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Speaker 1: Good day, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks NBA

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Speaker 1: Trade Deadline Special. It's still Thursday, February sixth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: We are officially less than an hour away from the

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Speaker 1: three pm Eastern trade deadline. I'm Jay Skeats, still here

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Speaker 2: And JD Yeah it happened. Eat mid sentence for what

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Speaker 2: Skeets was saying, we started hearing things. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: ratings and reviews. Here we go. We're going to be

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Speaker 1: here for the next hour or so, hopefully going through

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Speaker 1: some more trades that we get trickling in as we

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Speaker 1: get up to that deadline. Like I said, if you

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Speaker 1: missed this morning's podcast, we talked about the big deals

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Speaker 1: last night, Jimmy Butler to the Warriors, which we also

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Speaker 1: did an emergency podcast for brandon Ingram to the Toronto Raptors.

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Speaker 1: We were a little torn on that one, trying to

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Speaker 1: then Mark Williams to the Lakers, among other of those

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Speaker 1: big deals from yesterday sort of last night, but we

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Speaker 1: got some other ones that are coming in here. For

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Speaker 1: a while, it looked like we were going to be

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Speaker 1: doing an hour on Davion Mitchell. Thankfully we're not. Because

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Speaker 1: the biggest one so far with about fifty minutes to go,

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Speaker 1: was the Atlanta Hawks trading forward DeAndre Hunter to the

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Speaker 1: van down, three second round picks and two swamps. So

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Speaker 1: the Hawks getting off of Hunter here playing the best

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Speaker 1: off the bench, scoring a lot decent percentages, they trade

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Speaker 1: them to the Calves, who maybe fits a role there

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Speaker 1: for Yeah, but what do you think you know my

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Speaker 1: opinions of DeAndre Hunter? Let's hear yours.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: He seemed a little disappointed doing the intro that maybe

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Speaker 2: this wasn't a big name enough for DeAndrea Hunter.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not. I mean, I can't get greed.

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Speaker 2: This is the number one seed in the East saying

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's much better than Karaslivert? I think

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Karrislvert has had a very good season, but

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hunter has had a great season. Yeah. This year,

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hunter is playing the ball of his career, especially

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Speaker 2: against the Calves six and twenty five, shooting fifty six

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Speaker 2: He looks great coming off the bench. It was a

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Speaker 2: blessing in disguise for him that he got injured after

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Speaker 2: the first two games of this season he was starting,

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Speaker 2: He gets injured, comes off the bench when he comes

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Speaker 2: back and plays his best ball of his crew by far. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So why are the Hawks getting rid of him?

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Speaker 2: Money money, money, money, Yeah, it's a long term deal

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Speaker 2: that they want to get off his money. It's piggybacking

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Speaker 2: a Clint Capella to piggyback on that. But I do

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Speaker 2: think this is an upgrade for the Cavs. He's a

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Speaker 1: I don't think he starts.

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Speaker 2: They think that they are a championship team, which is understandable. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like it for the Calves because they're in first place

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Speaker 3: got a tiny bit better. Most of the big names

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Speaker 3: so I think this is probably the best the Cavs

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Speaker 3: we got a chance this year. Yeah, let's increase our

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And from the Hawk side of things, I think

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Speaker 1: He just has disappointed too many times over the years.

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Speaker 1: But over at least forty games or so, he's bawled out.

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Speaker 1: Now he's a better playmaker, Hunter a better score. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's different type of player at that position.

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Speaker 1: But maybe that's really what they need in a potential

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Speaker 2: Right, And the rotation against the Boston Celtics wasn't all

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Speaker 2: that good. George Nianc specifically just looked a little too

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Speaker 2: slow against the Celtics athletic team. DeAndre Hunter is an

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Speaker 2: upgrade on that. Cam Johnson probably wasn't available, or they

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Speaker 2: couldn't pay enough for Cam Johns.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So that's what it seems like right here. But DeAndre

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Speaker 2: Hunter has had a season. He gets a two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand bonus if they do make the finals

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Speaker 2: in two different years of his contract. Johnny Hollinger informing

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Speaker 2: us of that. So at two hundred and fifty k

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Speaker 2: a huge it's in twenty six and twenty seven though, Oh.

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Speaker 1: No, so he screwed. If the Kasmik the finals this year,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't get that.

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Speaker 2: Money, yeh. Fortunate for yes, yeah. Or maybe that's he's

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Speaker 2: got two different bonuses if he hits the seventy game

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Speaker 2: threshold John is writing about. Maybe that's the twenty six

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Speaker 2: say is that he dunked on Victor Weman Yama and

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Speaker 2: that isn't celebrated enough. Nobody noticed.

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Speaker 1: Is that DeAndre Hunter's greatest moment as a Hawks player.

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Speaker 2: Let me sit back and think about that. From what

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Speaker 2: I remember, absolutely, I know he had a big playoff

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Speaker 1: Wow, I do remember that, But I am drawing a

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Speaker 1: blank on any other really truly memorable DeAndre Hunter moments.

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Speaker 1: But I remember the one be dug No, it just

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Speaker 2: I don't people remember that. It was during the holidays.

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Speaker 1: Actually it got a load dunk score.

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Speaker 2: I guess it was ten seconds left side game.

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Speaker 1: TK, you're good at this? Are we forgetting a memorable

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Conference finals? He was there?

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Speaker 1: He was there?

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Speaker 1: He went to the NBA coup.

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Speaker 3: He went to the quarterfinals. Yeah, not bad, not bad

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Speaker 3: for me. The most memorable stretch of DeAndre Hunter is

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Speaker 3: this year testing this guy's the sixth man of the

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Speaker 3: year and then he started balling out. Maybe he could

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Speaker 3: have been six man of the year. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Does this increase his odds? He'll have more eyeballs on him.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if he's actually the six man. But uh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think good stuff from the Cavs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And yeah, like you said, you slipped it in here.

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Speaker 1: Are the Hawks done? Are they trying to get somebody

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: The Capella factor of this, you know, maybe trying to

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Speaker 1: thing here too. With Hunter, They're like, we got Jalen Johnson.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're good there. We feel pretty confident about that.

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Speaker 1: Obviously injured now, but moving forward. So you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: off of Hunter here and the deal that you signed

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Speaker 1: and once you get like, it's not an insane contract, right.

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Speaker 1: It maybe was at the time, but now it's like

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Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four, twenty five million for the next

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Speaker 1: two seasons. Yeah, acceptible, it's acceptable. It is, especially when

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Speaker 1: he plays like this. If he can continue to play

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Speaker 1: which are always big question marks with this guy. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's keep it moving. The Suns are trading use of

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Speaker 1: Nurkic and a twenty twenty six first round pick to

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Speaker 1: six second round pick. So the Sons say goodbye to Nurkin.

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Speaker 1: Interesting well, I assume he found out that he was

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Speaker 3: The use of Nurkic era in Phoenix was not worth it.

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Speaker 3: They should have just kept DeAndre Ayton.

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, that's funny you say that. I saw Mark Deeks,

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Speaker 3: They had Luka Doncic's Slovenian national team coach as their

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Speaker 3: Hey, just take the generational superstar. Easy, easy solution here.

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Speaker 3: But that's all In the past, the Sons have had

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Speaker 2: The guy from Charlotte came and took his job in Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: And here let's talk about the Suns because here's where

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Speaker 3: That's exactly the worry. I guess, if you're looking for

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Speaker 3: a silver lining for the Phoenix Suns, it's that Mitchich

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Speaker 3: That could be Kevin Durant. They're gonna probably address that

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Speaker 1: What do you got here?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: The Clippers have traded Terrence Man and Bones Highland to

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Speaker 1: True, you gotta be careful when you're walking your dog here,

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Speaker 1: right Atlanta, man oh, put that down, Luna, you gotta

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Speaker 2: That's why the Western Conference has gotten super fun over

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Speaker 2: No, you just got traded.

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Speaker 3: he had another second round pick. But man, the Phoenix Suns,

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Speaker 3: They've had both plumb leaves. Yeah, they have Trey Jones' brother, tyas.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they've ever had a holiday.

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Speaker 1: Well, they should take a day off that they wouldn't

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Speaker 2: I was just checking on John and Brent Barry, see

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Speaker 3: Both Morris brothers.

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Speaker 2: There we go, we go?

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Speaker 3: I know he does. I think he does have a

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Speaker 1: round pick and cash. I don't think PJ. Tucker is

434
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Speaker 1: going to play for the Toronto Raptors, but it is

435
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Speaker 1: pretty amazing that this is the third time Tucker's been

436
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Speaker 1: on the Raps, like going back so as far as

437
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Speaker 1: two thousand and five or six, and then again in

438
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and now again in twenty twenty five. Tucker

439
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 1: has made his way there, at least in transactional fashion

440
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: to the rapt Wild. It is wild, but Davian Mitchell

441
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: is the piece here going going to the Heat. I'd

442
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 1: like to see what spoken get out of them.

443
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 2: That's true. If there's anyone that's Heat culture in this strait,

444
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Davion Mitchell, who gets after it defensively. But the Toronto

445
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 2: Raptors have Jamal shed taking his role as a going

446
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Speaker 2: to be the backup point guard. Student Emmanuel quickly takes

447
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: on a full time job. But it is wild that

448
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 2: at the beginning of this season, I mean it was

449
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 2: the off seasons around those draft around draft Day that

450
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Speaker 2: the trade for Davion Mitchell, Sasha Vazenkov, and a second

451
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Speaker 2: round pick that ended up being Jamal Shed for Jalen McDaniels.

452
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: All that's left for these two teams is Jamal Shed

453
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Speaker 2: everybody else. Jalen's out of the league. Sasha Vazenkov is

454
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: hitting shots for Olympia Coast. He had a forty five

455
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Speaker 2: point game with only two dribbles and one free throw thoms.

456
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Speaker 2: That guy can shoot it. Baby.

457
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: Guy was just like, damn, I'm not built for this league.

458
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm pretty awesome overseas, but holy crap, I'm screwed here. Okay, Yeah,

459
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: that is pretty amazing that the shed of all those.

460
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Speaker 2: Guys, all those guys has ended up still with those

461
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Speaker 2: two teams.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a rookie, so you don't think he

463
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Speaker 3: hasn't been cut yet. Give him time. Yeah, he's got

464
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Speaker 3: the same game as Davion Mitchell, and it's a hard

465
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Speaker 3: archetype to stay and to have staying power in the NBA.

466
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Speaker 3: You got to eventually develop some sort of offensive game,

467
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Speaker 3: otherwise you're gonna get game planned out and you're not

468
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Speaker 3: going to be in a part of rotation. That's what's

469
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Speaker 3: happened for Davion Mitchell in two spots. Now, maybe the

470
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Speaker 3: Heat figure things out with them.

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Speaker 1: And I will say when it comes to the Raptors

472
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Speaker 1: again about thirty minutes till the deadline, though things can

473
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Speaker 1: come in after that. Will they trade Chris Bouchet and

474
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Speaker 1: who wants them? We've talked him up for a while

475
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Speaker 1: here on No Dunks. He's played really well this season

476
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,239
Speaker 1: in a limited opportunity shot it really well, had some

477
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Speaker 1: big games. Obviously, a stretch big gives you some defense,

478
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Speaker 1: though lanky guy Nuggets have been tied to him for

479
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: a long time. I think making that work is difficult

480
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Speaker 1: in terms of the numbers. Is there another team I'm

481
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Speaker 1: forgetting that you could see them wanting in on the

482
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Speaker 1: Cris Bouchet uh trade deadline experience here?

483
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Speaker 3: Warriors maybe like they're allegedly interested in a stretch big. Yeah, yeah,

484
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Speaker 3: I could see he's got Warrior ties if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 2: Right, it makes sense. It seems like he has to

486
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Speaker 2: be dealt because he's not going to be long for

487
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Speaker 2: the Toronto Raptors. I don't see them signing him this offseason.

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Speaker 2: He's a free agent, right, Yeah, that would that would

489
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Speaker 2: make sense. There's a bunch of teams. Now, he is

490
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Speaker 2: a streaky guy, there's no doubt about them. Yes, he

491
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Speaker 2: has great peaks.

492
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Speaker 3: He's on a good hot streak right now.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he absolutely is. So that's one name everybody's watching.

494
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Speaker 1: Who else comes to mind? That? Obviously the Vucevic is

495
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Speaker 1: he being dealt? Are the bull for life? Jesus?

496
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Speaker 3: The pipeline is dry, is what it sounds. Turns out

497
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Speaker 3: the Basketball Reference splits are available to everyone. So you

498
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Speaker 3: can go and see boot shooting under thirty percent for

499
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Speaker 3: a month.

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Speaker 1: So great, you don't think they may be cashed in

501
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Speaker 1: when they should have in twenty twenty four, the calendar

502
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Speaker 1: year of this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that would have end the ideal time. Now,

504
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: but just the circle back, Aaron Hollanday did play.

505
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Speaker 1: For this all right?

506
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Speaker 3: All right? And of course and Dragons, Oh my god.

507
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Speaker 1: Wow, Ash, we've got a short brothers named the brothers

508
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: that played for the Suns. Wow, that is that's insane.

509
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: So there's a there's only more and more brothers being

510
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Speaker 1: added to this league.

511
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Speaker 3: Bryce James, he's gonna get drafted. James Jones is gonna pick.

512
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Speaker 1: Him, so'll probably get him. Uh and then in a

513
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Speaker 1: very minor deal. The Milwaukee Bucks traded recently acquired Patrick

514
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Speaker 1: Baldwin Junior and cash to the Spurs.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

516
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Speaker 1: Pretty straightforward and simple deal here for the Bucks, get

517
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Speaker 1: the Spurs to take ball, opens up a roster spot

518
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Speaker 1: for Milwaukee, gives them a little bit more flexibility here.

519
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: Whether it's used at the deadline. Man, I said to

520
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: you guys off the air, it's like real shot to

521
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: your ego. I feel like when you're traded to another

522
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Speaker 1: team with cash, like do they hand it to you?

523
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Speaker 1: You can take this bag to it with you to

524
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Speaker 1: San Antonio, show up this over. I guess it's under Well. No,

525
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: I was going to say international rules, you gotta travel

526
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: with under ten thousand, don't you some domestic You're fine.

527
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Speaker 1: But anyway, PBJ go into San Antonio. I'm sure you

528
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Speaker 1: have a lot of takeaway.

529
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Speaker 2: Oh. No, I was just checking if Wade Baldwin the

530
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Speaker 2: fourth was his brother.

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Speaker 3: That's what I The sons are interesting.

532
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Wade Baldwin went to high school in Touch

533
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Speaker 2: in New Jersey. That's where our man John Schuman is from. Remember,

534
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: remember that's where he lives. Every time every time Schumann

535
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 2: comes on NBA DOC or NBA TV. You see the

536
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: little graphic it says mittuccin New Jersey. Wow, yeah, cool story.

537
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Speaker 2: We remember. I thought Wade Balden was going to be

538
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 2: a player. I remember we called that summer league game.

539
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: Wade Balden was playing right in front of us. He was,

540
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: and we were a few Freade Baldwin the fourth, Yeah,

541
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: the fourth, I remember that.

542
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: Yes, he said bad tune for Wade. Didn't like Wade's two.

543
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, not a big family. Gary Trent Junior was

544
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: playing in that game. We never talked about.

545
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Speaker 1: Oh damn, I don't know if we did. Baldwin hasn't

546
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: been in the league since twenty nineteen.

547
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got one contract, right, yeah.

548
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: Only played well, yeah, he played for the grizz and

549
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: then Blazers. Like, no, too much to have you ever

550
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Speaker 1: had a fifth.

551
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Speaker 2: You know, Baldwin?

552
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: No, not just specifically Baldwin's.

553
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: We obviously have Steven.

554
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Speaker 1: I mean, like you know, I'm getting we got juniors

555
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: or two's, we've had, we have threes. We had one

556
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Speaker 1: traded earlier. Lindy Water is the third. We're talking four

557
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: here in a cy law Baldwin. Have we had a

558
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: five the V.

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00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

560
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be special.

561
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: Cool.

562
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait, I can't wait. That's where we are

563
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: with this deadline.

564
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, you can tell. You can tell we've ran

565
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: out of like hot trades right now because we're naming

566
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Speaker 3: brothers and where John Schuman is from and which generations

567
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: of players have made it to the NBA. Do you

568
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: think we'll see a John Schuman the fifth.

569
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: I think Schumann will be Oh, he's here. I was

570
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: gonna say Schumann is going to be here. To correct

571
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: my pronunciation, and whether it's Mtouchen or Metucha, I tried

572
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: both a hashtag. Well, actually Schumann speaking in the third

573
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 2: person here on the street too. He says he's not

574
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: from Mittuchen, but he played at Saint Joseph Mittucin, same

575
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: as towns Andrew Biden and Jay Williams. Yeah, yeah, I

576
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: was talking about himself. Well I did say, yeah, he's

577
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: played high Schoo. Sorry he was playing out of out

578
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: of town, out of county, I suppose when he was playing.

579
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe our trade deadline special has turned in.

580
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: We've got talking about Wave Baldwin the fourth. This is

581
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: worse than us talking about the Anthony Meltone.

582
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I've got something to announce. It's touching

583
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: the Shuman made that known, touching New Jersey. Every what

584
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 2: would you say it was announced? Like M E t

585
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: U C H E N.

586
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: That's not easy.

587
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: We've done a show on each of the trades. It's

588
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 2: not like we're skipping no.

589
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: No, but I mean I was. I was going to

590
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: circle back to all of the big, big deals we've

591
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: had over the last couple of days and if there's

592
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: anything that's like jumped into your mind since be it

593
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: the Luca trade obviously, the Jimmy trade, the Ingram trade,

594
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: the Mark Williams trade. You know, is there anything that

595
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: you've read, you've seen, you've thought about, Uh, change your

596
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: opinion on anything when it comes to those deals.

597
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: Oh, you're asking me.

598
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: A podcast?

599
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Anything.

600
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: We've been in the fact NonStop the two hours we

601
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: had off the task went got.

602
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: Us another podcast.

603
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: I know.

604
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: No, I haven't read a single thing.

605
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: I figured it was yours to answer, because you did

606
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: go on the Athletic NBA show for probably forty minutes.

607
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus, I was waiting to get on. This guy

608
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't stop talking.

609
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I figured you talked about it even though

610
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: you haven't read it. Maybe you got other thoughts.

611
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: Well, I've been wondering with the to go way back

612
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: to the mega blockbuster that set everything off. Has there

613
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: been anyone out there because I've yet to really read

614
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: it or hear it or see it, like making the

615
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: case for Nico Harrison and why they made an amazing

616
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: move of moving Luca Tonthony Davis, Like I just keep

617
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: you just keep hearing the same thing over and over

618
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: and over again, and I just want to know, is

619
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: there anyone be it in the media, a blogger like that,

620
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: someone's like dug in their heels and like swerved is

621
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Speaker 1: what I'm getting at here. I'm like you fools.

622
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: I did see one single tweet, okay, breaking down the

623
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: Mavericks depth chart, and I gotta say it, look nice, Okay,

624
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: look nice. If you didn't know Luka Doncic was there previously,

625
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: you would be thinking this is a good team. You

626
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: like damn Yeah, all right, Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irving, they're

627
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: both playing really well this season. We all had Kyrie

628
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: as an All Star, Anthony Davis is an All Star,

629
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson is there hasn't had a great season, but

630
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: we know he's a good player. PJ. Washington is good.

631
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: They've got a deep team. If you're looking at it

632
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: without knowing how it came to be, you might be

633
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: a little more excited.

634
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, right, I've got some more breaking news

635
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: here and it is not worth interrupting this great conversation.

636
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: Trust me, trust me. But before we went live on

637
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: the air, tes Millie are like, where's Cody Zeller? Has

638
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: anybody seen Cody Zeller? Because we were like, isn't he

639
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: on the Hawks? You're lasting ash, Hey, you're down at

640
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: the arena a lot. You're seeing Cody Zeller walking around. Yeah,

641
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: And he said no, Well he's been traded from the

642
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks and Houston's twenty twenty eight second round pick

643
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: to the Rockets. So the pick is coming back.

644
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: They're getting Cody Zeller and their pick back.

645
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

646
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: Schaump's has written this tweet correctly. I'm sure he's a

647
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: little loopy as well a little tired. It says, quote

648
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks are trading Cody Zeller in Houston's twenty

649
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: twenty eight second round pick to the Rockets. That could

650
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: be a typo, but also good luck keeping track of

651
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: these second round picks and all these picks.

652
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you just need them for today, right like

653
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: on trade deadline day, if you need to get underneath

654
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: the tax, which the Atlanta Hawks are trying to do here. Yeah,

655
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: in the Cody Zeller move, you throw in a second

656
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: round pick and you're under the tax. It looks get

657
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: to your honor.

658
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cody Zeller surprisingly had two more guaranteed years on

659
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: his contract, has two more guaranteed years on his contract.

660
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: Just kind of shocking.

661
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: What happened there?

662
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: What did happen there? Did that was signed by the Pelicans?

663
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: I think, uh yeah, I mean that's where he came from.

664
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: Ye.

665
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Inexpensive center. Because it's it's a cheap it's a cheap deal.

666
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: But anyway, the Atlanta Hawks are, they're moving on. They are,

667
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: they're getting rid of Cody Zeller's long term deal.

668
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: Keep going, Capella, You're next. This is the this is

669
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: the right move what they're doing here, Yeah, I mean

670
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: for their future. I mean, they're they're not trading obviously,

671
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: there are pieces that you believe in, like Trey Young still,

672
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels of course, a new edition been great. Jalen Johnson,

673
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: as we talked about their new hopeful second star a

674
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Coongoo I think had a great game last Nay, like yeah,

675
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: in that role, but everybody else available.

676
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, call us now. They they took on some money

677
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: and Terrence Man, who I'm sure they appreciate, they like

678
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: him as a player. He's got three more years at

679
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: fifteen million beyond this year. So because he did sign

680
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: a pretty what looked like a really good deal with

681
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Clippers, so next season under contract. Me

682
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: me reading into the leaves here, it's Trey Young, it's

683
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: on kong Wu, it's Reesa che, It's Dyce and Daniels,

684
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson still, Kobe Buffkin no longer, Cody Zellert Vite

685
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: Crachi and George Nyang who has guaranteed deal next year.

686
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: And Terrence Man. That's it. So it's changed, the game

687
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: is Changedert.

688
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, I assume they will.

689
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, after all this stuff. Yeah, do you know Cody

690
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: Zeller's basketball reference nickname? It's a I would I would

691
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: say it's an ironic nickname.

692
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: Hops Nice's good.

693
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: Well, okay, you're getting their full head of hair.

694
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 3: Like cheat code che cheat Cody.

695
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: No, it's the big handsome looks his hands handsome. Yeah,

696
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: it could be about he does have some hands, yeah,

697
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: but I think it's more about his looks.

698
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: That guy's a he's a future son. Watch him pick

699
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: him up. He's got brothers.

700
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, who's man. He's bounced around here. I

701
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: guess he played for the Hornets for a very long

702
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: time and then was Blazers, or he broke his nose,

703
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: and then he was Heat and he's Pelicans and then

704
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: he was Hawks. Do he never played for the Hawks,

705
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: That's why we never saw him, and then obviously now

706
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: getting traded to the Rockets. If we'll ever play a

707
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: second there too, probably not.

708
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we want to circle all the way back

709
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: to what Trey was talking about with the Luka Danci

710
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: if we've seen anything different? Oh no, we've got somebody

711
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: who's got something to say. I love. Yeah.

712
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 4: I feel like a sad reporter over here. But yeah,

713
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 4: Dennis Shrewder is going to Detroit. Okay, that's just part

714
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: of the Jimmy Butler deal.

715
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: So he's not going to the Jezz.

716
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 4: Nope, says he's being rerouted to Detroit, part of the

717
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler.

718
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay so the Detroit

719
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: Pistons would be his tenth team if he ever suits up,

720
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: because he don't count the Jazz.

721
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no.

722
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: That would be his tenth.

723
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: Who's who did you talk in this deal?

724
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: Then, Jimmy, they got some second round picks? Okay, they

725
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: didn't get Guyle Anderson, did they? No, he's on the

726
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: heat from not a raptor.

727
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: No.

728
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, are they in this trade?

729
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 3: They really?

730
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They may not be now, well,

731
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Shooter was going to the Jets. Interesting, and then Lindy

732
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: Water is the third and Josh Richardson was going to

733
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 1: the Pistons. This is how we got it, first told

734
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: to us, and then all the stuff going to Miami

735
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: obviously Wiggins and uh, Kyle Anderson and uh maybe one

736
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: more I'm forgetting. Yeah, that was a part of the

737
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: whole Jimmy thing. But maybe the Jazz are not even included.

738
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: Okay, Dennis Shrewder could be of use for the detro

739
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: with Jade and Ivy's injury. They don't just don't have

740
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 3: a lot of ball handlers. Shuder was good for the Nets,

741
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 3: he was bad for the Warriors. Less pressure I would

742
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: have to imagine in Detroit, and they'll take any sort

743
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: of second ball handler contribution. So I think decent for

744
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 3: them to get involved here and actually get a player

745
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: who they might be able to use for the rest

746
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: of the season.

747
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: That's a great point. Dennis Shruder has had a really,

748
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: really good season before he got to Golden State. It

749
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: was fantastic for the Brooklyn Nets this year. He was

750
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: dropping eighteen and forty five percent from the floor, thirty

751
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: nine percent from three And I'm slightly rounding up because

752
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: of his trade deadline day, and you got to be

753
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: optimistic when you make a trade. But those are great numbers.

754
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: And so yes, for a second, now.

755
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: Off a cliff. When he went to Golden State, he

756
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: shout thirty seven percent from the field. Not good, not

757
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: even three. Yeah, that'd be fine. But from the field,

758
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: I thought.

759
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: I thought immediately he'd go to the bench because the

760
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: Warriors weren't in pain. When Steph would go to the bench,

761
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: they needed somebody to run that second you, So I

762
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: thought he fit perfectly there.

763
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: Oh you're putting this on Steve Curry.

764
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 2: I really am. Well, I just realized that I think

765
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: better Steve me sitting here talking about Wade Baldwin the

766
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: fourth and how I saw a future for him. The

767
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: same guy calling across the world, across the continent, saying,

768
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr, what are you doing?

769
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: What do you do? No?

770
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: He is uh, He's just a talented guy, that is

771
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: for sure.

772
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

773
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: Any other breaking news. I'm just doing a little scroll

774
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: job here, not seeing anything this.

775
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: Considered breaking news. Casey Johnson reporting out of Chicago that

776
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: the Bulls have had a lot of talks surrounding Nicola Vusovich.

777
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: There will be plenty of groundwork for an off season move.

778
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so.

779
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: You're gonna have herey, he looks like he's gonna stay right.

780
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: Let's talk through this Bulls line up. Who we got?

781
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: We got Giddy.

782
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: Giddy Herder, Yeah, Boozellis Collins.

783
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: Vooch, Trey Jones off the bench, Trey Jones.

784
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: They didn't do it.

785
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah they're you're right. They signed Lonzo ball to Yeah.

786
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: All right, that's it. You're gonna like, hey, look you're

787
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: getting Cooper flag Baby.

788
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: He fits in with that starting lineup. Look the Ballsy

789
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 3: still make a run at the tenth scene. I assume

790
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: they are going to be in the playing tournament this

791
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: season in next now not ideal, not my favorite.

792
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: Um yeah, let me give you Fred Katz's thoughts on

793
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: the DeAndre Hunter move. He loves its, cats loves it

794
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: for Cleveland. I'm into it. Cleveland they've been on the

795
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: prowl for someone to slot in to their elite bigs

796
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: and their elite guards, their pairs. Basically at those positions,

797
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: the Cavs have rotated Dean Wade, Isaaca Coro, Karrislerbert into

798
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: and out out of that spot. Now we'll see if

799
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: Hunter can occupy it. But this gets to what we

800
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: were talking about. You know, does he starts come off

801
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: the bench, No question, He's in the midst of his

802
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: best season ever. And that's not just because he's averaging

803
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: a career hind points and efficiency. He's been a stronger

804
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: driver than ever, He's playing more physically, and if the

805
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: season ended today, he would be one of the few

806
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: guys mentioned for six Man of the Year. This also

807
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: seems to be a bet on Lavert's career best shooting

808
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: splits to come back to earth. Cleveland got a little

809
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: better today. Again, that's Fred Katz at the Athletic sort

810
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: of echoing what you were saying. And yeah, the Karislivert

811
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: part is fair. Like he's shooting forty percent from three.

812
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: I think unter shooting well. Carslvert's been on fire.

813
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: Is that a really good year?

814
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

815
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if they do start him, especially

816
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: out of the gate if there's a matchup, Yes, start him.

817
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: But he is become such a good driver, that's what

818
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: he does. He is just straight line driver and less

819
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: of a playmaker than Kara Silvert. I don't imagine a

820
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: world where he plays with Donovan and Garland and the

821
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: bigs and he doesn't pass the ball a lot because

822
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: he's just gotten so good at being a six man.

823
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: And so I do see him coming.

824
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: Off a part of that Cody Zeller move. Kelly Echo

825
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: of the Athletic included in exchange. Boston is acquiring the

826
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: rights to Alpha Kaba. That's not a name, Alpha Kaba.

827
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: That's like the stuff that's left over in a can

828
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: of chickpeas.

829
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: Right, A great call.

830
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently apparently the Hawks originally drafted this guy, says Hollinger. Okay, yeah,

831
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 1: it's got to be a typo, because even Hollinger saying

832
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: the Hawks are getting Alpha just made up people.

833
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: At this point, He's just a type A type alpha.

834
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: What is going on? Yeah, I will say, yeah, I'm

835
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: just starting to think that I'm I'm excited for.

836
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: Doing take a sip of ginger people saying that's the

837
00:40:49,520 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: main character in Wicked. What were we gonna say, gravity?

838
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: You know, we need to eat sometime. I am excited

839
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: to see DeAndre Hunter in fourth quarters, whether he starts

840
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: or finishes. The guy has been able to finish games

841
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: for the Atlanta Hawks. He's come through in the fourth quarter.

842
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: I could flash back to his dunk on Victor uman

843
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Yam with ten seconds left in the game, where he

844
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: smashed it on Victor and then he stared at him.

845
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 2: Forget about that. He's just a really good fourth quarter

846
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: player this season. Let's go back to the Dallas Los

847
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: Angeles Lakers talk. Okay, because it is interesting. As a

848
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks fan, of course, your heart was taken out

849
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: of your body, so when Luca was traded.

850
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: But now even Spencer Dinwiddie agreed with that. He like,

851
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: I feel bad from aus hands. He like said, like

852
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrazy, but like you basically had Dirk two point

853
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: zero right, and then he's just taken from you.

854
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 2: And then and then he's on the team saying that, yeah.

855
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: But and then today when they traded or was yesterday

856
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: when they traded Quentin Quinton Grimes for Caleb Martin, and

857
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: today you get the report that you know, Caleb Martin

858
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: was going to come back and play, but after the

859
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: physicals he's going to be out for a while. That

860
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: is just a double stab in the bag. I mean

861
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: that must hurt. He's got a hip strain, no hip sprain.

862
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: I'm reading Mark Stein's initial tweet where he called it

863
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: a hip strain, but then he corrected himself to a

864
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: hip sprain. Anyway, he's not gonna be playing somebody they

865
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: traded a good player for in Quinton Grinds. That guy

866
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: was producing for them. This is gonna be.

867
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: An okay, hold on, it's funny how you sent that up.

868
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, the Mavericks traded Luka Doncics to the

869
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: Lakers of all teams, but not a lot, not a lot.

870
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Anthony Davis obviously a good player, but yeah,

871
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: he's a much smaller packags than you would have thought.

872
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: So so MAVs fans are like, oh my god, you're

873
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: killing us, Nako, what are you doing.

874
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm not.

875
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm You've almost lost me as a fan. And then

876
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: you're saying, they trade for Killer Martin and they find out,

877
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy's injured and that's it.

878
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: Well, I would put them over.

879
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: The US what I said.

880
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: But when Trey was saying, you know, like remove your head,

881
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: like forget about the trade happened, and you just look

882
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: at the roster and you see, okay, well Anthiy Davis

883
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: ten time All Star, he's still young enough, Kyrie. And

884
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 2: then you see Caleb Martin. We got this guy, he's hurt.

885
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? I mean, they got to

886
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: go for it now or else. Next year they're going

887
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: to be a year older.

888
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: You're thinking about with the Luca going to the Lakers

889
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 1: and the Mavericks getting a d all you think about

890
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: is like Nico Harrison is the guy at the blackjack

891
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: table that has like nineteen and he's like hit me.

892
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, what are you doing? Don't do that. He's like,

893
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: hit me. I'm a gambler, baby. There might be an ace,

894
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: there might be a two under there. I might getting

895
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: black jack. Everyone's going, what no, don't do that. He's like,

896
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: hold on and he's just like I'm a gambler.

897
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: He's a card down.

898
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: Here's the m.

899
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: Austin powers right now. He clearly likes to live.

900
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Is okay. There's a one percent chance he looks like

901
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: the genius the ace turns up, Brother two turns up

902
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: or whatever and he hits it. But it's more likely,

903
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: as everybody has said, that's probably dumb man.

904
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: I get it.

905
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: You want to serve here, you want to go against

906
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: the grain. You really wanted a d and you wanted

907
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: to get ahead of this Lucas thing, even though he's

908
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: never said he wanted to leave. I think we're all

909
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: going to be right. But to me, he's that guy,

910
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: go and hit me. I think, sorry, you're at twenty

911
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: one already. I'll give you another one.

912
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: I think I think he knows this is the last

913
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: card in the deck that's coming. He's counted every single card. Wow,

914
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: he knows there's only all right, right man, there's only

915
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: a two left in those eight card eight decks that

916
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: they've served, are served, that they've dealt at the table.

917
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: There's a two left for you. He's light years ahead.

918
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: That's what he is basically trying to sell us on.

919
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he watched the team loose to the Boston

920
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: Celtics last year in the playoffs. Boston Celtics only upped

921
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: their three point attempts this year, so now you need

922
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: to be able to play defense as fast as possible

923
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: to get it. So he is okay, I mean I'm

924
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 2: not trying to find no.

925
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's been said a lot like this idea,

926
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: like wow, he saw something in the finals and he

927
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta get off of Luca. It's just

928
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: it's one thing when you say that if it's the

929
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. It's another when you're saying

930
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: it for the finals and you're saying it about a

931
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: guy who's carried your team one of the best players

932
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. You know, it's just mind boggling that part.

933
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: But maybe he'll be proven to be right. Maybe a

934
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: two pops up or.

935
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: That's right, we do know who's going back to Utah.

936
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: Oh okay for Dennis Shrewd and the Jimmy Butler.

937
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: Deal, kJ Martin, Josh Richardson and a twenty twenty eight

938
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: second round pick from Detroit to Utah.

939
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: Okay. So all the original machinations of that trade were

940
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: actually wrong. They're rerouted different spots. I see. Are you

941
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 1: saying this is a completely separate trade.

942
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure.

943
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, because it's either the first

944
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: iteration of that trade was wrong because it had true

945
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: or going to the Jazz Josh Hurchison going to the

946
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: Pistons and then it's been tweaked to go to the

947
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: right spot, or this is another trade.

948
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: It could be another trade. Jake Fisher reporting that it's

949
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: gonna be kJ Martin Jushwer send twenty eight second round

950
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: pick four. Okay, yeah, so could be a separate trade.

951
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: So wow, all right, that was going on.

952
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 3: Going on with oh we got a new one, thank yous.

953
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: At the last second, the Memphis Grizzlies are trading Marcus

954
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 3: smart Oh and a twenty twenty five first round pick

955
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: to the Wizards in a multi team trade that sends

956
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: two second round picks to Memphis. Memphis creates roster flexibility.

957
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 3: WHOA that was it?

958
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: I was waiting for the for the name come.

959
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: No name yet back reported So Marcus, I mean a

960
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 3: salary dump for the Leys putting on their twenty twenty

961
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 3: five pick, which what they're second in the Western Conference,

962
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: right now, so it's twenty four. I don't know, off

963
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 3: the top, yeah makes sense. Twenty six probably, yeah, off

964
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: the top of my back into the first round. Yeah,

965
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: back into the first round. They're usually a really good

966
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: drafting team, but they've also got a ton of players

967
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 3: on their roster right now. Vince Williams just came back

968
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: for the Grizzlies as well GG Jackson in the line

969
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: up two. So Smart's been hurt for a while and

970
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: didn't play a ton last season either. I think probably he's.

971
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: Played under forty games. Yeah, two seasons.

972
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: Happy to wash their hands of them, say the experiment

973
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: didn't quite work out for us, right, but still.

974
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: Cast him a pick to get off of it, and

975
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: got good work by the Wizards who have put themselves

976
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: in this position, like, yeah, we'll take anybody as long

977
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: as you got draft capital coming our away, no problem.

978
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Grizzlies are playing so many guys that they're

979
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: fine letting go of a good contract, a good rookie

980
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: that they would draft in a late first round pick,

981
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: because they just are playing so many guys and they're

982
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: comfortable letting go Marcus Smart for the exact same reason

983
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: a guy guaranteed twenty one million dollars when they're already

984
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: playing obviously Job Baine and Jaron Jackson Junior. But you

985
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: mentioned guys deep on the in the rotation, like Fince Williams,

986
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: a Rabia, Gg Jackson coming back with some beautiful blocks.

987
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: They got, so rotation guys, so it made sense. Marcus

988
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: Mart just wasn't unfortunately the same player physically either.

989
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Marcus Smart makes about twenty million this year,

990
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: and then you said a task twenty one and a

991
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: half for the next season that is guaranteed money as well.

992
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: That's not any sort of option on that. Yeah, Grizzly

993
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: just worked, you know, cleaning up the books books.

994
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: I have so many injured guys, the Washington Wizards, so

995
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: many injured old guys, Marcus Smart, Malcolm, Brogden, Middleton, I

996
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: guess Middleton. Yeah, guys who are banged up. But his

997
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: bodies aren't the same as they once were. There should

998
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: be something done on that. Yeah, the guys.

999
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: Marcus, Malcolm and Middleton. That makes it think turn a

1000
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: w upside down. You got a bunch of ms.

1001
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're right, you're right. The illuminati. I don't

1002
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: disagree with you there. I think this is maybe true

1003
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: from you already know in the stream team you're going

1004
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 3: to be taking damaged goods if you trade with the Celtics.

1005
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: Think about the guys they traded Robert Williams off the

1006
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: court for the most most of the time he's been

1007
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: playing recently. Malcolm Brogden, same thing, Marcus Smart, same thing.

1008
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 3: Watch out.

1009
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: Did dirty to Isaiah Thomas?

1010
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: Yes, who was injured when they traded? Yep, I think

1011
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: we've got something from our refrigerator reporter, Hey, what's in there?

1012
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: You got the Ginger Railes left.

1013
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: The Clippers are trading Kevin Porter Junior to the Milwaukee

1014
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: Books for marj On.

1015
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: Champ.

1016
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, okay, that's what I got. Wow, we got there?

1017
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Also trade for that Kevin Porter Junior to the Bucks

1018
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: for marsham Bowchamp. And was that it?

1019
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: That's all? It says Smart?

1020
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

1021
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: And the Kings are acquiring Jake Larravia from the right.

1022
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: They really are leaning into we got too many guys.

1023
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do have too many guys.

1024
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 3: That's a good get for Kings, like La Rabia. Basically,

1025
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 3: the Grizzlies declined his often this year, so they didn't

1026
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: have the standard like rookie contract sort of stuff to

1027
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: be able to extend him. Yeah, he outplayed what they

1028
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 3: thought he was going to this year. I think he

1029
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: had had a really solid season. He's a good rebounder

1030
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: for a wing, I think, And I'll just give a

1031
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: little depth to a Kings team. So I think that's

1032
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: kind of nice. And I'm not a big fan of

1033
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: Kevin Porter Junior, but I think he can help Milwaukee

1034
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: a lot more than Marjon Bouchamp does. Bouchamp was at

1035
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 3: the end of the bench. Maybe Porter skates are gonna

1036
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 3: love this. He might be able to win your quarter.

1037
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 2: He might. Yeah.

1038
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 3: The dude can get hot. Yeah, I'll say that he

1039
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: can handle the ball. He can get hot. He's a

1040
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: terrible decision maker, he shoots too much. He's a black hole.

1041
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,959
Speaker 3: But sometimes he's hitting.

1042
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hollinger wrote that there were whispers out there this

1043
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: week that the Clippers wanted out of the Kevin Porter

1044
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: Junior business. And Bucks save a little money here against

1045
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 1: the tax. They get another shot creator. Like you said,

1046
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: he can get hot. He has a player option KPJ

1047
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: does on his minimum deal for next season. But Bochamp

1048
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: going to the Clips, So Clips getting active here at

1049
00:50:59,680 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: the end.

1050
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure they're comfortable getting rid of Kevin

1051
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: Porter Junior after getting bogged down Bogdanovich as well. He

1052
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: is their guy off the bench. I'm sure he's going

1053
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: to be their guy. It's an interesting team with this

1054
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Clivers them. Can we talk ourselves into a

1055
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: championship contender with a bunch of guys you know, Kawhi

1056
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: leading the way along with bog Down, Bogdanovic's guys who

1057
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: just haven't been amazing physically, but you look at that

1058
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: talent and there is a lot of it. So yeah,

1059
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a really, really good basketball team

1060
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: as far as their careers and what they've accomplished. But

1061
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: will they be able to play? Is that question.

1062
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: We've hit the three pm official trade deadline. Those things

1063
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: in yours past have come in after three pm. It

1064
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: has to be filed with the league offices, call it

1065
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: in by three pm. And then sometimes again we get

1066
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: the news of a trader too. I can't remember, for

1067
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: the life of me, anything of note coming, you know,

1068
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: after the deadline, like a big name, a big deal,

1069
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: a shocking one. It's usually of these of this variety,

1070
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: like a bow champ for KPJ and picks or whatever. Yeah,

1071
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: something else. Please shut me.

1072
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 4: Up right now, n James Man, I wish it's James

1073
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 4: Wiseman going from the Pacers to the Raptors.

1074
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: Let's go, Jesus, Okay, what's going on?

1075
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: What is that?

1076
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: James wise Man? All right, cool.

1077
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Speaker 3: Number two pick reclamation products.

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00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: What are you going to say?

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00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, the Raptors have been taking on money

1080
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: because it bhoos them to take on money. But in

1081
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: this instance, it's not about money.

1082
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't think they're sending cash with You got to

1083
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: declare it across there you go, it is about yeah, okay, okay,

1084
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 3: Anthony Slater saying here the Warriors, you know, officially done

1085
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 3: making moves from his sources, Jimmy Butler the lone deadline acquisition.

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: Uh, they generated three extra roster spots in doing that.

1087
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: I guess was a four for one deal in the end,

1088
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: So Quinton Post a two way guy. He will be

1089
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: elevated into one of those vacancies, and I guess there'll

1090
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: be a biomarket sort of team you have to fill

1091
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: out the roster. And the Timberwolves are standing pat as well.

1092
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: John Krizhynski is telling the athletic crew here, so they're

1093
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: not doing anything. You know, Jillie's Randall is injured. We

1094
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: thought he would be maybe one of the names moved

1095
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: explored at least. That's it. That's it.

1096
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 3: Nothing for the balls, nothing for I'm seeing from Matt Moore,

1097
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 3: nothing for the Denver nun Nuggets. Yeah. I saw Portland

1098
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: Trailblazers fans were a little curious why they aren't making

1099
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 3: moves because they have some veterans who maybe could have

1100
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: some allure around the league. Rather it be Robert Williams

1101
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: or Jeremy Grant. My guess is that they're probably asking

1102
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 3: for prices that teams didn't want to pay. Yeah, I

1103
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: would imagine they both. Portland probably thinks either of those

1104
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: guys is worth a first round pick. The league probably disagrees,

1105
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: so they stick around.

1106
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like the Nets were probably asking for

1107
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: multiple first round pickers for Cam Johnson, just like set

1108
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: it super high. See if anyone in bites he stays there.

1109
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: A little surprised the Magic didn't do anything here at

1110
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: all in terms of trying to get some shot creation

1111
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: in their backcourt and shot making. Doesn't seem like they

1112
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: have They were tied to a few interesting names. Kobe White,

1113
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: we kept talking up and some other guys out there,

1114
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: but it looks like James Wiseman is the one at

1115
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: the buzzer started with Luca, ended with James Wise.

1116
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 3: Interesting. Interesting, James Wiseman drafted higher than Luca.

1117
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: Or are you gonna say, well, yeah, the James Wiseman

1118
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: coming with cash. I wonder if he sold his NBA ring,

1119
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: is a championship ring? Got that he got a ring?

1120
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: I would hope not.

1121
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: I guess he gets a ring for being on the

1122
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: Warriors at the time. I suppose anyway, Yeah, yeah, just

1123
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: looking for the best insight here on NBA says.

1124
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: With them getting Wiseman that they might be interested in

1125
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: the team option that he has for next season. Right,

1126
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: you get to play with that again option? Yes, right,

1127
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: it's team options. So there's that part. Uh okay, here,

1128
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the spot. Of all these

1129
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: deals we've had over the last week, let's call it.

1130
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: Give me the top five when it comes to like

1131
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: the biggest difference difference makers for this NBA season in

1132
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: terms of obviously winning a championship are going deep into

1133
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: the postseason.

1134
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: I mean how's it not Luka Doncos number one.

1135
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't say you couldn't start with it, Okay, Okay.

1136
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I guess Luca a d trade changes

1137
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: the title picture. Yeah, for because I mean I thought

1138
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: Dallas with Luca, assuming he got healthy in time for

1139
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: the yoffs, I thought they had a chance. You know,

1140
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 3: they've played well against the Thunder, they went to the

1141
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 3: finals last year. They're just a well, they were a

1142
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: well made team around him, the Anthony Davis factor. Who

1143
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: knows what they're going to look like. I think they

1144
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 3: probably took a little bit step back, but it could

1145
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 3: work out the way Nico Harrison envisions it. That's a

1146
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: huge one.

1147
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, now I'm intrigued when we get into these

1148
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: other ones. Is it immediate? Is it Jimmy Butler going

1149
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: to the Warriors or is there one that you are

1150
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: putting ahead of that? And maybe it's just maybe it's

1151
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: just like like even if you're convinced Hunter is a

1152
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: move the needle.

1153
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 3: That's one of those two. I think the.

1154
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1155
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 3: I mean, the Warriors had a lot further to go

1156
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: to get into the title picture than the Calves did.

1157
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: The Calves are already there. I think that. So I

1158
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: think the Calves remain in the title picture, whereas the

1159
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: Warriors are now on the outskirts of the conference finals picture.

1160
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, of all the championship contenders, I think

1161
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: you would put a small group of the Calves, Boston

1162
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: and Okay, see in there. The guy that's going to

1163
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 2: make the biggest impact that was traded at the deadline,

1164
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: it's DeAndre Hunter of those teams. Yeah, because of course there's.

1165
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: There's the other ones didn't do much either.

1166
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 2: They did not, right, No, we didn't see much from

1167
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies or the Rockets. It all depends on who

1168
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: you label as an NBA championship contender. But I think

1169
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: the West is so much fun to look at because

1170
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: it is that year where Okay, so he hasn't been

1171
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: there to the NBA Finals quite yet. So if you're

1172
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers, you're excited for what you cut.

1173
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: Obviously obviously, well the Lakers huge moves for this season,

1174
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: and beyond obviously the Warriors, it felt like they maybe

1175
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: even panicked, right, it was like, holy crap, like we

1176
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: really dragged our feet on making a significant move and

1177
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: significant upgrade being market and Paul George other names. Obviously

1178
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: we're always linked to them. We didn't do it. Then

1179
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: the Luca thing happens, and it's like, all right, can

1180
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: we get Kevin Durant? Can we get him back here?

1181
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: We can't, Okay, well, let's go get Jimmy Butler.

1182
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: Right.

1183
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: They wanted to stay in contention at least they got

1184
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: to get up there and they got to climb the rankings.

1185
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: But that's why they did that and went and got

1186
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler. The Clippers, you know, around the fringes a

1187
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: little bit here, but trying to improve their team. I

1188
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: guess the Grizzlies doing sort of the opposite of adding talent,

1189
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: and they're like more like, okay, let's get our books

1190
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: right as we move forward. And then the Rockets they

1191
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: felt pretty comfortable with their squad in not doing much

1192
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: of anything, and that's okay, That's what the thunder did

1193
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: last year, got the reps, saw what pieces they needed,

1194
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: and then acted accordingly. And I think that's exactly what

1195
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 1: the Rockets should and will do here once we see

1196
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: what they look like in the postseason. But yeah, then

1197
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: you got the Kings, and I mean and go on

1198
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: and on, like a lot of these teams sort of

1199
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: near that second half of the Western Conference trying to

1200
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: improve their squads to get in there. If you do

1201
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: believe it's open and you don't believe the thunder will

1202
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: just steamroll everyone.

1203
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: They just got check backed, which trade deadline acquisition.

1204
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: It's a great point. Yeah, that was their acquisition. Yeah, absolutely.

1205
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: And Daniel Tice he got a depth now at the

1206
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 3: center position.

1207
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: So many championships that guy won with Jeremy Yeah, he did,

1208
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: he did. Twenty twenty three was important. He did.

1209
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: He was great.

1210
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: It was great. So was ops.

1211
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: Ops hitting threes in the corner. It's always remember that's

1212
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: crazy Miles Turner. Still Yes, Myles Turner has tweeted, I

1213
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: believe a crying emoji or a single tier emoji with

1214
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: a photo and this is an incredible tie in to

1215
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: nobus the survivor logo. So Myles Turner, from what I

1216
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: can tell, is saying I survived another trade deadline there

1217
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: and usually his name is in a lot more trade rumors. Yeah,

1218
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't as much this year.

1219
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: It didn't seem like Indiana was shopping him. More like

1220
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: in particular, Golden State was like, huh, we could go from.

1221
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 1: Ye here, work here, but yeah, Survivor. Nobuf's coming back soon.

1222
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: Season forty eight starts up in mere weeks. We got

1223
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: new logos. We're gonna be launching. Shout it to our guy,

1224
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: graphic Mark. What a synergy man, JD.

1225
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: Come on, it was natural.

1226
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: It was just a natural plug for other podcast thanks

1227
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: to Miles Turner. All right, should we call it there

1228
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: or should we give it another five minutes or so?

1229
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 3: You think we're gonna get one more trick?

1230
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: I honestly don't think so. We will be back tomorrow

1231
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: to do the Drop podcast. We'll do winners and losers

1232
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: of the NBA Trade Week, really not Trade deadline Day. Obviously,

1233
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: pick our favorites, the perplexing ones. We usually do that

1234
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 1: on the Friday. Maybe Worst of the Week TBD, maybe

1235
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: five star reviews TBD. And we'll do rapid Fire. You

1236
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: can lock that in for sure. So that's tomorrow at

1237
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: ten am Eastern. Here from the Classic Factory.

1238
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant's not going to be traded, as I see

1239
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: here in the Athletics Slack Mike Pray to ask, so

1240
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: are we one hundred percent safe to say that Kevin

1241
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: Durant is staying in Phoenix, Zach Harper replied until the summer. Yes,

1242
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: you never know, although I'm not going to give you

1243
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: a behind the scenes as to what's happening here with

1244
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: the headline decision. But there's they're making some plays. They're

1245
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: waiting it out, so maybe we've got a few more

1246
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: minutes now. It doesn't look like he's being dealt.

1247
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: They're just trying to figure out the uh SEO for

1248
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: that headline with Kevin Durant. Okay, he's not staying, but

1249
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: like we we did talk about it, and I think

1250
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: we got derailed maybe with the trade. But like, I'm

1251
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: fascinating to see how he goes about the second half

1252
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: of the season after the All Star breaks. Do you

1253
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: think he should be mad because his name was in

1254
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: I just think Kevin can take these things personally, yeah,

1255
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: and can let it affect him and be a bad mood.

1256
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: It feels like he's obviously butting heads with someone in

1257
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: this this law too, I don't know, be it coaching

1258
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: staff for players. There's something. There's something going on here

1259
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: in terms of the vibes are bad and that's the

1260
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: key with Kevin Durant. Your ViBe's gotta be high when

1261
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: this guy comes in. You gotta be able to survive

1262
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: those those days where I feel like Katie's maybe not

1263
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: in the best mood because he's analys. I look, the

1264
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: guy is one of the greatest players of all time, period,

1265
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: but no one's gonna say Kevin Durant was one of

1266
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: the greatest leaders of all time, right, And this is

1267
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: the situation I think they're in here.

1268
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean they traded their starting center, well

1269
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: one time starting center and use with Nurkic. I guess

1270
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 3: he has been replaced. So the only move they really

1271
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 3: made was bringing in Nick Richards. Yeah, that's not a

1272
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 3: big improvement. It seems like the Son's idea for the

1273
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 3: second half of the season is to just play better.

1274
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 3: Like that's it. That's their their plan for the rest

1275
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: of the season. We have to play better.

1276
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: And look, there were stretches where they played really good basketball,

1277
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: and they started the season on fire. Were bad, then

1278
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: they sort of bounced back, and now they're bad again.

1279
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: You're right, Well, They're big moves are Nick Richard's and

1280
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: Anna Martin. Those are their their additions and it's all

1281
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: because of Bradley Beal's no trade claws.

1282
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: It's is just amazing.

1283
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: He's just chilling the whole time.

1284
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: Is yeah, are more players gonna start demanding no trade class?

1285
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: I think I think there'll be none signed.

1286
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: So the opposite will happen. No teams will allow them, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or the NBA will say, hey, trades are good for

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Speaker 2: the league if you want to make them. Well, right, right,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's not mandated that you can or cannot have

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Speaker 2: them in a contract, and that's not part of the CBA,

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Speaker 2: so I can't say, but the NBA is going to

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Speaker 2: mandate that. But at the same time, trades are good.

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Speaker 1: But if you're another player in this league and you

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Speaker 1: saw what power Beal did have, right, I mean, you'd

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Speaker 1: be wise to have your agent ask for it. At

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Speaker 1: the very least. I know there would be a negotiation,

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Speaker 1: but that's where you do have leverage when they're like

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Speaker 1: the Wizard's like, okay, we gotta keep them, we gotta

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Speaker 1: sign him, Oh my god, gotta give him the max.

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Speaker 1: And then he's like, well, actually, one more thing, I

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Speaker 1: want to no trade clause as well. Okay, fine, fine.

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Speaker 3: I think tass is right is that it will never happen.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen anymore because of this. It's a

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Speaker 3: it's very complicated to get a no trade claw. You

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Speaker 3: have to be with the same team for ten plus years.

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Speaker 3: The only other guy that has one is Lebron. There

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Speaker 3: have been ten guys in NBA history who happened. It's

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Speaker 3: crazy that Bradley Beal is one of those. Period. I

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Speaker 3: think we're gonna start seeing with the way the CBA

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Speaker 3: is teams getting like pretty hesitant to give young players

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Speaker 3: this super max contract. Like, I don't think Bradley Beal

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Speaker 3: in today's environment would get a super Max contract after

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Speaker 3: his tenure with the Wizards because they're like, this is

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Speaker 3: gonna hamstring our team building for a decade, which is

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Speaker 3: the case right now. Look at them. They have eight

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Speaker 3: wins after they traded Bradley Beal a year ago. So

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Speaker 3: even factor in the way Nico Harrison was talking about

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Speaker 3: uh Luka Doncic and how it seemed like they were

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Speaker 3: kind of nervous to give Luca a super max contract,

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Speaker 3: and that guy seems like the most surefire supermax contract

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Speaker 3: in the league. If there has a tint on, it

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Speaker 3: obviously a dumb move. You see the way this Bradley

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Speaker 3: Beal thing is playing out. Teams are going to be

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Speaker 3: more selective. I think giving actual super maxis to only

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Speaker 3: the guys who really deserve it, not our Max guys.

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Speaker 3: Same thing happened with Zach Levine, same thing happened with

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Speaker 3: Brandon Ingram. They signed these huge deals, then nobody wanted them.

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Speaker 3: It's going to make it important for front offices to

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Speaker 3: not give those bad contracts. Otherwise you're shooting yourself in

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Speaker 3: the foot for half a decade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially now under the new CBA, where trades become

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Speaker 2: more difficult, you're doubling down on not being able to trade.

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Speaker 2: If you sign your guy to a max deal. Now

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Speaker 2: it's difficult to make trades happen.

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Speaker 1: But you can always trade everybody, and you can't trade

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Speaker 1: the guys. It's got the no trade class, right. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just think it would be smarter the players to

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Speaker 1: try and keep the power. Obviously they want them, I know.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see Bradley Beal. It's all your fault.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll call it there. Let's call it there. Feel

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Speaker 1: pretty good about it. Kevin Durant still in Phoenix. We'll

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Speaker 1: see how he bounces back. We'll be here tomorrow tennam

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Speaker 1: Eastern with the Drop Podcast. Thanks everybody that joined us

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Speaker 1: today either once or twice earlier this morning. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: everybody for obviously downloading and listening and watching the emergency

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Speaker 1: podcast that we've had a lot of fun doing this

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Speaker 1: past week. We really appreciate it. If you're new here,

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Speaker 1: hit the like button and subscribe podcast listeners, five star

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01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: ratings and reviews. Okay till tomorrow, Clibber Bros.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember if you want to

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Speaker 2: catch up on any of the other trades that happened

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Speaker 2: before the trade deadline, we did another seven shows. Those

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Speaker 2: eight shows you have to listen to if you want.

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Speaker 1: We actually have to do another show because the thunder

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Speaker 1: of waived Daniel Tice.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, well they're not just like that, just like that.

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Speaker 2: They don't want them.

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Speaker 1: They don't want Tice A nice praise today, people,