WEBVTT - Girls Trippin' with Gabrielle Union

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, fam, I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple podcasts. So I'm excited, but well, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Were excited because you're a big Gabrielle FA fam know

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<v Speaker 1>you are. So this is our girlfriend Relationships show. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about different women that I wanted to talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>Gabrielle Union just kept coming into my mind and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Gabrielle, Well, me and Gabrielle don't speak. Gabrielle

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<v Speaker 1>and I were never really girlfriends. We were great associates

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<v Speaker 1>that at some point that dissolved, and for seventeen years

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<v Speaker 1>we have not really spoken. You don't even know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're mad about. We don't need to know that. When

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<v Speaker 1>we got on the phone, I was like, Gabrielle, what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, girl, I don't know. Yeah, So today I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to talk to Gabrielle to just figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how we as women specifically get here and then how

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<v Speaker 1>we reunite with them. Sometimes and sometimes and sometimes sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you can't heal it and this particular episode is about healing. Healing,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know, and don't fan out on me asking

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<v Speaker 1>for all the graphs all that know. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>have taught me well, I don't. I try not to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for pictures or autographs and try not to add goofy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's hard. Hi, mother, how are you so happy to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you? I'm so glad that you came. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go to the Red Table. House is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Let lead because okay I got lost? Did

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<v Speaker 1>I got lost? Were right past? So yeah, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>walk on over here to the Red Table st vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go? You ready, let's clear ch up. Please.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very special show for me because what

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to do was to make this about creating

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<v Speaker 1>a new girlfriend. Gavi and I we had a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a break, we don't know how. And she's been

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<v Speaker 1>open to this healing. She's been open to this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone plays a part. Everybody plays part. Yeah. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt so good on the phone with you to even

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<v Speaker 1>just go, hey, I'm sorry that I didn't even take

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<v Speaker 1>the time to talk to you, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I had to just apologize and just thinking to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn Jada. That was some pettia. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>going with us where you weren thank god you someplace

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<v Speaker 1>else now out you know, I'm not you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>could have been like, Okay, I know this is super uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna hop in your face and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>right talk. But I was like, okay, yeah exactly. And

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<v Speaker 1>then every time you're like, it's not gonna suck my life, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it did. And it is because you keep your

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<v Speaker 1>brain keeps going back there. Yeah, because every time we

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<v Speaker 1>would see each other, we were always cording, always nice,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was always tension. I think it was last year,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's two years ago. We me and my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>we're leaving the White House. Yeah, and this is some

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<v Speaker 1>like bougie black people. So when you're leaving the I

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<v Speaker 1>was so I was leaving the White House rocking out

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<v Speaker 1>of Jazz Thick and you were walking in and there

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<v Speaker 1>was that moment of like do I he hugger? It's

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<v Speaker 1>like hey, and it was like but it's like what

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<v Speaker 1>was natural for both of us is to be like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but we were both on our just like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you tell rocking the show, so it's up. It was cool, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah, And even then I was just like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell is that about? And then we saw each

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<v Speaker 1>other the Double A CP Awards. There was a picture

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<v Speaker 1>there like you guys get in yeah, and when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I want to make her feel weird, being like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the stiffest picture, y'all. Oh man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a trip. It's a trip. And it's not even about

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<v Speaker 1>having to be the best of friends or best girlfriends

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<v Speaker 1>and what have you, just simple consideration, respect and knowing, Ay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in this together. It's our own personal healing. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I found really powerful you did a

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<v Speaker 1>speech at Essence just about your journey as far as

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<v Speaker 1>you're healing with female relationships. I used to shrink in

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<v Speaker 1>the presence of other dope, beautiful women. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>revel in gossip and rumors. I took joy in people's pain,

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<v Speaker 1>and I tap danced on their misery. Real fierce and

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<v Speaker 1>fearless women celebrate and compliment other women, and we recognize

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<v Speaker 1>and embrace the notion that they're shine in no way

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<v Speaker 1>diminishes our life, and that it actually makes our lights

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<v Speaker 1>shine brighter. I listened to you speak and I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>Gabs on the past, she's figuring it out, She's in

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<v Speaker 1>a process. So I really want to know what was

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<v Speaker 1>that moment for you when you realize, Okay, I lof

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<v Speaker 1>is enough. I had to hit rap bottom. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to lose everything for me. That was my first marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>going through the divorce process. I lost my show. My

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<v Speaker 1>show was canceled, and I was having difficult relationships with

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<v Speaker 1>my BFFs. You know my day once and it was

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's fault but my own, and I literally found myself

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<v Speaker 1>under my bed with my dog. It was I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I can get a news. This is

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<v Speaker 1>probably what people mean they say they've hit rock bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>And I started working with A J. Johnson. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>just explain to our Red Table family who A J.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson is. A J. Johnson is a physical trainer and

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<v Speaker 1>life coach and also an actress and she's been a

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<v Speaker 1>host at times um but she is a changer of

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<v Speaker 1>many lives in Hollywood. Yes she is. She's been around Lanta.

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<v Speaker 1>We love her and with A J. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>combination of working out okay and while in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of working out, she would kind of be shouting out questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and so one day she said, um, make a happy list.

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<v Speaker 1>But right we were boxing, got it? She said, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me ten things that make you happy. And I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm punching, but I can't think of anything that makes

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<v Speaker 1>me happ not one thing that makes me happy. And

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<v Speaker 1>so she's like, give me something, give me something, anything, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>um butter um uh imitation crab ground beef. So butter

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<v Speaker 1>imitation crab and crown beef. And she stopped and she

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<v Speaker 1>she said, okay, of course your marriage failed. Wow, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what makes you happy. Why would you think

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else knows how to make you happy when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what makes you happy? That part, so we

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<v Speaker 1>started doing the work. I'm feeling amazing. I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 1>feel a lot better about myself. And we go to

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<v Speaker 1>a party and this, you know, this woman walks in

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<v Speaker 1>hot l a girl, and I start to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shrinking, and I start reverting to my usual, which

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<v Speaker 1>is when I feel like I'm shrinking and attention is

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<v Speaker 1>being taken away, when I feel like I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>good outfit on, like my hair is done I've got

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<v Speaker 1>enough credits. If you've seen my IMDb page, I am

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<v Speaker 1>deserving of attention, right. You know when Michelle Obama said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the high road, I hate the high roup.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate It's like getting on the four, five and

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<v Speaker 1>four o'clock on Friday because you don't get the instant gratification. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what your mind. No, it is not

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<v Speaker 1>tone and no. So I get the attention back on

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<v Speaker 1>me because I'm talking about the hot girl. How is

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<v Speaker 1>she at this party? Who did she do? X, Y

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<v Speaker 1>and Z too? You know, start you start to assassinate

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<v Speaker 1>someone's character and a j She said, okay, wait, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stop you right there. Did you get the job

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<v Speaker 1>that you wanted? I'm like, huh right, she said, did

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<v Speaker 1>did your house get bigger? Did your bank account grow?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are you talking? She's like, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you accomplish by tearing that woman down? All you did

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<v Speaker 1>is revealed to everyone in this party what low self

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<v Speaker 1>esteem you have or that right, and it just that

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<v Speaker 1>was That's what it took. She got me right between

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<v Speaker 1>the eye. It was harsh in the moment, but then

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, damn, I have been communicating through negativity.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been shrinking other people, hoping that I'm growing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I will be the super friend, supermother, super freak, super chefs, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you do all of that, you have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>left for yourself. We've all been there. We've all been there.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody else comes along and we feel threatened in some

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<v Speaker 1>form and we feel like we have to shrink somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else down in order to feel bigger. I have had

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<v Speaker 1>so much revelation and just the idea of what what

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<v Speaker 1>it takes to connect to other women and what creates

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<v Speaker 1>within us the inability to do that. What was the

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<v Speaker 1>process that you took on in order to I had

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<v Speaker 1>to call a thing a thing first, and what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a hater, I'm a troll. Okay, you know now

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<v Speaker 1>you would say you're an natroll come to life? Got it?

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<v Speaker 1>The worst part of the comment section of social media.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, all those negative things that had been

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<v Speaker 1>happening in your life, it's exactly what you're putting out,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting back, got it? So is that reflection that

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<v Speaker 1>mirror and I had to see myself clearly right, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ugly, it's it's hard, it's painful to recognize that

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<v Speaker 1>you are the common denominator for the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 1>your problems. Let me tell you something. I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years of that looking at somebody else and

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<v Speaker 1>go oh no, no, no, you're the problem. You're the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the problem. But people will tell you that you're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping it real. Yes, they love it when you point

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<v Speaker 1>out other people. Absolutely, and while you just think it

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<v Speaker 1>yeah and drowning. Yes, exactly. And let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that was an aha moment when I had to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, baby girl, all that you created and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard. It's so hard. It's isn't that just hard?

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<v Speaker 1>It's devastating, and it's a more in that death of

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<v Speaker 1>you thought you were that cart. We do need to

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<v Speaker 1>have girlfriends that are willing to pull our coat tails,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a loving way. Well, there's some girlfriends I'll

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<v Speaker 1>use my finger quotes who want to squash you. The

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<v Speaker 1>goal isn't to watch you evolve. The goal is to

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<v Speaker 1>watch you be miserable. And there's something that is appealing

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<v Speaker 1>about your misery to that right. And then there are

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<v Speaker 1>the real girlfriends who can be honest in a loving way,

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<v Speaker 1>because the goal isn't to squash you. The goal is

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<v Speaker 1>to watch you evolve into the woman that you want,

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<v Speaker 1>actually want to be and again, but we also have

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a space of receiving it in that

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<v Speaker 1>now here. That's a whole another thing. We gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>ready because what does what does ready even look like?

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<v Speaker 1>What does it look like? What does it mean? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what it was for me, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was to be ready to receive someone looking at me

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<v Speaker 1>and going, nah, you're better than that. And I realized

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<v Speaker 1>that in my life, I just was not willing to

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<v Speaker 1>have that. It's like no, no, no, no. And it

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<v Speaker 1>came out of fear because you know, if you take

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<v Speaker 1>all that, then we got to be responsible for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like no, no, no, I'd rather play victim

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<v Speaker 1>because that is where I get to play small humphiate.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't I call it the cloak of victimhood? You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to take it off. It's like a snuggie and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, it's so good, and and people will

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<v Speaker 1>let you be a victim for your entire life and

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up in your seventy and you're like, well

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<v Speaker 1>it's been great, and they're like, well, you know she was.

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<v Speaker 1>She was an amazing singer, but you know that thing happened, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the sixty two. This is you know where

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<v Speaker 1>we're at, but people will let you be there because

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<v Speaker 1>being a victim is also comfortable for everybody else. Because

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<v Speaker 1>when you take accountability for yourself and your own healing,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people lose a little bit of control.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easier to control a victim than it is to

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<v Speaker 1>control a healed, evolved person. In this process of growth,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been friends of mine who have kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fallen off. So have you found that they had to go?

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<v Speaker 1>And I have zero regret. I'm still working on that process.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not But if you're I'm ready, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>over here living my best life and enjoying who I

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<v Speaker 1>really am. And I see that you are enjoying your

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<v Speaker 1>misery and I'm gonna leave you to that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have zero guilts about that. So what has been your

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<v Speaker 1>process in regards to finding your true self? What? What

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<v Speaker 1>a therapy? And silence? Yeah, silence and being okay with

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<v Speaker 1>my own company and in the stillness, just sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>and really finding comfort in being alone. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that has been for me The greatest gift

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<v Speaker 1>to find is that me time. And I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that real deal me time. I'm not talking about an

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<v Speaker 1>hour in a bathtime. I'm talking about days. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>did have to get with the fact that I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>people pleaser. And let me tell you that was my mother.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, you know you codependent, right, and that's with everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what your girlfriends, that's with everybody. That's what you

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<v Speaker 1>really need to look at, your codependent. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not codependent. I just like people to be happy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I expect right and my sanity and ps and

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<v Speaker 1>you want people to like you. So you say, yes, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I will sacrifice my own career to and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to enhance my husband's. Yes, I will be the super friends, supermother,

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<v Speaker 1>super freak, super chefs, sir whatever. Also donate time for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, giving blood and the and the homeless and

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<v Speaker 1>and and when you do all of that so people

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<v Speaker 1>can call you a good woman or a good friend

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<v Speaker 1>or a good wife or whatever it is that it

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<v Speaker 1>takes to be considered amazing. You have nothing left for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>So how have you dealt with that? Just in order

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<v Speaker 1>to say no? And no used to be so terrifying

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<v Speaker 1>because no means a boundary, and if you put up

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries and maybe people won't come back. They're both wives,

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<v Speaker 1>we have our own careers and our own thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>then we also happen to have husbands that have their

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<v Speaker 1>careers and have their own thing, because when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about those sacrifices, that will make for our husbands partners

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<v Speaker 1>life partners. But I think as women, we have this

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<v Speaker 1>fear of, oh, man, if I don't do this, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>find somebody else he'll do it. And I hate that messaging.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got to the point in my own situation

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, if you can find somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, then by god, let go do it,

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<v Speaker 1>because for real, I can't do that like that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do more for myself. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>having the partner that I have. Thank God he came

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<v Speaker 1>along on the train. I became an a woman. I

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<v Speaker 1>really did. It was quite free. Have you had that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of process in your situation because we went through

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<v Speaker 1>so much in the dating phase. Yeah, that's true. And

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that a good woman or a good future

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<v Speaker 1>wife should have the propensity to handle enormous amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>pain and that's what makes you a good wife. When

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<v Speaker 1>we got married, we had to redefine that as an

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<v Speaker 1>evolved person, as a healed person. Um, I'm not interested

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<v Speaker 1>in pain and I'm not interested in hurting you either.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm married. Somebody's dream. It was like, I'm married d

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<v Speaker 1>Wade and I have a marriage with Dwayne Tyrone Wade Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, and I'm still getting to know him. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm in a amazing friendship marriage with this beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>man that I didn't even know existed. Just explained to

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit gab of why the Me Too

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<v Speaker 1>movement it is important to you. It's incredibly personal. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>me too. Write When I was nineteen, I was raped

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<v Speaker 1>at gunpoint at my after school job, and it speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to me because I had to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>go from victim to survivor and kind of at times

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<v Speaker 1>feeling very alone in that, feeling like I was screaming

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<v Speaker 1>into a hurricane and no one was was hearing me.

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<v Speaker 1>And with the Me Too movement, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>found my people. It's a tribe I never wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be in, but now that I'm here, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>happy to know that there's other people who want to

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<v Speaker 1>be healed, who want to get justice, who want to

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<v Speaker 1>unleash and unload their pain. UM. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a voice UM for some of the voiceless. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god for the Me Too movement because so many

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<v Speaker 1>people have just been suffering in silence. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to know, I really I commend you for having the

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<v Speaker 1>courage to UM talk about it in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>you have. I really thank you for that. It's working.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I told you on the phone, this is my

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<v Speaker 1>year of growth. I'm really just in my life just

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning up a lot of stuff and you were one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Having this moment with you is helping me

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<v Speaker 1>in that process. Well, I told you on the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a gorilla hopped off my back that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know it was there, right And I

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<v Speaker 1>needed I needed that, I need I needed I needed you.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you, Thank you. This has been beautiful and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope from here on out that we have a

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<v Speaker 1>bond and you know you can call on me for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you for just being open to this rank

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you guys for being here with us at

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<v Speaker 1>the Red table. And please comments about what you saw

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<v Speaker 1>today and you know, tell us your story and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear. I'm here, I want to see I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted I want to know. Yeah, for sure, So just

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<v Speaker 1>let us know. He's our tough journeys, but they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>worth it. They are worth it most definitely. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get gab out here. She's been here long enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Like hips, thank you guys for making this easy. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it was easy. Yes, I hope it was easy. Mama.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening On our next red table talk? We are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about parenting. Will and I were worrying over Jaden.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be like everybody else. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so simple. I remember Will called me and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, have you talked about this with Jada

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<v Speaker 1>and him wearing a skirt? That wanted you to have

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<v Speaker 1>something super special when you came here, something special that

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<v Speaker 1>just reminded you always of how special you are, how

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<v Speaker 1>grateful I am that you have been so open to

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<v Speaker 1>this process, and so I wanted to give you something

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<v Speaker 1>as a memory. Oh my god, oh my gosh, are

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<v Speaker 1>you kidding me? No, thank you. I want to put

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<v Speaker 1>it on you. Let this key be a reminder that

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<v Speaker 1>you are the key to your power. Yay, that looks

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful on you. You are so welcome, so gab

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<v Speaker 1>before you leave, can I get a picture? Of course? Okay.

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