1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Holy crap. We gotta guess, and we got a guest. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: And hey, if you hear baby noises, I apologize. The 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: baby is sick and could not go to daycare. So 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: he's down here. Well I'm glad he's here with us. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Well I didn't. I don't have a wife 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: at home. So this is it. Do you guys get 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: a divorce? She cheated? No, no, no, she's in. She 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: went to go see her sister. Are you gonna hit it? 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: We got a guest, ray, let's button it up. Let's 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: act professional. Arnold, did you get him some water? Get 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: the last? Another dumbass, And they met another dumbass, and 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: they became the dumbass tree at the end. I'm gonna 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: save the inside jokes because Matt Overton is with us. 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: But Arnold is continuing to be searched for in Lake Mead, 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: next to Vegas. We do believe he died during the 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Sore Losers convention in Vegas. More updates to come on 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: the crime podcast. Um one, so I'm gonna do it live? 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh the one, two, three? So losers? What up? Everybody? 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm lunchbox. I know the most about sports. I'll give 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: you the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: much a sports genius. What's up, y'all. It is siss 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: and I'm from the North. I'm in Alpha Male. I 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: live on the West side of Nashville with Bazer. We're 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: in Clay and Bucks Studio. It's an absolute pos. But 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: we have Matt Overton with us, massive star from the 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. You guys know who he is. One of 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: the most reachable people you can talk to. In the end, 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: I reach around reach a bowl. That's how we were 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: able to book. You know, what's wrong with your voice? 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: What do you mean you sound kind of stopped up? 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean my nose has been jacked up. Sinside the 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: stomach virus. Okay, well that's what it is. What up, Matt? 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: It's going to be here? Are you sound good? Whoa 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: WHOA little static over here? Is it better now? I 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: mean this is Clay and Bucks. Actually this his Clay 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: and Bugs Studio, and it blows all right. First thing 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I noticed about Matt he rolls two phones, business and 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: personal coming yeah, oh, real estate, Yeah, I gotta. I 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: got an indie number and I got my old school 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: number of heads since high school. Well, hey, welcome back. 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: It's good to be back. I'm sorry. Unfortunately a little early, 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. Unfortunately, a little early. 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into all that, but we we're gonna 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: start right off. All the talk this past weekend is 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: about the refs cheating. It's set up. The NFL has fixed. 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: The refs don't like goes. The rest wanted the Chiefs 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: to win. The rest wanted this team to win. Is 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: there that talk in the locker room when a game 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: is officiated bad? Do you guys sit around and is 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: there are people like man, they didn't want us to 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: win they Does that go on? Or is it just 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: the fans that think that way? No? I think there's 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: an internal perception sometimes that the refs could be one 54 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: sided at points in time. Um, obviously the referees have 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: been under the microscope big time past what three years, 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: four years now, it's been. It seems like every year 57 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: it almost gets worse. And I don't know why that is. 58 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: I think maybe it's the pressure, maybe it's I don't know, 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. The game's getting faster, they're not seeing 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: certain things. I do agree, like I think the game 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: has gotten faster, and when you look at the referees, 62 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: they are so old. Like Dick Bavetta in the NBA, 63 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: he's like seventy five years old. I don't even if 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: he's still refs. But it's like, guys, at some point 65 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: we have to go with younger guys because at like forty, 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: your eyes start to go. That's when they always say 67 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna start and needing readers. You gotta get lay sick. 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: And then by sixty most people can't see without glasses 69 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: or some kind of comment. Coach, I can't even see 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: across the field myself. I have to imagine that it's 71 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: pretty tough for some of those guys. And so I 72 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: feel like at seventy you're not seeing what you did 73 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: at forty. So at some point, and I think they're 74 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: grandfathered in, they can't be fired, right. I have no 75 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: idea what their They must have a good union, I 76 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: don't know. But what you want a twenty year old 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: buck out there, not a twenty year old, but you 78 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: need some former players out there is what you need. 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: They don't want to do it, though, why not? Because 80 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: it's the coach. It's the greatest gig. It's the most 81 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: cleared on it's found on But listen, you're at home. 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: You're at home Monday through Saturday. You fly out Saturday 83 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: night two over, you're plane and you you rough the 84 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, You're the most scrutinized, most hated person 85 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: in America. But at the end of the day, if 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: you screw up, it's it's human. Are you go home? 87 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: People forget about twenty four hours later. I mean, obviously 88 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: the magnitude of playoff games is different. Do you think refs? 89 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: But it should have to have press conferences where they 90 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: answer questions, just like coaches and players at one. That 91 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: would be so cool that beat for TV. It'd be 92 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: great for TV. It would hold them accountable, but also 93 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: to help the refs. I don't understand why with technology 94 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: and instant replay, we can't have a set of guys 95 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: like us sitting in this room reviewing every single play 96 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: in real time within twenty to thirty seconds. We can 97 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: phone down to the head umpire and say yes or 98 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: no roughing the pastor on past interference on. But the 99 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: problem where those are is it's judgment calls. Those are 100 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: all judgment. It's like yeah, but they're also judgment calls 101 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: that sway a game, and I agree in massive moments 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: so rough in the past of this year has been 103 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: the black eye of for sure, because one time you 104 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: can use if it's a backup quarterback, you can slam 105 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: them into the ground. If it's a starting quarterback, you can't. 106 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean Barrow get touched, Burrow did get touched, but 107 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: you can't even do anything. It's like crazy, but you 108 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: need to have those those plays like passing interference. You 109 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: know when it's when it's a forty yard swing, we see, 110 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: here's my NFL rule change. Okay, if we're gonna do 111 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: it's a spot foul, then if it's on the offense 112 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: moving back forty yards, if it's forty yards down the field, 113 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: moving back forty yards instead of oh, it's only a 114 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: ten yard penalty, it's like, well, this is stupid. And 115 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: all these automatic first downs, like oh, it's it's third 116 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: and thirty illegal contact down field five yards automatic first down. Ridiculous. 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: I agree, ridiculous, but yes, the I think every play 118 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: should be reviewable. You should be able to challenge any 119 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: player you want. The game would be ten hours, but 120 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 1: you still only get the two challenges. Is what I'm saying, 121 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: you still get this, and then if you get both right, 122 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: you get a third challenge. But you should any play 123 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: you want to challenge, you should be able to challenge it. 124 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: But let's say this game, Kansas City Bengals, did the 125 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: better team win? Yes? Yes, then what we're talking about, 126 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: I mean that the most yards, the most points, Patty 127 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: was the most prolific sucked. They were terribly almost lost 128 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: by two touchdowns if Patty didn't wobble wobble the ball 129 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: at the fifty. I agree with you that the better 130 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: team won. The Chiefs were the better team, they performed better. 131 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: But just when you have those crazy calls, it it ruins, 132 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: it diminishes the fact that how good Kansas how much 133 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: better Kansas City was in the game, And all people 134 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: talk about is the ref. They're not talking about the game, 135 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: and that's a problem for the NFL. But here's the thing. 136 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: No one's gonna stop watching, No one's gonna stop gambling 137 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: on it because it's the NFL and it's football. People 138 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: will eventually stop gambling when they lose their houses. No 139 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: they won't. There's people losing their asses out there, dude. 140 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: It's every billboard every street corner. When you got your 141 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: wives talking about the betting line, you know it's a problem. 142 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: Every commercial, every commercial break has a draft Kings or 143 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: this or that, and it's like, jeez, Jamie Fox on 144 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: his phone betting fifty. I will say the commercials man 145 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: as a gambling I'm a little bit like this makes 146 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: me feel girls. This is what I learned about the NFL. 147 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: The NFL is a well oiled machine that is pretty 148 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: much untouchable. So it's all perception. If they come out 149 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're gonna we're gonna assemble this new 150 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: board of trustees or whoever it is to overlook the 151 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: referees per game or whatever it is. We we evaluate 152 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: because they evaluate every crew. Every crew gets a grade 153 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: after game. That's how they assemble these all star supposed crew, 154 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: supposed cruise for the player. But I don't like that. 155 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: I think if you're a crew all season, you should 156 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: work together because when you're on the they work, they 157 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: have they have crews, they work all together. But then 158 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: when the playoffs happened, I think they assemble new cruise 159 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: and there's added there's added help. So I think they're 160 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: three more guys because I feel like if you get 161 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: new guys, they may not call pass interference the same 162 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: way you've been calling it all year, and so then 163 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: it just really screws everybody up. But so we actually 164 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: before every game on a Saturday, we review the refs 165 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: we have for that game. So we say, hey, we 166 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: have obviously Ed hockey is not doing any more, but 167 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: you know we have Ed this week, we have his crew. 168 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: This is where they fall rank wise with penalties thrown. 169 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: We we know exactly all right, they're really heavy on 170 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: p I or you know, offensive holding, they're really high 171 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: in those categories. Um, so we review. We know who 172 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: we have. So if you know exactly what they look 173 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: for in the ref this last game that they said 174 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: he he favored home teams, yeah he did. But what 175 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying back to my first point, I think the 176 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: NFL will they'll release this statement, they'll do something. And 177 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: this goes back to every thing you can think of 178 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: from the COVID stuff too, um, you know, the tuck rule, 179 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: to all the stuff. They'll they'll come out with something 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: to make it look like they're making adjustments that if 181 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: they did it, they don't care because what Lunch has said, 182 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna watch, everyone's gonna buy a game ticket, everyone's 183 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: gonna buy merchandise, everyone's gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna bet. 184 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: The NFL don't care. They're alpha male and everything. Hey, 185 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: NFL is fine with us arguing about Patty getting touched 186 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: on the shoulder there because we're talking about the NFL, right, Well, 187 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: but I mean they're happy, they don't care. They don't care. 188 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: But if the more safety, if Hamlin want died, NFL 189 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: would have had a massive project to different I don't know, 190 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: it's not they got they love Patty Cake talk. They're like, 191 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: thank you for talking about Patrick Mahomes and not tomorrow Hamlin. 192 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's a whole another situation. But like 193 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, I don't 194 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: think the NFL is gonna do anything where they're gonna 195 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: make these strides to really change, you know, the nature 196 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: of the game itself and all window dressing. When they 197 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: come out with these statements, it's like, Okay, we want 198 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: to make the fans happy. We want to make these 199 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: talking heads on TV and radio and stupid ass podcasts 200 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: like the Sore Losers happy and say we're gonna make 201 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: change but really it's just window dressing. This committee does nothing. 202 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Now when you watch it, do you think, oh, man, 203 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: they want the Chiefs to win, or do you just think, oh, 204 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: they just missed a call here and there. I don't know, 205 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I because I've been I've been a part of several games, 206 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is true. This is 207 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: just the way I see it, and I think a 208 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: lot of guys see it. You know, if there's a 209 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: bad you know, uh penalty, whether it's like you know, 210 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: defensive holding that gives the offensive first down. Um Almost 211 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: more than half the time, I feel like we get 212 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: a penalty called that favors us eventually in the game. 213 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: I feel that happens pretty often. Make up all right, 214 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: So you think there is makeup. It's good for the 215 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: sport because I know there's guys, for sure, in the 216 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: in the in the heath the game, they see something 217 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: then they're persuaded by the other guys that was from 218 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: a different I don't get how the guy that's standing 219 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: lit with that right by where the player happens doesn't 220 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: call it and call it, but the guy diagonally across 221 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: the field seats that that blows my mind, he frees up. 222 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: That drives me nuts. And in the in basketball college NBA, 223 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: the guy under the hoop doesn't call anything, but the 224 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: guy standing out past the three point line calls a 225 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: foul underneath, And I'm like, you're not anywhere near the play. 226 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: That drives me crazy. Yeah, you haven't watched NBA since 227 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: the Spurs has been good? Now, I've been watching. I 228 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: watched a little. I'm watching you tune into the NBA 229 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: very little. He gave up on the Spurs last year. 230 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: I guess he's turned it around now, but I still 231 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: watch a little bit. And I haven't watched any Spurs 232 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: because they're not on national TV and I don't have 233 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: the NBA ticket. And I hope you haven't watched Kansas 234 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: in the past month because they just beat Kentucky. Going 235 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: to be back one day? Or is he done? Oh? Man, 236 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. That is a that's a bad situation. 237 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: Is that the dude that exposed himself? Yes, so he's 238 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: he's done for the near future. Well, I mean they 239 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: cut him well for sure. If he comes, I don't 240 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: think he'll ever be a Spur. He'll play in the 241 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: NBA eventually, I do believecause he was only nineteen years old, 242 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: really really good player. And that's why we got rid 243 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: of de Jon Day Murray is because he was supposed 244 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: to be the point guard of the future. Jon Day 245 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: Murray's awesome. He had like fifty points last night. He's 246 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: really good. But here's the thing. We got a lot 247 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: for him, and it didn't make Atlanta any better, Like, 248 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: it didn't make them a title contender. And they gave 249 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: us their first round. I mean they gave us like 250 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: two first rounds, maybe three, I don't know. In some 251 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: second round they gave up a ton just to get 252 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: to Jon Day. And I'm like, that's a great trade 253 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: for the Spurs. Great trade. But back to the NFL, 254 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: where we just none of that. I have some primo 255 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: rookie autograph cards, then do you we're gonna get his 256 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: stock really fell, So I have to ask about Patrick 257 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes card in a second. Are we doing that? Now? 258 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: We can talk about cards in a little bit. But 259 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: I want, yeah, deep teas, I want to get back 260 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: to the NFL. So when you watch it, like you 261 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: guys lose to the Niners, So the next week do 262 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: you cheer for the Niners? So it's like, oh, we 263 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: lost to the champion, or is it like you want 264 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: here's the thing? It was very, very tough or did 265 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: you even watch? I watched, but I didn't like intend. 266 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: I didn't watch with like intention and like I wasn't 267 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: gluded the TV. I was. I had it on as 268 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: in the background, we're just chilling. But here's my thing. 269 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: So I grew up a Niner fan, die hard Niner fan. 270 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: I grew up Dynasty in the nineties, and that's why 271 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: I texted young Joe Montange. I saw all that Jerry 272 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: Rice Kid and uh so to play to play the 273 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: Niners in the playoffs as a cowboy was pretty like 274 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: that rivalry growing up. That was the It was the rivalry. 275 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: But you gotta pay that behind you. You gotta put 276 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: your ass on the field, ye, But playing there, playing 277 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: on the road. My first time I LEVI. I played 278 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: at Candlestick. But first time LEVI I was pretty pretty awesome. 279 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: But there was a there was a pre game, little 280 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: little scuffle we got in with Williams. I saw that 281 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: because because mayors, how do you mahr or whatever the 282 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: hell you say, He's trying to wat some respect on it. Well, sorry, 283 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: I missed it, just like he was missing kids. And 284 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: he's trying to kick and they are just in his 285 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: ear and they're talking to him like how it wasn't 286 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: even it wasn't even in his ear. It was literally 287 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: this is this is this is pregame tradition, Like this 288 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: is how we've done it every single year for forever. 289 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: When we come out, there's there's an uh, there's a 290 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: visiting side, like we have our own visiting sideline, there's 291 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the home field sideline, and but we have designated end 292 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: zones that we warm up in. All right, So if 293 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: i'm we're the north side to the south side, whatever 294 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: the case may be. And for kicking, we usually go 295 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: to the opposing side first, get our stuff out of 296 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: the way, the other team does it on our side, 297 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: and then we flip flopping and move on. It's been 298 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: done that way forever for whatever reason, and I think 299 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: it was premeditated because it had never been done before. 300 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: Trying to get in the hand, I'm there, I get, 301 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: I get ready to snap the ball, and Deebo Samuel 302 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: standing right behind ah. And so what do you say? 303 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: I see? I look down, I see the bedazzled like 304 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: diamond cleats start, look up and it's Diebo's got a 305 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: big chain on and he's handing there. He's standing there 306 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: with his arms folded, saying, you're in our way. We're 307 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: trying to run routes. I'm like, bro are you serious 308 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: right now? Like we do this all the time, get 309 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: out of the way. He would not move. I moved, 310 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: I picked the ball up, went to the different hash. 311 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: He followed me and just stood right there. And then 312 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: he moved from me and stood in front of the holder. 313 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: And then that's when things got chirpy. And then Trent 314 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: Williams comes over, obviously enormous human being. You don't want to, 315 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: you don't want, you don't want he is. He will 316 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: rip your arms off and beat you to death with him. 317 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean that. He chimes in. Brock parties there. Brock 318 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: is being cool. He's like, hey, it's not a big deal. 319 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: Let's let us get our one rep and we'll move on. 320 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: And Robbie Gould and I Kicker comes over and he's 321 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: the one that kind of you know, puts the fire out, like, guys, 322 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: this is how we do it, right. So that was 323 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: our pre game. That was our That was our pre game. 324 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: Hour before the game, I'm pissed. I'm like, f these guys. 325 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: So for that reason is why I wanted them to 326 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: get their freaking wheels blown off by the Eagles. But 327 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: I also hate the Eagles too because there are That's 328 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: the hard part, you know what I'm saying. So I 329 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: was torn. I don't know if anybody's broke down that before. 330 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: That was great Ward center. You can use that, so 331 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: that is so interesting. Yeah, and I mean Bones Fossil 332 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: are John Foster, remember John John with the Giants. His 333 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: son was my supposed teams coordinator called Bones one of 334 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: the best, if not the best, post teams coordinator in 335 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: the league. He got he got in the mix. You know, 336 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: their special teams coordinator was just standing there letting it 337 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: all happen. I mean had to have been I think barstool. 338 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: The video was online. It was great because you just 339 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: watch it like what am I watching? What am I watching? Oh? Wow, 340 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: they're not letting this dudeki And I was like, he's 341 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: got to be a man. Jake McQuoid, the snapper, who's 342 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: who's hurt? He runs in like bad out of hell 343 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: coming in like and then that's when Trent, if you 344 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: see him, Trent Williams. He was a little shoulder bumped 345 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: to Jake, and that's when I walk over and like, 346 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: if I wasn't the only snapper on roster. Yeah, because 347 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: you can't get in trouble because you you're so important 348 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: to the game that if you again. I also don't 349 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: want to I don't want to find either, you know, 350 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: I forgot about to find. I mean, some of these 351 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: guys could care less about like they were. They were 352 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: different socks every week and they get fined twenty grand. 353 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: They don't care. Well, I'm he's trying to build a mansion, 354 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But that ran through my 355 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: mind because I wanted I wanted to bump some chest 356 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: in there. I wanted to go in and like especially 357 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: the debo because he was the one that was on 358 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: my heels. I really wanted to push him all the way. Oh, 359 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: I had my helmet. If you threw a punch, nothing, 360 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: But because NFL fights are so stupid, because people punched 361 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: people that have helmets on, It's like, guys, what are 362 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: you doing? But I wanted so bad to retaliate, and 363 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't. My wife would have been really upset, dude, 364 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: your wife would have killed you if you got fine. Hey, 365 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: what what would be the equivalent in the analogy if 366 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: somebody's blocking our mics like Clay and Travis, well, no 367 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: they were. They were blocking our studio door. We couldn't 368 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: even get in there, like no man, no man, you 369 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: ain't gonna get in their day. Excuse me? Like what like, no, 370 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: no this we do this every day. No man, not today, 371 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: not today. We're here, we're practicing. We're practicing like we're 372 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: that we're recording commercials. So how did it end up 373 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: stopping it? When Robbie Gould came over kind of got 374 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: guys under control, But for like three minutes it was 375 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: kind of a heated little thing going on that could 376 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: have escalated even I mean if somebody got shoved or something. 377 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: I think I mean, because you see what Trent Williams 378 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: can do, because you saw him in the Eagles, just 379 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: toss that guy like a rag doll, like they saying, 380 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: get out of my way, full like what are you doing? 381 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: You're like a little piece of dirt and I don't 382 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: want anything to do with you. Would there be an 383 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: option gonna go tattletale and tell the refs, they wouldn't 384 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: do that. I mean if they see obviously they see, 385 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: so the refs are out there pre game. Yeah, but 386 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: it's again, it's an hour. We're out there an hour 387 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: and thirty minutes before. So that's what I didn't know. 388 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: If you can get like, can you get a fifteen 389 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: yard penalty at that point in the game, because it's 390 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: not the games that started. I don't know. I'm sure 391 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: you can get ejected. Would have to assume if you fight, 392 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: I assume you get out. But if you push the 393 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: ref can't be like fifteen yards on the opening kickoff, right, 394 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if there's there's got 395 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: to be something in the playbook, the rule book that 396 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: says like if something happens pre game, there's got to 397 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: be some sort of penalized, you know, option for the 398 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: team that I don't know. Hey, in bad karma for 399 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel because what did he do minus nine rushing 400 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: yards that game? This game? I don't know what he 401 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: did that game. He didn't do much against us either, Yeah, no, 402 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: nobody did much against either team. It was it was 403 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: it was a very defensive, It was a slug. Where 404 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: was that game at sam Cisco. It was nineteen and 405 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: twelve was the final spoor. What do you do you 406 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: stay the night there after the game or do you 407 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: so you shower and head straight to the airport. Yeah, 408 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: on the bus, get on the bus going. Okay, did 409 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: you bump your head? That's okay, hey, I mean that's 410 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: a great story. So you know what we should do. 411 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: Probably take a break and we'll be right back. It's okay. 412 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: Here here, yeah, ok. Parenting and action. Oh boy, here 413 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: you want a ball? Yeah, it's great. Coach Overton doesn't 414 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: have to deal with this to this house. Dude, how's 415 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: having a girl? It's the best. But you don't get 416 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: to play sports. So that's the only suck you thing. 417 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: You better not say that on this podcast. You just 418 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: said it. Oh my god, No girls play sports, right? 419 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: Oh my? Hey throw balls back to you and stuff. Yeah, 420 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: she snaps them too. There's a girl on Saver Coach. 421 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm to be quite honest, man, I'm I'm excited to 422 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: uh do girls sports with her. I think it takes 423 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: my well, I don't think it's true. But if I like, 424 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: if she does soccer, that I don't I don't know 425 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: soccer very well, or volleyball or something like that. I 426 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: think I will enjoy that because I'm just I'm a parent. 427 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be intense. Yeah where my if I 428 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: have my boys playing football, I would be like more 429 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: emotionally involved. What's gonna be? Boy or girl? Do you 430 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: guys know? We don't know. I think it's a boy though, 431 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: so I thought I didn't think I saw it announced. 432 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: I didn't see you doing a snap. We go old school? 433 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: How did you get to do the first one to 434 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: do it? Surprise? And this one right here he was 435 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: a surprise stop bubble coming out. It's a coach here, 436 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: I got cleanex in my pocket. Good. It's like it's 437 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: like a snop bubble from the little giants. All three 438 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: of ours were surprises. So it's the best thing ever, 439 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: the best. It's so exciting when they come out and 440 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: he was like what is it? Like the first one, 441 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: the doctor you know, got it and put it on 442 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: my wife's chest like and my wife's like what is it? 443 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, it's a baby. Yeah, just goes no, 444 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: what is it? And I'm like, oh, yeah, what is it? 445 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: And I figured out it's a boy. Yeah, it's a boy. 446 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: You have three boys, right, you have three boys, and 447 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: so don't say their names. We don't know. But my 448 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: question back to so we live again, guys, if you're 449 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: listening to this crap, you've got a boring commute. Good gosh, 450 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: hey Bud, you okay, you want to get down. That's 451 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: why caller Daddy's number one, stop with color Daddy. Brogan's 452 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: number two. I would say Joe Rogan's probably number one. 453 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know the call her to anything. 454 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: I just I learned of it because of portnois being 455 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: there's no chance at this number one. They're up there. 456 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: I know they're up there. I would have to imagine 457 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: that that Rogan's got the Yeah. Now, my question for 458 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: you is, so do we want to start the beginning 459 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: of you making the Cowboys through the season or you 460 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: want to go backwards when you were born? Do you 461 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: just go whatever you feel like, let's do let's do 462 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: you want to go with the most raw recent what 463 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: are we gonna do? Breakdown? I just want to know 464 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: the journey. So like the season is over, right, when 465 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: when the season is over and they say you have 466 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: your exit meeting, so you guys lose, you fly back 467 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: to Dallas. The plane ride is it silent? Is it 468 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: people still or or people still talking? Like do you 469 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: still do you get over? Like how how does it 470 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: go on the plane? Well, just to give you an idea, 471 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: winning on the road in the playoffs is the greatest 472 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: thing ever. It's it's way better than at home. So 473 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: like when you beat Tampa, it's just like crazy because 474 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: because the Camarado you have, you you you're on the 475 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: bus together for a couple of hours. Then you're on 476 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: the plane for a couple of hours, so you have 477 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: that time together to like really like bask in the 478 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: moment of and there's some you know, there's some pops 479 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: going around on the plane and everyone's enjoying it, you know, coaches, staff, everybody. 480 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: We can enjoy the moment. For that three hour flight home. 481 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 1: At a home game, you just like you pack up, 482 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: shower up, and everyone just kind of goes off their 483 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: own way and you don't really have that time to 484 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: really enjoy it as a team. Obviously, when you win 485 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: like an NFC or a FC championship, you you do 486 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: this the trophy thing in the room, You have that moment, 487 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: but that's when like family comes down. You kind of 488 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: do your own individual thing. I feel like on the road, 489 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: that's when, like you really, those are the those are 490 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: the moments you cherish a little bit more so with 491 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 1: that being said, you can imagine what it's like when 492 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: you lose on the road. That's a long journey home. Yeah, 493 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: especially when you feel like you should have won the 494 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: game and you're just what is it? Southwestern? It's like 495 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: a chartered plane chartered shout out United, How boys, Pepsi 496 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: only product flight too. She's crazy, drives me crazy. I 497 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: can't even I can't go ask for a coke zero 498 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: even though it's right there in the in the fridge. No, sorry, 499 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: this is a Pepsi sponsored flight. They just give me 500 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: the coke zero? Are you serious? Like, no one, No 501 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: one's gonna see there's no there's no media on there, right, No, 502 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: it's just their sponsors on the plane somewhere. Oh yeah, 503 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: we saw we fly with a lot of unnecessary people. Okay, Like, 504 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: like there are people on that flight that have that 505 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: that that spent a lot of good mon whether they're 506 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: a sponsor, and I get it right, you sponsored, they 507 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: gotta be. But there's there's people on that flight that 508 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: are just fans have not not normal fans, but maybe 509 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: they're extended family of the coaches or you know, the 510 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: Jones family or where the case. Maybe, but there's moments 511 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: where you have to like there's you need to now, 512 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: do these people when they're on the plane, did they 513 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: come up to the players? No? No, no, no no, no, 514 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: they're like everyone's in first class, we're in the back. 515 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: So they know, like stay the f away, Like there's 516 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: nobody just wandering up and down the aisle like it's 517 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: it's not people going up and night. Hey that can 518 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: I get a selfie? No? No, no, no. What I'm 519 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: saying is there's people that aren't directly involved with the 520 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: team that are in those flights, whether it be a sponsor, 521 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: whether it be maybe somebody one you know they auction off. 522 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: Hey go on the road trip with the Cowboys to Okay. 523 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Now in the locker room, does McCarthy 524 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: give a speech after the game? How do you lose it? 525 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: Or is it just like in the moment of that, 526 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: like where it's tough, you know, you lose a tough 527 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: game like that, Like there's not much to be said, 528 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: but he says something and you go back to Dallas. 529 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: You spend the night and do you leave the next 530 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: day or they say these exit meetings? Do what? What 531 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: is an exit meeting? Is that where you have to 532 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: go in? Do you have to hand over your playbook? 533 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: Do they tell you a great season? Or they tell 534 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: you like if you're because you're a free agent now, 535 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: so I I guess if you're still under contract? They 536 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: say this is what you need to work on? Or 537 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: what is an exit meeting? Because you hear about it 538 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: the news, like, oh, the Cowboys are having their exit 539 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: meeting today, What the hell does that mean? So you 540 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: go in. You have a scheduled team meeting. So most 541 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: of the time you all every time you go in, 542 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: you have an exit physical. So you go and see 543 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: the team doctors. They you know, they sign off on 544 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: you that you're healthy. There's no lingering injuries, there's nothing 545 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: that you need to do surgically, you know, to get repaired. 546 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: So you have that UM and then you have a 547 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: team meeting. And our team meeting involved you know, McCarthy 548 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: talking to Jerry Jones talking to us. That's pretty brief. 549 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: It was like ten minutes and then we have like 550 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: this checklist. All right, we need to go to equipment room. 551 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: We need to you know, go in there and turn 552 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: our stuff in, or you know, say I want to 553 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: buy my helmet, jersey, etcetera. So they know, um, get 554 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: that done. Then you go, Did you buy your helmet jersey? Yeah? 555 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: But everything? Yeah, and then I already have already owned those. 556 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: But I bought the two issued Cowboys helmets and all 557 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: of my jerseys Apple pay just tap right there, sir, 558 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, just just reduct, reduct out of my paycheck. 559 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: That's what it is, pretty much. And how much does 560 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: the helmet cost you? It's it's crazy. Some of them 561 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: are like bucks are depending on the model you wear, 562 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: Like those really cool ones I don't know if you've seen, 563 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: like the ones that like and those ugly ones that 564 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: else wears. Those are probably like and they charge you 565 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: full price. Yeah damn. They are cut thrown and they 566 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: give you I think they give you one jersey for 567 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: free and then the rest you buy. So every game 568 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: war jersey you can buy. And those are like everyone 569 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: I bought them, yeah, because I don't have any Cowboy stuff. 570 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: That's Pretty's a little different when you've maybe been on 571 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: the team for a while, if you've been on there 572 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: for five years. Team. Yah. Yeah, so we do that. 573 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: We do that, we do the medical side, and then 574 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: we do we go to our position coaches having exit 575 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: meeting with them. Um and again, it could be brief 576 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: or it could be pretty extensive. Obviously, I would have 577 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: to imagine that quarterbacks having an hour long conversation with 578 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: their compared to someone like me or something, and then 579 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: I and then I see McCarthy and then that's pretty 580 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: much it. So within twenty four hours you or you 581 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: lose the game, you go home. Damn, within twenty four hours. 582 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: It's cleaning less than twenty four hours. Really clean out 583 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: your stuff, say your goodbyes. See you know, a lot 584 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: of hungover dudes walking through Yeah, hungovers balls like, oh man, 585 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: you want to talk, we'll see. We'll see you in April, 586 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: you know. You mean a lot of a lot of 587 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: guys stay around though, whether they live there full time, 588 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: or they go in there and still work out because 589 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: they're under contract, or they get treatment. You know, if 590 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: you're injured, you have like some mandatory treatment. You don't 591 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: have to get it there, but most guys do. Hey, 592 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: you make some friends on the team or they I mean, 593 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: obviously the punter and kicker Anger and Maher obviously really 594 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: close with them. How how awkward is it for Maher 595 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: and for you when that the week leading up to 596 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: the Niners game, they signed Biscuy, you know, the other 597 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: kicker just for whatever the hell his name is. Fis guy. 598 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: You know, that's a baseball player. So that's what I 599 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: go with. Is it awkward? It can't be. Yeah. What 600 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: made it awkward for me is is me and Tristan Visca. 601 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: You know, we played together in l A. So I 602 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: have a relationship with him already, but I understand the 603 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: pressure that Brett's under and you know, the scrutiny to 604 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: that he's under. So I have to be mindful of 605 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: how how I am towards Tristan. So I'm not going 606 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: to be all like, you know, buddy buddy with Tristan, 607 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: even though he's my boy. So Maher and him are 608 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: not buddy buddy. It's like they don't They would, they 609 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: would talk, we would spend time together, but Brett was 610 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: so laser focused on like his job, that he wasn't 611 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: really talking to anybody. You know. He was just like 612 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: a I'm just gonna fly under the radar as much 613 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: as I can have a good week of practice and 614 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: let's go play. It would be like if we brought 615 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: another guy in here with a deep voice, you wouldn't 616 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: talk to him. You guys to be rivals. Yes, No, 617 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: that's what I just wondered. Like it like it like 618 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: they stand on opposite sides of the field and Matt 619 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: has to snap it to you know, ma her and 620 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: then it's like, all right the thirty minutes, Hey man, 621 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: I gotta go snap as you know, any coach, Viskano 622 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: whatever is, or anybody else that can snap on the 623 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: team or just you snap, just me, job security, baby. 624 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying about how it has to 625 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: be awkward for him to say, all right, Maha. It 626 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: made it more awkward because I already had a relationship 627 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: with Tristan. But Tristan Tristan's he's been in the league 628 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: for a while now. He unders he came in like listen, 629 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't asked to be brought here. You know, he 630 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: was signed. Why didn't they go to him? Though? And 631 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: Maha was cold it was they didn't. He went on 632 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: the active roster, so game day he's inactive, so he's 633 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: not dressed out for so why don't they bring him 634 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: just like they literally they had they would have had 635 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: to swap Maha in him. No, well, they competed in 636 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: practice the whole Mah crushed it. He was perfect all week. 637 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Has been great here, he 638 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: has been great. Yeah, he's a really good He's had 639 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl season. I went to bed. I didn't 640 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 1: even see the misses. So to me, it was it 641 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: was it was a flute game. It was it was 642 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: Actually it was crazy. It's like when you when we 643 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: were a single, you know, you go to the bar 644 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: someone just have a weird night where exact like where 645 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: you're you're throwing all your lines out the work every 646 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: single time you're hitting anything, and it's like meet me 647 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: at a soho at one twenty, and then you see 648 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: who's going to show up, and you go to soho 649 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: at one twenty and none of the chicks that you 650 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: met earlier in the night show up, and you're like, 651 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: something's wrong tonight. It's just weird, like that never happens. 652 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: And that's what happened with that. The night ends that 653 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: you're talking to a guy named b J on Church Street. 654 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean been there at a Hawk Talk stands. H Yeah, 655 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was. It was a tough 656 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: week just because like obviously the media Dallas is like brutal. Yeah, 657 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: it's probably the toughest in the league, there's no question. 658 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: And what's it like in the locker room for him? Well, 659 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: the thing is, he's he's one of our team leaders. 660 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean, so, I mean, he's had a great year. 661 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: He's one game. One game, he's one game, So that's 662 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: everyone was behind had his back. So it wasn't awkward, 663 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: like he wasn't walking around feeling like people hated him. 664 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he was piste off the he had 665 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: a tough game like that because I look at like 666 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: sometimes kickers, you know, they missed the game winner or whatever, 667 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh my god, I'd hate to be 668 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: that guy, you know what I mean. But at the 669 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: same time, without that kicker, you wouldn't be in that position. Yeah, 670 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: a lot of times, this is what we say about specialists. 671 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: This is what we say about specialists league. Everybody wants 672 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: that job Monday through Saturday, but no, he wants it 673 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Bam put on a shirt. That's how it is. 674 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: Everyone everyone hates on the specialist during the week Oh, 675 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: you don't practice, you don't do nothing. You know, we 676 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: get it, we we understand it. But no one wants 677 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: that job. No one wants to go being the emergency 678 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: snapper on Sunday if something happens where I get hurt 679 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: or something. Everyone on the weekend at the bar, everybody 680 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: wants to be a radio host. Nobody wants to be 681 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: a radio host. Monday five Am. Put that on a shirt, 682 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: Monday Monday Quarterback. And it's like it's like when you 683 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: call Batter's Box to get him on the pod, he 684 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: acts like he has a lot to say, and then 685 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: he has nothing to say. It's like, I thought you 686 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: wanted to be on the pod. Had his brother on, 687 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: he gave us like two sentences. It's like, we're like, 688 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: we needed your exit interview. Your brother's name is Batter's Box. 689 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: That's what we call him. You and he he that 690 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: he would ask. I don't know, and he is a 691 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: big Niners fan, so I called it. We called him 692 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: after the game this weekend, He's like, it was a 693 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: good season. That's all you got. That's it. That is 694 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: pretty good. Though we had a lot of the playoff 695 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: teams covered Atay with the Cowboys, Eddie with the Cowboys. 696 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: You Bears never made it, Titans never made it. Uh 697 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: Pitts with the Chiefs. Good. So let's talk about the 698 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: honor of wearing the cowboy the star? Like, how did 699 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: how amazing was it? It's really cool. It was like 700 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: I grew up despising the Cowboys. Like I said, I 701 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: was a Niner fan, so I hated as a kid, 702 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: I hated the Raiders and I hated the Dallas Cowboys. 703 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: But I always knew like those two organizations and franchises 704 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: or a historic you know, from Al Davis to Jerry Jones, 705 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: like those are still you know that that logo is 706 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: worldwide iconic, like people recognize those logos. Do you remember 707 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: where you were when you got the call that you're 708 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a Dallas Cowboy? Now? Do you remember wait, wait, wait, wait, 709 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: tell us after the break seventeen right once does more 710 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: with audio? Now, where was Matt Oh when he got 711 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: the call that he was gonna be a Dallas cowboy? 712 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: Outside the gym right up the street from here at 713 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: get Fit any time doing back squads working out on it. 714 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: I think it was like a Wednesday. They don't even 715 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: have that place anymore. Went out. I mean he used 716 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: to be over there in the South. It's it's it's 717 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: off eighth. It moved different, bigger location. Uh So, shout 718 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: out get fit any time. Um. Anyway, I was, I 719 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: was working out there. I was. It was it was 720 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: a during the during the off season during uh like 721 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: at this point it was we five or week four 722 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Typically a team will bring you in 723 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: for a workout on a Monday or Tuesday. Um. And 724 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: and what does that work out like? Is it just 725 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: you snapping the ball? Yeah, I mean it could be 726 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: some It's different everywhere you go sometimes to make you 727 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: do agility stuff and you know, kind of see what 728 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: kind of shape you're in. But you were in good 729 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: shape because you were doing videos every day. I saw 730 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: stay ready, um, shout out stay ready brand Um No, 731 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: I was. So. I think it had to have been 732 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: a Mondy or Tuesday because it happened after a game. 733 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: Jake mcquoy the snapper, UM had some sort of injury 734 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: in the game. Obviously got it Moria on Monday or 735 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: after the game. Check out the severity of it. Um. So, 736 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: I was working out up the street. I get the call, 737 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: but it was late in the day. It was like 738 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: maybe two two o'clock in the afternoon. Get the call 739 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: from my agents say hey, it's not for sure, but 740 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: it looks like Dallas wants to bring you in. And 741 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: typically the questions are asked like, all right, well, what's 742 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: the what's the opportunity? What is it just a workout 743 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: or is it really a legitimate opportunity? And so we're 744 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys are the rough riders? Yeah you know? 745 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah so And at to this point, this would would 746 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: have been my like fourth workout, because two weeks prior 747 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: to that, I was on the RAMS practice squad for 748 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: one week. Yeah, for so I was there a week. 749 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: Can you explain why they only keep you a week. 750 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: I was kind of the emergency guy. If their guy 751 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: had he had he had a little injury, then they 752 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: were a little unsure if you could play or not. 753 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: Got it. So I was there the whole week just 754 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: as a security blanket. It was awesome. I got paid, 755 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: I got one week on the practice squad, got the practice, 756 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: They got to spend the week in l A. They 757 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: talked to you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my those my 758 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 1: dudes because I played for that coach, No, Dick Camillis, 759 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: I played for him in Jacksonville. And then the specialists, 760 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: I'm cool with them. And then Jalen Ramsey's there, he's, 761 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, a former teammate. Oh that's right, Jacksonville, Nashville native. 762 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: And um, but I had had some workouts leading up 763 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: to I went to Denver. I went to l A. 764 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: Oh thank god you ended up in Denver. So that 765 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that, that situation coming up. So 766 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: I go to I'm literally doing back squad and uh, 767 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: my agent say is like, just stop your workout, go home. 768 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: I'll call you within the hour. Let' you know what's 769 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: going on. I'm way home from the gym to my house, 770 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: which is really a five minute um drive. One of 771 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: the scouts from Dallas calls me, who I know, I've 772 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: met um a few times, and uh he pretty much says, 773 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: are you ready? And so that let me know that 774 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: like the yeah, this is the real deal. It's not 775 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: it's not like I'm just coming in for a workout. 776 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: Because sometimes if they're working out a kicker or a 777 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: punter for a real shot, they'll bring in a snapper two. 778 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: So they can snap, you know, but they're really not 779 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,959 Speaker 1: looking for a snapper. You took the call while you're driving, 780 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: or you pulled over and took the call bluetooth coach. 781 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: I always always pull over the safe Yeah, do the 782 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: safe thing he hands driver. So I I knew after 783 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: that conversation with that guy, I knew that this and 784 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: how long is that? Is? It just it was like 785 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Hey, are you ready? Cool? I'll see you 786 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: all right? That was that was all I needed to 787 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: know to know that this was a legit. Something happened. Unfortunately, 788 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: something happened because in my in my position, we're not 789 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: getting called unless a guy gets hurt gets hurt, unless 790 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: they're bad snapping or they're not doing well. So not 791 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: too long after agent calls you back and says, hey, 792 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: you're getting a flight this evening and you're going to Dallas, 793 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: it sounds like the guy got hurt again. I don't know. 794 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. And they said Jerry's jet to get you. Unfortunately, no, 795 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: the jet was not being is being used at the time, 796 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: so they couldn't Compie got it because I know Lincoln 797 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: Riley when he left. Oh you, they said the jet 798 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: to you and I requested it, and I said I 799 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: would have I would have friended the gas bill, you know, 800 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: But no, I didn't work out, so I had to 801 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: jump on Southwest. Nice. Were you a list? I was? 802 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: I think I was a thirty. That's not bad and 803 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: not bad at not even a one through Fife, okay, 804 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: but still win. Not bad for a last minute flight. No, No, 805 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: not at all. So I fly to Dallas. You know, 806 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: I get I get there and there's there's four other 807 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: of us that's that's there and uh so this is 808 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: my first impression of Dallas as potentially becoming a player. 809 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: You go to the facility, you kind of see the amenities, 810 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: you see because there's some places where you go and 811 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: they just don't You don't get the vibe that they 812 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: really take care of their players, whether it be what 813 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: kind of food they're serving, if they give you per 814 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: d M, what kind of hotel they put you up in, 815 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: et cetera. Nashville so I've had some I've never worked 816 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: out for Nashville, so I don't I don't know how 817 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: the Titans street the guys. I mean, I played there. 818 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: It was great. But there's been places where I've gone 819 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: for workouts where you just feel like you're like, this 820 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: is really, this is really the NFL we're talking about. 821 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm at a holiday in down the street. You know 822 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Hey, I'm not an expert, but I 823 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: did say at a holiday and Express last night. Those 824 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: were great commercial. We got great Express in Nashville. I'm 825 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: about to stay there next week. But in Dallas, I 826 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: fly into uh you know, so I fly into the 827 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: there's two airports there, yeah, whatever, one, get picked up. 828 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: I see the guys who I'm with, you know, and 829 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: um go. They drop us off at the Omni. Nice. 830 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: Omnis nice, right, high class, like feeling feeling good about yourself. 831 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: But it's attached to the Star, which is the facility. 832 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: You're like, we're there. So I I go into my room. 833 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: I opened my curtain and I looked down at I 834 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: guess you would call like a pavilion, but it's a 835 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: turf field. Yes, I know what you're talking about. That Yeah, 836 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: hard knock. Well that's the that's they have one in 837 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: front of the stadium too, but the Stars our team facility. 838 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: So it's the Cowboys facility. You've got Dr Pepper attached 839 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: cur attached the omni attached in the Cross Streets restaurants, 840 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: retail it's just very, very nice, like you're in Jerry's world. 841 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: Jerry big screen TVs outside playing highlight clips. It's like 842 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: it's legit. And then you go in for the you 843 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: go in for the workout and see the Is that 844 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: not a little intimidating. It's not. I've been I've been there, 845 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: done that, like I've seen but as a rookie, Like 846 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: if you're a rookie you walk into you gotta be 847 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: like holy And I probably would have, probably would have 848 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: and I still did as as an older guy because 849 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: I've never been in the facility of that magnetude before. 850 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,479 Speaker 1: So you see why people want to sign with Dallas. Yeah, 851 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: or you you you see you when they say Jerry's world, 852 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: like you really walk into something that he created and 853 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: he did. So I walk into the facility, which is 854 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 1: like it felt like you were walking into a hotel. 855 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: So the receptionist area, the dining area, I mean, it's 856 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: just like it's immaculate. You know, all the cups, all 857 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: the all the napkins have the star on it, like no, 858 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: like everything is for his product. It's his team. You're 859 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: sleeping over the pads in the everything I'm not I'm 860 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 1: not exaggerating. Jerry Jones flies his helicopter on the field 861 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: and lands and for his meetings like that's how it is, 862 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: you know. And so my first impression of the Cowboys 863 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: organization was like, Wow, this is legit. So do you 864 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: meet Jerry on that day? No? I met him like 865 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: a week after. Ok. Yeah, But so they wait until 866 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: you're on the team to make before you can meet Jerry. 867 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: But Jerry is not going out of his way to 868 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: to to go meet the new long snapper. I was 869 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: if I was, if I wasn't Odell Beckham Jr. Like 870 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: the hype was all year about him coming. Obviously you 871 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: know Jerry, Jerry's got his hands in that right. Good job, 872 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: Internet sleuth. That was wrong. Well, I'm glad it never 873 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: happened either, not because he's not a good player, just 874 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: because I think it brought a lot of exactly a 875 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: much much, much better fishing. Absolutely. Yeah, But a team 876 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: really needs Antonio Brown. Titans need him. Tell me the 877 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: Titans don't need Antonio Brown. The Titans don't need nobody 878 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: needs Antonio Brown. I'll tell I'll tell you who needs 879 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown a therapist. Better help guys, Better help dot com. 880 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: But I go long story short, So I go, I 881 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: go have my workout. I get signed. They signed two 882 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: of us. They put both of us on the practice squad. 883 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: Did you know you were better than that other guy? Well, yeah, 884 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: because I have experience. This guy has never played in 885 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. They signed a young rookie guy, which is good, 886 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: but he has no experience. UMU him and uh so 887 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: they put both of us on practice squads. Are you're 888 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: supposed to mentoring for that week? Are you supposed to 889 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: be like will? Yeah? I did, yeah because when I was, 890 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: when I was a young guy, I had, you know, 891 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity to have an older guy kind of and 892 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: not a lot of guys do that. That's the Can 893 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 1: you hear these some of these quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers, 894 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna help him. Yeah, it's like Matt Hayes 895 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: is in me, pisses in a gatoray bottle, puts it outside. Hey, 896 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: Matt deflates the football. But there's a fine line. There's 897 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: a fine line. You can still be a professional and 898 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: a good mentor to a guy, but you have to 899 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: let them. They have to learn on their own too. 900 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: Exactly what I'm saying. You don't have to be uh, 901 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: you know, a hole to the person some guys are. 902 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: Some guys take it as a threat and say, I'm 903 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 1: not gonna help this guy. He's trying to take my job. 904 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: I get it. But I've been told by older guys 905 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: when I was young and saying, hey, if you're ever 906 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: fortunate to play at the age that you're at, just 907 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: pay it forward. And that's just being cool what they dude, 908 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: and just helping them along if they have any questions 909 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: not you know, yeah, it would be tough. I'm not 910 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: gonna go out of my way to say that, hey, 911 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: you gotta be here at nine am when he's supposed 912 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: to be somewhere else. Guys do that like, hey, no 913 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: ship team meetings at ten when it's really at nine. 914 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: Threatch out for that. Yeah, but but again, but again, 915 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: but again, but again. As a young guy, if you 916 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: don't know, go ask, right, he did ask the wrong person. 917 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: But you so you're telling me if when you walk 918 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: around a facility, you have so Cooper Harsh walks up 919 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: to deck hey man one times to meet tomorrow ten o'clock. 920 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: Damn dude, that is so dirty. Guys have done that 921 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: to God for your guess for sure, you know, and 922 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: in my industry, you don't want to create your own monster. 923 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: So that's why I refuse to teach anybody audio. Yeah, 924 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: I mean I hate it. I would I wouldn't want 925 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: people sitting in my chair. Yeah, but you can do it. 926 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: You can do it in a cordial like you did that. Yeah. Yeah. 927 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: Luckily my job, I can't teach what people how to 928 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: be funny or smart, like I can't teach people that 929 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: know that's God gifted brother, that's just talent your kids. Yeah, 930 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: I know if you've got about fifteen years and he's 931 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: gonna replace it. Looks like for me though too, Like 932 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: I don't want as a as a long snapper, punter, 933 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: or a kicker. We don't walk into a room with 934 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: eight the ten other guys because our position group isn't 935 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: a group, it's you're the individual. So when I have 936 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: when I'm on practice squad, or when I was in 937 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: l a like, or I have another guy with me, 938 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: it's nice having somebody there to talk to, well, just 939 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: to talk to you that understands what you're going through 940 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: the process of grind, the grind. So it's nice to 941 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 1: have that because for Brett, right, he had a tough game. 942 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 1: You don't have the five other kickers on the team 943 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: to lean on. You're in your own head the entire week. Yep. 944 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 1: So that could be tough. And I've been there before. 945 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: It's it's like you have a rough game, Like I 946 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: don't have anybody to bounce anything off of. I ain't 947 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: seen you a rough game though, well there had in 948 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: my career. There's been games where I'm like, dude, I 949 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: played like crap and you feel bad and you have 950 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: no one to you know, where the wide receivers they 951 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: can go lean on. You know, Gallop can go to 952 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: the CD or go to Brown and say hey man, yeah, man, 953 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We got you. We got you. 954 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: So my first so my first impression of the Dallas 955 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 1: Cowboys was like, wow, this is incredible in an honor 956 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: and when I got that helmet, put the star on, 957 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: like dude, this is the real deal. Like it's being 958 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: like it's like a Yankee and you see all the 959 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: you see all the memorability on the wall from the 960 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: history and the Super Bowls, and Charles Haley is walking 961 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: around every single day you see Jerry Jones. You see 962 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: all these dudes who you know are just icons in 963 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: the game that are right there, you know, like Jerry 964 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,919 Speaker 1: Jones has an eightieth birthday. I was there, was like, dude, 965 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm here with Jerry Jones. You know, he don't 966 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: look like he's eighty. He's sharper than a whip. Like 967 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: the dude is like he's the man. Why did you 968 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: guys that come to my birthday party? Did you get 969 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: invite the mail? Unfortudude? No, I didn't get I didn't 970 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: get invite on the on the private jet, the helicopter, 971 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: the sweet No, I didn't get that. How is it is? 972 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: Your wife when you tell her every week it's like, man, 973 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: I could be moving to Dallas. I could be moving 974 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: to l A. Like how do you balance that? Well, 975 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: it's tough because now you don't as a free agent, 976 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: it's a little uncertain. You don't know where you're gonna go. 977 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: And obviously I was like, all right, one week I 978 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: went to Denver, one week I went to l A. 979 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 1: One week I'm going to Dallas. And you don't know 980 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: how long the opportunity is going to be. So did 981 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: she go? Did she end up moving to Dallas with you? 982 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: She did eventually. I was there for probably about a 983 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: month before they came. Because now I'm there for a month, 984 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm know I'm here, I'm know I'm the guy moving 985 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: forward because unfortunately Jake is hurt for the whole year, 986 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: so they're now breeze like, all right, Dallas it is. 987 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna be there for the season. We're gonna figure 988 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: this out, and we're gonna move there. So on the 989 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: bye week, I flew back here. We packed up the 990 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: car and drove the Dallas. Dude, how nice so to 991 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: come home to a warm family instead of a cold 992 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: hotel room the entire season yourself. But there's players that 993 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: do that. There's there's players that leave their family back. 994 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: Coaches do the same thing. Like like when I say 995 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: the hotel was literally I'm a block away from our star. 996 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: So some of those people live in that hotel. So 997 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: I lived in the hotel. Those coaches players there was 998 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,919 Speaker 1: probably wait, did you live in that hotel the whole season? 999 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: The whole season? Yeah? We got an apartment. No, no, no, 1000 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: we went to go look for apartment, but it was 1001 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: like things were really expensive, out there, and and it 1002 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 1: was like, is it really worth the price that we're 1003 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: getting from this room that Jerry Jones discount best deal? 1004 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, are we really gonna, you know, fight over 1005 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 1: this where it's just temporary. It's like we're just here 1006 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: for three months, businessman. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1007 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: So we we hunkered down. We had our dog with 1008 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: us too. We're on the seven flour. We had to 1009 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: take our dog all the way down. Like it's just 1010 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: those little inconveniences, Like you got your two year old daughter, 1011 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: you don't have a school for her. Yes, we had 1012 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: to find school for her. So there's a those those 1013 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: adjustments you have to make. But we made it work. 1014 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: My wife's awesome. She she she hunkered down, She made 1015 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: her sacrifices. But it was fun. Hey he checks out. 1016 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: He's got two hundred room keys. He's been there eight months. 1017 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: But hey, another coach. Another little side note, a little 1018 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: added bonus about what we did is all the points 1019 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: we we stacked up. We got those points. Dog. Yeah, 1020 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: you can fly anywhere you want, so I can go buy. 1021 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't the omni was the residence in. You need 1022 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: to stay an omni in Nashville tonight. Yeah, but all 1023 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: those points for three months we got that's awesome. Yeah, 1024 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: so we we'll go and we'll go use that somewhere 1025 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: if we need it. You know. So what I was 1026 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: gonna saying, it's like the resources that the Cowboys gave players, 1027 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: Like we had free ubers whenever we wanted, We had 1028 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,439 Speaker 1: food available, We had restaurants we can go to where 1029 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: we eat for literally nothing. You know, Like Jerry has 1030 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 1: own little Cowboys Club exclusive club restaurant. Go up there 1031 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: and eat. Um, that's aweso the stuff that the Cowboys 1032 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: give the Now when you when you say you go 1033 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: eat there, did they say hey, you can bring your 1034 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: family and it's the same, like or is it just 1035 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: his wife didn't get to eat? I'm saying, like did 1036 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: she get the discount? So the Cowboys Club is in 1037 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: is in our facility. It's it's on the roof. So 1038 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: but it's an exclusive club. You can't go online and 1039 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: could me and lunch get into it? No, you can't 1040 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: go in. You can't you can't look up the menu. 1041 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: There's like you can't. You could mow and Tampa get in. 1042 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: So already I would call lady and say Hey, this 1043 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: is mad over to Cowboys. I want to bring my 1044 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: wife to dinner, you know, and they fit you in. 1045 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: But it's like a legit, very very high class exclusive restaurant. 1046 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: You never that overlooks our practice field and looks over 1047 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: the indoor field and all that kind of stuff. It's cool, 1048 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: but you walk in and and and it's a it's 1049 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: a it's equivalent to like going to Bourbon steak or 1050 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: high steakhouse and it's you know, you're probably spending four 1051 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: hundred dollars on dinner there and you come back and 1052 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: it's half off because you're a player or a coach, 1053 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: and um, so we had those. What I'm saying is 1054 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys give you as a player and a 1055 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: coach is far beyond what most organizations give their their people. 1056 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: You go there and you are, you wear that star, 1057 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: and there's perks to the business for being a cowboy. Hey, 1058 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: you put everything on your room when you checked out, 1059 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 1: it's like nine dude, I've used to it's gonna be 1060 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: a room charge. Yeah yeah, yeah, man. When when did 1061 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: your checkout day? Um, hopefully February February, right after the 1062 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yeah, But it's so that our experience there 1063 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: was incredible. And then when you travel it's like a 1064 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: home game. I mean the Cowboys. Yeah, Like when we 1065 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: were in Tampa are it was like we walked through 1066 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: the hotel and usually every hotel we walk into like 1067 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a ton of fans of waiting for 1068 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: us while we get there. And Tampa for that playoff game, 1069 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 1: even in for the Niners, I mean like the lobby 1070 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: is just packed. It's like the Beatles walking in town 1071 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 1: and it's crazy. That's cool. It's it during the weeks, 1072 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 1: like when you're playing the Texans, you got that game 1073 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: coming up. Is it a different attitude preparation wise? Is 1074 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: it kind of like, man, we're gonna beat them, or 1075 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: if we go through the motions, do you feel like 1076 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: there's less focus when it's a ship team compared to win. Oh, 1077 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: we're going to play the Eagles, like we gotta be 1078 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: freaking on it. It happens, and it's not I don't 1079 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: think it's intentional, but I think the attention to detail 1080 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of goes to the wayside sometimes. And and is 1081 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: it just players or do you think it's players and 1082 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,760 Speaker 1: country It's a mix of both. It's just the focus 1083 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: going into the like we played the Texans, they should 1084 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: have beat us. We ended up winning. That games are 1085 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: closed when Eddie almost shot himself and everyone, and then 1086 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, everyone comes down like, oh, how awful are 1087 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And then the next week we go and 1088 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: beat the Vikings whatever, and so it's like and then 1089 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 1: you beat the Eagles at home. I mean there's those 1090 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: It's just crazy how like, Yeah, I think the focus 1091 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: the focus shift goes. It's kind of like an extra 1092 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 1: bye week. You think of it as, oh, man, this 1093 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: team sucks. And I think even going against Jacksonville this year, 1094 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 1: we walked into that game, you know, and we were 1095 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: entering the fourth quarter up fourteen points and then losing 1096 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 1: the game over time. So it's like those games, man, 1097 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,280 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, we just you kind of overlook 1098 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: your opponent a little bit and then you play like 1099 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: you play that crap. Dude. I gotta say, though, I 1100 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: really didn't think you're gonna be in the NFL this 1101 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: year and then randomly the Cowboys hit you up. Dude. 1102 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 1: It was as a friend, like that was freaking cool. 1103 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: It was awesome, man, it was really cool. Man. I 1104 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: appreciate so some some up your Cowboys experience, Like before 1105 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: we go to break, I just want to hear like 1106 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 1: the Cowboys experience one sentence. Every every every stop I've 1107 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: had has been special in its own unique way. But 1108 00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: I think this tops them all because whoa what about Titans? 1109 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: That was COVID your coach. I mean it was like 1110 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: that was a weird here was how to wear a 1111 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 1: mask or no one even knew who I was to 1112 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: wear a mask on the side. Uh, that was funny 1113 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: because I got to stay at home. Um, but I 1114 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: al would have to say, like wearing that star like 1115 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 1: it's just like I said, it's like being a New 1116 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 1: yor Yankee. Man, it was. It was awesome. And after 1117 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: this we're gonna hear about the terrible trip to Denver. 1118 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: We'll be right back now, do you tease just with 1119 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk about Denver later. Yeah. Please, it wasn't a 1120 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 1: terrible trip, coach. I don't know why you thought it was. 1121 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: We have to tease it, like it's the way the way, 1122 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 1: it's a good, good story. Let's let's talk about it. 1123 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 1: So when did you get called to Denver? Is this 1124 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,399 Speaker 1: when Nathan you'll hack it? Before he had to hire 1125 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: someone else because he knew he didn't know what he 1126 00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: was doing. This was during training camp, so early training camp, 1127 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: and I played. I was in Jacksonable when Nathaniel was 1128 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 1: our o C. Yeah, any good dude. I love Nate 1129 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,919 Speaker 1: really really good dude. But in over his head last year. Yeah, 1130 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there. I don't think you 1131 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: can just put it all on his shoulders. I don't 1132 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: know what happened there. But anyway, obviously he's the one 1133 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: that he's got a fall yea. Um, but going in 1134 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: obviously as a free agent, you're like, oh, dude, it 1135 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 1: would be cool to go here. We could go there 1136 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: and be cool. You know, Like I was a little 1137 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 1: heartbroken I didn't get to go back to l A 1138 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: because I wanted to go back, and you know, they 1139 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: were kind of rebuilding that that that organization and team 1140 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: and it seemed like you guys had friends out. It 1141 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: was like you guys do campfires on the beach. Coach. 1142 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,760 Speaker 1: I was jealous. Yeah, it was so cool, and so 1143 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,800 Speaker 1: I think going and like it took me a while 1144 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: to get over the fact that I wasn't going back 1145 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 1: to the Chargers. So do they ever call you in 1146 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: the off season and say hey man, actually we're gonna 1147 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: sign a new dude. Are you the whole time, whole 1148 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: offseason thinking the Chargers are about to call, Chargers are 1149 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: about to call. No. So, leading up to free agency 1150 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: last year, I was certain I was going to go 1151 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 1: back to l A. The only thing that hurt me 1152 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: was they fired our special teams coach. So it was 1153 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 1: a little uncertain about how that was gonna work out. 1154 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: But when they when they hired the new guy, he 1155 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: called me. He called me said he want to introuced 1156 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: himself on him. So and so I'm the news supposed 1157 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,439 Speaker 1: Toms coordinator. You know, I love love you as a player. 1158 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: Else if we can have you back, would love to 1159 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: have you. So my I was I was planning to 1160 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: go as if we're gonna my agent had good conversations. Yeah, 1161 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: they want you back on a on a futures deal, 1162 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: but they can't afford you. That was sweet, Like they can't. 1163 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: They can't if they ever argued that you're going to 1164 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: break the salary cap for a long snapper there and 1165 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: here's the thing about the salary cap. It's not real 1166 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: is it's it's fictitious. I don't know why, it's just 1167 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: this weird. It's not the rams figure your way out 1168 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 1: to do it. It is not really. I mean, like 1169 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: von Miller this year, he made forty million dollars. You 1170 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: know why because they gave me like a five dollar, 1171 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: five million dollars salary, but they game a thirty five 1172 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: million dollar signing because there's ways around the salary cap. 1173 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: The salary cap isn't real. I don't care when they 1174 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,959 Speaker 1: come out all the salary camp next year is gonna 1175 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: be two hundred four million. Guess what, guys, it doesn't 1176 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 1: fucking matter. It's not real. Okay, sorry again. I was 1177 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: I was pretty certain that I was going back to 1178 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: l A. And we were excited because now we can 1179 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: actually plan. We know where we would like to live. 1180 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: We have a great uh my family's close, we have 1181 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 1: great friends there, and I just wanted to go there. 1182 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 1: I loved my time in l A. And UM and 1183 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 1: Dustin Hopkins, our kicker, lives here too, so we spent 1184 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: a lot of time together. You know, here in Nashville, 1185 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: no off season, so anyway, UM leading up to free agency, 1186 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: so it's like there's like that that gap where you know, 1187 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: the super Bowl ends, the seasons completely over and then 1188 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: between then March fifth or something that's like that gap 1189 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: where you don't hear much going on, the combines going on, 1190 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: and then free agency starts like March eighth or whatever 1191 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: it is, where teams can now start, you know, going 1192 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: after unrestricted free agents all that kind of stuff. So 1193 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 1: having the conversations with my exit meetings with the coaches 1194 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 1: and staff and GM, and I was with the GM 1195 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: to let's go in Indie. So I have a really 1196 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: good relationship. So moving forward, I just felt like, you know, 1197 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: the stars, we're gonna align with me. Going back to 1198 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: l A, I see what you do about um, Probably 1199 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: a couple of days before the free agency started, Uh, 1200 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 1: we weren't really hearing much. And then yeah, we weren't 1201 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 1: hearing much. Uh, and so get a litt concerned. So 1202 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: does your agents start picking up the phone and calling 1203 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: people or does he have to wait? Yeah, he starts 1204 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: cold calling people. Well, no, I had there's a point 1205 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: where I feel like I don't become an unrestricted free 1206 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 1: agent where I can go anywhere until a certain date, 1207 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: so leading up to it, I can and get resigned 1208 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: by the charges at any time. So I felt like 1209 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: a conversation kind of went stale, and then you kind 1210 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 1: of look around and see, Okay, what other teams guys 1211 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: are free agents? All right, yeah, they're probably gonna stay 1212 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 1: there are and they're gonna resign all that kind of stuff, 1213 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 1: and um, usually specialists are kind of the first guys 1214 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: they start resigning because it's easy. There's nothing to really negotiate. 1215 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's cutting dry. There's no like they're 1216 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 1: not signing these multi year deals. It's usually a one 1217 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: year deal and base minimum, all kind of stuff. And 1218 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: uh so a lot of the other snappers across the 1219 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: leaguer a getting resigned and we weren't hear much. Well, 1220 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 1: my agent calls me and say, hey, you know, it 1221 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: sounds like they're probably gonna they're gonna go after uh 1222 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 1: uh the Falcons guy who's gonna be a unrestricted free 1223 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 1: agent on a long term deal. Bullshit. So I'm like, 1224 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: dang man, weally like they're gonna do me like that. Yeah, 1225 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: So they end up signing him. Great player, But I 1226 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: was a little upset about that because I was I 1227 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 1: was pretty dead set on going back there, and so, um, 1228 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: that has to be an emotional feeling is a free 1229 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 1: agent because you feel like you're not wanted. You feel like, 1230 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's like oh man, but but it was. 1231 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 1: It was It was pretty cool that the GM Tom Slesco, 1232 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: he called me, he called me after that. They had 1233 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: sound that listen like, this is kind of our reasoning 1234 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: for it, you know. And a lot of teams don't 1235 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: reach out to give you any justification as to why 1236 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: they made a certain decision, you know, especially for a 1237 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: long snapper. But Tomas, Tomas professional enough and a bro 1238 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: enough to call me and just just give me the 1239 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: give me the respect, you know, and and so that 1240 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 1: that meant a lot. It still was was tough that 1241 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: I didn't go back to l A. But so from 1242 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 1: March all the way on, they're not I knew that 1243 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna be a free agent, Like my opportunity 1244 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't come until the probably the season. But usually when 1245 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: training camp starts, that's when teams are we may need 1246 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: to start evaluating some guys. And and that's when I 1247 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: started going on my workouts, and um so I went 1248 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: to Denver and I thought, again, when I say, look 1249 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,919 Speaker 1: around the league, like, hey, that'd be good play dude. 1250 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 1: At the time, Denver was probably a huge landing spot 1251 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: for a lot of guys as a free agent, like, oh, dude, 1252 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's there. Now, yeah, liberal living in Denver. It's 1253 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 1: probably one of the coolest places in the league. Um 1254 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: and everyone and everyone had when you looked at there, 1255 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 1: the predictions. A lot of people thought Denver was going 1256 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: to be the team to beat. They had Denver l a. 1257 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 1: The Chiefs like my homes and the Chiefs were like, 1258 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: I had them miss in the playoffs. I'll be honest. 1259 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: I came on the spot and I said, they're gonna 1260 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs. Like a lot of people, a lot 1261 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 1: of people thought Russell Wilson was going to come bring 1262 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 1: that another championship to Dewn. That's why you have bold predictions. 1263 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes you hit him, sometimes you don't, and and it's hard. 1264 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: So at the time I was stoked. I'm like, dude 1265 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 1: being and being Denver and being a broncoly dope. So 1266 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,919 Speaker 1: I go there, have a great workout, Like I said, 1267 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 1: my former coaches are there, have a great workout. At 1268 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: the time said hey you are. They told me you're 1269 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: you're our guy. If we need you. We're gonna give 1270 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: this guy some more time to to get things improved on. 1271 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: But you're our guy if we need a guy, So 1272 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm not cool. So I left. They're feeling really good 1273 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 1: about what what happened took place there in Denver. So 1274 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: the season starts, I go, I go to l A 1275 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 1: for I get brought in, oh what to Seattle, to 1276 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 1: Seattle for a workout. That's what's even crazier is because 1277 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: my first my first team in the NFL of Seattle, 1278 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll was his first year. So I when 1279 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: I had my workout, Pete Carroll came out on the field. 1280 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: That was where I was like, God, if this is 1281 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 1: the way you want my career to end up? Like 1282 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: ending my my ye full circle because when Pete Carroll 1283 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: came out on the field, same GM, same head coach 1284 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: from two thousand two, was one with there as a rookie. 1285 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll comes out and said when we're here. I 1286 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: was like, brother, it's been twelve years. You guys are 1287 01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 1: both out on the field and you with your canes 1288 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 1: we both had we both had our air Monarchs on. 1289 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: But anyway, it was pretty surreal the fact that like 1290 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: when I got cut there in two thousand and ten, 1291 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I was like dude, there's no way I would ever 1292 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: get another opportunity here in twelve years. Twelve years later, 1293 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: with the same regime, same regime. It was cool and 1294 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I had a great workout. They ended up signing the 1295 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 1: other guy that was there. I was. I was like, hey, 1296 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: that's like because they needed a guy. The guy got 1297 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 1: hurt and that was That was the last week of 1298 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: preseason leading into Week one, and so I was I 1299 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: was upset about that one, but I said, you know what, 1300 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe my do I'm not supposed to be here. 1301 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: God has a different plan. And so I went to 1302 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 1: l A after after my workout in uh Seattle, my 1303 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 1: coach from the Rams called me and said, hey, howd 1304 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 1: the workout go? Would you do great? Uh, you're in 1305 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,479 Speaker 1: great shape. We may put you on peace squad because 1306 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: our guys got a little nagging injury. And so two 1307 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: weeks later they brought me up for for um peace squad. 1308 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: But that was really good. Even though I knew I 1309 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 1: wasn't playing, that was still really good for my stock 1310 01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 1: as a free agent because now I'm technically on an 1311 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 1: NFL team and I'm the next guy up if if 1312 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: a team needs a dude I'm instead of them just 1313 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: searching for the couches. I'mm there. I mean, I'm on 1314 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: a team. So then two weeks later I get that 1315 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: call and I go and and have my workout. But 1316 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: the crazy thing about the Denver situation is um their 1317 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 1: guy end up getting hurt. He broke his hand or something. 1318 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: So Denver comes calling the Cowboys in my agent saying, 1319 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: because I was on, I was on. I was on 1320 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: practice squad in Dallas. We got him already. Man, So 1321 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: you're on practice squad. They can sign you off the 1322 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 1: practice squad exactly, but they would have they would have 1323 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: to activate me. So the way that it worked out 1324 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,920 Speaker 1: in Dallas was they kept me on practice squad for 1325 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: like four weeks. They would elevate me to the game. 1326 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: After the game, they would put me back down because 1327 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 1: they shuffle the roster that way sometimes. So for me, 1328 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: that's to protect players, tech players, and and just if 1329 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 1: they need more old lineman or they need another receiver. 1330 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 1: That that's how they bumped guys up, even knowing that 1331 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: I would play. So Denver came the second week I 1332 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 1: was there in um In in Dallas, They're like, hey, 1333 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: we we need you. I can't man. So my agent 1334 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, listen, we got a deal 1335 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 1: on the table right now from the Cowboys. They want 1336 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: to give you a signing bonus to come over to Denver, 1337 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a signing bonus from Denver. And now I'm not now 1338 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: long snappers usually don't get signing I would know what 1339 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 1: they do, but this, for this unique situation, it was 1340 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 1: kind of imprecedented. Like holy ship. They wanted, they wanted, 1341 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: they wanted me. So it kind of turned down to that. 1342 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 1: So I had to really think about, like, hey, do 1343 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: I go. Do I go to Denver and take that 1344 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 1: opportunity there, or do I just stay here at Dallas. 1345 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, dude, I'm not. At the time, 1346 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, Denver was already losing. They're already like one 1347 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: in four, you know, Dallas was rolling. Oh you don't 1348 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 1: want to jump on a sinking ship. So it was 1349 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 1: very clear and and I had no hesitation turning that 1350 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 1: the offer down. But it was pretty crazy to think 1351 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 1: that here I am faced with some opportunities here where Denver. 1352 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 1: Denver came to us with the signing bonus that we 1353 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 1: want you. Bro. Here's the signing bonus will get you 1354 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: back to Denver. You're playing for sure, you know, and um, 1355 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 1: but I'm like, dude, my opportunity here is is pretty 1356 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 1: special here in Dallas, and we didn't want him and 1357 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: I didn't want my family to have to That's awesome, 1358 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: you know. So that was a cool little Denver thing. 1359 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 1: That was the Denver story. Now I wish you would 1360 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,160 Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowls. You could have been like, 1361 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm with it. You guys wanted this. That's awesome, but 1362 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 1: thank you. But but thank god I didn't go to 1363 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Denver because it's the way it turned out was. It 1364 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: would have been a toxic. Remember have you ever been 1365 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:45,919 Speaker 1: on a team where it just you just lose all season? Mhm, dude, 1366 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 1: he's a good luck charm of the NFL. But I'm 1367 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 1: just saying Jacksonville kind of. So I was there in 1368 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 1: sen I was there. We went to the FC Championship 1369 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: and then the next year we were rolling. We beat 1370 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 1: New England earlier in the year, and then we just 1371 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,959 Speaker 1: slowly fell off and that's when Nate Hackett got fired 1372 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 1: as our o C. So I've been on it. That 1373 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 1: was probably the only team that we're like, you know, 1374 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 1: but you've never been on the bottom feeder like the 1375 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. You know, my worst season, I think my 1376 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: worst season in Indy and this is a bad season 1377 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 1: and he was eight and eight, just just just missing 1378 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:25,559 Speaker 1: the playoffs by Yeah, and I think Jacksonville we only 1379 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 1: won six that thateen year, I think we only won 1380 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 1: six games. So yeah, I've been I really haven't been 1381 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 1: on a team where, like, you know, you're out of contention. 1382 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: Like after week five, does every team going into training camp, 1383 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 1: do they really believe they can win the Super Bowl? No, 1384 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: there's no chance. You don't have a quarterback. You're not 1385 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna win because everybody. Why that's why these bold predictions 1386 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 1: like oh my gosh, the New York Jets are four, 1387 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,879 Speaker 1: and oh yeah, but they're beating They beat the Carolina 1388 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 1: Panthers and they beat the whoever, like they don't they 1389 01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 1: didn't beat nobody, and they think, who oh my tua, 1390 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 1: we're five, and oh towah, oh that's the team to 1391 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 1: beat the coach they just beat I don't know. They 1392 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: beat the Browns and they I don't know. They didn't 1393 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 1: beat nobody, you know. And then that's why these it's 1394 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 1: just crazy how the NFL works. That's the hype. Yeah, 1395 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 1: well it's a week week league. It's a week dew 1396 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,919 Speaker 1: week league. Like last week. Everybody jumped on the Bengals 1397 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 1: got all over their nuts and the chief said, it's 1398 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 1: a week tweek league. This is our weekd No, no that. 1399 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 1: What they said is we have Patrick freaking Mahomes. He's 1400 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 1: a fucking magician. He's unbelievable. And everything runs through arrowhead. 1401 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: What they said, I mean nothing, It doesn't run through Burrowhead, 1402 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 1: runs through Arrowhead. But just respect on his name. It's 1403 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: so unbelievable. He's very good, he's unbelievable. He's just I 1404 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I can't explain it. I don't I don't 1405 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,719 Speaker 1: have words. It's he's unbelievable. Yeah, I would have to agree, 1406 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 1: it's just crazy. He made a couple of bad passes. No, no, 1407 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 1: I understand that. But he's unbelievable. The things he's able 1408 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 1: to do that no other quarterback can. And I think 1409 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,720 Speaker 1: the vision he has, the and this he has um 1410 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 1: is elite. I mean him taking off turn the corner 1411 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 1: to last play the game, that's what won them the game. 1412 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: Any other quarterback right there, I mean his his his 1413 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 1: his IQ, but his his athletic ability isn't quite up. 1414 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't jump out of the it doesn't it doesn't 1415 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 1: jump out. I mean he's a little it's a little elusive. Yeah, um, 1416 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,640 Speaker 1: but just I mean, if that penalty never happened, he 1417 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,080 Speaker 1: wasn't hit late, we wouldn't be talking about would have 1418 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 1: been overtime all kind of stuff. And but he he Yeah, 1419 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,320 Speaker 1: you can't. It's like ten years ago. You can't ever 1420 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 1: bet on Ben against Tom Brady. Yeah, you can't bet 1421 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 1: against my home Brady. Is he in or out of 1422 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 1: the NFL? He's in. He's not going to go out 1423 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 1: that way? What And you know my boys back home 1424 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: in one in San Francisco. And I'm like, listen, I 1425 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 1: get what you're saying. I think the fairytale story is cool. 1426 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 1: He gets to go back home, play for his hometown team, 1427 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,559 Speaker 1: take him to the promised Land. But I don't think 1428 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 1: he's the answer to get you over to you have 1429 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna pay twenty million dollars to Tom 1430 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 1: Brady who may or may not have anything left get you. Well, 1431 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 1: we just played him in the playoffs and he looked awful. 1432 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 1: He looked terrible. Now, all we did you guys know 1433 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,720 Speaker 1: we're going to freaking demolish them. Yeah, because well, the 1434 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 1: way the seeding worked out, we knew we were going 1435 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 1: to play. We knew we were gonna play a Tampa 1436 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,320 Speaker 1: pretty I mean we knew like pretty soon, well before 1437 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs even came. That. Did you gotta start preparing 1438 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 1: for Tampa early? No? I mean not like even before 1439 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,720 Speaker 1: the Washington game, because you guys looked like shipping against Washington. Yeah, 1440 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: we start, we start kind of introducing some things because 1441 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: that game is really mean, it's not gonna move. You know, 1442 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna win, and they're gonna win the 1443 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 1: well they only No, I take that back because if 1444 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 1: we would have won that game in the Giants beat 1445 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,639 Speaker 1: the Eagles and then we would have got the one seed. 1446 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 1: But if we would also we would have got a 1447 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,560 Speaker 1: home we would have won our division. So that that 1448 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 1: game did have massive implication. But the chances of us 1449 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,600 Speaker 1: playing Tampa in the wild card was like it was 1450 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,600 Speaker 1: like chance. So we had a good idea leading. I 1451 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,880 Speaker 1: mean it was weeks where we were the fourth or 1452 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 1: five seeds and we weren't moving, So I think we 1453 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 1: had a really good idea, like, hey, if it's not Tampa. 1454 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 1: It's going to be this, but it's most likely Tampa. 1455 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: We're back to Brady. Wait, wait, let's take a break 1456 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 1: and we'll go back to Brady. I know Ray is like, God, 1457 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 1: this is so long, but we're gonna take one coach. 1458 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm on once a year. We're gonna take a break 1459 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,799 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back and we're gonna talk about Brady. 1460 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Dude when big shows chilling. My life is easy, dude, 1461 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 1: all right, I'm living the good life right now, Tom Brady, 1462 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 1: Tell what do you what we're gonna say? I wouldn't 1463 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 1: want I'm okay. I come from where I'm from Nation right, 1464 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: everyone wants it's again. It's like you said a week 1465 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 1: to week league. Now everyone wants Tom Brady to go 1466 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,559 Speaker 1: to the Oakland, to the Raiders or two the nine. 1467 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 1: Now they wanted the Niners, where the conversation was never 1468 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,640 Speaker 1: even there until party got hurt. Much is the fascinating, 1469 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 1: fascinating off season for the Niners because parties hurt. Trey 1470 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Lance is recovering for injury, and I think if if 1471 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 1: the Niners would have won last week, Shanahan should have 1472 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 1: been Player Coach of the Year. No question, no question, no, no, 1473 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,200 Speaker 1: he should be Coach of the Year already. I know that. 1474 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I know what Dabele did was amazing. I still put 1475 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,760 Speaker 1: I still put um the Jaguars coach before New York. 1476 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 1: I still put um Doug Peterson Pearson, I put him 1477 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: up there. I would have to say I would put 1478 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,960 Speaker 1: Sirianni up there before Dable. Here's the problem with Syrianni. 1479 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 1: The Eagles were expected to be good. They were expected 1480 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 1: to be put that good the year before, right, but 1481 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,680 Speaker 1: they signed they got a J. Brown. I don't think 1482 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 1: they expected Jasen Hurts to jump off the page like 1483 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 1: he did this year. I just think what Shanahan did 1484 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,840 Speaker 1: with a third string quarterback coach of the year. Because 1485 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: most people with a third string quarterback, it's over. You 1486 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 1: just fold up, back up in the backup most backup, yeah, 1487 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 1: and they usually it's just over, like the game is over, 1488 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 1: the season's over. They were able to get better with 1489 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,960 Speaker 1: a third string quarterback, and that speaks volumes of Shanahan, 1490 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 1: and to me, that is coach of the Year. I'm 1491 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,560 Speaker 1: not gonna argue that coach. I'm not gonna because I 1492 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 1: look at the Eagles. They remained pretty much healthy they had. 1493 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: They didn't have many health issues on offense for a 1494 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 1: few games the very end. Yeah, but again and they 1495 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 1: were all in two Yeah those games. Tom Brady odds. 1496 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Who's the favorite for who Tom Brady's going to Vegas 1497 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 1: or Niners right or nailed it to Vegas is number 1498 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 1: one because at one and a half your money and 1499 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 1: then Niners right behind. The Niner thing is interesting because again, 1500 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,680 Speaker 1: all the the text are the last night was like, oh, 1501 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,679 Speaker 1: we need Brady, we need Brad. I'm like, listen, guys, 1502 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: you don't need a break. Are you serious? You don't 1503 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 1: need you don't need Brady. Why why spend twenty million 1504 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 1: dollars on a quarterback when you're paying Brock I know 1505 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 1: he has his injury and we don't know how long 1506 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 1: you're playing Brock party like two dollars. Yes, it's like 1507 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 1: that compared to yes and so then and in Trey 1508 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Lance is like eight million. So you have your two 1509 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks for less than ten million dollars. You can have 1510 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 1: a roster full of studs when you're not spend any 1511 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: money in your quarterback. And it goes back to the 1512 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 1: point where these teams are trying to capitalize on winning 1513 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,640 Speaker 1: on rookie deals, right, is Brock pretty the answer? No, 1514 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,680 Speaker 1: But I think he proved that he can with six 1515 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,040 Speaker 1: and one or seven and one as a starter, seven 1516 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: or eight in one with like his touch on the 1517 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:53,759 Speaker 1: turnover ratio was fourteen touchdowns two interceptions was crazy season. 1518 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 1: You have a number one defense, you have George Kittle, 1519 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 1: you have Debot, you have a you have a stud 1520 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,240 Speaker 1: offensive line, you check, you have juice. Yeah, you have 1521 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,759 Speaker 1: a freaking little Swiss army knife that can do everything. 1522 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 1: You potentially could trade away Trey if you think Trey 1523 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,200 Speaker 1: is not gonna do, You're not gonna t You're not 1524 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,880 Speaker 1: going to You're not because you've already to have a 1525 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Correct. But I mean you could do a 1526 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,679 Speaker 1: deal with somebody I don't know, or draft another quarterback. 1527 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 1: But I feel like you're in a better position as 1528 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 1: an organization for the long haul with Trey and Brock 1529 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,960 Speaker 1: Purdy because Tray Lance is only two weeks. I can't 1530 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,760 Speaker 1: believe you want to give up on Trey Land at 1531 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 1: twenty two years old without letting him try to develop. 1532 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 1: Just imagine if you would get up on Jalen Hurts 1533 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,120 Speaker 1: after year one. Yeah, and you didn't do very well, 1534 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 1: so too didn't do it very well. Well two is dead. 1535 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 1: My point is he didn't do very well the year 1536 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,719 Speaker 1: before and this year, if you would have been healthy, 1537 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 1: would have had a stellar career compared to the year before. 1538 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:55,280 Speaker 1: To has to retire probably does I mean the way that, Yeah, 1539 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty scary. The fact that he's had 1540 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: many concussion And here's my thing. When Ta has had 1541 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:06,880 Speaker 1: his concussions, they aren't hard hits. He just kind of 1542 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,240 Speaker 1: he's just prone to him How he should have never 1543 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 1: been He should have never been playing on that Thursday night. 1544 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 1: I agree, but it's just like little tosses should have 1545 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: never been. Yeah, he but he should never been playing 1546 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 1: the game the week two hit he took out home 1547 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 1: where he clearly was stumbling. And that doctor should be fired. Yes, 1548 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 1: And I just think I think the doll. I don't 1549 01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 1: know what the Dolphins are gonna do. Well, They're probably 1550 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: gonna go after Tom Brady too. Why is everybody? Why 1551 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 1: does no one like Derek Carr because he hasn't won anything. 1552 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,920 Speaker 1: He's been on the Raiders, he's been on a doctor. 1553 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 1: The allure of Tom Brady, that's that's the fairy tale 1554 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 1: everybody who wants the goat to come in, salvage a season, 1555 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 1: get him to the promised Land like he did in Tampa. 1556 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 1: But listen, guys, he's forty six fucking years old, which 1557 01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm not arguing. And he looked like a skeleton. That's 1558 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,160 Speaker 1: what the media makes people. It plays with people's mind, right, 1559 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 1: they still believe that Tom Brady's elite. Did you watch 1560 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,679 Speaker 1: him this year? And I understand they had no offensive line, 1561 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 1: they had offensive line issues, which he could still throw 1562 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,600 Speaker 1: the rock rhymes. He had five thousand yards passing. I 1563 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 1: understand magic in the fourth quarter, and uh, he did 1564 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 1: actually miss some receivers pretty badly that he had no 1565 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 1: offensive line, So maybe maybe I'm underselling how good he 1566 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,360 Speaker 1: still divorce he lost fifteen pounds, he did. He looks 1567 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 1: like a skeleton the divorce, I think maybe going. I 1568 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,479 Speaker 1: think it's the tiger Wood syndrome. When when the when 1569 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 1: when you become invincible is when the when woman leaves you. 1570 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, ship, Like, I'm not invincible. I don't 1571 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,640 Speaker 1: rule the world, I don't walk on water. And you 1572 01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,760 Speaker 1: things crumble, your game crumbles, sex ruins your game. So 1573 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 1: to my point, I think it sets the organization back 1574 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 1: if they go the Tom Brady route, not give the 1575 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to Tray or brock Pretty. Because Trey is still 1576 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,599 Speaker 1: I think he's very promising. Obviously, you wouldn't draft him 1577 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 1: in the first round if he didn't think so. I 1578 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 1: think his natural ability, that the gifts he has athletically 1579 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 1: are surpass what brock Pretty can do. But brock Pretty 1580 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,600 Speaker 1: obviously just proved to everybody that you don't need to 1581 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,200 Speaker 1: be a razzle dazzle quarterback to win games. Have the 1582 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,680 Speaker 1: number one defense with a running game and a good 1583 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 1: offensive line. That's the thing about the Niners. The quarterback 1584 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 1: does the Niners. The quarterback doesn't have to do too 1585 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 1: much because they have an elite in the fan and 1586 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 1: the fan base is already calling for Tom Brady to 1587 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: come take him to the Promised Land because they think 1588 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback is the issue. It's not. It's not. It's 1589 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,640 Speaker 1: just injury. They got injured. They they've been in the 1590 01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 1: NFC Championship two years in a row, well four out 1591 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 1: of five years. They are so freaking good. They just 1592 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 1: need to stay healthy a little bit. They they've had 1593 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,960 Speaker 1: bad luck. It happens. They had a double digit lead 1594 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,320 Speaker 1: against the Rams last year. They should have beaten the 1595 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs in the Super Bowl of Garoppolo hits Um Emmanuel Santon. 1596 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if the Niners win with 1597 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Brock pretty healthy all last week, but it would have 1598 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 1: been competitive. It would have been a hell of a 1599 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 1: lot better game because it's not like Jalen Hurds was 1600 01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 1: lightening up the deepense. That's what I predict. No, No, 1601 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying watching the game, like number one defense 1602 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,000 Speaker 1: gives you a chance every week. Now that's Eagles fans 1603 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 1: were on, oh my god, let you fucking idiot, Like 1604 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 1: I told you, Jalen Hurds, We're gonna run dominate. And 1605 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, Jalen Hurts had a hundred and two 1606 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,840 Speaker 1: yards passing. It's not like he was on fire. Well, 1607 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna get exposed in the Super Bowl. Early line 1608 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 1: already said Chiefs by seven. Well, I I think the 1609 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:28,400 Speaker 1: Chiefs defense is not as good. I mean, obviously you 1610 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:29,560 Speaker 1: got to give it to him, but I would like 1611 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 1: to see Kelsey back spasm. He's gonna get up there. 1612 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:38,479 Speaker 1: Are you ready to rock job? Browny? He's funny. I mean, 1613 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 1: you couldn't have a drum. You couldn't have brought up 1614 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: another funnier thing to say. So where does where does 1615 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 1: Derek Carr go? Then? Like? What what word New York Jets? 1616 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, where's ers? Here's here's Aaron Rodgers to the trash? 1617 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 1: What what? Good? God? Who would want him on their team? 1618 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,720 Speaker 1: I think I don't. I don't agree with No one 1619 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 1: seems to like him. No, none of his team mates 1620 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,599 Speaker 1: seem to like him. Like when all the teammates leave, 1621 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,160 Speaker 1: no one comes out and says, oh, he was such 1622 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 1: a great teammates, such a great newde love playing with him. 1623 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 1: I never hear good things. Bob went back for a reason, 1624 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 1: got him. Jordy Nelson would have went back if you 1625 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,640 Speaker 1: could have had a chance to go back. Got him 1626 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,000 Speaker 1: with facts, coach, I mean all these there's a lot 1627 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,719 Speaker 1: of players that will vouch for Aaron Rodgers. James Jones, 1628 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,840 Speaker 1: who's on NFL Network, was like, dude, like, Aaron Rodgers 1629 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 1: makes subpar receivers, pretty good. His family not so much. 1630 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,439 Speaker 1: They didn't go back for anymore. Now what Gronk said, 1631 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 1: the Gronk comments about Aaron Rodgers, See that's I kind 1632 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,479 Speaker 1: of maybe agree with a little bit. He's worried about 1633 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 1: m vps. Who gives Aaron Rodgers should have three Super 1634 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Bowl rings? He should at least And what happened That 1635 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 1: caliber of his of his plays is elite. Here's the problem. 1636 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,000 Speaker 1: He's he's the least the regular season when he plays 1637 01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 1: against the Bears in the Lion. This is this is 1638 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,519 Speaker 1: what I said about when you when you compare Tom 1639 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 1: Brady to Aaron Rodgers, and I would love to play 1640 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,560 Speaker 1: with with either of them. But Aaron Rodgers doesn't have 1641 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:12,280 Speaker 1: that dog. And I'm like Tom Brady does, no, I don't. 1642 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,680 Speaker 1: When it gets tough, he's just like he doesn't have it. 1643 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't. He doesn't have to like, I don't think 1644 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,439 Speaker 1: he doesn't have it. He just says he doesn't tap 1645 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,160 Speaker 1: into it. He doesn't. It's like off that vibe that 1646 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 1: he really wants to run through brick wall for his team. 1647 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. When when I really believe last 1648 01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 1: year against the Niners, when they went down the field 1649 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,360 Speaker 1: and scored seven the opening drive seven nothing and lambeau 1650 01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,840 Speaker 1: Field and number one seed, and then they started getting 1651 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,439 Speaker 1: hit in the mouth, and he was like, this man, 1652 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 1: this thing is too physical. I don't want to play 1653 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,720 Speaker 1: with I'm scared. Maybe that's just the culture of the 1654 01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. It might be, and I think that 1655 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 1: has a little I mean, it's amazing. They had Brett 1656 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,960 Speaker 1: Farven Aaron Rodgers, and they've won two Super Bowls. They've 1657 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 1: had two franchise quarterbacks for thirty years. They've learned one twice. 1658 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 1: That to Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. But Andrew Andrew Luck, 1659 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 1: I I I watched that because he left early, they 1660 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,559 Speaker 1: were on the verse. Still had an elite quarterback for years, right, 1661 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 1: But Andrew Luck was only there like six he was 1662 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,600 Speaker 1: on he was on the verge. I was there with that. 1663 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,120 Speaker 1: You know. That's what I'm saying. You were on the 1664 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:23,599 Speaker 1: verge of it. Just he left early through the franchise 1665 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:28,719 Speaker 1: back ten years, good good, good, good words. It's just interesting. 1666 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,920 Speaker 1: It's an interesting to see how when you say when 1667 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,080 Speaker 1: you bring Derek Carr, I mean, Derek Carr is going 1668 01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 1: to be a preacher. He's not in the NFL anymore. 1669 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 1: Derek carrses he's he's he's a good quarterback. He's going 1670 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 1: to be a Las Vegas preacher next year. I guarantee it. 1671 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,760 Speaker 1: He's gonna be at the Elvis Chop. He's already talking 1672 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,880 Speaker 1: at churches, and he's really good at doing that. Very 1673 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,960 Speaker 1: no what he did when the Raiders were in turmoil 1674 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 1: and stood up. Yeah, but coach Good, I've played. I mean, 1675 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 1: I know you've played with people I didn't know, but 1676 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,200 Speaker 1: I played against him. And when you and I don't 1677 01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,920 Speaker 1: know nothing about quarterback skills, I just see what I 1678 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 1: see when I see Herbert throw a ball, or Herbert 1679 01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Herbert throws a ball. I mean, it is the most 1680 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: amazing thing different. It is so like it. I ride 1681 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,479 Speaker 1: Herbert's nuts because I think he I mean, but it 1682 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,479 Speaker 1: is different. But at the same time, I need to 1683 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,040 Speaker 1: get off Herbert a little bit and get on the Burrow, 1684 01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:26,000 Speaker 1: because no, Burrow is different. He's got the dog because 1685 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,559 Speaker 1: you want to talk about having the dog. Burrow has 1686 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 1: dog because he gets sacked every other freaking play because 1687 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 1: they have no offensive line two years in a row. 1688 01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 1: And Burrow doesn't get mad, he doesn't rip his chinz 1689 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:42,160 Speaker 1: trap off and pointing cigars. Aaron Rodgers he rips off 1690 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 1: his chin trap starts pointing people and yelling at people. 1691 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,719 Speaker 1: You know why, because it's never Aaron Rodgers is fault. 1692 01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,519 Speaker 1: He relaxed, and this is what he does. Aaron Rodgers 1693 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,680 Speaker 1: is all about look at me, motherfucker, look at me. 1694 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,000 Speaker 1: You know what he does. He goes, he goes on 1695 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,720 Speaker 1: Ayawaska trips and he and he says, Oh, I don't 1696 01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,680 Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna play, I'll let you know. And 1697 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 1: next week, Oh, you know what I mean, I'm still 1698 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,600 Speaker 1: thinking about. He likes to hold the packers hostage, and 1699 01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,599 Speaker 1: he likes everybody talking about him. Good for him, though 1700 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:13,720 Speaker 1: there's no him. But what I'm saying it, no, not 1701 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,320 Speaker 1: because some of these teams, some of these the way 1702 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 1: that teams treat players. No, I get that. It's good 1703 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,600 Speaker 1: to see guys like that. But what I'm saying is 1704 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 1: by the balls sometimes. No. But what I'm saying is 1705 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 1: that's not what I want. I want the Tom Brady say. 1706 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,400 Speaker 1: I want the dog that is, I'm in it like 1707 01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm in And he's not committed. And I think I 1708 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,720 Speaker 1: think Derek Carr's a dog. I do. So you just 1709 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:40,439 Speaker 1: don't think he's good. No, he's clearly not. And I'm 1710 01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:50,320 Speaker 1: not here. Here's the thing. I love Herbert Coach. Okay, 1711 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,760 Speaker 1: Mike Williams and Keenan Allen didn't even play all year. 1712 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 1: And then and then we play in week eighteen and 1713 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,680 Speaker 1: he breaks his back, Like what the funk were we 1714 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,280 Speaker 1: listen like what are we doing? Utina? What I do know? 1715 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,559 Speaker 1: I have a bias HEREI because I play with her Relash, 1716 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,840 Speaker 1: I love her. But listen to me. The when you 1717 01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 1: tear out these these quarterbacks and you're talking about Brady 1718 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,280 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers and Burrow and Josh Allen and Mahomes, 1719 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is overrated. He could throw the ball, but 1720 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the touch, he doesn't have learning. He's 1721 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna get there, but he's also he has to go 1722 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,679 Speaker 1: through elite quarterbacks to get to where he wants. Here's 1723 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 1: the problem. Here's when you throw Derek Carr in the conversation. 1724 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,360 Speaker 1: If I'm a GM, I'm not even thinking about Derek Carr. 1725 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,639 Speaker 1: If I have the option of Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, 1726 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,800 Speaker 1: these other it's just not It's even for six year 1727 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,320 Speaker 1: old Tom Brady coaches different. It's sports center names coach. 1728 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:46,840 Speaker 1: When you again, I know nothing about quarterbacks, don't know nothing. 1729 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 1: When that ball leaves a hand on a quarterback, you 1730 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,240 Speaker 1: can see it's coach. It's like it's like Randy Johnson 1731 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 1: throwing a fastball compared to somebody that can only throw eight. 1732 01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 1: It's Randy Johnson against Greg Maddox. I get different. I 1733 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 1: understand that, but I don't know. I don't know if 1734 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,920 Speaker 1: Derek Carr. I think an organization will be better off 1735 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 1: with that needs a quarterback. But when you look at 1736 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 1: production and winning, and Derek cars had some really good years. 1737 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 1: But I just don't I don't know if he really 1738 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,439 Speaker 1: is that guy that you really go out and, like 1739 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: I just say, you put in with a team that 1740 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,760 Speaker 1: actually has a good defense and a well run organization. 1741 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,840 Speaker 1: The Raiders are the way they way they treated a 1742 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:30,599 Speaker 1: guy who's been their guy through thick and thin, bro, 1743 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,680 Speaker 1: that tells me a lot about the organization. Well, that 1744 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,280 Speaker 1: that the place has been dysfunctional forever ever, and that's 1745 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,280 Speaker 1: why I know. That's why Brady is not going never 1746 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,920 Speaker 1: left Oakland. That's what you're right, and that's why Brady. 1747 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 1: I can't see Brady going to something run that bad. No, No, well, 1748 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,880 Speaker 1: I understand that. Josh McDaniels and the front of the guy. 1749 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: You know what, you know what Tom Brady did to Tampa. 1750 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,439 Speaker 1: He said if I'm going here. I'm I'm running the ship. 1751 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,280 Speaker 1: And that's how he got and he got arians he 1752 01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,600 Speaker 1: didn't he wasn't coming back. He's not going to go 1753 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,400 Speaker 1: somewhere where he doesn't have a say in almost anything. Yeah, 1754 01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,960 Speaker 1: play calls personnel. He's not a personal trainer, Yeah, massages, 1755 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 1: So he's not. He's not going to go somewhere that 1756 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:18,640 Speaker 1: he knows he's going to be handcuffed, you know. And 1757 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, his former coach, may given that leeway, but 1758 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,640 Speaker 1: you know the David that the owner may not be 1759 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 1: the guy that allows Tom Brady to come in and 1760 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:32,200 Speaker 1: because again you think Jerry Jones ever gonna let a 1761 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,759 Speaker 1: player outshot at him? No, no, no, no, no, okay. 1762 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,800 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's my point, like where I think 1763 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:43,719 Speaker 1: some of these owners will never relinquish control and hope 1764 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:48,040 Speaker 1: to win to one player. Now do you think the 1765 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:52,439 Speaker 1: Jets got Nathaniel Hackett hoping that will appeal to no? 1766 01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,200 Speaker 1: I No. I think Nathaniel Hackett is a really really 1767 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,880 Speaker 1: good coach, really good coach. Don't think he was our 1768 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,960 Speaker 1: all guy in Jacksonville who had Blake board coach. He 1769 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,759 Speaker 1: coached Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles took us to know a champions. 1770 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,920 Speaker 1: You can say Blake Portles is like their car. No, 1771 01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,320 Speaker 1: there are cars better than now he's he is that 1772 01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:17,040 Speaker 1: wise but very similar, very similar, similar player, I feel like, 1773 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 1: very very similar. I just watched on TV Coach. He's 1774 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:25,120 Speaker 1: around it, He's in the ending that. I think Hackett 1775 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:29,679 Speaker 1: is a very good coach who unfortunately went to an organization. Again. 1776 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened in Denver, but like maybe 1777 01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,720 Speaker 1: just that was just not the place for him to be. 1778 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,920 Speaker 1: What about but I don't know if that lure is 1779 01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,839 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers too. Yeah, mate, do you think the Broncos 1780 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,680 Speaker 1: hired Hackett thinking? Okay, that's good? I think I think 1781 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,400 Speaker 1: that was more of a likely scenario than the New 1782 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,600 Speaker 1: York Jets thing. But where did the New York Jets go? 1783 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 1: Because Zach Wilson's terrible coach? I have a lot of good, 1784 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,840 Speaker 1: good rookie cards of Zach Wilson, and I want on 1785 01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to succeed so that stock goes back. I mean, 1786 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:02,760 Speaker 1: so I hope they give Zac Wis a one more, 1787 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,640 Speaker 1: one more opportunity. Hey, that Patrick Mahomes card do you 1788 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,120 Speaker 1: retweeted do you have that? Or is that a card? Okay? 1789 01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:14,160 Speaker 1: Does that work thousands? Yes? Yeah, at least. Yeah. You're 1790 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 1: you're big into the card collecting, and I've never understood 1791 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 1: you put it on Twitter. We're gonna talk about it 1792 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:23,840 Speaker 1: after this break, right, Why tell me you need you 1793 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,479 Speaker 1: gotta explain the card business to me. You gotta explain 1794 01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,560 Speaker 1: it to me because I used to collect cards, and 1795 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 1: they're worth fifty dollars, and I know that they overproduced 1796 01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 1: them when we were kids, and so they're worth nothing. 1797 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:35,560 Speaker 1: So what is it now? Yeah? And I was the 1798 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,240 Speaker 1: same as a kid. I collected all all sports cards 1799 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:42,200 Speaker 1: upper deck, you know, all those the iconic Griffy Junior 1800 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Rookie card, all that kind of stuff. So back in 1801 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 1: the nineties and eighties, you know, these cards were mass produced, 1802 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 1: but no one knew to the extent of how many 1803 01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:56,439 Speaker 1: of these were printed. So every the iconic Griffy card. 1804 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,599 Speaker 1: We're going to use this in his in his as 1805 01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,280 Speaker 1: an example because this is where kind of the hobby 1806 01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,680 Speaker 1: itself took a turn, where now a card that is 1807 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 1: worth thousands of dollars is worth maybe a couple of 1808 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:13,040 Speaker 1: dollars because of the fact that there's millions of them printed, 1809 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,760 Speaker 1: but back in the nineties, there was no no one 1810 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,840 Speaker 1: knew the extent of how many you know, of these 1811 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,679 Speaker 1: cards were out there because you would get the backet 1812 01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,839 Speaker 1: and you look it up, Oh my god, and Beckett 1813 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:29,360 Speaker 1: and Beckett was setting the setting the comps. At the time, 1814 01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,240 Speaker 1: there was no eBay, there was no online sales, there 1815 01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:36,760 Speaker 1: was no the way to track transactions on cards. Fast 1816 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:41,040 Speaker 1: forward to COVID. COVID sped up the hobby like like 1817 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,800 Speaker 1: times a hundred because now people were going online and 1818 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,320 Speaker 1: buying up cards and some and that's when the hobby 1819 01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:51,920 Speaker 1: just exploded. So that's when like now all these Herbert 1820 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,800 Speaker 1: card because Herbert was a rookie. Brow was a rookie 1821 01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 1: obviously very very successful, but their stock skyrocketed because COVID 1822 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:07,400 Speaker 1: escalated everything like crazy product and certain players. That's when 1823 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,680 Speaker 1: I got into it. I got into So now you know, 1824 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,280 Speaker 1: there's limited amounts because now things are serial numbered, and 1825 01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,599 Speaker 1: there's there's different there's different types of prints where there's 1826 01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,439 Speaker 1: like a Bass card, which is like millions of them 1827 01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,800 Speaker 1: are printed. Then there's numbered cards and it's you know, 1828 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,200 Speaker 1: there's just there's there's now tears to where you know, like, 1829 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,680 Speaker 1: all right, if I have a one of ten, I 1830 01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 1: only know that ten of these are printed, all right. 1831 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,519 Speaker 1: And now there's there's there's there's good money. Yeah I have, 1832 01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,720 Speaker 1: I have, I have a pretty extensive collection. Now card 1833 01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,080 Speaker 1: training has changed so much. If a guy has a 1834 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 1: good game, Patrick mahomes going to the super Bowl his 1835 01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,840 Speaker 1: card exactly. So it's become like the stock marking that 1836 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,439 Speaker 1: we're kids that are literally I've been to card shows 1837 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,040 Speaker 1: where there are ten year old kids walking around with 1838 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,040 Speaker 1: a briefcase of maybe a hundred thousand dollars with the 1839 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,439 Speaker 1: cards and they just get those in packs. No maybe 1840 01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:56,880 Speaker 1: maybe maybe Daddy has given them some money to go. 1841 01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,559 Speaker 1: Can you get those expensive cards? If I go to Kmart? 1842 01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,760 Speaker 1: So there's there's now there again. Now there's levels of 1843 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:04,720 Speaker 1: things where you go to a retail store like a 1844 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,679 Speaker 1: Target of Walmart and you go buy these blaster boxes. 1845 01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,080 Speaker 1: The chances of hitting something big are very very slim 1846 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,760 Speaker 1: because you're only paying fifty bucks for that box. So 1847 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 1: there's there's mega boxes, there's blaster boxes, there's hobby boxes. 1848 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:22,600 Speaker 1: So hobby boxes are the expensive wax that chances of 1849 01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,200 Speaker 1: you hitting the big product is more likely not to 1850 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:27,840 Speaker 1: say you can't hit a big card in a in 1851 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 1: a little thing you buy at Walmart, because it happens. 1852 01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,559 Speaker 1: But they are available. So I can go to Walmart 1853 01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:37,840 Speaker 1: and buy a pack, and those are available in those packs. Um, 1854 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,880 Speaker 1: some speculate that they don't really belong in there, because 1855 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,200 Speaker 1: they're not gonna put the most expensive card in a 1856 01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,640 Speaker 1: pack that sells for six bucks when they should put 1857 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,120 Speaker 1: it in a box that's worth you know some of 1858 01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:58,479 Speaker 1: these boxes. Wait, wait, you bought a box for I haven't, 1859 01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,479 Speaker 1: but these are these are out there, Holy hill, you 1860 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now that the card game 1861 01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:08,760 Speaker 1: has changed, so now kids like are are when we're 1862 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, eight, Now they're collecting. Now they're making money 1863 01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,280 Speaker 1: off these things. They're becoming the young little entrepreneurs. And 1864 01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:18,719 Speaker 1: it's like a stock market. Last week, brock Pretty rookie card, 1865 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:20,840 Speaker 1: or let's talk about six months ago, no one even 1866 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,479 Speaker 1: knew who brock Pretty was. So there's people sitting on 1867 01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,080 Speaker 1: brock Pretty cards that were probably worth five dollars or less. 1868 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,519 Speaker 1: He becomes a starter. That five dollar card now becomes 1869 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,800 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. He wins a few games that fifty dollar 1870 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,919 Speaker 1: card now becomes five dollars. He goes to the NFC Championship, 1871 01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:40,479 Speaker 1: that card now becomes ten dollars. Now it goes back 1872 01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:44,000 Speaker 1: down stock marks, you ride the waves, so you should 1873 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:45,960 Speaker 1: have sold when he was in the NFC Championship, but 1874 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,439 Speaker 1: people were holding it because if you went to the 1875 01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:52,639 Speaker 1: super Bowl, now that card five x overnight. So it's coach, 1876 01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,760 Speaker 1: it's crazy. But all the stuff that we thought was 1877 01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,000 Speaker 1: valuable back in the nineties and eighties is really worth nothing. 1878 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,519 Speaker 1: It's it's not it's not so any of the people 1879 01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,240 Speaker 1: who say I have cards back in the attic, those 1880 01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:07,120 Speaker 1: are worthless unless you find you need to autographs Jersey, 1881 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,519 Speaker 1: unless you find some like Mickey Mantel cars. Now my 1882 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 1: dad has those. My dad has the Nolan Ryan Rookie 1883 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,200 Speaker 1: with him and it's Nolan Ryan and Jerry Kuzman. So 1884 01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,880 Speaker 1: and sure, I mean though I'm talking about like the 1885 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,160 Speaker 1: fifty fifty two tops cards. Oh, I mean I'm talking 1886 01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,080 Speaker 1: to my dad has cards from and we used to 1887 01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,439 Speaker 1: hang them on our wall, my cases and he put 1888 01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,360 Speaker 1: them on the wall. So those vintage cards could be 1889 01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,680 Speaker 1: worth some really good money. But like an upper deck, 1890 01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,799 Speaker 1: you know, Ken Griffe Jr. Card depending on its condition. 1891 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,840 Speaker 1: Now you have grading now, coach. So if I go 1892 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,320 Speaker 1: and I submit my car to grading and he gets 1893 01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,160 Speaker 1: a bad grade because there's a bent edge or there's 1894 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:42,680 Speaker 1: a crease or there's a but who do you do? 1895 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,719 Speaker 1: You have to send the card off and you trust 1896 01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,040 Speaker 1: that it's going to get back. Yeah, there's if it 1897 01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:50,800 Speaker 1: gets lost in the mail ship professional grading service. So 1898 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 1: you actually put a ten tho dollar card in the 1899 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,719 Speaker 1: mail on ship it off or you go with physically 1900 01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,000 Speaker 1: and drop it off. Yeah, oh my god, I mean yeah, 1901 01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,519 Speaker 1: there's risk to everything. And what do you do with 1902 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,479 Speaker 1: these cards? Do you just send him in a so 1903 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,640 Speaker 1: you can you can be someone who collects him, like 1904 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,320 Speaker 1: if I'm like right now my my personal collection, Like 1905 01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:10,840 Speaker 1: I love Mike Trout, shohyo tani my teammates who I 1906 01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 1: played with Jackson Holiday, Um oh yeah, Jackson Holiday. People 1907 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:19,560 Speaker 1: are starting to pull so because he's the he's not 1908 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:24,040 Speaker 1: even in the league. He's the future. So you Andrew 1909 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:28,040 Speaker 1: Jones kid, So speculation on these prospects, these are what 1910 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,479 Speaker 1: white people are now paying thousands of dollars for Jackson 1911 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,800 Speaker 1: Holiday because if he becomes the next Derek Jeter or 1912 01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,680 Speaker 1: Mike Trout. Then who knows what that card is worth, 1913 01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, ten years from now if he doesn't your coin. Yeah, 1914 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like no teeth Keith. When Heath Schuller 1915 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:45,120 Speaker 1: came out when he was coming out of college, he thought, 1916 01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,320 Speaker 1: oh kid, he's gonna be the next great quarterback and 1917 01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:52,760 Speaker 1: no teeth. Keith bought a bunch of Heath Schulers. Now 1918 01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:58,960 Speaker 1: Heath Schulers like in Congress or something. Yeah. But Rashaan 1919 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:00,640 Speaker 1: Salam was another one. Thought it was gonna be a 1920 01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:08,000 Speaker 1: stud Yeah, Ryan Leaf Ryan. But the I think what's 1921 01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,360 Speaker 1: cool now is a lot of guys player wise are 1922 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,559 Speaker 1: now signing a lot of stuff, and now they're becoming 1923 01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,479 Speaker 1: invested in the product. How do you take your your 1924 01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,800 Speaker 1: cards and say I don't have any cards. I don't 1925 01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like like Patty Mahomes and do 1926 01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:22,360 Speaker 1: you go, hey, can you sign this after the game? 1927 01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,439 Speaker 1: I've never done that. But they have to be signed 1928 01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,000 Speaker 1: cards that are already supposed to be signed. So the 1929 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,240 Speaker 1: signed cards, so if you hit it, if you hit 1930 01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,559 Speaker 1: an autograph card in a pack or a box, there's 1931 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,400 Speaker 1: a guarantee on the back saying like this is this 1932 01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,360 Speaker 1: autograph is authenticated by Panini or Upper Deck or whatever. 1933 01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:39,719 Speaker 1: This is authentic card. Now, if you have a card 1934 01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,040 Speaker 1: that's not autographed, but you go, you go to a 1935 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,680 Speaker 1: signing and this guy signs it, you can go get 1936 01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,800 Speaker 1: it graded and authenticated or not. Okay, you can do 1937 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,960 Speaker 1: that too. Do you ever ask for players autographs after 1938 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 1: the game? I've never done that now, but it's been, 1939 01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:56,360 Speaker 1: it's been, I've been. I've been. Uh really, I've been 1940 01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,200 Speaker 1: eager to do it because I have cards in my 1941 01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,120 Speaker 1: locker and I'm like, hey, there's Jake Fergus and a 1942 01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 1: Ricky Tight and I could have him signed his card. 1943 01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,240 Speaker 1: I have Jalen Toilbert, I have doc I have Yeah, 1944 01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,280 Speaker 1: I never, I never did it. I should have. No, 1945 01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,080 Speaker 1: it's okay, though, yeah, but I haven't. I haven't. I 1946 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,639 Speaker 1: have an invested interest in the hobby because of being 1947 01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,679 Speaker 1: a player, and now I collect out of Vinitary cards. 1948 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,840 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee cards, and he's venitary. Really that ripped that 1949 01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:20,640 Speaker 1: you see on the commercial he's jacked down and you 1950 01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,880 Speaker 1: go to Instagram he's he's jack Why is he doing that? 1951 01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,200 Speaker 1: Because he's fifty and he's retired and he can. Ok. Yeah, 1952 01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:28,800 Speaker 1: now before we go because I mean, we've been here 1953 01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,519 Speaker 1: a long time and I feel bad, but it's been awesome. 1954 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,640 Speaker 1: This has been the inside has been incredible. Speaking of 1955 01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,120 Speaker 1: which is it, I have a live I'm selling cards 1956 01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,000 Speaker 1: online here and let me change my time. Matt Overton, 1957 01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:44,760 Speaker 1: the future is what unknown got him unknown? So you 1958 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:49,800 Speaker 1: still want to play coach? What this is? What? Because 1959 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven, he's thirty seven years old. Players retire 1960 01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,640 Speaker 1: ray some people say, you know what that was? It? 1961 01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,479 Speaker 1: I had enough. I don't want to do it anymore. 1962 01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,559 Speaker 1: So I so I have been fortunate to be healthy 1963 01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,400 Speaker 1: and at thirty seven, I honestly, I'm not even kidding, 1964 01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,639 Speaker 1: and it comes a lot with my preparation and training, 1965 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,280 Speaker 1: all the kind of stuff and stay ready, never get ready, 1966 01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,519 Speaker 1: and ready shout I stay ready brand Matt Overton brand 1967 01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:20,080 Speaker 1: dot com, um com. I feel better at thirty seven 1968 01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:24,120 Speaker 1: going on thirty eight than I did at thirty Brady, No, 1969 01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,759 Speaker 1: I really do. I really do. I'm not even kidding, 1970 01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,360 Speaker 1: And that means you're doing your training better. So I'm 1971 01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:31,960 Speaker 1: more invested now in the way I approached the off 1972 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,599 Speaker 1: season and my training and all that stuff. Whereas before 1973 01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,800 Speaker 1: when I was younger, single, like my off season was 1974 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,760 Speaker 1: like a ledge of off season. We're like, yeah, I 1975 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,160 Speaker 1: I traveled, I I did what I wanted, and I 1976 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:47,920 Speaker 1: didn't start training until I had to. Now it's like 1977 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:51,040 Speaker 1: I recover. I'm you know, I'm I'm here because I 1978 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,080 Speaker 1: got family, kids, now wife, and we have our own routine, 1979 01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,120 Speaker 1: and so I take my off season approach a lot 1980 01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 1: seriously now because I'm I am a free agent. I 1981 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:04,719 Speaker 1: have to. I'm not only three, I'm not only thirty seven. 1982 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,840 Speaker 1: But when I see a coach, when I watch older guys, 1983 01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,960 Speaker 1: even younger guys on film, I say to myself, I 1984 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,320 Speaker 1: don't want to look like that, meaning I don't want 1985 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,840 Speaker 1: to jog down field. I don't want to be unathletic. 1986 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to be weak. I don't want to 1987 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:21,360 Speaker 1: have those glaring attributes as a player. When coaches and 1988 01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,479 Speaker 1: evaluators look at film like, thank he moved, he's thirty seven, 1989 01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,800 Speaker 1: he moves like that, that's pretty good. That's what I want. 1990 01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,880 Speaker 1: You want you want to stick out on tape? Yeah, 1991 01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:32,240 Speaker 1: in a good way. Don't want to be the bad 1992 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,920 Speaker 1: stick out now and not the same. There's there's there's 1993 01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,519 Speaker 1: plenty of things that I need to improve on. And 1994 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,519 Speaker 1: work on and I and I have that. But I've 1995 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,400 Speaker 1: always said people ask me every year and it's been 1996 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,840 Speaker 1: going this. Like I said, this is my fourth team 1997 01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 1: in four years. So I went from Indie Jacksonville Titans 1998 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,760 Speaker 1: charges to now Dallas and this year will be unknown. Um, 1999 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,360 Speaker 1: everyone asked me, you know, what are you gonna do? 2000 01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:59,240 Speaker 1: I always my answer is always, as long as I'm healthy, 2001 01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:00,920 Speaker 1: I have a passion to do it, and I know 2002 01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:02,240 Speaker 1: I can play at a high level of help a 2003 01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,360 Speaker 1: team win, I'm gonna play. So my goal is to 2004 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,880 Speaker 1: play us on forty because if I can play at forty, 2005 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,160 Speaker 1: not a lot of people can say they play the 2006 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,320 Speaker 1: NFL at forty. That's incredible, Matt Overton, thank you so much. 2007 01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,680 Speaker 1: It was incredible. That was so fun. We should do 2008 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:15,960 Speaker 1: this more often because I really enjoy hang out with 2009 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,640 Speaker 1: you guys, and hey, you're you live here now, so 2010 01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,280 Speaker 1: we'll do it again and do it again with him 2011 01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:22,080 Speaker 1: walking distance coach. Now, my question is do you always 2012 01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:23,439 Speaker 1: wish it's a fair catch you don't have to go 2013 01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,720 Speaker 1: down to tackle. No, I'm I'm gonna tooot my own 2014 01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,920 Speaker 1: my own horn, just a little bit a little humble brag, 2015 01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,000 Speaker 1: but I had the most tackles for long snappers this year. 2016 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about So to answer your question, I don't know. 2017 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:36,920 Speaker 1: I want to go down there and bang. I want 2018 01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,240 Speaker 1: to go make make a play. Okay, yeah, alright, guys, 2019 01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,160 Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. I hope you enjoyed that. Give us your feedback. 2020 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully you watch the or listen the whole way through. 2021 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:47,960 Speaker 1: All Right, you want to buzz out, you gotta buzzes 2022 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,360 Speaker 1: out dot com. No, you gotta like the buzzer, like 2023 01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:53,880 Speaker 1: the game's over coach. I played football. There is no 2024 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:58,439 Speaker 1: buzzer got him. Alright, that's a terrible tradition that needs 2025 01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:00,800 Speaker 1: to know. That's great. I hate thee Oh my god, 2026 01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:03,840 Speaker 1: Overton hated this. My kid did pretty good though, right 2027 01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,040 Speaker 1: he slept for most of it. Mm hmm