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Speaker 2: Those who really believe in the American process, all of

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Sunday. This is Teslion figure Out your

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Speaker 2: Girl Teslim figure Out host a straight shot no chaser.

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Speaker 2: at Teslim figure Out on Instagram. I'm very engaged on

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Speaker 2: few of you do check out my segment every day

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Speaker 2: on the Breakfast Club six am seven am Eastern Standard Time,

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Speaker 2: many things that we are outraged about, upset about, talk

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Speaker 2: expanding coalition of partners and states and cities, and coordinating

437
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Speaker 2: support for survivors like mental health and financial support. George

438
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Speaker 2: Floyd's memory reminds us there is more work to do

439
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Speaker 2: to redeem the soul of America.

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Speaker 4: Here it is.

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Speaker 2: This is where he's saying, he wrote Saturday, let us

442
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Speaker 2: recommit to changing hearts and minds while enacting policies and

443
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Speaker 2: laws that ensure our nation lives up to his founding

444
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Speaker 2: ideas that were all created equal and deserve to be

445
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Speaker 2: treated equally throughout our lives.

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Speaker 3: He concluded.

447
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Speaker 2: So, the reason why the article came out and the

448
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Speaker 2: reason why they're making the connection is at the two

449
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Speaker 2: It's at the bottom, kind of like a defined print.

450
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Speaker 2: They quoted him talking about George Floyd, but they connected

451
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Speaker 2: it at the bottom about because you notice how they

452
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Speaker 2: came out of nowhere, at the bottom where it's saying

453
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Speaker 2: he's been a star supporter of gun reform. What did

454
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Speaker 2: that have to do with what he said about George Floyd.

455
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Speaker 2: So what they're doing is saying that this is one

456
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Speaker 2: of the things that also needs to be done to

457
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Speaker 2: be treated fairly. So I know the connection doesn't make sense.

458
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Speaker 2: And the reason why the connection doesn't make sense is

459
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Speaker 2: because the connection doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 4: Okay, because I thought that was just the Hell being conservative,

461
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Speaker 4: throwing that in the article that had no connection to

462
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Speaker 4: what he was talking about, because the whole article I took,

463
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Speaker 4: I took from it, and I was reading the article

464
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Speaker 4: two even before he brought it up. Once he's talking

465
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Speaker 4: about George Floyd talking about police accountability, police reforms, and

466
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Speaker 4: then I know where they're throwing Oh yeah, you know

467
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Speaker 4: he's been a supporter of gun reforms too, and then

468
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Speaker 4: back to police reforms. I'm like, okay, what's up to

469
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Speaker 4: do with anything? Did he even mention that that's all

470
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Speaker 4: trying to understand? Did he even mention that? Or is

471
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Speaker 4: that the Hill just throwing that in there to make

472
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Speaker 4: a to make a connection. And it wasn't so much

473
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Speaker 4: what Biden did or said. It was the Hill, the rag,

474
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Speaker 4: the political rag, throwing it in there to throw the slant.

475
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Speaker 2: Well, what I can tell you is also if you

476
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Speaker 2: go to the white House dot com, which is not

477
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Speaker 2: the Hell, and let me say, if I can put

478
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Speaker 2: this in the it's on my laptop and say if

479
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Speaker 2: I can put it, and then I'm gonna give you

480
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Speaker 2: some inside game.

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Speaker 4: I read the statement as well too from the White

482
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Speaker 4: House dot gov about it on the fiftieth birthday also

483
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Speaker 4: in there and mentioned nothing but if you go.

484
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Speaker 2: If you go down to to the bottom of it,

485
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Speaker 2: if you look at it, and I just put it

486
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Speaker 2: up in the jump in the jumbo trine, when you

487
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Speaker 2: go down to the bottom of it, the fact she

488
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Speaker 2: Biden hears highlights accomplishments on historic accountability police and a

489
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Speaker 2: strengthen strengthen public safety. So the public safety and the

490
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Speaker 2: gun control. This is what the talking points will be

491
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Speaker 2: out this week. And I'm gonna tell I'm not gonna

492
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Speaker 2: tell you sent me this information. But this information is

493
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Speaker 2: not just the hell because again they just report on

494
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Speaker 2: what people tell them to report report on. And what

495
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say is when that when that connection

496
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Speaker 2: is made, Now, when I sait, hold on a second,

497
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna read something exactly, just so you

498
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Speaker 2: know the back end, this will be a connection where

499
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Speaker 2: they will start talking about, uh, we're trying to read

500
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Speaker 2: it exactly. The US more than one hundred and sixty

501
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Speaker 2: mayors demand Congress act on gun safety legislation, and so

502
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Speaker 2: they're what they're what they're saying is America mayors and

503
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Speaker 2: police chiefs are now doing what they can to locally

504
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Speaker 2: stem gun violence. They need federal help, calling on Congress

505
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Speaker 2: past gun safety legislation, including expanded the background checks band

506
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Speaker 2: on the sub weapons in large capacity magazines. So mayors

507
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Speaker 2: across the country are asking for more gun control. And

508
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: this was a way to bump up and just give

509
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Speaker 2: you the back the background, not just the rag, not

510
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Speaker 2: the heel, but what politicians do to send this stuff

511
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Speaker 2: to get this stuff covered, because it also it bumps

512
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Speaker 2: up the conversation to open up the conversation and say

513
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Speaker 2: what about gun control? And that's why I made the

514
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Speaker 2: statement that I did, gotcha, but he did not keep

515
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Speaker 2: but just I'm sorry, but just for clarity, No, he

516
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Speaker 2: did not say, you know, gun control, we need to

517
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Speaker 2: do something back gun control because of George Floyd, because

518
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Speaker 2: they literally mad made no sense. But when you are

519
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Speaker 2: when you are the president of the United States and

520
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Speaker 2: you're calling for something on the day of something like

521
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Speaker 2: this and you're mentioning, hey, by the way, he should

522
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Speaker 2: be fifty years old, and by the way gun control,

523
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Speaker 2: you're basically sent connecting those two without saying it.

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Speaker 3: If that makes sense, Yeah, I fall you and I

525
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Speaker 3: don't like it.

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Speaker 4: Well, hey, I understand. I mean I didn't quite see

527
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Speaker 4: it that way, but I respect what you're doing in

528
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Speaker 4: I understand that you have your context that I don't.

529
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Speaker 4: Now I'm definitely not privy to, so I'm not you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to challenge that. I was just going

531
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Speaker 4: based off what I could read for some white house

532
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Speaker 4: on the hill. But all that being said, again, thank

533
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Speaker 4: you for your time, and I'll step back down to listen.

534
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Speaker 4: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: You're saying that it's all about how the reader sees it,

536
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: so if I if you see it that way, that's great.

537
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: You know it landed, it made you know, it made

538
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Speaker 2: a point to whoever sees it that way. To somebody

539
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Speaker 2: else that sees the headline and go down to the

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Speaker 2: bottom and see how they connected it at the bottom

541
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Speaker 2: and how they connected to two.

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Speaker 3: They're going to look at it a different way.

543
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Speaker 2: I me personally, I'm looking at it as from having

544
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Speaker 2: a communications firm and knowing this information will sit out

545
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Speaker 2: and knowing how these connections will be made in the

546
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Speaker 2: coming days and weeks ahead. Knowing working with the George

547
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Speaker 2: for family from day one, literally walking into their house

548
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: from day one, or just for blows it don't know.

549
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm turning Crump senior public policy advisors, so

550
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: knowing what has happened behind the scenes, but always trying

551
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: to use this as another conversation to talk about everything else,

552
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: to always use this as a conversation and say, hey,

553
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Speaker 2: what about this and what about that. I was definitely

554
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Speaker 2: speaking from an insider standpoint of what I had witnessed

555
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Speaker 2: throughout this entire ordeal for the last two years. So

556
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Speaker 2: that's so that's where that's coming from. And I wish

557
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Speaker 2: somebody would. I wish somebody would on the inside challenge

558
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Speaker 2: me on it. I wish they would. I wish they would.

559
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Speaker 2: I mean, I swear to God, I wish they would,

560
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Speaker 2: because I spilled tea all over this internet. So, like

561
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Speaker 2: I said, I know exactly why this became what it came.

562
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Speaker 2: And you're going to see it on some of these

563
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Speaker 2: cable news who shall rename nameless, but you're going to

564
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: see this conversation get because see when you're what didn

565
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Speaker 2: I say this and I'll let you, you know, drop

566
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Speaker 2: it down. In the common worlds, you always try to

567
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: have to get a hit. You know what's going to

568
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: be the hit, what's going to be the catch. You

569
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Speaker 2: can't just say un controls. We talked about that nothing's happened,

570
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: hasn't been a shooting that has anything. So hey, let's

571
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: piggyback on George Floyd. Let's make the connection of the two.

572
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: And somebody that I know particularly that wants to talk

573
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Speaker 2: about this because they're running for office. They particularly want

574
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Speaker 2: to talk about this because this is how you get

575
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Speaker 2: it in the media. So it's called earned media, which

576
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: is free media. On how you're able to get a

577
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: story pitched up and you have to attach to something

578
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: national or something you know something else And you typically

579
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Speaker 2: do that on days of anniversaries or days of you

580
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: know something you can you know historic, Hey, if it's

581
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Speaker 2: national such and such a day, Hey, on this day,

582
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Speaker 2: I also want to talk about and such because it

583
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: gives you an opportunity to bump the conversation back up.

584
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Speaker 3: And so it's not just coming from the hill. They

585
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Speaker 3: have no benefit of doing it.

586
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: It's always from a politician behind the scenes and a

587
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Speaker 2: comms person behind the scenes.

588
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Speaker 3: I've rest assure you can bet that for sure because

589
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Speaker 3: I do it.

590
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Speaker 4: We all do it, understand, and I see what they're doing.

591
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Speaker 4: And now I'm definitely having known that, I'll definitely looking

592
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Speaker 4: for that and looking to see if they're trying to

593
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Speaker 4: do this throughout the week because they, Yeah, I understand,

594
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Speaker 4: they heed stuff to the comms teams, they feast out

595
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: of the media to start the conversation, and then next thing,

596
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Speaker 4: you know, by like Tuesday or Wednesday, they having the conversation. Yeah,

597
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 4: here's a press conversation here about this third world and

598
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Speaker 4: that's exactly.

599
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: Like that's literally the directors that were given you know,

600
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Speaker 2: will it opens up the conversation have something? And I said, no,

601
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Speaker 2: it's not going to open it up with me. I'm

602
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: gonna close this bitch down.

603
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: Now.

604
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: Let's close it.

605
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 1: Now.

606
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Speaker 2: Let's just go ahead and say you weren't able to

607
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: pass the George Floyd just in police and act. We

608
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: get it, y'all tried to do it. You couldn't do

609
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: it installed in the Senate. Let's bump it back up.

610
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: But let's not try to make this something else, because

611
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: see you're reading it as oh no, that's not what

612
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden said. Somebody else is reading it as why

613
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: the hell you eve been talking about George Floyd and

614
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: gun reform in the same you know, in the same headline,

615
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: Why even make that connection. Somebody else is saying, oh,

616
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Speaker 2: the Hill did it, somebody like me and saying, no,

617
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Speaker 2: it actually wasn't the Heill.

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Speaker 3: It was such and such calms person that sent it

619
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Speaker 3: up to the Hill to bump up the.

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Speaker 2: Story to now let it slowly change into something else

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Speaker 2: in the day's head So everybody, the reader sees it differently.

622
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Speaker 2: And I just I'm not interested in these kind of

623
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Speaker 2: games when it comes to at least this a lot

624
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Speaker 2: of matters, but in particular George Floyd family because I

625
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: made my commitment to that family personally. The Let's keep

626
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: the main thing the main thing. Let's not use this, y'all,

627
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: pick something else to go in the gun can reform conversation.

628
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: We got mass shootings on a weekly basis. They can

629
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Speaker 2: talk about this wedd mass shooting on last week, talk

630
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Speaker 2: about that for gun reform. Why even include that?

631
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Speaker 3: Why would they? He'll even include that?

632
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: Well, they included because it gets bumped up by politicians

633
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Speaker 2: and a Comm's team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've seen this in the past week. The

635
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Speaker 4: Comm's teams are not always doing making moves that are

636
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Speaker 4: in the I should say, in the at the behast

637
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Speaker 4: of their on their leader, whether that be you know,

638
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: in this case the com scene for Joe Biden or

639
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: like those comms communication. In an article in The Atlantic

640
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: about Kamala Harrison how long she has do her hair

641
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Speaker 4: on a daily basis, I'm like, really, this is what

642
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: you want.

643
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: To put out to see the problem what happens is

644
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Speaker 2: And I'm just looking as we're looking in real time,

645
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Speaker 2: you know. So when you have the he'll do it

646
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Speaker 2: a day, guess who pump bumped it? Bumped it up

647
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Speaker 2: next CBS News, Then who bumped it up next, Black Enterprise.

648
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm looking at five hours.

649
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Speaker 2: So one day it was the hell twenty three hours ago,

650
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Speaker 2: CBS News picked it up and then let and then

651
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Speaker 2: and then let me read this, and then it goes

652
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Speaker 2: five hours later, Black Enterprise, twenty two hours later, must

653
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Speaker 2: read then AP News.

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Speaker 3: See, this ain't no game. This is not like something

655
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Speaker 3: that just happens. This is not just happens, you know.

656
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Speaker 2: So I they take it and they pull it and

657
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Speaker 2: then it just like I said, it goes into a

658
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Speaker 2: big ball of and what about while we're here, let's

659
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Speaker 2: also talk about gum reform. I get it, like it's

660
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: sometimes it's necessary to do that because you have to

661
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Speaker 2: talk about whatever, you know, the thing is for that day.

662
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: You have to use that opportunity to get something in

663
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Speaker 2: the news, just this one particular thing, just because I

664
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Speaker 2: am it is closer to me, you know, closer to home,

665
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Speaker 2: more personal to me. I took offense because I see

666
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Speaker 2: what you're doing, and I know what they're doing without

667
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Speaker 2: a fact, and I wish somebody would challenge me on it.

668
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Speaker 4: Gotcha, No, I see we're going with it. I see it,

669
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Speaker 4: I see what I see what you's talking about. I

670
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Speaker 4: see the place, not the.

671
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Speaker 2: Place right when they're saying, oh, the memory reminds of

672
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: there's so much more to do with the redemption of

673
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: our souls, and let's change hearts and reconnect enacting policies

674
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: and laws that ensure our nations live or found an idea.

675
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: He's not just talking about police Department's also talking about

676
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Speaker 2: gun control. He's just not saying it. There's nothing wrong

677
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Speaker 2: with talking about gun control. Just talking about gun control

678
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: we don't have to include George Floyd's daughter and the

679
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: family as a way to get the messed up about

680
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: gun control, right.

681
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Speaker 4: Totally understand that. Yeah, you like jumping from that to

682
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Speaker 4: tom gun control then preparations exactly.

683
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Speaker 2: And that's what happened because when it because I'm telling you,

684
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: the politicians literally trying to convince me. Oh but you

685
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: know the state and local, Uh, they work hand in hand,

686
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: and this is another opportunity to work hand in hand,

687
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: and they both pulled from the same I'm telling you,

688
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: they were trying to convince me. That's really true when

689
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 2: you really want to true be talked. That's really why

690
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: I put it out therecause somebody's trying to convince me

691
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna convince me that this has one

692
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Speaker 2: thing to do with the other because it doesn't. So

693
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: just to prove a point because I like to go

694
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: against the grain. You really want to know that was

695
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: really just directly let somebody know I'm with you when

696
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: you're right and I'm not with you when when I

697
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: we just gonna have to just disagree on this. I

698
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: just didn't throw the person under the bus. But the

699
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: person that knows that know why I need to do this.

700
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Speaker 3: They don't trust me on the same page.

701
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 4: And that was my places.

702
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: We just really tell it, spilling the tea. That was

703
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: my way to let them know, don't try it. Let's

704
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: you tried it, and let's let's proceed on. Let's let's

705
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: switch topics. Because I still go to brunch on a

706
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: monthly basis with this family. So I'm feeling I take

707
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Speaker 2: the personal.

708
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Speaker 4: I see I stay on the neck. I ain't mad

709
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Speaker 4: at you. Thank you. I appreciate you being an advocate.

710
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, being very not advocate, So

711
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Speaker 4: I appreciate everything you do.

712
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Speaker 3: You thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: That a great question, by the way, all right, y'all

714
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 5: any other questions I gave us build a lot of team.

715
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Speaker 2: We got it on the Live on the Straight Shot,

716
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: no taste of podcasts. For those of you are interested

717
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Speaker 2: in training, I do have a training called push the

718
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: Line Politics until something happens. We did a free training

719
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: in Atlanta last year where three hundred people came where

720
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: we trained candidates, operatives, and organizers. And you get a

721
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Speaker 2: lot of this inside stuff that I'm talking about. A

722
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Speaker 2: lot of the comms training, though, that is something separate

723
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: that I do that you don't necessarily get at that

724
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: particular training that's like the basic your basic starter kit.

725
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Speaker 2: People really really enjoyed it. It was very expensive to do,

726
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Speaker 2: so I wasn't able to do it this year. But

727
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Speaker 2: what I have decided to do because so many people said, hey,

728
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Speaker 2: can you come bring that training to the city, and

729
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: I felt terrible, you know, asking people to pay for it.

730
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Speaker 3: I just don't feel comfortable doing that.

731
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Speaker 2: What y'all office to do is go on YouTube saying

732
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Speaker 2: I'm grifting y'all and who grifting this?

733
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: And who's grifting that?

734
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Speaker 2: Because, by the way, I want to run a for

735
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Speaker 2: profit organization a nonprofit. I charge my clients to work

736
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Speaker 2: for them happily and quickly and immediately, so I don't

737
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Speaker 2: the consumer. My my client is not the consumer. You know,

738
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Speaker 2: My trainings and my consulting is usually you know, again

739
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: for organizations or candidates or their teams. But so many

740
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: people got so much out of this that I did,

741
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: you know, want to continue the training. So and instead

742
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Speaker 2: of going to every city and asking me to pay

743
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty dollars for five hours worth of training,

744
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Speaker 2: which is actually worth it, by the way, I just

745
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: said you know, I don't have the time to try to,

746
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Speaker 2: you know, get people to pay for it and look

747
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Speaker 2: for the cheapest location and all of that. So what

748
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Speaker 2: I did was, since Instagram now has a subscription, that

749
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Speaker 2: is where I will do the training. So it is

750
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Speaker 2: for ninety nine a month. I'm letting you know flat

751
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Speaker 2: out where that money goes. Marcellis is in the building

752
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: right now. Marcellis does helps me with a lot my

753
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Speaker 2: research on doing front Page News. He's also managing the

754
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: front Page News channel with me as well, and I

755
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: will be offering that training. So if you want to

756
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: have access, I tried to do it online with zoom

757
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: on Twitter. You know, the Twitter trolls came in and

758
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: it just became distracting. So if you want that type

759
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: of training, it really is a good training. The curriculum

760
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: I created myself. I will be bringing in a couple

761
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: of other trainers with me and you learn all of

762
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: the basic steps that if you want to run for office.

763
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Speaker 2: If you want to be a candidate, I mean an operative,

764
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: which means work on somebody's campaign. You want to be

765
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Speaker 2: a campaign manager, field director, communications person. We have a

766
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Speaker 2: train for that, and we have a training for an organized,

767
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: and organizer means like if you want to organize for

768
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Speaker 2: an issue like reparations, like Medicare for All, like social Security,

769
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: whatever it is an issue, that means maybe you want

770
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Speaker 2: to get an issue on the ballot. Maybe you want

771
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Speaker 2: to just be an advocate for something. Maybe you want

772
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Speaker 2: your advocacy to actually turn into a pack which I've

773
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Speaker 2: told you guys many times before that a lot of

774
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: you need to do on this Twitter. So that training,

775
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: I'm doing all of that. Subscribe on my instrum grand

776
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: page just four ninety nine a month. I'm telling what

777
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: we're doing with the money. I give it to a

778
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: salary for Marcellas. And then also it's going to get

779
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: that training going. We need enough people on there that

780
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Speaker 2: want to do the training for me to do it.

781
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna do it live, and we're gonna do

782
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Speaker 2: you know, We're gonna go through the steps just like

783
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Speaker 2: I would if we were in person, and hopefully next

784
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Speaker 2: year we can have another in person one.

785
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Speaker 3: I just wasn't interested in going around. You know, I

786
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: tried it.

787
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Speaker 2: I said, well let me see if I can get

788
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Speaker 2: people to you know, because I can't just keep pocketing it.

789
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Speaker 2: You know. Up you know front, putting all the cost

790
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Speaker 2: stuff myself, and I tried to come up with something

791
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Speaker 2: as reasonable as possible. Like I said, it was one

792
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars for five sessions, just so you know.

793
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: My rates are two hundred and fifty dollars an hour,

794
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: by the way, and I make no apology with that.

795
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: I am a for profit organization and I don't charge

796
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: people on Instagram or Twitter. But once I put that

797
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: out there for the training, I just didn't feel good

798
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: doing it because what y'all notfice to do is sit

799
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: up here and run no campaign on YouTube about me Griffin,

800
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Speaker 2: so you can keep your little twenty five dollars or

801
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: whatever it is.

802
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: That's what y'all notfice to do.

803
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: Because I see I'll do that lat y'all love talking

804
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: about who grifting and who ain't grifting, and who's stealing

805
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: and who ain't stealing, and so yeah, so I decided, yeah,

806
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: let me not do that. Let me just go ahead

807
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: and stick to test some figure out communications group, which,

808
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: by the way, just want I just won an award

809
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: as from the US Department of Commerce for Minority Entrepreneur

810
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: of the Year. One of my clients dominated me, nurses, etc.

811
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Speaker 2: Which is a sixty billion, a sixty million dollar organization.

812
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: So I have real clients. My clients are not on

813
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Speaker 2: Instagram and Twitter, and no disrespect, I'm just saying that

814
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Speaker 2: because I see some new people in the room who

815
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: also know what I'm talking about. Because you know, y'all

816
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 2: love doing YouTube channels about how somebody grifting and stealing

817
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: and I took fifty dollars from you and all that

818
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: you can keep your little fifty dollars. The training I

819
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: did was for free to give you this game. You

820
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: want it, you want it, you don't, you don't, and

821
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: so I'm willing to do it again for the low

822
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: low price of four ninety nine on the Instagram just

823
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: because so many people wanted. And the rest of the

824
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Speaker 2: money we giving over to marcellis because by the way,

825
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: I pay Marcellers out of my pocket. So just so

826
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Speaker 2: y'all know that in case Marcello's ever try to switch up,

827
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Speaker 2: cause I know I don't seen that happen too in

828
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Speaker 2: the HOTEP community, in the real.

829
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Speaker 3: High housewives of Hoteps. I see some of y'all in

830
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Speaker 3: the building.

831
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Speaker 2: Y'all keep the drama going, and what Marcelli's is notice

832
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: to do is two years down the road, say that

833
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Speaker 2: I don't I use him up. No, he get paid

834
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Speaker 2: monthly in advance, the whole month in advance. So he

835
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: helps me with front page news because I ain't nobody

836
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Speaker 2: using nobody. So we just want to put that on

837
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Speaker 2: the record, y'all. Make sure Juicy, I see you in

838
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Speaker 2: the Bible to make sure you document that in the

839
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Speaker 2: file so that way, if Marcelli's ever tried, I can say, y'all,

840
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Speaker 2: remember when I told y'all I paid Marcellis on a

841
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Speaker 2: monthly basis, okay, and want to make sure because you

842
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: know y'all like to do that, y'all like to do

843
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: year long campaigns or who's griffin and who aint grifting? Which,

844
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Speaker 2: by the way, I'll be looking at it all that.

845
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Speaker 2: By the way, y'all, I just don't say nothing. I

846
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: look at all the same shit, y'all look at I

847
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: just don't say nothing. Anybody else want to join in

848
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: on straight shot, no chase, sir, or we will go

849
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Speaker 2: ahead and close close this podcast on that. I appreciate

850
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: the brother And basically he said, you know, he didn't

851
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: see Joe Biden saying what I said, and I appreciate,

852
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Speaker 2: you know, him respectfully disagreeing, and I appreciate him being

853
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: open to what I know they're doing, but hind the scenes,

854
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: because the comms people send it to me, so there's

855
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Speaker 2: always you know, what you see on the outside is

856
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: not always what's.

857
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Speaker 3: Going on on the inside. And so I didn't appreciate that.

858
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Speaker 2: I put it out there because I wanted them to know,

859
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Speaker 2: stop it right now, don't try to make your way

860
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: around everybody else trying to change the conversation. And I

861
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: meant that, and so that's just what that is. There's

862
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: always inside game going on. I assume maybe he was

863
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Speaker 2: a Joe Biden support.

864
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

865
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Speaker 2: I don't want to guess, but no, Joe Biden did

866
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: not literally say out his mouth. But I'm just letting

867
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: you know that that headline didn't just pop up after

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00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: Blue as well, and it was not a conspiracy uh,

869
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: because I don't come up with conspiracy theories. I know

870
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: y'all do that enough on YouTube. It's enough conspiracy theories.

871
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I know what was sent around to

872
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: Comm's people because they actually run a communications firm, and

873
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: I didn't like it, and I didn't appreciate it. Let's

874
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: see what Ron has to say before we get out

875
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: of here. How Ron, and again, I don't know who

876
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: none of these people are because I don't know a

877
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: lot of these names.

878
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: So we just we're just going wrong with it. What's

879
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: having to run?

880
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: Look, everything got going on. I just wanted to ask

881
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: you about how do you feel about Cornell West as

882
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: a presidential candidate and do you think that he deserved

883
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: for black people to get behind him?

884
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: Great question.

885
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: Well, we interviewed doctor West on the Breakfast Club. I

886
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: worked with doctor West personally in twenty fifteen. You know,

887
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Sanders campaign. I always appreciated how he

888
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: looked out for black people. You know, I give it

889
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: to y'all wrong. You know, y'all get a little bit

890
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: of the nsit with me. I appreciated how he looked

891
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: out for black people on their campaign while others did not.

892
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: He made sure and I'm just giving it to you

893
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: straight up. You know, he made sure that black people,

894
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: at least the staffers. When I started working with Bernie

895
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: Sanders in twenty fifteen, you know, which is why I

896
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: call him out all the time. It was only about

897
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 2: ten of us that were part of his African American

898
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: Outreach team, and I'm talking about on the national level,

899
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: people didn't even know who Bernie Sanders was. And every

900
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: time Doctor West was around. This is just my personal

901
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: experience with him. He always made sure that we were

902
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: not invisible, because we were invisible many times on that campaign,

903
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: and everybody who worked on that campaign knows it. And

904
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: after I called him out and even found a lawsuit

905
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: for the anti black racism, many other staffers I believe

906
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: over ten came up and spoke up as well.

907
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: So we were ignored in a lot of ways.

908
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: And so I've always respected doctor West from making sure

909
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: that we were seeing in that building, make sure. Matter

910
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: of fact, I remember one time it was in Michigan,

911
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: I believe, and they wanted all the white folks to

912
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: come on the stage and kind of shun me and Michelle.

913
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, y'all can just stand to the side,

914
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: and Doctor West was like, no, my sisters need to

915
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: come up here with me. So I've always respected him

916
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: for that, just as a person, as a human being.

917
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: With that said, I think it's important and in my

918
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: training push the line I talk about people need to

919
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: run as disruptor candidates.

920
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: I think anybody should run.

921
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: You should have, especially some of y'all, you know, to

922
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: be centered on Twitter, space landing planes all day. Y'all

923
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: should have be on ballots everywhere, whether windows or draw

924
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with challenging the system. I appreciate the

925
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: fact that he did that. I know he came out

926
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: with the Green Party at first, I mean other People's Party,

927
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: and then now he has left that and became independent.

928
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: There were some questions about the People's Party that people had,

929
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, with him running as an

930
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: independent is great, and I think if people want to

931
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: get behind him, I'm want to be very honest with you.

932
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: Doctor West talks about a global you know, a wee thing.

933
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: He does speak very specifically about black people, but he

934
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: also does talk about poor and middle class white people.

935
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 3: He just does.

936
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: What I appreciate is that's always been his message. You know,

937
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: some people change their message on the yearly basis, and

938
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: y'all just follow whatever they say on every other year basis.

939
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: You know, one minute they talking about that, the next

940
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: minute they talking about this. I appreciate consistency. And so

941
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: doctor West has always talked about the poor, the disenfranchised,

942
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: the middle class and that doesn't just include black people,

943
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: but he does have a strong black message. I think

944
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: that more black people should be in the progressive movement.

945
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: If you ask me, black people should be running the

946
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 2: progressive movement, and it's not. It's ran by white folks.

947
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: So just the same way I think you need black

948
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: people in the Progressive Party, it's really not a party

949
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: but a movement. I think you need more black people

950
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: in the Republican Party in the conservative movement because those

951
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: are two different things. Obviously, we got plenty of black

952
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: people in the Democrat Party, but not always the right

953
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: type of Democrats, and that's where you have the progressive side.

954
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: So if you get behind doctor West, then you can

955
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: expect him to talk about everybody.

956
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: That's just what it is.

957
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: This idea of only talking about black people just you know,

958
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: it don't make no sense. But what I can tell

959
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: you is he is fault for the least of these

960
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: for the last forty years. So black people are on

961
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: board with that, not all black people, because there's plenty

962
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: of black conservatives that don't believe in the things that

963
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: doctor West is talking about, you know, and that's fine too.

964
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, most black people are raised up on

965
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: conservative values. So that's what I always.

966
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: Finds so funny people think I can't say in conservatives.

967
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 4: Wrong.

968
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: Got plenty of conservative those of you actually know my talk,

969
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: my conversation, my pocket, have plenty of conservative black friends.

970
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: What I don't like is people playing games with black

971
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: people that go for conservative or Democrat conservative or Democrat liberal, progressive, uh,

972
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: you name it across the board. I don't like people

973
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: using black people. So when you see me going off

974
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: on somebody the breakfast because I got a problem with

975
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: somebody being a conservative Republican, I got a problem with

976
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: them with them.

977
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: So and really real quick, you know, and shout out

978
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: to that.

979
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: So, how do you how do you feel about the

980
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: fact that we got people that's willing to listen to

981
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: these white conservatives or white liberals, you know what I mean,

982
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: regardless of whatever they have and they passed you know

983
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: what I mean as far as anti blackness and not

984
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: listen to a man like you said, that's being consistent

985
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: on his stance for the past forty years, you know

986
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you feel like that's the sickness,

987
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: Like do you feel like that's like media spend where

988
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: you think that about I.

989
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: Think human nature wants to get behind a winner. You know,

990
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: people want to know they can win.

991
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 4: You know.

992
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: Even there's only a few things when we look at

993
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: human nature.

994
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: You know, like if your team football, for example, there's

995
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: some riders that no matter what, they're gonna ride with

996
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. If nobody's in the stands, they're gonna ride

997
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: regardless when lose or drawn.

998
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: You know.

999
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: And politics is a sport.

1000
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: It's to a lot of people, it's a sport, and

1001
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: for the most part, people want to bet on the winner.

1002
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: So when people don't think people have a shot, and

1003
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: they're like, well you really don't have a shot, let

1004
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: me put my energy over here is probably better over here.

1005
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: I don't win to play attention. Everybody don't fight for

1006
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: the underdog. And so anytime you're going up against the establishment,

1007
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: it's the underdog, whether they're black, white, yellow, green, purple, whatever.

1008
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: It's hard to get people to go with the underdog.

1009
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: And so what I'm always trying to tell people to

1010
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: keep it one hundred people. I like people running as

1011
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: a disruptor candidate and saying I am a disrupted candidate.

1012
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: For example, jank Uger, who I believe is that ugger

1013
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: I made yeah right, he's running and I played this

1014
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: clay on the Brekfast Club. He said, I know I

1015
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: don't have a chance in hell. I am a candidate

1016
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: that is a break break glass in case of emergency candidate.

1017
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: I know that I don't have a chance in winning,

1018
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: but I'm doing it because ain't nobody else gonna do it.

1019
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate those type of candidates. You know, they say

1020
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: flat out, I don't have a chance in hell. I'm

1021
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: just running to give y'all hard time. Those are called

1022
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: disruptor candidates. More people will get behind that than somebody

1023
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: who's running for president. No, they don't have a chance

1024
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: in hell, can't win, doll catching. I'm not talking about

1025
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: doctor West. Then people who will get behind James. So

1026
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 2: I believe in disruption campaigns. I think they're important. They're

1027
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: not about winning. Even Doctor West said that it's not

1028
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: about winning, it's about his message. Look at Baby Ramasawmi.

1029
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: He don't have a chance in hell, but look at

1030
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: his messaging. His messaging is out there. Whether people like

1031
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: it or not, his messaging is out there. He got

1032
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: a helier when we went back and forth on the

1033
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: Brothers Club. I salute to him. Because he had fifty

1034
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: thousd Let me give y'all the numbers. Over sixty thousand

1035
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: people put comments under that interview.

1036
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: Do you know how many people put comments under the

1037
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 3: Joe by Would y'all agree?

1038
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: And I'm just asking the room, asking the class, I

1039
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: want you to put a one hundred if you agree

1040
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: with me?

1041
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: Would y'all agree that?

1042
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: At least in the last ten years, one of the

1043
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: most popular political interviews was when Joe Biden said you

1044
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: ain't black?

1045
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: Would you put a one hundred if you agree with that?

1046
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that?

1047
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 4: Ron that?

1048
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 3: That probably was a big viral moment right.

1049
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: Right.

1050
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

1051
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: How many comments do you think went under that interview

1052
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: you ain't Black?

1053
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: Like ten thousand? Okay, let me ask you this. Let

1054
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 3: me give you the numbers.

1055
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: For those of you that don't know, The Breakfast Club

1056
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: is in ninety radio markets, meaning actually on the dial,

1057
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: because I don't think a lot of people realize. It's

1058
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: interesting that people don't realize that the Breakfast Club is

1059
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 2: actually a radio show. So ninety three point seven, ninety

1060
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: five point five and ninety markets, they have eight million

1061
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: listeners that listen just on the radio and then after

1062
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: that it goes to the iHeart podcast. Like my podcast

1063
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: on iHeart, we're both on the Black Effect podcast network.

1064
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: There are twenty million people that listen a month just

1065
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: on the podcast. So you have eight million that listen

1066
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: on the radio, twenty million that listen on podcasts, and

1067
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: now would be et It's in ninety million homes and

1068
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: now obviously everybody have be ET's and not watching it.

1069
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to give you the range.

1070
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: So on a monthly basis, just people that listen to

1071
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: the show, there's over thirty million people that just listen

1072
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: to the show as a behavior. That's not including when

1073
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 2: stuff goes viral TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, Fox News, CNN, MSBC,

1074
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: just over twenty million listen. So I'm gonna ask you again,

1075
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: if that was one of the most popular viral interviews,

1076
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: how many comments do you think went under that particular interview.

1077
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: I just threw a number out there, but said, what

1078
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: like fifty hundred.

1079
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a great number.

1080
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: You know why This is why I would say that's

1081
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 2: a great number because when we talk about engage because

1082
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: us I wanted you to just throw it out there.

1083
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: When we talk about engagement, If I got one hundred

1084
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: thousand followers and I have one hundred people that engage

1085
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: on my Instagram post, that's a one percent return. Just

1086
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: so you guys know you're doing good if you get

1087
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: anywhere from a one to a three percent return on engagement.

1088
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: Look at your followers and look at how many people engage.

1089
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: Now that's also fighting through people that actually see your

1090
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: posts because the algorithms, you know, people have to see

1091
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: your posts. That's why when I post something about relationships,

1092
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: like I was explained at the beginning of the podcast,

1093
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: When I post something about relationships and I get six

1094
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: hundred comments, that's double the engagement I should get because

1095
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: I only have one hundred thousand followers, So that means

1096
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: a really, really high engagement. So it bumps up all

1097
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: my other posts about the real ship that I want

1098
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: you to know about. So you did a very good number,

1099
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: actually very low, because if I'm telling you twenty million

1100
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: listen and you're saying, oh, about one hundred thousand probably posts, well,

1101
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: guess what, Ron only twenty four thousand engaged on that interview.

1102
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: On the last time I checked on the Breakfast Club

1103
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. You know how many engaged with vibig Ramasami

1104
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: fifty thousand engaged. I'm not talking saw it. I'm talking

1105
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: about engage. What that means is, folks, they didn't just

1106
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: see it. They went in and made a comment. That's

1107
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: a whole other level of engagement. They doubled the amount

1108
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: of the Joe Biden, which we would all agree is

1109
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: one of the most popular viral interviews in.

1110
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 3: The last ten years.

1111
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: And guess how many people actually watched it on the

1112
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club less than two thousand. You know how many

1113
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: people watched it on Joe Biden on just the Breakfast

1114
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 2: Club channel two million?

1115
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

1116
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: That means that what I told y'all, he literally created

1117
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: a PR campaign, literally had people go in and post

1118
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: on that interview. I salute while y'all laughed and said,

1119
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: oh it ain't a PR campaign. Oh yes it is, Oh,

1120
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: it absolutely is. And email went out told people go go, go,

1121
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: immediately go. They got a hell of an army.

1122
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 4: I solution.

1123
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: It just didn't get past me, brother, because I know

1124
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: how the numbers work. I know how the numbers work.

1125
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: So when fifty thousand people go up and say, oh, man,

1126
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: she's angry, O man, she's oh she's angry black woman.

1127
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't like it when she said this.

1128
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 3: Oh manh no no dah.

1129
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: All of that was strategic one to reduce my credibility

1130
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: because they've already talked about Charlot Mane and MB for

1131
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: thirteen years about what they don't know and what they

1132
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: did and what they had, so meta, they got to

1133
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: go in and reduce my credibility. Oh yeah, angry black women.

1134
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: This is why you anger black women. Oh yeah, angry

1135
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: black woman. That anger black woman. Oros she's so angrycy

1136
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: so angry. In addition to that, it probably was about

1137
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 2: fifty to seventy videos made from black commentarators who want

1138
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: to be desperately want to be the next Candide owns

1139
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: call me everything of a child of God, using them

1140
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: the tagline hashtag breakfast club, hashtag vivid Ramasami. So they

1141
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: wanted to get picked up because they wanted me to

1142
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: respond because they think of emotional They're wrong, Actually I'm not.

1143
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: So they were waiting on me to respond so we

1144
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: could have some back and forth, you know, beef, some

1145
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: wrapper beef, so I could say something and they could

1146
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: case something never gonna happen. You would have been better

1147
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: off just inviting me to the show HOMEI that was

1148
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: lame in whack. I'm a real g for real. I

1149
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: didn't fall for it. So you had that in addition

1150
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: of that, So you had his army out there doing that.

1151
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: You have fifty thousand people that come over to the

1152
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: to the Breakfast Club YouTube channel pushing a message saying

1153
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: all is to say, Ron, it's not that everybody's just

1154
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: behind Vivid Ramasami. They're just more strategic conservatives. I take

1155
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: my hat off to them. Democrats have never learned that

1156
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: type of messaging. Black people don't have that type of

1157
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: messaging when it comes even to issues that we care about.

1158
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: To the what y'all call the grants roots.

1159
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: One reason I give y'all credit on Twitter, and y'all know,

1160
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: y'all hear me talk about this all the time, and

1161
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: I know a lot of y'all don't like it, but

1162
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: y'all push a hell of a line on this Twitter,

1163
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: a hell of a line. It is what made reparations

1164
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: come to the conversation come to the forefront in twenty twenty.

1165
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: But the reality of it is the folks that are

1166
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: pushing the message the hardest. Only had like thirty forty

1167
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: thousand followers. You don't need a bunch of followers to

1168
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: get your message bumped up. You just need strategy and

1169
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: discipline and post over and over and over and over

1170
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: and over and over and over. And it's something that

1171
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: y'all do well on Twitter, you do very well. You

1172
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: just don't organize it outside of Twitter. That's where the

1173
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: where the mistakes comes in. So it made it look

1174
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 2: like a lot of people supported something when in actuality,

1175
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: when you look at the numbers, it might only be

1176
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: ten or twenty thousand, But when ten or twenty thousand

1177
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: are saying it over and over and over and over

1178
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 2: and over it, that's when you're like, oh, wow, man,

1179
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: this person has a lot of support. This person out

1180
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: and then now people get behind that person. So it's

1181
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: not run that black people are not behind him, or

1182
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: black people are behind something else. The strategy is just better.

1183
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: The messing is just better. There's more discipline. Before y'all

1184
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: started beefing on Twitter with all these different gang this

1185
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: gang over here, this gang over there, this, imagine if

1186
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: all y'all got together and talked about reparations and had

1187
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: a pack all together. So it's just strategy brother. That's

1188
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: all a lack of strategy, a lack of leadership, and

1189
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: way too much ego. And that's the problem. And that's

1190
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: why he can look like a much longer candidate than

1191
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: he actually is, because he's running a pr campaign and unfortunately,

1192
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: we just don't have enough of that on the issues

1193
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: that you know that you're probably that you may be

1194
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: concerned about.

1195
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 3: And again shout out to doctor West.

1196
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: I support him, but I'm going to be very honest

1197
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: and say I don't like it when white people are

1198
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: in charge of your messaging. And he hired a white

1199
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: campaign manager, so hey, there you go, as far as

1200
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: I'm concerned, you know, just being real, And I love

1201
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: doctor West dearly and respect him. I drove him from

1202
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: Michigan to Chicago through the night, like literally, I was

1203
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: nervous as hell because it was after a rally. I

1204
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: was like, oh, Lord, please don't let me kill DODR.

1205
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:41,959
Speaker 4: West.

1206
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: Lord, don't let me kill the scholar, you know. But

1207
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: I drove him in the middle of the night, tired

1208
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: of hell. So I have an immense amount of respect,

1209
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: But I want to see black people in cons positions.

1210
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 3: I want to see black people doing messaging. I want

1211
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: to see more black people doing packs.

1212
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: I want to see all this stuff that y'all do

1213
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: on Twitter actually in a political action committee.

1214
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: People should be hiring y'all.

1215
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: Wall y'all sit up doing all these disrecords and I

1216
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: don't care because they made disrecords about me. I know

1217
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: they're listening, and I don't give it down. What I'm

1218
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: telling you is you're wasting your talent. It's something called

1219
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: a five to twenty seven. People should be hiring you

1220
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: to do that because doing it on Twitter, it lands nowhere.

1221
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 2: It really lands nowhere. You should really should be getting

1222
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 2: hired to do that. Shout out to Asian and the building.

1223
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: I see a former candidate I know, Adrian Bell. Shout

1224
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 2: out to you. It's Candidates Center right now. Former candidate's

1225
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: in there right now that could have used your help

1226
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: for a five to twenty seven. Five to twenty seven, guys,

1227
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: that's a pack that goes after your opponents while y'all

1228
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: sitting up in the studio should have been doing that.

1229
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 3: I've done it many times. I've done it against Chris Chris.

1230
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: I got a whole plethora of receipts that I did

1231
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 2: on opposition campaigns and opposition research. So you're really wasting

1232
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: your talent rather than you're making disrecords about me. You

1233
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 2: should be trying to figure out tells how to put

1234
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: me in the game, coach, That's what you should be doing.

1235
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: But you thought it was more helpful to make disrecords

1236
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: about me. So baby, carry on.

1237
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would never make it.

1238
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: About you, said, man, like I said, shut out to you,

1239
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because luck to everything's got

1240
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate.

1241
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 3: Do you support doctor West? Is that why you asked?

1242
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, definitely, you know what I mean, because I

1243
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: feel like you speak more to the issues that I like,

1244
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, I man, he deserves,

1245
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: he deserved the same era that all these other candidates getting,

1246
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'd like to complain about,

1247
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We like the accused of

1248
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: being white nationalist, racist and all this other ship. Here

1249
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: we got a man right here that I've been, you

1250
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean, fighting for our issues for like

1251
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: you said, for decades, you know what I mean, because

1252
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: the whole time.

1253
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 3: Well I think a lot of that.

1254
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: I've seen the interview that y'all did too, and yeah,

1255
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: shout out to that, you know what I mean, because yeah,

1256
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: y'all got like the biggest platform that he hadn't been on,

1257
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: so besides a Fox News.

1258
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: And that was only five minutes at best, we had

1259
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: them all, you know, for forty five minutes. So yeah, no,

1260
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 2: I if you you know, get behind an advocate form.

1261
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 2: You know, I tell people this. You know, I don't

1262
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 2: work for these campaigns. So when people say why you

1263
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: ain't supported, hold on, wait a minute. I actually run

1264
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: a communications business, so I don't work for these campaigns.

1265
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: You know. The best thing that I can do for

1266
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: a campaign is not be on your ass. So Candidas

1267
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: just prefer I stay off they ass. But I don't

1268
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: work for them, So don't look for me to fan

1269
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: out behind no candidate. You know, every now and then

1270
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: I will say something like I just shout out to

1271
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: Adrian Bell. You know, ran in Texas, great great candidates,

1272
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: so I do, you know, show love. But don't don't

1273
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: be expecting me to be nobody's director, not you. I'm

1274
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: just saying it just in the atmosphere. Don't expect me

1275
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: to be no director communications. Go tell the white boy

1276
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: to do it. That's what you'll over there paying at

1277
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: ten fifteen thousand dollars, but not Cornet West. But that's

1278
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: the average, you know price. So I run a real business.

1279
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: So I don't you know that, ain't don't look for

1280
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: me to be no director.

1281
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 3: I will interview them.

1282
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: I will give them time and space, you know, to

1283
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: make their case and you know, but I don't. I

1284
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: don't work for the campaign. That's where volunteers and you know,

1285
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: and and voters come in.

1286
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: That's not what I do. I run a business, a

1287
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 3: communications business.

1288
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: Big difference. I appreciate, Sirry excuse me, Good evening, he laughed.

1289
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: And whoever this guy is, they blocked me. He showed

1290
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: me what time was he blocked a lot. Go ahead back,

1291
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: good evening.

1292
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 6: I wanted to commend you for calling out the White

1293
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 6: House's statement conflating George Floyd, you know, his the tragedy

1294
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 6: that he and his family endured with the the the

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Speaker 6: gun violence. And it was for me kind of reminiscent

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Speaker 6: of when we were on a momentum, or had some

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Speaker 6: minum going with reparations and the discussion with reparations, and

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Speaker 6: then we got a Juneteenth Bill and it kind of

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Speaker 6: distracted from the whole movement and the discussions about reparation.

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Speaker 6: So you know the bait and switch, and we can't

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Speaker 6: fall forward, and we have to call it out when

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Speaker 6: we see it and where we see it. So I

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Speaker 6: want to commend you for that. And I also wanted

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Speaker 6: to share with your audience my plight with Harvard University

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Speaker 6: and the fact that I have the only modern day

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00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 6: reparations lawsuit pending in the United States, and that my complaint,

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Speaker 6: my reparation's lawsuit, is the only modern day complaint involving

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00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 6: reparations that has survived a motion to dismiss and will

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Speaker 6: go to judgment. And what I want to share is

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Speaker 6: we have to keep this flight alive. We have to

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Speaker 6: keep not only in regards to my complaint, but the

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Speaker 6: discussion about reparations. It's too important. This is the civil

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00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 6: rights issue of our day, and we can't sit quietly

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Speaker 6: while this kind.

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Speaker 2: Has in the.

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Speaker 6: History of this this country has paid reparation so many

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Speaker 6: times before and has encouraged other countries to do the

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Speaker 6: right thing, but has never done the right thing by

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01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 6: the descendants of American chattel slavery. And I believe one

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01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 6: way to force this issue is to hold up a

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01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 6: mirror to not only the United states, but to the

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01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 6: courts and say this is what the law says, and

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01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 6: we are entitled to the law and demand justice. And

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01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 6: so you know, I'm encouraging people, you know, to bring

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01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 6: cases when it relates to property and plunder because this

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01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 6: is this we all, if we look in our histories,

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 6: can point to where something was plundered from our ancestors

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Speaker 6: and if you have there And I'm represented by Attorney Crump,

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Speaker 6: but our case is the only modern day case. My

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 6: enslaved ancestors are on the docket in Massachusetts right now

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Speaker 6: and it will go to judge. And so you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying that there are two ways to keep

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01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 6: this before the public, one in the court of public

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Speaker 6: opinion and one in the court for justice. And so

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Speaker 6: I just encourage people to, you know, do their research,

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Speaker 6: find out who they are, find out what was taken

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Speaker 6: from them, ensue for the right to have it back.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you said it, and I see some

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: people laughing, So let me clear this on up, you know,

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: right quick, because I'm about to get on one as well.

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Speaker 2: So you're probably I don't know, if you've made all

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01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: do public policy. I work with a turning Crown for

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01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: a public policy. I'm not his staff or anything like that,

1344
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: you know, but while they laughing in case y'all ain't

1345
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: figured it out, you're not getting anywhere if you don't

1346
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: get a foul of lawsuit. Me let me say it

1347
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: one time. You don't get any claim unless you foil

1348
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: a lawsuit. So at some point in time, you're gonna

1349
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: have to get off Twitter laughing and landing planes and

1350
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: actually file filing a lawsuit. Like the sister said, that's

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01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: really just what it comes down to it. Unless you

1352
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: plan on you either legislation, which you see how hard

1353
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 2: that is. That needs to happen at the state level first,

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: the city level of state and the federal And I

1355
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: don't see none of you running for state office like

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Speaker 2: I have to ask you, like I told.

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Speaker 3: You to last year. I don't see nobody putting it.

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01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: I see plenty people running for Congress and play people

1359
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: running for the president, but I don't see nobody running

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01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: for state yet. I have asked again at the reparations

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Speaker 2: rally last year, who is running in California as a

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Speaker 2: state rep? Because if it goes through the once the

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01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: recommendations go through, who is going to be there to vote,

1364
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: and I still have yet to get an answer. And

1365
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: remember when y'all told me, oh, what pesn't doing here?

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Speaker 2: This ain't got none to do with politics. Well, oops,

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01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: it got everything to do with politics. Because you cannot

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01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: pass any legislation which is a law, without somebody voting

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01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: on it. So don't you think it will behoove you

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01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: to have somebody that you actually that actually advocates for you,

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01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: not begging the people that have already made their mind

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Speaker 2: up that they're not going to do it, but actually

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01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: putting somebody in place that could actually vote for what

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01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 2: you're looking for. So if you're not running again for state,

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01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: and I know, you know, I know Marsa said, we

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01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: go back and forth and this all the time. Is

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01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: always say well, I'm running for Congress because it can

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01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: only happen at the federal level. But it's not gonna

1379
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: happen at the federal level. It's just you against two

1380
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: hundred and something a body of people. But what can

1381
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: happen is it happened because the federal follows what the

1382
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 2: state does. That's why you see it happening on city

1383
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: level and on the state level. And once that happens,

1384
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: it's called presidents, and it makes it easier for the

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01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: federal level, but you still can do a lot in

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01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: your hometown by passing smaller reparation bills in your hometown,

1387
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: and you have to do that by being elected in office.

1388
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: I know y'all keep wanting to get past that whole

1389
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: politics piece, but that has everything to do with getting

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01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: any law pass. And then if you want to suit

1391
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 2: a government for anything like a turning Crump has done

1392
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: with the FBI and CIA and nane of y'all ain't

1393
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: putting no name on nothing. First of all, y'all go

1394
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: by hot dogs and potato salad on Twitter, So your

1395
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 2: damn sure ain't gonna put your real name on no

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01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: lawsuit it gets to the FBI. So until you do that,

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Speaker 2: I'm not impressed to whoever it says none y' over here,

1398
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: that's lasting none y over here going by the name,

1399
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: and no disrespect to your baby, but your name, say

1400
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: none of your business. You got your as shot in

1401
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: the what's it ain't so what you're saying has zero

1402
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: The last has zero credibility to me because I go

1403
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: by Tension figure. Oh that's my real government name, and

1404
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: I stand up for white supremacy and my real government name,

1405
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: and I sue white folks and win by the way,

1406
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: never lost in my real government name anti black lawsuits

1407
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: and won by the way and representing myself pro sae.

1408
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: So until you're doing that, I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed.

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01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: Make sure y'all watch Burial, the movie that came out

1410
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 2: this weekend on Amazon with Jamie Fox was playing the

1411
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: Willie Gary, who was one of my other mentors that

1412
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: poured into me in twenty fourteen, ten years ago. So

1413
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: if you don't like my line of questioning, take it

1414
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: up with Willy Gary, because he absolutely told me to

1415
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 2: aggressively keep pushing the line.

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01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: So it sounds good, and people do a lot of talking.

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01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: I get it.

1418
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: I know y'all listen to a lot of YouTube people,

1419
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: and a lot of YouTube people talk to you about

1420
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: a turning crump. And you don't have to agree what

1421
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: everything he's done. You don't have to agree with the

1422
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 2: six hundred million that he got for flat. You don't

1423
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: have to agree with thedred hundred million eight he got

1424
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,959
Speaker 2: for the brother. You don't have to agree the money

1425
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,959
Speaker 2: he got for Tupac's family. You don't have to agree

1426
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 2: with the money he got for George Clinton's family. You

1427
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: don't have to agree with the Google black employees that

1428
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: he got money for. You don't have to agree with

1429
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: the Henriette of lax the money that was taken from

1430
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: her family and how they used her medical stuff. You

1431
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 2: don't have to agree with the hundreds of millis of dollars.

1432
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: You don't have to agree that they just sued Harvard

1433
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: and actually won. These are the lawsuits that y'all don't

1434
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: hear about, because y'all only hear about the police brutality

1435
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: on the clients that won. Historic law historic lawsuits that

1436
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: have never been won in history. I know the YouTubers

1437
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: like to tell you all what happened with Johnny Cochran,

1438
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: but I'd like to go ahead and tell you that

1439
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 2: also who also.

1440
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 3: Was a mentor of Attorney Crump was John V.

1441
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: Johnny Cochran, who also did settlements for civil lawsuits police brutality.

1442
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: Might want to go look it up. The highest settlement

1443
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: he ever had was five million. The high settlement that

1444
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: the Toney Crumb has ever had has been thirty million.

1445
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: So again, it is what it is.

1446
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: I know, it's better to listen to folks on YouTube

1447
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 2: who can sensually keep making money off of you, by

1448
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: the way, asking you for twelve ninety nine, and Tourney

1449
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: Crump hasn't asked you for anything at all.

1450
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 3: And every family comes to him to ask to be represented,

1451
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 3: and they get.

1452
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: He gets nothing at all, and spends millions and millions

1453
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: of his only dollars in these civil lawsuits that actually

1454
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 2: don't really have a high return. To be quite honest

1455
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: with you, the money is in medical malpractice. The money

1456
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: is and so on corporations, you know, kind of like

1457
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: how you got one hundred million just a couple of

1458
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 2: weeks ago. So you guys don't know what you're talking about.

1459
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: But it's easier to just talk and point fingers because

1460
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, you have to distract, you know, in order

1461
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: to make what you selling sound so good. So I

1462
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: know the fans are so afraid of you and what

1463
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: you're talking about on Twitter and they looking and they

1464
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: watching and all of that.

1465
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 4: I get it.

1466
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 2: And let me say this, I don't agree with everything

1467
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: that Toorney Crumb says. He's been very I've been very

1468
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: clear and very vocal. I've been I said it on

1469
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. If y'all not calling that Joe Biden.

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm not going to another rally, and I meant that

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01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: I did not go to another rally, and I won't

1472
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: unless they're calling that Joe Biden. So we have our

1473
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: differences of opinions, but the facts still remain the fact,

1474
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: and a lot of y'all leaders that y'all looking up

1475
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: to ain't never seen no white votes, and damn show

1476
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: ain't one.

1477
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tam.

1478
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,720
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1479
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