1 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, and welcome to Movie Crush. This is Chuck 2 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Bryant and this is episode one. Very excited to welcome everyone. 3 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: If you're coming over from stuff you should know, then 4 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: thanks for your support. If you're just a movie fan 5 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: in general and happened upon this, then uh, welcome as 6 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: well into our studio here at Pont City Market in Atlanta, Georgia. So, guys, 7 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I am so excited about this show. I'm so excited 8 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: about episode one because Janet Varney, i gotta say, is 9 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: probably the best Episode one guest and all the podcast history. 10 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: She's a she's a pal of mine. I met Janet Um. 11 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: I met Janet a few years ago at her comedy 12 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: festival that she co created many years ago, Sketch Fest 13 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: in San Francisco every January, and for for my money, 14 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: it's the best comedy festival in the land. And she's 15 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: been kind enough to ask Josh and I'd have performed 16 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: there for the past few years and it's become a 17 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: little tradition for us. And Janet is just awesome. She 18 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: is a very, very talented actress. She's a gifted improv comedian, 19 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: and she's smart and funny and just as kind of 20 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: a soul as you would ever hope to meet. So 21 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: she was here shooting in Atlanta, so I had her 22 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: in the studio, which is great. She was shooting season 23 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: two of her awesome, awesome show on if C, Stand 24 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Against Evil, which actually just premiered yesterday on i f C. 25 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: Season two just premiered, so check that out. It's uh, 26 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: it's a really great show. It's the It's Dana Gould's 27 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: comic take on The Zombie Show, which, uh, if you 28 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, bene season one and then check out 29 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: season two on i f C right now. Uh. So, anyway, 30 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Janet was here shooting that. And the last thing that 31 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: people want to do when they're shooting a TV show 32 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: and the hot, hot summer of Atlanta, working a lot 33 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: of nights, is to come in and record a silly 34 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: old podcast. But Janet is a pal and very loyal 35 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: person and friend, and so she was. She was great. 36 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: She came in here, We killed it. We talked about 37 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: the movie Tron, the original obviously from the Disney picture 38 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: with Jeff Bridges and Bruce Box Lightner, Sindey Morgan, David Warner, 39 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: written and directed by Steven Lisberger. Way Ahead of its time. 40 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: We both agreed, and um, this is episode one. And 41 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: you'll notice here this was such an early episode that 42 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: as we get started here, uh, in our conversation, I 43 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: didn't even have a title for movie Crush yet. But 44 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: then I did get a title from my good good 45 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: friend in real life, Scott Ippolito. Scott's one of my 46 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: best friends, and I threw it out to him and said, hey, 47 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: what should I call this thing? And I gave him 48 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: the the idea and he went, how about movie crush? 49 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: And it was just that simple. So we we talked 50 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: a little bit about that at first, which was kind 51 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: of fun. So here we go with Janet Varney and Tron. 52 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: This show is so new, I don't have a title 53 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: for it. This is very exciting. Should we just spend 54 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the whole time trying to figure out where the title is? Well, 55 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: it's funny. I was gonna call it like something dumb 56 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: and on the notes, like my favorite movie, but then 57 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want people to think it's 58 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: my favorite movie? About what about what's your favorite movie? 59 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: Notable person? And that's a bad title. So but all 60 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: those variations of all those things were taken, and that's 61 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: the thing about podcasting, and someone can do a show 62 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: for a month eight years a go and it's sort 63 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: of taken. Yeah, Like if you go to start something up, 64 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: they could always say, hey, I had that first story. Yeah, 65 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: when I've started my podcast, uh, which is now and 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: has always been the j V Club to the Public, 67 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: which is one of the greatest names ever. By the way, 68 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: that worked out. That worked out for me. I'm glad 69 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: about that. But I was originally and maybe that's for 70 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: the best, because this other I was going to call 71 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: I was a teenage podcast with this sort of you know, 72 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 1: like sixties era monster movie kind of theme to it. 73 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: But someone had a had had had a podcast where 74 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: they did a handful of episodes a couple of years 75 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: back called I was a teenage podcast. So I had 76 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: to throw that away. Those people the worst, the ones 77 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: that starts something and don't succeed, and then they're like 78 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: give me, like all of us, like all of us 79 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: at one point, all right, listen, here's some I do improve. 80 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: I surely can come up with some. My first instinct 81 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: was to suggest Chuck's Flicks instead of chicks Flicks, like 82 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: chick flicks, and then I thought it could be called 83 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: chucks flux. That's they won't know what it just sings. 84 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: My friend. I did ask my friend, who's great at 85 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: titling things, and he said, what about the confession stand Oh, 86 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: the concessions. But then that sounds like you really are 87 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: getting into it. Well, but it also sounds like it 88 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: would be just about guilty pleasures exactly, like you have 89 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: to confess that, and no one would confess like I 90 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: gotta say, like the Godfather's my favorite, right, don't tell anyone? Yeah, 91 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: something to say with pride. So I'm kind of big 92 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: ground at zero right now. I have no idea. And 93 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: then I thought about something like like um Psycho Psycho's 94 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: Godfather's and street cars named desire, like something big and 95 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: grand that just sounds like the title of a book. 96 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: Well then has a coal and after it, well, no, 97 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: it was. There was that book about movies called Stole It. 98 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: There was a book about seventies filming and called Easy 99 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Writers and Raging Bulls, which I was like, I can 100 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: just rip that off, but I guess I can't because 101 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: that's the first said. And you don't even know the book. 102 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: It's a coffee table book. Without me knowing it's a 103 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: coffee table book. Well it later, okay, but what is 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: your bringing that up? Because now that's just going to 105 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: eat away and everything I would have said, I'm just 106 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: going to only be thinking about. But now you're just 107 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: gonna text me in the show I've got for sure, 108 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: I'll come up with a and then I'll put it 109 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: on a T shirt for you, like you did with 110 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: Benecker and his great dream joke, which we can't spoil. Uh, 111 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: did you were you like, did you go to movies 112 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: a lot when you were a kid, because I know 113 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about your life because of your own 114 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: show in Arizona. Yeah, movies are very that's right. I 115 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: guess they can finally talk. But did you go to 116 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: the movies a ton like I did? That's definitely one 117 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: of the things that you can do in uh smallish 118 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: city in Arizona when the summer is just brutal and 119 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: there's nothing to be done outside really like literally exactly. 120 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: I have so many memories of like just the fold 121 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: out car, Like no one uses those anymore, I guess 122 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: because windows are better, or maybe they still do in Arizona. 123 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you still have the sunshades that sort of opened. 124 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: But we just had those folding we just like folding cardboards. 125 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: Some of them, the fore fancying made the car look 126 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: like they were in sunglasses. Sure, sure, but that was 127 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: vitally important, as was trying to find any place in 128 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: the shade, because so many times I would get seatbelt burns. 129 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: Would have you that's one of the highest places on 130 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: the planet carpeted dashboards because of that. Yeah, two, there's 131 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean, those are the moments where you really do think, 132 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: and you really think, how how I can barely survive here? 133 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: And we have all the technology and the idea that 134 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: the only reason we're here is because people have been 135 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: dealing with this heat for a couple of years, that 136 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: that there's even survivable beyond you know, free having car shades. 137 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: I imagine every time I drove to l A through 138 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: that desert and then I would eventually get get cross 139 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: over into the l A basin and that cool breeze hits. 140 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: I used to think about, like the settlers, what they 141 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: must have thought, those who pressed on, Yeah, like, well 142 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: this is clearly where I'm gonna live. But if you 143 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: stop in Yuma and go I think this is the 144 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: best we're gonna get. Guys, we're not going any further west, 145 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: just a screw us. Yeah. So the movie theater obviously 146 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: as a respite, Yeah, very much so, So you would 147 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: go see whatever I feel like I would, I mean 148 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: like we we dropped off by the parents, that kind 149 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: of Yeah. I would get dropped off by my parents 150 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: for sure. Um there you know. Then I would take 151 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: the bus. I saw a lot of movies by myself. 152 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: Oh for sure that the public bus. Of the movies, 153 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: yeah you bet, Um they're my My dad's house is 154 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: right in between two malls that have movie theaters. So 155 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: that was there's a really easy couple of straight line 156 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: go twos on the bus to see movies. And um, 157 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: and I have very I do have very specific memories 158 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: of seeing certain movies and and I can sort of 159 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: put them in context. And then there are other movies. 160 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you bus movies not bus Well, no, 161 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that, like for example, when I did. Um. 162 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: Craig Atkowski has a podcast where it is just us 163 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: talking about his movie. He likes to talk about his 164 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: old list of his favorite movies and his wife Carlos 165 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: on it and I, uh, because they go in order. 166 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: I happened to Get Dead Poets Society. And that was 167 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: a movie that I could remember. I could remember everything about, 168 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: like going into l con Mall and seeing it and 169 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: then feeling that my life had changed, and I cried 170 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: so hard that I had to wait until they were 171 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: they kicked me out as they were sweeping their popcorn off. Um. 172 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: That was a heavy movie for people that, like, you're 173 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: a few years younger than me, but I well quite 174 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: a few actually, Um, but just to be a teen 175 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: or and or a young teen and seeing that movie, 176 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: that's like heavy stuff to process. Absolutely, you know. Yeah, 177 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: although yes, and then I feel like shortly after that 178 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: I got into like even darker stuff because you have 179 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: to go through that phase in high school where well 180 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: you sort of love a coffer for orange and yeah, 181 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: and like eraser Head and all that kind of stuff. 182 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: So and I'm having a lot of flashbacks to that 183 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: era because of Twin Peaks coming back and have you 184 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: been watching that? I have? What do you think? I mean? 185 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm struggling with some of it. I'm I'm struggling deeply 186 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: with some of it. Producer very into it, you're into it, 187 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: the hook line and Sinker, including this last episode. Yeah, Well, 188 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: I've been watching, and my whole deal is the Twin 189 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Peaks stuff I love and that's what it's like, five 190 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: of it and the other stuff like is total Lynch, 191 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: which is great and weird and awesome, but I kind 192 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: of wanted Twin Peaks. Yeah, um, listen, I'll say Dougie 193 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: all day long. I don't ever want I don't ever 194 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: want Colm McLaughlin to be anyone but Douggie. I love 195 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: him so much. As I will watch, Yeah, I will 196 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: watch the seven minute take of him eating potato chips, 197 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: but I don't know if I can watch the seven 198 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: minute take of X y Z all of these other 199 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: things that he's throwing in that are just they're so long. Um. 200 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: I just love lunch so much though, and like, I 201 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: just want him to be doing this stuff, like, even 202 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: if it doesn't resonate fully with me, just keep doing it. 203 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: I agree. I'm just I can't. Sometimes I feel like 204 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: he's pranking us a little bit, and sometimes I feel 205 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: like he's like they gave me final cut. I'm just 206 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: gonna do this. I'm just gonna show this for five 207 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: minutes because I can. Yeah, because I don't think it 208 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: fully makes sense in his head in a narrative way. 209 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: There are things that don't advance the story in any way, 210 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: shape or form. And the dude is like, how old 211 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: is he? And he's still that weird? Yeah, yeah, you didn't. 212 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: Interviewed him for Wired magazine and they sat down with 213 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: him and they got on really well because Brandon asked 214 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: really interesting questions and stuff like the questions that he 215 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: was supposed to ask. Probably Uh so we got all 216 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: this like fun backstory about David Lynch and the bird 217 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: that lived in his on his roof and all of 218 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: this kind of this and that the kind of stuff 219 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: that you want to hear that you want to go, 220 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Oh God, of course that's how his brain works. Um. 221 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, so lots of going to the movies when 222 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: I was younger, lots of My dad is a huge 223 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: movie fan, um, and he introduced me to a lot 224 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: of movies that I certainly wouldn't have seen as young 225 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: as I was had he not been like, I think 226 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: you're ready for this. You know, what was your first 227 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: do you remember that? I'm not sure. I'm not sure 228 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: what it was, but I know that my mom took 229 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: me to see Robocopy. You gotta be are there's no way, 230 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: that's not hard. There's some crazy violent stuff that happened 231 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: were back then. Yeah, so I don't know. And then 232 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: I and then she took me to Die Hard. Also, 233 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: my Mormon mom, who did not television at home for 234 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: some reason, wanted to take me to both of those movies. Yeah. Um, 235 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: so those were probably, I mean, those have got to 236 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: be the first our movies that I went to. I 237 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: don't know if I had seen something at home before then, 238 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: but definitely those. Yeah. Mine was my dad took me 239 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: to a war movie, the Big Red One, uh, which 240 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: was good and fine, good World War two movie. And 241 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: then the first one I ever saw, I think at 242 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: all was Escaped from New York. And I was over 243 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: at some friends house after church and they were putting 244 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: it on and I called my mom to ask if 245 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: it was okay adorable? What'd you say? Uh? Yeah, she said, 246 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: because I had called. If she had said no, you 247 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: think you would have been like, as I gonna go. Oh, now, 248 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean I certainly then and 249 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: was an m a rule follower, so I don't know 250 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: what I would have done. I like to not walk 251 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: through those stories. She said, yes, that's all that matter. 252 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: Do you know she had a good kid. What a relief. 253 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: But my dad, this is kind of really I can't 254 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: believe I'm going to say this to people out loud. 255 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: My dad took my sister to see Body Heat in 256 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: the theater, which I don't know. I can't imagine. My 257 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: dad did not go to movies ever, so I've got 258 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: to think that he had no idea what he was 259 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: going to see. He's called body Heat. It's not like 260 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: the Postman always wrings twice where you're like, oh, that 261 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: could be anything. It's probably about male It's about the U. S. 262 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: Mail system exact body heat. Yea, what do you think 263 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: it was like a thermal tracking soldiers tracking? Uh, yeah, 264 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have well, I would say I was asking 265 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: about that one day, but I'm never going to ask 266 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: him that. Maybe I ask my sister. I'll ask him. 267 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: You want me to ask him? Why didn't he Why 268 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: didn't he get up and leave the movie? Yeah? I 269 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: actually got up and left during Greece too, during the 270 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: scene where the girls were having to sleepover and their underwear. 271 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: My mom took me to see Grease and I was 272 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: so like embarrassed, I said, Mom, can we leave even 273 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: remember their underwear. I feel it wasn't just a jo 274 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: it was I was Southern Baptist, I was on ankle, 275 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: on ankle, there was a lot of refreshing going on. 276 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on. My dad let 277 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,239 Speaker 1: me watch Animal House and I was like, boobs, boobs. 278 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: So your dad was cool, yeah, he Well, that's what's 279 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: weird is he really didn't want me to see violent 280 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: stuff because he knew how sensitive us I was. But 281 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: he was like, yes, sex is fine, it's silly, it's 282 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: in you know, nomies, it's fine. Uh. And then my mom, 283 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: who again Mormon, didn't have a television, somehow wanted to 284 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: take me to see those two movies. I just don't 285 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: to this day, I don't understand. You get the violence 286 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: from your mom, I guess from your dad. Yeah, that's 287 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: great as it should be. Yeah, the American way, everything 288 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: was covered. So do you remember we're talking about Tron specifically, Yeah, 289 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: as your pick for all time favorite movies. And first 290 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: of all, I'm really bad at ranking anything anything like Yeah, 291 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what the show. But some people 292 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: really like going like I mean, again, using Craigs an example, 293 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: he loves that he has this order that shifts and 294 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: he plays with it and he kind of he knows 295 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: it any giving care but it though, Yeah, that's true. 296 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Didn't that the point? Yeah, Like, no one can anyone's 297 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: all time favorite movie on any given day, It's probably 298 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna be different. I guess, Yeah, I guess so. But 299 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: I do feel like there are people who take pride 300 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: and kind of like it helps define me. This is 301 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: my all time favorite movie, and for many is The Godfather? 302 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: How many go? How many times are gonna have to 303 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: talk about The Godfather? And are you going to tell 304 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: people if that's your favorite movie of all time? We've 305 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: talked about it three times already. Can you pick a 306 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: different one? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not going to repeat movies. 307 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't think unless it's unless there could be some 308 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: like a fresh take right now. But it's funny that 309 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: everyone I've asked so far as immediately been stressed out 310 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: about the notion of picking one and then going public 311 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: with that, because I think everyone does think it says 312 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: something about them. Yeah, well that's I think. Could I 313 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: if I really sat down and tried to pick something thing? 314 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean, someone asked me. I think actually when I 315 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: did a brief interview at the l A Podcast Festival 316 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: where we have pointing to you because we saw each 317 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: other there and you did my podcast. Um, I think 318 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: I blurted out Harold and Maud because for a long 319 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: time that was I would have I would have that 320 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: would have been the situation, like from my teens into 321 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: my twenty In my early twenties, I was proud to 322 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: say that was my favorite movie cool and and I 323 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: still love it a lot. But um, but I think 324 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: so I couldn't and I said that when I was interviewed. 325 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: Then I was like, Okay, I'll put Harold and at 326 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: the top of the list. I guess, but screw it. Yeah, 327 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm going. I'm going. I'm I'm gonna go with Tron 328 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: because it's been important to me far longer and I 329 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: I love it. Nerd dudes all over the world listening 330 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: to this that are super excited that that's your favorite, Well, 331 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: I probably will. You're probably also safe and that I 332 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: don't think anyone else will. It's not gonna be like, 333 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: oh on again, is everybody's number one? Glass loves Tron? Um. 334 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: I have a confession to make about Tron. Have you 335 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: never seen it. I've seen Tron. I hated saw it 336 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: this afternoon. You really it was the first time you've 337 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: ever seen it. I don't know how I didn't see Tron. 338 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: I never saw Tron. This is what a great first episode. 339 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: I know. I loved the Arcade game. I played it obsessively, 340 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: and I never saw the movie. Oh my god, this 341 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: is great. And I don't know why. I was trying 342 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: to figure it out today. I was like, I've seen Tron, right, Yeah, 343 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, the movie with the light cycles. But 344 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: then it started to dawn on me. I never never 345 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: ever saw Tron. Oh my god. So I watched it 346 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: today in full uh, and we should talk about it. Okay, 347 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: what was your first like Tron experience? Do you remember 348 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: seeing it in the theater? I don't remember my first 349 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: time seeing it. I really don't. I don't. I couldn't 350 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: tell you if I saw VHS. Um, well, I could 351 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: have seen it in the theater. I mean it's a 352 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: Disney movie number one, yeah, but I mean you know 353 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: I would have. I mean I was what six, Um, 354 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: I think I probably saw in the theater. And the 355 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: reason is that like rocked my world. And so I 356 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: can't imagine that I would have seen it on VHS 357 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: for the first time. Um uh I. I maintain to 358 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: this day that it was so far ahead of its time, 359 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: so far ahead of time, and it is pretty peculiar 360 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: and amazing that it's a Disney movie. I think it's 361 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: it's worth like it's of note for that reason and itself. 362 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: Um I don't play video games. I'm not a game 363 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: at all, so it has nothing to do for me 364 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: with like I didn't I never played no No No. 365 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean I would play like handheld pac Man games, 366 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: like at my friend's houses, and I played whatever, like 367 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: PC learning games my dad got me that. We're like, 368 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't even think I had an Oregon trail that 369 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: that was more advanced than I didn't even have Arizona 370 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: Trail truck. I'm talking about. The only thing you think 371 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: of right now was a game called spell It that 372 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: was a spelling game that involved a frog who the 373 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: little tongue would come out and like lick it would 374 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: lick and absorb the letters after you spelled something correctly. 375 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: That was like your prize. How old were you? I 376 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: mean it was little. This wasn't like fifteen years old. 377 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean it was like, you know, when you're year old, 378 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: two year old, maybe like this was when it was 379 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, still like it was shocking that there was 380 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: any kind of a game to be played, So probably 381 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: around six years old or something. Yeah, and liken' listen. 382 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: Some of the words would get pretty tricky. I don't 383 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: want you to think that it was like a sugar 384 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: and cat frogs frogs are hungry maybe a long word. So, uh, 385 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: arcade games that got you in there, not at all? No, 386 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: um No. I just loved the world of it. I 387 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: loved I and to this like I would have dreams 388 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: about it. I still sometimes have dreams about it. Yeah, 389 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: that I'm inside the game grid um and uh. And 390 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: I think part of the reason that I didn't play 391 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: the arcade games is that because I saw the movie first, 392 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: the arcade games were just see flat, two dimensional things, 393 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: and the whole point was like, but no, that don't 394 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: understand these games exist for regular people to play. I'm 395 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: a user, I should, but I should be inside the game. 396 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: That's the only way I want to experience it. Is 397 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: like viscerally with my cute uniform on. And uh and 398 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: I love the music. The music again totally ahead of 399 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: its time and crazy and weird and great um and 400 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: uh and without Now we'll get into the kind of 401 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: the sentimentality of it, which was that my dad also 402 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: loved it, and we would play this game at night 403 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: like when yeah, when I was this is why you 404 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: love trying to suck out, just closed the door behind me. 405 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: We had um an alarm system in the house where 406 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, you have the motion detector and the little 407 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: red light blinks when there's motion. And then we also 408 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: had like you know, everything digital, so like our micro 409 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: wave was digital, or all our VCRs clocks, all that 410 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: kind of stuff was digital. And that's all yeah, so 411 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: that's all great. So and our house was this little 412 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: tiny three bedroom house, but it you could go in 413 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: a complete circle around it, right, so you could come 414 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: in the front door, you could go through the living room, 415 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: turn left, go down the hallway where all the bedrooms were, 416 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: go back into the back room, and then that reconnected 417 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: with the kitchen that reconnected with the front room, so 418 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: you can go in a full circle. And there was 419 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: there was zero atria nor koi pond uh. And so 420 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: my dad would we would play this game where we 421 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: were inside the game where we would turn off all 422 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: the lights in the house, and he would when I 423 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: was really when I was a little like I guess 424 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: six or whatever, because I would have that's as little 425 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: as I would have been able to be. He would 426 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of hold me Superman style, UM, and we would 427 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: like scoot around the house and we would be trying 428 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: to avoid um Sark and like all the bad guys, 429 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: and so if we were trying to creep past the 430 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: motion detectors, I mean, listen, it was a great would 431 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: be great training for me if I'd become an expert 432 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: cat burglar. We would be we would kind of get 433 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: as far as we could before we would see a 434 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: light and then we would see the red light. We'd 435 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: be like they see us, the recognizers, and then we'd 436 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: like run into the next room like like you know. 437 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: And so to this day, I'm not afraid of that, 438 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Like I've never been afraid of the dark, because I 439 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: only equate the total darkness with playing Tron And Yeah, 440 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: and it was this like super great cool game that 441 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: my dad made up that was legitimately like kind of 442 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: scary and exciting, and it made me feel like I 443 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: was inside that game grid And then at Disneyland, UM 444 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: we would go to Disneyland every summer. My dad would Um. 445 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: We had friends who lived in La Canada, which is 446 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: kind of like Pasadena area, and he would because of 447 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: the Arizona summers, he would wake me up up. He 448 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: would he would take a nap, like he would sort 449 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: of sleep for a couple of hours, and then he 450 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: would get up in the middle of the night and 451 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: wake me up and put me in a sleeping bag 452 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: in the covered cab of our Dots and truck which 453 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: was carpeted and uh, and he'd be like he would 454 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: wake me up at you know, say two or three 455 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: in the morning, say like, miss Jay, are you ready 456 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: to go to Disneyland? And I was like and then 457 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: and so then I would get into the car and 458 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: fall asleep, and then I would wake up and we 459 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: would be almost there, and then I would kind of 460 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: clamber through the little window and then come sit with 461 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: my dad and um, and then we would get there. 462 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: And then at Disneyland they had the people Mover, which 463 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: one little tiny sliver of the People Mover was that 464 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: you would go inside this kind of room that they 465 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: had just put Yeah, they just all it was was 466 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: movie screens, but you would be on the people mover 467 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: and then suddenly you would be on the game grid 468 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: and they recognized were coming, almost squash you, and then 469 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: you would go inside the light cycle maze. So again, 470 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: no interest in the arcade game I did. I was like, 471 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: I just want to live here full time. So, um, 472 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: those are all like very they're very deep embedded childhood 473 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: memories for me. And uh, but but there's nothing about 474 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: the movie now when I watch it, it means every 475 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: bit as much to me. There's no There are plenty 476 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: of movies that I loved that I can't. I can 477 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: sort of go, what does it hold up? I'm not 478 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: able to see if it doesn't hold up, Like you 479 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: just watched up for the first time. So your experience 480 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: was your experience, and I totally respect that. But I 481 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: it's I mean, I've brainwashed myself. I've still watched it 482 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: and think, God, this is ahead of its time. God, 483 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: this is good. It's so good. Well it was ahead 484 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: of its sign because it was in a little research 485 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: today it is um it was one of the very 486 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: first movies to use computer animation at all. And who's 487 00:25:52,600 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: the director. The director is Stephen Liz Burger. Oh you 488 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: nailed it earlier, Peter, I think, ye the Giants Stephen 489 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: Lisberger and he, uh, it was kind of a not 490 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: kind of it was a passion project for him, like 491 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: he thought of this world and was ahead of his 492 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: time and couldn't get anyone to make it and like 493 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: sunk his own money into like test shots, and we 494 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: took it around to the studios and was like, look 495 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: at what I have. Look at this amazing thing. And 496 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't know about that. And 497 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: finally Disney took a flyer and said, all right, we'll 498 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: give you like ten million bucks or whatever, which was 499 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: huge because he wasn't in the Disney clan. He was 500 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: an outsider. And he said he always felt that way too, 501 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: which is kind of sad. But um, it was way 502 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: ahead of its time and no one knew what they 503 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: were seeing. Like now, for someone like me to watch 504 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: it who's never seen it before, sure it might look dated, 505 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: but it also looks modern in a weird way, you know, 506 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: like especially the stuff with the and I didn't know, 507 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: but they really shot in black and white the characters 508 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: and did this rotoscoping process and that because of how 509 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: they had to do it painstaking. That ends up looking 510 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of cool. Now, yeah, it looks fantastic and all 511 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: the way the city lights up at the I mean, 512 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: it's all so wonderful. Also collect these um these like 513 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: at some of the kind of like hipster like Japanese 514 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: toy shops. Uh, when I was well there, you know 515 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: there are they exist in like San Francisco and Los 516 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: Angeles and you know some of the kind of certainly 517 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: on the western coast cities. Um there was a place 518 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: in San Francisco that's sold the They're called Kubrick of course, 519 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: um just I'm saying that because of course it's named 520 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: after something also equally like Nichian hip where they would 521 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: do these limited edition lines of toys from beloved movies 522 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: like that, and so they I have these really cool 523 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: they almost look like um like mobile like m I 524 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: is the um um O b I L or those 525 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: or those little people. It's just a little kind of 526 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: like Lego people. So they sort of do look like 527 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: Lego people, but you know they're in their uniforms and 528 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: then there's a great but but the design is so 529 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: great and there's this great UM. I wish I if 530 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: we were in l A, I could have brought it 531 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: with me. But there's a recognizer that you can you 532 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: can pop the legs off and then turn the legs 533 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: inward in the center so you can make it into 534 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: like the there's a tank that's really beautiful. But they're 535 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: just so well done and well made. I have the 536 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: whole set of the Kubrick stuff, and then I have 537 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: like a scattering of the original toys that look more 538 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: like you know, Star Wars figures or whatever. Um, yeah, 539 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: and I have I mean that's a that's a good 540 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: go to gift someone stuff. Yeah, And they did this 541 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: really cool. They had it. They showed it at the 542 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: Arrow in Santa Monica years ago in Los Angeles and 543 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: and Stephen the director was there, and then one of 544 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: the producers and um and uh, I think Bruce box 545 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: Lightner was there, and for sure what's her name the 546 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: woman was there and Cinny Morgan was there, and so 547 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: they all kind of talked and traded stories and talked 548 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: about it. Oh, it was so cool. And they had 549 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: a couple of you know, costumes from there. And and 550 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: I hate Tron legacy, like nothing that came after Tron. 551 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: Do I have any respect for what's it? Well, I 552 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: didn't see Tron Legacy, and I didn't I think there 553 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: was even a TV show. I'm not sure. Yeah, there 554 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: was something in between that between the two main big 555 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Tron movies. But see, now that I've seen Tron at all, 556 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: the idea I know what the idea of Tron Legacy was. 557 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: It seems like a great idea that like this this 558 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: Jeopard his son has now come back. Now. Yeah, and 559 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't even look I can't. I can't. I didn't 560 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: capture the spirit of the original at all, and not 561 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: to me. To me, it's just this sort of empty, soulless. 562 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel like and it doesn't do anything 563 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: from me at all. I see why they did it, though, 564 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, like Tron was so out of its time, 565 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: and like now they have the technology and to make 566 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: a new and I like Garrett Headlin. Yeah, um, but 567 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I never saw it because 568 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: I didn't see But also and I saw it only 569 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: once I saw it, I'll Copy Town. I mean I went, 570 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: I went hoping it would be great. You know el 571 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: copy Town you don't know was on Hollywood Boulevard and 572 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: it's Disney's big theater and they have sometimes live that 573 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: you came in fourhand. It's really it's a beautiful place, um, 574 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: and that was the right thing to do to see 575 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: it there. I can barely remember what it was about 576 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: out front. I wish I bet no, No, I don't 577 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: think they had. They might have had some costumes from 578 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: the then who cares because it's from the new stuff. 579 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: Why is ass enough? Right? Jeff Bridges character, he returns 580 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: in different variations of himself stuff. Yeah, and uh, he's 581 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: humorless from what I can remember. And Olivia Wild, Olivia Wild, 582 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: she's lovely but like she's everybody was just humorless. And 583 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: that was the I mean, the whole point. So much 584 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: of Tron is Jeff Bridges being a complete why that smart, 585 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: infuriating sark, which I mean obviously that's um played by uh, 586 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: don't tell me um David. Yes, I always forget his name, 587 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: even though I love him and he's one of the 588 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: great bad guys. Yeah, A Man with Two Brains is 589 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: very close to the the top of my favorite movie. But 590 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: if you have a podcast, Sam Levine and that is 591 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: his favorite. So I really struck that from the list 592 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: because I knew Sam would want to talk about with 593 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: two Brains. I could talk about that all day long. 594 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: Um year, you know, yeah, David, No, no, no, it 595 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: did not. Dead Men Don't Wear a Platt came out 596 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: that year. Sorry I can't remember his last name. David Warner. 597 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: David Warner, of course, one of the one. And you 598 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: know what's so freaky is, I don't know if you 599 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: do this, but you go back and watch some of 600 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: your favorite movies and then you think, wow, I'm older 601 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: than them when they meant this for sure, So Bridges 602 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: in box lightn or we're both around thirty one ish 603 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: when they made it. David Warner, it was five years 604 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: younger than me. He was one years old ancient in 605 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: that Yeah, of course he did in our brain because 606 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: we were kids and now and I even watched it today, 607 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I look at that old, creepy guy, 608 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: these five years younger than me. Oh my god. Well 609 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: he he also has one of those faces where you're like, oh, 610 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: you're sixty twenty year old, and he wasn't you'll get 611 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: their cargo short? Wasn't it? Absolutely not? Absolutely not? And 612 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: then the and then the guy who plays Ram, and 613 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: then when Ram dies, yeah, it just still makes me cry. Yeah, 614 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: and the whole weird, the the whole idea of technology 615 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: and and like the gods and that sort of playing 616 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: with that kind of like theology, the idea that there 617 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: would be information living inside a computer that would be 618 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, that would be intelligent enough to question where 619 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: itself came from and putting all of this faith in 620 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: the people who created it. And I mean, it's just fascinating. Well, 621 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: that was sort of the great fear I think at 622 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: first when you know, computers became a thing, But now 623 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: it's sort of a legitimate fear. You know, robots becoming 624 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: sentient master control program man. Yeah, like that's kind of 625 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: a thing now. It was ahead of its time, but um, 626 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: what's kind of struck me A couple of funny things. Um, 627 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: on that note, twin is it? Who is the main? 628 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: Was it? Sark was talking to the David Warner character 629 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: and kind of explaining MCP, that master Control program is 630 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: the main And then Sark is like his lackey kind 631 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: of MP is just you can just a little confusing 632 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: because I played CP. You just hear you hear that 633 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: deep scary voice, but then you see it as like 634 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: a computer grid face and yeah, oh, I also have 635 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: the toy of that. It's so cool. But um, a 636 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: couple of funny things. One is he said that, um, 637 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: he was getting involved with the Kremlin and uh who 638 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: else the Kremlin and the Pentagon because he said that 639 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: he could design things, uh nine hundred to twelve hundred 640 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: times better than any human. I just love that number range. Yeah, 641 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: like between nine times better. Uh. And the other thing 642 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: was the beginning and the end of the movie is 643 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: so weird and abrupt. How the movie starts it just 644 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, it says Flynn's Arcade, which is in Culver 645 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: City by the way. I don't know if you've ever 646 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: been by that building, the whole building. Um, that's where 647 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: they shot the exterior. And um, it starts with just 648 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: a dude playing the Tron game, and then it goes 649 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: in on the Tron game and then you're in the 650 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Tron game, and then it just starts and then and 651 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: then it says literally says like and meanwhile in the 652 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: real world, and then this Jeff Bridges and you're like, oh, 653 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: who is this guy? And then when the movie just 654 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: it just ends like they're in the computer world. They 655 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: have the big climax fight and then uh, he gets 656 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: out of a helicopter at the end and joins box 657 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: Lightner and Sydney Morgan. They're like, they hug, and that's 658 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: the end of the movie. I'm of there's the big 659 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: climax is definitely in side of the game, and that's 660 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: what the movie him come back out. And then when 661 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: he comes back out, we see that he's successfully gotten 662 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: all the information that's printing out very slowly on the 663 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: loud printer, and then David Warner sees that no, it didn't. 664 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: Then it's like he's toast and then it's like, hey, 665 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: we better the boss is coming, and you're right, it's Jeff. 666 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: Don't strike me as bad filmmaking. It struck me as 667 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 1: such a thing of its time period, like to where 668 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: movies would end with just everyone like high fiving and 669 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: that's it. Now we have now we've been tainted in 670 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: the other direction by too many false endings. For you're like, 671 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this movie, every every scene now for 672 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: the last twenty minutes has felt like the last scene Tarantino, 673 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: let's keep a clean, let's get in, get out, And 674 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: then as the lights go down in the city, not 675 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: to quote a Journey song, then how much it looks 676 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: like what else that happened in the whole building. David 677 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: Warner pretty is pretty far with through anyone. Well, Senny Morgan, 678 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: you know, I know her from Caddyshack. She's a fox 679 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: us as Lacy Underhalls, which wow, I couldn't get away 680 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: that today. Uh oh. And then the other thing I 681 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: thought was neat was income as the name of the 682 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 1: company is like kind of one of the great evil 683 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: villain companies of all time. I think, Yeah, it sounds 684 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: like it could be anything, and that's what's so great 685 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: and terrifying about it. Yeah, I mean that's kind of 686 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: the key store and just all the stuff they're working on. 687 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: The whole idea that you could, you know, use lasers 688 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: to break down the atom to the point where you 689 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: could shoot it through space. I mean, that's a little 690 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: bit Wanta vision too. That's another movie I could have 691 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: probably said everything everything goes back to being a young 692 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: a young person, like I don't. I think, I'm so, 693 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm so connected to that unbridled passion that feels kind 694 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: of unmatchable as Yeah, I can't. So those I think 695 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: those are all the movies that I really go back to, 696 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: because when I think about movies, I mean, you know, 697 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: after I saw in Bruges, I was like, this is 698 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: my favorite movie. And then I saw another movie that 699 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: I felt was my favorite movie. A year later, I 700 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: was like, no, this is my favorite movie. But you know, 701 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: and Bruges is in there, the Ice Storm. I still 702 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: think it is like made. There's artistically, you know, intact 703 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: and you know, brilliant movies that would also be kind 704 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: of in my list. But I like to say, like 705 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: I have a top It's like I have twenty five 706 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: top five movies. Yeah, you know you have like you 707 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 1: get twenty five, but they're all part of your top five. 708 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: But I did to think of a segment today that 709 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do for everyone, which is, oh, you asked 710 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: me to remember some think about maybe something more like 711 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: guilty Pleasures. We'll do that later, okay, And by later, 712 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean okay, uh, this is a segment. Maybe we'll 713 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: getting old to do some cool music for this called 714 00:37:54,719 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: what Ebert said this movie is a complete okay, all right, 715 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: because I thought he's awa. I mean, there's plenty of 716 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: legendary film critics, but he's always been my favorite. Absolutely 717 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: he gave well what do you think? First of all? Now, 718 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: do you have any idea Listen. I want to believe 719 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: that he was on board and that he understood how 720 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: special and important it was, and that he thought to himself, 721 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: Janet Varney will one day name this is her favorite movie. 722 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: But I don't feel like it got particularly good reviews, 723 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: and I don't think it did particularly well, so I 724 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: and he was pretty influential at the time, so I'm 725 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: prepared for him to have given it a thumbs down. 726 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: Eber loved it. He gave it four stars and a 727 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: thumbs up, and he says, uh, it was a technological 728 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: sound and light show that is sensational and brainy, stylish 729 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: and fun. Oh good, And then he went on to 730 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: rape about the special effects. He said that the holy 731 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: imaginary worlds of Toron are so cleverly composed that I 732 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: never ever got the sensation that I was watching some 733 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: actors stand in front of or in the middle of 734 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: special effects. Never And I think you see that so 735 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: much more today. You can really feel the sort of 736 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: flatness because you can do anything and screen. It's really hard. Yeah, No, 737 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: I felt like I can't again. I feel like they 738 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: were all there, They were all there living in that world. 739 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: They're starting to get it right though, Like did you 740 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: see the Jungle Book? Yes, yeah, like that was amazing, 741 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: It really was. But for a while they're people kind 742 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: of went nuts. Well even still, even with like Fantastic Beasts, 743 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: for example, I just I feel so strongly that I 744 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: can see like Eddie Redmain sort of looking at his 745 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: finger where something is supposed to be, and I just 746 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm so aware it's not there. I'm so painfully aware 747 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: it's not there. I don't know about that finger scene, 748 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: but well, I know what you're talking about. Like when 749 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of mystical fun toy things around, Well, 750 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: the eyelines never right. It's always, even with all the 751 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: technology they're of, just enough to where it looks like 752 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: the Three Company episode where Jack's twin visits, you know, 753 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: which I don't think it ever happened. Um. And the 754 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: lasting here is I looked up the movies of nineteen 755 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: eighty two mainly because I was like, why didn't I 756 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: see this? What was I going to see? So I 757 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: can know now what was what else was two? Well? Yeah, 758 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: and it's is a powerhouse of stuff. Well, movies back 759 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: then we're amazing. Yeah, and this is just like when 760 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: you look at the list of movies that are out 761 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: in seventeen and then this list. It's it makes you 762 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: want to cry because two Blade Runner, Ship Et the Thing, 763 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: Fast Times to Reach My High, Poultergeist, Wrath of con 764 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: Tutsie hands down. Probably Blade Runner to Tutsie was just 765 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: a a March release in nineteen eighty two. It wasn't 766 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: like Oscar season's coming up, like that's where it would 767 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: be slotted today. Is blowing my mind? Uh did I 768 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: say Fast Times, Reach High? Forty eight hours, Officer and 769 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: a Gentleman Annie? Oh my god? First Blood very big 770 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: for me, The Dark Crystal Gandhi Rocky three. Never say 771 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: Rocky three was very big for me, but I did 772 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: see Rocky three. That's where my priorities. Like, I mean, 773 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: there are a couple of movies that I wouldn't say, like, 774 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so great, but they were 775 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: big for me, Like this Beast Master was it was great. 776 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: But then Sophie's Choice World according to Garp, my favorite year, 777 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: the Secret of nim Diner year, Like this is just 778 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: a smattering. This isn't all the movie crazy in Hollywood 779 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: in the early eight I mean I could comfortably pick 780 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: some of my all time favorite movies. Just out of that, 781 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: you could stop Blade Runner, Et The Thing and Poultergeist, 782 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: and you could say, and no other movies were made 783 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: that year, and it would be like one of the 784 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: great years. The Thing I just saw on the big 785 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: screen at the arc Light and it beyond holds up. Yah, 786 00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 1: that's amazing and super gruesome. Yeah, really gross. John Carpenter 787 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: the Man. Yeah, and well he did all his still 788 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: does all his on music. It's great. Yeah. Um, any 789 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: finishing thoughts on Tron, I love it, thumbs up, I 790 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: love you, Tron. I know that you're a movie even 791 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: though you were also a character in the movie named Tron. 792 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: But I just wanted I mean I was for the 793 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: longest time. I was like, if I have kids, I'm 794 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: naming my kid Flynn, no matter whether it's a boy 795 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 1: or No. I wouldn't name that no, because I really 796 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: love m Yeah, that'd be a funny name. Michael Chadwick Peterson. 797 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: It's just so good. I could call him MCP. That 798 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: would be a pretty slick move. Um. But Tron was 799 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: a character, but also the name of the security system, 800 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: that's right, the box lightner was program. Yeah, exactly, No, 801 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: one just got up and I walked in. My walked 802 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,479 Speaker 1: He's done. That's what was confusing to me a little 803 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: bit about the movie, So all the different characters playing, 804 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: but that's It's like, but that's what it's about, dumb. 805 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: It was invented the program Tron, so that's what Tron 806 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: looked like. Tron looked like his user, and then Flynn 807 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: designed a ton of stuff. So that's why I like 808 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: when you go inside the beginning of the movie in 809 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 1: the tank, that's Flynn too, because he designed that program 810 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: in the tank. What about this scene with when they 811 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: when Cyndy Morgan and when Lacey under als and and 812 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: the scarecrow. First he was a scarecrow, right, he was? 813 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: He certainly wasn't as scarc I never saw that show, 814 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: but I just did the match real quick, like, um, 815 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: they walk in the first time they go to see 816 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: Jeff Bridges or Flynn, excuse me, and he's so overly 817 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: sweaty from playing the video game. At first, I was like, 818 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: is he really that sweaty? Because the armpit sweats like 819 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: out to his chest. Then his chest was sweaty through 820 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: the shirt. It's like, why are they doing that? And 821 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: he goes up and takes off his shirt, and I 822 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: was like, I think that's exactly why they did it. Yeah, 823 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 1: he takes off one shirt and puts on a different 824 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: shirt and they're both Flynn's video game like it's it. 825 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: But he takes it off in front of her because 826 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: they used to date. And then he had that sly 827 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: line about leaving the house messy or whatever, and then 828 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: she practically shoves Bruce box Lighter on the couch because 829 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: of the quip about her leaving her house messy relationships? 830 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: Am I right? I say that Toron is a go 831 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: to to understand relationships between the two people who care 832 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: about each other. No, probably not, but maybe between man 833 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: and computer, between man and computer, between a bit and 834 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: a program for that a little bit. No, Janet Varney, 835 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: thanks for coming into the pleasures. Yeah, yeah, you're right. 836 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: You've been doing this podcast for one hour in life 837 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: and you don't remember the bold I have clothes with 838 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: guilty pleasure? All right, what's your guilty pleasure? Let program? Well, 839 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: I did think about it because I didn't want it 840 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: to be a thing. Listen, First of all, how dare you? 841 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: And I said that in our text too, I said 842 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 1: don't you even pretend like my favorite movie can also 843 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: be a guilty pleasure. I will never call it a 844 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: guilty pleasure. But I was trying to think because I thought, 845 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: I want to want to have some pretentious luck like 846 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: you said, where someone's like, my guilty pleasure is the Godfather. 847 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: Shut up. Um. But it's kind of hard because I 848 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of the like, oh, I know. 849 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: This is the same with reality television stuff like that. 850 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't find that I have a lot 851 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: of like this is delicious, and I know I shouldn't, 852 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: but here I watch, you know, I feel I get 853 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: really impatient with stuff that this isn't good. So I 854 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: was trying to think of things that, um, that I 855 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: would watch anyway, and I think I actually wrote a 856 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 1: couple of them down. I know for sure that recently 857 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 1: on planes, I can't stop watching movies about horses, which 858 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 1: was never something I cared about, but all of a sudden, 859 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 1: Sea Biscuit seems like the best movie I've ever seen. 860 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: I watched Secretariat. Secretariat. They didn't have well, this is Delta, 861 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: and they have some old movies that you can watch. 862 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 1: I hadn't gotten to the horse Whisper, which I've never seen. 863 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: I probably won't watch war Horse, but suddenly suddenly I need, like, uh, 864 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 1: feel good horse movies when I'm on a plane, because 865 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: I'm too tired to enjoy anything else. So feel good 866 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: horse movies. Apparently that's a new thing. Um. And then 867 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: I also admitted to like beauty. Did you see that? 868 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: When you're a kid? Give a crap? I didn't give 869 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: a crap about horse movies. I did see The Black Stallion. 870 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: I barely remember it. Last Unicorn. That was a tough one. Um, 871 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: I will always, but I did, especially because I know 872 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: you like Jaws so much. I feel the same way 873 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: about Jaws. And I will see no but a shark movie, 874 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: not Sharknado, not like intentionally campy shark movies. But I 875 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: will give almost any shark based movie a chance. And 876 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: I love the movie Deep Bluesy. I love it. I 877 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: love it. I've watched it. I've seen it so many times. 878 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: If it's on I will watch it till the end. 879 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: I love it. I liked how unabashedly schlocky it was. Yeah, 880 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: it knew what it was and so it camped out 881 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: in a good way. But it was genuinely, still very 882 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: scary to me, even though the sharks got smarter because 883 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: they were injecting them with some sort of growth hormones 884 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 1: that they could cure Alzheimer's. That's a side effect the 885 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: shop Scott smart. The sharks got smarter, Chuck. That was 886 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: the big pull line from the trailer. I remember that, 887 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,720 Speaker 1: and I was so star struck when uh, my friend Oscar, uh, 888 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: we were going to dinner with Oscar and Ursla, or 889 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: are dear friends of ours? And he said, I hope 890 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 1: you don't mind, our friends are gonna be joining us. 891 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: And it was the shark. It was the shark. No, 892 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: it was Saffron Burrows. And I I said, I in 893 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: a million years, I never thought I would meet Saffron Burrows. 894 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: Not a person that I think I traveled the same 895 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: circles with. Its very excited that I got to meet 896 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: Saffron Burrows and it was everything you thought. It was wonderful. Yeah, 897 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: she's just great. That was her line, wasn't it The 898 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: sharks smart? Yeah, she made those sharks smarter, she made 899 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: those she put us all at risk. She got Sam 900 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: Jackson munched. That's a great moment that was snatches him 901 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: I feel that that moment. I can't think of having 902 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: seen that anywhere before that movie, and I feel like 903 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: I've seen it a million times since. Yeah, and like 904 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: Snakes on a Plane was a direct descendant of of 905 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: Deep Blue Seed. Yeah, because I think Deep Blue Seed, 906 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they were. Was that Renny 907 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: Harlan is it? Was it? Gosh, I don't know if 908 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: it was. It might be I might be making that up. 909 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: It was not Stephen Lisberger because he didn't direct anything else. Yeah, 910 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: he was like a Silicon Valley nerd who just went 911 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: right back to do with a couple of things. His 912 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: claim to fame was animaniacs before. That's how he got 913 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: a little juice in the industry. Oh yeah, Animaniac scread 914 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: and dough swinging Johnson. So anyway, those are a couple 915 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: of my pusure geldy pleasures. And I also, um, this 916 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: is probably too far on the side. This popped in 917 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: my mind. It was the first thing that popped in 918 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: my mind. And I and that doesn't mean that it's accurate, 919 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: But for some reason, the first thing I thought it 920 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 1: was Intolerable Cruelty with Love, that movie with Kevin Zada 921 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: Jones and and George Clooney. And I think the reason 922 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: I classify it as a guilty pleasure is because I 923 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: somehow know I'm supposed to not like it because it's 924 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: not full Cohen Brothers. Yes, and so I'm I've been 925 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: told it's terrible, do you know what I mean? Like 926 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: the society has told me it's terrible, unlike over the 927 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: worl out there or whatever, and so but that's so, 928 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: that was what the first thing that popped in mind. 929 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: I love that movie. Yeah, I don't like when people 930 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,919 Speaker 1: I think there's two Cohen Brothers tears, and I love 931 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: that second tier when they're clearly just having a good 932 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: time making a comedy. I love those movies, yeah, like 933 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: Intolerable Cruelty and the one I really love is uh 934 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: Man with with Brad Pitt and Cluney Burn. After reading Burn, 935 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: after reading I think that I think I hated that 936 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 1: when I saw it, and now I like it. And 937 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: I didn't love Hale Caesar, And I'm wondering if in 938 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: a couple of years maybe I'll love that too, because 939 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: maybe it I was fine with it. Yeah, would that 940 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: it were that simple? Is like maybe laughed so hard 941 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: so good. But think is another one where I'm like, 942 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: is that one of the all time greatest movies probably 943 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: probably has one of the all time greatest endings of 944 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: any movie about an ending. Yeah, and that I saw that. 945 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: That that's kind of one of my friends and minds 946 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: from college favorite movie. So we watched it saw in 947 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: the theater, then watch it obsessively in college. And he 948 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 1: went on to be friends with Tony Shalub, who, like 949 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: in real life, I r L and he was so 950 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: good in that yea, so good. Yeah and that little 951 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: part and everything. How do you feel do you feelers 952 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: went well? I think let's have a postmortem on on camera. 953 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: It went great. I might do a little solo postmortem, 954 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 1: not tonight because I have to go to bed, because 955 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: it's like, um no, I think it went great. The 956 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: pilot episode like how I jammed in like eight of 957 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: my other favorite movies, and so I think that's kind 958 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: of takes them. I still was the first one to say, yeah, 959 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: that's kind of the point though. Screw you. Sam Levine's right, 960 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: Sam Man with Two Brains is really great. I could 961 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: quote the hell out of that movie. You know, kind 962 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: of a real dork, what for that? Movie. Yeah, I 963 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: just on my favorite movie that everything I'm naming is 964 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: just so dorky. But well, you went after tron Hard 965 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: and now that I know the whole story behind it, 966 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: like it's really it's a it's a real thing. Yeah, 967 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: it's I get it. You weren't seeking a NERD credit 968 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: or anything like that. No, no, no, let's ask you 969 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 1: to back off that for a second. Untrue. Um no, 970 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: this is great, all right. Well, thanks for coming in, 971 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: Janet Barney for sure number one. Thanks Chuck, here I go, 972 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess. I ran away only after the 973 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: dr was closed. Man, that was just I'm just so 974 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: excited about the show. That could not have gone any better. 975 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: A new Janet was a great choice as guest number 976 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: one because she's, um, well she's a professional podcaster herself 977 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 1: and does interviews herself, so she knows how to how 978 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: to keep the conversation going like a real pro. So, um, 979 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,760 Speaker 1: that was just a lot of fun. Janet. Her feelings 980 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: on tron were, Um, I was kind of wondering what 981 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: to expect on why that was her favorite pick, and 982 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: it was very heartwarming to know to me that that 983 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 1: was a movie that she and her dad uh, bonded 984 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 1: over and it was a very special film from her 985 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: childhood because of the cute little Tron game that she 986 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: used to play with her dad. So as we go 987 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: on with Movie Crush, I think it'll be super interesting 988 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: to see, uh, sort of the why behind why people 989 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: pick these favorite movies. And I suspect that moving forward, 990 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get quite a few that have a lot 991 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: of sentimental value, and that is certainly the case with 992 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: Janet here in Tron and Stand Against Evil, guys, I 993 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: am so excited. I love season one. Janet is so 994 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: funny and it everyone's just great. And season two actually 995 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 1: premiered yesterday, uh in real time, So November one premiered 996 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: on i f C. Check it out Stand Against Evil 997 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,280 Speaker 1: season two. It's wonderful, and check out j V Club, 998 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 1: the j V Club podcast where Janet interviews um people 999 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,479 Speaker 1: about their embarrassing high school years. It's really really good show. 1000 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: So thanks to Janet for her time and until next week, 1001 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: Well would kill you to spare a little popcorn? Maybe? 1002 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: Movie Crush is produced, edited, engineered, and scored by Noel 1003 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: Brown from our podcast studio at Pond City Market, Atlanta, Georgia.