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Speaker 1: When Christie and I started I Hear Voices, we put

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Speaker 1: Thank you for taking this naive nineteen year old actor

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Speaker 1: every day. Everyone, the great Kevin Conroy. If you want

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Speaker 1: will be sitting on a panel and Kevin Conroy will

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Speaker 1: start to sing I feel blue, ah my blue, Am

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Speaker 1: And normally he's sitting next to the people who played

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Speaker 1: just so passionate, shakes like a Shakesparian actor, sits a lot.

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00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: And then there's you, who's taken this character that is

425
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: now in his late eighties at this point, so you're

426
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 1: trying to have that same kind of verve that you

427
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: had when the first time the Joker and Batman faced off.

428
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: But it's not there anymore. So there's that sense of

429
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: the aged as well, and the two of you together,

430
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: and I just sat back just going, I don't this,

431
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't belong here. So there's that sense of it

432
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: still being a stage play in voiceover that sometimes you

433
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: don't get in television or on film. And it's so

434
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: strange because in some ways you're so much more disconnected

435
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: from your fellow actor, and that you're not making eye contact,

436
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: and yet just through the microphone there is that familiarity.

437
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: It's so strange. I don't I don't even know how

438
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: to describe it. It's just so odd. It is interesting

439
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: because you're you're living through your voice, and you're creating

440
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: the character, and you're creating the drama, and you're creating, uh,

441
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: the tension, and the other actor is doing the same thing,

442
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: but you're not even looking at each other, and there's

443
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: this intimacy that develops, and it's only through the voice.

444
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: It's really fascinating. We're going to get into the fact

445
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: that you are the only correct answer to who's the

446
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: best Batman. We're going to get into you say that

447
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: to everybody. It's true, but just to you and to me,

448
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: if you and everybody, and no, no, no, I'm saying

449
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: who's the best batman? I always say he is or

450
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: I am. That's the only answer to those things. Um,

451
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was you, Now I think it's no

452
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: it's always He's the only correct when you look at

453
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: especially a Bruce tim drawing of Batman and Bruce Wayne,

454
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: do you see yourself some hard hitting questions. No, you

455
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: don't really see myself. You don't I really see the character.

456
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: There's not a little bit of Kevin in there now,

457
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe the jaw. So then that's one

458
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: of my questions. Let's we were Do you see yourself

459
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: in Ron? Yes? You do? I do? I do? When? If?

460
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: I if? Because it's funny. It's one of the ways

461
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: that I know I'm not doing the character properly is

462
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: if I can see the drawing or watch the show

463
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: and I don't see myself. Okay, There's been several characters

464
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: I've done where I'm like, I'm not hitting it because

465
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: when I see it, I don't see me. Yes, I

466
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: know what you mean, certain things where I can see myself.

467
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: Ron is one of them, Terry more than Batman was

468
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: one of them. But like when I did Guardians of

469
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: the Galaxy the first episodes, my register was too high

470
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: for the animation and I didn't see myself in the character,

471
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: and it was weird. It was off putting to me.

472
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: But going back to Connecticut because this thing I want

473
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: to bring you to your childhood. Yes, well no, for

474
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: one specific reason. Did you watch any animation, any cartoons?

475
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: There wasn't even animation us, so it's just cartoons growing up.

476
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: I had never well, there wasn't a Batman in cartoon.

477
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: There was Batman comics though, right, comics. Yeah, I watched

478
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: the Jetsons I love, I mean all the stuff from

479
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: the sixties. Sure, that was what I want. But were

480
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: you a cartoon fan? We were allowed a certain amount

481
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: of TV. It was a pretty strict house. But um,

482
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, I watched The flint Stones and the Jetsons,

483
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 1: and but I had no exposure to comic books. We

484
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: didn't have comic books. When when I went into audition

485
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: for for Batman, Bruce Tim said, what's your knowledge of Batman?

486
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I know the Adam West Show.

487
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: And he said, no, no, no, that's not what we're doing.

488
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: He said, we love Adam, but that's not what we're doing.

489
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: He said, didn't you every comic books when you're a

490
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: kid the Batman's I said, well no, I didn't. We

491
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: didn't have comic books. He said, what kind of childhood

492
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: did you have? Oh man, you're saying that too, So

493
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: you can hear what I'm saying. You can, you can hear.

494
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: And so he is the one who introduced me. He said, well,

495
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: it's you know, his parents were murdered in front of

496
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: him as a child, and in Crime Alley, he's spent

497
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: his life avenging their deaths. He's become this dual personality.

498
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: He's a public face and a private face, and he's

499
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's living too avenged and to to

500
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 1: bring justice to the world. And I said, well, you're

501
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: telling your kind of telling the Hamlet story again. It's

502
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: very similar. And he said, well, no one's made that analogy.

503
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 1: So I said, well, let me just use my imagination.

504
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: And so I just put myself in that scene in

505
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: Crimes in Crime Alley. Had you already been in the

506
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: voiceover world or the animation? None? Okay, No, this is

507
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: the first audition I ever went in on for a voiceover.

508
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: And you were a little reluctant. Were you reluctant? Well?

509
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: I I well, because actors, you know what it's like.

510
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: You go on twenty auditions and you don't get them.

511
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: So you could become kind of casual about and you

512
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: think I really want to go to this one today. Yeah,

513
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't really. Well, Also, I'm going to speak to

514
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: the fact that I had done a lot of indie

515
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: I had done like this really high art Broadway show

516
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: and we were paid off to go like to my

517
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: my mom and I went to pilot season with the

518
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: money because we closed early, right, and I ended up

519
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: working at getting a Disney job and that was it.

520
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: I just work work, work for Disney for my whole

521
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: teen years. But prior to that, I didn't. I did

522
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: a Woody Allen movie. I did a lot of more

523
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: like indie New York stuff. And so actually I'm going

524
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: to mention her name, but because she knows, it's okay now.

525
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: But it's just a Chico who was an amazing voice

526
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: actress and she was a good friend of mine and

527
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: is still and I love her so much. And she

528
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you want to work for Disney, and

529
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, yeah, why not. She's okay,

530
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, and I was that's my guest and Chico, okay,

531
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: it'sn't okay. It's i'ven't okay to Chico on a good day.

532
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I remembered having to make that choice and

533
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: that leap into the unknown of something that was sort

534
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: of wildly different than the training and experience that I had,

535
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, on the East Coast and the whole thing. Yeah,

536
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: I was totally going to blow it off because I thought,

537
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: there's no way this is going to happen. Why am

538
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: I bothering to go this ninety one? It was because

539
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: we're an into production. I was going to blow it

540
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: off because I thought, you know, this is, this is,

541
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a complete waste of time. Put

542
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: my energy into preparing the audition for tomorrow, that is

543
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: for a pilot or something, you know, you know what

544
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, sure, And I thought else, you know,

545
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: I'll just go what's what's the worst that can happen?

546
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: I can make a fool of myself, big deal. So

547
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: it was a totally random audition that I did not

548
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: think was going to lead to anything. But then as

549
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: I started putting my imagination into the character in the

550
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: booth and putting myself into that that that boy in

551
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: that alley and what would happen to him and how

552
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: he would compensate in life, and then I just my

553
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: voice went to this place and this I started using

554
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: this sound that I had never used before. It just

555
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: came out and they hired me on the spot. That's

556
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: exactly what we want. Of course, of course that's what

557
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean. But it was totally improvised on the spot. No, no, yeah, no,

558
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean to the point where I remember my dad.

559
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 1: We were doing Beyond at the time, and something had

560
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: happened where we were in New York. My father and

561
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: I and you were in New York at the time,

562
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: and we were waiting in the room to record something,

563
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: and you were walking down the hallway and you said

564
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: hello to somebody and you said in your voice, like, hey, Jack,

565
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: how you doing? And my dad went, who is that?

566
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: Because that voice? You have that voice, and it was

567
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: like that that's Kevin, that's Kevin. So again we've talked

568
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: about this first audition ever for voiceover is Batman. It

569
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: is completely Shakespearean. When you actually think about the Batman

570
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: character is totally Shakespearean character. He has no superpowers, he

571
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: can't fly against see through walls. He's a tragic hero.

572
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: He is arresties, he is Achilles, he is Edgar in Le.

573
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's so many of the roles that I

574
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: had played, and so I just approached it that way.

575
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: So now I rewatched on literally on Sunday on the

576
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: plane home. I was just in Connecticut and I'm flying home.

577
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: It was negative eight thousand degrees. Um. Batman the animated

578
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: series was just is now on all the day and

579
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm starting over, and I went right

580
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: to the pilot and the first line of the first

581
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: episode of the first Batman series is what was that? Yeah?

582
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: And wasn't that you two helicopter? That was was the

583
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: coolest thing. That was the coolest thing in the world.

584
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: So I'm watching and obviously the animation has changed from

585
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: that first episode quite a bit, the stories instantly compelling

586
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: and now getting back into the world of v O. Batman.

587
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: The animated series changed the whole ballgame for animation all

588
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: the way around, from the way they recorded it, to

589
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: the way they animated it, to the way they produced it,

590
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: to the way it was it was promoted, to the

591
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: way it was scored a full symphony score. It was

592
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: they threw money at that show. Still it still shows.

593
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: It's why it still looks so rich and so fresh

594
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: and compelling, and young people still get turned onto it.

595
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: I get approach the comic cons all the time by people.

596
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Oh I just started watching it. So cool. His fans too,

597
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: It isn't me. They all go, oh, man, you're here.

598
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Where's Kevin um? And I'm like, hey, thanks, he's over

599
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: there in the line. Or I will get this a lot.

600
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: This is the best one. Like I love Batman Beyond.

601
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: Can you sign this for me please? I like yeah,

602
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: Like it's really great that you came over there. Like, yeah,

603
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Kevin's line was too long. I get that a lot too.

604
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Kevin's lines too long, Like, well, it's nice to me.

605
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: Did you do voices at all growing up? Did you?

606
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Did you do voices of your own things that you

607
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: read or or have imaginary friends that you spoke to

608
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: in different voices, any of that stuff. I had imaginary friends?

609
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: Sounds weird. Have you seen the title of the ship?

610
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: You're in a safe space? Come on, now, we had

611
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: I actually grew up on Long Island. We moved to

612
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: Westport when I was about eleven, and when I was

613
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: it was a very working class community and there were

614
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: a couple of trees in the backyard, dogwood trees, and

615
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: when the leaves fell, I would get very, very very upset,

616
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: and my mother caught me outside on a chair with

617
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: tape putting the leaves back on the tree. That was

618
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: the kind of affection that I had to these trees.

619
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: I was trying to heal them as I couldn't hear

620
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: how what's going on? And then she watched me and

621
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 1: she saw me starting to talk and then stop and listen,

622
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: and I was having a conversation with the trees. With

623
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: the trees. That's amazing. So my first imaginary friends were

624
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: two trees in the backyard. Do you remember what the conversation.

625
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what their names were, or you know,

626
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the personas that I put into them.

627
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: She said I would go out and have dialogue. She

628
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: said she'd watch me, and she thought, I hope there's

629
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with this child. I think that's amazing. So

630
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: you gave boys, you voiced, gave voices to the earth,

631
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: essentially great. But it was the loss of the leaves

632
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: that that that moved me emotionally to them, and then

633
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: I developed this relationship with them. Those are my first voices.

634
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Do you still love trees? Oh, I'm a

635
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: real outdoor person. You are love being outside. So I

636
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: was trying to think you might have thought of this already,

637
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 1: because I can't of literally, other than maybe a talk

638
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: show host, any other actor in history who has played

639
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: a role as long as you have. And I can't

640
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: think of anyone. You've been Batman now in many iterations

641
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: for thirty years. Have have the Simpsons been on longer? Maybe? Maybe? Okay,

642
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: so then they might have voice actors they might have,

643
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: may be essentially, but you right, it's up there. But

644
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: you'd be one of a handful of actors in history

645
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: that have played a single character for as long as

646
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: you got. And what a character to play, you think,

647
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, so rich, there's so much always defined there.

648
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: You never get tired of playing him. That's wonderful. Oh

649
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: you don't. It's just he's so damaged, and that's what

650
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: it compels people to him, because we're all damaged, and

651
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: people read that into Batman. They relate that to Batman.

652
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: It's his humanity, it's his flaw is that's what attracts people.

653
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: They really are. People think of the heroic and the

654
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: big and they think of that as Batman, But it's

655
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: really the flaws in him I think could really draw

656
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: people in. It's also what's recurring in any iteration of Batman,

657
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: even live action that we're seeing, like with the Robert

658
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: Pattinson one that's recently coming, and like everyone's their own Batman,

659
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: but they're all damaged and that's what anchors their performance.

660
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: But then there's there's also something very interesting. I remember

661
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Bruce tim saying something to me that was we were

662
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: talking about just the character Batman in general, and the

663
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: thing that he told me that it was very interesting.

664
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: He said, bat there always needs to be a Batman

665
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: for everyone. So he said, when the movies got very dark,

666
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: the cartoons, the animated series got very light, so it

667
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: was like Braven the Bold came out and you saw

668
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: it was more of a comedy side of Batman because

669
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: the film's got very dark. And then he said, when

670
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: the film's got very like like like the Schwarzenegger ones,

671
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: we were doing Beyond and Batman the animated series. So

672
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: he said, Batman always needs to exist for everybody. So

673
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: a five year old can find their Batman and a

674
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: year old can find their Batman's awesome, and I thought

675
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: there was something very interesting about that as well, where

676
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: it's just that character that has so many levels where

677
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: we both know Dietrich Bader very well, who came and

678
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: sat down in front of the microphone and did it

679
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: completely different. I mean, such a different Batman than than

680
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: you you ever did. And one wasn't better or worse.

681
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: They were just different, just different Batman. Adam West, who

682
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: was you know, God rest him? We were I know

683
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: you knew Adam West pretty well, right, Yeah, it was

684
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: a funny scene. He lived in Utah and I had

685
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: been at some comic con and I was changing planes

686
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: at Salt Lake City Airport and Adam was waiting for

687
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: a plane. That's all like City airport. We saw each

688
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: other and I was like, Adam an he went Kevin.

689
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: So we sat down and we're talking to each other

690
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: and people started noticing that's Batman and Batman. So all

691
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: the camera phones came out and people started taking pictures.

692
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: There was a Batman convention that salt like a But

693
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean, how is that because again too completely different versions, different, unbelievable,

694
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: so strange. Yeah, he's a really nice, really nice man.

695
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: He wasn't very nice. So then you don't never feel

696
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: territorial over Batman as a whole, do you know? Not

697
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: at all? It's a you don't get to own the character.

698
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: You get to sort of rent him for a while,

699
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: you get to inhabit him for a while. Um, and

700
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: then someone else comes. You know, you don't have been

701
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: pretty close to owning the carecter'st well, yeah, but I mean,

702
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: and I have a wonderful relationship with the audience and

703
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: the fans through the character. But all of us other

704
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Batman are pretty much playing for a second. We all

705
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: I think we all know that, Oh my gosh, that

706
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: takes such like but it's true. I mean, but it's true.

707
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: It's there's there's times where you just go, I mean again,

708
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: people always ask me, all right, Michael Keaton, Christian Bale,

709
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: who's your Batman? And I was like Kevin Conroy's Batman,

710
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: Like you know, anybody who's inn sect who knows anything

711
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: about animation or any or this world or is truly

712
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: a Batman fan. This is how I look at it,

713
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: because you get a lot of people that are Batman fans,

714
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: fans when it comes to like the films, like but

715
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: truly at all around Batman fan when you're reading the

716
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: comic book, whose voices in your head? Kevin's voices in

717
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: your head? And I think, don't you hear that from

718
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: most of the fans that say there, when I read anything,

719
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: when I do anything, it's your voice. Well, I hear

720
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: that from the fans because they're talking to me, and

721
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: they're not going to come to me and say, oh

722
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: I hear you know you to me and say I

723
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: hear Kevin Conroy, You're pretty good. But I hear Kevin Connor.

724
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: Maybe they know how much you love him. This is

725
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: like an I think it's I mean, of course, what

726
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: we've talked about that many times too, where the you know,

727
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: the Bruce and Terry relationship was was kind of similar

728
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: to yours in mind who came to actually doing the show? Um,

729
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: but it was so funny you mentioned the Simpsons. Okay,

730
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: so I couldn't think of another actor that has played

731
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: a single role owned a role for thirty years. Yeah, unusual, Yeah, epic,

732
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, it's epic. So we are going to

733
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: get into men the Games came along? Well that okay,

734
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: so that's actually games we were just going to. Just amazing. Now,

735
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: how is that difference in recording? That's what I want

736
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: to know. How please, It's like it's like root canal.

737
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: It is so different because you know that when you

738
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: do a recording in the studio with the other actors,

739
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: especially for Warner Brothers, everybody's there together, and it's like

740
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: doing a radio play. You're all interacting. You. You have

741
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: the other actor feeding you, you have Mark Hamill feeding

742
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: you aligne. I mean, how can you not feed well

743
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: in response? You know what I mean? He just brings

744
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: it out of you. But when you go into do games,

745
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: everything's got to be on its own track because of

746
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: the way the games are played, everything is on their

747
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: own algorithm, you know. So they can't do people together,

748
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: so everything is isolated. So you're in a room alone,

749
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: a soundproof room, and you're creating the situation of the character,

750
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: the character, the what what does he want? What is

751
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: he after? What's just happened? Where are you going? And

752
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: then keeping the voice alive, line by line by line

753
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: by line by line, and they do them all at

754
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: one line at a time, so it's totally different. Hundreds

755
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: of cues, thousands of cues, thirty seven thousand lines come

756
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: on in Arkham Night, the third of the Arkham series,

757
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: thirty seven thousand lines, because depending on how the game's

758
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: play take left, thousands of different things there two years

759
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: to four hours at a time alone in a booth.

760
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: You come out and you're just sweating, and then they

761
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: give you an hour for lunch, and then you go

762
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: in four hours more and you're just keeping just keeping

763
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: the drama alive in your head and keeping it straight.

764
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: What's happened to him? Now? Where is he going? Did

765
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: he just get in a fight? Is he? You know?

766
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: All that stuff you're keeping alive in your own head,

767
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: and it's it's exhausting. By the end of the day,

768
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: you're just depleted. You're depleted and you're exhausted. And then

769
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: they do that for about a week and then you

770
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: get a few weeks off while they're writing more stuff

771
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: than they bring you in for another week. That's really

772
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: tough work. People, i think assume that just because you're

773
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: talking into a microphone that it's not hard work. Yeah,

774
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: you always hear that, Well, you're a voice over, you

775
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: can come in your pajamas. It's like, yeah, that's somebody

776
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: who's never actually done the work. The building games is

777
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: really hard work, is there when you prefer act from

778
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: an acting standpoint. Arkham Knight, the third of the Arkham trilogy,

779
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: I think, is that one with the thirty seven thousand

780
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: because the end of it, I don't want to I'm

781
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: not going to give away share. But Batman goes through this,

782
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: this transition, this this, this Catharsis that is was so

783
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: challenging as an actor to do, you know, you like

784
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: to be challenged by things like that, and I was

785
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: so proud of the way it it came out. I

786
00:42:47,200 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: was really really happy with that one. So I don't

787
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: think I've ever asked you this, and you can't say me,

788
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: because it's obviously the answer you would give, being that

789
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: it's our podcast, and you can't say you who's your

790
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: favorite Batman? Oh man, I'm not sure. I can't say

791
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't see you and you can't you

792
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: can't say me either. Of course you would who. But

793
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: I I thought it was really crazy for Warner Brothers

794
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: not to give the franchise to one person, the on

795
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: camera franchise, because traditionally that's what always happened. You know,

796
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: you have one person play a character, do it, you know,

797
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: like a James Bond, kind of like James Bonner or

798
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: Peter Sellers, you know, Clusseau and there'll be certain you know,

799
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: the character would just do that franchise. So when Michael

800
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: Keaton did the first of the Batman movies, I thought, well,

801
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: he's nailed it. He's got it. Yeah, and he's going

802
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 1: to the whole franchise because I love him as an actor.

803
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: He's a brilliant Yeah, he's one of my favorites ever really,

804
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: and so I think it's impossible to pick one because

805
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: they're all so different. When I started seeing the different characters,

806
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 1: I mean, Ben Affleck is fantastic. He's fantastic and good.

807
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: He was the best part of Batman versus Superman. Christian

808
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: Bale is a little sketchy with his Batman voice, but

809
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: as Bruce Wayne, great Bruce Wayne, phenomenal, great Bruce Wayne, phenomenal.

810
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: So everybody brings something different than it's I realized after

811
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: a while why they did that. It makes it makes

812
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: it so interesting to see what different actors bring. Yeah,

813
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: But to be honest, Michael Keaton, I think I had

814
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: to pick one hand down. Now, don't you think that

815
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: Batman the animated series is partially responsible for actors realizing

816
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: that Batman and Bruce Wayne are two different characters. Well,

817
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: certainly that the should have two different voices and two

818
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: different personas that hadn't been done before, and I asked

819
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: Bruce if I could do that, because I said, wait

820
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: a minute, because I was so new to all this.

821
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: I said, he's he's the richest man in Gotham. He's

822
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: the most desirable bachelor. He hons half the city and

823
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: he puts on a mask and no one knows it's him.

824
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: I said, seriously, that's that's stretching credulity. That's to a

825
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: ridiculous point. I said, can I, you know, change the

826
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: voice up a little bit? And so we decided my

827
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: my image was of a playboy sophisticated, almost a David

828
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Niven kind of character. That's what I was visualizing. And

829
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: it just was a lighter register of my own voice.

830
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: It was just slightly lighter and a little more. I

831
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: used a lot of irony, a lot of humor. I

832
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: went a lot for the humor, but you definitely it

833
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: was it was Batman and Bruce Wayne were two different people,

834
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: and that was never I don't think that had ever

835
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: really been done before, explored to that extent as it

836
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: had in Batman the Animated. They decided over time to

837
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: have me tone it down because when the artwork came back.

838
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: The show was so dark. It was all painted on black.

839
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: It was the first time the show had been painted

840
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: on a black wow. So it was very dark. And

841
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: that's the music was so dramatic and the stories were

842
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: so complicated. They said, you know, when you go to

843
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: that light, ironic voice, it's it's a little too jarring.

844
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: So they had to tone it down. They liked the distinction,

845
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: but they just wanted it less less. So, so actually

846
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm back and re recorded the first few episodes. Really,

847
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: there is quite a harmony involved in the like you're

848
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: saying this, the music mixed with the actual animation to

849
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: the voices, it kind of is all synergistic. Really, like

850
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: with the characters that he and I were blessed to play.

851
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Our characters were Kim and Rock. We kind of massaged

852
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: it over the first season of trying to find so

853
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: that you know, when we you've mentioned that, like sometimes

854
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: if you watch some of your work, you're like, oh,

855
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: I didn't do that right, I'm taking my I'm taking

856
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: myself out of that character. It's not blending well, like

857
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: he can't see himself in that character, and it's true,

858
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,479
Speaker 1: and it's it's just it's one of those things where

859
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, I always thought about because the exact

860
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: opposite thing happened to me when I was doing Beyond,

861
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: where they pulled back my gravel, where Andrea would constantly say,

862
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: you're getting too gravelly into our should stay to piraty

863
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: with the with the Batman voice, because with Terry it

864
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: was as a seventeen year old kid when he went

865
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: and put on the cowl, going hey stop, no, nobody

866
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: was going to be afraid of him. So it was

867
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: interesting that we mirrored ourselves in that aspects well, where

868
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: they pulled you back from the higher register and they

869
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: pulled me back from the lower register, which I thought

870
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: was was kind of fun. But again, I think anybody

871
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: who knows animation or likes animation knows that Batman the

872
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: animated series changed the whole ballgame, definitely. I I lived

873
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: through that too as a as a viewer, so I

874
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: completely came became It was no longer a cartoon, it

875
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: was an animated it was a movement, and that was huge. Yeah,

876
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: that's really interesting. The actors they brought him, everything about

877
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: this show was extraordinary. I mean, going in every week

878
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: was like an acting lesson the people I got to

879
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: work with Mark Hamill, Roddy McDowell from Zimbilis Jr. Stacy Keach.

880
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: I saw Stacy keach Is Hamlet when I was in

881
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: high school. I mean I had always admired his work.

882
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: And that's Andrea, and that's all these different actors, and

883
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: she went way outside the traditional pool of voice actors.

884
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: She brought them into. I was gonna say, what was

885
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: the traditional reach of actors then people off of certain

886
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: types of that's a good question. What was the voice

887
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: over actor? Well, Andrea always referred to a lot of

888
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: it as pukey. Do you remember that with with like, well,

889
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: there were some it would be, but the acting itself,

890
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily the act It was overly saccharin and overly cartoony.

891
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: Was the term, don't be cartooning? Yeah, because you know,

892
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: like when she would always say that when somebody would

893
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: come in and they it was always newscasters, a newscaster

894
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: would come in with it with something and they'd go,

895
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, and this just in in Gotham and she go,

896
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no no, like you're a newscaster, say

897
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: it just like you. And I remember sitting there going like, oh,

898
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: that's what she means by Pukey, like, don't do a

899
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: cartoon like it was, And she was always had that doubt. Uki.

900
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: That's so interesting and I think that it was real.

901
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: Is it was the word I would use for Batman

902
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: the animated series. It was real. She brought an actors

903
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: to actors. So if there was any voice character that

904
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: you would want to do, I'm doing it. It's cantan

905
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: something else besides Batman to do. Who would you do Batty? Oh?

906
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: Have his laugh? I don't have his laugh? I think

907
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: an episode I have his sinister Yeah, yes, I could

908
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: see that. I've done actually a voice for a new

909
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: UM animated show that hasn't been I don't know what's

910
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: happening with it, but he's very sinister and it's really fun.

911
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: It's good to play all after all these years. I

912
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: am also officially advocating for somebody to write an episode

913
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: where Mark Hamill and Kevin Connray get to switch roles

914
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: for one for one episode. Oh they did that would

915
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: keep remember we did the body switch switch. I want

916
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: to see Mark Hamill as Batman and Kevin Connery is

917
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: a joker. I think that would be very very cool.

918
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: His laugh is just otherworldly. I mean, it's just incredible.

919
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: Well that was, but that was the thing is so

920
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: many people saw Star Wars and kind of went, oh,

921
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Mark Camill cute, Well that's what I knew of him

922
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: from and then but his actual acting, he's a He's

923
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: a character actor, and a ridiculously good one. He's not

924
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: a young leading man, which is what he was pigeoned

925
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: hold into because he was such a good looking god

926
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: had haircut. But Mike's really good looking. God. Oh, he

927
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: is really a character actor. He's crazy and not only crazy,

928
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: but insanely talented. It's just watching that, all right. So

929
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: we've come to a portion of our podcast here that

930
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: um makes us a little different than all the other

931
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: podcasts out there. So while we're just starting, it's not

932
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: fully interactive yet, but eventually we are going to be

933
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: fully interactive, and kids, young adults and even some adults

934
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: are going to get to skype in, come in talk

935
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: to their favorite voiceover actors. But more importantly, artists are

936
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: going to send in pictures and have some of their

937
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: favorite voice over actors add voices to their character. So

938
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: we have a stack here. Oh that was sent But

939
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: to completely put you on the spot, we've had for

940
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: our first couple episodes, We've had some kids, some adults

941
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: send in some pictures. I put you on the spot,

942
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: isn't it. This is the joy the muscles, and we

943
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: would like would you like us to pick or would

944
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: you like to pick? Yeah? Here we go, Here we go?

945
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 1: Is he picking at random? It's up to you. Okay,

946
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful. Some great artists and some inspiring artists.

947
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: Certainly these are fun. Again, imagine being a little kid

948
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: and getting Kevin Conroy to put a voice to the

949
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: character you've drawn. These are fun. These are right fun. Okay,

950
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: I grabbed a couple. You grabbed that's awesome. Okay, So

951
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: this first one is a beautiful fish with it almost

952
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: looks like a very disneified fish. It's a beautiful fishes. Uh.

953
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: This is from Sam, who created our logo. Here, Sam,

954
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: this is a beautiful fish. Beautiful, beautiful fish. And Kevin

955
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: Connray grabbed your fish right out of the stack. So, okay, Kevin,

956
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: you're you see that you're an audition comes in front

957
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: of you. We want Kevin Conroy to read for the

958
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: part of Sam the fish. This is my butterfly, and

959
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: this is my favorite butterfly. This is my pet butterfly.

960
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: I'm caressing my butterfly because fish love butterflies. That's a

961
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: great voice. That's a great voice for Sam the Fish.

962
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: And here we have a cat who's also from Sam Portly.

963
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: He's partly that I'm a very portly cat. This is

964
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: King pussy Cat, King pussy Cat, and I am Emperor

965
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: for the Day, Emperor for the Day. There you go,

966
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: look at that sale. Kevin Conroy just put voices to

967
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: two of your characters. We got them both up there.

968
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: We do. We have this one now too, So King

969
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: pussy Cat and what was the fishy name Sam? Sam

970
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: in the Fish? Well, I really I think I like Sam.

971
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: I really like Sam. So, Kevin, what's next? What's what's

972
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: next for you? Down a line? Um? This thing I

973
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: just started doing that. I'm you never know what you

974
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: can talk about something awesome coming out. It's by an

975
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: Australian creator, Aborigine Cool, which is really interesting. Yeah. And

976
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: then there was another one that I did a couple

977
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: of episodes of that these are things that are waiting

978
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: to be picked up. I never know what I'm allowed

979
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: to say the names of on the side of caution

980
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: and just say you've got some really cool stuff coming out, right, Yeah,

981
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 1: but then it sounds like you're just an actor. Lyne

982
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: to make it sound like you're working. I do that

983
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: all the time, do that all the time. I've got

984
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: amazing things coming out. I don't know which one to pick.

985
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: I was in you know when you do the the

986
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: the upfronts for the networks, when you're doing a TV show,

987
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: and so they bring into New York and you meet

988
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: all the advertisers and everything. And I was doing one

989
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: for a show that I was on with an actor

990
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: and I was doing interviews with him and he said

991
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: he's literally said during the interview, I had a pile

992
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: of script this high and I picked this one off

993
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: the top and I said, you know, this is a

994
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: show I want to do. And I was thinking, what

995
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: a load. This guy was so excited to get that job.

996
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: And he's saying, I had lying actors just act They

997
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: just act actors acting. Oh gosh, that's the actors being

998
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: act That's the way it is. That should be a podcasting.

999
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: It's just a whole bunch of whispering into the camera

1000
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: about so where did you find your motivation? That's an

1001
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: exactly exactly welcome to NPR Actors on a Native So again,

1002
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: we've now got Batman for thirty some odd years. Batman

1003
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere. You're constantly being cast as Batman because

1004
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: you're Batman. Where do you what would you like to

1005
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: see from the Batman character that maybe you haven't done yet?

1006
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: Is there any part of this character in thirty years

1007
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: that has not been explored that you'd like to see?

1008
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: They've explored so much. I love it when his identity

1009
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: gets challenged. Those are scripts that I really get excited by.

1010
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: There was one called Perchance to Dream where he gets

1011
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: drugged and he goes back into his childhood and so

1012
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: I was Bruce Wayne, I was Batman, I was drugged

1013
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: to Batman, then I was adolescent Bruce Wayne, and I

1014
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: was Thomas Wayne, the father. So he did five voices

1015
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: in that in that show that all have to be

1016
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: believably connected but distinct, but those kind of because it's

1017
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: the psychology of the character that makes him so interesting. Yeah,

1018
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: So any of the ones that challenge that I love.

1019
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: Like at the end of Arkham Knight the Game, that's

1020
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: what happens to him. He gets his identity gets challenged,

1021
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: So I I love it when that happens, it does.

1022
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: It seems like kind of the toughest fights ever for

1023
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: Batman are really the fights Bruce Wayne has to do

1024
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: against himself. Yeah, yeah, which is kind of the cool

1025
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: thing I ever wonder. I have a great big collection

1026
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: of cells. I've been collecting them all the time I've

1027
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: been doing the show. So I've got like sixty or

1028
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: seventies cells, and one of them is Batman struggling with

1029
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne. Oh. That's that's cool. Cool, that's very cool that.

1030
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: You know. I've got to ask, do you sign your

1031
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: own cells make worth more? Yes? Yeah, of course, of

1032
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: course you have to do the same thing. It's like,

1033
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: this is the greatest thing. I'm gonna hang it on

1034
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: my wall to I started collecting other ones, like Looney

1035
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: Tunes and Hannah Barbera and you're talking, Andrea Romano Looney

1036
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: Tunes Barbera, it's like the original n F t Yeah.

1037
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: I got a lot of a pinky in the brain.

1038
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: I got a Carrot Blanca, come on a classic. It's

1039
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: a Looney Tunes where bugs Bunny plays. Um, it's Sam

1040
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: yeah from CASABLANCT. It's a spoofs a carrot right. Oh, Okay,

1041
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: he's did. I'm thinking of the reason that went to

1042
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: the carrot one and tweety Bird is Sydney Green Street.

1043
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: They're incredible, they're great cells and it's a classic. So

1044
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: I've got some great cells. Is that your nerd um?

1045
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: Like if you if you pick a nerd um? Is

1046
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: it kind of animation history? It's becoming so I knew

1047
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: nothing about it when I got into it. Mark is

1048
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: the maven about animation history. He can tell you every

1049
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: episode number of the Obscure Show and what color the

1050
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: cape was, you know, I mean, he knows everything about animation.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Well you can tell you can see it

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Speaker 1: in his passion. But you I mean again, I got

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Speaker 1: to it was honored enough to sit next to you

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Speaker 1: for many years at the microphone and to see the

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Speaker 1: passion is honestly, I'm eart that you were here today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much much. Luck this thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: This is by the way, has been recorded. No, I

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Speaker 1: don't think this is a rehearsal. We're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: shoot rehearsal, but decided against it. We are going to

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Speaker 1: be doing it. You know, We're going to do it live.

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Speaker 1: Next time. Kevin Conroy, thank you so much again in

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Speaker 1: the vely answer to who's the best Batman, Kevin Conroy,

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Speaker 1: I am Vengeance, I am the Knight, I am Batman.

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Speaker 1: Cannot end on anything better than that. Thanks everybody, connect

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Speaker 1: together