1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: My father is forcibly inserting himself into my therapy sessions. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Okayop, this is okay. Ope. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm Samuel Donner and I'm John Fry and we tell 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: the funniest stories on the Internet. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: So, Sam, let me ask you, like if you can 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: remember what's like the biggest like argument or disagreement or 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: like friction that you that you've had between your dad. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 3: I remember one time my dad got really mad at me. 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: I can't remember about something, and I was like it 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: was probably about like cleaning up around the house or 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: something like that, and I said something like I used 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: to think you were. 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: A god and now I know you're just a man. 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: And I was like eleven or something. That's amazing, Oh my. 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: Gosh, and uh uh yeah, I think I think that's the. 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: One that comes to mind. Did you use that exact line? 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: Do you know? 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: Was it was like it was like basically that exact line, right, 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: I mean, something to. 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Be like my superhero and now you're just a mad. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: I think I used I used god and man. I 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: was I was a very philosophical. 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Very eleven year old. Good I was not philosophical at 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: all as a live year old. Oh my goodness. Wow, 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: that's funny. Yeah, I think I was trying to remember. Yeah, 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Like I think one time when I was like, I 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: mean young, like maybe five or so. I was a 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: pretty well behaved kid for the most part, but there 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: was a few instances where I acted out. And I remember, 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: like there was like my legs were too short to 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: you know how you could like kind of sit and 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: like press your feet against door to like keep someone 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: from opening it. I was too short between the distance 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: from like that wall and the door, like my feet 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: couldn't reach. So I remember getting a little chair and 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: then pressing my feet on the chair as hard as 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: I could so he couldn't open the ye I don't 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: want you, But I mean, did he hold him back. 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: I think he was just like, Okay, I'm just gonna 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: let you deal with it. I think it was like 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: at first he was trying to go in, and then 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: after like two seconds, he was like, I'm just gonna 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: let him tire himself out of like deal with this 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: situation later. 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: But you know, they're not Those aren't great. 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: Situations, I would say, but they kind of pale in 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: comparison to the situation that we're about to get into. 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: To that let's hear it. 49 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: My father is forcibly inserting himself into my therapy sessions. 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: Do you don't want your father forcibly inserting anything into anywhere? 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 52 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: Good gravy, you do not, Oh goodness, So god, I 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: sixteen female, have pretty much been shoved into therapy despite 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: my wishes. I understand that therapy is supposed to help, 55 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: but I just don't. 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: Think it's for me. 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: I also think my feelings may change one day, apps 58 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: when I start adulthood officially, which is such a funny, 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: like sixteen year. 60 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: Old essentially adulthood. What is official adulthood? Eighteen? 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's when you're like not a minor anymore. 62 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't feel like an official adult. I also don't 63 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: feel like. 64 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: I feel like a little child. 65 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: Still, definitely for some a lot of needed context about me. 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: I've lived with my father and disabled sister for a 67 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: few years now after my mom pretty much left us 68 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: and chose drugs. 69 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: I'm not really torn up about it. 70 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: We never saw eye to eye, and she pretty much 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: just liked to play video games and leave messes, which 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: is also like what like I feel like a kid 73 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: would do. Yeah, you know, the biggest issues I have 74 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: gone through since she's left. 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: Are these one. 76 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Since mom left, there are even less funds for basic needs. 77 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: We all have some form of disability in my family, 78 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know how much each of us makes, 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: but all the money goes towards the house. I'm not 80 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: allowed to have a job because of my age and 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: because my disability would be taken back by the government. 82 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: I guess, so it seems like actually does happen. Sometimes 83 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: disability actually encourages people to not. 84 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Work right right, Yeah, and especially like I guess she's 85 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: a minor, so that there's probably extra like implications around that. Two, 86 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: because my mom left, I have to take care of 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: my severely disabled sibling by bathing her, changing her adult diapers, 88 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: and even making sure she doesn't eat things that she's 89 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: not allowed to. I feel like I've taken my mom's place, 90 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: and my dad keeps blaming me for every little thing 91 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: my sister does. That's awful, Like she's doing all the 92 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: work as a sixteen year old, and you're like blaming 93 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: her for things that the disabled. 94 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: Year old can barely take care of themselves, Like for real, 95 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: Like I'm count having me that would be insane. 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm tired all the time, I'm failing 97 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: in school and have no desire to really do anything. 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: I used to be a very motivated overachiever, but ever 99 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: since the separation, I zone out constantly and just daydream 100 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: the hours away. I feel like I lost a part 101 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: of me that I'll never get back. Wow, this is sad, Yeah, 102 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: really intense. I also have depression, ADHD and anxiety. A 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: few months ago, not long after Thanksgiving, my dad told 104 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: me that I have to go to therapy place near 105 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: my school every Tuesday. I was not happy about this, 106 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: but had little choice. Talking about my problems does not 107 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: get rid of them, so why bother? 108 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: I thought, Although therapy can be good, so maybe that's 109 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: a good thing. 110 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: I would agree, But you know ops that have a 111 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: little bit of a you know, the teenager mindset, I 112 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: would say here, school is awful, home is awful. Life 113 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: sucks and won't get better, especially with this pandemic. So 114 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: I start going, and then I began opening up more 115 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: and more about my feelings and my sadness. Without going 116 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: into too much detail. I told my therapist about my 117 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: lack of motivation and the separation, and then I talked 118 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: about life at home. I didn't go into heavy details, 119 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: but I did mention I'm cleaning up after my siblings 120 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: and I feel like my dad doesn't even love me. Well, 121 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: a couple of days or so after my appointment, there 122 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: was a visit from Child Protective Services. 123 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: Oh what. 124 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: They wanted to talk to me and my dad and 125 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: they asked a lot about my sister and well, my 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: dad put two and two together and knew that somehow 127 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: it was my faults and when CPS left, I was 128 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: grounded until further notice. He sold my phone and Nintendo 129 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: three DS to a pawn shop and told me I 130 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: was not allowed to leave my room except for school 131 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: and bathroom breaks, and canceled Christmas. 132 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: Oh my, this is prison insane, Like I canceled Christmas? 133 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: See for real. 134 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: He told me that I made him look bad and 135 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: put the family at risk. I could have made him 136 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: lose custody of my sister and me, But I was 137 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: told not to talk about the lives or problems at 138 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: home or I would regret it. Yeah, so it's like, 139 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: go to therapy, but don't talk about any actual problems 140 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: in your life. Like, just go to therapy and say 141 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: everything's fine. I attend school, I drank water, like literally. 142 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: I actually felt like I was in the wrong for 143 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: telling my therapist of all these problems. I questioned if 144 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: I actually lied or not, but I know I didn't. 145 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I didn't talk about the good stuff because not too 146 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: much of that was happening. I was very angry and confused. 147 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't trust myself not to cause the child perspective 148 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: services to come back again. So at my next therapy appointment, 149 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: I just shut down and didn't divulge anything. I felt 150 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: bad about it, but what else could I do. I 151 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to put my family at risk. Well, I 152 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: guess I went about it wrong because she told my 153 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: dad that I was not talking to her. And now 154 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: for the past month, my dad has been sitting in 155 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: on the appointments with me. So he's basically like, all right, 156 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: you're not gonna talk. I'm gonna just freaking show up. 157 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: How is that helpful? Also, like therapy is so private, 158 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: like yeah. 159 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: And especially when like the dad is causing most of 160 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: the problems in the therapy exactly. Yeah, even like a 161 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: virtual therapy, Yeah, yeah, they do talk space talk space 162 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: help for us. 163 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: He even makes me leave the room and go to 164 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: some toddler toy room nearby so he can chat one 165 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: on one with the therapist. I never know what they 166 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: talk about, but it makes me feel like he's trying 167 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: to make my therapist believe him over me. I feel 168 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: completely violated, like I have no safe space. I'm also 169 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: frustrated at everything and feel like blowing up on anyone 170 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: who upsets me. Is this normal? I didn't mean to 171 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: get Child Protective Services involved. I didn't even know that 172 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: anything I could have said would have made them get involved. 173 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at the therapist, because I do think 174 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: she was genuinely worried about me. But ever since he 175 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: inserted ourselves in our appointments, all she has really done 176 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: is listen to him and make suggestions whenever she can 177 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: get a word in. That is, he rants and rans 178 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: and rants, and I'm not allowed to call him out 179 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: on any of it. He'll do things like extend my 180 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: grounding and not even let me use things like catch 181 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: up and mayonnaise a dinner ridiculous. He has taken everything 182 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: from me except my bed and my blanket. I know 183 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: this is a lot to unpack. I just don't think 184 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: it makes sense without all the context. Currently borrowing a 185 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: friend's old phone and using the public Wi Fi across 186 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: the street to Texas because my father also shut the 187 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: Wi Fi off. Oh my god, also borrow my friend's 188 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Ready account with their permission and for the sake of 189 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: remaining anonymous. 190 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 191 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: Wow, man, that's an insane situation. 192 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I being being sixteen or just being under 193 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: your parents roof is tough, like just like I mean, 194 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: like listening to anyone else's roles is hard. But when 195 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: you're listening to someone's rules and they don't make any 196 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: sense and they're like confusing, and you're trying to get 197 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: help but you can't get it, Like I can't imagine 198 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: being in that situation sucks. 199 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: And just all the things, like just the myriad of 200 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: things that Op is having to deal with, which also 201 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: like it sounds like Op was like good in school 202 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: and everything, you know, for all this happened. 203 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the dad needs to take a hard blok. 204 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: It's like, what definitely, you know, what am I actually 205 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 3: trying to do about trying to help my daughter? I'm 206 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: just trying to make her more miserable. It seems like 207 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: it's just trying to make her more miserable. 208 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Like selling her phone and her three DS to a 209 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: pawnshop like that's like, yeah, ridiculous, and then cutting. 210 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: Off the internet like what the internet? 211 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: The Internet? 212 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: Like yeah, like what's doing on here? Jeez? 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