more
Speaker 1: than seventeen points and every loss they had, all seven losses.
Speaker 1: Oh so yeah, their problem has been surprisingly on offense,
Speaker 1: or you wouldn't think get right. Yeah, it's and it's
Speaker 1: very stumbling when you have something like Amara Cooper. Of
Speaker 1: course he's been banged up. But Marshawn Lynch, I mean,
Speaker 1: his yards average is very low. It's very low. I
Speaker 1: think it's like point two point two. Yeah for him
Speaker 1: for probably not that bad because he's a plugger. He's
Speaker 1: never going to be a guy that's gonna take off
Speaker 1: and hit you for eighty yards at the line of scrimmage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes I look at him, but he's still got seven
Speaker 1: touched the fullback. He's bill like one. He is truck,
Speaker 1: he is he's dangerous. But you know, regardless, I think
Speaker 1: you're right, Brian. The Raiders are almost in a better
Speaker 1: spot though, just being where they are in the eighth. Well,
Speaker 1: they went and laid an egg at Kansas City last
Speaker 1: week and they had a chance to games between them,
Speaker 1: had a chance to bury Kansas City last week after
Speaker 1: all the problems they have and make them six and
Speaker 1: seven set of them, So they've got stuff to play for.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question that they need to draw
Speaker 1: the line in the sand right now. They need they
Speaker 1: need a victory, and so does DAOs. Sounds like to
Speaker 1: speak that del Rio gave him after they blew their
Speaker 1: chance against the Chiefs who had lost what four straight,
Speaker 1: and they get beat by them like they got pummeled. Strange,
Speaker 1: Lady del Rio can give some good motivational Rio said,
Speaker 1: they need to play like their hair's on fire. Hairs
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