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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Chris Raybond of the Action Network, and this is our

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Stockwatch episode ahead of preseason Week two. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about everyone who's rising, who's falling in our ranks

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Speaker 2: after a week of preseason, and also some free agency

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Speaker 2: moves as well. Here to break it down down with

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Speaker 2: me one of the top rankers in the game, Sean Kerner, Sean,

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Speaker 2: what's going up?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Definitely had an exciting week one of preseason. Had a

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Speaker 3: blast going to the Battle of La with you. You know,

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Speaker 3: we lost some bets on that game, but no big deal.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, how about you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah man, I'm hyped.

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Speaker 2: You know, Dalvin cook Is finally has signed to a

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Speaker 2: team I've been waiting for Zeke's on to a team,

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Speaker 2: so we got a lot to talk about. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: data Rams Chargers preseason game. I think we'd have fifty

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Speaker 1: Justin Bennett was bawling.

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Speaker 2: So Quentin Johnson catch a tuddy h Who else do

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man.

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Speaker 2: So but let's get into uh, let's get into all

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Speaker 2: of our rises and followers. We're gonna start with the

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Speaker 2: risers and these they are just gonna be guys who,

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Speaker 2: whether it's because of preseason, whether it's because of moves

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Speaker 2: of preseason and head into week two. So I guess

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Speaker 2: we should start with some quarterbacks in the first one.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, you know, we saw him play a few

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Speaker 2: been named the week one starter by Shane Stike and

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Speaker 2: the head coach of the Indianapolis Coast, And I think

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Speaker 2: that's what we all wanted to hear, because you know,

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Speaker 2: there's a big difference between you know, him starting in

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Speaker 2: and him getting that week one start, it significantly raises

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Oh, yeah, for sure, I think

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Speaker 3: maybe QB eleven. But you know, I was waiting for

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought he looked good. He had that really.

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Speaker 3: Ugly interception, but I think the receiver ran the wrong

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Speaker 3: So I think that's what the coaching staff was looking for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the final numbers, you're right, they don't look too impressive,

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Speaker 2: And now this just kind of removes probably some of

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Speaker 2: Top twelve quarterback Anthony Richardson based on this news. Now,

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Speaker 2: Let's not even go down this road already preseason we

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Speaker 1: The good thing is out out out with That's totally

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Speaker 3: He went nine for twelve for seventy seven yards in

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Speaker 2: I'm watching it. He dropped that white open fifteen yard catchy,

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Speaker 2: And uh, you uh liked what you saw out of

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Speaker 3: So you know, he's being drafted still like you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Naji he hasn't missed a game so far,

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Speaker 1: Snow, like it's this is happening. Uh Okay. That Titan

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Speaker 3: that that game, yeah has something else.

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Speaker 2: So the guy I want to talk about and Herbert,

436
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 2: I mean it's probably fair to say his stock rises

437
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: a little bit. I mean anytime you have a long

438
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: touchdown run, I mean I think that's a good time.

439
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 2: But the Titans backfield behind Derrick Henry. Is interesting because

440
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: Henry gets so many carries that if he ever got hurt,

441
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 2: there would be so many carries up for grabs. Taj Spears,

442
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 2: the rookie wa do you see from him?

443
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked great, and you know, I think that

444
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: he seems to be the favorite to be you know,

445
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry's backup, and like I said, he could take

446
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 3: over that third down role that we saw like Dtre

447
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: Hilliard Jeremy McNichols had, you know, the past couple of seasons,

448
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: and you know, they drafted him in the third round

449
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 3: knowing you know, he doesn't have an ACL and he

450
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: has arthritis in one of his knees, and like I've said,

451
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 3: I don't that doesn't have anything to do with his

452
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 3: value this season. I think he's going to be really

453
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 3: good in the first few years of his career. He

454
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: was one of my favorite backs in this class. I

455
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: think that I don't see him playing, you know, into

456
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: his late twenties. That's basically what his medical history suggests is,

457
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: you know, he's not going to have a long career,

458
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 3: but he's going to be very good in the few

459
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: years he does play. So he's a back where you know,

460
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 3: if if Derrick Henry were to go down or potentially

461
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: I don't know it's traded in season, you know, he

462
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 3: could offer RB two value. So I was just impressed

463
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: to see him at the NFL level and I think

464
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 3: he is making a good case for the backup, especially

465
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: with you know, Haskins dealing with some legal issues and

466
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: things like that, where I think, you know, Spears is

467
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 3: definitely the best back on the roster outside of Derrick Henry.

468
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: Obviously we don't have this.

469
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: Guy written down. Totally agree on Spears, but we don't

470
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: have this guy written down. But in the same game,

471
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Speaker 2: I do want to touch on Rashawn Johnson Roshawn Johnson,

472
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: the rookie for Chicago, because he got twelve carries tournament

473
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: to forty seven yards, also caught a couple of balls.

474
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 2: Just any thoughts on him. You know, he missed for

475
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: I think for miss tackles and he thought. Do you

476
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: think he helped or hurt his case at all with

477
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: his performance?

478
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: I think he helped it. I love him as a talent.

479
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 3: You know, it was unfortunately he had to back up

480
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: Bijon at Texas, but that just means he doesn't have

481
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: much tread on his tire, says a rookie, so he

482
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: is more than capable of being a workhorse back. I

483
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: think he's more in competition with Deontay Foreman. I think

484
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: Deontay Foreman is there just this sort of like a

485
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: safety net in case Herbert and Johnson kind of struggle

486
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: this year. At least they have Foreman. But I think

487
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: Johnson could absolutely, you know, push for the number two

488
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 3: rule or even overtake Herbert. Like he's that good. So

489
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 3: I think it is gonna be a pretty volatile backfield.

490
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: But I was definitely encouraged with Johnson's debut. But I've

491
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: always thought, you know, he's he's a really good talent.

492
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: So maybe he's more on He's on more people's radar now,

493
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: so his ADP might go up. But you know, it

494
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: was pretty much what I expect him from him.

495
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this this back here is another one with

496
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot of moving parts because I suspect that

497
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: this could be a team that has four running backs

498
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: active on game day. You know, they have a fullback

499
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: in blazing game, and then they also have like Travis

500
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 2: Homer and Trestan Ebner, who I feel like are competing

501
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: for a similar role like special teams hurry up. But

502
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: that you know, if if if one of those two

503
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: guys is going to be active on game day, that

504
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: it's possible that Rashon, Roshan, and Foreman are kind of

505
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: competing for one role and one or one of them

506
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: could be a healthy scratch, you know, each each Sunday

507
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: or each each week. So there's still a lot to

508
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: kind of figure out here. So that's one where I'll

509
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: definitely be kind of paying attention to the beat writers

510
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: and you know, what's going on in practice and things

511
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: like that.

512
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought I thought Roshan looked looked pretty good.

513
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: Uh. Another guy we didn't have written down, but I

514
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: do want to mention before we move on from running

515
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: backs is ty Chandler U for Minnesota. You know, he

516
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 2: McBride is the rookie and it just seems like it

517
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: hasn't been going well for him in camp. Apparently this

518
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: offense is, even for running backs, is somewhat complex.

519
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Sough.

520
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: You know, Chandler and Wangu have the leg up, but

521
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: Chandler's the one who you know got you know, double

522
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: digit carries, averaged a pretty good amount after contact, looked

523
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: pretty good. Any thoughts, any thoughts on on what you

524
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: saw from him, and that's a game against Seattle.

525
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I liked him. I had the over on

526
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: his player pick, and you know, I think.

527
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: That he could he could sneak.

528
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: In as like the third down back, Like there's a

529
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 3: path for him to have value even when Madison is healthy.

530
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: And look, I think this backfield's pretty volatile. I don't

531
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: think Madison's a lock for the starting job all season,

532
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: and Chandler does have that upside to be, you know,

533
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: a true three down back.

534
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: And yeah, Dwayne McBride.

535
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 3: You know, he's more of like Alexander Madison's direct replacement.

536
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: I due him as more of a early down grinder,

537
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 3: so I just don't see him factoring in on third

538
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 3: downs much. So I think Chandler has a path for

539
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 3: value even with Madison is healthy. So I was encouraged

540
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: by what I saw. He does have that kind of upside.

541
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: So it's nice to see it coming together. But this

542
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: this backfield, like definitely investing in these backups. I think

543
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: lighton drafts is you know, a sharp thing to do.

544
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: And I think right now Chandler is the favorite to

545
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: be the number two back I'm actually a.

546
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: Lot more confident in Madison than I think the consensus is.

547
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: I from everything I'm here and see it, I think

548
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: Minnesota does intend to give Madison the job for the

549
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: entire year, and I think they intend to treat him

550
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: like Dalvin Cook. I think if they're bringing in another back,

551
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: it's to play the Madison role from last year where

552
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: it was like twenty five percent of the snaps, which

553
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: was less than we expected to be. Frank you know,

554
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: we probably thought he was gonna get more like thirty

555
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: thirty five, maybe even forty percent, but he was more

556
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: of like a strict to like twenty five percent guy,

557
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: played a little more in the past game than.

558
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: We thought he would.

559
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: But I think that's if they don't sign a guy

560
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: like Kareem Hunt to do that, I think you're gonna

561
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: see probably Chandler just be the Madison of last year

562
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: and Madison be the Cook. But I think, you know

563
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: the way Kevin O'Connell, you know, from what I know

564
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: about him, I think he I think he's gonna just

565
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: like Hammer as starters like I think they're I think

566
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: they're just gonna use Madison all year, run him into

567
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: the ground. Maybe this year and next and then figure

568
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: it out from there. But yeah, I know a lot

569
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: of people are kind of worried about Madison, but I'm

570
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: I'm really not. I don't think he's the Like, I

571
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: don't think he's an amazing running back, but I think

572
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: I think he's definitely got enough, especially in that offense

573
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: where where he's not gonna get.

574
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: Himself bench or anything like that. Like I say, I don't,

575
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's.

576
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: Gonna overtake because from what I hear, like Chandler and

577
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: McBride and Wanghu were pretty far behind Madison. It's just

578
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: that Chandler has now separated from the other guys. But

579
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: I still think there's a pretty big gap. Uh Okay,

580
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: So those are the running backs.

581
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: Let's see what. Let's go to wide receivers.

582
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: I mean, we gotta start with Tank Dell right, Like

583
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: he I'm already convinced that he's the best receiver on

584
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: of Texans. I saw all I needed to see, Like

585
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: this dude got targeted six times on nineteen routes, caught

586
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: five for sixty five and a pretty wild touchdown catch.

587
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: And you know, obviously don't want to overreact the preseason.

588
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: But this is one of those situations where I think

589
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 2: there's something to gain by kind of being a little risky,

590
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: you know, because we don't really know how that Texans

591
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: target chair is gonna break down, and there might not

592
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: be room for more than one guy on, you know,

593
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 2: to be a fantasy relevant guy. And if I had

594
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: to pick one at this point, I would probably go

595
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Tank Del If he asked me, like a week or

596
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: two ago, it'd probably be Nico Collins. But I just

597
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: feel like the style of receiver that Dell is, you

598
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: can move him around, he's gonna get open more. And

599
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: you know, Nico had like a twenty two percent target

600
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: per route last year, but that doesn't really fit the

601
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: kind of receiver he is. I think that was more

602
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: due to the fact that Cooks was missing time and

603
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 2: you know, they didn't really have much a tight end.

604
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Tank Gal his stock goes way up.

605
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: For me, I thought he was gonna be like a gay.

606
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: I think we both talked about this, like you you

607
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 2: loved him as like a high upside gadget guy, but

608
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: I don't think either of us thought that he like

609
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: he might be. In the conversation to start and we

610
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: or and or lead this team of targets.

611
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, this is a wide receiver of the

612
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: room that's wide open. Liked what I saw that. That's

613
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: kind of what I was expecting from him. You know,

614
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: a really good yach kind of player. Get that touchdown

615
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: potential touchdown catch was amazing.

616
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: Like, he's a good receiver.

617
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: I think that he will have to compete with Robert

618
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: Woods and John Matchi early in the season, whereas Nico

619
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: Collins doesn't really have any competition for like a big

620
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: outside receiver. That's that's why I still think Nico Collins

621
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: is probably the favorite to lead the team and fancy

622
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: points this year. But Tank Dell has some serious upside.

623
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, I loved what I saw. I think when

624
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: he was getting most of his catches, that's when some

625
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: of the starters were out of the game. But either way,

626
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: just massive upside because there's no clear number one targeting

627
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: this offense. Even Dalton Schultz I don't think is a

628
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: lock to be, you know, a top two target or anything.

629
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, very encouraged with what I saw from Tank

630
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: Dell early on.

631
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some some of it is just like especially

632
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: I've learned his situations like this, Like I remember it

633
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: was a couple of years ago, and it was twenty nineteen,

634
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: so it was Terry mclaurin's rookie year, and I remember

635
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: he didn't I don't even know if he played much

636
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: in the preseason. He might have even missed like the

637
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: first game of the regular season. But I just remember thinking,

638
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: like there's nobody really betters in him on Washington, Like

639
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: I think they had a telegon harmon at the time,

640
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: and and you know, and the same thing with Marky

641
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: Brown on the Ravens that year. You know, like when

642
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: when you know a guy is good and like you

643
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: watched him play, whether it's at college or in the pros,

644
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 2: like you could just kind of picture him, like if

645
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: you put every Houston receiver on the field together, like

646
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: Nico Woods Shoals, like whoever you want for a Mechi

647
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: like who and Dell, Like who's getting the most targets?

648
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: Like my money would be on Dell, Like starters, reserves

649
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But I just think he could would get

650
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: open more than those guys.

651
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's very talented.

652
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: I think John Metchi is the only one that like

653
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: had a first round type pedigree, He didn't play much.

654
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: I think they are easing him him in, but he

655
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: he has a ton of upside as well. I think

656
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: what we're trying to say is don't drop draft Robert

657
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: Woods anymore.

658
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't think we were, but yeah, it's I mean, honestly,

659
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm really this.

660
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: It definitely does worry me about Nico a little bit,

661
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: just because I don't think the environment is going to

662
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: be the same as last year.

663
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: Like even if like.

664
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: Nico, even if Dell you know, and Nico can coexist,

665
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: like there still are all these other guys, like you

666
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: said Mechi's still there and Schultz is gonna you know,

667
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: Like it's just I don't love the environment anymore for

668
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: Nico the way I did, you know, with with another

669
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: receiver kind of flashy, Like I liked it better when

670
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: you just had like washed Robert Woods. And like Mechi,

671
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: who is kind of a guy who's probably gonna be

672
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: you know, brought eased in and know he went through

673
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: a lot, so I'm rooting for the guy. But who

674
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: knows exactly where he's caause I heard he's having somewhat

675
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: of a rough camp, Like I know, Dell is definitely

676
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: kind of beating him out so far. So you know,

677
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: so Nico I, I'm a little worried about Nicos is

678
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And I'm raising Tank Dell a lot.

679
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: YEA makes sense.

680
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: Another guy at wide receiver that that we both like.

681
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: Johan Dotson. I mean, not much to say here. The

682
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: guy guy's a ball or you kind of mentioned him earlier,

683
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: but he had a dope touchdown double qutch touchdown catch.

684
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I guess the question is, at

685
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: first he was like this guy who wasn't really getting

686
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: targeted that much but just had a nose for the

687
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: end zone. But as a season progressed, he started to

688
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: become a guy that could get you, you know, those

689
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: four catches per game.

690
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: Do you foresee that kind of continuing going forward? Yeah? Absolutely.

691
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: I think the only thing I'm concerned with with him is,

692
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: you know, the potential for touchdown aggression, especially if Sam

693
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: Hell's rugs. But again, I liked what I saw out

694
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: of Howell and limited action this week. He had really

695
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: good chemistry with Dotson, so some of those concerns were

696
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: you know, wiped out after that. So I think Dotson's

697
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: a really talented receiver who can get open, and I

698
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: think he's a good compliment across from Terry McLaurin. So yeah,

699
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: I think wide receiver thirty seven might be a tad high,

700
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: I guess, but like the talent is certainly there, and

701
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: if Howell can you know, have a good year or

702
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: two breakout, certainly worth it. But there's no question in

703
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: terms of Dotson's talent.

704
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would say, similar to Deontay, there's

705
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: there's a non zero chance that Dotson, like he could

706
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: overtake Terry. As much as I love Terry, especially when

707
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: you see these guys that like Dotson scored seven touchdowns

708
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: on sixty one targets last year, Like he just had

709
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: a nose for the end zone, and that kind of translates,

710
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: I think into like some of his skills that you

711
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: know could apply all over the field came out in

712
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: some of those touchdown catches. So yeah, he's He's a

713
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: guy I'm watching very close and pretty bullish on a

714
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: couple guys in that Packer game, Jayden, I mean they

715
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: went Hamston Fangles put up a big number. Jaden Reed

716
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: and Luke Musgrave, two rookies who may start right away.

717
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: What'd you see from now?

718
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jade Reed looks like he has the starting slot

719
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: role locked up. He had two catches for twenty yards.

720
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: You know, he's a guy I think they're gonna give

721
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: design Rush attempts to so, you know, he is looking

722
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: like a really good late round draft pick, has a

723
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: really high floor for late round player, has a ton

724
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: of upside too. I think he's gonna be really good

725
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: after the catch. And same thing with Luke Musgrave. He

726
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: didn't play that much, but he didn't have to. He

727
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: got targeted heavily when he was on the field. Both

728
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: he and Chris Watson led the team with three targets

729
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: when Jordan Love was on the field, so clearly, you know,

730
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: Love likes targeting Musgrave. So I think Musgrave is he's

731
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: a lock for the Week one starting role and you

732
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: can still get him outside the top thirty. So I

733
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: was very encouraged with what I saw from him and

734
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: Jade Red.

735
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked what I saw as well.

736
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: I know, you know, Samari Terray has also been kind

737
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: of getting work at that number three receiver role, but

738
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: you know, I would think that that Reid can beat

739
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: him out of though Terray, you know, played pretty decently

740
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: as well.

741
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: So that is something to kind of watch.

742
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: But I think either way, like what I've been hearing,

743
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: those are unequivocally the top four. So I don't expect

744
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: guys like you know, Don Tavian Wis and Jada Bonds

745
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: and all those guys to break the rotation at least

746
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: anytime soon.

747
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: Anyone. Oh.

748
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: The last guy we want to talk about real quick

749
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: is Jake Ferguson. He he really solidified. I think he

750
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: has solidified that that number one tight.

751
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: End job for the Cowboys, Yeah, for sure, because you know,

752
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: with Screwmaker, the rookie, the second round rookie been dealing

753
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: with planner fresci itis, so he hasn't been able to

754
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: practice much camp, which really puts him behind the curve.

755
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: So I think Ferguson is training to be the week

756
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: one starter and put potentially take over much of the

757
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz role. And Ferguson was playing on third downs

758
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 3: against the Jaguars, so I just think he has the

759
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: clearest path right now to take over that role. This

760
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: is still a situation that could be murky, Like I

761
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: think Screwmaker could make some noise later in the season

762
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 3: once once he you know, gets more playing time, practice time,

763
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: things like that. But as of now, it looks like

764
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: Ferguson's the tight end of target out of Dallas.

765
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had three targets for three targets, three catches

766
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: thirty eight yards on just eight routes run and was

767
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: whipped by far and away the best player on the

768
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: entire Cows offense what he is in the game.

769
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's really you hit on.

770
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: The key point is that, you know, I think at

771
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: first we were kind of trying to figure out, you know, okay,

772
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: at what point is maybe Schoolmaker going to take over?

773
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: I think at this point it's more like will Ferguson

774
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: just you know, play like seventy five eighty percent of

775
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: snap adult Schultz and then Hendershot keep the same row

776
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: and schoon Maker swat into that like number three row

777
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: like Hendershot was last year. Because I think right now

778
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: that's what I'm weeding toward, and especially because I'm hearing

779
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, not to say that I

780
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: put too much weight on it, but you know, combined

781
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: with the eye test, I think it's you know, I'm

782
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: hearing that that Ferguson really, you know, he's kind of

783
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: more of the starter than a guy who's going to

784
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: be in.

785
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: A CA Yeah.

786
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's he's not like the greatest athlete, but

787
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: neither was Dalton Schultz. I think this is just more

788
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: of a system, you know, a good system for tight end.

789
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: So I don't see any reason why he couldn't at

790
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: least somewhat replicate like I don't know eighty percent of

791
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: Schultz's you know, production that we saw when he was Dallas.

792
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, right now, Like Ferguson had some flashes last year,

793
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 3: but he looked a lot better in camp and during

794
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 3: this limited action, so very encouraged with his Week one performance.

795
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both kind of day three picks, you know.

796
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: So Schultz was like a fourth round pick and so

797
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: was Ferguson, So it's kind of you know, yep, similar guy.

798
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: It's not like Soults was just like far and away

799
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: better than Ferguson or anything like that. Ferguson could just

800
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,359
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829
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Speaker 2: the guys who not so good not so good after

830
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: one week of preseason. And let's start with a guy

831
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 2: that I've been warning people about.

832
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: I've been warning people about.

833
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: This dude, and I mean, I still think he's great,

834
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: but I feel like the this signing kind of cements it.

835
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: And that's Dalvin Cook to the New York Jets. Not

836
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: great for it, Breeese Hall's ultimate ceiling. How are you

837
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: kind of treating this backfield and adjusting with the signing

838
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: of Cook for the New York Jets.

839
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just a massive blow to Breese Hall's

840
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: fancy value. Goes without saying this could mean that his

841
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: knee isn't quite ready for the start of the season.

842
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: You know, they might just want to limit him for

843
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: the entire twenty twenty three seasons. So they wanted to

844
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: bring it back in like Dalvin Cook, you know, to

845
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: split carries with. So you know, I'm it's also not

846
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: great landing spot for Dalvin Cook either, honestly, because I

847
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: mean I can see this being a true fifty to

848
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: fifty split once Breese Hall's you know, culture one hundred percent.

849
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: So I dropped Bristol all the way down to like

850
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: RB twenty four and I have Dalvin around, you know,

851
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: RB thirty. But still we need to find out more

852
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: about like what's going on, how they plan using these guys.

853
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was just a massive blow to Breeshall's value.

854
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's not forget about a condo it's good too.

855
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, but like this is this is a situation

856
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: where we might see Michael Carter be a healthy scratcher, yeah,

857
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: not make the team even though was a pretty entertaining

858
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: guy on Hard Knocks. I must say, one of my

859
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: favorite guys to watch so far. Uh and Zonovian Knight's

860
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: probably good night for Zonovan.

861
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so yeah it changes a lot.

862
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean, but I will say this, you know, and

863
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: you know, I've got to see how Alon Rodgers, you know,

864
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: what's going on with him because he's got a calf

865
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: injury now, so we'll see if we get more updates.

866
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: That's kind of going on as we're recording this.

867
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: But assuming Rogers is good to go, you know, he's

868
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: probably gonna have a lot of freedom to make it

869
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: kind of like the Packers offense, and that probably means

870
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: one of these guys is gonna be the Aaron Jones

871
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: and one of these guys gonna be the dealing like

872
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: not stylistically, but you know, in terms of how the

873
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: Carrie share breaks down. So my guess is that Cook

874
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: would be the Aaron Jones and Wed the backfield. You know,

875
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: if if until Breese Hall gets yeah, back to one

876
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: hundred percent, and then maybe it could fop. But also

877
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook is like a pretty established you know, like

878
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: he has a reputation, is one of the best backs

879
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: in the league. So it's also I don't know how

880
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: you just make them the RB two behind Breese Hall

881
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: even if Hall was healthy. So it's a it's a

882
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: very interesting situation. But my yeah, I think a fifty

883
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: to fifty split or a little higher with Cook getting

884
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: being more like Aaron Jones is probably what I would

885
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 2: what I would absolutely project for that backfield. So yeah,

886
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: twenty four is probably I'm gonna have Reese a little lower,

887
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: like in the you know, closer to thirty, just because

888
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: again I think there's injury risk and just uncertainty with

889
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, but I mean, really we do we

890
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: can't do two We can't do two jet backs in

891
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: the top thirty.

892
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: Can that's kind of course we can? Why not? Why not?

893
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: It's still a jet. They're still having on line issues, like,

894
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: it's still a jet. Aaron Rodgers is like forty eight,

895
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I feel like I feel like we're

896
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: getting a little ahead of ourselves and we're like just

897
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: penciling in this offense to like make weeks in bound jumps,

898
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: Like I think they're gonna be better, but I think we.

899
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: Should be a little bit conservative at the same time.

900
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I just think Bruce Hull's extremely extremely talented.

901
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: I mean, did we have Aaron Jones and aj Dill

902
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: in the top thirty last year? Not that Dylan paid off,

903
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: but you know, I do like your comp with those two,

904
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: So I think that, but they're both like, you know,

905
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: low twenties kind of thing like it it really sucks

906
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: for Dalvin too. I thought Miami would have been been

907
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: a great landing spot or just wait until you know,

908
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: starting running back, we're to go down where you know

909
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: a team would be desperate and sign him. But it's

910
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: you know, I downgraded both guys after this news.

911
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's not the ideal in

912
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: the spot for for Dalvin. But I mean we also

913
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: got to like, if we don't know.

914
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: How healthy Briefe is, Priest isn't healthy, and it could

915
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: be very exactly.

916
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: Uh So that's something that's kind of the jury still out.

917
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: But as of now, Yeah, the big news briefs down

918
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: and don't touch Carter, don't touch Night and Abana Kana

919
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: just probably Slatton is the U. Yeah, like just probably

920
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: should win that third back job. But I mean maybe

921
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: he won't know. Uh Ramandre Stevenson, you know, he's another guy.

922
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: Scott goes down with the Patriots signing Ezekiel Elliott. It

923
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: seems like Elliott probably a good bet for some rolls

924
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: similar to what Damien Harris had. He averaged nine about

925
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: nine and a half carries last year. Thoughts on this

926
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: backfield now with Zeke and je I had.

927
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: Actually mentioned in my tears, I was just urging caution

928
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: drafting Stevenson at like RB eleven or wherever he was

929
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: going before this. Once the Pats started bringing in you know,

930
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: Leonard Fournette, Dalvin Cook, I thought, you know that the

931
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: writings on the wall that they want to add a

932
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: vet to limit Stevenson's workload. And Belichick, we've always known

933
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: he likes having committees. So this is very concerning for Stevenson.

934
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: You know, Zeke, he's not going to like take over

935
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: the starting job. I think what you said hits a

936
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: nail on the head. I think he'll just sort of

937
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: be that Damien Harris role, where you know, he could

938
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 3: take some goal line work. You know, Stevenson only scored

939
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 3: two touchdowns on twelve rush attempts inside the five last year.

940
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: I always say that's either a sign that they're due

941
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: for positive touchdown regression or a sign that they're going

942
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: to lose goal line duties. So I'm afraid it could

943
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 3: be the latter. You know, Zeke is obviously a good

944
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: short yards back, so that that could eat into Stevenson's

945
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: touchdown upside. Plus they probably want to limit his passing

946
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: down work. I've seen them mention that so Zeke's you know,

947
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: good pass blocking back, he could take away some of

948
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 3: the third down works. So this is just a massive

949
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: blow for Stevenson. Like I said last year, it was

950
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: just the perfect storm for him. He had everything go

951
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: his way. Obviously he's a talented back, but with Zeke there,

952
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: it's gonna be much much tougher for him to you know,

953
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: produce high end RB two value where he's being drafted

954
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: right now. So I moved him down quite a bit

955
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: right now. I have him like RB nineteen, RB twenty

956
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: around there. Again, we're waiting to see, you know, if

957
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: we get any more news on how they play on

958
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: using Zeke. But it was definitely a massive blow for

959
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: Stevenson's value.

960
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I think, like Stevenson, the thing

961
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: about it is it's relative though, because I could see

962
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: Stevenson's still getting a similar overall workload.

963
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: To last year.

964
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: You know, he ended up averaging about twelve carry twelve

965
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: and a half carries and about fifty six percent.

966
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: Of the routes.

967
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: I could still see that, you know, Stevenson getting you know,

968
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: eleven ten to thirteen carries a game, Zeke getting eight

969
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: to ten.

970
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: And I think Stevenson with Zekeer.

971
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: I do think Stevenson will that will free Stevenson up

972
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: to be used more in the past game, I think

973
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: it's you know, Montgomery was a guy that was you know,

974
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: he might have factored in before this. Now he's probably out.

975
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: You know, Harris Strong, all those other guys, they're probably out.

976
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: It's probably just Stevenson on passing downs. Uh and you know,

977
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: maybe in kind of a fifty fifty split otherwise. But

978
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: also Zeke just might not really be very good, so

979
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: there's other a chance Stevenson still. Yeah, he has that

980
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: little hidden upside of Zeke just kind of sucking.

981
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: So if you drafted Stevenson at RBO love and you're

982
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: kind of pissed right now. So what's I guess Once

983
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: Stevenson does have his ADP go closer to RB twenty,

984
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: that's when I would invest. Just I haven't been taking

985
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: him at all the past few weeks. But I agree,

986
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 3: I think this could be a potential by low type

987
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: of situation because I do think Stevenson will still be

988
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: a lead back, but it definitely sucks to see that

989
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 3: it's Zeke being the backup and not like Pierre Strong

990
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 3: and Kevin Harris because I think that would have been

991
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: a lot. You know, Stevenson probably would have been a

992
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: low and RB one if that were the case.

993
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: So either way, it does ding him quite a bit.

994
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: But see, this is you know, just going back to

995
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: a guy like Madison. This is why I still like

996
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: a guy like Madison. I'm still a bullish on him

997
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: because we're sitting here talking about guys like Dalvin Cook

998
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: and Breize Hall in a committee from Andre Stevenson in

999
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: the committee. Meanwhile, Alexander Madison is just sitting here on

1000
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: pace to you know, play like eighty percent of.

1001
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 1: The snacks every single week.

1002
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 2: So like, until that changes, I'm gonna be pretty high

1003
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: on Madison because it's just not many of those situations

1004
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: right left in the National Football League. And uh, let's see,

1005
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: I want to get to Uh yeah, let's go. Let's

1006
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: go talk about him. Now we'll close. We'll close with

1007
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: this guy because I think this is the one that's

1008
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: the most relevant.

1009
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: We only got a few minutes left.

1010
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: Greg Dulcis, it looks like we might have got Albert

1011
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: od again already because you know, lo and behold, the

1012
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: Broncos start the preseason game. They're struggling on offense, So

1013
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: they're leaving their starters in, and their starters are playing

1014
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: pretty much almost till the end of the second quarter,

1015
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: and Adam Troutman just keeps getting more and more targets

1016
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: and he's just in there as like the true starting

1017
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 2: tight end, and Dulcis is only coming in on pass downs,

1018
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: which is not quite ideal because he's still gonna miss

1019
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: out on some of those early down like play actions.

1020
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: And you know, he was a guy that had an

1021
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: eighty percent route run per game route participation rate last year.

1022
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: And if you're not starting games, you're not playing on

1023
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: early downs. No way you get anywhere close to eighty,

1024
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: even if you get targeted a lot when you're in there.

1025
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious. It's your thoughts on Dulcis.

1026
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: Do you think, you know, maybe he sells a chance

1027
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: to overtake Troutman again, or you think this is kind

1028
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: of what what it is.

1029
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: I know, this is obviously an ideal development for Dulcic.

1030
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if we've been Albert ode quite yet.

1031
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if he'll be inactive most weeks, but

1032
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: it does look like trout Yeah yeah, yeah, no, but

1033
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: I mean, right, yeah, I know what you mean, though

1034
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: I share the sentiment. It does look like Shuman's gonna

1035
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: be like the starter, but mainly because of his blocking,

1036
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: which again is not great news for Greg Dulcicic. But

1037
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 3: I think Dulcic still has the talent the upside maybe

1038
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: not to be drafting tight end fourteen right now, but

1039
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 3: it would shock me if still at some point during

1040
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: the season he pops up as being a low end

1041
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: tight end one. So I'm not fully off him yet,

1042
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: but yeah, I'm definitely not investing as much at tight

1043
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: end fourteen. I think in that range it's still Tyler

1044
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 3: Higbye for me is sticking out like a sore thumb.

1045
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: But we'll have to wait and see, you know what

1046
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 3: transpires from this. But it was not a great start

1047
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: for Dulphin Dulca troopers like myself.

1048
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I jinxed it because I think we

1049
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: were talking about Dulcic and I was like, I like him.

1050
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: But the only reason I'm not going.

1051
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: Higher because I feel like Troutman might start and yeah,

1052
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: fucking shit, well that's why I take that responsibility.

1053
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: I said the same thing I said.

1054
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: The only concern is it's a new coaching staff where

1055
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 3: they might use these guys in different ways. So I

1056
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: knew that was a possibility. I didn't know it would

1057
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: be Adam Troutman of all people, but it does make sense.

1058
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: He's from the Sean Payton scheme, so not too shocked.

1059
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 3: But again, this this could change week to week and hopefully,

1060
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: hopefully Dulca does you know, pick up where he left

1061
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: off last year. It's it's not looking good, but hopefully

1062
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: that happens at some point.

1063
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: Hey, this just makes a guy like Sam Laporter more valuable,

1064
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee, some of.

1065
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: Those guys you know, because yeah, even a guy like

1066
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 2: gerv Smith, you know, even though you know, I don't

1067
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: expect him to stay completely healthy. I think I'd rather

1068
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: have him as an unquestioned starter in that Cincinnati offense

1069
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: than a guy like Dulcich who could get anywhere.

1070
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: From like the to sixty percent of the stats each week.

1071
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was quite an eventful quite an eventful

1072
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: first week of the preseason.

1073
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: A lot to talk about here. I hope you guys

1074
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: enjoyed it.

1075
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: We'll be back next episode with our Best Ball Strategy

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