1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: I'll that for me. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: be happy. 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day. Edith Steak 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: is that woo woof? And them and Tye, welcome back 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: to the salad verbal, boys and girls, monnayme is ty Hildenbrand? 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: That guy a fine gentleman over there in the heart 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: of the Midwest. Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: I'm drinking from a water cup, a water mug, coffee mug. 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: It's I'm just all over the place. I'm feeling good. 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: I'm hydrated. I'm ready to talk about Week nine. A 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: Sheryl Crow Saturday. I have a lot of thoughts. I 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: think one hundred percent of them correct and insightful, always 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: fearingly to. 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: The point, always the case. So ty I'm ready. Well, 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: I will tell you that Mama H texted me, just 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: as a way to start this out. Mama H texted 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: me after that Notre Dame game last night. Yeah, and 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: she said, what an exhausting day of football, and shouldn't 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: mean that as a pejorative. Week nine was a good week. 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: There were a lot of really interesting matchups, a ton 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: of storylines that will unpack here over the next hour 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: or so. Excited to get into it, Excited to play 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: your reverbs, which Dylan dutifully sent over bright and early 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: this morning. We appreciate everyone giving a call. 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It was a ton of fun. 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: I will resort back to a few of the points 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: that we mentioned during that stream as we go through here, 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: because some of what we said actually did come to fruition. 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: If you can imagine true you've said you did seven 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: and one right, eight? I went seven and one on picks. 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like where money is, where mouth is actual 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: money picks. Yeah, look at you, Actually at you. 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: Actual money picks. I know, look at look at me. 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: Feeling pretty good about myself here on this And to 51 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: move to the desert. No, I'm not moving to the desert. 52 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Halloween is when we are recording this. So yeah, hopefully 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: we can avoid any high jinks here and just get 54 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: you through the college football action that was in Week nine. 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Should we start off where we always do with your 56 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: Week nine reverbs would love to here they are have 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: a listen. Hey, Dan and Ty, This is EJ from Addison, Wisconsin. 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: Just check in in. 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 5: They're convincing my buddy to drive all the way from 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 5: Iowa City to get his Hawkeyes destroyed today by my 61 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 5: Badgers on Wisconsin. Go Hawks, Hi, Dan, Hi Ti, This 62 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 5: is herself from Washington State. There's big mic from Atlanta. 63 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: Dan in Minneapolis, damn Ti. 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: This is Tanner in Salt Lake. 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: I'm reaching out with an apology to my brother and 66 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: fell over baller Jordan. 67 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I planned a fall wedding, Go Coop. 68 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 6: I just was hoping y'all could please not talk about Auburn. 69 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: Winning out like you did Iowa State, because our hearts 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: just can't. 71 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Take that amount of hope. Texas is back. Oh no, wait, 72 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: sorry spoke seven win Stark. 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: Is back, Texas is back, well, Waco, Texas is back. 74 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Baylor beach Texas to. 75 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: Go seven and one. So long, short Horns have fun 76 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: in the SEC. 77 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Chicken Bears. 78 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 5: I know it's still early, but the Big Ten seems 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 5: to be doing that thing where they all see each 80 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: other again at the conference. 81 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Have you guys heard Texas is back? Just kidding? But 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: did you hear Michigan's be. 83 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 6: Just kidding? 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: Love college football? 85 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: I just wanted to call in and congratulate the Clinton 86 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: Tigers on their first win against the point spread of 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: the season thanks to the front doorsy front door covers. 88 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Man, I am so glad. 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't put real money on this sport. 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: I'd like to know who else had fsu covering by 91 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: nine and a half. 92 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: In the Dictionary, the entry next to backdoor cover just 93 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: simply says Clemson versus Florida State twenty twenty one, most 94 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: backdorious thing. 95 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. 96 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: As I drive back from watching Baylor beat Texas and listen. 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: To the college football Blitz, and here Washington the. 98 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 4: State destroying Arizona. 99 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: State, I think I've finally figured out. 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: What the PAC twelve is by at a moment of clarity, 101 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 4: the PAC twelve is bad. 102 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: Nothing is scarier. 103 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: Than an offense. 104 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: Then Iowa Wisconsin at eleven am scoring points has been 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: a great Halloween costume for Iowa this year. Why didn't they. 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: Wear it this weekend? 107 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 5: And it's time to retire the dood alert because Kenneth 108 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 5: Blacker the Third had five touchdowns against Michigan. Nobody's ever 109 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: going to top that. Retire the dood Alert. Now, Kenneth 110 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: Walker the third, that's it? 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: Go green? 112 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: Wait? 113 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: So is Jim Harball melt Tucker's little brother? Now go green? Baby? 114 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: Kind of the last fourteen, I think it's time we 115 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: start to say that Taylor. 116 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 7: Williams past, what was your favorita physics? And you DK 117 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 7: used almos stacked? Do you have six of them to 118 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 7: choose from? 119 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Guys? 120 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Six words fire, Gary Patterson? Please, thank you. 121 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: I guess that's it. I guess that's six yep. So 122 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: hoping you guys can discuss how. 123 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 4: Georgia can win a national championship as potentially the greatest 124 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: half team in history. 125 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: I think the Florida gate is just dumb. Me go dogs, 126 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: go braid. What's a glorious night? After you guys talked 127 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: to Bailey Zappi on Friday Show. 128 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: Looks like you might have got the solid verbal mid 129 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: season bump go taps. 130 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: Every time Dan plays the home Depot music, I instinctively 131 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: look for the remote control of the change the channel's disorienting, 132 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 4: especially in the car. 133 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 1: Ah, there you go, there you go, You're Week nine 134 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: reverbs had a bunch of Texas quips in there. We 135 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: had some Gym Harbaugh shade, a little bit of something 136 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: for everybody, depending where it is you live, who it 137 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: is root for. What was your impression of Week nine? 138 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: Good week? Bad week? How'd you feel about Sheryl Crow Saturday? 139 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: First of all, five jacked Fowlers. That's the scale we 140 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: use to describe how we are, how excited we are 141 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: for a specific window of games. The early slate, five 142 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: full jacked Chris Fowlers, and man, I loved it. I 143 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: loved every second of Week nine, and that's likely because 144 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: my team comfortably beat color because otherwise, I mean a 145 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of people have a lot to 146 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: be excited about. You're a Michigan State fan, if you're 147 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: a Miami fan, like across the board. But man, pretty 148 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: much everybody has some qualms, has grievances to air, even 149 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: in winning efforts. So I'm excited to talk about it 150 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: because there is almost nothing absolute about Week nine. 151 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: It was good the full way through, and as mom 152 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: Ah I think rightfully pointed out, it was exhausting. I 153 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: was exhausted last night. I hit the wall after the 154 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: Notre Dame game. Normally I would stay up and do 155 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: the late night note taking thing. I just couldn't. It 156 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: was a long day of watching football, and I felt 157 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: like having to pay attention to a degree that maybe 158 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: we don't normally have to, because, as is usually the 159 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: case when you go through a college football Saturday fits 160 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: and starts right as you like to say, You've got 161 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: moments that it's very clear, Okay, I need to pay 162 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: attention to this, I need to flip to this game. 163 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: But there was just so much action and so much 164 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: going on simultaneously that yeah, it was tough to keep 165 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: track of everything. Not so much in the way of 166 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: huge upsets or anything like that. I don't think what 167 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: we saw in Week nine was a great surprise to anybody, 168 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: but a lot of close games, a lot of high 169 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: level contests out there. So with that being said, why 170 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: don't we start with Georgia Florida because we had billed 171 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: that one as the show piece of the weekend. Look 172 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: is the world's largest outdoor cocktail party, and it's typically 173 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's always a game that we 174 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: have to pay pretty close attention to, especially in light 175 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: of what we've seen Georgia do so far this year 176 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: on both offense and defense, to be fair, and then additionally, 177 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: what we saw out of Florida a couple weeks ago, 178 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: to be very specific, in that game against Alabama when 179 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: they took Alabama sort of to the wire. Now, not 180 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: as of late, not that version of Florida, but there 181 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: was at least some promise going into this game that 182 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: Florida had potential in them amongst their ranks, that potentially 183 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: they could be an apt challenger for the Georgia Bulldogs. 184 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: That was sort of not the case, correct, that was 185 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: not the case. Florida fans got their wish We did 186 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: see Anthony Richardson get the start, and it was going 187 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: until the last what two and a half minutes the 188 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: first half. 189 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: I would say, so, yeah, I mean, he definitely looked overmatched. 190 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: I thought Damian Pierce came to play, but certainly Anthony 191 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: Richardson looked like that Georgia defense was a little bit 192 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: too fast and mysterious for him largely. And I still 193 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: think he can evolve into a really interesting quarterback. But yeah, 194 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: it was it was relatively within reach. Obviously a slow 195 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 3: start for both of these teams on offense early on, 196 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: but it was clear that in terms of what a team, 197 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: any team needs to beat Georgia, it's a quarterback, a 198 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: prepared quarterback, a confident quarterback, an offense that can do 199 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: multiple things in at least interesting ways. And that's not 200 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: what Florida was or is. 201 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: Nope. So what happened in those last two and a 202 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: half minutes of the first half, we had Florida turning 203 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: it over three times in Georgia scoring twenty one point. 204 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: It was a fumble, an interception, and then a pick six, 205 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: and that's what gave george to the separation it needed 206 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: to put this one on ice look, the defense was 207 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: again suffocating. It's just what we're going to get on 208 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: the Georgia side the full year. Through Florida's game plan, 209 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: I thought was fine. They do to some extent fit 210 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: that bill of a team that can do multiple things 211 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: and has the interesting quarterback. But despite being the first 212 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: team all year to surpass three hundred and fifty total yards, 213 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: they weren't able to get points on the board until 214 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: late and Georgia just sat on him. 215 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 7: You know. 216 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a crock potting or a 217 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: flash fry or a boat razer, if we even have 218 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: a term for it. But George's defense was very suffocating. 219 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Georgia offense looked particularly sharp, 220 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: at least not early. 221 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 7: No. 222 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: I mean, on the grounds a mere white is something else, 223 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: But no Stetson Bennett looked off. Even though he can 224 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: make plays and even though he's pretty fearless all things considered, 225 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: he was mistake prone. He is not of the caliber 226 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: of George's defense, right, But who is? 227 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, and that who is. 228 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: Nationally that's the caliber within the realm of how good 229 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: Georgia is at defense. They themselves are playing quarterback other 230 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: than Tyler van Dym. Other than Tyler van Dam than Dime. 231 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: That's what we're going with. Now. I didn't create it. 232 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: I saw somebody in the Miami Herald created it, but 233 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: I or at least referenced it yesterday other than him. Yeah, 234 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's tough to match on offense what 235 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: George is doing on defense. 236 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Georgia a little bit off on offense, but extremely timely. 237 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: They got the plays when they needed it. They were 238 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: very opportunistic, and they got the dub. Look thirty four 239 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: to seven. Nobody's going to argue with that, a resounding 240 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: statement win. I saw ESPN was going with statements Saturday, 241 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: and there was a moment when Matt Barry said it 242 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: when I wondered, does he know our little scheme here, 243 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: because he added a little extra emphasis when he said 244 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: statement Saturday, as if he was looking into my soul 245 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: right late, as. 246 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: If he were choosing between three words and three words only. 247 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: That ESPN separation Saturday statement Saturday. And I don't know 248 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: they also use Sheryl Crows Saturday. 249 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: Apparently. 250 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 7: No. 251 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean, by the way this it should not be 252 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: overlooked that Florida was able to generate a mismatch out 253 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: wide when they had a running back on Nakobe Dean 254 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: inside linebacker for Georgia, and they're like, oh man, tantalizing mismatch. 255 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: We've got a linebacker lined up as a field corner 256 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 3: and Nakobe Dean jumped the route and it was a. 257 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Pick six, fifty yard pick six to. 258 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: Kobe des side linebacker lined up at corner out wide, 259 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: pick six. 260 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: Unbelievable, just stupid, unbelievable. Yeah, thirty four to seven, A 261 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: really nice win for Georgia. They seem to be on 262 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: a collision course with Alabama. They do have a Tennessee 263 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: game coming up. I don't know if that one's going 264 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: to go any differently than this one, but big win 265 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: for them, twenty seven points in the cocktail party. Florida, 266 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: for their part, has lost three in a row and 267 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: seven of their last eleven. Not a great time at Florida. 268 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: We can unpack what it means on the Dan Mullen front, 269 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: if anything, over the days and weeks that are ahead. 270 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: Obviously there was a ton of turnover in the twenty 271 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: twenty one season that he's still having to contend with, 272 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: but certainly Florida fans are wearing a little bit thin 273 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: on the patient's side, and I get it. Yeah, Florida's 274 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: age like twenty facebook years since that Alabama lost, Right, 275 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: we were like, I remember Florida as being pretty attractive, 276 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: and now they are far lumpier than I remembered they 277 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: were in nineteen ninety facebook years. I'll have to remember 278 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: that one. Okay Toole's let's go over to the Michigan 279 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Michigan State game. Because this one was an early game 280 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: at high noon Eastern time. It set the tone for 281 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, it really did. Despite trailing late, Michigan 282 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: State went on a twenty three to three run in 283 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: about the last twenty one minutes or so of gameplay 284 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: and got the dub and got to eight and oh 285 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: and is still unbeaten. An incredible tale here for mel 286 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Tucker and the Michigan State Spartans what they were able 287 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:18,239 Speaker 1: to do and win this game. Look, it was ultimately, 288 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: in my view, a series of fumbles late for Michigan 289 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: that both figurative, Yeah, literal and figurative. JJ McCarthy unfortunately 290 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: responsible for both of them. Yeah, about midway through the 291 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: first quarter, the first came on a nice Michigan drive 292 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: that Kate McNamara was leading. Kate McNamara was sensational in 293 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: this game. But they brought in JJ McCarthy. He fumbled 294 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: it out of bound to sort of broke their momentum. 295 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: They only came away with a field goal. So they're 296 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: up thirty three to thirty at that point, still in 297 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: the lead. On the I think next play or next drive, 298 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: the ensuing drive, Michigan's out there again. Kate McNamara goes 299 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: into the injury tent, which is why JJ McCarthy came 300 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: out at all. There was some question as to why 301 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: are they doing this? Is it a Tommy reeze and 302 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly like unsure of our quarterback situation. No, Kate 303 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: McNamara was hurt. He was in the injury tent. JJ 304 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: McCarthy comes out there, fumbles it again and this time 305 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: they lost it. Yeah, and that's what sprung Michigan state free. 306 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: They go on a seven play drive, they end up 307 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: scoring the go ahead touchdown. They end up winning the 308 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: game thirty seven to thirty three. Dan big win for them. 309 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, Michigan blewett because Cad McNamara played really well 310 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: and look, he's not going to be throwing the ball 311 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: downfield like crazy because that's not what he does well. 312 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: But he hits dudes over the middle. He doesn't go 313 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: out wide all that often. But it was what andrel 314 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: Anthony the freshman who was making plays. 315 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: Who had never gotten a catch by the way right 316 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: on targetge he had run eleven roots all year and 317 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: had one target but zero catches going into this game, 318 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: and just came away like a full on dude. Six catches, 319 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five yards, two touchdowns. He's from 320 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: East Lansing, so quite a homecoming for him. Sure. 321 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: Speaking of full on dude, Kenneth Walker, we can stay 322 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: hung up on the Michigan side of things because they 323 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: blew a sizeable lead and they made mistakes with the 324 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: freshman quarterback pressed into action, although he has gotten into 325 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: the rotation some because he is the quarterback of the 326 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: future in ann Arbor. We can stay with that. Michigan 327 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: State falls down early, makes mistakes on both sides of 328 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: the ball. Obviously a safety late to come over on 329 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: that Anthony slants or whatever was crossing pattern that led 330 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: to the long long ninety three whatever yard touchdown. Yep, 331 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: Michigan State lucky to only be down what they are. 332 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: They force a field goal and only go down ten 333 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: to nothing, and then Kenneth Walker is just and even 334 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: going down like they did later on in the game, 335 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: bail them out over and over again because he is 336 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: that good, because he can see that nothing is there 337 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: up the middle of the field and can bounce and 338 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: run hard and run angry and is among the if 339 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: not the most impressive running back in the nation. Peyton Thorn, 340 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: not a particularly great day, had an unbelievable fourth down 341 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: conversion on a play action leak out after a I 342 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: think a slot guy sort of showed himself to be 343 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 3: maybe doing a rub route situation or a delayed block 344 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: on a swing pass, then leaked out and long, long, 345 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: almost touchdown. It was an incredible eventual defensive performance from 346 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: Michigan State. Eventual, eventually Kenneth Walker an ability to stay 347 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: focused and win a game that looked like it was 348 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 3: slipping away, to take advantage of Michigan mistakes, of which 349 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: there were a few, but also to just make plays 350 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 3: when the time was right. And it was a great 351 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: you know, Michigan State dropped into the zone on the 352 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: game sealing interception, a corner, peeled off, stayed within his 353 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: area and made that play sort of with one arm 354 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: bringing it into the other the interception off of Caid McNamara. 355 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: I don't put this game on Caid McNamara, But at 356 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 3: the same time, Michigan's passing game is limited. It just is, 357 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 3: and so I thought the coaches did a pretty good 358 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: job of putting him in a position to win. But 359 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: also Michigan kicked what four field goals and made them 360 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: made all four, And I just in spots like this, 361 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 3: if it's fourth and three from the other team seventeen, 362 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: at a certain point you need to say fit and 363 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: just keep the offense moving. Because Michigan stalled far too 364 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: often in the red zone to win this game and 365 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: just was happy with threes. And just like I think 366 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 3: it's Tom Fournelli points out, you know, you don't make 367 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: friends with salads from the Simpsons. You don't win big 368 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: games with field goals. 369 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: You just don't. 370 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: And I understand you're up whatever, you're getting points on 371 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 3: the board. It just has to be a non stop 372 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: killer instinct. And Michigan stopped it's killer instinct a couple 373 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: of times too often to me. 374 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: Kate mcnamaray. You mentioned his name just to throw out 375 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: his stat line to give people context. Three eighty three, 376 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, one interception. He had a really good game. 377 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of Ian Book in him, 378 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of Ian Book in him, keeps thinkings shallow, 379 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: keeps him shallow, but is accurate and has been a 380 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: pretty successful quarterback. Is buying large, very very thrifty with 381 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: the football, does not make dumb mistakes. And I think 382 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: you're right. I think the Michigan coaching staff did a 383 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: good job scheming in a way that he would well, 384 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: oh for him, specifically for him. 385 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: Don't think that the management of the game was good 386 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: for me, now. 387 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: For him, specifically with getting the passing offense going, because 388 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: that was a real question, right. We came into this 389 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: game wondering does Michigan have a second pitch. We've heard 390 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: so much about the rushing attack and what they can 391 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: do on the ground, but what happens if they get 392 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: into a throw fest? Can Kate McNamara do it? He 393 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: did his part, He really did do his part. But 394 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: Michigan State man, you know you're right to call out 395 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: Kenny Walker runs hard, runs angry. He's got pipes on 396 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: him like he's a big dude, and he goes head hunting. 397 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: He's not trying to get out of bounds. He's looking 398 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: to take people on, which I really really like about him. 399 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: That's going to serve him well as he moves forward. 400 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: I just want to reiterate how weird it is to 401 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: say Michigan State is a big playoffense because they have 402 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: a big offense. 403 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: They're a medium playoffense. They're not a small playoffense. They 404 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: are a big playoffs, big playoffense. Who needs to get 405 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: better going drive to drive, staying on the fields, you know, 406 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: converting third downs, whatever. But no, they absolutely are and 407 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 3: they made plays in spots that Michigan just couldn't. That's 408 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: what very good teams do. 409 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: Let's keep it in the big ten, Dan, Let's talk 410 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: about Ohio State thirty three Penn State twenty four. First off, 411 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: I whift on this game, how about you? Yeah? 412 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: I was very confident in Ohio State, and they essentially 413 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: snuck by a team who just lost to Illinois in 414 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: nine overtimes. So I know what we think about Ohio 415 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 3: State at this point. 416 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I whift on this game pretty badly. I was 417 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: not sure what version of Penn State we were going 418 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: to see. We talked on the previous show. I was 419 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: a little worried there was a circling of the drain 420 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: quality here for Penn State after losing to Illinois. But 421 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what version of Penn State we saw 422 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: a week ago, Like maybe it was just an enormous 423 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: look ahead spot knowing Ohio State was on deck. I 424 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: have no idea what the hell went on in the 425 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: nine overtime lost Illinois when they had a multitude of 426 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: chances that couldn't punch it in from the three freaking 427 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: yard line or whatever these new rules are. But the 428 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: Penn State that we saw last night was a much 429 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: much different team. It was much more of the Penn 430 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: State team that we saw in the first half the season. 431 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: Somehow they rebuilt Sean Clifford like he was the six 432 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: million dollar man in the last week, and he came 433 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: into this game looking sharp, looking healthy, looking like he 434 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: could potentially be good enough for Penn State to win 435 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: the game. He threw the ball fifty two times and 436 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: he looked pretty good. 437 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: Rejected with alien plasma pregame. Yeah, I don't know. 438 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: What it was, man, but he looked pretty damn good. 439 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: The problem is that Ohio State's also very good, and 440 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: they have more weapons on offense than perhaps anybody outside 441 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: of Alabama, and so over the course of sixty minutes, 442 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: those guys are going to be put in space, put 443 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: in positions to succeed. You're going to have Trevon Henderson 444 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: getting his, You're gonna have Chris O Lave getting his. 445 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: Guys are just going to get open and the defense 446 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: can only do so much like Christal Lave didn't go nuts. 447 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: Nobody went nuts, no, and so the defense, I thought 448 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: for Penn State did an admirable job trying to tame 449 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: all of these weapons that Ohio State has. It's just 450 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: over the course of time, they're going to get theirs. 451 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: And that's what I saw. Happy like, there was an 452 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: inevitable quality to this game that we could have seen 453 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: coming a mile away that I expected, frankly to be 454 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: a lot worse. But Penn State was able to control 455 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: the damage. They were much much better on offense. Still 456 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: can't run for a lick, but this point that's just 457 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: like what we assume as fact with Penn State. But 458 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: I thought they came out there, they had a good 459 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: game plan, they got Johan Dotson in space. Sean Clifford 460 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: looked good. It was really just a function of Ohio 461 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: State in the end being the better team, making a 462 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: few more plays when they had to, and getting the 463 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: job done at home. To be honest with you, I 464 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: think it raises more questions about the Buckeyes. 465 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: They were not good in the red zone. And granted 466 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: Penn State's defense stood tall, right, they would bend but 467 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: not break. But it was over and over again, Ohio 468 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: State settling for field goals and you know, turning the 469 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: ball over on downs whatever. They were not closing the 470 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 3: game or they were not closing drives. Penn State couldn't 471 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: close the game. That's the issue. So Penn State allowed 472 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 3: what ten offensive points in the first half because it 473 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: was a fifty some odd yard scoop and score right 474 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: from yeah jeron Jaron Cage, which is unfortunate because if 475 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: Penn State's able to hold Ohio State to if my 476 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: math is correct, twenty six offensive points, it's a winnable 477 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 3: it's a winnable goal. And Penn State just could not 478 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: close the game out. So there so they So Sean 479 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 3: Clifford throws a pick with eleven minutes left. I returned 480 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: twenty five yards in the fourth quarter and then they 481 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: punt it right after not being able to do anything. 482 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: There was like the weird when he stepped out of 483 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: bounds the receiver and. 484 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: Very visibly just ran out of bounds and came back in. 485 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 3: Just was like, what if I go this way? What 486 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: if I go And there was no sense at all 487 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: on the broadcast or in the crowd of like, oh 488 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: my god, this is a game changing moment. I was like, no, 489 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 3: that was very obvious, and so Penn State couldn't close 490 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: at all. There was no threat of closing. I it 491 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 3: was thirty three twenty four with a couple of minutes 492 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: left with Penn State with the ball, and I just 493 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: kind of went to bed, And I mean, was there 494 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: was no confidence that Penn State could do anything in 495 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: terms of having two three minutes left and score quick 496 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 3: or kick a quick field goal and odds like, I 497 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 3: just know that's it. 498 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so, Tim No, I mean and on 499 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: the Ohio State side. Let me just come back to 500 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: this point, because I think we've had a pretty good 501 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: debate on this show about where we're each at with 502 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: regard to Ohio State. Yeah, I'm going on radio shows 503 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: telling people they're the best team in the country. All right, 504 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: That's where I've been over the last couple weeks, and 505 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: look to be fair. Four hundred and sixty six yards 506 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: and twenty six offensive points against a pretty good defense, 507 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: Top ten defense. Ohio State's fine. They're probably getting a 508 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: little better each week. But I do think that the 509 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: month of November looks a lot more interesting in retrospect. 510 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: It was probably premature to just write them into the playoff, 511 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: write them in as Big ten champs for that matter, 512 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: which I think is what's been stuck in your craw 513 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: the last couple weeks because Ohio State's been getting theirs. 514 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: They've been playing against substandard competition. They played against a 515 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: pretty good team in Penn State. We think pretty good team. 516 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: I think they're pretty good, and they were in for 517 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: more of a game than certainly Vegas expected. 518 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 519 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: I liked a lot of what I saw from Penn State. 520 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 3: For a chunk of this game, right, Johan Dotson was 521 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: taken away and Parker Washington made play. Sean Clifford was 522 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: stepping into balls, Brenton Strange, the tight ends were making plays. 523 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: The defense was making plays. You have that really nice 524 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: Chris Olave touchdown that was pretty wide open. Garrett Wilson 525 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: was making place for Ohio State, and Penn State's able 526 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: to weather it. The problem is, like you said, Ohio 527 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: State merely played fine on offense. This was not an 528 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: overwhelming performance from Ohio State. But if that's enough to 529 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 3: beat a very good Penn State defense, watch out everybody 530 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: else until I suppose playoff time because there's nobody in 531 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: the West. 532 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: There's still wrinkles to iron out too. With this offense. 533 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: You could see it. I mean there was the one 534 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: very obvious throw that CJ. Stroud miss the guy in 535 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: the slot wide open. 536 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd still rather be Ohio State than pretty much 537 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: anybody else. 538 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well, elsewhere in the Big Ten, we had 539 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: Wisconsin twenty seven to seven over Iowa. We had Minnesota 540 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: forty one to fourteen over Northwestern Maryland in a fun 541 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: one thirty eight to thirty five over Indiana, Rutgers getting 542 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: to four and four on the year with a twenty 543 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: to fourteen win over Illinois, and Perdue with a big 544 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: old middle finger to Scott Frost twenty eight to twenty three. Dan, 545 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: Why don't we start very quickly with that Wisconsin game. Sure, 546 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: at one point in this game I texted you Wisconsin 547 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: was up twenty to nothing inside like the last what 548 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: three minutes maybe the first half, and Iowa's offense had 549 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: a massed five yards fifteen feet of offense five yards 550 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: of offense. Now they got more. They finished with I 551 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: think one hundred and fifty six. But that being said, 552 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: not entirely unexpected, given what we've come to know about 553 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: the Iowa offense and certainly the Wisconsin defense. But it 554 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: only tells part of the story here, because in a 555 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: very weird shift of karma, Iowa fumbled three times inside 556 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: their own twenty in the second quarter, which gave wisconstant 557 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: ten free points. I always been living on that through 558 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: the first seven weeks of the season, turnover differential short fields, 559 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: not having to do too much on offense. In this game, 560 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: it swung back around and it got. 561 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 6: Them punt punts, punts, fumble fumble punts, punts, punts, he 562 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 6: he touchdowns, downs, downs, punts downs. 563 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: And of. 564 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: Maybe they weren't booing Penn State players, maybe they were 565 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: pre booing their own offense. Maybe they were saying new 566 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator new offensive coordinator, because Iowa is going to 567 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: play with one hand behind its back as long as 568 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: they're running this offense under Brian Farrence. The offensive line 569 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: weirdly enough, not that good, not that good this year. 570 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: The tackles were beat over and over again. Wisconsin did 571 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: its part on offense, you know, Graham Ertz was fine. 572 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: They ran the ball, they took advantage of short fields. 573 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: It was a relatively easy win. I think both Wisconsin 574 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: and Minnesota control their destiny right in the Big Ten West. Yeah, 575 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: Iowa has scored seven points in each of their last 576 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 3: two games, and this one I believe came after a bye. 577 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: Correct. 578 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: Yep, elsewhere in the Big Ten? Anything else stand out 579 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: to you? 580 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: Minnesota very quiet six and two, yet theirs on the ground, 581 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: albeit against Northwestern. The Maryland Indiana game was pretty fun. 582 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: We saw Donovan McCully, the freshman from Indianapolis, get the 583 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: start for indian and he looked pretty good at two touchdowns. 584 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: Maryland gets off the Schneide breaks their three game losing streak. 585 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: They're now at five and three. Got their own drive 586 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: for six going on right now. The month of November 587 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: gets pretty tough, but it seems that there's an easy 588 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: path or an easier path to get the six that 589 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: doesn't involve beating Penn State or some of the other 590 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: better teams. They do have Michigan to close out the year. 591 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: I think the big thing for me, though, is that 592 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: the Scott Frost thing has to be over now, right, 593 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: I think, so it's got to be coming to an end. 594 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: It's buy out dependent if they need to find places 595 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: to find those dollars. But do you know how hard 596 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: it is, by the way, to lose a turnover battle 597 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: four to nil and almost win. I know, I know, 598 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: And on a certain level, it's impressive by both of 599 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: these teams. Like Purdue is not that good of a team, 600 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: and they were spotted a bunch of turnovers by Iowa 601 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: and comfortably won that game. They were spotted every kind 602 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: of interception, of which were Adrian Martinez's fault, as I 603 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: pointed out to you, just a variety of interception types, 604 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: and yet still couldn't get David Bell going consistently. This 605 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: is a good Nebraska defense for sure, but Purdue's not 606 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: all that good. But they're able to hold on. Twenty 607 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: eight to twenty three, I believe is the final. But 608 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: man I I don't know. I don't know what it 609 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: is that you can expect from bringing Scott Frost back. 610 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: That's different. 611 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 612 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: What evidence do we have at this point that he's 613 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: going to start winning close games, that quarterbacks are going 614 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: to develop into lethal weapons occasionally, Like, I don't know, 615 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: I don't see it. 616 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, a career high four interceptions for Adrian Martinez. As 617 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: you pointed out, three of them were really his fault. 618 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: One was off the hands of a tight end. It 619 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: was their sixth loss this season by a touchdown or less. 620 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: Just a backbreaker, backbreaker to lose at home against Purdue, 621 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: and it would seemingly be the end of the frost erap. 622 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: But we'll see. Yeah, I'll say good for Maryland. You're right. 623 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: Illinois on their own drive they now need to win 624 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: out after losing to Rutgers. Rutgers four and four not 625 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: having an amazing ear, but four and four is four 626 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: and four is four and four. Illinois finishes out. I 627 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: don't know. I know, obviously they have Northwestern, but on 628 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: their own drive to say. 629 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the drive for six is over for them, it's belief. 630 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: So they can beat Northwestern, they can get to four 631 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: and eight, which all things considered, beating Penn State, Northwestern 632 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: and Nebraska. 633 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: Not bad, weird, not bad that all right, Let's go 634 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: over to the SEC. Alabama was on buy but it 635 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: is today. Actually we're recording on Sunday. It's Nick Saban's 636 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 1: seventieth birthday. Hey, happy birthday to sir Nick. Let's start 637 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: with the Auburn ole Miss game. 638 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: Dan, Auburn was wired to wire. I mean the second 639 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: half was, or the second quarter, excuse me, was back 640 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: and forth. But Auburn ran the ball really well. I 641 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: thought the receivers did a nice job, especially in higher 642 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: leverage moments. It was what Hudson and Robertson. Robertson Sean 643 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: Shivers made a couple of clutch catches. Bo Nix looked 644 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: comfortable throwing in rhythm like. 645 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: Boh, good bow, he's back. 646 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 3: It's not even just good bow. It's evolved. Bo. Maybe 647 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: they always need to wear the orange face masks, that 648 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: the Halloween face mask. 649 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: Whatever it was. 650 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: But Auburn did a really nice job, especially tightening up 651 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: in the red zone on defense as ole Miss was 652 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: moving the ball. Matt Krow, crazy beat up was basically 653 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 3: playing on no ankles. And so Auburn did a really 654 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 3: nice job against Ole Miss on the ground because they 655 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: just sort of figured that's where the Rebels were gonna 656 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: be able to move the ball. Not so much. I 657 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: just came away impressed by Auburn, Impressed by the Auburn crowd. 658 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: It was just in terms of electricity, one of the 659 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: more impressive TV shows of the day. I agree, Wall 660 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: to Wall a really fun watch if you're a college 661 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: football fan. Obviously not if you're an old Miss fan. 662 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: But Auburn very cool. I don't you know. One of 663 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 3: the callers on the on the reverb said like don't 664 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: curse Auburn with saying like how many can they win? 665 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: Auburn's just a good team. I don't know what the 666 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 3: long term prognosis is for Auburn football, because recruiting does 667 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: not appear to be in an amazing place at the moment. 668 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 3: But this year specifically impressive, really impressive. 669 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: It's impressive. They go on the road next week at 670 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: A and M, which would be a great game. They've 671 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: got Mississippi State at home, South Carolina on the road 672 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: a week before the Alabama game. The Iron Bowl be 673 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: very interesting this year. Alabama will of course be favored. 674 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm assuming by at least a touchdown, probably more. But 675 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: Auburn's a good team. Auburn's a solid team, and this 676 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: was a really solid win at home against a team 677 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: in Old Miss that, you know, albeit Matt Carroll being 678 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: a bit beat up, All Miss can put up points. 679 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and bo Nick's throwing into the A and M 680 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: defense is very scary. But those games before the PAMA game, 681 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 3: I mean, at the very least, they're going to be 682 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: competitive and they're winnable. I don't I'm not crazy confident, 683 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 3: but like, can they go, Oh, can Auburn at this 684 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 3: point go which games have they lost? They lost to 685 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: Penn State and they lost to Georgige obviously, so justifiable losses. 686 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: They can go nine to three, get to ten with 687 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: a bowl like they can. A and M's gonna be 688 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 3: very tough. A and M's gonna be very tough with 689 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 3: Kyle Field. 690 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, look, you'll take that in year one, Brian Harson, 691 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: You'll take that one to nine and four. It's fine, 692 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: absolutely all right. Elsewhere in the SEC Mississippi State thirty one, 693 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: Kentucky seventeen. The Cats got off to a hot start here, 694 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: Josh a Lee returned a punt for a touchdown for 695 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: like seventy five yards, but did not go well from 696 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: there on out. Kentucky had four turnovers, three of which 697 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: were interceptions by Will Levis. The running game was held 698 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: in check. They just finished with two hundred and sixteen 699 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: total yards on offense. A hell of a game for 700 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Will Rogers for Mississippi State. He broke an SEC record 701 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: at this thirty six of thirty nine passing for three 702 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: hundred and forty four yards. That's a ninety two percent 703 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: completion percentage. That breaks the SEC record for any game 704 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: with thirty or more passing attempts. That ninety two percent 705 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: completion percentage. So yeah, a little bit inside baseball there, 706 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: But I think the operative point is just that Will 707 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: Rogers had a really good game against a good defense 708 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: in Kentucky as a game they lost last year, I 709 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: think would we say twenty four to two something in 710 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: that vicinity, So a nice bounce back effort for them. 711 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: They also got it done on the ground too, It 712 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: wasn't just all through the air. Three touchdowns on the 713 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: ground form Mississippi State. So all in all, really good effort. 714 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, fumbling issues from Kentucky as well did not help. 715 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 3: And yeah, Mississippi State defensively, I thought was the story 716 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 3: you mentioned the Will Rodgers thing certainly impressive and it 717 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: wasn't just like three yard hitches or anything like that. 718 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: He was going downfield, he was making plays. And even 719 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 3: though even though Mississippi State didn't run the ball all 720 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 3: that well, there's some sort of nugget in the back 721 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 3: of my head that's a weird way to phrase things, 722 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: but that Mike Leach teams and air Raid teams are 723 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 3: actually better the less they throw the ball. That they 724 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 3: have that you know, overwhelming part of their offense is 725 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 3: throwing the ball like crazy. But when they are able 726 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 3: to run the ball and keep defense is a little 727 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 3: bit honest and throw the ball maybe fewer than forty 728 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 3: times forty five times, they become a lot more interesting. Obviously, 729 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 3: Mississippi State's defense this year has been a big reason 730 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: why they've won the games that they won. But no 731 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 3: really impressive performance against a good Kentucky team. Now, forcing mistakes, 732 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 3: taking advantage of mistakes, it's what pretty good teams do. 733 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 3: And I still believe in that as a Mississippi State believer. 734 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: A Mississippi State believer, Dan Rubins, that's me. Yeah. To 735 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: close out the SEC, we had Miszoo thirty seven to 736 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: twenty eight. Not a whole lot to add here, but 737 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: Missoo gets back to five hundred with this win. Tyler 738 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: Batty had a monster game, two hundred and fifty four 739 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: yards on thirty one carries from Miszoo. 740 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, game was within reach fourth quarter for Vandy to 741 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 3: try to get their first win in the SEC, but 742 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: it was not to be over. 743 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: In Big twelve Country Dan Baylor thirty one, Texas twenty four. 744 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: A lot of Texas being back jokes on the reverblind, 745 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: a lot of seven wins, Sarks seven wins, Steve Stevie 746 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: one move, I don't know what other names, Steve second 747 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: half step. Yeah, whatever monikers we have for coach Sarkhesian, 748 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: they were all in effect here with this Baylor Texas game. Now, 749 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: I know you have some thoughts on Texas, so I'd 750 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: like to let you do the damage. But let me 751 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: just say a few quick things about Bays because I 752 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: was on Baylor in this game. Same on our Solid 753 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: Saturday stream, we talked about how the Bears are very steady, 754 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: and that was not meant to undersell anything that the 755 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: Bears have done this year. But they're they're solid. There 756 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: was a real opportunity in this game for things to 757 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: come off the swivel because there were some early turnovers, 758 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,959 Speaker 1: uncharacteristic turnovers, mistakes, especially for Gary Bohannon. Yeah, the picks 759 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: weren't great. I think it was admirable the way he 760 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: pulled together after some of those early mistakes. And that's 761 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: sort of the mantra for this Dave Randa team. Be disciplined, 762 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 1: limit your mistakes, don't get too high, don't get too low. 763 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: If you can do all of that, that will get 764 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: you places in twenty twenty one in a season that 765 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: thus far has been defined by extremes. The fact that 766 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: Baylor is pretty even keel, especially in a game like 767 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: this that really could have went south for them, that's 768 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: meaningful and I think that's why they came out as 769 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: a victor thirty one to twenty four. Go ahead, your turn. 770 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 3: Baylor had one penalty in this game. One pretty good 771 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 3: first three drives the second half all went for touchdowns. 772 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 3: Fourth quarter finish strong good. There are just a lot 773 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 3: of hallmarks of good teams that Baylor is showing now. 774 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: There are hallmarks of inconsistent teams and sloppy teams at times. 775 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: For Baylor, sure, but the Texas thing is fascinating because 776 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 3: once again they jump out. You know, Xavier Worthy has 777 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 3: the big catch, They make plays, Casey Thompson makes plays. 778 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's a team that disappears. 779 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 3: It's a team that does not have an offensive line 780 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 3: that should instill confidence in anybody. And it's a team 781 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 3: that can't tackle, can't consistently get to the quarterback, and 782 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 3: can't capitalize on mistakes as often as they should, and 783 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 3: can't capitalize on their own momentum as often as they should. 784 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 3: And that's okay, it's year one. What we're looking for 785 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: is and if Texas's final record is not going to 786 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 3: be crazy impressive, they have playmakers on offense, but this 787 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 3: is not a deep team on either side of the ball. 788 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 3: It's again, year one, so you want to see progress 789 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 3: over the course of the season, which we haven't always seen. 790 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 3: But you want to see progress year one to year 791 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 3: two and two to three and so forth. So I'm 792 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 3: confident Texas can make progress in a number of areas. 793 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: I think defensively they're going to get better. They need 794 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: to tackle better, and they need to. When they're up 795 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 3: twenty one to ten, treat that as the first quarter. It's, 796 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: you know, everything is a new moment, and I think 797 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 3: Texas just gets in their own head a little bit 798 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: too often and it shows. It's what seventeen to three 799 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 3: lead against Oklahoma State, twenty eight to three against Oklahoma now, 800 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 3: twenty one to ten against Baylor. Yeah, And I don't 801 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 3: know if they have the depth. I don't know if 802 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: it's the killer instinct. I don't know what it is. 803 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 3: I don't know if Casey Thompson's in his own head. 804 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 3: But Texas just gets to certain points and slows down. 805 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's an adjustment thing. I 806 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 3: don't know if it's a defense being exhausted thing because 807 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 3: they're not coached well enough or they're not just deep enough. 808 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: But it. 809 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 3: I'm droning on and on about Texas. Baylor's the better team. 810 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 3: Baylor won the game. Baylor is the more impressive story 811 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 3: with its relatively new coach. 812 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: Speaking of disappearing acts, let's talk about Iowa State. Yeah, 813 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: Iowa State, your state cyclones, Iowa State cyclones who I 814 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: apparently jinxed by claiming they were going to run the table. 815 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: West Virginia thirty eight, Iowa State thirty one. Good for 816 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: West Virginia forgetting this win. At least by my count, 817 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: six of their eight games have been stressful as hell 818 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: this year, yep, and this one was no different, to 819 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: be fair, but it definitely feels a little bit better 820 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: to come away with the dub if you're West Virginia. 821 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: They played well on offense and particularly on defense, like 822 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: they held Iowa State to just two of twelve on 823 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: third downs and outside of what two big plays for 824 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: Iowa State, Cyclones were held under three hundred total yards 825 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: of offense, So I thought a good team effort from 826 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: West Virginia. Good for them. Of note, on the Iowa 827 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: State side, they were without Mike Rose, They're leading tackler. 828 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: He was hurt, and just like that, they gave up 829 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: close to five hundred yards of offense. So what difference 830 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: does one man make in the Iowa State case? A 831 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: pretty big one. But all the credit here is due 832 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: to West Virginia. They played a hell of a game. 833 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: Jared Dagi hit a receiver over and over again, and 834 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that catch that I 835 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 3: believe was ruled a touchdown for West Virginia, which wasn't 836 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 3: super clear if his feet were down in the back 837 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 3: of the end zone. It was an amazing catch, but 838 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 3: that stood. I know there's always going to be official 839 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 3: blaming and everything like that. There was the fumble with 840 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 3: weird angles in the fourth quarter for Iowa State, but yeah, 841 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 3: I just Iowa State had its chances. Iowa State was 842 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 3: basically too good a guest getting off the field quickly 843 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 3: on offense, especially on third down. There were what I'm 844 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 3: seeing right here, two of twelve on third down, twelve 845 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 3: home crowd came to see the West Virginia Mountaineers, and 846 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 3: Iowa State made sure the West Virginia Mountaineers stayed on 847 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 3: the field on offense. So Iowa State has had its opportunities, 848 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 3: gave up too many points, too many opportunities, too many mistakes. 849 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 3: And even still, even still, Iowa State was able to 850 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 3: make plays like rock Party wasn't great downfield, but the 851 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 3: receivers were pretty good. Breeze Hall, of course, carries this 852 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,959 Speaker 3: team on his back once again, and it's just it's 853 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 3: too much when you're giving up that much on defense. 854 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 1: All right, Elsewhere in the Big twelve k State thirty one. 855 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 3: Damn he c U twelve. 856 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 1: All right, so let's start with the headliner. I'm gonna 857 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: try and say his name correctly. You'll do it. You'll 858 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: nail it. Felix and you dk U Zama. That's I 859 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: think that's pretty good. I looked up the pronunciation guide. 860 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: Four sacks officially and two forced fumbles. At first, it 861 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: seemed like he had tied an NCAA record with six, 862 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: but the nc DOUBLEA they swooped in with him well 863 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 1: actually about two hours six sacks after the game and 864 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: said that two of them were quarterback rushes and not sacks. 865 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: But whatever, all time, dude, effort for this guy. As 866 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: K State just freaking killed TCU. They kill them. They 867 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: killed them on the lines. They were up thirty one 868 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: to five with a minute and a half left. TCU 869 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: scored a garbage time touchdown with fifteen seconds left to 870 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: make it look a little closer. But when you're scoring 871 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: garbage time touchdowns to pull within nineteen of case State, 872 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: I just don't know how it's going. For Gary Patterson, 873 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 1: I know how it's going. They're getting worse every week. 874 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 3: There's going to be a difficult conversation at the end 875 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 3: of this season, or it's already been had, or it'll 876 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 3: happen next season, or at the end of next season. 877 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 3: Because where TCU is right now is lost, and I'm 878 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 3: not sure that they have a map. I don't know 879 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 3: that they have any sort of GPS advantage at the moment. 880 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,479 Speaker 3: And Case State, to their credit duz Von another Ducevon game, 881 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 3: you know, fourth and short, whatever explodes. I thought Skyler 882 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 3: Thompson was dealing extremely well, spread the ball out really impressively. 883 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 3: Case State's a pretty good team. They make too many 884 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 3: mistakes against some of the better competition that they play, 885 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 3: and they've been beat up. Obviously, Skyler Thompson missing time 886 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 3: doesn't help. Sure, But the story to me is still 887 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 3: Max Duggan leaves the game. It was what Chandler Morris 888 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 3: comes in like TCU can't really figure it out on 889 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 3: either side of the ball, and that's a poor reflection. No, 890 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 3: Zach Evans didn't play in this game. He removed all 891 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 3: traces of TCU allegiance on his Instagram and everyone's, oh 892 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 3: my god, maybe he's gone. 893 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. 894 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 3: Obviously, his recruitment was turbulent, to say the least. I 895 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 3: would say so, maybe he has moved on. 896 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 897 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 3: Kendre Miller ran relatively well, but TCU is a lost 898 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 3: program right now. I don't know a better way to 899 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 3: describe it. And K State is getting its act together. 900 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: K State is getting its act together. So good win 901 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: by the Whitecat's great effort on defense just a mouneymental effort, 902 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: singular performance on defense. Great, great job, Dan, We have 903 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: breaking news. 904 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is This is many hours after we were 905 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 3: or did the reaction show, and we do yes on. 906 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: Demand audio is not always kind to breaking news. We 907 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: thought we needed to insert a little bit of commentary 908 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: to address the elephant in the room. We talked about 909 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: the other elephants with respect to the K State TCU game, 910 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: but a pretty big news story dropped this evening, Dan, 911 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 1: did it not correct? 912 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 3: Yes, Gary Patterson effective immediately has stepped down, mutually agreed 913 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 3: with TCU that they would go their separate ways. And 914 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 3: this is after what did you say, twenty twenty one years? 915 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: Twenty one years. Yeah, he's been there a long time. 916 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: He has obviously taken TCU to great heights. They are 917 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 1: now a Power five program, They're in the Big twelve. 918 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: His career record one point eighty one and seventy nine, 919 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: so clearly a legend. The guy's got a statue. But 920 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: as we alluded just a few minutes ago, when we 921 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: recorded earlier on Sunday, things started to feel like they 922 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: were off the swivel. And yeah, it definitely started to 923 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 1: feel a lot like TCU was getting worse. There was 924 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: all sorts of writing on the wall that this was 925 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: not long for this college football world. And yeah, the 926 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: news became official on Sunday evening that TCU and Gary 927 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: Patterson mutually parting ways. 928 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, as for where TCU has been recently, obviously, 929 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 3: the defense taking a step back every so often. Some 930 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 3: years it would be interesting, some years not so interesting. 931 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 3: This year has been pretty bad in terms of defensive performance, 932 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 3: of course, and that's just not what a Gary Patterson 933 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 3: team typically looks like. And whether it's a one off, 934 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 3: whether it's a recruiting thing, a development thing, an injury thing, 935 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 3: and all of the above thing, it just felt off 936 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 3: in Fort Worth right now. And I mean, not to 937 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: eulogize him, I don't believe there's anything wrong with his health. 938 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 3: I think he's okay, and I hope he finds a 939 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 3: lot of happiness. Whatever next chapter is, whether it's singing 940 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 3: country songs like we've seen him do or if he 941 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 3: moves on to another coaching journey. What he did at 942 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 3: TCU is nothing short of pretty incredible to be there 943 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 3: as long as he was to take them. It was 944 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 3: what Conference USA and then the Mountain West. He won 945 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 3: nine double digit game seasons. He was responsible for nine 946 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 3: double digit win seasons over the course of I think 947 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 3: twenty five to twenty seventeen. If if my ability to 948 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 3: count has added up, I think the most memorable of 949 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 3: those seasons probably remains what twenty ten and twenty fourteen. 950 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 3: Twenty ten when TSU fans would absolutely consider themselves to 951 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,760 Speaker 3: this day to be national championship worthy. That was Oregon 952 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 3: Auburn that season and TCU wins the Rose Bowl over Wisconsin. 953 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 3: That was was an Andy Dalton, Justin fwente Wayman, James 954 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 3: ed Wesley. If all those names still resonate with you, 955 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 3: that means you're a good fan of the Mountain West 956 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 3: of TCU. And of course twenty fourteen was Trevon Boykin 957 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 3: and Josh Dockson. Where the big headliners there they end 958 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 3: up going to the Peach Bowl, being left out of 959 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 3: the playoff even though they were number three I believe 960 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 3: a week before the final rankings, and then blew out 961 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 3: Kansas and suddenly weren't a playoff caliber team. So those 962 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 3: years were incredible. Of course, my own emotions are tied 963 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 3: to Gary Patterson and him changing his shirt at halftime 964 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,320 Speaker 3: of the Alamobile in that crazy thirty one to nothing comeback. 965 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 3: But what he did at TCU just in terms of 966 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 3: developing talent, winning just a crapload of games, and putting 967 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 3: that program on the map unlike anybody else in the 968 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 3: modern era. Of course, at TCU, just an incredible run 969 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 3: for the Frogs and for Gary Patterson. 970 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: Some of the early names that have been thrown out there, 971 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: Sunny Dykes from SMU, sure potentially having his pick of 972 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: the litter between TCU and Texas Tech if he wants 973 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: to stay in the Great State of Texas. There was 974 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 1: also some news about Jeff Trailers signing a gigantic contract 975 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: extension with UTSA, so at least for the time, it 976 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 1: seems as if he would no longer be in the running. 977 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if that means anything time their buyouts 978 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: or buyouts or buyouts. Billy Napier's another name in the 979 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: southeastern part of the US that could potentially garner some 980 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: interest here as well. This will clearly develop more over 981 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: the course of time. TCU not a bad job at all. 982 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,240 Speaker 3: No, And by the way, this announcement really. 983 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 1: Screws over Texas Tech. 984 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that was the headline available job in Texas 985 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 3: in the Big twelve, major powerful job, and TCU is 986 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 3: in my estimation, a better job than Texas Tech just 987 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 3: because you're in the DFW area and you're just closer 988 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 3: to a lot of big talent, and so no, it'll 989 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 3: be a fascinating Big twelve carousel and can't wait to 990 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 3: see what happens. Both of those jobs are good, but 991 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 3: TCU certainly a high, high level job in my estimation. 992 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: Much more to come on this opening and many other 993 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: openings that are already out there and some which I 994 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: think are yet to come. But in the meantime, on 995 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,280 Speaker 1: with the show. Closing it out with the two programs 996 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,240 Speaker 1: in the state of Oklahoma. Caleb Williams with six touchdown 997 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 1: passes as Oklahoma wins fifty two to twenty one over 998 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Again looks very very sharp, but did you 999 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 1: see the Spencer Rattler touchdown pass late in the game, 1000 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: I did, yeah from midfield that. I don't know if 1001 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: I've ever seen anybody throw a ball that hard. Mm hmm. 1002 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,439 Speaker 1: He has some steam he's looking to blow off. It's 1003 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: clear from that pass Spencer Ratler is not done as 1004 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback in college football. He threw that ball so frickin' 1005 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: hard to Brian Darby long touchdown pass in the fourth quarter. 1006 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: He did come in seven touchdown passes on the day 1007 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: for the collection of Oklahoma quarterbacks. 1008 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Marvin Mims and Mario Williams both very very good. 1009 00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams just he just looks like an Oklahoma quarterback, 1010 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 3: doesn't he He's just with the way he moves, the 1011 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 3: way he scans the field, with his increased comfort and 1012 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 3: confidence within the offense, the way he will sort of 1013 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 3: run up to the line of scrimmage and do the 1014 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield Kyler curve to the right to buy himself 1015 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 3: a little bit more time and lull the defense into 1016 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 3: thinking he's running and then launch something downfield. He just 1017 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 3: looks like that guy. I don't know how better to 1018 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 3: describe it. Obviously, Texas tech dealing with a lame duck situation. 1019 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 3: So it was always going to be tough to go 1020 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 3: to Norman and look competitive. But man, Caleb Williams checked 1021 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 3: every box, and I believe you grabbed him as a 1022 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 3: Heisman candidate. I got him baby ungodly impressive plus money position. 1023 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: Yep, I got him for five bucks. Five bucks at 1024 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: what number? 1025 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 5: Uh? 1026 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: At least sixteen to one. I have to check this, 1027 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, look, meetball subs on you, it's 1028 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: meetball subs on me. It's hard to expect that anybody 1029 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,720 Speaker 1: outside of Kenny Dubbs is going to be the Heisman 1030 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: favorite at this point, right, I would. 1031 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 3: Assume even so, just in terms of brand recognition. As 1032 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 3: much as I hate that term Oklahoma quarterback versus Michigan 1033 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 3: State running back, there's a leg up right now. 1034 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that Caleb Williams is the front runner. 1035 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 3: I don't think he is fifty one to play more 1036 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 3: fifty to one. You grabbed him at fifty to one, 1037 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,399 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, Yeah, meatball subs for a lot of us 1038 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 3: on you. 1039 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: That's right. 1040 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 3: If he comes through, yeah, I don't know. I don't 1041 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 3: know if c J. Stroud I just the Heisman seems 1042 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 3: wide open, Bryce Young, will Anderson, Keevon Thibodeau. 1043 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of guys and finally in the big 1044 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: twelve to close it out, Oklahoma State resoundingly over Kansas. 1045 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: Not every school in Oklahoma struggles against the Kansas Street. 1046 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: Good point. Let's go to the ACC. What a day 1047 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: in the ACC. 1048 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 3: Huh? 1049 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: Well, you know history is decorated with the fine achievements 1050 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: of many great vans. Van Buren was a present, didn't 1051 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: Van Winkle. We know about rip Van, of course, Van Wilder, 1052 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 1: the van down by the river, the van dams from 1053 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 1: the sound of music. I don't think it's premature to 1054 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: add Tyler Van Dyke to that, do you not? At all? 1055 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: Two games is plenty TVD thirty two of forty two, 1056 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty six yards, three touchdowns, one interception. 1057 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,879 Speaker 1: The one interception was kind of an armpump. We don't 1058 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: count that against him, do we not? Fully? What did 1059 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: you think of watching another game of TVD? As the 1060 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 1: legend builds as Miami knocked off the pit Panthers. This 1061 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: was a big game. This was a road tilt for 1062 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: those Miami Hurricanes. Manny Diaz was on the edge until 1063 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 1: TVD just rose like a phoenix from the desert to 1064 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: erect this program. I saw I say erect this program. No, 1065 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: that's called that's to resurrect this program. Erect means to 1066 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: launch up word and it works. 1067 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:06,800 Speaker 3: That's your interpretation of English. Tvd's very very good, especially 1068 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 3: considering the two opponents he started against ACC opponents. That is, 1069 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how anybody can come away anything but 1070 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 3: crazy impressed. I mean both quarterbacks in this game. Now 1071 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett would like to get back a couple throws 1072 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 3: in a couple of plays, of course, But yeah, to me, 1073 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 3: the story in this game is Tyler Van Dyke rising 1074 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 3: to the occasion once again, this time on the road 1075 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 3: against what has to be considered the ACC favorite in 1076 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 3: pit given recent results and the ease with which Pitt 1077 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 3: has won games. And he looked like I think there 1078 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 3: were similarities to me. It's not an analog, it's not 1079 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 3: one to one, but there is a little bit of 1080 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 3: justin Herbert to me to Tyler Van Dyke, in that 1081 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 3: the offensive scheme has not always been sound. The receivers 1082 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 3: have not always been consistent, there have been drops, there 1083 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 3: have been miscommunications, but the confidence with which Tyler Van 1084 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 3: Dyke throws the ball down all over the place. 1085 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: It's a little. 1086 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 3: Reminiscent to me to come in young and be fully 1087 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 3: prepared to dominate. I don't know what his final stat line, 1088 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 3: he was well over four hundred yards for twenty six. Yeah, 1089 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 3: four twenty six. I just I mean Jalen Knighton was 1090 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 3: very good on the ground. I just came away very 1091 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 3: impressed with Miami. I know they gave up a ton 1092 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 3: to Kenny Pickett and the passing attack from Pitt, but 1093 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,919 Speaker 3: they were able to turn him over a couple of times. 1094 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 3: They're over, able to get stops, able to make plays. 1095 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 3: The game came down to the wire. It exploded out 1096 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 3: of the gate by the way, Oh yes, well, oh 1097 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 3: yeah yeah. So one of the more entertaining games of 1098 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 3: the day. And it's a what am I supposed to 1099 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,439 Speaker 3: do with my hands Miami fan situation. I'm not used 1100 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 3: to being a Miami fan and loving the quarterback play. 1101 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 3: It's been a minute since I guess the best of 1102 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 3: Brad Kaya. 1103 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1104 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Tyler Van Dyke is on a h he's 1105 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 3: on an ascension. 1106 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on a tear. Here. You mentioned, Yeah, five 1107 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen yards in a losing effort, three touchdowns, 1108 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: two interceptions. They were two very costly interceptions. The first 1109 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: led to a Miami touchdown. The second came as pitt 1110 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: was trying to go for the go ahead touchdown late 1111 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: in the game. So good game for him. It was 1112 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 1: all on Kenny Pictet if they were as sad, very 1113 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: very good all right. Elsewhere in the ACC we'll talk 1114 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: about the Notre Dame North Carolina game here forty four 1115 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: to thirty four. Notre Dame wins. This game was quite 1116 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 1: literally exactly what I expected. You did call this pretty close. Actually, 1117 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: it was exactly what I expected. Notre Dame pulled away 1118 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: early in the fourth quarter. It was a tight back 1119 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: and forth game up to that point, but they got 1120 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of separation in the fourth quarter. They 1121 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: were able to keep Carolina at arms length for the 1122 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: latter half of that final quarter and win and cover 1123 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: the point spread. They ran the ball really well, which 1124 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: is what I was hoping for and what I was 1125 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: looking for. Interesting, Yeah, specifically two hundred and ninety three 1126 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 1: yards three touchdowns on the ground for the Irish, led 1127 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: by kyn Williams, who had a great game, had a 1128 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: long touchdown run, just looked really good. Had a bit 1129 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: of an injury scare where it looked like maybe he 1130 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: rolled up on his knee or something, but did come 1131 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,919 Speaker 1: back out and was healthy the rest of the way. 1132 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: One ninety nine for him. But we saw a little 1133 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: bit of Logan Diggs, who's their freshman. Even Jack Cone 1134 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: was running, which tells you a lot about. 1135 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 3: He hit a nice touchdown run, right, yeah, yeah, for 1136 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 3: like a twenty some mind yard touchdown run. 1137 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1138 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: When Jack CON's getting his on the ground, you know 1139 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: that the Carolina run defense has some improvement to do. 1140 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: What I'll say about Carolina, and I said this to you, like, yeah, 1141 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: marginally better along the lines, If they're marginally better up 1142 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: front both on offense and defense, if they have a 1143 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: second receiver option for Sam Howell, they're like a ten 1144 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,919 Speaker 1: and two team. They're not that far away. Sam Howe 1145 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: is so good. He was so far and away the 1146 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,439 Speaker 1: best player on the field yesterday. It's like not even 1147 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 1: you can say what you want. You can make a 1148 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: case for Kien Williams. Okay, No dame had no answer 1149 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: for Sam Howe. Now he's in there, he's got guys 1150 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 1: hanging off him. He's pointing receivers telling him where to go. 1151 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: Like he's very heady out there. He knows what he's 1152 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: supposed to do with the ball. He just doesn't have 1153 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 1: a supporting cast, so there's only so much you can do. 1154 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: In that instance, he had three forty one through the air, 1155 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: ninety one yards on the ground, two total touchdowns. As 1156 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: a whole, I thought a good effort from him. He's 1157 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: doing his best. He just does not have to support 1158 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 1: around him to manage. I think a better season for 1159 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 1: the tar Heels. But somebody's gonna draft him, and I 1160 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 1: think be pretty happy because he knows what he's supposed 1161 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: to do out there and he carries himself like a 1162 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 1: pro quarterback. 1163 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 3: Conversation around Mack Brown will be interesting moving forward. Next 1164 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 3: year will be year four, I believe, right of Mac 1165 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 3: in Chapel Hill, year four. You should have depth, you 1166 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 3: should have development, you should have Okay, this is what 1167 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 3: went wrong in the first couple of years. This is 1168 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 3: how we've adjusted. And disappointing the line of scrimmage this 1169 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 3: season for North Carolina, disappointing the lack of weapons. At times, 1170 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 3: you know a guy will pop up here and then 1171 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 3: disappear for three weeks for North Carolina. And obviously Sam 1172 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 3: Howell's going to be gone after this season. But I 1173 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 3: think North Carolina has done kind of everything right off 1174 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 3: the field in terms of recruiting, but now it's just 1175 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 3: converting that into in a wide open acc To not 1176 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 3: have North Carolina as part of the conversation with Sam 1177 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 3: Howell as a third year starter got to. 1178 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: Be pretty bumped. 1179 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything North Carolina fans already don't feel, 1180 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 3: but it's, you know, the opportunity was there with Clemson 1181 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 3: slipping like they have and just weren't able to attack it. 1182 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: No, and it's been a rough year for Mac. I mean, 1183 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: I think his brother passed away around labor Dah, Yeah, yeah, 1184 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, which which I'm sure was a bad way 1185 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: to get off the start of a new season. But 1186 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 1: of course he kind of looks miserable out there. Yeah, 1187 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: a little bit, so a little bit. We will definitely 1188 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 1: be revisiting the North Carolina thing moving forward. Elsewhere, we 1189 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: had Clemson thirty to twenty over Florida State. Did you 1190 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: see the way this one ended? I did? 1191 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't bet college football. There are plenty 1192 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 3: of reasons to beat college football. You know, if you're worshiping, 1193 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 3: get the worshiping at the altar of Dan. 1194 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I get it. I hear you. 1195 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 3: That all makes sense to me. But then games like this, 1196 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 3: oh man, it was there was a there're just wild, 1197 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 3: bad beats all over the sport every. 1198 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Week, and this was the worst one. 1199 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 3: This was It was like it was reminiscent of was 1200 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 3: it Northwestern Ohio State a few years ago? That ended 1201 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 3: in like a fall, like a meaningless fall on an 1202 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,919 Speaker 3: end bumble in the end zone? 1203 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no touch Yeah, a horrible gambling beat. Clemson's 1204 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: up twenty four to twenty. Florida State's got the ball 1205 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 1: twenty three seconds left, looking for a miracle. Clemson falls 1206 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 1: on a fumble. They return it for a touchdown, the 1207 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: walk off touchdown. They end up winning the game thirty 1208 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: to twenty. They cover the nine and a half point spread. 1209 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,439 Speaker 1: This was your lock of the week. So really bad beat, 1210 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: fat beat for me, ma'am. Bad beat. 1211 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 3: But really had had that had those points just until 1212 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 3: that last second. 1213 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 1: Good game for well Shipley one twenty eight two touchdowns 1214 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 1: for Clemson, thought too, Yeah, don't know if it was 1215 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: necessarily a better game for Dju, but. 1216 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 3: It was it was he connected on throws to Justin Ross. 1217 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 3: He spread the ball around. Obviously, he's still a rhythmic 1218 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 3: as a Clemson quarterback, right, but still, I thought, relatively speaking, 1219 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 3: made more plays than usual. And I don't know how 1220 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 3: encouraging it is, but it's better than getting worse. 1221 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And on the Florida State side, I would urge 1222 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Florida State people to correct me if I'm wrong here, Yeah, 1223 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 1: because I zoom in and kind of only he grabs 1224 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 1: snippets here and there. I like Jordan Travis. I think 1225 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,439 Speaker 1: he's done an admirable job working with a line that 1226 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: needs improvement or receiving corps that needs improvement. He also 1227 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,439 Speaker 1: holds onto the ball too, damn wall he does. There's 1228 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 1: a lot of like double and triple clutches going on 1229 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 1: out there, where you wonder, is their guy open and 1230 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 1: he's like afraid to throw it? Is he a beat 1231 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 1: too late with making his reads. I clearly they think 1232 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: he's the guy, the best guy to put them in 1233 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: a position to win. But on some level, we've blamed 1234 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: everybody else on the Florida State side, right, we blame 1235 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 1: James Blackman for a while, and then we blame the 1236 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 1: line and the receivers and the d like all these yeah, 1237 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: all these other aspects of the game. It we may 1238 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 1: want to look inward a little bit in question whether 1239 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 1: or not the quarterback is at all contributed to the problem. 1240 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 3: I think he's pretty good. Like he he the best 1241 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 3: of Jordan Travis is really impressive. He can make plays 1242 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 3: with his arm, make plays with his feet. By he 1243 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 3: led Florida State to thirteen offensive points. Right, they had 1244 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 3: a scoop and score in this game against a Clemson 1245 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 3: team that the defense is still very good, but you 1246 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 3: would think there has to be a higher ceiling. I 1247 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 3: don't know if that's party. I don't know who, with 1248 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 3: who it is. 1249 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but with whom? 1250 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's not an unreasonable take. But 1251 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 3: still a tough spot against this defense. 1252 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 1: Very tough spot. Yeah, And look, I thought Florida State 1253 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 1: played a good enough game to win. Yeah, frankly against 1254 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 1: a good defense. 1255 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 3: But they were okay on third down, they won the 1256 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 3: turnover battle, they were able to score off of a 1257 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 3: turnover like they did things that made this day up 1258 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 3: what twenty to seventeen in the fourth quarter. Yep, So 1259 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 3: he had them in position to win even without fireworks 1260 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 3: coming from that position. 1261 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 1: So elsewhere, still pretty good in the ACC. To close 1262 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 1: things out, Virginia Tech wins over Georgia Tech. A solid 1263 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: game I thought for the Hokies. Big game for Trade 1264 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Turner through the air one to eighty seven and a 1265 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: touchdown we had, and add Sean Tucker two to oh 1266 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 1: seven on the ground for Syracuse in a fifteen point 1267 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: win over BC Wake Forest forty five to seven over Duke. 1268 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: Wake has done it, Dan, They are now eight to 1269 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 1: zero going into eight. No, like you called it, the 1270 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 1: prophecy has come true. Sure for the Wake Forest Demon Deacons. 1271 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 1: A monster game for Sam Hartman. Four hundred and two 1272 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: yards through the air, sixty one yards, two touchdowns on 1273 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 1: the ground. Who does Wake have left? In the month 1274 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 1: of November, Wake goes to North Carolina. They're home against 1275 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 1: NC State. They're on the road at Clemson, on the 1276 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: road at Boston College. 1277 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 3: There's no definitive loss there now if Wake runs the 1278 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 3: table and Sam Hartman and you pointed this out to 1279 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 3: me this morning that the ACC has an unusually long 1280 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 3: list of quarterbacks who must do everything in order for 1281 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 3: the offense to succeed. They must run the ball, they 1282 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 3: must throw for a bajillion yards and it all falls 1283 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 3: to them right between Brendan Armstrong, who's now beat up 1284 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 3: on four fortunately, Sam Howell, Malie Cunningham, I don't remember 1285 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 3: who else, Garrett Schrader, there's eight guys. He must do 1286 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 3: it all in the ACC You're. 1287 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Right about Trey Turner. 1288 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 3: And to be clear, he's a receiver he said through 1289 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 3: the air. Yes, he was catching the balls through the 1290 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 3: erect and Braxtonbourgmeister had a pretty good game and he's 1291 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 3: been beat up. So good to see Virginia Tech get 1292 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 3: a road win Syracuse. I mean, just BC is in 1293 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 3: a tough spot. They can't really move the ball right now, 1294 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 3: and Syracuse is going to go to a bowl game. 1295 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 3: I presume, yes, I. 1296 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 1: Would hope, so yeah. Better Louisville. 1297 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 3: Louisville did a nice job against NC State on the ground, 1298 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 3: really held them down. Devin Leary had that big play 1299 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 3: on it was like the fake toss sweep and then 1300 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 3: a guy's open on the slot that opened things up 1301 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 3: for NSIS State and a nice win and nice bounce 1302 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 3: back win. Frenzy State, who I still believed to be 1303 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 3: a pretty good team Louisville just can't get things going 1304 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 3: and not get things going, and the team, the offense, 1305 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 3: everything is moving in the wrong direction. I don't know, 1306 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. And as I mentioned 1307 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,679 Speaker 3: Virginia BYU, I think BYU went up twenty one nothing 1308 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 3: right away. This was a game I was big on 1309 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,600 Speaker 3: BYU on And look, I know, I said, smother me 1310 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 3: and baby Blue North Carolina's beating Notre Dame. I know 1311 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 3: that my confidence is all over the place, sometimes on 1312 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 3: the solid Saturday program. But body clock and elevation tie 1313 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 3: is a hell of a combo. And for Byu jaren 1314 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 3: Holl but specifically Tyler Aljier to perform. And look the 1315 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 3: Virginia defense, especially with what they gave up on the 1316 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 3: ground all season long, like it was ripe for the picking, 1317 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 3: especially situationally. But it doesn't help that Brendan Armstrong, who 1318 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,680 Speaker 3: was really good, made some mistakes, but really good. He 1319 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 3: goes out with what is said a rib injury. 1320 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 1: I think something like that. 1321 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just crazy, unfortunate. I'm gonna double DeVore this, 1322 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 3: by the way, just because of the sheer number of drives, 1323 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 3: this game might test my pipes. But punt, touchdown, interception, touchdown, punt, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown, 1324 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 3: field goal, touchdown, punt, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, pat touchdown, punch 1325 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 3: the missfield goal, touchdown, touchdown, fumble, touchdown, interception, touchdown down. 1326 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:05,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, and. 1327 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,560 Speaker 1: You almost didn't get it all in there. That's so 1328 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,439 Speaker 1: many drives hi one hundred and fifteen total points, over 1329 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred total yards and UVA three turnovers. Yeah, unreal, incredible. 1330 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,760 Speaker 1: All right, and let's close things out with the Pac 1331 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 1: twelve and a few other odds and ends The Starry 1332 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: by Oregon Ducks Dan Anthony Brown. Your boy, he heard 1333 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 1: the footsteps from you. You had a good game. He heard 1334 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 1: what you've been saying. He had that nice throw. He 1335 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 1: had a guy draped on his one leg, just tossed 1336 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,040 Speaker 1: it over the middle. Colorado's real bad. But Anthony Brown 1337 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 1: looked pretty good this game. 1338 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 3: Anthony Brown looked good. I think he trusts his receivers 1339 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 3: a lot more. Maybe it's a Joe moorehead figuring out 1340 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 3: what Anthony Brown does specifically well more than what he doesn't. 1341 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 3: And so maybe there's just a little bit more of 1342 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 3: a rhythm between those two guys. Obviously, Joe Moore had 1343 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,559 Speaker 3: missed game the loss to Stanford where Anthony Brown looked 1344 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 3: sort of all over the place and lost, So I 1345 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 3: don't know what that had to do with it, but 1346 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 3: a loss is a loss as a loss, and Oregon 1347 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 3: largely played backups and third stringers in the second half 1348 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 3: after they went up comfortably and then Colorado scored a 1349 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 3: little bit more. But Oregon's defense still, I mean, they're 1350 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 3: beat up and still need to do a much better 1351 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,720 Speaker 3: job getting off the field. It was a wild day 1352 01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 3: in the conference between Utah separating themselves in I don't 1353 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 3: know w what Chip Kelly's future is at UCLA, but 1354 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 3: separating themselves against the Bruins, Wazoo absolutely laying the wood 1355 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 3: against Arizona State, taking advantage of all sorts of mistakes 1356 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,839 Speaker 3: and penalties and turnovers. Wazoo did a terrific job usc 1357 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,680 Speaker 3: hanging on to beat Arizona, and Drake London leaving that 1358 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 3: game injured. It was just it was a wild day. 1359 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 3: Cal Ran all the hell over Oregon State. Washington was 1360 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 3: able to win in weird fashion but impressive fashion, ultimately 1361 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 3: over Stanford, who they just got smashed by physically. It 1362 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 3: wasn't a blow out last year, but smashed by physically 1363 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 3: last year, So good for Washington State. Dylan Morris with 1364 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 3: the clutch throw there it was. It was a fun 1365 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 3: day in the in America's Conference out West. 1366 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,479 Speaker 1: Is ESPN trying to go full Rachel Phelps on Rod Gilmore, 1367 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 1: Oh with the bad cameras every week, you know, in 1368 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Major League when she takes away the hot tub and 1369 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,880 Speaker 1: then the bus, and then they're duct taping the propeller 1370 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 1: on the plane in the Indian Express Like, it just 1371 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,599 Speaker 1: seems like they're trying to take away all the luxuries 1372 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 1: that are required for a good game experience for the 1373 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: home viewer. It helps that maybe Rod Gilmour will just 1374 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: pack it in. 1375 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,720 Speaker 3: Now, Rod Gilmour will outlast us all. 1376 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 1: It will outlast us all. Oh man, what a what 1377 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 1: a terrible viewing experience That game was late at night. Yeah, 1378 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 1: emotional night too, by the way, on the Utah side, 1379 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 1: retiring the number twenty two in honor of ty Jordan 1380 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Lowe. You know, we've talked a little bit about 1381 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 1: that situation. But again Utah gets the job done, winning 1382 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: by twenty over UCLA. I just did want to call 1383 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 1: out I didn't. I didn't catch if you did or 1384 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 1: not here because I'm jockeying a bit with the controls 1385 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: making sure this broadcast stays on track. But yeah, this 1386 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 1: is the Arizona State we know and love, Dan. This 1387 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: is the Arizona State that has five turnovers at home 1388 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 1: after a bye against a team that just fired as 1389 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: coach like two weeks ago. This is the ASU. 1390 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,639 Speaker 3: These two teams are down like an eight or nine 1391 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 3: combined coaches. So this always had the potential to be 1392 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,559 Speaker 3: a disorganized mess, and Jazoo, to their credit, made place. 1393 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,720 Speaker 3: Jayden de Laura. I don't know how much of him 1394 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 3: you have watched, but kind of a pop gun all 1395 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 3: star ty. 1396 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, now he got a little bit in him. 1397 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 3: You might have to look a little bit more closely. 1398 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,600 Speaker 3: I like both theon McIntosh and Max Borgie, and I 1399 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 3: was fully prepared to think when I saw their line. 1400 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 3: When I watched this game, I was like, oh, by line, 1401 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 3: I mean stats. They ran hard, right, They got tough 1402 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 3: yards against what can be a tough asudense. The Washington 1403 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:05,000 Speaker 3: State offensive line opened up lanes. These guys were untouched 1404 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 3: for four or five yards at a time running into 1405 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,519 Speaker 3: the ASU defense. So really impressive from Wazoo jumping on 1406 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 3: Asu like they did in the desert, So that was 1407 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 3: really nice. Drake London obviously left the game. He has 1408 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 3: been the entirety of USC's offense by way. Both Kiden 1409 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 3: Slovis and Jackson dart In on the action against USC 1410 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 3: and Kyanta Ingram ran wild, So I guess good for 1411 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:28,719 Speaker 3: the Trojans. 1412 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,559 Speaker 1: Finally, the closest bad boy out we had Cincinnati thirty 1413 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,720 Speaker 1: one to twelve over two Lane kind of struggled to 1414 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 1: pull away from sort of. Yeah, it was like every 1415 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Cincinnati game ever, at least in twenty twenty one. It 1416 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: just takes them a little bit longer. I said it 1417 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 1: on we did a bit of a live stream to 1418 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 1: our Patreon for ballers. If Cincinnati had another eight minutes 1419 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 1: of gameplay in pretty much all their games, they would 1420 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 1: destroy all of their competition. It just seems like it 1421 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,760 Speaker 1: takes them a little bit longer to settle into the 1422 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,679 Speaker 1: flow of the game. Once they did, they were fine. 1423 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 3: But and if you had wheels, you'd be a bicycle. 1424 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,320 Speaker 1: That is also correct, thank you very much. What else 1425 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 1: we had Houston winning in dramatics. See how they won 1426 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:16,679 Speaker 1: this dramatic fashion over SMU. SMU scores, they kick it off, 1427 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 1: Houston returns one hundred yards the ensuing kickoff with eighteen 1428 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 1: seconds left to give them a forty four to thirty 1429 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 1: seven victory over SMU. An incredible game that sort of 1430 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: got lost in the shuffle, I think for most college 1431 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 1: football fans. But a great quarterback duel. Clayton too won 1432 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,959 Speaker 1: that one. Had four hundred and twelve yards four touchdowns. 1433 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Tanner Mordecai also a very good game three h five 1434 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,800 Speaker 1: three touchdowns through the air. But you're Houston Cougar's man. 1435 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,480 Speaker 1: They got the job done. Knocked off SMU. 1436 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 3: Should mention dueling one hundred yard touchdown kickoff returns. SMU 1437 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 3: had one earlier on in the game. Houston came into 1438 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,920 Speaker 3: the game as one of the worst kick return teams 1439 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 3: nationally and wins the game with what seventeen seconds left 1440 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 3: on that return? Eighteen seconds? Yeah, eighteen seconds. So great 1441 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 3: win for Houston and Dana Holgerson after what I would 1442 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,639 Speaker 3: qualify or call an uneven start to his career in Houston. 1443 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 3: But the Cougar is getting it done, mate, got stops 1444 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 3: occasionally when needed. Clayton tune, as you mentioned a really 1445 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,960 Speaker 3: nice performance by the way Fresno San Diego State. A 1446 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 3: really impressive day for Fresno going against one of the 1447 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 3: best defenses in the country. Spreading the ball around. Jake 1448 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 3: Hayner gets it done, Jordan mins it. It was a 1449 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 3: really nice performance from Fresno as they become the sort 1450 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,719 Speaker 3: of power in the Mountain West with that win. Coastal 1451 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 3: Carolina kind of hangs on. They were relatively impressive against 1452 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,680 Speaker 3: Troy at home. Troy some weird decisions there that was 1453 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 3: was that Wednesday or Thursday days all blend together, ECU. 1454 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 3: I mean, they should have beaten South Florida and they 1455 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,559 Speaker 3: did beat South Florida. Tulsa is going to be in 1456 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 3: kind of a weird spot because once every three years 1457 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,599 Speaker 3: they look really impressive and this year they just don't. 1458 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a Phil Montgomery thing. I 1459 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 3: don't know, but Tulsa goes down to Navy and they 1460 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 3: do so late Otherwise in terms of performances across the. 1461 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Scene, Scott Leffler got booted. I did see he got booted, 1462 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 1: got got two twice for unsportsman like conduct and got 1463 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:21,799 Speaker 1: booted from bowling Green. 1464 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 3: Utah State, and Blake Anderson are very quiet six and two, 1465 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 3: four and one in the Mountain West. They're gonna be 1466 01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:35,680 Speaker 3: in later season conversations. Otherwise, I think Steve Adazio has 1467 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 3: a leg injury or something. I think he was hurt 1468 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 3: coming into the game. I don't think he got hurt. 1469 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,760 Speaker 3: It wasn't a Charlie White situation where got rolled up on. 1470 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,400 Speaker 3: But they Poise State ends up coming back after falling 1471 01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 3: down thirteen to nothing, and Boise gets to five hundred 1472 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 3: under first year coach Andy Avlos. Georgia State over Georgia Southern. 1473 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,719 Speaker 3: It's been a weird year for both of those teams. 1474 01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,400 Speaker 3: San Jose State excuse me, gets to five and four, 1475 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,120 Speaker 3: so they're on the verge of another Bowl game. It 1476 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,360 Speaker 3: looks like with a win over Wyoming, who I think 1477 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,759 Speaker 3: started the year four and oh and has thus become 1478 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,719 Speaker 3: zero to four in the Mountain West. If my math 1479 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 3: serves app State with in a letdown spot after the 1480 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,960 Speaker 3: Coastal win, comfortable win over Monroe, who has been a 1481 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 3: bit scary to a bunch of teams this year. Otherwise, 1482 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 3: I kind of think that's all I have in terms 1483 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 3: of things that interest me. You know, Charles Harris first 1484 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:26,080 Speaker 3: year coach for Marshall. They win thirty eight nothing over FIU, 1485 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 3: which is always nice. I think that's all. Oh and 1486 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,320 Speaker 3: I did see I think UTAP ahead of next week potential, 1487 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, maybe game tay. They storm back to make 1488 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,759 Speaker 3: it a game late against FAU, but come up short 1489 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,400 Speaker 3: and so UTAP falls to six and two ahead of 1490 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,400 Speaker 3: I don't know even if I have my Roadrunners sound 1491 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,760 Speaker 3: ahead of their matchup against the undefeated UTSA, who were 1492 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,719 Speaker 3: on by this week. 1493 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Dn dood alerts holds it out strong. Who we got. 1494 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 3: Obviously, Tyler van Dim, Kenneth Wacker. What was the name 1495 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,880 Speaker 3: of the Kansas State defensive end. You're gonna nail it 1496 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,640 Speaker 3: one more time. I'm gonna make you Felix and you 1497 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 3: d k U Sama? 1498 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 1: How do you? How do you have a dude list 1499 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:16,120 Speaker 1: without him? Obviously he was wonderful. Will Rogers, Yes, the institution, baby, 1500 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 1: Tyler Bady. I don't know. 1501 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 3: I thought Anthony Brown was kind of a dude actually, 1502 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,120 Speaker 3: so I was happy to see that. Nikobe Dean, I mean, 1503 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,559 Speaker 3: choose your Georgia defenders. That's fine, somebody said the BYU 1504 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 3: scoreboard operator for all being able to keep up with 1505 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,479 Speaker 3: that first half, will Shipley for Clemson, ran Well, Abram 1506 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 3: Smith for Baylor, Brandon Armstrong of course till he got hurt. 1507 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 3: Sean Clifford just for in a losing effort due just 1508 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,679 Speaker 3: because of the plays he was able to make at times, 1509 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 3: I would say, And then was a Jaron Cage who 1510 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 3: returned it. I was like, big dudes, right, So he 1511 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 3: returns the rumbling, stumbling blobbody blah, Yeah, that was great. 1512 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,679 Speaker 3: Kyroen Williams for Notre Dame. Who am I not playing 1513 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 3: especially well? Maybe it was an offensive line thing, but 1514 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 3: Kyle Williams had that great run, goes for what nearly 1515 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 3: two hundred yards. 1516 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 1: One ninety nine a buck short. 1517 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1518 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,400 Speaker 3: And then, of course, as you mentioned, Kenny Pickett and 1519 01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 3: Jordan Addison in a losing effort. 1520 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,599 Speaker 1: In a losing effort, those are the dudes. 1521 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,200 Speaker 3: By the way, what about the Garber's family tie two 1522 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 3: sons starting pack twelve games at quarterback college football? 1523 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 1: Googo for Garber's, aren't they? 1524 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 3: Ethan at UCLA and Chase for cal? 1525 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Dan, Well, look fun show 1526 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 1: as always Week nine in the books, Week ten is 1527 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: coming at shit. 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