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Speaker 2: Well, Matt, it's getting hot out here, not just literally

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Speaker 2: but figuratively. We've got some uh some pushing and shoven

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Speaker 2: nothing crazy. After a couple team period reps Well.

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Speaker 3: The offense shouldn't be very happy with what they've done.

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Speaker 2: No, they should not, absolutely should be thrilled the defense

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Speaker 2: and a good open field move there by Kenneth Gainwell.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, that was nice to break and tackle, just

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Speaker 2: to kind of peel back the curtain of what happened

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Speaker 2: while we were during break team period. Offense trying to

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Speaker 2: run the ball, a couple of snaps in a row

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Speaker 2: going absolutely nowhere. TJ Watt blowing things up that whole

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Speaker 2: defensive front blowing things up Joey Porter Junior with two

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Speaker 2: big tackle, two big physical tackles yea. The first was

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Speaker 2: on Caleb Johnson, the second was on Kenneth Gainwell. And

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Speaker 2: then on the next rep uh Robert Woods doing some

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Speaker 2: pushback and and and some blocking on Joey Porter Junior.

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Speaker 2: And again just nothing, nothing crazy, just some you know,

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Speaker 2: just a little pushing and shoving. As again, I think

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Speaker 2: though you're starting to sense a little bit of that

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Speaker 2: frustration from the offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they should be.

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Speaker 4: I mean they're While we were at break, it looked

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Speaker 4: like all the ones versus one stuff happened.

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Speaker 3: Now they're under the twos.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I don't remember a successful play from the offense,

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Speaker 4: and there was only it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: One hundred of them, it was four or five, six

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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 4: There was a roll out that Rogers was looking for

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Speaker 4: John new off play action that they handled pretty well

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Speaker 4: and kind of made him uncomfortable. And as we've seen unpadded,

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Speaker 4: this defense is dominating pretty much. And you take it

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Speaker 4: two ways, you know what I mean. I think as

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Speaker 4: a chance, one of the best defense in the league,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's the best front in the league.

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Speaker 4: But you also got to worry about the offense too.

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Speaker 2: That you do. Absolutely as it is. The two's in

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Speaker 2: there now, Mason Rudolph under center, and he will fake

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Speaker 2: a handoff some confusion there between him and Trey Sermon

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Speaker 2: and they'll just kind of kind of blow that play dead.

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Speaker 4: It looked like Hayley was in the backfield and it

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Speaker 4: looked like.

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Speaker 2: Trace Sermon might have gone the wrong way or there

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Speaker 2: was I don't know if you saw he was kind

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Speaker 2: of asking for some help before the snatch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got peal and then there was communication issues.

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Speaker 3: Then the ligne didn't really block anybody.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, not so great, not so great. While it

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Speaker 4: was nice by Kaylee, it was not a guy we

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Speaker 4: brought up very much. But he's got a real good

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Speaker 4: chance to make this team.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, no, absolutely absolutely, you're a cornerback right now.

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Speaker 2: It looks like Corey Trice and Brandon eccles here out

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Speaker 2: here with the second tea. I take it. That's a

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty solid second bearing for your for your boundary.

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Speaker 3: Cos it's fourth and fifth corner.

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Speaker 2: As Will Howard checks in at quarterback, gives it to

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Speaker 2: his fellow Ohio State Buckeye there Trace Sermon, who was

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Speaker 2: able to run over Brandon Eckles for a nice.

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Speaker 3: Broke a tackle and made some yards on his own.

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Speaker 3: It was well done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be I'll be very interested to you know

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Speaker 2: see how that just running back pecking order continues this

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Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about guys that are like it's

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Speaker 4: that career crossroads.

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Speaker 3: Sermons another one.

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Speaker 4: Sermon and Hull really come out to me because they

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Speaker 4: were third and fourth round picks, respectively, big ten dudes.

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Speaker 4: Hull played at Northwestern, Sermon at Ohio State. Neither is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they they both had good collegiate career, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Their mid round picks. I mean they no one bad

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Speaker 4: and I when they went in the mid right, but

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Speaker 4: they are, which is a problem.

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Speaker 2: But Mark Robinson blowing up a play there.

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Speaker 3: He really did. He's had a good practice he has

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Speaker 3: and you forget about him.

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Speaker 2: But you know what athlete I was gonna say, in

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Speaker 2: the sense of the same way that like those first

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Speaker 2: four acclamation practices, we say, if you're an athleticism skill guy,

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Speaker 2: you better pop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when the pads go on here. If you're Mark

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Speaker 2: Robinson and you're the opposite, you're the bull in the

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Speaker 2: china shop, you better pop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he had. I mean again, we're one on

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Speaker 4: one backs on backer stuff. But he showed up in

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Speaker 4: a big way, and he's been around the block.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no more.

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Speaker 4: He's not a young guy anymore, you know he's not.

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Speaker 2: He's barking out some signals to It.

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Speaker 3: Makes you feel like you've won extra inside linebackers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, which is never a bad.

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Speaker 3: Thing, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if he shines, maybe you trade hulk them

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Speaker 2: Max Harlman in motion.

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Speaker 3: Now, maybe they should block Robinson one of these plays.

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Speaker 2: My goodness. I mean him and de Marvin Leonale blowing

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Speaker 2: yellow offensive and white defenses in yellow, and it's like

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Speaker 2: a swarm of yellow shirts every time they.

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Speaker 4: Look like there's thirteen guys out there right right, I

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Speaker 4: mean Robinson this time, that's not perfect attack the line

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Speaker 2: He's getting a lot of blew it up and then.

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Speaker 4: Came back and made the tackle out made the tackle

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Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson and Roger Jones giving him some props after

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Speaker 4: This has to be a great defense. But I'm worried

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Speaker 4: about the second line, and that is.

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Speaker 2: Like that's always the uh, the give and take back

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Speaker 2: and forth at this point, right, you look at the defense,

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Speaker 2: more veteran, more experienced, more money on that side of

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Speaker 2: the ball. Sure, so you want them to be that

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Speaker 2: you know, have a have making a little more ground.

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Speaker 4: Than the lead through the first few forty sixty eighty,

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Speaker 4: twenty sixty. And we do know that D line is loaded.

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Speaker 4: I mean we talked about guys like U K Lee.

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Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna be pros. They're gonna be There's

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Speaker 4: nine or ten defensive linemen on this team. They're gonna

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Speaker 4: be getting paychecks this year, no matter. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: where they'll all be. Most will be here, but not all.

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Speaker 4: And to the O linees credit. I'm not making excuses

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Speaker 4: for them. Continuity is very very key on that position,

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Speaker 4: where it isn't as much on D line. It's just

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Speaker 4: sick of them, you know, go be a veloci rapper.

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Speaker 3: You got a field.

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Speaker 4: So it's hard, especially this early in camp, for a

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Speaker 4: second line offensive line, a true backup, yeah, to have

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Speaker 4: any continuity whatsoever because how much do they really play together?

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Speaker 4: But that's kind of what you hope you gain without

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Speaker 4: pads On, is the timing and things like that. But

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Speaker 4: it's tough. But they're clearly lesser players than the guys

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Speaker 4: are trying to block right now too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you and I have talked about that, and

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Speaker 2: it's like it's playing out in front of us. Yep,

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Speaker 2: you don't.

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Speaker 3: It's not unexpected.

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Speaker 2: You don't feel like you have the depth. You don't

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Speaker 2: just forget feeling you don't have the depth that you

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Speaker 2: where it was uncanny a year we're now on the

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Speaker 2: defensive line. You've got eight, nine ten guys uneasily belong

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Speaker 2: on NFL rosters, a couple more who were kind of

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Speaker 4: Right right right, the louder Milk type guys too. But

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Speaker 4: you've been around the block and they've played snaps.

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Speaker 2: And they know how to win reps here in these

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Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer out there as well too, he was the one.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he did, but I didn't see him during

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Speaker 2: any of the backs on backer stuff. And again it's

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Speaker 2: it wasn't far away from yeah, but we could have

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Speaker 2: missed one but in the opposite corner. But he's he's

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Speaker 2: a guy who I want to see some more of

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Speaker 4: And you kind of said it without saying it though

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Speaker 4: they I don't think he played a snap of special

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna he's.

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Speaker 4: Not gonna run down maybe his freshman year, that's what

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, is maybe just to be on the

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's gonna be the fourth outside linebacker. He's

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Speaker 4: not gonna be ahead of Herbig. He's not gonna behad

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Speaker 2: What certainly to start the season.

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Speaker 3: And he's different than Herbig.

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Speaker 4: And I think a big reason they drafted him is

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Speaker 4: if you were to lose high Smith, or Watt. You

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Speaker 4: don't want her big be a full time player at

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Speaker 4: his size, yes, a great perfect Sawyer needs to be

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Speaker 4: the big body. Guys, why they traded for Preston Smith

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Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, you got to deal with

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Speaker 4: the Ravens. I don't want her big out there every

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Speaker 4: designated pass rusher. So more and more of that pick

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Speaker 4: has made sense to me. But where I'm going with

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Speaker 4: key for Sawyer to convince Danny Smith that he could

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Speaker 4: do the special team stuff because for him to be

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Speaker 4: active on game day, maybe you end up like Jeremiah Moon,

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Speaker 4: active on game day because your fourth outside linebacker has

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Speaker 2: And that was the problem I well, Matt so many

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Speaker 2: times last year and particularly down the stretch of the season,

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Speaker 2: when Preston Smith wasn't getting a helmet on game day

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Speaker 2: right being actives would come out.

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Speaker 4: He's never played teams, He's always been starters whole.

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Speaker 2: Right away, I'd have like three or four of my

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Speaker 2: buddies who would text me and be like, why the

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Speaker 2: trade this, Why the heck did they trade for president,

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Speaker 2: Why is he not getting a helme like guys like

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Speaker 2: I listen, if you want to talk about them trading

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Speaker 2: for him, that's a different conversation. But the reason he's

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Speaker 2: not getting a helmet today is because he doesn't play teams.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: They kept Trice active instead of him because he plays

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Speaker 2: Right, And as you mentioned, that is one of the

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Speaker 2: challenges of Dan I know you've talked about this many times, rightfully,

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Speaker 2: So that's the challenge for Danny Smith. Oh, like the.

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Speaker 4: Steel guys from them all the time and right, you know, if.

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Speaker 2: You're okay, So if you're if you're Denzel Martin, right,

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Speaker 3: Exactly what herbig is and right.

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Speaker 2: We are back in Latrobe. It's a hot one today,

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Speaker 2: Matt at the hottest Like it's it's always warm out here, right,

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Speaker 3: Or whatever isn't hard to do, which.

439
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,280
Speaker 2: Isn't hard to do, and you like hang your shirt

440
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,439
Speaker 2: up in your room and you got to put it

441
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,159
Speaker 2: on the next day, it's wetter than it was. Yeah,

442
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 2: you hung it up type thing, or.

443
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 4: If you reuse a towel like I'm just you know,

444
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,520
Speaker 4: hang it on the doorway or whatever.

445
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,919
Speaker 3: It's like this. I felt like it didn't dry.

446
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 2: One felt like you just dropped it in the pool,

447
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 2: is what is what it felt like. So yeah, still, uh,

448
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 2: still some team period stuff ongoing here in front of

449
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 2: us right now. Skyler Thompson in at quarterback a lot

450
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 2: of the threes. Yeah, I haven't seen a ton of him.

451
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a ton of Mark Robinson. Again, Who's

452
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 2: who's in the middle of everything right now.

453
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's showing up today.

454
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 2: That he's like the green dot guy if you will

455
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 2: right now, for for like the threes, Yeah, for the defense. Yeah,

456
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 2: Logan Lee out there as well too. He's another guy

457
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 2: that I want to try and focus on a little

458
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 2: bit this week.

459
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 4: I'm cautious optimistic about, like a lot of people have

460
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 4: talked about him lately, last six months or something nice

461
00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 4: back to shorter throw.

462
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Speaker 2: I think you're right, and he's another one of those

463
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 2: guys who's in that same conversation as a Roman Wilson,

464
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 2: as a Joy Falton, and you know what, Matt in

465
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 2: the all the different X factors and things of this season,

466
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 2: to watch what they get from the rookies who they

467
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,120
Speaker 2: barely got anything from last year I think is.

468
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 4: Large number under class, but almost.

469
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: Almost half of the class they got nothing or next

470
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 2: to nothing from. If those guys can hop on a

471
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 2: moving train, it's it's.

472
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 4: Almost like a one or two, well you have, right,

473
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 4: But then if if.

474
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 2: One of those guys ends up becoming a legit key

475
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: contributor this year, and then you get you know, you

476
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 2: get Derek Harmon hopefully as well too. Like there's there's

477
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 2: some real, some real opportunity to feel good about the

478
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: young nucleus that you've started to build.

479
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 4: Now you've mentioned it too, I just want to throw

480
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 4: this name out there too. I was really started getting

481
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 4: couraged this time last year with Ryan Watts. Yeah, I

482
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 4: thought there was a lot of ability there, and unfortunately

483
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 4: his career is over again. This is not the easiest

484
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 4: league in the world to stick around, and injuries derailed

485
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 4: him very quickly. But that's another one that's like I

486
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 4: ain't get anything out of as a rookie. And then

487
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 4: I thought, maybe he's going to be an impact guy

488
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 4: this year.

489
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 2: They're gonna switch sides of the field here and the

490
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 2: ones checking back in for the offense. Here comes Aaron

491
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 2: Rodgers at the fifty yard line. Let's see, uh, let's

492
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 2: see if the first team offense can maybe do anything,

493
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: can fight back youah, or even just do anything. As

494
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: Ben Scronick has in motion the handoff that Jalen Moore

495
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: in nice run there as he's able to get to

496
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Speaker 2: the second level.

497
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Speaker 4: There was actually a hole there was there was There.

498
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 2: Was definitely definitely a hole there. As Troy FOULTONU was

499
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: was was moving some bodies on that one. You'd like

500
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: to see that.

501
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 3: You mentioned Scarnic too.

502
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 4: I mean he is a good blocker, he's a capable

503
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 4: at offensive player. Maybe you throw him in there to

504
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 4: add a little physicality for a player too. He's trotting

505
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 4: off now, but you know that's how they use him

506
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 4: in game day two. Yeah, you still want to be

507
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 4: too much of a tell. You don't want him to

508
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 4: come in the game and.

509
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: Like correct, whenever whenever you know, Connor Hayward comes in,

510
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 2: we know what's what's happening.

511
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to be concerned with that stuff. Like

512
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 4: last year, pull pickings off on a lot of running plays. Well,

513
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 4: people cut because he wasn't blocking anybody, you know, catch

514
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: on to that stuff.

515
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: Metcalfe and Room and Wilson split out wide. Pat Fryarmouth

516
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: in there.

517
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 4: Good match up here at the bottom of the field

518
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 4: close to us.

519
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: As a fake to Jalen Warren, They're gonna go right

520
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 2: to DK metcalf and it's just off of his fingertips. See,

521
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: not the perfect place.

522
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: Now, he had the lay route like you. It was

523
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: kind of interesting. I was just focusing on them because he.

524
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 4: Kind of stock blocked for a minute and then just

525
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: cut it up the middle of the field. You know,

526
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 4: it's like a slant, and their timing was just one

527
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 4: tenth of a second off and it goes off his fingertips.

528
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Speaker 3: You know.

529
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hey, that is what they are trying to

530
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: find tune. That is why you have all these practices.

531
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Speaker 2: That is why camp opens, you know what, six or

532
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: six or seven weeks before before the regular season, all

533
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: trying to iron out these wrinkles out here is Aaron

534
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 2: Rodgers will stay in the game.

535
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Speaker 4: Uh out. I bet they're keeping these ones out there

536
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 4: on purpose a little bit more because they can't be thrilled.

537
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: I think so.

538
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 4: I absolutely think that put some positive plays on film.

539
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers will give this one to trace sermon.

540
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: Four game.

541
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Speaker 2: I mean, if that's a first down play, you'll take

542
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: take four yards there up the gut on there was

543
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: there was and that was against the one not the

544
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: one front. Yeah, it's you know, I'm trying to look

545
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: in and see who's out there. It's louder Milk, it's

546
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: Dean Lowry.

547
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 3: Also think it's noteworthy.

548
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Speaker 4: I mean just from a positive perspective for the Steeler

549
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 4: d They've been kicking butt, as we've mentioned, and I

550
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 4: have not seen Cam Hayward in a real rep yet, yep.

551
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: And and minimum t J. Watt and Alex Heismith.

552
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I even seen, have not even seen a ton

553
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: of harmon invent.

554
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: No, no Jack's second one. Yeah, Sawyer and her big

555
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: getting getting some spin here, still up Peyton Wilson and

556
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen as the linebackers in near side sleigh line

557
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: up on Calvin Austin Rogers is looking looking and again

558
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: everything's just a thing's just a little off, just a

559
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: little high for John new Smith probably could have caught

560
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: that one, still.

561
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 4: Probably should have, but it's not a perfect throw and

562
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 4: he double clutched a little when he threw it, didn't

563
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 4: come out exactly on time. And everything's just a little off. Now,

564
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 4: that's not super uncommon early early in training camp, and

565
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: we went into great detail yesterday. This is a team

566
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 4: that's gonna have their leading passer, their leading receiver, their

567
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 4: leading rusher all not with it. You know, there's gonna

568
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 4: be some continuity and some growing pain issues, you know absolutely,

569
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: But it's not pretty to watch all the time.

570
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: No, it is not Mason Rudolph checking into the game now,

571
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson in motion Mason under center, he will fake

572
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: a hand off the Caleb Johnson looking down field, finds

573
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson on the crossing pattern. But once again some

574
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: chaos in the backfield. Day.

575
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, again it takes too long.

576
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: Herbig and Sawyer are are making some noise out there.

577
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: Herbert's having himself a strong practice here so far.

578
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: I feel like as well to the left tackle Anderson

579
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 4: might have moved a little early too. Yep, as just

580
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: joined in this with the offense.

581
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: First team offensive line running some some some sprints, some

582
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: laps down here. I wonder if that's by choice or

583
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: by by punishment. McCormick and Frasier and Faltanu getting some

584
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 2: getting some extra steps in here as as we.

585
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: Will get going here.

586
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, see if the see if the offense can get

587
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: moving a little bit. Robert Woods in motion, Mason Rudolph

588
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: under center, he will give it to Tray Sermon.

589
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 4: Nice hole there, Yeah, that one, nice delayed run there, nice.

590
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: Delayed run there. Some nice vision there from from Tray Sermon.

591
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: Is now we're going to have some more subs made.

592
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know, Matt, it's it's again. It's

593
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: it's that classic kind of uh how do you evaluate

594
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: between an offense a defense in practice but kind of

595
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: a continuation of what we saw through the first four practices.

596
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: And that's the defense clearly having the upper hand.

597
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I can't say I'm shocked again, right right,

598
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 4: some major moving piece is on offense and offensive o

599
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: line needs time to click no matter what. But and

600
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: I don't think the DC has a chance to be

601
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 4: really really good. But this is more lopsided than you'd want.

602
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: I would concur Connor Hayward in motion now continuing to

603
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: see a lot of motion from the offense. Rudolph still

604
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: under center, still trace sermon in the backfield. The Rudolph

605
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: will fake the sermon, and now he's gonna roll this

606
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: one out, all right, don't hit the quarterback. Okay, it's

607
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: the one guy you're still not gonna hit, even during

608
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: live tackling period here.

609
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: That wasn't by design either. There's nothing to open. He

610
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: tucked it and right ran. But it doesn't really make

611
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 4: you better as an offense doing.

612
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: That, No, no, it does not. We'll have some more

613
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: substitutions here.

614
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: Now we're gonna have.

615
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: Getting with Will Howard here to check into the game.

616
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: It looks like it the next Ben Roethlisberger. Will Howard

617
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: he is. It's funny, he's like the he's one of the.

618
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: You can't say anything bad about him, I promise.

619
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know from personal experience to get people, you say.

620
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: If you don't say that he is the next Ben Roethlisberger.

621
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: You will you will care people upset as there's a

622
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: watch watch that watch snap there offensive players on the ground,

623
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: defensive players on the ground looked like maybe a false

624
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 4: start from from from one of the tackles on offense

625
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: there maybe Stephen Jones actually out of Oregon.

626
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, it's season.

627
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: Getting with the twos and he has to pay a

628
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: little more attention to him. Yep.

629
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: But it's just it continues to be a slog for

630
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: the offense. I think that's that's probably the best way

631
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: to describe it.

632
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not nothing is clean.

633
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Nothing is clean. Yep. And it doesn't matter if it's

634
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: first team, second team, third team as now they will

635
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: they'll rehuddle here and try and uh.

636
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 4: And folks a disadvantage in all thirty two camps early on,

637
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: but this one's pretty weighted defensively clearly.

638
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: Well Howard under center. He'll take the snap play action

639
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: fake and he's just gonna dump this went off the

640
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: John new Smith there.

641
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: Protection wasn't terrible, but it took a long time for

642
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 4: it to come out.

643
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes it did. And that's another thing that

644
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: we've just kind of slow developing.

645
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, nothing's crisp, nothing's boom, hit your back,

646
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 4: footballs out, there's no precision when there are completions. It's

647
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: kind of with that really been a completion in a

648
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: game and right.

649
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: Or even on the runs like okay, would that have

650
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: been a three or.

651
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 4: Four yard rather seven or eight yard or exactly.

652
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: Let's take our last break, well, I guess not last

653
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: break are will lead us into our final segment of

654
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: this hours. Things are a little bit slower right now.

655
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: We'll break a couple of minutes early. Again, I think

656
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 2: we'll probably have the final segment during practice when we

657
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: return on the other side. Everything going on there, and

658
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Speaker 2: of course we are anticipating a phone call from Corey Trice. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's awesome after practice is over, so still plenty to

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Speaker 2: get to here. On this special edition of The Drive,

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Speaker 2: Wes Shuoler and Matt Williamson Live at practice, Live at

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Speaker 2: Back at practice here at Saint Vincent College on the

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Speaker 2: chucknol Field, as it is a beautiful hot one here today,

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Speaker 2: Bob Labriola sharing with US. Heat index down on the

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Speaker 2: field is one hundred and one degrees right now. And

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Speaker 2: I think this says it all, Matt. Mike Tomlin is

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Speaker 2: wearing shorts today during the r and your reaction, Your

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Speaker 2: reaction says it all. I don't think I've ever seen

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin and shorts, always head to toe and sweatpants usually.

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Speaker 3: Begging the sun that just you know, attack them and wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. So coaches in shorts, I think

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Speaker 2: that says it all. There's some some who's who down

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, your Mountaineer buddy uh Matt.

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Speaker 2: And Arthur Smith and Pat Fryermouth are chopping it up

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Speaker 2: at the fifty yard line, right.

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Speaker 3: Special team stuff's going on, by the way, special.

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Speaker 2: Team stuff going on now. Some of the quarterbacks are

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Speaker 2: working through some just some some light passing in front

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Speaker 2: of us as well as we're starting to take it

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Speaker 2: closer to the end of this practice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they just cleared the sidelines, so we're getting close

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Speaker 4: to the end here. I assume they'll end on some

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Speaker 4: sort of team period that's physical, but a lot of

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Speaker 4: work cuts on. I mean, we got the heat, we

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Speaker 4: got everything you wanted. Defense has certainly had a much

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Speaker 4: better day than offense, so I.

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Speaker 2: I think so. And in fact, I mean, if you're

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Speaker 2: kind of looking for the names that have stood out

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Speaker 2: that we've said a lot, Nick Herbig has been there,

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Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior has been there, Mark Robinson Robins bring up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: those feel like the three that that we've been discussing

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Speaker 2: most today. Those are all three on the defensive side

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Speaker 2: of the football.

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Speaker 4: It's it's also good things from Leal here and there.

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Speaker 4: That was defensive line in general, just controlling the point

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Speaker 4: pretty consistently, and you know, living in the other side,

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Speaker 4: other field of the backfield.

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Speaker 2: So Matt, while things are a little bit slower here

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Speaker 2: and uh while hopefully you know, like I said, maybe

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty minutes or so, we'll be talking to Corey

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Speaker 2: Trice in our final hour of the show and all

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Speaker 2: those things I did want to get into. You get

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Speaker 2: into with you. Something we talked about yesterday that you

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Speaker 2: did some good follow up research on you and I

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Speaker 2: were talking about in the h in the hallway this morning,

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Speaker 2: or while we brushing our teeth in the bathroom this

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Speaker 2: morning as well. We talked a little bit about how

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Speaker 2: obviously the number one indicator of who wins a football

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Speaker 2: game in the National Football League is turnover differential.

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Speaker 3: It absolutely is.

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Speaker 2: We all know that. It's it's discussed at nauseum. It's again,

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Speaker 2: whether you're a football one oh one or whether you're

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Speaker 2: someone like Matt, everybody knows how important turnover differential is.

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Speaker 3: And it's probably even more important than you think.

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Speaker 2: Right right, especially as like you know, ball security is

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Speaker 2: such a huge deal for all these teams. The one

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Speaker 2: time it is that one mistake, that one difference that

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Speaker 2: can end up end up being the difference. And you

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Speaker 2: spoke about.

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Speaker 4: How people will be like, man, how's this team always

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Speaker 4: over five hundred. They're usually pretty good in that category,

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Speaker 4: and it's a good start even if you don't have

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Speaker 4: great quarterback play, you know, and they are just raises

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Speaker 4: your baseline.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, and it gives you a much higher floor.

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Speaker 2: And you kind of spoke about how too, because we

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Speaker 2: were talking about how sacks are as much of a

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Speaker 2: quarterback stat as they are an.

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Speaker 4: Offensive line as yesterday.

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Speaker 2: And so that's kind of, as you said, the second

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Speaker 2: most key indicator, but it's in contention, yeah, but clearly

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Speaker 2: clearly not the first. But you did some more research

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Speaker 2: and found some information on on ranking teams how they

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Speaker 2: do those things combined.

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Speaker 4: Yes, as well as the third category, which is explosive play,

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Speaker 4: and that is huge in the league right.

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Speaker 2: Now, getting explosive plays and limiting a.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and explosive plays are down drastically from three four

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Speaker 4: five years ago because you're playing so much too high defensive.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this all stems from analytics. If we allow explosives,

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Speaker 4: it's just too We need to make the offense matriculate

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Speaker 4: the ball down the field. And as you know, if

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Speaker 4: you take a sack or a holding call or any

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Speaker 4: little negative play, gets really difficult to keep matriculating the

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Speaker 4: ball down the field. So I did do some homework

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Speaker 4: on it, and someone I didn't know the gentleman's name.

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Speaker 2: He covers the Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Bears, covers the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 4: But he put a graph together at the end of

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Speaker 4: this article where you what he did was he valued

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Speaker 4: turnover differential double. And what's pretty cool about it is

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Speaker 4: actually if you just put the cursor on it, you

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Speaker 4: can really like they point out exactly what each other was,

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Speaker 4: you know, So it's not just a graph, it's kind

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Speaker 4: of like an interactive one. But what he did is

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Speaker 4: he weighted turnover differential double. So Steelers are plus sixteen

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Speaker 4: and turnover differential, which was only behind the Bills. That

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Speaker 4: was a huge part of their successful record last year.

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Speaker 4: So that turns into plus thirty two, you know, because

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Speaker 4: he's gonna put double the weight on that. And then

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Speaker 4: he did sack differential, and he did explosive play differential

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Speaker 4: and you're looking at him not but where they were poor,

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Speaker 4: I mean they're actually are The Steelers are right there

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Speaker 4: with the playoff teams.

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Speaker 3: When you combine all these things, they.

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Speaker 2: Are and the teams that finished one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

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Speaker 2: eight nine, the top nine teams in this formula all

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Speaker 2: made the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: All made the playoffs, right, I mean this is the

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Speaker 4: best teams in the league. The Steelers are like right

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Speaker 4: by the Eagles and top teams.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, top ten in this formula.

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Speaker 3: All made the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yep. So if you're good and there's some chicken and

786
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Speaker 4: egg to this, you know, like, if you're good, these

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Speaker 4: things come. But if you also realize that these are

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Speaker 4: key components to getting a W at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, you're gonna be in the plus side more

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Speaker 4: often then not.

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Speaker 3: So why the Steelers are.

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Speaker 4: High is they have the second best turnover ratio in

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Speaker 4: the league behind the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Great, wonderful place to start.

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Speaker 4: Surprising maybe to some of our listeners, is their explosive

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Speaker 4: differential is still a plus nine, right?

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Speaker 3: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: They not crazy positive.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not a great offense, but they still

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Speaker 4: had nine more explosive plays than they allowed. Pretty good start.

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Speaker 4: Where they're lacking is sack differential, which rewind yesterday, rewind

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Speaker 4: two months ago. If your quarterback takes fewer sacks and

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Speaker 4: your defense can get from middle to near the top

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Speaker 4: of the league, which has been a goal of mine

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Speaker 4: for this reason, maybe you can be one of the

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Speaker 4: top two or three best teams in this combined metric.

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Speaker 4: And what's crazy is again some of its chicken or egg.

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Speaker 4: And I know we've got some practice here talk about

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Speaker 4: maybe we'll talking about this more than the third segment,

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Speaker 4: but the teams at the bottom of the league are

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Speaker 4: the worst teams.

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Speaker 2: And look how bad the Browns, Titans, Patriots, Raiders, Jags, Giants, Bears.

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Speaker 4: Browns are horrific in this thing. They're like minus one.

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Speaker 2: Oh one, which is almost double as much as anybody else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so. I did a whole podcast on this

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Speaker 4: for dk Pittsburgh Sports, and it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Just an easy way of looking at it.

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Speaker 4: You know that these three categories, you weigh one a

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Speaker 4: little bit more double than the others.

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Speaker 3: Which I think is a good way of doing it.

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Speaker 4: And it's not exact science, but if you can these

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Speaker 4: categories are ultra important.

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Speaker 2: They are, and we'll maybe pick up on that a

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Speaker 2: little bit more like yeah yahd But we got some

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Speaker 2: seven on seven's happening in front of us with the

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Speaker 2: ones DK Metcalf in motion with.

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Speaker 4: This is where I'd like to see that the offense

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Speaker 4: complete some balls and make some plays, you know, and

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Speaker 4: Rogers is looking for DK and just a little bit

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Speaker 4: out of his.

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Speaker 3: Reach once again again the timing's off. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Good coverage, good coverage. It was Sleigh, but Metcalf I

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Speaker 2: think had had a step on them. There were some space.

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Speaker 4: There, slightly overthrown, slightly held up there by you know,

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Speaker 4: Sleigh and this and not.

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Speaker 2: They're incompletion yep, and it's uh, it's continued. It's it's

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Speaker 2: plague to the offense today, without a doubt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even when things are good pre snap or blocked up,

839
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Speaker 4: the timing's off on the routes and everything's just a

840
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Speaker 4: little disjointing.

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Speaker 2: Metcalf will check out here and uh Rumin Wilson checking

842
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Speaker 2: in along with Pat Fryermouth and Calvin Austin. They'll be

843
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Speaker 2: in trips to the left. Calvin Austin in motion now

844
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Speaker 2: from left to right. Jalen Ramsey gonna follow him. Rogers

845
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Speaker 2: gets the ball looking towards Calvin Austin. He finds him

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Speaker 2: for a short gain over the middle.

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Speaker 4: But the defense will take that, you know. Ramsey dumps

848
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Speaker 4: him on his head. It's immediately after. So it's, you know,

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Now it's third and five, you know,

850
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Speaker 4: because they're they're they're they're actually running this like a game.

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Speaker 4: First and ten was incomplete. Yep, so it's second and ten.

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Speaker 4: Defense is very happy to give you five or six

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Speaker 4: or four or five.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Now it's third and five and you're in a bind, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Jalen Ramsey giving it to the offense man to

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Speaker 2: see a little bit more from these guys. As Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers meeting with Arthur Smith to get the play call, here,

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf checking back in. Looks like we'll have John

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Speaker 2: Neu Smith in at tight end.

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Speaker 4: I mean even in now the huddles not super crisp,

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Speaker 4: but eving just a little delayed, a little slow, a

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Speaker 4: little clunky.

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Speaker 2: Schronic and DK to the right, John Hu and Roman

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Speaker 2: Wilson to the left. As John wu will now move

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Speaker 2: in motion to Sean Elliott covering him. Aaron Rodgers gets

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Speaker 2: the ball third and five here looking downfield. Nice job

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Speaker 2: by Scronick to find a pocket in the defense there.

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Speaker 3: For Rogers puts it right on him. He's the field

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Speaker 3: real well.

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Speaker 2: Yep for a first down there. Maybe finally a little continuity,

872
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: little semblance of rhythm there from the offense as it

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Speaker 2: looks like on the far side field we got some

874
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Speaker 2: some one on ones going on between between some big fellows,

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Speaker 2: which which is which is always fun to watch Jack

876
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Sawyer against Troy Is that Troy Foutan?

877
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 4: Who? No, that is not Troy Feunton.

878
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: I think that might be cooked.

879
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: I think it is. It is dope.

880
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: That's like my favorite thing to watch at Senior Bowls,

881
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: the big guys one on ones, and yes, that's kind

882
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: of what they're doing if you guys have ever watched

883
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: senior bull coverage.

884
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: Nope, a little bit of a little bit of a

885
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: false start there on that one from Dean Lowry as

886
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: as it looks like they will have to run that

887
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: rep back. Aaron Rodgers still out here running seven on

888
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: seven's in front of us. We'll get another rep here,

889
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf out to the left, Connor Hayward moving in motion,

890
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: Rogers gets the snap, he's looking towards Connor Hayward and

891
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: just completely overthrew that one. Looks down at his hand

892
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: kind of he is not happy with his per No, he.

893
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 4: Is not at a good practice. I I'm not going

894
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: to really sugarcoat it. And it's not all on him,

895
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 4: of course, Yeah, yeah, absolutely not. I mean I think

896
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: that one Hayward, I don't know if he's exactly where

897
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: he's supposed to be, but he's standing there against zone

898
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: in a soloft pocket, Rogers ruling over his head.

899
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 3: That basically was an interception, you know, and he will

900
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: check out.

901
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph will check in here as seven on sevens

902
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 2: continue in front of us far side of the field,

903
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: It's it's hard. It's hard to make out what's going on.

904
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: I'd love that little Ya Black I believe is the

905
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: one lining up now, and uh he just has a

906
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: nice bull rush on somebody over there, Uh Doug nestor

907
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: maybe I believe it's who that was is he's starting

908
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: to get some working on the ground, but yeah, he

909
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: I think he he uh, nice start from Ya Black

910
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: there and then and then Nest are able to finish him.

911
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: And then it looks like they went to run it back,

912
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: but maybe a false start or a hold up. Let's

913
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: let's line up differently now as uh, why little.

914
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 4: Completion of friar Mouth on the in the seven on

915
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: seven stuff here, that was crisp and you picked up

916
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: six or seven easy yards in the middle field. That

917
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: was nice from Rudolph.

918
00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: And it's still still similar. Cast on on offense out

919
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: there along with Mason Rudolph, Connor Hayward still in there,

920
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: Schronick's still in there, Beanie Bishop now following Schronick in motion,

921
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph will take the snap. He's looking that way

922
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 2: and he finds Robert Woods in a nice pocket of coverage.

923
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: Actually had a pretty good practice.

924
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah, I mean he he at

925
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: this point, he's a he's a veteran NFL quarterback. He's

926
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 2: a pro. He he knows what he's doing.

927
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, no one's going to force him off

928
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: his spot or make him be an athlete in these situations.

929
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 4: But he's he's had some quality completions when those have

930
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: been hard to come by.

931
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: Today, far side of the field, still some instruction going on.

932
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 2: It looks like is that maybe Mark Robinson, who's who's

933
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: lining up to take a rep. Now it is and

934
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: he nicely done. Nicely done there. I think that might

935
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 2: have been Spencer Anderson, but again it's tough to see.

936
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: He's hard. No, it's not Spencer Anderson, but I can't.

937
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: I don't think Spencer would end up it.

938
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: He would not end up exactly right. And that's where

939
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: they had them lined up in this in this uh,

940
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: in this scenario, as Logan Lee completion.

941
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: Late down to John moving the football, at least.

942
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: Moving the football. Yeah, but again seven on sevens, I

943
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: mean you better move the football in this.

944
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: Right, in this setting, this favors the offense, which is

945
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: why we kind of opened it saying, and I hope

946
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: that they can complete some balls and move the ball

947
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: down the field, and the one group didn't.

948
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: The Rudolph is a little bit.

949
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: Will hard checking in. Now, let's see it. He's got

950
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: Trace Sermon in the backfield with him. JJ Galbreath is

951
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: out there, and we'll get JJ Gollbreath in motion from

952
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: right to left. Will Howard's got the ball. He's looking

953
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 2: left over the middle. There completes that one. In front

954
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: of Miles Killer Brew.

955
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 3: They were working in the middle of the field.

956
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: Born they are.

957
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: They are working the middle of the field. Absolutely, We've

958
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: seen a lot of a lot of crossing routes, a

959
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: lot of underneath stuff. As another rep on the far side.

960
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 4: Left tackle held up, well there, I assume that's Cook,

961
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: but it's a ken. I wish I could see the

962
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: numbers and who's going.

963
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's Cook and Doug Nestor

964
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 2: on the left side. I want to say that's Doug

965
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 2: Nester seventy two right now.

966
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: Who's he fought and scrapped till the end?

967
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: Who's worthing? He's an interesting one for me.

968
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea.

969
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: He well, he started his collegiate career at Virginia Tech

970
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: and then finished at WVU, one of those you know

971
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: transfer portal guys, and played Matt in his in his

972
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: collegiate career, basically every position but center really. I mean

973
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: he he played a lot of gold. He started. He

974
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: started as a guard for Virginia Tech and he came

975
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: into w VU played one year as a guard before

976
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: he got kicked out the tackle.

977
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 3: I have not seen him line up at tackle.

978
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: I have not, and that would surprise me, right, And

979
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: I do think his skill set if he's going to

980
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: stick on an NFL roster like the practice squad like

981
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: he was last year for the Steelers, would be at guard,

982
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: and hey, just if.

983
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: You know if he has any center capability.

984
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever played I don't think. I

985
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: don't think he's ever played it. He's he's been, like

986
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: I said, pretty much exclusively guard and tackle between his

987
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: time at RG. I know he didn't play any at

988
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: WU because he was there with Zach Frasier during all

989
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: those years. And like I said, I don't believe he

990
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: played any at Virginia Tech either, But again, you're looking

991
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: for somebody to emerge from that group.

992
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe anybody. I mean, they kept him around for

993
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: this past year for a reason. They must have saw

994
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: something they liked.

995
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: Is that Skylar Thompson in at quarterback now? I believe so? Yes,

996
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 2: it is as he will look downfield, far side, big

997
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: men starting to walk over this way, Matt, So I

998
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: wonder if that is signaling the end of practice.

999
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the end of practice, or if

1000
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: they'll do a team.

1001
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: They'll do one more, because we're right in about two

1002
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: hours now.

1003
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we should get the break.

1004
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that let's get the break. We'll bring

1005
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: everything in the conclusion of practice for you, hopefully a

1006
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: conversation with Corey Trice as well as we roll along.

1007
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: Weshuuler Matt Williamson special edition of the Drive Bonus Hour

1008
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,680
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1009
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