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Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, he'll be a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer. He's a five time All Pro, two time

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champ. That's right tackle in football, Lane Johnson

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Speaker 1: entering his thirteenth NFL season. I had him retired a

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Speaker 1: couple of couple of years ago, and his agent called

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Speaker 1: me and said, now, he's the best tackle in football

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Speaker 1: on the right side. You get out of here all

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Speaker 1: right before I get to your mastermind camp, which I love.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's going to be a cosm in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: which the Cosm in LA is unbelievable. It's an incredible facility.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about this. So, you're a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champ. The last time you were a Super Bowl champ,

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Speaker 1: you were on the twenty seventeen team that came back

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Speaker 1: and did not win. Can you take anything from your

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Speaker 1: your your year after Super Bowl was there anything in

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen that caught you off guard? I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: face it, when you're a Super Bowl team, you play

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Speaker 1: more intense games.

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Speaker 2: Were you beat up, were you fatigue?

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Speaker 1: Go back to that year, Lane, what did you learn

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Speaker 1: from that year after Super Bowl where you didn't win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's a tough scenario to get over mentally.

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Speaker 3: But I think that each team you face really feels like,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's their chance to through something, and so mentally,

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Speaker 3: you're going to be receiving everybody's best, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, week in and week out.

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Speaker 3: So you know, coming into the season, that's what I'm

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Speaker 3: really looking for, you know, just you're gonna get everybody's best.

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Speaker 1: Shot the How much of an off season do you

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Speaker 1: give yourself after the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like I'm always doing something

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Speaker 3: training wise, so I maybe scale it down and be

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Speaker 3: as far as weights for like a month, more mobility stuff,

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Speaker 3: and then I kind of progressed my way through it,

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Speaker 4: So I mean it's a long season. You don't want

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Speaker 3: So a lot of it's you know, calculated to where

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Speaker 3: you're peaking at the right times.

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Speaker 4: In January February.

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Speaker 1: When you guys acquire Saquon Barkley, how many practices or

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Speaker 1: games Lane did it take for you to go, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: How long did it take?

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Speaker 3: Took me about three plays in team period at the

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Speaker 3: last training camp, So you know, I got to I

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Speaker 3: got to watch him a lot, you know, from the

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Speaker 3: other side of the field. I knew what type of

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Speaker 3: he has a gravitating type of personality. He's really a

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Speaker 3: I was just, you know, it was a few minutes

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was. So I've been critical to Nick Sirianni.

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Speaker 1: but it works. Tell me, he's still young. What's the secret, sauce,

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Speaker 1: What does Nick do that really works for you? As

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Speaker 3: like nothing's off limits. I really love how he grades

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Speaker 3: practices and games. You know, everybody on every play. If

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Speaker 2: The you know, I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia has got a very loud, aggressive media. I do

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Speaker 1: There's something about his maturity and maybe just its parents

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Speaker 3: Pretty quiet guy and he loves to listen to old

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Speaker 3: I think his temperament, you know, how he presents himself

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Speaker 3: it's very good for our team because, like you said,

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Speaker 3: having that day in day out is your leader. I

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Speaker 3: think it sets the president for us, you know, to

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Speaker 3: be calm and just focused on what's ahead of you,

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Speaker 3: and so you know that goes for everybody in the building.

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Speaker 1: Really, Okay, July twenty second, so you're about a month

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Speaker 2: Now seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: It is and again, Philadelphia football is different than Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: It is intense, every talk show, every practice. How do

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Speaker 1: be like, Okay, it's a journey. It's not just the desk,

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Speaker 1: it's a journey. Go to your young self and go

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Speaker 1: to Lane Johnson today, how do you approach a season?

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Speaker 4: I feel like I have a plan.

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Speaker 3: You know, as I've gotten older, I feel like I've

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Speaker 3: So it's a lot easier said and done. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: I feel like there is there isn't a greater city.

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Speaker 4: As far as motivation is concerned. In Philadelphia. They really

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Speaker 1: The fans are incredible, by the way. July tenth and eleventh,

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Speaker 1: for camp, you're at the Cosm in Dallas, which is

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Speaker 2: The one in la is epic. It's just so good.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna bring Hall of famers in top rookies

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Speaker 1: like Tristan Wurs and Deon Dawkins. You're having it called

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Speaker 1: the Mastermind Summit. It's the best offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you ever steal.

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Speaker 1: Anything from one of the offensive line? I mean, do

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Speaker 1: you ever borrow stuff on tape? Do you ever call

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: You do give me something? I mean you do that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'll call Jason Peters a lot during the season

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Speaker 3: I'll text Joe Thomas. I'm trying to learn everything I can.

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Speaker 3: I think the reason why my ergency wasn't starting this

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Speaker 3: And I was trying to figure out who's who's done

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Speaker 3: what and learn as much as I can, and so

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Speaker 3: giving everybody in this room over the past seven years

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Speaker 3: has been just really cool. And I think the time

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Speaker 3: listen to people that have really dominated the game of

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Speaker 4: From some different guys into your play style.

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Speaker 1: Entering year thirteen, when Lane Johnson gets up in the morning,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel to after thirteen years in the

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Speaker 4: I feel good in most days.

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Speaker 3: There are some days that you know can get long,

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Speaker 3: but no, I feel I mean, I was explaining I had,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's that's the truth. I feel a whole

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Speaker 4: So but yeah, it is challenging. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: But you know, we have a lot of a lot

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Speaker 3: of great guys around me, a lot of sport, so

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's all for them.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we got a picture of you apparently

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Speaker 1: holding up a massive fish.

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Speaker 2: Is this an Olklahoma? Holy? Is that Oldklahoma? Where is that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That is in Grand Lake of the Cherokees. It is

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Speaker 3: up by Tulsa. So yes, that is what you call paddlefish.

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Speaker 3: So it's a it's a type of like sturgeon. They

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Speaker 3: they are huge.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it was definitely a fun trip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope you didn't. I hope you had other

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Speaker 1: than like ten pound test line there. How much that

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Speaker 3: That one weighed around eighty so I think we had

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Speaker 3: sixty sixty pound braided Brady lawn. So yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a big boy. It took me had went

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Speaker 4: Bit after that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, j Mac gotta pulled you in the water right there,

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Speaker 1: Lane Johnson. Thank god, Lane Johnson was on the boat

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Speaker 1: and pulled that thing. Hey man, that's great, Seni, you

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Speaker 1: look great. Congratulations again you're just collecting rings and a

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Speaker 9: Turns this is the herd Line News Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Dude, when's the last time Philadelphia think about this? Did

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's because they're reeling in big fish like that.

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Speaker 5: All the guys are strong. The thing was massive. Anyways,

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Speaker 5: let's get started with CJ. Stroud and the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: You know, Strada had a great rookie season.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but remember tuns a lot a terrible year and

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Speaker 5: Stroud has been in the worst division in football for TA.

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Speaker 5: Listen, I'm not out on Stroud. I just Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 5: Come on next up to the NBA. Hey, let's go

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Speaker 5: back to the Celtics. Big Celtics day. You see Jalen

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Speaker 5: Hey, what about him for Gianni's But that was before

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you put them one, but they're

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Speaker 2: Jaln Brown. The Heat final story Colin k d.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's favorite Houston Rocket not officially a member of the

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Speaker 11: I think it's going to be great chemistry, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think everybody's opinion on that is

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Speaker 5: Now, there's an interesting stat our guys, dug up here.

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Speaker 5: Did you realize Kevin Durant is the only player in

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind.

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Speaker 5: on his fifth NBA team. Like, let that sink it

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Speaker 2: Once he joins the Rocket.

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Speaker 1: Well, we as sports fans, we like the Jeter route

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I just I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: We don't want our guys bouncing around. I don't hold

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Speaker 1: The NBA had an all time one on one tournament.

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Speaker 1: Don't put centers in. That's unfair. Yeah, you can be

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Speaker 2: Jordan couldn't stop him. He's too tall.

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Speaker 1: He would get no he would get easier shots than

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Speaker 2: So that's an interesting take.

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Speaker 5: So in prime, Kevin Durant in a one on one

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Speaker 5: And I I don't know if I disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: to you can bully him. I know it's my I

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Speaker 2: That's a hot take.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little stunned. I'm a little shaken right now.

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Speaker 5: Just rather I'm like, wow, that's not terrible. And I

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he had the jumper KD does.

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Speaker 5: That's a good take, Calard Rare, job, rare, Good job

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Speaker 5: by you there, Tim.

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Speaker 2: Deep dive on the Draft.

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Speaker 1: Four or five guys you may not have watched Aaron

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Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 1: All right, a guy that watches as much college basketball

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Speaker 2: I'll start with it. You'm gona ask you abou four

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Speaker 1: go look at top picks that don't make NBA is

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Speaker 1: a good job of identifying. I mean with sometimes just

441
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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen year old kids in the NFL, it's easier

442
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Speaker 1: I get four or five years of tape. You're a

443
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Speaker 1: more mature player. You're getting eighteen year olds from Yugoslavia.

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Speaker 4: You don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you really don't are the former you know, Yugoslava,

446
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Speaker 1: So you just don't know. And so my take is

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Speaker 1: when I watch Ace Bailey, I'm like, Okay, you're great,

448
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Speaker 1: but Rutgers couldn't make the tournament. You wouldn't work out

449
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Speaker 1: for anybody. I mean, like not a lot of self awareness.

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Speaker 1: Last night you watched him, you know him? Are there

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Speaker 1: red flags? What do you make of him as a

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Speaker 1: player and as a prospect?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, first of all, I appreciate you having me. I

454
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Speaker 9: don't know if this is the last show you're doing

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Speaker 9: before you ship out to Portland or whatever, but I

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Speaker 9: hope you had a good night last.

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Speaker 6: Night at your draft party there Colin.

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Speaker 9: So Ace Bailey, listen, the whole situation is weird. I'll

459
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Speaker 9: be totally honest. You know, I didn't love the whole

460
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Speaker 9: I'm only going to work out for certain things now.

461
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Speaker 9: I think I understand the of he's a high volume guy,

462
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Speaker 9: you don't want to go to the wrong team, sit

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Speaker 9: on the bench, not set yourself up to get the

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Speaker 9: second contract.

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Speaker 6: But I also think that like, once that.

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Speaker 9: Happens, I don't blame the Jazz for drafting a guy

467
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Speaker 9: totally based on upside that if it hits like it

468
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Speaker 9: isn't an insane possibility, like it isn't a completely unrealistic

469
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Speaker 9: possibility that he ends up the best player in the draft.

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Speaker 6: And so you know, the Jazz are one of these teams.

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Speaker 9: I don't think the rebuild has been quite as long

472
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Speaker 9: as we think it is, but it feels like it's

473
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Speaker 9: been like four or five years. They've been waiting to

474
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Speaker 9: get in position to get that guy.

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Speaker 6: And if you have the.

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Speaker 9: Opportunity to get the potentially first second best player in

477
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Speaker 9: this draft at number six where they were drafting, you

478
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Speaker 9: just have to take advantage. So I didn't love Ace

479
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Speaker 9: Bailey's approach to this. I would have personally advised him

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Speaker 9: to handle it differently. But once he's there and you're

481
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Speaker 9: the Utah Jazz and you just cannot get into that

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Speaker 9: top spot or two, I don't blame them for taking

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Speaker 9: the upside pick.

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Speaker 1: Okay, his teammate Dylan Harper, and Carter Bryant to the Spurs,

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm not gonna pretend I know, but it

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Speaker 1: does feel like they're going to be part of their

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Speaker 1: core four, with Wemby being obviously the centerpiece. Give me

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Speaker 1: a little on Dylan Harper and a little on Carter Bryant.

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Speaker 9: Well, I love the draft, and you know I put

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Speaker 9: out a tweet at some point last night that this

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Speaker 9: feels like if it hits where OKC was four years ago,

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Speaker 9: is you've got all these picks.

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Speaker 6: And again, I also give the Spurs credit.

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Speaker 9: They might not be drafting frankly in the lottery for

495
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Speaker 9: literally like a decade. If this goes well, they won't

496
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Speaker 9: be drafting this high for a long time. So don't

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Speaker 9: get cute, don't take just take the best player available

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Speaker 9: and hope that he absolutely hits in Dylan Harper, and

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Speaker 9: I think there's an argument that he was the best player. Again,

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Speaker 9: you could argue somebody else, Ace Bailey, whatever, the guy

501
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Speaker 9: that I am excited about Colin, and I'm so fired

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Speaker 9: up that you feel the same way. Carter Bryan to me,

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Speaker 9: if Carter Bryant hits I think he's going to be

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Speaker 9: a true star. And I know everybody wants to look

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Speaker 9: at the stats at Arizona. I'll give a little background.

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Speaker 9: You know, I love Tommy Lloyd. I love this staff.

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Speaker 9: I hope this doesn't come off as a criticism, but

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Speaker 9: they are a program.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 9: Tommy Lloyd's a Mark Fu guy. Mark Feu relies on

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Speaker 9: his veterans, trust his veterans. Tommy Lloyd comes from that tree.

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Speaker 9: And I think Tommy Lloyd, I think, planned on easing

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Speaker 9: Carter Brian in and all of a sudden it's like,

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Speaker 9: oh my god, this guy's way better than we realized.

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Speaker 9: And now all of a sudden, you're kind of, you know,

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Speaker 9: stuck in this spot of he's playing better than you,

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Speaker 9: anticipating the point I'm trying to make, don't look at

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Speaker 9: the stats. The analogy that I have made on Carter

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Speaker 9: Brian I truly believe I've said this a million times

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Speaker 9: for people who have listened to me.

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Speaker 6: I was at Yukon at the same time as Rudy Gay.

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Speaker 9: Carter Bryant reminds me so much of Rudy Gay at

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Speaker 9: the same age. And I know some people say, oh,

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Speaker 9: Rudy Gay, what is that Rudy Gay played in the

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Speaker 9: NBA for eighteen years. Rudy Gay retired last year at

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Speaker 9: thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 6: Like, don't let Lebron fool you.

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Speaker 9: If you are playing until you're thirty eight years old,

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Speaker 9: it means you had a very good NBA career. And

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Speaker 9: I think if it hits Carter Brian as one of

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Speaker 9: the two three four best players in this draft. So

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Speaker 9: I love the Dylan Harper pick, but I really love

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Speaker 9: the Carter Brian pick as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been saying for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: When you turned Arizona on certain college players, you're like, oh, okay, wow,

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Speaker 1: who's that guy? The other kid, the Baylor kid VJ Edgecombe. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we all watched Baylor top program. That kid now stylistically

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Speaker 1: he's not Westbrook but burst Speed jet fuel while he

539
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Speaker 1: jumped off the TV when I watched him.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts one thousand percent. First of all, I'll say

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Speaker 6: this about Carter going back to Carter Bryant. For half

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Speaker 6: a second, I was in the same boat as you.

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Speaker 6: I had seen him in high school.

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Speaker 9: You turn on that first second Arizona and you're like,

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Speaker 9: oh my goodness, this guy is better than we expected.

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Speaker 9: But in terms of Edgecomb is concerned. So I'm with you, Colin,

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Speaker 9: and I'll say this is that you know myself. A

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Speaker 9: lot of people were kind of critical of the draft

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Speaker 9: coverage last night. I thought they actually did a good

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Speaker 9: job of explaining kind of this weird situation that Philadelphia

551
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Speaker 9: is in where it's like, if MBAT is healthy, you're

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Speaker 9: sort of a contender, especially with where the East is

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Speaker 9: going to be next year, but also you're sort of

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Speaker 9: in a rebuild because m beat is never healthy.

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Speaker 6: What do you do?

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Speaker 9: And I think Edgecomb is exactly what you just said

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Speaker 9: is he's an elite a plus plus athlete that is

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Speaker 9: learning the game of basketball in real time. But I

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Speaker 9: think in a worst case scenario, you have a guy

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Speaker 9: that shows up to work every day, competes, plays hard,

561
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Speaker 9: elite defender, and then it just comes down to can

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Speaker 9: he consistently get that offense? And I think with him

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Speaker 9: and I think you kind of mentioned this off the top,

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Speaker 9: sometimes it's just so tough. I mean, this is an

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Speaker 9: eighteen year old kid going into a Baylor program that

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Speaker 9: has always had success, but also with a couple you know,

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Speaker 9: high ups or not high upside, but really kind of

568
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Speaker 9: veteran transfer type guys. And you know he kind of

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Speaker 9: didn't know not in a negative way, but didn't really

570
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Speaker 9: know where he fed how, you know, how how far

571
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Speaker 9: could he push things? And so I think he could

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Speaker 9: be just just I think in a worst case scenario,

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Speaker 9: you're getting an elite defensive player, elite athlete, guy that

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Speaker 9: shows up every.

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Speaker 6: Day and if the offense clicks.

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Speaker 9: I know I've said it about four different guys in

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Speaker 9: this draft, but again, he's another one that in theory,

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Speaker 9: could be one of the two or three best players

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Speaker 9: in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Okay, a guy that's already an NBA shooter is Trade

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Speaker 1: Johnson and who went to Washington. Now, not a lot

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Speaker 1: of college guys are elite shooters. Can this guy walk

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Speaker 1: into the NBA and walk in and average double figures

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Speaker 1: and be like a like a number two or three

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Speaker 1: scoring option for a team.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was talking to your Texas insider Greg Tooey

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Speaker 9: before I came on here. And two, we loved watching

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Speaker 9: him as a longhorn. I loved watching him.

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Speaker 6: Let me just keep it very simple.

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Speaker 9: When you are breaking some of Kevin Durant's freshman scoring

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Speaker 9: record to Texas, you can put the ball in the

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Speaker 9: basket right, And all I would say is is that

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Speaker 9: you know, anybody who isn't sold or doesn't know enough

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Speaker 9: about him. He played a game at bud Wall and

595
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Speaker 9: Arena against Arkansas where he did literally break Kevin Durant's

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Speaker 9: single game scoring record of he had forty two. Durant

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Speaker 9: had forty when he played at Texas, and he just

598
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Speaker 9: showed every shot, every this, every that, and the thing

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Speaker 9: I'll give him credit for too, a little bit like Edgecumbe,

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Speaker 9: but not really is. You know, he was playing on, frankly,

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Speaker 9: not a very good team. I know Texas made the tournament,

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Speaker 9: but they had this weird resid a SEC gets a

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Speaker 9: million teams in and he showed up every day ready

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Speaker 9: to play. And I thought, you know they're on a

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Speaker 9: big losing streak. It's easy as a freshman, you know

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Speaker 9: you're going pro take the night off. He showed up

607
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Speaker 9: every single day ready to compete. You know, I'll be honest,

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Speaker 9: I don't know that he does much other than score.

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Speaker 9: But listen, every team in every team in the NBA

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Speaker 9: needs a dude that can put the ball in the

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Speaker 9: basket and trade.

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Speaker 6: Johnson certainly provides that.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything about his game that you does he

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Speaker 1: have a trade or something he has to work on.

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Speaker 9: It's a great question. I actually don't think so as

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Speaker 9: crazy as that. Now, listen, everybody's got to work on everything.

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Speaker 9: The thing I caution with Cooper Flag is I think

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Speaker 9: when we think of these high upside freshmen that have

620
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Speaker 9: been talked about for years, we just assume it's a

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Speaker 9: dude that's going to come in and score, you know,

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Speaker 9: thirty points a night, or his ceiling is a thirty

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Speaker 9: point nine score.

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Speaker 6: That's not really who he is.

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Speaker 9: He's a great facilitator, you know, six foot eight, six

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Speaker 9: foot ninety average, however many assists he did at Duke.

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Speaker 6: He is a great wing defender. I love that.

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Speaker 9: I was saying that right as the wing defense shows

629
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Speaker 9: up on film and I look like a genius. But no,

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Speaker 9: he's a great wing defender. He's a great help side defender.

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Speaker 9: He's just a complete player. And I think until you

632
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Speaker 9: watch him game after game, you don't fully appreciate that.

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Speaker 9: I think the assumption is you turn it on, you

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Speaker 9: want to see him score thirty. He can do that,

635
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Speaker 9: but that is not where he's at his best. He's

636
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Speaker 9: at his best, playing both ends of the floor, competing

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Speaker 9: defending on the wing, help side defense. I just think

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Speaker 9: he's going to be an absolute start. And I think

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Speaker 9: the cool thing is maybe he's not a guy that

640
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Speaker 9: can get thirty points a game, but with that specific team,

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Speaker 9: he doesn't have to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the I like the fact there were so many

643
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Speaker 1: domestic players, and I think the NIL is helping American

644
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Speaker 1: universities poach some of the great European players. The Bulls

645
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Speaker 1: got a guy that I'm you know, he's so raw

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Speaker 1: you can't really tell. Is I mean, there's always there's

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Speaker 1: always a guy or two that we got about a

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Speaker 1: minute left. Is there a player you're worried about? There's

649
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Speaker 1: always going to be guys that don't work? I mean,

650
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Speaker 1: are some of these young guys? I mean, I was

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Speaker 1: just reading all the draft perspective stuff last night in

652
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Speaker 1: this morning. Anybody that you worry about.

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Speaker 6: First of all, I'll just say this really quick.

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Speaker 9: I love the take that you've had about and NIL

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Speaker 9: helping both college basketball and the NBA. I think there

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Speaker 9: were about four or five guys that could have heard

657
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Speaker 9: their names late first round that all decided to go

658
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Speaker 9: back to college get ready for next year.

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Speaker 6: And next year's.

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Speaker 9: Class is loaded as far as guys that I do

661
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Speaker 9: worry a little bit about.

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Speaker 6: Listen, I heard you know, billis all you know?

663
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Speaker 9: Fired up about Colin Murray Boyles at number nine there

664
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Speaker 9: to Toronto.

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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 6: Certainly it didn't seem like he was excited to go to Toronto.

667
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Speaker 9: I'll let everybody do the lip reading on the draft

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Speaker 9: video two. He's like an undersized four not crazy athletic.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 9: It's one of those where everybody else is so excited

671
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Speaker 9: about him, you feel like you being me, feel like you're.

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Speaker 6: Supposed to be excited about him. I don't know that

673
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Speaker 6: I'm there yet.

674
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Speaker 9: He's the one guy I just didn't really get in

675
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 9: the top ten. But again, maybe I'm just missing out

676
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Speaker 9: on it and everybody else has the right take on him.

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Speaker 1: Oh by the way, thirty seconds the Walter Clayton kid.

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Speaker 1: I don't love him as much as everybody else, the

679
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Speaker 1: kid that went to Florida.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the guard Yeah yeah, I think. I don't know.

681
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Speaker 1: I just I think he's a is he? Is he

682
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Speaker 1: a your fifth best starter? I've got all everybody loves it.

683
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: I love his story. I'm minute left. How good is

684
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: he gonna be now.

685
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 6: Great question, and listen, I love college hoops.

686
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Speaker 9: I'm as guilty as anybody have fallen in love with

687
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Speaker 9: guys that that have an awesome tournament. Uh, listen, maybe

688
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Speaker 9: maybe it is one of those stories better than the

689
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Speaker 9: actual reality of it. We're talking about a kid who

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Speaker 9: started his career at Iwona with Rick Patino. Rick Patino

691
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Speaker 9: goes to Saint John's, Todd Golden convinces him to go

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Speaker 9: to Florida.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a dude that can get buckets.

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Speaker 9: Now again, you see a guy dominating NCAA tournament, you

695
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Speaker 9: assume he's gonna be a top five pick, and that

696
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Speaker 9: translates to the NBA as a six two six' three

697
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Speaker 9: guy that isn't really a ball, handler you. KNOW i

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Speaker 9: think he's more of an off the bench. Score but,

699
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 9: yeah The wizards just need LIKE nba caliber, players AND

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Speaker 9: i think they got one In Walter.

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Speaker 6: Clay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's to, me he's like your fifth best, start

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Speaker 1: first guy off the bench gets a. Bucket there's huge

704
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Speaker 1: value in the, league but he's not a. STAR i

705
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Speaker 1: just love his. Story Aaron torres gotta. Go it's great seeing, You.

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Speaker 6: Bud thank you for having Me colin Enjoyed.

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Speaker 2: Portland, okay, yeah thank you very.

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Speaker 1: MUCH i will all be coming off the bench as,

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Speaker 1: well clearly Now i'm In.

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Speaker 4: Memphis you know.

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Speaker 1: They didn't love me that, much all, RIGHT J? Mack

712
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Speaker 1: how about. That that's a deep dive on college. Hoops,

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Speaker 1: baby how about. THAT i KNOW J mack loves.

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Speaker 4: IT i know he.

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Speaker 2: Does see them on