1
00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,920
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star credit

2
00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,119
Speaker 1: with Jedguars Senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome to

3
00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,160
Speaker 1: this week's Ozone podcast has ended by a by Star

4
00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,080
Speaker 1: and I'm excited about this week's guest, and I'm sure

5
00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna be h His profile

6
00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,440
Speaker 1: has really taken off in the last few years with

7
00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,839
Speaker 1: a show that I consider, along with a lot of others,

8
00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,520
Speaker 1: the best football show on television. But he's been doing

9
00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,440
Speaker 1: it a long time before that knows the league as

10
00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,680
Speaker 1: well as any national guy that you're gonna see. Uh,

11
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,680
Speaker 1: Peter Schrager from the NFL Network from Good Morning Football. Honestly, Peter,

12
00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,639
Speaker 1: We've known each other a long time, but I've never

13
00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,000
Speaker 1: really interviewed you in this format. Uh. First of all, welcome,

14
00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,320
Speaker 1: thanks dude. I mean the second you reached out to me,

15
00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,800
Speaker 1: of course, and and I know that the work you

16
00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,720
Speaker 1: did for a long time covering the Jags and now

17
00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,200
Speaker 1: what you're doing in this multimedia platform, it's as good

18
00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,920
Speaker 1: as it is. So when it comes to all the

19
00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,640
Speaker 1: different teams and when you're getting the information, I always

20
00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,160
Speaker 1: know that when you're talking Jaguars, you don't really know it.

21
00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,840
Speaker 1: You can also be objective about it, which I love well.

22
00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,679
Speaker 1: That means a lot. I appreciate that. It's a I

23
00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,600
Speaker 1: guess the first thing I want to talk to about it.

24
00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,800
Speaker 1: Obviously we'll go knee deep into the Jaguars very soon,

25
00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,160
Speaker 1: but I'm fascinated. I can remember when Good Morning Football

26
00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,959
Speaker 1: first started, and at the time it was sort of

27
00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:39,160
Speaker 1: one the latest of some shows that NFL Network Hald tried.

28
00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,520
Speaker 1: It seemed like they were trying to find the right combination,

29
00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,119
Speaker 1: and then somehow the chemistry between you guys just took off.

30
00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm assuming here, but I'm assuming that you're going to

31
00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,400
Speaker 1: tell me that that chemistry is what really makes this

32
00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,680
Speaker 1: show work. I'd like to think so. But there's also

33
00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,200
Speaker 1: really good uh producers and a lot of hard work.

34
00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,680
Speaker 1: It's a grind in that we do show for three

35
00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,640
Speaker 1: hours every day, Monday to Friday, and we do it

36
00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,840
Speaker 1: fifty two weeks a year. So right now we're in March,

37
00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,000
Speaker 1: we're doing prospects and draft and quarterback rumors, but in

38
00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,280
Speaker 1: June will be doing it, in July will be doing it,

39
00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,239
Speaker 1: and August will be doing it. So it's really part

40
00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,280
Speaker 1: of our lives and we all loved the work and

41
00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,600
Speaker 1: we love working with each other, so it's great. But

42
00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,520
Speaker 1: to your point about you know there was a chemistry

43
00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,760
Speaker 1: and wasn't gonna hit. We never did a show together

44
00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,840
Speaker 1: till our first show. There was no rehearsals, no auditions.

45
00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,240
Speaker 1: It kind of just came to together. We all were

46
00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,720
Speaker 1: hired individually, not as a group. Um, I'd never met

47
00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,160
Speaker 1: Kay Adam before we did it, and the Perlson and

48
00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,040
Speaker 1: I knew each other, and Kyle and I had going

49
00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,960
Speaker 1: on to Rome show, which you worked on for years.

50
00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,080
Speaker 1: But uh, it's pretty lucky. And we get a lot

51
00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,720
Speaker 1: of credit to Mark Quinndel, who runs the NFL network,

52
00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,600
Speaker 1: and uh to two gentlemen, a guy named Jordan Levin

53
00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,200
Speaker 1: who used to work at the network, and then Michael Davies,

54
00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,840
Speaker 1: who I know Jaguars fans might be watching the Premier

55
00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,960
Speaker 1: League a little bit. He's one of the two guys

56
00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,960
Speaker 1: on Men and Blazers. He's also one of our exact

57
00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,840
Speaker 1: the producers. Um, he's he's European and he's you know,

58
00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,440
Speaker 1: British in his in his presentation on on the Soccer World.

59
00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,920
Speaker 1: But he also pitched this idea as a producer for

60
00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,239
Speaker 1: the NFL Network that we do a show based in

61
00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,080
Speaker 1: New York talking football, but it's not your typical shirt

62
00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,040
Speaker 1: and tie buttoned up, everyone in a suit, and we're

63
00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,440
Speaker 1: gonna be talking next to and now is in fact,

64
00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna maybe go a little bit outside the lines

65
00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,720
Speaker 1: of what we really do on football shows. It's a

66
00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,200
Speaker 1: pretty cool thing in a sense that you know, I've

67
00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,160
Speaker 1: been following the league since I was a kid, so

68
00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,440
Speaker 1: probably nineteen seventy unfortunately for me. Uh, and I would

69
00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,560
Speaker 1: put this show right now up among you know, the

70
00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,200
Speaker 1: Old Earth Cross just passed yesterday, but the CBS show

71
00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,520
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, Um, you know the shows

72
00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,280
Speaker 1: that sort of define and where people get their message. Uh.

73
00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,080
Speaker 1: It changes over the years based on media. It changes

74
00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,680
Speaker 1: over the years based on how people are consuming information.

75
00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,080
Speaker 1: But right now I feel like you guys are it.

76
00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,000
Speaker 1: When you guys say something, everybody knows what Good Morning

77
00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,920
Speaker 1: Football is. I guess my question to you is do

78
00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,440
Speaker 1: you get an idea from talking to players and people

79
00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,960
Speaker 1: around the league that there's that level of connection. It's

80
00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,200
Speaker 1: pretty powerful. Yeah, and you better watch what you say.

81
00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,719
Speaker 1: I mean, truly, you know, I can go on I

82
00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,760
Speaker 1: can go on a couple of sports radio shows and

83
00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,520
Speaker 1: may make a comment here and there and doesn't really

84
00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,560
Speaker 1: get picked up. But I'll give you an example. I mean,

85
00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,920
Speaker 1: last week I said on the air, I said, I

86
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,120
Speaker 1: spoke with Sean McVeigh and he's giddy about the Matt

87
00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,400
Speaker 1: Staffer Trigg. And it's true. I spoke to Sean McVeigh,

88
00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,640
Speaker 1: and you know, whether or not the word guinea were

89
00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,680
Speaker 1: used or whatever else, I could just tell a sense

90
00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,359
Speaker 1: an excitement in him over like what's going on. But

91
00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,800
Speaker 1: the trade hadn't been done yet, so technically Sean McVeigh

92
00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't be commenting on that. And technically he hasn't spoken

93
00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,320
Speaker 1: with the local media yet. And I've started a little

94
00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,760
Speaker 1: bit of a you know what storm out in l

95
00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,839
Speaker 1: A because the locals hadn't I got a chance. He's

96
00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,560
Speaker 1: not addressing it, So how am I able to talk

97
00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,000
Speaker 1: to little things like that? It just shows that people

98
00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,839
Speaker 1: around the league are watching, the media is watching, and

99
00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,600
Speaker 1: the players more than anyone is watching. If you if

100
00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,560
Speaker 1: you wanna, you know, be critical of a player, you

101
00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,039
Speaker 1: better be willing to look at that player in the

102
00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,120
Speaker 1: face and say, yeah, I believe what I said. And

103
00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,120
Speaker 1: it only leads to more authentic and more truthful segments. Um,

104
00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, on our show, we're genuinely positive show. But

105
00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,360
Speaker 1: if I come on the air like I did today

106
00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,520
Speaker 1: and said I think the I think the Patriots and

107
00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,719
Speaker 1: can look outside of Cam Newton at quarterback, well there's

108
00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,760
Speaker 1: a chance Cam Newton saw that, and I'll have to

109
00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,200
Speaker 1: deal with Kim Newton at some point and have to

110
00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,719
Speaker 1: address that. I think that the Patriots have to look

111
00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,039
Speaker 1: somewhere else other than Kim Newton at quarterback. That just

112
00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,720
Speaker 1: goes with the territory of having a show that as

113
00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,760
Speaker 1: well well viewed. But to your point, yeah, you mentioned

114
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,520
Speaker 1: the passing of earth Cross, who was a legend that

115
00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,520
Speaker 1: of course I grew up watching too. When you think

116
00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,719
Speaker 1: about that show the NFL today, it was Brent Musburger,

117
00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,040
Speaker 1: it was earth Cross, a former player, It was Phyllis George,

118
00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,040
Speaker 1: and then it was you know, Jimmy the Greek and

119
00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't your typical four X players talking. If that

120
00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,480
Speaker 1: can be the blueprint and if you somehow even can

121
00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,599
Speaker 1: compare our show to that one, which is what we

122
00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,440
Speaker 1: strive to some day to be considered, um in the

123
00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,520
Speaker 1: same league as that's that's the ultimate honor. And I

124
00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,960
Speaker 1: appreciate that final question along these lines, and again, I

125
00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,240
Speaker 1: could talk this show with you forever be I'm fascinated

126
00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,880
Speaker 1: by the path there. Um. Was there a show early

127
00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,520
Speaker 1: or a time where you sort of knew it was

128
00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,240
Speaker 1: gonna click because you had had different gigs, you had

129
00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,760
Speaker 1: done a lot of things, and you know, we're established,

130
00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,040
Speaker 1: but hadn't really been any part of of a thing

131
00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,000
Speaker 1: like this that took off. Was there a moment or

132
00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,280
Speaker 1: was it just sort of a feeling? Yeah, there was.

133
00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny because you do the show on

134
00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,560
Speaker 1: this little studio for for for four months and you

135
00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,240
Speaker 1: finish it up and then say okay. For the first year,

136
00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,039
Speaker 1: we were like all right, and I'm going to Houston

137
00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,080
Speaker 1: to go to the super Bowl, or like all right,

138
00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,680
Speaker 1: we're doing the show super Bowl, which you know, we've

139
00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,160
Speaker 1: done shows a super Bowl and all these networks and

140
00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,000
Speaker 1: all the newspapers and all these radio shows you always.

141
00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,760
Speaker 1: We got there and there was actually like at six

142
00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,120
Speaker 1: in the morning, so in the morning they were like no,

143
00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,640
Speaker 1: not a huge amount, but there was you know, twenty

144
00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,240
Speaker 1: fans waiting and think they am to watch the show

145
00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,920
Speaker 1: in person, and I was like, oh crap, Like there

146
00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,680
Speaker 1: are people are waiting, waking up at this hour to

147
00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,120
Speaker 1: watch our show, okay. And then the more and more

148
00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,480
Speaker 1: is the events would pile up, whether it be the

149
00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,600
Speaker 1: All of Fame or whether it be the draft or

150
00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,400
Speaker 1: we're not go to the owners meetings, there will be

151
00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,600
Speaker 1: more and more feedback. So that's the kind of stuff

152
00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,400
Speaker 1: that really means a lot when we do it for

153
00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,880
Speaker 1: each other, and we do it to put on a

154
00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,440
Speaker 1: good product. But then when you see that we're connecting

155
00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,760
Speaker 1: with the fans at home and that people actually are

156
00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,760
Speaker 1: motivated to go to the show in person and share

157
00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,400
Speaker 1: their uh, their appreciation for the show, that that's when

158
00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,360
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, it's clicking. Okay, we're kind of making

159
00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,400
Speaker 1: an impact here, all right. I gotta talk Jags. Obviously,

160
00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,960
Speaker 1: it's the Jaguars show, and you follow the league as

161
00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,480
Speaker 1: closely as any national guy. Talk to me about the

162
00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,680
Speaker 1: turnaround in tone in the last month and a half,

163
00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,480
Speaker 1: about the Jags, just with Urban, with with assuming Trevor Peter,

164
00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:01,200
Speaker 1: we're assuming now, But just what's the difference in terms

165
00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,800
Speaker 1: of vibe and perception, I guess would be the first question.

166
00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,480
Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, look, I think and I know

167
00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,040
Speaker 1: the cons might be like I think there was a

168
00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,600
Speaker 1: feeling maybe internally or maybe um with Jaguars fans are

169
00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,080
Speaker 1: like they were like, oh my god, they got urban

170
00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,840
Speaker 1: Meyer and they're doing flips. But we've been hearing about

171
00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,080
Speaker 1: urban Meyer flirting with the NFL for for five years now,

172
00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,040
Speaker 1: So when the actual thing actually happened, I don't think

173
00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,840
Speaker 1: it moved the needle as much as maybe everyone thought

174
00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,280
Speaker 1: where it was gonna be like, oh my god. We've

175
00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,840
Speaker 1: also seen college coaches the past few years, whether it

176
00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,040
Speaker 1: be a Cliff Kingsburyer and Matt Rule, make the transition

177
00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,480
Speaker 1: to the pros and it not be a huge name

178
00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,000
Speaker 1: like a Nick Saban or even a Chip Kelly when

179
00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,880
Speaker 1: he went. When you're getting getting guys from Baylor and

180
00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,280
Speaker 1: Texas Tech getting NFL jobs, it's almost like, yeah, of

181
00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,520
Speaker 1: course urban Meyer can coach in the NFL, and of

182
00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,880
Speaker 1: course he's got a shot to be a coach, but

183
00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,160
Speaker 1: he's been doing broadcasting. But did anyone really, in their

184
00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,240
Speaker 1: heart of hearts think that urban Meyer had shut the

185
00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,920
Speaker 1: door and was done. No, So here's the team he

186
00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,280
Speaker 1: ends up with. I think it's a very interesting potential

187
00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,600
Speaker 1: match of urban Meyer and this really young team and potentially,

188
00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,040
Speaker 1: again we can't talk about it is a done deal.

189
00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,760
Speaker 1: Potentially the greatest quarterbacks into the NFL in the past decade.

190
00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,959
Speaker 1: I think that is what everyone's saying in their head

191
00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,199
Speaker 1: on here. It's optimism and it's curiosity. But by no

192
00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,559
Speaker 1: means is it a slam dunk that Urban Meyer is

193
00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,079
Speaker 1: gonna have great success? And by no means was there

194
00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,480
Speaker 1: this great like I guess reaction around the league of

195
00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,000
Speaker 1: being like watch out for the Jaguars because Urban Meyers

196
00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,480
Speaker 1: the coach. I still think that NFL coaches have a

197
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,120
Speaker 1: lot of pride and they're like, let's see how you

198
00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,520
Speaker 1: do on this level. What is it about? I mean,

199
00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:45,480
Speaker 1: it seems like, as you mentioned rule Kingsbury, Uh, you know,

200
00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,520
Speaker 1: they haven't been the playoffs, so it's hard to say

201
00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,080
Speaker 1: they've had great success. But it doesn't seem like the

202
00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,800
Speaker 1: transition is as daunting as maybe people thought it was before.

203
00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,560
Speaker 1: Is that strictly because the style of play in college

204
00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,800
Speaker 1: in pro is starting to mesh more than maybe it

205
00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,440
Speaker 1: did decade ago. Yeah. I also think those two coaches

206
00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,480
Speaker 1: specifically are players coaches and players. Thinks I love to

207
00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,360
Speaker 1: play for Kingsbury and that he's this cool young guy,

208
00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,719
Speaker 1: and that rule comes in with a high energy. I

209
00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,760
Speaker 1: don't think Urban's that guy. So I'm curiously how it

210
00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,360
Speaker 1: goes Urban Meyer as much as his Ohio State in

211
00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,640
Speaker 1: Florida players absolutely love and cherishing, He's not necessarily players coach.

212
00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,880
Speaker 1: He's certainly a disciplinarian. He's gonna be, you know, hard

213
00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480
Speaker 1: line with a lot of these guys. So I think

214
00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,120
Speaker 1: the game is always a little bit more advanced as

215
00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,400
Speaker 1: far as scheme and and uh, I guess advancements and

216
00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,680
Speaker 1: some different bold things in the college game. So anything

217
00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,880
Speaker 1: I've been doing in the NFL, the college game probably

218
00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,880
Speaker 1: saw a couple of years ago. And even if Urban

219
00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,680
Speaker 1: has been coaching necessarily in a day to day and

220
00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:49,320
Speaker 1: doing these on a nightly basis, he's very plugged in

221
00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,400
Speaker 1: in college football. He's been covering college football. And I

222
00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,319
Speaker 1: have no doubt that the RPO is not gonna throw

223
00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,920
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer for a major loop. He's been seen it

224
00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,960
Speaker 1: for a decade. You know he'll be able to fake

225
00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:08,800
Speaker 1: year it out. You think what Trevor Lawrence, Um, obviously

226
00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,200
Speaker 1: you guys have been talking about him tangently for a

227
00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,720
Speaker 1: long time. I'm sure, uh, how much conversation about that

228
00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,120
Speaker 1: how confident are you that he's the real deal. Yeah,

229
00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm all in. I I usually am a

230
00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,320
Speaker 1: load of caution and skepticism on our show, and I'm

231
00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,640
Speaker 1: very often the web blanket over and let's slow down,

232
00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,880
Speaker 1: let's see it before we before we go nuts over

233
00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,880
Speaker 1: this guy. But there's a couple of prospects in the

234
00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,040
Speaker 1: last few years that I have loved. I love Joe

235
00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,840
Speaker 1: Burrow last year, but I openly did not love Justin

236
00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,200
Speaker 1: Herbert and I did not love to Uh. I thought

237
00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,960
Speaker 1: those guys were getting crowned a little too early. UM.

238
00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,240
Speaker 1: I feel that one about Zack Wilson right now. I

239
00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,120
Speaker 1: feel that fields where before we say let's push out

240
00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,200
Speaker 1: Sam Donald or even a Mitch Robinsky and let's crown

241
00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,080
Speaker 1: these guys, I don't know where they shown. Trevor Lawrence,

242
00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,840
Speaker 1: he's the outlier. Trevor Lawrence is awesome. He's shown us

243
00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,960
Speaker 1: everything physically gifted, smart, has dealt with all the pressure

244
00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,080
Speaker 1: of the last three years and experience plays every year

245
00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,160
Speaker 1: and such a huge college football games and thinks to

246
00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,160
Speaker 1: deliver and all of them. I think he's a can't

247
00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,360
Speaker 1: miss prospect, and they're really most underrated thing that. I

248
00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,360
Speaker 1: don't think we've really been discussed with Jacksonville's. You guys

249
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,280
Speaker 1: have a really good offensive line, Like if Cam Robinson

250
00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,600
Speaker 1: comes back, we're talking about an excellent offensive line. But

251
00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,800
Speaker 1: when you go through the list of guys that are

252
00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,520
Speaker 1: all coming back, I mean, it's four of the five

253
00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,040
Speaker 1: starters that we know, and it's consistent. So Minshew and

254
00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,120
Speaker 1: Glennon and whoever else played last year, I gotta say

255
00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,120
Speaker 1: they were fine and they were well protected. They weren't

256
00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,120
Speaker 1: running for their lives, which I think is a huge

257
00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,559
Speaker 1: thing because you look at Joe Burrow last year. You

258
00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,600
Speaker 1: had to do a lot behind a makeshift offensive line

259
00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,640
Speaker 1: eventually did get injured. How much can a player like Lawrence,

260
00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:57,080
Speaker 1: beyond just what he does on the field, impact for franchise? Uh?

261
00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,400
Speaker 1: I guess how big a deal do you think he

262
00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,520
Speaker 1: will be in the NFL and house? Obviously, I has

263
00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,560
Speaker 1: to have success, but you don't always get sort of

264
00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,679
Speaker 1: I guess ready made brands coming in if you follow me.

265
00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,800
Speaker 1: He's a rarity in that everybody knows who this kid is,

266
00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,160
Speaker 1: maybe even more so than they knew who Burrow was. Right, Yeah,

267
00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,920
Speaker 1: because Lawrence was winning national titles and playing in huge

268
00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,080
Speaker 1: games before Burrow even got to suit up for them.

269
00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is a three year deal with

270
00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,160
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. He's fantastic. I look at it, it was

271
00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,400
Speaker 1: like a handful, right, you got Andrew Luck, you got

272
00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,959
Speaker 1: John Elway, and I'm trying to think of another first

273
00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,960
Speaker 1: overall pick that was such a sure thing. Trevor Lawrence

274
00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,880
Speaker 1: is as the number one guy might be Peyton Manning,

275
00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,880
Speaker 1: and even Peyton Manning had to fight off the Ryan

276
00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,480
Speaker 1: Leaf comparison and and win that job. So I think

277
00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,040
Speaker 1: he's once in every twenty years you get one of

278
00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,720
Speaker 1: these guys that it's just a complete slam bunk. Maybe

279
00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,480
Speaker 1: twice if you want to include Andrew Luck. But I

280
00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,680
Speaker 1: mean Trevor Lauren. Your grandma knows Trevor Lawrence that she

281
00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,960
Speaker 1: watches any sports. Your aunt knows Trevor Lawrence, your nephew

282
00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,560
Speaker 1: knows Trevor Lawrence. And it's before he's even suited up.

283
00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,920
Speaker 1: It's like he's a household name already, and he hasn't

284
00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,160
Speaker 1: taken the NFL deal. What do you expect sort of

285
00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,320
Speaker 1: shifting gears here to the league in general, um as

286
00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,400
Speaker 1: we move forward. Obviously, Covid is remains a huge topic.

287
00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,120
Speaker 1: But beyond that, what trends are you following right now, Peter?

288
00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,040
Speaker 1: What interests you about the league right now that maybe

289
00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about. Uh, you know, something that's interesting

290
00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,960
Speaker 1: obviously is the quarterback carousel. But I think big name

291
00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who have just gotten paid or are do big

292
00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,840
Speaker 1: money speaking out and using their voice. You know, the

293
00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,640
Speaker 1: Stafford trade happens, and then now you have the Wentz trade.

294
00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,880
Speaker 1: But gosh, both those guys I don't even consider in

295
00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,000
Speaker 1: the same breath as Russell Wilson or DeShawn Watson. And

296
00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,520
Speaker 1: you're doing a daily show on Good Morning Football every morning.

297
00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,040
Speaker 1: That's like gold to us. It's not just us pulling

298
00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,240
Speaker 1: crap out of thin air. When you've got agents talking

299
00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,400
Speaker 1: on the record, the Russell Wilson lifting teams, and when

300
00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,360
Speaker 1: you've got the Shawn Watson requesting trades. This is a

301
00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,720
Speaker 1: brand new world, and you know, a brave new world.

302
00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,360
Speaker 1: And as recent as a couple of years ago, if

303
00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,880
Speaker 1: you're telling me a quarterback would sign a hundred and

304
00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,720
Speaker 1: thirty million dollar contract and then demanding a trade less

305
00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,400
Speaker 1: than six months later, I'd say, well, shame on that player.

306
00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,720
Speaker 1: Sham on that player. That's not the narrative anymore. The

307
00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,760
Speaker 1: narratives like player empowerment and these guys are gonna want

308
00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,320
Speaker 1: to have more and more. Say so to me, that's

309
00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,200
Speaker 1: the trend. Unhappy quarterbacks, despite being paid a ton and

310
00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,960
Speaker 1: despite being given the keys to the franchise in the city,

311
00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,640
Speaker 1: still wanting more and more. I'm just fascinating to see

312
00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,000
Speaker 1: where it goes. At the risk of sounding like, oh,

313
00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,840
Speaker 1: get off my lawn, guy, is that good for the

314
00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,680
Speaker 1: league or is it just is what it is. It

315
00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,160
Speaker 1: is what it is, and it wasn't good for the NBA,

316
00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,520
Speaker 1: and now we have the NBA where you've got you know,

317
00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,880
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving and James Harden and Kevin Durant suitting up

318
00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,640
Speaker 1: for the same team. It's random city that none of

319
00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,080
Speaker 1: them ever had any connection to. I'm curious to see

320
00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,360
Speaker 1: if that comes to the NFL. Free agency is gonna

321
00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,360
Speaker 1: be interesting because I think a lot of players are

322
00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,280
Speaker 1: going to be released because of salary cap issues and

323
00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,880
Speaker 1: just the way that things are gonna be in and

324
00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,600
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a lot of guys bonding

325
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,560
Speaker 1: together and saying, hey, let's go get a ring. Just

326
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,040
Speaker 1: as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers did a year ago, boy,

327
00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,800
Speaker 1: and it's funny. I'm with you. Five years ago, I

328
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,160
Speaker 1: would have never seen that, and I would have told

329
00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,640
Speaker 1: you to my dying breath that you would never see

330
00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,280
Speaker 1: it because football wasn't set up that way. But it

331
00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,560
Speaker 1: really feels like it's going that way, doesn't it. You know?

332
00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,800
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is the media narrative. No one is.

333
00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,240
Speaker 1: All you hear about Deshaun Watson is what a great

334
00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,240
Speaker 1: guy is. And I kind of like it that we're

335
00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,840
Speaker 1: not burying the players for doing this. And Russell Wilson,

336
00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,480
Speaker 1: no one said a foul word about him, and it

337
00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,880
Speaker 1: sounds absolutely ludicrous on paper that you would trade or

338
00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,680
Speaker 1: that he would want to be traded despite this signing

339
00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,240
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty million dollar deal. I think the

340
00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,160
Speaker 1: way that media is covering these players, and I think

341
00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,640
Speaker 1: the way of these players are speaking uh is definitely different.

342
00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,080
Speaker 1: And wherever it goes, I'll be following it. Final question

343
00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,240
Speaker 1: from this in Peter um, how do you see free

344
00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,960
Speaker 1: agency playing out? Me? Thank you mentioned earlier you anticipate

345
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:19,199
Speaker 1: significantly more guys being available, uh, but it feels like

346
00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a weird one because of the cap

347
00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,280
Speaker 1: coming down. Do you anticipate the fans being able to

348
00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,919
Speaker 1: see how different this is. I think it will be

349
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,919
Speaker 1: a weird year. I think that there's gonna be a

350
00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,119
Speaker 1: bit of a problem for the NFL's middle class. The

351
00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:38,000
Speaker 1: thirty year old player who makes in the top of

352
00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,720
Speaker 1: his position group might be gone. But I think there's

353
00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,600
Speaker 1: still always going to be a star quality to this league.

354
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,760
Speaker 1: Those guys are gonna get paid. But you know, I

355
00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,000
Speaker 1: look around the league and there's a lot of players

356
00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,160
Speaker 1: that probably don't know it this morning, as we talked

357
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,040
Speaker 1: on March first, that will be unemployed in a couple

358
00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,280
Speaker 1: of weeks because these teams are gonna be looking at

359
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,879
Speaker 1: the salary cap and saying, I do want to spend money,

360
00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,119
Speaker 1: but gosh, I can get this player who's not that

361
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,119
Speaker 1: far off in value or or in skill for a

362
00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,840
Speaker 1: lot cheaper. I don't see a spending bonanza like we're

363
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,359
Speaker 1: used to in free agency. I think a lot of

364
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,199
Speaker 1: teams are gonna be a lot more prudent and what

365
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,080
Speaker 1: they do as far as free agent acquisitions go. I said,

366
00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,320
Speaker 1: final question, but close this out talking about the Jags

367
00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:21,119
Speaker 1: one last time. One in fifteen last year, potential generational

368
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,960
Speaker 1: quarterback coming in what's realistic for year one? And I

369
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,040
Speaker 1: know it's impossible because they haven't drafted yet, they haven't

370
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,760
Speaker 1: done free agency, but you know, you follow it again

371
00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,600
Speaker 1: more than people locally do. Yeah, look, I don't. I

372
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,840
Speaker 1: don't know what you think of the two first round

373
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,960
Speaker 1: picks last year. I think they showed some promise the

374
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,200
Speaker 1: corner and the defensive end. I think Josh Allen had

375
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,879
Speaker 1: a you know, for solid first years of his career.

376
00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,600
Speaker 1: There's talent on the Jaguars. It's not like they don't

377
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,440
Speaker 1: have talent um, but it's a it's a big lift

378
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,520
Speaker 1: to go from one and fifteen to relevant. I would

379
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence makes them at least interesting in a

380
00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 1: way that even Minshew didn't who I thought Minshew had

381
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,760
Speaker 1: a ark to him. It was fun to watch. But

382
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence is another worldly type quarterback. There's

383
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 1: only a few of them on the planet. He's one

384
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,159
Speaker 1: of them. At the very least. We're watching the Jaguars.

385
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna come out of the

386
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 1: gates with a new coach, new offensive coordinator, and new

387
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 1: quarterback year one still in a pandemic. If you will

388
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 1: with the offseason if they're gonna make a major splash,

389
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 1: I would say this is a long term deal. I

390
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 1: would think that if we're looking at a five record

391
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 1: or beyond, you're one of urban Meyer. I think that's

392
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 1: the pretty fair gold is set. And of course he

393
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 1: would say super Bowl is the goal, and I appreciate that,

394
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 1: but I'm just being realistic, especially in a loaded an

395
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 1: FC South, which is what that is. So the headline

396
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: will be that you're predicting playoffs. Has that um predicting mediocrity? Yes,

397
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 1: now I'm predicting, predicting a playoff possibility, but I think

398
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: the headline is otherworldly. Trevor Lawrence, I think that will

399
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,400
Speaker 1: get me a lot more trouble, no doubt. Peter Strager,

400
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for taking the time. I

401
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 1: know your schedules packs, so I appreciate you taking a

402
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: few minutes to uh talk to us. Fantastic job is always.

403
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you down the road. I

404
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 1: always appreciate you, my friend. I can't wait to see

405
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 1: again in person. Badly won't be at the combine, but

406
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 1: hopefully soon, John, hopefully soon, Sunday soon, Buddy. We appreciate

407
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: you all right, brother, thank you