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Speaker 2: Who has it better than we do? Nody, buddy, nobody, nobody.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Our two, We'll talk to Clark Kellogg from CBS.

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Speaker 2: We'll recap what happened last night and look ahead to

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Speaker 2: tonight's matchups as you had NC State Marquette on the

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Speaker 2: agenda tonight, gun Zaga, Purdue, Duke, Houston, Creighton, Tennessee, Yukon,

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Speaker 2: Illinois Advance, Clemson beats Arizona and Alabama drops North Carolina

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Speaker 2: but Any America, the official trading cards of The Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show. I don't know if we had anything that

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Speaker 2: stood out of note from opening day opening night. I

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Speaker 2: kind of flipped around a little bit and I watched

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Speaker 2: the Rangers and the Cubs last night for a little while.

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Speaker 2: Watched the Padres as well. There was a moment where

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Speaker 2: Manny Machado pops up and he's trying to break the

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Speaker 2: bat over his knee and he doesn't do it, and

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Speaker 2: you can see it. I mean, he's trying to do

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Speaker 2: his Bo Jackson impersonation and he's like so upset. He

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Speaker 2: takes the bat and he's like oh and it reverberates

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Speaker 2: all the way up through his eyes and you can

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Speaker 2: just see him where it's like that's a big mistake.

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Speaker 3: You go watch it, like go up his spine, threw

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Speaker 3: his shoulders and out his neck.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like don't limp. He better be in the lineup.

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Speaker 2: If they're playing today, he better be in the lineup today.

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Speaker 2: They can't say, well, he's got a knee contusion. But

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Speaker 2: all he kind of makes the commitment and then halfway

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Speaker 2: down goes, I'm not gonna make the commitment like Bo Johnson,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he does just enough

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Speaker 2: where it's like, oh man, that hurts. Yeah, yeah see

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Speaker 2: and not for nothing.

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Speaker 3: But you can't be so frustrated already on opening day

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Speaker 3: that you need to try to break your bat over

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Speaker 3: your knee. That was fifth inning, fifth inning of the

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Speaker 3: first game of the seedon Buddy, you got a long

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Speaker 3: way to go.

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Speaker 2: You can't already be break the bat frustrated. That's like

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Speaker 2: September movea yes, Ton, and if.

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Speaker 4: You take the ad way, his last name is Macho,

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Speaker 4: which was not what happened.

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Speaker 2: Just thank you, Ton. Don't miss the biggest WrestleMania in history.

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Speaker 2: Cody Rhodes Roman reigns the Rock WrestleMania forty. It's so big.

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Speaker 2: It's two days April sixth and seventh. They even have

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Speaker 2: a kickoff show exclusively on Peacock, which is where you'll

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Speaker 2: find this program. Alrighty Seaton, Uh pull question for hour two.

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Speaker 3: Uh, let's go to a wrestling match.

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Speaker 2: Let's throw it on the bucket list. Last three years

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Speaker 2: bucket listed. Okay, Now do I try to get into

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Speaker 2: the ring. No, I don't want you get hurt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want you to get at what Maybe

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Speaker 3: you could be like Captain Lou Albano, like be a

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Speaker 3: corner guy.

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Speaker 2: You get out there and you're like the hype man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're fighting though not well McAfee does this. Does he

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Speaker 2: actually fight guys when he gets into the ring? He does?

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Speaker 5: He gets in there?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't want to. I mean I want

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Speaker 2: to get in there, but I want to yell at

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Speaker 2: somebody or you know, cause a little skirmish and then

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Speaker 2: I run out of the ring.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, we know the Miss pretty well. It's been

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Speaker 6: on the show a couple of times. He's a fan

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Speaker 6: of yours. What if you said you're a cornerman for

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Speaker 6: the Miss? He's high end wrestling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be willing to be a hype guy. I

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Speaker 2: don't have to rub his shoulders or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Do I like to get him ready?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 9: Mark, I think SmackDown's in Harder Connecticut tonight WWE.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's short notice. You could cut a promo.

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Speaker 2: Can you get in character that fast? Well, i'd have

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Speaker 2: to shave my chest. No, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 5: You can wear a suit like Bobby.

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking off my shirt.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you want to, you can.

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Speaker 3: You canna be Dan and fuego Patrick and everything is

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Speaker 3: like fleeing. Let's go until somebody actually lights me on fire.

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Speaker 2: Here comes the hot sauce. Oh my gosh, yes, yes, Tom.

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Speaker 10: Would you let a wrestler put you in a sleeperhole?

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Speaker 10: Didn't Hulk Cogan do that once to like Richard Belzer

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Speaker 10: or something like that and ended up thing like a

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Speaker 10: multimillion dollar lawsuit. He thought he was having a little

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Speaker 10: fun with hul Cogan and he went to a sleeperhole

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Speaker 10: and he like knocked him unconscious, like serious injuries or something.

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Speaker 2: Would you let a wrestler do it to you?

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Speaker 4: I probably would not, but I'm afraid of my own shadow.

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Speaker 4: I would, but you're tough.

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Speaker 2: You know. Why do I want somebody put me in

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Speaker 2: a sleeperhole?

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Speaker 5: That's to say what happened to the story?

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Speaker 2: Unless you have a wrestler named Melatonin, I mean really

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Speaker 2: holded mel mel a Tone, a national baseball writer. Melotonin

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Speaker 2: used to write for USA Today Day. He's gonna put

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Speaker 2: you to sleep. He come out and be you know,

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Speaker 2: like Purple. You know melowtnin pills his walkouts on high school.

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Speaker 2: We're off the rails early today.

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Speaker 5: Man, you should do it.

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Speaker 7: DP.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll do it. Marvin.

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Speaker 5: Oh great, yeah, he said, Well me and the Dan

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Speaker 5: Nets come out.

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Speaker 4: Dan.

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Speaker 5: That's worth Oh you guys aren't there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, I would have you come out with me, absolutely, man,

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Speaker 2: I think you would have to.

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Speaker 5: And you guys been to a wrestling match before.

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Speaker 2: I have not. The last time I was at one.

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Speaker 3: Was nineteen eighty three or four, and I believe it

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Speaker 3: was at Sarahvil High School in New Jersey and mister

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Speaker 3: Fuji was there with Tito Santana. Okay, I think, although

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Speaker 3: I could it was definitely at that school. I might

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Speaker 3: be making up those wrestlers being yeah, though it might

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Speaker 3: be so long ago that I might be imagining that's

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Speaker 3: who I saw, but I definitely saw either mister Fuji

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Speaker 3: or Tito Santana.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I held a grudge against the

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Speaker 2: wrestlers because they refused to say it was scripted, And

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Speaker 2: until they did that, then I wasn't going to go

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Speaker 2: because if they said it was scripted, then I would

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Speaker 2: have been like, Okay, now I'm going to enjoy this.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy threw the dust in somebody's face.

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Speaker 3: Was that mister Fuji, Like he threw like salt in

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Speaker 3: your eyes or something like?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't see. He always did it behind the

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Speaker 2: ref's back. I grew up, I remember watching Bobo Brazil Boss.

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning we had wrestling. And then when I worked

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Speaker 2: at CNN in Atlanta, when you had Ted Turner's wrestling channel,

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Speaker 2: you would hear them. They would they had the stage

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Speaker 2: up upstairs above us, above the news room, and you

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Speaker 2: would hear like guys being thrown down on the canvas

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Speaker 2: and the crowd would come in there. So above us

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Speaker 2: it was on tech Wood, which is where the first

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Speaker 2: building of CNN, and up above us, above the newsroom,

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Speaker 2: you had wrestling going on. Fans would come in.

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Speaker 6: No, so you're kicking it with Sergeant Slaughter.

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Speaker 2: I did see sergeant Slaughter. He was in that league

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Speaker 2: for a while. Yeah, fun era. I did meet Sergeant Slaughter,

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Speaker 2: and I thought I did, Yeah, I think I did.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I said mister Slaughter. Might have been

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Speaker 2: I worked for a living yeah, sergeant, yes, serge yeah,

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Speaker 2: might have been called him sergeant yeah, just serge. Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 6: When when I was little kids, they came out with

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Speaker 6: like action figures. It was like rubbery action figures of

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Speaker 6: you know, Jimmy Snook and then a little before hul Cogan.

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Speaker 6: But it really took over. I thought when Roddy Roddy

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Speaker 6: Piper made into a show. He had Piper's pit and pit,

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Speaker 6: and I don't know what year that was. It was

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Speaker 6: almost like it took the wrestling. The wrestling became secondary

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Speaker 6: to the show, and the show was the star. And

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Speaker 6: that was all Vince McMahon and those guys developing it.

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Speaker 6: But Roddy, Roddy Piper, to me, was the guy who

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Speaker 6: made it into a show.

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Speaker 2: I remember when Hull Cogan came into CNN in New York,

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Speaker 2: into the newsroom and it was bananas. People were coming

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Speaker 2: out of their offices.

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Speaker 5: They like.

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Speaker 2: He came in in character and he was walking around

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Speaker 2: the newsroom and he was being you know, Hulk Hull

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Speaker 2: Comania and you had, you know, respectable journalists there. We're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: oh ho, go go come here, put me in a hold,

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Speaker 2: you know, and you're like, what what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: And I wasn't a wrestling fan, but I understood, you know,

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Speaker 2: the popularity, the magnitude. You know, when you're selling out

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Speaker 2: the Pontiac Silver Dome and you got eighty thousand people

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Speaker 2: in there. All right, I'm taking you seriously, well not seriously,

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Speaker 2: but I'm taking you know, the popularity seriously.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Hun and me and Gene Okerland.

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Speaker 4: He look like the guy with the mustard.

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Speaker 10: He would like treat the interviews like this was like

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Speaker 10: serious journalism arena, what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 6: And that's why it was so good because they were

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Speaker 6: all in on the bit and they sold it so well.

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Speaker 2: I love that that. He was like Mike Wallace sixty minutes,

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Speaker 2: you know, interrogating a foreign desk spot or something, and

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Speaker 2: he's like, so, what do you think you're going to

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Speaker 2: have to do next time when you meet the Undertaker?

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Speaker 2: Mister Kamala, Yes, Mark.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes the promos are more important than the match themselves

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Speaker 9: because you're telling the story. Like guys like the Rock

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Speaker 9: and Stonecoat, Steve Auston, like my era, Triple H all

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Speaker 9: those guys, their promos will be so good. Sometimes like

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Speaker 9: all right, if you do great and ring, fine, but

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Speaker 9: the promo was probably the most important thing. If you

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Speaker 9: were great on the mic, you became a huge star.

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Speaker 2: Well when they came into the Mothership and they filmed

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Speaker 2: those commercials with us and so you had I think

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Speaker 2: the Undertaker was there. Who did I shoot the commercial

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Speaker 2: with Stone Cold Steve Austin, Yeah, he was great. Where

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Speaker 2: I hit him with a folding chair. Could not have

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Speaker 2: been a nicer guy. And the fact that you're going

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Speaker 2: to hit a guy with an actual folding chair as

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Speaker 2: part of this is Sports Center promo commercial. And he

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Speaker 2: had this little pad on his back and he said,

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Speaker 2: you know, basically, you gotta hit me there, don't miss.

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Speaker 2: And then he started telling me, I think hit the

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Speaker 2: back surgeries or next surgeries that he's had. And the

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Speaker 2: first time I hit him with the chair because he's studying.

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Speaker 2: He's in there in the in the uh like coffee

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Speaker 2: room and if you if you YouTube it, you'll see it.

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Speaker 2: But he's trying to stay awake. I walk in, I'm

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Speaker 2: doing Sports Center and he goes, you know, can you

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Speaker 2: can you give me a pick me up? And I

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Speaker 2: go all right, and then I pick up the chair

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Speaker 2: and I hit him. But we did like five or

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Speaker 2: six takes, and I remember I hit him and he goes, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you got to be convincing, and I said, okay, by

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Speaker 2: He did autograph it, but it's got this huge dent

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Speaker 8: Good morning? Dan Danett from the call in this morning

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Speaker 2: Years, well, we did bring up Florida, but you haven't

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Speaker 2: Sam in Atlanta? Hey, Sam, what's on your mind? Hey? DP, Hey.

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Speaker 11: Hey, coming in at six foot six Ye.

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Speaker 12: First time, very long time.

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Speaker 13: So I got a basketball football powerhouse, a little bit

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Speaker 11: So the the basketball team, they've went to the tournament

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, Louisville has been well, not competitive this year basketball,

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Speaker 2: Then you had a Heisman Trophy winner. All right, that's fine.

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Speaker 14: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Boys? Go mording. How y'all doing great? John? Hey?

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Speaker 14: I know I saw coach col kept his job, But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, so, you know it's but when you lose

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's had that kind of tournament

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 2: That's part of the problem too. They're not interesting. And

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Speaker 7: Hey, Danny, go on, all right, I'm going back to

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Speaker 7: when you would DIBs, y'all and Andy Fritzie to back

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Speaker 2: Huge Oh do you remember that Fritzy the was it

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Speaker 2: I don't know who. Who's the woman who said she

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Speaker 2: I'll find it during the break. Okay, Wait, what are

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Speaker 5: Uh, she was on like Jennifer.

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Speaker 6: They are on Best Damp Sports Show sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she did like a lot on Stern. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we'll we'll try to find it during

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Speaker 5: What was that lady's name?

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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to think, Dan, I have huge prestes.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to bring it back. And then I gotta

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Speaker 2: find my stone cold Steve Austin blue dented chair as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Anna Benson Chris Benson's Chris fireballer from the Chris

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Speaker 2: Can relax now, Yeah, Anna Anna and her Benson's man. Yes, gosh,

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Speaker 2: she careful for Google.

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Speaker 5: Her just a computer.

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Speaker 2: How about we take a break here. Uh, I think

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Speaker 2: Clark kellog ordained menace. By the way, CBS analyst, he'll

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Speaker 2: join us. Is that right? Marv is Clark and ordained minister?

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Speaker 5: He is.

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Speaker 2: Now we're gonna he's gonna be the minister. Uh, the

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, all right, let me take a break man,

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Speaker 2: what happened today? Back after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am

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Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: More phone calls on the way. Lewis Reddick and the

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Speaker 2: Mothership has been to most of the pro days of

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Speaker 2: the Quarterbacks. He'll join us coming up in an hour

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Speaker 2: from now. Joining us now the former Big Ten MVP,

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Speaker 2: and now the lead basketball analyst for CBS. Clark Kello Clark,

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Speaker 2: good to have you back. Are you an ordained minister,

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 12: I'm an ambassador for God through Christ by the grace

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Speaker 17: But no, I am not an ordained minister.

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Speaker 12: But I feel the responsibility to live out and walk

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Speaker 2: I for some reason thought you were ordained minister there.

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Speaker 2: But did you ever have to, you know, tell Charles

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Speaker 17: No, I don't ever have to. I don't have to

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Speaker 12: I just kind of look over there and he kind

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Speaker 17: All inclined to do. Dan me included, Me included.

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Speaker 12: And there weren't a ton of those guys around as

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Speaker 2: And I try to tell people about Doctor J that,

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Speaker 12: one of the great players in basketball history.

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Speaker 17: Had his heyday in the ABA and some of it

436
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Speaker 17: in the NBA.

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Speaker 12: And I remember watching him and being in training camp

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Speaker 12: with George and I'm just like my jaw is dropping.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I'm on the bus with Big Mac.

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Speaker 12: Spelt the same way my rookie year eighty two eighty

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Speaker 12: three when first playing against the Sixers, we played them

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Speaker 12: in an exhibition game in Cincinnati, ironically, and it got

443
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Speaker 12: a chance to be on the court with him and

444
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Speaker 12: that team ended up winning the NBA title, that eighty

445
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Speaker 12: two eighty three Sixers team, and then played them three

446
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Speaker 12: or four times and just marveling at guys that I

447
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Speaker 12: watched and looked up to and now I'm out there

448
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Speaker 12: trying to earn my way and show that I belonged.

449
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Speaker 12: I mean, that was kind of my mindset. He's a legend,

450
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Speaker 12: a great great respect, but I'm here and I want

451
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Speaker 12: to kind of make my mark. Yeah, you know, and

452
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Speaker 12: that's kind of how I tried to approach it.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Clark KELLOGGI, he's the lead college basketball analyst

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Speaker 2: for CBS. Does you can't have anything that makes them vulnerable.

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Speaker 17: I don't think so, Dan.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I know it's kind of boring, but the

457
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Speaker 12: reality is they've got the greatest margin of error in

458
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Speaker 12: the field. I think teams can push them. I think

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Speaker 12: Illinois will push them because of Terrence Shannon, junior Dane Dasia,

460
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Speaker 12: the versatility of Coleman Hawkins. I think they have the

461
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Speaker 12: ability to continue to score and keep pressure on Yukon

462
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Speaker 12: and make it tough for them in a three or

463
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Speaker 12: four minute last game. Stretched you got to have that.

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Speaker 12: But really, they've got size. They can play fast, they

465
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Speaker 12: can play slow, They rebound, they defend at a high level.

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Speaker 12: They're extremely committed to this quest to repeat. I just

467
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Speaker 12: don't see a chink in their armor. And yet we

468
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Speaker 12: know one game scenario. If you have you gotta have firepower. Though, Dad,

469
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Speaker 12: I don't think you're gonna beat them in a game

470
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Speaker 12: in the sixties. I think you've got to be able

471
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Speaker 12: to score the ball consistently, so you keep some pressure

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Speaker 12: on them and then hopefully get them into a game

473
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Speaker 12: pressure situation where it's a one to two possession game,

474
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Speaker 12: it's three minutes to go, and now let's see if

475
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Speaker 12: they're ready to rise to the level they'll need to

476
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Speaker 12: in that situation. But their average margin of victory in

477
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Speaker 12: the nine tournament wednesday've had, as you well know, it's

478
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Speaker 12: twenty three points a game, and that means they've not

479
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Speaker 12: encountered any type of game pressure. Games have been decided

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Speaker 12: against Yukon really early in the forty minute stretch.

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Speaker 2: What surprised you last night.

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Speaker 12: The ability of Alabama to show up again defensively the

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Speaker 12: way they did against Grand Canyon.

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Speaker 17: Late in that game.

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Speaker 12: Grand Canyon had taking the lead and then Alabama closed

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Speaker 12: it out on the strength of its.

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Speaker 2: Defense and an offensive team.

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Speaker 12: Aaron offensive team, I mean, the average ninety one points

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Speaker 12: a game, and they got to eighty nine last night.

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Speaker 17: But it was the defense that won the game. I mean,

491
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Speaker 17: they held Carolina.

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Speaker 12: Shooting in the second half and came up with big

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Speaker 12: stops when they need them, and their offensive firepower was

494
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Speaker 12: on display. To Grant Nelson, Aaron Estrada. Certainly, Mark Sears

495
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Speaker 12: has been phenomenal. Ryland Griffin was terrific, But defensively is

496
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Speaker 12: how they won that game. Carolina missed some shots in

497
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Speaker 12: the second half, but seventy of the shots that they

498
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Speaker 12: missed were because of really good defense.

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Speaker 2: I thought, is it just an aberration that we have

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Speaker 2: big men? You know, Zach Edy, you got Burns at

501
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Speaker 2: North Carolina State Clayton, Connecticut. That is it? This isn't

502
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Speaker 2: normal though, that that you have, right.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, the last few years though.

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Speaker 12: Then the last couple of years, I think some of

505
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Speaker 12: it is nil related because some of these guys, not

506
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Speaker 12: DJ Burns, who's really when I'm a gonna watch, I mean,

507
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Speaker 12: he's such an anomal.

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Speaker 2: He froze up a very dramatic pause. All right, we'll

509
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Speaker 2: see if we can reconnect with Clark. Yeah, but you

510
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Speaker 2: have the big men. I mean, Zach eat is still

511
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Speaker 2: fascinating because he's sort of like Yao ming with the

512
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Speaker 2: size that he has over everybody else. I mean, He's

513
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Speaker 2: just people don't realize how big Yao Ming is even

514
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Speaker 2: when he I think he and Shaq went in at

515
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Speaker 2: the same time for the Hall of Fame, and you

516
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Speaker 2: Shaq is the biggest guy I've ever seen, and then

517
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you see Yao Ming and it

518
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Speaker 2: reminds you, No, that's the biggest man I've ever seen.

519
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Speaker 2: And Edie compared to everybody else, is just bigger than

520
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Speaker 2: everybody else, and it feels like considerably larger than them.

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Speaker 2: But he does have some decent footwork and a decent

522
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Speaker 2: touch there. And I don't know where he's going to

523
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Speaker 2: go in the draft, but you are you know Klingon

524
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Speaker 2: will be drafted before Zach Eating. I think most of

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Speaker 2: your mocks have him the Connecticut Center going before Eating.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I don't even know if d is a

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Speaker 2: first round draft pick in some of these mock drafts.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Mark, do you think you'll see less wanting dones

529
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Speaker 9: and more guys that stay two to three years if

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Speaker 9: they're maybe a late lottery or maybe late first round,

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Speaker 9: early second round pick. Yeah, because of the nil they're

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Speaker 9: a starter on North Carolina or Kansas or whatever, and

533
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Speaker 9: they don't have to leave for the NBA for economic reasons.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know how much money is available for

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Speaker 2: a basketball player as opposed to a marquee football player. Now,

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Speaker 2: how much does Zach Edy making a million? Maybe if

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Speaker 2: Purdue had, you know, the player of the year in

538
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Speaker 2: college football was a Purdue quarterback, how much would he make?

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Speaker 2: He'd make considerably more than what Zach Edy would make.

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Speaker 2: I would just think, you know, based on the sport itself,

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Speaker 2: how much money you bring in, how much money you're

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Speaker 2: willing to spend for that talent. Like how much did

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Speaker 2: Zion get it Duke? I know it wasn't you know,

544
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Speaker 2: nil money? But is he a two million dollar three

545
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Speaker 2: million dollars? What if Zion was coming out of high school? Now,

546
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Speaker 2: what would he get by, you know, any school that

547
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Speaker 2: wanted to bring him in, Because you can pay him

548
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Speaker 2: whatever you want. It's just it's not going to be

549
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Speaker 2: under the table. Is he a five million dollar? Your

550
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Speaker 2: games are on every one of those games was on

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Speaker 2: national TV, and feels like, you know, he would be

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Speaker 2: one of those guys who could command that yeah boom.

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Speaker 6: So for example, I look back at Zach Edie and

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Speaker 6: they estimate he makes about a million in il money.

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Speaker 6: If let's say he was the first pick of the

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Speaker 6: second round of the NBA draft, which I found some

557
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Speaker 6: mock drafts that had him high second round, he would

558
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Speaker 6: have made like a million four as a second round pick,

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Speaker 6: So he could have been coming off the bench for

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Speaker 6: the Hawks making a million four, or take nil at

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Speaker 6: Purdue and be the star. He'll probably go the same

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Speaker 6: exact place in the draft, but he got to play

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Speaker 6: for Purdue and be a star for one more year

564
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Speaker 6: because he will probably never be a focal point of

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Speaker 6: a team again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know if that if I if

567
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Speaker 2: you said I could go into the NBA as a

568
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Speaker 2: second round pick and make one point four, or I

569
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Speaker 2: could stay at Purdue for one million and stay an

570
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Speaker 2: extra year and I am a more key player. I'd

571
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Speaker 2: rather get into the NBA, get into my rookie contract

572
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Speaker 2: if I think I'm gonna be staying in the NBA

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Speaker 2: for a while. Now I get the next contract, That's

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Speaker 2: when I get the real money. There, Clark joining us

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Speaker 2: via the phone. Yeah, pros up there, Clark. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a dramatic pause by you with my question.

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Speaker 2: Then I realized it wasn't you know, the shot clock

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Speaker 2: expired on you, so so.

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Speaker 12: Glad we can restart it. Though, glad we can restart it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the big men. I was just talking about

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Speaker 2: Zach Edie. I don't know how. I know he's the

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Speaker 2: player of the year. I don't know how does that

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Speaker 2: translate to the NBA in your opinion?

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Speaker 12: You know, that's a great, great question. We were just

585
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Speaker 12: at Charles and Kenny and I were just talking about

586
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Speaker 12: that that very point. You know, years ago, first team

587
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Speaker 12: All America Player of the Year in college guaranteed you

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Speaker 12: draft status in the NBA. It was a totally different

589
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Speaker 12: time and period, different kind of game and players now.

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Speaker 12: You know, Zach, to me, certainly, warrants are chance in

591
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Speaker 12: the NBA. I think he's made great improvement, stay on

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Speaker 12: the roster. I think he's worthy of probably a late

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Speaker 12: first round or you know, second round pick. So yeah,

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Speaker 12: it doesn't assure you of NBA draft status in this

595
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Speaker 12: day and age, especially if you're a big guy, because

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Speaker 12: the game has changed so much as it relates to

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Speaker 12: big guys. Big guys now are handling the ball and

598
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Speaker 12: shooting threes and mobile defensively, so they can switch and

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Speaker 12: guard one through five at least for periods of a

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Speaker 12: shot clock. So it's a different type of game now

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Speaker 12: with the three point shooting and the versatility of the

602
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Speaker 12: of the big guys athletically. So it'll be an interesting

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Speaker 12: case study to see what happens with Zach and some

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Speaker 12: of the other big guys are Mondo Baykok. There's another

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Speaker 12: big guy, Omar Bilo at Arizona. I mean, how will

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Speaker 12: those guys fare, if at all come NBA time.

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Speaker 2: You got NC State, Marquette, gun Zaga, Purdue, Duke Houston,

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Speaker 2: Creighton Tennessee. Where do you see a surprise?

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Speaker 12: Potentially n C State Marquette just because they're on this

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Speaker 12: magical ride Dan and they've got a unique player in

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Speaker 12: DJ Burns Junior. A couple of their role players have

612
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Speaker 12: really stepped up Middle Brooks and Diara and then DJ

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Speaker 12: Horn is kind of the heart and soul of that

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Speaker 12: team from a point guard standpoint. And Marquette relies so

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Speaker 12: much on turning you over. If you take care of

616
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Speaker 12: the ball, you typically are going to get shots. And

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Speaker 12: they're not an over They're not an overwhelming physical team.

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Speaker 12: The Golden Eagles, Tyler Kolik's been great, but I think

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Speaker 12: the potential for the surprise is there first, and then

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Speaker 12: perhaps Duke Houston, because if Duke shows the kind of

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Speaker 12: competitive fight and spirit they showed against James Madison, now

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Speaker 12: you're going up a weight class in Houston because that's

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Speaker 12: who they are. They really are, just relentless and the

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Speaker 12: physicality they play with. But Duke showed they've got some

625
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Speaker 12: that too, and if they can take it to another level,

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Speaker 12: that could be the other potential surprises. I think Purdue

627
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Speaker 12: and Gonzaga is a rematch and somewhat of a pick them,

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Speaker 12: although I've got Purdue moving on in that one. And

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Speaker 12: then the Creighton Tennessee game again really closely matched teams.

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Speaker 12: I like Creighton in that one because of the consistent

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Speaker 12: offensive firepower they've shown before.

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Speaker 2: I let you go Kentucky and John CALIPERI are going

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Speaker 2: to give it another go.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 2: Is it as simple as I'm going to go to

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Speaker 2: the transfer portal. I don't have to bring in the

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Speaker 2: top high school kids. Now, I can sprinkle in a

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Speaker 2: couple of guys who have been around for two years

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Speaker 2: or three years.

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Speaker 12: That's the landscape. But I don't think is as simple

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Speaker 12: as that. I mean, there's some other adjustments you make,

642
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 12: but clearly, your roster constitution is a big part in

643
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Speaker 12: the driving lifeblood of college basketball and college sports. I

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Speaker 12: mean how you recruit and then how you coach them up.

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Speaker 12: But I think John has to make some adjustments there.

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Speaker 12: What you will, and I'm glad this it's a interesting

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Speaker 12: story to keep an eye on going in next season.

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Speaker 12: How the Wildcats move forward in the twenty four to

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Speaker 12: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. As always, we'll be watching tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Clark, my pleasure. Dan.

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Speaker 12: Always good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 12: Enjoy your Friday, your good Friday, and your weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's Clark Kellong, CBS Sports lead college basketball analysts. They

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Speaker 2: always go to Clark first because Clark follows college basketball,

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Speaker 2: so it's Clark tell us what happened, and then he'll

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Speaker 2: actually name the players and he can give you some

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Speaker 2: detailed analysis here. And then you go to Charles and

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Speaker 2: then Kenny, and they are not as deep in the

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Speaker 2: weeds with their college basketball knowledge, so you go to

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Speaker 2: them for the entertainment. You go to Clark for the

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Speaker 2: information there as soon as they come out, so all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, Clark wud you see, and that allows

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Speaker 2: Kenny and Shock to be able to kind of give

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Speaker 2: you ten thousand feet above their thoughts on this. Take

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Speaker 2: Dayop The former Oscar winner Lou Gossitt, Junior officer and

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Speaker 2: a gentleman fame guys at the age of eighty seven,

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Speaker 2: h that was a great role man. Yeah, he had

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Speaker 2: cancer in twenty ten, went public with the news it

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Speaker 2: was prostate cancer and he wanted to have an influence

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Speaker 2: on younger black men African American men who were victims

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Speaker 2: of this disease, but do not go public with it.

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Speaker 2: But he was officer and a gentleman with Richard gear

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Speaker 2: and won the Academy Award. What year was that that

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Speaker 2: he won? How long ago has it been for officer

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Speaker 2: and a gentleman? Feels like it's thirty years ago? Is

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Speaker 2: it more than that?

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Speaker 6: I would think late eighties?

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Speaker 5: Checking?

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Speaker 2: Okay, and so lou Gossitt Junior dying at the age

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Speaker 2: of eighties.

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Speaker 6: Checked that it's longer. Nineteen eighty two's officer and a gentleman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, the pro days yesterday you had Drake May,

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix junior as well, and we found out that

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix is fast. He could run maybe a four

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Speaker 2: to four four or five forty, but he's not known

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Speaker 2: as a runner. And looking at his running stats, he

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Speaker 2: didn't run very much when he was in college, whether

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Speaker 2: it was at Indiana or Washington and with you dub

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Speaker 2: was basically that was a pro style offense there. But

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Speaker 2: he does have the ability to run, which I find interesting.

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Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels rushed for eleven hundred yards. Drake May rushed

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Speaker 2: for four hundred and forty nine yards. Caleb Williams one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one yards. JJ McCarthy two hundred and two,

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks to thirty four, Michael Pennix eight.

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Speaker 17: Statup a day statup, the.

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Speaker 12: Day status day statu the day status.

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Speaker 1: Day status day statup, day startup.

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Speaker 2: So does that mean that he can run? He just

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Speaker 2: chose not to run. If I look at the college

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Speaker 2: career of Jaden Daniels, he rushed for thirty three hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks in his career at Auburn and also Oregon

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Speaker 2: sixteen hundred yards. Drake May rushed for twelve hundred yards,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams at Oklahoma and USC nine hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: five yards, JJ McCarthy six hundred and thirty two, and

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix two hundred and sixty five yards. We look

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Speaker 2: at quarterbacks and some we call athletic. Michael Pennix has

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Speaker 2: the ability to be athletic. He just chose not to

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Speaker 2: use his legs even though he might be. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he's faster than Jayden Daniels. Did Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 2: run a forty I don't know if he did. But

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks, Drake May, Caleb McCarthy, you know, Michael Pennix

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Speaker 2: is probably the fastest, second fastest quarterback in the draft

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Speaker 2: with the forty yard. I'm gonna believe that Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 2: is a little quicker than him. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: is done a forty. We're going to have more on

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Speaker 2: this coming up next down, because our good friend Lewis

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Speaker 2: Riddick of the Mothership was at these pro days and

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Speaker 2: he came away from Jaden daniels pro day is saying

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Speaker 2: he is clearly the number two quarterback in the draft.

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Speaker 2: I'm still hearing JJ McCarthy might be ahead of Drake

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Speaker 2: May and might be the third quarterback off the board.

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Speaker 2: If you said who has the potential to be a bust,

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Speaker 2: my first inkling would be probably JJ McCarthy. And if

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Speaker 2: you said who has the biggest ceiling who could surprise people,

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Speaker 2: I'd say Michael Pennox Junior. Because Pennix is a pro

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Speaker 2: style offense quarterback, got a great arm, accurate and now

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Speaker 2: we've seen the ability to extend plays to run a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Drake May I still have concerns about him

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Speaker 2: as well. I mean I have concerns about all these

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks because you know, you have to depends on where

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Speaker 2: you go. Let's see whoever goes to the Patriots. You

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Speaker 2: got a tougher uphill climb than Caleb going to the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Even if Jaden Daniels goes to the Commanders, whoever goes

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Speaker 2: to the Patriots. If that's that third pick, you're going

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Speaker 2: to a team that's not very good. That's the reason

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Speaker 2: why they're drafting third. But if you happen to go

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Speaker 2: to a team like Michael Pennix, what if he ends

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Speaker 2: up with the Raiders, What if he ends up with Seattle,

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Speaker 2: Like you get in a situation that might be better.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you're not playing your first year, probably not. You

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Speaker 2: get to sit behind somebody. What if Michael Pennix Junior

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Speaker 2: goes to the Rams? How about that? Now you got

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Speaker 2: Sean McVay. You're gonna sit at least one year, and

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Speaker 2: you've got a couple of good receivers there, good running

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Speaker 2: back there that he might succeed more or quicker than

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Speaker 2: the other quarterbacks there, even though he'll probably sit down

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Speaker 2: his first year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, pull the Rams make a lot of sense. They

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Speaker 6: had the nineteenth pick. They could get someone who maybe

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Speaker 6: falls to them out of nowhere. It's kind of like

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Speaker 6: remember the Packers saw Jordan Love falling and they did

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Speaker 6: trade up to get them. But they don't have to

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Speaker 6: play that person, whether it's bo Nicks or Pennix or whomever.

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Speaker 6: And Matthew Stafford, I'm sure is expensive. I don't know

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Speaker 6: if he's going to play even more than one year.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot of upside there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And bo Nix might be a guy that falls

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Speaker 2: to the Denver Broncos. Not that he's walking into a

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Speaker 2: great situation, but he is walking into a situation where

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Speaker 2: you have Sean Payton as your head coach. Quarterbacks coach.

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Speaker 2: Those guys who fall a little bit later sometimes go

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Speaker 2: to a better situation than the guy who's asked to

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Speaker 2: come in and all of a sudden, whoever, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you saw what happened to Mac Jones. Are you trying

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Speaker 2: to tell me Drake May is going to be a

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Speaker 2: big upgrade in that Oh my gosh, they won X

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Speaker 2: number of games more than Mac Jones. I don't see that.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if Drake May starts his first year, Caleb,

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Speaker 2: I believe Will. Jayden Daniels, I believe Will. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if the other quarterbacks you are, the Vikings involved

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Speaker 2: in this as well. Who's moving up. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick, he'll join us and we'll hear from Brian Kelly,

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Speaker 2: the LSU head coach, and Michael Porter Junior talks about

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Speaker 2: his brother Johntay's gambling situation