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Speaker 2: Forty five year old Day is now seventy and ten.

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Speaker 1: And now after all those wins and all those guys

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Speaker 2: Guess what, he has an one title.

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Speaker 1: He finally, Oh Joe watching this game, I saw you

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Speaker 2: So now you're like, okay, we might have a ball game.

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, I thought we were going to have a

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Speaker 4: were no adjustments that were able to be made by

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Speaker 5: The Dame has been good all year.

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Speaker 4: They lost more game, They've been good all year, but

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Speaker 5: It looked like they were overmatched. They were overmatched.

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Speaker 4: As most people would say, if you were a game

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Speaker 5: And they showed up to night.

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Speaker 4: They put enough space in between them when Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought they got kind of got conservative.

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Speaker 2: But Ohio State. Congratulations to Ryan Day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he calls a lot of criticism, I think,

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Speaker 5: You can't. You can't take it away from now.

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Speaker 4: And you talk about all the players he's had, all

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Speaker 4: You're naming players that played for the Ohio State, some

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Speaker 1: Back to back national championship, National champions and the Big

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Speaker 1: Well, what what what? What's really what's good? What's really

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, Jeremiah Smith is gonna be a first

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Speaker 2: Just like all these other guys, all the other receivers.

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Speaker 4: As polished, as polished as Jeremiah Smith is, as NFL

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Speaker 5: Think about this, Look how we look this year as

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Speaker 4: Imagine improvement that happened in the off season, and how

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, though, oh Joe, theoretically Archie Manau

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Speaker 2: This will be a junior year. Yeah, remember he's a sophomore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you also have to be careful, especially at

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Speaker 7: Have you been?

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Speaker 4: Like I like using the word polished because you can

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Speaker 2: Or second they can pull a power move. Are you

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Speaker 4: You know where you can be okay, that has somewhat

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Speaker 1: MOCHORID doesn't matter if you're ready, somebody's about to have

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Speaker 4: But you've got to think about some quarterbacks that are

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Speaker 5: The third string with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: He got beat out.

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Speaker 1: What you meant it was they sold Brock pretty beat

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just imagine what would have happened if they don't

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Speaker 1: You can't that draft, Oh Joe, you can't trade all

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Speaker 4: he that bad? Maybe Purty was that good? Now, no

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Speaker 4: disrespect to party. Yeah look look look look what's surrounding him?

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Speaker 4: Come on now and guess.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'm just curious we all talking.

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I could give you the same ingredients did

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Speaker 1: You can't make it work like they make it work?

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Speaker 2: Right right right? Right?

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Speaker 5: Perty was a better fit?

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Speaker 2: Purty was. I don't think he better.

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Speaker 5: if that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Jones pulled that, you know what bull crap. He looked great,

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Speaker 4: he looked good, he looked decent. He looked like a

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Speaker 4: damn if you run in the office like this and

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Speaker 4: it ain't that bad.

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Speaker 2: What was the province down there in San Francisco. I

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I just I think the

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Speaker 2: That's your future a lot.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, it was really tough. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think Rock Party really saved John Lynchend

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Speaker 2: Tom? But it's gonna be it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting to see how the forty

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Speaker 1: Perty is gonna want fifty million.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell you what you want. I'm not

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Speaker 5: It ain't about what he wants.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: If they gonna do something he can get, he can get.

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Speaker 2: I doubt I doubt Sam dnld. They never went to

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Speaker 4: I think he'll probably get somewhat of a bigger Mayfield

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Speaker 4: Or does he have to have players that are good

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of quarterback that they're not.

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Speaker 1: There are not a lot of quarterbacks that are forced

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Speaker 5: No, because even have done it in Carolina or New York.

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Speaker 4: Okay, then so look what happens when you put him

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Speaker 4: that could be the gym's argument, and the agent in

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Speaker 4: go and play the way you've played with us outside

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Speaker 4: when everybody got hurt. True, but back to this, uh

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Speaker 1: Definitely, Ryan Day definitely gets the monkey off his back,

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Speaker 1: Take in order for us to stay up here because

441
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 1: other teams they're gonna try to regroup. Georgia's like, uh uh,

442
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't like this feeling. You know, your Alabama's your Texas.

443
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 7: Uh.

444
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: You know, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think

445
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 1: SORR signed a new seven year deal.

446
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 7: Yeah.

447
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 1: Uh these teams, you know, everybody is looking to come back.

448
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interested to see how No the name

449
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 1: plays this thing, because you know, they had some success

450
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 1: this year.

451
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how much they spend in the portal.

452
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: But it's gonna come to a point in time, Ojo,

453
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to aay, you gotta do what you

454
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: gotta do. Yeah, it's really if it's really, it's really

455
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: that simple, old You gotta do what you gotta do.

456
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 5: You got you gotta put your money with my fists.

457
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: You gotta put your money where your buyfields. And these

458
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: big time programs they got fifteen twenty million dollars thirty

459
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen twenty twenty five million dollars.

460
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 2: Hey, yea, I need a quarterback. It's gonna cost me

461
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: in one to two million dollars. I need a top back,

462
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 2: top running back.

463
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: That's gonna cost me four to six hundred top flight

464
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: receiver sixty million, a d Lineman line back.

465
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 2: Ay, bro, it's gonna cost you.

466
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: And oh, you're talking about an eighteen nineteen year old,

467
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, that's gonna have six hundred, seven hundred million dollars.

468
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 5: Out of the gate.

469
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: Gate somebody being able to secure your family a head

470
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 4: start in security your family, Yes, a hand start, you.

471
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 1: Know, mama, A damning projects. We ain't in the projects,

472
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: no more. We ain't in section ain't no more, Mama,

473
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: no mama got three. We about to get three four

474
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: bad rooms with a garage.

475
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 5: And it's so funny how the landscape of the NFL,

476
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 5: I mean the NFL.

477
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 4: It's so funny how the landscape of collegiate football has changed,

478
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 4: especially for the power of five schools, especially when you

479
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 4: have certain boosters that are willing to spend to ensure

480
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 4: that you can win.

481
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 5: Everything is paid the plate.

482
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: Oh yo, baby, lead that they could lead that student athlete,

483
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: issh along now and that's student that a this pay

484
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: for play. These guys making money now, yeah, all that

485
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: the student athletes. And I'm going to get an education. Okay,

486
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: that'll be nice. That that'll be nice if you get

487
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: that along the way. But uh, fall back on it's

488
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: something nice. But he like this kid from Michigan that

489
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: got twelve and a half million.

490
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 4: Hey, I have a question on time out come. Are

491
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 4: they exaggerating the numbers or is it really well? It

492
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 4: is a really tendanty got he got some other perks too, Uh,

493
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 4: who is that? What's the guy that at Oracle Larry Ellison?

494
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: His wife went to Michigan and so he kepped being

495
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: He's like whatever it takes to get this kid let's gee.

496
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 4: You see what happened and you have alumni like that.

497
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 4: Now that yeah, he's a third what is he the

498
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 4: third riches I think he's the third richest man in

499
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: the world. It wasn't than twenty billion. Man was twelve

500
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: what's twelve million dollars than him?

501
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: Nothing.

502
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: So even if I did, if I did ten percent,

503
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: even if I did five percent, that's like, that's like,

504
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: that's like one hundred thousand, that's like a thousand dollars

505
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: to me, and you twelve million is him, It's like

506
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars to you or not?

507
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: Right, he ain't missing that, not.

508
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: A chance because he wanted he wants his uh, he

509
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: wants to see his program or his wife program succeed.

510
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: But this is where we are now, Joe, this student

511
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: athlete bullgeie. It's never been that. It's always been that,

512
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: but it was always hush hush okay, Hey yeah, I

513
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: get you this charger, this challenge, this cat pack, this

514
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: you know this, you know what I'm saying, what hey,

515
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: this cat pack, I get you this SRG eight, I

516
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: get you to know, I get you this hell cat.

517
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying. It was that going on. It

518
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: was the Backwood deals. All of a sudden, Damn, how y'all,

519
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: bro y'all was just at the project with us. How

520
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: y'all in this three bedroom cross Town. Now, yeah, now

521
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: everything is above the board, guy, and it ain't no

522
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: more challenges.

523
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: Guys, driving ferraris than Lambeau. You see what your doer had.

524
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 5: But see listen, you gotta you gotta you gotta be

525
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: one of them. Now you gotta be one.

526
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 4: Yes, if you one of them, you could already start

527
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: your NFL career. And the image is if you already

528
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 4: made it, you got to be him.

529
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: Yes.

530
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: So you know these the top, the top guys, they're

531
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: gonna be getting you know, three four million dollars a year.

532
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: Arch many gonna be baking for five million. He's a made.

533
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: He probably have made ten eleven million dollars on yo,

534
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: are ready? And you know, hey, he come from you

535
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: know Cooper, Cooper ain't payting an ELI. But he ain't hurting, No,

536
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: ain't hurting at all. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

537
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: he's stashing all his money.

538
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: And I just hope guys that are getting this money

539
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: they're getting very sound financial advice, because that's taxes you're

540
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: in that bracket.

541
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: You make up with four hundred thousand. You in that bracket, bracket,

542
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: in that bracket.

543
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: Day.

544
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: So in other words, you made two hundred thousand, You

545
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: didn't make four hundred. You make two hundred because uncle

546
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: say I want his cut. Uncle say, I'm the only

547
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: guy that don't go to work and get half your money. Yeah,

548
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: and he don't play too.

549
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 5: If he don't, if he don't get it, if you

550
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 5: don't get it, if he don't get it, he's gonna

551
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 5: knocking your door down the line.

552
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: Oh he gonna get it. It's just a matter of fact.

553
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: When do he get it?

554
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 1: Because he already know what you got because they can

555
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: see everything, like, oh, you ain't got it like you

556
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: used to have it. Huh okay, Oh oh you know

557
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: interest because they put that compound interest on your ass.

558
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: Oh you can't pay it, And guess what, We're gonna

559
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: just put the interest on it until you do pay

560
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: it all back. Now, they they when they owe you,

561
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: they give you a little bit of interest you owe them,

562
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: they compound that interest. So but congratulations to the buck eyes.

563
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: So you saw the br Bryce Harper was there. He's

564
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: a big Ohio State fan. Two times n L m

565
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: VP Lebron was there. A lot of the stars were out. Uh,

566
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: it's kind of not my thing, uh to go. Like

567
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: I said, I don't really know anybody that's playing college football.

568
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm not a big you know, I like college football,

569
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: but I mean me going to a game, It's not

570
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: like the NBA for me, O Joe. Like I said,

571
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: if I had a friend, somebody had a son that's playing, Okay, yeah,

572
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: I go check it out.

573
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm a root for yeah yeah right.

574
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: If I mean tonight, I mean I would I would

575
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 4: have loved I would have loved to go to go

576
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: to the game. Obviously I would have been able to

577
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 4: watch Brian Clark's son. I would have been able to

578
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 4: watch him play. Actually actually being able to watch Jeremiah Smith.

579
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 4: It would it would have been nice to play. But

580
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: just going to a game, you know, you know, experience

581
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 4: the atmosphere, just to watch two players that I can

582
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: watch it home on TV.

583
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's I love crime.

584
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: If Colorado in the National Championship game, I would have went,

585
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah. But other than that, now it was

586
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: O Joe without any further Ado. I'd like to welcome

587
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: is about We're gonna welcome to Michael Jenkins. He's a

588
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: caesar or real estate development investor, custom home designer as

589
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: well as chief operator, officer and owner of three D

590
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: Vision and unfortunately OJO he was involved in a disgusting

591
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: racial profiling act outside of his own home.

592
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: And so welcome Mikey. Congratulations to your Buck guys. Well done.

593
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: I know you, so I'm surprised you you got on

594
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: your your Buck guy shirt. But congratulations to your Buck guys.

595
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: To you and I think that's if that's your wife. Yeah, yeah,

596
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: congratulations man, Thank you for joining us.

597
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: Mike. If you can go back, I know it was

598
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: a November and here we are in late January.

599
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: If you can recount the events as you remember as

600
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: vivid as you possibly can.

601
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can remember. It wasn't too long ago. I

602
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 7: was leaving one of my real estate job sites in

603
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 7: the Inner City. Wrapping it up for today is about

604
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 7: five fifteen to me, about forty five minutes to get

605
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 7: I'm proud to go home saying. It's something I want

606
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 7: you to know is when they say it's an affluent neighborhood,

607
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 7: it's one of the most wealthy neighborhoods in the Ohio. Wow, congrats,

608
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 7: And my house is the best house. And don't talk

609
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 7: about because I come on that I've designed it from

610
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 7: scrap I'm an architectural designer. I bought the land, I

611
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 7: financed the land, designed it from scraps, and I built

612
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 7: it from the ground deck using all my resource. So

613
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 7: proud to come home. I'm pulling up, checking out my

614
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 7: Christmas lights we just put up for the holiday season.

615
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 7: And there happens to be a lady in the driveway

616
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 7: with two kids. So I don't think nothing of it.

617
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 7: Kids coming in in and out of my house all

618
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 7: the time, I got kids, got a family over here.

619
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 7: I'm thinking nothing of it. I think I think she's

620
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 7: looking for the front door. I say, hey, are you

621
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 7: Are you looking for somebody? She doesn't answer. She being

622
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 7: proceeds to go through the porch. So I'm okay, so

623
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 7: she's probably coming over. So I pull in the driveway. Uh,

624
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 7: I'm about to park, and she rings the doorbell and

625
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 7: comes to the front of the front porch and stops

626
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 7: me and says, do you live here? And I said, yeah,

627
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 7: I live here. She said, well I don't think so,

628
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 7: so I well, what are you doing here? She says,

629
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 7: I don't think you live here, kicks the kid, kid up,

630
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 7: drops the stroller, pops off the porch, starts running, and

631
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 7: I hear screaming yelling for help. At that point, now

632
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 7: I'm in fear. I'm in fear because I know what

633
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 7: we face as black man in the mirror. So I

634
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 7: rushed to the garage. Parking the garage, coming to the house.

635
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 7: My wife's in the office. I said, bad, some white,

636
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 7: uh Paucasian lady. She just jumped off our front porch, screaming,

637
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 7: yelling for help. I don't know if she gonna call police.

638
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 7: I'm pacing back and forth. I don't know what's about

639
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 7: to happen. Six pm, regular day. We pac him back

640
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 7: and forth. I don't At this point, I'm like, I

641
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 7: don't know what's about to happen. She comes back before

642
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 7: the police gets here. I don't want to go outside.

643
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 7: I don't want to go outside with them outside and

644
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 7: the police pulls up and we're I don't know what's

645
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 7: going to pop off if police pull up, or to

646
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 7: pay it happened, anything could happen. I know they're going

647
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 7: to tide dun it. So my wife's come outside and

648
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 7: she just wants to wants to figure out what's going

649
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 7: on because she's in shock. And I'll let her say

650
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 7: how she ended up coming outside or whatnot. Okay, would

651
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 7: he come when he came home? And he said, you know,

652
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 7: I was going to ask you. Oh.

653
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: He comes into the house, he says, Babe, there's a

654
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: white lady standing on my on our porch. She's running, yelling, screaming.

655
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is about, and so what's

656
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: going through your mind? When he explains what he just encountered.

657
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 8: I was in my office working and I'm confused.

658
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 9: I'm not understanding what's going on, Like, what do you

659
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 9: mean as a white woman running scroming for help, dreaming

660
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 9: for help for what.

661
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 8: He's like, I don't know, And immediately my I just

662
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 8: heart dropped.

663
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 9: I'm like walking and pacing back and forth like okay,

664
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 9: just wait, just wait, look, okay, well what happened nothing.

665
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 8: I was just pulling in the house and I'm like,

666
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 8: what is she screaming for? He's like I don't know, and.

667
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm like what.

668
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 9: What? And I keep opening up the door because I

669
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 9: feel like the police is gonna come here, somebody is

670
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 9: about to come here, and I don't know what's gonna happen.

671
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 9: I don't even know what fully happened. I didn't hear anything.

672
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 9: I'm in the house working. So she goes and so

673
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 9: I kept opening up the door and that's when I

674
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 9: came out.

675
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 7: So she called.

676
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: So she did end up calling the police.

677
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 8: She did end up calling the police.

678
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Yes, oh okay, So let me ask you a question.

679
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: Now.

680
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: This happened in November. The video just recently got released.

681
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: What called you guys to release because I'm glad this

682
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: is on rereen camera because You're absolutely right. Had this

683
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: not been captured on camera on video, we already know

684
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: the story that was gonna be told and how it

685
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: was gonna be spun.

686
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: But you guys had it on camera. What made you

687
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: guys finally decide to release it?

688
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 8: Well?

689
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 9: I actually released the video in our community Facebook group.

690
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 9: We have a community Facebook group about five hundred or

691
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 9: so people, and it ever since I've been like, we've

692
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 9: been chattered, we've been upset, we've been it's so many

693
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 9: different factors and so many different feelings, so many different feelings.

694
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 9: I hit the video in our community Facebook group to

695
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 9: share what happened and it took a lot for me

696
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 9: to do that, and then we woke up in the

697
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 9: video everywhere.

698
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: You know what's funny, it's one thing that experienced racial

699
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: profiling in public, you know, in public. I'm sure we

700
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: all have stories where it happens in that setting, will

701
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: or to happen in your own home. I mean, it

702
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: can be, it can be unsettling, It could be, it

703
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: can be uncomfortable, especially when it comes to a place

704
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: that you call a place of a place of peace. Yeah,

705
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: well we can all get away from, you know, from

706
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: the outside world. Has that affected your sense sense of

707
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: security and trust in the neighbors and and have you

708
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: reconciled in any way with the neighbor who calls these issues?

709
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 9: Of course there's a lot of trust. Of course, it

710
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 9: makes us feel unwelcome and unsafe. We have two boys,

711
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 9: and he leaves our family. He protects our family. So

712
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 9: to know that we can't go walk the dog or

713
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 9: if someone looking at us is what's gonna happen. It's

714
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 9: a lot of way, it's a lot of pain, and

715
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 9: it's a lot of emotion. I can and he's be

716
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 9: synicized to this.

717
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: I'll still hear it in your voice.

718
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 8: Oh, of course it not once that we got uh.

719
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 9: I thought the next day maybe there would be a

720
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 9: flower of the door or saying a pop. Not once,

721
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 9: how this person unched out to us to give us

722
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 9: a clear apology.

723
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 6: Oh h a, I reached out thea immediately after it happened.

724
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 6: Nobody said anything immediately after it happened. Ho a ghosted me.

725
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: Wow.

726
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: For lack of better words, can I ask you this

727
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: priord to that night, proud to that incident.

728
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 10: Had you ever seen this woman prior to this incident.

729
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 10: I've been in the neighborhood for three years. I built

730
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 10: the house from the ground up. I know the developers

731
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 10: in the neighborhood. I lived in the front of the

732
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 10: neighborhood while I built the house. I walked to the

733
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 10: job site every day.

734
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 7: So have I seen her eye for eye No, I've

735
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 7: walked by her house and seen them on the front porch,

736
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 7: so she's.

737
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 9: Seen when they came, I didn't recognize Goo ahead, ma'am,

738
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 9: go ahead, I.

739
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 8: Didn't recognize them.

740
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 9: But but I was gonna say it's a ninety or

741
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 9: more of the neighborhood is predominantly occasion.

742
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 8: So where one of one black.

743
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 7: Family from the neighborhood, and our house sits all the

744
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 7: way in the back of the neighborhood, and that people

745
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 7: ride by and take pictures every day, and there's a

746
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 7: lot of publicity with our house. So it really was.

747
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 7: It was shocking. But they stay to theyself in the neighborhood.

748
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Will you walk up and

749
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: you ask what can I help you with? And she says,

750
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: is this your house? You say yeah, and she says,

751
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't believe you when someone tells you they're standing

752
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: on your porch and they tell that's not their property,

753
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: and they tell you that this is not your property.

754
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: What went through your mind when someone is standing on

755
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: your porch and they said, well, you don't live here.

756
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 7: Well, that's when I was battle tested as a black net,

757
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 7: as an at then the present. That's you know, had

758
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 7: to transition and learn how to put pride and ego

759
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 7: to the side and control your emotion. Okay, that's when

760
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 7: I kicked in. That was a that was the ultimate

761
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 7: battle test because in my mind, I said, the audacity,

762
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 7: the audacity of her, that was in my mind, but

763
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 7: I could I had to control my emotions in the

764
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 7: moment because I knew where it could have escalated at

765
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, well, what if she what if she had

766
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 7: a gun? What she had been running or what I

767
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 7: have been running?

768
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: Is this a situation? Because now she said, well, you

769
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: have to see it from my point of view. No,

770
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't need to see anything from your point of

771
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: view when you standing your you know what on my porch.

772
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: But for her to say, well, you just say, well,

773
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: I really live here. I live here. I don't have

774
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: to identify myself. This is mine. Why do I have

775
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: to tell you who I am when you standing on

776
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: my property?

777
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 7: It's I mean, it's it's it's it's. It took everything

778
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 7: out of me, you know, not to get out of character.

779
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 7: And especially when they came back. You know, she brought

780
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 7: her husband back. He was stand off.

781
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: I was.

782
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 7: I was scared to go outside, but I said on it.

783
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 7: I was listening. I said, I can't let my wife

784
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 7: sit out here with these people. What if the police

785
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 7: pull up? So you know, I went outside and I

786
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 7: just had to make my face now and I had

787
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 7: to let them know I do live here. A black

788
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 7: man does live here. I did build this house from

789
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 7: the ground up. I did design this house. I had

790
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 7: to show my face, and as soon as I came outside,

791
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 7: you could tell they switched it all the way up.

792
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 7: Let's get out of here, let's go. Uh, they switch

793
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 7: it all the way up.

794
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: When the police arrived, What did the police say? Okay?

795
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 9: What?

796
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 7: What?

797
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: What was the side of the story that they told

798
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: the police? And then what did the police? What was

799
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: the interaction once the authorities arrived.

800
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 7: I hid it in the house. I didn't talk to

801
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 7: the police. I'm not come out there with them. Those

802
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 7: police might gun me down.

803
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: So you let your wife. I hit it in the out,

804
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: so you let your wife.

805
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 7: Have I let her handle that.

806
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

807
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 8: What I made I mean, I made a report. I

808
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 8: made a police report.

809
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 9: It was emotional to make a police report because we

810
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 9: all know what happens and you call the police. So

811
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 9: I had to think to myself, do I go outside

812
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 9: and start Do I let them come inside?

813
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: Do I sit up?

814
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 8: Do I sand down? Do I let my son? Do

815
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 8: I let my son be st in here? How do

816
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 8: I explain this end?

817
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 9: And even explaining and sharing that this lady racially profiled

818
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 9: as she ran from her house, framing there's no telling

819
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 9: what people can think. My son came home from work

820
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 9: who's seventeen and said, Mom, what about taking out the trash?

821
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 8: What if she had a gun?

822
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: What are the like?

823
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 8: What's the whole? Are the police here?

824
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 5: That's crazy?

825
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 8: Hey, this but I knew I haven't made the report.

826
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 5: And despite the difficulties of the situation you've been through, you.

827
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: Guys, or are you guys moving forward with reclaiming your

828
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 4: sense of safety being that it is home and in

829
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: any way despite them not you know, giving sincere apologies

830
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: or letting you know that.

831
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: We welcome you here in our home, especially Hioa and

832
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: the neighbor it selves.

833
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: Do you still have hope and motivation to keep sharing

834
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: your story from this point on for others that might

835
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: encounter these situations in ways they can prevent things from

836
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: happening and being able to de escalate those situations.

837
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 7: Uh. I have nothing against their family, but I grew

838
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 7: up dealing with this all the time. So we still

839
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 7: have to live here. They live two streets. Oh, we

840
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 7: have to ride by each other's house. Uh. I'm okay

841
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 7: with being cordial with riding by each other's house. Uh,

842
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 7: have no issue with them.

843
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

844
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 7: The issue is getting a worried out here and letting

845
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 7: my situation and what I've been through and what I

846
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 7: overcome be inspiring to people in the world, people that

847
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 7: look like me. So I'm that's the space I'm in,

848
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 7: and I'm thankful for God because I didn't ask for

849
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 7: her to show up on my porch. This is God's

850
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 7: movement here, This is God telling me that people need

851
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 7: to hear your story. You need to inspire, You need

852
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 7: to tell people what's going on and use this so

853
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 7: that hopefully this won't happen to the next person or

854
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 7: the next person that comes across the Karen situation, they

855
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 7: will know how to control their emotion. Because us, as

856
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 7: black man, especially young black men, we struggled with that,

857
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 7: We struggled with that impulse, with that that acting we have.

858
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 7: We we think irrationally and we never think rationally. So

859
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 7: I'm here to inspire people. I'm a real estate developer.

860
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 7: I build houses from the ground up, single family houses.

861
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 7: But I thought that moving into the most wealthiest neighborhood

862
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 7: in Ohio, that this was the right thing to do.

863
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: But maybe.

864
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 7: My focus needs to be build communities that's for us

865
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 7: and buy us so that we can inspire people that

866
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 7: looks like us. We can we can build a community.

867
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 5: That's for us.

868
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: Can ask your question. You said something very interesting. You said,

869
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: she lives two streets up from you. So you mean

870
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: to tell me she went two streets out of her

871
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 1: way to try to find out who lived in this home.

872
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: Not on your streets, not on your not on your streets,

873
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: not on your block, not next to you. Two streets.

874
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 7: It's too streets up, but it's she's all the way north,

875
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 7: we're all the way down. It's more time, million dollar

876
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 7: house back here. The lots are big, so it's two streets,

877
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 7: but it's still we can go thirty days, sixty ninety

878
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 7: days without seeing each other.

879
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: So she went out of her way. Let me ask

880
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: you this. She she issued an apology.

881
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: She also said that she reached out to you and

882
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: tried to apologize multiple times, but she hasn't had a

883
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: response from you. Has she tried to Did she apologiy

884
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: to apologize to you in person, or was it through

885
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: this video that you guys have seen.

886
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 9: She has not tried to apologize as a person, be

887
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 9: a phone, via knock at the door, via a phone

888
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 9: called bea email. Note only the live videos.

889
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: Now, apparently, if we were to believe what the report

890
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: says that this woman has a history going back as

891
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: far as twenty eighteen of creating these situations and then

892
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: making herself out to be a victim.

893
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: Have you guys seen that.

894
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: Have y'all seen any of those reports that's being circulated.

895
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm not that I have not seen And to ask

896
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: you this, I want to ask you this.

897
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Have you thought about since your privacy your security, have

898
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: you thought about potentially even leaving that neighborhood and going

899
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: elsewhere or you saying, now, y'all not going to run

900
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: us up out our home.

901
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 7: One percent. I've been in Ohio my whole life, and

902
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 7: I faced racial discrimination at its highest peak. I'm a

903
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 7: stereo type person, tattoos, dreadlock, a man that's in the

904
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 7: professional world, in the real estate development world that you

905
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 7: don't see too many minorities building multi million dollar home

906
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 7: It doesn't have to hear. So we one hundred percent

907
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 7: have thought about moving to another state, taking my talents elsewhere,

908
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 7: building a community to go on places where we could

909
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 7: be surrounded by more people that look like us.

910
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: Man, So let me ask you a question. What was

911
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: your relationship with the neighborhood.

912
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: Did you have any interaction with your neighbors, like to

913
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: the left of you, in front of you, to the

914
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: back of you. What's the neighborhood like, I know it's

915
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned it's a very affluent neighborhood.

916
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: There's a lot of there are wealthy people that live there.

917
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: You mentioned million dollar homes.

918
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: What's the relationship with you in the community other than

919
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: with this said individual.

920
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 7: Is So it's the wealthiest neighborhood. And they got it,

921
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 7: saying that once she reached a certain tax practice, race

922
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 7: doesn't matter.

923
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: That's a lie. So it's a lie. But people say that.

924
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: People say that.

925
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 7: So everybody out here, most majority of people out here,

926
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 7: they walk every day, they take pictures of her house,

927
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 7: they say hi. You can ask people in the neighborhood.

928
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 7: Those people are not friendly. They don't say hi, they

929
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 7: don't take too many walks, they don't walk their dog,

930
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 7: they stay in their house. They are staying off. So

931
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 7: the neighborhood is friendly, but I don't know about them.

932
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 7: She says something big. God, go ahead, ma'am.

933
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 8: I was just fun to say.

934
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 9: We participate in community events and you know, for the

935
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 9: most part, the neighborhood is friendly. She posted videos after

936
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 9: this happened and the neighbors brought it to us because

937
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 9: they picked two and two together. So that's how we

938
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 9: even found out that they knew about it.

939
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: She mentioned to you as you was walking up. You

940
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: have to see her point of view. She's walking her kids,

941
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: is late at night. If you're that afraid, why are

942
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: you out at night walking your kids? If you afraid

943
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: as you say you are, did you like did that

944
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: cross your mind? Like, well, if you say you're afraid,

945
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: why you out here the dark by yourself? You're married,

946
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: your husband's not with you, and you got a small child.

947
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: So it can't be that dangerous. You can't be that

948
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: fearful of your life if you choose at night to

949
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: walk a child.

950
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 8: It's six o'clock in age, it getting dark early.

951
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 7: But yeah, we thought about that.

952
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 9: Of course I wouldn't be out all right walk in

953
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 9: with no no, no, not at all, especially if you

954
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 9: you know, have been through things or whatever, like I'm

955
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 9: not walking that night period.

956
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

957
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 8: It is as simple as that.

958
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 9: And as soon as someone tell me that's their house,

959
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 9: all better off. Okay, Look, you know, if you're scared

960
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 9: and you walk walk home, I said, I don't know.

961
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: I guess I just look at things differently. I've really

962
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: never walked by somebody house, Oh you live here? Or

963
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: definitely I'm not standing on somebody's porch and asking this

964
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: is this their home?

965
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: If they drive up. I'm in the neighborhood.

966
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: I see somebody in the driveway or somebody on the porch,

967
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: I throw my hand up.

968
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: I keep it moving.

969
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stand on someone's ports and ask

970
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: them if they live here. That's none of my concern,

971
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: not just me. Maybe I'm maybe I don't think I'm

972
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: unique in that. Guys, Oh, we ain't know pray, we

973
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: ain't nosy like that. Though, we ain't nosey like that. Man,

974
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: we see somebody, maybe we turns up the deuce, we

975
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: say hello, and we keep it moving. The first thing

976
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: we say we see a night house boy. That thing

977
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: that I'm saying, it right, and we keep it moving.

978
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: It it ain't out business. You mentioned that you have

979
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old son, and as black, we have

980
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: to have that conversation with our black young men. Is

981
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: that we always it's always yes sir, no sir, it's yes, ma'am,

982
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: no ma'am. When you pulled get pulled over. Look, hey,

983
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: just be as light as you possibly can, because your

984
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: job is to get that man or that woman to

985
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: your car, back to their car and on their way

986
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: as quick as that you possibly can. It's not about

987
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: you know all this and all that. We'll fight it

988
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: in court. Whatever it is that they said I was speeding,

989
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: if I was improper lane change, I don't have a

990
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: tail light, or what ready driving. Let's go to court.

991
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: We could argue it in front of a judge, in

992
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: front of twelve people. I can't argue. I got to

993
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: have you make it home. Have you had to have

994
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: that talk with him? Have you had it already or

995
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: did you have to have that talk with him immediately

996
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: after this incident?

997
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely, it was. It was emotional, and you know,

998
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 8: it was multiple talk. It was multiple talks.

999
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 9: And even with days where it's like, you know what,

1000
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 9: I don't know if you shop all flide and walk

1001
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 9: our dogs, let me see, make sure you go out

1002
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 9: before it gets thart.

1003
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 8: It's a lot of weight. It's a lot of weight.

1004
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: You've received a lot of overwhelming support for social media though,

1005
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's been on your side and the social

1006
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: media has come to your defense, and like the way

1007
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: the way you handle it, and you mentioned your situation

1008
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: having made some decisions in your previous when you were

1009
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: younger and you learned, and you said, look, I gotta

1010
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: channel this. I'm not I'm not gonna give them the ability.

1011
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: It says, I'm angry, and I have every right to

1012
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: be angry because I'm in dead.

1013
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: I'm in the right here.

1014
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: But nobody cares about that because all they're going to

1015
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: look as you as a black man, look at your

1016
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: history and bring that into the equation when it had

1017
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: nothing to do with this woman standing on your porch.

1018
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: If you could people, people gonna watch this, this is

1019
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: gonna get picked up. If you could say, if what

1020
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: would you want people to know about you, your family

1021
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: and how you handle this situation.

1022
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 7: I'm a black man in America. That's overcame every obstacle

1023
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 7: that could be thrown at you, growing up, making bad decisions,

1024
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 7: being around the wrong people, and being given a second

1025
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 7: chance to transition, raising a family, being married. My seventeen

1026
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 7: year old, I've been there since he was six months.

1027
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 7: This is this is this is my It's my son,

1028
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 7: but he's not my biological I've raised him as he's

1029
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 7: my son. I have an eight year old as well.

1030
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 7: I'm here to inspire people, to show people that control

1031
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 7: your emotion. Control your emotion, that's that's that's one of

1032
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 7: the most powerfulst things that a man can do, because

1033
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 7: a dangerous man is a man that can't control his emotion.

1034
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 7: So a situation like this that's broadcasting across the world,

1035
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 7: you can see that I was given every single reason

1036
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 7: to act and I still control my emotions. So I

1037
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 7: want to use this moment, this, these platforms to inspire people,

1038
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 7: lead people, and to show them what a real man

1039
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 7: is and what a real man is supposed to do.

1040
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 7: You take care of your family, protect your family, control

1041
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 7: your emotions, and that's what we're here to do. And

1042
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 7: also build communities. I want to build houses from the

1043
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 7: ground up. I want to build communities. I want to

1044
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 7: design high end luxury homes. These are things that I

1045
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 7: want to do that I got a passion forward that

1046
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 7: it's in my bloodline custom custom home builds. My grandpa

1047
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 7: was a custom home designer and builder. These are things

1048
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 7: that I want to take to the next level and

1049
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 7: be known for and show people that in the real

1050
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 7: estate industry that we can strive, we can survive, and

1051
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 7: we can do what they do and even bad.

1052
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm here for. Do you have a

1053
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: sense or when or if you'll ever get your normalcy back?

1054
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: Because your life has been interrupted. You didn't ask for this,

1055
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: but as you mentioned before, God don't put on any

1056
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: more of that's from what we can handle. He chose you,

1057
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: He chose you for a reason, and the way you

1058
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: handled yourself in that situation, I'm not so sure a

1059
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: lot of us. Because she went out of her way.

1060
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: She had no business on your porch to begin with you.

1061
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: If she didn't think you lived there, she could ask

1062
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: that question from the street. You don't bring your tail

1063
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: on someone that's front porch and then ask them that's

1064
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: not your place. I can see if you were at

1065
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: her house and you're asking for a direction and you're like,

1066
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: are you lost?

1067
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: You need help?

1068
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: She's in your she's on your property. Did you think

1069
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: about pressing charges for trespassing?

1070
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 7: We did, and they threw it under the rug. They

1071
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 7: filed a police That was nothing that we told them.

1072
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 7: We asked for the police report. They never gave it

1073
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 7: to us. We had to track them down to get

1074
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 7: the police report and looked at it. It was vague.

1075
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 7: We thought about pressing charges. We did all that. I thought.

1076
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 7: She gave me every right. She's on my profence, that's

1077
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 7: self defense. I could have done them down, but I

1078
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 7: had to hold my composed you as a man for

1079
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 7: my family, because even though it was self defense, it

1080
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 7: could have been self defense, not for a black man,

1081
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 7: not for us.

1082
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: Wow, the Michael, thank you for sharing your story with us.

1083
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. You handled that thing very well.

1084
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: To your wife, what's your name, ma'am Brittany, You and

1085
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: the Michael handled it very very well. I'm not so

1086
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: sure very many people would have handled it with the

1087
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: class and with the poise that you did. You did

1088
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: everything right, and even though you did everything right, it

1089
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: seems like everything is gone wrong. She was wrong for

1090
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Speaker 1: coming on to your property. The authorities seem to be

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00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: wrong for how they've handled this situation. Hopefully you get

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Speaker 1: the clarity, you get the judgment, the respect that you

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00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: deserve in this situation because you did everything right and seemingly,

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00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: as of right now, things have gone wrong. Hopefully, the

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00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: Nightcap family, everybody that's in this chat, we're praying for

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Speaker 1: you that you get your sense of peace, you get

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00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: your sense of normalcy and you get everything that you

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00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: deserve back tenfold because just talking to you, you're a

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00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: good man, writteny, you're a good woman, y'all, a great family, yes,

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Speaker 1: and you're doing the right thing. So I tip my

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Speaker 1: hat to you for the way you handle this situation

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00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: and continue to be blessed. God's gonna continue to bless

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00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: you because you're a good man and you do great

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00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: things for the community. And I want to thank you,

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00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: oh Cho and I Nightcap family want to thank you

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00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: for sharing your story with us.

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00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: We're greatly, greatly appreciated.

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00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: This is gonna go out and you're gonna get an

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00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: outpouring of support, and it still wouldn't be enough for

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00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: what you guys went through, But I thank you for

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00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: sharing your story here with us on Nightcap. Continue to

1112
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: be blessed, continue success, and we'll talk to you soon

1113
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: down the road. Appreciating Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I will go on.

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Speaker 8: I thank you.

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00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: Guys. Oh suo or not.

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00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: We trt to try to tell you when when we

1118
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: started this, our job was to inform you, to educate you,

1119
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: to entertain you, and sometimes things is not about It's

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00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: not about entertainment. This is not entertaining for us, but

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00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: we felt that we needed to bring this story, we

1122
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: need to give it even even more light. And when

1123
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: I was approached by you know, would you like to

1124
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: have this couple on, I said absolutely, And I just

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00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: told him, I said, look, we're coming on late, We're

1126
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: coming on after the game, and so they'd be in

1127
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: the second block. And they said, we don't care. We

1128
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: want to share this story. We want to share it

1129
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: on your platform. And so this is what we try

1130
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, yeah, we're a sports show, but

1131
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: we talk about sports, we talk about culture, we talk

1132
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: about finance. All we try to do is shared positive

1133
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: like some things are not a positive, but we want

1134
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: to show you. We want to show our community that

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00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: good can come out of a situation like this. And

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00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: the way he handle it, Like I said, don't yo,

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00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that very many people you standing on

1138
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: my front porch asking me do I live here?

1139
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't know who does, but I just know you don't.

1140
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, A lot of times you have

1141
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: to think about it, especially when it comes to home,

1142
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 4: when it comes to a safety in someone's property.

1143
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 5: Most of the time they meet fire with fire.

1144
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 4: Yes, they're not really that well, that well trained or

1145
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 4: verse in de escalating situations. Like Also, another problem that

1146
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 4: most of us have is we love challenging authority because

1147
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 4: we know our rights, you know, instead of having the mindset, Well,

1148
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 4: I tell my kids all the time, you have the

1149
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 4: mindset you want to go home exactly your in goal.

1150
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 5: Whether you know all your rights, well, you know everything,

1151
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 5: I don't care. You want to go home at the

1152
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 5: end of the day.

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Speaker 2: That's it, you know.

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00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 4: But I think if we get to a point where

1155
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 4: we understand that even though we know our rights, we

1156
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: know everything and try to do everything a by the book.

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00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, you want to get

1158
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 5: home to your family.

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Speaker 4: In black man, white man, black kid, I mean, whatever,

1160
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 4: whatever it may be, learn to de escalate situations. You

1161
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 4: don't always have the challenge authority because you you want

1162
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 4: to show you smarter and you know this, you know

1163
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 4: that at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

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00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 4: I just want to get home to my kids, and

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go into my family.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Sometimes you can be in the right and

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00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: not be right. Yeah he was in the right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he knows how this was going to play out.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe he read. And I meant to ask

1171
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: him then, and she said she shared it with the

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Speaker 1: with the with the Facebook community.

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Speaker 2: Had she not?

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00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: Had the lady not got on there and started lying

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00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: and tried to make it seem like she was the victim.

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Speaker 1: They just wanted this to go away. They wanted to

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Speaker 1: go back to their normal life. She interrupted that she

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00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: interrupted their peace, and not for a good reason. They

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00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: said she lived two streets to the north. They're in

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00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: the back to the south, so you gotta go out

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00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: of your way. What it was, Ojo, that big house.

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00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: I know, ain't no black man pulling over to this house.

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00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: Why you care?

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00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta pay one bill, no water, not gas,

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00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: not likeing I phoned that property tax or nothing?

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00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: Why you care?

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00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 7: Me?

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00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: A part of a part of me, A part of me.

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Speaker 1: I understand that it's normalcy and it's peace, and it's

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Speaker 1: safety has been impacted. But I kind of don wanted

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00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: to move. I think that's kind of what they want

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00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: him to do because they mentioned that they might be

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Speaker 1: one on one in that neighborhood, and they got the

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00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: biggest lot in that neighborhood, and they kind of want

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Speaker 1: him out.

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Speaker 2: N I ain't going nowhere, y'all leave, I ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 2: This is mine. I bought this.

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Speaker 1: And then they said they've been getting the run around

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Speaker 1: from the authorities and have I don't know what a

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00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: cho a do anyway. They full of car car. They

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00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: don't do nothing. That's just another way. That's just another

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00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: way to get one hundred and fifty two undre threehundred

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Speaker 1: dollars a month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to do what Hell, I can cut the grass

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00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: myself at the front of the entrance. Hell, y'all talking here.

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Speaker 1: Y'all talked about y'all taking up three hundred dollars a

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00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: month from everybody and what y'all doing with that money?

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00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: Light stay out for two three weeks, uh man.

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Speaker 1: But I am I'm so glad that we ever to

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00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: get Brittany and Demichael long he goes by Mikey. I'm

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00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: glad we were able to get that family on Nightcap.

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Speaker 1: This is what we try to do, Oho and I.

1213
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: We try to bring you know, we try to whether

1214
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: it's stories like this, or there's an athlete or whatever

1215
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: the case may be. We just try to give you

1216
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: the best show that we possibly can on a given night.

1217
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: And this was supposed to be a very routine night

1218
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: talk about the National Championship game. There's some other sports

1219
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: stories that's circulating. But when the opportunity and it just

1220
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: goes to show you Ojo, because the person reached out

1221
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: to me and there's like a A h I'm gonna

1222
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: ask you something. I was like, yeah, what's your what's up?

1223
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: She's like, uh, would you like to have the couple

1224
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: on that you and Ojo talked about. There's like they

1225
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: saw this, they saw your story. I was like really,

1226
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: there's like yeah, and they want they want to share

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00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: it with you.

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I called Ash, I said, ask guess what. She's like

1230
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: what I said, because she always asked you what? I said, Uh,

1231
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: you know the couple we were talking about in that

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00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: video last night. They want gonna come and share the story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. She's like really. I was like yeah, and you

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01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: know all what you like?

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Speaker 1: I said, we're on the East coast, it's gonna be

1236
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: late there in Ohio, and it's like it doesn't matter.

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01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: We want to come home yeah and be able to

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01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: have it.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, man, listen to the story is inspiring.

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: Which we also have to understand is situations like this

1241
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 4: has been going on for a very long time.

1242
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 5: Situations, situations like this are going to continue.

1243
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 4: To happen, So they're telling their story and also inspiring

1244
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 4: people and understanding his background and his history and how

1245
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: far he's coming. Being able to transition and getting a

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01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: second chance but most of us aren't afforded, can also

1247
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 4: prevent those that might get that one chance where it's

1248
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 4: in a situation where you know, everybody ain't getting no

1249
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 4: second chance.

1250
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody ain't geting no second chance.

1251
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 4: So being able to do a few situations to de

1252
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 4: escalate situations and having rife steate of mind, you know

1253
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 4: in place when stuff like this happens. You know, maybe

1254
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 4: not to this magnetude, but in another scenario, you got

1255
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: to be on point. You got to be on point

1256
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 4: at all times. So they're gonna test you now.

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01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I took a lot of a lot of

1258
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: from that because, like you said, he could have reacted

1259
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: in such a way that wouldn't been beneficial to his family,

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01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: and it definitely would have been beneficial to the woman

1261
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: that invaded his privacy and it's his space. But I'm

1262
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: glad he handled the situation the way he handled it,

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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: So thank you. Mikey and Brittany for sharing your story

1264
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: with us on Nightcap, and we wish you the best

1265
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: down the line. The volume