WEBVTT - Ep. 52: Flogging Pig Meat 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.760 Carry this because I think I love the pot of 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.200 lead melting on the electric hot plate in my bathtub. 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:17.080 Pork is back, but it's his face, you guys. It's 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.480 the look on his face, and it's peaking out from 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.720 behind this young woman exposing your week fishhole game on 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.080 a four point five star fishing podcast is it's kind 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.640 of trial by fire, Good morning to generate anglers and 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.519 welcome to Ben the Fishing Podcast. Its parents were too 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:37.880 cheap to spring for the birthday party at Chuck E Cheese, 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.120 allowing it to select only two friends to bring to 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:44.479 dinner at Pizza Hut. I'm Joe SURMELI I'm Miles Nulty, 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.000 and I really do hope that the theme this week 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.920 is not Chuck E Cheese, because even when I was 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:51.640 a kid, I'd never like, like, I never liked that 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.320 place when I was ten. No, the pizza was terrible, 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:59.400 and those animatronic bears are creepy. They're not. Yeah they were, 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.840 but I'm not gonna lie to you. I didn't even 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.600 think they had Chuck E Cheese in Hawaii. That never 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.440 crossed my no. I I thought that that intro was 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.720 gonna get a total like w t F response out 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.319 of you. I never I figured you went to like 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.679 pet poise or Mikey Max salads or something that's offensive. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.640 And my favorite was Sammy spam. All right, and if 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.200 you've never if you've never had Sam moocy be from 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.039 a gas station, you're missing out anyway, What the hell 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:30.960 is going on here? What is the theme? What are 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.960 we talking about? Really? Come on, man, it birthdays? It's 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:40.080 our birthday. This is episode fifty two, which means our 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.560 bullshit nineties laced like somewhat fishing related jargon has been 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.920 entertaining the masses in uh four point five star fashion 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:52.120 for a full year now, Oh my goodness, four and 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.760 a half all stars. Time flies when you're making bad 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.240 TV references and researching the end times for fish. We've uh, 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:04.320 we come a long way sort of kind kind of look, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.240 it's been a fun year, to say the least I've had. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.680 I've had. I've been having a terrific time making the 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.160 show with you, and I figured we must be doing 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.520 something right because the bent inbox is always full. We're 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.839 always hearing from nice things from from our listeners, and 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.920 we've con at least the good people at thirteen Fishing 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.680 into believing we have actual angling skills and knowledge, so 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:30.079 hashtag winning. You know they're I don't think they're sponsoring 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.400 this show because we can quote Billy Madison and talk 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.240 about taking dumps in alive. Well, anybody can do that, right, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.480 just simple they sponsor us because when we tell you 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.600 they're dual pitch top Waterloore rips it up in shoppy Water, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.440 you can believe what we say. We are trustworthy at 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.760 least on that front. You really can, though, Like I'm 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.840 not really playing around anymore, because that is the truth. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.200 I'm actually a really big fan of the larger size 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.560 duel And for those of you are familiar, that's like 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.400 their spook style bait um and I'm partial to the 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.520 colors Albino, rhino and natty light. And I'm really not 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.480 joking around, right. They designed those baits with like a 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.080 super ramped up nose buoyancy because you know how like 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.040 in shoppy water, your average spook wants to dive, you're 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.919 trying to work it in a little wind shop or something. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.560 The dual resists that that nose stays oriented up and 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:24.160 it walks really pretty in chop No, lie, I fished 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.400 them a little bit for stripers already, but that's gonna 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.240 come in really handy, Like in the late summer months 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.119 when we're doing Mahi off shore and you get that 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.760 that wind ripple in the afternoon, they'll still stay chuggling 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:37.800 on the top. All that that techy R and D work, 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.600 that stuff is great. But I and I'm glad that 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.520 you explained all that very important. But I'm gonna I'm 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.400 gonna give props to whoever names their color skis total. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.200 That's that's who I want to shut it right because, 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.120 like you know, hydraulic engineering to make service baits perform 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:57.040 better in choppy conditions, it's impressive. But Natty Light as 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:01.040 a color names genius. If you guys are hiring just 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.240 a full time lure namer, do let me know, Like 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.960 that'd be a great job. That would the only place 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.960 I could get that job, right, Yeah, all right, So 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.560 so we've given props to thirteen both for what they 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.120 make and how they name it, because it's all great. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.240 But I have a question for you. Yes, how does 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.000 the podcast celebrate a birthday? What does that look like? 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.280 It's easy. We just take the day off and sign 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.320 off immediately. Yes, we're going fishing kidding. I wish we 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.400 were going fishing. Um No, but I was thinking about 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.640 like the long way we've come, at least in terms 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.359 of segments since we started. And a lot of really 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.480 great friends and anglers have been on this show in 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.640 the last year, and we thank them very much for 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.480 helping this out. But if you want to be technical 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:49.640 about it, our very first guest ever ever was legendary 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:54.040 surfcaster and striper chunking expert Bob the garbage Man Brittan 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.359 And on a new ski YEP it was that was 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:00.760 that was the very first voice anybody heard sides ours, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.240 and it was it was Bob calling in a surf 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:10.280 fishing report from Atlantic City, New Jersey, mid pandemic in 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.160 episode one. That's right, and and Bob has been back 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.120 a few times, right, But now a year later, we 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.359 have our Covering Water segment, which we designed to allow 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.120 you guys to get like a little bit deeper look 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.680 into who our guests really are. And hundreds maybe maybe thousands, 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.760 maybe hundreds of hundreds of thousands of you have written 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.280 and since we started Covering Water and said, hey, you 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.239 guys have a direct line to one of the greatest 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.039 surfcasters to ever live. Why are you not doing a 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.760 Covering Water with Bob gr There's there's at least a 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:45.800 little bit of truth to what you just said. I 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.280 should say it's not it's not that we don't have 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.360 any desires. It's not like we're lacking desire to make 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:56.280 that happen. It's just that Bob's not exactly tech savvy, 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.920 right right, Yeah, that's that's why if you, if you 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:00.600 listen to the show, you know you usually calls in 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.440 his reports from public phones and leaves a voicemail. That's 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.720 what he can do. Bob only communicates through single digit 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.840 sign language or via that last phone booth that exists 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.760 in New Jersey. It's not like we could just call 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.320 him up on his cell and like, hey, Bob, let's 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:14.640 get you on the show. It doesn't work that way. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.520 But in honor of our one year anniversary, as a 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.839 throwback to how we got started, we put in the 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.279 work and we finally managed to arrange a Covering Water 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:29.760 interview segment with the legend himself. I'm going in can 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:43.000 hold it, I'm all right, so joining us today for 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.520 covering Water, We've got none other than our own resident 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:51.160 striper surf chunky expert, Bob the garbage Man Britana. Not 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:52.600 a new ski and we haven't heard from you in 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.359 a while, Bob, and I must say, I'm shocked that 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.640 you actually harness the technology necessary to join us on 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.159 this podcast. Yeah. Can you can you hear me and 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.599 ship or we recording yet or whatever? Yeah, we are great. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.240 I'm actually at the Atlantic City Public Library at the moment, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.400 the miserable lady that works here setting this whole thing 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.120 up in the computer laboratory or whatever it is. I 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.240 didn't even know they had computers in here, but in fairness, 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.240 only time I have come in here is what I'm 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.680 fishing off Tennessee Avenue. Would have to take a ship, so, 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.960 you know, way to utilize public resources, Bob, where to go? 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:33.160 Who's talking now? Niles, Miles, it's Miles. You you know 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.880 my name? Yeah, yeah, right, I know you like poetry, 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.600 books and ship, but you hate this library. Niles All 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.480 he got his five copies of MERV. Griffin's autobiography and 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.080 ten books from the eighties about playing Keino. But they 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.920 keep the soap and toilet paper full, so your tax 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.800 dollars are hard at work on my asshole. It's Freney. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.400 Well spend money, well spend so listen. Uh. Part of 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.400 the reason we were eager to have you on is 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.360 because I've kind of been dying to ask, man, why 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.880 the leap to social media? You've been so vocal over 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.280 the years about hating on the internet. Yet you you've 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:10.080 you've already wrecked up nearly three thousand followers on Instagram. Yeah. Well, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:14.120 well the short answer for you there Joey's money. Yeah, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.280 somebody told me you make big moneys on the internets. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.240 Of course I made a nickel yet, but I look 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.880 at it like playing the lottery. It's a small investment. 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.520 But maybe someday you hey, you know, but tell you 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.560 the truth. I don't even know one of them walkie 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.080 talkie phones who's probably got glued to your faces. My 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.160 neighbor's kid got one from that cricket store, and he's 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.920 a little slow and useless anyway, So I basically worked 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.560 at a deal where he follows me around and just 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.040 types whatever then I say and puts it on insta book. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:42.640 You know. So what what's the kid getting in exchange 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:48.520 for for transcribing all your winsdom the US? Yeah? I mean, 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.079 he ain't the brightest Bolton Niles. I bought him a 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.840 pack of Big League two once a week, and I 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.000 told him when I get to twenty thousand, fans will 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.560 buy him anything he wants on Phillips Head Andy's table 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.280 at the flea market. Sounds really, That sounds fair, Bob, 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.680 I think I don't know. Look, we we didn't really 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.320 bring you on to discuss your thoughts on ocean policies, 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.640 you know, but we I mean, we could make a 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.640 whole whole segment around that, we could. I I'm sure 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.800 you have some thoughts on ocean policies, um, but we 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.840 we brought you on to learn more about who you 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.719 really are, Okay, and we already know you're one of 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.760 the most revered surfcasters ever to grace the stripers scene. Correct. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.480 We already know you've caught more big stripers exclusively Chunk 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.480 and Bunker than pretty much anyone else on the planet. Also, correct, 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.040 But but our covering water segment is designed more to 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.320 find out who the man behind the skills really is. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.040 As long as I'm making enough for beef eaters or 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.600 whatever to cover the cost of the Moon's over Mihammy 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.160 at Denny's, I'll cover whatever you want. Yeah, but we'll 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.120 we'll talk to payroll see if we can get some 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.760 moons over Mihammy. You should be all set do that. 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.560 I will, I will, But in case, I'm pretty sure 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.600 you haven't listened to the show, Bob, so I'm tell 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.280 you how this goes. Yeah. So what we do on 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.160 covering water is we put two minutes on the clock, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.200 all right, and we rapid fire questions at you. And 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.280 the whole idea is you can't think too hard about 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.240 your answers. You just you just have to react. Jesus Christ, 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.880 that's easy. I do this once a week at the 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.679 Social Security office of the COVID Clinic, but they give 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.640 you even less time to answer, so, you know, a 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.920 piece of cake. Great. Then after that, what we do 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.640 with the end is we give you one full minute 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.160 to expand on anyr answers. All right, sound good? Yeah, 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.960 whatever sounds great, Niles, Let's just harry this the because 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:35.640 I think I left the pot of lead melting on 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.000 the electric top flight in my bath tub. All right, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.120 we'll move it along. Then we'll move it along. Okay, 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.680 here we go. What's the best vehicle you ever owned? 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.040 That's easy, My old Ford Pinto and my Pontiac Aztec 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.080 that got jet that's too but we'll go with it, 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:56.079 all right, Graphite or fiberglass? Only torps like Niles use graphite. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.600 If you weren't so devoted to stripe bass, what do 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.960 you think you'd fish for stripe us? What's the best 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.640 concert you've ever been to? Ship C? C R And 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.600 I traded my Ford Pintol for them tickets? If you 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.679 could fish with any celebrity, living or dead, who would 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.520 it be? Oh, that's easy, Tim the toolbag Taylor, but 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.480 he can't bring that move with the flannel with him. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:25.920 Your your favorite summer cocktail is hot sambuca? All right? 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.160 If you were forced at gunpoint to tie on a 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.680 lure for stripers instead of using a chunk, which lure 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:36.280 would it be? I'm taking the bullet, Joey? Okay, all right? 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:41.160 What's the worst job you ever had? Doing this? Right now? 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.400 All right? If you had to guess how big was 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:50.199 the biggest striper you ever caught? I don't know. Thetween eighties, 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.760 seven and somewhere in there, I guess I don't know. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.840 Mm hmmm. Are you bald under that wool hat you 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.400 always wear? Ask your mother and I else. All right, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:06.360 how about this? What's your favorite vacation destination? I'd like 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.400 to soak a chunk in Thailand one day. If you 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:13.360 know what I'm saying. I don't, of course you don't. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:20.520 Your your favorite movie is uh I don't tell mom 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:25.240 the Babysit is dead? Probably Wow, that's time. Okay, I 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:30.880 didn't see that one coming. Really that's the movie. Okay, 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:37.640 I question whether all right, Well, anyway, that's time so perfect. Okay, 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.679 let's wrap this up. I gotta run. Whoa, whoa, whoa? 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.920 You still got you still got a minute to expand 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:48.040 on anyone your answers to explain yourself. Jesus Christ, I'm 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.560 sure I accidentally left that burner on. And the last 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.120 time that happened, the old lady next door called the 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.400 dipshit super, which resulted in him discovering that I ran 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.280 an extension court upper fire escaped steal our electricity. So 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.840 unless you want to help the price to cover my 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.760 electric bill or the price to two pounds of custom 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:11.920 twenty sack us, hurry the fun. Alright, alright, alright, well, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.439 which one are you gonna answer? Which one are you 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.760 gonna expand on? Pass? Can I pass, No, no, not 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.800 have you telling this? You've got like a ninety pound striper. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.160 You gotta you didn't have to tell us more about that. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.880 For Christ's sake, that had to be in seventy nine 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.400 or eighty. That's how much I figure it. Way before 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.679 I gave it to Kenny. To Benny, he dropped into 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.880 the four to five pounds lead down its throat before 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:35.880 he took it to the Chinese place next to the 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.000 other Chinese place on Baltic Avenue. But you're looking for 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.240 some epic story, and there eight one eight to bunket chunk. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.200 I really in Stevie the cop clubbed it with a 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.079 piece of reball, and I gave it to Kenny for 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.679 a pack of smokes, half a school of sixty pound 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.679 pink andy mount of film, and and a pair of 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.960 clean socks. Anyway, I know how much you appreciate me 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.920 being here and how much I appreciate my time. So goodbye. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.160 Should I think he gone? He gone? Yep? I think 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:04.920 I think that was all we're going to hear from 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:13.400 Bob Well Niles. I knew that was gonna happen. I'm 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.160 I'm honestly shocked that we got that guy to hang 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.120 around as long as he did. But you know what, Man, 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.760 of all the brief interactions and encounters I've had with Bob, 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.640 I feel like I learned so much that I didn't 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.760 know this time. It kind of served its purpose. Covering 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.520 water did its job. There there were he didn't mean 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.480 to let some things slip, but he did on accident. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.720 The clues in there there were, they were. They were 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.680 just little missteps on his part, and they're subtle, but 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:45.600 I think they're valuable. He he referenced a super and 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.640 a fire escape, So he does he live in it? 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.120 Does he rent an apartment? Does he squat in an apartment? 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.600 That's what I'm talking about. That's what I mean. Like 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.080 that little thing, like I I just assumed like he 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.160 lived in a shed somewhere on he just slept on 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.240 moving busses like I thought he slept on the transit authority. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.240 That's what I thought. That's also a real possibility. But 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.680 while I don't think the guy has many possessions, he 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.000 does at least have multiple surf rauds. So like that's 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.600 the only reason I might disagree. But like that that 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:21.240 small nugget right like hints at a whole universe of 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:31.200 of Bob domesticity, Like, can you picture Bob doing dishes? Done? Man, 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.680 I feel like I finally learned something about the guy 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.640 that and like, where the hell it? Don't tell mom 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:42.640 the babysitters dead come from? Right? I did not see 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.160 that one coming. I was expecting, like, I don't know, 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.400 I don't know what I was expecting. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.080 I just wish you'd stuck around long enough to expand 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.680 like that was the answer I wanted to hear more about. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.880 but I guarantee, I'll bet you anything, he's never seen it. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.320 It was probably it was probably is the last VHS 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.080 like Dusty VHS he saw sitting on some flea market 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.160 table and he just went with it. It just popped 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.680 into his head. So I bet you the story wasn't 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.640 very great, which is funny because that's sort of what 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.160 we do on fish News. Just grabbed the first headline 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.200 with the word fish in it and roll with it. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:24.520 Fish News. That escalated quickly. So before we start this 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.480 week's news, I feel like I feel like we ought 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:32.040 to address the sort of unresolved cliffhanger from last week's news. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.480 You mean you mean when when Phil blew himself up 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:39.280 in a jankie boat that he made out of petroleum barrels. Real, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:44.200 real tragedy there, very sad. Just because we have chiseled 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:48.600 abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we two 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.840 can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident. Yes, 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.120 I mean, truly tragic, but that's not actually the cliffhanger 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.640 I was referring to. I mean, you know, good news 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.440 on the Phil health front, though, um, he's not dead. 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.120 The cliffanger I was referring to is that we still 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.320 don't know who won last week's Fish News, which that's 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:15.960 a problem for me, a problem. And we're terribly terribly 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.000 concerned for Phil's well being and we wish him a 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.480 speedy recovery and all that. But I mean, Phil has 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:26.640 a sacred responsibility he and and if we're being honest, 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:31.320 and we should, he was derelict in his duty by 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.120 by not choosing a winner last week, and I feel 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:39.440 like his accident was shall we say karmick maybe. I mean, look, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.880 we certainly wouldn't wish such a tragedy on anyone, especially 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.879 not our illustrious audio engineers. Um, but he he was 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.159 kind of asking for it, and the fact is the 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.720 show must go on. Um, So we sent a team 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.359 of interns to the I See You with very strict 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.240 instructions not to come back until they have a definitive winner. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.240 For both last week and this week. We didn't threaten 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.760 to fire them, okay, because that would be that would 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.000 put us in violation of federal employment law, which we 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.720 would never do. But we did inform those interns that 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.119 if they failed in their mission, they would be reassigned 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.240 to a different shall we say, less pleasant detail. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.840 Specifically they'd be working for Lance Vie, who's been demanding 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.280 his own staff in recent contract negotiations. But hopefully none 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:25.760 of that will happen and Phil will be able to 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.959 have the feeding to remove long enough to pass judgment. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.040 So remember this is a competition, Miles, and I don't 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.800 know which story is the other guys bringing to the table. Uh, 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.439 and it is my leadoff this week, So uh, somebody 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.680 give Phil some smelling salts or something, because I'm about 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.240 to drop a very pertinent information for the savvy consumer. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.520 And I've actually go I've got two gear related stories 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.440 this week, but surprise, none of them are about Yankee 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.000 sketchy or questionable products for a change like this is 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.240 this is real gear news. And the first story comes 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:02.960 from Kentucky Outdoors Media headline what the flogg anglers used 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.160 a flogger to catch bass on the St. Lawrence River. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.040 So to set this up a bit, right, the St. 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.919 Lawrence that's way up north, flows out of Lake Ontario 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.879 ultimately to the Ocean um and it also creates the 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.160 border between New York State and Canada. Now, if you're 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.680 a bass freak, you probably already know that the St. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.480 Lawrence is like a bronze back mecca, right, like just 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.880 an incredible smallmouth fishing. In fact, bass Master recently ranked 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:28.840 it as one of the top ten bass fisheries in 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:33.119 the US. Okay, so back in July, Major League Fishing 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.720 held a tournament on the St. Lawrence and just to 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.880 sort of drive home how good the fishing is there, 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.480 more than half of the eighty anglers competing caught over 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.280 one hundred pounds of smallmouth bass. Jacob Wheeler one with 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.719 over two d and twenty two pounds of bass in 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:55.679 two days. Okay, yeah, right now Lawrence, So yeah we 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:59.399 should um now because the St. Lawrence is pretty far 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:03.000 north the spawn there happens later, right, it's it's been 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.840 done where I live for for months, but like early July, 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.639 right around this time is sort of the peak of 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:09.960 the spawn up there um, which is one of the 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.840 reasons why bag limits were extra heavy. Now we're let's like, 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.960 we're not going to get off on the controversial active 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.760 of fishing to bedded fish. We've covered that here before, 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.120 and just for the sake of this story, it's neither 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.120 here nor there. Because the anglers with the high success rates, 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.600 like like it or not, we're doing it. That's that's 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.520 what they were doing. But large mouth bass now they 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.440 bed shallow, and finding bedded large mounts is generally a 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.080 a site fishing game. Small mouths tend to bed deeper, 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.600 so many of the crafty anglers in this tournament used floggers, 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.800 which has created a bit of a stir. What's a flogger, 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.000 you asked, Well, it's basically an underwater telescope. The property 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:51.159 is a bathoscope, right, so just picture a parking cone 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.720 with handles on the skinny end. I thought this was 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.760 going a very different direction. I thought a flogger was 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:01.000 something completely different. Continue, Okay, well, I'd love to know 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:04.359 what you thought it was. We'll get there in a minute. Um, 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.520 So I said, you picked your parking cone with handles, 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.840 and you have to physically lay down on the deck 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.439 of the boat and put the fat end with the 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:13.919 glass lands in the water. Then you look through the 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.520 skinny end and the device magnifies the image and helps 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.560 you see submerged structure and fish on the bottom in 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:23.360 deeper water. Well, apparently some folks are arguing that anglers 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.760 competing at this level should not be allowed to use 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.200 this piece of equipment to assist in catching fish, especially 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.920 with the technology they already have on their boats. Now. 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.560 The author of this article, John Stepp, He says he 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:39.680 initially agreed with that gut reaction, So before I go on, 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.879 I'm curious, what's your gut reaction. Then we'll see if 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:47.239 it changes, because mine kind of did. I'm I'm a 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:50.440 little confused as to how that would be more beneficial 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:54.160 than the electronics. Right, if I've already got a side scan, 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.919 I would assume that I can see bed and fish 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.320 and find them in cast to him, So, I don't 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:04.200 get how the flogger creates that much of a benefit. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.679 I guess I'm missing something here, Well, I'm gonna I'm 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.040 gonna get there. I was just like more like gut reaction, 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.680 like if you just knowing what you already know, would 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.280 be like, yeah, it's cheating, or like okay, wait a minute, 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:18.040