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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: Episode one of Joe Days. Like guys, it's a production

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Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. It's a podcast, this one where

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Speaker 1: we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Monday, March,

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Speaker 1: which of course means that it's National Corn Dog Day.

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Speaker 1: It's National Certified Nurses Day. Also, you know what I up.

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Speaker 1: That's what Saturday is. It's International Color Day and World

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Speaker 1: Puppetry Day. Okay, I love both of those things. Colors,

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Speaker 1: also colorful Puppets, National French Bread Day, National California Strawberry Day,

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Speaker 1: and World Down Syndrome Day. We got it all today, Okay,

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Speaker 1: out to all of those things. It's Monday. People putting in,

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Speaker 1: putting in work for the downs community and America. Awesome. Well, Miles,

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Speaker 1: I haven't introduced to you, so I'm not gonna shut

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Speaker 1: you know, We've only done this a thousand times. Um.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien a k Take me down

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Speaker 1: to the KFC where the colonel is pretty in the

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Speaker 1: candles are gravy. I don't want what you please take

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Speaker 1: me down under. That is courtesy of Warren the Wear Bear,

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Speaker 1: everybody's favorite wear bear and also in honor of Australians

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Speaker 1: KFC tasting menu where the Colonel does look very pretty

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Speaker 1: on the stencil plate that you're supposed to lick, and

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Speaker 1: the gravy candles are a revelation. A revelation as we

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Speaker 1: put it, because I use that word so often that

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Speaker 1: I have to shorten it. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host Mr Miles grab

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Speaker 1: apple bottom e in all of the core. Her Majesty

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Speaker 1: was looking disturbed the way I bite, the way I'll

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Speaker 1: bite that apple butt and I start lo lo lo

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Speaker 1: lo lo lo lo lo, shout out to Rumhand mc

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Speaker 1: duck on the discord, because yeah, we start the apple

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Speaker 1: We start the apples from the bottom, Okay, that's how

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Speaker 1: we eat them, not from the sides. We eat a

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Speaker 1: straight from the bottom to make onlookers disturbed. This is

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Speaker 1: the new I know, and our guests right, another time

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Speaker 1: I've said something and the guests is just a gas

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Speaker 1: without saying anything, talking about eating apples from the bottom anyway, yeah,

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Speaker 1: bottom up, yeah, not top down, you feel me, not

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Speaker 1: top down, like a good organization, bottom up, bottom up, Well, Miles,

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Speaker 1: we are thoroughly be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: a brilliant actress, writer, podcaster, educator. It is the brilliant

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Speaker 1: the town to Karama dog Water. Hello, thank you. I

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Speaker 1: didn't prepare an A k A. I should have. I've

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Speaker 1: been here before. I want to be like you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I can't match your singing prowess. Thank you for having

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Speaker 1: me again. Have Yeah. Cool is definitely the operative word.

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Speaker 1: Very very cool what you've just witnessed here at the

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Speaker 1: start of very legal. I'm also the only person not

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Speaker 1: wearing a hat. And I feel like rude that I

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Speaker 1: didn't get that memo and you and you eat your

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Speaker 1: apples from the side. I'm I'm assuming based on your

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Speaker 1: reaction to that song, I was singing, Oh, I don't

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Speaker 1: need apples because I like to fight doctors. I have

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Speaker 1: a tiny apple today. I guess that's my it's my

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Speaker 1: mid record snack. I didn't even think about it. It's time.

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Speaker 1: I could probably eat it in like three bites, I think,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. I still have yet to try

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Speaker 1: the bottom to the top method of apple eating. So

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll maybe it'll happen May. Yeah, maybe it'll happen

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Speaker 1: live to tape on this podcast. I feel like the

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Speaker 1: way that you eat a food is very important, and

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Speaker 1: I just I think it's wrong. I think it's wrong

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Speaker 1: to r from the bottom up. It feels very wrong.

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Speaker 1: This like this is these of kinds of guests we

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Speaker 1: have on that just challenge the paradigm as we know it,

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Speaker 1: you know, and push us further and further out and saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's no wrong way to eat an apple.

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Speaker 1: And it just looks well like I So I bit

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Speaker 1: into a kit cat once, just like the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: kit cat right, like, Oh, you didn't break them apart,

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Speaker 1: You're just like big through all four of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it looks like a pan flute made of chocolate. That's

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Speaker 1: nice from my music cons So, Karama you are where

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Speaker 1: where are you coming to us from? I'm coming to

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Speaker 1: you from Chicago? Currently new city for me. I like

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Speaker 1: it so far. It's nice. A lot of buildings for love,

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Speaker 1: happy for Chicago and all of its buildings. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did you get to witness any of the St. Patrick's

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Speaker 1: Day madness? I was here on St. Patrick's Day, so

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Speaker 1: a little little nanigans. I'm not a big drinking holiday celebrator.

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Speaker 1: So I was just like minding my business. I actually

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Speaker 1: got my passport renewed on St. Patrick's Day, you know,

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Speaker 1: the craziest activity. So I said, most of my day

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Speaker 1: guy are a really great shout out to at the

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Speaker 1: passport office in Chicago. Wait, but you you're in l A.

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Speaker 1: Are You're in California most of the time, right, Like

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Speaker 1: you live in California, right, and so but You're like,

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Speaker 1: I gotta handle my passport ship while I'm in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I'm stupid. So what I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: dine is just did it in l A. Because I

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Speaker 1: didn't do my US passport. I did my Donna passport.

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Speaker 1: And there are four places in the United States where

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Speaker 1: you can renew you're gonna passport, and one of them

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Speaker 1: is Los Angeles. But I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm in Chicago. I don't have anybody here that's trying

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Speaker 1: to hunt me down, that needs anything to me. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this very important errand while I'm

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. Don't ever do that. That's crazy. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why I did that. It just felt like you

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Speaker 1: really feeling this in I'm like, yeah, I handle some

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Speaker 1: of my federal passport business thing. I think I've done

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Speaker 1: all year, right, And nobody peeed on your shoe or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. Like you made it through the St.

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Speaker 1: Chicago St. Patrick's Day celebration without anybody at like just

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Speaker 1: somebody breaking a window in front of you, none of that.

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Speaker 1: I'm the problem on St. Patrick's Day, which is why

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Speaker 1: I don't really celebrate because I don't like I don't

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Speaker 1: like the Celtics, and there's a lot of people wearing

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Speaker 1: Celtics jerseys on St. Patrick's Day because they are green

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Speaker 1: and so like. In fourteen, I almost started a fight

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Speaker 1: I was like, you can't wear that here, you don't

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Speaker 1: do that here, and he was blessedly like, okay, ma'am

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Speaker 1: right right. They're like you're at my bar on St. Patrick's. See.

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Speaker 1: I had one drink. St. Patrick's Say, I went and

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Speaker 1: dot Ramen and had one drink. I had like an

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Speaker 1: old fashion and I did see a Diana Larry Bird

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Speaker 1: thou and I was like, oh, it's on. Have you

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Speaker 1: been watching Winning Time on HBO? No, I haven't about

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Speaker 1: the Showtime Lakers. Oh man, there's some good if if

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Speaker 1: you want to get like energized by like people not

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Speaker 1: liking the Celtics, there's some good scenes in there where

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, just cracked her knuckles, like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're going in. I am a fellow Celtic despisers. Reason

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Speaker 1: It's just the thing I hold on to. It's my hobby.

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Speaker 1: Had beef with Danny Ainge. He's gone, and I'm still like, man,

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Speaker 1: I still really do not like this team. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it is. You always bring that up, like

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Speaker 1: going to be gone. Well, I always bring it up

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Speaker 1: on the show. You should talk to my therapist, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're like, that's all I talk. Also, I know there's

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Speaker 1: a listener named Alicia from Boston who's gonna be in

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Speaker 1: my mentions right now because whenever I bring up Alicia,

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Speaker 1: I love you. I love the people of Boston, Alicia,

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Speaker 1: you get the past, and you know what my my

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Speaker 1: dislike of the Seldon I don't know. I mean, don't

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Speaker 1: come into my house wearing that trash. And some people

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Speaker 1: in Boston are great. Boston has a city, though, does

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Speaker 1: have a reputation for being just a little bit racist,

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Speaker 1: a little bit I've heard, I heard, if I heard

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Speaker 1: a few things from the history books, I should not

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Speaker 1: give the global pass to the people of Boston. That's

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Speaker 1: probably a little much. But there are great people in Boston.

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Speaker 1: No city deserves a global past, I think you. No,

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Speaker 1: definitely not Los Angeles. Yeah right, Chicago's great though, Thanks Chicago, honestly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: If your grandparent in Chicago. Great, there it is Boom.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're going to get to know you a

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Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment Roma book. First, we're

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Speaker 1: going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. We're talking about standard time as opposed to

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Speaker 1: because my instinctively I prefer Daylight Savings time, but I

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some people are saying we should

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Speaker 1: not have frozen the clocks at daylight Savings time. We

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Speaker 1: I guess it is the standard. It is the standard,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, what's mean things guilty? Just write and

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Speaker 1: eats for it. Yeah, that's all right because specific standard time.

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Speaker 1: on time. Over there, we're gonna talk about some controversy

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Speaker 1: on the Gray's Anatomy writing team. I guess we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about n f T s. Baby, they're back, They're

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Speaker 1: have you heard about these things? So we're gonna there's

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Speaker 1: tends to go in one political direction when it comes

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Speaker 1: has a it favors the right, the one I didn't

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Speaker 1: want it, I know. So we'll talk about why that

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Speaker 1: is plenty moore, But first we do like to ask

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Speaker 1: our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, So I just want to preface this by saying,

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Speaker 1: this is again the third time I've been on this show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me back. And every time I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna search something that makes me seem mysterious and

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Speaker 1: then I forget, So you really do get my unadulterated

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Speaker 1: search history. So what I've chosen today is something I

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Speaker 1: searched yesterday, and I searched why do pickles get to

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Speaker 1: be pickles? Because because pickled cucumbers we in the United

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Speaker 1: other things, so why do pickles get to be pickles?

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Speaker 1: And I read an interesting article from PBS just about pickling,

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Speaker 1: and I I learned a lot about pickled objects and

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Speaker 1: how pickling is a very old practice and basically it's

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Speaker 1: just kind of the thing that we pick We pickle

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Speaker 1: the most in the United States, so that's why we

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Speaker 1: that you got that on two pretty wild, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's the best part of like word all two is

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Speaker 1: like surprised by yourself. You're like, whoa, my brain my

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Speaker 1: first word al I got on my second guess, my

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Speaker 1: heroin because this feels too good and I'm gonna chase

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Speaker 1: this for the rest of my life. Is Hurdle the

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Speaker 1: always the first seconds? Like does it always open with

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Speaker 1: the opening of the song? Yes, it does, which is

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Speaker 1: sometimes very annoying. Yeah, that can be really got to know, okay,

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Speaker 1: I got I want to dance with somebody in one second.

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Speaker 1: And I was with my mother when I played it.

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Speaker 1: She was like, that sounds like firecrackers. How do you

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Speaker 1: know what song that is right right right, because it's

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Speaker 1: got that like that goes that comes in hot right yeah,

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Speaker 1: with some drums and then oh yeah, look at you.

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Speaker 1: So I have a soft pitch on Hurdle that this

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Speaker 1: seems simple and perfect, But is there is there a

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Speaker 1: world where you get clues about like the year the

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Speaker 1: song came out, the genre of music that the song

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Speaker 1: is from, and then the audio clue is like the

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Speaker 1: fifth or sixth one. I like that, that's a soft pitch.

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Speaker 1: That's what That's kind of what I had in mind

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Speaker 1: for the movie version Hurdle plus there you go. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for introducing us to Hurdle. You're

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Speaker 1: welcome and shout out to um. There's a like there's

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Speaker 1: some hardcore I Carly fans follow me on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all, I don't talk about it Carly ever,

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Speaker 1: so any news that you wrote, I'm so scared of

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Speaker 1: getting sued, and I'm like, I'm not going to talk

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Speaker 1: about that show ever publicly. Um, But one of the

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Speaker 1: like hardcore fans, he and I follow each other. We're mutuals.

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Speaker 1: He's very nice, uh named Nathan, and I found out

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Speaker 1: about it from him. So shout out to Nathan Duarte

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Speaker 1: for that one. Okay, okay, shout out Nathan, and also

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Speaker 1: maybe check out dailyza Geist where we where we thank

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Speaker 1: Nathan in a while. Fans to come on, bro. I

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Speaker 1: know we didn't work on I Carley, but we know

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Speaker 1: people that did like Coma and Lacey so like she's

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Speaker 1: underrated that I feel the world is gonna fully begin

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Speaker 1: to appreciate her in the next two couple of years. Here,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that the ascent is undeniable at the moment,

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Speaker 1: underrated than she was she was. She's less underrated than

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Speaker 1: she was a day ago, but still underrated. I thought

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Speaker 1: lazy Flowers last week, like I truly love Lacey amazing.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break, we'll be right back,

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Speaker 1: and we're back. And so this I'll tell you my

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Speaker 1: my first response to this news story, it is stand

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Speaker 1: or time. The thing we actually need to embrace permanently

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Speaker 1: was the Sunshine Protection Act passed by the Senate unanimously

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Speaker 1: last week. Was that, like, should we have thought that through?

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Speaker 1: My first reaction was like, oh, fuck you, Like this

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Speaker 1: is one this is a thing that everybody was happy about.

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Speaker 1: Do we have to have the backlash? And it's also

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Speaker 1: my oh fuck you. I was coming from a place,

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Speaker 1: a selfish place, because I just do like having the

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Speaker 1: additional sunlight at the end of the day. However, the

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Speaker 1: the other major deciding factor in what kind of life

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Speaker 1: I'm living, and also like how how I interact with

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Speaker 1: the clock is that I have young children and it

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Speaker 1: has been held trying to get them to go to

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Speaker 1: sleep when the sun is still in the sky. They

484
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Speaker 1: and they're they're sleep is all fucked up. So enter

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Speaker 1: the push for standard time. Yeah, I mean a lot

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Speaker 1: of experts are like, why the fund did you pick

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Speaker 1: daylight savings over standard because we've talked about this on

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Speaker 1: the show a lot about how daylight savings causes a

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Speaker 1: lot of issues like in general people, they fucking lose sleep,

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Speaker 1: so naturally, like nearly everybody on the planet or and

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Speaker 1: the place that's observing daylight savings is beginning to get

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Speaker 1: sleep deprived, stress levels go up. It's like, it's like

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Speaker 1: a quantifiable metric to see that heart attacks and strokes

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Speaker 1: increase the week following daylight savings time, and in that

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Speaker 1: same period there's a six percent increase in fatal car accidents.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to be like, Yeah, this is like

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Speaker 1: it sucks us up when we just say, wake up

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Speaker 1: in the darkness. Well, here's my question, though I'm not

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Speaker 1: questioning the science. I'm not questioning the of research that's

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Speaker 1: been done. I believe that there are is a quantifiable

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Speaker 1: uptick in all of those negative health issues. But is

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Speaker 1: that because of the change or is that because of

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Speaker 1: the time itself. Because if we just stick with one time,

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Speaker 1: whatever that time is, is it possible ball that we

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Speaker 1: won't have those issues. Yeah, that's always been my thesis,

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Speaker 1: is that it's the change. It's changing the clock a

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Speaker 1: whole hour fox with people. So I yeah, that's like

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Speaker 1: and I don't think the claim here is that like, well,

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Speaker 1: it's just because daylight savings time is evil and that's

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Speaker 1: why there are these things it. I think everybody has

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Speaker 1: assumed that just like this is this is because of

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Speaker 1: the change, the losing one hour of sleep. But the

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Speaker 1: I think the point that's being made is that if

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Speaker 1: you're going to choose between the two daylight savings, is

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Speaker 1: not making darker earlier like in the morning, or don't

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Speaker 1: start the day and darkness. Because I think the other

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Speaker 1: thing that they point is like evolutionarily, we've just been

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Speaker 1: designed to be like where's the sunhead and then and

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Speaker 1: move with that, and so our our circadian rhythms are

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Speaker 1: tied to that. So by saying uh funk that you're

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Speaker 1: going to you're going an hour early, our bodies still know.

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Speaker 1: And that's and that's where the problems come up, as

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Speaker 1: where the clock time and our internal clock time are

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Speaker 1: not on the same ship. And so you know, they

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Speaker 1: also talk about teens, how like adolescents already have like

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Speaker 1: a natural delay like in their sleep patterns already, like

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Speaker 1: because of their growth and things like that. So waking

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Speaker 1: up in darkness by going in our head, if they

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Speaker 1: wake up in darkness, it actually makes it harder for

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Speaker 1: them to get to sleep on time, and again you

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Speaker 1: map all those other concerns about stress levels going up,

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Speaker 1: sleep deprivation, this and also that leads to depression. This

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Speaker 1: has again a lot of like child development people have

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Speaker 1: been pointing to this really alarming trend. They said in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, one in three high school students and half

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Speaker 1: of female students reported persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness,

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Speaker 1: which is at increase of tooth from two thousand nine.

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Speaker 1: So they're saying, if we're already dealing with this, making

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Speaker 1: kids wake up earlier is only going to exacerbate this,

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Speaker 1: or we're not, it's not, it's not going to help them.

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Speaker 1: If it is, then we need to push back what

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Speaker 1: time school starts, right, which is it shouldn't be well,

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Speaker 1: this is what time school always starts. Funk, what's in

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Speaker 1: the sky gets your ass to school? And then the

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00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: other arguments about like we'll do like in politicians like

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Speaker 1: dowaylight saving time, it's actually we're gonna add more sunlight

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Speaker 1: to the day. Well, it's not you're gonna add more

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Speaker 1: sunlight to the day. That's not how that fucking works.

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Speaker 1: But just for a science explainer, so you can sound

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Speaker 1: really smart at your dinner party this week, because that's

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Speaker 1: what we all do. We all go to dinner parties

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Speaker 1: our friends and talk about the New Yorker and our

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Speaker 1: French salons, but doing a hurdle in the parlor. This

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Speaker 1: is from this Atlantic article saying, quote, because of the

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Speaker 1: Earth's till, the sun spends less time above the horizon. No,

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Speaker 1: this is actually sorry, this from the New York Times. Quote,

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Speaker 1: because of the Earth's till, the sun spends less time

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Speaker 1: above the horizon during winter, which means we have shorter

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Speaker 1: daylight hours year round. Daylight savings time would only shift

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Speaker 1: daylight from the morning to the evening, meaning the sun

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Speaker 1: would rise and set an hour later than we're used

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Speaker 1: to from November to March. And again they're saying this

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Speaker 1: really needs to be considered because of all of like

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Speaker 1: the timing effects that it has on people. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know, while it is nice to have that extra

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Speaker 1: hour of the day, the right at the Atlantic, Heather

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Speaker 1: Turgeon positive, like, I wonder if business interest groups thought

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Speaker 1: it's better to do daylight savings time so if it's

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Speaker 1: lighter towards the end of the day, people will consume

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Speaker 1: more and you know, and actually patronized businesses more because

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Speaker 1: there's more sun having done no research, that sounds like

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Speaker 1: America that does. Yeah, that sounds just about And the

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Speaker 1: fact that it was unanimous across both parties. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you see, that's where the government really fucked up. They

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Speaker 1: showed us that they can get along, right, and now

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Speaker 1: we're gonna want that. Yeah right, well, and think you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 1: That's what that was about it because all of our donors, like,

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Speaker 1: the one thing all of our donors aligned on was

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Speaker 1: give us more daylight for people to buy more ship

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Speaker 1: And you see it in the sentiment a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have that we're celebrating this. A lot of people like, great,

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Speaker 1: I have more daylight at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: which I get it's more energizing. I don't really have

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Speaker 1: an opinion either way, but when I look at these

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Speaker 1: concerns that are raised, I'm like, oh, those are valid

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Speaker 1: because I feel I was dead tired this last week

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Speaker 1: just trying to just so. Yeah, it does seem like

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Speaker 1: we we all got swept up in it. I assumed,

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Speaker 1: based on nothing that someone was doing the research to

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Speaker 1: be like this is the better of the two. Turns

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Speaker 1: out not so much, but also didn't California do this already?

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Speaker 1: I think Arizona might have. Arizona and Hawaii don't funk

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Speaker 1: with it. We voted on this already in California and

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Speaker 1: they're just doing a federal version because I remember having

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Speaker 1: all these discussions like a couple of years ago during

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Speaker 1: the term elections, because there was some proposition that was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: do you just want to like not change time? And

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I want to change time. That

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Speaker 1: sounds great, right, Yeah. I wonder if that, like how

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Speaker 1: popular that proposition and any others were, gave them the

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Speaker 1: idea of like, all right, well we can just throw

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Speaker 1: this through and getting easy quick when in in Congress

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Speaker 1: and make it seem like Congress has done something. I

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: wonder how how many midterm elections they're gonna be throwing

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Speaker 1: this out there. We got you another day of daylight

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Speaker 1: of oh you guys don't like the sunlight? Okay, okay, communist,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think again, anything that comes out of

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Speaker 1: Marco Rubio off Marco Rubio's desk, I'd be like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so which interest group wrote this one? Right? I mean,

610
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: like any fucking senator to be honest, But yeah, especially

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Speaker 1: when Marco Rubio is like championing it. I'm like, it

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Speaker 1: really raises the case for you know, you're in You're

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Speaker 1: in the Sunshine State. I can imagine that business interest

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Speaker 1: groups in that state are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, more

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Speaker 1: Sunshine for make more money spend by people. Yeah, more Disney.

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Speaker 1: Although when are they going to do the fireworks? Why

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Speaker 1: are they gonna do the fireworks? Think of fantasmic? Will

618
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: you people? Do they even do fantasmic? I think they do.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Disney, I couldn't not think of Maui from

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Speaker 1: I Wanna doing that You're welcome like rap I. I

621
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Speaker 1: just had this like horrible vision of Marco Rubio doing

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Speaker 1: that like for his next election ad cosplazes mathe rabbit

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Speaker 1: like telling people you're welcome for the sun in the sky.

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Speaker 1: I can believe it. Oh yeah, I could definitely see

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Speaker 1: that ship. I can see Marco Rodyo calling himself an

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Speaker 1: ordinary Demi guy. Just anyways, great song, Marco Rubio, Please

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Speaker 1: stay the funk away from it. You have kids. You

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Speaker 1: probably heard that song like a million times. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's up there. It's it's near the top of

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Speaker 1: the charts of the past four or five years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this Gray's Anatomy writer story. It's just

632
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Speaker 1: kind of a wild story, but it's it's definitely something

633
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: that you see happen on the internet everywhere. Yeah, just

634
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: this idea of people being taking a little bit from

635
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: here and they're spicing up their own life to maybe

636
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: ascend in your job or make yourself more interesting or

637
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: Gardner sympathy. But there's this writer Elizabeth Finch, who has

638
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: written on Gray's Anatomy since has also been on like

639
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: written on shows like Vampire Diaries, True Blood, you know,

640
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: like established writers are all my shows. Also, I'm like,

641
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: I've been with this woman. Yeah. My toxic trait is

642
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: that if I'm hanging out with you and we are

643
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: near a television, I'm going to ask you, hey, do

644
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: you want to watch the pilot of True Blood? And

645
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna say no, what, I'm gonna make you do

646
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: it anywhere. I love that energy where you're like, man,

647
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: if we get high. Karam was going to be like,

648
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: do you want to watch the pilot of True Blood

649
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: called Stone Call? It's reminding me of me who would

650
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: be like, hey, man, you want to watch City of

651
00:37:52,680 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: God in like two thousand five. Yeah, every time, or

652
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: the pilot of the Shield. But like, true Blood is

653
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: my show, and she was the writer's assistant on True

654
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: Blood before she was a writer on True Bloods and

655
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: she's been with that show, and I like, I was

656
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: with her the whole time, for the whole ride there.

657
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: And I recently rewatched all eight seasons of The Vampire Diaries,

658
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: so yeah, and I am two episodes behind on Grey's Anatomy.

659
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: So I've watched eight teen seasons of Grey's Anatomy. So

660
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: this I'm I'm really upset with Elizabeth right now. Yeah,

661
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: are you Are you familiar with Elizabeth before this story broke,

662
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Like did you know her as an I did not

663
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: know her as a name, But when the story broke

664
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: and I looked up, I was like, I know her work. Yeah,

665
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: you're everywhere. I want to be like your MasterCard or

666
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: visa or whatever that thing is. But so when right

667
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: before she was about to start Gray's, you know, she

668
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: she was saying that she had been through a lot

669
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: of health stuff, and in the writer's room had mentioned

670
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: she's been through a lot, had a very turbulent medical history,

671
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: which the writer's room naturally, you know, Gray's Anatomy will

672
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: take ship from real life, inspired by real life, and

673
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: put it into the show, and her stories were not

674
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: an exception. They heard a lot of the anecdotes that

675
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: she had and we're like, wow, can we use some

676
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: of this for the show. And this is from one

677
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: of the write ups, They said, quote. Despite being just

678
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: forty four years old, Finch has seemingly endured a lifetime

679
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: of ailments and suffering, which helped transform her into an

680
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: icon of the show. She was diagnosed with a rare

681
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: form of bone cancer the year before Gray's hired her.

682
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: She went through several brutal rounds of chemo, which forced

683
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: her to unfortunately have an abortion. She lost a kidney

684
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: and part of her leg, and then was required to

685
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: have a knee replacement surgery surgery, only to later learn

686
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: that she had been misdiagnosed by a doctor whom she

687
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: later confronted. And she's been very upfront about this, She's

688
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: written like multiple essays in places like l magazine or

689
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: like the Shonda Shonda land website. But things got went

690
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: a little bit sideways when all of a sudden, her

691
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: wife contacted Shawonda Land in ABC too said I think

692
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: my wife maybe being a bit duplicitous about like what

693
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: she's telling you. Also, this all happened because like during

694
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: while the Finch was working on Gray's said that they

695
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: had to leave for a pressing family emergency that day

696
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: and couldn't work, so that her coworkers, concerned, phoned her

697
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: wife asked what was happening. They mentioned like what Finch

698
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: had told them, and her wife said that the details

699
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: of what her like what Finch said to the writers

700
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: that Grays was eerily similar to her her own very

701
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: specific medical troubles. That's part that gets me because just

702
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: say this happened to your wife. Just say that it

703
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: happened to your wife. That's what's so wild, And you like, yeah,

704
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: so I want you could you have just as much

705
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: proximity as a writer. I'm sure other writers would trust

706
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: you to be like, oh, you lived through supporting a

707
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: person going through this. You didn't just read an article.

708
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: Please give us some musable, you know, like something that

709
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: we can we can actually inspire the writing on the show.

710
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's odd. So right now Finch has been

711
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: put on leave and the people aren't quite sure. But

712
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: the wife is said because of this, like fault like

713
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: what's happened. She's like now going through a quote acrimonious divorce.

714
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, if true, you truly are like,

715
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: what was good point of that? But I get to

716
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: in some creative environment, maybe just very misguidedly, you think, oh,

717
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: this is gonna make me like indispensable to the show,

718
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: or this will really help me be someone who needs

719
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: to be part of the show and you know, help

720
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: me in my career. But damn. What's what's wild is

721
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: it feels like she doesn't know the show because of

722
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: the fact that she decided if she did lie, if

723
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: this is true, she decided to lie and say that

724
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: it was her instead of her wife. Because the show

725
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: is about relationships. The show is about the relationships that

726
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: you build up your coworkers with your patients with like

727
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: romantic relationships. It's about people. It's not just about the medicine.

728
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: And having somebody who spouses going through this and who,

729
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: like say Meredith main character the Gray herself. She sees

730
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: somebody who's spouses going through this and it reminds her

731
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: of when her husband Derek died in like season twelve

732
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: or whenever he died. That that is a story that

733
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: is I think very compelling. I would watch it. Yeah,

734
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean this isn't a compelling character for any medical drama.

735
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: Is somebody who takes the medical history of a loved

736
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: one for like selfish purposes. That ship would be I

737
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: can see that. I don't watch a ton of grays.

738
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of like medical dramas that like

739
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: How Scrubs, like all the all those shows like so

740
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, where the patient is revealed to like be

741
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: having like sympathetic ailments based on the ailments of a

742
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: loved one. The other wild thing is just the it's

743
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: a really interesting like almost like psychological drama of being

744
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: the spouse and like putting these clues together as Dawn's

745
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: on you Kaiser, so's like the end of Usual Suspects style.

746
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: You're just like, what the fuck? And then you like

747
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: go and reread the article that they wrote on it.

748
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: You read that ship. They're like, Noah, you don't need

749
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: to read that. You don't need to read that ship. Also,

750
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: you're like, hold up this character on Graze, that's the

751
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: ship that happened to me with the knee replacement and

752
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: the misdiagnosis that's in It's like Yeah, I told him

753
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: about you, baby, That's what I told him about. Something

754
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: feels funky here, like there more to this story. Yeah,

755
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: That's why I think is odd because the idea that

756
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: you're publishing multiple essays, like all the articles say like

757
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: she's been very vocal about her experiences. So that's why

758
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, how like is this something? Is this

759
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: more of a divorce? And then their people are weaponizing

760
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: different facts against each other all to say messy place.

761
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: But it's just yeah, it feels very early in the

762
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: story for the Hollywood reporter to be reporting it, to

763
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: be honest, because it's like they just were replaced. They

764
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: were just placed on ministry of leave to pending the investigation.

765
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: And it is a story based on around an acrimonious divorce,

766
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: which those are always real tricky. Yeah. Well, and also

767
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: like it's an issue with medical records, so it is

768
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: going to be very difficult for them to do a

769
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: full investigation because you can't just say, like give us

770
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: all your medical records. Those are private. That's a real

771
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: hipo violration, right. But we did want to I did

772
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: want to talk about it because I feel like this

773
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: is something like have you guys ever had somebody who

774
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: you knew through like an online community who had a

775
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: like big medical drama that turned out to not be true.

776
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: Is that ever happened to you. Oh, I've seen from

777
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: a far like people lie about like a thing, but

778
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: never like person only where I'm like, damn, I can't

779
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: believe they lied about all that ship. I mean, I

780
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: feel like it's a story we see a lot or

781
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I feel like random fandoms will be like

782
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: this guy lied about all like everything, Like okay, yeah, yeah,

783
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: that happened back at cracked as pretty wild. Yeah yeah, yeah. No.

784
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever been in that specific experience.

785
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: I have been a part of a lot of large

786
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: online groups where people have lied about stuff, but never

787
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: like health stuff, usually financial stuff. And I was in

788
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: this big Facebook group in l A called Girls Night

789
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: Out and it's like the worst kept secret Facebook group

790
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: in the world and it's for women. It's that like

791
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: twenty thousand members, and one of the main leaders of

792
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: that group she ended up getting ousted because she was

793
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: like in June, she was getting donations from people on

794
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: Venmo and she said that she was going to be

795
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: like redistributing them to women of color. And then people

796
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: were like, show us the receipts and she's like, oh,

797
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: I will. And then some hours for these receipts and

798
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: materialized and they had just been purchased, like it was

799
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: like she had just sent the money. There was some

800
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: shady financial stuff going on. And she had also said

801
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: that she wanted like money for new protests sneakers, and

802
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: people were like, you can get your own sneakers, sneak.

803
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: Big swing there, I need new protests sneakers. Yeah, that's

804
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: like wow, bless them, bless all of them. All right,

805
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk

806
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: about some other stuff. And we're back, and n f

807
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: T s continue to be a thing. So Pepe, Peppe

808
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: the Frog is back in the news. The Pepe n

809
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: f T so JM. I writer, but put it, Combining

810
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: Pepe the Frog with n f T S is like

811
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: putting ax body spray on dean cane. It's like putting,

812
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, a garbage scented hat on top of another

813
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: garbage scented heat. Yeah. I thought I thought that was apt. Okay, sure, Pepe,

814
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: because I'm sure the artist loves that. M hmm, Well

815
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: so the artist, So they had these things called sad

816
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: frogs that were issued like at the earlier in the

817
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: n f T thing, I guess last August, and they

818
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: looked suspiciously like Peppe, and they had made four million

819
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: dollars from a median price of four dred and fifty

820
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: dollars per sad frog. And Pepe's creator, who has been

821
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, heralded for taking white supremacist to court to

822
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: reclaim his character, got got the sad frogs taken down

823
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: and was made right, yeah, and then they came back

824
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: at him and claimed, you know, will like issued a

825
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: counter suit. But then like the main thing they did

826
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: was they issued a counter notice, didn't include a mailing address,

827
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: and signed it Vladimir Vladimirovitch, which happens to be the

828
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: first and middle name of Vladimir Putin. And so that's

829
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, who knows if they're just trying to

830
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: like posture like there intimidating or something. But as we're

831
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: going to talk to talk about, like there is a

832
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: real tendency for these n f T s. Once the

833
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: money and the value goes unregulated at all of a

834
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: sudden starts trickling to the right for some reason, but

835
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: also so the last we had heard of the guy

836
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: who originally drew Pepe, he was like kind of this

837
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: hero who's like getting the frog taken away from the

838
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: white supremacist. But now he is like getting into the

839
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: n f T business, auctioning off an early Pepe a

840
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: cartoon for around one million dollars, launched a d A

841
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: O so limited edition, and f T tokens for as

842
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: much as twenty dollars, a piece which garnered criticism because

843
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: people were like, well, who do you think is buying those? Man?

844
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: Like who what? What community do you think is funding

845
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: your community fund? Right? And then things took an even

846
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: weirder turn when he auctioned off an image that's in

847
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: the document that we all can have the pleasure of

848
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: looking at. That is a nude Pepe next to a waterfall.

849
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to look at that. Yeah, right now,

850
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: you're good. But a dummy thing. Yeah he kind of has.

851
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to look at it. I mean it's

852
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: Pepe is arching that back. Oh here's my question, is

853
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: that that image that we just looked at with the

854
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: waterfall and the Pepe, that's that is an m f

855
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: T that exists it is a one of one hundred.

856
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: So the plan was they were going to auction one

857
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: off that was the one that would be individually owned,

858
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: right n f T s of the same image, so

859
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: just you know jpeg. But then because we have it,

860
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: we have it for free right now. Yeah, I don't

861
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: get I believe we have it in our Google doc

862
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: right now. Hopefully the n f T please don't like

863
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: break down our door, but we'll delete it later, right yeah,

864
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: I promise, we promise we'll delete it. And yeah, that's

865
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: the thing that I don't get about n f T s.

866
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: Like I I understand. I know what an n f

867
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: T is. I know that it's ins for non fungible token.

868
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: I get that you are the certified owner of a

869
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: piece of art. But like, I don't understand n f

870
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: T s. I don't understand why they are big and

871
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: why I can't just copy paste the jpeg, Like I

872
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: know that it's stealing, but I can do that, So,

873
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: like why why is the value so high? It's like

874
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: it's all these things, Like there's like in right now,

875
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: there's this company called Socios which is trying to get

876
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: sock or fans to buy things called fan tokens where

877
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: they're trying to be like, and this is you like

878
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: giving access to your favorite soccer club by buying a

879
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: fan token. You can trade them with other ones and

880
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: they have value. All it is. It's really just trying

881
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: to normalize people getting using crypto. That's really what the

882
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: that's the underlying thing about n f t s are

883
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: it's like, well, ship and not enough people give a

884
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 1: funk about investing in crypto. What if we start saying

885
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,479
Speaker 1: these little pictures you can buy that's an investment now,

886
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: And that's a way to get people to start saying like, oh,

887
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: well it's this much ethereum or this much bitcoin or whatever,

888
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: and it's a gateway into sort of understanding crypto better,

889
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: just to bring more people into the crypto crypto bubble basically,

890
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: and you have things that make it sort of appealing

891
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, you might not care about crypto,

892
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: but what if you bought this fan token for Manchester

893
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: United and now you've you've used a little bit of crypto,

894
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: you're understanding, Oh, I can sell this to someone else.

895
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: But again, all of these n f t s rely

896
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: on the idea that you don't have ship unless you

897
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: find somebody who's willing to ay more than you did

898
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: for the ship that you have because it's not a

899
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: tangible good or service. So you're relying on like this,

900
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: this like hype market to keep ship going in and

901
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: keep your ship profitable. And I think that's like what

902
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, many you know they

903
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: call null coiners who are like big crypto skeptics. Is

904
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: is big crypto people call them are just pointing the

905
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: fact is like this gives you nothing, This is like

906
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: this is regulative investment. Yeah, And you know, again, I

907
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: think for all the reasons why people say it could

908
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: work decentralized, you know, like it's not tied to a

909
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: central like a government like federal agency or something like that,

910
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: all you see are the bad instances of it, or

911
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: that they're just many bad actors who are scamming and

912
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: using it to potentially, you know, hide ill gotten gains,

913
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: and you're only seeing the bad elements of it now,

914
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: and most people like, yeah, can you can see the potential,

915
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: But what we have right now is not it's potential.

916
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: We're seeing the worst of it. And you know, markets

917
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: can be controlled by put aventually a few hands, like

918
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: a small handful of people that were not really aware

919
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: of because we don't know who owns most of the ship. Also,

920
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: it's really bad for the environment. That's the I remember

921
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: I told my mom because my mom was talking about, Oh,

922
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this project with somebody and it's

923
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: going to be an n f T and I was like, Okay, Mom,

924
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't think you know this, so I'm just telling

925
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: you n f T s are actually really bad for

926
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: the environment. I could hear her brain working. She's like,

927
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand. It's not a thing I can touch.

928
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: So how is it bad for the environment Because all

929
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: these people minting coins are mining coins all that energy

930
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: that it takes, and that's the other thing. And now

931
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: you have the other part is where two people are

932
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: just making their own coins because just basically just redistribute wealth,

933
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: being like, hey, I got my dummy followers to pay

934
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: a bunch of money for a coin that isn't gonna

935
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: be worth ship. But guess what now I have all

936
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: the fucking money. All right, It's worked out for me.

937
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: So the way I worked with this Fury guy who

938
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: originally drew Pepe, he drew this made a hundred of

939
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: these n f t s of Naked Pepe said, I'm

940
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: only releasing one that one person paid five hundred thousand

941
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: dollars for that, and then you could scamp two kids

942
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: into UFC for five dollars exactly. And then the doll

943
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: later released forty six of f t s for free.

944
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: So now the auction winner is suing Fury, claiming that

945
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: the free n f t s have diminished the value

946
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: of his n f T and like, but this is

947
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: this is the thing with and then it's like, but

948
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: the whole point of this is that it's unregulated, and

949
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: so it makes it very complicated. And and again, just

950
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: to reiterate the thing allegedly being devalued, here is an

951
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: erotic jpeg of racism's cartoon mascot. But like, on a

952
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: broader scale, there's this article in Jacobin about how you know,

953
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: because one of the design features of crypto and n

954
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: f t s and all bitcoin is that like it's

955
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: not something that can be regulated. It's not something that

956
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: is regulated basically, and like that's something that sounds great

957
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: because we're like, well, the like big banks are like

958
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: have all this power and determine like who gets to

959
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: borrow money, and like there's all sorts of funked up

960
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: ship that happens when you get big, powerful institutions involved

961
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: with money, and the idea is like we get we

962
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: this gets things outside of those like outside of the

963
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: hands of the existing power players. Is like one of

964
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: the pitches on on crypto. I mean, but like public

965
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: banks are also a thing that would actually benefit the

966
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: people to vote. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't about community banking now, no, no, no,

967
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: no crypto, metaverse, metaverse, real estate made the computer and

968
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: so old. Whenever somebody talks about anything related to Web three,

969
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: I was just like, I didn't know. I didn't even

970
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: know we were on Web two. I thought we all

971
00:55:54,360 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: had one webbing one web. Well, well that's how I feel,

972
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I think that's a

973
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: design feature to make people feel old and dumb because

974
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: it like doesn't make sense, but it gets like it

975
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: gets people investing because there is this one sort of

976
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: value proposition, which is it's unregulated and it like has

977
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: a token that is not going to be replicated, so

978
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: and that is yours. It's an Internet like based or

979
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: a digital based token like, so that is the thing.

980
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: But then it's surrounded by all these like clouds and

981
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: clouds of intricate market dynamics that are just the same

982
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: as the other market dynamics that make banking like you know, lopsided.

983
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: And also the other issue is like if you've ever

984
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: been on a forum that's not moderated, like sounds great

985
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: in theory, we can say whatever we want get in there,

986
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: it's almost always nazis. Almost always nazis just almost always

987
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: a very hostile place for anyone who is not like

988
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: just a brutal, like misogynist. And hope for the future

989
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: is that we get unregulated message boards where it's all

990
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 1: people sharing like bread recipes like that. That's what I want.

991
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: I want that like happy like British bake off, unregulates board, right,

992
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: rather than nude peppi and racial slurs being blasted everything

993
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: like no thank you, just bread. So a lot of

994
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: the a lot of donations that are being made to

995
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: Ukraine right now are being made in crypto, and like,

996
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: again that seemed like in theory cool, in practice, that

997
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: actually makes it easier for Russian oligarchs to get their

998
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: hands on the money, since the entire point of crypto

999
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: is to be free from the sorts of regulations that

1000
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: are being used to put them financially. And another detail

1001
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: that I hadn't realized is that crypto is largely mined

1002
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: in Russian border countries that are like former Soviet nations,

1003
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: and there's a long history of the profits going to

1004
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: right wing dictators or right wing you know, militias. The

1005
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: profits go to them. The work is being extracted from

1006
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: the people. And also the energy grids. There was I

1007
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: think kazakhstand head like these massive uprisings because their energy

1008
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: grid kept going down because of all of the crypto

1009
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: being mined there, and like people died in those and

1010
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: it's a hundred and sixty four people were killed falling

1011
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: protested by the energy crisis in Kazakhstan. And that's of

1012
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: the energy produced locally, mainly with coal, is used to

1013
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: mind bitcoin. So it's like the people are having value

1014
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: extracted from them in very dangerous ways and then it

1015
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: ends up flowing to you know, like I I don't

1016
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: think it's an accident that the like white supremacist Pepe

1017
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: n f T people who got mad that they got

1018
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: shut down signed their thing as Vladimir Vladimir Vich like

1019
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: there it seems like, you know, the this article in

1020
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: jack Ben, which will link off to, does a good

1021
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: job of just outlining all the ways that history has

1022
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: shown that crypto enthusiasts tend to support. They they say

1023
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: TikTok despots and the things go to the right generally

1024
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: ISIS operations have been fund to Taliban and Afghanistan, uh

1025
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: tyrannical president and now style the door in Ethiopia, Kazakhstan

1026
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: and Putin like a Putin wingman from Belarus has also

1027
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: been Yeah, it has also been calling on his countrymend

1028
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: to my bitcoin for economic development. Again though like very old,

1029
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: very funny that you mean, I'm just like, practically, how

1030
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: do you get that money? Like if I send if

1031
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: I send money to Ukraine for people to seek refuge,

1032
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: what are they doing with that money? How are they

1033
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: getting actual money that they can spend on things like

1034
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, bread, a thing that I'm obsessed with today. Apparently, Yeah,

1035
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean they mine the coins and then I think,

1036
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: you know that coin has value, but they're usually mining

1037
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: it for someone and nobody. But I'm saying, if you're

1038
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: sending it to another wallet, they can they can like

1039
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: liquidate it so it turns to cash. It has cash value,

1040
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: that's an exchange like on like coin base or these

1041
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: other places. That's where you trade the that's where you

1042
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: trade it, and that's why it's all. The other thing

1043
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: though too is like even you know, they have said

1044
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: that like bigger coin exchanges have followed like the sanctions,

1045
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: so it's definitely not easy for oligarch to move like

1046
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: tons of money because like big coins like big cooin

1047
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: and in Ethereum or like public enough, they'd be like, whoa,

1048
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: that's a massive amount of like funds moving around that

1049
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: people would be able to see pretty clearly. But yeah,

1050
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: it is. There's just all these things point to not great.

1051
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: And also like when you even look at like board

1052
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: the board ape thing we talked about how the person

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Speaker 1: who was designing those, a lot of extremist people who

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Speaker 1: are like very versed in semiotics are like, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of like Nazi ship in this board a B

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Speaker 1: n F T and we're like no, no, And you know, meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: you have people like fucking Paris Hilton and Jimmy Fallon,

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Speaker 1: like you know, fucking for them as the crowd like

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Speaker 1: treats it like like they just revealed a puppy that

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Speaker 1: that is still the weirdest, like kind of crystallization of

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Speaker 1: the weird fucking moment that we're in culturally is. But

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Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it yet, just go watch Harris

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Speaker 1: Hilton on Fallon where they're revealing their board apes to

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Speaker 1: each other and the crowdy is like huh but then

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Speaker 1: trying to being encouraged to do. Yeah. There's just this

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Speaker 1: quote here though, I just want to read that kind

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Speaker 1: of sums it all up. Jackson Palmer, co creator of

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Speaker 1: doge coin, which is a top ten cryptocurrency, used to

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Speaker 1: be a joke now like literally a top ten cryptocurrency,

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Speaker 1: describes it this way, says, after years of studying it,

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Speaker 1: I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right wing, hyper

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Speaker 1: capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its

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Speaker 1: proponents through a combination of tax a woudance, diminished regulatory oversight,

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Speaker 1: and artificially enforced scarcity. Like I feel like that from

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Speaker 1: the dog's lips. Yeah, yeah, much scary, very capitalist. Yeah uh, well,

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Speaker 1: we can't top that. Karma has been such a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you. Where can people find you and follow you?

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Speaker 1: People can find me at Karama Drama on Twitter. K

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Speaker 1: O r A m A d R A m A.

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Speaker 1: And I'm catched the new season of I Carly, which

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Speaker 1: drops April eight on Paramount Plus. Watched the old one.

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Speaker 1: I have an episode there, yeah, yeah, amazing. No, the

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Speaker 1: old season of the new I Carle. To be clear,

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Speaker 1: I did not write in any episodes on the original

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Speaker 1: I Carley. I was a child when you were twelve.

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Speaker 1: Is there a tweet or some other work of social

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Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yes, so, Jennie Hogan tweeted, no ship,

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Speaker 1: your baby is crying. You just announced her weight to

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Speaker 1: a group of strangers. And I've never identified with something

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Speaker 1: more as somebody who has had my weight and I

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Speaker 1: had stupid bush Rangers and then grade. It's top here.

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Speaker 1: Now's a baby as an adult, right not Miles. Where

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Speaker 1: can people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles every Also

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Speaker 1: the new podcast Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosts and

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Speaker 1: NBA podcast right now, right here, I'll say the name

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Speaker 1: out loud. I'll say the name out loud. Yes, I'll

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Speaker 1: keep saying it to get everybody's just just keep you

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Speaker 1: uh in, just pins and needles with suspense, premiering March

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Speaker 1: thirty one, and yes it's gonna be you know, fun

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Speaker 1: basketball show that the NBA said, Yes, we're okay with

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Speaker 1: these two goofballs hosting a podcast called Miles and Jack

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Speaker 1: Got Mad Boostis and NBA podcast aries. I'm so excited,

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Speaker 1: hard headed, hard headed. I love shout out Ram Gang Okay, um,

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Speaker 1: let's see. And also for twenty days was Beyonce with

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Speaker 1: Sophie Alexander obviously where we talk ninety day because that's

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Speaker 1: how we heal ourselves with trash TV. Some tweets that

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Speaker 1: I like, let me see. Oh, Brandy Posey at Brand

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Speaker 1: Dazzle tweeted, my sixty nine year old dad just asked

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Speaker 1: me if I knew who Joe Logan was. I just

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Speaker 1: love that Joe Logan God love. Just a slight tweak

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Speaker 1: from an old boomer mind. And at the Library Louse tweeted,

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Speaker 1: are you okay? Oh my god, no, but for the

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Speaker 1: purposes of this conversation, yes, I'm fine. Spot on um

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Speaker 1: all right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack

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Speaker 1: Underscore O'Brien, and I gotta shout out Miles and I

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Speaker 1: have a new NBA podcast. If I just did a

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Speaker 1: fully new, just another plug for it. But yeah, check

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Speaker 1: out Myles and Jack. I'm met boost He's coming March one.

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Speaker 1: Some tweets I've been enjoying. Somebody did one of those,

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Speaker 1: like retweet in this thread, like the tweets that you

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Speaker 1: can't forget and got it. Just a bunch of great ones.

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Speaker 1: Leon from to Thousan fifteen Socrates, I'm wiser than this man.

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Speaker 1: He fancies he knows something although he knows nothing. Darryl

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Speaker 1: Socrates his friend, Fuck them up, Socrates, Socrates, you know

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Speaker 1: Socrates at a friend named Darryl. And then I'll just

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Speaker 1: go with this one. Victor Or Wine Trout from May

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Speaker 1: tweeted whispering to crying baby. You have no idea dark

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Speaker 1: to a lot of crime, baby, but we're all crime

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Speaker 1: babies on the inside. You can find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at daily Zeitgeist. We're at the dailies I Geist on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have Facebook fan page and website daily Zeitgeist dot com.

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Speaker 1: Morey post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off

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Speaker 1: to the information of the way talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy it. Today,

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Speaker 1: let's do an artist from ben Okay in Africa, Rema,

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Speaker 1: who's a big afrobeats artist, and this is a remix

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Speaker 1: from the unfortunately passed away Virgil a Blow with Fella

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Speaker 1: Kuti and it's really interesting the way Virgil like he

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Speaker 1: he matches up water no get enemy with this track

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Speaker 1: from Rema. So it's got it's this weird. It's this

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Speaker 1: really interesting conversation between and current afrobeat artist and obviously

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Speaker 1: the legend himself, Fella. And it's a great track. Ghana baby,

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Speaker 1: you know aaba, you know what I mean, shout out

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Speaker 1: you know. I'm a Bruni when I'm there, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's all good. Every time I'm there, they say I'm Arab,

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Speaker 1: but I get it. I got called Brounie one time

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Speaker 1: when I was in town and I was like, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to do that. Just for the record, Bronie

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Speaker 1: means white person. Literally all I'm in please, let's not yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly right. My name is Kwame. I was born on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: The fun you talking about. So shout out all my

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Speaker 1: games out there, Shout out the black stars, shout out

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Speaker 1: star beer. You know what I mean. Okay, okay so much.

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Speaker 1: I love stop or, as I was learned to say,

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Speaker 1: they're like, what's star, I'm like, I'm sorry, stop here,

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Speaker 1: Thank you again. Peace of Mind Virgil Apple Remix with

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Speaker 1: Fella Couti. Al Right, well go check that out. The

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Speaker 1: Daily Zey Guys is a production of Heart Radio from

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Speaker 1: More Podcast. For my Heart Radio, visit her radio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: That is gonna do it for us this morning, but

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Speaker 1: we are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you all then. Bye bye