1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Look mare, Oh, I see you my own look over 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: there is that culture. Yes, goodness, last cult ding Dong, 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: last culturistas calling with a big announcement. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we can finally say the sleuths have 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: been getting their magnifying glasses out, smoking from their little pipes. 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: Sherlock Holmes. 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna have to create a new category rears 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Katie's publicist, finalist Kyles and Trelock Holms. 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: No, we're not. That's enough. Yeah, Kyle's I also want 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: to just fold into Katie's. Can we just officially fold Kyle's? 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: We can't do that? And what do you like? Where 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: I like? Four? 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't, No, you know what, I can't believe it's 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: already this acrimonious. You can come in here, you fly 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: in with your big ideas. You're supposed to run this 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: by me? Why would Kyles float it? Do you think 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: I forced the Kyles through? I wouldn't say that you 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: ran it by my ass on me. Well, anyway, we 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: can have this discussion. 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: But I here's the thing. 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Maybe Kyle should do something to make it so that 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: they deserve Kyle's. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: Y'all better hit us up if you want to be 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: in the acronym we're talking to you. 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, later on an episode, when don't 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: we bring our guests in? I want to pitch my 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Richards spinoff. I don't think we need any more 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: of her on my television. Well I think you might. 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: You might disagree with me when you hear what I 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: have to say. 31 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: Is it Kyle Richards does tongue twisters and we can't 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: even understand her more. I lost the big old bit. Well, 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm just trying to hear. This is 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: my cousion. 35 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: I don't like her when she gets emotional, she does 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: sort of. 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: Actually you know what, No, we do need more Kyle 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: Richard's on TV. When you hear my idea for the spinoff, 39 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: you're going to be like, get that girl in her 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: twisted tongue light on the screens again. I have such 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: a good idea for her. 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: Okay speak of Bravo. Yeah, I think it is public now. 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: August fifth, The Lost Culture Reece Does Culture Awards will 44 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: be on Bravo and streaming on Peacock the next day. 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Yes, immediately streaming on Peacock. This is gonna be incredible. 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: We are filming it in LA. We can't say where, 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: we can't say when yet. All this information is gonna 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: come out, yes, piece to meal over the next couple 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: of months. But yes, it's true. I guess in a way, 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: publicist season has begun. 51 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: This means publicist season has begun. That's why it's a 52 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: little bit delayed. Normally we have them in June. Obviously 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: the timeline is a little bit sort of shifted down. 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: But your work begins now. Yeah, we can officially say we. 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: Truly start awards season now, Yes, because that's gonna be 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: us August fifth, and then the next month probably what 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: three weeks into the month in September is the Emmys 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: whatever that is. But we will be first time for 59 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: everyone to start talking about people, things, places, happenings that 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: you think need to be called out and shower out. 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: Categories will be. 62 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Announced soon and honies following after, and then we're gonna 63 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: have a big old show again in LA. We'll say 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: more about when later, but August fifth, five, big day. 65 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: We have a Culture Award winner here. 66 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Yes, cultural Award winner. I was trying to count how 67 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: many times our guest has been on the show. I 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: think this is like eight or nine, but then that 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: wasn't including all of the sort of iconic I don't 70 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: think so, honey appearances of. 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: Course, Oh my god, Gauntlet do Gag? How about Wow, remember. 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: The Gauntlet Do Gag where our guests famously said, I 73 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. When you far in, a little 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: cum comes out in front of my mother, father, and sister, 75 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: thus bringing us all closer. 76 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: And he still didn't even win. He should have though, No, 77 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: well iconically won yeah, and she is. Yes, Rachel Pegram 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: did win that Parent Square, But it's like any awards 79 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: show where there's the winners and then there's the people 80 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: that you rigged. 81 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you'd have to take that up with 82 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: our judges for that show, which we're Jrinx Onnston in Alaska. 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Icons Wow, Wow, The Lost Coach really has remained over 84 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the years. 85 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: It has remained. Real Loss Coach really has. 86 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Remained over the especially real Coach are number four. Coach 87 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: really has remained over the years. We'll get to work 88 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: on that book soon at some point too. So our 89 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: guest is the host of Bravo Speaking of Love Hotel, 90 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: which airs on Go Ahead. 91 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: And Say It April twenty seven, eight seventh Central after Atlanta, which, 92 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: by the way, Atlanta has been great. I've heard. 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I know that we're going to talk a lot about 94 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: the happenings and housewives right now. Remember we're recording this, 95 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: what is it, April sixteen, so we're about, you know, 96 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: some days behind where we are when this comes out. 97 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: But we're going to give generalized thoughts. This is airing 98 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: the thirtieth. Thank you airing the thirtieth. So listen, everybody. 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: You know our guest, We love our guests from the 100 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: film Fire Island and the television show Loot stand Up 101 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: all across America and the world, Australia, Australia, even God. 102 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: It's just like cool it, you know what I mean? 103 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: Cool it like heading on the Delta must be diamond. 104 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: Well I bet it is. Everyone, please your ears, bister. 105 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: Million miler. Actually, yes, honey, driven to her connecting flight 106 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: on the tarmac on the Porsches. 107 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: You know that is a good perk. But one thing 108 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: is like, you better make sure that you don't have 109 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: your air pods in or else when they call your 110 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: name for that, you're gonna miss it one day. 111 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: No, I just got back from Boston in my little 112 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: pod and left my wallet, no at the airport, and 113 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: it has ruined my life because boy do I not 114 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: have proof of citizenship? WHOA, but in this climate you 115 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: need it. Tough tough stuff, tough stuff. So does that 116 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: where's your passport? I have a passport. But here's the 117 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: thing that is no longer enough. And I have a 118 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: provisionary birth certificate that illinoily issued me because Korea can't 119 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: find mine. Jesus Korea. 120 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: It's actually a little culture number eight, Jesus Korea. 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: I was likely stolen, Let's be honest, but honestly, you were. 122 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: You were at the beginning of your life. 123 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: Was a Caper's life was a caper starring George Clooney, Yeah, 124 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: and j Low. 125 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: Imagine if that was out of sight. I've never seen it. 126 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 2: I've never seen it. Wait, so it's what do you 127 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: mean it's no longer enough? Well, they I literally got 128 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: my real ID with this provisionary birth certificate that Illinois issued, 129 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: but that is no longer They need like the real 130 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: hard copy of it. Now, come on, what do you 131 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: mean now like it in the Yeah, it's because like 132 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: back when I got the real ID a couple of 133 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: years ago, it was all fine and dandy, and I 134 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: did scan my way into getting a replacement real id 135 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: by holding my thumb over the provisionary part of the 136 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: birth certificate. When I got to the death and they 137 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: don't care. The woman in life whatever, I don't think any. 138 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: Of that Express Bridge a million miler, but no. 139 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: The thing is is like the woman in line who 140 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: checked my documents is like, they won't take this. And 141 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: then I got to the desk and of course she 142 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: did right, she didn't. She doesn't care about her job. 143 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: She has no loyalty to the DMB. 144 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: It makes me feel so sad when people so obviously 145 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: don't care about what they do like or like or 146 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: or they're so checked out and hate what they do 147 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: so much. And I just walk away from people like that, 148 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, God, they have to sit there and do. 149 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: That all day? How do we how do we bring 150 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: joy to the world? 151 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: You would rather they be. 152 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: River Vermier's character in. 153 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I think the funniest moment in anything, the funniest 154 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: moment of twenty twenty four. 155 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 2: Yesli Barnea. That was so fucking that is like, where 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: was the no Viola Davis in doubt level no coming 157 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: in and. 158 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: You know this is what I keep saying. 159 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: And now that we're out of Oscar season, no one 160 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: can really take offense because it's all over. 161 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: I have to say. 162 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: The category fraud was worse than ever this year. 163 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: It's so bad. 164 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: We need rules to change the way this is because 165 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: how can we honor the River ramirez is of the 166 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: world and how can we keep honoring the Viola Davises 167 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: of the world? 168 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: Who mind you? 169 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: I will remind you the reason we have Viola Davis 170 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: is because she got an Oscar nomination exctly fourteen second. 171 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: Performing Ariana Grande versus River Ramirez period period until they 172 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: change it, Like are they gonna change it? 173 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: Then Oscar is gonna go gender free because it's they. 174 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: Who has those so far, the Indian Spirits have. 175 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: They have it, The Gothams have it, I believe, like 176 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the critics things have it. But not 177 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: all the Golden globes don't. Critics' choice does it? 178 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the wave has begun and we are restarting 179 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: the wave here. We're rippling it here. 180 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: Like you know what I think would be fun if 181 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: it's like everyone shows up to the Oscars and no 182 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: one knows who it's just it's a surprise. Five people 183 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: get oscars and it's a total surprise. It's totally random. 184 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: You've said this before and I love it. It's like, Okay, 185 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: we're gonna announce one winner. 186 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 2: Have I told you about the production of Year in 187 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: Time that my college did my senior year before we graduated. 188 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: Now where they they put up the cast list. It 189 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: was just a list of names and we were all 190 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: no cast, no characters. Okay. Everyone was very confused. And 191 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: then we find come to find out that they will 192 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: all be wearing black. I'll be wearing masks, and I'll 193 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: be playing every part, and every night will be different 194 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: wause they will pass the ball quote unquote mid song 195 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: or mid line, mid scene. This is your years old. 196 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: It was one of the worst things I have. I 197 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 2: was higher life because it's like, I just want to 198 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: see that one bitch you can hit the note writing 199 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: privileged to pee. I just want to see that one 200 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: bit you actually can hit the note. Yes, he was 201 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: set up to fail by being born with a male voice. 202 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, we all were. It's actually a little coature number thirty. 203 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: We were all set up to fail by born. 204 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: With a male voice. A map voice is a curse 205 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: a voice? Who cares what we can sing about? Oh 206 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: my god, it's real. Yeah, so that sounds like your 207 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: production of the Oscars honestly, But I'm not even behind 208 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: the differend. No, I am. I love behind this. 209 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know how to fix it, but 210 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: it needs to be fixed. I did have a whole 211 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: like rubric with how they could do the lead in 212 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: supporting things. But then I'm just like, I don't know ultimately, 213 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: who cares? 214 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: Right? Where are you finding the time to sit down 215 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: at Google sheet and break there? So you've known me 216 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: what over ten years? You know? You know, I just 217 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 2: sit here and talk. Where am I finding the time? 218 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: I thought here and now I don't know? But no, 219 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: I am genuinely curious about the same thing of like 220 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: what is your in the day, Like when do you 221 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: find the time to watch videos about universal studios, to 222 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: watch videos about to want to read prognosticators? Like you 223 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: you do have a really wonderful palette in terms of 224 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: your media, you'd but we all three of us sitting 225 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: here know that acting is ninety percent sitting around drinking liquah. Yeah, 226 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: and so like we're at your I'm sure you're in niche. 227 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. 228 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: And to answer your question and probably actually start a 229 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: conversation about what are specific things that we go online for, 230 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: I have one. I only have like three or four 231 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: little hot online hobbies. And to be honest with you, 232 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: ever since I was a very young gay kid, going 233 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: online and looking what was getting, like the oscar buzz 234 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: and finding out what was happening in the film industry 235 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: was always one of them. So now that I'm like 236 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: in the business, it's it's directly aligns with what my 237 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: online interests always were. And the same is true of 238 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: like me being on roller coaster Tycoon when I was 239 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: a little kid and like wanting to know what was 240 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: going on in that industry. So that's still one of 241 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: my niche interests. But it's like literally real housewives, like, yeah, 242 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: what's going on in the theme park industry and what's 243 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: going on in the entertainment industry and when awards season 244 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: kicks up, that really is in high gear. But those 245 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: are my things, and I'm curious, like what your guys's 246 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: things are. 247 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: I especially after this Japan trip, I am like and 248 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 2: I and you you guys have known this about me, 249 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: but it's it is specifically Final Fantasy game. And I 250 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: am all I've been doing on this press store where 251 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm this way. I just finish press for running Banquet, 252 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: and what I've been doing in between is just playing 253 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: this fucking game, being a botanist, going around the woods, 254 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: collecting tree bark and collecting plants. Are you? Are we 255 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: talking Rebirth No? Seven? Rebirth absolutely one of the best, 256 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: one of the best Final Boss sequences ever. 257 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: But I'm talking about the MMO Final Fantasy fourteen. 258 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: Oh are you? I'm still in that MMO world. I'm 259 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: ten years into this fucking game. I love this game 260 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: so some of the best storytelling period in any medium. 261 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 2: I am Jonathan Bailey voicing a little cat boy. I've 262 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: always I've always hyped up Jonathan Bailey's performance as Grahatia, 263 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: and I've even told him on the study the Seat 264 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: of Wicked, I said, I just have to tell after. 265 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: He complimented to me is a lyric from Africa. 266 00:12:54,720 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: It'shatia over my good fucking But first of all, you 267 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: don't know then I think it will be the niche 268 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: culture of people of gamers who are going to die. 269 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: The fact that you have made a lost culture moment 270 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: out of singing the name Grahatiya. 271 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: I just want to say, I sang Grahatia to a 272 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga and I think ruined that. 273 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: No, no, no, We'll just tray clean it. 274 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: And I love this. It's a really good name. This 275 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: is like it's like only l a that weight just 276 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: feel it? Did you feel it? So this type of fabric, 277 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: this is. 278 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Just that that that that'll that'll do you guys. Sorry, but 279 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: this is all going in the episode. It's because this 280 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: is a very real human moment of sisters being by 281 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: me and there for me and supporting me when I 282 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: ruined my Todd Slider tanks. 283 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: I can only want to know a l anyway, I 284 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: just want to take well, I I complimented on the 285 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: set of Jonathan Bili's performance a Graha Tea after he 286 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: was so cond inffusive about Fire Island. Yeah, so anyway, 287 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: it just I just that felt like the proper exchange. Okay, Joel, 288 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: what are your Internet? I mean mine right now is 289 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: literally YouTube essays about movie projects that never happened. 290 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: Be Kin rewind kind of wine, Henry Wine is one 291 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: of them. 292 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: Boats and Blockbusters is the one that I'm really into 293 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: and and quite frankly, hours and hours and hours of 294 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: Marvel Rivals. Oh really, I am playing so deep into 295 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: Marvel Rivals and watching YouTube videos. All that do in 296 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: my trailer is watch YouTube videos about Marvel Rivals. Explain 297 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: because I have not did my tone in Marvel warl 298 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: it is it's overwatched. But with marvels and I never 299 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: played Overwatch. I never played any of these kinds of 300 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: games before, because it seems like I need a game 301 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: that has an end point, otherwise it will happen. What 302 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: what has happened to me with Marvel Rivals, which is 303 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: I have consumed I've played over two hundred hours of 304 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: this game since December. The last four large arguments that 305 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: I have gotten in it's my fiance about this game. 306 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: What are the arguments that are well, just me get 307 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: him hilted, like fly, like getting in a losing streak 308 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: and wanting and like getting so angry, and he's like, 309 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: you can't this is a game. And then and then you're. 310 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: Not having a sports team and yelling at and your 311 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: wife JM being like I can't live like that? 312 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: Are you exactly? And he and it's so ironic because 313 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: he's he loves he's a video game producer. Yeah, I 314 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: don't know you understands. He understands, but like, and he's 315 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: wanted me to get into games. You know, we've played 316 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: games together a lot, but like this kind of game 317 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: for a minute, and then I did, and it's turned 318 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: into something quite Yes, the slope was slippery or then 319 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: you thought, can I ask not to reveal too much 320 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: about Jam? Well not people know this about j. Would 321 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: it be different if you played Legal Legends? No, okay, 322 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: because because Jam is associated, Yes, he wors it, right, 323 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: but like I don't think he definitely doesn't care what 324 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: it is, Yeah, what it is? Okay. 325 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: He probably thinks it's beautiful the game you love? 326 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he I mean he plays himself too, but 327 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: like that's the problem. Is like we're directly playing this game, 328 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: and he is so much better in video games than 329 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: I am. And it's this first time where I'm like 330 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: we've never we we never compete, but like there is 331 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: like you get ranked in this game. Oh that and 332 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: your ranking it's like do I It's like I cannot 333 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: stand that he is a higher ranked than me? How 334 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: much higher? Like a fair amount? Like it's gotten to 335 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: the point where we can't play together because he's he's 336 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: in a different tier. He's in a different tier than 337 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: I don't understand why how professional athletes are friends with 338 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: each other, because that is a thing, a system where 339 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: you are. There was a value system literally at least 340 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: at least it's an objective standard. I mean, the fact 341 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: that we're all still friends, quite frankly, is ridiculous. If 342 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: there was a numerical system that ranked. 343 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: As though they do, I mean they do, but publishing 344 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: it currently as we speak, no, but that's that's not real. 345 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: I always know where I stand when there's an announcement 346 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: about the podcast and it's like Chapel Roane was on 347 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: Bowen Yank's podcast Culture. I always remember that I'm like 348 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: down here in fifty four and we're sitting here with. 349 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: Three and three is a chasm away from two. 350 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about it then. Who's one and two 351 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: right now? 352 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: I think Jonathan's probably one, and I would say number 353 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: two is is McKellen, Matt Bomer, Andrews, Andrews gott Gott 354 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. 355 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: Three. 356 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: Famous, I'm not three. Let's speak very weekly. 357 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: You don't have, you don't have the third most viral 358 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: moment from the fucking Academy Awards. Yeah, let's not three 359 00:17:51,760 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: three and that. Yeah, and let's talk about your performance 360 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: in the Wedding. 361 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: Wait, if you haven't seen seen the Wedding bank ut twice. 362 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: It's so good. It's it's fantastic. It's in theaters, it's 363 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: in theaters and key crushes. Yeah, it's so good. It's 364 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: a great passing of the ball. I mean, it's you know, 365 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: we're talking here, my friends are being sweetheart angels and 366 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: that that's weird. 367 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: But no, Bone, you're so incredible in it everybody, and 368 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: like you're literally next to fucking Lily Gladstone. And can 369 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: I tell you I told her this at the premier 370 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: the other night. I took her hands in mind and 371 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: I said, we know you can act, mama, but I 372 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: did not know you could make me laugh, Like yeah, 373 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: I did not know you could land the joke. And 374 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: that's a riot games right, there's a riot. She is 375 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: a riot. 376 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: She gives her like a sweet, soulful performance. I love 377 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: Kelly Murray Tramp. 378 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: Kelly Mury tranp will I hope, I hope that this 379 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: is like her Phoenix rising Reavers. I love yeah, because 380 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: the way these fucking geeks and nerds and losers and 381 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: in cells treated that woman. Oh yeah during STARp and 382 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: the infrastructure of Disney and Star Wars not protecting. And 383 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: what I find to be the perfect sort of inversion 384 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: of that is that she felt that she was given 385 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: time and space to come out as queer. Like she 386 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: did this Vanity Fair interview and she like kind of 387 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: in it, like kind of blurted out that she was 388 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: like excited to make a movie as a queer person. 389 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: This a queer movie as a queer person. She's like, wait, oh, 390 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: I've never told anyone that before Publicly, They the journalist 391 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: David Canfield Bless and the producers of the movie were like, 392 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: we're going to hold the story until you decide what 393 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: you want to do with this. And then she came out, 394 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: made that decision and then has felt nothing but love 395 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: and support ever since. And I'm like, that is the 396 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: perfect panacea to that crazy, crazy experience of Star Wars, 397 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: which I'm like, now it just seems like it's not 398 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: quaint in retrospect at all. That is, it's still it 399 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: still remains crazy to me in terms of that scale 400 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: and that outreach. But I'm like we've all kind of 401 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: experienced that here in some degree too, where I'm like, God, 402 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: what is and this is the thing that that's the 403 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: thing that Matt has said. It's like it's bad. The 404 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: culture is bad because the political climate sucks, and therefore 405 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: people exercise any kind of controller will over the culture, 406 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: over what they consume. And so I'm like, I'm so 407 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 2: glad Kelly has this moment to come out of that 408 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: and be like, Oh, now I know what it's like 409 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: to be like held and loved for who I am. 410 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: She's really fantastic in the movie, like and and it's 411 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: also like I was I did the Q and A. Well, 412 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: there was like a special screening last night. I did 413 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: a Q and A with Andrew and the cast. Then 414 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: one thing that I was noticing is she's got so 415 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: many individual relationships to places really like it's a true ensemble, 416 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: but she is the lead. 417 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: Andrew is such a fucking wonderful collaborators. He allows every 418 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: performer to put so much And I can tell I 419 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: just know knowing him and having worked with all of 420 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: you two. Like I was watching the movie and I 421 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: was like, well that's Bowen. Yeah, that was you know, 422 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: and like that like there's a there's a beautiful silent 423 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: moment between the Lee Gladstone and that came so great Andrew, 424 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: you know, collaborated with them. This scene that has no dialogue, 425 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: that is one of the most beautiful scenes and that 426 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: came from them, And like and the fact that Andrew 427 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: allows space for that in his films. I mean you 428 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: you guys remember Mare Island was just sort of like 429 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: there was so. 430 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Much connective tissue there. And one thing I was noticing 431 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: is like the theme and like this of polaroid pictures 432 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: and family photos. Like my compliment to him that I'll 433 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: say now on the podcast, because I feel like I 434 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: could walk into the house of the wedding banquet, because 435 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: the house where they live is also a character. And 436 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I say that and not an annoying section in the 437 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: city is like the city of the Fifth Woman way, 438 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: which is what I just mean, Like the house is 439 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: this like beautiful landmark, but it's more than that. I 440 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: feel like I could walk into that house and know 441 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: where everything is. Yeah, And I feel like as a director, 442 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: his sense of place and his sense of like community 443 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: within an environment is so strong, and he's so he's 444 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: so gifted at creating atmosphere. 445 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: Can I say, though, Matt, Unfortunately, like intent doesn't always 446 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: relate to impact. So you're saying you're not you're saying 447 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: it not to be annoying, does it? But unfortunately we 448 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: get to the side was it annoying or not? No? Personally, 449 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: can I say to you that I had a really 450 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: emotional moment when I went to the premiere and the 451 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: big poster was on the screen and it was the 452 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: first time I'd ever seen from the director of Fire Island. Yeah, 453 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: I feels like I was like, oh, that that is 454 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 2: kind of forever for a sect, well at least like 455 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: it's still alive in that way, and there's like, I 456 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: don't know, a legacy now like our our movies, our 457 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: sisters like yeah, but it's that It's that that quote 458 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: in the studio and that pile of the studio that 459 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: Catherine O'Hara says, where it's like, if you make a 460 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: great movie, it's great forever. 461 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, That's that's the beauty 462 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: of film. 463 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: And let me I'm gonna say this and I don't 464 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: care we're masturbating. I don't care that we're resting, but 465 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 2: like somebody posted a photo of a bootleg DVD that 466 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: they had created a Fire Island, and I reposted it 467 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: and everyone thought I was mad about them. No, baby, 468 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 2: please bootleg the film. Okay, I need physical media. Yeah, 469 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: we actually do need physical I'm like the way it's 470 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: living on streaming and like at the whims of Disney 471 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: and whatever tax breaks they might be looking for at 472 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: any given moment. Yeap, it is so scary to be that. 473 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, I need you all to disseminate the like 474 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: it would be currency in the New world. 475 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 476 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: Do you know what I actually did, like, not not recently, 477 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: but not a long time ago, like someone I hadn't 478 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: even thought about it. I love that for you in 479 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: a while, but I was like, you know what, it's 480 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: been like a couple of years since I've watched it. 481 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: Let me just like watch it. I was with a 482 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: couple of friends. Now you can't even watch it. You 483 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: have to buy it on iTunes, you can't stream it. 484 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: They did write it off as a tax that's crazy, 485 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: and you can't watch it anywhere. They did such great 486 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: work and then it gets written off like a fucking 487 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: tax right off. And then all the time now in 488 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: the era of streaming, which I guess we thought we 489 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: really had it good there for a while because we did. 490 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Netflix, thank you so much for completely changing 491 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: the contours of our entire industry for the worst in 492 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: many ways, and also please buy my shit. 493 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: It's like it's like, I guess if it hadn't been them, 494 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: it would have been something. 495 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 496 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: It's like that's that's I guess. The thing is, it's 497 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: like that's the way the industry was going to change. 498 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: You know. 499 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: What I was thinking about the other day was the 500 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: quibi of it all, Like quibi like failed so spectacularly, 501 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Like we we both had shows like like launch with it, 502 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: but the idea wasn't wrong. 503 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: No, because listen, my boyfriend works for a Chinese own 504 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: company and has meetings with China over there all the time, 505 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: and and TikTok and China is much different than TikTok 506 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: over here in some ways, because all they're doing is 507 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: creating now narrative content that is broken down into five 508 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: to ten minute chunks every time a quick bites, and 509 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: it's taking off like wildfire in China, and it will 510 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: be modeled over here eventually. He was just too early 511 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: and I think the pandemic kind of well, the pandemic certainly, 512 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: the lack of ability to make stuff viral really was 513 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: really what killed it. The lack of that was a 514 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: cute I remember. 515 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: I remember we had to completely game show, had to 516 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: completely rely on like what the social was. 517 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, sure, like you don't know what's 518 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: taken screenshots of a Honey. 519 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Wasn't even born at the time. There was no ever 520 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: ross cats, just stuff. 521 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: That's how K dramas are too. Apparently, because was saying, fantastic, 522 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 2: She's so huge, fine, huge, fine, like so good, what 523 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: a revelation. I know, amazing. 524 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: I was saying, like one of my favorite moments of 525 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: the whole movie is, well, this is a spoiler, but 526 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: there's a moment of like pure ex pure joy and 527 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: euphoria that he has towards the end of the movie. 528 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: Future legend, so sweet. But he he comes from this 529 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: whole pedigree of K dramas where they just it's it's 530 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: it's basically a movie. It's like what Fire Island would 531 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: have been on Quibbi, but they break it down into 532 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: like these like two minute episodes. It's really that is 533 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: the future in a Stereotte. 534 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: They were without a like I I genuinely believe that 535 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we even talk about all 536 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: of these things is because there was a piece of 537 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: content to launch it, like with Netflix, Like the reason 538 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: why they became a prestige streamer was because of House 539 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: of Cards and then Orangers the New Box Little and 540 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: the reason why. 541 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: We talk about in spacey out the door, Yes. 542 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's coming in. And then like even HBO, 543 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: like the Sopranos and Sex and the City like made HBO. 544 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: So it's Quibbi was without a flagship piece of content. Yeah, 545 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: because they went for you know, and this is not 546 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: even the drag what we were doing, but like stuff 547 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: that felt like quick bites. 548 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: No. And the thing is, though, I will say, is 549 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: they took big swings. Like no one wanted to buy 550 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 2: Fire Island. No one before it was a completed project 551 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: at Quibi, right, no one wanted that, no one would 552 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: touch it. Yeah, And there was originally a quick bite yeah, 553 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: and then they were the only ones who were really 554 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: who really believed in it as a project and like yeah, 555 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: so I I oh, jeffre Yatson break by. 556 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: I remember I remember walking from the our games to 557 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: the office that Dave and I shared at the at 558 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Jack's over to your office and watching Joel put like 559 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: the the index cards up on the board and they 560 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: had the Fire Island plot points. Wow, when he was 561 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: still creating it as like a ten episode. 562 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: I mean it didn't change much from Quibi by the 563 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: Way to us, Like I basically just took out the 564 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: act breaks and like squeezed it together and made it 565 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 2: one big long script. 566 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it didn't really change. But they would 567 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: have made you cast like George Clooney as Conrad. 568 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: No. We I mean we basically had like a full 569 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: cast off like Boone was always attached to it, like 570 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: I think you probably were, even because we were getting 571 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: ready to film. 572 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: I remember who my Charlie was. Yeah. 573 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was like it was like we were 574 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: there and then I don't know, it just it all changed. 575 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, because did you now did you see I 576 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: fa I think it was like Gay Times or something, 577 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: and now it was like talking about the Fire Island sequel. 578 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: I want this he was. He was pushed in the 579 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: interview about the sequel, and I think he was forced 580 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: to give an answer, and then they of course ran 581 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, no, I know we've all been sucked 582 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: over by had Like I think everyone has been asked 583 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: about that. I'm not really that mad about it. But 584 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: the thing is, it's like it's just it's not happening. 585 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk about legally blonde two, honey, let's talk about 586 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: three reality. 587 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: First of all, blonde, we we we can we can skip. 588 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: It because now there's going to be another one. Yeah, 589 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: is the real Yeah? 590 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: No, But it's just like, let's talk about successful comedy sequels, 591 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: especially rom com sequels. I think people think they want 592 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: to see it, but they don't actually want to see it. 593 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: Like I think what I want to do and what 594 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: will scratch? That's the rare sequel that approves. But like 595 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: I think, like I just want to cast the same 596 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: fucking people in the same movie, do Christopher guest and 597 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: just have like my okay, so do it and you'll 598 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: be hearing from my Oh that's what I had heard. 599 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: No, I mean, listen, I do still think Fire Island 600 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: two Provincetown is a funny title, but I mean, but there. 601 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: Was that summer we were workshipping a lot of ideas 602 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: about how to like, how do how do they like 603 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: reintroduce dex Like's character. Yeah, and I also had. 604 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: An idea that me and Thomas's podcast exploded and we 605 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: were rich and so that that was kind of a 606 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: grifter and dating me for my money my huge podcast. 607 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: I can't remember whose idea what it was that we 608 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: just cast him as a different character and we're like, it, 609 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: doesn't he look like everything guy? 610 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: But Wickham remains in the story that Zay Phillips looks 611 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: like every gay guy is crazy. 612 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: He certainly does know. He certainly doesn't. Sweetheart, sweet gonna 613 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: be well, no, I shoul you know. But but he's 614 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: but there, there's gonna be a little re union, you know. 615 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: We we might be working together the other night. I 616 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: love such good end, such good ende, so funny, so nice, 617 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: and it's so annoying. It's so annoying to look like 618 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: that and to be smart and charming and nice and 619 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: truly negative creature reader a not not capital R reader 620 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: literally literature. 621 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: He was always reading on set. He was always I 622 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: remember my images in my image of Zay will always 623 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: be I would go come out of my trailer and 624 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: we would have like this like bench area where would 625 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: always say it and he would be eating his chicken, 626 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: drinking a hot coffee and doing the word yeah. And 627 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: that was always his. 628 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: And that's who he is on the inside. Ignore what 629 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: you're saying on the outside, honey, because that is not him. 630 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: That's not that is not him. 631 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: It gets easier when you're around him a long time. 632 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: No, it does, I will say, though, like it is 633 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: genuinely like I remember filming our meat cu moment in 634 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: the movie and being humiliated. It's like what and what 635 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: will happen now he's in la. This has happened three 636 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: or four times. It is so infuriating. Will be at 637 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: one of these like stupid gay parties and some guy 638 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: will like come up Andy, Like We'll be standing in 639 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: a clumb next to his ay and he'll introduce himself 640 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: and be like, Hi, I'm Joel, and like he'll go 641 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: around the line and get get Desayane and be like, 642 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: oh my god, you're the guy from Fire Island and 643 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: I'm like standing there paid fucking dust and I am 644 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: like it is. I was like I fucking made you 645 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: and I will brought you into this world. Wait, wait, 646 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: let's just speak on this because I experienced this recently 647 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: of getting the nerves when you're acting with the hot person. 648 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Oh not that it doesn't, it happens all the time, 649 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: but certain people really fuck your shut up. Where I 650 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: was like John Ham was hosting us, and now I 651 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: was just like huh, like we were playing a couple, 652 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: and I was just like, wait, I'm scared, like this 653 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: is like this is like I'm this is He's there's 654 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: no reason to no reason to feel nervous around him, 655 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: just such a wonderful person. But I was just like, wait, 656 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: but you're so first of all, you're Don Draper, second 657 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: of all, you're so handsome. Third of all, you're so funny, 658 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: like like just so many wonderful things about that man, 659 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 2: and sometimes it it knocks me off my center. It 660 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: knocks me. For me, I was just and like, trust me, 661 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: I've seen what people have said about it, like of 662 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: course this guy cast this guy to be like uh no, 663 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: to make out with whatever, but like no, you do 664 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: think you do take yourself out of it a little bit, 665 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: and suddenly those little you're inner saboteur comes knocking behind 666 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: and you're like, what are people going to say when 667 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: they see this? Right? You know, but it's not even that. 668 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: It's just like there's something in the space of acting 669 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: with someone where you're just like, oh, I mean I 670 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: genuinely thought that way. The reason we cast Conrad is 671 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: because Conrad made me get in our chemistry. I was 672 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: so flustered because he is such a vibe, like I mean, 673 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: a hot man, like on paper just physically pictures, yes, 674 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: it reads he's very hot. But then you get with 675 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: him and like that close to him, and it's just 676 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: like the nerves are like it's crazy because he is 677 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: so charismatic and such a vibe and like gravitational feeling distorted. 678 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: He's great. I want nothing for the best for all 679 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: of you, except for one person I want. No, it 680 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: wasn't you. Is this real? No? No, No, Everyone's family. 681 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: Everyone's family. 682 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: The chain is alive for birthdays, the chain is alive 683 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: for when someone. 684 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: Runs in ex Yeah true, I will say. So. We 685 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: were briefly evacuated during the La fires. John Michael was like, 686 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: we should the night before and I live in an 687 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: area that is normally not affected by fires at all, 688 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: and he was like, we should pack go bags and 689 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: I was like okay, like thinking this is never going 690 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: to affect me. I don't need to do this. So 691 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: I just packed to go back with my passport and 692 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: my uh social Security card, which apparently is not enough. Yeah. 693 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask no and nothing else. And then 694 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: the next day I drived San Diego for a gig 695 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: and I get the evacuation noticed and he said, don't worry, baby, 696 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 2: I grabbed your go back before we went, and I went, 697 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: but did you look inside of it? And he said no, 698 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: why would I you need to? And of course this 699 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: is this is an impasse that you get to with 700 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: your partner where you're like, I'm mad at you, but 701 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: I know I have no I have no standing legally 702 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: in a court of law. I have no standing. You 703 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: told me to pack the bag. I did not pack 704 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: any underwear, toiletrees or anything. So he just grabbed an 705 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: empty and he just grabbed the empty bag. But what 706 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: he did decide in the moment of panic to grab 707 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: was the glad Award and the gothmain Ward, oh the Cudestic, 708 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: because he was like, he was like, I don't know, 709 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: I just like maybe you might want these, like something, 710 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 2: this is so funny. Not any underwear or toothpaste up, sorry, 711 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 2: but like we do sit at home alone and play 712 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: the newly went game. Just to practice, because just practice, 713 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: because the and the and the real strategy here is 714 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: it's not about answering what you really feel. It's about 715 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: answering how you think your partner will answer. It's mentalism. 716 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 3: I was going to say, it's a mentalist. 717 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: There was a mentalist at the screening last night, and 718 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: he blew my mind. Anyway, we'll keep talking about. 719 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: This, no irene, no no, no no no wait wait 720 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: but no, I was not going to say, because like 721 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: he he he knows that if someone asked, what is 722 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: Shole's favorite movie? 723 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 2: Obviously that's a ridiculous question, a crazy who has it? 724 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: Like if you have a favorite movie? I don't think so, honey, 725 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: like grow up. But he knows the answer is my 726 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: best friend's wedding. Yeah, answer for him. Ist versus the world. 727 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: And so now when. 728 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: You're put in the situation where you have to play 729 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: the newlywed game, you know, speaking of being awed, do 730 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: you have something? 731 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 2: Oh yes, I think you have something to ask Chure Awards. 732 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 2: Here's the real announcement for the pod. Here's the real thing. 733 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: I was not brought on to promote Love Hotel. I 734 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: was not brought on to anything else. I was brought 735 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 2: on for this announcement and this announcement alone after after 736 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: years away that these two let's get textile, textile, don't 737 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: forget me in the circle Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers 738 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 2: are in. Can we say what we're planning on doing, 739 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: not when, not when, but for the for the NOLA, 740 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: we're doing joint bachelor parties, separate houses, so smart, separate house, 741 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 2: separate houses, and then we've joined together for one night. 742 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: The rest of the time we just get to be 743 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: for the last time with our friends before we'd never 744 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: see before. You can never sleep with anyone again. I yeah, 745 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: I know, I'm really excited. You know, we're not finding 746 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: out what the other person is wearing to the wedding 747 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: until the day of Well that's beautiful. And what's happening 748 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: is my stylist is coordinating that we don't look insane 749 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: and then also coordinating with whatever you guys, cause it's 750 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: sort of going to be like a free free for all, 751 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: like un he will just like I will send you 752 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 2: like color palette and just like live within that world. 753 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 2: But like, yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna be precious 754 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: about like everyone where everyone thank you, because my my 755 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: big ripe, biggest scripe with weddings is there's such a 756 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 2: single use fashion right to it. 757 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 3: It's like a wardship. It's like, oh, what do you mean, 758 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 3: I can only wear this once? 759 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: You know, thank you for so we can like go 760 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: from our own you can pull from the closets. Are 761 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: you thinking? I don't know yet he wants me to 762 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 2: do the mood board because it's I kind of wanted 763 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 2: to be like, well, obviously like he's gonna probably wear 764 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 2: white and I'll probably wear black because I and the 765 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: boy and he's a girl, but I I do sort 766 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 2: of and this was this actually came to mind watching 767 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: your film, is I would love to reference situational Korean 768 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 2: wedding wedding outfit, but like not not the full giche, 769 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 2: but like some embroidery, it's something that's something that is 770 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: like a reference to that because I do want to 771 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: have that in my way, you know. Yeah. So that's 772 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: sort of where I'm at right now, and we'll see what. 773 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: I have no idea what that boy is planning for it, 774 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: but again I will becoming in a traditional HM box 775 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 2: hand bo I say it wrong, No, no, it's you 776 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: said it. You said a great you say everything perfectly. 777 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 3: I think I would slay them. 778 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: Yes, gosh. But you know, Kim, she at the premiere, 779 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: I got to tell her to her face, is like, 780 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: your ball challenge is still absolutely your football challenge is legendary, 781 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 2: still one of the best. Drag Race. 782 00:38:54,160 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: Premiere slation, Diva slation, the premiere she's making, let's jo up. 783 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: I have to say, I didn't watch this last season. 784 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: We can talk about it. It feels less urgent to 785 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: watch it, I would agree, and yet also more in 786 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: a weird way. Well, the ratings keeps, you know, it's 787 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: feeling more and more distant for me. I mean I 788 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 2: still watch it live when I can, when I have 789 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: the chance, but it is like it does feel less 790 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 2: like urgent like I used to be, like if I 791 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: am not there seeing it like in that moment, like 792 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 2: I am offline, I am not, you know, like so 793 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: scared of spoilers, and now it just doesn't feel it 794 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: doesn't feel honestly quite as much for us. Do you 795 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 2: want to know why? 796 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: It's because here's what it was for for us, and 797 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: this is why we really loved it. Obviously, the queens 798 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: were incredible and they were all like aspirational and older 799 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: than us and smarter, Like it felt like they were 800 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: funnier and smarter than us. Not to say the girls 801 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: aren't giving now, but we're literally older than everyone watching 802 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: the k And also another thing is we were watching 803 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: at it at a time when it was very community 804 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: building for us, you. 805 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,479 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, at a gay bar, got older 806 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: and and the show is just unfortunately, like I'm really 807 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 2: excited for people to discover the show in the later 808 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 2: seasons because unfortunately, I think what has happened is that 809 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: you see these queens and they're they're all very talented. 810 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: And this is not to take away, but it has 811 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: become sort of like, oh, that's your that's Jinks. Yes, 812 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 2: that's just New Jinks. Yeah, that's just her, And that's 813 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 2: like giving someone and that's like, that's why Simon actually 814 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 2: is my favorite of the New Reason I would agree 815 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 2: Simone feels like she created a new arch lane archetype 816 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: for herself and and that and I don't know that 817 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: any of the other Reason winners have quite done that 818 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 2: in quite a direct way. They're all wonderful. I love them. 819 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: A huge Anympia fan, huge Willow fan. Yeah, like all 820 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 2: of the amazing but that's not to take away from that, 821 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 2: but like, let's be honest. When we went to drag Con, 822 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 2: drag race is for and this is not a pejorative, 823 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 2: no drag races for Katie's. 824 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say kids, no, no, no, And 825 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 3: I will say, like it did become like it. 826 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: It was interesting because now I'm like, now with everything 827 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: changing again, I'm like, because I remember we were at 828 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: the DragCon promoting Fire Island and there were so many children, 829 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: and now it's like they're really trying to divorce drag 830 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: and you know, queer identity at all from like exposure 831 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: to kids or whatever. And I'm like, how can you 832 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: not say this is a positive thing, even if me 833 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: as like a true faggot who like misses when there 834 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: was lube commercials on logo watching drag Race, you know, 835 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: I do miss that like rawness of it and the 836 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: aspirational quality of what they were doing in terms of 837 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: like I'm entering into the queer community and learning so 838 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: much about this. I still was there and I'm like, 839 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: you know what, these kids are empowered to be anything 840 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: they want to be, and there was nothing weird about it. 841 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: There was something ugly about it. There was nothing sexual 842 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: about it, which is what they're trying to like make 843 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: it all seem like it's like a grooming center, and 844 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: it's like it was nothing to do with that. It 845 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: was only empowering. Even if I felt like, oh, it's 846 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: for kids now and straight people now, it's still felt like, well, 847 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: we won in the fact that like this is mainstream culture. 848 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 2: And to say like it's not urgent watching for like 849 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 2: the three of us, it's not to say that it's 850 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: not an urgently like no one is happier than trump 851 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: On than Paul Charles, Okay, because the show it has 852 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: made the show so important, so so important and just 853 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: you know, allegedly, but it is it is sort of 854 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 2: like I don't want to talk about the state of 855 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: the world really on this, Let's keep it light, but 856 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: like it does make this show. You watch these shows 857 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: and we're so disensitized to it because we've so we've like. 858 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 3: Been lucky to have seen it, to see it exactly. 859 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: But like, you know, it's exciting that this is this 860 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: continues to skyrocket and will continue to be an outlet 861 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: for these kids. But the other thing that makes it 862 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 2: hard to watch sometimes is that it drastically altered the 863 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 2: landscape of what dragon the real Yeah, and it created 864 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: an entire cottage industry that did not exist right, right, 865 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 2: that did not exist for drag queens before. The model 866 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 2: of what a working drag queen now looks like is 867 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: so different from what it looked like back, you know, 868 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 2: even ten to fifteen years ago. 869 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: But that's even changed back in the last couple of years, 870 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: as like spaces close, as like laws start getting put 871 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: into place. 872 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 2: The show is very important, and I'm I have enjoyed 873 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 2: the hell out of this season actually, Like I just 874 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 2: remember Alyssa and Tatiana lip syncing and watching that live 875 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 2: in a gay bar, like and the people reacting like 876 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: you could just it was so utter joy y, you know, 877 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: and like I just I enjoy getting together with my 878 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 2: friends and watching it is a very nice communal Friday ritual. 879 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 2: But it just like I feel ten thousand years old totally. 880 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the reason why like Survivors development cycle, 881 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 2: and it's the way that has aged over time. Is well, 882 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 2: they're facing a very similar problem in that the contestants 883 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 2: now are so aware of the meta totally the world 884 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 2: outside of they're so concerned about what the narrative is 885 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 2: going to be. Yeah, and they know the game so 886 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: well that they and actually all credit to queens like 887 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: Corey King, who said in an interview she worded everything 888 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: in those confessionals so that they would have to use her. Oh, 889 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 2: was like, I know, the real winner of this show 890 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 2: is who wins the confessional queen of the season. And 891 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: to be honest, Corey was like fourth or fifth out, 892 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 2: but one of the most memorable queens and has had 893 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: such a like I think was number one on cameo 894 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: for a while like afterwards and has like become like 895 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 2: sort of like the winner of the season game. So yeah, 896 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 2: she's and she knew going in how to do that, 897 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: and I all credit to her, all like love and 898 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: power to her. But it is also like it makes 899 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 2: it less about the show about the show, I don't know, 900 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: it's just like if it's like a different game than 901 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 2: it was when when you know what I was gonna 902 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 2: say about Survivor though, is that like that can age 903 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: in a way that like somewhat linear, like more people 904 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: like discover the show and retroactively get into it. But 905 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: it's like no one was ever really going to bars 906 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 2: to like meet up with their friends to watch Survivor necessarily, 907 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: which is. 908 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: Weird because you know what, now, actually they are. We 909 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't even go to Top tonight to watch it. They 910 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 1: have a great watch party that I do every week. 911 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: And what I'm saying, like with Root, with drag Race 912 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 2: starting out like that and now with that dissipating as 913 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 2: people get older, as people don't go out as much, 914 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 2: with COVID whatever, like yeah, all these reasons, it's like 915 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: it has lost some of that binding agent. And that's 916 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 2: and that's not the show's fault. 917 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: But Survivor is funny because like, Survivor is huge with 918 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: nerds and gaze, Yeah, nerds and Gaze, and that is 919 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 1: who was reflected in the casting too, and gay nerds 920 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: like and I can't sometimes I get lost watching it 921 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,879 Speaker 1: because these people know the game so well. 922 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: It's so they have to throw eight million twists into 923 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 2: every episode. 924 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: And you if you don't watch it with your full brain, 925 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 1: you you missed. 926 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 2: It can't be ambient. 927 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 3: It can't be a drags can be ambient, which I appreciate. 928 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, I mean the way I will 929 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 2: put on I've watched certain seasons of Drag Race, like 930 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 2: dozens of times probably at this point because it is 931 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 2: just like. 932 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 3: Season eight, season nine. 933 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 2: Seas, you know, like the All Star season is also 934 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 2: really exciting, I mean really excited about this insane Survivor 935 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: esque all Star season that's about to come out. 936 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 3: Wait, what is that? 937 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: I'm not sure of Dragers, I don't I'm not sure 938 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 2: how much has been announced, but it's eighteen queens. And 939 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 2: I will say that the format, from what I have 940 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 2: read the scuttle online is is that the format might 941 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 2: mirror a certain other reality. 942 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: Okay, did you see Bob the Drag Queen was like 943 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 1: All Stars for losers? Damn yeah, Bob the Drag Queen. 944 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 2: But like Bob is one of the few winners or 945 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 2: queens from that franchise who can get away with saying that. 946 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: You're sort of like, yeah, okay, you know what though 947 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 1: all Stars is for losers? Like is something a drag 948 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: queen should be saying? 949 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 950 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: Total total and it is like or one of the 951 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 2: last winners who will say like whatever the whatever the 952 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 2: fuck on that podcast, you know, because I just had 953 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 2: a realization moment getting off Twitter, and like part of 954 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: it was the reason I got off Twitter was I 955 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 2: was hacked by the Russians en it was away from 956 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 2: my account for four days and to pay a lot 957 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 2: of money to a lawyer to get in contact with 958 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 2: Twitter to get my account back, and then I deleted 959 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 2: immediately because I kept a little note of all the 960 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 2: things I would tweet if I had access to my account. 961 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 2: And then I read it back after four days and 962 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 2: I said, none of this is using, none of this 963 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 2: is none of this is That's incredible that you did this. 964 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't need to say this about 965 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 2: Ashley Tisdale, Like why would I say, Why would I 966 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: say she said nothing? She's an innocent person. And I 967 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 2: now have like it's just like your perspective really does shift, 968 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 2: Like it's so crazy, like I am answering, I am 969 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 2: not in the I try not to be in the comments. 970 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 2: After years of doing this, you we all struggle with this, 971 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: I know. But because the thing is is I know 972 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 2: all six reasons why people hate me now and no 973 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 2: one says, no one says anything different. It's all in 974 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 2: the same six buckets. 975 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, there is between it's it's it's it's a. 976 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 2: Short list, and it's God blessed them, No one says 977 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 2: anything new. I'm like, there's no new reasons to take 978 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 2: me yet except the new string that I am seeing 979 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 2: on some of my videos that come out, like on 980 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 2: podcasts such as this is people being like, his work 981 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 2: looks crazy? Why is he getting all this plas they've 982 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 2: gotten botox yet? Bitch? Okay, I'm pushing forty with Rose 983 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 2: giving filler that one I asked the seventh bucket now 984 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 2: is that I see I've been seeing that like happen 985 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: and I'm sort of like, huh, I guess you think 986 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 2: that that's a function of time. I think I don't know. 987 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 2: I think it's it's this weird. I think it's a 988 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 2: weird it feels like counter and two like it. It 989 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like these both can be true. But I 990 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 2: think it's because I both look older but don't look 991 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 2: as old as I look, and that those two things 992 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 2: combined have caused people like what confused people because I 993 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 2: do look very much the same as I did ten 994 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 2: years ago. I'm just saying that it's like the hair. 995 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 2: Probably it throws there's one thing about framing the face 996 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 2: that throws people off, and they're like, well, he's gotten 997 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: work done. It's literally the hair growing out and getting permed. 998 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 2: It looks amazing. I wanted to come in here and 999 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 2: talk about like fucking white lotus, and I'm like, oh, 1000 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 2: that's a distant talk about white lotus. You know, I 1001 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 2: do want to talk about white lotus a little bit 1002 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 2: and say I think that My take on season three 1003 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 2: is that it is a lot of really captivating, wonderful 1004 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 2: moments that did not coalesce into so you were not 1005 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 2: ultimately at the season. I enjoyed my experience on a 1006 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 2: Sunday to Sunday basis of watching each of those episodes, 1007 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 2: But did I come away thinking like that it all 1008 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 2: came together at the end, like as like something meaning 1009 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 2: I don't know that I can say that, like I enjoyed. 1010 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 2: I really thought it was high quality performances really on 1011 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: an episode to episode basis, very good writing and good 1012 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 2: great moments. But the only thing I'm going to take 1013 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 2: away from that finale is Cary Kuon's monologue. Yes, the 1014 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 2: only thing. 1015 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: I think, so, I think see, I was so I'm 1016 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: a huge fan of season three, Like I loved pretty 1017 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: much every single thing about it. And I feel like 1018 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: the Walton Goggins and Amy lou Wood storyline. 1019 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 3: Like to me it was. It was also so. 1020 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: Personally gratifying because I was like, I was watching it 1021 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: and I sat there and I was like, you can't 1022 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: save broken people. They have to save themselves. They have 1023 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: to work on themselves. It doesn't matter matter how much 1024 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: you love them. 1025 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 2: The reason I think I will remember Carry Kuon's monologue 1026 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 2: and you will remember that is because that is so 1027 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 2: what you have lived and like what you a lesson 1028 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 2: you have learned in your own life. What do you 1029 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 2: mean like that, I mean broken people? Yes, right, you know, 1030 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 2: like that is a lesson that you have learned the 1031 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: hard way in many ways and you've connected, you know. 1032 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 2: And the Carrie Kuon monolog where she says like she 1033 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 2: has and listen, I do not think that we are 1034 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,959 Speaker 2: as toxic as those three women were ultimately thinking about 1035 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 2: us as that. No, but I did have this moment 1036 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 2: because like we've talked about, let's get raw and real 1037 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 2: again his sisters, when I asked you to be in 1038 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 2: my wedding party, like we are we are dear like 1039 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 2: besties down and we will and I asked you to 1040 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: be in my wedding party because I know you will 1041 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 2: be in my life for the rest of my goddamn life. 1042 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 2: But we're also fucking busy. You live in two different 1043 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 2: cities practically most of the time. You are the busiest 1044 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 2: man in Hollywood. I'm very busy. Like we don't get 1045 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 2: to do these things. And like it's so funny when 1046 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 2: people talk about, like why I haven't been back on 1047 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: the pod, right, they assume as to be, But it's 1048 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 2: honestly because like when we do get to hang out, 1049 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 2: we don't want to do this, but we only hit 1050 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 2: so much time to see each other. We don't want 1051 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 2: to come in and do this when we do it. 1052 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 2: And but I when I asked you to be in 1053 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 2: my wedding party, I said, I know that, Like we 1054 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 2: aren't seeing each other like every week like we used to, 1055 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 2: and we aren't, like you know, able to go on 1056 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 2: like all the trips that we used to go on 1057 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 2: and all these things. But like when I think about 1058 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: the people in my life that matter to me, it's 1059 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 2: not necessarily like maybe the people that come to my 1060 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 2: house every fri it's it's it's you guys. And like 1061 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 2: that monologue really resonated because it really does have meaning. 1062 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 2: And like I think that that is like for me, 1063 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: it's like being in a relationship and like getting older, 1064 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 2: like both of those things combined. Like I really you 1065 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 2: recognize that because you really do have to be intentional 1066 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 2: about maintaining friendships when you are in a relationship, like yeah, 1067 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 2: and and and it's so hard to do because I 1068 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 2: am living and about to marry my best friend, you know, 1069 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 2: and so like I think like a lot of the 1070 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 2: things I used to like need from friendships are being provided. 1071 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 2: But like it's it's a trick. It's a trick though, 1072 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: because like I don't like we've we've also like been 1073 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 2: like we need to hang out with our friends without 1074 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 2: each other, like the you know, like we don't have 1075 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 2: to do everything. 1076 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 3: Does that happened more? And it has happened more? 1077 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like I you know, like we like I 1078 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 2: was just talking to Jared the other day, who shout 1079 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 2: out I'll announce Jared's also in the wedding, But like 1080 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 2: I was like, he was like, you and James should 1081 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 2: come over, and I was like, or I could just 1082 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 2: come yeah, yea, because that might like that might be nice. 1083 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 2: You know. It is interesting. 1084 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: It's like because it's all about like all of a 1085 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: sudden because life goes it does go by quick. Yeah, 1086 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: And then I feel like, what was so great about 1087 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: that episode and the arc that the three of them 1088 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: are going through was they will leave that vacation and 1089 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: they'll probably remember two things, the traumatic shooting that they 1090 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 1: survived and the fact that they were able to have 1091 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: a great last dinner yea yeah, And they won't even 1092 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: remember Valentine. They won't remember the pibitchy little comments. They 1093 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: won't remember that one of them was a little bit 1094 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: more drunk. They'll remember like this piece of it, and 1095 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 1: they'll remember how their relationship like got better and now 1096 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: has this like memorable like trauma bond moment again. And 1097 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: that's when life goes by like that. And then she's saying, like, 1098 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: you look at your choices. It's because it's the people 1099 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: that have been there for a really long time that 1100 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: you can see in different stages of your life. And 1101 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: then you can say, wow, like I have made choices 1102 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: to be this person who I'm sitting here right now, 1103 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: and now I'm sitting with two other people who are 1104 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: also have gone through the same amount of time and 1105 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: the same amount of development, but in a different way, 1106 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: like here you are about to get married. You know 1107 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you have a certain type of 1108 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: career which is like you know, keeps you busy and 1109 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: is in the stratus for all the time, and sometimes 1110 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 1: like you would think like maybe a third person in 1111 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: that would look at both those things and be like, 1112 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm the carry coon, but we all are carrying feeling 1113 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: like the carry coon. 1114 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Michelle, I'm Leslie and your 1115 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 2: Carrie well, I mean Leslie. 1116 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: No, I well I now switched and you spend the 1117 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: most time in Austin. 1118 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. And I smiled, and you would rob 1119 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 2: the closest to independent. He certainly hates the Democrats. Oh yeah, 1120 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 2: I guess that's the headline the Democrats. No, but I 1121 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 2: mean like it's I was. 1122 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: It was actually I can't remember the last time I 1123 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: spontaneously burst out in tears. 1124 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: I actually can. 1125 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: It was when he Wa Kwan was in everything ever 1126 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: all at once, when he was saying you have to 1127 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: be kind, like please be kind, I like spontaneously burst 1128 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: out in tears. But I was watching Kerry couldn't give 1129 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: that monologue, and I just I burst into tears because 1130 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: I was just like, it's true. As you get older, 1131 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: like it's not about like what haven't I don't or 1132 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: what don't I have? It's like very hard to get 1133 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 1: to a point where you're like, you know, the things 1134 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: I've done are enough, Like I've tried, you know, to 1135 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,399 Speaker 1: develop myself. Like it's gone this way in a positive way, 1136 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: this way in a negative way, whatever that it all 1137 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: comes out in the wash anyway when you're still here. 1138 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:22,479 Speaker 3: My mirror this season is thinking, he who is your father? 1139 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 2: At the end? I love yeah, when we got to 1140 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 2: see a little bite of her as a young which 1141 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: is real footnic. I mean. Also like the thing about 1142 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 2: him being the dad though, I was like, I said 1143 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 2: that the minute he said the story that his mom 1144 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 2: told him to Amy Lou, I was like, oh, well 1145 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 2: that guy is going to be your dad's the dad, 1146 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 2: like and they cast him very well. 1147 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: I will say that that part. I was like this 1148 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,919 Speaker 1: week said we did see coming from a mile away, 1149 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: And you know what, I think would have even been 1150 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: a better reveal a monkey with a gun because because 1151 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 1: because here I want monkey with gun. Here's what I 1152 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: was thinking the whole time. How did Walton Goggins's character 1153 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: afford that vacation? What if it was revealed like he's 1154 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 1: been a trust fun baby his entire life, and actually 1155 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,959 Speaker 1: he isn't this badass. He's just like this like sort 1156 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: of spoiled, like straight guy who's like the kind of 1157 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: guy who's like, I'm gonna wear like a funky scarf. 1158 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 2: I've been worried about a lot of the shit that 1159 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 2: I've said on this podcast so far, but this is 1160 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 2: like I don't really care, but like this is why 1161 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 2: he needs a writer's room, because this is one of 1162 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 2: my biggest problems with the storyline is I don't know 1163 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 2: who that man is. 1164 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: I do not know who that we could have gotten 1165 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: to a very funny thing, which is, where the fuck 1166 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: did you think you've got all your money from? 1167 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 2: Like your dad is the owner of this? Put it 1168 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 2: up on the board. Put it up on the board. 1169 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: It needs to be an index car. 1170 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: Just how because literally, how did that couple afford that vacation? 1171 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 2: It's it And that's the thing is like it's not 1172 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 2: super important, but it would have been nice. 1173 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: But you know what, Justification always makes things better. I 1174 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: feel like that is true in writing, Like justifications always 1175 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: make jokes funnier if you can get there, and justification 1176 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: always makes like, if you can strengthen it, I think 1177 00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: it's always better than. 1178 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 2: And that's why I think, like for me too, like 1179 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 2: it's the fact that like the first two seasons were 1180 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 2: what they were, and even the third season was as 1181 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 2: strong as it was, is a miracle that he did 1182 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 2: this by himself, that he has that in it to 1183 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 2: do by himself. Because but I think, like the seams 1184 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 2: that we're now seeing and the disconnect that we're feeling 1185 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 2: with the third season is because like I don't think 1186 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 2: that one man can continue to play with the same 1187 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 2: ideas over and over and over again and create something 1188 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 2: that is going to feel as meaningful as the first. Yes, 1189 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 2: there are limits to Autertia, Yeah, that we need to 1190 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 2: come to. I don't disagree that that because he's not 1191 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 2: reinventing the show every season. 1192 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 3: He's yeah, no, well, I actually kind of like that 1193 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 3: about it. 1194 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 2: Though. 1195 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: I kind of like that the formula, like the formula 1196 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 1: for me, like really works, and I do think that 1197 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: there's been drastically different like things that have been said 1198 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: by both by all three of the seasons. I will 1199 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: say though, just out of principle, there should be a 1200 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: writer's rum on a show like that, that's what we're saying, 1201 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: just out of principle, because it is it is one 1202 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: of the last ways you can like appre this great 1203 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: writers and like you know what I mean, like get 1204 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: people started in the industry and this this has nothing 1205 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: to do with how talented and how brilliant I think 1206 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: he is, because ultimately, let's be real, all the creators 1207 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: and show runners rewrite all these episodes anyway. 1208 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 2: Honestly, that would be a huge win for the entire Yes, 1209 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 2: can I say I hate it from the beginning? Monkey 1210 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 2: has the gun? 1211 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: I advocate, I was a big advocate laughing, I'm not laughing. 1212 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't think it's funny. 1213 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's funny to think about the monkey 1214 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: with the gun at all. 1215 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was going to be. 1216 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 3: It was pretty straightforward, see I. 1217 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,439 Speaker 1: But but for me, it's just like when I saw 1218 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: Amy Lou would unable to run away from the toxic 1219 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: man who was going to get who was gonna it 1220 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,919 Speaker 1: was gonna end badly for her. I was like, I've 1221 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: been her totally, and this is an important story. 1222 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 2: Those are y'all's mirrors for sure. Yes, And you are 1223 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 2: a famous actress who Asian wres who married a wealthy 1224 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 2: that wasn't. 1225 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 3: Really your mirror, that that was your actual mirror. I 1226 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 3: was gonna say my mirror was I am I don't know. 1227 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Is that it's also fun to not have a mirror 1228 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 2: in the seities. Let's see. I am gonna say, I'm 1229 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 2: still thinking about Aubrey and season two and see that. 1230 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 2: But that's not that's not that's not it. That's not 1231 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 2: an answer to the question I I don't I probably 1232 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 2: don't have one for I mean, but but like, but 1233 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 2: that just goes to the show. There's different things being 1234 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 2: reflected in each of the in each of the seasons. 1235 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 2: I think that, yeah, I don't know, her character was fascinating. 1236 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,439 Speaker 1: You know. My I've been pressuring my therapist into watching 1237 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: White Lotus because she's never watched it. I went in 1238 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 1: today and she's like, I'm halfway through season two. I 1239 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: fucking love it. Oh, she was like season one was amazing. 1240 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, it was like, put some respect on season. 1241 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 2: One one's great, it's great. Well, and that can I 1242 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 2: just say. I don't want to beat up Mike went 1243 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 2: too much, because again I love his work. Enlightened is 1244 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 2: one of my favorite shows of all time. He's brilliant. 1245 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 2: We can talk about all this because he's brilliant. Yeah, 1246 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 2: because he's brilliant. But like, there was very little like 1247 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 2: with the staff this season. Yeah, this was the least 1248 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 2: amount of story, of impactful story that we got about 1249 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 2: the staff this Well, I might what was the storyline 1250 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 2: so the manager the Lisa? Can I say anything with Lisa? 1251 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I think the reason why the Lisa thing feels weird 1252 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 1: is because they did not even expect anywhere near. 1253 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 3: A star at her level to want that part. And 1254 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 3: when she wanted that part, I. 1255 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Think part of his hesitance was like, but the character 1256 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: does it is not consequential enough to justify her. 1257 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 3: But then she was so good and really wanted to 1258 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 3: do it, what are they going to do? 1259 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 2: Say no? 1260 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 3: I mean her acting is so srounded great, she. 1261 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Just and ultimately I remember we were all like, and 1262 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: there's gonna be something with Lisa because there. 1263 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 2: Has to be. Why would you cast Beyonce in a 1264 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 2: show right not have her be like a centerpiece of 1265 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 2: the finality? And I think that probably was something that 1266 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 2: was on his mind during casting. 1267 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: It's like, well, should the role be more? I don't 1268 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: want to just make it more and change whole thing 1269 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: because it's her. But if she wants to do it 1270 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: and she's good enough. 1271 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 2: You didn't. Did you find any mirrors in the family? 1272 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 2: Are you a Lachlan at all? I might be, I 1273 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 2: might be a Piper. I might someone that's interesting, someone 1274 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 2: who wants to like individualize, and then realizes that like 1275 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 2: they are not going to go to such lengths to 1276 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 2: like like they have found themselves in the act of 1277 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 2: trying to find themselves in a different way, and then 1278 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 2: they swing back the other direction, like this is not. 1279 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 3: Who you also would rather die than be poor exactly. 1280 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: I loved her storyline as well, and when she was 1281 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: giving that monologue about like she was great by the way, 1282 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 1: great vibes she interviewed. 1283 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 2: She was my interview on Today Show when I co hosted. 1284 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 2: Oh really, such a cute vibe. Yes, she's adorable and 1285 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 2: she's talented and a trained opera singer. Wow. Yeah at 1286 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 2: Sunny Purchase. 1287 01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: Anyway, let's touch on housewives. Oh I want to pitch 1288 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: my Housewives? Yeah, start, we'll start there. We'll start there 1289 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: with the granular. 1290 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 3: Here's the show and this is literally consider this a pitch. 1291 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Bravo. 1292 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: We're now in business, and Kyle goes to Aspen. 1293 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 3: Kyle starts her life over as a lesbian of the Woods, 1294 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 3: Kyle of the Woods, The the the The poster for 1295 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 3: the show is Kyle in her huge chemo sabi hat 1296 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 3: looking at the camera in the back. 1297 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 2: The Woods. 1298 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Kyle starts over as a lover of same sex in 1299 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Aspen where she wants to live. I'm sorry, she bes 1300 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. We start the show over. It's her, It's 1301 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of her friends that come in. It's 1302 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: more like people visit from Beverly Hills to come see her, 1303 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: come in and out, and we see Kyle's new life 1304 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: in Aspen as a queer woman. 1305 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,920 Speaker 2: I will say my only note, my only adjustment if 1306 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm the executive sitting across the table, is I always say, 1307 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 2: we already have a winter landscape, and that is that 1308 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 2: is doing quite well. You know what I would maybe suggest, 1309 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,959 Speaker 2: if you want woods, maybe Pacific Northwest. Say that maybe 1310 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 2: where she wants to live, maybe Seattle. 1311 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,919 Speaker 1: And also I would say the fact that Saltlake City 1312 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: works as a reason to do it. Interesting, how about 1313 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: this Kyle of. 1314 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 2: The Mountains, Kyle of the Woods, Like j T tried 1315 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 2: to be. I like Kyle of the Woods. I like 1316 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 2: Kyle of the Woods. Is this Kyle the Wood sounds 1317 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 2: like a dangerous plant you shouldn't eat? Right, Oh honey, 1318 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 2: that's Kyle of the Woods. Kyle of the Wood. Don't 1319 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 2: touch that, Kyle out of your mouth? Is this modeled 1320 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 2: because I'm not watching the Denise Show? Is this kind 1321 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 2: of like the Denise Show? I like the show was. 1322 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: The way that they live their life is so crazy? 1323 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess it is. I mean, I maybe 1324 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be an ongoing thing. I just 1325 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 1: think maybe like eight episodes of Kyle living in Aspen, 1326 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: like exploring this new part of her personality. Because I 1327 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: don't think this is my kind of hot take about 1328 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. It's not there yet for a reboot, but 1329 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't think we're far away, right, I don't think 1330 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 1: we're far away at all. 1331 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 2: It's getting the self production on Beverly Hills, I think 1332 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 2: is the worst of any of the franchises. 1333 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're also afraid to say or do anything. 1334 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's so like, I really like talk 1335 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 2: about something that didn't coalesce in anything, Like I'm so 1336 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 2: sorry Mike Waite. I meant to say that take that 1337 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 2: note away from White loas'll apply it to Beverly. Yeah, 1338 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 2: because by the end of that reunion, I was exhausted 1339 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 2: and I wanted to walk out like Garcala, so like. 1340 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: Sudden going to Garcel's room and Garcela not being there 1341 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 1: and just be like she's gone, and like like that 1342 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: being the way that their friendship ended. Like well, I 1343 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: don't know, how do you guys feel about the Garcela 1344 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: of at all. 1345 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 2: I didn't watch this, I didn't watch the part. I'm 1346 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 2: only I will say I'm only halfway through the third part, 1347 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 2: and again didn't feel urgent to finish in the same 1348 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 2: way that some of these other shows are. Right now, 1349 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 2: I think that. And I just actually presented an award 1350 01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 2: with Garcel met her in real life so warm. So 1351 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 2: she's been on the show. She's a star star. I 1352 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,440 Speaker 2: don't think she has it in her to be a housewive. 1353 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't think she ever liked it. I don't think 1354 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 2: because she when the when the guns were pointed in 1355 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 2: her direction, handle it. It's not I don't even think 1356 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 2: that she couldn't handle it. It's she didn't want to 1357 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 2: do it. Like she didn't, like she doesn't want to 1358 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 2: do that. 1359 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: She went a really long time, I guess, five seasons 1360 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 1: without ever being the person in the hot seat. 1361 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 2: And like kind of far down on the couch always. 1362 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 2: And also not for nothing, but for something that I knew. 1363 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 1: When she was saying in the beginning of the season 1364 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: that she was positing the theory that the Dury the 1365 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Dey robbery was staged. I'm like, you're gonna have to 1366 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 1: deal with say stand by that you will have to 1367 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: stand by, and I mean she did, but she hated 1368 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 1: that they had a problem with it, and it's like, well, 1369 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 1: of course they're going to have a problem with it, 1370 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 1: like and then and then you can't walk your way 1371 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,600 Speaker 1: out of the insinuation you're making. 1372 01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 2: You're very baldly making the insinuation, and lots of people did, 1373 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 2: and so like Santando's down, like you know, I but 1374 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 2: like I just don't know that she like she thinks 1375 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 2: in that way she has she and clearly doesn't need 1376 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 2: it in the same way. And that's not the difference. 1377 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 2: That's the difference is that I think like she was 1378 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 2: working really hard at the beginning, maybe because like it 1379 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 2: did kind of reignite a lot of things for her, 1380 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 2: but all those other women. I mean, the reason de 1381 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 2: read is is showing up right now, and then her 1382 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,840 Speaker 2: lover hate is because she needs the check. And Garcella, 1383 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 2: one thing you can say about her right now is 1384 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 2: she's leaving not needing the check. She is making lifetime movies. 1385 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 2: Good for fucking her, you know, like she doesn't need it. 1386 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 2: And I think, like you could feel that, and I 1387 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 2: want them hungry and desperate and needing it, right. I mean, 1388 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 2: sutten unwatchable Kyle. 1389 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 3: I as you know my feelings on Kyle Erica. 1390 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 2: He'll make over the fact that Erica came for garcel 1391 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 2: for not being interesting. In Erica's one storyline this season 1392 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 2: was redoing her fucking living room. I'm sorry. 1393 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: I liked bos. I mean I thought that was like 1394 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 1: definitely livened things up. 1395 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, no, she's she's uh gonna be a 1396 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 2: major player for a while. You know, I don't know, 1397 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 2: it just it just felt icky, felt ikey, I don't 1398 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 2: believe that they're friends. 1399 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 3: And the and the and the Kathy sort of runaway moment. 1400 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 2: I was like, that is we've really let we've Unfortunately, 1401 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 2: I think we've fed the goose too much. Yeah, with Kathy, 1402 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 2: the future of the entire Housewives empire lies in one 1403 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 2: woman and one woman alone, and that woman's name is 1404 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 2: Stacy Rush. But still, I can we go back? Can 1405 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 2: we go back for a second. I actually believe that 1406 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 2: the relationship was not real, But I do believe that 1407 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,799 Speaker 2: what she said to him was this will be really 1408 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,720 Speaker 2: good for you your business, and then he extrapolated from 1409 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,639 Speaker 2: there that she was paying him to be on the show. 1410 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 3: You're gonna trust Tim over her. 1411 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 2: He's clearly we've seen him on the show like it 1412 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 2: is like it is. To take his word for anything 1413 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 2: is actually quite exactly. I believe Stacy more than t J. 1414 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 2: I believe that she's not telling the full story, but 1415 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 2: that's okay. 1416 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: She's like with I think that one has some like 1417 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 1: I love her. He's got love blinders on. 1418 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 2: I got tip blinders on. She's got the most amazing Famously, 1419 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 2: her boobs are perfect. When you were saying the future 1420 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 2: of the franchise, I really thought you were going to 1421 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 2: say one word and one word alone, and that is Smia. 1422 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you haven't started. I haven't started really good. 1423 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,840 Speaker 3: So Atlanta has been because so Kenya. 1424 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 2: Moore just exited herself. 1425 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been really I think it's been a 1426 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 1: really really compelling. 1427 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,559 Speaker 2: Really works and the thing is great on the show, 1428 01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 2: And I worry. I don't want to see a between 1429 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 2: her and she. Yeah, and I fear that it's like 1430 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 2: it's definitely happening. But like Mia starts the season like 1431 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 2: she is the center. She's in the center with a 1432 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,559 Speaker 2: star and I didn't know she had And what I 1433 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,599 Speaker 2: have since learned is that they have been that Bravo 1434 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 2: has known all along what that she has got the 1435 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 2: juice in that peach, but her husband wouldn't let her 1436 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:28,439 Speaker 2: be more until now because I think he did not 1437 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 2: understand how powerful the show was until now. 1438 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,799 Speaker 1: I honestly, it really is surprising because the first episode, 1439 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 1: the first scenes of the first episode are. 1440 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 2: All Shamia's amazing home, like. 1441 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 1: She's multi talented, she's got like this very full family, 1442 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 1: this big, full life like and it's just she's obviously 1443 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: great on camera. 1444 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,679 Speaker 2: She gets it's like the way that they started fights 1445 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 2: but ended of them at the right und. 1446 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: She's beautiful, she got fashion, very connected to everyone already. 1447 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 1: It's like so surprising that they tried this with Marlowe 1448 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 1: before Shmiah, but I guess yeah, Shamia had like an extenuating. 1449 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:12,559 Speaker 2: Circum Yeah, because yeah, it's just she's Yeah, I love it. 1450 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 2: I Porch's doing great, love Angela, love Kelly. Yeah, I 1451 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 2: like Kelly a lot. And and again, like the thing 1452 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 2: is is that, like ken you really it's so frustrating 1453 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 2: because Britt is not for the show. You know, I 1454 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 2: don't know, I can't. I agree with you. The thing 1455 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 2: is is like the threatening her with the gun is 1456 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 2: and like if we didn't if we didn't know what 1457 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 2: ken if we didn't know what was coming with Kenya, 1458 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 2: the entire audience would have been like, would have been 1459 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 2: behind Kenya. But then Kenya takes it to such an 1460 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 2: extreme level that is unforgivable. 1461 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you, you just can't get past it. 1462 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 1: But also it's like it's like the look in her 1463 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 1: eyes when she was doing it, I was like, oh no, 1464 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,840 Speaker 1: you gotta deal with stuff like this is this is 1465 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: so many other dark thing and can. 1466 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 2: I say too, like the big difference between a lot 1467 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 2: of what what Kenya did and say, like for instance, 1468 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 2: Porsche physically assaulting Kenya at the reunion and still coming here, 1469 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 2: I guess still being on the show. Is that what 1470 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,599 Speaker 2: with Porsche? That was like a heat of the moment, 1471 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 2: in the moment thing that she immediate immediate remorse. Yeah, 1472 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,479 Speaker 2: it was not premeditating, Kenya. The thing was fully she 1473 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 2: had to print, she had to go to fucking Kinko's. Yeah, 1474 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 2: and print revenge porn. 1475 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:25,719 Speaker 3: She went out of her way. 1476 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 1: Okay, so we should also say it is not revenge 1477 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 1: porn because it was. 1478 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 2: Not legally not legally speaking, but we should be porn 1479 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 2: that was being used for shame and revenge. But I 1480 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 2: want to protect us legally. Yeah. Yeah, I'm Sunny Houston. Yeah, 1481 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 2: and legal. 1482 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,719 Speaker 3: Kenya would see you lost coat. 1483 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 2: I don't put anything past anyone. Yeah, you're right, it's 1484 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,640 Speaker 2: true because. 1485 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 3: You put do you put things past people? 1486 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 4: No? 1487 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,200 Speaker 3: Never, You've never been one to suffer fools. I don't 1488 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:55,879 Speaker 3: put anything past y'all. 1489 01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 1: That's your housewives tackling. I don't put anything past anyone except. 1490 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 4: This. 1491 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 2: This is mine. This is mine. I don't suffer fools, 1492 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 2: but I do suffer joint pain. Not suffer from suffer 1493 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 2: joint pain. Here's mine. 1494 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm back on the East Coast and I'm doing the 1495 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,599 Speaker 1: most Oh that's actually rhyme. 1496 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:29,360 Speaker 2: Okay, ind go ahead. I don't know because I have 1497 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,360 Speaker 2: my like, my go to one, but I don't want 1498 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,559 Speaker 2: to do that one. I do want to do a 1499 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 2: new one. And it's like, I'm from Chicago, so you know, 1500 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 2: I know how to ride the brown line, you. 1501 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 1: Know, Oh my god, brown line as a euphemism for gays, 1502 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 1: like riding the brown line is time. 1503 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 2: About I'm a powerful woman in this scenario. So you 1504 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 2: don't know what it means. 1505 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: Right, It means you're taking it means you're a powerful 1506 01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 1: woman taking it in the butt. 1507 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 2: But what if never mind, Yeah, we'll leave it at 1508 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 2: brown line. Writing the brown line can mean topping. It 1509 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 2: is verse vocabulary. Yeah, sure, but one would know. 1510 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,760 Speaker 1: You know, he's coming out as all sorts of things. Bisexual. No, 1511 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying this bisexual. I'm kinsy five, maybe four point five. 1512 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,320 Speaker 1: But Matt is kind of twisting them into thinking that 1513 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm a top, which I never have identified. 1514 01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 3: I think it will be fabulous for you to try it. 1515 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,759 Speaker 2: You've topped, I've topped. Yeah, I just don't. I don't 1516 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 2: wear that as an identity in a way that I 1517 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:36,760 Speaker 2: think it's meaningful. Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean, 1518 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,600 Speaker 2: he doesn't watch gay porn and see a mirror of 1519 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 2: himself in the top. No, it's always the mottom. Honestly, 1520 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 2: although I'm back in my I'm back back in the 1521 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 2: game in the case. By the way, getting subscribers to 1522 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,879 Speaker 2: It's an iconic Angel Search for the Next l woods 1523 01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,040 Speaker 2: really still I get I get notifications every now and 1524 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,639 Speaker 2: then it is still available on patreoon? 1525 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,679 Speaker 3: Is it actually still available on Patrio? 1526 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 2: Search for the Next l was like I forgot until 1527 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,519 Speaker 2: I just was listening to the other day that Patty 1528 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 2: Harrison herself wrote the theme Thank God for COVID. There's 1529 01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 2: the God for COVID that Patty to do and we 1530 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,520 Speaker 2: had nothing to do better than to make this podcast. 1531 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 2: And Patty was free enough and the only time she'll 1532 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,960 Speaker 2: ever be free again to write the theme song for 1533 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:28,599 Speaker 2: our podcast. 1534 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 1: Wait, so, if we're still getting subscribers to that made 1535 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:37,599 Speaker 1: you made it that the scandal would be that we've 1536 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,479 Speaker 1: accrued like thousands of dollars that we step is going 1537 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: to charity. 1538 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 2: It's now free. Yeah. 1539 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 3: Still on the Great podcast Segments, A cousin of. 1540 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 2: The Week was good. 1541 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 3: Okay, let's do Ahusband of the Week he still references 1542 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:49,799 Speaker 3: in general. 1543 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Cousin of the Week was It was a segment on 1544 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,000 Speaker 1: Matt and Joel and Joel on the Search of the 1545 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,839 Speaker 1: Next album was where we said which of the girls 1546 01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 1: was cousin of the week, who was giving the most energy? 1547 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I have one, who's your cousin of the Again, this 1548 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 1: is all going to be dated, but my cousin of 1549 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 1: the week is congratulations on your opening sister, Hailey stein Yeah, yeah, 1550 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 1: she's because of the week, because of that flame dress. Yeah, 1551 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:17,759 Speaker 1: and we won't say why. Yeah, but that dress is cousin. 1552 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 1: This is a Hailey Steinfeld stand positive queen. I believe 1553 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 1: she's the queen of pop. I do need her to 1554 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 1: release more music. 1555 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 2: Capital lists I will jam. 1556 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,600 Speaker 1: First of all, don't even get me started on he 1557 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Wants to Go? Which is that song? But also but 1558 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,519 Speaker 1: there's what's the uh hell Knows? 1559 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:38,720 Speaker 3: And headphones y. 1560 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 2: I love that where she's at the party slush shaming people. 1561 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 2: I love that. Oh she is not for the Bumblebee movie, 1562 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 2: the Transformer spin off Bumblebee called which is actually excellent. 1563 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 2: Really I need Yeah, it's like Bumblebee bumble Bee remember 1564 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 2: eighteen excellent? Watch it on a plane and you'll get 1565 01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,599 Speaker 2: your life love it. Okay, it's small, it's a small 1566 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 2: it's a character piece. And Haley carries always does all right. Yeah, 1567 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 2: my cousin of the week is Meghan Fay Hate and Drop. 1568 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 2: She because now my cousins have kids and they love 1569 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,800 Speaker 2: their kids so much. And Meghan fay Hee and Drop 1570 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,800 Speaker 2: was so determined to save her child. And if you 1571 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,160 Speaker 2: haven't seen Drop, it's really really good. You know you 1572 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,680 Speaker 2: would love it. Do you want to know why? It's 1573 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,599 Speaker 2: because it's just like Red Eye? Oh that is Does 1574 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 2: someone else said that to me today? 1575 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun. Jeffrey's self is great in it. 1576 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: Meghan's amazing, like she should be movie star down. 1577 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 2: Meghan being spiritually linked to Rachel McAdams feels so correct. 1578 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 1: Yes, And at the time Rachel McAdams was my cousin 1579 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 1: of the week. Here's a go, and so I would 1580 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 1: say cousin of the week. And also because I do 1581 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,720 Speaker 1: feel we could play cousins. My cousin of the week 1582 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,680 Speaker 1: is Megan fay Hate and Drop. Who's your cousin of 1583 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 1: the week. 1584 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 2: My cousin of the week is I did not really 1585 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,040 Speaker 2: see a moment of this, but it just just I 1586 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 2: felt the cousin energy was Addison Ray showing up at 1587 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 2: the Argust at Coachella. I was like, I love that 1588 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,759 Speaker 2: for her. Yeah, she's always going to be a cousin 1589 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, she gives cousin in that. Like I'm 1590 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 2: always like, she's got stuff going on. I don't know 1591 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 2: about it exactly. You know her of course, you know 1592 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 2: when I see the updates scroll on by, But like, 1593 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:19,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what she's going I don't know what 1594 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,439 Speaker 2: she's going on. My cousin Addison is doing things what 1595 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,640 Speaker 2: they are I couldn't tell you, Oh, she shot a 1596 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 2: music video in Paris. But if you know exactly what 1597 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,320 Speaker 2: your cousins are doing right now, grow I don't know 1598 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 2: what they're doing. But I will say, pep who are 1599 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 2: close to their cousins, that could be and I don't 1600 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 2: think so, honey for me. Oh frankly, you know who. 1601 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 1: Else kind of was giving cousin when she came out 1602 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,560 Speaker 1: weight Weekend one by the Way, the Charlie set a 1603 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,800 Speaker 1: Weekend one of Coachella was Billy, Troy and Lord All 1604 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,639 Speaker 1: came out, which was only bested by Megan The Stallion set, 1605 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 1: which saw Victoria Mone Queen Latifa and Sierra. 1606 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 3: They did goodies, good luck looking at that. 1607 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:10,680 Speaker 2: She finally stage that she spoke of. But Lord was 1608 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 2: kind of given cousin energy. Oh that's good. 1609 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 1: Lord kind of gives cousin And you're one of Lord's 1610 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 1: Vegas fans. 1611 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 2: I will say that, like, especially she announced her new single. 1612 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,040 Speaker 2: I saw that. I saw that so excited it would 1613 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,320 Speaker 2: probably be out by the time it's called. What was that? Yeah, 1614 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,280 Speaker 2: I can't know that way. Oh my god, you know, 1615 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 2: I love that sentence. 1616 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 1: I get text from Lord. Look, Lord, because I signed 1617 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: up for the mailing list. I love looking down on 1618 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,240 Speaker 1: my phone and saying that, Lord, Lord texted you my 1619 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 1: new song. 1620 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 3: What was that? Out soon? 1621 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:47,680 Speaker 1: Wendy William, Oh my god, look, and there's single art. 1622 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 2: She gave cousin energy and that she was finally for 1623 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 2: the first time in a while, she was the elder 1624 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 2: cousin in that in that lineup of people. Yes, she 1625 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 2: was the elder. He was the elder cousin, and like, 1626 01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,719 Speaker 2: you know, it's like that thing where it's like, yeah, 1627 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 2: it's just like because she for so long was the 1628 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 2: youngest in the entire family, and now that we're a 1629 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,920 Speaker 2: little bit older, We're like, welcome, welcome, Yeah, welcome in. Okay. 1630 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 1: Well, by the way, I just pre saved what was 1631 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,840 Speaker 1: that on Spotify? It's probably out by now. Let me 1632 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 1: put this out. But I'm really excited. I need we 1633 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 1: need a powerful Lord era, absolutely, and I was gonna 1634 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,599 Speaker 1: say we have needed a huge song and pop that 1635 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 1: ends with the word that not. 1636 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 3: I still think about the impact of why did you 1637 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 3: do that? 1638 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,760 Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about it. The one of the 1639 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:39,880 Speaker 1: titles of Joel's episodes, ye to me. How have our 1640 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,000 Speaker 1: thoughts on Stars Born sort of developed since that episode? 1641 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,240 Speaker 2: Hmmm? I think the movie's even better. It's even better. 1642 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say that. After Gaga hosted, I was like, 1643 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,760 Speaker 2: I need to fucking dig into this bitch once again. Yeah, 1644 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,439 Speaker 2: so good, And I just the first twenty minutes of 1645 01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 2: that fucking movie. The whole movie is take the Garden 1646 01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 2: of It took me. It took me to the Garden beat. 1647 01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 2: And I mean, she's so damn good, so good. Like 1648 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:06,960 Speaker 2: I forgot about the moment where they're at the bar 1649 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,679 Speaker 2: at the beginning. She was like, I'm here with Jackson Mane, 1650 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 2: like I don't know what's going on, Like like the 1651 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 2: way she right of like, I don't even know what's 1652 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 2: going on right now. I'm like, that's so sweet. We 1653 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:21,240 Speaker 2: love Gaga, Love Gaga. Okay, what about you Stars Warn't 1654 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,680 Speaker 2: you know? I haven't revisited. I just talked about it 1655 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 2: recently though, because I was talking about how she's so 1656 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,639 Speaker 2: wasted in Joker too, Like why cast her in that role? 1657 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,719 Speaker 2: And why do why do bad singing? 1658 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:33,920 Speaker 1: Right? 1659 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,200 Speaker 2: Why why cast lady to be a bad singer? Like 1660 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't correct, Like it seems like such a waste. 1661 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 2: Like Gaga is a as a singular entity, will forever 1662 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 2: be iconic as a musician, as a pop star, as 1663 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 2: a as a as a person of the culture, and 1664 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:51,080 Speaker 2: as an actress. But I do think after seeing The Penguin, 1665 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:57,519 Speaker 2: you could selet Christine Chris Kristin Mili into any role 1666 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:02,200 Speaker 2: that Gaga has ever done. It would be, oh my 1667 01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:09,080 Speaker 2: you are except for Starsborn, except for Starsbourn, except of course. 1668 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,920 Speaker 2: But wow, I know she was. I know you're close 1669 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:13,920 Speaker 2: personal friends now. 1670 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 1: No, no, no, but you just want Kristin Mili to 1671 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,280 Speaker 1: work more. We all want that. I just think she 1672 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 1: is so brilliant. You guys just not wat I watched Okay, well, 1673 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 1: she's amazing. But I mean I came on here and said, 1674 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:27,959 Speaker 1: sang the praises. 1675 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,479 Speaker 2: That is the way you in this world where we 1676 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 2: cannot sell anything that is not connected to an existing 1677 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 2: I p like, that's the way you do it is 1678 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 2: you sneak in like women's that the Penguin is not 1679 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 2: a story about the penguin. It is about women stories. 1680 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:48,000 Speaker 2: Women's stories matter. They wrapped up women's stories in a 1681 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 2: fucking Penguin piece of cheap to these boys that didn't 1682 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,759 Speaker 2: know what was about to hit. And Colin was amazing 1683 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,320 Speaker 2: and Colin and yes, no, and that's not to discount 1684 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,960 Speaker 2: colins performance, it is incredible as well. But like I 1685 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,960 Speaker 2: was so impressed with that show because you could have 1686 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,320 Speaker 2: never you could not know what Batman is and enjoyed 1687 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,160 Speaker 2: as And in fact, I had to convince many people 1688 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 2: who were like, I don't want to watch a Batman show, 1689 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 2: and it's not a Batman shows, it's a show about women. Yeah. 1690 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,719 Speaker 2: But can I say Gaga would have been great in Penguin? 1691 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,880 Speaker 2: She would have she would have No, No, it's true, 1692 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,840 Speaker 2: I maybe not better is that? Maybe that's not the 1693 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 2: verbiage I want to say, But like I do think 1694 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:40,679 Speaker 2: that like you're seated for either of them. Of Christian Yes, 1695 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,120 Speaker 2: that's I think what I mean I wanted. I want 1696 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:57,920 Speaker 2: House of Gucci too, with Lady. 1697 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 1: Like I can't get enough of I can't get enough 1698 01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 1: of House you know, you know best of the answer 1699 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:01,200 Speaker 1: House of Gucci. 1700 01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 2: Salmahayak. 1701 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,639 Speaker 3: Salahi will do the goofiest ship. 1702 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:05,800 Speaker 2: She will. 1703 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 1: She is down to clown like I'm ready to do. 1704 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. 1705 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 2: This is I don't think so mony. This is where 1706 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,080 Speaker 2: we take one minute to go off on something in culture. 1707 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,680 Speaker 2: Matt has something. He is ready and rearing to go. 1708 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,160 Speaker 2: This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many time starts. 1709 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 1: Now, I don't think so honey. Not enough utilization of 1710 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 1: the icon Salma Hayak in media across television, film. 1711 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:29,839 Speaker 2: I would love to hear the album. 1712 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,719 Speaker 1: We need salamahaiks Pino's debut album, by the way, House 1713 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,639 Speaker 1: of Gucci. We needed the lesbian scene with Lady Gaga 1714 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 1: and Salamahayak. A'm saying and now, in the year of 1715 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 1: War twenty twenty five, we needed that. I don't think 1716 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 1: so honey that we didn't get it and they shot 1717 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,280 Speaker 1: it where's the deleted scenes? Bring back DVDs? That's another topic. Yeah, 1718 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The Marvel movie they tried 1719 01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,160 Speaker 1: to do with all of them, and they kill Samahayaka 1720 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,600 Speaker 1: right away. 1721 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 2: Eternals, No, I guess not. 1722 01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,240 Speaker 3: I guess very very temporary. 1723 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,520 Speaker 1: That set of eternal And I don't think so, honey, 1724 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,840 Speaker 1: that we talk about Salama Hyak in this casual way 1725 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 1: you should be bowing down to Salma Hyak has impact 1726 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,360 Speaker 1: that we're not even understanding or recognizing, and we need 1727 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:14,840 Speaker 1: to change that. 1728 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 2: I don't think so hard. And that's one minute, just 1729 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 2: a little like astisk to you. I don't think so, honey. 1730 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,000 Speaker 2: Is that like? I don't think so, honey. Marvel changing 1731 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,400 Speaker 2: the line reading in the original trailer for the Eternals, 1732 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,400 Speaker 2: you can clearly hear Samahayak say and we've tired it. 1733 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 2: I think we've talked about this on the pod before 1734 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:36,000 Speaker 2: Theos with you know, and she says it like that, 1735 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,320 Speaker 2: and then we go and watch the film. We sit 1736 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 2: down for the film. Me and my life partner go 1737 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,479 Speaker 2: down and sit for this film, excited to hear the line, 1738 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,960 Speaker 2: and they changed it. They changed it to thanos. They 1739 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 2: made her go back. They made her go back into 1740 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,720 Speaker 2: the ad R booth and say, Thanos, I've got some 1741 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 2: I've got it. I don't think so honey, let's go this. 1742 01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 2: This is I was gonna do it, I think, But 1743 01:25:59,040 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, I got nothing. 1744 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,439 Speaker 3: This is Bowen yangs. I don't think Sowanny his time 1745 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 3: starts now. 1746 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 2: I don't think so many eightyr and this is coming 1747 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,719 Speaker 2: from an eightyr legend. I slay the ADR booth because 1748 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,640 Speaker 2: guess what I'm doing. I'm matching tone, I'm matching acoustics, 1749 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:18,320 Speaker 2: I'm matching lip flaps. But sometimes it doesn't need to happen. 1750 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes we stumble on our words and sometimes the audience 1751 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,679 Speaker 2: doesn't have to understand us. Sometimes you can just cut around. 1752 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,200 Speaker 2: You lose the whole damn line EIGHTR. Sometimes I don't 1753 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,480 Speaker 2: mind it, but sometimes they count you in and they 1754 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 2: sink it in wrong. Sometimes it's just sometimes it's humiliating. 1755 01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,559 Speaker 2: You see, I don't want to see my fuck ups 1756 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:42,000 Speaker 2: up close. And maybe it's okay to sit with that. 1757 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 2: Maybe it's okay to not go back in the booth because. 1758 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:50,680 Speaker 1: You know what, I like Sandra Bullock Rumbull with five seconds. 1759 01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna voiceover in general, and ADR is my 1760 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,559 Speaker 1: one safe space. But now I'm ready to let that 1761 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:56,840 Speaker 1: go because I don't think it's worth it. 1762 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:57,599 Speaker 2: And that's one minute. 1763 01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 1: I also, I've never notice it exactly every single time, 1764 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 1: and I I'll go into do ADR and I'll be like, 1765 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 1: I'll see what the issue is and I'll be like, 1766 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,840 Speaker 1: so I think it's better to do obvious ADR over this. 1767 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:22,400 Speaker 1: It's something about the post process that I don't understand. 1768 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,880 Speaker 2: And when eight R is obviously it drives me. Sometimes 1769 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,879 Speaker 2: it's necessarily you get moments like Dans. 1770 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,280 Speaker 1: You get, first of all, who's to say it's not 1771 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 1: actually pronounced yeah, a different gaalxy American that they did 1772 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,439 Speaker 1: that well, it is like I think that they saw 1773 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 1: because there was like a little bit of it was 1774 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,600 Speaker 1: a little viral for that reason, and I think that 1775 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,680 Speaker 1: they were like, this is a serious film, Okay, that 1776 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. First of all, here's what here's my question 1777 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,120 Speaker 1: do we think And this is my question to you 1778 01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:59,719 Speaker 1: someone who's seen Eternals. Was her performance in the moment 1779 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,400 Speaker 1: where she said tanos like so stunning that they felt 1780 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,479 Speaker 1: like they had to use the tono's take, And maybe 1781 01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,559 Speaker 1: she said Danos eight other times, but they just didn't 1782 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:08,639 Speaker 1: like those takes. 1783 01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, gives a brilliant I mean comedic. I 1784 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,439 Speaker 2: think is Sama is like independently wealthy in a way 1785 01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,680 Speaker 2: that like she the reason we don't see Salma is 1786 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 2: because Salma does not want to be seen, doesn't need 1787 01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,400 Speaker 2: to need to work. Yeah, yeah, she She picks and 1788 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 2: chooses the weirdest things, like that Black Mirror episode she did. Oh, 1789 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 2: I love that. It's so incredible. It's so incredible, But 1790 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 2: like you, I'm sitting there watching it and I'm like, 1791 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,880 Speaker 2: how did they get her? How do they get her? 1792 01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,240 Speaker 2: I think it's an opposite thing. I don't think people 1793 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,200 Speaker 2: go to her enough. 1794 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:42,080 Speaker 1: And people just assume that she's comfortable. Yeah, I think people. 1795 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,360 Speaker 1: I think people should roll the dice more on Salma. 1796 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,719 Speaker 1: I think filmmakers need to shoot their shot with Salma more. 1797 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 2: She is, like she's so willing to do big like 1798 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,439 Speaker 2: big take, big comedic swings, big character choices like lastar 1799 01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:02,640 Speaker 2: nominated actress. Yeah forget incredible, incredible, thirty rock legendary, like 1800 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,439 Speaker 2: one of the best of all time guest stars, reoccurring 1801 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 2: guest stars on that show. Huh. And she was one 1802 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 2: of the best press and almost I would say all 1803 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:18,519 Speaker 2: of his girlfriends stuntcasted girlfriends on that show. Falco. There 1804 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 2: was another one. 1805 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:19,200 Speaker 4: There was. 1806 01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:29,880 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Banks Yeah, and then Lachlan's mom Emily right, yes, yes, yes, bones, 1807 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:34,800 Speaker 2: Avian Bones, yes yes bones. I just want to say, 1808 01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,680 Speaker 2: I know this is cheating, but like I have been 1809 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,400 Speaker 2: here in a while. The other two I didn't think 1810 01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,600 Speaker 2: so honeys that were going to do other than one 1811 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 2: is a I don't think so many people who text 1812 01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 2: their email address or phone number in this not in 1813 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,920 Speaker 2: a separate text to make it easily copy and pastes. 1814 01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,840 Speaker 2: That is texting etiquette. One O one. As far as 1815 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,080 Speaker 2: i'm do not send me your email addressor phone number 1816 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,160 Speaker 2: in the body of a large block of texts so 1817 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,680 Speaker 2: that I cannot get to it and I have to 1818 01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 2: do my instagram dms. Instagram ms are especially are hard, 1819 01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,920 Speaker 2: you know, and it's just like I I cannot stand it. 1820 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:12,400 Speaker 2: I was like, now I have to I have to 1821 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,800 Speaker 2: do this manual. You've changed my behavior, Thank you, thank you. 1822 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:17,800 Speaker 2: And the other one was people who say, wow, that 1823 01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,200 Speaker 2: really made me laugh the group chat, because you are 1824 01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:24,799 Speaker 2: upending the entire ecosystem of haha, l o l ha. 1825 01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,719 Speaker 2: You've now you've now downgraded. No, now it's an impact. 1826 01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,880 Speaker 2: You've really pulled the curtain. And I'm seeing like, oh 1827 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 2: with that that pithy thing that I said, that got 1828 01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,920 Speaker 2: four haha reacts on the chain. How do you feel 1829 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 2: about this? 1830 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,720 Speaker 3: How do you feel about these two words? Actual law? 1831 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,799 Speaker 2: You've broken this the illusion? I say, actual law. It's 1832 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:51,400 Speaker 2: and the thing is, what does law mean? What does 1833 01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 2: lam does mean? Should this episode be called actual law? 1834 01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:56,160 Speaker 3: What? 1835 01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:56,080 Speaker 4: What? 1836 01:30:56,160 --> 01:31:03,120 Speaker 2: What? What about this? I'm laughing? I love, I love, 1837 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 2: I'm laughing. I'm laughing. It's like all of it though, 1838 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,680 Speaker 2: it's just sort of like, oh, that took me out? 1839 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:13,240 Speaker 2: Did it take you out? Did it really? That took 1840 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:17,360 Speaker 2: me out? I'm laughing? Is general use, so many use 1841 01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:21,120 Speaker 2: cases for it. If you're actually lolling, say it applies 1842 01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:25,120 Speaker 2: if you're just lolling, you know, for for etiquette purposes. Great, 1843 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm laughing is the way I'm laughing. You, I promise 1844 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,559 Speaker 2: you I really am. Like if I say I'm laughing, 1845 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,120 Speaker 2: I promise you I really am. Haha emoji or haha 1846 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,799 Speaker 2: whatever reaction thing. I can't promise that I'm haha. 1847 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,960 Speaker 1: I can promise that I I can wrap that. 1848 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:44,000 Speaker 2: I did think it's fun. Yeah, it's an intellectual exercise. 1849 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 2: The haha react. 1850 01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,519 Speaker 3: Yeah that made me laugh. I don't like I'm laughing. 1851 01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:51,080 Speaker 2: I'm laughing. Yeah, Wow, that really made me laugh. Fuck 1852 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,439 Speaker 2: you Yeah. And I of course I have actual law. 1853 01:31:55,160 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 2: I have friends who do real grin RG. No, I'm 1854 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,080 Speaker 2: so sorry they're fans friends anymore. 1855 01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:11,759 Speaker 3: They're God what about Ball, Well, it's still it's like going. 1856 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,000 Speaker 2: It's the cycles are moving too fast, Like we had 1857 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,559 Speaker 2: Chucky for just a brief moment and now he was. 1858 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:22,480 Speaker 1: Never Hubs is apparently the new one Hubs Hubs. 1859 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,000 Speaker 2: It's it's it's how you refer how Jen Alpha is 1860 01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:29,680 Speaker 2: referring apparently to people that they have crushes on, and 1861 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,200 Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. I believe it's it's yeah, 1862 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:37,479 Speaker 2: it is associated with that word. But I this is 1863 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,240 Speaker 2: this is direct intel from Maya Rudolf about her fourteen 1864 01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:43,160 Speaker 2: year old I see so like it could just be 1865 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,439 Speaker 2: whatever in l A. I haven't done the research or 1866 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:53,599 Speaker 2: you know, I haven't asked Edgeball. I really are people 1867 01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:54,759 Speaker 2: are people? 1868 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,920 Speaker 1: He does I'm doing it. Wow, I just burst out. 1869 01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,599 Speaker 1: I just burst out laughing. Well, I mean, it's. 1870 01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,080 Speaker 2: The same sort of over the top like nonsense as 1871 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:09,800 Speaker 2: rolling on the floor. Sorry, get off the floor, off 1872 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:14,920 Speaker 2: off the floor, rolling around filthy. Okay, now I'm ready 1873 01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,320 Speaker 2: to Okay, all right. 1874 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:21,000 Speaker 1: So after two I don't think so honeys here's Joel's 1875 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,240 Speaker 1: real I don't think so honey. This is Joe Kimbushers. 1876 01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. As times us now, I 1877 01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,760 Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Singing competition shows. I'm talking about you, 1878 01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,600 Speaker 1: American Idol. Guess what, American Idol. You did it on 1879 01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,759 Speaker 1: the first try. You found her. 1880 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,920 Speaker 2: Okay, hang it up. We don't need you anymore. We 1881 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,880 Speaker 2: do not need the voice, We do not need X factor, 1882 01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 2: We do not need America's got talent, two fine singers 1883 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 2: for us anymore, because guess what, there is no monoculture. 1884 01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,960 Speaker 2: There is no monoculture, and your gig, your little playbook, 1885 01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,759 Speaker 2: only works if everybody's watching, and no one is watching anymore, 1886 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,960 Speaker 2: not all of America. Okay, there are two many questionions. 1887 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:59,639 Speaker 2: These are professional karaoke competition shows with a cash prize 1888 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,320 Speaker 2: at the end, and that's okay, that's okay. Sell them 1889 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,920 Speaker 2: on that, promise them a career. Do not promise them 1890 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 2: that the stars, because many of them will not be stars. 1891 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,799 Speaker 2: They will end up as the third replacement on Broadway 1892 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,880 Speaker 2: of a B tier musical. Okay, it's job a BET 1893 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,240 Speaker 2: tier musical. I guess I don't want to take away 1894 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:20,479 Speaker 2: jobs from people. But I'm just saying, let's frame what 1895 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,680 Speaker 2: you are appropriately, and that is a karaoke companies to 1896 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,000 Speaker 2: show with the prize cash prize. 1897 01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:30,280 Speaker 3: And that's one minute. Okay, Edge, I just stood up clapping. 1898 01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:36,720 Speaker 2: Edge. Edge suck, Edge suck. But I would like to 1899 01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,240 Speaker 2: say for the reg and I told you this before 1900 01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:42,200 Speaker 2: the record, I am watching, I'm still watching, I'm watching 1901 01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,880 Speaker 2: American Idol, I'm watching the Voice. I'm watching it all happen. 1902 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,200 Speaker 2: Amazing talented people come through there. But the fact of 1903 01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,360 Speaker 2: the matter is is that no one is famous anymore. 1904 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,720 Speaker 2: It is like so crazy it makes me honest, it 1905 01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,640 Speaker 2: makes me laugh when people, as an insult, are like 1906 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,360 Speaker 2: I don't even know who this person is, and it's 1907 01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,680 Speaker 2: like no one else there is not there is not 1908 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 2: one person, there are not There are very few people, 1909 01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 2: I should say, right that everybody knows. Yeah, like it 1910 01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,559 Speaker 2: just doesn't exist. And in a world where that doesn't exist, 1911 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:14,839 Speaker 2: and it's so fractured that like, you can't you couldn't 1912 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,559 Speaker 2: create another Kelly Clarkson, right, you couldn't, like and the 1913 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 2: reason why, like it did, it was successful up until 1914 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,760 Speaker 2: a certain point through you know, we got Fantasia, we 1915 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 2: got Carrie, we got Jennifer Hudson, et cetera, Clay, but 1916 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,559 Speaker 2: like that was still back when we were talking at 1917 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:34,599 Speaker 2: the Water Schooler about television and there's just no monoculture anymore, 1918 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,280 Speaker 2: and that only you could only create a stars like that. 1919 01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,320 Speaker 1: But when there is a monocle, you know what's funny 1920 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 1: is like, who technically is an American Id'll find is 1921 01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:43,760 Speaker 1: Benson Boom. 1922 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:44,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I found that. 1923 01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,080 Speaker 1: The only reason he's as famous as he is is 1924 01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:51,960 Speaker 1: because he quit abruptly. So he he was on American Idol. 1925 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:56,640 Speaker 1: He gave this insane audition, like this amazing audition, and 1926 01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:57,559 Speaker 1: Katy Perry was. 1927 01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,960 Speaker 2: Literally like, do you want to win this show? You can't. 1928 01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:01,719 Speaker 1: If that's what you want, you can win the show. 1929 01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:05,000 Speaker 1: And then he like made it to I guess like 1930 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 1: the live rounds or whatever, and then was abruptly gone. 1931 01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,519 Speaker 1: I think because someone got in his head and was like, yo, 1932 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:13,439 Speaker 1: if you want a real career. 1933 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:17,080 Speaker 2: Don't stays to the live shows, do not. Yeah that 1934 01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,400 Speaker 2: that that happened recently with another contestant, a young girl 1935 01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,799 Speaker 2: who was giving like a Taylor Swift, like the Air Apparent, 1936 01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,280 Speaker 2: and like by the time she made it to the lives, 1937 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:31,400 Speaker 2: she was out because of the contracts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1938 01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,160 Speaker 2: And that's one other thing that is a problem with 1939 01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,280 Speaker 2: this is that like you're locking these people into things 1940 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,800 Speaker 2: that like maybe not necessarily help them. Yeah, do you 1941 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 2: listen to this podcast? I watch it? I listened to it. 1942 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,720 Speaker 2: Was do you watch I listened to it. There's a 1943 01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,800 Speaker 2: lot of holes in your story already. I listened to 1944 01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,120 Speaker 2: it when it for me, it's a touchdown for me 1945 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,559 Speaker 2: and my friends. Okay, I don't listen to it when 1946 01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 2: it's stars. You don't listen to it when it's starts. 1947 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,759 Speaker 2: I don't listen to it. Listen to the Gaga episode. 1948 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,800 Speaker 1: I have listened to the Gaga app so obviously, so 1949 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,200 Speaker 1: there's lots of holes, Okay. 1950 01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:04,439 Speaker 2: And I listened to the Kelly I listen. I guess 1951 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:05,920 Speaker 2: for me, I was did the Kelly corson I was 1952 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,920 Speaker 2: what two years ago? The thing was, I listened when 1953 01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,080 Speaker 2: there's stars that I know matter to YouTube. 1954 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:18,439 Speaker 1: M So did you listen to that dropped? 1955 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,479 Speaker 2: That dropped today? I watched her. I don't think so, 1956 01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,719 Speaker 2: honey collapse to her as a scholar of the form, 1957 01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,680 Speaker 2: I think it was a fantastic I don't think she 1958 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 2: did great. 1959 01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you did great, and you did great, and 1960 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,240 Speaker 1: I did great today everybody did. This was a wonderful 1961 01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:34,679 Speaker 1: return to form. 1962 01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:36,920 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, people will harald this as a 1963 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:41,080 Speaker 2: return to form. We're back, Yeah, I mean, like, listen, 1964 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:43,800 Speaker 2: I've listened to the Cold episode. 1965 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:47,160 Speaker 3: Nineteen times, white, No, no, no, the recent one. 1966 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:52,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Reason Friends, I literally we said we were 1967 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,000 Speaker 2: trapped in a burning Man exit line for about eight 1968 01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,599 Speaker 2: hours and we only had the podcasts that were already 1969 01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,479 Speaker 2: downloaded on our phones to listen to. We went back 1970 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:01,719 Speaker 2: and listened to it again. 1971 01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,559 Speaker 1: I forget about that as a thing people can do, 1972 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,599 Speaker 1: Like people can have favorite episodes of a podcast. Is sweet, 1973 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:09,640 Speaker 1: Like I we have that, Like we listened to that one. 1974 01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:19,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we revisit Meg's episode constantly. That was what I 1975 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,519 Speaker 2: got to buy your car? Yeah, yeah, we visited I 1976 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,680 Speaker 2: Feel like people a new classic in the Gabby Windy episode. 1977 01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 2: That one is great too. But like I think like 1978 01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:32,200 Speaker 2: it makes me sad sometimes because I want to be 1979 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,080 Speaker 2: tactile with my sisters. I want to be I want 1980 01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:36,479 Speaker 2: to want to be in the room. You want to 1981 01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:36,880 Speaker 2: be in the room. 1982 01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:41,559 Speaker 3: You want to be with you want to be just 1983 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:42,400 Speaker 3: had her on my podcast. 1984 01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,080 Speaker 2: She was amazing. She's just great great. That was really good. 1985 01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:47,680 Speaker 2: And again I did listen to that one too, But 1986 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:48,439 Speaker 2: it's okay. 1987 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:52,280 Speaker 1: It's lots of holes and maybe that's the title of 1988 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 1: that lots of holes. No, but we have we have 1989 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,479 Speaker 1: actual lull. We have lots of holes, and we have 1990 01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:01,080 Speaker 1: riding on the brown line. Maybe right on the brown line. 1991 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,120 Speaker 2: That feels the best, Joel, you know what I mean? 1992 01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,559 Speaker 1: Well, what else would feel the most sol is to 1993 01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:07,719 Speaker 1: plug his project. 1994 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:09,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you can listen to Bad Days that 1995 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,000 Speaker 2: comes out every Monday. I think I want to say 1996 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:16,080 Speaker 2: every Monday, uh or Tuesday. Somebody comes out every it 1997 01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,840 Speaker 2: comes out on a weekly basis. Matt's been on. I 1998 01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,479 Speaker 2: haven't gotten bone yet, I haven't landed my wife. You 1999 01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 2: can watch Love Hotel every Sunday at eight Central, following 2000 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,440 Speaker 2: Real Hoss Atlanta on Bravo, not on anymore. 2001 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:33,200 Speaker 3: Wait seven Central, but following Atlanta, I might have gotten around. 2002 01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,200 Speaker 2: Maybe it's or maybe I got maybe it's not following Atlanta. 2003 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,760 Speaker 2: Maybe it's lead into Atlanta. It's just on Sundays. But 2004 01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,680 Speaker 2: it's just on Sunday. It's got to be following it. 2005 01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:41,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2006 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,760 Speaker 1: But if I'm programming Bravo, I'm putting it on after it. Yeah, 2007 01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,800 Speaker 1: so catch that. The show is fucking fantastic. 2008 01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,280 Speaker 2: It is. I want to see. It's going to be. 2009 01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,840 Speaker 2: Really it's very different from anything that they've ever tried 2010 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:58,360 Speaker 2: to do. I think it's you know, obviously I'm biased, 2011 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,000 Speaker 2: but I think it's it's it's a compelling watch and 2012 01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,679 Speaker 2: you'll see these ladies in a very different light from 2013 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:04,400 Speaker 2: their respectives. 2014 01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,559 Speaker 1: And wait, it's it's Shannon, gizl Ashley and them. Okay, 2015 01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:10,519 Speaker 1: so I like one of them some of the people. 2016 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,720 Speaker 2: I like one of them. The thing is, you'll get 2017 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,600 Speaker 2: your life watch you. It will take you out. Yeah, 2018 01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 2: and you'll be on the floor because I'm laughing. 2019 01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:28,840 Speaker 1: Matter watching it's writing the Brown line, period period. 2020 01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,160 Speaker 2: Unless we'll discuss, and then let's discuss. I want I 2021 01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,479 Speaker 2: want to support my sister writing on the Brown line. 2022 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,680 Speaker 2: What else? And then yeah, I guess like loot will 2023 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,840 Speaker 2: be out later this year, and other things to be 2024 01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,480 Speaker 2: continued to be continued. 2025 01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:44,160 Speaker 3: We and every episode with a big old song. 2026 01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:45,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I forgot about this. 2027 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:52,559 Speaker 3: Oh lots of holes. 2028 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,000 Speaker 2: The stars aprightly shine. 2029 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:04,880 Speaker 4: The it is the day, the night I've got You 2030 01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:11,960 Speaker 4: made it your own, carry under what everyone by. 2031 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:15,240 Speaker 1: Last. 2032 01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,599 Speaker 2: Culturacis is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players 2033 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:18,400 Speaker 2: Inheart Radio. 2034 01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,720 Speaker 1: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yek, 2035 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,040 Speaker 1: Executive produced by Anna Hasnier and 2036 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,840 Speaker 2: Produced by Becka Ramos, Edited mixed by Doug Bami and 2037 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,479 Speaker 2: Nikla Board and our music is by Henry Mursky