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Speaker 1: is up? Straight firefam? It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire

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Speaker 1: for Friday, May twelfth, and oh my freaking goodness, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know where to begin the podcast. The Jet

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Speaker 1: I was very excited about the Jets earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: It's been diminished just a little bit when you look

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Speaker 1: at the first six games. Holy hell. But under no

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Speaker 1: circumstances can we start the podcast with the NFL when

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Speaker 1: we had an absolutely insane night in the NBA. It

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Speaker 1: feels like every night is insane in these playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: liken these playoffs to the NCAA tournament, where it's just

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Speaker 1: upsets galore and madness happening everywhere. We're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: the Celtics of my guy, Jason Tatum delivering in the

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Speaker 1: But I don't think I can start anywhere else but

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Speaker 1: the Desert were the Phoenix Suns the favorites to come

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Speaker 1: out of the West when these playoffs begun, because they

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Speaker 1: got Kevin Durant, they got Chris Paul, they got the

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Speaker 1: book got absolutely obliterated, humiliated at home by the Denver

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Speaker 1: Nuggets in what has to go down as a foundation

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Speaker 1: shaking loss for the Suns. It is unfathomable that in

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Speaker 1: over playing at home, that the Phoenix Suns could go

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Speaker 1: down thirty points at halftime last year against Luka Doncic

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Speaker 1: this year, last night, well tonight technically as we record

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Speaker 1: this against the Denver Nuggets, folks, I have never seen

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Speaker 1: playing in this soccer tournament coming up, and they had

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Speaker 1: first quarter. I'm like, all right, I gotta go watch

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Speaker 1: the game, guys. And Phoenix is up late first quarter

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Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty three. The Denver Nuggets go on

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Speaker 1: a seventeen to nothing run, just staggering seventeen nothing run

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Speaker 1: never a game after that. That Dallas game shocked me.

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Speaker 1: Last year. Now, I was in a playoff game in

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Speaker 1: I got home for the second half, but that was

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Speaker 1: over this one when you're witnessing and it's like, oh

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Speaker 1: first quarter. Jokich had fourteen, five and four in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter. Now, I probably should add the Suns were

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Speaker 1: without DeAndre eight in their center, who had a bruised rib.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're calling it. If you went on social media,

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Speaker 1: you saw what George Carl, the former a long time

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Speaker 1: like I'm talking like a longtime coach in this league

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Speaker 1: quote tweeted it and just were the word week. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's weak minded, weak, physically soft,

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Speaker 1: I like Monty Williams a lot. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: was nowhere to be found four of thirteen. It's just

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Speaker 1: Basically everything that he got in games three and four

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Speaker 1: holy cow, well the Sons are the favorites. Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: started a closeout game one of ten, ended up hitting

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Speaker 1: eighty one points on the on the Phoenix Suns in Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: In game six, now again they were down two starters,

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Speaker 1: I think the Nugget shot like sixty one percent in

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Speaker 1: there's no debate. Jokic is the best center in the league,

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Speaker 1: respect to Joel Embiid, who tries really hard and you know,

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Speaker 1: was the MVP of the league. He had an okay game.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think he was impactful late against the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: But Nikola Jokic is the best big band in the

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Speaker 1: league and he just dominate. These are a couple of

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Speaker 1: the lines that Jokic had in this series. Thirty seventeen

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Speaker 1: never want to go overboard. Now they get a bunch

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Speaker 1: of rests. We'll see what happens with Lakers and Warriors tonight.

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Speaker 1: But I know Draymond has handled Jokic in the past,

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Speaker 1: Junior Jokich is on another level right now. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying that because I think the Warriors have

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. Anthony Davis has been getting lauded all

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna point this out. It probably doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: games of the series, Anthony Davis block four shots, three shots,

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Speaker 1: the best team in the West. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: better team than the Phoenix Suns. Now you could argue,

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul situation now was contract is not fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: If you've got to accept pennies on the dollar, I

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Speaker 1: but I believe it was Jay Cutler in an NFC

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Speaker 1: And everybody's like, dude, how are you not playing? You

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Speaker 1: You know, there's the cult of sports fans who say

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Speaker 1: put some what was it, puts some tuss in on it,

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Speaker 1: and get your butt out there. Win the game, right,

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Speaker 1: this is what you're out here for. You're a gladiator

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Speaker 1: hurts you are go win. And Aiden didn't play and

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Speaker 1: something's got to change when you go losing six in

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Speaker 1: the finals. Last year you get smoked by Dallas at

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Speaker 1: know there was the upheaval. KD didn't play a whole

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Speaker 1: regular season. It was a small number. Whatever. This ain't

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Speaker 1: about that. Denver is just a better team. KCP awesome game.

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Speaker 1: Jamal Murray twenty six yo. It's the Trip dub Porter

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Speaker 1: could be one of those games. Aaron Gordon not really scoring.

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Speaker 1: was plus twenty six, plus twenty six, Like the narrative was,

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets don't have a bench well, Christian Brown, I

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Speaker 1: solid seven man. Okay, they don't have an eighth uncle,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Green. I don't know, guys. It's basically Bruce Brown

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Speaker 1: Nuggets team, it certainly has to be the favorites in

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Speaker 1: the West. I know you're facing Lebron nad but that's

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Speaker 1: another excruciating series for them. If the Lakers don't win tonight,

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Speaker 1: I believe the Nuggets will have four days rest when

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Speaker 1: they then host at Altitude a Lakers or Warriors team

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Speaker 1: that just went seven. And by the way, the Warriors

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Speaker 1: save Mike Kevin Durant thing after you go. I'm just

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Speaker 1: curious your thoughts on Jokich and this Denver team. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they're awesome.

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Speaker 2: I was able to kind of shut the game off

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Speaker 1: You know, it was it was over and done with.

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Speaker 2: They're really good, man, Like Jokic is, for my money,

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Speaker 2: he defends too, he defends. Yes, this specific situation, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's anybody could play ball KD. Right, and that little fine.

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Speaker 2: You know, Devin Booker and Kevin Durant looked like they

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Speaker 2: Booker got to score seventy points, right, Like that was

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: So in historical sense, I understand exactly what you're saying

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Speaker 1: watching that game and Phillip getting some open ass looks.

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Speaker 1: Eight of thirty four from deep third twenty three percent.

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Speaker 1: Now the great stat on Boston. I had to write

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Speaker 1: this down. So when Boston shoots over forty percent on threes,

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Speaker 1: which they've done a lot of this season, they are

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Speaker 1: thirty four and two. When they don't shoot forty percent,

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Speaker 1: they're twenty nine and twenty eight. Well, what did you

429
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Speaker 1: know it? They shot forty two percent from three and

430
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Speaker 1: they got the dub. It really is Rob a three

431
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Speaker 1: point league. That's I mean, that's all the Celtics do.

432
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: Now we're just shooting threes and we're doing layups. I

433
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Speaker 1: thought Robert Williams had a good game. Horford can't throw

434
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Speaker 1: it in the ocean and Boston wins. Philadelphia fans have

435
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: to be sick to their stomach. Rob, don't look but

436
00:24:53,920 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: can you guess the line for games? See when it is, Oh,

437
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they're pushing it to Sunday. I thought

438
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Speaker 1: it would be Saturday who that favors, but probably embeied.

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00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: So the spread four game seven?

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Speaker 2: Your guests, Uh, Boston minus six and.

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Speaker 1: A half not bad? Seven? Ah, I'm getting good at this. Yeah,

442
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of seven. I mean,

443
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: do they really think Harden's gonna totally no show? Again?

444
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: Like I guess, given the history, you've got to consider it.

445
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: But it's not like the Celtics have played great. I

446
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: mean they were down in the fourth quarter, I think

447
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: down three at one point. PJ. Tucker had some open looks.

448
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: Max he had a couple open looks like. I mean,

449
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: that place was ready to erupt. I thought I thought

450
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: Philadelphia had a shot man. And Boston Tatum. You know, boy,

451
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about Tatum. He really

452
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: rankles people for whatever reason. Nobody likes him anymore. Is

453
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Speaker 1: that a Boston thing or is it just they don't

454
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: like Tatum? Yeah, Tatum was one of thirteen through three quarters.

455
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: And then when it matters, you know, show this tape

456
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Speaker 1: to d book. You know there's like four minutes left,

457
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Philly's down too, and then Tatum hits a three right

458
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: in embeads mug and it's like, oh my gosh, finally

459
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: Tatum and Philly doesn't score. Tatum comes right back down,

460
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: step back on Maxie, who's like a good defender, and

461
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: it was just like Tatum is here, and again, folks,

462
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't like Boston. I don't like Boston anything. Tatum

463
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: hit another three after that, and it was just like,

464
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I don't like any Boston teams any

465
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: I don't like Boston as a city like I just

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's nothing. I'm sure we have some listeners

467
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: at Boston. I don't hate them. I just as a

468
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: New Yorker, I'm conditioned to not like Boston sports. And

469
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Speaker 1: I love me some Jason Tatum. Now it could be Rob.

470
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Speaker 1: You remember we had his trainer on last year, Drew

471
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: Hanlin yep, and he raved about a really good interview

472
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: if you want to go back and look it up.

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Speaker 1: He just raved about the work ethic and where Tatum

474
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Speaker 1: came from and what he's become. And I'm just telling you, guys,

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Speaker 1: like I still maintain he will win an MVP Award.

476
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, I know it's gonna be tough

477
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: with Luca in his prime when Ben Yama's coming. He

478
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: got next. Giannis is still pretty damn good. But this

479
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: this is two straight years in Game six when the

480
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Celtics needed someone to step up. Last year against the Bucks,

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Speaker 1: I think he had forty five and in the final

482
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Speaker 1: five minutes he had like fourteen points against sixers on

483
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Speaker 1: the road. That's a clutch rob. I know you're not

484
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Speaker 1: a Tatum guy, but that's friggin clutch.

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Speaker 2: Who said I'm not a Tatum guy. I mean, I'm

486
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Speaker 2: a Laker fan. I hate Boston obviously, but Jason Tatum

487
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: is from now and you know, for the next foreseeable future,

488
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Speaker 2: is forever known as future Laker Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 1: Oh right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we don't even got a photoshop the jersey's

491
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: on him because they already exist. He did that photo shoot,

492
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: remember for Nike and a co or with the NBA.

493
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: He's wearing a Kobe jersey and he's doing the pose.

494
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: So I don't even got a photo shop Jason Tatum

495
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: in a Lakers It already exists.

496
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: But noo, he was.

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Speaker 2: I just think it was bet MGM or one of

498
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: those betting websites had a funny tweet. It said, Jason

499
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: Tatum had the ultimate waiting until the absolute last minute

500
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: to get the project done game because he was first

501
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: three quarters, you know, one for thirteen, and then the

502
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: fourth quarter he was four for six. He was fantastic,

503
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: and it was obviously it wasn't as good as his

504
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 2: Game six in Milwaukee last season. That one was one

505
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: of the all time great performances where we're going to

506
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: see from anybody in a playoff game, but in this game,

507
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: in this specific instance, when he didn't have it going,

508
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: it wasn't like, hey, Jason Tatum was clutch, because he

509
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 2: was clutch all game and he just had it and

510
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: like we're gonna ride him all the way home. That's

511
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Speaker 2: not what it was. He was the opposite of clutch.

512
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: He was struggling. Like if if they had it, if

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00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: it was a regular season game, he been on the bench,

514
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: don't I don't with Boston.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine and a half and I bet the over.

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00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if this was not a do or die

517
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: elimination game, he would have been benched. Like that's how

518
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: poorly he was playing.

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00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: Well, I a bench he's their best player. I don't

520
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: want to hear his jail one. Would you have bench

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00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: Kobe when he was struggling.

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Speaker 2: If it wasn't a playoff game of this, Yeah, because

523
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: it's not like they don't have other options, Like Boston's

524
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: probably the deepest team in the league, and you can

525
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Marcus Smart had it going. Jalen Brown was okay, right,

526
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: you mentioned Rob Williams was really good.

527
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Speaker 1: Marcus marr by the way had a really good game.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was excellent twenty two seven and seven.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And but credit to Jason Tatum who didn't have

530
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Speaker 2: it going, never lost confidence in himself and insisted, look,

531
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: I'm still the guy. I can still hit these shots.

532
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: Get me the ball and I'll make it happen. Yeah,

533
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: And that's something that you can't teach. That's something that

534
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: you can't you know, develop over time, either you have

535
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: it or you don't.

536
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Speaker 1: But also to want those shots like some people would

537
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: shy away. Bro, he's like calling for the ball is

538
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: a little Kobe in my guy, Jason Tatum. That's why

539
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: he's future Laker. Jason Tatum. All right, speaking of Kobe,

540
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: So Friday night tonight, we got two games Heat Nicks.

541
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't dive into this. I would be

542
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: shocked if the heat blew this game. Rob yep Okay

543
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: Warriors Lakers. So the Andrew Wiggins news is that something

544
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: happened to his ribs. Have you seen a clip of

545
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: where when it happened?

546
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: I did, Actually, well you were the twittersphere is guessing

547
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: it happened. It was in the fourth quarter. The game's

548
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: pretty much out of hand and he goes in for

549
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: a post up over Lonnie Walker. Lebron comes from behind

550
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: him and it looked more like a frustration foul than

551
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: anything because they're about to lose, and he kind of

552
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: pushes him a little bit in his back and that

553
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: may have been where, at least according to Twitter, he

554
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: injured that rib.

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Speaker 1: Can I give you a conspiracy theory guy? Take? Yes, Oh,

556
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: I see the highlight you're talking about? Well, Lebron just

557
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: he's in the air. Yeah, and Lebron and Lonnie will

558
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: uh conspiracy theory? Take buried and deep in the podcast.

559
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Warriors like their chances in this game. Don't want to

560
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: hear about any Anthony Davis chikanery oh ad what he

561
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: might add? A conclusion he's not playing good. So they

562
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: say that this is an injury and Wiggins is gonna

563
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: cut through it. I don't think this is anything. Come on,

564
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: there's no way this is serious, is it.

565
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I mean, Anthony Slater reported it.

566
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: He's been on the show. He's very plugged in with

567
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: the air.

568
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and Lebron does give the two handed shove,

569
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: not just one, right, which is Lebron's a big guy. Now,

570
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, if you look back, it's not quite flagrant,

571
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: but he's in the air. Ad Or Andrew Wiggins could

572
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: have sold it and like gone down.

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00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely it. I'm not going to say it

574
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: was dirty, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Listen, if you do that at the when you're playing

576
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: over there wherever you live, at the La Fitness over there, robbing,

577
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: you do that when someone's in the air and you

578
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: push him, that's a fight. They're gonna land and be

579
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: like coming at you. Yeah, yeah, that's just not cool.

580
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I think he's fine. I mean, I'm hoping he's I mean,

581
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I can't shoot him up. I mean, for me, something

582
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: like that, it popped three advil ready to go, h

583
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins might need to shot it. What is a

584
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: total roll? Is that the one you got it tore?

585
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: They'll probably wear a flat I mean, I hope he's obviously.

586
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to be hurt.

587
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: You can, we want we want a d healthy, we

588
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: want healthy. You know, you can play with you know,

589
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: extra padding. That's not unusual.

590
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: I think Lebron played with a flat jacket for a

591
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: whole season because he kept getting pounded in the ribs

592
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: when he was going to the basket. So you can

593
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: play with it, you know, We'll just we'll see how

594
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: effective he is either way. It's the coronation is complete.

595
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: Lakers are gonna roll in.

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00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: Game six, Lakers are gonna roll. Interesting. I don't even

597
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: need to see the line. Okay, two and a half

598
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: everywhere except at Caesar's, which is the market low of two. Now.

599
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means they got hit by

600
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: someone in the lower or they think there's gonna be

601
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: Golden State money they're anticipating. But uh, we're gonna go

602
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: ahead to head. I got warriors. Wow, Okay, you're gonna

603
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: win this, right, I We'll see you think blowout? Huh?

604
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: I think twelve plus easily? What if ad starts is

605
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: laboring at the beginning or not looking that into it,

606
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: you know.

607
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: You know, earlier on Thursday, I was concerned about what

608
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: his mental psyche would be and if he'd be willing

609
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: to be as aggressive, you know, coming off of a

610
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: woozy head injury. The more I think about it, though,

611
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: I think the discourse surrounding his injury and the people

612
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: laughing at him on you know, TNT and ESPN and

613
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: other outlets, I think he's gonna come out aggressive. But

614
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: more importantly, I think his teammates are going to come

615
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: out and pick him up early. Like I think you're

616
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: gonna see D'Angelo Russell, Austin Reeves. Maybe there's a lineup change,

617
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: and reading something like that from Dave McManaman saying that

618
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: there could be some lineup changes, I think they start really.

619
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Speaker 1: Fast, start vander pul Vanderbilt, yeah, and maybe.

620
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: Get out to an early like ten twelve point lead,

621
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Speaker 2: and then from there they kind of put the clamps down.

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Speaker 1: I think they end up winning.

623
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Speaker 2: Going on, you can't go Ruie, that's just too big

624
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: and shrewder. The Warriors already play, you know, you don't

625
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: really the size doesn't make a difference.

626
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Well, they haven't been rebounding

627
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: well in the last couple of games. At least they're

628
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: not dominating like they did early.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised you're rooting for Warriors here, considering the game

630
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: seven would be on Mother's Day and you would probably

631
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: have to t bow it.

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00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: No, I think the oh I forgot about well, I

633
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: think it would probably be the three thirty game on

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00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: Mother's Day, so that means twelve o'clock Pacific.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, better run it by the missus. My dude might

636
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Speaker 2: have to change who you're rooting for.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we already have a lunch booked. Listen,

638
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Speaker 1: it's the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure she'll understand, right, you know it's no, they're

640
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: not missing it.

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Speaker 1: No, the brunch is amazing. Hmm. Interesting. I want to

642
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Speaker 1: wrap up real quick, just buzz through the Jets schedule.

643
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through every schedule. A lot

644
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: of people don't put a lot stock in the NFL schedule.

645
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: This is why I'm putting stock in it. My Jets

646
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: open up at home against the Buffalo Bills on Monday

647
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: Night Football. Now, I know a lot of people say

648
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: that's a loss. I don't necessarily think that now. I

649
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 1: remember the Bills. Was it last year where they opened

650
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: with the Rams and smashed them by a ton? Yes?

651
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, yeah, a lot of time to prepare divisional matchup.

652
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: I think the Jets will be okay, toss up game

653
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: for me. That's spread. By the way, what are you laughing?

654
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: A spread I think is one and a half or two,

655
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: so Vegas tends to agree with your boy. Then the

656
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: Jets traveled to Dallas short week because they play Monday.

657
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: I don't we'll see. I'm not scared at Zak Prescott.

658
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Next up they go home for New England. They haven't

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00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots since twenty fifteen, so they'll end that

660
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: streak obviously. Then they host Kansas City in Sunday Night football,

661
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: so if you're scoring at home, that's two primetime games

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00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: in the first four weeks. Then they go at Denver

663
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: in altitude in October in a revenge game for the

664
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Speaker 1: Broncos because the Jets beat them last year. So also

665
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: here the quarterbacks are facing wrong Josh Allen, Dak Prescott,

666
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Patrick Mahomes, and Russell Wilson. Oh and by

667
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: the way, Week six is the Philadelphia Eagles at home.

668
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: So essentially you're facing both Super Bowl teams playoff teams

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo and Dallas. For the first six are against

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00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: playoff teams from last year. You're definitely facing the best

671
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league in Mahomes, probably the third best

672
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: in Josh Allen if you have a Burrow, and then

673
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: where's Jalen Hurts. He's up there and oh, by the way,

674
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson future Hall of Famer. That's a brutal six

675
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: games start to the season. If we can get wee,

676
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: I can say we they're my team. If we can

677
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: get to three and three to start the season, I'll

678
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: feel great. Four and two it's in play Listen, Aaron

679
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: Rodgers owns Dallas. Dallas has not beat Aaron Rodgers in years.

680
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: I think like four years. It's only been like three games.

681
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: But who gives a shit. Rodgers performs well in big

682
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: time games, big time non playoff games, I should add,

683
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: so they can start three and three, Rob, is that reasonable?

684
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: You think two and four is more likely.

685
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: I think everybody looked at the schedule and they assumed

686
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: two and four, and that's because we're projecting based on

687
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: last season. The thing about the NFL is last season

688
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, right, Like the reason we have a team

689
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: go worse to first every season. Teams you think are

690
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: going to be good or not good. I mean, who

691
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: would have expected the La Rams off of Super Bowl

692
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: to be one of the worst teams in football?

693
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: Right? So?

694
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: I think if that defense a lot of continuity, the

695
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: offensive line is gonna be a big thing for the Jets.

696
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 2: If the offensive line can gel, which that's probably gonna

697
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: be the biggest question all season, then I can see

698
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: them flipping it all the way on his head and

699
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: going four and two.

700
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's in play. The range of outcomes is wide.

701
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: So I just went just for fun and looked at

702
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Who do they play around the Jets the

703
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: week before versus the Bears week after at Minnesota? Neither

704
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: of those are circle to circle the game on the calendar.

705
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: You know, you're hoping that they maybe have a letdown.

706
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Let me just check the Eagles real quick. Who they

707
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: play the week before and after the Jets. Eagles obviously

708
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: very jeez. Week before is oh, it's at the Rams

709
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: on the West Coast, and then the Eagles have to

710
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: come back for the Jets. Game, and after that Eagles Dolphins.

711
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: It's nothing big, damn it. No edge there. Okay, then

712
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: the Jets had to buy at the Giants, which is

713
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: basically in the home stadium. I'm gonna chuck that up

714
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: as a win versus the Chargers. They get Justin Herbert

715
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: at home in another in a Monday night football game.

716
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: Then they have Sunday Night football against your Raiders in Vegas.

717
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: And I'm sure if the Jets are doing well, let's

718
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 1: say they're five and three, six and two, they will say,

719
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: is this the Jets first stop in Vegas this season?

720
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: Because the Super bowls in Vegas. I'll pencil that in

721
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: as a win. Sorry, Robb gi Then they come home,

722
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: go to Buffalo in November. I'll give them a loss,

723
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: a rare loss there. Then they have the Black Friday

724
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: game against the Miami Dolphins. There will be no World

725
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: Cup around Thanksgiving this year, so we could just focus

726
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: on NFL college football. Yeah, we'll see. I don't even

727
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: know if two is going to be standing by week twelve,

728
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: then it's now. Then it finally softens up. You get

729
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Houston back to back. So even if you're

730
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: like in a tough spot home games against Dome Atlanta

731
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: in December and against Houston in December should be, should

732
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: be wins. Then they go to Miami versus Washington. Who again,

733
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: there's some of these seas roped. It's tough to map

734
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: out late season games, Like I don't know if who

735
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: is going to be playing Jimmy Garoppolo, he's not always healthy.

736
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Speaker 1: Who's a backup in Vegas? Brian Hoyer? Yeah, and bring

737
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: on Brian Hoyer please. So I don't know if you know,

738
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: we get two or twice late, which is good because

739
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: simply we don't always hell status. Now you don't you

740
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: could say, well you don't know anybody, Well, you know

741
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: two has got the concussions. That's not the case with everyone.

742
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: Then versus Washington. Another layup at Cleveland at Patriots to

743
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: end the season. Hmm yeah, Now you can see where

744
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: the total was nine and a half. Somebody in Vegas

745
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: knew something, right, they always do. Listen nine and eight.

746
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to get to the

747
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: playoffs in the AFC, But as you said, Rob, like

748
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: stuff happens. Everybody had Denver ten eleven wins, but they

749
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: were five. They were an abomination like right now, everybody's

750
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: bullish on the AFC East. Somebody is not going to

751
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: be as good next years. I hate to break it

752
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: to you. Anyways, that's a long podcast, it's a long week.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy Mother's Day weekend, shout out to all the moms

754
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Speaker 1: out there, and we'll talk to you Monday,