WEBVTT - Movie Crush: Janet Varney on Tron 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.040 Hey, everybody, and welcome to Movie Crush. This is Chuck 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:32.800 Bryant and this is episode one. Very excited to welcome everyone. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.800 If you're coming over from stuff you should know, then 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.240 thanks for your support. If you're just a movie fan 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:42.479 in general and happened upon this, then uh, welcome as 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:48.280 well into our studio here at Pont City Market in Atlanta, Georgia. So, guys, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:53.440 I am so excited about this show. I'm so excited 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:58.160 about episode one because Janet Varney, i gotta say, is 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.720 probably the best Episode one guest and all the podcast history. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.080 She's a she's a pal of mine. I met Janet Um. 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.080 I met Janet a few years ago at her comedy 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.520 festival that she co created many years ago, Sketch Fest 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.240 in San Francisco every January, and for for my money, 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:21.040 it's the best comedy festival in the land. And she's 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.600 been kind enough to ask Josh and I'd have performed 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.959 there for the past few years and it's become a 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.600 little tradition for us. And Janet is just awesome. She 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:34.920 is a very, very talented actress. She's a gifted improv comedian, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.040 and she's smart and funny and just as kind of 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.559 a soul as you would ever hope to meet. So 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.920 she was here shooting in Atlanta, so I had her 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.039 in the studio, which is great. She was shooting season 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.320 two of her awesome, awesome show on if C, Stand 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:55.280 Against Evil, which actually just premiered yesterday on i f C. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.560 Season two just premiered, so check that out. It's uh, 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.240 it's a really great show. It's the It's Dana Gould's 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.800 comic take on The Zombie Show, which, uh, if you 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.160 haven't seen it, bene season one and then check out 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.359 season two on i f C right now. Uh. So, anyway, 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.440 Janet was here shooting that. And the last thing that 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.800 people want to do when they're shooting a TV show 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.840 and the hot, hot summer of Atlanta, working a lot 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.400 of nights, is to come in and record a silly 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.200 old podcast. But Janet is a pal and very loyal 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.720 person and friend, and so she was. She was great. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.360 She came in here, We killed it. We talked about 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:38.600 the movie Tron, the original obviously from the Disney picture 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.600 with Jeff Bridges and Bruce Box Lightner, Sindey Morgan, David Warner, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.120 written and directed by Steven Lisberger. Way Ahead of its time. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.639 We both agreed, and um, this is episode one. And 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.520 you'll notice here this was such an early episode that 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.320 as we get started here, uh, in our conversation, I 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.679 didn't even have a title for movie Crush yet. But 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.200 then I did get a title from my good good 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:07.440 friend in real life, Scott Ippolito. Scott's one of my 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.120 best friends, and I threw it out to him and said, hey, 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.959 what should I call this thing? And I gave him 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.880 the the idea and he went, how about movie crush? 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.360 And it was just that simple. So we we talked 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.680 a little bit about that at first, which was kind 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.960 of fun. So here we go with Janet Varney and Tron. 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.480 This show is so new, I don't have a title 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.640 for it. This is very exciting. Should we just spend 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.720 the whole time trying to figure out where the title is? Well, 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.560 it's funny. I was gonna call it like something dumb 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.280 and on the notes, like my favorite movie, but then 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:43.720 I was like, I don't want people to think it's 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.720 my favorite movie? About what about what's your favorite movie? 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.600 Notable person? And that's a bad title. So but all 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.720 those variations of all those things were taken, and that's 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.960 the thing about podcasting, and someone can do a show 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.840 for a month eight years a go and it's sort 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:03.960 of taken. Yeah, Like if you go to start something up, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.160 they could always say, hey, I had that first story. Yeah, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.280 when I've started my podcast, uh, which is now and 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.520 has always been the j V Club to the Public, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.800 which is one of the greatest names ever. By the way, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.960 that worked out. That worked out for me. I'm glad 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.159 about that. But I was originally and maybe that's for 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.040 the best, because this other I was going to call 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.480 I was a teenage podcast with this sort of you know, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.119 like sixties era monster movie kind of theme to it. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.360 But someone had a had had had a podcast where 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.440 they did a handful of episodes a couple of years 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.920 back called I was a teenage podcast. So I had 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.320 to throw that away. Those people the worst, the ones 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.640 that starts something and don't succeed, and then they're like 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.440 give me, like all of us, like all of us 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.840 at one point, all right, listen, here's some I do improve. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.919 I surely can come up with some. My first instinct 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:56.160 was to suggest Chuck's Flicks instead of chicks Flicks, like 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.279 chick flicks, and then I thought it could be called 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:07.159 chucks flux. That's they won't know what it just sings. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.760 My friend. I did ask my friend, who's great at 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:14.760 titling things, and he said, what about the confession stand Oh, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.520 the concessions. But then that sounds like you really are 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.039 getting into it. Well, but it also sounds like it 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.120 would be just about guilty pleasures exactly, like you have 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.160 to confess that, and no one would confess like I 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.599 gotta say, like the Godfather's my favorite, right, don't tell anyone? Yeah, 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.160 something to say with pride. So I'm kind of big 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.440 ground at zero right now. I have no idea. And 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:43.680 then I thought about something like like um Psycho Psycho's 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:48.479 Godfather's and street cars named desire, like something big and 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.520 grand that just sounds like the title of a book. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.680 Well then has a coal and after it, well, no, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:58.000 it was. There was that book about movies called Stole It. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.600 There was a book about seventies filming and called Easy 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.400 Writers and Raging Bulls, which I was like, I can 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.760 just rip that off, but I guess I can't because 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.479 that's the first said. And you don't even know the book. 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.520 It's a coffee table book. Without me knowing it's a 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.800 coffee table book. Well it later, okay, but what is 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.800 your bringing that up? Because now that's just going to 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.400 eat away and everything I would have said, I'm just 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.440 going to only be thinking about. But now you're just 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.520 gonna text me in the show I've got for sure, 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.719 I'll come up with a and then I'll put it 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.120 on a T shirt for you, like you did with 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.440 Benecker and his great dream joke, which we can't spoil. Uh, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.760 did you were you like, did you go to movies 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.200 a lot when you were a kid, because I know 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.480 a little bit about your life because of your own 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:43.919 show in Arizona. Yeah, movies are very that's right. I 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.560 guess they can finally talk. But did you go to 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.840 the movies a ton like I did? That's definitely one 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.320 of the things that you can do in uh smallish 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:57.080 city in Arizona when the summer is just brutal and 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.719 there's nothing to be done outside really like literally exactly. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:06.880 I have so many memories of like just the fold 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.040 out car, Like no one uses those anymore, I guess 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.680 because windows are better, or maybe they still do in Arizona. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.000 Maybe you still have the sunshades that sort of opened. 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.000 But we just had those folding we just like folding cardboards. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.040 Some of them, the fore fancying made the car look 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.080 like they were in sunglasses. Sure, sure, but that was 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.640 vitally important, as was trying to find any place in 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.600 the shade, because so many times I would get seatbelt burns. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:36.120 Would have you that's one of the highest places on 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.760 the planet carpeted dashboards because of that. Yeah, two, there's 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.640 I mean, those are the moments where you really do think, 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:48.360 and you really think, how how I can barely survive here? 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.360 And we have all the technology and the idea that 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.800 the only reason we're here is because people have been 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:59.800 dealing with this heat for a couple of years, that 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:05.120 that there's even survivable beyond you know, free having car shades. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.960 I imagine every time I drove to l A through 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.640 that desert and then I would eventually get get cross 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.160 over into the l A basin and that cool breeze hits. 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.000 I used to think about, like the settlers, what they 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.720 must have thought, those who pressed on, Yeah, like, well 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.560 this is clearly where I'm gonna live. But if you 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.480 stop in Yuma and go I think this is the 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:29.600 best we're gonna get. Guys, we're not going any further west, 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:34.120 just a screw us. Yeah. So the movie theater obviously 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.680 as a respite, Yeah, very much so, So you would 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.480 go see whatever I feel like I would, I mean 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.480 like we we dropped off by the parents, that kind 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.480 of Yeah. I would get dropped off by my parents 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.559 for sure. Um there you know. Then I would take 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.520 the bus. I saw a lot of movies by myself. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.040 Oh for sure that the public bus. Of the movies, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.680 yeah you bet, Um they're my My dad's house is 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.520 right in between two malls that have movie theaters. So 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.480 that was there's a really easy couple of straight line 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.520 go twos on the bus to see movies. And um, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.840 and I have very I do have very specific memories 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.520 of seeing certain movies and and I can sort of 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.480 put them in context. And then there are other movies. 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.360 I couldn't tell you bus movies not bus Well, no, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.200 I don't think that, like for example, when I did. Um. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.280 Craig Atkowski has a podcast where it is just us 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.480 talking about his movie. He likes to talk about his 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.160 old list of his favorite movies and his wife Carlos 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.760 on it and I, uh, because they go in order. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.160 I happened to Get Dead Poets Society. And that was 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.640 a movie that I could remember. I could remember everything about, 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.720 like going into l con Mall and seeing it and 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.160 then feeling that my life had changed, and I cried 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.480 so hard that I had to wait until they were 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:52.040 they kicked me out as they were sweeping their popcorn off. Um. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:56.679 That was a heavy movie for people that, like, you're 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.960 a few years younger than me, but I well quite 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.679 a few actually, Um, but just to be a teen 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.320 or and or a young teen and seeing that movie, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.640 that's like heavy stuff to process. Absolutely, you know. Yeah, 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.560 although yes, and then I feel like shortly after that 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.840 I got into like even darker stuff because you have 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:17.480 to go through that phase in high school where well 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.000 you sort of love a coffer for orange and yeah, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.600 and like eraser Head and all that kind of stuff. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.760 So and I'm having a lot of flashbacks to that 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.440 era because of Twin Peaks coming back and have you 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.200 been watching that? I have? What do you think? I mean? 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.440 I'm struggling with some of it. I'm I'm struggling deeply 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.560 with some of it. Producer very into it, you're into it, 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:44.760 the hook line and Sinker, including this last episode. Yeah, Well, 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.720 I've been watching, and my whole deal is the Twin 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.120 Peaks stuff I love and that's what it's like, five 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.160 of it and the other stuff like is total Lynch, 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.040 which is great and weird and awesome, but I kind 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.560 of wanted Twin Peaks. Yeah, um, listen, I'll say Dougie 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.800 all day long. I don't ever want I don't ever 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.720 want Colm McLaughlin to be anyone but Douggie. I love 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.400 him so much. As I will watch, Yeah, I will 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.439 watch the seven minute take of him eating potato chips, 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.040 but I don't know if I can watch the seven 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.960 minute take of X y Z all of these other 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.880 things that he's throwing in that are just they're so long. Um. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.480 I just love lunch so much though, and like, I 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.960 just want him to be doing this stuff, like, even 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.560 if it doesn't resonate fully with me, just keep doing it. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.000 I agree. I'm just I can't. Sometimes I feel like 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.160 he's pranking us a little bit, and sometimes I feel 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.880 like he's like they gave me final cut. I'm just 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.440 gonna do this. I'm just gonna show this for five 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.880 minutes because I can. Yeah, because I don't think it 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.200 fully makes sense in his head in a narrative way. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.640 There are things that don't advance the story in any way, 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.440 shape or form. And the dude is like, how old 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:57.840 is he? And he's still that weird? Yeah, yeah, you didn't. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.960 Interviewed him for Wired magazine and they sat down with 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.040 him and they got on really well because Brandon asked 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.440 really interesting questions and stuff like the questions that he 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.800 was supposed to ask. Probably Uh so we got all 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.640 this like fun backstory about David Lynch and the bird 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:14.560 that lived in his on his roof and all of 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.439 this kind of this and that the kind of stuff 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.040 that you want to hear that you want to go, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.280 Oh God, of course that's how his brain works. Um. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.000 But yeah, so lots of going to the movies when 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.920 I was younger, lots of My dad is a huge 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:31.480 movie fan, um, and he introduced me to a lot 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.000 of movies that I certainly wouldn't have seen as young 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.800 as I was had he not been like, I think 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.800 you're ready for this. You know, what was your first 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.640 do you remember that? I'm not sure. I'm not sure 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.840 what it was, but I know that my mom took 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:51.520 me to see Robocopy. You gotta be are there's no way, 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.600 that's not hard. There's some crazy violent stuff that happened 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.080 were back then. Yeah, so I don't know. And then 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.920 I and then she took me to Die Hard. Also, 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.520 my Mormon mom, who did not television at home for 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.400 some reason, wanted to take me to both of those movies. Yeah. Um, 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.280 so those were probably, I mean, those have got to 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.199 be the first our movies that I went to. I 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.640 don't know if I had seen something at home before then, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.560 but definitely those. Yeah. Mine was my dad took me 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.520 to a war movie, the Big Red One, uh, which 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.800 was good and fine, good World War two movie. And 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.439 then the first one I ever saw, I think at 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:29.160 all was Escaped from New York. And I was over 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.199 at some friends house after church and they were putting 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.040 it on and I called my mom to ask if 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.600 it was okay adorable? What'd you say? Uh? Yeah, she said, 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.000 because I had called. If she had said no, you 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.640 think you would have been like, as I gonna go. Oh, now, 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:49.240 that's a good question. I mean I certainly then and 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:53.559 was an m a rule follower, so I don't know 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.320 what I would have done. I like to not walk 0:13:55.320 --> 0:14:00.320 through those stories. She said, yes, that's all that matter. 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.120 Do you know she had a good kid. What a relief. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.720 But my dad, this is kind of really I can't 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.040 believe I'm going to say this to people out loud. 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.760 My dad took my sister to see Body Heat in 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.640 the theater, which I don't know. I can't imagine. My 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.320 dad did not go to movies ever, so I've got 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.520 to think that he had no idea what he was 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.680 going to see. He's called body Heat. It's not like 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.680 the Postman always wrings twice where you're like, oh, that 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.680 could be anything. It's probably about male It's about the U. S. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.640 Mail system exact body heat. Yea, what do you think 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:37.000 it was like a thermal tracking soldiers tracking? Uh, yeah, 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.080 I'm gonna have well, I would say I was asking 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.120 about that one day, but I'm never going to ask 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.000 him that. Maybe I ask my sister. I'll ask him. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.920 You want me to ask him? Why didn't he Why 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.920 didn't he get up and leave the movie? Yeah? I 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.320 actually got up and left during Greece too, during the 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.600 scene where the girls were having to sleepover and their underwear. 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:53.960 My mom took me to see Grease and I was 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.560 so like embarrassed, I said, Mom, can we leave even 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.200 remember their underwear. I feel it wasn't just a jo 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:05.080 it was I was Southern Baptist, I was on ankle, 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.880 on ankle, there was a lot of refreshing going on. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.680 I didn't know what was going on. My dad let 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.239 me watch Animal House and I was like, boobs, boobs. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.560 So your dad was cool, yeah, he Well, that's what's 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.200 weird is he really didn't want me to see violent 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.760 stuff because he knew how sensitive us I was. But 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.960 he was like, yes, sex is fine, it's silly, it's 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.000 in you know, nomies, it's fine. Uh. And then my mom, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:34.240 who again Mormon, didn't have a television, somehow wanted to 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.000 take me to see those two movies. I just don't 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.560 to this day, I don't understand. You get the violence 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.960 from your mom, I guess from your dad. Yeah, that's 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.720 great as it should be. Yeah, the American way, everything 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:48.920 was covered. So do you remember we're talking about Tron specifically, Yeah, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.320 as your pick for all time favorite movies. And first 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.680 of all, I'm really bad at ranking anything anything like Yeah, 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.040 I mean, that's that's what the show. But some people 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.640 really like going like I mean, again, using Craigs an example, 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.000 he loves that he has this order that shifts and 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:08.560 he plays with it and he kind of he knows 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.760 it any giving care but it though, Yeah, that's true. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.240 Didn't that the point? Yeah, Like, no one can anyone's 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.120 all time favorite movie on any given day, It's probably 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.560 gonna be different. I guess, Yeah, I guess so. But 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.360 I do feel like there are people who take pride 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.600 and kind of like it helps define me. This is 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.320 my all time favorite movie, and for many is The Godfather? 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.200 How many go? How many times are gonna have to 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:29.720 talk about The Godfather? And are you going to tell 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.800 people if that's your favorite movie of all time? We've 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.600 talked about it three times already. Can you pick a 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.800 different one? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not going to repeat movies. 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.880 I don't think unless it's unless there could be some 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.720 like a fresh take right now. But it's funny that 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.800 everyone I've asked so far as immediately been stressed out 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.520 about the notion of picking one and then going public 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.000 with that, because I think everyone does think it says 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.920 something about them. Yeah, well that's I think. Could I 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.200 if I really sat down and tried to pick something thing? 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.440 I mean, someone asked me. I think actually when I 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.520 did a brief interview at the l A Podcast Festival 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.280 where we have pointing to you because we saw each 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.359 other there and you did my podcast. Um, I think 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.680 I blurted out Harold and Maud because for a long 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.000 time that was I would have I would have that 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.200 would have been the situation, like from my teens into 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.800 my twenty In my early twenties, I was proud to 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:28.280 say that was my favorite movie cool and and I 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.080 still love it a lot. But um, but I think 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:34.959 so I couldn't and I said that when I was interviewed. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.679 Then I was like, Okay, I'll put Harold and at 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.640 the top of the list. I guess, but screw it. Yeah, 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.640 I'm going. I'm going. I'm I'm gonna go with Tron 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.760 because it's been important to me far longer and I 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:50.840 I love it. Nerd dudes all over the world listening 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.560 to this that are super excited that that's your favorite, Well, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.840 I probably will. You're probably also safe and that I 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.320 don't think anyone else will. It's not gonna be like, 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:06.600 oh on again, is everybody's number one? Glass loves Tron? Um. 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.359 I have a confession to make about Tron. Have you 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.080 never seen it. I've seen Tron. I hated saw it 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.320 this afternoon. You really it was the first time you've 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:18.000 ever seen it. I don't know how I didn't see Tron. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.720 I never saw Tron. This is what a great first episode. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:26.240 I know. I loved the Arcade game. I played it obsessively, 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.920 and I never saw the movie. Oh my god, this 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:30.320 is great. And I don't know why. I was trying 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.840 to figure it out today. I was like, I've seen Tron, right, Yeah, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.399 it's like, yeah, the movie with the light cycles. But 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.120 then it started to dawn on me. I never never 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.800 ever saw Tron. Oh my god. So I watched it 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:45.840 today in full uh, and we should talk about it. Okay, 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.679 what was your first like Tron experience? Do you remember 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:50.760 seeing it in the theater? I don't remember my first 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.320 time seeing it. I really don't. I don't. I couldn't 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:57.360 tell you if I saw VHS. Um, well, I could 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.000 have seen it in the theater. I mean it's a 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.520 Disney movie number one, yeah, but I mean you know 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.880 I would have. I mean I was what six, Um, 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.679 I think I probably saw in the theater. And the 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.280 reason is that like rocked my world. And so I 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.520 can't imagine that I would have seen it on VHS 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:22.720 for the first time. Um uh I. I maintain to 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.200 this day that it was so far ahead of its time, 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.840 so far ahead of time, and it is pretty peculiar 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.040 and amazing that it's a Disney movie. I think it's 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.840 it's worth like it's of note for that reason and itself. 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.120 Um I don't play video games. I'm not a game 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.960 at all, so it has nothing to do for me 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:45.160 with like I didn't I never played no No No. 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.520 I mean I would play like handheld pac Man games, 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.320 like at my friend's houses, and I played whatever, like 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.560 PC learning games my dad got me that. We're like, 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:58.320 I don't even think I had an Oregon trail that 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.600 that was more advanced than I didn't even have Arizona 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.680 Trail truck. I'm talking about. The only thing you think 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.720 of right now was a game called spell It that 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:12.280 was a spelling game that involved a frog who the 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:16.120 little tongue would come out and like lick it would 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.120 lick and absorb the letters after you spelled something correctly. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.720 That was like your prize. How old were you? I 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.720 mean it was little. This wasn't like fifteen years old. 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.440 I mean it was like, you know, when you're year old, 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.040 two year old, maybe like this was when it was 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.520 you know, still like it was shocking that there was 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.720 any kind of a game to be played, So probably 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.680 around six years old or something. Yeah, and liken' listen. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:43.200 Some of the words would get pretty tricky. I don't 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:44.919 want you to think that it was like a sugar 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:52.000 and cat frogs frogs are hungry maybe a long word. So, uh, 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:55.919 arcade games that got you in there, not at all? No, 0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:02.879 um No. I just loved the world of it. I 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.719 loved I and to this like I would have dreams 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.760 about it. I still sometimes have dreams about it. Yeah, 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:13.080 that I'm inside the game grid um and uh. And 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:14.880 I think part of the reason that I didn't play 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.959 the arcade games is that because I saw the movie first, 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.720 the arcade games were just see flat, two dimensional things, 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.120 and the whole point was like, but no, that don't 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.560 understand these games exist for regular people to play. I'm 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.480 a user, I should, but I should be inside the game. 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.600 That's the only way I want to experience it. Is 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:36.000 like viscerally with my cute uniform on. And uh and 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.800 I love the music. The music again totally ahead of 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:42.119 its time and crazy and weird and great um and 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.680 uh and without Now we'll get into the kind of 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.119 the sentimentality of it, which was that my dad also 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:53.320 loved it, and we would play this game at night 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:58.439 like when yeah, when I was this is why you 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.280 love trying to suck out, just closed the door behind me. 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:04.720 We had um an alarm system in the house where 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:06.760 you know, you have the motion detector and the little 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.400 red light blinks when there's motion. And then we also 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.240 had like you know, everything digital, so like our micro 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.600 wave was digital, or all our VCRs clocks, all that 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.560 kind of stuff was digital. And that's all yeah, so 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:22.480 that's all great. So and our house was this little 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.639 tiny three bedroom house, but it you could go in 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:27.639 a complete circle around it, right, so you could come 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:29.800 in the front door, you could go through the living room, 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.920 turn left, go down the hallway where all the bedrooms were, 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:36.080 go back into the back room, and then that reconnected 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.119 with the kitchen that reconnected with the front room, so 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.119 you can go in a full circle. And there was 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:45.919 there was zero atria nor koi pond uh. And so 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.880 my dad would we would play this game where we 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:50.520 were inside the game where we would turn off all 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:54.080 the lights in the house, and he would when I 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.080 was really when I was a little like I guess 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.200 six or whatever, because I would have that's as little 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:00.920 as I would have been able to be. He would 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.840 kind of hold me Superman style, UM, and we would 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.399 like scoot around the house and we would be trying 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.760 to avoid um Sark and like all the bad guys, 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.159 and so if we were trying to creep past the 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.520 motion detectors, I mean, listen, it was a great would 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:17.560 be great training for me if I'd become an expert 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.760 cat burglar. We would be we would kind of get 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.600 as far as we could before we would see a 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:22.840 light and then we would see the red light. We'd 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:24.960 be like they see us, the recognizers, and then we'd 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.439 like run into the next room like like you know. 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.119 And so to this day, I'm not afraid of that, 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.040 Like I've never been afraid of the dark, because I 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:36.160 only equate the total darkness with playing Tron And Yeah, 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.920 and it was this like super great cool game that 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.919 my dad made up that was legitimately like kind of 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.720 scary and exciting, and it made me feel like I 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:49.399 was inside that game grid And then at Disneyland, UM 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.080 we would go to Disneyland every summer. My dad would Um. 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.000 We had friends who lived in La Canada, which is 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:57.920 kind of like Pasadena area, and he would because of 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.200 the Arizona summers, he would wake me up up. He 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.360 would he would take a nap, like he would sort 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:03.920 of sleep for a couple of hours, and then he 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.199 would get up in the middle of the night and 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.560 wake me up and put me in a sleeping bag 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.760 in the covered cab of our Dots and truck which 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:16.000 was carpeted and uh, and he'd be like he would 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:17.560 wake me up at you know, say two or three 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:19.600 in the morning, say like, miss Jay, are you ready 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:23.080 to go to Disneyland? And I was like and then 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:24.560 and so then I would get into the car and 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:26.560 fall asleep, and then I would wake up and we 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.399 would be almost there, and then I would kind of 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.840 clamber through the little window and then come sit with 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.040 my dad and um, and then we would get there. 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.760 And then at Disneyland they had the people Mover, which 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.800 one little tiny sliver of the People Mover was that 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.040 you would go inside this kind of room that they 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.240 had just put Yeah, they just all it was was 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.960 movie screens, but you would be on the people mover 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.359 and then suddenly you would be on the game grid 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.639 and they recognized were coming, almost squash you, and then 0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.280 you would go inside the light cycle maze. So again, 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.000 no interest in the arcade game I did. I was like, 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.560 I just want to live here full time. So, um, 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:08.400 those are all like very they're very deep embedded childhood 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:12.520 memories for me. And uh, but but there's nothing about 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.200 the movie now when I watch it, it means every 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.119 bit as much to me. There's no There are plenty 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.399 of movies that I loved that I can't. I can 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.480 sort of go, what does it hold up? I'm not 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.840 able to see if it doesn't hold up, Like you 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:27.680 just watched up for the first time. So your experience 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.320 was your experience, and I totally respect that. But I 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:34.040 it's I mean, I've brainwashed myself. I've still watched it 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.520 and think, God, this is ahead of its time. God, 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:40.359 this is good. It's so good. Well it was ahead 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:42.879 of its sign because it was in a little research 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:46.200 today it is um it was one of the very 0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:52.600 first movies to use computer animation at all. And who's 0:25:52.600 --> 0:26:00.320 the director. The director is Stephen Liz Burger. Oh you 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:10.760 nailed it earlier, Peter, I think, ye the Giants Stephen 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.399 Lisberger and he, uh, it was kind of a not 0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.119 kind of it was a passion project for him, like 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.080 he thought of this world and was ahead of his 0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.600 time and couldn't get anyone to make it and like 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.800 sunk his own money into like test shots, and we 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:28.520 took it around to the studios and was like, look 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.520 at what I have. Look at this amazing thing. And 0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.399 I was like, man, I don't know about that. And 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.120 finally Disney took a flyer and said, all right, we'll 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.680 give you like ten million bucks or whatever, which was 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.480 huge because he wasn't in the Disney clan. He was 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.320 an outsider. And he said he always felt that way too, 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.760 which is kind of sad. But um, it was way 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.560 ahead of its time and no one knew what they 0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.160 were seeing. Like now, for someone like me to watch 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.359 it who's never seen it before, sure it might look dated, 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:59.359 but it also looks modern in a weird way, you know, 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.480 like especially the stuff with the and I didn't know, 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.639 but they really shot in black and white the characters 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:10.439 and did this rotoscoping process and that because of how 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.840 they had to do it painstaking. That ends up looking 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.520 kind of cool. Now, yeah, it looks fantastic and all 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.399 the way the city lights up at the I mean, 0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:22.640 it's all so wonderful. Also collect these um these like 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.520 at some of the kind of like hipster like Japanese 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.800 toy shops. Uh, when I was well there, you know 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.800 there are they exist in like San Francisco and Los 0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.679 Angeles and you know some of the kind of certainly 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.680 on the western coast cities. Um there was a place 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:42.800 in San Francisco that's sold the They're called Kubrick of course, 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.359 um just I'm saying that because of course it's named 0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:50.120 after something also equally like Nichian hip where they would 0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:55.760 do these limited edition lines of toys from beloved movies 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.399 like that, and so they I have these really cool 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.959 they almost look like um like mobile like m I 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.720 is the um um O b I L or those 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.320 or those little people. It's just a little kind of 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:09.840 like Lego people. So they sort of do look like 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.040 Lego people, but you know they're in their uniforms and 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.480 then there's a great but but the design is so 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.439 great and there's this great UM. I wish I if 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.080 we were in l A, I could have brought it 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.119 with me. But there's a recognizer that you can you 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.639 can pop the legs off and then turn the legs 0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.960 inward in the center so you can make it into 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.720 like the there's a tank that's really beautiful. But they're 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:34.159 just so well done and well made. I have the 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.680 whole set of the Kubrick stuff, and then I have 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.400 like a scattering of the original toys that look more 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.600 like you know, Star Wars figures or whatever. Um, yeah, 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.640 and I have I mean that's a that's a good 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:51.320 go to gift someone stuff. Yeah, And they did this 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:52.960 really cool. They had it. They showed it at the 0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.640 Arrow in Santa Monica years ago in Los Angeles and 0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.720 and Stephen the director was there, and then one of 0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:03.120 the producers and um and uh, I think Bruce box 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.760 Lightner was there, and for sure what's her name the 0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.200 woman was there and Cinny Morgan was there, and so 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.480 they all kind of talked and traded stories and talked 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.719 about it. Oh, it was so cool. And they had 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.800 a couple of you know, costumes from there. And and 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.400 I hate Tron legacy, like nothing that came after Tron. 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:19.840 Do I have any respect for what's it? Well, I 0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.200 didn't see Tron Legacy, and I didn't I think there 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.800 was even a TV show. I'm not sure. Yeah, there 0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.240 was something in between that between the two main big 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.760 Tron movies. But see, now that I've seen Tron at all, 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.880 the idea I know what the idea of Tron Legacy was. 0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.720 It seems like a great idea that like this this 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:43.800 Jeopard his son has now come back. Now. Yeah, and 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.680 it doesn't even look I can't. I can't. I didn't 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.840 capture the spirit of the original at all, and not 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.840 to me. To me, it's just this sort of empty, soulless. 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.640 It just doesn't feel like and it doesn't do anything 0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.520 from me at all. I see why they did it, though, 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.560 you know, like Tron was so out of its time, 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.240 and like now they have the technology and to make 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:06.760 a new and I like Garrett Headlin. Yeah, um, but 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.080 I don't know. I mean I never saw it because 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.760 I didn't see But also and I saw it only 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.040 once I saw it, I'll Copy Town. I mean I went, 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:17.320 I went hoping it would be great. You know el 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.480 copy Town you don't know was on Hollywood Boulevard and 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.480 it's Disney's big theater and they have sometimes live that 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:27.160 you came in fourhand. It's really it's a beautiful place, um, 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:28.960 and that was the right thing to do to see 0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.800 it there. I can barely remember what it was about 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.640 out front. I wish I bet no, No, I don't 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.040 think they had. They might have had some costumes from 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:40.880 the then who cares because it's from the new stuff. 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.320 Why is ass enough? Right? Jeff Bridges character, he returns 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:51.720 in different variations of himself stuff. Yeah, and uh, he's 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.400 humorless from what I can remember. And Olivia Wild, Olivia Wild, 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.640 she's lovely but like she's everybody was just humorless. And 0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.520 that was the I mean, the whole point. So much 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:06.840 of Tron is Jeff Bridges being a complete why that smart, 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:11.520 infuriating sark, which I mean obviously that's um played by uh, 0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:16.280 don't tell me um David. Yes, I always forget his name, 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:17.560 even though I love him and he's one of the 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.720 great bad guys. Yeah, A Man with Two Brains is 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:21.720 very close to the the top of my favorite movie. But 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.400 if you have a podcast, Sam Levine and that is 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.640 his favorite. So I really struck that from the list 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.400 because I knew Sam would want to talk about with 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.640 two Brains. I could talk about that all day long. 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.440 Um year, you know, yeah, David, No, no, no, it 0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.040 did not. Dead Men Don't Wear a Platt came out 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.680 that year. Sorry I can't remember his last name. David Warner. 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.760 David Warner, of course, one of the one. And you 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.200 know what's so freaky is, I don't know if you 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:44.480 do this, but you go back and watch some of 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.200 your favorite movies and then you think, wow, I'm older 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.920 than them when they meant this for sure, So Bridges 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.840 in box lightn or we're both around thirty one ish 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:56.800 when they made it. David Warner, it was five years 0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:02.120 younger than me. He was one years old ancient in 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.600 that Yeah, of course he did in our brain because 0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.800 we were kids and now and I even watched it today, 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:09.760 I was like, I look at that old, creepy guy, 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.320 these five years younger than me. Oh my god. Well 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.640 he he also has one of those faces where you're like, oh, 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.360 you're sixty twenty year old, and he wasn't you'll get 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.920 their cargo short? Wasn't it? Absolutely not? Absolutely not? And 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.000 then the and then the guy who plays Ram, and 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:28.160 then when Ram dies, yeah, it just still makes me cry. Yeah, 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.400 and the whole weird, the the whole idea of technology 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.920 and and like the gods and that sort of playing 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.920 with that kind of like theology, the idea that there 0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:42.040 would be information living inside a computer that would be 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.200 you know, that would be intelligent enough to question where 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.840 itself came from and putting all of this faith in 0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.440 the people who created it. And I mean, it's just fascinating. Well, 0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.400 that was sort of the great fear I think at 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.600 first when you know, computers became a thing, But now 0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:03.280 it's sort of a legitimate fear. You know, robots becoming 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.680 sentient master control program man. Yeah, like that's kind of 0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.160 a thing now. It was ahead of its time, but um, 0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.400 what's kind of struck me A couple of funny things. Um, 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.280 on that note, twin is it? Who is the main? 0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:19.840 Was it? Sark was talking to the David Warner character 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.720 and kind of explaining MCP, that master Control program is 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.760 the main And then Sark is like his lackey kind 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:31.360 of MP is just you can just a little confusing 0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.840 because I played CP. You just hear you hear that 0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.840 deep scary voice, but then you see it as like 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.600 a computer grid face and yeah, oh, I also have 0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.280 the toy of that. It's so cool. But um, a 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.760 couple of funny things. One is he said that, um, 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.720 he was getting involved with the Kremlin and uh who 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.640 else the Kremlin and the Pentagon because he said that 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.600 he could design things, uh nine hundred to twelve hundred 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.400 times better than any human. I just love that number range. Yeah, 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:04.160 like between nine times better. Uh. And the other thing 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.640 was the beginning and the end of the movie is 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:12.960 so weird and abrupt. How the movie starts it just 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.480 you know, it says Flynn's Arcade, which is in Culver 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:16.680 City by the way. I don't know if you've ever 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:20.000 been by that building, the whole building. Um, that's where 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.359 they shot the exterior. And um, it starts with just 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.680 a dude playing the Tron game, and then it goes 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.520 in on the Tron game and then you're in the 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.640 Tron game, and then it just starts and then and 0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.920 then it says literally says like and meanwhile in the 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.239 real world, and then this Jeff Bridges and you're like, oh, 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.160 who is this guy? And then when the movie just 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.440 it just ends like they're in the computer world. They 0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:47.279 have the big climax fight and then uh, he gets 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.600 out of a helicopter at the end and joins box 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.799 Lightner and Sydney Morgan. They're like, they hug, and that's 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:58.560 the end of the movie. I'm of there's the big 0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.960 climax is definitely in side of the game, and that's 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.279 what the movie him come back out. And then when 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.760 he comes back out, we see that he's successfully gotten 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.640 all the information that's printing out very slowly on the 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:18.759 loud printer, and then David Warner sees that no, it didn't. 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.680 Then it's like he's toast and then it's like, hey, 0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.279 we better the boss is coming, and you're right, it's Jeff. 0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.719 Don't strike me as bad filmmaking. It struck me as 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.479 such a thing of its time period, like to where 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.480 movies would end with just everyone like high fiving and 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.840 that's it. Now we have now we've been tainted in 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.000 the other direction by too many false endings. For you're like, 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.960 wait a minute, this movie, every every scene now for 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.040 the last twenty minutes has felt like the last scene Tarantino, 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.839 let's keep a clean, let's get in, get out, And 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.560 then as the lights go down in the city, not 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.680 to quote a Journey song, then how much it looks 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.600 like what else that happened in the whole building. David 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.360 Warner pretty is pretty far with through anyone. Well, Senny Morgan, 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:06.879 you know, I know her from Caddyshack. She's a fox 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:11.919 us as Lacy Underhalls, which wow, I couldn't get away 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:13.799 that today. Uh oh. And then the other thing I 0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.920 thought was neat was income as the name of the 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.280 company is like kind of one of the great evil 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.319 villain companies of all time. I think, Yeah, it sounds 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.640 like it could be anything, and that's what's so great 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.360 and terrifying about it. Yeah, I mean that's kind of 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.520 the key store and just all the stuff they're working on. 0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:33.040 The whole idea that you could, you know, use lasers 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.120 to break down the atom to the point where you 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.879 could shoot it through space. I mean, that's a little 0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.080 bit Wanta vision too. That's another movie I could have 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.399 probably said everything everything goes back to being a young 0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.480 a young person, like I don't. I think, I'm so, 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:52.440 I'm so connected to that unbridled passion that feels kind 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:57.359 of unmatchable as Yeah, I can't. So those I think 0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.480 those are all the movies that I really go back to, 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.759 because when I think about movies, I mean, you know, 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:04.719 after I saw in Bruges, I was like, this is 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.360 my favorite movie. And then I saw another movie that 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.520 I felt was my favorite movie. A year later, I 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:11.560 was like, no, this is my favorite movie. But you know, 0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.080 and Bruges is in there, the Ice Storm. I still 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:20.520 think it is like made. There's artistically, you know, intact 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:25.359 and you know, brilliant movies that would also be kind 0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.600 of in my list. But I like to say, like 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.040 I have a top It's like I have twenty five 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.160 top five movies. Yeah, you know you have like you 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.439 get twenty five, but they're all part of your top five. 0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.560 But I did to think of a segment today that 0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:39.600 I'm gonna do for everyone, which is, oh, you asked 0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:43.040 me to remember some think about maybe something more like 0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:46.920 guilty Pleasures. We'll do that later, okay, And by later, 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:51.920 I mean okay, uh, this is a segment. Maybe we'll 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.320 getting old to do some cool music for this called 0:37:54.719 --> 0:38:02.600 what Ebert said this movie is a complete okay, all right, 0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.520 because I thought he's awa. I mean, there's plenty of 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.239 legendary film critics, but he's always been my favorite. Absolutely 0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.799 he gave well what do you think? First of all? Now, 0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:11.840 do you have any idea Listen. I want to believe 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.759 that he was on board and that he understood how 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.520 special and important it was, and that he thought to himself, 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.360 Janet Varney will one day name this is her favorite movie. 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:22.840 But I don't feel like it got particularly good reviews, 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:24.680 and I don't think it did particularly well, so I 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.200 and he was pretty influential at the time, so I'm 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.359 prepared for him to have given it a thumbs down. 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:36.360 Eber loved it. He gave it four stars and a 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.839 thumbs up, and he says, uh, it was a technological 0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.520 sound and light show that is sensational and brainy, stylish 0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.960 and fun. Oh good, And then he went on to 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.680 rape about the special effects. He said that the holy 0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.719 imaginary worlds of Toron are so cleverly composed that I 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.480 never ever got the sensation that I was watching some 0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.880 actors stand in front of or in the middle of 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.759 special effects. Never And I think you see that so 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.239 much more today. You can really feel the sort of 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:10.799 flatness because you can do anything and screen. It's really hard. Yeah, No, 0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.000 I felt like I can't again. I feel like they 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.120 were all there, They were all there living in that world. 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.040 They're starting to get it right though, Like did you 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:23.520 see the Jungle Book? Yes, yeah, like that was amazing, 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.040 It really was. But for a while they're people kind 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.960 of went nuts. Well even still, even with like Fantastic Beasts, 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.319 for example, I just I feel so strongly that I 0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.120 can see like Eddie Redmain sort of looking at his 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.600 finger where something is supposed to be, and I just 0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.720 I'm so aware it's not there. I'm so painfully aware 0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.400 it's not there. I don't know about that finger scene, 0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.319 but well, I know what you're talking about. Like when 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:50.120 there's a lot of mystical fun toy things around, Well, 0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:54.200 the eyelines never right. It's always, even with all the 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.399 technology they're of, just enough to where it looks like 0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.640 the Three Company episode where Jack's twin visits, you know, 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:05.279 which I don't think it ever happened. Um. And the 0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:09.200 lasting here is I looked up the movies of nineteen 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.120 eighty two mainly because I was like, why didn't I 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.520 see this? What was I going to see? So I 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.920 can know now what was what else was two? Well? Yeah, 0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.359 and it's is a powerhouse of stuff. Well, movies back 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.200 then we're amazing. Yeah, and this is just like when 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:24.839 you look at the list of movies that are out 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:28.239 in seventeen and then this list. It's it makes you 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:34.399 want to cry because two Blade Runner, Ship Et the Thing, 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.799 Fast Times to Reach My High, Poultergeist, Wrath of con 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:45.880 Tutsie hands down. Probably Blade Runner to Tutsie was just 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:50.960 a a March release in nineteen eighty two. It wasn't 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:53.960 like Oscar season's coming up, like that's where it would 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:58.000 be slotted today. Is blowing my mind? Uh did I 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.319 say Fast Times, Reach High? Forty eight hours, Officer and 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:05.120 a Gentleman Annie? Oh my god? First Blood very big 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:10.520 for me, The Dark Crystal Gandhi Rocky three. Never say 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:12.880 Rocky three was very big for me, but I did 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.600 see Rocky three. That's where my priorities. Like, I mean, 0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:17.239 there are a couple of movies that I wouldn't say, like, 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:18.640 oh my god, this is so great, but they were 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:22.280 big for me, Like this Beast Master was it was great. 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.640 But then Sophie's Choice World according to Garp, my favorite year, 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.600 the Secret of nim Diner year, Like this is just 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:35.759 a smattering. This isn't all the movie crazy in Hollywood 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.520 in the early eight I mean I could comfortably pick 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.200 some of my all time favorite movies. Just out of that, 0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:44.960 you could stop Blade Runner, Et The Thing and Poultergeist, 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.520 and you could say, and no other movies were made 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:49.680 that year, and it would be like one of the 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.560 great years. The Thing I just saw on the big 0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:55.080 screen at the arc Light and it beyond holds up. Yah, 0:41:55.719 --> 0:42:00.720 that's amazing and super gruesome. Yeah, really gross. John Carpenter 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.839 the Man. Yeah, and well he did all his still 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:07.040 does all his on music. It's great. Yeah. Um, any 0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.279 finishing thoughts on Tron, I love it, thumbs up, I 0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.440 love you, Tron. I know that you're a movie even 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:15.680 though you were also a character in the movie named Tron. 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:17.840 But I just wanted I mean I was for the 0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.400 longest time. I was like, if I have kids, I'm 0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.239 naming my kid Flynn, no matter whether it's a boy 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:25.919 or No. I wouldn't name that no, because I really 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:30.840 love m Yeah, that'd be a funny name. Michael Chadwick Peterson. 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.880 It's just so good. I could call him MCP. That 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.960 would be a pretty slick move. Um. But Tron was 0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:41.040 a character, but also the name of the security system, 0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:45.680 that's right, the box lightner was program. Yeah, exactly, No, 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.759 one just got up and I walked in. My walked 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.479 He's done. That's what was confusing to me a little 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.600 bit about the movie, So all the different characters playing, 0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.239 but that's It's like, but that's what it's about, dumb. 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.160 It was invented the program Tron, so that's what Tron 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.160 looked like. Tron looked like his user, and then Flynn 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.960 designed a ton of stuff. So that's why I like 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.080 when you go inside the beginning of the movie in 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.760 the tank, that's Flynn too, because he designed that program 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.680 in the tank. What about this scene with when they 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:21.440 when Cyndy Morgan and when Lacey under als and and 0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:26.279 the scarecrow. First he was a scarecrow, right, he was? 0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:29.160 He certainly wasn't as scarc I never saw that show, 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:33.279 but I just did the match real quick, like, um, 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:34.920 they walk in the first time they go to see 0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:39.520 Jeff Bridges or Flynn, excuse me, and he's so overly 0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:43.160 sweaty from playing the video game. At first, I was like, 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.040 is he really that sweaty? Because the armpit sweats like 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.480 out to his chest. Then his chest was sweaty through 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.920 the shirt. It's like, why are they doing that? And 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:53.320 he goes up and takes off his shirt, and I 0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.480 was like, I think that's exactly why they did it. Yeah, 0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:57.240 he takes off one shirt and puts on a different 0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:00.160 shirt and they're both Flynn's video game like it's it. 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.560 But he takes it off in front of her because 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.840 they used to date. And then he had that sly 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.719 line about leaving the house messy or whatever, and then 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:12.440 she practically shoves Bruce box Lighter on the couch because 0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:16.839 of the quip about her leaving her house messy relationships? 0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:21.680 Am I right? I say that Toron is a go 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:27.160 to to understand relationships between the two people who care 0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.080 about each other. No, probably not, but maybe between man 0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.200 and computer, between man and computer, between a bit and 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:38.800 a program for that a little bit. No, Janet Varney, 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:43.040 thanks for coming into the pleasures. Yeah, yeah, you're right. 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:47.520 You've been doing this podcast for one hour in life 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:52.200 and you don't remember the bold I have clothes with 0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:58.160 guilty pleasure? All right, what's your guilty pleasure? Let program? Well, 0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:00.200 I did think about it because I didn't want it 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:03.279 to be a thing. Listen, First of all, how dare you? 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:05.120 And I said that in our text too, I said 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.399 don't you even pretend like my favorite movie can also 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:08.840 be a guilty pleasure. I will never call it a 0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.239 guilty pleasure. But I was trying to think because I thought, 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.080 I want to want to have some pretentious luck like 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:15.960 you said, where someone's like, my guilty pleasure is the Godfather. 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.160 Shut up. Um. But it's kind of hard because I 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.719 don't have a lot of the like, oh, I know. 0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:24.880 This is the same with reality television stuff like that. 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.359 I can't. I don't find that I have a lot 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.960 of like this is delicious, and I know I shouldn't, 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.200 but here I watch, you know, I feel I get 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.840 really impatient with stuff that this isn't good. So I 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.360 was trying to think of things that, um, that I 0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.400 would watch anyway, and I think I actually wrote a 0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:41.760 couple of them down. I know for sure that recently 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:45.720 on planes, I can't stop watching movies about horses, which 0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.280 was never something I cared about, but all of a sudden, 0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.439 Sea Biscuit seems like the best movie I've ever seen. 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.800 I watched Secretariat. Secretariat. They didn't have well, this is Delta, 0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:55.520 and they have some old movies that you can watch. 0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.240 I hadn't gotten to the horse Whisper, which I've never seen. 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:04.480 I probably won't watch war Horse, but suddenly suddenly I need, like, uh, 0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.319 feel good horse movies when I'm on a plane, because 0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.319 I'm too tired to enjoy anything else. So feel good 0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:14.360 horse movies. Apparently that's a new thing. Um. And then 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:17.239 I also admitted to like beauty. Did you see that? 0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:20.880 When you're a kid? Give a crap? I didn't give 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.360 a crap about horse movies. I did see The Black Stallion. 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:27.080 I barely remember it. Last Unicorn. That was a tough one. Um, 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.279 I will always, but I did, especially because I know 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.000 you like Jaws so much. I feel the same way 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:36.840 about Jaws. And I will see no but a shark movie, 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:42.040 not Sharknado, not like intentionally campy shark movies. But I 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.960 will give almost any shark based movie a chance. And 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:49.359 I love the movie Deep Bluesy. I love it. I 0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.640 love it. I've watched it. I've seen it so many times. 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:54.640 If it's on I will watch it till the end. 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.839 I love it. I liked how unabashedly schlocky it was. Yeah, 0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:02.000 it knew what it was and so it camped out 0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:05.080 in a good way. But it was genuinely, still very 0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:08.400 scary to me, even though the sharks got smarter because 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.040 they were injecting them with some sort of growth hormones 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:15.320 that they could cure Alzheimer's. That's a side effect the 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:19.560 shop Scott smart. The sharks got smarter, Chuck. That was 0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:22.000 the big pull line from the trailer. I remember that, 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:26.720 and I was so star struck when uh, my friend Oscar, uh, 0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:28.880 we were going to dinner with Oscar and Ursla, or 0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:30.680 are dear friends of ours? And he said, I hope 0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.839 you don't mind, our friends are gonna be joining us. 0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:36.960 And it was the shark. It was the shark. No, 0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:39.600 it was Saffron Burrows. And I I said, I in 0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:42.160 a million years, I never thought I would meet Saffron Burrows. 0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:44.680 Not a person that I think I traveled the same 0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:47.600 circles with. Its very excited that I got to meet 0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:54.120 Saffron Burrows and it was everything you thought. It was wonderful. Yeah, 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.279 she's just great. That was her line, wasn't it The 0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:01.279 sharks smart? Yeah, she made those sharks smarter, she made 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:04.000 those she put us all at risk. She got Sam 0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:08.200 Jackson munched. That's a great moment that was snatches him 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:10.840 I feel that that moment. I can't think of having 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.080 seen that anywhere before that movie, and I feel like 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.160 I've seen it a million times since. Yeah, and like 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.880 Snakes on a Plane was a direct descendant of of 0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.040 Deep Blue Seed. Yeah, because I think Deep Blue Seed, 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:23.360 I don't. I don't think they were. Was that Renny 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:27.560 Harlan is it? Was it? Gosh, I don't know if 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.319 it was. It might be I might be making that up. 0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:34.319 It was not Stephen Lisberger because he didn't direct anything else. Yeah, 0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:36.719 he was like a Silicon Valley nerd who just went 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.360 right back to do with a couple of things. His 0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:41.759 claim to fame was animaniacs before. That's how he got 0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:47.920 a little juice in the industry. Oh yeah, Animaniac scread 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:54.879 and dough swinging Johnson. So anyway, those are a couple 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:58.440 of my pusure geldy pleasures. And I also, um, this 0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:00.759 is probably too far on the side. This popped in 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:02.279 my mind. It was the first thing that popped in 0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:04.680 my mind. And I and that doesn't mean that it's accurate, 0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:06.560 But for some reason, the first thing I thought it 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:10.359 was Intolerable Cruelty with Love, that movie with Kevin Zada 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.400 Jones and and George Clooney. And I think the reason 0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:16.359 I classify it as a guilty pleasure is because I 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.600 somehow know I'm supposed to not like it because it's 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:23.200 not full Cohen Brothers. Yes, and so I'm I've been 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.520 told it's terrible, do you know what I mean? Like 0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:29.040 the society has told me it's terrible, unlike over the 0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.960 worl out there or whatever, and so but that's so, 0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:33.480 that was what the first thing that popped in mind. 0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:35.400 I love that movie. Yeah, I don't like when people 0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:39.919 I think there's two Cohen Brothers tears, and I love 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.520 that second tier when they're clearly just having a good 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:46.160 time making a comedy. I love those movies, yeah, like 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:51.400 Intolerable Cruelty and the one I really love is uh 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:55.239 Man with with Brad Pitt and Cluney Burn. After reading Burn, 0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:58.360 after reading I think that I think I hated that 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.080 when I saw it, and now I like it. And 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.120 I didn't love Hale Caesar, And I'm wondering if in 0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.000 a couple of years maybe I'll love that too, because 0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.480 maybe it I was fine with it. Yeah, would that 0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:11.120 it were that simple? Is like maybe laughed so hard 0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:14.560 so good. But think is another one where I'm like, 0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:16.840 is that one of the all time greatest movies probably 0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:19.560 probably has one of the all time greatest endings of 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:25.000 any movie about an ending. Yeah, and that I saw that. 0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:26.719 That that's kind of one of my friends and minds 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:28.880 from college favorite movie. So we watched it saw in 0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:32.279 the theater, then watch it obsessively in college. And he 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.319 went on to be friends with Tony Shalub, who, like 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:38.040 in real life, I r L and he was so 0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:41.040 good in that yea, so good. Yeah and that little 0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:44.040 part and everything. How do you feel do you feelers 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:47.040 went well? I think let's have a postmortem on on camera. 0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:50.680 It went great. I might do a little solo postmortem, 0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:54.280 not tonight because I have to go to bed, because 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:59.319 it's like, um no, I think it went great. The 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.759 pilot episode like how I jammed in like eight of 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.040 my other favorite movies, and so I think that's kind 0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:06.560 of takes them. I still was the first one to say, yeah, 0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.480 that's kind of the point though. Screw you. Sam Levine's right, 0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:15.239 Sam Man with Two Brains is really great. I could 0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.000 quote the hell out of that movie. You know, kind 0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:19.480 of a real dork, what for that? Movie. Yeah, I 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:21.400 just on my favorite movie that everything I'm naming is 0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.520 just so dorky. But well, you went after tron Hard 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:27.560 and now that I know the whole story behind it, 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.759 like it's really it's a it's a real thing. Yeah, 0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:34.160 it's I get it. You weren't seeking a NERD credit 0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:39.920 or anything like that. No, no, no, let's ask you 0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:43.400 to back off that for a second. Untrue. Um no, 0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:45.600 this is great, all right. Well, thanks for coming in, 0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.000 Janet Barney for sure number one. Thanks Chuck, here I go, 0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.360 I guess, I guess. I ran away only after the 0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:06.759 dr was closed. Man, that was just I'm just so 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:09.040 excited about the show. That could not have gone any better. 0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.840 A new Janet was a great choice as guest number 0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:15.880 one because she's, um, well she's a professional podcaster herself 0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:18.440 and does interviews herself, so she knows how to how 0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.920 to keep the conversation going like a real pro. So, um, 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:24.760 that was just a lot of fun. Janet. Her feelings 0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:28.759 on tron were, Um, I was kind of wondering what 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.200 to expect on why that was her favorite pick, and 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.799 it was very heartwarming to know to me that that 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:38.280 was a movie that she and her dad uh, bonded 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:39.840 over and it was a very special film from her 0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.400 childhood because of the cute little Tron game that she 0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:45.000 used to play with her dad. So as we go 0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.080 on with Movie Crush, I think it'll be super interesting 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.680 to see, uh, sort of the why behind why people 0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:55.040 pick these favorite movies. And I suspect that moving forward, 0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.520 we're gonna get quite a few that have a lot 0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.040 of sentimental value, and that is certainly the case with 0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:04.560 Janet here in Tron and Stand Against Evil, guys, I 0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.680 am so excited. I love season one. Janet is so 0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:10.680 funny and it everyone's just great. And season two actually 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:15.360 premiered yesterday, uh in real time, So November one premiered 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:18.120 on i f C. Check it out Stand Against Evil 0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:22.280 season two. It's wonderful, and check out j V Club, 0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:26.839 the j V Club podcast where Janet interviews um people 0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:29.479 about their embarrassing high school years. It's really really good show. 0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:32.680 So thanks to Janet for her time and until next week, 0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:40.840 Well would kill you to spare a little popcorn? Maybe? 0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:46.680 Movie Crush is produced, edited, engineered, and scored by Noel 0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:50.960 Brown from our podcast studio at Pond City Market, Atlanta, Georgia.