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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, It's episode four of the th HC Daily Podcast,

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Speaker 1: the Quarantine Cast, as I've called it, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of you get a lot of your emailers are calling

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Speaker 1: it that too, so I'm glad you picked up on that.

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Speaker 1: That quickly fills here again with us. Hello Philip, Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are you ben? I'm doing well. We had a

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Speaker 1: few things before we get going. One emailer wrote in

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Speaker 1: our friend or lilias tour hiding that I had made

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Speaker 1: a mistake. He said that I he was confused, I believe,

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Speaker 1: And he said that I had made a mistake by

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Speaker 1: letting one fill the engineer into my child's nursery, and

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Speaker 1: that could be a trojan horse. But I assure you

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Speaker 1: I have not allowed to fill into the nursery studio.

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Speaker 1: He's in his own home. Is that you're in your bedroom.

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Speaker 1: This is our our spare guest room. Okay, I will

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Speaker 1: get into your child's nursery eventually. UM, I just haven't

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Speaker 1: I know. UM, So just just to check in, Phil

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Speaker 1: everything's still going well. We're in day four of of

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Speaker 1: our quarantine. If anything changed on your end. Uh no, um,

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Speaker 1: still wetting the Uh the kids watch too much TV

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Speaker 1: and UM, me too. My wife actually went into the

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Speaker 1: came in all of six times with different costumes on

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Speaker 1: Captain America. He may come in at any point. He

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Speaker 1: actually came in during my recording with cal He had

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Speaker 1: I can absolutely deal with that. Oh yeah, sure, it's

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Speaker 1: not a bad thing. Well, we had an email from

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Speaker 1: a listener by the name of Donald Donald Rank, and

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to read this to you film maybe

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Speaker 1: he said, hey, thanks for the daily podcast. I work

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Speaker 1: in healthcare. I've spent the last five days helping coordinate

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Speaker 1: my anesthesia department's effort during the pandemic. This includes changing

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Speaker 1: our protective equipment, and reading the latest information so my

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Speaker 1: staff can best care for our patients in themselves, all

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Speaker 1: while dealing with the rest of the patients that need

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Speaker 1: my wife and kids. While this is still much less

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Speaker 1: than my colleagues and emergency departments and I see us

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Speaker 1: are currently facing, it does take a mental toll to

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Speaker 1: keep myself saying while I'm at work. While I'm not

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Speaker 1: at work, I have scheduled some non Corona time. Your

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Speaker 1: daily podcasts have been a part of that. Please keep

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Speaker 1: them coming. I enjoyed the banter and the stories and

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Speaker 1: the lack of politics except LWCF talk. That's my jam.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the sectomes are no big deal.

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Speaker 1: I had one after a second child was born. I

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Speaker 1: Stay safe, don it's a lot, you know a lot.

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Speaker 1: I just want you to know Phil that you're making

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Speaker 1: a difference. Uh yeah, okay, I'll start telling myself that

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Speaker 1: People need you. But anyway, does that help you out

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Speaker 1: to keep fighting a good fight. Well, this will be

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Speaker 1: But before we get to old Cal Callahan, host of

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Speaker 1: Cow's Wee Can Review, it's hard to remember. Um. Before

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Speaker 1: the great hand Turkey Contest of you ready for this, Philip, Yes, please?

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Speaker 1: Do you think we can get a thousand hand turkey drawings.

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Speaker 1: we'll right, We'll send in are thousands of drawings, and

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Speaker 1: it's the Great hand Turkey Contest of we want a

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Speaker 1: thousand hand turkeys drawn by you out there across the

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Speaker 1: and then you decorate that turkey. Draw a background, give

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Speaker 1: as creative as possible. This is a celebration of turkey

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Speaker 1: first Light, which I will personally have screen printed the

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Speaker 1: Have that turkey drawing presented some creative way inside your house. UM.

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Speaker 1: anything in between. Um, that's that's a great way to go. Um,

424
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: there's you know, I'm still just a fan of a

425
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: heavy bullet. And that's what kind of why if folks

426
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: get scared away from three dred wind Meg, which in

427
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: my mind is a very brusatile rifle as well. Um,

428
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: but it does pack probably more of a thump um.

429
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: Certainly ammunition is way more expensive. Yeah, six is a

430
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: lot of rusatility. Good way to go. I've always said

431
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: thirty at six I've killed you know, everything that you

432
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: just mentioned there with the thirty at six A from

433
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: African game on down the line. I mean, if you

434
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: go back to the original und fifty grainspire point bullet, man,

435
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: that things coming out of the barrel, it like plus

436
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: fee per second. You know, when when that cartridge was introduced,

437
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: if that was a you know, a thousand yard a

438
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: thousand yard bull it, you know, Um, it could be

439
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: it was. It was sometimes trained that way. So I

440
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: think I think, like you said, I've used a hundred

441
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: eighty grain bullet out of the thirty at six and

442
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: got really great terminal penetration. So thirty six I'm right

443
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: there with you. I was thinking that when you said it, Um,

444
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: there's no reason not to just because of the versatility.

445
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: But if you want to get cute, man, there's a

446
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: bunch of other things that work. Um, you know, the

447
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: weatherby calibers. I'm a big fan of the six weather

448
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: be um, but the MMO is expensive. It's getting less.

449
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: So weather Be's making sure of that working with Federal um.

450
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: But you know, if you want to just just go

451
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: as a starter kit, go something that's a bargain, something

452
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: that you can use anywhere, that set up is is

453
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: pretty damn perfect. I would say, do you have a

454
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: Weatherby caliber that you think that you've shot that you

455
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: like the best six three hundred or seven mill or

456
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: what man that pm or sorry six and a half rpm.

457
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: It's pretty wild. I get attack driver and it is screaming.

458
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: I just need more time with it, you know, I've got,

459
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: I guess, just just one deer with it so far.

460
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's I'm I'm really looking forward to setting

461
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: myself up for success here this summer and getting a

462
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: lot of shooting in a lot of trigger time in

463
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: on with that rifle. Actually, yeah, remember we call and

464
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: I went to the Vortex Long Range Challenge last year,

465
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: and uh, the one thing it's noted for me one

466
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: it's a mode that's a great event. I would in

467
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: a perfect world take the time to train and get

468
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: proficient for shooting long range and then then have that

469
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: culminated shooting at that event. But the one thing that

470
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: it drove home for me, not that I didn't already

471
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: know it is, is just preparedness, unfamiliar with the rifle

472
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: and the caliber and the bullet, the whole the whole

473
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: package of the optics. Um. You know, we did okay

474
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: for for going in there blind in a lot of ways,

475
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 1: but man, it would feel really good to train your

476
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: ass off and step into a competition like the Vortex

477
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: Challenge and be ringing gongs at thousand plus yards and

478
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: just really be really confident. Oh man, yeah, absolutely, I'd

479
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: love to do that again. Me too. Um. So that's it.

480
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we have cow I don't know if you

481
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: know this, but earlier in the week we launched a

482
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: contest because I'm kind of addicted to contest right now,

483
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: I really really feel excited to give stuff away. We're

484
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: doing a contest for hand drawn turkeys. Like put your

485
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: hand out, draw trace around it, and then decorate that

486
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: turkey anyway, in any which way you please? Do you

487
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: have any do you have any history with drawing drawing

488
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: hand drawn turkeys? Uh? My history would have been a

489
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: would be ancient history at this point. It maybe I

490
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: cannot recall if we ever did that. And he has

491
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: a youngster in school. But well, we're bringing it to

492
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: the adults. The adult onset hand turkey drawers over here.

493
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: Th HC. I'm hoping to get a thousand of them.

494
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: So if you're out there, maybe you draw. Maybe you draw.

495
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: Ryan Callahan is a hand turkey. I'm sure he'd appreciate that.

496
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: I've got the noggin for it, that's right, Um, all right, man.

497
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: The best thing we can do now, as I was

498
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: telling you earlier, just tell a hunting story. And I

499
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: was trying to think of hunting stories and people and

500
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: places and things I enjoyed. Um. The first thing that

501
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: came to one of one of the first things that

502
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: came to my mind was our time in uh Texas

503
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: hunting access to her. And I feel like, um, we

504
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: could start kind of at the end of the story

505
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: and work our way back. But there we sat, we

506
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: made a makeshift ground blind by a little water hole

507
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: and the middle of the hill country. And when was

508
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: that June? Where it was that June when we were

509
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: there late man, the first couple of days of June, right,

510
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: because I showed up a day early for Memorial Day

511
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: weekend Memorial Day. Yeah, yeah, so we'll get to that

512
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: party because that's a good part of the story. But

513
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: it's me, it's you, It's Casey Butler from Hushing, and

514
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: we're we're sitting as hot as hell. We're sitting by

515
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: a water hole in the hill country, Texas, right around Sonora, Texas.

516
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: I on a on a pretty big ranch that has

517
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: lots of access to here, I mean ship done to

518
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: access to here. Sitting by a water hole. You've got

519
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: your trad bow, I've already tagged out um and we're

520
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: trying to kill an access to here. And I don't

521
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: know how long we sat by that water hole and

522
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: half a half a morning. How long did you remember?

523
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: It was not much time. That is the most It's

524
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: the most close quarters action with game that I've ever

525
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: experienced in that short time. Can you like, what's your

526
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: recollection of kind of like how we picked our spot

527
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: in the set, the whole set up, well, so you

528
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: and Casey had been hunting together the evening prior, and

529
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: you know we it was not like a subtle thing

530
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: that these deer would get up and move to water.

531
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: It was super super hot and had been and the

532
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: hottest like memorial they weekend on record for Austin at

533
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: that point. Um, we were like three hours less than that,

534
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: two and a half hours two and a half west

535
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: of Austin there in the in the edges of the

536
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: hill country, like the far reaches to the hill country.

537
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: And UM and so I had been out cruising around, uh,

538
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: you and Casey UM found like listening to the stag's roar,

539
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: kind of found the spot that they were jumping over,

540
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, just a three strand barbed wire fence, landing

541
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: in a two track road and then walking down into um,

542
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: you know, a deep depression that I think would typically

543
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: be more full of water than then there was at

544
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: that point. So you guys hunted that night, and I

545
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: think you had a lot of action. Yeah, an unbelievable,

546
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: unbelievable amount of action, to the point where if we

547
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: got your we got our wind. Right, So imagine we're

548
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: kind of at if this this little pond what would

549
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: have been upon had been a lot of water, that

550
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: this pond was a clock. Um, we were set up

551
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: at the eight o'clock basically the first night, Casey and

552
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: I and the wind kept switching, um to where it

553
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: was in our faces when we sat down, and it

554
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: was kind of switching toward toward where these deer were

555
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: stepping out and if they would get past a little

556
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: zone or they might catch our wind. They were in

557
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: that they were in the bottom of this this pond,

558
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: and we had you know, roughly anywhere from an eight

559
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: yr shot to a twenty yard shot with a bow,

560
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: um with archery tackle. Casey had a rough a rough time.

561
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: We've talked about it on a podcast him and I

562
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: did back when we recorded this. I mean, I think

563
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: I'll have to look it up, but I think it's

564
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: in the first you know, ten podcasts that we recorded.

565
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: Casey had a rough time. He made some miss his

566
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: Luckily no wounding happened. Um missed missed a couple of deer.

567
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: But it was pretty clear from what you just said.

568
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: These deer were coming out of the out of them

569
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: ski out of the thicket, jumping this fence, crossing a

570
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: two track road, and dropping down into this pond. It

571
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: was It was the most simple kind of archery set

572
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: up I can think of. We knew where they wanted

573
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: to go. They had to go to water. It was

574
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: so dang hot, and so the setup was was pretty

575
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: clear from there. So I think that next day we're like, man,

576
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: we gotta recruit cow to get in here, and we'll

577
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: we'll set up on the ground. We'll build either will.

578
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: We didn't have a ground pop up ground blind, so

579
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: we're like, hey, we'll just kind of build a makeshift

580
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: ground blind going from there. Yeah, and you guys had

581
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: done a little building the night before, uh, and you're like, yeah,

582
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty much blind. And then the next

583
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 1: morning we went in there and uh, it was like

584
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: a cartoon. It was like three guys trying to hide

585
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: behind like a coat hangar. Yeah, like one leaf. We

586
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: sat down, like if you sit on this side, I'll

587
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: sit on this side. I was trying to film you guys,

588
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: set it up for for the Hussian channel and film

589
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, we were on at the base of

590
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: this big tree, not hidden at all, and had these

591
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: deer not really wanted to get to water, um we

592
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have seen one within a hundred yards of

593
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: us because access to you are historically spooky critters um less.

594
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: So in the landscape of Texas where they have feeders

595
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: and and and ponds like this, they call them tanks

596
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: down there um less so there because they just have

597
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: those those elements to kind of change them up, but

598
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: they're still spooky critter um. But we had kind of

599
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: placed ourselves in a place they needed to be, not

600
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: that they wanted to be walking by our dumbasses sitting

601
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: under a tree. Yeah, and uh it did so like

602
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: the densest part of our cover was essentially the first

603
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: thing that they could look at when their feet hit

604
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: the ground and their heads came back up. Um, And

605
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: so they'd like right in the densest part of the

606
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: tree that they went left, Uh, there's a gap, and

607
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: then another tree, and then a gap, and then the pond.

608
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: And if they went right, there was a essentially the

609
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: same thing, another gap, but tree and then wide open

610
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: and the first there's like all the roaring and stuff

611
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: and all the god it is this actually gonna happen?

612
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: Is this gonna gonna work out? And then the um

613
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: first stag came through and it comes up to the

614
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: gap in the fence, jumps the fence, lands in the road,

615
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: and it was moving right to left the entire time

616
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: hits the road for whatever reason, moves uh left to

617
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: right and is essentially just like three yards away of

618
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: staring at three guys in folding chairs or whatever we have. Yeah,

619
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: didn't we have it. We had like a folding chair

620
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: or some sort of bucket I don't like, and then

621
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: a bucket, and yeah, it was. It was a It

622
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: was a comedy. It just if you would have filmed

623
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: a comedy about hunters hid trying to hide from deer

624
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: and doing a poor, poor, poor job of it. Like

625
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: I said, we just happened to be I mean. And

626
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: and for clarity, when these deer are jumping this fence,

627
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: they are thirty five thirty yards in front of us

628
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: when their feet at the ground, or maybe last even

629
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: cal I would think less because I think that first

630
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: gap on the left was twelve yards, so they probably

631
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: hiped somewhere around eighteen something like that. Yeah, And so

632
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: they get to a point where if they jumped this

633
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: fence where they were pretty commonly, well, we were going

634
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: to get a shot um if they kept work in

635
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: that direction. And one of the big challenges there were

636
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: so many deer around this particular water hole, this particular

637
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: tank that we had to you couldn't really didn't have

638
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: time to set up. We could have built a blind,

639
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: but every time you turned around, there's another deer within

640
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: a hundred of yards working down wind. Or working up wind,

641
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: or we're trying to make its way over to the water.

642
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: And so I just remember if you would picture like

643
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: the most frantic time of trying to get set up

644
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: then figure out the you know, the best way to

645
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: get a deer close and get a shot off all

646
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: that stuff, That's what this was like. We we just

647
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: didn't have time to reset. There were deer literally everywhere.

648
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: And I would say vocal like once one does their

649
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: little alarm blow, everybody's doing it, and yeah, it's just

650
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: miserable because then it's like, hey, I mean Sam sohol

651
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: And always had that down in Hawaii. That's what it

652
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: sounds like. Hey, just like that, and I probably blew

653
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: that mike out. But and that's what you were just

654
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: kind of in a position. I remember, I'm on the

655
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: left of the tree, Casey's in this. You're kind of

656
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: in the center. Casey's off to your right. And at

657
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: one point this this buck walks right up two I

658
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: don't know, you're like probably five ten ft to your

659
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: right up this trail kind of walking right towards us

660
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: and comes right in close. I filmed it. Um, if

661
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: you would have taken a few more steps, you could

662
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: have got a frontal shot at two or three yards. Um.

663
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: But just to say that we're covered up in deer

664
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: the entire time, Yes, yes, and um, so we're watching

665
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: this stag see. Okay, So just the first egg that

666
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: jumped and went left, you know, it was just like

667
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: one of those things you were just panned like there,

668
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: I should have just been like waving my fingers at

669
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: the deer um and nothing I could do, you know,

670
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: that helpless feeling of like, boy, that was a very

671
00:40:52,280 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: good opportunity. Ryan. Where were you on that one? Ryan? Uh?

672
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: Those don't happen all the time. Ryan, Oh here comes

673
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: another one. Ryan. Just just to clarify, I screwed that up.

674
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: You're right, it's a stag. I don't know, I said, Buck,

675
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: It's it's funny, it's not. It's not a hind. It's

676
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: a stag and a dough. I was just looking up

677
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: kind of like the terminology for what they call cheatle

678
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: deer down there or shittled deer down there, and uh

679
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: Australian and in India and the Indian subcontinent. So just

680
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: that is kind of funny. Yeah, you know, like hunting

681
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: those things out in Hawaii and uh in Texas to

682
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: you kind of always mixing up the nomenclature. But um,

683
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: so the next stag comes up, hops the fans and

684
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: basically does exactly what exactly the way you you draw

685
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: it up right, It like hit the hit the ground,

686
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: steps through the first gap, puts its head behind the

687
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: first tree. No shot, but I get a start drawing

688
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: my bow. It takes two three more steps and stops perfectly.

689
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: Let the arrow go. And it was quite quite something.

690
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: I think in hindsight, the deer had started to jump,

691
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: so it had no feet on the ground at time

692
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: of impact. The arrow hit the stag and essentially just

693
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: pancakeed it like its feet never touched the ground again.

694
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: And it's opposite shoulder smashed the ground before its feet

695
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: started kicking dirt so um and then and then ran

696
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: up to it, and uh, you know, I tried to

697
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: make sure that the deed was done. Yeah. I've never

698
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: remember talking with Casey about this afterwards. You never expect

699
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: for you to, you know, we're shooting traditional tackle um

700
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: at at an animal, no matter what it is, and

701
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: have have that impact knocked that deer off its feet

702
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: in the way that it did. I've never seen it

703
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: that stag was up in the air and flat on

704
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: its back quicker than we could all. I think that

705
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: it's shocked all three of us. Um, oh yeah, absolutely no,

706
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean that thing was. I mean it hit the

707
00:43:53,120 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: ground hard also like it was just pancaked it. It

708
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Wow. Yeah, I mean and we and then

709
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: there was you know, it took this deer. It took

710
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: this stag a long time to die, man, Like he

711
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: just kind of you put another one in him and

712
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: he kind of just fought it for a while and

713
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: eventually expired. And Um, that was something being that close,

714
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: being able to film it, to watch that all happen, Uh,

715
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: it was pretty crazy man. And I I remember specifically

716
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: hearing the thud of your arrow hit that deer and um,

717
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: even hearing it back on the on the video too,

718
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: was was super interesting. So, UM, I don't know, it's

719
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: it's burned in my mind that sound, because it's it's

720
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: a sound I've heard before, but that close, that up,

721
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: that personal, and to have the impact caused the deer

722
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: basically to flip over. Um, you're you're north to you're

723
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: used to hearing that impact and watching the deer run

724
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: off and try to see exactly where your arrow hit.

725
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: If he's bleeding, where he's bleeding, what where he's going,

726
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: what he's doing, Um, if he's going to tip over,

727
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: But we didn't have to in that case he was,

728
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: he was over and in second Yeah, yeah, it was

729
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: pretty wild and it was pretty darn funny. The we

730
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: had some dough tags to fil Phil, so we're like, well,

731
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: that's quick, go get a couple of does. It was

732
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: our last day there and um, so he grabbed her

733
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: rifle and went out and made a couple of really

734
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: fun stocks on some does and got some meat. And

735
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: then the outfitter showed up, and it was pretty funny.

736
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: He's like, who, sorry, who who got this? It's like

737
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: the guy, the guy with the kitty bow, Yeah, the

738
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: very simple bow. Uh who got this? That was pretty funny.

739
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, I remember being back in the lodge

740
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: with with all the there's other clients there that were

741
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: a lot of them hunt with rifles. Um, a couple

742
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: of guys with archery equipment. But they were, ah, let's

743
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: say they were. They were reluctant to admit that you

744
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: had any chance to kill one of these things. To

745
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: kill an access access to here with traditional archery equipment.

746
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: They just didn't They didn't feel like it was it

747
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: was conceivable at that point, and they weren't scared to

748
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: say that in in camp there. No. But I mean, gosh,

749
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: anybody who's been out on a few hunts has got this.

750
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: It knows how quick things can turn around to where

751
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: it's like the first two three days could be like, boy,

752
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: you have got to get pretty darn lucky for these

753
00:46:53,800 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: conditions because it is just tough. Uh, hang on, band,

754
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: somebody's knocking on the door. Okay, yellow, Yeah, hold on,

755
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm finishing up a podcast. Yes, sorry, Garrett Smith just

756
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: walked down. No, say tell him to come over here

757
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: and get in on this business. I will. He Uh

758
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: just rolled over from Hell in Montana. Hey, that's something

759
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: you can actually hang out with. You can hang out

760
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: with people that don't work in meat Eater. Yes, and

761
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: because uh, both Garrett and I naturally practice social distancing. Uh,

762
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: I think, I think outside of the meat Eater office,

763
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: we were both the last people we hung out with

764
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: last week when we went ice fishing. Well, yell at

765
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: him to come to hell up here and get it

766
00:47:52,880 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 1: get the mic. I will. He's uh he'll make his way. Yes, ay, yeah,

767
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean that's that was just generally the end of

768
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: that hunt for us. There's a lot of cool things

769
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: that happened prior to that. Um. But to get back

770
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: to the beginning, I mean, it was, you know, right

771
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: around Memorial Day. But I must have called you a

772
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before the hunt just I was like, man,

773
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: I got this access to your hunt on a great

774
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: ranch out west of here. You want to come down

775
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: at the time. You're working for First Light, I'm working

776
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: for Yettie. Um to make a hunt happened that quickly,

777
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: was was a miracle. Oh yeah, man. And in fortunately

778
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: you can break an access down into a big Yettie

779
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: hopper and and yeah, pretty darn funny we got we're

780
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: pretty uh pretty nasty crew by the time we got

781
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: on yeah, the flights the next morning back. There's a

782
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of tick stories we could tell. Um,

783
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: it's something I didn't know till recently, you said, after

784
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: that trip. But when when I told you the dates,

785
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: I believe I texted you the exact wrong dates, or

786
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: at least a date prior of when to show up.

787
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: So I was at a mutual buddy. I was at

788
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: a buddy's house with my little little guy and my wife.

789
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: We're parbatying up in a Memorial day and I get

790
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: a text from Cal. It says, hey, man, uh, just

791
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: laying at the airport. Let me know when you're gonna

792
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: pick me up. And Uh, My first thought was, he's

793
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: got it wrong. He's not at the airport. He means

794
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there tomorrow. He's not there today, No way.

795
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: So I texted back, You're like, no, dude, I'm here.

796
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: I landed, I'm at the airport. You're gonna come get me.

797
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: And so I look back at my text to you,

798
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: and I realized that I told you the exact wrong

799
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: damn date. So I jumped in my truck. I'm zooming

800
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: over to the airport. I get pulled over by a

801
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: state trooper in Texas. He pulls me you over, and

802
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: by this time, I hadn't had my podcast for very

803
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: long at this point in time, so there wasn't really

804
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: a lot of reason for anybody to know me from it.

805
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: The officer comes to the window. He says, uh, sir,

806
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: you're speeding, takes my license, comes back, gives you my

807
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: license back and says, hey, man, I really love the podcast,

808
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: and starts going over all our mutual friends we have

809
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: in town and people I know that he knows, and

810
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: we're talking and having a nice chat at this point, Cal,

811
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't you imagine that we have an agreement where he's

812
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: not going to give me a ticket if he's he

813
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: listens to my podcast when you agree that, that's that's

814
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: what I wish should be thinking there. Yeah, I mean,

815
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: he don't bring it up right until after you've issued

816
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: the ticket, is my thought. Yeah, I think for sure

817
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: if we're being this friendly, I'm not going to get

818
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: a ticket. I explained, I'm going to pick up Ryan Callahan.

819
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: It was late. I screwed this up. I'm late to

820
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: go get him at the airport, and he goes, oh, man,

821
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: I love Ryan Callahan. You guys are gonna podcast, Like, yeah, absolutely,

822
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm thinking for sure we I'm off of this now.

823
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: And in fact, you and I got pulled over in Wyoming, Sheridan,

824
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: Wyoming on the way to Yeah, and that that cop

825
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: did the kind of the same thing, took our licenses,

826
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: took your license. I'm a big fan of you guys.

827
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: That's great. Wow, I love you cal and then let

828
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: us go on our way with a warning. And that's

829
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: what I think. I you know, I was expecting in Texas,

830
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: but no, he came back a couple of minutes later

831
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: whacked me with a ticket. So that's why best stories

832
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: to shout out to that officer. I wonder if he

833
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 1: still listens, but if he does, here we are during

834
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: a quarantine, recashing that thing that happened some years ago.

835
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: It was very Texas weekend. It was. It was a

836
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: very Texas weekend. A ticket, a briskt uh hunting the

837
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: hill country. It's Max's DearS, Marrow's flown torches, tacos, everything, ticks.

838
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: You got some ticks. I got a lot of ticks, Yeah,

839
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: didn't you? Did you get Did you tell me you

840
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: got limes disease from that trip? Yeah? I got limes

841
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: disease from that trip. Yeah. I didn't know that until recently,

842
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: was like years later. I didn't know that. I know

843
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: you had ticks on me, that I had ticks on me,

844
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: and so did Casey, and we were talking about alpha

845
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: gal syndrome and there was a lot of lone star

846
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: ticks hanging around at that time. But I didn't know

847
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: you've got lime disease from that nod, Yeah, I had.

848
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: It was just it was an odd thing where I

849
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: was like very hyper aware of the dates, which I'm

850
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: typically I'm not schedule, as you know from uh trying

851
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: to make schedules. Um, and uh yeah, just a pretty

852
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: pretty funny deal. I was actually back in the First

853
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: Light office on the following Monday and UH went in

854
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: to use the restroom and I was like that sure

855
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: looks like a bull's eye tick bite. It was No,

856
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: it was a Sunday. Uh, So I wasn't you know,

857
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't about to go in there and and get

858
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: charged anything extra for going in on Sunday. So I

859
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: took a picture of it. Went in on Monday. The

860
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: thing with the bulls eye ticked by it as they

861
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: change over time, m hm, and so it looked like

862
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: a weird kind of rashy thing, not a very prominent

863
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: bull's eye. So I'm glad I took the picture of it.

864
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: And um, you know, nobody likes to issue pills without

865
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: it being necessary, but in this case the pills are

866
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: doxy cycling, which is what what they give kids for acne,

867
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: and um, I was like, hey, listen, bulls eye tick bite.

868
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: This is what the CDC says. Can I just get

869
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: some doxy cycling and like, well, you know, could you

870
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: just go home and monitor it? I'm like, well I could,

871
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: But what the CDC says says to do is not

872
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: monitor it. It says to get on it as fast

873
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: as possible because the longer you wait, bad things happen.

874
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: And then um, a nurse practitioner came in. She says,

875
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, Ryan, we always like to look at these

876
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: things in uh that you know, risk versus reward scenario.

877
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: It's like, right now, you're looking at something that is

878
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: very low risk because you're not gonna get addicted to

879
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: doxy cycling, nor will you have any ill effects other

880
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: than maybe a sunburn, and the reward would be not

881
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: getting lime's disease. That's wait through reward. Man. I know,

882
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people that have have termed

883
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: the chronic lime disease. And god, it's not pretty, not

884
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: pretty at all. Uh, And I didn't you might have

885
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: told me that after the fact, because I know we

886
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: talked a lot about ticks down there, like jiggers. This

887
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: June July August time frame in Texas is just harsh

888
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: man um rattlesnakes. I had a big on this trip.

889
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: I had a big I was sitting up against a

890
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: tree with my butt on the ground and my legs

891
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: out in front of me, listening to access stag roar,

892
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: probably like a hundred yards um right around the corner

893
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: from where I was sitting, and I look over. I

894
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: feel something brush my thigh and I look over and

895
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: there's probably gosh man, a four and a half five

896
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: ft long rattlesnake just crawling over my snake boot, up

897
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: over my hip over and by the time I see him,

898
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: his heads by my toe. And so in my mind

899
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: I looked down, I'm like, oh cool, a snake. And

900
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: then I stopped and think, oh shit, a snake. And

901
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: I let him kind of divorce himself from my my

902
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: the soul of my boot, and I got up and

903
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: ran about three yards. I didn't scream to my uh,

904
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, to to the good, to my better nature,

905
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: but I uh, I was freaked out for the rest

906
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: of the trip. So this is this is to say,

907
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: if you want to hunt assis dere um, generally during

908
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: the roar, when they're when they're going off June is

909
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: a great time to do it, but watched the hell out. Um,

910
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: Texas is a mean place. It's mean during Turkey season,

911
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: and it's mean. It's mean after season is over. When

912
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: he gets into the summer months. Oh yeah, man, that

913
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: the country is just live down there. That weekend, I

914
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: got at so many ticks, so many dozens of ticks. God, man.

915
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: When he got down there, he's like, here's the deal. Typically,

916
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: I take a shower in the morning, take a shower

917
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: when we get back from lunch, and then if there's time,

918
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: but take a shower before I leave for the next hunt.

919
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: And then when you get back in I take a shower.

920
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: And I was like, that seems a little excessive. And

921
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: then you're picking up seven to twelve ticks a day

922
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, just hurry up in the shower there.

923
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. Oh. I just remember Casey Butler

924
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: and his jammie's for most of the hunt's prancing around

925
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,479
Speaker 1: the lodge and his jammie's um, God bless him. Um.

926
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: And you can go watch this hunt basically unfold if

927
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: you go back and find it on Hushing's YouTube page.

928
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: You'll have to search some years ago. I want to

929
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: say it was that this this hunt went down, or

930
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: maybe ye Cal something like that. Um, but you'll find it.

931
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: You search Cal and Benny and Hushing and access to

932
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: your you'll you'll you'll find it. It still exists. I

933
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: promise on the internet. You go back and watch us

934
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: do it. But I I on the I just remember

935
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: going out with you and Casey on the first stock.

936
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: We all walked. We all went out together, Um, Casey

937
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: missed a deer and or no, you missed the first deer.

938
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: I did stalked up yep, but just we We had

939
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: been out for maybe thirty forty five minutes and we

940
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: were on deer and stalked up and got a shot

941
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: with a trad bow. Everywhere there's so much fun. I've

942
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. So I think back on

943
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: this hunt and then that you know that afternoon, Casey

944
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: and I were stalking up a buck and I got

945
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: a shot at like forty yards and nailed him and

946
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: and knocked him down. And it was one of the

947
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: cooler archery kills I've ever had. Um knowing how hard

948
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: it is, um, knowing just how hard it is to

949
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: to pull that off. But as far as targets of opportunity,

950
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: this ranch this part of Texas. This game animal um

951
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: is awesome. And then then you get as you said,

952
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: cal you go home with the YETI hop or full

953
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: of some of the best meat there is. Yeah. And

954
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: we had the saws running in in the in the

955
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: walk in and you got to do some couple of

956
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: fancy cuts before we took off. Yeah, we did a

957
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: little bone in French cut um backstraps and and spend

958
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: some time and a big walk in cooler cutting cutting

959
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of things and filming that for the Hushing boys.

960
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's a it's a great hunt.

961
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: That's a great animal um. Boy. I if I could

962
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: have bone in straps tonight, French cut straps tonight for

963
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: as for some axis here, I would give just about

964
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: anything to do it. And this would be this is

965
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: a great time to get down to Texas and do it. Man.

966
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: This is this post even during Turkey season, but post

967
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 1: Turkey season it's gonna be when things start kicking off.

968
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: So I know you can't probably go now unless you

969
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: live in Texas. But something to think about every year

970
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: down every year around if you're looking for some venison

971
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: uh in the summer months. Oh yeah, highly recommend where's

972
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: old dirt? Do you disappear? Yeah? I think I think

973
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: we scared him away, and we scared him away. All right, well,

974
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: no worries. I'll let you get back to it. Cal.

975
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: What's your giving everybody? Your big big plans for the

976
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 1: quarantine time before we go? Any huge projects in the garage? Yes,

977
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna so many plants. So I would like

978
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: to finish my garage organization. Um. I got some how

979
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: twos I'm gonna be sharing with everybody, UM on getting

980
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: anal very anal retentive on my camping gear. U turns

981
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: out there's a lot of answers out there that you

982
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: keep asking the question to every year or every hunter

983
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: or every trip, and you just you just haven't haven't

984
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: been putting in the work to come up with the answer. Um.

985
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: So I'm working on some things like that that I've

986
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: been thinking on for a long time. And then I'm

987
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: gonna can some bone stock, and I'm gonna can, um

988
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: probably some more chili and some soup, and then I

989
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: am going to um start busting out a bunch of

990
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: jerky too. So I got a bunch bunch stuff, knock

991
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: out some sausage, knockout. Um. You know, I have such

992
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: a surplus full of meat, it'd be great to just

993
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: have some. Um. I'm not a jerky purchaser, but I

994
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: eat it it if it's around, so I should just

995
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: there's there's no excuse not to just be producing it

996
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: on my own. Yeah, I'm looking forward to jerky. As

997
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, I'm looking forward to I

998
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: got these little books, these little laminated booklets for my

999
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: son that are you know, birds of of the Rocky Mountains,

1000
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: trees of the Rocky Mountains, tracks for animals of the

1001
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountains. So him and I are going to spend

1002
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: a lot of time out. He has these visual markers.

1003
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: Now he's only three and a half, um, but he's

1004
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: he's really intelligent and really wants to learn things. So

1005
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start him on learning what trees or what? What?

1006
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: What birds are? What? Um, what tracks are what? And

1007
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: hopefully that sparks something in him. So I look forward

1008
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: to that because I think getting out with him every

1009
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: evening five thirty six o'clock, just take a walk, look

1010
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: for birds, look at trees. I mean it's just so

1011
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: available and so cool, so so cool. Yeah, I'm excited

1012
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: for that. Very cool, very cool. I'm excited for you.

1013
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all another episode in the books of

1014
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: the th HD Daily Quarantine Podcast. Thank you. I keep

1015
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: saying I gotta say quarantine cast because that's the only

1016
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: way anybody will know what I'm talking about, Phil exactly.

1017
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: So the thank you, Ryan Callahan, Thanks to everybody down

1018
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: there in Texas for lessons come down and hunt your

1019
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 1: access to here. Hopefully you're making it through day four

1020
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: of this quarantine for us, and and another show. Hopefully

1021
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: you have listened back to Remy Warren, to Mark Kenyon,

1022
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: to Sam sohold a bunch of good stories there. The

1023
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: next story you're gonna hear is one of my favorites,

1024
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: of absolutely favorites of all time. Cole Kramer, Cody ac

1025
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: Alaska Hunting Guide, and my buddy from Texas, d J. Bell,

1026
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: are gonna come on and we're gonna talk about Cody

1027
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: Aclaska blacktail hunt that went horribly and beautifully wrong, and

1028
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: what that taught us during this quarantine, what it what

1029
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: it did for us, and how it's benefited us in

1030
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: our lives. It was a gnarly trip, but one that

1031
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: we all remember fondly. As it was fun to relive

1032
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: that with those boys. But hopefully these daily podcasts are

1033
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: helping you out. Um, Phil, just checking in with you.

1034
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: You're feeling good over there. We're gonna get you to tomorrow. Yeah.

1035
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: I think once once, once I get through this week,

1036
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I'll get a new burst of of

1037
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: of energy. All right, kind of a kind of a

1038
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: scramble at the beginning of the week. I think I'm

1039
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: catching on. I feel like I'm I'm scattered, I'm everywhere

1040
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: right now. I'm in sitting in a room, staring at

1041
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: a at a with a microphone, staring at a computer

1042
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: video of myself for too long. But hopefully this is

1043
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: is I've heard from a lot of you that said

1044
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: this is entertaining and helping during this time, so I

1045
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: hope that's true for for everybody listening. We're gonna continue

1046
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: working hard on your behalf putting this together. Also, I

1047
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: think what will help me and you feel is seeing

1048
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: a thousand hand drawn turkeys in the next oh yeah,

1049
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: short bit of time here, So get TC at the

1050
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: mediator dot com. Send us your hand turkey drawings. We're

1051
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: looking to get a thousand of them babies before this

1052
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: contest is over, so send them, send them, send them

1053
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: right now, tonight, tomorrow morning, whatever, but we will see

1054
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: you for Day number five. Kodiak, Alaska story tomorrow on

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