WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: The Philips Story: Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and how the tech are you? It is time for

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<v Speaker 1>a classic episode. We are going to conclude the two

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<v Speaker 1>parter that we started last Friday. So if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>listen to last Friday's classic episode, I recommend you go

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<v Speaker 1>listen to that first because this is the Phillips Story,

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<v Speaker 1>Part two, and this originally published on January two, thousand sixteen. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly we could do an update because it has been

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few years since I did these episodes, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I will do that in the future, But first

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<v Speaker 1>let's listen to this classic episode from We'll begin this

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<v Speaker 1>episode with a discussion about what happened to Anton's son,

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<v Speaker 1>Fritz Phillips as much of the world was plunged into

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<v Speaker 1>the con flick known as World War Two. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you remember from our last episode, Anton and his son

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<v Speaker 1>in law Franston or Franz Aughton, fled the Netherlands. They

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<v Speaker 1>went to North America. They had established a North American

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<v Speaker 1>base of operations to work from during the course of

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<v Speaker 1>World War two. Much of Phillip's management followed suit, but

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<v Speaker 1>but Fritz Phillips stayed behind in the Netherlands, and Fritz

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<v Speaker 1>really tried to protect the interests of the company as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the company's employees during the entire Nazi occupation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now from nineteen forty until nineteen forty three, Fritz kept

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<v Speaker 1>things running at Phillips, even resisting the moves by the

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<v Speaker 1>Nazis to switch the operations to more warlike efforts to

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<v Speaker 1>support Germany's UH operations. And Fritz really was all to

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<v Speaker 1>resist that fairly effectively. But in April nineteen forty three,

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<v Speaker 1>things took a very dark turn for Fritz, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>was a terrible time for much of Europe because in

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<v Speaker 1>April nineteen forty three, the Nazis made a declaration that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty much the doom for Fritz Phillips at least

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<v Speaker 1>for the next two years. So when Germany invaded the

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<v Speaker 1>Netherlands back in nineteen forty, the three thousand members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Dutch Army had been essentially captured but then released

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<v Speaker 1>after the Netherlands officially surrendered to Germany. So the three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand members of the Dutch army were under German supervision

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<v Speaker 1>for a while and then allowed to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>rejoin Dutch society under the Nazi occupation. But in ninety three,

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<v Speaker 1>Germany declared that those three hundred thousand soldiers would be

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<v Speaker 1>conscripted and forced into labor on behalf of Germany, so

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<v Speaker 1>they'd become, you know, essentially slave labor to the Nazis,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Phillips employees decided to go on strike to

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<v Speaker 1>protest this move. It wasn't and move against Fritz Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a move against the Nazis. But Germany held

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<v Speaker 1>Fritz Phillips personally responsible and captured him and put him

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<v Speaker 1>in a concentration camp and essentially was trying to use

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<v Speaker 1>him as leverage to force Phillips employees back to work. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>while in captivity, Fritz was put in charge of a

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<v Speaker 1>camp workshop in that concentration camp, and it was staffed

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<v Speaker 1>by Jewish prisoners. So again he did his best to

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<v Speaker 1>protect his workers in the concentration camp, trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that he he made it clear that each one

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<v Speaker 1>of them was necessary for him to do the work

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<v Speaker 1>that the Nazis were demanding. Tragically, uh he started with

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred sixty nine Jewish employees. Only two of them

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<v Speaker 1>survived to the end of the war. Um and I

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<v Speaker 1>say only three two because it's just a tragedy for

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<v Speaker 1>any of those lives to be lost. Obviously, however, it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost I can't even say it's a silver lining, but

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<v Speaker 1>he did manage to protect quite a few of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you compare those numbers with the Dutch

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish population, overall, almost all the Jews in the Netherlands

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<v Speaker 1>had been completely eliminated eradicated. So Fritz Phillips actually did

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<v Speaker 1>succeed in saving lives, and I'm sure that he would

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<v Speaker 1>have wish that he could have saved all of them

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<v Speaker 1>for his efforts. Israel actually decorated Fritz Phillips with the

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<v Speaker 1>Yad Vashiam Medal in nineteen and he was alive to

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<v Speaker 1>accept that that honor. Fritz survived the war, as I

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<v Speaker 1>just indicated. After his release, he dedicated the next several

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<v Speaker 1>years to rebuilding the Phillips presence in the Netherlands because

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<v Speaker 1>during the course of World War Two, Phillips factories were

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<v Speaker 1>hit hard. They had been bombed by the Allies twice

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<v Speaker 1>and then once by the Germans. When the Germans were withdrawing.

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<v Speaker 1>During their retreat, they also bombed the Phillips manufacturing factories.

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<v Speaker 1>He would eventually become the president of Phillips in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one. He retired in nineteen seventy one, and he

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<v Speaker 1>passed away in two thousand five at the age of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years old. But going back to just after

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two, during that era, uh, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was a period of rebuilding and by most

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<v Speaker 1>of the facilities had recovered. Meanwhile, Phillips research focused on

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<v Speaker 1>things like transistors and integrated circuits. Over the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of decades. Really the nineteen fifties was the era of

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<v Speaker 1>the integrated circuit and the transistor. Uh that work was

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<v Speaker 1>really being pioneered at places like Bell Labs. But Phillips were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the companies like Phelips were able to jump

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<v Speaker 1>on that bandwagon, as it were, and add their own

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<v Speaker 1>expertise in advancing the technology of integrated circuits and building

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<v Speaker 1>a foundation for future work in electronics. In nineteen forty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips introduced the syncro cyclotron, which sounds like a really

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<v Speaker 1>wicked amusement park ride, but the syncros cyclotron was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a particle accelerator. Now that might sound unusual. You're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a company that's largely known for its work in

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<v Speaker 1>electronics and stuff, so that's fairly simple things like radios

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<v Speaker 1>and lamps, and a little bit in the medical field

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<v Speaker 1>with X ray technology. But this was another example of

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<v Speaker 1>how Phillips was really valuing pure scientific research. Not only

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<v Speaker 1>was Phillips looking to join and create new markets and electronics,

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<v Speaker 1>but also push our understanding of the fundamental nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. Uh. There was a physicist, a famous physicist

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<v Speaker 1>named Kasimir who worked on this project, and Kasimir was

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<v Speaker 1>a notable scientist. His name was actually used to describe

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<v Speaker 1>a certain physical force that results from a quantized field.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the Casimir effect. That research would later become

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<v Speaker 1>important for micro electro mechanical systems known as mems. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's another good example of how some fundamental understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>science can end up being a huge benefit further on

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<v Speaker 1>the line, something that you could not possibly have anticipated

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<v Speaker 1>when you first set out to study it. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm beating a dead horse here, but I really do

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<v Speaker 1>believe deeply in this philosophy that pure science has value,

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<v Speaker 1>and often it has value that we cannot anticipate when

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<v Speaker 1>we set out to answer questions. And so if you

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<v Speaker 1>happen to ever be in a position where you can

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<v Speaker 1>help fund pure science, I urge you to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you don't have an immediate return on what

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<v Speaker 1>that investment will mean, because you never know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to turn into in the future. All right, let your over,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to it. In ninete, skipping ahead quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, Phillips introduced the compact audio cassette. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what we in the eighties called a cassette tape. Cassette

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<v Speaker 1>tape is essentially a little plastic cartridge, inside of which

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<v Speaker 1>is a real that has a ribbon of magnetic tape

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<v Speaker 1>upon which you can record audio. So magnetic tape was

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<v Speaker 1>not a brand new medium. It's not like Phillips invented

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic tape. Previous versions were already in existence and had

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<v Speaker 1>been used for both commercial and home uses. But the

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<v Speaker 1>home use was pretty limited because really, the predecessor to

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<v Speaker 1>the cassette tape was real to real audio. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>had real to real audio sets, but they were pretty expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was one of those things that only people

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of money and a lot of interest

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<v Speaker 1>in technology actually owned. The average person didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>real to real tape player, and the cassette tape was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of uh an effort to bring this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>technology into the realm of the consumer market, creating a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new space. UH. The Phillips innovation meant that you

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<v Speaker 1>had a compact, portable, and eventually an expensive alternative to

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<v Speaker 1>real to real tape, and that was great. They debuted

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<v Speaker 1>the cassette tape at the nineteen sixty three Berlin Radio Show.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be introduced to the United States the following year,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty four. Other companies were also attempting to

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<v Speaker 1>establish a standard for personal audio at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>So that raises a question, how did Phillips end up

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<v Speaker 1>making its design the cassette tape the standard. Why? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is that the standard and not something else that was

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<v Speaker 1>being developed at the same time by another company? And

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is mostly due to a strategy that was

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<v Speaker 1>forced on Phillips. Phillips ended up licensing the design for

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<v Speaker 1>free to Sony. The design of the cassette tape to Sony.

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<v Speaker 1>Sony had really been pressuring Phillips to do this. At

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<v Speaker 1>that time. Japanese companies were really on the rise, they

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<v Speaker 1>were hapidly overtaking other companies in other parts of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Phillips the writing was on the wall. If

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips did not do this, than some other company stood

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<v Speaker 1>to gain the most by becoming the standard in home

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<v Speaker 1>audio formats. So they agreed, and as Sony adopted that

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips form factor for cassette tapes, the standard was set,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that is how we have cassette tapes and

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<v Speaker 1>not some other format format. But it wouldn't be until

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineteen seventies that the cassette form factor really

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<v Speaker 1>became popular among consumers. So it was more than a

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<v Speaker 1>decade later that people actually started to buy cassette tapes

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<v Speaker 1>in large amounts. And the big reason for that was

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<v Speaker 1>because the quality just wasn't there early on, but for

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<v Speaker 1>both playback and for recording, and vinyl records had much

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<v Speaker 1>higher fidelity. The sound was better from a vinyl record.

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<v Speaker 1>If you bought a cassette tape and try to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the same music that you can get on vinyl,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be disappointed in the noise that would be present

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<v Speaker 1>on the recording. So cassette tapes originally could not really

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<v Speaker 1>compete with the fidelity of records, but as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>that quality reached a good enough standard, cassettes began to

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<v Speaker 1>overtake vinyl. So this is an example of a format

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<v Speaker 1>that you could argue is of an inferior quality. There

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<v Speaker 1>are people who will argue to their deathbed that vinyl

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<v Speaker 1>records are the highest fidelity you can possibly achieve um

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a very true representation of the sound that

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<v Speaker 1>was generated at the time of recording. But you could

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<v Speaker 1>also argue that ultimately that doesn't matter to the consumer.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to make the quality good enough and

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<v Speaker 1>make it super convenient, and if it's more convenient than

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative and it's not prohibitively expensive, people will switch

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<v Speaker 1>to that format. That's what happened with cassette tapes. They

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<v Speaker 1>weren't superior in quality to vinyl records, but you could

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<v Speaker 1>carry them around with you much easier than you could

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<v Speaker 1>with records. You could even install something like a tape

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<v Speaker 1>deck in your car and listen to him on the go.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't really do that with vinyl, at least not without

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<v Speaker 1>taking the smoothest roads possible, because any bump would totally

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<v Speaker 1>ruin your record collection, and it didn't matter that the

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<v Speaker 1>quality wasn't as good because the convenience was there. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back with more about the Philips story after this

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. You might wonder how does magnetic tape work?

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought it might be cool to just quickly

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<v Speaker 1>cover the basics to explain what magnetic tape is actually doing. So,

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<v Speaker 1>the tape itself is a plastic base, So the ribbons

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<v Speaker 1>is plastic, and it has a coating of feric oxide

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<v Speaker 1>powder which is ferro magnetic um, and it's usually paired

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<v Speaker 1>with some sort of binding agent so it sticks to

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<v Speaker 1>the plastic film properly. Now, if you expose that feric

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<v Speaker 1>oxide to a magnetic field, the magnetic field will cause

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<v Speaker 1>the particles to align in a particular way. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you move a ribbon coated with feric oxide powder through

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<v Speaker 1>a varying magnetic field, so you're changing the magnetic field

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<v Speaker 1>over time as the ribbon passes through it. The ribbon

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<v Speaker 1>actually becomes a record of the changes in that magnetic field.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in other words, if you were to visually represent

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<v Speaker 1>the changes of that magnetic field across the ribbon, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be like a timeline your reconstruction, reconstructing the time

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning to the end of how that magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>field changed. Now that magnetic field represents music or or sound,

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<v Speaker 1>you get an electric current, you put it through an

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<v Speaker 1>electro magnet. The changing current in the electromagnet creates this

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<v Speaker 1>variable magnetic field that gets recorded onto this tape. You

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<v Speaker 1>play the tape back through a playback device. Moving this

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<v Speaker 1>ribbon with the magnetic material past an electro magnet that's

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<v Speaker 1>not turned on will expose the electro magnet to a

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<v Speaker 1>changing magnetic field that ends up inducing electric current to

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<v Speaker 1>flow in the electro magnet, which then can be sent

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<v Speaker 1>to an amplifier, which then can be sent to speakers,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get your sound. It's really amazing, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's actually pretty simple when you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's translating one type of energy into another and

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<v Speaker 1>then using magnetic field to record it. But there's something

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind that refuses to dismiss the possibility that

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<v Speaker 1>all of this is magic. I understand on a physical

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<v Speaker 1>level what's happening, but it's so phenomenal to me that

0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you might as well have a wand in your hand

0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and be speaking faux Latin at any rate. That's how

0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.320
<v Speaker 1>magnetic tape works. So let's get back to Phillips. They

0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:31.560
<v Speaker 1>had set the standard for home audio with the cassette tape,

0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and as a result they they managed to change the

0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.240
<v Speaker 1>world of home media, but it took more than a

0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.520
<v Speaker 1>decade for that to really take hold. The nine seventies

0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.880
<v Speaker 1>were really challenging for Phillips. I mentioned that Fritz Phillips

0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.000
<v Speaker 1>had retired in nineteen seventy one as president after a

0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.680
<v Speaker 1>really prosperous decade. The sixties were pretty good, but the

0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:56.920
<v Speaker 1>seventies were getting tough. Uh. The replacement was Hank fun

0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.280
<v Speaker 1>reems Ditch. That's my best s at how to pronounce

0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.760
<v Speaker 1>his last name, and he became the new president, but

0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.560
<v Speaker 1>he was facing some pretty hefty challenges. Those Japanese companies

0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:14.000
<v Speaker 1>were becoming increasingly powerful and competitive, and that really forced

0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:18.080
<v Speaker 1>another round of reorganization over at Phillips. So one of

0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.479
<v Speaker 1>the things that reems Ditch did was shut down some

0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.280
<v Speaker 1>of the smaller factories that were owned by Phillips because

0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:30.040
<v Speaker 1>these smaller companies, these smaller factories weren't as efficient as

0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.399
<v Speaker 1>larger operations. So the smaller ones got shuttered and the

0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:40.320
<v Speaker 1>larger ones were prioritized. In nineteen seventy two, Phillips introduced

0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:44.919
<v Speaker 1>the first successful consumer home video cassette recorder system. The

0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:50.840
<v Speaker 1>company called it Video Cassette Recording or vc R, but

0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't confuse this with the VHS or Beta Max formats.

0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.879
<v Speaker 1>It was a different style of cassette tape. The v

0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.719
<v Speaker 1>see our cassettes were actually kind of these chunky squares

0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.000
<v Speaker 1>rather than rectangles, and they housed two coaxial reels of

0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.760
<v Speaker 1>magnetic tape. They were available in three different varieties. You

0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.679
<v Speaker 1>could get them in thirty minute, forty five minute, or

0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:18.400
<v Speaker 1>sixty minute versions, although supposedly the sixty minute ones were

0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:24.520
<v Speaker 1>particularly tricky. They could snag and and foul pretty easily,

0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:29.040
<v Speaker 1>so they were not reliable. Uh and unless you're from Europe,

0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you're probably not terribly familiar with the format. Because Phillips

0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.920
<v Speaker 1>never sold the devices in any other regions. They were

0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at getting into North America, and in fact it

0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.760
<v Speaker 1>even started marketing campaigns in North America to try and

0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:48.400
<v Speaker 1>introduce the VCR, but before they could, the VHS debuted

0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:54.240
<v Speaker 1>in America and became adopted as the standard um and

0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.480
<v Speaker 1>that pretty much foiled the plans of Phillips. During the

0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.520
<v Speaker 1>late nineteen seventies to to bring the v CR to

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<v Speaker 1>the US. In nineteen seventy four, Phillips purchased another company

0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:09.640
<v Speaker 1>called Magnavox. Magnavox was an American electronics company that started

0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.840
<v Speaker 1>all the way back in nineteen seventeen, and it produced

0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different types of devices, but my favorite

0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.160
<v Speaker 1>was the Magnavox Odyssey, which was the first home video

0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.840
<v Speaker 1>game console. Now Phillips purchased it, and in the nineteen

0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:27.040
<v Speaker 1>eighties they would combine Magnavox with a couple of other

0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:31.520
<v Speaker 1>acquisitions that the company had made, phil COO and Sylvania,

0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.720
<v Speaker 1>so you had Magnavox, Philco, and Sylvania all combined into

0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:39.479
<v Speaker 1>one division underneath the Phillips brand by the mid nineteen eighties.

0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:45.600
<v Speaker 1>The president, Reems ditch Uh, stepped down in nineteen seventy seven.

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.840
<v Speaker 1>He was replaced with a man named Nico Rawdenburg, and

0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the next few years saw an increase in sales, but

0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 1>revenue didn't really go anywhere. So even though they were

0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:01.200
<v Speaker 1>selling more products, revenues were m meaning kind of static.

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And in Visa Decker became president and chairman of the

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:13.280
<v Speaker 1>board of Phillips and he restructured the company again so

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you could almost argue that the history of Phillips is

0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a series of restructuring and reorganizing to try and uh

0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.560
<v Speaker 1>get more focus. It seemed like the company would pare down,

0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.719
<v Speaker 1>then build up again, and then the next regime, if

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you will, would come in and pare down all over

0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.520
<v Speaker 1>again in order to try and get some some laser

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like focus for this company. Well, Decker's plan ended up

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:45.359
<v Speaker 1>closing more than a quarter of all the plants located

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 1>in Europe, and so this leanard company was able to

0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 1>turn things around and increase revenues once again. But Decker

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.879
<v Speaker 1>also started making some big acquisitions, including buying a lighting

0:20:55.920 --> 0:21:01.520
<v Speaker 1>division from Westinghouse. So again an example of paring down

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.280
<v Speaker 1>but building back up again. Over the next several years,

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Phillips would have a few different presidents, so I thought

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I would lump them all together in this section rather

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.440
<v Speaker 1>than peppering them throughout the rest of the podcast. So

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just tell you all the people who have

0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:22.920
<v Speaker 1>led Phillips from Decker to present day, so and keep

0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.639
<v Speaker 1>in mind restructuring was pretty much a a go to

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:30.919
<v Speaker 1>strategy with each person. There was a Cornelis van der Kut,

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:35.440
<v Speaker 1>who led the company in nineteen six. Jan Tremor came

0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:40.639
<v Speaker 1>on board in nineteen nine, Core Boonstra in nine six,

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Gerard Cloister Lee in two thousand eleven, and the current

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 1>CEO is Franz von Houghton. So I decided to just

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 1>sum them up all now so that we could get

0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 1>back into the technology. So Phillips the company partnered with

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.520
<v Speaker 1>m c A to develop a new product called the

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<v Speaker 1>Laser Disc that originally was marketed in the United States

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.639
<v Speaker 1>under the name of the m c A Disco Vision,

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.640
<v Speaker 1>which I think is a phenomenal product name I wish

0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Disco Vision had been its name forever. Uh. The first

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:20.120
<v Speaker 1>place it went on sale was actually Atlanta, Georgia in ninet.

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>It went on sale there before it appeared anywhere else

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.879
<v Speaker 1>in the United States, so shout out to my hometown

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:32.280
<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta, Georgia. Now, both m c A and Phillips

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>have been working on an optical video technology separately optical

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:42.440
<v Speaker 1>meaning that you're using some form of light to record

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and read the information off a disk in order for

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you to get the video and audio that has been

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>put on that disc. And both m c A and

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Phillips have been working on this at the same time,

0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:01.720
<v Speaker 1>but They both also noted there had just been this

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>massive war of formats between VHS and Beta Max and

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>m c A, and Phillips came to the conclusion that

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 1>it made more sense for them to join together and

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to combine their knowledge and come out with a united

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>product rather than try and have another format war which

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>could hurt both companies. So they entered a partnership and

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>created LaserDisc, which never really met with widespread success here

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>in the United States. There are other markets like in

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Asia where it did quite well, but in the US

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>there was a passionate market, but it was very small.

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>So there were some home theater enthusiasts, again mostly people

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 1>who had a decent amount of money at their disposal

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 1>who adopted LaserDisc technology, but for the most part it

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>was kind of an afterthought. Part of that was because

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't use it to right stuff to the discs.

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Now you're you're consumer products. They were read only, so

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you could buy movies and watch them, but you couldn't

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>record anything. VHS had an advantage there you could record

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff from television onto tape and keep it forever. So

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>even though LaserDisc quality was better than VHS quality at

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 1>least initially. Again, it didn't matter that the quality was better.

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't It wasn't practical and convenient enough for people

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>who wanted to have that home theater experience. So ultimately

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it didn't really take off here in the US, and uh,

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it still was a very interesting story, but it did

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>lead to another partnership. This time it was a partnership

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 1>between Phillips and Sony. They decided to work together to

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>develop a digital audio disc. The two companies poured time, money,

0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and other resources into research into element and the result

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>was the Compact Disc, which became a worldwide standard. And

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of interesting stories about the history

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of the Compact disc, including things like how did they

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.919
<v Speaker 1>come to decide what were the standards for things like

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 1>bit rate that you record to on a disk. Maybe

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>one day I will do a full episode just about

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the Compact disc and why compact discs are the way

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>they are because those were decisions that were made. It's

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>not like it it was just the magical properties of

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the CD. But in order to make sure that this

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>standard survived the test of time, Sony and Phillips decided

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to do something similar to what Phillips had done with

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>cassette tapes. They granted manufacturing rights for CD players to

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>other manufacturers. In other words, they gave competition the right

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to make their own CD players because if they didn't,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 1>the fear was that these other manufacturers would try to

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 1>create standards of their own and that would fracture the market.

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 1>So just imagine that you're trying to buy music and

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:10.479
<v Speaker 1>there are five different formats out there, hard hard copy

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>formats that are similar to c d s, but they

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>aren't compatible with each other. So, in other words, you

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 1>have a system at home, it will only play one

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>version of the media. You have to go out there

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.679
<v Speaker 1>and hope that whatever album you want is available on

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the media. You have advantage, you know, you can take

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>advantage of. That's what Sony and Phillips wanted to avoid.

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>They did not want that world to happen because consumers

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be very happy. It would end up hurting all

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>the parties involved. So that's why they granted the rights

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>to other manufacturers to make things like CD players. We

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>will conclude the Phillips story to parter. At least as

0:26:51.240 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand sixteen. After these messages in, Phillips would

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>change its name to Phillips Electronics Envy, which finally is pronounceable,

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>so I thank them for that decision. They also introduced

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a console in the home video game market called the

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Phillips c d I c D DASH lowercase I that

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 1>actually stood for Compact Disc Interactive and it was meant

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to combine the functionality of a CD player and a

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.199
<v Speaker 1>video game console while still being less expensive than a

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>PC that had a CD ROM drive. In the mid nineties,

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Phillips increased the functionality of the c d I by

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>introducing Internet connectivity and making it one of the first

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>consoles capable of browsing the web or playing games online.

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>In order to do that, you actually had to buy

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>an expansion for the c d I, which caused something

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like a hundred and fifty bucks, which at the time

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>was pretty expensive, I mean six US of now, but

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to adjust for inflation because that was the

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>mid nineties, with a D fifty dollars on top of

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the price of the c d I by itself. Now,

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>what was really interesting to me is that the c

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>d I was able to do something that most video

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>game consoles have not been able to do, at least

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>non Nintendo video game consoles, they were able to license

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>characters from Nintendo like Mario and Link and Zelda. They

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.120
<v Speaker 1>were able to license all of those characters and make

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>games featuring those characters for a non Nintendo video game system.

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>How did that happen? Well, the reason is that originally

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo was looking into building a CD ROM add on

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, and so Nintendo and

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Phillips were going to partner together. Phillips was going to

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>build the hardware, the CD ROM hardware that would connect

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Nintendo console and that would give Nintendo the

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>ability to increase it's its range by adding CD capability

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to the Nintendo Entertainment System or Super Nintendo Entertainment System.

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>But other CD based video game consoles were not doing

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>so well in the market, so Nintendo changed its mind.

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>The company said, you know, maybe we were a little hasty.

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>To me. It looks like this is not the right

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>path for us to take right now, so we're gonna

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>back off. We're gonna cancel this arrangement. But as sort

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of a consolation prize to Phillips for having to cancel

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:50.719
<v Speaker 1>this agreed upon partnership, Nintendo said, when you make your

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>video game console. You can use these properties for certain

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>number of video games, and that's where we got things

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like Hotel Mario Fat A lot of good it did Phillips,

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>though the video games were widely considered to be pretty awful,

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>so they were not enough to save the system and

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>push it to popularity. In fact, a lot of publications

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>out there will list the Phillips c d I as

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the worst consoles ever in the history of ever.

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>It was considered to be that bad, largely not because

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of the hardware, but because of the lackluster games that

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>were developed for it. It's a very forward thinking kind

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>of console, it just didn't execute well and didn't have

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the support as far as software is concerned. Now, in

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>the mid nine nineties, Phillips and Sony would join forces again,

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but this time they also had Teshiba and Panasonic with

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>them to develop what was called the Digital Versatile Disc

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>or DVD. Now. The reason for that alliance was again

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to avoid another home media format war like that VHS

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Beta MAX battle. Before the DVD, there were two primary

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>formats that were racing to become the standard. One of

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>those formats was backed by Sony and Phillips and was

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>called the Multimedia Compact Disc or mm c D. The

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>other was called the Super Density Disc or s D,

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and it was supported by companies like Pioneer, Tshiba, and

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>j v C. The alliance actually allowed these various parties

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to collaborate together and incorporate some of the technology they

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>had developed separately into a single format, which became the

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>new standard DVD, and it also headed off that format

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>war in the process. While that strategy worked, it seems

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that Toshiba kind of forgot all about the importance of

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it a few years later when it tried to pit

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>its HD DVD standard against Blu Ray. So Phillips was

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>part of the Blu Ray Disc Association or b d A,

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and their companies in the b d A included Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer,

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of others, essentially everyone who wasn't Ta Shiba.

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>And so you had this this fight between Blu Ray

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and HD DVD, and for a while it looked like

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>h D DVD might even win, but ultimately they had

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to pull out of the race. Blue Ray obviously one

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't see h D DVD sets out there these days.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I actually got to see the results of this battle

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>in person, because when I went to c e S

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, there was a big empty spot

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>on the show floor where h D DVD was supposed

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to be, and that is unusual. Usually every square foot

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of c E S has some sort of booth attached

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to it. If it's not a booth, it's a pathway

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>between booths. So to have a big area that had

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>nothing in it was pretty conspicuous. It was made even

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>more conspicuous by the fact that Ray that year had

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>designed their booth to look like an enormous pirate ship

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that was modeled after the Pirates of the Caribbean movies,

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>So it was very obvious that h D DVD was

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the ship that sunk in that particular battle. In two thousand,

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Phillips closed a chapter in its history by transforming the

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>nat Lab that's the research and development facility I talked

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>about in Part one. They changed it into the High

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Tech Campus Eindhoven, which is an open research facility that

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>has multiple participating organizations. Phillips is one of them, but

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not the only one anymore. This followed nearly three

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>decades of decline in that lab. It's actually kind of

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>a sad story. So Phillips during these restructuring UH processes

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>where they kept on having to reorganize and and and

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of leaned down. One of the things that was

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>happening was that they were pulling resources away from search

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and development. In the process UH, they started to de

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>emphasize the importance of pure scientific research and really looked

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>at the NAT lab is more of a standard R

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:18.919
<v Speaker 1>and D lab rather than pushing the envelope of science exploration.

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And then finally they just opened it up to other organizations.

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>So now it's no longer a Phillips based organ It's

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Phillips is still involved, but it's no longer the parent

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:36.760
<v Speaker 1>of that particular facility. Recently, Phillips has also introduced interesting

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>systems and healthcare. They've been involved in healthcare since the

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>twenties when they were working with X rays, but now

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you can find stuff like the Ambient Experience. That's what

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>it's actually called. UH. It's an integrated solution that incorporates

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 1>dynamic lighting, sound, and architecture to improve patient care and

0:34:55.920 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>hospital efficiency. So kind of a hospital that bonds to

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 1>the needs of the doctors and patients who are who

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>are there, which is kind of cool. A neat idea.

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Phillips also launched a three D scanner in two thousand

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>six that is used to create high quality CT scans,

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and the company continued to invest in X ray development,

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>creating new systems that use lower dosages of X ray

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>radiation to really limit that exposure both to patients and

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to healthcare professionals and UH and reduce the risk of

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 1>causing damage with that radiation. But Phillips has also pulled

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>back from a few industries in an effort to simplify

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and focus its efforts. I've already mentioned that Phillips is

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, they no longer manufacture their own branded televisions,

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>but they've also pulled out of semiconductor operations. They did

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that back in two thousand five, two thousand six, And

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>there's been some other troubles as well. In two thousand twelve,

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the European Union find Phillips, along with several other companies,

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>with a charge of fixing prices for TV cathode ray tubes. Essentially,

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 1>they said that these companies all colluded to fix cathode

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>ray to prices rather than compete against one another. In

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>two thousand thirteen, the company renamed itself again. This time

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>they called themselves Royal Phillips, which is the current name

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of the company, and in two thousand fourteen, the company

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>announced it would split into two separate entities, so one

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>company would be a lighting business and the other company

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>would be consumer lifestyle and healthcare. So Royal Phillips would

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>become the consumer Lifestyle and healthcare business, and the new company,

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 1>which will launch with an I p O sometime in

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand sixteen, at least that's the belief as I

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:47.439
<v Speaker 1>record this podcast, will become uh Phillips Lighting, So you'll

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 1>have two different Phillips companies at that time, independent one

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of the other h So you have Royal Phillips and

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Phillips Lighting. So let's let's bring this whole story back

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>full circle. We started the discussion about Phillips by talking

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 1>about carbon filaments for lightbulbs. I thought it would conclude

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>by talking about one of the products Phillips has introduced

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 1>over the last few years, Philips Hugh, which is a

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>special kind of light bulb. It's sort of the fitting

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>end to the series. So we're talking about LED light

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 1>bulbs that are capable of displaying light in various light

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>temperatures in other words, that can change color. UM it's networked,

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 1>so it actually connects to your wireless network at home,

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and you can control the light bulbs using something like

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>a tablet or a smartphone. You can set it so

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that they're different colors, or even change colors over time.

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>You can even there's certain UM television programs that have

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.760
<v Speaker 1>been designed so that if you have a huge system

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>at home and you haven't connected, so that you're television

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>viewing and your Hugh lighting are all integrated with each other,

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the hue ight bulbs will change color in reaction to

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>what you are watching. In other words, it becomes this

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>coordinated immersive experience. So as an example, if there were

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>an explosion on the television show you're watching, the lights

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 1>might quickly flash a certain color to create that explosion effect.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's even more immersive in your home, which I

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>think is kind of neat. It's also pretty dorky, but

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm also extremely dorky, thus pretty neat. Also, it's really expensive,

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, to to buy these these bulbs. You first

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>have to have a bridge to connect the bulbs to

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>your WiFi system, and I think your typical kit comes

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>with a bridge and three light bulbs, and it's still

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty hefty price. And then you have to add more

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>lightbulbs if you want to have, you know, a greater

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:55.919
<v Speaker 1>amount of lighting in your house. So it gets more

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and more expensive the more light bulbs you add, and

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you have a certain number that you could add up

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>to the to a point, and then after that the

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>bridge can't handle anymore. So it's not necessarily a practical solution.

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.959
<v Speaker 1>It might be considered more of a toy for people

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>who really like electronics and lighting effects. I personally have

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>not purchased Phillips Hugh lightbulbs. I've thought about it a

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.959
<v Speaker 1>few times, just haven't made the plunge yet, but maybe

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I will. We'll see, because I do think it's a

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>cool idea and I think it's neat to see how

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>a company that was founded on creating lightbulbs is still

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>innovating in that space. Although of course now there are

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 1>competing products on the market. They're similar to Phillips Hugh,

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>so obviously more innovation will be required in order to

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>remain relevant. I hope you enjoyed that classic episode from sixteen.

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, there's a lot that's happened in the

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>years since, so we could probably do an update on

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the Philips story. Of course, I always feel weird about

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 1>doing that. I almost feel like I should redo the

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>older episodes because the style has adapted over time, and

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>it just feels like whenever I do it addendum to

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>older episodes, there's a big disconnect. It means a lot

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 1>more work, but it ends up being a more coherent series.

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Let me know what you think.

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Does it make sense for me to go back over

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 1>older material and give it a fresh start, or do

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you prefer me just um doing an update, like not

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>going back and redoing the older stuff. I'm curious to

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:35.040
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