1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Hey ba fam, Please follow us on Apple Podcasts and 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: keep our audience growing. If your iPhone recently upgraded to 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: iOS fourteen point five, head to Apple Podcasts, search for 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Brown Ambition and click on the plus button in the 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: upper right hand corner. Do that and you'll be following 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: our show. You can also follow us on Spotify, Stitcher, 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: or the Amazon Music app. And Android users, we didn't 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: forget about you, you can find us on Google podcasts. 9 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, I try to say a little cuter cuss. 10 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: We're back. We're black, We're brown and in living color. 11 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Last edition. 12 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Shit the Marown edition color edition. 13 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: Hey else, Hey, I see well, I mean I'll be 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: seeing you, but like I see you in the world, 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: can see you. 16 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: It's nice to see your face. You look refreshed. You 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: look like your vacation is still sunk into the melanin popping, 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: Like everything is just glowing. How are you feeling your 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: first full week back? 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm hot, flashing, just so, y'all though, Like, because so, 21 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: here's the thing, we are actually like you guys are 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: going to be able to watch us on the on 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: the you of the tubes. Yeah, because we're like I 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: feel like you guys, want to see how we interact, 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: like you know, we frand friends for real, for real And. 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has nothing to do with Instagram's algorithm favoring video, 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: not at all. We want to do this for you. 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 2: But you will see that I am extra glowing because 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: these damn IVF medicines literally get hot flashed me. So 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going through menopausea, not just yet, 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: but you just gonna see, like there'll be moments when 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm completely dry and moments when I look like who 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: something is glowing? 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: I am just from what How do you feel about 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: listening to other women's IVF experiences? Are you just like 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm living it? I don't want to hear it? Or 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: does it? 38 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: Do you like it? No, I'd like to. I'd like 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: to hear just because sometimes you it's nice to normalize 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: because I'm not gonna lie. When I first started hot flashing, 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: I was scared to tell my doctor because I thought 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: she was going to be like, oh my god, you 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: know you're an early menopause. I'm like so I was 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: like guesse, you know, cause it was like it was extreme, 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: like I'd be talking and then all of a sudden, 46 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 2: beats of sweat and I'm like it took a couple 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: of days. I'm like, wait, I'm this is hot flash. 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm hot flashing. So I mentioned it 49 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: when I was like, I was like, I'm not flushing. 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: She was like what. I'm like, come on, and she's like, 51 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: oh yeah, the mad So I was like what And 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: she told me that one of the medicines that I'm on, 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: that's common that women have, like you know, that reaction. 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: I say all that to say, if I would have 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: heard someone like say, like, you know, I'm listening to 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: my fath podcast pro anhmbition and I heard one of 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: the hosts, Tiffany talk about how one of her medicines 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: had her hot flashing, it would kind of give me solace, like, 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I thought it was just me whoo 60 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: and so like yeah. So, I mean, I honestly like 61 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: when people share their you know, journey, it helps to 62 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: normalize it because it feels very abnormal, like you're you know, 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: you're alone in it. No. 64 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I yeah, I totally agree. I brought it up because 65 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about Master of None. It's back 66 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: on Netflix. Remember, so Master of None is that show 67 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: by Azizanzari, who's hilarious, but he kind of got into 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: some hot water what I forget now what the scandal was, 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: but he something about a girl he had hit on 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: or really pressed himself upon in a date or something 71 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: like that, and he was sort of like Mini canceled 72 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: for a while. So when he brought back Master of None, 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: I say, the road to redemption is paved with the 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: season of Master of None for him, because he completely 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: centralized two queer black women, like he centralized Lena Waite 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: and her partner in this story. And they want to 77 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: have a baby, and her partner I think her name is, oh, 78 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: what's her name? Dammit, I forget Renee Alicia. Alicia wants 79 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: to have a baby. They end up I'm not gonna okay, 80 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: so spoiler okay, I think I can say it without spoilings. 81 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Don't come for me all in the comments. But Alicia 82 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: ends up doing IVF and there is an entire I 83 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: don't know how long was that episode, fifty minutes dedicated 84 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: to chronicling, like one of the most realistic and I 85 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: don't even obviously I haven't done IVF, but it just 86 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: anyone who had gone through IVF. I mean, women were 87 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: just going nuts over this episode because it just was 88 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: so realistic, and I was gonna say, I don't know 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: if that would be helpful or enjoy that. 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was. 91 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: So powerful, and especially for me having not gone through it, 92 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, you talk about it, 93 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: and that's really generous of you, but I'm not trying 94 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: to be like, so what's it like? You know, what 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: did the doctor say? But it really the uncomfortableness of it, 96 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: especially for a queer woman, you know, trying to do 97 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: it on her own, and just the conversations and the 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: invasiveness of it, it was really beautiful. 99 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: So yes, when I go, like to the IVF, like 100 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: you know, to my doctor, I see, like, you know, 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: every type of partnership that you can think of, you know, Like, 102 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: so I've seen queer women there. I've seen people with 103 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: their boyfriends, people with their girlfriends, people with their spouses. 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: Even like recently a couple of friends of mine, you know, 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: have hit me up and they were like, Tiffany, I'm 106 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: having trouble. I think I'm gonna do IVF. I would 107 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: really love to talk to you and I share it 108 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: because it can feel like something is wrong with me, 109 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: And so it was nice for me to know people 110 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: in real life that I cared about who went through 111 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: it to say, Okay, I'm not the only one. Like 112 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: when I found out that the Michelle Obama, I don't 113 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 2: know if she did IVF or she did did something 114 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: called IUI, but basically she needed help with both her kids. 115 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, you know, those stories are important 116 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: because it really helps to normalize that everything is normal. 117 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: Challenges are normal. Getting pregnant just like that is normal, 118 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: you know, having a hard time, you know, getting pregnant 119 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: is normal. So they're a lot more people have trouble 120 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: getting pregnant than people really realize, you know, And so 121 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: I think that, Yeah, no, actually I'm actually looking forward. 122 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: I want to see it if I'm like, she took 123 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: those needles real easy, you know. 124 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: No, that's a whole segment. Oh my god. Yeah, well, 125 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: uh man, that's such a so if y'all haven't seen it, 126 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: master I've done on Netflix. I really I highly recommend that. 127 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: Oh I'm gonna watch just for that epim. 128 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: Well, another thing that happened today. My financial planner is 129 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: so good, ol'd Helen. Okay, he sent me, Hey, Helen 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: Enrika and I. We met with her when I was 131 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: going to launch my business, and that's when she was like, girl, 132 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna be fine. You tenn ext your network. Yeah yeah, yeah. 133 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: But in that conversation, she had each of us take 134 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: a risk tolerance quiz. Have you ever done that? 135 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 136 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: It's basically if you're going to start investing or just 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: to have an investor and an advisor kind of check 138 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: in and see is this girl going to freak out 139 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, when the next pandemic happens, or is she 140 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: going to keep her cool? And then they use that 141 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: knowledge to say, Okay, all of the logic says, you know, 142 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: put the money in the market, you have time to 143 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: bounce back. But emotionally, you know, what's Mandy's reaction going 144 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: to be. Is she gonna lose it and she gonna 145 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: like drive off a cliff or whatever. I was really 146 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: shocked that my risk tolerance per her quiz was not 147 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: that high. See sixty eight out of one hundred. 148 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, put a risk like I know me, I'm eighty, 149 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm an eighty year old me and me and Superman 150 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: or you're like we are like we're about to not 151 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: mar for that money a cash like we. 152 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: So, do you have gold bars under your under your bed? 153 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, literally, like Angelie, who say he is friends 154 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: with Helen, who's my financi advisor, was like, honestly, I 155 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: need you guys to be boring, like this is the ring. No, 156 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: but honestly, you seem like somebody who is. I can 157 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: maybe see you're the husband. Maybe I don't know him 158 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: well enough, but you seemed like me, but you seem 159 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: like who is Just like, no, let's go for it. 160 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, Yeah, that's kind of the reaction I get 161 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: when I tell people I'm an introvert. They're like, really, 162 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: you seem so outgoing. You do the show, you do video, 163 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: and your tiktoks are anyway. But the thing is, I 164 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: think this is a really good lesson. I guess naturally 165 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: my inclination is to be more conservative with my money, 166 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: but I have trained myself to like understand the logic 167 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: and to let facts rule my emotions. So I was like, yeah, cool, cool, cool. 168 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: I get that maybe I'm a little bit stressed, but 169 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: I still am like ninety percent in stocks. You know, 170 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm younger than you, so I mean not to rub 171 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: it in but I was gonna say, but it's taking 172 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: not even by very much. 173 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: I'm just laughing. 174 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I might have time for like one more 175 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: recession bounce back, but then you but yeah, So so 176 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: that was a good lesson, and the same thing with 177 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: being an introvert, Like I don't know, I just taught 178 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: myself how to be extroverted as needed. But then I 179 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: know I need to plug myself in after, you know, 180 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I put myself out. So for me, what helps me 181 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: with my being more risky and being so heavy in 182 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: stocks is having these moments to recharge and plug in 183 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: by talking to Helen for her to keep my head 184 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: on straight and also just to check everything, like I 185 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: try not to check my accounts that often so that 186 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, feeling those ups and downs so much. 187 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: So just to say, if y'all want a little window 188 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: into your what you should be working against, like if 189 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: you're a little bit too conservative with your money, so 190 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, Helen's note was kind of like, here's here's 191 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: what we're working with, but uh, let's try to uh 192 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: let reason overcome, you know, how we might emotionally react 193 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: to the stock market. 194 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: No, I love that this is just like a random aside, 195 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: what feels good. I was just thinking about what you're 196 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 2: saying about Helen was thinking about Angelie. It just had 197 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: me thinking about coaches and I thought, oh, you know, 198 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: since I've been back, I met with my personal coach, 199 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: doctor Green, and then Zion, my business coach. It was 200 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: like it felt like such a reunion, Like I'm bad 201 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: and they're like, my child, do you return from the 202 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: desert you know where you went to, like like. 203 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: They sent you there right? 204 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 205 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: I know. 206 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: So honestly, it was like such a great reunion. Doctor 207 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: Green was like such a proud mom. She's like, I'm 208 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: so proud of you. 209 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: Even though do you all meet together like the Avengers? 210 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: Do you just you know we together? 211 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: We should. But it was just like really nice and 212 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: you know it was honestly, so you tell me this, Mandy. 213 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: It was a little scary because Zion and I still 214 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: have work to do. But what prompted me to go 215 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: to find doctor Green was we had Richard. Now what 216 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: is the couple we had on i'man and in Christina? 217 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Christina and on our Riche journey. We talk about 218 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: them all the time, I know it. 219 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: So we had them on and the level of joy 220 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: that they were emanating. I was like, that can't be real. 221 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: It was a lot in an amazing, joyful way. And 222 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: I remember thinking, when's the last time you felt like that, Tiffany? 223 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: And it had been a long time, and it prompted 224 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: me to say something is wrong. You're not present and 225 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: you're not connected, not in a way that you used 226 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: to be. And so I thought I needed a therapist. 227 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: Remember we used the therapist finder Stephanie, and she was like, actually, 228 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: it's less about therapy. I think you need more coaching. 229 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: She connected me to doctor Green. And as I was 230 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: talking to doctor Green and that was just like she said, Tiffany, 231 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: you know who you sound like. I was like, no, who. 232 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: She's like, you sound like our rich journey, like how 233 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: you describe them to me. She was always like, good it, 234 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: that's exactly what she said. I was like, that's how 235 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: I feel. And then she said something scary. She was like, well, 236 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: you know our time together. 237 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: I was like, so what was she ready to just 238 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: say you're ready to fly? Did you act real sad, 239 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: real quick? Were You're like no, no, no, no, no, I'm 240 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: actually I feel a little pang. 241 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: What I'm yet I felt like you like Stewart from 242 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: an SNL or no, I know, I know, like what's 243 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: it like? You know, it's Comedy Central whatever, it's like 244 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: the Stewart character. It's like this girl man that pretends 245 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: to be like a baby. He's like, and I can't 246 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: be forever? 247 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: What are you going to do? Like a check in? 248 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: You know? 249 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: Well we have one more official because with six months 250 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: we have one more official chat. And then she said, 251 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: if you want to continue, what gold do you want 252 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: to work toward? And I'm like, I'm always here just 253 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: thinking about like let's. 254 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: Look at weren't you going to like i mean, build 255 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: a hospital or go to the moon or something last time. 256 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: We talked, you know, but you know, like gold like 257 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: an internal like you know, and so I honestly don't 258 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: know like kind of like so I've just been kind 259 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: of like self checking, like what are some pain points? 260 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: But I'm curious, you know, I know you said you've 261 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: done therapy before. Have you ever kind of like outgrown 262 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: or moved past and said I did it? Or what 263 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: I came here for I got? And it's like how 264 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 2: do I hell do. 265 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: I know? I'm I wish I could say yeah, but no. 266 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean I never thought of that. I didn't know 267 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: that was a thing you could do. But I guess 268 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: coaching is different. You have a specific goal in mind. Therapy, 269 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: I hope I never outgrow it. I mean, maybe the 270 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: therapist I'm seeing, but y you know, I saw. I'm 271 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: seeing a therapist who specializes with the postpartum journey and 272 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: with new mothers. And I found her through a recommendation 273 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: through a prenatal yoga studio. So she's perfect for the time, 274 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: especially the past two years. She's been perfect for this 275 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: period of my life. Now I can think I'm kind 276 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: of a badass mom. We spent a lot less time 277 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: talking about you know, Rio's poops and his feeding schedule 278 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: and you know, sleeping now than we do about my 279 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: career and all of that. I call therapy for me, 280 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: And this is therapy versus you know, your coach. But 281 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: for me, therapy is like the mental health form of 282 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: an emergency fund. It's not like I'm going to need 283 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: that money right now. So even though it feels like 284 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: do I really need to save that extra hundred bucks, 285 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: you know I have a pretty decent emergency fund. I 286 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: continue contributing in the form of that weekly session with her. 287 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: But when I tell you when I need her, I 288 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: am so happy that I have stashed away that time 289 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: with her. I don't have to go find a therapist, 290 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: get the referrals, you know. And I would say about 291 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: once every in my life. It's like once every couple 292 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: of months or something big that we have to talk about. 293 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: So it's definitely an ongoing relationship for sure. 294 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: So I don't know, I'm like really debating whether or 295 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: not because I don't want to make up something, you know, 296 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: with the coaching obviously, but I felt like it was 297 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: so help I honestly not that I didn't think that 298 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: it would work. I never thought to myself, well, what 299 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: happens when you feel present and you know how to 300 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: tap into joy and you know, because I just you 301 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: just kind of feel like you're just going and then 302 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: one day you're like, wait, I'm here, and so yeah, 303 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: I'm just curious for anybody who's listening, BA fan have 304 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: if you've ever had a coach and you've kind of 305 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: accomplished the thing that the coach was there to coach 306 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: you on. You know, I'm going to do some deep 307 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: diving for real to see if there's anything else i'd 308 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: like to work on, but I don't want to just 309 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: you know, just be like I just want to, Hey girl, 310 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: every Friday. 311 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure, Like, give it a month, you'll 312 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: have something like it. But listen, if y'all want some 313 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: free career coaching, I'm doing that right now. I don't 314 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: know why did you see that I post on Instagram? 315 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what came over me Friday night. But 316 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of writing kind of an ebook guide. 317 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm so passionate about helping people be relentless about quitting 318 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: quitting and moving on to their jobs. And the ebook 319 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm writing isn't ready yet, but I really want I 320 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: want to help. I want to. You know, I get 321 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: messages from our listeners personally because I can tell I've 322 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: talked about it quite a bit and had I set 323 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: up a call last week with one of our listeners 324 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: and we had a really great conversation about where she 325 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: was feeling stuck in her career, and listen, it's just 326 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: something that I want to do. I've posted a form. 327 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm still taking submissions if you want to sign up 328 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: for a free little career coaching session, and I'm doing it, 329 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, for free, but I'm also doing it for information. 330 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: I just kind of want to know what pain points, Like, 331 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: what is it that's stopping people from not pursuing the 332 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: highest level that they can attain in their career? And 333 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to call her out real quick, but she said. 334 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: I was like, so, you know, send me a link 335 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: to your LinkedIn. And she said, oh that I don't 336 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: have a LinkedIn. It's like what talk about low hanging 337 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: fruit LinkedIn? So she seemed a little kick in her butt. 338 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: But I'm ready to be that kick in the butt 339 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: for people if they if they need it. So we'll 340 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: post a link to that form. I think I have 341 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: to close it. There's already like one hundred people that have. 342 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mandy, when are you gonna find the time? 343 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not accepting all of them. Okay, I'm going 344 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: to go through and choose some, but I'm going to 345 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: close the form. I'm going to close the form. 346 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: But honestly, I'm so proud of you. I mean, you know, 347 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: I know how hard business could be, you know, but 348 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: you know taking the leave is not easy. And I 349 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: mean you have a family, you know, you've got bills, 350 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: even though you know you've made really great financial choices, 351 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: but still, you know, betting on black and brown. But 352 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm just really proud of you because it's not a 353 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: road that many people can manage, not because there's anything 354 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: wrong with them, but just because it's a lot. It's 355 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: a lot emotionally. Here's the thing. What's so crazy. Even 356 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: if the financial returns are amazing, that doesn't mean that 357 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: you're not having a hard time. Like literally last year, 358 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, we had our biggest year yet that's when 359 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: we crossed over the ten million mark. It was literally 360 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: one of the hardest years in business that I've ever 361 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: had because it was so overwhelming. I considered, quite honestly 362 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: shutting it all down. I was like, who needs a 363 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: preschool teacher? You know? Like I spoke to my attorney 364 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: and was like, honestly, if I shut down this business, 365 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: what would that look like? 366 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: Like? 367 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 2: That's why I needed the doctor Green and Zion because 368 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: I felt equally pressed, like almost like this heavyweight was 369 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 2: on me. But also I felt like a balloon where 370 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: you know it's ready to pop and you keep blowing 371 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: and you're like, is this the one? Is this is 372 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: this the air that's gonna I literally felt like, Okay, 373 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: is this the problem that's going to break me? Oh well, 374 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: maybe the next one. 375 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: We're like the watermelons on TikTok with you. Yes, yes, 376 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: I like that analogy. Those are stressful for you. 377 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: But it is stressful and so honestly, so I just 378 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: share all that to say that, Like I think people 379 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: think that like once in business, once you make money, 380 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: it's all good. And the truth is the money making aspect, 381 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: you know, once you get good at it, is one 382 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: of the easier aspects. There's so many things to manage. 383 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: There's balance, and there's family, and there's team, and there's 384 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: mission and vision and and there's you know, there's just 385 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: so many things. So the fact that you you know, 386 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: you've you've waded into these waters, girl, you know, and 387 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: you're doing well. And I'm just like to thrive from 388 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: the very beginning. And I told you before, like challenges 389 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: will come be like that's just natural. But to watch 390 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: you thrive from the very beginning, I feel like a 391 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: proud auntie, not mine, because you ain't that much younger, 392 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: our proud older cousin. 393 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Listen you, I can't tell you how many times you 394 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: and I start recording you're like, I just woke up 395 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: from a nap. I was like, going, you're tired, not me. Listen, 396 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: now I can take naps. You got my I can 397 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: see my little moon pod behind me. That's where the 398 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: quality of the naps I take, when I tell you, 399 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: I just think it's like it's having anesthesia. Almost. Yes, 400 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: the naps are midday naps are good. I don't know, yes, 401 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 1: but the struggle has been real. Let me live some 402 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: more of this entrepreneur life and maybe I'll find a 403 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: way to like verbalize all the struggles. But for me, 404 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: it's mostly just been like there's so many things and 405 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: it's just like which thing I'm like, do I have 406 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: adhd undiagnosed? Just which thing do I? So every day 407 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: it's like a put you you know, get your coffee, 408 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: sit down, feed yourself, and one thing at a time. 409 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: It's like sometimes you're so busy, just you know, head down, 410 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: just like doing the work. But I need to bacon. 411 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: The one smart thing I've done is try to have 412 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: designated days for things good. And I need to have 413 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: like a reflection day where I just kind of look 414 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: back and then you know, make my little list of 415 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: questions for the accountant for Helen, for whoever, and just reflect. 416 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: But I will let you know. 417 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: We don't do We don't do it because I can't 418 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: just be helpful for the people listening because sometimes I, 419 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: like I said, I love talking to my like different 420 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: people that are that are different stages of business, and 421 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: then also leaning in Like I just reached out to 422 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: a friend of mine. His name is Rohan. He he's 423 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: been a business longer than me and his business does 424 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: better and I was asking him a question. He gave 425 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 2: me one little tip that was like life changing. That 426 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: circle is important having mentors and sponsors and coaches, right, 427 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: having peers people who are like similar level, and then 428 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: having mentees. The mentees keep you sharp, like as I'm 429 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: solving your problem, it's also really helping me to think 430 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: differently and expand my capacity for challenges. And you know, 431 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: so it's always I love that loop, like you know, 432 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: this kind of people who know more than you, people 433 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: who are similar than to you, and people who are 434 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: newer than you are. I think that three tiered approach 435 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: to kind of like your business circle is will really 436 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: do you well, you know, No. 437 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: I think I need to be more intentional about that 438 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: circle too, it's I can't. I'm trying to think who's 439 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: the circle. The circle is there, but it's like when 440 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: do you reach out and in the right and I 441 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: kind of just take it, you know, situationally, when there's 442 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: a situation, I try to find the right person versus 443 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: having like schedule time for this person and that person. 444 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: I'll let you know, Well, listen, should we take a 445 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: quick breaking break and come back and do some boostyrk 446 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: some boosts and breaks. Let's take a quick breaking right back, y'all, 447 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: stick around, don't forget y'all. 448 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 2: We have our questions in a separate episode. You might 449 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: be like, where's the question? 450 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: Separate EPI ETI on Fridays. Yeah, our new bonus episode 451 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: on Fridays. So still send us your questions Bronibision Podcast 452 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com or hit us up at Brown 453 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: Ambition Podcast at GEMA. I just said that, or go 454 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: to Brownivision podcast dot com and ask us anything. There 455 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: you go, All right, we are back. You ready to 456 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: boost or break? Mims Tiffany, Yes. 457 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: It's time to boost up break or boost up? Break up? Boost? 458 00:21:54,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: Oh break, I'm gonna break. Okay, he knows the plan. 459 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: Let's go. 460 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: I am literally and figuratively breaking from social media. Okay, 461 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: I came back on Monday, I didn't really do like, 462 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: I didn't do any social media, and then Wednesday was 463 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: my official day back on social got to social lying 464 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: promptly started to feel anxiety and depression. I was like, Mandy, 465 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: like crazy. I was like, it took me a wile 466 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: of reals, I'm like, what is this feeling? You were 467 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: so happy on Monday, so happy on Tuesday. 468 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: Who are you following? 469 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 2: Now? You know what it was? What I realized is 470 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: that I'm not following anyone negative. I didn't realize how 471 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: much I compared myself and then always found myself lacking. 472 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: So we had a huge milestone. Wooh woo. We just 473 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: sold just over seventy five thousand copies of Gecko with Money, 474 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: which is huge. You know, like, twenty five thousand copies 475 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: in a lifetime is considered a success, fifty thousand copies 476 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: it is considered next level, and then seventy five well, literally, 477 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: only a handful of books ever sell one hundred thousand 478 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: copies every year, and the fact that we're going to 479 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: sell one hundred thousand by the end of the year 480 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: is like astronomical. Right, Yeah, normally I'd be like whoo whoop, 481 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: woop woop. Then I saw a friend of mine whose 482 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: book came out the same time. She had a plaque 483 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: that she had already sold one hundred thousand. So all 484 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: of a sudden, my seventy five looked like whoom. And 485 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: I was like, but I didn't even recognize that that's 486 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: what I was doing to myself. Internally goes, oh my god, 487 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: congratulations for her, but there was this little like, oh girl, 488 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: but you didn't do it. And I was like, oh, 489 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: oh my. 490 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: You know, is this your next project for Doctor Green? 491 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: No? Maybe so. But what I realized is that I 492 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 2: am my own Nigerian parent. Because whenever you like, as 493 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: a Nigerian. 494 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: Child, do they have two heads, Tiffany? Is that why 495 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: they have a best selling book? 496 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: It's a little or like my dad would be like, Daddy, 497 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: I got in ninety six, m what happened to the 498 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: other four points? So I realized that I was doing 499 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: that to myself, and I was feeling really bad about it, 500 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: even though I was happy for my friends, you know, 501 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: cause I follow really great positive people, and I thought, like, 502 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: some people can be on and honestly, that doesn't play 503 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: a role for them, you know. But I realized I 504 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: didn't even recognize until I was away that that's what 505 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: I had been doing. And so I literally came off 506 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: and said, Okay, there's an issue here. I want to 507 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: be able to see a thing and recognize it as good, 508 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: but not use it as a tool to make myself 509 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: feel bad, which is what I was doing. Even when 510 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: I saw it, I was like, Okay, Tivy, We're not 511 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: going to do that the next person. We're gonna just 512 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: be happy for them. And I'd be happy for them, 513 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: but still be like it was like a condemnation of like, 514 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: you know, where I should be. And then two, what 515 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: I recognized too is that it was so limiting. Since 516 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: I was away from social media, I've been rethinking and 517 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: restructuring my businesses and next year is going to be 518 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 2: explosive as a result. And I actually came up with 519 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: this huge disruptive idea for the financial industry that I've 520 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: never seen before that could really just change the way 521 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: people navigate in the finance industry, something that none of 522 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: the big boys have been able to solve for, and 523 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: I have been solving for it for the last ten years, 524 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: and I didn't even I just had not named it. 525 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: And now that I've named it, I'm going to systemize 526 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: it and scale it so anyway, that idea is huge, right, 527 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't have thought of it because social media 528 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: has me looking that my goal is one hundred because 529 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: she got a hundred, whereas maybe my book could be 530 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: doing three hundred. Do you see what I mean? Like, 531 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: social media will have me set my goal to what 532 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: someone else's goal is and then stop there and say 533 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: you did it versus girl, what you had before you 534 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: was three times as much. And so also too, I'm 535 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: pulling myself off social media, Like you won't know the 536 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 2: difference because I have a team that will run social media. 537 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: But I just really realized that like for me, at 538 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: least for now, social media is really not a place 539 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: for me that you know, it's a place that I 540 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 2: need to take a break from because one, I use 541 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: it as a tool to make myself feel bad and 542 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: so I fix that we can't go there. And then 543 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: two it's a limiting tool because it has me set 544 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: the bar according to someone else's you know, accomplishments versus 545 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: what I could accomplish fully on my own. So feel 546 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: free to take a if you want to take a 547 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: break with me, a collective break from social for a 548 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: little while, you know, feel free. I'll be over here, 549 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 2: you know, just get. 550 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: Follow me on TikTok, don't leave, don't leave. It's fine 551 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: here with me. 552 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: But do you say, yeah, go ahead? I don't know. 553 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't do it so much anymore, but I'm gonna 554 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: everyone's different. Let's say, yes, I had a whole different 555 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: set of parents, a whole different life experience, and you know, 556 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that must have been. Like my 557 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: parents were thrilled if I brought home a B. It 558 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: was myself that wanted those a's. You know, I don't 559 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: know how I created this like perfectionist out of that, 560 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: because they really were just like, oh baby, you try hard, 561 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: classic American American parents. But I will say with social media, 562 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the way that I see 563 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: it is I feel like I want people to succeed. 564 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: I haven't always been this way. Obviously, I get jealous 565 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: sometimes too, and I get fomo too, but I don't know. 566 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm just so I'm just so good with what's going 567 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: on now, and it's like I was saying, like, seeing 568 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: your success it makes me feel what's possible for me. 569 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: And you know, for me, it's like kind of a 570 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: flipped scenario where you're saying it kind of limits you. 571 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: I feel like it helps me see what's possible. And 572 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: on top of that, yeah, I mean, social media is 573 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: an important tool for a business. So some people, you know, 574 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: you can't necessarily turn it away or you have to 575 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: outsource it. Maybe you're not. I'm not able to outsource 576 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: mine quite yet. And for me, it's also like my 577 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: way to consume what other creators are creating so that 578 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: I can learn from them. But TikTok, Man, what I 579 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: love about TikTok, and this is why I spend so 580 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: much more time there than Instagram these days. It is 581 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: not the highlight reel TikTok for me at least, what 582 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: they serve me is the reality reel. It is like Mama, 583 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: like the moms of TikTok, it's we're letting our entire 584 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: freak flag fly. I mean like it's almost like TikTok rewards. 585 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: The hotter the mess, the more real, the personal like 586 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: dysfunction of your relationship or your I don't know, that's 587 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: that's almost like the community of weirdos on TikTok. I 588 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: just love it. 589 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe i'll maybe you know, I never really took 590 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: a look at it, but I love that, and I 591 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: could see that because you're right, I see the tiktoks 592 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: that I see kind of that mostly their ray on 593 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: over to IG are like me and my boyfriend are 594 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: going through this thing, or like, oh the baby spit 595 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: up on me again. So I mean, I don't. I'm 596 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: still taking just like a break for now, just to 597 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: and to your point. Maybe I'll bring it up to 598 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: doctor Green to be like, oh, how do I because 599 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: I told her that social media can be and she's like, honestly, Tiffany, 600 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: it very much can be, and it's okay to take 601 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: breaks away, and not to say I'm. 602 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Never one thousand percent. It's all all just to say 603 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: that you just need to be true to yourself. You 604 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: always have that, you know what's right for you, you know, 605 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: And so. 606 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I. 607 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: Really should probably give up TikTok at least. I mean, 608 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: but the time that when you said you came up 609 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: with this business idea, I worry about spending so much 610 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: time consuming other content is less time that I can 611 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: use to create my own there's a certain limit where 612 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: it becomes less educational for me and more like maybe 613 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: you should just be doing your own thing and not 614 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: sitting here like like you know the face that you 615 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: have when you turn your camera and all of a 616 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: sudden on your phone You're like, oh, is that how 617 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm sitting like with like fortunes and like food on 618 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: your shirt. 619 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: No, the worst is like when you look at your 620 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: phone at night, right, and then you do the thing 621 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: You're like, wow, that's my signals time to go to bed. 622 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. Okay, well, thank you for 623 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: sharing that my brain. My boost is this, So it's 624 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: a boot. It could have been a break, but it 625 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: was a boost because I was just actually brand Ambish 626 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: and we were mentioned in an article and on a 627 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: personal finance publication, very nice, and I just happened to 628 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: scan the rest of the article and it was all 629 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: these different things that you can do to improve your 630 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: finances this year, and one of the tips was negotiate 631 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: like a white man. When I did like the eye 632 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: scrolling version of my eyes screw like tires squealing, I said, 633 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: what And I actually know the person who wrote it. 634 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: So I reached out and I was like, I have 635 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: some emotions about this article. I'd love to talk to you. 636 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: I could have written a very long email, but I 637 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: was like, I want to talk, and we ended up 638 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: having actually a really good, meaningful conversation. So the issue 639 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: that I told this person about he's a man, a 640 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: white man, and this tip was well meaning. It was 641 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: a subhead bold you know, negotiate like a white man. 642 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: And the excerpt below it was about a woman who 643 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: I had talked about. What often is said to women 644 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: in business situations or you know, financial is like negotiate harder, 645 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: ask for more, where this used the firm handshake. I 646 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: told him the problem with this headline and for me, 647 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: is once again we are trying to put the blame 648 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: or put the onus and put the work on the 649 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: shoulders of the people who don't have the power in 650 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: a negotiation. Often, if you're a woman and you're interviewing 651 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: for a job, for sure, you don't have the information 652 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: on their end. You don't know the budget, you don't 653 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: know the dynamics behind the scenes, you don't know you 654 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: know what's been improved for this role, what's been benchmarked 655 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: you don't know any of that stuff, and the people 656 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: who do, they're the ones who have the power to 657 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: be sure that you're paid what you're worth. But why 658 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: is it that we kind of put that on women? 659 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: You know, you need to know your worth, you need 660 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: to do your research. Why are we working so hard 661 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: to break into a system that is sexist and racist? 662 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Why not focus on the system itself. So I've always 663 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: been very passionate about, like, dude, train your managers to 664 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: be aware of their unconscious bias when they're interviewing. Make 665 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: sure that you have a clear compensation, benchmarking, salary plan, 666 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: and system and process, because I believe processes and systems 667 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: are what protect against the human instinct to be an asshole, 668 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: like to be biased, to be stereotype. You know, I 669 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: wasn't even saying all this as fortfulity to him. I was, 670 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, it was an interesting conversation. It was one 671 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: of those things where it could have been a quick 672 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: little comment on an article I could have posted like 673 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: a passive, aggressive TikTok about it or whatever, but I 674 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: was like, let me talk to him. I think he 675 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: means well. But it's just these little those that messaging 676 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: that you get from society that something is wrong with us. Yes, 677 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: you know that if only we could just be like 678 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: the magical white man, we would be doing better. 679 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: You know, that is the name of this episode, the 680 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: magical white Man. 681 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: The mythical magical white Man. And this is why I 682 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: told this guy. I was like, I said, no, listen. 683 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: The other problem with this headline is also like it 684 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: makes it seem like white men are these miraculous negotiators. Yeah, 685 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: like they are doing something so fantastic, They're so smart, 686 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: they have no no. I know plenty and I have 687 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: interviewed plenty of awkward, quiet, passive, shy Menut like these 688 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: are versions of men too. You know, they're not all 689 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: walking into offices with the big, hairy you know, handshake 690 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: and the business suit and you know they've all watched 691 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: Wolf of Wall Street or whatever that movie was. You know, Like, no, 692 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: there's plenty of guys who would come in all different 693 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: shapes and sizes and demeanors and personalities. The fact is 694 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: white men they just have the benefit of the doubt, 695 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: and that literally translates to money in their pocket that 696 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: they did not do anything special or miraculous to deserve. 697 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: So what do you want me to learn how to 698 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: do like be a white man. 699 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: I can't do that. 700 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. So it's not good 701 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: advice and it's dangerous and it proliferates just a stereotype 702 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: and a way of speaking to women that I think 703 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: has really hurt us. And my boost is because we 704 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: had a really good conversation and he's going to change. 705 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: He's going to change the article and he ended up 706 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: being really open to having that. But he's you know, 707 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: he was just like, I can see how quickly dashed 708 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: off a subhead like that, you know, could be could 709 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: be hurtful and have an impact. 710 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: And no, I love that. I love that boosty and 711 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: I love that and honestly I love that also I 712 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: love the break, but I also love the boost. And 713 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: so I'm glad that you had that conversation people, because 714 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: sometimes people are not open to feedback and so the 715 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: fact that he was oping to feedback is oh so 716 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 2: good because that means he's going to be mindful moving forward. 717 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: So we love a feedback feeling. 718 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, thank you. They don't all react that way. 719 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: So I appreciate you. Shouts out to you. You know 720 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: who you are. You are well, did we do it? 721 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: Did we do another show? 722 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: We did it? And if you really love us, you 723 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: will tell three five friends to listen to Brown and 724 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: Fish that here you get your life. You get to 725 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: learn a little bit about business, career, finance and money. 726 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 2: You get a little tea about me and Manny's life 727 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: and how. 728 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: We're man flash sweaty pit moment, my. 729 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: Hot flash moment. That's why I got my little fan. 730 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: Here you get to learn all the things. Isn't this cute? 731 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: I got some Nigia. 732 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: I think that is cute. 733 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: I have a family. Like for those of you non vieway, like, 734 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: if you were watching on YouTube, handhand, you'd be able 735 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: to see that I pulled out a ration. This is 736 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: no wait, this is made at a palm. I don't 737 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: know anyway, It's a beautiful fan that I'm using to 738 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: fan myself. You would only know that if you were 739 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: watching us via YouTube. But you know you're missing that 740 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 2: if you're not. No, but honestly, like, we would love 741 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: if wherever you listen to Brown Ambition, you know, share 742 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 2: the link, like not just hey guys, listen, but like, honestly, 743 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 2: I'd love this episode that think you were talking about 744 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 2: that thing you were sharing sis brauh other. You know here, 745 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: here's a really great podcast that I think is going 746 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: to relate to you, So share it with them. I 747 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 2: think that they would love it in return. 748 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: So at least three people minimum, as you know, three 749 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: people Amazon, Guy, Door, Dash person like you know you 750 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: know three people? Yeah, everyone has a parent? 751 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 2: Yes? 752 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: All right, well until Friday. You can check out our 753 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: mini qan a episode this Friday. Check it out, rate 754 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: and review, etcetera, etcetera. You see all then bye